City Council - Regular Meeting

Monday, July 27, 2026

The Port St. Lucie City Council discussed and tabled a rezoning request for the Riverland West Sports and Recreation MPUD due to resident concerns about noise and property use. The Council also approved several resolutions, including an increase in the upland habitat mitigation fee and the framework for a half-cent sales tax extension.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Port St. Lucie, FL
Meeting Date
July 27, 2026

Transcript

413 sections

0:14 – 0:31Speaker 28

Good evening, everyone. Welcome to our City of Port St. Lucie City Council meeting this Monday, July 27, 2026 at 6.01 p.m. Madam Clerk, please call the roll. Councilwoman Morgan. Yes, ma'am. Councilman Pickett. Yes, ma'am. Mayor Martin. Here, ma'am. Councilman Bonner.

0:32Speaker 28

Vice Mayor Caraballo. Here, ma'am. Please stand for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance.

0:41 – 1:00Speaker 25

Almighty God in heaven, we ask thy blessings upon those gathered here this evening and upon all of the citizens of Port St. Lucie. Look with favor on our leaders and give them the insights, the wisdom, and the patience to deal with the problems and tasks coming before them. Please bless their work and their deliberations. Amen. Amen.

1:01 – 1:14Speaker 26

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

1:23 – 1:36Speaker 28

SO ITEM 4A, WHICH IS THE HALF-CENT SALES TAX PROPOSAL, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE LAST ITEM, WHICH IS RESOLUTION 11L, COUNCIL.

1:39 – 2:38Speaker 28

Okay. Does it go hand in hand? Yep. All right. Thank you. Before we get to public to be heard, I'd like to share our standards of decorum that we follow here in council chambers, as outlined in section 11 of the council rules. Our meetings are to conduct business of the city, and we ask that all participants please uphold the principles of civility, honor, and dignity. When addressing the dais, please use proper language, direct all comments to the chair, and refrain from personal attacks, disruptive behavior, or the use of profanity. In addition, outbursts or applause are not permitted. Each speaker will have three minutes, and time may not be transferred from one to another. If any of the rules are disregarded, we will provide a warning, and after that, you may be asked to leave the chambers, and if necessary, may be removed under Florida law. We value and thank you for your participation and welcome your input. Mr. Reynolds, come forward, please.

2:42Speaker 5

HOW ARE YOU DOING?

2:43Speaker 28

GOOD. HOW ARE YOU?

2:43Speaker 5

GOOD. SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO DISCUSS THE PROJECTED LOSS ON REVENUE FOR YOU GUYS IS LIKE 50 MILLION, RIGHT? IS THIS TRUE?

2:54Speaker 28

SO PUBLIC TO BE HEARD IS FOR YOU TO SPEAK WITH US. AFTER PUBLIC TO BE HEARD IS OVER, THE COUNCIL CAN RESPOND. IT'S NOT A DIALOGUE, THOUGH, BACK AND FORTH.

3:03 – 3:25Speaker 5

Okay. Well, I just, yeah, I just really want to know if you guys had any ideas to make up for that revenue stream or if you guys plan on cutting services, um, or whatever services you're going to cut due to the loss of the revenue stream. Um, that's all I really want to know. Just you guys made your plan for that. If it does go through. Yeah, that's it. I'm good.

3:26Speaker 28

Thank you, sir. Yeah. Miss Spence.

3:43 – 6:35Speaker 21

good evening good evening I come before this Commission with some questions that I highly doubt I'll receive the answers to looking at the organizational information I was able to locate on the web it appears that the city is quite top-heavy but some employees receiving salary salaries that are double and triple of your frontline workers. When you're looking at over $100,000 for quite a few people, that's quite concerning. Maybe restructuring may be a way to save the city some money, get rid of some of the people that are in the middle. Can anybody tell us what the turnover rate is for this city? Because I noticed that a lot of jobs just keep reposting over and over again. Can we find out how many employees would you be willing to share with the community? How many employers are making over $100,000? annually let's see over the past few weeks the city employees there was meetings disguised as employee appreciating appreciation meetings where staff were told the negative impacts of voting in favor of amendment 3 could have including losing jobs with the city scare tactics does do not work I believe trying to scare your employees into vote no or you can lose your job that's not the right way to go they have the right to vote the way they want to vote I almost choked on my water at one of the meetings I was at a few months ago when I heard somebody speaking about the cost for the art fund that they have to pay whenever somebody is building something. The man with the church, I think you remember, he was building a church and you guys were going to look into it and they wanted almost $40,000 to be paid towards this art project. Is art really all that necessary when we're looking at the budgets the way they're going to be? Do they have to keep doing that to prevent people coming into the city building businesses if you're going to hit them with all these big impact fees? And then a while back I had a conversation with one of you commissioners. I will not say which one I spoke to. At the time I was informed during a city meeting one of you up there on the diocese answered a public question providing false information. After the meeting, the city commissioner that I was speaking to confronted the individual sitting up there about providing the false information and asked why they provided false information. And the answer that he got was it was what they wanted to hear. when i heard that my my chin almost hit the floor i had to keep my composure and just went along with it if you guys cannot stand up for the citizens and call somebody out when they are giving false information up there that is so wrong on every level and then i'm wondering for the last thing is eric's jacuzzi a spoiler candidate to try and pull votes for mr giordano just curious hannah galindo

6:49 – 9:08Speaker 18

Good evening. Hi. Give me one second. I apologize. My name is Hannah Galindo, and I am a resident here in Port St. Lucie. And I am standing before you tonight on behalf of a growing and deeply concerned coalition of your constituents. We are addressing the ongoing expansion and utilization of the flock safety license plate recognition cameras within our city. While fully understanding and supporting keeping Port St. Lucie safe, mass automated surveillance is the wrong path for our community. to show the deep concern residents across Port St. Lucie are actively signing a petition calling the council to abolish flock safety systems. What makes this issue especially frustrating is how our tax dollars are being sent. We are funding reoccurring subscription costs for an AI surveillance network while basic municipal improvements like restoring a twice a week trash collection are left behind. Our hard-earned money is being funneled into technology that directly violates our Fourth Amendment rights to be free for unreasonable tracking and warrantless searches. This isn't just a theoretical concern that TRAX records across the country. It proves how dangerous these systems are. Nationwide, we have seen numerous documented accounts of misuse, officers using the database to stalk ex-partners or monitor individuals for personal reasons, unauthorized data sharing across state borders, and frequent camera reading errors that have led innocent families being pulled over and detained at gunpoint. These cameras do not look for criminals. They log and store daily movements of our everyday law-abiding citizens who are a community of free people, not sheep to be tracked, tagged, and systematically monitored as we go about our daily lives. True community security is built on a robust, transparent, human-centered policing, not outsourcing our safety to third-party tech algorithms that treat everyday residents passing a camera like a suspect. Because of these consensual violations, the waste of tax dollars, and proven record of system misuse and errors, we urge this council to listen to its residents, halt any further expansion, and completely abolish the flock camera system in Port St. Lucie. Thank you for your time and your service to the city.

9:09Speaker 28

Thank you. Mr. Jean Baptiste.

9:24Speaker 29

Good evening.

9:25Speaker 17

Good evening.

9:27 – 11:15Speaker 29

My name is Anthony Jean-Baptiste. I am a candidate for City Council District 1. My main reason here is because I'm concerned for the safety and the future of our children, our grandchildren, and including the residents of Port St. Lucie. Lately, the city has been building all over, starting from tradition Floresta Drive, Torino Parkway, all over, particularly with commercial building. And on top of that, it's like we're spending money out of control. We're talking about building stadium, which is very unnecessary because we have one right now. It seems to me nobody's using it. And my biggest concern also is the heavy traffic. That's been going on and it's getting worse. I believe five years from now, Port St. Lucie will become just like Dead County and Broward County. So my concern is instead of spending all this money in these projects, I think the public has every right to know, to get involved. We need more transparency. We need to get the public involved because they're entitled for their own opinion, especially we are taxpayers. So this is why I'm here, just to address this issue, particularly with the commercial construction that's been going on all over, especially in tradition. So this is why I'm here. Thank you. Thank you.

11:23 – 14:14Speaker 4

Well, for starters, I would like to give you just a little bit of history about me so that I can make a few points. I got 33 years in being a diesel mechanic. I'm an ASC master diesel mechanic. I've been that for a good majority of my career. I'm an automotive ASC master mechanic, and I'm also an EBT mechanic, which means I've also worked at municipalities, which is part of the reason why I do not like municipalities. I've seen what they do with our tax dollars. That being said, One of the things I want to speak out about that, you've already had some people talk about infrastructure. As a mechanic, I can tell you that people have had to pay well over 50% higher because of all the damages done to their cars. You guys want to raise taxes and everything. What are you doing? Mayor, you're campaigning on better quality of life. I'm going to point out you're not. Anthony, you, when I called it out when I was arrested for parking in my own driveway... The meeting I pointed out and read the oath to you all that you take that you care nothing about. You assured everybody that I wasn't arrested for parking in my own driveway. I can't wait to see how much you're going to ruin the state because what you've done here is garbage. Okay? One of my customers lives down by PAR. All that construction. Oh, by the way, thanks for going down and speaking to the company over there. They told me about that. They cannot stand you politicians. They think you guys are ridiculous. You keep tying their hands and keep using garbage material. Not good. But my customer down there has lost over 36% because the plaza has been closed up half the time on one side or the other. That's one of our businesses, one of our residents. What are you doing about that? Obviously nothing like everything else. Okay. Um, I spoke to a gentleman today that I had lunch with, works for UPS, been here all his life. There was about 30 years ago, you guys did a half a tax percent from six to six and a half for the roads and for the sidewalks. Where's our sidewalks? I'm just asking. It's been almost 30 years. You're complaining about infrastructure and you're patting yourselves on the back for the tax cuts that you're doing. Where's our sidewalks that you were supposed to give us 30 years ago? Now, I know you're not there now, but you're supposed to be making changes. You haven't done that. None of you have. That's my point. You also are targeting people. You were at my next-door neighbor's hounding because he parks his work truck. You know what? Even the homeowners associations have realized that they've gone too far in infringing on our rights that are given to us by God. And, Anthony, you prance around like a great godly man. Why are you taking away our God-given rights? So are you. You want to stand up here and pray? Stop taking away our God-given rights and pretend you're praying. Those are our rights. Stop it.

14:18Speaker 28

Mr. Giordano? Yes.

14:27 – 17:21Speaker 9

Good evening, everybody. I mean, you guys are hearing it from the residents. Obviously, there's a lot of unpleasant residents here in Port St. Lucie, and I've seen a need, and that's why I stood up to run for mayor. My name is Steven Giordano, and I'm here tonight because I believe in the people of Port St. Lucie. They deserve transparency, accountability, and leadership that actually puts the residents first. We don't need any more politicians. With the possibility of the property tax reform reducing city revenues, this is not the time to panic. It's a time to prioritize. Before anybody talks about cutting services or asking taxpayers to pay more, we need to take a hard look at how City Hall is spending our money. One example is the city's commitment to reimburse up to $27.5 million for the soccer stadium project. Whether you support the professional soccer or not, residents deserve to know whether this is the right financial priority when we have traffic congestion, aging infrastructure, drainage issues in neighborhoods that need investing. Every major expenditure should be evaluated based on whether it serves the greatest needs of our community, not self-interest. Families across Port St. Lucie have to balance their budgets every month. City Hall should have the same standard. We should protect our police officers, our firefighters, our parks, and essential services by making smarter financial decisions. The people of Port St. Lucie deserve a government, excuse me, local government that is transparent, accountable, and focused on their priorities. It means putting residents before special interests, infrastructure before unnecessary spending, and accountability before excuses. Also, I'd like to bring, when we win as a community, the first homeless shelter here to Port St. Lucie. We don't have that. I think that the people of Port St. Lucie deserve leadership that makes the right decisions for the people, not developers. And we need to hold developers. You can look at me, Mayor. It's okay. We need to hold developers accountable for their fair share. You can go on the supervisors of elections website and you can look at her donations. You got over 80% of your donations are from developers and you're not holding them accountable. Our kids need streetlights. Our kids need sidewalks. I got special needs that come into my office and they're disappointed because you won't do the right thing. You know, this is like, it's so simple to hear what people want to do and then implement it. Make the changes for the people. Don't do them for yourself. It's called constructive criticism. Take accountability for your actions. Thank you.

17:24Speaker 28

Would anyone else like to address public to be heard?

17:27Speaker 4

Can I do more?

17:30Speaker 28

Seeing no one, I'll close public to be heard. Council?

17:34 – 18:13Speaker 26

I would like, Madam Mayor, Ms. Parmalee, because of the flock conversation, I would love Chief, if he is available, to address that. I don't see Jennifer in the room to address the soccer stadium, but there she is. I would love for her to address the soccer stadium. And then to Ms. Spence, in regards to salaries, I also have, I don't know if Natalie is here, but if not, Ms. Cabrera can reach out to Ms. Spence. directly. Um, and to the other comments that Ms. Spence made, I'm not aware there wasn't a lot of detail, but as always, you and I have met one-on-one before, so I'd be more than glad to discuss in the future, but if that's okay, I don't know if the council has anything else, but that's what I would like to start with. Thank you. Yep. Chief.

18:14 – 22:16Speaker 34

Good evening. Chief Nimsic. So flock cameras have been, um, getting a lot of attention on a national level for a lot of different reasons. One of the main things that have brought them to the forefront of attention is their utilization by ICE, which is a very polarizing situation. So I think it's important not to react defensively. I think it's important to react with an open mind and be objective. So I've been doing a lot of homework. As you know, we've been utilizing license plate readers back to about 2022. Long before I became the chief. So I haven't had cause recently because they've not been a point of concern to take a deep dive. So I've begun doing a lot of research and a lot of homework and making sure I separate the facts from the fiction. There is an awful lot of fiction being passed around on social media in the world right now. I can tell you we have three manufactured license plate readers in the city. One is Flock. We also have Axon cameras. We also have some Motorola cameras. None of ours utilize biometrics. None of them identify people inside vehicles. None of them capture cell phones, Bluetooth, anything of that nature. They're recording, taking a photograph of the rear of the car. and capturing the license plates, then it compares the license plate data to hot lists stored in NCIC. So those hot lists generally consist of stolen vehicles, amber alerts, silver alerts, things of that nature. As a former commander of Criminal Investigations Division, I can tell you that they're an extremely invaluable investigative tool. We have solved crime after crime after crime utilizing that information. Most recently, the homicide that we had in St. Lucie West in May, we solved that crime in under 24 hours and had all suspects under arrest in less than 48. I don't know if we'd still have that crime solved today had we not had our license plate readers in place. So they're incredibly valued. not to dismiss people's concerns. So I did take a deep dive into our policy. As you know, we're an accredited law enforcement agency. That means we have to follow all best practices and standards. We're nationally accredited by Kalia. So I took a deep dive into our policy, which was robust, and I did identify a couple of areas that I felt we could strengthen and tighten up, one area being our retention. So we did have the ability to do retention for up to a year, and I rolled that back to 30 days immediately because I determined that's best practice currently. Our policy was a bit outdated in that way. The other thing I did is I mandatory the audits that are done quarterly reported directly to me via chain memo. four times a year. And I also directed that we do spot check audits. And I appointed a lieutenant to be our license plate coordinator. I felt that a higher rank was required. So the policy, which I would be happy to share with the community, I think it's important so they can understand how we're managing it and how we're using that data. So I'm going to be looking for the most effective way to do that. I'm going to explore maybe just putting it on our website, making it available. and making myself as available as possible to answer questions. I know you all have been getting questions at your offices, and my office has been trying to answer questions. We've been getting a lot of records requests. But just, you know, it's something that's receiving an awful lot of interest. So I've reached out to each of the manufacturers that we utilize. I've requested a lot of information. I've been provided a lot of information. I'll be honest, I'm Gen X. I'm not a millennial. I'm not. IS GOOD ON A LOT OF THE TECHNOLOGY AS SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WORKING WITH US, BUT I'M DOING A DEEP DIVE LEARNING, MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE'S CONCERNS ARE AND MAKING SURE THAT I LOCK THEM DOWN BEST I CAN AND STAY OPEN-MINDED ABOUT IT. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER DIRECTLY.

22:17Speaker 28

ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? NO? OKAY.

22:21Speaker 34

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I REMAIN AVAILABLE TO ALL OF YOU IF ANYTHING COMES UP.

22:26 – 23:48Speaker 30

MS. DAVIS? Good evening. There was a question about the use of TIF revenue to reimburse the developer who is building the stadium. So TIF revenue is generated within the CRA and that revenue is incremental and it can only be used within the benefited area, which is the CRA. So I know there's been a lot of discussion and feedback about why can't we invest the CRA dollars, that TIF revenue, into other areas of the city and we're just not allowed to do that. What we are allowed to do is invest in economic development projects, invest in infrastructure within the CRA. Within our plan, our CRA plan, you'll actually see where we do have earmarked money to invest in infrastructure in the Eastern CRA. And specifically, the $27.5 million is a reimbursement that would be incrementally over a 20-year period, performance period, by the developer and the operator. And it doesn't start until a year after the stadium is complete. So we were very mindful of how that was structured over time so that even today, if they had not started construction, you know, in two years, they're not going to get any dollars from the city. Once they do complete their stadium and are operating for at least a year, they would get their first payment. And then every year thereafter, they would be eligible for that as long as they meet the criteria.

23:49Speaker 28

Is the city of Port St. Lucie paying for any part of the stadium whatsoever? We are not.

23:54Speaker 26

Madam Mayor, I have a question too. How much estimated revenue or how much estimated tax revenue is the stadium going to provide the CRA?

24:05 – 24:28Speaker 30

I WOULD NEED TO EVALUATE THAT. WE DID ONE FOR OVERALL WALTON IN ONE AND WHAT WE ANTICIPATED THAT THAT WOULD GENERATE AND WE WERE LOOKING SOMEWHERE IN THE TAXABLE VALUE INCREASE BETWEEN 300 AND 500 MILLION DOLLARS IN TAXABLE INCREASE JUST IN THAT QUADRANT. WE DID NOT BREAK IT DOWN BUT YOU COULD DO A CALCULATION. THEY'RE ESTIMATING THEIR INVESTMENT TO BE ABOUT $80 MILLION. SO WE COULD DO THAT CALCULATION.

24:28 – 25:26Speaker 26

I REMEMBER AND I COULD BE WRONG. I think back when we started the process, I think it was about six million is what I was told. So essentially, if the stadium doesn't build and if the stadium is not operating, it's not generating any tax revenue and therefore will not be reimbursed anything. Correct. That's correct. And so the other if the number is correct, I'm pretty sure it was six. Maybe someone else on the council remembers the same number. If it was six in the States, I think it was like 1.3 is what is estimated to be reimbursed annually over 20 years. So that other five million would go back into the CRA for reinvestment in the CRA, correct? Correct. And by law, Mr. City Attorney, Is the council allowed to utilize CRA TIF revenue for projects outside of the CRA associated with stormwater, road projects, or any other projects that the city would love to do? Because I know for a fact, I'm only one of five, I would love to take all the money generated in the CRA and spread it all over the city if I could, but am I allowed to do that?

25:27Speaker 8

No, Ms. Davis hit the nail on the head right away saying it's CRA funds and TIF revenue are only allowed to be used within the CRA area in question.

25:35 – 26:38Speaker 26

And I understand, listen, it's not an easy subject, it's a complicated subject. That deal, again, I commend staff. That is a very unique agreement that came forward. I would question whether any city in the state of Florida actually has a deal structured in the way that that's structured to ensure that the city does not end up getting the short end of the stick. And so I just encourage people to continue to ask questions, and I think we're more than welcome to answer them and provide that feedback. I also, Madam Mayor, just remembered that Mr. Reynolds also had a question. There was a two-day budget conference that this council just had. It's extensive information that we covered, but I want to make sure that Mr. Okia, who's our finance director, reaches out to you personally to answer all those questions and provide you the feedback of what was discussed. Because it's a very long topic, and I want you to have as much time as you need to get those answers as well. So I appreciate everyone. I appreciate everybody coming out and providing their feedback to the board. And as always, we're available if you have any further questions or would like to reach out to us. Thank you.

26:40Speaker 28

Any other comments?

26:43Speaker 26

Did you have something?

26:44Speaker 14

Sure. Jen. I had a couple of comments about the stadium, the questions about the stadium as well.

26:52Speaker 28

Yeah, come on back.

26:56 – 29:09Speaker 14

So I think really at the heart of it, and one of the reasons that this stadium was structured in such a way that is amazingly favorable to the city of Port St. Lucie, and I think part of the reason it was structured that way was because staff went into this knowing all of the damage that was done with VGTI and digital domain and those kind of deals that left taxpayers on the hook and guaranteed a private developer's debt. And so that did not happen in this case. And I want to make that abundantly clear that there is no scenario where the soccer team's failure would leave the city in any kind of debt on the backs of the taxpayers is that a fair statement to make that's correct okay and the scenarios just so that it's clear because there's a lot of confusion because of the history and because of the debt that we're still paying off from over a decade ago The only scenarios that can happen is either the stadium builds and is operational and successful over a 20-year period, in which case the economic benefit is incredible to the city. The stadium builds, opens, is successful for a few years, and then fizzles out. In that scenario, we have an $80 million facility that's turned over to us, and we have no further payments. So if they're here for three years, there's about $4.5 to $5 million of reimbursements, and we own an $80 million facility. And if they never build, they've posted a bond and we get to finish the project. So there's no situation where the city loses. And I don't think that that's very clear. Additionally, there are some other things in that contract that favor the city. We get half of the naming rights, correct? That's correct. And did we ever clarify whether the revenue that comes from naming rights needs to be used in the CRA or would it be... REVENUE FOR THE CITY.

29:09 – 29:21Speaker 30

WE HAVE NOT CLARIFIED THAT YET. WE HAVE A FEW OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK TO THE CRA BOARD FOR DISCUSSION, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER BENEFITS THAT THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE FOR USE OF THE STADIUM SITE AND ALL THAT. SO WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK.

29:21 – 29:45Speaker 14

BUT AT ITS WORST, IT WOULD REDUCE THE $27.5 MILLION REIMBURSEMENT. SO THE REIMBURSEMENT WOULD NOT EVEN BE NEAR $27.5 MILLION IF WE CAN GENERATE NAMING RATES REVENUE. CORRECT. AND AS A PART OF THIS AGREEMENT, the developer is required to make certain infrastructure and improvements to accommodate traffic and public safety. And does the developer pay for those?

29:46Speaker 30

The developer will pay for those, yes, or the operator of the stadium.

29:49 – 30:07Speaker 14

Okay, so the city's going to get benefits in terms of infrastructure and public safety and ingress and egress as a result of this deal that we are not paying for. And so when you add it up, it's a very favorable scenario for the city. So I just want to be very clear about that.

30:08 – 30:26Speaker 26

THANK YOU. SINCE YOU SAID THAT, I JUST THOUGHT OF ONE MORE QUESTION I FORGOT TO ASK. WHAT'S THE AMOUNT OF BOND? SO IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO BUILD, NOW THAT THE DEAL HAS BEEN AGREED TO, WHAT IS THE BOND AMOUNT TO BUILD STATEM THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO, WE WOULD BE PROVIDED? SO IT'S 120%. SO 120% OVER WHAT THEY COMMITTED TO?

30:26Speaker 30

THE CONSTRUCTION VALUE.

30:27 – 32:57Speaker 26

OKAY. JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT, TOO, SO WE ALSO HAVE A BOND TO COVER IF THEY DECIDE NOT TO BUILD. I appreciate you going down the rabbit hole even further because it is something that is talked about widely. I've said it. I'm sure some people feel this way. I don't know anything about the game of soccer. It's not my forte. And I personally only am excited for the purpose of the residual economic development. the future of retail, the future of restaurants, and the ability to provide what the residents have been always promised for that particular site in 30 plus years. For some people that may have not been here for a long time, and maybe just moved to Port St. Lucie in the last few years, that area was supposed to be similar to what you see in Abacoa. It was supposed to be an area that generated ability for us to go to restaurants and be able to shop locally and keep our money local instead of going to Jensen. For me, that I grew up in the east side, it keeps me from going all the way to Tradition. I love Tradition. Tradition is great. But I would love to have things over on our side of the city because we're so big. And I think that's been a dream of the residents, and they were promised that. And unfortunately, when it went under with that developer, it was devastating to the city. That just sat there empty for 30 years. And now we have this amazing opportunity, and they put together this great contract that I feel that is going to be very – successful either way for us and I think we're going to actually see finally something that's depreciating because if you haven't been on US 1 recently, I've been on US 1 a lot. I'm there all the time and those buildings aren't getting any better. Those storefronts aren't getting more filled. They're only getting less filled. When you look at Village Green, my husband is also from the automotive industry. When you look at US 1 and you look at Village Green and you see all of those businesses, I see how the challenges are of staying open and being able to maintain when you have all this new stuff coming up on the west side. And so I just really feel that it's going to really help our community. And like I said, I understand the challenges. And like you said, Councilman Bono, the past and the consternation of how we look at that from the past perspective. But I think you guys did a good job. So thanks. Councilwoman Pickett, go ahead.

32:58Speaker 22

Jennifer, can you talk about how many days the city gets to use that stadium?

33:01Speaker 30

Sure. The contract identifies 24 event days per year that the city would be eligible to use the facility.

33:10Speaker 28

Any other comments? Okay. Madam Clark, can you please briefly go over how street lights work, the street lighting program works in the city?

33:21 – 34:38Speaker 25

Yes, ma'am. So per our code, we have on our website where any owner of a property on any given residential street in the city of Port St. Lucie can put in a request for residential street lighting. We then process that, provide them with a potential mapping of who would benefit from the street lighting of that street. They then would need to get 25% of those residents identified on board, essentially, through a petition process. Once that petition is successful, we then send a ballot to all of the property owners identified in that boundary. And then depending on the ballots returned, it is 50% plus one determines whether or not we go forward with the lights or the boundary has failed. We then send that, the successful boundaries annually, we send those to FPNL for installation. It is currently a $26 fee attached to the property taxes. That fee does not go to the City of Port St. Lucie. That fee is for the maintenance and the utilities to run the lights through FPNL.

34:40 – 35:13Speaker 28

So, in essence, the residents get to decide if they want streetlights on their street already, and that has been a long-standing, ongoing program with the City, right? Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Cole, can you come up and confirm the number of miles of sidewalks that the city has installed in the last four years and also the number, the miles of roads that have been repaved in the last four years? If you remember off the top of your head, if not, I know the answer, but you're the public works director.

35:15 – 35:39Speaker 10

Thank you, Coltsworth, Public Works Director. So I can tell you right now for just sales tax alone, since inception in 2018, we've installed 13.7 miles of sidewalks. We've also installed roughly another mile on top of that out of the road and bridge per year on average, give or take. As far as roadways, same for since inception of the sales tax in 2018, we've paved over 104 miles of roadways.

35:40Speaker 28

And that's just for sales tax, right? Correct. So the number I know in total is about 221 miles.

35:47Speaker 10

That sounds about accurate, correct. I would have to pull up the plan, but I can pull that up right away.

35:52Speaker 28

Okay, thank you very much.

35:55 – 39:00Speaker 26

Madam Mayor, and I want to answer the question too directly in fairness is there has been an initiative to do sidewalks, and this is before I was even on the council. The goal, the first goal of our sidewalks was to actually focus on our main arterials. for the purposes of connection, because I don't know if you remember, but there was a lot of times where there was missed connections within the city of Port St. Lucie, and when we had the last downturn, unfortunately there was a lot of sidewalks that were left unfinished, and so you had a lot of these gaps. So the first goal of the council back then was to ensure that all sidewalk connections occurred, and the focus started with the schools first, to make sure that all those schools had arterial connections to be able to get our kids safely to be able to walk back and forth to school. And then after that, I think the council has a preliminary estimate from public works in regards to when we'll be able to get off the focus of the connection of the arterials and then begin to discuss the future of inner streets. Because there are some cities that have inner streets, but since Port St. Lucie was built by GDC, There was no plans to actually put sidewalks into the city. And so we've always been playing catch up with that. The next question then becomes to the residents is what is that going to look like for the future? Do we want street connection? Is it going to be similar like the streetlight program where some people are going to want sidewalks? I've actually met residents that do not want sidewalks in the front of their house. I think it's weird. I like sidewalks, but some people don't want it, just like they don't want streetlights. They don't want that either. And so it's trying to find that balance of what you're trying to do to make people happy without shoving it down their throat, too. So I think the arterioles is a good one. I think that's important to make sure that people have connections to the main areas where they're trying to go. And then I think once we get to that, which I think we don't have a lot left there, do we, with main arterioles? I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN THE NEXT SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN THAT'S GOING TO MAP OUT THE REST OF THE AREAS THAT WE NEED. AND THERE WAS ONE MORE THING. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. OH, TRANSPARENCY. I THINK IMPORTANT TO SHARE TOO IS FLORIDA OUT OF ALL 50 STATES LITERALLY HAS THE STRICTEST TRANSPARENCY LAWS WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC RECORDS AS WELL AS SUNSHINE. out of all 50 states. And so if you have questions, you are more than welcome to ask, and you are required to give the answer. But as you can see, just in this conversation and just the statements that were made and the questions that were made, look at the amount of time we've spent explaining. There's a lot of information to know. When you're in a city as big as ours, we're the third largest in land size, sixth largest in population. There's a ton of people, a ton of services, a ton of things that we do. Sometimes what doesn't feel transparent is just that level of information you have. And so when you have that level of information, and we have a lot of it on our website, it's just so overwhelming that sometimes people just, you can't see it all at one time, right? But if you have questions, all you have to do is send an email. You can send an email to the council office. You can send an email to our city clerk. And that's a public record, and we'll be more than glad to answer those questions that you have at any point in time. Thank you.

39:01 – 39:57Speaker 28

And unfortunately, there was a lot of misinformation that was discussed at the podium tonight. And so I would encourage anyone, if you have any questions of me or the council whatsoever, my office number is 871-5159. I'm available by email. I'm available by phone. And I'm happy to answer each and every single question that anyone has about the city of Port St. Lucie or even about my reelection campaign. We don't campaign from the dais here. That is inappropriate. We're here to do city business. But if you want to reach out to me personally, I'm happy to speak to anyone and everyone. So thank you very much. Moving on to additions and deletions to the agenda and approval of the agenda. We've been requested to table item 10B, add items 4A, 7K, 11K, and 11L.

40:02Speaker 23

Mayor, staff is requesting to table item 7B as well, please. Okay.

40:07Speaker 26

Okay. Motion to approve the agenda with item 10B, 4A, 7B, 7K, 11K, and 11L tabled. No.

40:18Speaker 28

No, we're tabling 10 B and seven B. Yeah.

40:22 – 40:42Speaker 26

I said four a seven B seven K that's adding. Oh, that's adding. So we're tabling two items. Okay. That's why. Okay. So request the item table seven B 10 B seven B with the addition of items for a seven K 11 K and 11. Oh, it's a run on sentence.

40:42 – 41:13Speaker 28

Yes, sir. Uh, second second. Okay. I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. So approval of consent agenda, we've tabled item 7B and 7K already. Does any other member of council have any other item that they would like to remove for a separate discussion? If not, is there a motion?

41:13Speaker 20

Move approval.

41:16 – 41:31Speaker 28

I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. MOVING ON TO SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES, 8A, ORDINANCE 26-67.

41:32 – 42:27Speaker 25

IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT REGULATION BOOK AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR LEGACY PARK NORTH AT SOUTHERN GROVE, MPUD, LOCATED WEST OF INTERSTATE 95, EAST OF SOUTHWEST VILLAGE PARKWAY, AND BETWEEN MARSHALL PARKWAY AND SOUTHWEST HEGNER DRIVE, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. thank you council motion to approve ordinance 26-67 second i have a motion and a second any discussion all those in favor aye any opposed motion carries 8b ordinance 26-69 an ordinance of the city of port st lucie florida relating to upland habitat mitigation payment in lieu of preservation amending Section 157.06, providing for codification, providing for conflict, providing for severability, and providing an effective date. Thank you. Is there a motion?

42:28Speaker 22

Motion to approve Orders 26-69. Second.

42:31Speaker 28

I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.

42:38 – 43:04Speaker 25

8C, Ordinance 26-70. An ordinance of the City of Port St. Lucie, Florida, abandoning a portion of a 20-foot-wide rear utility and drainage easement affecting Lot 2, Block 1170, Port St. Lucie, Section 8, according to the plat thereof, as recorded in Plat Book 12, page 38 of the Public Records of St. Lucie County, Florida, providing for conflict, providing for severability, and providing an effective date. Thank you. Council, is there a motion?

43:05Speaker 14

Motion to approve Ordinance 2670.

43:07Speaker 28

Second. I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.

43:15 – 43:44Speaker 25

8D, Ordinance 26-71. An ordinance of the City of Port St. Lucie, Florida, abandoning a portion of a 20-foot wide rear utility and drainage easement affecting Lot 16, Block 719, Port St. Lucie section 18, according to the plat thereof, as recorded in plat book 13, pages 17, 17A through 17K, of the public records of St. Lucie County, Florida, providing for conflict, providing for severability, and providing an effective date. Thank you. Council, is there a motion?

43:45Speaker 22

Motion to approve ordinance 26-71.

43:48 – 44:18Speaker 28

Second. I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Moving on to item 10, first reading of ordinances. So items 10A, 10C, 11A, and 11B are all quasi-judicial items. So anyone who is going to provide any testimony on these items, I'll read them again. 10A, 10C, 11A, and 11B, please stand and be sworn in by the clerk.

44:21Speaker 1

Hold on one second, sir.

44:23Speaker 3

Go ahead. Thank you.

44:46Speaker 28

So the item is tabled. I can have you, if you still want to speak, I can have you speak after this item.

45:02Speaker 28

Madam clerk, please read the ordinance for 10 a, which is ordinance 26 dash 68.

45:07 – 45:18Speaker 25

An ordinance of the city of port St. Lucy amending the master sign program for Sundance port St. Lucy, providing for conflict, providing for severability and providing an effective date. Thank you. Counsel.

45:18Speaker 28

Are there any ex parte communications to disclose?

45:22Speaker 28

No, no for me either.

45:23 – 47:49Speaker 17

Okay, go ahead. Good evening, Council, Madam Mayor. Marissa Dabry-Latchman, Planning and Zoning Department. I have been sworn in and the official file packet was provided to the clerk at least five days prior to this meeting. Madam Clerk, please enter the file into the record. The item before you tonight is an amendment to the Sundance PSL Master Sign Program. This is the First Amendment P25001-A1. The owner is ACR Acquisitions LLC, and the applicant is Haley Ward. And the project is located east of Range Line Road and north of the C-23 Canal. As I said before, this is the First Amendment to the Master Sign Program. This is the affected area outlined on the map. And here is an aerial photograph. The property is under development at the moment. There's Becker Road to the south and the C24 canal in Martin County to the south. We have county property to the west and we have vacant property to the east. The master sign programs are a mechanism for applicants to customize the signage allowances for their project in lieu of following the city code. Many of the larger projects in the city have master sign programs. The Sundance PSL Master Sign Program provides signage regulations for all of the development within the Wilson Grove development of regional impact. The primary focus of the proposed amendment is to change the size and number of temporary signs, mainly feather flags, allowed in the open space tracks within the development. The existing MSP allows for 17 foot high temporary signs with four square feet. The amended MSP would allow for 20-foot signs with 50 square feet. This equates to approximately 2.5-foot wide sign. The setback from public right-of-ways are proposed to be 10 feet and 5 feet from a private road right-of-way. The Planning and Zoning Board recommended approval of the Master Sign Program Amendment at their July 11, 2026 meeting. This is the end of the presentation. I do believe the applicant is here if you have any questions. Thank you. Any questions for staff? No, Madam Mayor.

47:52 – 48:24Speaker 28

Does the applicant wish to make a presentation? No? Okay. This item is a public hearing. Would anyone like to address the council on this item? Seeing no one, I'll close the public hearing. Council? Motion to approve ordinance 26-68. Second. I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Okay, 810B was tabled. Moving on to 10C, Ordinance 26-73.

48:25 – 49:06Speaker 25

An ordinance to rezone approximately 33.23 acres of property generally located south of Southwest Discovery Way east of Southwest Sundance Vista Boulevard for parcels of land legally described in Section 9 of the attached composite Exhibit A from the zoning designation of St. Lucie County Agricultural TO THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF RIVERLAND WEST SPORTS AND RECREATION, MPUD, FOR A PROJECT KNOWN AS RIVERLAND WEST SPORTS AND RECREATION, MPUD, PROVIDING FOR THE APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF AN MPUD CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN AND REGULATION BOOK, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU.

49:06Speaker 28

COUNCIL, ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DISCLOSE?

49:10Speaker 14

I SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANT.

49:14Speaker 28

All right, go ahead.

49:18 – 53:19Speaker 6

Good evening, Madam Mayor, Madam Vice Mayor, Council, staff. The item before you now is the Riverland West Sports and Recreation MPUD rezoning. For the record, Francis Foreman with the Planning and Zoning Division. I have been sworn in, and the official city packet has been given to the city clerks five days prior to this meeting. Madam Clerk, if you could please enter that file into the record. The applicant for this application is Islina Goldstein with Riverland Kennedy 2 LLC, with the property owners being Riverland Kennedy 2 LLC and the City of Port St. Lucie. This site is located south of Southwest Discovery Way, east of Southwest Sundance Vista Boulevard, which was previously known as North South A. The request is to rezone approximately 33.23 acres of land from St. Lucie County Agricultural to Riverland West Sports and Recreation MPUD. These maps show a general location and as well as an aerial of the overall subject area with the subject site being outlined here in yellow. The overall area does have a land use currently of new community development or NCD as well as compatible zoning district of MPD or master plan unit development. Again as stated, the overall area does have NCD and an MPUD zoning district for the existing Riverland Kennedy developments in the area. The Riverland West Sports and Recreation MPUD again is approximately 33.23 acres and is located again in that Riverland DRI. This site is on a designated neighborhood village commercial designation, which allows a mixture of residential and non-residential uses, such as commercial and offices, personal and household services, institutional public facilities, parks, playgrounds, and other similar services that are intended to serve the overall neighborhoods in the surrounding area. Any neighborhood village commercial area must contain at least two of those uses as a minimum that they have to contain. Currently, the Riverland West Sports and Recreation MPUD is proposing to provide about 135,000 square feet of indoor recreation with some commercial as well as some outdoor RV boats and storage areas for the residents of the Riverland area. I just want to state again that this is a rezoning, so this is just a list uses that are going to be allowed within this area this isn't the actual site plan there are no detailed information as what is being proposed there now this is just the allowances of the uses that could possibly go into this area this would be the same as if you were to rezone any other property in the general city as to like a general commercial zoning district it's just the allowable uses that could be allowed on the property Within the MPUD document, there is exhibit 17, which is the conceptual plan. This is just the outlined area of the overall MPUD and where this MPUD will be located. As stated previously, the subject property is located within the Riverland Kennedy DRI and is within the designated neighborhood village commercial sub-district as depicted on a map H of the Riverland DRI and figure one five of the future land use element. Policy 1224 of our comprehensive plan designates the uses that are allowed within the neighborhood village commercial areas, as well as the minimum amount of uses that are allowed for each sub-district that is in our comp plan. THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT REVIEWED THE REQUEST WITH CONSISTENCIES AND DIRECTIONS AND INTENT OF THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND POLICIES OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED MPUD REZONING AND REGULATION BOOK AT THEIR JULY 7TH MEETING. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR STAFF AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH A PRESENTATION AS WELL.

53:20Speaker 28

ANY QUESTIONS?

53:21 – 53:37Speaker 22

GO AHEAD. Looking at your rendition there, what's the distance of the FPNL easement? The reason I ask is because I've received some emails from residents talking about how close it's going to be to the property. If that's the FPNL easement on the backside of that property, what's that distance?

53:40Speaker 6

The width of the easement or the distance to the easement? I don't have that number off the top of my head.

53:46 – 53:57Speaker 22

I can get that number while the... The one in Trino, the reason I'm asking is approximately 250, 300 feet. Does that sound about right? That sounds about accurate, correct?

53:59 – 54:10Speaker 19

Yes, Councilman Pickett, it's about 200 feet. I know Ms. Goldstein has the specific numbers, so I think we could let her give you the exact measurement. I think the easement's 200 feet wide. Thank you.

54:11Speaker 28

Any other questions?

54:12 – 54:58Speaker 26

Madam Mayor. Yes. So I'm sure you said that you got emails. I have several emails. First, I want to make sure that the clerk provides these emails to the applicant because a lot of this has to do with a future slight plan or if it passes a future slight plan. So I want to make sure that they have the information to know. Mr. City Attorney, I know that we did the quasi-judicial swearing in. I think it's important for the public to understand how does the quasi-judicial process work? What is this body doing? And then what is this item and what are we allowed to consider? Because I'm sure there's people that are signed up to public to be heard. If they want to speak, I want them to speak. I just want them to know exactly what we're doing here tonight. Thank you.

54:59 – 56:19Speaker 8

Understood. So Mr. Foreman actually kind of touched on it earlier. So this is a rezoning. And I think what you're alluding to with regard to what the scope of the conversation is, is that rezoning is limited to what pretty much Mr. Foreman presented. not part of it are things like landscaping, indoor, outdoor features or specifics of what it will ultimately be. And so those things are better suited for the site plan process. That being said, Can't prevent the public from speaking on items, obviously, but with regard to what the process is like for quasi-judicial, the legislators here take off their legislator hat, they put on their judge robes, and then testimony is given under oath, and it's limited to taking that sworn testimony and the facts presented and applying them to a specific problem. In this instance, that specific problem is the request for rezoning. And that is generally how it works like I said there is a public public to be heard component to this that you know We can't really prevent anyone from speaking on these items But as far as the evidence that has to be weighed if it's not necessarily relevant to the topic at hand Yes, the council can hear it, but they don't necessarily They're not necessarily allowed to consider that To go towards the weight of their determination because it would be improper at this stage

56:21 – 56:41Speaker 26

Thank you. No, that, that helps. I just really wanted it clarified because I know some, I've read some of the stuff and I definitely want to make sure that that gets back if this passes for a site plan discussion. Um, but I just want to make sure that, you know, ahead of time that there's things that we can consider and there's things that we cannot consider because this is a different type of process. Thanks. Okay.

56:41 – 57:04Speaker 14

Uh, yes. Thank you, Mr. City Attorney. Just as a, as a follow-up to your comments, um, You said that there was evidence that we had to weigh and those kind of things. What can you can you go into more detail specifically about what evidence is allowed to be weighed and what evidence is not allowed to be made is a rezoning discretionary or what property rights are.

57:05 – 57:50Speaker 8

are granted here kind of can you give a bit more because I know we're supposed to weigh this evidence but what is that evidence I think would give a little bit clearer picture right with regard to the deep dive of this particular application in the history I think planning is more equipped to talk about entitlements and the like but if there are entitlements on the property There's always a question of, right, those entitlements pre-existed this application, and so the council may be limited in what they can determine given pre-existing development rights, et cetera. I don't want to talk out of turn on that. I'll rely on kind of the historical knowledge of planning and zoning on that. With regard to the evidence itself, right, you are the arbiters, you weigh them, you weigh that evidence with regard to the rezoning as kind of gone over by planning and zoning in the application.

57:55Speaker 26

I think that's a good segue.

57:55Speaker 28

Are you good? Councilwoman Bottoms?

57:58Speaker 26

Well, all right. Yeah. I didn't know if you wanted to explain it. I think it's good to talk about the entitlements. That way people understand what the entitlements are.

58:07 – 58:50Speaker 19

So one of the overreaching documents for this piece of land is the DRI. That talks about what's going to be built there. It's a broad document. We also have the comprehensive plan. And as staff testified, this rezoning was found to be consistent with the comprehensive plan. Comprehensive plan follows the DRI. So those are the roadmaps for how the section of the city is intended to develop. So that would be what you would be looking at, as well as the totality of what the applicant submitted, showing what their intended use is there, and then you look at that and you see how that aligns with the comp plan and the DRI.

58:51 – 59:09Speaker 26

And if you're confused yet, I understand. It's a lot. It's not our process. It's the way it's legally required by the state, and this is the way this has to be done. So apologies for that. It's not... DEFINITELY NOT THE SIMPLEST THING FOR ANYBODY.

59:09Speaker 28

AND A DRI IS A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT, CORRECT?

59:15 – 1:00:35Speaker 19

You're correct. And for the people listening, the council frequently says a lot of the entitlements in parts of the city were granted previous. We have roadmaps, development of regional impacts. We have several in the city. And those lay out how years ago it was proposed that the city would develop in some areas. they were approved and there's vested rights associated with those. And part of the process of them building it out is for the customer, the applicant to come back to you and they change their land use and they change their zoning and then they have to get a site plan approval and show how all of the water works and the pipes connect and there's a landscape plan. Right now we're at the rezoning and the zoning says within this section of property, MR. FRANCIS EXPLAINED IT VERY WELL. HERE'S A LIST OF USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED ON THIS PROPERTY, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT USES. NOW, THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, HAS A CONCEPT OF WHAT THEY MIGHT BUILD, BUT ULTIMATELY, WE'LL REVIEW THEIR USES WHEN THEY COME IN FOR THEIR SITE PLAN. THIS IS JUST TELLING YOU, COUNCIL, COUNCIL, WE WOULD LIKE TO REZONE TO THIS, AND HERE'S OUR INTENTION TO INSTALL USES OF THIS TYPE ON THIS PROPERTY. and that's what you're contemplating.

1:00:35 – 1:00:56Speaker 28

Thank you. Okay. Any other questions? No? Okay. Does the applicant wish to make a presentation? Good evening.

1:00:56 – 1:05:31Speaker 31

Good evening. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS ISLENA GOLDSTEIN. I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE AND AGENT FOR THE LANDOWNERS, THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE AND RIVERLAND KENNEDY. AND SO, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS FOR OUR MPUD REZONING APPLICATION FOR OUR RIVERLAND WEST SPORTS AND RECREATION MPUD PROJECT NUMBER P26-046. So as discussed by Mr. Francis Foreman, our item before you is essentially, it's a straightforward rezoning. And before we can proceed any further in the development of our lands within our DRI property, we are required to rezone the subject property from the county's SLC AG 5 zoning designation to the city's MPUD zoning. And so as city staff, like beautifully covered, this MPD application is fully consistent with the city's comprehensive plan, as well as our Riverland Kennedy DRI development order. And to refresh everyone's recollection, like here is the location to provide the context of where our project site is located. And we have approximately 4,000 acres that comprise our Riverland Kennedy DRI property within the Southwest annexation area of the city. This rezoning is also part of the final steps that's required under our October 2022 parks agreement where Riverland Kennedy constructed and delivered at no cost to the city the public recreational amenities for the city's Riverland Paseo Park. And as you can see on this map, the MPUD property is positioned south of the city's reverse osmosis utility site and between two of our existing active adult Riverland communities, which are Valencia Grove and Valencia Vista, our newest neighborhood that recently had its grand opening. And more specifically, and to address Councilman Pickett's point, to the east of our MPD property site is a 200-foot wide FPL easement together with an approximate 30-foot buffer as well that separates the Valencia Grove property from the MPD property. And to the west of the MPD property is Sundance Vista Boulevard, also known as, or formerly known as, NSA. And so the neighborhood commercial development program that's proposed for this project site is planned intentionally to serve our existing residents, our future residents at Riverland, as well as the broader western area of the city. And as you know, an MPUD establishes the zoning framework for those uses that can be planned for the development of a specific area. All of the details for the actual development of a site plan within the MPUD, and as a city attorney, Mr. Berrios, had stated, the design, whether it's the placement of the buildings or other improvements or buffering and landscaping, et cetera, those are handled and determined at the site plan stage. All of the details of the actual development of a site, you know, that is not before city council today. Tonight's requested action by city council concerns only a rezoning from the county's St. Lucie Ag 5 to the city's MPUD rezoning, and as determined by city staff, as well as unanimously approved by the PNZ board, it is consistent with the direction and intent of the city's comprehensive plan, as well as our Riverland Kennedy DRI development order. And so it should also be noted, especially for those that are out in the public and including those 6,000 plus residents that are not here, our goal is to prepare and process quickly as possible a site plan for the initial record, recreational amenities that will serve our residents and there is definitely an excitement about getting those site plan before you but and as well as under construction but again we need to go forward with this rezoning and get that approved before we can get to that next stage of site plan and so with that mayor and city council i'd like to reserve any comment for myself and my colleague jeff brophy who's here with me to respond to any questions or concerns that may be raised Thank you.

1:05:32 – 1:05:53Speaker 28

Any questions for Mr. Wolfstein at this time? Thank you. I'm going to open the public hearing. Mr. Reardon. Good evening.

1:05:55 – 1:09:01Speaker 12

Good evening, good evening city council members. Thank you for affording me the opportunity and the time to speak with you this evening. My name is Jim Reardon. I live at 13484 Southwest River Rock Road, Port St. Lucie. My property is located at the southern end of the proposed Riverland West Sports and Recreation Center, project number P26-046. I spoke at a July 7, 2006 zoning planning board meeting. Mr. Norton, the chairman, encouraged me to meet with Ms. Golstein, which I did after the meeting. The following day, she followed up with an email giving me her contact information. At that time, I gave her basically what our primary concerns were with the project moving forward. On Friday, she did contact me. But none of those concerns were addressed at that time. As a matter of fact, what she did say is exactly what she said right now, is this is not the time. The time is later. But we feel this is the time before we move forward. It's interesting, at this point they said that this property had to be multi-use. And I believe originally it did have a multi-use purpose. It was a park and small businesses there. That's the multi-use purpose of that. They're asking you to get rid of that and now build their sports complex. Now remember, there's 1,300 other acres out there where they could build this sports complex and not take the city land. So let me continue with that. GL has already sold parcels in the VISTA, in the new section, advertising the new fitness center. I provided you pictures of it. And it's kind of amazing. I think it's putting the cart before the horse. They've already said this is the future site. So I guess it's a done deal. based on this picture and what they're advertising to the people that they sold parcels of land to. We purchase our property, as well as every citizen here, this evening from the Grove, with the understanding that this parcel of land will be a city park. I also provided you copies of the 2020, 2021, and 2022 advertisements from GL. They basically said what this was going to be to us. This is what they sold us. It was a multi-use piece of property, a city park, as well as the small businesses that were going to be there. And we didn't know what that was. But we bought it because we knew what it was going to be. Now they're turning around and basically trying to make this something different. So I would not have purchased my property in 2021 knowing this health club would be built. I ask the council at this time to basically reject this proposal moving forward. And I believe that this council giving up 25 acres, which originally went for city parks, to be a health club open only to Riverland residents, is not in the spirit of what this council should be doing this evening. Thank you very much for your time this evening.

1:09:01Speaker 28

Thank you, sir. Mr. Mr Watkins.

1:09:29 – 1:11:00Speaker 32

Hello, my name is Carl Watkins. I was going to say same as him, but will add. I'm a GL Holmes owner and I live in a resident of Valencia the neighborhood of Riverland. We live just across the street from the western berm of Valencia Grove in the area that this proposed fitness center and pickleball courts, from the information we've gotten through GL, pickleball courts would be built. As a resident of Riverland, although I'm grateful for GL Homes wants to add more amenities, I have major concerns about the noise and the mitigation, noise mitigation on when it concerns the pickleball courts in particular. Currently, the western edge of the property is divided by a small berm, a chain link fence, and some vegetation, which a lot of has died due to the freeze we had this past January. Also, light mitigation and security are concerns of the residents. I strongly urge GL Homes to install noise mitigation fencing of some type to keep the noise from from the down to a minimum. I haven't. I have used a noise meter near the current pickleball courts and also in our house outside in the screen line, which we enjoy spending time in. The noise decibel level levels are 10 to 12 decibels higher near the pickleball courts than it is currently at our in our line. Thank you.

1:11:01Speaker 28

Thank you, sir. Miss Gallus.

1:11:12 – 1:12:56Speaker 16

Good evening. Hi. Hi. My name's Harriet Gallus. I also live in Riverland in the Grove. My husband and I moved to Riverland about four years ago. We chose to come here for quality of life. We wanted calm. We wanted relaxation. We wanted no snow. And we've gotten everything we want. We love where we live. When we bought our house, we were told there was going to be a park over the berm next to us. And that gives me pause because they're talking 72 pickleball courts, bocce courts, tennis courts, a dog park, an RV park, and God knows what else. And that's going to destroy my quality of life. The noise. is going to be noise pollution is a real thing. It's documented, it's out there, it causes harm, it causes stress, it causes anxiety. And pickleball noise is at a whole other level because pickleball, it's repetitive, it's loud, it's stabbing, it's sharp, and it goes on for hours every day. There's no release from it. I respectfully beg you to not pass this zoning, this rezoning. Riverland has, what did they say, 4,000 acres? I know some of it's in use, but they have many acres that they could relocate. So it's not adjacent to homes where it's going to affect our quality of life. I would guess that most people who move to Riverland move for the quality of life. That recreation center will destroy it. Thank you for listening to my words. Thank you, ma'am.

1:12:58 – 1:13:12Speaker 28

Mr. Gallas? Good evening.

1:13:12 – 1:15:42Speaker 33

Good evening. I'll just lift this up a bit. Mayor Martin and Council, thank you for letting us speak about this particular issue. With regard to Project P26046, I have some questions. In the public information, the project describes mitigating lightning by various means to reduce glare and relieve discomfort from various residences. It does not discuss or mention the concern of noise mitigation by having 70-plus pickleball courts, pocketball courts, tennis ball courts being used 12 hours or more every day. In addition to the sounds, players and spectators may subject us to additional noise. What are their intentions to mitigate this problem? With regard to this plan, none of the plans shown to us during our buying period years ago or currently showed anything other than a park. When did this change? When did GL decide that their decisions were superior to our enjoyment of a quality of life that their own brochures described? My wife and I spent 60 years raising a family and to provide a place to enjoy the pleasures of peace and quiet in a retirement community where we have met some incredible people. Now GL has placed us and over 100 homes in the unenvious position of not being able to thoroughly enjoy our lanais and outside grounds so they can fulfill their need to go back on their word, ask for different terms instead of just a park, and subject the gross residents to accept their concept and idea of peace and quiet. It affects us, senior citizens looking for the quiet life. With regard to timing, Why bring this project up now when many, many residents are gone for the summer? Is it to minimize any opposition from residents to voice their concerns? This project, more than likely, will also impact the value of our homes, affecting resale values which could cost the city revenue in terms of taxes. Better that they should have been honest brokers and up front come to the grove with the project so we could have raised questions and gotten answers that perhaps would have led us to a buy-in from instead of bitter opposition. I'd like to thank you for letting us come here to share our concerns. Please ask yourself the question, would I want this in my backyard in its current form? Thank you very much.

1:15:42Speaker 28

Thank you, sir. Ms. Watkins?

1:15:58 – 1:19:50Speaker 27

GOOD EVENING. HI. I'M A RESIDENT OF VALENCIA GROVE IN RIVERLAND. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS. I'M QUESTIONING THE PROCESS OF ASKING CITY HALL TO APPROVE OR CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE REZONING OR IS IT JUST A FORMALITY? I'm not sure if they're aware of the residents' concerns and taken into consideration before rezoning is decided. The reason I ask this is on June 25th, we received the notice from the Planning and Zoning, Lena Gold, same day that there was a release on YouTube. If you look it up, you'll see Riverland Master Community Update. If you watch the video, four minutes and 31 seconds into it, Ryan Corson, the division president of GL Homes, shares the following. I'm excited to announce that we're putting the finishing touches on the design of the new sports and racquet club complex located in West West of Valencia Grove and Valencia Park with direct access from Paseo Greenway. The video includes maps of the designated area along with all the amenities they're going to offer us. This was announced two weeks before GL's proposal to rezone at the July 7th meeting. GL has also posted signing signage at the model homes, uh, at the end of the sale. Um, and they're promoting it as if it's already a done deal. So that is a big concern for me because it hasn't been approved as far as I'm aware. Um, we purchased our home in August of 2021. We, um, closed in November 22. And at the time we bought the lot and bought the home. It was listed as a city park, not anything recreational. And we're also told that the community next to that was going to be a family community, not a 55 plus community so that the individuals in that neighborhood would not have access to our amenities. So there shouldn't have been as much need for the additional recreation center. Um, we bought our home with the exception, with the expectation of living in tranquility. and not listening to the sounds of the pickleball and all of that, and the yelling and screaming that go along with that. I spend every morning, afternoon, and evening in our lanai, even in the middle of the summer. I have all my meals out there, and I've enjoyed the solitude, listening to the birds, the water, hearing the fish jumping in and out, and I have actually recorded some of that, so I can... have that as proof that we're going to lose this at one point. I'm extremely concerned that all of those the solitude will will be a thing of the past and we won't have access to that anymore. There was a discussion at the last meeting from the attorney from GL that there'll be a buffer, but there's no detail on that for us to even know what they're talking about and how that will really provide us with some reassurance and you know that we won't have the loud noises. I agree that many of the possible continuation of building more communities, because I think there's at least two more after Vista, and if they make them 55 plus and above older, we need the additional recreation center, because we've already outgrown the one that we already have, and the pickleball courts. And I've enjoyed the pickleball courts, and I've enjoyed the recreation center. But there's a lot of undeveloped land that GL still has that is not right up against an existing community that was told there's going to be a city park. So my whole point is that there is an opportunity for them to have this somewhere else. And we're all for it. I think everybody's going to enjoy it. Just not right up against a community that was never told this was going to happen when they bought their homes. So, thank you. Thank you, ma'am.

1:19:52Speaker 28

Ms... I'm sorry if I mispronounce your name. Aranovici?

1:20:00 – 1:23:53Speaker 1

Thank you for this opportunity to address this very important matter. I'm here to read a memo written by a fellow resident and good friend who regretfully, because it's during the summer, is unable to be here since they summer up north, as many of the residents who would be of concern about this matter are also out of town. This friend wrote, I live on Coral Cove Parkway and my home is adjacent to the proposed project to utilize a portion of the land previously intended to be used for a park to a complex with indoor and outdoor pickleball courts and athletic center. GL is proposing to build this complex in response to the demands of the growing community's desire for more athletic facilities. As an avid pickleball player and regular utilizer of the fitness center, I acknowledge the need for additional courts and appreciate the proposal to expand the current capacity. The proposed site plan, however, includes eight indoor courts and 24 outdoor courts. While we welcome the addition of pickle bowl courts, We are very concerned about the noise level generated by the 24 outdoor courts. We know from our current experience that sound level often approaches or exceeds the allowable limits of 65 decibels, and we anticipate the same levels of noise in this proposal. I would encourage all of the Council members, if you have not already done so, to visit the pickleball courts at Riverland during peak hours to get a sense of the noise level and take into consideration that the noise is significantly higher in October through May when the courts are fully utilized. Recognizing that this meeting is to discuss the proposed modification to GL's plans, I would like to offer the following suggestions. One, approve the project only if all the pickleball courts are indoors. This would be a win-win for residents and GL as the indoor pickleball courts can be used in extreme heat as well as in clement weather. Given GL's demonstrated popularity and significant investment in the future growth in Port St. Lucie, this would be a tremendous marketing tool for GL in the sale of future homes. This would satisfy some of the needs of existing residents because they can be used in all weather conditions. In addition, concerns about noise from outdoor courts would be eliminated, or somewhat eliminated, may I add. Two, if the council decides to approve the rezoning of the land for the proposed purpose of additional facilities allowing outdoor pickable courts, the placement of the courts should be furthest away from Grove residents. with the placement of the indoor facility fitness center closest to the existing homeowners to act as a sound barrier. Additionally, mature landscaping and a wall should be included in the plan for sound reduction. Thank you for the opportunity to present these comments. I want to say that this goes very close to all of our hearts and our concerns In a growing time when many things seem to be out of our control, and I'm a retired law enforcement officer, the opportunity to be heard and understood about our sincere concerns is much appreciated.

1:23:54Speaker 1

Thank you, ma'am.

1:23:56Speaker 26

Thank you for your service.

1:24:00 – 1:24:19Speaker 28

Mr. Gottlieb? Good evening.

1:24:19 – 1:26:40Speaker 11

My name is Kurt Gottlieb. I want to thank you for listening to us. I wanted to mention that about two weeks ago, we were outside of the existing pickleball courts that were, when the residents of the K and the Grove moved in, the sports complex was designated for an area people knew they were moving into the proximity of these courts and they were fine with it again as stated before we were told that it was going to be a city park with a few commercial buildings next to us and so forth so obviously the zone changing the zoning is something that will disturb not only the residents within 750 feet, but the pickleball sounds go a lot further than that. There are hundreds, probably 25% of the residents of Valencia Grove that are going to be disturbed by pickleball sounds and other sounds, swimming pool sounds, megaphones when they do what they do in the pools there and so forth. We went out to the existing pickleball courts in the residence that were about 300 or 400 feet away with an eight-foot berm, a roadway in between, a parking lot in between that, and we still heard loud noises from the pickleball courts. I think that with all the land that Riverland, that exists in Riverland, that zoning shouldn't be changed to afford the GL people their pickleball areas, their health clubs and so forth, when they can put that zoning someplace else where there aren't residents. You know, it could be towards the water facility. It could be towards Discovery Way. It could be someplace further south that doesn't disturb their other community. So, again, I request that the zoning not be changed or at least moved. Thank you.

1:26:41Speaker 28

Thank you, sir. Those are all the cards that I had signed up to speak. Would anyone else like to address this matter?

1:26:54 – 1:28:09Speaker 4

I'm just kind of curious, as I listen to this and you talk about zoning, I don't quite understand it. And I'm sure there's probably some other people that don't quite understand it. So I'll be OK looking dumb. I'm good with that. But help me understand, when it comes to zoning and stuff like this used to be agricultural land, OK? And I don't know about anybody else, but I would prefer agricultural over city any day of the week. But when you have a business, it's kind of hard to make a balance of that. So when people are trying to change things up or people that live around these things that are being changed up like what they're doing, okay, do you get to do the zoning change even though the people disagree? I mean, do we have any say whatsoever what happens in that zoning? Because I don't understand it. I'm sure there's some other people that might not quite understand it. And I'm trying to understand what rights do we actually have on our property and how things are? Because it kind of seems like everything that we get to say is actually ours is actually the city's and you get to tell us what to do with it. So please help me understand that if it could. Because my vote is my vote, and you ask for my vote, but you don't listen to anything else I say. So I'm just trying to understand that. Thank you.

1:28:09Speaker 28

Thank you. Would anyone else like to address?

1:28:18Speaker 9

Again, my name is Stephen Giordano.

1:28:19Speaker 28

Were you sworn in?

1:28:21Speaker 28

Were you sworn in?

1:28:23Speaker 9

Was I sworn in?

1:28:24Speaker 28

Yes, this is a quasi-judicial matter. You have to be sworn in before you speak. Mr. Pelton, were you sworn in, sir?

1:28:29Speaker 4

No, just sworn at.

1:28:32Speaker 28

Madam Clark, can you please swear them in?

1:28:45Speaker 4

If they do first. I will tell the truth if they do first. You started it.

1:28:55 – 1:29:58Speaker 9

I just want to say that from hearing what all the constituents and all the taxpayers here in Port St. Lucia, I feel that we need to slow down the growth. I think that we've come to a point of roughly 280,000 residents where we're just taking away all the greenery. And we need to raise the impact fees and we need to slow down the growth. And that's what I think that we should do. And you guys should take a look at that and stop just approving and approving and approving and stop being a yes city. I think you guys need to seriously deep dive into what best fits the community. And what does the community want? What does the people want? This is who pays the taxes. This is who pays all the bills. You guys need to do what's in the best interest of the people. Not you guys or self-interest or take campaign donations from developers consistently over and over and over. We're here. We're taxpayers. We're making these. We're talking. We're here. We're not going nowhere. Okay, do what's in the best interest of the people. Stop doing them for yourselves. We don't need politicians. We need people who listen to the residents. We're the taxpayers. Work for the people, period.

1:30:04 – 1:30:24Speaker 28

Anyone else like to address the council? Come forward, sir. Sir, were you sworn in?

1:30:26Speaker 28

Okay, thank you.

1:30:27 – 1:30:55Speaker 24

How are you this evening? Thank you for listening to me. My name is William Chapman. I'm the president of the Grove. And when we first came to GL, they sold us a dream. They sold us something that was going to blow our minds. And so far it has. Now we get a piece of paper in the mail saying how this new development is going to affect us. I'm a little nervous. It's okay.

1:30:55Speaker 28

Take your time.

1:30:56 – 1:31:17Speaker 24

You look at the property, and there's so much land. Why do they have to infringe on us? Does it make it easy for them, harder for us? That's not right. I came here thinking that, oh, this is going to be a great place to live. Now they're going to take some of that away from us. So thank you.

1:31:18 – 1:31:38Speaker 28

Thank you, sir. Would anyone else like to address the council on this item? Seeing no one, I'm going to close the public hearing. Council, any questions? Anyone want to go first? Go ahead.

1:31:39 – 1:31:54Speaker 14

No? I'll ask some questions. Go ahead. So could someone please provide me with the exact, relevant, specific language from the DRI, the Development of Regional Impact?

1:31:58 – 1:32:15Speaker 26

Well, and if I can ask a follow-up, while you do that, I think it's important for not only you do that, but also to, while you're on the subject of a DRI, explain, please, how it operates. And what does that mean? What is a DRI? And to the question that was asked, why are we obligated to consider that this evening?

1:32:16Speaker 6

Understood. Just to get to clarification, what exact language are you looking for?

1:32:20 – 1:33:05Speaker 14

I want any language or sections relevant to this item. that grants the rights or requires us or compels us to move forward with the rezoning. And I think these presentations need to be a little bit more specific in that regard because if we're required to vote for something, the case ought to be made and it ought to be clear. So, you know, I think I think there's a lot of confusion because it's not laid out. And so I would just like that language on the record.

1:33:09Speaker 28

So basically explain about a DRI, what it is, what's granted in the DRI, and exactly what the process is. It is a complicated process for people to understand.

1:33:18 – 1:35:46Speaker 13

Right, it's a large-scale development of regional impact, and these were approved back in 2006. So basically what it is, it's an amount of entitlements that's granted for a development But within those entitlements or specific requirements that a developer has to do certain roadway improvements, you have to address your utilities, you have to address your parks and recreation, you have to address. And then you have and those are all your conditions of approval. So they end up being like 50, 60 page documents. But within that, there is a master plan. It's called Map H. And Map H basically outlines how the area is going to be developed. So within the Southern Grove Riverland Kennedy area, you have what's called the NCD land use, and that's a new community development district. And within that district, there are sub-districts. So every area of Riverland Kennedy is either designated as a residential area, A NEIGHBORHOOD VILLAGE COMMERCIAL AREA AND A MIXED USED AREA AND ALL OF THAT IS SHOWN ON A MAP. AND THIS PARTICULAR AREA ON THAT MAP IS DESIGNATED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD VILLAGE COMMERCIAL AREA. EXCUSE ME, FRANCIS, BUT IF YOU CAN GO TO THE POLICY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT SHOWS WHAT A NEIGHBORHOOD VILLAGE COMMERCIAL AREA IS, AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TWO USES. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE USES THAT SERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT CAN BE RECREATIONAL USES, IT CAN BE COMMERCIAL USES, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO PICK A MINIMUM OF TWO USES. And then they have to come back to you and rezone the property under the, like a PUD or an MPUD, in which they then outline how they're going to develop that property under that neighborhood village commercial use. So they choose to how it's going to be designed, what uses, we review it, and then it comes to you. But it is a rezoning. I don't know that we, I mean, it's a choice, it's a quasi-judicial hearing that you get to decide is this MPUD you know, is this consistent with this land use and this is what you, how would they lay it out? So I don't know that we would classify it as, I don't want to get into legal here, that we would classify it as a decision you have to make. It is a quasi-judicial hearing for you to look at the MPUD, but the entitlements and the map, those are already established. You've already approved those. Our council has approved those. I don't know if I've answered your question helpfully, but...

1:35:48 – 1:36:04Speaker 14

well you know what I'm what I'm trying to get at is it outlines certain uses that you were saying so this area is located within the neighborhood village sub-district as Bridget was saying previously

1:36:05 – 1:36:23Speaker 6

So that sub-district allows for this list of uses. So again, it's a mix of non-residential and residential uses. So commercial offices, personal and household service establishments, institutional public facilities, parks, playgrounds, and those other similar uses. But again, the uses are to be utilized by the surrounding neighborhoods.

1:36:25 – 1:36:37Speaker 28

So in essence, the fact that it was still agricultural, because the use is neighborhood commercial, it has to be rezoned because it can't remain agricultural.

1:36:37Speaker 13

Exactly, yes, correct. So that part is basically... That part you do have to rezone it for it to be developed, correct?

1:36:42Speaker 28

Correct. That part is a formality because of the fact that the use does not meet the zone.

1:36:48Speaker 28

That's what needs to be clarified. Right.

1:36:51 – 1:37:11Speaker 13

It does have agricultural zoning at this time, so it cannot be developed until it comes into a city zoning district. Because this was land that was in St. Lucie County, annexed into the city in 2006, and then the DRI was approved as well as, then they come in to rezone it, piece by piece, based on the overall master plan.

1:37:13 – 1:38:18Speaker 26

Correct. I was going to just say, so, If I may. So it's just, it is. So the question I think was asked was, do we have a right to refuse it? Yes, we have a right to refuse it, and we have a right to get sued after that. And I'm going to tell you why. And I just think it's important to, just the way I understand it. So when GL purchased this land back in whenever, 2006, as it was stated on record, let's say it was all agricultural. And if I'm wrong in explaining this, you guys jump in. But to me, the best way to explain it is it's like an overlay. So essentially, when you buy this land, it's all ag. They come to the city and they do like an overlay, essentially, which is called an MPUD. In that MPUD, there's certain approvals ahead of schedule that they ask for. So, for example, they say we want this much commercial square footage. We want to do this many units of homes. We're going to give the city X amount of acres and parks, and then we're going to do X amount of neighborhood commercial. Am I am I on track so far? Yes.

1:38:19Speaker 6

Yes. But just to clarify, it would be a DRI.

1:38:21 – 1:38:32Speaker 26

A DRI. Thank you. And DRIs are not the state of Florida allowed DRIs and then they took them away, correct? Because I don't think they are even allowed to be created in Florida anymore, right?

1:38:32Speaker 28

So we're dealing with an old set of circumstances. But the ones that were approved have to be. Yes, because that's the law. Let's not make sure we mix that up.

1:38:39 – 1:39:16Speaker 26

So what happens is that then they bring in what's called a master plan, an MPUD that overlays where these uses are potentially going to go. This particular process, which I want an answer to the question because I keep hearing that 25 acres where the city was going to be a city park, from what I'm reading, this overlay was always going to be NCD, which is neighborhood commercial district. Am I right or wrong? I know sometimes depending on what the access point is, some things get changed. Was this supposed to be a city park at 25 acres at one point in time? Or is it a master overlay? Because right now it's ag and then it says NCD.

1:39:18 – 1:40:44Speaker 19

So it is NCD land use currently. There is a 2022 parks agreement, which is not part of this hearing tonight, that did involve some land swaps between the city and GL. Ms. Goldstein did mention it. It was in part of contemplation with their construction at the Paseo Park. If you look at the exhibit that's in the PowerPoint that Aslina put up, It does show that above the land that GL is retaining, there is going to be a city park, and then there's a city reverse osmosis plant. So that's all within this? So Ms. Goldstein is not rezoning the property that is the city's. It's just she has a picture that shows all three of them on it in her PowerPoint. She's talking about GL's property. It's land use, NCD, currently zoned, AG 5. This is a rezoning. If you review the material in the record and the council chose not to approve it, the applicant would need to redesign her project and then bring forward a rezoning. They cannot develop it without it being rezoned. But it has to be designed... consistent with the comp plan of the DRI or else the MAP-H and all the other documents would have to be changed.

1:40:44 – 1:41:27Speaker 26

In layman terms, because that's what I'm saying, in layman terms, bring it around full circle, because they pre-approved the use and did the overlay essentially of NCD, if we go back on that, because that's a contract and that's a promise, if we go back on that, Is that a problem legally, Mr. City Attorney, potentially? And I hate to do that because that exposes, I understand that exposes legalities, but to the point that was asked, and I do get frustrated up here, just like the people in the audience, because I do want to say no sometimes. There's many times I want to say no, but unfortunately, legally, sometimes we cannot say no. So I'm sorry if we have to do that, but I just think it's the truth. It is what it is. Well, it's the same answer.

1:41:28 – 1:42:31Speaker 8

All right, so going to the legal portion of it, right? Every application, every denial, every approval runs the risk of litigation, right? It's kind of what this nation is built on, right? You can sue anyone for anything at any time. Whether or not that suit is successful is a different story. I think with regard to the DRI document itself or the agreement, there is some language that insulates the city on the city acting in its governmental capacity. So if you sitting as a quasi-judicial board find that to Mary's point earlier that this application is insufficient, they would have to come back and reapply. So yes, they have to develop it, but the rezoning would have to be approved to suffice with the overall plan as discussed. So I know it's like talking in circles, but there's different layers to it. So there's the DRI document that's like a contract. We have some language in that document that THAT I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL DEFEND THE COUNCIL'S DECISION. THAT'S JUST MY JOB. RIGHT.

1:42:33 – 1:42:55Speaker 26

SO AS FAR AS EVIDENCE GOES AND WE'RE LIKE DOING EVIDENCE AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S CONSISTENT VERSUS WHAT'S NOT CONSISTENT, WOULD IT BE A FAIR STATEMENT THAT BEING THAT THIS OVERLAY SAYS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE NCD, IF THE APPLICANT WAS PROPOSING 10,000 HOMES VERSUS WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED, IS THAT AN NCD USE LEGALLY? And that would be a reason for denial.

1:42:56Speaker 8

That would be a question I'd ask NCD. Is NCD under that?

1:42:59Speaker 26

No, NCD doesn't have homes under it like that, 10,000 homes.

1:43:02 – 1:43:17Speaker 13

Sorry, NCD is the land use. It's the overall land use. So if they wanted to turn around and develop this as residential, they'd have to change the land use on the map, the sub-district from the neighborhood village commercial to residential. Right. Okay.

1:43:17 – 1:43:38Speaker 26

So what I'm just saying is because the comp plan states that this is going to be NCD and they're asking for a consistent use, then they are basically in agreement with what's been agreed with before. And that's what I'm just trying to say. If they came in with something different, they're really not coming in with something different. They're really coming in with the same thing that's currently been agreed to prior, and that's what I'm trying to get to.

1:43:39Speaker 13

It's consistent with what is allowed in an NCD district, yes.

1:43:42Speaker 26

Thank you. I mean, that's just – and I'm sorry, again –

1:43:47 – 1:44:22Speaker 28

SIR, PLEASE DON'T YELL OUT, PLEASE. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW? I'M GOING TO ASK MS. GOLDSTEIN TO COME UP. MS. GOLDSTEIN, CAN YOU PLEASE COME UP? I KNOW THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE RAISING THEIR HANDS. DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT PUBLIC TO BE HEARD IS CLOSED ON THIS? YES, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. I NEED TO ASK THE APPLICANT A QUESTION. MISS GOLDSTEIN, HAS THERE BEEN A PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA WITH REGARD TO THIS ISSUE?

1:44:25 – 1:46:06Speaker 31

NO, IT'S JUST WITH MR. REARDON REGARDING THE ISSUE OF THE BUFFER. CAN YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN? SORRY. BECAUSE THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COP PLAN, AND THE COP PLAN MAP OF FIGURE 1-4 SHOWS THIS BEING NCD, WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY or new community development as the underlying land use. And as with every single parcel that we've come in, every single community that we have out here, all the four communities, parcel A, B, C, D, and E, each a Valencia community, we've had to do an MPUD to rezone it consistent with our Riverland Kennedy DRI development order. And so those communities, as shown in our map H of our development order that has been around since 2008, AMENDMENTS HERE AND THERE, BUT THE MAP AGE CONSISTENTLY HAS, SO FOR COMMUNITIES, THE LAND USE WAS BEFORE AG, AND THEN WE HAD TO REZONE IT TO RESIDENTIAL. WHEN WE DID OUR TOWN CENTER, THE LAND USE WAS AG. AND THEN CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND OUR DRI, DEVELOPMENT ORDER, WE REZONED IT TO COMMERCIAL USE WHICH WAS MIXED USE AND NEIGHBORHOOD VILLAGE COMMERCIAL AS SHOWN IN OUR MAP H. TONIGHT BEFORE YOU IS OUR REZONING FROM AG CONSISTENT WITH OUR MAP H IS THIS PROPERTY WHERE THE ZONING IS NEIGHBORHOOD VILLAGE COMMERCIAL. SO WE ARE FOLLOWING OUR MAP H IN OUR DEVELOPMENT ORDER THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF FIGURE 1-4. SO WE'RE NOT changing any zoning designation, we're following what our map H has been shown.

1:46:08 – 1:46:22Speaker 28

So being that there are so many concerns from the residents, is GL willing to have a meeting with the residents on this issue in order to address the issues about buffering, about noise, and

1:46:23 – 1:47:38Speaker 31

Lighting and location correct as as previously explained to mr Reardon at that time like when we're you know more into the process because this is a straightforward rezoning so when we actually have those specific details of the site plan which include the construction plans the layout of the specific buffers the specific trees that are going to please all those details that we have to do for every single site plan and that we do for our MPD rezoning just like we did for our town center for our mixed use areas for the development of that site and that site plan you actually get into all of the specific details of the building location of the buffering of all those things but right here this is just rezoning we don't have those details yet for the site plan because that's not this process at that time when we're ready to get there and when we have those details we will be more than happy to share that information and meet with everybody to discuss what's planned but until then we're just here at the straightforward rezoning it's hard to hear um when everyone's yelling out so or talking loud so if you could please keep it down I appreciate it yes go ahead if Stephanie was in first go ahead Councilwoman

1:47:40 – 1:48:40Speaker 20

So we're getting way too in the weeds. This is a rezoning application. Most of that, all that property out there was AG 5. And now it's piece by piece. It's consistent with the comp plan. It's to be neighborhood commercial development. We're just getting way too much in the weeds, I think, and going off track. You have another bite at the apple. The plans are not even... They haven't even made application to do that, which it will come back. So I'm just asking if we could kind of reel it in only because... And I understand, but this is strictly... The rezoning, it will come back at a later date and go through the channels again.

1:48:40 – 1:49:41Speaker 26

So, and Ms. Goldstein, it's difficult. The city has grown tremendously, as we all are aware of and we know. And as we have more people that have moved in, they don't understand this process. And as straightforward as this is, and as I mean, I understand how legally binding this is as a board, I would really appreciate very much if you'd be willing to just table for even if it's just one meeting to sit down with the residents to explain the process. and answer their questions because we are trying to do that from this from this dais and I think there's just a lot of information that they need to understand and I'm sorry if it feels I'm sorry to slow it down but I think we might just need to give people the opportunity to really and like you said we don't have the plans the site plans and I hear you don't have the site plans but even this part of the process I'm not I don't think they comprehend it and I think It's important to have those conversations and answer those questions.

1:49:41 – 1:50:18Speaker 28

And that's why I asked the question because there are many times where we say and we ask the developers to have a neighborhood meeting and go over everything. We've done it many, many times where we've said, can we take a step back and make sure that everyone is meeting together so that... there can be a better understanding. And so that's what I would like to see. And that's why I asked that question. And I would be in favor of tabling it until there is at least a neighborhood meeting to have the conversation. I think it's only fair given what's happening. Because there are a lot of questions out there.

1:50:19 – 1:50:30Speaker 20

But, and I'm just going to tag on, but wouldn't that be at the time where they had plans and they knew what they were going to do and they would have the site plan and they would have...

1:50:30Speaker 28

Please, please, please. We've done this before. We've done it before. Mary, go ahead.

1:50:36 – 1:51:27Speaker 19

Madam Mayor, if I may, that's a great suggestion to perhaps table, although it may create an additional delay. We have done this before. I would suggest that if that's a possibility, that would allow staff time to perhaps develop a condition about enhanced buffering. We could talk with the applicant. You have done this before, especially when there was a desire to have more specificity on what the buffer was, right, between the development and the residences. So that would not be something you haven't done before if you did that today. So you could... It is an option out there, although perhaps not the most desirable for the applicant, but... Go ahead.

1:51:28Speaker 22

I'd like to make a motion to table ordinance 2673 to dates uncertain. Second.

1:51:34Speaker 28

Okay. I have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Yes, Mary.

1:51:41 – 1:52:02Speaker 19

Request, if I may, to reconsider. We did pay and mail the butters notices and did legal advertising. If you table the date uncertain, we'll have to pay for all of that again. It's certainly your purview, but if you would table to a date certain.

1:52:03 – 1:52:14Speaker 28

We can re-advertise. It's not that expensive. That can be done. Anything else from the council? before I call the question.

1:52:14 – 1:52:34Speaker 14

If we did table to a date certain and it got to that meeting and it wasn't ready, would we then be able to table to another date certain? We would. Okay, so to avoid that cost, you know, I would like to amend the motion to table to... You've got to amend it first.

1:52:35Speaker 22

I made the motion, but what's acceptable?

1:52:37Speaker 19

Perhaps August 24th. That gives...

1:52:42Speaker 31

Give us approximately 30 days, so that's perfect. Table to a date, certain we'll be able to have the meetings and inform the residents with what information we have.

1:52:53Speaker 22

I'll correct my motion to table it to August 24th. Second.

1:52:59 – 1:55:55Speaker 28

Okay. Any final discussion? We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. So before we move on to resolutions, and we'll take a break before we move on, but Mr. Levesque, you want to come up on 7B really quick? I know we tabled that. That's okay. Okay. Go ahead, sir.

1:55:56Speaker 3

Was it something I said? No, go ahead.

1:56:00Speaker 28

I'm sorry. You had to wait.

1:56:01 – 1:57:37Speaker 3

Okay. Sorry. Um, this is small potatoes compared to what's going on right now. But anyway, I happened to look at the agenda for tonight and that item seven Bravo that I was talking about before. Um, I'd like to say a few words about that. It's going to be real quick. Sure. Um, I'm here to speak about the request that you received. That was a letter. for supporting the Banner Lake Academy back to school event in Hope Sound next month. The letter reads partially like this. It says, we are reaching out to the city of Port St. Lucie to see if they might be willing to support this effort through a donation, sponsorship, advertisement, opportunity, and other community calendars and so forth, and spread the word and increase community involvement. And it goes on to speak more about financial support. Now, this is not in our city. It's not in our county. And it's a nonprofit organization that's requesting funds, tax funds from us. And I don't think that's appropriate. I think that in light of the upcoming November vote, where we're all going to vote yes on Amendment 3 on the ballot, to lower our property taxes. Now would not be the time to be using our tax dollars to support nonprofit school functions that are not in this city and not in our county. Any monetary support for this nonprofit should come from Hoag Sound or Martin County. Thank you.

1:57:37 – 1:58:03Speaker 28

Thank you, sir. I just want to let you know, so it was tabled. I think there was question with regard to the location. It was not for funding. It was just for utilization of partnership with the city, but you're absolutely correct. There's a question about location that I think for some reason got missed somehow, and that's why it was tabled by our assistant city manager.

1:58:03Speaker 3

Well, it's supposed to be on August 8th, so it's probably moved anyway.

1:58:07Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you.

1:58:08Speaker 28

Thank you, sir. Okay. We are going to take a 15 minute break.

2:05:06 – 2:08:24Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you.

2:13:39Speaker 28

Okay, we're back from the break. We're moving on to resolutions. Item 11A, Resolution 26-R53.

2:13:47 – 2:14:17Speaker 25

A resolution of the City Council of the City of Port St. Lucie, Florida, granting a special exception use application pursuant to Section 158.100C4 to allow an enclosed assembly area without an alcoholic beverage license for on-premises consumption of alcoholic beverages. in the OSR zoning district for a project known as Remade Church, providing for conflict, providing for severability, and providing an effective date. Thank you. Ex parte communications. I have met with the...

2:14:17Speaker 28

So have I. So have I. Okay. Great. Go ahead.

2:14:22 – 2:17:15Speaker 6

Good evening, Madam Mayor, Madam Vice Mayor, Council, staff. The item before you is the Remade Church Incorporated Special Exception Use. Again, for the record, my name is Francis Foreman. I'm with the Planning and Zoning Division. I have been sworn in, and the official city packet has been given to the city clerks five days prior to this meeting. Madam Clerk, if you could please enter that file into the record. The applicant for this application is Robert Brown of Remade Church Incorporated, with the owner being Remade Church Incorporated. This project is located on the southwest corner of Southwest Kimball Circle and Southwest Kentwood Road. The request before you is a special exception used to allow an enclosed assembly without an alcoholic beverage license for on-premise consumption of alcoholic beverages in the Open Space Recreation or OSR zoning district per section 158.100 of the zoning code of ordinances. This is an aerial of the overall subject site with the subject site actually being outlined here in yellow. The overall area does have a future land use designation of RL or low residential with compatible zoning district of RS2 or single family residential. This site is located within the Whispering Pines POA. This is the proposed conceptual site plan. This site plan was approved back in 1978. So that's why it's a little older. Everything that's here located in black is currently existing. So from the building to the parking to the courts and everything else that's on that plan is existing as of today. Everything in red is what is going to be proposed as far as parking goes. Per section 158.260 of our zoning code of ordinances, any special exception use must meet additional criteria to come forward through this process. That criteria includes adequate ingress, egress, off-street parking, properly located utilities, buffering, lighting, and overall compatibility with the surrounding uses. The proposal as it is now is proposing to meet all of the code standards for these sections of this criteria. The Planning and Zoning Board recommended approval of this special exception use at their July 7th, 2026 meeting The following condition recommended by staff, and that condition reads, a site plan application with landscape and construction plans shall be submitted and approved prior to issuance of any permits. The improvements shall be completed prior to the proposed church use initiating within the building. This condition is, again, just to verify that the site plan and the construction plans come in since this was built back in 78, just to bring it forward to make sure that it's meeting all of today's code standards as well as anything that's going to be provided as far as parking is in place prior to the use being opened. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FOR STAFF AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

2:17:15 – 2:17:32Speaker 28

ANY QUESTIONS? NO. NO? THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? YOU COULD? OKAY. THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? Seeing no one will close the public hearing. Council? Motion to approve. Motion to approve Resolution 26SR53.

2:17:33 – 2:18:19Speaker 26

Second. Second, third, fourth. Under discussion, Madam Mayor. Yes. So if anyone had to learn about zoning, it is this gentleman in the audience right here. Yes. And this has been, I know, a laborious process, and I appreciate you moving it forward the way that you have. Staff, my only, you know, my only, this is a very broad discussion, Recommendation, I will support the recommendation, but I also want to make sure that the recommendation is consistent to what he's currently doing, like what he's going to be doing as well. You know, I've already examined the property with him, discussed these things, and so I understand we need to deal with some of these things, but I just want to make sure we just don't go overboard. That's all. Thank you.

2:18:22 – 2:18:39Speaker 19

And will the site plan approval come before the site plan beside to us or to you to the SPRC?

2:18:39Speaker 26

Okay. Yeah. Perfect. Perfect. That saves a step. So I just want to make sure. Okay. Thank you.

2:18:48Speaker 28

All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed?

2:18:51Speaker 19

Motion carries. Just point of clarification, that was a motion to approve with the condition? Yes, ma'am. Yes, with the condition.

2:19:02 – 2:19:42Speaker 25

11b resolution 26-r54 a resolution of the city council of the city of port st lucie florida granting a special exception use application pursuant to section 158.124 c14 to allow a standalone restaurant with drive-through service lanes in the general commercial zoning district for a project known as darwin square providing for conflict providing for severability and providing an effective date thank you any ex parte communications to disclose no no me either go ahead good evening again madam mayor madam vice mayor council staff uh the item before you again is the darwin square poyotropical special exception use

2:19:43Speaker 6

I'M SORRY TO INFORM YOU, I AM NOT CODY SISK. I AM, AGAIN, FRANCIS SORM WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, AND THE OFFICIAL CITY PACKET HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE CITY CLERKS FIVE DAYS PRIOR.

2:19:51Speaker 26

YOU GUYS COULD LOOK LIKE BROTHERS. A LITTLE BIT.

2:19:55 – 2:22:28Speaker 6

MADAM CLERK, IF YOU COULD PLEASE ENTER THAT PACKET INTO THE RECORD. THE AGENT FOR THIS PROJECT IS THE CORPORATE PROPERTY SERVICES INCORPORATED, WITH THE OWNER BEING PSL DARWIN LLC. THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT 3201 SOUTHWEST PORT ST. LUCIE BOULEVARD. With the request being an approval of a special exception use to allow a restaurant with a drive-through service lane in the general commercial zoning district per section 158 to 14 C14 of the zoning code of ordinances. This is an aerial of the overall area with the subject site being outlined here in yellow. This may look familiar to you. This is located within the Darwin Plaza. This is the location of the currently vacant bank that used to be there. This is that site that's going to be they're going to be redeveloping that bank that's currently vacant. The overall area does have a mixture of future land uses, but the surrounding immediate properties do have a future land use of general commercial with a consistent or compatible zoning district of general commercial as well. Again, currently the uses immediately abutting this property are commercial from a fast food restaurant to publics and other commercial type uses. This is the conceptual site plan that was brought forward with the stacking and the drive-through being faced inside of the plaza, not towards the main road. This is the conceptual landscape plan, which is proposed to meet the current code standards. This is the elevation of the proposed podotropic cal with the north and the east elevations, as well as the south and the western elevations. As like the previous application, every special exception use does need to come forward and meet additional criteria per Section 158.260 of the zoning code. That criteria, again, is adequate ingress and egress, off-street parking, utilities, buffering, lighting, and overall just compatibility with the area. The proposal is coming forward with certain or meeting this laid out criteria. There was a previously approved variance. for the parking, making it allowable and meeting the requirements as set in that variance. The Planning and Zoning Board recommended approval at their July 7th Planning and Zoning Board of this special exception use. This concludes my presentation as staff. I'm here to answer any questions you may have. I believe the applicant is also here and does have a presentation.

2:22:28Speaker 28

Any questions? No?

2:22:30 – 2:22:42Speaker 22

Okay, go ahead. The curbing that's already there in place, that's going to remain around the bank. or where the old bank was at, there's curbing there to keep people from just driving in and out of it.

2:22:43Speaker 6

That's going to remain. On the exterior of the property? Yes. I believe so, but I will leave that to the applicant to verify that for you.

2:22:50 – 2:23:04Speaker 28

Thank you. Any other questions for staff? No. Thanks so much. Good evening.

2:23:05 – 2:24:02Speaker 15

Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council Members, Craig McDonald with Corporate Property Services on behalf of Puyo Tropical. We're talking about the abandoned bank. There's no bank there now, but the building was a bank with a drive-thru at 3201 Southwest Port St. Lucie Boulevard. What we're looking for, requesting a special use exception for a 2,841 square foot stand-alone... restaurant with a drive-thru. As was stated, the parking variance was granted for 20 parking spaces back on June 2nd by the P&Z board. Today, these type of restaurants do about 70, 75% of the business of the drive-thru, so the need for that many excess parking spaces just isn't needed today. The site is located within Darwin Square, which got McDonald's, got the hospital behind us, and then the public, so it fits well within the commercial general zoning. This is the site plan to answer your question. Basically, we're going back real quick.

2:24:02 – 2:24:14Speaker 22

Sorry. Sorry about that. Small arrow goes back. I got you.

2:24:18 – 2:24:33Speaker 15

To answer your question, you can see the bank, all the access is going to remain the same except on the bottom right-hand corner of the red dotted line in the southeast corner. That's going to be closed off because we're going to wrap our queuing around. But all the other access as it exists today remains.

2:24:34Speaker 22

I was just concerned because that's the major ingress. Yes, sir. Cars won't be able to come in. Thank you.

2:24:42 – 2:25:56Speaker 15

This is the site plan. As you can see, back in that corner, there's a trash enclosure facing to the northeast, but it's heavily landscaped all the way around the perimeter of the site. All the parking is on the west side, abutting Port St. Lucie Boulevard. On the north, it's an access easement that runs east and west there. When we were at the P&G board, people brought up queuing. We'd already done queuing for really the peak hour for them is lunch, but we went and did it for also lunch. DINNER TIME AS WELL AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROVIDING 12 STACKING VEHICLES FROM THE PAY WINDOW WHERE YOU PICK UP YOUR FOOD BACK TO WHERE YOU ENTER AND THEN ONE VEHICLE AFTER YOU PICK UP YOUR FOOD, PEOPLE STOP, CHECK THEIR BAG, WHATNOT, JUST GIVES A LITTLE RUB BEFORE THEY HAVE TO STOP AND EXIT. KIMMELY HORN PROVIDE, DID THE STUDY, IT WAS HERE IN FORT ST. LUCY, STEWART AND JUPITER, THREE OTHER POIOTRUP COW RESTAURANTS. THE COUNTS WERE TAKEN DURING THE PEAK HOUR, WHICH IS LUNCH, 11 AM TO 1.55 AND THEN FROM 4 TO 8 PM. THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF VEHICLES OBSERVED AT ANY GIVEN TIME IN THE DRIVE-THROUGH WERE NINE VEHICLES. SO THE PROPOSED TEN VEHICLES WE'RE PROPOSING WILL ADEQUATELY MEET THE MAXIMUM DEMAND FOR QUEUING. AND WITH THAT, THIS IS SOME OF THE RENDERING OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL HAS.

2:25:56Speaker 26

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT PARKING QUEUING. WHAT IS THE PARKING QUEUING CURRENTLY IN ST. LOUIS, U.S.? THAT LOCATION, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY VEHICLES GET QUEUED THERE?

2:26:05Speaker 15

On St. Lucie, what was the maximum number that queued there?

2:26:09Speaker 26

Yeah, St. Lucie West.

2:26:14 – 2:26:32Speaker 15

Adam Kerr is our traffic engineer. Thank you. You may know quicker than I can look it up for you. The maximum number there looks like it was nine.

2:26:32Speaker 26

Okay. I just want to make sure it's more than what it currently is in St. Lucie West.

2:26:36Speaker 15

Yeah, we have 12, so there were two times where it looked like it was nine.

2:26:39Speaker 2

Yeah, correct. Adam Kerr with Kimley Horne and Associates. Yes, the maximum was nine at the St. Lucie West location at 1215.

2:26:45 – 2:27:11Speaker 26

And it's a different, you know, just because I know the restaurant, this particular restaurant very well in the sense that it is a different restaurant. The food is made a little differently. So it's not as quick and fast food as, you know, your regular fast food restaurants. So the queuing sometimes in St. Lucie West goes outside of the queuing space and then into the drive in a sense. What will happen if you go over 12 here? Like where would the additional queuing take place?

2:27:11 – 2:27:26Speaker 15

It would probably push back into the interior of the property because, you know, you certainly wouldn't queue back out to block the drive aisle for the main shopping center. So if it happened, it would be there, but it's not going to happen.

2:27:26 – 2:27:38Speaker 26

Okay. I'm just glad you have more queuing than Sandwich U.S. because that one does sometimes get, I think especially in the evening, get overwhelmed a little bit. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Oh, when you're getting one on the east side. Got one in West, one in Darwin.

2:27:38Speaker 15

We'll let them know.

2:27:39Speaker 26

All right, thanks.

2:27:41Speaker 28

Any other questions? Okay, thank you. This is a public hearing. Would anyone like to address the council? Seeing no one, I'll close the public hearing. Council?

2:27:52Speaker 22

Motion to approve Resolution 26-R54.

2:27:55Speaker 28

Second. I have a motion and a second. Any final discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. 11C, Resolution 26-R55.

2:28:05 – 2:28:30Speaker 25

A resolution of the City Council of the City of Port St. Lucie, Florida amending the fee for upland preservation mitigation as provided in Section 157.06 of the Code of Ordinances requiring that the fee be analyzed by staff annually and if the data indicates a change of greater than 5%, Staff bring forward a proposal to amend the fee for Council to consider, providing for conflict, providing for an effective date.

2:28:31Speaker 28

Thank you. Council, is there a motion? Motion to approve Resolution 26-R55. Second. I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? I do. Okay.

2:28:42 – 2:28:54Speaker 20

I totally missed this memo. I think it's currently at $25,000. Okay. wanting to raise it to $85,000.

2:28:56 – 2:29:14Speaker 19

Councilwoman Morgan, the recommendation before you is to raise it to $85,500. When the memo was written originally, it was back in April. The fee has been fine-tuned, and we workshopped $85,500. And so that's what's in the resolution.

2:29:15 – 2:29:27Speaker 20

And then back in 2015, it went... Well, from 05 at 105 to 2015 to 170,171 with the 5% annual inflation provision. And then in 17, it was 25.

2:29:39 – 2:32:41Speaker 19

So interestingly, it was 105 in 2005, and then in 2007, it went up to 140,000 per acre with a 5% increase annually. It continued to increase. It was 170,171 in 2015. it continued to increase and before it was reduced in 2017 i mean yes in 2017 the fee had actually increased up to 217 000 um and so i cannot speak specifically as i was not here when those rolling increases were happening but it was an automatic inflation in there AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS IN 2017, THE COUNCIL PULLED IT BACK DOWN AND SAID 25,000, YOU REDUCED IT TO. In looking at all of the old resolutions it seems like for a while it wasn't changing. Then we had this like inflationary thing and it looked like it was changing. Perhaps I don't want to say unchecked but it was escalating. So when we brought this forward to you there was a couple of considerations. One is the price of land is certainly above twenty five thousand dollars an acre in the undeveloped area to the west. The code does require land to be preserved as part of development. However, if a developer is unable to do so, there is an option for them to propose to pay a fee in lieu of. That's what this is. It's proposed. It allows an option, we shall say. Staff's perception is that $25,000 really is low. That money goes into our conservation fund. What is the conservation fund used for? It can be used to buy more green space, which is one of the priorities of the council. It can also be used to improve those conservation lands, like develop a passive park, mitigate invasives. Staff had worked with finance to identify an appropriate fee, but the resolution before you suggests that we review it annually. And if the price either of the land comps either goes up or down more than 5%, that we come back to you to have an adjustment instead of just having it roll until it really doesn't seem to be related to the cost of land. And so that's what the resolution is before you, to say we're asking that you approve an increase to $85,500 with a condition that staff review it annually, and if the recommended price of land deviates more than 5%, it could go down if we have a recession, that we come back to you and ask you to adjust it.

2:32:42 – 2:33:36Speaker 20

Okay, it's my understanding that this is a mitigation fee This is strictly for when a development is not able to preserve an upland habitat on site. It just seems like an exorbitant amount of money. Maybe I'm wrong. Like I said, I must have missed this memo. And when I saw this, I just thought it was extremely high. I'm not really in favor of it jumping that much. But I'm only one of five. I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD. AND DID YOU HAVE, WERE THERE MEETINGS ON THIS, STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS?

2:33:36 – 2:34:48Speaker 19

SO THAT'S A GREAT POINT. WE DID HAVE TWO STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS IN JULY ON OUR FEE SCHEDULE INCREASE AND THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT BOTH OF THOSE. ONE WAS JULY 8 AND ONE WAS JULY 16. THEY WERE BOTH HYBRID. ONE WAS IN THE EVENING AND ONE WAS DURING THE DAY. And relative to the fee, how we arrived at that, we worked with the finance department. You're correct, this is in lieu of preservation of land. Finance took a look at the comps of the undeveloped land that would likely to be the subject of this or what we would purchase for upland mitigation. And the finance department got several recent sales. They took out the highest one and they took out the lowest one. And then they did an average and then they recommended this fee to us as a middle of the road, reasonable comp for if the city were to go out and try to purchase land. So that's how the fee was arrived upon. It's council's purview to set it as what you deem fair.

2:34:53 – 2:35:39Speaker 26

Are you done, Councilwoman Morgan? I'm done. Okay. See, I was on the opposite spectrum, which we're booking, so that happens sometimes. I thought it was too low. I was like, I actually thought it should be higher. But, you know, I do understand that that finance has a methodology, essentially, to ensure that we're being fair, because you don't want to be unfair. And I do understand why it increased, because obviously there was a point in time where You can even get a quarter-acre lot for under $100,000 in Port St. Lucie in the early 2000s. So I understand the fluctuation, but I think that currently this is a fair price. Would I like to see it even double that? Absolutely. But I think you have to be fair, and this is a middle ground, I guess. So I'm in support of it. Anything else?

2:35:41 – 2:37:09Speaker 14

is there a motion motion i think yeah i think it was a motion and a second already am i right yeah oh sorry yep we just discussion that's right it was discussion did you have something well i just i just wanted to say this is a this is a tough one for me because i don't ever want to see a fee go up over 300 that's that's just you know i mean we we have to have some predictability and the fact that we haven't looked at this it seems, I don't know, since 2017, you know, is troubling to me. On the other hand, requiring green space, making people that are developing be accountable and pay for their fair share and pay for their impacts is important. And, you know, you consider if that inflation adjustment had been in effect since 2017, you know, kind of where we would be. And then the the rational nexus that our finance department used in the comps. I think I'm comfortable with this one. I'm very uncomfortable with the process. I'm very comfortable with how we got here. And so I just wanted to get that on the record, because I'm not going to vote this down because the process was flawed, because the fee should be based on the impact. I'm just really troubled with that 2017 year, and I want to get that on the record. Thank you.

2:37:14 – 2:37:55Speaker 19

If I may offer to the council, this isn't a mandatory fee. Right. Obviously we would prefer that all the developers preserve their open space and follow the code and every development incorporates additional untouched upland habitat area in its pristine form. So they're not required to do this. This is, you know, They can request it, and so I just want to be clear that this is not something that we're imposing on them. They choose to request to pay a fee in lieu of preserving that land.

2:37:57Speaker 28

It's a fee in lieu of.

2:38:00 – 2:38:21Speaker 20

But it's not open space per se. It's not OSR. Correct. Because it's upland habitat protection. Right. So if they have a development and there's some reason they can't preserve that area, then they pay to have it mitigated. Correct.

2:38:24 – 2:38:38Speaker 28

Yep. That's what it is. Okay. All in favor. Aye. Any opposed?

2:38:47 – 2:39:15Speaker 25

11D, Resolution 26-R56. A resolution of the City of Port St. Lucie, Florida authorizing the acceptance of an easement to the City of Port St. Lucie over a portion of real property described as Track A, Southern Grove, Plot No. 39, as recorded in Plot Book 109, page 30 of the Public Records of St. Lucie County, Florida, for the installation and maintenance of traffic signal improvements, providing for conflict, providing for severability, and providing an effective date.

2:39:16Speaker 26

Thank you, is there a motion? Motion to approve resolution 26-R56. Second. No motion and second.

2:39:23Speaker 28

Any discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.

2:39:29 – 2:40:13Speaker 25

11E, Resolution 26-R57. A resolution of the City of Port St. Lucie, Florida, authorizing the acquisition of real property described as Lot 1, Block 1662, Port St. Lucie, Section 5, as recorded in Plattebook 12, pages 15, 15A through 15E, the public records of st. Lucie County Florida for public safety purposes as being a public necessity and authorizing the city manager or his designee to take any and all appropriate actions to acquire the subject property in fee simple providing for conflict providing for severability and providing an effective date thank you is there a motion motion approved resolution 26-r 57 second motion in a second any discussion

2:40:14Speaker 28

All those in favor. Aye. Any opposed motion carries.

2:40:19 – 2:40:41Speaker 25

11F, Resolution 26-R58, a resolution of the City of Port St. Lucie, Florida, relating to the provision of voluntary culvert repair services in the City of Port St. Lucie, directing the preparation of an assessment role, authorizing a public hearing, and directing the provisions of notice thereof, providing for conflict, providing for severability, and providing an effective date.

2:40:41 – 2:40:52Speaker 28

Is there a motion? Motion to approve Resolution 26-R58. Second. I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.

2:40:52 – 2:41:10Speaker 25

11G, Resolution 26-R59, a resolution of the City of Port St. Lucie, Florida, authorizing the city manager or written designee to enter into and execute grant agreements related to law enforcement and traffic safety, providing for conflict, providing for severability, and providing an effective date.

2:41:11Speaker 20

Is there a motion? Motion to approve Resolution 26-R59. Second. We have a motion and a second.

2:41:19Speaker 28

Any discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.

2:41:24 – 2:41:58Speaker 25

11H, Resolution 26-R60. A resolution of the City of Port St. Lucie, Florida relating to the provision of stormwater management services in the City of Port St. Lucie, reimposing and increasing stormwater service fees against commercial and residential developed and undeveloped property located within the City of Port St. Lucie for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2026, continuing thereafter until amended. directing the preparation of an assessment role, authorizing a public hearing, and directing the provision of notice thereof, providing for conflict, providing for severability, and providing an effective date.

2:41:59Speaker 25

Is there a motion?

2:42:01Speaker 28

Motion to approve Resolution 26-R60. Second. I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.

2:42:12 – 2:42:46Speaker 25

11 i resolution 26-r61 a resolution of the city of port st lucie florida relating to residential street lighting within the residential street lighting assessment areas in port st lucie florida establishing the assessment rate for residential street lighting services against assessed property located within the city for the fiscal year beginning October 21st, I'm sorry, October 1st, 2026, directing the preparation of assessment role, authorizing a public hearing and directing the provision of notice thereof, providing for conflict, providing for severability, and providing an effective date. Thank you. Is there a motion?

2:42:47Speaker 22

Motion to approve Resolution 26-R61. Second.

2:42:49Speaker 28

I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All those in favor?

2:42:55Speaker 28

Any opposed? Motion carries.

2:42:57 – 2:43:30Speaker 25

11J, Resolution 26, R62. A resolution of the City Council of the City of Port St. Lucie, Florida relating to the collection and disposal of solid waste and recyclable materials in the city. Establishing the assessment rate for solid waste service assessments AGAINST ASSESSED PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2026, DIRECTING THE PREPARATION OF ASSESSMENT ROLE, AUTHORIZING A PUBLIC HEARING, AND DIRECTING THE PROVISION OF NOTICE THEREOF, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION?

2:43:31Speaker 26

MOTION TO APPROVE.

2:43:33Speaker 28

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

2:43:39 – 2:43:56Speaker 25

11K resolution 26-R63. A resolution of the City of Port St. Lucie, Florida, authorizing the final acceptance of public roadway improvements for Crosstown Parkway 2B, constructed by Oak Ridge Ranches LLC, providing for conflict, providing for severability, and providing an effective date.

2:43:56 – 2:44:33Speaker 28

Thank you. Is there a motion? Motion to approve resolution 26-R63. Second. We have a motion and a second. Any final discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. 11i. Should we do the presentation first? Let's do the presentation first. Mayor, this is 11l. I'm sorry, 11l. I was going to say, where's i? Lowercase. Yeah, exactly. It's late. It is. Let's do the presentation for half cent sales tax before we do the resolution.

2:44:37Speaker 3

I'll change it.

2:44:41 – 2:45:27Speaker 10

Good evening, Mayor, City Council, residents that are still in attendance. I'm going to keep it very short because I know it's a late night, so I won't go over our bios as we've been adding the presentations very much, but essentially we want to try and present to you the proposed four different types of projects that would be on the ballot in November if St. Lucie County decides to give the residents the opportunity to vote on extending the half-cent sales tax. So it's Eric will be going through this presentation for us. It's essentially four projects. The premier project would be St. Lucie West widening. Then it would be repaving sidewalk master plan projects, as well as some stormwater projects. To not take it on any farther, I'll turn it over to Eric. Thank you.

2:45:27Speaker 28

And with regard to the sidewalks, that would be, we already have a 10-year sidewalk master plan. It would be the next plan going forward. Correct.

2:45:35 – 2:55:12Speaker 7

Which we'll bring back before council. Yes. Yes, ma'am. Good evening, Madam Mayor, Madam Vice Mayor, City Council, City Manager's Office, Attorney's Office, and staff and residents. What we've been asked to do is present to you our proposal for how the half-cent sales tax would be spent and utilized should it be approved on the ballot, if it makes the ballot. And I'll answer a couple of questions that came up earlier related to sidewalk master plan as an example. But we did want to call out and make sure that the residents are aware that this does require placement on the ballot. And then it would require an approval by a majority of the voters. It is not a super majority. It's a it's a majority. And under our current and proposed half-cent sales tax program for the next 10 years, we look at three kind of components. Better roads, more sidewalks, and cleaner rivers. And so on last Wednesday at the summer workshop, we presented to council and the residents and staff really four presentations. One was on St. Lucie West. One was on half-cent sales tax, one was on the CIP projects, and one was on stormwater. What we've tried to do is consolidate here a little bit more information and seek your guidance on if this meets the council's will. So we've identified four categories rather than four projects that would be utilizing the funding from the half-cent sales tax if it were approved for the 2029 through 2038 10-year plan. First and foremost is St. Lucie West Boulevard widening and improvements. It is a key focus. It is also something that the TPO has recommended be focused on. It is something that affects really the entire city in terms of connectivity. The second priority would be resurfacing citywide. The third priority would be sidewalk and community connections, also citywide. And then the fourth category would be water quality and drainage improvements citywide that would be outside of the stormwater fee funding. For St. Lucie West Boulevard widening, the challenge was that it is a major corridor that experiences peak hour congestion and crashes, and that was highlighted during the presentation last Wednesday. The solution is to widen St. Lucie West Boulevard and would provide significant operational improvements. And the benefit is to ensure that the major corridor of the city allows traffic to move safely and effectively. For resurfacing citywide, the challenge is managing the city's existing roadway network and balancing other priorities for both funding and a limited budget. The solution, being a timely and effective maintenance, can extend the pavement's life and reduce costly replacement in the future. And the benefit is that it provides for enhanced safety for vehicle and pedestrian travel. Freshly resurfaced roadway has environmental benefits and requires less maintenance and enhances the overall appearance and improves fuel efficiency. And we'll talk a little bit more of each of these as we get into the deck. Under sidewalk and community connections, again citywide, this is the challenge of expanding the sidewalk network with an emphasis on connecting communities to local services. Construct the sidewalks listed in the updated sidewalk master plan within 10 years. And then the benefit is providing residents with a safe place to walk and bike to schools, parks, businesses, and local services, promoting exercise, a healthy lifestyle, and a reduction in vehicle trips. Sidewalks also promote safety and connectivity. For the proposed half cent sales tax revenue, we worked with the finance department. Just a little bit of background. The current 10-year half cent sales tax, which has been approved and ratified by the voters and expires in 2028, we expect to generate approximately another $45.8 million over the remaining 10-year life of that program. That information was utilized along with other information by finance to generate a projection of the next 10 year should it be approved by both to be placed on the ballot and then approved by the voters. And we're looking at approximately 173.9 million over that next 10 year period that would take us through 2038. I know this is a difficult slide to read but it is in the materials and what we were trying to call out is in the first column are the years and we tried to look at this by year because the projections are by year. And the projected revenue if you notice on the bottom second column is that 173.9 million. the next column is st lucie west and we've earmarked 120 million on that project as we go through the next phase of planning and design as that number becomes more clear as to what the actual requirements are to do the build we will refine that number and then potentially any number that is different than that that's lower we would then be able to allocate to one of the other three categories And that's St. Lucie West Boulevard. The next one is resurfacing. And again, we'll touch on this a little bit more in the deck. But as you can see, we're allocating a significant amount in the first two years of the plan to try to catch up because we also know that funding has been lowered in the last two years of the current 10 years. And so we have placed additional revenue in there to help offset. to allow us to continue that with approximately $31.6 million for resurfacing, funded specifically by the Half-Cent Sales Tax Program. We also fund that through alternate means, and I'll touch on that in a minute. For sidewalk and community connections, we've earmarked $1.5 million per year to address sidewalks, with a total for that 10-year period, should it be approved, of $15 million. This is specifically, again, for half-cent sales tax, but we have other programs that help in terms of sidewalk connectivity. And then the final category was the water quality and drainage improvements. Again, the cleaner river component. And we've earmarked three specific projects, which we'll touch on in a moment, and then some additional funding for smaller intermediate things that will also help with water quality, and that's 7.3 million. And again, over on the total right, we balanced 173.9 million. Under resurfacing, this is a little more detailed plan, but what we did want to call out for the board as well is just the reminder that for resurfacing and rejuvenation, We actually have two funding sources, but we would not be able to deliver on the commitment that was made of making sure that we hit 50% of our roads every 10 years so that we basically recycle through our road program every 20 years, which is on the high end of the state average, which runs somewhere between 15 and 20 years. The second column is the actual proposed resurfacing from the sales tax, which would be the 31.6 million that I mentioned on the earlier slide. And we just wanted to call out that there's also a significant chunk that comes from the gas tax as well, which is the 87.8. So we're committing, if this is approved on the half-cent sales tax side, to about 119.4 million over a 10-year plan for resurfacing. From a sidewalk standpoint, and I should just go back to that as well. This is obviously subject to city council's approval on the existing resurfacing plan that is renewed every year and projects out the next 10 years. We also do purchase orders at the beginning of the year for all of the programs so that we can get those lined up and assigned. And we mentioned that gas tax is also used for roadway preservation, which we don't do out of half cent sales tax. On the sidewalk and community connections, again, back to the 1.5 million for the total of 15 million, with the caveat that we will be coming back to council with an actual next 10-year sidewalk master plan, as we described last week on Wednesday, so that you'll have an opportunity to give us direction on what that plan is. It will list out the specific sidewalks so that the next 10 years, again, should this be approved, would be the sidewalks that we focused on. And the last of the four components of the half-cent sales tax is the cleaning rivers through water quality and drainage improvements. We've listed three specific projects which were unfunded mandates, and that's the Hogpen stormwater treatment area, and that's a water quality project for $3 million. The Veterans Memorial Phase 4 and 5 water quality project at $1.7 million. And the Erosa Prima Vista Boulevard drainage improvements at $1.3 million. And then again, some additional neighborhood water quality improvements, which would be citywide for another $1.4 million. And again, that totals the $7.4 million. As I mentioned earlier, these are unfunded mandates, and that's why we chose to weave them into the absent sales tax outside of the stormwater. And again, this is for neighborhood water quality improvements, and they will be spread throughout the life of the 2029-2038 absent sales tax program should it be approved. And that was the presentation. Any questions?

2:55:12Speaker 28

Thank you. Any questions?

2:55:14 – 2:55:36Speaker 7

We would like to seek your guidance on approving this approach should the actual half-cent sales tax measure be placed on the ballot and approved. This would be where we'd like to go with the plan, and then we would obviously continue to come back to you with the resurfacing plans, which are updated every year for the 10 years, and a new sidewalk master plan for the actual plan related to sidewalks.

2:55:36 – 2:55:49Speaker 20

Thank you. Councilwoman? So on the... There's not a slight number. Proposed spending by year 2029-38. The main one?

2:55:51Speaker 7

The one that has the four columns? Yes.

2:55:54 – 2:56:30Speaker 20

So I see that the projected revenue goes up incrementally, and it also needs to be noted, and I'm sure we all are going to say this, this is not just the residents of St. Lucie County paying the sales tax. This is anybody that comes... into St. Lucie County and purchases something. Visitors, tourists, employees that live in another county, so they help with the burden. The next one under the resurfacing proposed timeline and expenditures, it's late, proposed resurfacing sales tax.

2:56:31Speaker 28

I may want to slide over one. There.

2:56:33 – 2:56:54Speaker 20

Yes, ma'am. So the proposed timeline here or the sales tax goes from 8.8 to 10 down to 2.6 and then down, down, down to 1 million. And then I look at the other one, the proposed resurfacing gas tax. This is revenue, correct?

2:56:55 – 2:57:17Speaker 7

Correct. Well, this is expenditures for clarity. The revenue, the two years that are the $8.8 million under the resurfacing sales tax and the $10 million, those are higher. That's our proposed expenditure to make sure that we stay on track with meeting the... Because I saw proposed resurfacing sales tax and I thought it was...

2:57:17Speaker 20

coming in, and then I looked at the expenditures, and I'm like, something didn't. Yes, ma'am.

2:57:22Speaker 7

So that column is the expenditure column.

2:57:24Speaker 20

And so is the proposed resurfacing gas tax. Yes, ma'am. That is expenditure. Yes. Thank you. I'm done. I'm good.

2:57:33Speaker 22

Eric, you said the resurfacing program would be about 20 years.

2:57:38Speaker 7

So the goal has always been, and the commitment is, to try to hit every 20 years, every road.

2:57:46Speaker 22

Okay, so hang on just a second. I'm going to play with this. Okay. How many miles, lane miles, are we responsible for?

2:57:53Speaker 7

I'll defer to Colt for the total, but I do know.

2:57:56Speaker 22

That's why I wanted to ask that question. Thank you.

2:58:01Speaker 10

So we have 926 centerline miles, and that equates to roughly 1,933 total lane miles, if I'm recalling from memory correctly.

2:58:10 – 2:58:22Speaker 22

Thank you. I just want to make sure that was put out there because every 20 years sounds like a lot, but when we're responsible for 1,800, 1,900 miles, it kind of goes full circle. Thank you.

2:58:24 – 2:58:56Speaker 7

And just to follow up on that, if I may, from the presentation on Wednesday, as Thomas mentioned, that is all based on the rolling resurfacing program that comes before council, and they look at the PCI scores and the amount of traffic. If there's two roads that have the same PCI and one has more traffic, that's the road that gets the attention first. And then, as I mentioned earlier, the half-cent sales tax is only for repaving. So when we're doing the roadway preservation component, which he described, that would be coming out of gas sales tax. But that also helps to extend the life.

2:58:58Speaker 28

Any other questions?

2:58:59Speaker 10

If I just may add, I'm sorry, to be accurate, it's 1,988 lane miles.

2:59:03Speaker 14

And Colt, if we drive 1,938 miles, what city do we end up in?

2:59:10Speaker 28

Holton, Maine. From Key West, Florida to Holton, Maine is the distance.

2:59:18 – 2:59:50Speaker 26

That's the number I have in my presentation. I think that too in the future as we have that conversation, it helps to kind of give comparatives to large cities. Because even if you take like Orlando, some of these cities that were the third largest in land size, you would be surprised of like the comparison of how many lane miles we're responsible for in comparison to other people One is, I just want to say that this is a renewal, correct? So this is, we already have a sales tax. This is a renewal. This is not a new thing.

2:59:50Speaker 7

If it goes on the ballot, but yes.

2:59:51 – 3:00:28Speaker 26

Correct. Also, in the discussion, in the larger discussion of property taxes, this is one of the very few tools that we have in our toolbox to be able to diversify our revenue stream. BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE FROM A MUNICIPALITY STANDPOINT. SO THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TOOL. AND IT ALSO IS A VERY IMPORTANT TOOL BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO FRONT LOAD OUR PROJECTS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. BECAUSE IF WE JUST DID THIS FROM THE GENERAL FUND, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROJECTS YOU'RE PROPOSING, IF WE JUST UTILIZE GENERAL FUND REVENUE SOURCES, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO COMPLETE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING TO COMPLETE?

3:00:30Speaker 7

It would never get completed.

3:00:31 – 3:02:12Speaker 26

Okay. Because I was just going to say, I feel like we're looking at a 10-year plan versus a 30-year plan. A couple things. I'm glad we have preliminary discussions in regards to what we would like to see happen. No different than the last time we did this. I do want to see a full-fledged ordinance with specific projects that would come forward for approval if this was to move forward. And that would go for this year for sure. And then we would obviously still probably have by requirement there will be a sales tax board. That board will also then oversee, and it's made up of citizens, of how the expenditures are done. And for future discussion, too, because I want to make sure we lay down the foundation if this goes on the ballot that obviously we're not promoting because we can't promote approval or denial. But I do want to look into the... how do we share with the residents without looking like we're promoting we're educating that this was the sales tax that you already passed and here all the projects were completed because i think they would be very surprised to see basically everything we've we've done pretty much everything's been completed which is virtually impossible with the level of inflation that we've had in the last 10 years and all these other aspects i think that's an important story to tell And then I guess the last question I have is, because there's been a continual discussion in regards to whether this will be placed on the ballot or not placed on the ballot, what have you learned, Mr. City Attorney, in regards to the city and having the ability to place this on the ballot? Because I believe we should let the voters decide, obviously property tax, how they want to address that, but then they usually decide if they want to be able to utilize the sales tax as an option as well.

3:02:13 – 3:03:09Speaker 8

Right. So I guess after the workshop and looking into the matter and Florida statutes, as you all know, the city of Fort Pierce and ourselves and the county all got together and had Fort Pierce and ourselves passed resolutions, essentially setting the surtax rate at a half a cent, calling for the referendum. And I think it's public knowledge that the county had a meeting on Tuesday where there was some trepidation and a discussion on whether to extend that, to place the referendum on a ballot later than 2026. So there's an issue there. I've had some initial fruitful discussions with both the county attorney and the attorney for the supervisor of elections on that matter. I anticipate having more conversations and the subsequent item before you be a resolution kind of formalizing all of that and moving this forward.

3:03:11 – 3:03:53Speaker 7

And Madam Vice Mayor, if I may just answer or I guess add to what you asked about the Citizen Surtax Committee. Our plan, for those that are not aware, obviously the board is, but for the public, we do have a Citizen Surtax Committee. It meets regularly, quarterly. We provide monthly updates to that committee. We also provide quarterly updates to that committee. And then there is an annual presentation to that committee, and then that committee presents quarterly. to you all on the dais in terms of the success and commitment of spending that money appropriately on the half-cent sales tax commitments that are made in the various plans that we submit before the council. So that is our plan to do that, again, should this pass and be extended through the next 10-year cycle.

3:03:54 – 3:04:05Speaker 20

So one last comment. You had me at St. Lucie West Boulevard. Yeah, exactly. And I think you would have everyone at St. Lucie West Boulevard, so...

3:04:09 – 3:04:22Speaker 28

okay all right we're good we're good with the presentation as uh presented to us yes everyone do we need a motion on that pres on the presentation to accept it

3:04:23Speaker 8

Do you guys want a motion for approval?

3:04:24Speaker 7

Yes, I believe our intent would be to ask for a motion so that we can at least move forward and go to the next step once we're appropriately able to do so.

3:04:31Speaker 28

Just want to make sure. So is there a motion?

3:04:33Speaker 22

Motion to approve the HFSA sales tax as presented. Excuse me.

3:04:39Speaker 28

Second. Okay. I have a motion and a second. Any final discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.

3:04:48Speaker 28

Okay. Now we will do Resolution 26-R64.

3:04:52 – 3:05:30Speaker 25

A uniform resolution of the City of Port St. Lucie, Florida establishing the rate of an infrastructure surtax of a half cent on every dollar pursuant to Chapter 212 Florida Statutes. calling for a referendum on the surtax, calling upon the supervisor of elections of St. Lucie County to place the ballot question for the half-cent infrastructure surtax on the 2026 general election ballot as mandated by Florida law, directing transmission of this resolution to St. Lucie County and the supervisor of elections of St. Lucie County, providing for conflict, providing for severability, and providing an effective date. Thank you. Is there a motion? Motion to approve Resolution 26-R64.

3:05:30Speaker 26

Second. I have a motion and a second. Any discussion?

3:05:35 – 3:06:04Speaker 14

Well, I kind of want to ask a few things about this because I think the resolution is kind of superfluous. And I think that, if I'm correct, Mr. City Attorney, the city passed a resolution on, I think, February 23rd, somewhere around there, correct? That is correct. And the county followed up and passed an ordinance in March 17th, correct?

3:06:04Speaker 14

And did that ordinance expressly say that this referendum will be placed on the ballot in 2026? Yes.

3:06:12Speaker 8

The resolution sent forth the rate and called for the referendum.

3:06:16 – 3:06:35Speaker 14

And does the state statute say that the county may place an item on the ballot, but if a municipality And I'm paraphrasing here, that represents a majority of the population passes such a resolution that it shall be on the ballot.

3:06:36Speaker 8

That is precisely my reading of the statute.

3:06:39Speaker 14

So if something shall be done, that means that it's not discretionary. Is that correct?

3:06:45Speaker 8

That is also my understanding of the word shall.

3:06:47 – 3:06:58Speaker 14

So to... So in order to, and the deadline for getting something on the ballot is August 4th, correct?

3:06:58Speaker 8

I believe it's August 5th, but very, very close, yes.

3:07:01 – 3:07:13Speaker 14

Okay, and... And that's for publication, Councilman. And for an ordinance, you typically need 10 days of advertising or notice. Is that reasonable?

3:07:14Speaker 8

It depends on who's passing the ordinance. If it's the city, we would need two readings. We would need the appropriate... notice and the county, I believe, has one reading.

3:07:23Speaker 14

Okay, and that would be 10-day notice?

3:07:25Speaker 8

I believe it's 10, if I'm not mistaken.

3:07:27Speaker 14

And if they wanted to do it before 10 days, if they want to do an ordinance with less than 10 days, they would need a supermajority to pass that ordinance?

3:07:37Speaker 8

Yes, under the exception for counties, they would have to pass with a four to five, a four or higher vote.

3:07:45Speaker 14

Is August 5th more than 10 days from today?

3:07:51Speaker 8

I can count, but I believe it is not.

3:07:57Speaker 14

So in order to undo the ordinance that they passed, which expressly said it would be on the ballot in 2026, would they need to undo it with an ordinance?

3:08:08Speaker 8

Yes, that's kind of common doctrine under the law called legislative equivalency.

3:08:14 – 3:09:00Speaker 14

So, and the reason I bring all this up isn't to extend the meeting because it's late, but if we pass this, there's going to be a narrative out here that the city put this on the ballot, the city did this, the city did that. This is already done. It's finished. This is superfluous. And so... If four out of five county commissioners would be required to undo an ordinance under emergency procedures, they don't have that because two commissioners support it being on the ballot. So I'm going to vote no on this because I believe it's superfluous, and I just wanted to make that clear for the record about why I was voting no. Thank you. Understood.

3:09:01 – 3:10:20Speaker 26

Yes, go ahead. I agree with my colleague. You know, I mean, and obviously we follow recommendations from our city attorney and wanting to make sure that, and I understand legal, they want to make sure we button everything up to the way that it provides the city the most coverage in a disagreement like this. You know, for me, the reason why I supported the resolution was because, you know, the city has worked with the county and we continue to try to build a more collaborative relationship with the county. And there were some comments said at the last meeting that concern me as well. And I felt that this resolution was a way to give the county an opportunity to maybe have a better discussion in regards to the previous decisions that were made. So I thought that that would be, you know, I agree with the city attorney as far as making sure we do things as legally as possible, but then more importantly, cover, cover, cover, and then give an opportunity for better discussion. Um, but I'm fine with drawing my motion to be quite honest. And unless, I mean, is there something based upon councilman Bono's assessment, do you feel that we need to move forward with this or do you feel we have enough to move forward with what we have already?

3:10:23 – 3:10:59Speaker 8

I don't think, well I'll just say that. I don't think my legal position or my analysis of the statute changes and hinges upon the passing of this resolution. I think the logic is the same. Obviously, would it make me feel better? Sure. Be extra, extra sure. Why not? But, again, the legal position would remain the same, and my intent is to basically continue to collaborate and discuss with both the county attorney and the supervisor of elections attorney and state our position, preserve our rights, and do what I'm supposed to do with regard to that.

3:11:04 – 3:11:19Speaker 20

I'M OKAY WITH WITHDRAWAL, BUT I WANT TO CHECK ON THE SECOND TO SEE HOW THEY FEEL. DOES IT REALLY MATTER TO WITHDRAWAL? CAN YOU JUST TAKE A VOTE? BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR A MOTION IF YOU MAKE THE MOTION. JUST LET IT ROLL. I THINK IT SENDS A MESSAGE.

3:11:21 – 3:11:50Speaker 26

I THINK COUNCILMAN BONNA'S POINT IS CORRECT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY AGREED UPON, AND THEN THIS RESOLUTION ESSENTIALLY WILL SAY IT'S OUR FAULT THAT WE'RE THE ONES wanting it, but in reality they agreed to it for Pierce agreed to it and we agreed to it. So this is a three, this is a three party agreement. And now the County, it appears the County is trying to back up out of that ordinance. So to his point, why are we going to go out on a limb being like, this is just us. I agree with that position.

3:11:51 – 3:12:15Speaker 28

So then why don't we just let our city attorney have those conversations about what has already been approved. with the County attorney and the supervisor of elections. And then if there's a reason that we do need to come back and we do need to put forward the resolution, we can call a special meeting and do that. Yep.

3:12:16Speaker 26

So instead of voting against it, should I just table it? Yeah, we can table it. I withdraw my motion. Go ahead.

3:12:25Speaker 8

So long as council supports my efforts of advocating for the city in this regard, I think I'm comfortable with that overall. We can make a motion on that.

3:12:33 – 3:12:50Speaker 28

Well, absolutely. The statute is the statute. The statute says what it says. Like Councilman Bonner says, it says shall in two places, not just one place. And it says what it says. Understood. I don't even know how you can interpret it a different way.

3:12:51Speaker 26

That's why I was thinking.

3:12:51 – 3:13:07Speaker 28

Because the word shall is the word shall, not may. So I'm fine with that. Continuing on and. And if you need to come back to us, we can make sure we address it before the time period before August 5th.

3:13:08Speaker 26

And just for procedure, I removed my motion, but I don't know if the second person seconded it. Who seconded the motion?

3:13:14Speaker 20

I did, but I just don't understand why. I mean, if you're withdrawing it.

3:13:23Speaker 22

Mr. Barish, you have open dialogue with the county attorney?

3:13:26Speaker 8

Yes, both the county attorney and the supervisor of elections attorney.

3:13:30Speaker 26

Okay. So I will make a motion to table resolution 26-R64 to a date uncertain.

3:13:41Speaker 26

Okay. That way we can bring it back if we have to call a special meeting. If we don't, then it's going to be harder to bring it back.

3:13:48 – 3:14:00Speaker 20

I guess that's where I'm confused. It's a resolution. It's just sending a message and really giving you our support to go ahead and move forward. Okay. I don't quite understand.

3:14:06 – 3:14:40Speaker 8

So just like I said, if there's anything I can do to help I guess clarify it more again. Regardless of whether or not this resolution is passed, is denied, is tabled, my legal position won't change. I'm going to still have those same exact conversations I intended on having with both parties, assert our legal position as a collective as long as I have council support. And if there's some sort of escalation that necessitates some sort of legal proceeding or anything like that, I'll be coming back to you all kind of with hat in hand asking for permission.

3:14:41Speaker 20

Like in four days. Yeah.

3:14:44Speaker 8

Good things take time. Great things happen all at once.

3:14:48 – 3:14:59Speaker 28

That's a great quote. All right, so we have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Me. Motion passes.

3:14:59Speaker 20

I'm the weirdo.

3:15:00Speaker 28

All right, city manager's report.

3:15:05 – 3:15:28Speaker 23

Mayor and Council, just one quick announcement tonight. Beginning August 1st, the City of Port St. Lucie legal advertisements will primarily be published on the St. Lucie County Legal Notices Portal in accordance with updated statutory requirements. This change is cost effective, streamlines public access to legally required notices, improves transparency, and offers a centralized location. Residents may opt to receive notices by email or mail or by calling the City Clerk's office.

3:15:30Speaker 20

Thank you so much.

3:15:33 – 3:15:55Speaker 20

Councilwoman? On July 15th, I attended the fire board meeting. On the 16th, I did speak with the Realtors Association here locally, and on the 22nd and 23rd, along with everybody, I attended the summer workshop, and thank you to all of those who donated your ties.

3:15:57Speaker 28

Are you going to make those into a nice little presentation?

3:16:01 – 3:16:35Speaker 20

Yes, it's already in the new location and a presentation, and I will share photos. Awesome. All of them are being displayed. And then on the 24th, Friday, attended the long-awaited, but You know what? I think it happened a lot quicker than what I thought it was going to happen. The police training facility, absolutely gorgeous, state-of-the-art, just amazing, amazing. So enjoy and keep safe and keep updated and keep trained. Thank you.

3:16:38 – 3:17:01Speaker 22

All right. On the 21st, I went and did coffee with the council. 22nd and 23rd also attended the summer workshop. And on the 24th, the ribbon cutting at the police training building. I have to say there's a person sitting up here to my far right who showed her, how should I say it?

3:17:02Speaker 23

You don't want me to be a member of the police department?

3:17:04Speaker 22

Yes, you don't want her to be your protector because The gun come out and instead of, instead of running toward the danger, she ran away from it.

3:17:15Speaker 28

She was shooting as she was running.

3:17:17Speaker 22

So it was funny to see, it was funny to see her reaction.

3:17:21Speaker 28

Are you saying, is that in the Milo or was that in the taser one?

3:17:24Speaker 22

It was in the Milo.

3:17:26Speaker 22

So, um, but anyway, I was volunteered.

3:17:29Speaker 23

Thank you, councilman Pickett, but it was really just very realistic, which is great training for officers.

3:17:32 – 3:18:01Speaker 22

You're more than welcome. So for my announcement, are you looking for a job? You might find one in the community job fair on Thursday, August 13th from 3.30 to 6.30 p.m. at the Mid-Florida Event Center. Meet in person with employers who are hiring in Martin, St. Lucie, and Indian River counties. Veterans can participate early, starting at 3 p.m. The job fair is in collaboration with the CareerSource Research Coast and the City of Port St. Lucie. For more information, visit cityofpsl.com. That's all. Thank you.

3:18:01 – 3:19:17Speaker 20

Can he go to the person to the immediate right, not to the far right? I forgot to do my announcement. Go ahead. I'm so sorry. I apologize, but at least I got it done before it left this side. Don't let the opportunity pause you by... Who writes these? Port St. Lucie Animal Control is hosting a low-cost rabies and microchip drive-through clinic. Did they get a special exception? No, I'm kidding. From 8 a.m. to 2 p.m. Saturday, August 22nd. I'm in July. In the Animal Control parking lot on Southwest South Vecito Boulevard. That's a mouthful. For $20, pets will receive a one-year rabies vaccination, a microchip, and a city pet license. Learn more, pre-register your cat or dog, pslpolice.com. That, I don't know about y'all, I've got animals, and it costs a lot more than $20. So that is a deal, such a deal. Thank you.

3:19:17 – 3:19:31Speaker 26

Thank you. We don't have, they didn't give us announcement sheets. What? I don't have announcement sheets. A what? You, you? Announcement sheets? She forgot to give everyone an announcement sheet. Me and Bona don't have one.

3:19:31Speaker 23

Wait, wait, wait.

3:19:32 – 3:20:49Speaker 26

No, it's okay. It's fine. They're sharing. You could share it. As long as they didn't write anything. You didn't write anything on it, so then that four, okay, perfect. As long as you didn't write anything, we're good. Sorry. On 7-15, I attended the quarterly South Bend meeting. I want to thank all the staff that was there. I also want to thank our public works director, Colt. He's already working on some of the concerns that we had, so thank you very much. 7-22 to 7-23, the summer workshop. 7-24, the police training facility. And then Port St. Lucie once again is earning national recognition, this time from HGTV, which listed PSL among the 20 best mid-sized cities in the country. It highlights strong population growth, quality of life, beautiful parks and preserves, spring training at Clover Park, abundant outdoor recreation, and a family-friendly charm. This is a wonderful way to recognize our awesome city. And you know what's funny is that I was watching the news today, and they were talking about city sizes, and they said anything over 250 is a large city. So I saw mid-size on this, and I was like, I don't know. I think we're officially large, so we'll see how that goes. I think we are.

3:20:52 – 3:21:38Speaker 14

all right thank you um so i attended the workshop as well as the police training facility and my announcement small business owners can soar to new heights through the cisney city's business accelerator program sponsored by the indian river state college's school of continuing education it's a 10-week course that teaches the skills and the techniques needed to lead a small business to growth productivity and profitability classes are every wednesday starting august 5th at irsc's pruitt campus visit cityofpsl.com forward slash events to register thank you thank you that's why i attended fire board i spoke in front of the caribbean american cultural group

3:21:39 – 3:22:40Speaker 28

Police Training Facility, Summer Workshop, of course, Humane Society Board Meeting, and Florida Coast Medical Center Board Meeting. And my announcement is... year two of the love your block projects kick off this week we're grateful to have exceptional community partners joining us this year including the united way boys and girls club st lucie skaters windmill point elementary school and more we also extend heartfelt thanks to the local businesses that have generously contributed to this work all american signs and graphics nature's keeper MOZZARELLA PIZZERIA, CUSTOM WELDING DIVERSIFIED, AND OTHERS. THIS YEAR, NINE UPCOMING PROJECTS FUNDED THROUGH MINI GRANT SUPPORT POWERED BY THE BLOOMBERG CENTER FOR PUBLIC INNOVATION AT JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY WILL BRING NEW CREATIVITY, PUBLIC ART, AND NEIGHBORHOOD PRIDE TO WHISPERING PINES. BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE COMING WEEKS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SO WE'RE ADJOURNED.

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