Planning Board - Regular Meeting

I would like to open this meeting of the Council of Urbanism. A formal notice, such as the one issued by section 10, section 81 and the following of the NGSA, has been provided at least 48 hours before the date of today. Given the time of the date and the place as known to this day, the order of the day of the meeting, this notice indicated that an official measure could or could not be taken. The notice was displayed on the signboard outside the offices of the municipal attorney, reserved for this announcement and other similar announcements, has been provided to the newspaper designated by the Municipal Council to receive its opinions, and three have been submitted to the count. I swear allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and the Republic that it represents. A nation under the authority of God, indivisible, with freedom and justice for all. Okay, the first thing we have to do is to make the call, please.

Okay, M. Simone. M. Eudo. M. Truss. Dr. Van Dexter. M. Balwin. M. Keating. M. Guzman. Mersa. Counselor Sander. And M. Foster. And M. Renaud.

Thank you all. Welcome everyone. We hope you all had a great summer. There is a lot of work to do, but welcome everyone, and I would like to officially welcome Kari to the Council of Urbanism. She did a good job while you were all having a nice, quiet summer. She had a lot of delays to catch up, and she did very well. In fact, congratulations to the police for the text, easier to read. But still, Kari, welcome. Thank you. We will see that the council... quite active once things have started to move and we welcome you on board.

Thank you.

We have the verbal trial of the ordinary meeting of April 21, 2026. Have you all had the opportunity to examine it and what do you think? Approval motion. Approval motion M-Trust. What was it?

Oh, M-Bolton.

All those who are for. Someone opposes. And it's adopted. Okay, under the invoices, there was, because there was such a long delay between the last meeting and now I'm going to sign the first invoices, which are this first category that Kari added. Total amount of 1.045 dollars. So it is not necessary to discuss it because they have already been returned to the administrator. So, the second, third and fourth are for Marsilly Falcon. Call your engineering. And another one from Marsilly Falcon. Most of its fees are standard. So unless someone has a problem with one of them, I just need a motion to approve them and send them to the city administrator. Propose a motion to pay the bills. M leaves.

Second.

M Guzman. Who is it for? Correspondence and service notes. There are two or three points that we can talk about. The first is the legislation of the state of New Jersey concerning electric vehicles, but I read it. It will simply change the way you can get credits for electric vehicles and what you have to provide in a development, certain developments to get credits. the way you count the total power available in the system rather than by individual station. Is there anything else valid in there? That's what I understand.

I didn't read it in detail to make an exposition, but that's what I understand.

Next slide in New Jersey's legislation on the Wayne arrondissement and the supplement for Rome, chapter 134, the development of the territory. The Waynes have gone through many legal problems because of the law on equitable housing and a large part of what they do is to try to make their property according to their plan of equitable housing. So they fought and practically Lost, isn't it? In front of the courts. And so they must now find a whole bunch of housing. And they're already starting to approve some housing, which poses a problem to some residents. But as we all know, we can't do much about the equitable housing plan.

This adds to the monstrosity of Valley Road.

How much do they have? It's the trial they lost. Yeah, that's what happened, isn't it? They fought and lost. Units over there?

You have an idea?

There are thousands of units. I mean, you know, it's a big city. It's about fifty thousand inhabitants and their obligations are very high. Yeah, I heard someone who lives for Dordache over there. He said, once you've passed the closest places to Valley Road, there are a lot of empty places in the back, but that's Wayne's problem, not ours. Yeah. And the biggest piece, I think, is at the intersection of Hambourg and Valley in this General zone, but they approve other zones, managage. They're just doing another one near the old Rockledge Garden Center. They have... They have... Another townhouse, I think they're going to go there.

Townhouses, okay.

Townhouses in the back.

Residential houses, so... Then it's going to be right there. Townhouses, with a long alley over there. And then residential houses.

Residential houses in the back? We don't let them pass over the fence. Once you're in the back. Okay. Hectares over there. I mean, it looks great. They did very good work. It would be really good if you widened the highway over there because you go up. And I'm sure these houses will be a good market.

They fought against this construction because they wanted the work to be carried out on this road.

Because there is no accoutrement there. Not even 60 cm of accoutrement. You are just against the bend in the direction of Wayne. Once again, it's their problem. Okay, the main reason why I wanted to organize this meeting, in addition to making sure that we all knew each other, was to talk about the director's plan. The director's plan must be redone in 2027 and we have formed a committee. John Keating is the president and the goal of the preliminary things we talked about this year was just to discuss between us and between the committee members John will review the members of the committee and what they did. But all this is only preliminary, just to have an idea of the direction we want to take. What the mayor and the council will expect is a recommendation from this council as to whether we want to opt for a new full-time director plan or an update of the existing plan, which goes back to 2017. And one of the things we have to do as a group with the committee's contribution is to decide If we recommend or not to the office to make a plan or another. And the biggest difference is time and money. The time needed to make a full plan will probably take a whole year. A update, not quite. A whole year and the difference in amount is enough important for them to worry about it for budgetary reasons. Mike, I'm sure he'll have something to say about it later. What I would like to do now is just to discuss, start with John, ask him to give us a quick point. I know that there is not much to say for now, but once we have thought about it, we really have to sit down with their recommendations and decide as a planning committee to make a recommendation. I would like to do it in November, Mike. Yes, I mean, what is the deadline you would need?

So, just to let everyone know, you all know what we're talking about. But you know, it's quite expensive to do a complete project. You know, it could be 100 or 1,000 dollars.

Or more.

To do a short project. It's not something that remains in our budget, ready to be used, is it? So we should set up a budget line, find the money to pay for it and do it. I'm not saying we're not going to do it. And that's why we have to start now. In a year. The budgets must therefore be submitted in January, we are starting our new budget.

And it will come into force for the following year. For the following year.

So if that's the way you want to follow, yes, I would say that you will let them know that we are moving towards this by November. Now, you know, I think that John will talk about the other negative aspect, it's a quarter of the price, but these are solutions. These are just additions to remedy them. I know that the price should not be a problem in your way of doing things, especially for your board of directors. But it's a problem on our side, believe me.

That's why we recommend it. The other thing is that with these directives, for 10 years already, many rules change. And when they change, they affect what the council can approve. The other thing we have seen in the past is that, for example, when the Ringwood and Hamburg Turnpike car wash was approved here, The zoning of this one, authorized lavoto. So it was a bit like buried in there, but if you look at the capacities, I think it was the B2 zone in there, among all the other things. There was a lavoto... So when they came here before the council, I don't think anyone was happy to install a lavoto in this corner. But unfortunately, it was an authorized use, unless a derogation is necessary to do it, justifying its rejection. then you really end up going to court. Because that's what would have happened if we had said, no, let's not think that this is a good place. But your plan director says it's acceptable. Your zoning regulation says it's acceptable. So there is a combination of two things that happen. The plan director must dictate the planning. then the zoning regulation must be updated so that it corresponds to the intention of the director's plan. And this is what we follow, zoning regulations, to determine exactly what we can do. Thus, zone B1, for example, is the one that we will examine. And this is something that we would also make a recommendation to the surrounding area. Even if the director's plan is his own body, you will somehow link them, you must link them. So, John, that being said, can you give us a brief overview of their involvement so far? Thank you, Mr. President. When we created the committee for the director's plan, I suppose, which was developed in 2007, then we proceeded to a revaluation in 2017. So, while we were approaching two or three years, we had to wait two or three years for the director's plan to be re-evaluated. Over the years, we have formed a committee. For some members are no longer with us and we have therefore added new things. During our first director's plan, we noticed that the map of the zoning council was not correct. There were a few elements. The names of the runes were not there, they were not up to date, etc. We then targeted the zoning map and we said to ourselves, very well, let's take each of the zones. We will target each of them and say, hey, what we want, for example, because that takes us to the nose about the auto wash. We therefore wanted to examine each of the zones and see if they were correctly mapped.

Then, when we came back to the planning council and we discussed what we were doing, the councilor of the urban planning office told us that we were too early.

We were too early and I think she recommended that it probably wasn't for the end of 2027 and that it would only take six months to do it. So we said to ourselves, well, we're going to put that aside and we're just going to develop the corrections that we'll see. So we talked about finances, especially at that time. I think the planner said, you know, we really didn't need to get you started on the big project. Even if I could say that Tim, Brian and I were with us, we kind of examined the question and we said to ourselves, you know, it's really because it's been 20 years, when we think about it, 2007, it should really be redone. You know, a complete master. But the planner's advice was that you had time to do it. So we kind of put it aside. So we probably only had two meetings since then and since the summer and probably at the beginning of this year, we haven't met. So I sent an email to say that we usually meet on the first Tuesday of the month because it's a bit easy for everyone. So I set the date of the next meeting in October, I think it's the 5th or the 6th. So we're going to start everything over and ask ourselves which direction to take, knowing what the office is looking for, which direction we want to take.

Here is a summary of the situation with the committee.

Andy, do you want to intervene before we discuss it? No, fortunately, lawyers usually stay out of it. It's a matter of clarifying. Well, but I agree with what's going on. Legally, you don't need to make any news. You can continue to make updates and that's not... So, legally, you fulfill your obligation. It's a political decision we're going to make if the subcommittee examines it and says, this thing is completely out of place. It could be based on the formulation of a recommendation. I have not examined it, but it is only a policy. From my point of view, you are in line if you just update, but if it's bad, at some point, it becomes so obsolete that most people say... I have not examined the planning, the planning function. I would examine it if I wanted to, but it's not... And according to your vast experience with planning and other advice, you find that the deadline is... Souvent de six mois, dix ans ou sept mois. C'est généralement bien. Si vous allez faire tout un truc, vous savez, un tout nouveau truc, ça prend un an. C'est un budget annuel. Annuel. Ce qui m'inquiétait, c'est que si la recommandation de ce conseil est de continuer pour l'année et que l'arrondissement est d'accord, nous devons commencer tout de suite avant la fin de l'année. Juste pour nous lancer et impliquer Christen. Mon intention était de faire venir Christen à une réunion avant la fin de l'année afin d'aider L'ensemble du Conseil a donné une réponse à l'arrondissement et aussi, si nécessaire, de rencontrer le comité de jeunes pour parler de... Je suis désolé.

C'est exactement ce que je pensais. De rencontrer notre comité et ainsi nous pourrons l'examiner et elle pourrait nous donner un meilleur aperçu de ce qui doit être fait et dans quelle mesure, vous savez, ce qui manque et vous savez, nous donner un petit aperçu de la question. because I've never seen it. So I won't be able to tell you, like at this stage, I won't be able to tell you if it requires a full exam or an update. So I think the best thing to do with all this is for John Thiem to meet the urban planner if we could organize a meeting and see what she thinks of him or the person who will meet us.

Well, you organize your own meeting for the beginning of October. October, we have a meeting in October. You can invite her to this meeting to give us a general overview, then you can choose the day where you want to meet her as a committee.

Should we meet her before? I think that... Because you said that she had to make a recommendation.

November. So, October.

If we meet her, if we invite her to the meeting that John has just scheduled for October, she will come to our October meeting. We may have recommendations for the rest of the month and we will be able to give you better indications on this subject.

By November, we will be able to share our thoughts with the mayor and to involve him as soon as possible so that we can determine the best thing to do for the surrounding area. And I will leave the floor to the committee. You want to meet her, just ask Carrie to organize the meeting with Kristen for your October meeting. What day was it? 6, the 6th meeting. And then... I don't know. We have our October meeting, Carrie. What we are going to do is that we will have a specific point at the time of the day so that the urban planner is present at the meeting. And we can discuss certain things. And then that will give us the opportunity to think about it.

And then by the end of the November meeting... November. You mean that the 3rd of March is during the Municipal League, I believe.

So I don't know if people don't know if it's the real problem.

You still have it, it's like that.

Well, I didn't want to throw it away. Yeah, no, you're right.

It always interferes. Leave me. You ask another question. So, if we do an update, is the update shorter? You know, like in the measure where... Yeah, you don't help because you don't rewrite the choices.

Often, when you make a whole new one, you say, this language, this introduction, the objectives and all that, we're going to leave it. We're just going to, we have three new objectives. The gig, or trans, the circulation, or the other elements, you're just going to add them. With a new one, you tend to, and the planner tends to rewrite a lot of big pieces. So that's the case, yes.

So we really have to do, we have to talk to the planner, examine it and say, very well, what has changed?

So, you know, 10 things have changed, or 100 things have changed, or 100 things have changed. You know, if 10 things have changed, maybe we could make an update. If 100 things had changed, well, it may not be possible to do that.

One of the big changes of 2007, which has changed several times, was that the T1,

of Dupont was a golf course. Now it's completely out of question. It has since been resumed for other uses. So you know, if someone comes to do a project and receives the director's plan, which is a 2007 plan, he must look at the 2017 plan to see what has changed compared to the 2007 plan. Then he will have to look at the 2027 plan to see what has changed compared to 2017 and 2007.

So it's just not clean. Which is obviously more. It's a faster process. Faster and cheaper. So we have to get her to come and decide how she's going to do it. Let's say the plan director makes 100 pages. and that there are a lot of things in the city where nothing is really going to change, whether it's the residential sector or something else, if nothing changes in these things, if we end up changing just a few paragraphs in all this and that it only focuses on the areas of commercial development or something else, it seems to me that you can't redo everything. It's like putting a new character police or something else.

it will not necessarily do you much.

But I think, and I agree with you, but I agree 100%. I mean, I don't know which law, whatever the regulations or the laws, would change. And that could really affect, and Christelle knows better, than other large parts of the city. What Jim raises is that... And Brian, it becomes a complicated proposition to work with all these different levels. You should know that someone can tell you something and tell you, no, it's from 2007, you can watch the part of 2017, you don't know when it will be, Brian. Is there a way to consolidate this without making a full plan, but make a new plan? Or should everything be?

Yes, in general, I've always seen it as an update. So you have 2007, but you also have when a planner talks about the variation he talked about in 2000, you must have examined the plans of 2007 and 2017. They are generally not consolidated.

So these are two small modifications. So you know, here is the plan. It's 17, it's 27. You get it. You don't present. You don't reprint or anything else. So Andy, can we... And this may be a question for Christen. Can we not give him directives to say, as Bill said, that 80% of the city will not change? 80% of the director's plan itself will not change. We don't have land to build houses. We are not building new roads. We are not doing any of that. We can therefore tell him, don't do anything with these 80%, don't redo these 20%, we will call it a complete refund.

Financially, does this change the price of the ticket considerably, or is it just as soon as it happens?

I hope so. You know, once again, it will be a question for her, grammatically, Mike.

I don't know if professionally she will be happy to say, ouch, okay, the world I prepared and our names beyond, I prepared a brand new director's plan, but I cut and pasted other sections. Better. I think she may have a little professional problem doing things this way. She could, I'm not sure, but I think that if you want her to sign something and say that it acts as a brand new director's plan, she could have a problem.

These two questions she asked him when she was there. Yes, absolutely. And that's why I didn't want her to do it.

I didn't want her to come tonight only because we had to talk about it, but we come to a conclusion. A, we're going to set up a meeting committee with Kristen. B, you're going to talk about the advantages and disadvantages of these questions you were asking. And in fact, if someone else has questions, ask John so that he can ask them when he meets her. When we sit down with her as a board of directors, we will have, I'm sure, other questions. And according to all the answers to the questions, we could decide to give them an immediate answer to the rounding. We could decide to digest a little more, I don't know. Well, I can't.

I'm going to speak in the name of the office because, again, I'm not talking in the name of the office. But in general, if what you just said and that she is ready to do what she did, it's easier to sell to the office of... and get a new board of directors rather than having to choose between spending all this money for a new board of directors or just leveling up. So if there is a fair environment, I think that the municipal council could perhaps opt for it again, but I don't know if they will do it. This is what we have to discuss. I like the idea of ​​saying that 80% of things do not change and that 20% must be changed. A way to fix this. Because reinventing the wheel for things that already exist and that will not change simply makes no sense.

I would also like to highlight that this is essentially a big hypothetical debate for the moment and that in reality it will be based on needs. We must examine the plans of 2007 and 2017 and we need the urban planning expert's expertise to tell us what needs to be done. Then when he says, hey, you should really do this and that and that, we will see the full extent of the work that can be done and then we can start to regroup and ask ourselves what we can regroup and ask ourselves what we can really do with our budget. Is it the right way to see things? Is it the right way to see things? Is it the right way to see things?

It's a good way to see things, but don't forget that the other is the question and that the court that we are examining will have to do with a large part of the redevelopment of the city center, right? So we have just made a level with the urban planner and Mike was part of these groups as well as the court group where we updated the recommendations to people who are building in the city. They are not yet in the form of an ordinance, they are recommendations, but these recommendations modify the way we want things to be done in the city. I suppose you would have accepted that, because some of you are members of the court that made this decision. These are the things you could want to integrate into the board plan, right?

I would also say that as the youngest member of the council, I noticed J'ai vu un crétin, et que j'ai vu la ville s'améliorer considérablement au cours de ma vie et aussi avec le réaménagement du centre-ville. Parfois je passe devant les parcs, ou à Nakav, je passe devant les écoles et les terrains et je me dis wow c'est une ville qui est vraiment différente et à bien des égards meilleure que celle dans laquelle je me souviens avoir grandi. And from 2007 to 2026, a lot of time has passed.

You were a baby at the time.

Go ahead. So yes, it's a bit crazy that we were able to settle for the 2007 plan and its amendments until today.

So part of what has just been mentioned is in this discussion about the rearrangement that we had in the hands of members of the coordinating committee. And they made suggestions for the color palette that we would like to use. I'm not saying that you can't use blue, green or yellow, but we would like the promoters to examine this palette of colors or the facades to which they should resemble. I think it's a lot of things that we want to address as soon as possible at the Council of Urbanism, and it will give it more weight when you make your decisions, because it is now printed. It's about knowing how to integrate it into the director's plan. That's the real question that Kristen is asking. By the way, Kristen did all the work for me.

Bill. I'm sorry. You were part of this committee.

Did you think of anything in particular that seemed important to you in relation to what Mike is talking about, about these plans?

But it would still be useful for the board of directors to be a copy of it and for the committee to take care of it within the group. We could maybe ask

Christen sent something and Michael Carelli sent it to the committee.

We may have to make you all come back. In this way, we can all digest a little, but it will also be ready for the committee, even if Christen leaves. It will be right in front of them.

President Merzard, may I ask a question to the lawyer? Thank you. Sir, I just want to make sure that if it is not in the director's plan, Our base of authority is to know if something is consistent or not with the director's plan, right? And then... When we make a decision on something, it is based on the question of knowing if it is consistent or not with the director's plan.

A derogation. One of the things they have to do regarding the negative criteria is to know if it will have a negative impact on the area, the area or the zoning plan, which is essentially your director's plan. They must therefore demonstrate, okay, I want a derogation to have, you know, a retreat of two feet in the city center, rather than eight feet. And they must show that it will not have a negative and drastic impact on your director's plan. It is not terribly incompatible with your director's plan. If your plan director, on the other hand, had recommended, listen, we should never have a retreat of less than 10 feet because it's a terrible and dramatic thing that really changes the city or our village, then this derogation would have an impact on the plan director. It would be in contrast with that of someone who asks for this derogation and the plan director says nothing about it. It is written, yes, we recommend them because they are standard, but you know, they have not done much. It is therefore at this moment that the plan director comes into play in the negative pressure.

Yes, but I can see Mère Sarah doing something like integrating these aesthetic criteria of redevelopment or other criteria in the director's plan, which could give us more discretion and authority, because we remain silent on something that we had not thought of in 2007.

But don't forget that this is a redevelopment project, we go through the redevelopment. So we are in a way turning the Council of the Real. But if it's not about redevelopment, then it's the entire redevelopment.

This always leads us to redevelopment, but we are limited in what we can do once we have it. This is the difference between a project of the Council of Urbanism that comes directly and a project that goes through the redevelopment. In addition, I will give you a vocabulary word to remember. Due to our famous legal profession, there is a thing called incompatible. How does it work? Do you want to explain it? The religious there would be very happy. It's what they do. It's the norm. You're supposed to find something that's not incompatible with the director's plan. It's a terrible hecatomb of the English language to say it that way, but that's how they would say it. You hear that, that simply means that it's cool.

So I think if I can intervene for a second, I think you might have a discussion now or at another time, where we will hear you ask these questions first.

You know, it seems to me that you have three choices. We make a meal in pieces.

As we did the last two, we put it together. And we do that. We develop a comprehensive director's plan, or maybe there is a hybrid somewhere, which we are simply not. And if the hybrid had to work, it would be much easier to sell to the council than the 150. This is the amount of dollars we got from funds. No, I'm just saying that. I'm not saying it won't happen, but it's hard to sell.

Well, that was the main reason for which we discussed it tonight. Give the committee guidelines on what we think. And at the same time, we are now preparing a good meeting with you, then a more productive meeting in October, no matter what will happen for the real requests. So even if there are no requests next month, the order of the day will include a report from the committee and a discussion. And I suppose that we should probably indicate measures that could be taken. Yes, make a recommendation at this time because you will probably have a problem with the presence of people present at the meeting. So if you want to do something before November, you risk that people don't see it because they have the league and Thanksgiving that follows them. And then the other thing, I gave John a sheet of Bloomingdale and I think one of Wayne where they organize public meetings. So it won't happen until the real plan has been elaborated. But we just want to make sure that people have the opportunity to comment on what is approved. Because I suppose that in most cities, in particular in this city, there is always someone who... And sometimes... And sometimes the urban planners leave, but they have prepared questionnaires for the public members before and during. That you write it down. What would you see in this... So they can, you know, they can announce that they are available online on the city's website. That the public members can give their opinion and say, we like this, this and that. There are things like that to get the public's opinion before. They don't come to the action session because it's a mess, but it gives an idea of what people want, or at least what interested people want, something like that. Then in the audience, they are obviously invited. All this will be submitted to the committee to determine how they want to address the problem with Christian's advice. And I think we're going to make things move forward and give you the recommendation in November. Then work on it with diligence.

Christian and Michael have already spoken, not about the plan itself, but about things and the time it would take and all that kind of stuff.

Michael is therefore aware of simple facts.

You know, because I know he approached me and said, you know, if he decides to follow this path, we're going to have to put the agent, so we're going to have to find a solution. Okay, does anyone else have any other questions on the part of the director's plan that we just talked about?

Just a question open to the mayor, to the members of the council and to all the members of the council. What are the main topics of concern concerning the modifications of the director's plan, if you have any in mind? Just to expose them during this meeting.

It's a difficult question because it's for that that the lavators If some had been able to get it, some people love the auto wash, others don't. But if it wasn't possible within the director's plan, they wouldn't have been able to build it. That doesn't mean they would have built something else. They might have just moved the auto wash elsewhere and built it elsewhere. But I know that at the time, we could never tell the builders what to build. For example, don't build an auto wash, build a chicken.

We can't do that.

But we can guide them. As I said, the director's plan could guide them, depending on what's in the plan and what's not.

Yes, and there is a clear difference between what appears in the director's plan and what appears in the next zoning ordinance. The zoning ordinance is a kind of law, so to speak, according to which you cannot violate it without a kind of ban. The director's plan is a planning document in which you intend to say that we would like to see this kind of thing here and this kind of thing there. So, a second necessary step would be to make a zoning ordinance. If I change something in the director's plan, the zoning ordinance must change. And the zoning ordinance can also change itself. Yes, and there is like an incentive if you have recommended changes in your director's plan and you implement them with an ordinance, you have a much easier notification arrangement. You don't need to make individual notifications to people and other things. So it's easier to do when we make changes. So a lot of things are going to happen in the next few months.

I wish you good luck. Let's move on to something else. Open this meeting to the public if someone wants to make comments or ask questions. Not seeing any, we will raise the meeting to the public. Does anyone have general comments from the Board of Directors?

Not seeing any, motion for... Oh, wait.

People are already there, there are some people who have already moved. They are waiting for their last CO in the month or the next two, because their finances have to start at a certain time, so they have a last CO for it to happen. I talked to the director of the buildings yesterday. We have the power, through the agreement of reorganization, to suspend their CO or their agreement, because if we don't get a restaurant, They already have a restaurant coming. I'm working on another one. I told them that if you came to see me and you said, we didn't have a restaurant to come, I would create problems with the owners and I would try not to make you come. But there is certainly this restaurant that will come and work on another one. I would like a place for breakfast, lunch, dinner. One of the places that will come is a... sort of crepe cafe. It's on one side, but there is always the other side of the restaurant that will fix it. But for it to be ready, we're going to start renting now. We want to have a meeting on parking. How are we going to manage parking? When everything is settled, everything will be said and done and everyone will pay for parking, they will earn about 19,000 dollars a month, just with the parking spaces that we have sold as part of the development.

Here is the director's plan.

One thing we learned is to spend a lot of time. Easy to come, easy to leave. This meeting is not the fault of the re-manager, it is the fault of the urban council. The next time we conclude a parking agreement, we will have to plan the indexation on the cost of what will be for the parking, because remember that this is a pilot project of 30. So when there is a place at 50 or 100 dollars, it seems good now, but in 20 years it will probably not be great, will it not? We will not have that in place in some of these agreements. It is therefore something on which we will work as we move forward. It is therefore the only building, the CGM is a little slower, but it works inside this building at the moment. I also talked to Sal today.

I would like him to take care of the facade of the building so that it is a little prettier than the outside.

Or she will probably try to make him do it. You will hear about the Smith project soon enough. We are working on a service agreement at the back by the side of the console. This is not a direct route to get there. It's just access by the console to access the rear parking that will have parking spaces or something. Basically, our lawyer works on it. That's why you haven't heard from them yet. The service station of the Soujine project is being sold to another promoter, who is actually the promoter in charge of the Meridia project. He loved the city so much that he was interested in buying his own project.

So it's the one in the blue container.

It's going to move forward, so it's moving forward.

And now it's calm, there aren't many people asking questions about the projects other than at the moment.

Those of us who are always moving forward are in the process of realization. Smith.

What's it called?

On the other side of the street, on Hooper Turnpike 202, all these things have been approved by the Board of Directors. Did you have any idea? And then, our pharmacy is still on Hooper Turnpike.

And the old fighters' building will soon be ready too, right?

The old fighters' building, I had good news with them. I talked to them. I talked to the woman in charge. There are 62 units. 33 of them have already been rented to residents of Copiag Lake. Of these 33, 19 or 20 are old fighters. I copy. Great. So a big deal. It's huge. It was impressed by the number of people in the city who wanted to stay in the city. That's why we built it. It will probably open at the end of August and end of October. They are ready to work. So it's another nice little place because they have a lot of space there. This project provides a lot of additional parking spaces, a lot of greenery and a lot of things happen there. So it's a good shared service project that I think will work well during our second year.

Something to do with the Washington Building, the Cruisers, or the Chinese restaurant that was in front of this new subject.

These buildings that I just mentioned, yes, they were all approved. They don't move.

No, we haven't heard much about it.

And this group is the city.

And I heard that there was a question about the construction project of this medical building with the 735. They had apparently not built the closure they had promised on the upper part of the property that we...

Yes, I talked about it today. If it happens when everything is finished, it doesn't always happen overnight. So I'll keep you posted. So they would have finished everything, they would have installed the closure.

Well, but you see, it's not once again, you know, for those who don't know, once the project is approved and it leaves here, we have nothing more to say. It is then transmitted to the building service. And it is they who monitor what is happening. It is they who certify that it is finished and deliver the occupation certificate. So if members of the Board of Directors have already asked questions, on what happened here. Why didn't they do it? We generally don't know because, as I said, it's the problem of building service and I will always send it back to South Polly and the office there will understand what has been done and what has not been done. Because this project 735 has a history of problems. So you know if it's just a closure. I'm not too worried about it. It doesn't matter. But I still don't know. When will they open, right?

And the other good news that I forgot to mention is that while I was talking to Meridian, I asked if where the old debt building was located, they were owners of this parking lot. Would they be ready to share the first row of parking spaces for city malls from 10h to 15h30 or 16h during the day so that all those who want to do shopping can park there?

They kind of accepted it.

In principle, I have to put it in writing. So you know, when people come home from work at 4pm or 4.30pm, they will have their place available. But during the day, residents can park there to do some shopping. This would help the south of the city to do some shopping there. Because parking spaces are limited to this place. And it's 4 minutes away from the gas station.

If you go, for example, to Randy's Ice Cream, you know, there will be a parking space available right in front of it. It would be crazy. It's crazy. Well, one of the points of the plan director when we come back is that parking has always been a problem in Pompton Lakes and part of the problem was a little more resolved when the pond hole was redone. Once again, for those who don't really know it, the properties on the west side of the side of the river are very complicated. Because they are owners of the properties of Warnock Avenue to the river. So if you want to have a kind of reorganization uniform at the back, as a asker does at a given moment. You must manage access to all the back, which represents about ten properties that lead to it. This makes things very complicated. The board of directors may consider this. I don't know if there is a solution, but just for what it's worth.

Is there anything else among the members of the board of directors?

I think I have another question. The Meridian building. I hear yes. No. People talk about what happens when you block the street for quality control, etc. There is an emergency exit.

So we have already contacted them for the few walks we do. For example, the car show is coming. We contacted the manager. He will contact all the inhabitants of the neighborhood and tell them that this day you will not be able to go out on Wanakwa Avenue at all during the day.

But you have an exit from the back. Because I heard the two parties. People say, oh, they're going to stay stuck there all day. They have to get out in advance.

On the side, on the parking lot. We know there was one, but I just wanted to ask. Go to the lower level. They have to move their car on one side, towards the lower level.

Yes, because if you enter through the park Wanakwa Avenue, there is no exit. You have to get out of Wanakwa. You have to go to the lower level. So we have to agree. Better way. It's all that counts.

Not on the first parking lot. But he would tell his residents to move.

Okay, but they will be warned in advance so that they can take appropriate measures so as not to get stuck there. Not stuck.

What has been raised, just to say it, is that the chief of the police made a good remark by saying that there is no real portals or garage doors at the entrances of Babcock and Wanakyu. It's for someone who doesn't know, who drives in the street, who goes to get a slice of pizza. It's easy, you just have to stop and see the places. This station is there. But these are private places, so I told them that they should really install a kind of electronic portal or something that blocks it so that the children don't hang around there. And that people have to drive in there, because then there must be problems in there, because then there are problems in there. You know, and they will see me install a private portal or something like that.

And the only problem with the barriers is that they block on... Wanakio, have.

Yeah, I was thinking more of a... Enroulable barrier. Something that opens and closes easily. The chief's concern right now is that you know, he's dragging and sees a nice dark basement where to drag. They're going to get in there and start causing problems. But it would be their fault because it's a private property. We like to keep the area.

Anyone else? Mr Mayor, just a question. The bridge looks very nice in Hersheyville. So are they going? What was the plan for the second one behind Max?

We are currently doing it. Okay.

It will probably be done next summer.

The real concern is that if the delay is too long there, there are so many children crossing this bridge to go to school and there is no easy solution. You know how to go around the whole river to go to school. So they have to take care of it. They must either make sure that it works during the summer and that it does not last too long, or they must find a means of transport so that these children can go around the river.

And the other problem they encounter there is that the electricians are hanging on the very low side.

They will therefore have to take care of it by moving this bridge to a single piece to try to put it in place. And they don't hurt any important line. But yes, it's a different project.

We can just float it on the river, the bridge. Okay, update motion.

Motion.

Second, as usual, first. Second. Second, Emoto. Thank you all. No, thank you.