Planning and Zoning Board - Regular Meeting
The Planning and Zoning Board approved text amendments to update driveway standards and definitions, and recommended approval for a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment for Verano South Pod H to change land use from residential golf course to commercial general. The board also approved a landscape modification for Lotis at Tradition and a special exception use for Raw Athletics. A request to rezone a parcel for Midway Specialty Care Center was approved, while a request to amend the Tradition MPUD for retail/office use was tabled for further traffic analysis.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- Planning and Zoning Board
- Meeting Type
- Planning And Zoning Board
- Location
- Port St. Lucie, FL
- Meeting Date
- April 7, 2026
Transcript
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Six. We need to call to order. And please call the roll.
Chair Norton.
Here.
Miss Miserino. Here. Mister Rosen. Here. Mister Reckinis.
Yes, ma'am.
Mister Webb? Here. Mister Prevot? Yes. Mister Spitarra? Here. And miss Fogarty is here.
Everyone's here, and we do have a quorum. Please stamp in the pledge.
We're over quorum.
I pledge pledge allegiance allegiance to to the the flag flag of of the The United United States States Of Of America. America and to your republic for which stands, one nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all.
Start with the approval of the minutes. I'll entertain a motion.
I make a motion we approve the minutes.
I'll second it.
We have a motion to second. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. The March 3 minutes are approved. Okay. Nothing on the consent agenda. Then we'll move into the public hearing. Item seven's non quasi judicial, seven a p two six dash zero two zero. And we have a presentation from staff.
Hello. Good evening, mister chairman, members of the board. Bethany Grubbs with the planning department. The item before you is a text amendment that city initiated. The city initiated text amendment is to update the driveway standards, add new definitions which support the new updated driveway standards, setbacks and landscape area requirements for driveways and front yards, and provide typical lot scenario figures to include in the code for visual aids.
The purpose is to establish minimum separation between primary and secondary driveways, formerly known as circular driveways, to put some context behind the terminology, connector segment and turnaround setbacks, landscape impervious area requirements, and updated definitions aligned with these proposed standards. Review of the city code showed inconsistent standards for residential driveways and vehicle parking, therefore requiring clarification with this text amendment. The planning and zoning department with neighborhood services and public works collaborated to align driveway definitions and standards. For context, planning and zoning code sets the standards for driveway requirements. Neighborhood Services is the enforcement authority for parking violations, and Public Works permits driveways.
So we all came together, reviewed the driveway section to clarify it. Current code section one fifty eight point two two two requires all driveways to be paved, while section one fifty eight two one seven allows residential driveways of concrete stone or wood creating inconsistencies. Staff review shows the need to replace the term circular driveway with primary and secondary driveway terminology and add clear setback expectations, setbacks between the two legs, we can call them. And this term circular driveway is replaced in clearer terms with primary driveway and secondary driveway, which are later defined in Chapter 153, the definition section of code. And in 2021, there was a text amendment that required circular or t turnaround areas for certain roadways located on collector or arterial roads for safety for ease of backing out into the roadway, that way it was safer, and graveled areas on certain residential lots in place of the concrete in those areas.
Amendments establish separation requirements between driveway setbacks and setbacks from home and property lines to preserve the landscape areas. Under the proposed amendment, what is underlined is a new definition to be presented into the code and adopted. Therefore, we are proposing driveway connector segment for single family residential, a segment of a driveway configuration that provides the internal connection between the primary driveway and the secondary driveway. The connector segment enables a continuous path within the site, including straight angled or curved connections. I did want to go back and mention this text amendment is specific only to residential properties and not commercial, industrial, etcetera.
Driveway entrance, single family residential, a paved access area that provides vehicular ingress or egress between a public or private right of way and the abutting property. The driveway entrance begins at the edge of pavement within the roadway and extends inward to the property line and must be paved surface constructed in accordance with the city's engineering standards. That's the section that receives the permit through the Public Works Department. It's the section that's paved abutting the right of way. Primary driveway for single family, the main access segment of a driveway configuration extending from the public or private right of way into the abutting property and leading to a designated parking area or garage space.
Driveway secondary single family residential, the auxiliary segment to a primary driveway intended to complete a long loop or connection or secondary ingress egress. Garage face. The garage face is the vertical plane created by the exterior wall of a garage or carport containing the primary vehicular access doors. This includes the original garage door on enclosed garages or the open facing structural wall of a carport. The garage face represents the point at which the driveway terminates and serves as the functional end of the vehicular access way to the structure.
And then we have under the defined term c, paved surface, ground covered with concrete asphalt, brick pavers, stamped concrete, or paving block that is constructed in accordance with the city's engineering standards of land development code. Minor tweaks to the definition are to clarify what a paved surface is and adding paver blocks as a paved surface, and then clarifying again the difference between secondary driveway entrances and they must be paved. And then we have primary and secondary driveways as defined in Section 153.1 may be constructed using pervious or impervious surface materials when designed as a clearly delineated and properly graded natural surface covered with rolled stone or loose gravel. All such materials must be fully contained by edging borders or other acceptable methods to prevent erosion and maintain the defined limits of the driveway. And the intent of this is so you have a contained area of rock that's not gonna wash out and not to be parking on the grass.
Secondary driveways may consist of unimproved surfaces, such as sod, and may be used solely as access ways to the side or rear of the property. These areas are not permitted for parking, and no self propelled motor vehicle may stop or park on unimproved grass areas located within the front yard. Currently, you're able to park your, say, RV or boats on the side and rear, and this is clarifying that. Here we did cleanup, removing the word circular and spelling out primary and secondary portions, but mostly this slide will depict that we set minimum separation distances between maintain the integrity of the intent of a circular driveway and keep more pervious area and landscaped areas with these setback requirements. The only change here is we removed wood as a type of driveway.
And the planning and zoning department staff finds the petition consistent with the intent and direction of the city's comprehensive plan and therefore recommends approval. The board has the following options, to make a motion to recommend approval to the city council, make a motion to recommend denial, and make a motion to table. And that concludes my presentation, and I'm here for any questions.
One second. Applicant and staff are the same? Correct. Okay. So we're going go ahead, Pete.
I'm wondering what about the swell in the piping under the swell?
The swell in the piping is located in the city's right of way. That is the area that is permitted through the Public Works Department, what we call the driveway entrance, that has to be paved of a hard surface, and it gets a permit and is reviewed for setbacks from culvert pipes and other setbacks that may be applicable.
So if you add the circular driveway, you have to put
There's no change to permitting. So if you add a driveway, you have to get the culvert crossing permitted through the public works department. And there's an application and a plot plan required.
Alright. Because I I mean, that that'll stop the
Understood.
So this is not having any impact on the stormwater flow, correct?
No. There's no proposed changes to driveway configurations in that respect.
Thank you. Any other questions for Good. Mr. Under Section 158
dash I'm sorry, period two twenty two, Driveway Services, commercial all driveways shall be paved service with concrete, asphalt, paver or comparable hard surfacing. What would be an example of a comparable hard surfacing? What's seems like it's
all open ended.
Well, there's a section also in this in the code that allows the engineering department to determine if a surface is considered impervious or pervious and up to their discretion. And, you know, there's always products coming out line out that are new and evolve such as TruGrid. So it leaves it a little open ended for the engineering department to review individually.
So that's sort of open for approval by by the Planning and Zoning Department?
It would not be reviewed by the Planning and Zoning Public
Works, sorry, sorry, Public Works.
Public Works solely. The city engineer has the ability to make decisions.
Thank you for the clarification.
Mr. Chair, would that be considered rock?
Shell rock could be if it's confined. However, I don't believe the Public Works Department allows it in the apron portion. It has to be paver blocks, concrete. I don't even think asphalt.
Clive. Good evening, Chair and Board. Clyde Coffey, Public Works Department. So to answer your question, shell rock would not be approved, would not be a material that's approved within the right of way. The hard materials we do is asphalt, concrete, paver bricks. Those are the typical materials that we approve.
Okay. Well, help me understand. This. The actual where the driveway attaches to the road, what are your limits of footage? Is it 32? Is that what I'm reading there?
Is maximum waste.
We have standards set for those depending on the type of driveway it is, but there is a maximum and a minimum. The minimum is 10 foot in width.
Right, maximum.
And the maximum, I believe, is 32 feet in width. And then there's also setbacks that public works implements from culverts.
Okay. In other words, if you have two driveways, a circular driveway, that can't go past 32 foot?
So the primary one would be 32 feet and the secondary would be 18.
So there's a maximum payment with a 50 feet.
Okay. That's what I'm asking.
Any other questions? I have two questions. First of all, I can see this is a little bit more restrictive than current, if I understand this correctly. And if that's the case, are people grandfathered in if they currently have one?
Yes. It's more restrictive in the respect of required landscaping and yes they would be grandfathered in if they have an existing driveway that exists today. It is allowed to be at the width that it is and and also the location
Okay.
Which would not be in the easements. The easements are already rolled to not be paved in today. So so
yeah. Cool. I got one more question. I think I understand part of this, but I want to make sure I fully understand. What is the benefit to renaming it from circular driveway to primary and secondary?
Enforcement for city staff. It makes it easier for city staff to refer to the legs individually.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you.
Any other questions? Only other thing I'll point out, Bethany, in code you do have exhibits that can show the public exactly what the new code is referencing. Correct?
Yes. In the exhibits, there are four, and each of them are a guideline when you apply for the separate type of permit for your type of driveway, whether it be a one single driveway, whether it be a T turnaround driveway, what was formerly a circular driveway, and a corner lot driveway. And it spells out where you have to have your landscape areas, and the separation between the legs of the driveways, and gives you a visual guideline with dimensions.
Great. Any other questions? Seeing none, thank you. Any members of the public wish to speak on this item? Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing and I'll call for a motion. Any discussion?
I'll make a motion to approve P26Dash020 City Of Port St. Lucie.
I second. We have
a motion to second. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Moving forward to 7B. And we'll open a public hearing. And we have a staff. Welcome back, Bethany.
Thank you. Bethany Gross with the Planning Department. The application before you is a comprehensive plan map amendment, a small scale, for Verano South, POD H. This is a request for a small scale land use map amendment to change the future land use designation from residential golf course to commercial general for 19.7 acres in the Verano Pod H development. The applicant is Kotler and Herring with the property owner being PSL Land Investments LLC, and the properties are generally located Southeast of Glades Cutoff Road, East Of Rangeline Road, and North of Crosstown Parkway.
The areas outlined in yellow are the subject of this request. The western portion is currently part of a larger parcel that will be plotted and dedicated to the city. So we're looking at just 10 acres of that site. And then over to the east side, you have a track that was platted into five commercial lots recently. And in the middle is the school site.
The land use is residential golf course currently surrounded by the Verano Golf Course community. And the proposed land use designation is general commercial CG. The PGA Village Verano DRI originally approved by City Council in 2003 established the Verano DRI in designated areas for RGC land use. Along with the section of commercial general land use, the DRI has since been amended multiple times, serving as the current regulating document. We have Site 1, which is approximately 9.7 acres and comprised of five parcels.
And then Site 2 is 10 acres located on the West side. The purpose of this request is to allow more intensive commercial uses than allowed under the RGC land use, consistent with the CG designation. Because CG zoning permits uses of greater intensity with those rather than the RGC designation, CG zoning is not compatible with the existing RGC land use classification, and that is the need for this amendment. Goal point 1.1 furthers and supports this comp plan change of the future land use element, which states that the city shall provide an appropriate mix of land uses to meet the needs of the current and future residents in a manner with developed concurrent with needed facilities and services. And also policy one point one point seven one of the future land use element, which states that the city shall review future land use map amendments based on the amount of land required to accommodate the anticipated growth and character of undeveloped land, compatibility with abutting and nearby uses and availability of water supply, public facilities and services, the need for job creation, capital investment and economic development to satisfy a deficiency of mix of uses on the land use map.
And policy 1.7.3, to encourage commercial and mixed uses nodes at or near arterial intersections and utilize urban design standards and techniques to beautify and enhance community appearance along major corridors. When reviewing a comprehensive plan map amendment, the site must be evaluated on the maximum that could be constructed within that land use change, and we must determine that adequate facilities exist. Based off of the land use map amendment, there's not expected to be an increase or decrease in demand of potable or wastewater services because the most intense uses are similar. And therefore, when you look at the most intense use allowed under both the land uses, the CRGC and CG, it is shopping center, therefore, is not anticipated to be a net change in traffic. The area is located in Flood Zone X, which is an area of minimal flood risk, and also in the Verano documents, adequate upland habitat has been preserved previously.
Therefore, 11.4 acres of surplus upland habitat and also the 22.86 acres was dated for conservation purposes meeting the preserve requirements of the DRI. When reviewing the traffic analysis, if we're looking at the average there is one slight change when you're looking at the RGC versus the CG. CG allows only a 40% coverage by buildings, while RGC allows for a 50%. So when you're looking at it in that regard, the traffic would be reduced three hundred and seventy eight PM peak hour trips a day because there is actually less lot coverage under CG than RGC. And with that staff's recommendation, we find the petitions consistent with the intent and direction of the city's comprehensive plan and recommend approval.
The board has the following options to recommend approval to the city council, motion to recommend approval to the City Council with conditions, motion to recommend denial to the City Council, or if you need further timetable the item to a future meeting. That concludes my presentation, and the applicant is here to answer any additional questions you may have.
Okay. Before we go to the applicant, any questions for staff yet?
I'd like to see the overhead shot on that, please.
Yes. Let's see here. Here's an aerial of the site Okay. The sites. They were originally one parcel and recently split to six.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Pete? Mr. Chair. Bethany, there was one statement in there that mentioned that Verano exceeded their requirement for preservation. Is that correct?
They did exceed their requirement for the preservation of which the lands are put under conservation, which every development is required to put aside 25%.
Okay. So they actually have conserved more than that. Correct? Just Let want
me just
go back and check the numbers before I speak.
So it says
11.4 acres of surplus, yes.
Okay, great. Thank you.
Thank
Exceeding what they're expected to do?
Yes.
Okay. Any other questions? Okay. Thank you, Bethany. The applicant is here.
Good evening, Board. For the record, Pete Hoffweins with Cutler and Hearing, Land Planner for the project. Nice to be in front of you all again. This is for the Verano South Pod H Small Scale Future Land Use Amendment. I'll try not to be duplicative. Bethany always does a very thorough job. Again, the project team here were the land planners, Sean McKenzie, the traffic engineer, and PSL Land Investments, the owner. Bethany laid out what we're here for tonight. Essentially, have two sites, a 10 acre and a 9.7 acre site at our major intersections. These sites were always sort of contemplated when they put the DRI together for commercial uses.
And everything we're asking for tonight is sort of to bring the uses that were permitted and evaluated under the DRI under an alignment with a land use category and then subsequent PUD amendments for their commercial general uses in the zoning code. A history, if anybody's interested, I can always follow-up with questions. Here it just puts us in a little bit of context. You can see the pod H outlined in yellow are two sites for commercial there in red. Again, the first site on Crosstown and North South A, Sundance Boulevard as it's called now, and then the second site on Crosstown and Rangeline.
Again, this just shows the land use change in the context of the surrounding area. Same with the zoning. And I've seen this slide before. I did a slight update based on some discussion we had at the City Council meeting as it related to Pond G, which was a similar amendment. So you can see Verano's frontage here just over three and a half miles, and these are the these are the only three commercial sites we're going to have.
The first one over there all the way to the east is the one in Pod G, and then you can see the two there and the red stars for Pod H. The discussion that came up is we won't be adding and we can't add any more additional access from Crosstown. So limited access facility, the ones that are designated for the roadway now are the ones that are going to be there in perpetuity. Well, not in perpetuity, anything could change, but those are what staff adheres to based on the policy direction from the council. This was pointed out also last time, and I think Bethany picked a little bit of this up in her presentation.
This is from our DRI phasing schedule, and this shows what we are approved for maximum development potential. You can see if you add up those numbers, it comes to just over 900,000 square feet of retail service and office. What's important here is when I discussed bringing this into alignment with commercial uses is these were all evaluated and measured and anticipated to be under the shopping center classification from the Institute of Traffic Engineers. And so then that segues into what we have identified in the RGC land use. And you can see it allows for hotel, retail, conference center, recreation and maintenance facilities.
And then it's a little bit more limited than what was permitted under the shopping center IT. You can see it says I gotta get some glasses. I'm
getting older.
Community center, regional center, super shopping center, along with the outparcels, inline retail uses that you would commonly see at these sort of commercial sites. Again, we've gone through the consistency with staff and the comprehensive plan are in agreement. And I'm here to answer any questions. I have the pleasure of the Board.
Thank you. Any questions
of the applicant?
Just one thing I'm going to point back out. You said there's not going to be any access to these centers from Crosstown, they'll be from the side streets, correct?
Well, are designated access points along Crosstown and so
That are already there.
That are already there. So we're not adding anything. Those remain. There's one for Pod G, one for each of the pods and commercial sites in HCS.
Okay. Thank
you. Any other questions? Thank you. Any other questions for staff? Okay. This is a public hearing. Anyone from the public wishing to speak on the item? Seeing none, close the public hearing. Any final comments? And we'll ask for a motion to discussion.
Everybody all at
once. I'll I'll move to approve p two six dash o two eight Verano South pod h small scale comprehensive plan amendment.
Motion, we need a second.
I'll second.
Motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Good luck. Thank you. Okay. Now we're moving on to the quasi judicial portion. Items 8A through 8E, I believe, are quasi judicial in nature. Our attorney will outline the procedures and provide for the swearing in. If anybody wants to speak on this item, you will have three minutes to speak on the item. If you do, please fill out one of the comment cards. Going to go by the comment cards that I received first. And Mr. Attorney, would you please outline the procedures.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good evening, everyone. We're here tonight for quasi judicial hearings. At a quasi judicial hearing, the Board acting like a judge applies existing policy and law to a set of facts to determine an outcome.
Notably, in quasi judicial hearings, the question is whether the application at issue complies with existing requirements, not whether the Board likes the project proposed in an application. Members of the Board must base their decision on competent substantial evidence presented at the hearing. Competent substantial evidence should be based in fact, be reliable and tend to prove a point such that a reasonable mind would accept it as sufficient to support the conclusion reached. Competent substantial evidence should not be speculative, hypothetical or conjecture. Instead, it must be relevant, material and within the purview of knowledge of the witness offering the testimony.
The Board is to consider the criteria set forth in the applicable code section and determine if an application meets those criteria. Accordingly, anyone who wishes to speak before the board or introduce evidence on a quasi judicial item should focus their testimony and evidence on how the proposal either meets or fails to meet the criteria of the code, rather than on general support or opposition. Section 32.8 of the city code establishes procedures for quasi judicial hearings within the city of Port St. Lucie. In each hearing, the Board must disclose any ex parte communications before final action on the matter and make written communications a part of the record before final action on the item.
For each item, first, city staff and the applicant will be able to make presentations. Next, the public may present testimony and evidence in support or opposition to the application. Then rebuttal and closing statements may be allowed, followed by deliberations and decision by the Board. Once a motion has been made by a member of the Board, the floor is closed to comments by the public. The board members may ask questions throughout the hearing, but no one has a right to address the board during deliberations. At this time, I'll ask the deputy clerk to swear in all persons wishing to offer testimony.
If you wish to speak on any of the items 8A through 8E, rise and be sworn in. Madam clerk.
Okay. If everyone can please raise your right hands. Do you swear or affirm that the statements made today will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes. Thank you.
Okay. Also, mister attorney, before we move forward, for any comments that we received via email, are also a matter of the record, correct?
Yes,
Mr. Chair. Those need to be made part of the record.
Okay. So anyone who is not here tonight and if we received one of your emails or online, we have read them as well, and they are part of the public record. Thank you. Okay. So we're gonna move on to item 8A. Before we do, any ex parte communications? None. None. None.
I've had none.
None. None. None. Okay. I'm going open the public hearing and have the planner. Hello again.
Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the board, Bethany Grubbs. For the record, I have been sworn in and the official file has been provided to the clerk at least five days prior to this meeting. The application before you is a landscape modification for a project known as Lotus at Tradition. The application is to request and provide an enhanced landscaping via a berm in lieu of the required six foot architectural buffer wall on the eastern property line per section 154.12 of the code of ordinances.
The applicant is Lucido and Associates who represents the property owner, Madamey Palm Beach, and the property is located North of Southwest Tradition Parkway, South of Southwest Westcliff Lane, and East of the future Sundance Vista Boulevard. Immediately abutting the property is a development, a single family home development known as Brindley, and there a wall is required in the landscape buffer strip where multifamily development, which is lotus at tradition, abuts the property to the side, which is designated with PUD, planned unit development zoning, or single family uses per section 154.03 C five of the landscape code. Brinley is zoned PUD and is single family uses. The applicant is wishing to provide enhanced landscaping in lieu of the wall for the five fifty seven unit multifamily distributed across 29 buildings ranging in height from four stories to two stories. One thoughtful design consideration is the area on that property line, a budding single family, or the two story units, the lower units.
The proposed development of Butts, Brinley to the side. Typical code requires a 20 foot landscape buffer with a six foot architectural masonry wall. The applicant is proposing in lieu of such a 60 foot wide landscape buffer with a seven foot tall berm with plantings on top for the approximate 1,700 foot Eastern parcel property line adjacent to Brinley. One exhibit provided last week in your agenda package, which is not included in the presentation, is exhibit number six, the landscape berm planting schedule. And it will show that the landscaping atop the berm are oaks planted one every 30 linear feet with Ligustrum planted two foot on center across the entire length of the berm.
The subject property is located in the area outlined in gray, outlined in yellow in this slide, and you can see well, doesn't show developed to the, You do have Brindley, which is developed. And this is the subject request is to run the berm along this 1,700 foot length of property line on the side.
And what you're saying to the east is actually developed and there are homes?
There are homes. There's approximately 10 residential lots that abut this property, and they're open space tracked.
Thank you.
There you can see the homes that abut the property with our aerial map our our zoning map here. The area lined in red is where the berm would be placed in lieu of the six foot architectural wall. This is a cross section showing the 60 foot berm at a three to one slope with plantings on top. And again, exhibit six goes into more detail with the count quantity of the plantings on top.
But even though we don't have that, it meets code. Correct?
It it does meet code. However, they are keeping their perimeter landscaping that is code required. So this is essentially is above code. Great. It's a second landscape buffer above code with the extra plantings.
The board made there's a 10 foot strip that runs along the parking lot in the two story buildings that's planted at code, and then this is an additional planting on top of the entire buffer. If the board finds that the application is consistent with the criteria as listed in section 154.12 b of the city code, then the board may motion to approve, motion to approve with conditions, or motion to deny, or motion to table to or continue to a hearing at a further date. If the board recommends approval, staff does recommend the following because this is a phased project, a two phased project prior to the issuance of the first building permit for phase one. The berm located within phase one shall be installed, it with associated landscaping and inspected by the planning and zoning department. Prior to the issuance of the first building permit for phase two, the corresponding segment of the berm shall be installed, plan it with associated landscaping and inspected by the planning and zoning department.
And that concludes my presentation. The applicant is available to answer any questions.
Bethany, just explain what you're asking that to be a condition of approval if we decide to approve?
Yes. Because it's a we don't know when phase two is going to be constructed, the landscaping may die.
So what you're asking, if we do make a motion to approve, this condition will be part of that motion, correct?
Yes. Thank you.
I have a question. I'm concerned the volume of building going on in this town, we have the infrastructure to handle it. Do we?
This is a DRI, the entitlements
scope of the hearing.
Yeah, Pete, this is just to cover the landscape issue. Building part is That the
will be a different application I'll later
ask that question then.
It's a great question but the scope of this is just a landscape modification waiver.
Right. Okay.
Any other questions for the planner? Joe? Sure.
Have one question. Yeah. Can you go back to that drawing of the berm?
Yeah, right there. So
the wall would be six feet high, but the top of the berm where the bottom of that that center oak tree is, that's seven feet high?
The oak tree should be planted at seven foot high to start. Yes.
The base of the tree is
at seven foot.
Gotcha. Okay. Thank you.
So in fact, the berm is higher than the wall?
Yes. Well, the berm is already higher at seven foot. Right. Mhmm.
Any other questions for us, planner? Just a couple other points, Bethany. There there are buffer zones between the the berm and the develop development to the east. Correct?
That's correct. Here along the parking areas for the two story townhomes, there's already a landscape strip there
Mhmm.
Which is the code required. This is adding a set of a wall within it. This is adding the berm and additional landscaping. And then you have an open space area for the Brindley subdivision. So you have this, a berm, open space, and then Brindley, and their required landscape buffer.
Okay. Thank you. Alright. You said the applicant is here? Yes. All right. Welcome back, Mr. Garrett.
Good evening, Chair, Planning and Zoning Board members, Ms. Hogarty. Steve Garrett with Lucidar and Associates representing the applicant, and I have been sworn in. Thank you, Mr. Grubbs, for a great presentation. Just a couple of points and not to duplicate anything that has already been provided. So at this time I'm going to sit down and just say, have any questions now? Just a couple points. Matamy is currently the property owner for both pieces, the Eastern Brindley subdivision, which is a single family residential subdivision that has been platted and is actively under construction currently. No residences no residents actually exist within it at this point in time or adjacent to the berm.
Madamey is also the property owner for the Lotus piece, the Western piece, which this landscape modification is for, And that will be a land sale from them to Lotus. We are the planners for both projects. Matamy has consistently planned their residential communities when they do abut something that is nonresidential. Case in point, the Tallaro neighborhood just south of The Shops at the Heart, we used a similar technique with landscape berm and landscaping adjacent to commercial. The commercial property did not have to put the commercial wall in.
So same concept here. A couple of things to point out, and I think you touched on it relative to the height of the berm. The wall is six foot as required. We're putting in a landscape berm of seven feet minimum height. It ranges in width from 60 to 70 feet across that entire shared boundary. And at the seven foot height, that's where the landscape, which would naturally occur at a zero foot, or the wall starting elevation begins. So we already gained a height plus the landscape along that. We have no objection to the condition as a progress status. The Brimley community and berm is actively under construction now. We anticipate the berm and the landscaping to be in place by July 1.
So well in advance of the multifamily or this project going under construction. And that was deliberate to get the added woe in time of the material and make sure that it's healthy and doing well prior to any construction on this site. Happy to answer any questions.
Any questions from the members of the board? Have a question. Rose?
Who maintains and is going to take care of the landscaping that it stays at that height that you're proposing?
Well, so, as noted, there's kind of two perimeter landscape requirements. On this site, the perimeter landscape of one tree every 30 feet and the hedge on the Lotus site will be maintained by Lotus. That's in that 10 foot landscape strip on this property. And then on the Brindley berm, that will be Matamie Homes in the Brindley subdivision, maintaining that material.
Anything else? Steve,
I think the berm with the landscaping looks a lot nicer than a wall. I'm just curious the wall would potentially cost more if you did that. I mean is this not only nicer, taller, more nature rather than a concrete wall? I'm just curious if it helps to save some dollars too.
Yes. It's not necessarily a cost savings. I mean, there are there's probably a lot of comparables between the two. I don't think it was part of the I think it's on the revised exhibit elevation. Mattamy is also putting in a fence on top of the berm as well, more so from a security property owner benefit. This just makes it's just good planning is how we approach it.
We have
clients that feel the same, right? The berm with landscape does a lot more to insulate the single family neighborhood from adjacent uses. We do it adjacent to the roadways as well on Westcliff and on Tradition Parkway.
Great. Thank you.
You're welcome. Eric,
just some clarity on your last comment. You said there will be a fence on top of the berm as well? Correct. How tall would that fence be?
It's six foot.
Thank you.
Sure, have a question.
Yes, go ahead, Joe.
You had mentioned that there were two different sections of this. One section will be maintained by Lotus, other section by Matamy. When that area, the second area is built out and Mattamy is out of there, will that then fall to the HOA?
Yes, it would. Okay.
All right.
Thank you.
Any other questions from members of the Board? Steve, just a couple of quick points. The code is using the wall is there obviously, I know for a reason, to protect the residents now and in the future. So just to point out, it seems like you're exceeding with the seven foot berm and the landscaping, which I think also in addition to the buffer zones you have, I think kind of complements and makes the area look a little better.
Yes, absolutely. Nothing here, either buffer width or height of the buffer itself is minimum. Walls are a good thing. If space is limited and you hit the minimum 10 foot or 20 foot buffer, you put a wall in, that's perfectly acceptable and meets code. In this case, it was more intent to increase the buffer width, create something a little bit better and stronger to insulate the single family neighborhood.
And those current buffer zones, so to speak, the 70 foot and the 60 foot, you don't intend to put anything on there, correct?
No. The berm occupies the entirety of that width.
Okay. And again, lastly, just to reiterate, you are okay with the condition should we move forward with approval?
Correct. The condition is to have the berm and landscaping in place prior to the phase one project of this, the LOTUS multifamily, and then by phase two. The reality is the entirety of that bermann landscape will be in place by July 1 this year, so in a few months. And so it's easily met. So no issues with it. Thank you.
Great. Thank you. Any other questions? Alright, seeing none. This is a public hearing. Any members of the public wish to speak on this item? Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing. And we will entertain a motion and discussion.
I'll make a motion to approve Lotus of Tradition Landscape Modification project number P25-seventy.
With the staff conditions.
With conditions, correct.
Second.
Motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Good luck with that. Mr. Garrett. Okay. Eight b. Before we move forward, any members of the board have any ex parte communication? Left or right, Pete? No. No. No. No. No. No.
No. No. Okay.
We'll open the public hearing, and we have the planner. Staff presentation.
Good evening, chair, planning, zoning board members. My name is Cody Sisk, and I've been sworn in. The official file has been submitted at least five days before today's hearing. Madam Clerk, please enter that into the record. Today's application is a special exception used for Raw Athletics.
The owner the owner of the site is Peb PSL LLC and Banyan PSL LLC. The applicant is with Hayley Ward. Brad Curry is here for this. The location is at the Northwest Corner Of Northwest Enterprise Drive, and the request is for a special exception used to allow an enclosed assembly area over 3,000 square foot without an alcohol beverage license within the Warehouse Industrial Zoning District. This is an aerial, and it's located within that yellow boundary.
To the North is single family residential. To the South is warehouse. To the East is is vacant, and to the West is vacant. Then after that's I 95. The future land use to the North is open space conservation as well as to the West. The future land use for the South and the East are both light industrial, open space, recreational, and institutional. The zoning district to the North is single family residential. To the South is warehouse industrial. To the East is industrial, and to the West is general use, and then I 95 as well. This is a proposed layout for the uses within the building.
There are no changes to the exterior of the building, no changes to the site, no changes for access. Everything is just completely internal. The building has been existing. It's in pink is the area for the enclosed assembly area or the recreation. These are the areas of evaluation for the criteria of special exception uses. The current proposed use is meeting all of the criteria part of section 158.26 letters a through j. Again, there's no changes to the outside of the site. All the existing landscaping that's on-site will stay. Access will stay. Parking is existing will stay.
This is just an interior change. As a board, you have the following options. You may make a motion to recommend denial. You may make a motion to recommend tabling. You also may make a motion to recommend approval.
And the Planning and Zoning Department is recommending if there is a recommendation for approval to add this condition. And the condition reads, this special exception you shall be granted exclusively to the owners, the current owners of the property, Peb PSL LLC and Banyan PSL LLC collectively and shall be valid solely as it relates to the current tenant of the property, Ross Sports Supplement Company LLC and its subtenant, Ross Athletic Club LLC. The special exception you shall terminate automatically upon cessation of the approved business operation, namely use of the enclosed assembly space without an alcoholic beverage license for Raw Athletic Fitness Club. Any renting or subletting of the property aside from the current tenancy arrangements described above, change in tenant, change in ownership of the property or any of the above business entities or discontinuation of the approved use shall render this special exception null and void. And that concludes my presentation.
I'm here to answer any questions.
Any members of the board have a question for Cody? Have a question.
Cody, so can you explain, so it says request for special exception used to allow and close assembly area over 3,000 square feet without an alcohol beverage license for on premises consumption of alcohol beverages. So can what does that actually mean?
So our code separates the enclosed assembly for with alcohol and without alcohol.
Okay.
So we did it with without alcohol as the use. It used to be all in one enclosed Now assembly it's split up.
Got it. So we had to do
it without the alcohol beverage license.
Got it. Okay. Thank you.
Any other questions? All right. Thanks, Cody. The applicant is here. Yep.
Good evening. For the record, Brad Curry with Hayley Ward. Tonight, I'm representing the tenant of a building located out in St. Lucie West. Staff did an excellent job presenting the project, and I've really enjoyed working with them on this. This is a little bit of a unique facility. I think many of you are familiar with the building. And we knew that when T. C. Palm was moving out of it, I think we were all a little worried about what was going to happen to that significant building along I-ninety 5. And Raw has stepped in and really has a state of the art facility there. Don't know how many of you all have gone into that facility. They have a pretty substantial workout gym, 14,000 square feet. I'm a little bit of a gym buff myself when I go in there. I'm like, man, I should come over here.
They've got everything from gym related. There's the recovery rooms, that sort of thing. And in addition to that, they also store have their supplement part, they have the nutritional supplements, where they have a warehouse for them. So they bring in redistribution. And then they actually have a small little manufacturing space over there where they make T shirts. So it's pretty exciting to have a facility like that here in Port St. Lucie. So the request this before you deny is just for the special exception for the gym portion of this. The condition that Cody read out, and it was pretty specific because this is a pretty interesting use. And I think staff as a whole is wanting to make sure that it stays the way it is.
And if there are some changes, they want to be able to get back in there and make sure that whatever gets in whatever use replaces it is consistent and compatible with what's around there. So members of the representatives from the facility from Rawl are here tonight if you have any questions of them. And I'll be happy to answer any questions as well.
Thank you. Thank you, Brad. Pete's our expert on bodybuilding here. Any questions?
I'm the pickleball guy.
Brad, just one quick question. But any questions from
members
of I just want to ask quickly, just curious, are the supplements manufactured there or just distribute? They're
just they're brought in and then redistributed. There's a storage, a warehouse area. That's the majority of the building is warehouse
It for the is an impressive facility there.
Any other questions, members? Have
a question. I just can't so what's the reason for the special exception used to enclosed assembly? It's already a gym.
It is a proposed gym.
I see. So it's not compliant. We're moving into compliance. Is that correct?
It is a proposed JEM. Yes, sir.
Okay. Very good. Thank you.
Thank you.
Any other questions, members of the Board?
Yeah, I have one.
What's the
hours of operation of this JEM?
I do not know that right off the top of my head. Margaret from the facility is here. I know that I've been there early in the morning, say around seven or eight, and then they go until seven or eight at night. I'm not sure exactly what time they open.
Margaret, you can answer that. Before you answer that, Margaret, have you been sworn in for the record?
Yes, I was.
Thank
you. 5AM to 11PM every day except for holidays. Special hours for that.
All right. And since you're there, Margaret, you can probably answer this. You're okay with the if we move forward with approval, you're okay with the conditions?
Yes.
Okay. Any other members of the Board? Okay. Seeing none, thank you. This is a public hearing. Any members of the public who should speak on this item? Okay. Seeing none, close the public hearing. And I will call for a motion to discussion. And if you do make a motion, please remember with the conditions.
I just wonder how does this maybe this is the real time for the conversation, but how does this come into being where this wasn't this is an assembly. I mean, obviously, people are assembling already, but we're just approving this now.
Jody?
So the the gym is existing today, but it has not been approved. So this is what this is here for for the enclosed assembly special exception use to make a motion to the city council.
To bring it into compliance?
Correct. To make sure that everything's valid. Okay.
To bring
things up.
Yeah. To true up.
They're they're bring it in compliance, candidly. Yeah. So that's that's the issue here. But they're they're not Cody? They're not doing anything that is adversely affecting the area or community, are they?
No. They're simply going in, and everything on-site is meeting the way it is.
So nothing about operations currently are gonna change. This is just a formality, I assume. Correct.
Yep. K. Yep. Any members of the board wish to
I'll make a motion. You make a motion. Approve SLW Industrial Park raw athletic special exception use project p two five dash two zero five with conditions suggested by the planning and zoning department.
I'll second it. Okay. We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Good luck. Okay. Moving on to eight c before we move forward. Eight c. Any members of the board have any ex parte communications? None. No. No. None.
concerned citizen reached out to me about this project, and I had a conversation with her. And I'll submit it's via text message. So I'll submit to the planning and zoning department or legal, whoever it is I need to.
It it needs to be part of the record before final action is taken on the item. So it would need to be provided to the clerk as
The the text messages need to be provided?
In accordance in accord oh.
I thought ex parte just had to tell them what the ex parte was.
A verbal communication needs to disclose the identity of the person and the topic of the conversation, the substance of the communication. Written communications need to be provided themselves in accordance with section 32.8 e of Port St. Lucie Code of Ordinances.
Do I need to email screenshots of the text messages? Would that be sufficient?
That would be sufficient.
And who should he send it to? Pardon? Where should they be sent? To the clerk?
Madam clerk, would you be able to tell them where to send them? Because you're controlling directly. You can
give them your email address
And and we can move
before I need to can get this
over to
you in a matter of a couple minutes. And anything we can't take any action until you do that. But we can listen.
Okay.
Good evening. And Bridget Keene with the Planning and Zoning Department.
I'm sorry.
Can we
we have not talked about whether or not we had any discussions. Oh,
I'm sorry.
Yeah. I
have not.
I did not either.
I apologize. Thank you.
Oh, that's okay. And once again
Thank you. Any expertise on the end? Yes. All right. Thank you.
Okay. Once again, Bridget Keene with the Planning and Zoning Department. I have been sworn in. The official file was sent to the city clerk's office within five days of this meeting, and I am requesting that it be entered into the record. This application is Destination at Tradition. It's an MPUD amendment. It's amendment number one. The applicants are the Port St. Lucie Governmental Finance Corporation and Matavy Palm Beach LLC. Brad Curry with the Haley Board is the applicant, and the location is generally located.
It's West Of New Road that's going in in tradition. It's Destination Way. It's South Of Destination. It's East Of Marshall Parkway, and it's on the East Side Of Village Parkway. And it is a request to amend the MPUD. And here is the location. North
Of Marshall.
It's North Of Marshall, South Of Destination. Destination isn't constructed yet. It's the one that's shown in pink here. Okay. Again, this is the property that's an aerial. And then this is the future land use map. It is NCD, and again the zoning is MPUD. And then just give you a little background, this destination at tradition MPUD, it was approved in 2024. It's approximately two seventeen acres in size. It is approved for industrial use, office use, commercial use, as well as hotel and multifamily development.
The MPUD is divided into two development areas with approximately 31 acres designated as a business park, and then 80 acres are designated as mixed commercial. And this application is the first amendment and it will add two new uses to the mixed commercial area. One use is a post acute medical facility and the other is a veterinary hospital or clinic. It also adds the parking requirements for the post acute medical facility and the veterinary hospital. It updates the amount of non residential development in the MPUD by adding 54 hospital beds for the post acute care facility and it adds an additional 30,000 square feet of office use to accommodate the veterinary hospital.
The amendment also revises the minimum lot size and minimum width for parcels within the business park area, and it also updates the legal description as well as some other minor changes. The property was platted after the original MPUD was approved. And the MPUD does identify what a post acute medical facility is. It's identified as a physical hospital or health care center that provides rehabilitative and or specialized healthcare services to patients recovering from a serious illness, injury, surgery, complex medical condition, or acute care hospital say. Now we do have a site plan that's already been submitted for a post acute medical facility, and it's on 7.8 acres of property that is located at the Northwest corner of the intersection of Southwest Village and Destination Way.
And that is the location for the future project that they're calling Catalyst. And the subject property, it is located within the Southern Grove DRI, and is within a designated regional business center subdist district as depicted on map H, master plan for the Southern Grove DRI, and figure one dash four of the future land use element. Policy 1.228 identifies the requirements for a regional business center, and it does list all the uses, and one of those uses is medical uses as well as office uses. The proposed amendment adds additional medical and office facilities to the destination way of tradition MPUD for the post acute care facility and veterinary clinic, and these changes are consistent, as I mentioned, with the Business Regional Business Center subdistrict, and these uses are designed to meet the needs of the larger area. Site Plan Review Committee did recommend approval of the proposed MPUD amendment.
Planning and zoning department staff does find the request to be consistent with the direction, intent of the city's future land use map and policies in the comprehensive plan. We do recommend approval. And as mentioned, I don't have the slide, but you do have the option to recommend approval, recommend approval with conditions, recommend a denial, and then if you need more information, recommend a table. Happy to answer any questions. That completes my presentation. And the applicant is here to answer any questions.
Any members of the board have any questions for staff? See no applicant. Welcome back, Brad.
I haven't seen you guys in a while. It seems like we've got a lot on the agenda tonight. Good evening for the record. Brad Curry with Hayley Ward. Bridget did an excellent job presenting the project. This is a change in a couple of different a couple of new uses added to the MPD overall. We specifically represent the catalyst company that is proposed to do the acute care facility. I wanted to come up with a fancy definition of what that was, but I think Bridget did a pretty good job. Sort of like a hospital, except it's more of a recovery for people that are have had some sort of illness or surgery at the hospital. Something different. There's not any of those types of facilities around here that I'm aware of. And pretty excited about it coming to tradition. I'd be happy to answer any questions that you have.
All right. Thank you. Any questions, members of the Board? Okay. Seeing none. Thank you, All right. This is the public hearing. Members of the public wish to speak on this item? Seeing none, we'll close the public hearing and ask for a motion and discussion.
That was 8c?
We are an 8C, correct.
I make a motion that we pass P26005 Destination of Traditional Master Plan Unit.
Yeah, I'll second it.
We have a motion and a second. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Good luck. We are on to 8D. Before we move on to 8D, we do have several comment cards on this item. If you wish to speak on the item, please fill out a comment card and I will call you to speak on the item as I have received them. You will have three minutes to speak and please remember to state your name and that you've been sworn in for the record. Before we do that, 8D, do we have any ex parte communication?
None. None.
None. None. None. None. None. Okay. We'll open the public hearing and ask for the presentation. Welcome back.
Good evening again. Bridget Keene with the Planning and Zoning Department. I have been sworn in. The official file was sent to the clerk's office within five days, and I am requesting it be entered into the record. This application is an amendment to the MPUD for tradition. Actually, you don't need to know the project number. Already have that. The owner of this property is Winding River Crosstown, LLC. Brad Curry with Haley Ward is the applicant. And the subject property, or the property that's the subject of this application, is approximately 9.48 acres that's located at the southwest corner of the intersection of Crosstown Parkway and Southwest Fair Green Drive.
And this amendment only amends that property. It does not do any other changes to the tradition MPUD. This is a subject property, and as you can see, it's off of West Of Interstate 95 in the tradition DRI right at Crosstown and Fair Green. Land use is NCD, new community development, and the zoning is MPUD, for the tradition MPUD. And to the north of this property is the convenience store, gas station, and self storage.
That's the Circle K that's on the East Side of Fair Green. And then to the South, it's the or kind of Southwest is the Heritage Oaks residential community. To the East is a single family residential community that's in regular Port St. Lucie. It's not in the tradition DRI.
And then to the West, kind of Northwest is the Verano, and it's two open space tracks, and then there's residential development in Verano. Now just for some background, the tradition MPUD, it's approximately 3,038 acres, and as I mentioned, it's located south across Towne Parkway, West Of 95, and then it's north and south of Tradition Parkway. The development plan does divide the project into major sub areas. So there's an area designated for residential, there's an area designated for mixed use, an area designated for village center, and then an area designated for town center. And each of these sub areas are divided into parcels for planning purposes, and each parcel is then designated for a certain use or a combination of uses.
I just want to give some background. The proposed property amendment pertains to 9.4 acres. It's of undeveloped land, and it's located at the Southwest corner, as I mentioned, of Crosstown Parkway and Southwest Fair Green Drive. It is legally described as a portion of Open Space Track 21 tradition plat number 18. Now it's important to just point out that on the plat Open Space Track 21 is the dedication reads that the Open Space Track is reserved for homes by Kennedy to LTD or second LTD that was the original developer of the Heritage Oaks, its successor and assigns and it is dedicated for open space or utility use or pedestrian access purposes and or future land use development.
So while it does say it's an open space tract, the dedication does say that it can be used for future land development.
And before you want, does that mean they're entitled to build homes Yes,
yes, homes or development. Right. And it was, and I'll show you as I go through the, it was previously phase six of the, phase c of the Heritage Oaks At Tradition. A conceptual site plan for phase three was submitted, or for phase c in 2006 for approximately 106 townhome units. That project was never built, and the 9.4 acres, I guess due to nonpayment of taxes, it did a sheet to St. Lucie County, and then it became, it fell under the, or it is now under the ownership of Winding River Crosstown LLC.
And they hold those entitlements?
I don't know what entitlements they hold because that's between them and the master developer.
The applicant here is here.
The applicant can answer that question of the tradition DRI. But this shows you right here. Here it is. This is phase, this was supposed to be phase six, phase C, I keep saying that, phase C of Heritage Oaks. The rest of Heritage Oaks was constructed but not phase c.
So now as I mentioned, each of the parcel each of the areas in the tradition MPUD are designated for a an area is designated for a certain use. This property is located in the area designated for mixed use, and the mixed use designation, it does allow retail, it allows office, residential, restaurants, including a drive through, it allows car wash, service station, self storage, daycare center, medical use, banks, recreation facility, and civic and cultural uses. And each mixed use area has to contain per our comprehensive plan a minimum of three uses, and one of those uses has to be residential. So with this 9.4 acres, it is identified as being a portion of Parcel 10 within the tradition MPUD concept plan, And as I mentioned for planning purposes, they designated all the land in there with certain parcel numbers. And this is what I'm talking about here.
These are all the different areas. This area here is all the residential. And then when you get over here, the mixed use, the hatch is the mixed use area. As you can see, this property is a portion right now of Parcel 10. The town center is located where like the Publix and all that is located over here.
So this application will remove the 9.4 acres from Parcel 10 and reclassify the 9.4 acres as Parcel 11A, and it then will designate Parcel 11A under the broader mixed use designation for retail office use. And to accomplish this change, the application amends Exhibit five of the MPUD document, It amends the MPUD concept plan and the MPUD conceptual land use plan to add the 9.4 acres as parcel 11A and to then designate it as retailoffice use. And this is the concept plan, and this is the updated or proposed concept plan, and in this area right here we now have 11A. Oh sorry, messed up. We now have 11A, and that's this over here, and over in this section, it identifies it for retail office use.
The subject property is located within the tradition DRI and within a designated mixed use subdistrict and that is depicted on map eight which is the tradition master plan and figure one dash three of the future land use element. And as I mentioned per policy one point two point two seven of the comprehensive plan, the mixed use areas can include commercial office uses, hospital and medical uses, restaurants, theaters, hotels, institutional uses, as well as public facilities, light industrial and other uses that to serve the larger, the needs of the larger area. Now one thing about each mixed use area, it does have to contain a minimum of three use three uses, and one of those uses does have to be residential. A minimum 30% of the use, a minimum of 30% of the acreage has to be residential and up to a maximum of 70%. This application, okay, and then as I mentioned, these are staff findings.
The MPUD does provide for a variety of uses under the mixed use sub area, and as I mentioned, that you have to maintain between 3070% residential. Right now with that mixed use area, it's currently 47% residential and this will reduce it to 44.93%. So it's really not going to have an effect on that aspect of the MPUD. And then under our code policy one point point seven three of the comprehensive plan, it does state that the city should encourage commercial and mixed use nodes at or near arterial intersection and utilize urban design standards and techniques to beautify and enhance community appearance along major corridors. Now given the proximity of the subject property, the residential development to the south and east, We are recommending, as the planning and zoning department, that if this change to the MPUD is made, the condition of approval is we would request that they have an installation of an architectural wall and enhanced landscaping along the eastern and southern boundaries of the property, and that is to provide a buffer to the existing residential that's in the Heritage Oaks, and then that is also on the East side.
Site Plan Review Committee did recommend approval of the proposed amendment at the 02/25/2026 Site review committee meeting. The planning and zoning department does find the request to be consistent with the direction and intent of the land development regulations and our comprehensive plan. But we are recommending a condition, and that would be that future development of the property shall include the installation of an architectural wall and enhanced landscaping along the eastern and southern boundaries of the property if there's a proposal for the property to be developed in the future. Again, you do have the ability to recommend approval, approval with comments, to table, or if you need more information, or recommendation for denial. That ends my presentation, and happy to answer any questions.
Members of the Board, Eric?
I just need to disclose the ex parte communication I disclosed on the prior agenda item actually pertain to this agenda item, and I have emailed the screenshots to you. Okay.
Russ, is that adequate?
Yeah. So my ex parte communication was with Julian Armstrong Armstrong, a concerned citizen, who reached out to me in regards to this agenda item. Is that sufficient?
Yep. Thank you, Mr. Roccanis. Yes, sir.
Thank you. Okay. Any other questions for
staff? Mr. Chu, so
with that condition then, we would never see that applicant coming back requesting to not do a wall, right? Like we had earlier tonight.
We should ask the applicant to make sure the applicant is Right,
yeah, right.
But I'm just
That is the intent. The intent is that we recognize that there is residential and that the best thing would be if this is going to change from a residential use to a retail office that we require them to have sufficient buffering between the uses.
And since this is mixed use, this is actually required in order to meet the needs of mixed use, right, or the requirements
of Well, the mixed use allows them a variety of uses. So you can have residential, you can have other uses. It just happens that this particular property is part of a larger residential parcel. They're not connected, but they're identified for planning purposes as residential within a mixed use.
And as part of the comprehensive plan, the city has targets for percentages of non residential use, right? Commercial, industrial, retail, right?
Right, right. Have an understanding of how much commercial is in the city versus how much And
where are we in general with the comprehensive plan with having non residential?
What is it at here?
Like five.
Yeah, I mean primarily a residential city.
Right, just for the public, I want to know what the numbers are so
that we Only can
about 7% commercial right
Yeah, now, we haven't calculated it within the past couple of months. But the last time we looked at it, it was about 5% commercial and about one point something percent industrial. And our recent planning and infrastructure study report that we did, did indicate that to be revenue neutral, it would be ideal if the city was 80% residential versus commercial and industrial. As Ms. Keene states, we're primarily a residential community at this time.
So we're a big difference from 80%, right? So we're at 93% is what you said. Okay. Thank you. Eric?
Just for clarification, this property is privately owned currently.
And currently zoned for residential.
Right. It's currently in a mixed use area, but designated to be the residential component of that mixed use area, a portion of the residential component.
And there was something like, was it 300 townhomes that was planned for this?
106 was part of that phase.
Townhomes planned for this particular Yes.
But that Was the interview
I might have missed it. Was there any information on the influence or effect that this type of change will have on the traffic in that area?
Not at this time. We did not include a traffic analysis at this time. We will require the traffic analysis when they come in to develop. Develop the site.
So I guess we wouldn't want to speculate on what changing from a residential to a commercial zoning would do to the traffic in the area. Be more speculative than
Right. Would would wait once we know the exact use.
Sure. Two questions. With that last one, if the process is we approve it and then we do the traffic analysis, what happens if the traffic analysis comes back and it looks horrible? And it's going be way too Ultimately, much
I believe the city council would have discretion on that, correct?
Right. I mean, did not I mean, that's something the board believes we should be doing, I mean, can add that, you could table it, and we could provide you with the traffic analysis. But what we normally do with this change is only for 9.48 acres. We would then look with each improvement that comes in. So I mean we are working now with the tradition DRI.
I want to get ahead of myself, but it does include it's going to council April 13. That's the intent, and it does include requirements for improvements to that Fair Green Crosstown Parkway. So we are addressing that in the tradition DRI, and that would be of the master developer, and how the master developer then handles this entity within that project who wants to develop. That'll be between them who becomes responsible for that improvement. That improvement is identified in our tradition DRI.
Okay, appreciate And then my second question is when you're talking about these buffer walls, is there like a set definition for what that buffer wall is?
Yes. We have an arch we have requirements for architectural walls in our code. They have to be a minimum of six feet. They are they're designed to be an architectural wall and then with the landscape buffering around it.
Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that.
Mr. Rankes?
Can you touch a little bit more on the improvements that you were mentioning around that intersection of the traffic?
What does that look
It's not associated with this project. It's associated with the tradition DRI. If public works wants to speak on it, they're here.
We can talk high level, but they're only proposed. That item is going to be a subject of future consideration by city council. But I think what staff is acknowledging is that we understand that that intersection needs to be improved. And the team has been working with the master developer to get a condition to get that improved into another project, the tradition DRI. That's not part of this This application. This application. So Clyde could talk to at a high level, but it's not conditioned yet. Right.
As part of this application. Right.
Correct.
Clyde?
Clyde Cuffy, Public Works. So yeah, as Mary said, that is on a discussion right now, and it will be presented at the April City Council meeting for the Tradition DRI. And the conditions that we've recommended right now is to increase the length as well as adding
additional westbound left turn lane from Crosstown to Fair Green and then adding an additional receiving lane on Fair Green as well. Right now there's only one southbound lane on Fair Green, but two turn lanes will require two receiving lanes.
All good. Thank you. Any other questions from the board members to the staff? Seeing none, applicant is here.
Evening. Good evening. For the record, Lee Dobbins with the Dean Meade Law Firm. And I want to thank staff for their hard work on this. Ms. Keene already covered a lot of what I was going to talk about. I don't have a presentation, but I just do want to cover a few items, answer some of your questions, and give some context. So as you know, this property is part of the tradition DRI and the tradition MPUD, which govern the development of the site and have been in place for a number of years. As Ms. Keane indicated, this at one time was going to be the final phase of Heritage Oaks.
And there was a 2006 application by Kennedy Homes for 106 townhomes on the site. The property has retained those entitlements for all that time. I don't know how familiar you are with the DRI and the matrix, but there's a matrix which lays out the entitlements for all the properties. Madamey is the master developer, kind of controls that and authorizes trading between certain types of uses pursuant to the matrix in the DRI. But this property has sat there with this 106 multifamily dwelling units for all this time.
The landowner currently pays an annual CDD assessment based on that 106 multifamily units. So under the existing entitlements for this property, the landowner could develop 106 multifamily units, so townhomes, apartments. And that would be what's called a buy right approval in the business. So that means they could basically come in, file for a site plan approval, and all they would need to do is make sure that they meet all the requirements for city code with respect to that site plan approval. So drainage, parking, buffering, landscaping, all of those things.
As long as the site plan met all those requirements, they would be entitled to receive their approvals and build 106 apartments, townhomes, whatever type of multifamily. However, the landlord or I'm sorry, the landowner understands that the city is not really looking for more residential at this time. There has been a large influx of residents into the city, and they understand that there's been a lot of pushback on new residential, and there's not a lot of appetite for new communities bringing in more residents and more impacts to the community. So instead of trying to push a rock uphill, they're interested in bringing what the city is looking for, which is more commercial, and converting the property to commercial use. So this property is part of the mixed use area, which allows that menu of uses that Ms.
Keene was showing. Right now, it's designated for residential, so it need to be have the designation in the MPUD changed to a commercial designation. But I want to make clear, they're not looking to do all those uses that are listed there. So like I saw, industrial and hospital, they're converting it to retail office, which is the same as the property next door where the the Circle K is located. So it's those kind of general commercial uses, they would not be looking to do industrial or anything.
So you're not looking to do a car wash or a service station?
Well, those types of things are allowed just as they are next door. They don't have users signed up currently, so we don't know exactly what those users would be, but it would allow those same mix of uses. So it could be service station, restaurants, retail strip center, there's a number of things that fall into that kind of commercial office retail category.
On the west side of those parcels, those are buffered with retention ponds now, right, correct?
I'm sorry, the
So the West Side Bridget, can you pull that? There
is a lake that wraps around the south side to the west side of this property. Right.
So yeah, so that's there's water buffering that those parcels from the residential that's existing, correct?
Correct. Except for a small strip there that was intended to be a road that would connect to this final phase, which was never Got
it. Thank you.
And we have no intention of opening. So you mentioned about Matamy controlling the matrix and uses. The landowner has been in touch with Madamey, and they are consenting to converting the 106 multifamily to a commercial use. But as a part of that, one of the things that Manamey would want would be for the landowner to take responsibility for doing improvements to the intersection, and they are amenable to doing that. They would want to do improvements at the intersection.
In addition, okay, we talked about the uses. So these are just the same office retail uses as Nextdoor. So basically that's it. We have our team here with us, Brad Currie with Haley Ward is also on this project and we have the Kites here who are the owners of the property. So if you have questions of us, we're available to answer those.
Members of the Board?
Mr. Chair. Pete. So if this stayed residential, there would be no proposed improvements to the intersection, correct?
No, this landowner would not be required to do that.
Okay. So if this was changed then the requirement would be that there is there are improvements made to intersection there.
That is a requirement of the master developer Madame and Madame would be putting that requirement
a condition to converting to the residential.
I'm sorry. Well converting to commercial.
Correct.
Great. Thank you. And Lee, what are those improvements look like specifically?
As a lawyer, I will not try to talk about traffic and Brad, you want
to talk to that? You want
to come up here and take that?
Evening again. Brad Curry with Hayley Ward. I believe staff answered that question. The exact improvements are not identified. I mean, that'll come before you guys as part of the tradition in PUD. I think additional changes that are DRI changes that are happening. But if you're familiar with the intersection, if you're taking a if you're going westbound on the Crosstown and you get to Fair Green, you take a left, there's actually two lanes there. One of them is striped and one is not. And so I know one of the improvements potentially is going to be to mill and resurface that to where there's dual lefts at that intersection. That will help the stacking on Crosstown.
In addition to that, as you make those dual lefts going south onto Fair Green, that will also have to be widened to accept the dual lefts as well. So I know there's probably more, but I know that was something that was discussed for sure. But that's going to be part of the tradition DRI that will come before the support.
I appreciate that. Thank you.
Pete? So Brad, I mean, think that's important for the public to understand is that those improvements are going to be required by MATAMI if this is I mean
By city and by Matamey, Right, yes
so Matamey is going to require that of the property owner, the developer
Yes, as part of negotiation, yes sir.
Right, okay.
So I just want to make sure that because I'm sure we're going get lots of questions about that. So the difference is if this becomes commercial, there's lots of improvements potentially required for the intersection. If it stays residential, there's really no
That's my understanding. Yes, sir.
Great, thank you.
I have a question. You're going, you said tradition DRI, some of those are negotiations that you're doing through the Community Development District, I assume?
With the master developer.
Master developer, And
the master developer is
Matamey. Matamey.
Okay.
I believe Seth has something to correct me on. Hear him whispering.
So if I could just clarify, and I don't want to get too far off scope so the attorney can reel me in. There's a separate application that the City Council will consider April 13. That's for the tradition DRI. And that's for the entire DRI. It's not just this area.
Within or as part of that consideration, the City Council is going to be revising some of the conditions and adding new conditions onto the master developer. One of those requirements the city council is going to consider asking the master developer to commit to making additional infrastructure improvements. One of those improvements that's being, will be discussed is going to be this intersection. Right. So the council will be negotiating with MADME as far as what's needed.
What the applicant is saying is that they're working with Matamy and Matamy is passing the requirement for this intersection through to them if it is a commercial parcel.
Got it.
If it's not a commercial parcel and this application dies, the requirement will still be on Matamy, less certain of a timeline.
Okay, thank
you. The, Joe, you had a question? So to clarify, that traffic improvement is going to happen either way, is that correct?
The Public Works Department is here. They have studied that intersection and identified improvements that are needed. Currently nobody is mandated to make those improvements. So that's what the team is working on actively at the direction of our leadership.
So city council is going to discuss that at the April meeting?
April 13, the tradition DRI will be before them for discussion.
Okay, great. Any other members have a question for the applicant? Just one question for staff. Bridget, the applicant did testify that it's a city preference to have commercial versus residential. Is that the case?
Well, I mean, the city has recognized a need for commercial property. I can't specify that this would be the city council's preference for this location. This application, after your recommendation, will go before them, and then they will have the opportunity to vote on that. So I can't speak as to whether there is a preference at this location. There is a recognition that more commercial is needed in the city.
In the city. Is less of a desire for residential, correct? Again,
I can't speak to that. I mean, there are residential projects that are going forward. It's just
That are
already entitled.
Right, right, correct. Correct.
But I think it's important what we talked about earlier is that the comprehensive plan really would like to have more
We have less commercial than what is really needed to serve our public, our residents. That's correct.
Great, thank you.
And to ease the burden on the public's tax.
I can't speak to that. Don't know, but okay.
I got
you. One last point. Bridget, this is not, this current piece of property is not open space, green space, parkland.
For some reason, when they did this back in whenever they planted it in 2006 or before then, they listed it as open space.
They called it.
And then they said you could have utilities, you could have pedestrian, and you could have future development. So probably if somebody tried to do that now, we'd kind of say, no, you have to identify what parcel is going to be. I think they were just trying to come up with what this could be in the future. But it's kind of odd to say open space and utility, and future development. It's an odd dedication of that many uses. They kind of don't go together. But yes, it was intended for future development. It was phase C of the heritage oaks.
Okay. Thank you.
Any other questions from members of the board? Okay, this is a public hearing. I do have cards in front of me. If you wish to speak, I'll call your name. I'm going to call two names at a time, so the second person would just come up behind the first. You do have three minutes to speak. Please do speak on the item. And the first name I have here, and please excuse me if I pronounce it incorrectly, but Bridget
and LeBronchik? She she left. Okay.
Robert Geddesen?
Yes. And
after Robert is Lisa Corrado? Corrado. Corrado.
So Mr. Chair, can I just make a comment? So I've been charged with timekeeping. So I get extra pay for tonight.
We're doubling his salary.
So just be mindful of the clock up We want to give everyone a full three minutes, but just be mindful.
Absolutely. Thank you very much. My name is Robert M. Gattison. I am a retired federal law enforcement officer with the Department of Treasury as well as Department of Homeland Security. I have been sworn. Of course, you understand that one of my major concerns is security for the residents. I live I don't know if the map has disappeared,
but over your backup.
Okay. My home is directly on the end facing the Heritage Section of that proposed land. I have a picture. I don't know if you all can see this, but this is directly behind my home. This is what I bought. Okay? I've been here for going on three years. I moved here three years. And I moved in this community because it is, in fact, a gated community. So security is very important to me.
So the proposed wall is a good idea for the property, for heritage hoax. Also, I heard earlier that a traffic survey has not even been done.
Is that correct? We're not going have a discussion.
listen Okay. Well, I think before you could plan anything, you'd have to do a traffic survey. Okay. Furthermore, I don't know if you would consider the impact on the value of our property. See that little shiny house right there? That's my house. Okay? So I don't know what kind of impact this commercial property is going to have impact on our property in Heritage Oaks. And I mean, is it going to affect our property taxes? I don't know.
But I would just want the board to consider those things. The security, the traffic survey, the impact it's going to have on our property. And also, is it going to reduce our property values? I think it's very important to everybody that lives in Heritage Oaks. I'm good. Thank you very much for your time.
Thank you. You. Ms. Corvado?
Yes. And
then after Ms. Corvado, Raymond McGinnis is it? Okay.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Board, Ms. Fogarty. I appreciate the opportunity here. I have been sworn in. My name is Lisa Corvado, and I am a resident of the Heritage Oaks community. I too am, right at the end there, the only red home four, four homes in from that water buffer there. So this significantly impacts, my home and my quiet enjoyment. I wanna thank the two gentlemen for bringing up traffic studies and overall impact to the community here. I would ask the board to consider tabling this so that a traffic study could be done.
I don't know if that's an opportunity to have that done. I commute every morning to the East Side of Port St. Lucie Boulevard by way of Crosstown Parkway to take my son to Morningside Academy. The traffic that I incur just to get out of my development to turn on to Crosstown Parkway, I have to leave twenty minutes earlier just to make sure I can get my son to school on time. The lights are not timed correctly.
The density of the traffic already going and flowing through Village Parkway onto Crosstown, I'm very concerned that this commercial mixed use parcel is going to severely impact the quiet enjoyment and the overall feel of our master plan tradition community. I know that the city is saying that they'd love more commercial instead of residential. We're a portion of the city in tradition. We have a density situation there and a traffic situation there. So bringing a commercial development much like potentially some of the other neighboring commercial developments immediately surrounding that is a big concern.
Also, with a five year old son, I have a big security concern. So thank you for bringing up and acknowledging that there is a minimum six foot wall that buffer that must be going around with, landscape. I respectfully ask that potentially we can raise that six feet buffer to something a little bit larger than that. Also, if this actually becomes a commercial parcel, there's got to be lighting. I'd like the board to take into consideration the actual lighting that we would be looking at as a residential community.
I'm not looking forward to seeing my end of my roadway lit up like a Christmas tree. I understand that there are certain lighting requirements that commercial environments need to have. I'm a residential environment. Thank you.
Can please
wrap it up? Sorry.
Can please wrap You threw me three minutes. That's all
I have
to say.
Thank
you. Thank you.
Mr. McGinnis, you're up. Janet Edwards, you'd be next. Janet Edwards, Ms. Edwards, you'd be next.
I'm Ray McGinnis. Excuse me. Mr.
McGinnis, have you been sworn in? I
am sworn in.
Thank you.
My wife and I are have purchased our home about five years ago, which is across the lake and would be looking at the proposed development, we would prefer not to have the residential nature of the parcels changed. Presently, the single lane avail I'm going read this letter.
Think Go right ahead.
Better. Presently, the single lane available for traffic exiting Crosstown Parkway onto Southwest Fairgreen Drive is already inadequate due to vehicles backing up onto Crosstown Parkway's westbound lanes and blocking them while waiting to enter the turning lane. Another lane is needed now due to the danger that stopped traffic poses. Additionally, the two lanes comprising Southwest Fairgreen Drive will be inadequate to accommodate additional traffic safely. Additional lanes and paved berm space, bike lanes may be needed.
As Tradition Oaks as Tradition Heritage Oaks is a gated community, the proposed change will result in security concerns for us and the other community residents. Commercial retail use of these parcels will change the residential nature of our community adversely and likely negatively impact the value of our properties and for the above reasons we object to the proposed changes. Additionally, we request that any development of this land include a provision or condition that a raised bank or berm with adequate shrubbery such as along Crosstown Parkway and an architectural wall, which has been addressed, and I'm pleased to hear that's a requirement, to be built along the property line adjoining heritage oaks to mitigate security aesthetics and financial concerns. I've been as a resident here for the last five or six years, I've been really pleased with the community and the work that you folks are doing. And it's a beautiful community.
And I'll just trust that you'll make your best decision. Please include our input and your official record. I've given copies to the young lady over here for your use as well as the forces of City Council. So thank you for the opportunity to comment and please consider our input for your review and consideration.
Thank you, Mr. Nguyen. Thank you.
Ms. Edwards? After Ms. Edwards,
I've been sworn in. My name is Janet Edwards.
Before you start, Mr. Joseph Mangione. Is that Joseph? Joseph? You're next.
You'll be next, Joe.
You're next up. You can stay there. I'm sorry. Yes. So go right ahead.
All right, thank you. I appreciate the opportunity to speak. I too live in Heritage Oaks, And I am either fortunate or unfortunate in that my backyard is on the lake that you all have been talking about as the edge of the property. Heritage Oaks uses both fences and landscaping to keep our gated community private. And if that land on the other side of the lake, which is home to much wildlife that I enjoy watching, if that's removed, then we have no protection on that side of the development to keep people from wandering in and taking advantage of our amenities that we pay a lot for.
I am concerned about the noise, the lights, the traffic, and strangely enough, the litter. We've had the HOA maintenance group picking up trash in that corner that blows in from Crosstown and just sits there. We heard that one of the ducks got caught up in a plastic bag. So it is a concern. And I was really pleased to hear that offense of some sort would be required, which makes me feel a lot safer other than just opening up that property and leaving the HOA to figure out what to do.
But I really hope you consider keeping it residential. I understand that you're looking for more commercial property, but that's part of the landscape of what was going to be Heritage Oaks. And it's really contiguous. And it's also difficult to see how it can be separate from the area that we share. Thank you.
Thank you, Ms. Edwards. Joseph, how do you pronounce your name?
One more time for me. Mucillo, m u c c I o l o.
Nice Nice Irish name. Right? Okay.
My name is Joseph Mucillo. I'm I've been sworn in and I'm a retired architect. I also live on the other side of the lake. Like my neighbors before me, I wake up in the morning all day long, I look at the forested area, I look at the beautiful birds that are there, the herons, the egrets and all that, which are protected species. I don't know why they are being dismissed, but they are.
My wife and I enjoy this land that we have, and I just want to read a few things here that I made some notes with. Is currently a forested area that serves as one of the few remaining natural buffers in this part of the community. It is my understanding that several Florida cities and counties, including Orlando, Miami Dade, and Port St. Lucie have adopted individual long term plans to ensure residents live within ten minute walk, approximately a half a mile, of a public park. These efforts align with the national ten minute walk campaign to improve health and equality and sustainability.
Why can't we make it a park instead of going residential or commercial? And speaking of commercial, I understand Wawa wants to build in there, which will add to the noise pollution. We already have noise pollution of cars and people going up and down with their bikes, motorcycles and loud radio playing. I want to try to keep that down. It's supposed to be a residential area.
So maybe that's the way to go, it's just with the 106 residents that they want to put in there. As far as the corner, I don't know whose responsibility that is. Everybody seems to be wanting to shove it on to somebody else. Maybe the county has to take responsibility for that. Maybe the city has to take responsibility for that.
I don't know. But it's a thing to look at. Also, what was I going to say? Like I said, we have the environmental concerns of noise pollution and quality of air. We put commercial properties in there such as another gas station, we're going to have environmental issues.
Where is the for the storm water, what's going to happen with that, all the infrastructure has to be looked at. So I think this thing has to be put on hold until we get what's going to happen with the infrastructure, what's going to happen with the commercial traffic, what's going to happen with the land development as a whole, how is that going to impact? You have three properties in Verano, which is practically across the street from us that was earlier discussed as being commercial properties. Do we need another commercial property? I don't think so.
Thank you.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. Have a good night. Ms. Kathy Powers. And ask after Ms. Powers is Dana Davidson. Nice to see you again, Ms. Powers.
Hello. Good evening. My name is Doctor. Kathy Powers, I have been sworn in. I looked online to see if I could find a site plan for the road construction. And when I called the planning and zoning department, they said, no, it's not there. So come here and ask for it. So I have listened now. And I hear that there will be a study looked at if next week, I guess it is, that the city of Port St. Lucie Council will go forward and look for that to be in place.
I'd tell you, probably fourteen years ago, whatever, I came before the city council and then Mayor Orvec. And I said, what do you mean you're gonna do a traffic study for Crosstown and Village Parkway? There will be four people trying to go at the same time, and that's not a really good plan. There will be accidents. So instead of doing a study, why don't you make the developer pay for it?
So I'm glad to see we're taking steps forward to have our developers pay for the infrastructure. But there's a lot of need for, I'm hoping Mr. Coffey, you'll attend to it, making this a better intersection. A quick question. Has there ever been a look see at the vegetation that is comprising this area?
And I know having served and serving on the tradition of CDD as a representative from Vitalia, I always ask about the trees. And so you will see there is a tree at the I guess whatever the name of it is called, but it's surviving. And I said, yes, we need to keep that. It was going to be paved over in a parking lot. So I might look for the trees and see what the wildlife will be in there. It would be wonderful. So thank you for your time, and I look forward to having a nice intersection. Thank you.
Thank you, miss Powers. Thank you. Miss Davidson? You need to be sworn in?
Okay. Madam Clerk, please swear in. Miss Davidson.
Do you swear or affirm that the statements made today will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes. Thank you.
Thank you. You have three minutes.
Hello. My name is Dana Davidson, and I live at nine thousand five hundred fifty two Southwest Flower Mound Circle. My home here and I'm sure you guys can't really see it, but it's that home there that's probably the closest to Crosstown Parkway directly behind that lake. I'm neighbors with all the Heritage Oaks people that are here right now. So I want to focus on noise because it's already such a serious, ongoing problem.
Vehicles regularly are accelerating from Village Parkway onto Crosstown, then they break at Fair Green, and then accelerate again. And it creates this constant engine noise and loud muffler sounds. The speed limit right there in that small section is 45 miles an hour. Added to this are horns from people getting mad that there's traffic. There's emergency vehicle sirens.
There's accidents and activity from the nearby gas station that is there, the Circle K. The lake also amplifies these sounds, making them even more pronounced. And as a result, I cannot comfortably enjoy my patio or any of my outdoor space. Also, there's a fairness issue here. And to my knowledge, East Of 95 on Crosstown, the city has installed noise walls, burns, landscape buffers, and conducted surveys to protect those residents.
West Of 95, including my neighborhood, these protections do not exist. Only the nearby wall was installed, which is from Circle K East towards 95, was installed by the tradition developer to help with, I guess, what we would call regular nontradition residents and to help them with the noise. And that was done early 2000s. So including my neighborhood, these protections do not exist. The only nearby wall was installed by the tradition developer.
So our neighborhood is left being fully exposed even as traffic activity has increased. Approving a commercial zone here would make things worse, adding more traffic, delivery vehicles, 20 fourseven lighting, extended hours of operation, increased noise, fumes layered on top of an existing unmitigated impacts. For these reasons, I respectfully ask that the council deny this rezoning request as well as any in the future and at a minimum consider commercial development in this area should be deferred until a formal noise and traffic study is completed. Mitigation measures are identified, and there is a formal commitment from the city to address the current conditions that leave our neighborhood exposed, which, by the way, I love the idea of the wall. We need your help there, big time.
It's a serious issue. And the wall, to go from fair green all the way to village, not just stop around the yellow there, would you. Really be ideal.
Thank you, Ms. Davidson. We appreciate that. That's the only cards I have. Anyone else or a member of the public wish to speak on this item? Please come forward, state your name for the record, and ask and let us know if you've been sworn in. If you have not been sworn in, I'll have the clerk swear you in. Okay. Madam clerk, please swear in.
Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm that the statements made today will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
I do.
Thank you.
Hello. What's your name, sir?
My name is Doug Legler.
Mister Legler, when you're finished, please complete a comment card.
I will. Thank you.
So I wasn't planning on speaking tonight, but I have the unique experience of doing the leasing on the strip center, which is to the east of the Circle K right there. Excuse me. So I had that plaza pre leased almost entirely before we broke ground. That's a symptom of not having enough commercial, enough retail. And tradition has some of the highest rents in all of St. Lucie County, and that's because there's not enough supply. So
those
rents, they get passed on to the consumer. Your goods, your services, it all gets passed on. And I'm not hired by this property owner or anything like that, but excuse me, have a little bit of sore throat here. But I believe this is all to be invasives on this property. I'm very familiar with this area. And anyhow, basically, what I'm getting at here is tradition, thousands of homes, as you know, very limited retail. There's really only a street and a half that has retail, and it's inadequate. You shouldn't have a plaza completely leased almost before you even break ground. That's not normal. I've been doing commercial real estate for twenty years, and that's a symptom of a problem.
So I respect these residents here, and I understand. But maybe they should have that little land bridge deconstructed if they're concerned about crime or whatever it is. But I just want to say that tradition just does not have enough retail and commercial. And again, it's kind of obvious if you spend a lot of time in this area that there just isn't enough amenities for the people. I guess essentially that's pretty much what I'm getting at here is, you know, it's kind of obvious that it needs more commercial.
Excuse me. It needs more office. Sorry. I have a little bit of a sore throat here.
I've It's a bummer. A wet here. It's
It's little hard to get out. But anyhow, what I'm getting at is if you spend time in this area, you kind of understand there's not enough amenities. There's more people than there is services. And it's a needed it's a needed what's the word I'm looking for? I don't wanna call it a necessary evil because it's not. All your tax base for the most part comes from industrial and commercial. You know, residents are great, but commercial doesn't usually bring people to the area. Residential brings people to the area. The commercial just services these people that are in this area. So I honestly feel that this should be approved, and it's an appropriate spot.
And if you look at tradition, again, it's a road and a half of commercial. And that's just inadequate for all the thousands of homes that are coming to this area. And that's, I guess, all I gotta say. So thank you.
Alright. Thank you. Thank you
for your comments. Appreciate it.
Anybody member of the public wish to speak on the item? Come on forward, sir. And ma'am, come on forward. Come on. You're here. You're here. State your name for the record, please, and whether or not you've been sworn in.
Margaret Mucholo, I have not been sworn in.
Okay. Have you been sworn in, sir? On, state your name for the record and company sworn
in. James Allman. Okay.
Madam Clerk.
Please raise your right hands. Do you swear or affirm that the statements made today will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
I do.
And after your comments, please fill out a card over here.
Thank you.
Your first name?
What's your name again, ma'am?
Margaret Muchlau. Believe you have one of my emails already, so I'm going to try to be
brief. Okay.
Oh, thank you. This is all new territory. I I didn't plan on speaking tonight, but I'm surprised that a lot many people have brought up wildlife. I live right across from there in Heritage Oaks, and there are beautiful birds that call this area home. And a lot of these birds are protected, which I'm surprised no one's concerned about, but they are.
And as a member of this community, I have to tell you, I don't need any more commercial development. I have Publix, I have so many stores. In the area they're planning, there's a gas station right across the street from where they're planning, well, perhaps a gas station. We have supermarkets, little markets in these gas stations. I don't feel the need for any further commercial development. If anything, I feel the need that we keep walk paths for people to walk and the more traffic you put in place, the more dangerous those walk paths become. All right. I think we have to think of public need and public need is not commercial development. It's the enjoyment of life that we all seek. And that comes from nature. That's it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Appreciate your time. Just state your name for the record again, sir.
Good evening. James Allman for the record. I work with Douglas Legler, who spoke earlier, and like him, I was not planning to speak today, but just wanted to add a few comments to what he had mentioned. I worked with him on Mayfair Plaza, and I also represent a project just to the west of this that has come before you guys known as the Shops at Crosstown. That one is about three times as big as Mayfair Plaza, Also, 76% pre leased.
We have not broken ground yet. We will, hopefully, in summer. We could be fully pre leased right now if we wanted to be, but we are trying to create the best tenant mix for the residents. And just to give a little bit of background about those tenants, they are not destination tenants. They are service oriented tenants.
Actually, most of the business owners that we have signed leases with live in tradition. I get about one or two calls a week, to Doug's point, from folks that live in the area, want to expand their business, or want to open a business, and there is just not enough space for them to do so. Crosstown Parkway is one of the more constrained roads when you look at the major East westbound thoroughfares. In tradition, especially when you consider the units coming on to the west from a residential standpoint. And to reiterate earlier comments, those residential units are bringing in new people.
The folks that frequent these multi tenant strip centers and commercial properties are, for the most part, the folks that live and work in these areas. And again, thank you for your time this evening. I do think that there is a lot of families looking for services in the area and looking to also grow their personal businesses in the area. And I think this would be a great project for that as a large piece of land at a major intersection. So thank you guys for the time this evening.
Thank you, Mr. Allman. Thank you. Okay, any other members of the public wish to speak or comment? Okay, one last time. Any members of the public wish to speak or comment on the item? If not, I'm going to close the public hearing. Before I allow questions from the board, I do want to address a couple things. And Mary, correct me if I'm wrong, the scope of our responsibility here tonight is to make a recommendation to the City Council. The City Council has the ultimate decision, correct Mary?
Correct.
Okay. We're here basing our decision on the current codes, comprehensive plans, and future land use plans, as well as the testimony of staff, the applicant, and members of the public. Correct?
Correct.
All right. Thank you. Just to address a couple of different items. Safety, I think, is the number one concern of everyone up here, as well as the City Council. So rest assured, if there's any safety issues, the Council will probably not approve it. The traffic study is also something the City Council will require. Mayor?
Well if I may, for the tradition DRI, we have an updated traffic study for the entire DRI, which I'm sorry if I wasn't clear about it, but it does include specifically this intersection, And that's how the public works department with their study was able to identify what improvements are needed. So there is an actual traffic study for the entire area. It's just not included as part of this application, which is just to change previous entitled residential use to a retail office.
So, but will an additional traffic study be required for this new use?
When an application comes in. Right now we don't have an application or any uses identified.
So that time the City Council would make a decision based upon that traffic study, correct?
No SPRC would. Okay.
Depending on the study.
It depends what comes in. If it's over 10,000 square feet, it goes back to City Council. If it's under 10,000 square feet, it goes to SPRC.
Okay.
So again, we don't know. Nothing's been proposed yet, so.
Yeah. Just a couple other things I want to address here. Give me a point of personal privilege. Thank you.
You're the chair.
As far as lighting, noise, and issues of that sort, that is also addressed at the time.
I'll speak to the lighting restriction.
It's on, okay. Our code does have restrictions on lighting when it backs up to residential. So they would, it has to do with the height. So the closer you get to residential, the smaller the lights have to be.
Okay. To the point of making it a park, unfortunately, this is not owned by the city, so we cannot make that a park, I don't believe. Right, Mayor?
In order for it to be a park, the city would need to purchase it.
Okay.
Just to clarify, that intersection is the city's responsibility and not the county's responsibility. It was commented that the county should take it's the city's responsibility. Correct, mayor?
Well, it's a city roadway.
far as the environmental issues that were raised, before any applicant can move forward with any type of application, they'd have to make sure that all the environmental studies and Not conditions would be
to injudge you, but yes, before they could move forward with any application for site plan approval as part of that submittal, they would have to give us an environmental assessment report. And that will identify what is on the site, whether it's upland habitat or invasive or if there are protected trees for a city code. Okay.
Also, for the public, have seen the applicant and his representative be making copious notes down there. So I'm sure they'll also address the issue of the height of the wall as well as probable additional landscape buffers to assist in any noise or environmental issues. With that, I'll open up any questions to members of the Board.
I have a couple questions. Mr. Rosen? Yeah, that road that ends, I believe it's Glenbrook, what would happen there? Would the wall go over that road? Would it go around the road?
The wall will be on the property. So that road is not on their property. Right, you're talking about the little piece of roadway goes in Heritage Oaks. Is not on the property that's the 9.48 acres.
Gotcha, okay. I'm sorry, go ahead.
It would be in what our code requires is you have to be on the inside of the property line with your buffer.
Okay. And there would not be any type of gate or opening or anything or and maybe a better way to ask this is would there be any way for that to be a through road in the future without I
believe that road is a part of the HOA, so I don't know who's responsible for it, but
We're talking about Glenbrook Road. Correct?
Yes. If that's
the road that goes through Heritage Oaks.
Right.
Right. That that is not a part of this application. I can't honestly speak to it because I don't know.
Okay. But if the HOA did not want that to be a through road, they would be able to control that not being a through road. Correct?
I'm not sure who's it's not on this 9.4 acre property. So and this property is gonna have a wall along there, so I don't think it would not be able to go through their private development.
Okay, thank you. And then my other question is, I know in the past when we've looked at potentially rezoning something, we've looked maybe not at a specific traffic study for us. We have looked at specific this type of business, but we've also looked at what's the most intense use of this area and then what would that impact be. Is that something that we have the ability to discuss now before
we As make this Mary mentioned with the because we're working also on this tradition DRI. So the tradition DRI had its own traffic analysis for the area and in it it identified consultant, third party traffic consultant with Public Works, certain improvements that needed to be included. And this intersection is already identified with improvements in the tradition DRI. And Clyde could probably speak to those improvements. But then, again, with each site plan that comes in, Clyde can also speak to the fact that they're all looked at for access, they're looked at for what is needed for each use.
Okay, so then if I can just kind of reiterate my question, with whatever the most intense use of that property would be under the proposed rezoning and with whatever improvements we made to that intersection, would it be able to handle that?
So the DRI, the traffic survey that was provided with the DRI has looked at that intersection and assumed the most intense use of not only this parcel, but the entire DRI on a whole. When this parcel comes in, whatever it comes in with, we'll also look at that to see what it is producing. But usually, the the whole the entire DRI would be more stringent because the the process, for instance, they they come in for small sites that's less than 10,000 square feet. It may not be on its own generate a lot of traffic, but the DRI as a whole is generating a lot of traffic. So by looking at the DRI, the traffic side that was produced that was provided for the DRI, I think we are looking at more intense.
So Clyde, what you're saying is the road improvements are taking into consideration the most intense use.
Yes, they
do. So this particular project won't create a use higher than the most intense use, will it?
It should not. I mean, again, we don't know exactly what has been submitted because nothing has been submitted yet. But yes, based on the entitlements that they have right now, the most intense use is what's factored into the Tramnik side.
Does that answer your question, Mr. Rosen?
I'm 95% sure I understand this. I just
want to reiterate.
So the most intense use assuming the improvements Today. Would be done. No, I'm not talking about I'm talking about if we rezone it.
Well, that's you've taken that into consideration, correct?
Okay. With the rezoning being proposed and whatever improvements are being required to that intersection, we would be good with the most intense use of that property, correct?
So at the time the traffic study is done, we are looking at the existing uses and what's entitled. If the past is rezoned in the future, we don't have that knowledge of what is going to be rezoned to. So the traffic study that was that we've looked at is based on the most intense of what's available right now.
And Clyde, if I could just add, it's based on the max, each DRI has a maximum number of entitlements, and the traffic analysis is based on all those entitlements. So that would take into consideration if this has changed from a use that's residential to a use that's commercial. They do it based on a matrix, a conversion matrix that basically compares trips. And we get another, and then we look at it again with each site plan that comes in, they also provide a traffic study. So yes, you would have this major intersection, but then if additional improvements are needed based on a certain use, that would then be required at that stage.
So for instance, a great example would be the DRI is looking at the whole picture. So we're looking at the intersection when this parcel comes in, say for instance based on the use that they're providing that they're proposing, they may need a turn lane specific to that parcel. But we don't know that right now because we don't know what's the proposed use. But when that proposed use comes in, it may require a dedicated turn lane into the parcel for us.
I'll say it like this because I'm still not understanding it. I would want to know with what we're proposing to vote in right now, whatever the most intense use for that would be, I'd want to know that we've looked at the traffic for that and we can do that. And maybe that takes some improvements, okay, as long as we've got that as an addition to whatever we're voting on. But if I can't be told clearly and right now maybe I'm misunderstanding it, but I'm not understanding that, then I would be a no vote on this until I see that. I understand you're saying, hey, once we get this specific business, we can look at that.
But we've done it in the past where we haven't looked at a specific business. We've looked at the most intense use and we've known that we could do that. So again, unless I'm misunderstanding it, this is not something I would support without seeing that the traffic study would support the most intense use. Questions? Any That's all my questions.
Mr. Manikas? My my impression is the same. I don't feel that I can make an adequate decision or adequate recommendation to city council without I feel that there's information missing. And maybe because maybe because, you know, I don't know if it's staff's impression that that information is not necessary in order to make the decision.
I don't disagree with a lot of those people that spoke tonight, both the residents and others who are in support, but I understand the concerns from the residents. I understand about nature, big fan of nature. I also understand about traffic, noise, safety. All those things are definitely things that need to be taken into consideration. But a huge concern about, you know, the residents is traffic and how it is they're going to, you know, move down Crosstown Parkway without being further impeded by more and more traffic.
I my gut is that this rezoning will probably reduce trips, but I can't say for sure. And I don't know if it's inappropriate for us as a board to request to see the objective data prior to making a recommendation to city council. Mayor?
So, mister chair, that's a great question. Certainly, it's the board's discretion. If you would like to consider tabling this matter to the next meeting or to a specified date
Can I ask a quick question?
Well, if I may. You can request additional information as part of that table. And I'm hearing that that information might be that you want the applicant to provide a traffic analysis, traffic statement, and have the city staff peer review that so that you can have that to help support your decision.
I'm inclined to table the Can
I ask question before we go? In tabling the item, are we going to hold up any council issues or any council items?
When you're done, this item does go to city council. Okay. But it goes to city council when you're done with it. This is not any other applications currently
are So it's
not holding up any other items?
They're independent of this. I'm sure the applicant would prefer to have it move forward, and of course they may have comments to add.
One second. I'm
sorry, just to clarify though, I wouldn't table it to next month because if you wanted traffic analysis. That's my next We'd need to have it reviewed by our third party. So we probably need like three months
or so.
Okay. Or two months.
Question was, I was anticipating that the traffic analysis or report that we would get is already is from existing information. Because you already said Right, right.
So. I mean we could, if you want it in a month, we'll ask the applicant to get it or maybe, you know.
But what else is gonna be done there that's not already done? I mean, what else was, what other kind of analysis would be done that's not
already So I in can't the speak to what the applicant might do, but the master developer has a recently completed traffic study for the entire DRI that they could certainly share. Okay,
so wait, the master developer already has a traffic study done for the DRI.
We peer reviewed it for the tradition DRI.
Okay, great.
So, but
that is for the current zoning, not the proposed zoning, correct? We're looking at the proposed zoning. Because if we're with the vote we're looking at Go ahead,
I'm sorry.
Folks, please remain in the quorum, no clapping, shouting out loud. Thank you.
We may be in a great position, not a great position, whatever with the current zoning. It doesn't matter because it's the current zoning, But we're looking at new zoning. I'd want to know what the most intense use is because if we can handle the most intense use, then maybe I'm in favor of it. If we can't quite do the most intense use, but we can do the second most intense use, then maybe I'm in favor with that contingency that we don't allow the most intense use, but we allow everything else. Just as an example, but without knowing that, I just can't support that. Yes. I mean, understand the developer has it, but if it's not with the proposed zoning, it doesn't really matter.
Mr. Dobbish, do you have a comment?
Yes, please, if I could just clarify a couple of things. First of all, I want to make clear that this is not a zoning change. This is a change of a use within the MPOD within the mixed use area. In terms of what staff was talking to you about the matrix, I just want to make sure you understand. There is a total number of trips allowed for this entire DRI.
When it was originally planned, it was calculated that there would be these uses. There's going to be x number of single family, x amount of multifamily, x amount of commercial, x amount of industrial. Each of these was going to produce a certain amount of trips, that was going to come up with a total. The matrix says that each of these uses produces a certain amount. So each property within the entirety is allocated a certain amount of use, which has certain trips allocated to it.
That's what the 106 multifamily units is all about that's allocated to this property. It's really all about traffic, and that's why these DRIs all have a matrix like that. So there's a certain amount of traffic associated to this with this site with 106 units. There's going to be a conversion which is going to convert this to commercial. And then it would be, I believe, an equivalent number of trips. Am I expressing that right? That
would be between you and that. Okay.
One point, and then David, did you want to talk about
Do you
have a question, Pete?
Yes, so I have a question. If you have 106 units, those the traffic for all 106 is going to go through Glenbrook Drive, correct?
It depends how the site is designed.
Some of it will go through, I mean it could be, right, because Glenbrook Drive is going to connect to those residential units, correct? Yeah. All right, just relax.
Folks, yeah, folks, please. Go ahead.
So I want to understand where does Glenbrook Drive play into that if it stays residential or if it's is that going to be walled off and that just stops because it's part of all of the residential development, all of that, right?
It would go on to Fair Green or on to Crosstown.
To then to be sense able
speculate on where traffic goes.
And Any other questions, members?
I just want
to make a statement here. I would like to see this piece of property be a benefit to the neighborhood rather than everybody against it. And for me to support it, I need more information.
What information do you need, Pete? What? What information do you need?
Well, as far as the businesses that are going in there is what I would like to
I don't think they know it at this point. But the traffic study is probably something that might be reasonable, Mary.
And if I can add specifically with the traffic study, I would want to know I know you said it's not a zoning change, it's a use change. I apologize. That's my fault. But with the use change, what would the most intense use be? And would that be more or less or equivalent traffic to what is currently assumed with the 106 residential that it's currently being used for.
If I saw that,
that would create confidence in me. Okay.
asking my engineers.
I I tell a lot of stories. And one of my favorite stories of all time was when I was a a young planner in Palm Beach County and traffic engineer, and we had traffic issues. And I got it was my first presentation before the Palm Beach County Board of County Commissioners, and I got to the traffic engineer. Was all excited. And I said I said, well, when they ask this question, I want you to get up and answer it. And he was a very wise old traffic engineer. He put his hand on my shoulder, and he said, if you start if I get up there, you've lost. And so I think that that's what we're experiencing right now. The way the DRI works there's always the analogy of a bucket of trips. When the DRI was approved, there's a bucket of trips, and those trips represent uses.
And they took those trips, they loaded them all on the roads everywhere, through the entire city of Port St. Lucie. And they said, if you build this and you do all these improvements, you're good. So and then you use the conversion matrix to say, you wanna do you didn't do enough industrial. You convert that to commercial or you move residential around. And so this conversion of trips is what typically happens with the DRI. And I think that's not something that I deal with every day. It's not something that you guys deal with every day. So it's a little bit different of a task. Think of it as a bucket of trips.
That bucket of trips is loaded on the roads. Whether it's residential in this piece or commercial in this piece, the trips should all be the same, is what I'm trying to say. Now, again, I'm not a traffic engineer. That's the way I explain it to my clients. And it's worked for the last thirty years, so that's the way I
explain it to you guys. Mr. Rancus?
I understand what you're saying, because you guys have the 30,000 foot view of the entire DRI. What we're hearing is concerned residents and how it is they're gonna traverse their neighborhood and what kind
of the
detrimental impact this zoning change or use change, excuse me excuse me, use change is gonna have. And it's a private piece of property. It's gonna get developed one way or the other, I'm I'm assuming. But I feel that as as as a board, we probably in our guts know which way this is gonna go, but I feel that there are pieces missing to the puzzle for us to absolutely make that decision that we're confident we're making the right decision for the community. And my gut also, and it's good size, is that I think that more than likely, what's gonna go there is probably gonna benefit the community more than they know.
My gut tells me that 106 townhomes will create quite a bit more traffic than the commercial. I just would like to see the objective data that proves to me, makes me feel better, help me sleep at night.
And and we're more than willing to do that. I just know that from a specific traffic standpoint of this one project, it's not the way typically you do DRIs. So I'll have to go back and talk with our traffic engineer, find out exactly how to do it. But I'm just telling you that I think what you guys are asking for is gonna be difficult to do in this situation because it is a DRI. You have to think of it as more global. That's the intent of a DRI. Development of regional impact is
what it stands for.
So it's difficult to come in and look at this one intersection.
It's specific parcel, but it's something that can be done. Correct, Brad?
I don't know.
Yeah. As as as our perspective, we're we're the laypeople. You know? We're we're not the ones with general, you know, engineering degrees or law degrees or anything like that. So we're the ones that are supposed to be between the citizens and Understood. You guys and do our best to make a decision based on the best of our community. So we appreciate your efforts in trying to help us clarify and make the right decision on this.
You. Mary, do have a comment?
So what I'm hearing from the board is that you're requesting a traffic statement or supplemental study that compares the traffic generation from the potential townhomes in this location towards a retail office mix. Of course as you know, we don't know what might go there.
Right. But
you can give us what the most maximum, the maximum the most retention Right.
We would have them prepare it the way they always do, right, using their procedures.
And using a conversion method, correct?
We'll ask them to provide the information and then we'll peer review it. We won't tell them how to do But what But that shouldn't I'm hearing about take
that long.
It should not. What I would suggest to you is if you're inclined to table this, then please, when you finish your conversation with the applicant, tell them any other information that you need. And then when you do, if you do vote to table, your next two meetings are May 5 and June 2. Okay?
I'm sorry to keep interrupting here.
No, good.
I was, so there's an item up at the city council in a week or so, is that correct?
And that item is a change to the DRI. Is that correct statement? And that item has a traffic study that was submitted with it that shows this being potentially commercial and shows what the impacts of this is going to be if this return to commercial.
Just have that in of us.
it's already done. It should be easy to produce, correct?
That's my understanding, but it's also going to be up at City Council in a week or so.
That's on a different application. So I guess our, again, we have options here. Approve with conditions, deny, or table.
I'm make a motion if
I One second, one second. We have no more public comment. This is just board discussion. Sir, no more public comment. Thank you very much. No public
comment at the end of the meeting, right?
At the end of the meeting, after all the items have been discussed, you can have public comment at that particular time. But right now, Eric, you have something else?
I'm ready to make a motion.
I have comments.
So I just want to say thank you to all the residents that came tonight. We'd like to see more residents come to regular meetings. But I was encouraged by some of the comments from the residents about the proposal of the wall and the berm and the landscaping, right? So there are mitigation opportunities for protecting the view and so forth. And if you look at the east side where that storage is, there's trees across the water, so maybe that could be done here.
But I just was encouraged by some of the comments that the residents appreciated that wall proposal with the berm and the landscaping.
And I do believe that the applicant has been taking copious notes about those items.
Yeah, great. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Any other comments, questions, motion and I'll entertain a motion.
Yeah, I'll make a motion to table item, It's tradition MPUD amendment number 16, MPUD amendment application P26Dash026 to the next meeting being April I'm sorry. May 5, is it?
Yes, sir.
To the next meeting being May 5. Second.
I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? We'll see you
May 5. So for the public's I make a statement? Go right ahead, Mr. Chair. So Mary, just for the public's knowledge, this is going to be discussed next week at the council's meeting, right?
This particular application, the tradition DRI, which is for the entirety of tradition.
I And we'd encourage you to come to that meeting
as well. That could be a
good opportunity.
This intersection is part of that, but that application is not about just this intersection.
But that might be an opportunity for some of the public to come Hear and
about the traffic improvements that could be coming.
Great. Thank you. Okay.
We are on to item 8E, Midway Specialty Care Center, Inc. Before you start, are there any ex parte communication left or right, Pete? Ex parte? None. None. None. None. Any ex parte over there?
Marissa.
Good evening, Bern. Marissa, Gabriela, Planning and Zoning Department. I have been sworn in and the official files were presented to the clerk at least five days prior to this meeting. Madam Clerk, please enter the files into the record. This should be somewhat easier. Midway Specialty Care Center is a request for a rezoning P25-twenty9. The applicant request to rezone the subject property from single family residential to general commercial zoning district to be consistent with the city's comprehensive plan.
Excuse me. One second.
Hey, folks. We have a meeting going on here. Thank you. Sorry, Marissa.
The applicant is Del Toro Law, and the property owner is Middle East Specialty Care Center Inc. The parcel is located at the Southwest corner of Southwest Port St. Lucie Boulevard and Southwest Babbitt Drive. Here's an aerial of the property. It shows it's just North of Beckel Road.
Here's the zoning map. This is the subject parcel, the parcel to the south, which is under the same ownership, it's zoned CG. Surrounding property is residential with the LMD, which is developed as a multifamily residential to the West. And the property to the South is also commercial to the Southwest. This is a future land use map showing commercial to the South, and we have some commercial to the North, and we have ROI to the east of the property.
The proposed zoning is consistent with policy one point one point four point one three of the future land use element of the comprehensive plan. And this is a table that shows that Commercial General is a compatible zoning district. The proposed zoning to General Commercial is compatible with the General Commercial future land use classification. The parcel on its own does not meet the minimum lot size requirement of 20,000 square feet, but it does when it's combined with the adjacent lot, which is under the same ownership. The parcel will require a unity of title with the adjoining lot prior to the application being reviewed by City Council and the unity of title is in process and it should be completed before this goes to council.
The planning and zoning staff finds a request to be consistent with the direction and intent of the future land use map policies of the city's comprehensive plan and recommends approval. Your actions tonight, a motion to recommend approval to City Council, a motion to recommend denial and a motion to table. This is the end of the presentation. Do you have any questions?
Thank you. Any questions for Steph? No. Okay. Thanks, Mercy. The applicant is here.
Just for the record, want to make sure, has there been any ex parte communication on that last No.
Said we didn't I ask? No. You did. On this item? On this item or last item? This item. On the
current item because neither
thought I
I did. The clerk or I could recall if you had called.
Well, we could do it again. We'll do it again. Any expectations?
None. None.
None. None. None. None. I believe I did it though, but that's okay. Did it. Reefer. Peter would have said
something. Yeah.
Peter would have said something. We we have four here. And then I would have a four no. We have a four piece. Mister Del Toro.
Chairman, members of the board, good evening. My name is attorney Peter Del Toro. I've been sworn in. I represent Midway Specialty Care Center. So this we're asking for a change in zoning for this one particular parcel. The parcel Track A, the 3.3 acres, we currently own that. Mhmm. And Track B is owned by CVS, and we're looking to develop this this this track day and add that one quarter acre parcel that we purchased to do medical offices. So Midway Specialty Care Center is a five zero one(three) not for profit that specializes in infectious disease care. But we also have, under our umbrella, we also have primary care.
Our founder is one of the foremost infectious disease specialists in the world, actually. He has over 200 published studies, New England Journal of Medicine, Lancet, things like that. So we have a strong presence in the Treasure Coast. We're headquartered in Fort Pierce. We have offices up there for specialty and primary care.
We also have offices on the Hilmore area where the hospital is on by US 1, and this will give us a presence out in this area. We talk about the traffic and things like that. This is gonna be a good commercial use of this property for the residents in that area. So in addition to the primary care and specialty care, our offices also has our umbrella also has our physicians practice in the hospital. So if a patient gets discharged from the new hospital over off of Eckerd, they can come right to here for follow-up care.
Almost all of our physicians have hospital privileges. And we also have Midway Immunology and Research Center, which is part of every clinical trial for HIV for the past twenty five years has gone through our centers. So we can offer that to our patients too. Antibiotic trials, we do a lot of clinical trials. So we're looking to put a medical facility on this property, which would be adjacent with the CVS.
You can come in. The residents in that area can come in, get their medical care, go right to CVS, get prescriptions filled. And we're working with CVS on developing the property. We don't have the pictures up. On the backside where it turns into residential, we're developing, between our two properties, a lift station and then a big retention pond on our property with CVS too. But the runoff would also be a nice buffer between the residents that are behind us. But that one corner piece that we got, we believe we have enough parking right now to build a building on Watt without that lot. But we we purchased that. It was for sale. We purchased it for sale.
We don't think on that corridor, it's basically becoming all commercial, Port St. Lisa Boulevard. We So think it goes with the it's just kinda congruent with the whole Track A and Track B on that corridor, and then the residents start after that. So that lot may be used for parking, probably employee parking because that would be the furthest because the building would be up on the road. But if not, it'll end up still staying as a green space or a buffer to the house next door. So we're just asking for consideration on changing that zoning. We already have submitted the unity of title that's required so we can move up forward developing the property, and I can take any questions that you guys have about our our entity.
All right,
thank you. Any questions,
members of
the board, for the applicant?
I'm just wondering,
Eric.
Architectural buffer between, I assume there will be a required six foot wall between the commercial and the residential spaces.
So the scope of the application before the board is a rezoning of So the single family the development of the adjacent parcel has not been submitted. Yes, our code does require between commercial and residential properties a wall, but we're not there yet.
We're not there yet. Okay, thank you.
But just to clarify. We're looking we'll
do whatever we have to do. We're looking to be good neighbors serve the community. So whatever is going have to happen will happen.
Right, the applicant will comply with any compliance. Thank you. Any other questions from the applicant? Okay. Thank you, sir.
I thought it was going be harder than last. Thank you guys for your patience. I appreciate it.
Any further questions of the applicant or staff? Okay. This is a public hearing. Any members of the public wish to speak on the item? Members of the public? Seeing none, close to public hearing. I'll entertain a motion and discussion.
I'll make a motion to approve Medway Specialty Care Center Incorporated rezoning project number P26-forty9.
Second.
I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Good luck and thank you.
Thank you, Mayor's report.
Okay, any new business, Mayor?
Okay, I asked Mary first. All right, Pete. I heard of Peter Poe and Mary, but
So you may or may not have received it yet, but I did send the board each a copy of our planning and infrastructure study, which is great reading. And I know some of you are familiar with it, but we have several new people on the board. So, I just sent that to everybody for equity's sake. I think it's a good read. I think it's good background. And then it will the comp plan update which we're working on and we're going to be coming and talking to you about will follow that. So I sent it to you as kind of a primer and we did touch on it tonight. So good stuff.
And I do encourage the new members to just peruse that and ask any questions of staff if you do have any.
I have a question.
When did you hold on. When did you send that, Mary?
Last week.
Right? It was mailed last week.
Oh, it was mailed?
So I mean, yes.
Said You'll
probably getting it? Via the postal service.
Oh. So you'll probably get it next year?
So if new if Newman was our mailman. Newman.
New York.
Eric, did you have something?
I was just wondering if there's any educational opportunities coming up that we could attend. I know I went to Jupiter, the Jupiter workshop earlier, earlier this year, I don't know. Maybe late last year, but any kind
of That's great question. It's about that time of year. So I will double check and if I find something, I'll send it to Ms. Schutt to send to you. Great.
That's certainly beneficial to the new members. Okay.
And no old business and any public wish to speak? This is your time for public comment. Anybody come on forward. Please come forward. Please come forward. State your name for the record and speak into the microphone.
Pat Manelli, getting back to her jokes. They're not being honest with what they're putting in there. They're gonna put Wawas in there. Okay? You have traffic coming in off of 95, and you have coming across town. You have school buses. It's impossible to get about out of our places between the hours of three to about 06:00. The traffic is horrendous. When they put Circle K in, there's like a when you come out of Publix, there's a turn lane there. There's like a little belly.
They should have taken that complete belly out and just made that a turn lane going into Circle K, because that's a lot of commercial traffic that goes in there to get their gas. Okay. And then you're putting a Wawa there. We have seven Eleven, we have seven Eleven a little
up Circle K and now we're to have Wawa. They're not being honest with what they're putting in there. And traffic is horrendous. And you have school buses because of the city park that they put in over there. No idea the traffic. No idea the traffic. And that's morning and in the afternoon. So it really needs to be looked at because they're not only coming in from Crosstown, it's coming from 95.2. Thank you.
Thank you, Ms. Niepie. Pleasure having you. Thank you.
Anyone else, members of
the public? Thanks for waiting. Sir, did you have something else to comment on? Okay, come on up.
Miss Manelli, can I have you fill out a card, please?
Joseph Muchelow. Thank you. Welcome back. Have been sworn in. Thank you. I was speaking to Bridget outside and she answered my questions, but I'll just bring it to the board. We need to see three traffic studies. One of the present, what's going on? One, if it's on the commercial, two, it's on the residential and they have to be compared and you have to do a growth study. So that's maybe a fourth one of what's going to happen over the next ten to twenty years before you people can make an intelligent decision and recommend it to the City Council.
That's my observation as a thirty year architect.
Thank Mr. Nell. We appreciate your comments and we have taken them under advisement.
Okay.
All right. And I also want to thank all the public who are watching at home and encourage you and your neighbors to come to the April 13 City Council meeting where the DRI will be viewed there. I believe that's a one p. M. Meeting here in Council Chambers. Thank you very much. Any other members of the public wish to speak? Yes. Wait, wait.
I have to go on the other side, Jim.
You're not a member of the public. I want to know if
we can leave badges.
Hold on.
Mr. Norton, I would just encourage any members of the public anticipating coming to the April 13 meeting to check the agenda and check with the city clerk's office before coming out and verify that the item is, you know still because on the just verify before you come out.
Right.
Okay.
Thank you Mary. You coming up? Come on up.
Okay. I think it's great about the wall at all, and I know a lot of people seem to think it's great. However, it's not gonna help the wildlife.
Okay.
It's not. You're gonna put the wall. There's nest there. I see them. Alright. There's beautiful life there. That wall is going to disturb their living area and mine.
Thank you. You. Again, as Ms. Savage said, please check the agenda items on the PSL, City of PSL website to make sure that April 13 that DRI is in fact on the agenda before coming out. And we always like to hear from the public and get their input. It's very important to us and very important to the City Council as well I'm sure. So with that Madam Clerk.
I just wanted to make a note that if you check the Wednesday before the meeting that's usually when the finalized version is publicized. So well, if you check then you'll know if the meeting is up is going through.
Okay. Make sure you check the agenda the Wednesday before the meeting. That's tomorrow. Tomorrow. Wednesday, the eighth. Okay? Thank you, everybody. With that, Pete, did you wait. Pete had something. Pete had something.
Pete I just wanna know if we should get badges. They wouldn't let us in. We had to get checked.
Well, you look suspicious, Pete.
I mean So,
Mary,
what is the what is
the new protocol?
So that's a great question. I'll run it up the chain and find out if our elected or appointed boards should have an ID so that you don't have to get a sticker every time. Right. Okay. I'll look into it and let you know.
Okay. Okay. Great. Alright. Alright. With that,
when do I have to go to the
With that, we're adjourned.
Mention that. Okay. Volunteer.
I can't talk no more.
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