City Council - public_hearing

Let me dance with you on my street

I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL TONIGHT'S R&R BUDGET HEARING MEETING FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8, 2026 TOGETHER TO ORDER. AND FOR EVERYBODY, THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE, OF COURSE, IS THE R&R HEARING AND BUDGET HEARING FOR 2027'S BUDGET. WITH THAT, WE'LL TRANSITION RIGHT AWAY TO OPENING THE HEARING FOR R&R. The revenue neutral rate, which currently the revenue neutral rate is 84.005 mils. The rate before everybody is 87.284 mils, down from last year's, which was 88.163 mils. So with that being open, I'll remind everybody if anybody would like to speak in regarding or to the R&R, you do have, since this is a hearing, five minutes to address the council on anything. I would ask that you if you would like to speak regarding the revenue neutral rate please kind of stand and that way I know who's wanting to do that and when you come up please state your name address and then I will start that timer for you in that so our and our hearing is open do we have anyone who wishes to speak regarding the revenue neutral rate you'd like to Come to the podium, state your name and address for the record. Please.

My name is Ashley Mitchell and I am here. Actually. I don't know if you said your address. Oh, yeah. Um, 206 East 13th here in Pleasanton. I don't really know if I'm against the revenue neutral or for it. All I know is that I am a citizen, and my taxes have tripled in the last four years. And it's time for it to stop. We're not seeing any benefits. I just think that it's just time for it to stop for a while. Give us a break. I know elderly people that can't even be here to speak for themselves. They can't. can't pay their taxes. They're going to lose their homes. Pleasanton is losing what we were built off of, who we know because the taxes are getting so high that people cannot afford to live here. I think that's super important for everybody to remember. I don't just come and talk anytime. I do voice my opinion often, but I don't come and speak often. And I think that people have done something with money in the past to where, whether it's on purpose or not on purpose, we don't know. We just are here and we get the end. It's either the good end or the bad end. And lately we've been getting a pretty bad end. it's not fair to us the people of Pleasanton that truly do care so I'm just asking you guys to not heighten these taxes because we need to live here I thought I was going to live here my entire life but if these taxes keep going up like this I'm going to move and I know for a fact I'm not the only one I mean, we need people in Pleasanton. You guys want us to pay our taxes? You want the taxpayers to pay? You have to have people. You're going to lose people if this keeps happening. And that's all I really wanted to say today. So thank you.

Hi, my name is Robert Woody. I live at 601 East Park Street, and I never really know what to do with my hat, so I'm going to put it right there. I understand that this goes out on YouTube, and whoever cares to listen to it can listen to it. So before I get started, there's something I want to say. Hi, Mom! Like the speaker before me, and I'm coming before you as citizen of Pleasant, your constituent, a taxpayer, someone who has always worked on the philosophy that each one of you who are sitting on this council here because you wanted to be, Mr. Mayor, where you're at because you wanted to be, and I'm sure you had a vision of what you would like to accomplish, But the issue tonight is property tax and because of the limited time I just wanted to come off right off the bat and say I cannot support an increase in the revenue mutual rate. The trend of property taxes here in Linn County has been upward upward upward several thousand dollars that some of us pay to the county. And I say this with some trepidation because, well, I don't really understand the things that you all face when trying to put together a budget and running the city and all the things you have to do with the resources you have to live with, I acknowledge that that is a serious problem for you. But the trend line we see on property taxes in our state and in our county is just going up and up and up. And one of these days, whether it's this year or next year or the year after, you're gonna get to the point where you're just gonna be out of other people's money. People are either not going to be able to, or they just won't do it. We'll become, like what my future probably holds for me, a future property tax refugee. If I can live in a state that is gonna cost me two or three thousand dollars less a year, a retired person, my wife is sick, we're gonna go where it's easier to live. So that is an issue. And you know, it's kind of funny. I do some research for Mind Creek. And I ran across an article in the Pleasant and Observer in 1968 that said, property taxes in Kansas are too high. That was a long time ago. And so we're still talking about the same thing. I am. understand the way that the system works here in Kansas, and I could have it wrong, that while the state established the assessment rate It is up to the county to do the assessment and then it's up to local governments or anyone who is going to receive property tax money to get together, work out a budget and then try to figure out how much they're going to need the next year. Citizens in Linn County, myself, folks in this room, besides being able to stand up in front of you and say something, have absolutely no control what you all do, what you all vote for. Now, again, I could be wrong, but I've been studying this. It is really up to a point now where I believe personally, this is just from my own heart, and this is not anything, but I really believe personally that if we as citizens of our county are going to get any relief from property taxes, we're going to have to look to the state to get them. You all are faced with problems. I'm sure you have a shrinking, at least a stagnant or maybe even a shrinking tax base you have to work with. You need money. It's got to come from somewhere. I understand that. But I just want to let you know from my heart and just to speak for my friends around me and the people that I know every day and go to church with and do this and do that. It's getting to the point where we are not going to be able to sustain that particular system for very much longer. Thank you very much. You all have a great day.

My name is Caroline Fulton and I live at 1205 Walnut Street. And I'm one of those old people that live here that really can't afford for my taxes to go up. I live on Social Security. Our water just went up because the water system went down, and now the taxes are going to go up, and I work part-time just to have to pay my taxes. So I just hope you guys can figure out something that will rework the system and the budget so that maybe you won't have to raise our taxes again this year. Thank you.

Tuesday, Stark, 7.9 maple. I just want to make sure, am I seeing this correctly, that the budget for 26 is like $2.5 million, and you're wanting to spend over $4 million next year? Am I seeing that right? And I just want to echo them. This has got to stop. It's got to stop. I'm looking at probably writing a $5,000 check at tax time this year. Anybody want to pay that for me? This week, we're here. Next week, the school is also holding a hearing, as far as I know. And the county is also. Everybody. It's got to stop. I don't know what else to say. You're just running this racket here trying to pay property taxes. And it's got to stop.

Go ahead. Terry Tucker. I live at 1402 Maple Street, and I just want to say that I do agree with everything that's been said tonight, that we can't keep paying what we're going to pay if it keeps going up and up, because myself, I'm on Social Security, retired, and everything goes up, and we just can't do it. And I have actually spoke to my husband about if it keeps doing that, we're going to have to move, too. We'll just move to a town or a state that's cheaper to live. So if there's anything you can do to not raise taxes, we would appreciate it. Thank you.

Anybody else?

Okay. Yes, but it would take more than five minutes.

Okay. Anybody else want to speak into the revenue neutral rates? Okay. Then I will officially call that hearing closed, turn into normal meeting. Before I open up budget hearing portion I do want to kind of for those that have the budgets in front of them like the notice of hearing that's there one of the things there is like in the third portion where the numbers are where you get to that A little bit higher net expenditures and so forth. I want to point out that the 1% street tax street sales tax expenditure. Is listed in there and that's raising the overall expenditures as well as the consolidated streets has more in it than in prior years. because of the intent of the council to actually use those funds within 2027 those had to be included within the budget portion so that's going to make it seem like oh wow we're wanting to spend double what is normal and that's not collecting double what is normal that's spending the funds that have been gathered so that we can use those for the fixing of the streets and et cetera, because it has to be worked into the budget within that for it to be done correctly. So that's why you might notice some of that is a little bit higher, double higher for totals. And then with that, I will officially call the 2027 budget hearing open. Would anyone like to speak into the 2027 budget?

Well, I just had a question. We're talking about the street budget, but it doesn't seem like any of our streets ever get fixed. I wondered what was going on.

Can you tell me if the GAAP waiver has been, the resolution has been passed for this year?

GAAP?

Yeah, it's the General Accepted Accounting Principle. It's a resolution that needs to be passed. Has it been passed yet for this year? I'm not sure well I'm not I don't I mean it's a violation if we don't not pass it so we need to pass it before we move on the budget so if you know can you go look to see if it's been brought up or anything because we need to pass it so because it's and PSA 75-1120 says it will be a violation if we do not pass it. So we have to pass it.

So when is it normally passed?

January through March, the first part of the year.

So is it something that's quarterly? No, it's yearly.

And also, I noticed that the new GEO bond is not put on the budget in the water rates. It's not listed either.

Is the assumption your TPA should

We have to hire somebody and it's a lot of money if we hire them out and so it's just recommended that our small towns are voting for it.

I'm not seeing anything.

Could someone call for a recess so we can make a motion for a 10 minute recess?

I second.

All in favor? We'll return at 6.31.

Do you have any energy?

They usually do it when they do all the, like, newspapers, and the Facebook, and all that stuff. All at once should do it. That's your book? Oh, I didn't hear you. Right.

to make his own.

I don't know.

I don't know.

That's a 40.6% increase in property taxes.

With the increase in property valuation plus the increase in mill rate, it's a 40% increase in people's taxes.

Yeah, but it saves every month. We get X amount of dollars. I'm not sure. How much money is in that street fund? So for the, from what they're saying, $807,000. $807,000. That's a big chunk of that. That's your credit.

I'd love to give everybody

What it sounds like on here, it has to be done. What's that? Yeah, yeah, next year. Hey, my old friends actually.

I have to make sure.

Okay, thank you.

for everybody?

Yes please. resuming meeting in the middle of the budget hearing at this moment and the question came up about the gaap that waiver is we looked at the several the last several several several that have been done and it is done in december of each year for that year but yours i mean if we don't if we don't have

waiver and so it's and we have to pass it where the budget sits as it is.

Okay the GAAP is passed each year in December for the current year.

Well I mean because the budget's not complete as right now because it does not have the new GO bond on it and it does not have a water raise on it. So the budget is not complete. Because we've already done the water raises.

Okay, so the budget itself is separate from the GAAP, which is an accounting process. And the GAAP is passed every year for that year in December. Now, the budget itself grants. It does not have... Those 2 items that were just added, not even added yet, because the loan hasn't processed fully. The deal bond has not processed fully yet for it. Praise the Lord. This is Matthew Young, Mayor of Pleasanton, and we are in the meeting in the middle of the budget hearing and we have a legal question for you. If you could please give me a call. 417-846-3674. Thank you. Okay, other than the new geo bonds and the water rate increase that is not showing on this budget that will 1 will cancel the other out within that anybody wants to speak in to the budget as far as the hearing portion does. Seeing that there are no speakers in regards to the 2027 budget hearing, I will declare the hearing portion closed. And move towards the resolution for the city council to look at as far as exceeding revenue neutral rates. So, what do you need us to do? Well, we need a motion to adopt resolution 479 to exceed revenue neutral rates.

Do we want to do that before we have clarification?

I can't find any word. That what that this needs to be done immediately the.

The is known is done at the end of each year.

Yeah, it's done annually.

It's typically, it just needs to be done before the, the audit is done. Because the audit will be based on whether it's done in accordance to or if the regulations have been waived city, our size typically waves those because we don't have any assets signature balance. That's done in a form of accounting that way. We typically have the audit that has been done and presented. So, in in respects to, I do understand that in this budget that is before everybody, it does not show the water rate increase and it does not show the new geo bond that we do not have in fullness yet. I'm not sure to what degree that would play on the budget itself since If we did pass this budget now and got the GO bond in October or November, it would still apply to the following year and not be within the scope of the budget itself. Whether that means coming around and having to present a new budget with those alterations that really cover their own expenses or not would be something that we would need clarification on itself. As far as the rest of the budget, I don't know that we have any issue with continuing forward with it.

But we don't know if that's going to make a difference.

It won't change the mill levy because the water rates change changes the internal water rates and does not affect the mills at all. Since none of the mills go towards the water.

So, our revenue neutral was 84.005. Yes, last year the mill levy was 88.163. And this year it's going to be 87.284. so. It's actually come down from last year.

Yes, and therein lies the thing itself, because the mill levy last year was 88 this for this year 88 and we're looking at for 2027. I'm 87, which seems like it goes down. But if you go back five or six years, the levy rate was 90 and people were paying less. Because the problem or the difference is people's valuation is going up.

That's almost a 13% increase.

Yes, and that's been the biggest issue. We talked to the county because the city does not set the value of your property. People that work for the county do the people that work for the county are given. She's hiding the people that work for the county. There are given. a list of what they're supposed to look at, how they're supposed to look at, and how they're supposed to evaluate these things. And apart from knocking on every door and walking into every house, they have to assess from the way it looks and seems, the way the layout of it is from the outside, the approximate square footage of it, what buildings you have, what other structures you have on it. And all those things, they mark off their list and they put all that together. Then they take it back and put all that into the computer. The computer says, estimator value. And it's just skyrocketing. I myself know that from 1985 to 2025, the prices or the valuation of homes has gone up over 300%. Meanwhile, the income that people make has only gone up 53%. That's a terrible thing. And it is statewide. It is countrywide. And it's terrible. And it's one of those cases, we can't blame the people that are doing the evaluations because they are hired for a job to say how big is it what is there etc etc they do that and then it fits out it's it is really on a state level that this is coming all the way down to us is what those evaluations are what we do have control over here as much as possible is the the budget of the city and what we need to operate And that is getting even more difficult because, just like you know, everything is going up in cost. And when it costs more to fix things, more money is needed to fix things, and that becomes just a big, long process. I remember back when they were saying that they wanted to pay McDonald's workers $15 an hour, and they could do that by raising the price of a cheeseburger 15 cents. The problem with raising the price of a cheeseburger 15 cents is everybody before the cheeseburger was 15 cents raised also. And that made our cheeseburger from 67 cents to I think it's $3 now. So just budget wise, I know that is a very difficult thing within itself. And we're trying to do our best to cut. I mean, I know this council set here toiling over a lot of it to cut as much as possible and trim down and continuously saying, we've got to get it lower and we're not done because setting the budget doesn't mean we're going to spend every dime of that either. We want to continue to look at every department and cut all the unnecessary things from those departments as we can. Even if we look at prior years. The police department for 2025 was went under budget, which is good. That's what we want. Each department that comes in at the end of the year under budget. That's what we want, because that was money that wasn't spent. It didn't have to be spent. Giving us positions to be able to change some of that a little bit more. I hope that helps.

what we did sheriff's office takes over the policing for a city but the city pays this so to do it and typically it's a lot less than having your own agency it can be I can tell you that that is one of the things that is currently being looked into to see what the value of that actually would be

So I know that everyone that sits up here in the governing body has been looking into every potential in every way and trying to come up with a better way to do a lot of things to decrease the taxes because none of us want to be taxed more than we have to be.

Right. I agree with that. I think the biggest problem that we all have is that we have the highest taxes in the world. So we're seeing the least taxed. Why everybody's so upset? I mean, my taxes personally went from the day that I moved in $530 to over $2,400 for a two bedroom home. How is that okay?

I feel your pain. I've lived here for 12 years and I own a house up in 706 Main, right on Main Street. And my taxes have gone up just like everybody else's. And believe me, all of us sitting here, we understand. I mean, But the county imposes what they impose on all of us. I mean, our hands are tied, too.

But why are ours the highest? Why is Pleasanton County the highest?

That's something we need to take up with us.

So how it works is like we come to your house and working as appraisers office, we come and we measure your house, we measure everything you have outside and then we take the back. Like he said, we put it in the computer and it does that. And so then it spits out. an evaluation, your assessed value of whatever your house is. So you have a hundred thousand dollars just saying, you know what I mean? Like anybody, you have a hundred thousand dollar house. And then you times that by the mill levy, which the mill levy isn't just based on what they're doing up here. It also comes from the school. It also comes from part of the county. And so it's like, the part of that is, is like, I mean, if you're not asking all the questions to my office, Like it was just overall to everybody. Like if you're not coming in, like, why is my property assessed at this value? And I didn't, yeah, no, I know, you know, like if you're not coming and doing that, like, you know, but that's like the next step of health there. Like, unfortunately, like middle level, you can't go down much lower where we won't have a town, but like the assessed values, there's like a thing that the county does and they, my office does. Lisa will look over the whole thing and what's going on with the water right now. Does she need to reassess the value of Pleasanton? The whole town in a big hole to see if the values need to come down here. So it's definitely something that everybody needs to start asking. Why are our assessed values so high? When we don't have anything to show for it. Yes, but it also comes with our school. Yes, agreed. You know, so it's unfortunately all that.

That's why I said I'm going to give you two more here. No, I agree. No, I agree. Everybody was wanting to raise it above revenue. That was put in place to help property taxes not go up. Yes, but assessment value.

Yes, and it's also...

taxes was split up between the three for all the counties? Just Lacey? No, that's not true. Oh, that's not true? That's not true. No. I thought it was supposed to be under each city of the county.

That's not true. Basically, what gets from the power plant is the Prairie View School District and then the whole county. Lacey does not get any money from the power plant.

uh they're not even their hospital board that is it all comes uh but it's all you know it's lacing power plant does not give any money to lacing or lynn valley just to the county just to the county thank you right with that so we got that what about the caseys here in town and the four dealership is that do they pay lynn county or pleasonton are they in pleasonton yes I mean, is that revenue that can be generated to us by annexing those properties? I'm just asking.

I think they're already in the city. They're in the city?

Yeah, they're already inside. Okay. And I was going to actually mention that too. One of the things that some of the other cities around us, they have more businesses, which means they generate more tax revenue from sales tax. Without that, then we're left needing more mill levies to equal the same tax rate or amount. So that makes us ask for more mill levies because we don't have as many businesses generating that sales tax. I would like to see more businesses. The problem is, is a lot of the businesses that would like to come in, they go, oh, wow, look at the mill levy tax. It's too high. Well, yes, but if you would come in, we could lower it because you would generate sales. So it's kind of a vicious cross-fixing.

If you all adopt this resolution, does that mean what we actually pay out of our pocket is going to be more?

What do you mean?

Are we actually going to be paying more money in taxes? If you all adopt to the city of Pleasant, if you all adopt this resolution.

Okay, so right now revenue neutral rates is set at 84.05. We're looking at 87.284, which is really a 3. $3 per the thousand, $3.28, more per the thousand valuation of your home.

So is that a yes?

That would be more than the revenue neutral rate, yes, by $3 per the thousand.

Combined with the valuation increases, it would be about almost 13%.

More than last year, it would be $3.27 more. per thousand valuation? Yes. Three dollars.

But your valuations have taken about a 7% increase.

Your what?

Your valuations have taken an increase.

Property valuations have gone up. And by the time you take that with the numbers you're talking about, it's almost a 13% increase.

It really wouldn't be. So revenue neutral rate, the 84.005 is equal to last year's valuation at 88 mils. So where last year the city got 88 mils, 88.163, the equal amount of taxes for city taxes that you would pay would have paid at 88.163. The equal amount to that for this coming year would be 84.005 mil levy rate.

Right?

And cumulatively, when you take the mill up, it's almost a 13% increase, net. It wouldn't be.

I'm doing my math wrong. The way the revenue neutral rate works is the total valuation for the city went up. That includes everybody's house.

9%.

So to pay the exact same amount revenue, so revenue neutral rate for the total valuation for the city was right here. So this is the revenue neutral rate. This is how much money we got last year. If we keep it at that exact, at the revenue neutral rate, we will get the exact same amount of money. Not everybody will get the same tax bill because even though the city went up a certain percent, each individual house changed in that percentage increase also. And that's where you're saying that you have that difference there because your valuation went up different than somebody else's valuation. But overall, to go above revenue neutral, but really from the amount that was taken in last year at revenue neutral rates, we're talking about a $31,000 increase to the city budget for next year, from this year. That $31,000 is all the budgets going up. That's almost frightening because if you consider the cost of living increase, any type of pay increase or anything else, $31,000 is not really enough to cover it. But the council has been working really hard to try to get that down to as low as possible for that. But I do understand, it is your increased property, then the mill levy, increase $3 and something more per mil on that valuation, which is an interesting math equation in itself because the total value of your property times 11% of that is how many mils, divide that by 1,000 and then you take that number and you multiply it by the mils and that's what you pay tax-wise. So is that?

Yes. So everybody's assessed values are different. Nobody's assessed values are the same. Even if you have 100,000 square foot house, and you have 100,000 square foot house, and you have $1,500, 15,000 square foot house, both of those could be lower if your house is not up to par to what theirs are. And it just, unfortunately, has nothing to do with you guys. It has all to do with the county.

Yeah. And if you look at the assessed valuation, proposed or actual, it's changing by a lot. And 2026 is from 9.26, 9,260,000 to 9,725,000. On total, that's what you see as pleasant. Well, I guess the mayor would have to speak into the sales tax kind of why that's different.

There's a lot of calculations that go into this in so many different fashions on everything.

The city of Pleasanton does have the consolidated streets on top of that.

A lot of the other cities will only have the one which our general mill levy is $62.991 and then the consolidated streets tax is the $24.293. Which I'm still looking to try to find exactly when that was introduced in further looking at some of what I had understood.

I found that I'll get you a copy of that.

Okay, so no other city has that.

Yeah, because my original understanding of that being introduced in 95 wasn't the case. 95 introduced the 1st sales tax. 1%, so consolidated streets would have been sometime. back there, which is probably squaring off some time and coming and going through all of the ordinances and everything for that. I know for me, looking at that, it's kind of like, okay, this has been on here for how many years now? There's no reason our roads should have been allowed to get to what they are. And unfortunately, we can't change how we got here, but we can change from here moving forward, which is why we are working a plan of action and discovering, I mean, this council has already released some funds to start working on getting the streets fixed. and so forth, and I'm really looking forward to seeing that unfold instead of it's coming, it's coming, it's coming. The KDOT grant for one has been it's coming, it's coming, it's coming, but there's a lot involved in that KDOT grant and everything. And we're taking bids right now for that, so if anybody's watching or anything, please get on, get the bid specs, put in a bid for the KDOT grant that'll do ash and cedar. I feel that that is kind of budget related because that's money going out for that. I'm not sure when it exactly is going to start offhand, but the bids are open through end of October. So right now they're looking at. finalizing the bids, then we'll process, the council will vote on which bid to go with, and they're looking at a spring start for that, from my understanding.

But the other ones that we put...

So, the other ones, the overlay thing, and some of this extra money that's been released from the council already to start going out for that, the overlay people, they're wanting to start in October.

Yeah.

So, as long as everything goes through with that... They want to start two weeks. Yeah. They'd like to start as soon as possible with that.

They want to get it down for Gisela.

Yes.

I talked to him today.

The last time I talked to him, he was going, I want to start by at least October. What do we need to do to make this happen? Let's do that. I'm hoping that as we see those things unfold, people will get excited and go, okay, yes, I'm seeing results here with that. But budgets are difficult. I mean, everybody here knows that. You have your own budget that you're trying to juggle.

So will they overlay? Do they come through and actually tear it up and then put overlay on top?

They'll mill it out, and then they'll mill it down to a certain level, and then they'll put a layer on top.

If you're talking about businesses, I don't know if it's something I need to come back next week and ask you about, but can you do something for taxes? Like, hey, we can... We need to give a tax break. I was like, can we do a tax break to start advertising businesses? Because I know that's a huge part of it. We don't have...

We, there is a tax incentive program for new businesses coming into town and there's a complete list of how that's broken out and everything in its own special book in the clerk's office that if anybody is wanting to know how that exactly works, we'd be happy to. Get it out and sit down with them and kind of show them what that tax incentive is. Now we do remind people that is the city of Pleasanton tax incentive. It's not county and everything else, but I do understand that a new business to Lynn County may be able to have the same opportunity for tax incentives with the county. They just have to file that with the county and talk to them on it. So that doesn't increase the city budget right off the bat, but if it establishes a good business and they stay, then it does eventually produce that revenue that is needed for the city. Okay, anything else from council-wise on any of that? Do we have a motion to adopt the resolution 479 to exceed revenue mutual rates?

I'd like to make a motion to adopt resolution number 479.

Motion is made to adopt resolution number 479 to exceed the revenue neutral rate for 2027. Is there a second?

I second.

It's been moved and seconded. Okay, for all those in favor, we'll do roll call vote. Peace.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yes.

Resolution passes. Moving on to the budget for 2027. Everything here is in accordance to our last budget work session. Everything is before you all. Is there a motion to accept the 2027 budget?

To include the geo and the water rates?

We can come back later and amend that for the budget in itself. I'm not sure how that would work, trying to do that at this moment. But we can pass this budget, and if need be, come back and amend the budget to that. As far as the mill levy itself portion of this budget, it wouldn't adjust that or change it at all.

Do we have to notify the county and stuff that we're going to amend the budget?

The problem with amending the budget itself is we do not have. Another geo bond that can go in this budget right now in front of us, because the geo bond has not been issued.

But when it is issued, that's what I'm asking.

After it's issued, we would be able to amend the budget. And that would be a whole process again. We would have to notify the people of the amended budget, have another hearing regarding it, and do all of those steps to it. Um, as far as getting this to where it needs to be to the county and everything else we only have until the 20th of this month. Since the geo bond wouldn't be even issued to us until after the 15th of this month, we would not have enough time to be able to present this and get it all to the state to the county and to the state before the 20th. So we would have to come back after that.

I thought it was October 1st.

It is the, the hearings and everything have to be done between August 20th and September 20th.

And then when we, when we, yeah. And when we admit the court to put on the job, I'll put on the law, right?

Yeah, we could do all that at the same time. Because those items wouldn't affect the mill levy portion of the budget. It would just affect the water portion of the budget and what our total indebtedness is.

I'm not sure if I feel comfortable with passing something when we don't have all the numbers in there.

And this number right here, the proposed bill changes from 4,000 to a higher number, right? Yes, expenditures would raise because the income will raise. And what's the new G01? How much is that? G01?

$345,000. And the way the water rate increase was calculated, it was calculated to completely cover the geo bond and cover a deficit in the water department as was expected based on expenditures thus far this year.

So, after we get those numbers and they can be added in here, then we can go back and amend. This budget.

Yes, which we talked to legal counsel and do that. So we contacted the. the loan people to ask them how that works because we don't have the geo bond yet so therefore we cannot include it in this budget once it is then that would be an amending of the budget that would be needed to cover it at that point but as far as being able to do that before our deadline we would not be able to but as far as coming back and amending it we could do that because city budgets aren't impossible to amend there are regulations and processes to do that with which is what we would have to do in this case, just on where we are with getting that geo-bond and how it falls timeline-wise.

And we won't make a violation?

No.

Or a legal?

It's supposed to process sometime at the end of this month in September. Yes. But once it processes, and we're able to put the numbers in and activate the water increase, which would be go on for October. Um. Where we'd be past the deadline to be able to redo the budget, which is why we do need to go ahead and pass this budget and seek for an amendment. Once we have all of that extra numbers, geo bonds wise and so forth.

I make a motion to go ahead and adopt the budget. I second.

We moved and seconded to adopt the 2027 budgets if we could by roll call, please.

Yeah.

Yeah. Alex. Yep.

Sandy yes.

Yeah.

It is adopted. And then, as soon as we get all that other information, I will get all that together and to you all and at the same time, get the procedure that we would need to go through to do that, which needs done. this. And that finalizes all things for tonight. I would entertain a motion for adjournment.