Commissioners - Regular Meeting

[Music] stand for the place [Music] please I plge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all morning everyone welcome to the uh pter County Board of Commissioners Tuesday February 28th 2025 meeting we'll start with the consent agenda approval of payroll January 31st and February 14th 2025 approval of claims January 30th February 6th and February 13th 2025 approval of minutes January 28th and February 7th 2025 approval of board of Finance minutes January 28th 2025 we approve the consent agenda second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all the in favor say I I I those opposed say sign motion approve thank you Melanie announcements uh we have a new director uh of the PTO County Veterans Affairs Department uh Chris mol mulchin did I pronounce that right is Chris here y can you come up here just for a [Music] second when we get familiar with the face Cas we got to blame somebody Pi out of a lineup good with that how are you this morning wonderful thank thank you welcome thank you very much could you just give us a quick back a little bit about your background absolutely yeah I've served in the United States Marine Corp and uh thank you spent 20 years in law enforcement and uh most recently I was a senior manager with carax Incorporated strong background thank you very welcome thank you so much we're here if you have any questions thank you very much for letting me come up you're welcome Commissioners we have a resolution of the Porter County Board of

Commissioners Ambulance Service uh uh Ambulance Service committee Scott can you give us a a summary so the [Music] uh this is a proposed a resolution by the Commissioners in order to form um a committee to start working on the beginning stages of the ambulance uh contract that we have here in the county for ambulance service uh for most or for most of all unincorporated and some Incorporated the committee would be comined excuse me of two count two council members one commissioner uh the Commissioners could appoint one additional member with knowledge and ambulance and Ence negotiation um and then the council have one additional uh that they can appoint as well the initial question will be the appropriate path for the county to begin uh when dealing with the potential renewal of the ambulance contract and whether or not that should be an RFP Clos vid or we should be get negotiation that would be the beginning process that that commit would be um dealt to deal with and come back to the Commissioners with recomendation I move that we approve the resolution to form an ambulance uh service committee second we have a motion as well as a second for approval all those in favor say I I those oppos same sign motion approved before we move on can I just recommend that we open up our position for applications and I would recommend that the deadline for those applications be in by the Thursday before our next commissioner's meeting

so we have a chance to review them and the council do as well yes than good good point okay Northwest uh Indiana Regional Development Authority uh Sher [Music] Z [Music] morning I take we have what we have Sher sit at the table and anybody else setation well uh gentlemen uh because of the we've had to add some additional U items onto our our uh agenda this morning we're not going to have time for the presentation sure uh but we are very much looking forward to talking with uh M Zeller turn up thank [Music] you thank you good morning Sherry good morning commissioner how are we doing good with you all uh the Commissioners uh you know it's my understanding we we've been we've been um um participating in the in the uh the uh RDA since 2007 and um and uh it has been brought to my attention that the RDA has not presented in front of the Board of Commissioners or the County Council since that time as uh um you know giving us you know giving us an update on what what progresses are being made what is what is the ROI on our investment that we've invested since joining the r RDA uh

nearly $60 million here at Pony and wanted to know you know we want to know what our ouri is cuz we we get asked that and I've had this private conversation with you that and it's one of the reasons we made a change in our in our appointment and there's going to be more changes um coming from uh us as well in our appointments um that you know we're not you know the only information that we getting from you is if we reach out to you or is if or if we get on your website which is somewhat vague um but why don't you why don't you start out sharing and tell us what what you all been up to in the last 24 36 months can I can I just ask is Mr bco here uh he is not the chairman of our board Don was unable to make it today he he was unable to make it today okay well maybe when you come back to do the presentation we'll want to do it when he can make it I didn't put the request in but he he did ask that uh I do the presentation for the organization so I think we had questions for both the board president as well as you come back that I can defitely and and Sher please let him know that that coming from our board that I think it's only appropriate but certainly professional so when we offer a an invite that we get at least some kind of response even if it's sorry I can't make it he did not respond at all okay I will relay that message and I I apologize when I responded to the invite I had already spoke with our chairman and he asked that myself as shelter from policy analytics do the presentation today but I will I Mr Shel What were what was your I'm sorry what was your what was what were you compensating what was your company

compensated by the RDA last year uh we did uh about I don't know the total but it was about uh 25,000 20 to $25,000 a month so under 300,000 for both Financial advisory services and for doing the comprehens of strategic plan which is one of the things we were going to present to you and Sher it's it's my understanding that that you have your your intentions your board's attention or intention is to to bring it in a CFO we have had two and hires commissioner Vick and those two positions were filled in December of 2024 so we have an economic development director uh AJ fitner and then we have a controller not not quite CFO but controller and we brought her on also in December so her name ising yeah I'm kind of I'm kind of perplexed as to why I mean you all you all been you all been in operation since 2007 um and the monies you know you know being paid out by Lake County and Porter County have not changed since that time why the need for a controller at this point the the need for both of those positions is because uh with the roil projects those are winding down uh but what isn't winding down what's actually ramping up is the development in our Transit development Sy our tdgs that we are installing and they're becoming online all throughout l b County uh Lorton St Joe also so those those Transit development districts they operate much like TI districts and that

revenue is already starting to um approve and the RDA manages those dollars for Lake and pora counties and then the other two counties is the Redevelopment commission that manage those dollar so as those flow of funds come in we uh we needed uh more um uh positions to be filled to help manage those those funds to come so so the the controller position is going to manage those dollars coming in and then the economic development director that position is to manage and oversee the development that's going to be occurring uh and it's already occurring in the transit development district and um you know that's anything from working with the developers working with our communities trying to understand the um the development that our communities want to see uh understanding their Vision establishing that boundary we already have we have three boundaries that we're establishing uh uh yet this year um p and Bly Shores it's the next one that we've been working a lot with and I'm very interested in in your comments as well we've been working with both of the town councils there what sort the development that they would like to see how they would like to use their increment um they would like to connect to the Sewer in machine city which makes a lot of sense for them uh to really have any sort of good chance for Quality development there so so with all of that and the 13 Transit development districts that we are working with uh and they all get the chance to expand up to one time so there there's a lot of development underway and currently right now without even a penny of the transit development District dollar even being spent we're looking at $700 million in development and that's mostly hamon buer in mchine city but there's lots of opportunity that we see for Porter County as well with that development so so I hope I

answered your question as to justifying the need for those two positions well why would we just let those like I know shows of T why they and they have Economic Development why wouldn't we just let the individual municipalities do that to SL down Destiny why I I'm just trying to understand why now it has to be filtered through another organization which is another layer of bureaucracy and I'm just curious as to how that makes sense sir as well the way that the statute is uh is written that the RDA would manage those dollars on behalf of the communities and Lon B County and we would offer those services to help with you know helping with the capital St helping them think through the type of development that um could come their way be more proactive with the development that so it's really collaboration and it's really a partnership and that's the value that we can we bring to the development process in our yeah Sher I I have the same same concern that commissioner R obviously has and that is uh first of all we have you know between the two counties I I think it's safe to say we there's probably two dozen Redevelopment commissions uh in the two counties that are up and running uh that are uh I would think absolutely capable of doing that as well I was not aware I was aware of the tdds coming in but I wasn't aware that it was going to be the RDA capturing the money and dictating where the money is how the money is going to be spent so that's kind of news to me because now I can add that to the $3.5 billion that our taxpayers are already paying that you're you're going to you're going to get some some additional funds out of them as well I may have mpoke and I apologize uh we the RDA we do not determine what

development occurs so so ideally what would happen is when there a developer or development that our cities in towns are interested in they have that conversation with with the developer so if the developer calls the RG then our policy that you know thank you for letting us know but please go and work with your with your city and town if the if our uh Community is interested in pursuing that development then that's when we asked that they would contact the RDA and then we would work with them through the project uh we would run all the numbers and that's what policy analytics would be helpful with we work with kp& also and then we would help our communities really position them more in the driver's seat think okay here's how you would assum less so let's look at it from this perspective and we would help them with the capital stack and if they were interested in using their tdt increment which they do not have to do but if they were interested in using that to offset the cost that's where the RG would come in so we would do our financial analysis we would provide the oversight there uh but I I apologize if I if I miss Boer gave the impression that we picked the development we we don't but we do work with our cities and towns let them know what the highest and best use of their land is and that is how we that's how we chose the volunteering yeah I understand that but we also have Chambers and we also have other organiz ations that that are doing the same thing currectly I don't understand the if they're if they're again if they're deciding that I'm still trying to understand what that position is for an economic development director when all the palities I'm sure everybody in those TD they have they have staff they have people that are doing that so I'm just curious as to why the RBA then needs to add to that person right and and we're actually hearing that our cities and towns are like in capacity when it comes

to the economic development so this is uh a way to add capacity and a way for us to uh work with our communities on the development that they we've been working with our communities for I ever since really 2017 when the legislation passed for the transit development District but even before then to help them get ready for the training projects because we had last we and we had double track and we knew that these like these projects were likely to come to fruition in 2015 so we're talking about a decade plus that we've been working with our communities a lot of our communities well all of them in fact were at varing stages I planning for for Rail and quite honestly a lot of them have not had their plans updated to accommodate for rail comeing into their community so that was what the RGA we focused a lot of our efforts knowing that the rail projects were going to get funded and we wanted to make sure that our communities were ready for that development and I'm sure glad that we did do that because the developers have not waiting for the rail project to finish and that's a good thing and what also was a good benefit of our work with them is our communities were um Prim to um understand what kind of development that they would like to see so those are the deps of work that the RDA has done with our communities throughout the years and now that development is actually occurring we want to make sure that you know when the developer comes in you know and this isn't a knock out developers but they you know they want to assume as as least amount of risk as possible so what the transit development dist with those dollars do is it really helps to offset that and it really helps for our communities to be more in the driver's seat and have a real feed at the negotiation table saying okay well we understand that this is the capital stack that's been presented to us but what the RDA can do is say hey let's let's take a step back and let's look at this because there are some areas here

where you don't have to exume that risk so I understand what you're saying that the towns our communities uh they already have that on staff but we also we we bring that level of expertise and the state has charged us with um you know not only oversight Financial oversight of the rail projects but also to deliver that Roi that return on investment that was promised back to the state that doesn't necessarily come from the rail investment although very large investment but that Roi really comes from the development from the transit development District so we have promise to state that we would experience uh $2.7 billion in development so given that the RDA was given that high level of responsibility uh I do think that it's it's um our responsibility to have our staff have the expertise on our staff too now you mentioned St Joe K that's not really within your um jurisdiction correct leard and St Joe County are not pain members of the of the North with Indiana Regional Development Authority through the double track project we have been able to uh work with them they're they're what we call Cash participants for the double track project so any of our cities and towns that have a train station or Transit communities the uh statute does allow the RDA to create a Transit development District so we've been able to work in U Michigan City specifically and sou and what kind of compensation have you received from them they are not paying numers of now you see why we might have a problem with that what is your total compensation my annual salary um it is about 185 we're paying you $185,000 dollarars to go over there and work in another County with another uh municipality and they're not paying you they're not paying anything towards your

toward your uh your your your salary or benefits they are not pay MERS they are not well they're not paying at all I don't know what member they are of but they're not a member of the RDA cor so you see did you or your board see anything wrong with that this is the way that the statute is written that the transit development districts are eligible to be installed in our Transit community so Michigan City as part of the double check project and South Bend as the end of the line there are eligible to have Transit development District so we worked to establish their Transit development District but at this point they are collecting that revenue and we do not manage that for them and they're and they're not and you're not receiving any what we are receiving from communities outside of lake and Porter County is that return on investment number that when we worked with the state you get the rail funding for West Lake and double track that return on investment number so you're not receiving any kind of payment from from the city of M uh Michigan City Lort County or St Joe County or any municipalities within either of the counties uh on an annual or quarterly basis or monthly basis per Mr and that that is a that is a serious problem with us a serious problem we've invested in you we've invested in that board for the better part of what 17 years we we our taxpayers have given uh $59,500 th000 since then and you're and and you're told to go over there and uh I'm not pointing the finger directly at you the person who I have pointed at that is in set next to you Mr fesco cuz I know you you you answer to that board and you go where you're told

to go there's a problem with that and I and I'm going to have our attorney look to see if there's something we can do about that it isn't right it isn't right at all I'm not even blaming the city of Michigan cityor or St Joe County if you don't know you know if we're going to get it free why not why not I do have a question an additional question com to that so the funding for the double track that came from Lake County it came from por County it came came from State homes and it came from federal homes correct so our taxpayers in Porter County actually paid three times because they pay federal taxes they pay state taxes and they pay order coming taxes and I'm trying to understand if you can explain what the benefit is to pter County and can you talk about the ridership Trends on that on that system are are they stable are they going down are they going up and is that are you are you projected even ke of benefit from doing the double tracking are you seeing anything at this point in time so sorry so so the double check project it is is $643 million investment and you were right with with the funding the only thing I would add to that is ort and St joke they were also cash participants so those those dollars did not FL so that that makes us um the investment and that so that project came online Revenue Service came online last year may of 20124 and what it does is essentially double track offers faster more reliable more efficient more frequent service and what it really does

though is it opens up the possibility for new development along the lines so um the it actually runs all across Northern por County and it does include significant to the Portage a and doom station so back to the conversation that we were having with the development the the kind of the third part that the legislature saw was okay there's funding for Westlake there's funding for double track and those projects in and of themselves are really good they're creating a lot of construction jobs but the third leg of the school the missing part was okay but what can we do for development because we've all heard this the Train's been around for a very long time a century plus but there's really been no way to incentivize and promot the development so through the wisdom of the legislature they created that third L of the schol which is the sh of development District so that's our chance that's our shot of getting that quality development into our community so we've already worked with foron dun we've already worked with the town of pter their Transit development districts are online we are in very deep conversations with them on the types of development that they want to be specially ported the one that we're working on right now is um like I mentioned earlier Beverly Shores the town of P they to connect into that sewer with uh to Michigan City which makes a lot of sense and it really is their chance to open up uh any sort of real possibility for significant development so absent those Transit development districts uh we would we would likely still see a lack of of development or quality development at that uh within Pam has the RDA had any sub bilateral meetings with Port Authorities I'm sorry the Port Authorities Port Authorities in Birds har no no not going work okay well all right uh what Shoreline development has been completed

or is in or is currently under uh study or or consideration for Shoreline development for the RDA as you pointed out earlier commissioner B we've been around for about 20 years so the first 10 years we focused a lot on the shoreline project so that's part of our mandate in the legislation it's very clear what we were to focus on it's Shoreline restoration um it's um uh airport development and it's rail transportation and bus transportation those those are the four areas that we're to focus on so I would say the first 10 years we have made um I think it's $146 million investment just through our fund that not including um the followon costs and and um the other dollars that made up being investment so $146 million so um we have finished gosh uh eight shwi projects so I know that uh Tom Porter and that we're currently working on and then we have um pish L front Riverwalk which was actually one of our first projects that we finished um that was very early on so so um I might beov one or two but in terms of ones that are still open I think is might be your question so we are still working with this the Tom reporter on the remaining Grand dollar uh we're working with um you you just mentioned you just listed the the types of projects could you go through those again the RDA is to to fund uh sure so when we were created in 2006 by the Indiana and general assembly the assembly assigned us four areas that we're to focus on so it's Shoreline restoration and uh that coincides directly with the Marat plan that was authored by then Congressman Peter JY uh so we have um chackel and funded uh I want to say 55 miles of Shoreline throughout Lake Porter County with uh

with a shine project and then airport development so that would be the G Chicago International Airport and it also would be the porter countyal airport uh which we also do have a grant with Porter County Airport you and uh it's a Rail Project as we've talked a lot about today and it's also on B transportation project can we can we just Che about the first I'm not done with my question oh I'm sorry that's all right thank you then explain to me why the RDA what did you what what sizable amount of money did you Lo the city of East Chicago to build a senior center did we loan the city of Chicago to build aor Center I'm going to have to my colleague I'm not aware I don't remember how much that it was not a loan it was a grant it was a grant and I don't remember the size of that I don't think I do it was $600,000 and some change question is is is a project like that in you know where does that where do you plug that in in any of the the projects that you just listed the RDA was to be involved in if if you was so I'm trying to uh uh go on the that here on which which project that was is that the shoreline project that we've issued the you loan money to the city of East Chicago for a uh to build a senior apartment complex or Center of some type if I may if I that's the brownfields we have a a brownfields revolving Loan Fund uh could you could you could you give us your name real quick sure I'm Dave mman I'm the director of communications for the RDA otherwise we don't get on the M sure no problem um we have a Brownfield for evolving Loan Fund that was funded by the Environmental Protection Agency some years ago uh that $600,000 came out of the brownfields revolving Loan Fund

that's in the process of being paid back now um I believe they pay back 400,000 for that and have 200,000 remaining the next year so the RDA manages that fund yes is it's St corre wrong but that's in partnership with uh nury and the Forum and the RDA so I'm yeah I apologized earlier when when I thought that that would U be quite a stretch to have that in the scope of a shelin project so what projects are initiatives that you have going on right now in Porter County uh projects that we have going on right now in Porter County are the well I mean the double track project that uh finished last year but still uh some punch list items are are um being managed right now Theo Transit development District which I've not mentioned but we are working with the the city of Al though to establish their Transit development District as you'll recall from a previous session a year or two ago uh the uh Transit Center at jary that is now eligible uh to create a Transit development district there so he has been working with the city of Alo uh the transit development District in pish um OD dun did either one of the Cities actually receive funds from the RDA did they receive do they receive any funds from the RDA toward those particular projects that you just mentioned toward the development project yes uh the we we're laying the foundation right now so this is uh this is the process so right now we've laid the foundation to create the district yeah I'm sorry it's administrative your it's administrative Health that your assistants you're giving to that at this point it's not funding it's not funding and uh there actually is very little funding to uh to use towards development at this point if you'd like an explanation I can refer to my colleague bill sheldrick on how the

dollars appr and what the base here is they are appr but right now uh just how the legislation was created they're not acing um they they are appr but uh there's very very little balances in there that we wouldn't really be able to do much with those those were over time yeah we keep going back to those tdds and I'm just I really I'm stunned that any of the municipalities agreed to let you all hold the funds that are collected out of those those districts I I I don't know I I I see nothing I hear nothing that tells me you're better prepared to do that than their than their Redevelopment commissions I I don't get it I I just don't but there's a lot about this organization that I don't get you know I I don't get that you know basically a gun was put to our head you Wen around and I'm not blaming any of you you can blame me that's that uh to have to join it and to join it we we had to double the amount of income taxes that we charg to our residents I hear today that the investment we've made in you and as well as that organization is now floating across county lines to giving some of that expertise advice for nothing I and I and and for the life of me I can't I can't figure out why the state of Indiana and that's what you are you're just an arm of the state of Indiana uh that we were having to pay for but why they're allowing you to do that I'm still trying to understand what dollars could actually spense in Porter County what has so if it's true that we have put in 595 million to5 million of return I mean where where is the money being spent I where in pter county is it mean do we have any return on investment has even

pen Lon spent sure yeah and and thank you for that question and I know that when um specifically that letter came from you commissioner that you did ask how much investment has made in for County so on the presentation we have we have some Le behind here so so we have more than $47 million that the RGA has invested in Porter County um or directly impacting the county through grance and that that is not including the Rail Project certainly not including le as know that's Lake County but it's also that's not including the double check project either so those are those are direct grants made to Porter County uh in projects so as an example just a couple of examples if I have to do inher so we have uh additional passengers cars for Nix that was 175 million on our part I'm sorry you're counting that as an investment in or directly directly impact directly yeah that's interesting and and I sit on that board of directors for 12 years on the Southshore so but I would that is that is at the very least of stretch I think I'm going to chological order cityel Chicago Das 6 and5 million cityel those us 1.8 million um and then for Shoreline restoration Portage Northshore with a 92 million gateway to the dunes 3.9 million uh another gateway to the dunes 1.8 8 million uh page North short Lakefront 26 acre acquisition 350,000 uh we did we used to have a deal closing program uh we helped to bring in monosol for 1.57 million we helped to bring in P Industries for 1.4 million we have challenge grants uh we have count there's a

$200,000 Grant there we have Al liist station 200,000 Tom Pine 16,000 Burns Harbor 50,000 Porter County Airport 317,000 um and then a storm water Branch to the city of Alo $20,000 and that not double in your your county you say you help bring in pred Industries monol and who else those are the two that I have on my list for quter count but there's a lot of people taking credit for that the are we made an investment we worked with Indiana Economic Development Corporation to help fund those to get those uh two major employer to qu County I don't know who what you're doing the job of the for isn't that the responsibility of the Forum that program no longer exists our um our GE closing that was so you're not doing that anymore no we are not doing that anymore but we did do that program for six seven years back in uh I'm guessing so I I could be corrected but I want to say between 2010 and 2015 is my is my guest there so we were able to bring in uh just Insurance of Porter County those those two projects and I I can't speculate on the job of the form I know that they've receiv received R dollars uh that may have been something that just recently because they've been working on the right dollar postco we're talking you know preo at this point if if the the board would allow I'd like to open up any more question I just want to go back to the POR County Airport um and the process that they had go through to get a grant from you I know right now that they really need to do some Renovations over there do they have the ability

right now I know they're looking for like $3 to5 million to do some expansion over there they have a desperate need they have a huge waiting list for hangers that sort of thing what would that Pro St for them to get some funding so that we can kind of get back up to um at least another negative so um two parts to that uh to that question so so there are some hours remaining in their Grant we're in conversation with um Mr cuer and uh so we're trying to understand exactly where their needs are and I know that they may be raing for some federal funds so there's some opportunity there one thing we haven't had a chance to talk about today was the new comprehensive strategic plan which I know in the request letter for the presentation you wanted us to touch on we continue to leave behind and happy have followup conversation uh in there we really are focusing a lot on the Porter County airport so uh I think that there's plenty of opportunities so exactly what you said there are things that we are looking to help them expand and we've already done some preliminary studies with the airport we find it to be uh hugely beneficial to to the county and to the state and that's one of main projects of the comprehensive strategic plan so of the six you know kind of Big Ideas that we didn't get into today that that was one that we were excited to talk about again can I know you're for short on time here happy to have a longer conversation about that particular project but that is um that is on our list uh and we're currently out talking to folks such as yourself Lo officials stakeholders about opportunities within the airport and others within within border of County as well we would love to have some sort of dialogue because I know this is the very first time I've ever met you I've never had any opportunity to meet with anybody on the RDA and I didn't even know how to get in touch with anyone so it would be really nice if we could have more of an

opportunity to have input and to have our um you know our needs and and what we're seeing as our high priorities in this County I could more commissioner you are a paint member of uh to the RDA and uh commissioner B had had mentioned this at the beginning so uh you know we there yes there was a breakdown in communication and I take I take ownership of that I've been a CEO for for 3 years and uh this is something that um you know should should not have happened the way that it did so the meeting that we have with commissioner BS and um councilman Redstone that was you know kind of beginning of hey there's a you know there there's a problem here and as a deliverable as a result of that meeting which I thought was a positive meeting that we're moving you know we're moving towards was to have increased communication and we did offer and we wrote your letter so you had it in any time that you want us to update you we are more than happy to and I know that you have an appointment to the uh RDA board and uh happy happy to work with him happy to work through him every uh appointed Authority has a preference on how they communicate with the RDA nonetheless though that not withstanding uh sharing what I heard at that last meeting and hearing today uh you have you have my word on Minimate as a priority to to continue with uh what we're doing and uh you may not you may not like everything that that we're doing that's okay but I'm I'm interested in opening up this dialogue to see to see what we can agree on to see what we can work on and I do appreciate this opportunity yeah I I know you do um but it's it's going to be it's going to be and this is what you need to be bring back to your board it's going to be a little little difficult to communicate with you if the board president is not

uh makes himself available when when we asked for the first time in 17 years ask him to appear and he's been I don't know how many years he's been the governor's appointment He's chaired that board and and to not answer at all our invite I'm going to say it a height of vars I will take responsibility for that uh again I did have a conversation with chairman C I asked him how he would like to handle this and he as being the president and CEO he has asked me and to bring along my colleague Bill shelter to do the presentation today I will I will he owes you lunch at a real nice restaurant for taking the shots for him at the very very least we look we got a we have a full agenda here today I want to ask uh I want to ask the we have the president of the County Council and the vice president of the County councel uh they had a couple of questions they want to ask before we two short little questions mam um we talked about development along the lines of double track yes that's correct have we done any development in laort and St Joel County at this time from the RDA there have there has been development uh in Lort County Michigan City uh probably uh accumulating most of the development at this point now the RDA so so those Transit development districts that that that Revenue that increment uh although it's proving that and there's not a lot of dollars in there those dollars are not being advantaged by the RDA so the development that you're seeing in uh Lort County or even St Joe County um added to their their Redevelopment commission what we did do is we created the uh Transit development District

through legislation that directs the RDA to create those in our Transit communities so that's the RDA um the extent of our involvement in Lort County and it's with Michigan City so there's been no cash outl to that there have been no cash through the RDA uh the other question I had you you mentioned uh line development same basically same question is uh we're both uh my first on this question here is that have you done anything with leport County Primary because more so than St jul far away from the lake have you done anything with them outlay of cash for their Shoreline development sir we have not not in Shoreline development the only the only uh involvement I would say the part the partnership that you might remember was back in 2015 2016 when the RDA was working to assemble the um the financing the funding for the double track project so uh RDA made an investment on behalf of lake and Porter County the state made an investment uh and then uh leaport County and St Joe County favored cash parchas those dollars did not flow through the RGA they again they they are not pay members of the RGA so we we do not make investments with RDA doar and those do anything UPS L County do you project to do anything either along the shoreline or rail line working for a cash Outlet to either of these counties if report County or St Joe County or any of the municipalities are interested in joining the RDA which would likely take um legislative action at that at that point if we are directed to work with them as they would be paying mbers RGA at that point then we could work out there could

be projects in the future that have yet to be defined now back in 2005 when the RDA legislation was being created laort County was asked to be part of the RDA and they declined so if they'd like to join the RDA it would take an act of the legislature to do that and then if at that point they'd like to do that if that's if that's the will of the legislature General assembly then the RDA uh would be willing to work with them on their project so just to be absolutely clear not P1 you he these RDA RDA dollars yes have not gone to uh any projects in Michigan City or Porter County talk so so there's that there you know how how the funding is broken down we're happy to explain it to you but I'm getting very high level overview that for for the double track project the RDA made the investment on behalf of L or County or or double okay you just have to understand my concern you know we we basically mandate to do more less it's one thing to do that but another to do more by contributing nothing so thank you thank you great I don't have anything I just like uh tell the commission thank you for inviting us very one last question for you uh uh Jerry is um House Bill 1628 the energy bill [Music] um I ran into you downstate I had walked by I was on the phone and but you were outside that committee room what was what was the

um is your or the your board's um thoughts or opinions on did you were you supporting that bill commissioner I wish we had a chance to talk that day I I was not there to testify I was not there for how Bill 1628 or any of the Senate bills being heard that their hous I was there for meeting with the governor's office so uh that meeting uh I was waiting in the hallway for the conference room to open so so that's where you saw me I was not there and supported I don't know what those are be that day if I had a meeting with the governor's office good enough thank you I just have one followup question from uh compliment about this um was I I saw in a paper that there was a train station or is a train station being built in Michigan City who is funding [Music] that uh sure uher so so what being funded in Michigan City is um is the garage I believe that that might be what you're what you're speaking of so that would be federal dollars that would be the cash participants from Lort in St Joe that would be State dollars and that' be RDA dollar again RDA doctors are on behalf of lake and bter County they did not directly go to the Michigan City project okay so for County and Lake County funds did go to help pay for the train station in Michigan City no I said that sorry let me let me try this again the the double cheack project is funded through federal dollars through State dollars to Regional dollars through local dollars Michigan City and um and uh Lort County and um St Jo count are cash participants I want to say it's 800,000 and then the the RDA Lake border County our contribution to the double

track project was on behalf of Lake border County those dollars up to fund L border County the double track project is multi the multi-million dollar multi-jurisdictional project our dollars did not go to fund Rd dollars did not go to fund michine City there's State dollars there federal dollars those dollars went to F that L okay clarification any other question Mr no well thank you Sherry thank you Bill and I'm sorry I forgot your first name da Dave thank you very much for Tak that I know this was difficult not at all but but H you know my hope is something positive comes out of this uh you be a messenger to your board uh but we're dead serious we're we you know I don't I don't know what tool we have in our tool box if something doesn't change we're going to take you know we're going to take it to another level um so we're going to be heard commissioner and by your own admission you stated you you thought that the ROI here this County was roughly $45 million we've contributed almost 60 so correction I our investment to B County 47 million that is not that is not the ROI we're Happ to calculate Roi but the direct investment of RDA doll is for the7 so you know and that's my point but I you know I'm I'm not going to dig dig that up again but thank you so much for taking the time I know this has has been wasn't easy so no it was these conversations need to be had so like we talked about at our last inperson meeting uh I RJ is committed to working with cter County and fixing the communication uh issues we have there and any sort of future opportunities that we have such as the airport we are working very diligently we have finished the rep putting the final touches on the

new comprehensive strategic plan that might be a next good conversation uh to have with you all on those big ideas that that we're unveiling right now and that lays out the next two decades of project that the RDA has identified that would have the strongest not investment for L count in we'll we'll talk we I'll reach out or one of the Commissioners will reach out I'm sure with the council we'll talk again in private and about what we can do to to help you know strengthen this communication so everybody's on a clear you know path on as who doing what why okay appreciate it thank you thank you all a [Music] day see here uh notification uh that American Fidelity will be conducting a uh dependent verification [Music] audit good morning your name yes um AR luia I a state manager um in Indiana with American pel I'm here on behalf of not just American fael but uh General Insurance Services your your broker as well as uh Human Resources office um uh American fell worked with Porter County now since uh January 1st of 2022 when uh began our relationship it's been very strong very strong partnership um some of the services that we are currently providing for for county is we are your um employee benefits enrollment arm and so during the open enrollment of the fall and and when new hires are on boarded uh American fael provides uh both Manpower and technological resources to to get that done uh we also administer your section 125 uh compliance as well as your heal

savings account the way American Fidelity works is we work under what's called an exchange of services agreement uh meaning there is no Direct Cash outlay from the county to American Fidelity for those Services um in exchange for that we are the um the carrier for some of your voluntary benefit programs so that uh might be long-term disability coverage that's offered to the employees Voluntary Life Insurance and some uh supplemental type programs um over the past four years uh We've really established a trusting relationship with your employees here at B County um and some of the results I can point to that is uh currently 83% of the employees within B County participate in at least one benefit with Americans devel so they are taking some money out of their own paycheck to purchase whether it be life insurance or disability coverage or a supplemental plan for them and their families because they um have a trust in American Fidelity so uh we are very happy for that partnership um also after open enrollment I was able to conduct some uh gather some results from surveys that get sent out to the employees after they complete that and I'm happy to say that 88% of your employees uh stated that they were either satisfied or highly satisfied uh with their open enrollment experience and actually over 60% of that 88 was in that highly satisfied category so I say you can get 88% of your employees to be satisfied with something you're doing pretty well um with that being said um one of the services that American Fidelity uh provides to our employer customers that we um are uh proposing that we we uh do here at for county is what's called a dependent verification audit dependent verification review um for re I I'll refer them to EV on dependent verification review is kind of what we

we call that inh house um again this would also fall under that exchange of services agreement um you would not be paying American Fidelity anything to complete the service and we're proposing that this take place in uh the second quarter of 2025 so likely it will take place in the uh mid to late April uh time period what a dependent verification review is or DVR is essentially it's um one of the um recommendations for the overall long-term Health Financial Health of your employee your employee benefit program specifically your health insurance plan uh you guys have a very rich health insurance plan if it's well uh as as just a individual person I'm quite jealous what you guys provide uh from a health insurance perspective with that being said I know that it it's it's a very large line item um in your budget um there's obviously benefits of that that's what helps you attract and retain a good employees um but we still want to try to manage that cost uh as as best we can and independent verification review is one of the uh recommended recommended tools um kind of checkups you might say as it relates to the health of your your plan and it's recommended that this be done every four to 5 years if you're a fully self-funded health insurance plan uh at last check the last time that pter County went through this process was 2020 so this is right around the right time to do that um essentially what a defendent verification review is is kind of as it sounds we would be verifying or assisting the county to verify all active dependents um that are covered under your group health insurance plan to verify that they are still active as eligible dependent okay so um there's a variety of reasons why

ineligible dependent may may be covered currently um and I don't want to get into all those different reasons but uh those could be you know some of the more common ones that we might see is uh you know maybe uh uh a an employee here is covering some children both maybe their own biological children and maybe some stepchildren uh but the spouse is not covered that the spouse takes insurance through through their employer um maybe those two spouses get divorced and because the uh coverage is not actually going to change from a pricing standpoint the employee thinks well I'm still just paying for for me and my children I don't I don't need to let the county know that you know these other two children need to be taken off of the planate and you know know time goes on we we sleep a few times a week and it it you know it's in and out of our mind and I think I think we understand you understand where where that's coming so uh the reason we would want to do this is just uh to clean that up so that we're not paying dollars uh for people that should not be on on the insurance and so uh American fael again does not not charge for the service um it's a value added service um uh as part of our partnership we're very happy with uh entertain a motion to approve the audit sure we approve auditing U the dependence our dependence in our plan second we have a motion as well as a second for approval all those in favor say I I those oppose same sign motion approved thank you thank you thank you in ordance of establishing a non reverting Bond 4607 for the settlement and payment of the uh 2024 General obligation Bond General obligation Bond first reading in order for us to do that I will have to close the Commissioners meeting and open

up a public meeting I will ask uh three times for those who are supporting this to come forward then three times for those who not are not supporting it to come forward uh so I'm going to I'll close the Commissioners meeting open up to the public meeting um those those in favor of speaking against this ordinance please come [Music] forward those in favor of speaking against this ordinance please come forward second call third and final call those in favor speaking against this ordinance please come forward seeing none those in fa uh I'll move on to uh those in favor of wanting to speak in favor of this orders please come forward second call those any anyone wanting to come forward speaking in favor of this ordinance please come forward third and final call anyone wanting to speak in favor of this ordinance please come forward seeing none I'll close the public meeting back up to the commissioner's meeting and with that we approve the ordinance establishing a noning f 4607 for the settlement and payment of the 2024 General obligation on on first second we have a motion as well as a second for approval all those in favor say I I I those oppos same sign motion approved we have an ordinance establishing non-ring fund number 4608 for the construction and management of the 2024 General obligation Bond first reading I'll close the commissioner's meeting open up to the public meeting anyone wanting to come forward to speak against this or second call anyone wanting to come before this board to speak against this

ordinance third and final call anyone wanting to come forward to speak in in uh against this ordinance seeing none we'll move to anyone wanting to speak in favor of this ordinance please step forward second call anyone wanting to speak in favor of this ordinance please step [Music] forward third and final call anyone wanting to speak in favor of this ordinance please step forward seeing n I'll close the public meeting open back up the commission's meeting there 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back I believe that we approve the ordinance to establish a non reing fund 4608 through the construction and management of 2020 for General obligation LA on first reading second we have a motion as well as a second for approval all those in favor say I I I did I get an eye on you yeah okay those oppos the same sign motion approved thank you and move on to the jail skilman [Music] uh War good morning you still morning yeah still morning uh just for the jail we have uh item number one which is Carell brooken pay application number five in the amount of $63,800 that be approve second we have a motion as well as a second for approval all those in favor say I I those oppos same sign motion approved thank you uh item number on the agenda here is SOC Enterprises this is the uh UPS system which um is still original from when the jail was

built this is a battery backup system uh we would like to purchase the material ahead of time um which is in our budget for project number two just so material ride sometime uh in in waterp installation so we did send this out to three different contractors so back Enterprises is uh lowest and the contractor who met all these specifications and just for clarification the actual installation and everything else that's part of the bidding process that you have currently and rine correct yes this is material I know that we approve the purchase of the UPS replacement system from C Enterprises in the amount of $28,750 second and this is all within our budget correct yes we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppos say sign motion approved thank you um item number three is poly jail Building Company um just a quick explanation on this the RR Brinks uh which was the uh detention lock systems that were originally installed in the jail they've obviously gone odd business it's been quite some time Willoughby is the only um manufacturer who does replacing into parts and pieces for those locks so basically uh we're trying to procure these locks detention systems hollow metal metal doors for the riot doors uh ahead of time of the project to help secure the building um in the amount of 1,251 596 uh this is a proprietary um subject here where we've uh worked with willby and poly jail and the jail staff to deter and this amount is all within our budget correct yes I will that we approve uh the the installation with Paul in jail in the amount of

$1,215 second we have a motion as well as a second for approval all those in favor say I I those oppos say sign motion approve thank you Health Department Wiz had a busy week and it's already Tuesday when you get done with this you give us please give everybody an update as to where we are with the 157 PR yeah sleeping is an option um right um just to let everyone know um phase three on the health department the Final Phase is underway um our ground staff has moved all of the um stuff out of the phase three area so demo is already underway they' got most of the already torn out um so that should be finalized by the end of May and we'll be able to move forward and get that get everybody back in yeah right now they're just kind of crammed into the new section so getting through all that Cris right now carer and her her crew have been really good to work with and getting everything done with it so we're really happy so today before you you've got p app number seven the B construction for 46229 stairs say we approve second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppos say sign motion approved so just a quick update um as all of you probably know by now we've had a catastrophic uh water event over at 157 which impacted the entire uh voters uh Department Election Department um the water was pretty devastating in the building um impacting the entire workpace all the employees have boxed up

their stuff and are now working out of the courthouse um for likely the forceable future um as we get things um mitigated over there so I've already reached out to our insurance carrier um we are covered and got um they said that everything we've been doing is is right on and just keep getting it done um we'll be having a meeting with them um as well as a separate meeting with with staff to discuss what needs to be done what steps they need to take and then how we're going to proceed forward I sent the Commissioners um a copy of our next steps that will be involved in this process there may be some U items that we're going to move up um as far as the project as we had anticipated getting some stuff done over there um out of the bond so we may kind of move those up just as a matter of practicality since they're out of the way just get in there and get it done so that might be coming up on your next agenda uh I'd like to ask you any correspondence you have with our insurance company make sure that uh the County Attorney is part of that correspondence oh there was we just had two phone calls so far do you know know the council had an interest in that question that I don't know because I I didn't ask that question specifically but I'm I'm I'm sure Mel can I don't know about um [Music] property but if it's the damage is significant that building that building is not going to be those floors at least vo registration inh habitable for the the some of the voters equipment in the basement was also impacted that's going to be assessed by the vendor um any equipment that's been impacted um is going to need to get replaced and we'll work with them on getting that replaced and to to Joe's Credit I mean he immediately got two two different

companies in there drying everything out working on each floor so we're moving as quickly judicious judiciously as possible without missing something so uh it had to happen better to happen in a non-election year that it's better not to happen at all but I I just want to get some kind of idea your best guess with things will be fixed there I would say 6 to 90 days that's but yes okay it'll be done as quick as possible okay all right thank you Health Department Carrie gersman director nordon creating a nonreverting fund uh number 8922 uh aha Grant fund second reading I a motion that we approve that ordinance on second reading second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oos say sign motion than you didn't have to STI around for all that I know you didn't have close me uh Corner Cindy dyes uh Cindy dyes uh the third extension to the hospital Services agreement between Porter Hospital LLC Porter Hospital and the Porter County corner for autopsy radiology and lab feed associated with autopsies ordered by the corner for a 21 month uh term no change in fees move that we approve the third extension to the hospital Services agreement between por Porter Hospital doing business as Porter Hospital and Porter County cor uh coroner for autopsy radiology and L 24 month sorry we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those opposed same sign

motion to approve thank you you're welcome Expo Senator Lori Dy we have a request to purchase a 2024 F250 from boac in the amount of $ 47,1 2016 options included a different truck from Bic was approved at our last meeting if you if the commissioner to remember but the truck is no longer available so I uh Lori called me and um asked me if we would have a problem with um purchasing business well get front and ask a question I hope that we approved the purchase of the 2024 F250 from B am of $ 47,1 2016 which includes the options second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppos same sign motion approved uh we got a p County a society building at the Vilan just north of the of the Midway discussion David how are you sir good thank you nice to see you good [Music] that's what that was I yeah sorry so this has been a a cut process of money for a long time and we talked about it many years ago and David brought it to me all maybe after the fair and said what do you think and I said yes please and what would this beuse for you just talk about well the purpose of it for the fair would be a pre entertainment area we we have local entertainment like with have some cloggers and and dancers and and performers that are free local bands some more Regional bands and then um beyond that the the county could use it for wedding picnic um there's probably a

handful of existing events that would add this on to their the space that they um Reserve but I think this would add a lot to that where on the property you know that part place the intent is it's basically just to the north north side of uh Expo like sort of mid between Expo and Expo East just to the north of there on the north side of the so it's going to have a concrete floor in it attractive looking move building of BU building and part part of the uh idea was to make it maintenance free you the initial IDE IDE was to use a wooden um like trusses and things like that but with wooden trusses you know obviously it would need to be restained every couple years so we're going to have a full wood look but it'll be metal and and make it obious you see metal aluminum yeah great super wellever can't motion well what are you asking us I we you're asking you to approve that based on discussion there Reon I was a a green space thing before comment green space but this is already a hard surface area so we not Pi up any green space do I need to come back to the next meeting to get appr I don't think so unless Scott thinks [Music] so I think the the only the only uh key to be Cross or I to be gotted D was whether or not I think the commissioner's official action today was going be approving this to begin the process and if there is a process of imp planting St I'm not sure if there is or isn't but if there is they would need to move to that do we

need any sort of umou would be [Music] exerting what would the be dealing with I mean we're still if we're both using it us mostly then for then who the who who would be the owner of this you who's hone where are the dollar coming from exed we wanted to see if we could do a joint venture but we I think we do because we have official minutes of this meeting making it clear that the commission or the county owns the building and the a society is is funing structure that's a pretty good partnership so I don't see the point of an just um just a note I know in a little vote here but just a note over the last two years the a society with with ar funds Etc spent north of a million dollars we've totally rone all the elting um we've uh um added a generator from the Expo Center it's been very helpful for themed used a couple yeah and um the bathroom out by the grand stands recently had a a an issue when it would get excessive usage during the the concerts and um we had we spent over $30,000 to have new Plumbing put in there and a new drain to the main line so that eliminate those anyway we it's like having a rich Uncle thank you Dave and and new fence around the outside of the perimeter and we truly appreciate that we appreciate your relation we'll entertain a motion and that we approve the um building of the civilian with the Porter County EG Society second we have a motion for approval as well as a

second all those in favor say I I those oppose same sign motion approve thank you it Mr chers we got a Comcast 2-year renewal contract for internet services with the monthly fee well I'd love seeing you when you didn't have a fee to to present to us every single meeting of $214.95 and a one-time processing fee of $29.95 I we approve second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppose same sign motion approved thank you Mr Wisa we have Ryan uh fire protection fire extinguisher Services quotes for the following year to be paid for from the facilities budget fire could you you want to read those sure well how I just make the motion and read them at the same time you can def okay I move that we approve uh the Ryan fire protection process quotes for the old Sheriff's residence Shale for $565 the sheriff for 3,710 Sheriff's garage $65 Courthouse 265 environmental $490 th 260 jdc 180 North County anex 565 Z Highway 345 keep Highway [Music] 250 there was a motion that was a motion we have a second second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those opposing sign motion approved uh number two permogreen commission Morales could you read that though yes this proposal for following provide

fertilizer Rec control to be paid from facility budget Courthouse not to exceed 725,000 annually administration building not to exceed 525,000 annually North County amount to exceed 5,500 annually I that we approve it but just C to $525 on the administration yeah I just real quick we got a motion as well as a second read through those fees again so we Cal clear Courthouse not to exceed $725 administration building not to exceed $525 North County not to exceed 5,500 but the first time 725,000 I said with that corre my motion was with that correction so we have a motion uh we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I I those oppos same sign motion approved Odus services and repair Category 5 electric tractor elevator test requirement at 157 Franklin Street in the amount of $ 48634 requesting to be paid out of the commissioner's budget commiss commissioner facility budget well that says commissioner's budget I was ready to say no we approve uh The Proposal with OD service and repair to pay to be paid out of the facilities budget 48645 that's your motion second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppos same sign motion approved uh Barb to read number four we have proposals for the Sally P the jual Detention Center to be paid out

of the bond SDI $819 and Higgin overhead door $2,115 is is for SDI I know that we approved SDI for the S Port door Epal detention centor for 8,119 second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppos same sign motion approved thank you Highway Department Mr CL superintendent we get accepting annual bituminous bids uh bids will be due at the auditor's office Monday March 31st open an award at the April 1st Commissioners meeting that's just basically an announcement correct correct all right we're go to number two request for an additional appropriation fund number 1169 account 2360 Aggregates in the amount of $300,000 for pavment preservation and that we second we have a motion uh uh for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppos same signs motion approved number three ind. request for approval of of the reimbursement contract for repairs on 150 East and 500 South that have been awarded at previous meetings all right this is just a contract between County and in reimbursement I hope that we approve the contract for re from IND for the repairs 150 East and 500 South second we have a motion for approval as well as the second all those in favor say I I those opposed same sign motion approved thank you sir the development storm water management uh director jbo uh commissioner Morales would you read number one item number one this is an ordinance for a zoning

act Amendment to the unified development ordinance petitioner Timothy and J Murphy pertains to the southeast corner of L 76 Maran acre subdivision forter Township from high Tennesse commercial District CH residential Lake District to low density single family residential district R1 first good morning Commissioners with me I have Mr Murphy and he's the property owner um this went through the plan commission uh to the UN situation there should be a graphic in your packet Mery zoning piece of property that's Z both residential RL zoning as well as commercial zoning wish to build a home on the property they purchased recently unfortunately on the RL and the commercials only that made a little complex so through the plan commission the plan commission agreed to Res Zone it R1 with the condition there's some existing accessory structures in the front that the mph appear before the EA and get approval on that as they didn't do and so there for you today to ask for first so are you going to live in this house yes excited yeah okay I'm going to close the commissioner's meeting and open up to the public meeting and I'm going to ask anybody would like to speak in favor of this ordinance please come forward second call anybody like to speak in favor of this ordinance please come forward third and final call anyone like to speak in favor and Scott let me correct myself here is this an ordinance it's just a this is an ordinance this is the zone change first reading all right uh third and final call anybody would like to speak in favor of this ordinance please

come forward seeing none anyone would like to speak against this ordinance please come forward second call anyone like to speak in against this ordinance please come [Music] forward third and final call anyone would like to speak against this ORD please come forward seeing n I'll close the public meeting open back up to the commissioner's meeting I'll entertain a motion that we approve the ordinance for zoning M map amendments uh pertaining to the southeast corner of lot 76 milon Acres subdivision border Township from high-intensity commercial th uh to low down the single family residential R1 on first reading second so we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppose same sign motion approved good luck folks thank you very much we'll come back next meeting you'll come back next meeting you don't have to nothing's going to change but congratulations dlz uh Scott Mike we have item number two barer an agreement for Design Services for replacement of count 300 South Bridge 12 over Crooked Creek in the amount of $451,500 [Music] this is Morgan part of Bri program to continue recommend approval we approve second we have a motion as well as a second for approval

all those in favor say I I I uh those oppos say sign motion approve councilman Morales would you read item number three pz Indiana LLC and agement for Design Services for replacement of Cony Road 625 west bridge bridge 61 over bra oil ditch in the amount of $475,000 uh this bridg is in room Township and like the one previously we went through the end proc and you approve the award we recommend approval and that we approve second we have a motion for approval as well a second all those in favor say I I those opposed saying sign motion approved commissioner rig item number four dzn LLC an agreement for design Ser services for the countywide sign replacement project in the amount of $71,500 I do have a question on this why do we need um a design services for the signs I'm just wondering what that because we have to prepare according to indot procedures we have to do the environmental documents it's a requirement we have to put together instruction information we just call and approve second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppos same sign motion approved MRIs United Consulting Engineers in agreement for the wideway acquisition services for replacement of County 300 South Bridge 95 or we like to addition the amount of $ 38,6 35 this is a continuation so once through the designs we can acquire RightWay services this isn't the

acquisition of RightWay the services we recommend approval we approve second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppose same sign motion approved Bar number six in that a local matx for the construction replacement of County Road 600 North Bridge 98 over Salt Creek and the amount of $263 3169 and I'll pay the 99 thank you uh this is our mat share for the project that is left by recently we recommend approval I'm that appr person second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppos same sign motion approved Mr Morales number seven Zer [Music] g spatel a request to purchase a trimble r980 gnss receiver in the amount of $ 23,4 70 which will be split between the accumulative bricks 67% storm water 33% this is an upgrade from the existing GPS unit do this is for people go out the field to survey it's a global positioning satellite very accurate piece of equipment both storm water and transportation Fire split between two bus you have equipment nowon we have equipment now but it's old and approve second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppose same sign motion approved now uh we got a couple of other items that were that were thrown to us at the last minute um Mike you want to explain number eight

we got a recommendation to receive bids uh for the brommet road culber replacement project anticipated opening bid at April 25th Commissioners meeting the reason you stop me if I'm wrong the reason we're getting these at displayed hour they have time limits on them so correct the quicker quicker we can get it out I mean we could have come at a later G and actually could be as early as your April me first meeting in April prer the consultant is nearing their completion we' like to get this out b as quickly as possible so it'll be one of your meetings in April but we so let's let's deal with number eight first which is a recommendation to receive bids for the Brown Road c replacement project I that approve second we have a motion to approve as well as a second all those in favor say i i i those oppose same sign motion approved we have a professional Appraisal Services LLC Appraisal Services for three Parcels for the Min Mineral Springs uh Road Bridge number 150 over little Cal River again apologies for the last minute but things are going quicker on this thing than we originally just anticipated we got the environmental extensions which worried us as far as for that project and the engineers scr design know as you know RightWay does take time so we're up against the gun to get this RightWay done but now that we got all the other stuff done that's good news that that project is finally started so who is this with and what is the down amount uh professional Appraisal Services I think I put in your packet uh there the sheet you look down there look at his proposals you's got a minimum and maximum V it depends on what kind of appraisal U short form form or long form it should

not exceed $118,800 not to exceed I hope that is much l we go to Shorter forms on the two small Parcels motion I Mo that we approve uh the proposal of professional Appraisal Services for the three Parcels for Mineral Springs Road Bridge 150 over little County River not to exceed 18,8 house a second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppos say sign motion approved thank that's fine um we got a why want to read number one you have something I request to use judge T's courtroom to take office photographs and short videos judge Toody has agree to allow them access and I move that we approve second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppos same sign motion approved Mr par you want to read the final a request from the Bel rzo high school that's buor by the way I know you're going to ask request from B High School mock trial team to use judge M D's courtroom on Tuesday February 18th and 13th February 20th from 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. move that we approve second we have a motion for approval as well as a second all those in favor say I I those oppos same sign motion approved we have any other matter which may properly come before the board commission thank you thank you very much have a great day

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