Commissioners - Regular Meeting

Hey, welcome to the Board of County Commissioners meeting Tuesday, July 14th, 2026. Consent agenda.

Approval of payroll, June 19th, 26th, and July 2nd, 2026. Approval of claims, June 26th, July 2nd, and July 9th, 2026. Approval of minutes, June 23rd, 2026. I move we approve.

Second.

We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries. All right. Announcements. Bid openings for cement stabilization project, County Road 1050 North, 50 West, 125 West, and Liberty Township. Scott, do we have bids for that?

We received no bids to open today on that advertisement. We'll postpone that.

Correct. Okay. Well, what does that mean exactly?

That means we issued bids, we published it, and none of the contractors responded within this industry. which I'm assuming the lime stabilization is a handful of contractors.

Yeah. Go ahead. The cement stabilization, there's really two companies that engage in it, and generally they are a subcontractor to a general. They're not really used to performing this work on their own as the general and lead. So it's probably a bonding issue or something like that, but they're not comfortable submitting bids in this fashion.

What's the engineer's estimate?

I guess I wouldn't want to say at this time, maybe. We could release it when we get the quotes, but it would be within the possibility of a change order to our Hackney Lane project.

All right. Let's discuss it after the meeting. Okay. Our options are.

Sounds good.

We'll just set another date to send this out again.

It's possible we could do requests for quotes. So it might be within that threshold. It's at the limit of it. So we could possibly request quotes and move forward in that fashion.

I think the department and I can figure out how to get it on the next agenda properly.

Sounds good. So between now and then, what does it do to that project itself?

So it'll push it back a little bit until we can get prices from contractors to do the work, and we'll explore other avenues to get that work underway.

Are you still looking? to be able to accomplish that with the window of this year?

Yes, it would be this year. It would probably be going into the fall. But it would be this year.

I only ask because I'll have residents ask. Right.

Absolutely.

Thank you.

Okay, next item. We had a proclamation for the college baseball team, but that's actually going to be moved to the August 4th meeting. So we'll be doing that, honoring that team on them. So moving on next, Gilman. Good morning, Paul.

Well, we just have a few pay applications here. So for the highway department, we've got Gary of construction payout number 18 in the amount of $208,832.80. And then circular electric payout number 16 in the amount of 13,872.06. I move to approve. Second.

We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries.

Thank you, Hale. For the jail area construction, payout number 14 in the amount of $68,117.85. Kleckner Interior Systems, payout number 13 in the amount of $32,033.90. Stance Painting, payout number 11 in the amount of $59,347.91. Effie Moran, payout number 14 in the amount of $23,066.76. Quality Control Systems, payout number 13 in the amount of $245,121.16. HMT Electrical, payout number 14 in the amount of $32,048.72. I move that we approve. Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries.

Thank you. Appreciate it. Facilities? Mr. Kubacki?

Still is on vacation.

Still is on vacation.

But on this particular issue, not only have I talked to the facilities director, Mr. Kubacki, but also the representative of the engineering company who, from American Structure Point, this was originally awarded on the bid. We didn't have the contract on the agenda at the time, but we were unaware that the bid was awarded on our standard county contract. We ended up having some confusion as to whether the contract needed to be on the agenda. It did. But we ran into every single other individual had their vacation this week. So that is why I feel that the phone calls, it is reviewed. It has been proper. I would recommend that we approve at this time.

I move that we approve.

Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Motion carries. Museum, Mr. Kevin. Good morning. Good morning. You have a request to use a courthouse off-lawn for the historical trace demonstration on Saturday, August 22nd, 2026, between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m., with setup time starting at 8 a.m. Event is free and open to the public.

I move that we approve.

Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Motion carries. Second request, the use of the courthouse south lawn for the War of 1812 event on Saturday, November 14, 2026 between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. with the setup start at 9 a.m. Event is free and open to the public.

No, no fighting. But there is a connection to the War of 1812. Even though Porter County wasn't established, our namesake is a big part of that. And you'll have to come to the event to find out more. Commodore David Porter.

The same Porter that Porter County is named after? Correct.

Who also never set foot here. There will be more details. Yes. We're coming soon, though. If you're interested, please stop by the Porter County.

As long as you're not asking the commissioners to get involved in a mock.

None whatsoever.

I move that we approve.

Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Thank you, Kevin. We're looking forward to this. This will be interesting.

Me too. We have the animal shelter. Jennifer, Scott, are you aware of the...

The trust.

Yes, this is the continuation we have previously consented to things along the estate process. This is the final accounting that has been provided to all the errors. We are a percentage or the county, or specifically the animal shelter is a percentage. I believe. 20 or 25% of the overall trust administration, a full accounting has been filed with the court and I have reviewed. I believe it's in the proper format and I would recommend that as the Porter county, or the commissioners approved the 1 of the commissioners to sign the beneficiary consent or the animal show shelter director herself.

So, do we need to move who needs to sign it?

Yes.

Well, I move that we approve and that the commissioner sign it.

I'll sign it. Okay. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Motion carries. Health Department. Good morning.

I'm assuming the Health Department is not on vacation.

There you go.

Yeah, but what if somebody needs somebody down there right now?

Good morning. I've got my Board of Health hat on, and I'm pleased to come before you with two requests. Before I do that, I think we should all introduce ourselves since we've got many health department people with us. I'm Dave Hollenbeck, and I'm the lawyer for the health department. Jeff?

Jeff Hollenbeck, and I'm the lawyer for the health department.

All of these individuals had some role in crafting the document that's before your consideration today, actually both of them. One of them involves fulfillment of a commitment that the health department made to the commissioners a number of years ago, and that's to evaluate our pricing structure with some regularity. just to make sure that we are still as much as feasibly possible consistent with the theory that we should minimize the tax impact of the health department in Porter County. And we have before you an ordinance that we proposed that would facilitate accomplishing that task of raising the amount of the fees that we charge, nothing significant. so that we can facilitate the intent of the commissioners originally, which was to minimize that. So that is before you today. The second one that's before you is we have become unusual in that we are one of the few counties who do not have a temporary tattoo park ordinance, which is becoming problematic because all the temporary Purdue parlors are coming to Porter County and we don't have any regulatory authority over them. And you can get some consequences from tattooing. So we want to make sure we have some oversight to that. So specifically, Dan Boyd's been involved in drafting the second ordinance that you have before you, which is to establish the Porter County Health Department's entitlement right and responsibility to identify temporary tattoo partnering that's going on in Porter County, inspect it, and permit it to assure the safety of the citizens of Porter County who choose to get tattoos. We're here to answer any question you may have and in hopes that you will approve both of these.

Got to be careful where you get your tattoos, Barb.

So I have been, okay, so we have an ordinance here and we have, they're both on first reading, so we'll start with the health structure fee first. and that is to revise the fees for the Board of Health. So we're gonna close this meeting and open up a hearing. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to speak in favor of this ordinance? Second, is there anyone that would like to speak in favor? And third, is there anyone that would like to speak in favor? Okay, is there anyone that would like to speak against this ordinance? Second, is there anyone that would like to speak against it? And third, is there anyone that would like to speak against it? Okay. Hearing none, closing that, going back to the commissioner's meeting, do we have a motion?

I move that we approve this ordinance on first reading.

And that's the ordinance for the board health fee structure. Visiting the Porter County Board of Health's fee structure.

Right.

Yes. Second.

We have motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries. Second, we have an ordinance revising Porter County Board of Health Tattoo Parlor Body Piercing Facility Regulations. First reading. We'll close the commissioner's meeting, open up a hearing. Is there anyone that would like to speak in favor of this ordinance? Second, is there anyone that would like to speak in favor? And third, is there anyone that would like to speak in favor? Is there anyone that would like to speak against this ordinance? Second, is there anyone that would like to speak against this ordinance? And third, is there anyone that would like to speak against this ordinance? Okay, hearing none, close that. Go back to the Board of Commissioners meeting. Do we have a motion?

I move that we approve this ordinance on first reading.

Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Thank you very much, Commissioners, and to... Reiterate what Commissioner Figg said. You can now get, you're close to being able to get your tattoos safely and without any concern about it. I've been waiting.

But just wait until this meeting's over.

Yeah. E911, Ms. Gunn.

Hello.

Good morning. Good morning. You have a request to approve a technical integration standard procedure.

I do. So we're seeing more and more over-the-top applications come in that need integration with either our CAD system or our telephony system. And with those, I'm sure Commissioner Regnitz, you're aware of the technicality behind that and the concern sometimes. IT Director Spires, we came up with an SOP that would mandate that anyone who wants or needs integration into our CAD system or our telephony system get that approval prior to making that purchase.

Debbie, could you give us an example of that happening or that?

Yes, we're actually going through the process right now. We're working Valparaiso Police Department, they purchased Flock technology that requires integration with both our CAD system to feed their real-time crime center and as well as their telephony, our telephony system that would also feed their real-time crime center with calls in real time that they would determine meet the threshold to deploy a drone So to give you, I'll kind of walk you through how that would look if a caller calls in from Papa John's on Lincoln Way here, and there is a disturbance in progress. That call would come in to our center at the same time. The Valparaiso Police Department will have access to that call, and then whoever was manning that crime center at the time, if they determined that it meets the criteria to deploy a drone, they would deploy a drone, and that drone would fly and theoretically be on site prior to any other first responder. So that's actually something we're going through right now, but this is coming. This is kind of a revolutionary technology that's widespread nationwide. But because of this, you know, there are network considerations, there are system considerations although this technology is, I do think it will benefit public safety and it is very advantageous, we still have back end work that needs to be assessed and evaluated before we can just make these integrations.

Whose idea was it to create the SOP?

I think it was a shared idea between the two of us. When we encountered this, we realized that it was something that would definitely benefit.

I think it's a great idea and I think the SOP is very well done.

I do too. It's probably probably shut down five or six years ago. And, you know, in the flock drone project, I think it's a great project. It's just we got we got kind of caught like what? So this gives everybody, you know, the time to prepare because when that's turned on, we want to make sure, as I said, you many times. We want to make sure that the county is not the problem. It didn't work.

If I may, the critical part here is, and I've talked to all the commissioners about this, is Technology, I use the analogy of a car. This is like adding components to your car and customizing it. There's costs associated to all of it. And so someone goes and buys a drone system. Those are not the only costs involved. There's the cost to integrate it, to maintain it, and to ensure it's redundant. And in this scenario, those questions weren't asked and planned for. And so now we're playing catch up to try to figure out what the impacts are to the system and such.

Well, the other thing is it's not like you're just sitting around twiddling your thumbs waiting for new work. You've got a couple of integrations coming up, too, and to be able to prioritize and to make sure that, you know, that your current workload can function also while we're talking about doing that.

Thank you. And we think that as quickly as technology is changing things, this is something we're probably going to get hit with, you know, fairly regular, you know. Yep.

Well, Jeff, at some point in time, understanding that this is going to be an ongoing thing, is there any, and I know that you're buried right now with trying to get other things in line, but can you prepare a recommendation at some point as to what we're going to need to do from an equipment closet, from network perspective to... Yeah, Debbie and I met last week about that, just not with the 911 center, but all the facilities here and all the

challenges that I'm going through. We'll talk about scalability and redundancy so that we can be prepared for those type of things, so that Porter County can be prepared for those things as they come in and have as much flexibility as possible. But again, it's critical You can't run your business without technology. And so it's important that IT be at the table for all those discussions because no one knows what the issues we're facing with. And if we do something that adds more demand on a system, that system may not be able to handle that demand. And so we've got to be prepared for that.

And quite often, probably more times than not, it also means... growing additional resources that we did not budget for.

Well, and it's either that or you have 20 different service providers that have access to that equipment and the security issues that that could be.

And it's data security issues as well. Did you make a motion, Barbara?

I will. I move that we approve the technology integrations standard operating procedure.

Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you. Sheriff's Department. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good looking group. The first, we have an ordinance amending chapter 3.34 of the Porter County Municipal Code regarding inmate processing fees. And this will be for our first reading. And this is to change the fee structure of the current fee structure.

Correct. The last one was changed, I think, in 2015. It was $75, and we're requesting for you to go up to $150. It's basically when an inmate's actually convicted, this fee will be added to it, which it already does, and the money for that goes towards anything that would benefit the inmate, such as bedding, toiletries, anything, vehicles if we have to transport them, anything like that. It would go towards that.

And I think it's important for everybody to understand they're only paying that if they're convicted.

Correct.

So we should triple it.

Agreed. Prime down. Okay. I'm going to close the commissioner's meeting and open up a hearing. Is there anyone that would like to speak in favor of this ordinance? Second, is there anyone that would like to speak in favor of this ordinance? And third, is there anyone that would like to speak in favor? Is there anyone that would like to speak against this ordinance? Second, is there anyone that would like to speak against this ordinance? And third, is there anyone that would like to speak against this ordinance? Okay, hearing none, we're going to close that hearing, go back to the commissioner's meeting. Do we have a motion?

I move that we approve this ordinance on first reading.

Second with discussion. And again, Chief, what is it currently? What do you want to take it to?

It's from 75 to 150. So ordinance is 150.

Is the board opposed of changing that to 200? I'm not. We're just on the tail end of spending, what, $18 million?

$18 million.

We're spending more than $18 million.

Yeah, it's probably going to be in the 20s.

No, we're spending about 20s.

I don't think that we're being unreasonable at all.

That's if you're convicted, correctly?

Right.

So if you're convicted and if you're indigent, I don't think you're charged for either. They can prove that.

So I'd like to have that amended if the board's not opposed to it.

I just want to, how did you come up with the $150? Who's actually paying the $150 or $200, whatever? Is it the state that's paying it?

No, the individual defendants are paying it upon conviction. So when they enter a plea agreement, They pay court costs, they pay fine, they pay the countermeasure fee and then they pay the inmate inmate booking fee and they pay the death benefit fee. All of those other fees are mandated by the state. The inmate processing fee is allowed to be adopted by local ordinance. We've had a history of increasing this. It started, I think, at 25. It's gone to 50. It's gone to 75. So basically, over time, it's been utilized in this manner. But the other side of raising it is, as individuals are unable to pay, it just gets... put to a judgment leave is what we call. In other words, it's not paid. So there's a point of diminishing returns as you raise the amount up, as everyone else has raised the court costs and everything. So right now, an OWI plea agreement, you're probably around $1,200 of fines and costs at the end. So that's part of the overall picture of what this is playing into.

I just, you know, it's really not difficult to stay out of trouble. You know, so, you know, somebody that gets into the degree of trouble to where they're actually being arrested. And the other thing is that that fee is not, that fee, if you're convicted, is, it doesn't matter if you were there two days or one day or 20 days, you still are only going to pay $200. I think it's very reasonable.

Oh, I thought that was per day.

No. So I think it's very reasonable given what it costs to house a prisoner.

Why don't we make it $250?

I'm with you, Barb. Go $250. I'm fine with it. I understand Scott's information he was sharing with us. The higher it goes, the more difficult it is to collect. But I think that's a... woefully bad reason not to raise it, given what it's costing the taxpayers, the house people who can't seem to stay out of trouble.

Okay. Can I recall my motion then?

Yes.

And move that we approve this ordinance on first reading with an inmate processing fee of $250. A second.

And take that extra, take that for 75. and give it as bonuses out for the number of, for your officers, as far as I'm concerned.

Okay, we have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Motion carries. And to the criminals out there, that was Barbara. Second request is to approve a commercial lease agreement between South Point Partners LLC and Porter County Board of Commissioners in the amount of $2,000 per month for an annual cost of $24,000 for a two-year term for PC MEG unit premises.

And what is that? This is our Porter County multi-enforcement group, our drug unit. We've been blessed to have an off-site office. I know from at least 2015 we've been paying that fee. They haven't raised it on us.

Wow.

So it's just basically renewing the contract to stay there another two years.

And Haida pays for it.

And it's paid through Haida, yeah, which is the.

And that's $2,000 a month. Correct. Getting that space for it. Yes. Which is a deal.

Yep.

A motion to approve second. We have motion in a second. All in favor signify by saying aye. Motion carries. Thank you. IT director Jeffrey Spires. You are up. Good morning. Do you have a request to renew Porter County's underground fiber locate services with NITCO for a 36-month term with an annual fee of $3,500, totaling $10,500 over three years?

So this, NICO provides the fiber to the Porter County. You have 811 that does the location services for utilities on your private property or the county property. We have to provide that when there's digging and construction going on. So this is for the services for all the county facilities where fiber is installed, which is about half the facilities, a third of the facilities in Porter County.

I move that we approve.

Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Motion carries. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

Thanks, Jeff.

Assessor, Sue Neff. Good morning. Good morning.

How's everyone?

Good. Hooper-dooper.

I'm bringing my director of real estate with me up here to talk about our... our pictometry contract. I did do some investigative work and talked to two other companies that do this kind of work, and that's NIRMAP and VEXL. NIRMAP was the only one who came in with a bid. And I've done a little, I think you all have a copy of this. So if you're looking at that, there are several things to look at. Number one, comparing Eagle to Nearmap. With EagleView we do own the data. We would own, I put yes, current year and forward, but really we don't own that data, we have access to that data for NIRMAP. Also the imagery, we currently use two inch resolution and NIRMAP only offers three. And what does that mean Sue? Well, it's the resolution of the images you're seeing. So a two inch resolution, I'm not sure I can explain it, but I can tell you for sure because I've never done a lot of work with three inch, but between two inch and one inch, It would be the difference of zooming in to a street sign and it being blurry as opposed to it being completely legible. I'd love to get one inch, but it's beyond our financial. Financially, we couldn't afford that. But what I know, the difference between one inch and two inch, I can imagine it would be the same between two inch and three inch that imagery in a three inch would just not be, the resolution wouldn't be there, that we need to be able to see certain things. And then I also shared some other data with you showing you that Eagle View does the flyover for Porter County and they cover the entire county, all four corners. Where Nearmap, I showed you that they do not cover the entire county. They leave the South County portion is only done every few years. The main part, they definitely do flyovers in the populated areas, but the unpopulated areas, they don't do as often at all. So, for instance, when we had the tornadoes, we may not have current data to see what it was and what it is now. And the other thing with EagleView, they do, they're real careful to make sure they do that flyover in March or the beginning of April before the trees bud up and leaves come on so that we're getting leaf off imagery. And EagleView, excuse me, Nearmap will not guarantee that we'll get leaf off imagery. They do it three times a year. And the ones in the summer, to me, are kind of useless because the leaves are so dense. You can't see through to see many things. They do integrate with EXOP, which is our CAMA system. And then the last thing is the training. If we continue with Eagle View, we don't have to train the 80 countless people. But I think the important thing here is that the two-inch imagery is a huge difference. And then there's the fact that so many different people use this pictometry on a daily basis. There is information that's saved in the system. Peggy, you want to talk on that?

Sure. We have the ability to save our workspaces in pictometry. say for instance uh we had beach erosion issues several years ago in quite a few of the taxing districts and i was able to go in and identify that label it we actually had a special meeting at ogden dunes for that and reported and It helped because I could identify it. I printed everything. We put it up for everyone to see because sometimes you have to have a visual for that. And I think like the sheriff's department, 911, probably the building department, may also use those workspaces because you can put text boxes in there. You can color code things for you to present to someone. It also helps me when I represent an appeal and I'm providing taxpayer information. I have that ability. So if we do not retain pictometry as the system to use, I will lose those workspaces that I've specially saved in there. So would the other departments.

One other thing that's really important that I failed to mention is the difference between what we call obliques and ortho views. So near map, everyone does the ortho view which is straight down. So you see, basically you see rooftops, but with ego view, we get a side view, they call it an oblique view, where we can turn it sideways and I can see all four sides of a house. So I can turn that picture and I can actually see the side. In doing that, so there are times when taxpayers tell us they don't want us on their property when we come by for a reassessment and we do not, we have the right to be there, but we do not argue, we walk away. That's noted on the property record card. But then when we do our office review, I'm getting on my pictometry, and I'm looking at all four sides of that house. I can also measure patios. I can measure sheds. I can measure decks. So if they've redone their deck and they didn't get a permit, I'm going to know that, and I'm going to be able to measure it, which is also really important. And Neuromap does not offer that. Well, they offer it for... No, they don't offer that at all. Bexel offered a little bit.

So, let me understand. So, really, the comparison between EgoView and Nearmap is not an apples to apples comparison.

It is not. Nearmap does not offer. And I think Mr. Jabo's back there. We've had conversations. He used Nearmap when he worked for the city. And I think he'll testify that the difference between Picto and NIRMAP is really night and day. Eagleview Pictometry is just so much better.

Yeah, I looked into this, you know, after our last meeting. I went down to the assessor's office. I looked at these. you know, their situation with Eagle View and then the current, well, the only other company to quote, you know, that gave your price. But it's not an apples to apples. And considering how much our county does use it, you know, there's a better value in this Eagle View product, you know, so.

I move that we approve the Eagle View proposal for $120,664.97. Second.

We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries. Thank you.

Thank you very much. And I will just note out loud that this is a six-year contract.

Yes.

Although at six years, if for some reason we were unable to have the funding to do it, we can get out of it. But we do have the pricing for six years. Thank you.

Thank you. Highway Department, Mr. Polaris.

Good morning, Commissioners. Good morning.

So first up, you have a request to extend an employee's FMLA by three months.

Yeah, we have a longtime employee that's having some health issues, so we'd like to extend that FMLA for another three months. Is that your recommendation? Yes.

Motion to approve.

Second.

We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Motion carries. Second request for the placement of an honorary street sign of public right-of-way in honor of Palmer Grumbine. Does that sound right, Mr. General? To be located in Woodruff Drive in the Autumn Oak Subdivision Center Township. Second.

I move that we approve.

Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Just so everybody understands that we're not changing the name of the road or the street. We're just adding that as memorial.

Correct. It'll be a different colored sign. Yeah. It'll be blue and white compared to our green and white.

Or maybe brown and white.

Yeah. We'd have to figure out the exact color we're going to go with. But yeah, it'll be added to the same existing post.

And then what is the length of time? What did we decide how long they would stay up for?

The ordinance, I believe, says five years. Okay.

And just for the record, Superintendent Polarik and I worked together. They did follow the new resolution you passed at your last meeting. They did get the prerequisite in excess of 50 signatures. So this is the first run for this new resolution. We see some tweaking. Maybe we'll create an application form specific just to this. We didn't do it this time, but they met all the requirements.

I only five years.

Signs age over time and things change. I mean, they can come in and ask that it be continued.

Okay. And three is void.

Article three. Yeah, there's nothing 201. Correct. So we'll get with Mr. McClure and figure out what the next step would be here.

That's the cement stabilization project? Correct, yeah.

We did not receive any business. Right.

Okay. Perfect. Didn't we have a motion? We did do that motion.

Yep, we're good. We can move on to Mike.

Yep. Development stormwater management, Mr. Cabo?

Yes, a conversation I had with Commissioner Morales. He was talking about the devastation and all the property that was destroyed in South Coney during the June 11th tornado. And while we were speaking, you know, we're thinking of some way, the commissioner was, can we give assistance to the people that lost their property as far as planning and zoning goes and permitting and all. um, I told him that if the commissioners would like to forgive those, they could do so. And then, but they still got to follow all the other rules. They got to be zoned, right. They got to meet the setbacks and requirements and all. So, uh, probably more so for Scott. Scott was asked to prepare the ordinance that's before you that would allow that. Thing is, this is an ordinance, so it's two readings, correct? So it wouldn't be for another three weeks unless you wanted to suspend the rules, is that correct?

But we're dealing with fees.

Yes, that's true.

But we are hamstrung with that issue. But I think we need to move on today and process to the next meeting.

Very well. I just, for clarity, I wanted to bring that up.

So we'll move on with the ordinance reading and then do the final. Okay.

And the only question I had for Mike was this is going to impact his department because he uses these fees for their different projects.

I understand, but I think we're not cost. We're talking. Yeah. And if I run short, I'll come ask you for more money. How's that?

Yeah.

So this is an ordinance from Board of Commissioners suspending the billing permit and various fees and extending the non-performing structure bill period for structures damaged by the tornado and severe storm events on November 11, 2026. So We'll close the commissioner's meeting and move to a hearing. Is there anyone that would like to speak in favor of this ordinance? Second, is there anyone that would like to speak in favor of this ordinance? And third, is there anyone that would like to speak in favor of this ordinance? Is there anyone that would like to speak against this ordinance? Second, is there anyone that would like to speak against this ordinance? And third, is there anyone that would like to speak against this ordinance? Hearing done. Moving over to the Commissioner's meeting. Do we have a motion?

I move that we approve this ordinance on first reading.

Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Motion carries. And then we'll take this to our August 4th meeting for final approval. Correct. Okay, thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner.

Thank you.

Autumn Trail Subdivision Road Barriers. Debra Fletcher. Is that the, she couldn't make it this morning. Okay, she called in. So they've done this before, and it's a request to restrict access August 15, 2026 to 2515 White Pine Circle for the Autumn Trail Subdivision Annual Picnic with homeowner's consent.

And I will move to approve this request dependent on the fact that they actually have homeowner's consent.

Second. Okay. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion carried. Okay, is there any other matters which would like to come before the commissioners? Would anybody like to speak? Anyone? No? Larry? Good. No? Okay, the next meeting is August 4th, 10 a.m.