City Council - Regular Meeting

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I want to talk about shelter. I'm not sure. Okay, I'll go ahead and officially call to order tonight's meeting, Monday the 18th. We'll start with the pledge. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Ask Pastor Dave to say a prayer. Dear heavenly father, we just pray that you would send your presence to us tonight as the city gets ready to meet to deliberate the needs of the city and to take care of appointments and whatever other business that is before us this evening. Lord, we pray Lord that your presence would be here, that you would guide us, give us wisdom in the decisions that are made and Lord that you would ultimately bless this city in Jesus name. Amen. Amen.

Um I would like to put forth an amendment, a couple of amendments to the agenda. Um one under unfinished business to include the culverts at 12th and Laurel. And under new business, the um bank signes to update the names on that. And if I can get a motion to accept the amended agenda. I make a motion to accept the amended agenda. I second.

It's been moved and seconded for the amendments to the agenda. Any discussion? All in favor? So amended. Um consent agenda. If I could get a motion to approve the consent agenda. I'd like to make a motion to pass the uh consent agenda uh with um amendment to it. Um, as far as the uh votes for officer uh Kevin Goodung, um that's uh it states that the minutes uh recorded that it was passed unanimously. Um it was not passed unanimously. It was uh 3 to2 vote with uh uh Michelle and uh Sandy as uh voting no. Candy, is that what you have?

On my records, I also show that Kevin Goodram was a 32 pass. I have a pass unanimously in the minutes. I watched some video again today and yes.

So we need to adjust those. So the motion for that has been seconded is to approve the consent agenda with the adjustment to the minutes to properly properly reflect the 32 vote on officer Kevin Goodram. Any other discussion? All in favor? So moved. There are quite a few public comments both um public comments from the floor and speakers on the agenda for tonight. So, I imagine that a lot of these are regarding some of the same stuff. So, I'm going to ask um Connor um Heeki if you would come forward please first to address the council. All right. I have some papers for you guys as well. Is that okay? Thank you.

And if you wouldn't mind searching your name and address for the record.

Okay. My name is Connor Hecky and I live at 21181 East 975th Place in Pleasanton and uh I am here today to talk about a uh new subdivision for in town. I am a business owner of Mine Creek Feed just here outside of town of Mine Creek Feed since 2019. Um as well as my family has owned Hecky Construction. We've been building houses for 50 years now. Uh, we are looking at putting in new 5 acres um to put in bring in new housing development into town and I was wanting to see about getting it indexed to see um what would be available from the city in terms of uh for like bringing water, bringing sewer um to the subdivision to begin the process. Um, we have already talked with EverGy and Atmas on bringing gas and they say they're on board and have the ability to do that. Um, so I'm just looking to bring it to everybody's attention and kind of see what the next steps would be to to get the process started to see what's available for uh moving forward. Council have any questions? There are uh grants available as well with the state of Kansas to um help improve the infrastructure for sewage treatment and water treatment as well. We just need uh the assistance with the city to be able to apply or to be able to fill out the applications and the city would have to submit those uh to be able to move proc further on those that process.

There's also uh grants available as well from the state that will help with uh closing cost uh for new buyers of buying these houses to help um bring new community into the the city as well. And um this is also a great opportunity for the city to have new houses built and bring new people into town with more income as well for for city for improvement of streets and everything as well.

Yeah. Is this something you're looking to do pretty fairly quickly and starting? I'd like to get started um I guess as soon as possible just to get things rolling and we're want to start out small and just we don't want to dive in too big and

get overheads too fast. We've been doing this um for over 50 years of building houses and we're up from around the Spring Hill, Johnson County, M County area. So, we're uh very familiar with all the codes needed for for building and everything and um have built anywhere from single family homes with ranch style homes to duplexes, threelexes. So, we've been doing this for many years and my dad's been doing this as well for many years with the knowledge behind it to be able to build houses of very good quality. Okay. And with the placements of the streets and stuff, I imagine that's just kind of phase one, see how it goes and possibly expand from there.

Yep. And that's just a rough draft of what they could look like. Anything can be changed because it's open land. Um, this is on 17th Street. I don't know if I clearly stated that or not. just right over here um on the map here. This area right here next to the cemetery. Okay. Um it's probably the fan, the sound of the fan that's making it difficult. Do you have any questions at the moment? Okay. Right. Thank you, sir. and I will be getting with y'all to redo the meeting that we didn't get a chance to on Friday.

Yeah, no problem. We just want to kind of I guess talk and see about what to do about going forward with the grants and stuff because I think that'd be a good opportunity to save the city on cost for getting sewer and and water to the to the location as well. Or are you going to be developing the whole place by yourself?

Um what cost you going to be to the state? The initial would be probably just trying to get the sewer and water to the location. Um, we did meet with uh uh Jimmy and John from the utilities and they met us out on the site and they kind of showed us where the closest lines would be and they said it'd be relatively easy to get to it with a couple different options as well. Um, so it just be kind of going over further of that to see what's available and kind of looking at what kind of getting some hard numbers put together rather than just looking at it to see what it would cost to to get that started and um see what else is available as well.

Okay. Thank you.

Thank you. James A. Evening, council. Sheriff James AS here. Uh, wanted to address you. uh kind of bridge the gap in communication with you guys, maybe answer some questions if you do or don't have questions uh regarding. So the I talked to Chief Snder and he was he informed me that they really wasn't sure what his schedule was, but they didn't want him to have any overtime. Well, I need to tell you that that is impossible. as the chief of police not to have any overtime. And when you have any major emergency calls that come into Pleasanton, the deputies have been told to respond to those calls. It's up to Pleasanton to disregard us on those calls as they come in. If in your absence or in your police's absence, um, we initially take the call and the call will be forwarded to them when they're available. So, we don't take over your calls. So, any emergent call, it it still gets relayed. Um, we have some statistical numbers which even surprised me uh for the last month. And when we break it down as far as like

community patrol, community check, uh, we break it down by cities. Uh, Pleasanton ranked number one in community patrol with 104 times that the deputies have been in this town doing community patrol. Uh, the next one after that was Parker. I'm sorry, Pleasanton was number two. Parker was at 114. So Parker was 114. Pleasanton was at 104. So Pleasanton was number two on our list as far as community patrols. Um, they ranked down there with Mount City, Prescott, Centerville, Blue Mound, and you know, then the lake communities. So, we are in town um and and we are whether we're seen or not depends on what time we're in town. So, Chief Snder come over last week and we talked about budget and we kind of went over, you know, what our budget consists of and what would help him further on his budget as far as a breakdown of different line items and things like that. He was very receptive to it and I I believe it'll be a lot easier for everybody to understand once once he gets that all broke down. Um, we also talked about uh statistical numbers so you guys know what he's doing and all that kind of stuff. So, the biggest thing that I'm asking uh from you is is is your is your is your police department is it still a 24-hour police department or do we have are we because at some point I need to know, you know, are we taking the calls or are we calling out Chief Snder? Cuz I mean I I

need to know from from your guys stance where you guys stand. Oh, yeah. I I think we should call on Tristan. I mean, like I'm talking major emergency calls. I'm not talking about, you know, dogs barking, things like that. We're still going to take the calls. Yeah. For emergencies, I mean, I think they need to be called out like for like the chief here. Okay. Yes. for Tristan.

When he's not available, it would go to us or the next person that's on call if the next person's on call at a lengthy distance and we will or it's going to be a time delay. We're still going to take the call. We're going to secure things until they get there. But yeah,

I I just I'm just kind of want to know where you guys are at. Are we? Cuz I mean, if if if there's if you're going to have zero overtime base and you're going to have zero overtime budget, that really puts a damper on things cuz you can't there's there's no possible way to have zero overtime. So, I mean, overtime can be monitored, overtime can be regulated, you know, your your different calls, your different calls that come out, what's priority, what's not priority. Th those all can be those all can be set aside. But you know and and that's that's that comes down to your chief. But when we're talking emergency calls, I need to know are we going to count on somebody or are we going to handle it all ourselves? We will let you know as soon as uh we're able to get that figured out. Exactly.

Okay. So, at this time being, what do what do you expect out of us? What has been the normal thing thus far?

I as I explained, we respond to every eent call. As we respond, we don't take the call. we will secure it or if nobody's available, we will take the call and pass it on. That's how that's how we've been handling it. So my problem is or my scenario is if I've got a disturbance and Blue Mountain, Centerville, Parker, Lacine area and you get an e call in Lacine. I've got to figure out am I calling somebody out? What are we doing? who's available and and that that's that's where that's where I'm I'm trying to bridge the gap here because if I don't have anybody available cuz we have two deputies on duty during the day, two deputies on duty during the night. If I don't have anybody available, what are we going to do in a timely response for your citizens?

Which I I mean I I think we need to leave it how it is. Calling out. Yeah. like calling out Tristan. I mean because there is that instant that's going to happen that it's going to happen share deputies that are over in Blue Mountain. They're not going to be here in time.

You're right. So my other my other thing is is when Tristan's notified whenever there's a call in his city. Okay? Whenever it doesn't matter what it is. Tristan's notified when there's a call in his city. And what he does with that call is up to him. We just notify that there's something going on. So if it's emergent or non-emergent, we're we're notifying him this is going on in your city. We do it for everybody. We do it for Lacine, Lin Valley, everybody. And that's what that's that's the common thing that we have done for all cities. So it's up to the police chiefs in these cities to make the call. Do I send somebody? Do I not send somebody? Can I handle it in the morning? Can I handle it over the phone? So that's that's where we leave it. but they are going to get notified that this is going on. Um, but in the event of a a major emergency, I need to know. So, if you're good with call out, we're going to leave it as it is. You know, major emergency, um, we're going to leave it as a call out and we'll go down the line. Chief Sch Snider will give us a list of who's on call and we'll just go down the list if he's not available and tell you guys give me some sort of directive and and we'll follow that. Okay.

Thank you. You see? Do you see?

Okay. All right, we'll shift over to those um public comments papers. Five minutes. Charles Leonard. If you could approach and state your name for the record and address.

Charles Leonard, 81 Center Street here in town, Pleasanton. Okay. I'm here because a friend of mine I went to school with was in charge to put in quiet zones in towns. It's not as complicated as it seems. I brought all you fellas and ladies a copy of the rules for it. If you would take it, can I hand them out? And we'll have to Mr. Mayor, I'll have to keep yours for reference. You can have it when I'm done if that's okay. These guys probably won't mind copying most of them.

All right. Well, It says back here the requirements uh crossing in the proposed zone must have active warning devices, flashing lights, gates, console war and physical barriers. Communities must generally install non-traversible medians, channelizations devices or four quadrant gates to prevent drivers from circumventing crossing arms. That's been our problem. The quiet zone must do a half mile, which my proposal will do that. Our problem has been paying for the railroad will make us pay for the double crossing arms and that's expensive. Uh I propose I got this little map here and I'm really not an artist, but from Holly Street, which I guess you know everybody knows what Holly Street is, I hope. Uh 10th Street, I would like to make 10th and 9inth both one way. 10th coming into town and ninth going out. It would m it would uh relax some of the main maintenance on those. People coming in from out in Missouri could come in on 10th Street, go to the store. If they need to go somewhere else, Dollar General, they go on down Main Street. They want to go back out, they go right out Ninth Street, make it easy. Uh all would have to be done on those crossings would be barricade one lane and it could be done right at the RLC gates and for their trucking purposes I propose uh center street which is right behind RLC. They have gates back there and they say that you know and we have made it and I've complained about big trucks on my road. I live on Sar Street. Uh they've complained about people about not being able to get a truck in there

because there's no truck zone. I propose to lift that no truck zone for that one block so they can come in on 10th unloaded back RLC and go back out ninth and keep the traffic off Main Street. Uh the other thing I have I guess is uh the little crossing on the far north of past 1100 road. The people live there would not be avert to us closing that. I've talked to two of the three and they would not be avert to us closing that crossing. If that was the case, according to this paper here and the law, the federal law, which we can't stop them barking here because we lost a lawsuit, state of Kansas did 2018. Uh the only trains we would hear will be when they're approaching 1100 road and when they're approaching Park Road. The people in this town would probably kiss every one of you guys if you could pull it off. And uh I think this is feasible. If you want my really terrible map, I will let you have it and you can try and make the best of it because I'm not the best at maps. But it's pretty simple and and the uh the concept is simple and it's low cost. I think for the barricades, we could probably go out and whine them out of the people, the the cement people out here and block half the road off four little ways and pass the rules. The only thing it has to be a half mile long and is over half mile from Park Street to 1100 road. So that would just make the train honk when it came into town. When it got to 1100 to 1100 both ways, you know, coming in at park, it honk at uh 1100 road and at Park Road

and the other way vice versa. It would reduce the noise in this town by probably 80%. That's all I got. If I made it past five minutes, I'm sorry. Uh, I plan on if everybody just looks at me like I'm dumb, uh, circulating petitions to see what the people in town really think. But here's a copy of the map if you would like it. And I will let everybody else have their time. Thank you, sir. Thank you for your patience. Thank you,

Michael Forge. Michael I'm sorry. Michelle, I am so sorry. I'll go hide under a rock for a moment.

I'm sorry. I'm bound to butcher your name five or 6 hundred times. All right. All right. If you wouldn't mind stating your name and address. My name is Michael, I mean Michelle Leforge,

907 calm. All right. First of all, I uh would want to thank the first uh responders of the volunteer fire department. I had to call 911. I was in a dire situation. Uh Renee Marshall appeared first, came in, held my hand and uh helped me extremely just having her there kept me calm and uh helped me wait for so I could get up to the hospital. And I'm also here because I'm concerned with the condition of Steggy Lake. First of all, it's been moan mowed once this season. However, only one side of the path was mowed. The path is overgrown, filled with musthistle, and other weeds, some 4 feet high. The mess thistle has taken over the path to where it's unsafe to walk, especially if you're walking with a child or your dog. East Lake is awful also overgrown. I believe as citizens of this city, we deserve better conditions so our families can enjoy the outdoors. Also, I'm concerned because someone is feeding the wildlife at Steggy Lake and I watched as the wildlife was eating the feed corn and they're having a hard time uh hard time getting it down their gullet. It's not uh I don't think it's uh we're supposed to be feeding the wildlife out there. Um anyways, uh thank you for your time. Um, I did call last winter. I was talking to the noxious weed fellow. Can't remember his name. And uh, he told me that the thistle was not mus thistle, but uh, he is wrong because if you want to go look out there, I've got pictures on my phone. Uh,

it's got a pink flower to it. And if those flowers, if those flowers burst open, that's going to be 100 more plants all over the path. So, I would really appreciate if we could get that taken care of because I love walking my dog out there. I love the exercise I can get. Uh, so anyways, thank you.

Thank you. Greg and I won't I don't want to butcher your last name. All right. Party's done with today. Thank you.

If you wouldn't mind stating your name and address for the record and you have five minutes, sir.

Five minutes. All right. My name is Greg Stalill, 601 East 6th Street here in Pleasanton. Okay. First of all, let me give you some props. I want to comp commend the first responders and the city fire department. And I've had some uh instances when we've had to have them there and uh you know they were there promptly and definitely the uh you know the fire the volunteer fire department guys were there before way before any ambulance shows up you know and uh Renee Marshall was happened to be there and it really helped calm things down because they had you know it just it just really helped me having a female there too. Okay. uh to help uh calm things down. But uh that's not really what I'm here for, so I better get my four minutes and and get get to that. Um I uh I'm just concerned how this, you know, the city council uh last week blindsided both the at city attorney and uh the chief of police. you know, he's been here for 12 or more years, over a dozen years, and uh I've went to school with his father and his mother, and they're good people. I'm sure, and I think Tristan is too, you know. Uh I don't really know Tristan very well. I, you know, as I've moved away, came back, you know, and and so forth, you know, since since high school, you know, few times. And uh you know I don't always agree with him you know when whenever I've interacted with him but I do respect him because he never you know went you know what I would feel you know uh doing something wrong. So you know dealing with me he was always even pretty evenhanded you know like I said even when I didn't like

his decision I I respected it. Okay. Uh, and so, u, having a local police, a chief, you know, is is really a good thing, at least in my opinion, you know, especially somebody that's been here probably longer than maybe some of you, I'm not sure, you know, uh, but, you know, he was born, you know, grew up here, you know, and u, and like I say, knowing his his father and going to school with him just passed away recently, you know, not a good deal. Uh but uh um they're really good people, you know. I But so if someone, you know, uh is getting a citation or or not getting one for some reason or another and they got to complain about that, you know, well, you know, when you're a police officer, there needs to be I support the blue if you have they're the police officer. There's gray areas and everything and they there's it's subjective to what they do. They don't just have to, you know, uh, just write everybody a ticket, you know, in fraction, you know, when maybe, you know, unless they're just doing it constantly and and playing, you know, favorites, you know, I don't I'm not privy to your personnel matters, you know, cuz you guys do that back behind your closed doors. Okay. But I can assume, you know, that if uh unless this is an extremely grievous situation that someone on the city, you know, uh on this new city council basically, you know, has uh uh you know, uh voted, you know, not to improve, uh to approve their uh employment, you know, I think that uh I don't think it's good, you know. Uh, I'm I sure hope that's not the case, you know, but things seem a little bit uh something seems pretty fishy, you know. I'm not sure about this case, but I'm you know, I believe that you should reflect upon your own lives and nobody's

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all all the time, you know, and he's got years of experience, you know, and in this town, you know, those people. And I don't think that should be wasted, you know. uh you really need to think about it, you know. So, uh uh I I think that, you know, maybe you should reflect upon that before you make any final decisions and not get up here and somebody vote to, you know, to go ahead and approve him, you know, uh approve his contract and continue it. I don't think that's just my opinion and I could be wrong cuz like I say I'm not privy to to anything that happens behind those closed doors with personnel matters, you know, but uh yeah, I just uh uh and I haven't talked with Tristan or his family or anybody, you know, and uh in a long time except for I saw Tristan at the uh crossing from the grocery store and said, "Hey, Tristan, thank you very much for what you're doing." is over the past five or six years, my I live on Sixth Street coming in from Case from the highway. My ditches and uh along the on the road are clean of bottle of beer bottles and uh you know and these little cinnamon whiskey bottles and cigarette. There's not a lot of trash anymore. So, they got to be doing something right.

Thank you, sir. Thank you so much for that. Thank you, sir. Aaron Portman.

Aaron Borman, 208 East 14th Street. So, I sat at my son's baseball practice the other night watching the last city council meeting on my phone. And honestly, the longer I watched, the more frustrated I got. The man who's given over a decade of his life, a police chief who has spent years serving this community, was reappointed and then denied without a real public explanation. the mayor reappointed him. Now, the mayor and I do not agree on much, and um I'm sure most of you know that, but he got it right on this time. What bothered me most is how it was handled. There was no warning to the chief, no explanation, nothing. Instead, this council spent nearly an hour and a half in 11 separate executive sessions. 11. That's a lot of time behind closed doors for decisions that are this that are this important. And at some point 11 executive sessions starts to feel a lot lot less like confidentiality and a lot more like nobody wanting to explain their decisions publicly because all I'm sorry because through all of that the biggest issue the police chief was never really discussed in front of the people who live here. And this isn't just another city position. This is the person who was responsible for public safety in the town. After all the executive sessions, there was still no explanation. Not to him, not to the people sitting here tonight. If there's a legitimate reason for denying disappointment, then just say it. If there were performance concerns, stand behind them publicly. But don't make decisions behind closed doors and then expect people not to ask questions. And it didn't stop with the police chief. The council also refused to consent to the city administrator. Now she's resigned. And whether people like want to admit it or not, that changes things because when positions like the city administrator disappear, that responsibility doesn't disappear with them. That is a authority shifts directly to the mayor. That means fewer checks on day-to-day operations, fewer people between one office and the decisions being made for

the city, more influence over hiring, more control over employees, more control over what information gets passed along to the council and the public, more control concentrated in one office. Under different circumstances, maybe a city could function without a city administrator. With the lack of transparency we've already seen and with more and more decisions happening behind closed doors, I don't think concentrating more authority into one office is what this city really needs. Especially when we've already seen concerns involving the mayor and the hiring of his own daughter. I'm sorry. Did you hire her or not? The decision was left with Becky.

Were you in on the conversations? I'm an on conversation.

So, yes. nepotism. And when more and more authority gets centralized, people are naturally going to start asking questions. The same thing applies to the city attorney. If the goal was to remove a partisan attorney, I agree with that. But reducing legal oversight while major decisions are already being handled this way is a mistake because confusions around motions combined with closed door decisions making making exactly how cities end up with decisions they can't defend later and the taxpayers are the ones that usually pay for it. These are important decisions that affect this town and the people living in it. People deserve to hear those conversations. And if there are bigger plans involving the police department, then just say it. Don't work around it behind closed doors. If you're proud of the decisions you made, explain them. If you're not, then maybe you shouldn't have made them in the first place. So, one last question, Mr. Mayor. At the last council meeting I spoke at, I was told before the meeting that I need to provide specific information about what I wanted to talk about. I was told by the city attorney that if I didn't, I may not be able to speak. I want to know if any of that information was shared with anyone else prior to the meeting because I find it very suspicious that someone came prepared with rebuttals to the three topics I provided but had nothing prepared for the topics I left out. Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay. Mr. Mayor, can I speak to that? No. On the agenda, Teresa Miller.

Good evening. I want to start totally opposite

than you did. And so that's why I'm doing this. And I hope none of you take offense to it. I'm sorry if you do. I'm going to read something that to me is one of the most important things in every single one of our lives as well as our children's lives and especially a city like ours. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to doctrine, which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but doing doting about questions and stripes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmising, perverse disputing, It is of corrupt men and women's minds and destitute of the truth. Supposing that gain is godliness from such withdraw thyself. And to make it simple and short, just in case any of you in front of me or behind me have never heard of the golden rule, let me repeat it to where everybody can hear it. Do unto others as you would have them do to you and you and you and you. Now, no one likes to be talked to rudely. No one likes to be belittled and told they are stupid and that they cannot do a job. And I, it is not just me. We have so many petitions signed,

hundreds of them. And I come to you tonight. I would like to speak to the council members without interruption. I won't take long. and the mayor and the people here to share with you that there is so much sadness, disgust, being ashamed of our city because there's not truth, there's not reasoning, and there's not respect for another human being. Sometimes I have heard you answer people so rudely. I would never answer you that way. And I expect the same thing from all of my representatives. Each one of you was voted in that chair. And so far, I haven't seen a whole lot of good things come out of those chairs. I see rudeness. I see lies. And I see personal objectives. And it's got to stop. We need to work together. And you do that by respecting other people and listening to what they want. You all three, I'm assuming since the vote was 3 to2, somehow came up with this. I don't understand it, but you came up with this idea of firing our police chief, our city administrator, and our attorney. Now, it is my understanding that we have more than one lawsuit against Pleasanton right now. Was it a good idea to fire our attorney until we had another attorney? I don't think so. Now, we're going to talk about Becky. I don't need to share with anybody else

in this room that Becky was fair, honest, and she worked a lot when she didn't have to. Now, she gave you her resignation so that she could retire, and she made it effective August 3rd, I believe. Instead, three council members decided they needed to get rid of her immediately, or however you want to put it. The reason she was staying those extra days was to train Candy so that Candy could step in and feel like she knew what she was doing and help our city with all of the issues that we have right now. This is the worst possible time that this could have been done. Now then, Tristan, that one I will never understand. This is a very small town. However, we are the most populated and the largest city in Lynn County, as most of you know. What are we going to do with no policemen? We're on this highway which is well known for drug and human trafficking. Yet we have no law enforcement officers that feel comfortable working for you. And that is a bad thing. It's never a good thing. So those are the three situations that everybody here is upset about. And I, as you can hear, I'm not the only one. Plus, as I said, we have hundreds of signatures on over a dozen petitions that would not make the three of you very happy. Now, all I'm suggesting is

that we would please start over the lying. Do you want me to give you an example of lies or are you just going to trust me, Michelle? You need me to give you an example?

Well, when we had the pre uh voting of the councilmen, you all were at the table at the community center. I was one of the people that wrote several of the questions that were asked. that you know they were just chosen. No one knew who wrote them. Three of them were mine. And the first one I wrote was, "What about improper behavior at the council members table with yelling, belittling, and threatening workers." And everybody up there said, "No, they would never do that and they had not do it." You took the microphone and said you never would and never did do that. And we all know better than that. That is dishonesty. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry for you. I wish that you could see fit to be honest. I see no place or acceptability of council members that cannot be honest and cannot think about their decisions and their votes. I think you all know that it is illegal to visit with each other unless you're in those chairs or you're in executive decisions. Now, what transpired last week quite frankly would be very difficult to believe was not discussed beforehand. So, there's that. I'm not going to say anymore. I'm just telling you, please, we have got to make some changes. We have so many issues in this poor little town. And here's our

administration, our leaders firing leaders, firing people for no reason. And yet we have all this stuff happening. What are we going to do about our water? What are we going to do about our police officers? What are we going to do about the complaints about the yards not being mowed, the parks not being mowed? We only have so many workers because the word I hear all the time is budget. If the budget destroys a city, then there should be no budget. Is that correct? No, it's not correct. But it can't be the beall all the time. You have to spend money to take care of people. Whether you're a parent, an aunt, an uncle, a councilman, you have to spend money in this world. And everyone that runs on a no budget, very little budget, we're not going to increase the budget. You know what that means? You're dying. That's what it means. So that's all I'm going to say. Thank you for your time, by the way.

Thank you. Next, we have Jacob Maddingley. I'm not here.

James Higgins, not here. Zachary Wills, yay. I'll be stepping down after this conversation.

Uh Zach Wills, uh technically 205 East 18th. Uh coming before you guys, I've already talked to uh Jeremy Gallagher. He's your guys street street guy public works. So on the corner of Sycamore and 13th Street, the covert that go runs across 13th Street, which is drains to the north, and it's on the east side of the intersection there. It's a 10-in culvert and it's collapsed pretty much halfway through it. Um, and coming down 13th Street is a 8 in was 8 in covers and they're about 80% full whenever even with a light rain. And then coming down sycamore is an 8 in as well. And having two 8 in 8 in drains coming in is about 100.5 square inches of your area of that your cover coming through. And uh even if that covert going across 13th Street was perfectly open and clear at 10 in is only 78.5 square inches. So it actually never would work. Um I'm so what I'm doing is uh as I'm actually speaking for not just me but for our plumbing company and my dad uh is we're proposing we have 40 foot of 24 in galvanized covert with a galvani galvanized bolted band. We are willing to donate that and the cost that the co the cost of that would be for the 40 foot of it and the band is 20 roughly 2,600. We we're would like to donate that as well as a product uh the labor and equipment use to dig that collapsed 10-in covert out and put in this 24 uh which would be somewhere around 18 to like 22 2200. We're willing to donate

that. So all in total uh looking somewhere donating about $5,200 worth roughly. Um, and all that we was asking from the city is get permission to do it and if the city provide the gravel to put put in it and then the cold patch over the final product because the reason why we want to do this cuz it backs up and it floods the house that's uh north. I apologize don't have the address but it backs up and it floods into my brother's driveway and get goes up to underneath his house. gets real musty underneath there as well as the house that's on the north side of 13th right there. It back even though it's on the north side of it, it backs up over that road and it goes down goes down into their to their house. So, if we can dig that up, put a bigger culvert in, it have good flow and it goes straight to the creek from there. There ain't nothing in between that covert to the creek there on Sycamore. And like I said, I've spoke with Jeremy. He's all on board for it is all he needs is a date whenever we want to do it.

Is that the alleyway? Nope. No. No. Um wish had a good map. Uh so it's literally the intersection of 13th and Sycamore. So the school the 13th Street is the road the annex is on. Okay. So between where I live and where Puka Ry lives.

Yeah. Yeah. and where uh Bonnie Raleigh used to live. And it's that that intersection right there be the east it'd be the east side of the sycamore and 13th and a 24 in provides 452 square in of drain which is more than adequate to handle it. Do we know if we have the coal patch and the gravel to for this project or Jeremy? Do we have it? Yes, sir. We do. So, not really much out of our pocket.

Not any more than what we already have into it. Um, plus I mean it would actually be quite a save to the city. Okay. This cover just co by itself is uh right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right at $1,100 just for the 20ft section of it and we got two of them we were going to donate this advances I this would advance that portion of the storm drain system being

yeah it didn't it didn't so the area that it would actually help is the 100 block right there park uh so between park uh 13th and Laurel to Sycamore as as well as half of the water that comes from the other side of Park Street in between Laurel and Sycamore. It'll be taking taking that in and hopefully help several other homes and ditches get drained out.

He already stepped away with them donating like me donating to kids. He ain't gaining nothing. You're not gaining anything. Even in the kids program, you're not gaining anything. It still call falls under confident. But I'm not donating. You are donating. Yeah, he's not donating. That's the problem. So, but what if the city purchased the corsets from city donating? Well, they're they'll buy from me personally. I'm the one that has them.

I mean, if you want to pay $2,600, pay $2,600. Back to back to your budget. You guys, you don't want to spend money. I'm trying to help you out. That's what you guys don't want to do. Spend any money to help, right? What you don't want to do. You don't want to spend money to fix things. I'm trying to keep from showing as a conflict. It ain't going to be in conflict in conflict out here. No, thank you. Depends on where the water goes.

It goes straight to the creek. It goes straight to the creek. anymore. Yeah, I can I can write something up if you don't need to. Planning on doing the cost and everything.

Yeah, I mean when it cost like I said we be donating donating it completely. I mean, because it helps. Not only is it going to help us out help us out a lot, I mean, I've got my own personal property on in that corner. I mean, I've got thousands of dollars of worth of stuff sitting there that I don't want flooded out. And every time it rains, it's flooding out, but it also backs up and the yards there on the ONERS's rental houses, those yards turn into swamps because water can't go nowhere because of that little drain and just starts backing up and then it goes across Park Street and gets backed up. So, if you could get that in writing to present to the council so we have the exact wording of everything of what would be being agreed upon, that would be great.

I wanted to do this like three months ago, but I've got other meetings that Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, if you could just get that in writing and get it to me, I'll get it to the council. Okay, good. Mayor, thank you for your time.

Thank you. Okay, moving forward on the agenda. Um, premier comments and executive sessions. Um, I will state a question was asked earlier of me. If any information was shared from someone filling out a paper to be on the agenda, no, that information is not shared with anybody. It is kept right here in city hall and it just goes to the council at the appropriate time of that. That's as far as it goes for anything else. I'd like to make a motion that we go up to a 10 minute recess.

It's a motion for a 10-minute recess. Is there a second? Second.

It's been moved and seconded for a 10-minute recess. All in favor? We will be back here at 710. I had a treadmill. I have a question. It falls over.

You know what? Look at my backyard and the play. I would call it someone. I don't know. But in a couple of minutes for over 400 for six years at the minefield and I've had for seven years

I want to talk to you first. I'd like to talk to you just a minute. I just have one thing I want to ask. I'm sorry, Teresa. Can I speak before you do? Please don't touch me. Let me talk to you.

Can I talk?

I fully expect the last I'm just trying to speak ience part of our American freedom to ask someone to not complain. But like I like you

doing good. You can tell me anything. I have a person.

So unless something worked on every time I come up to something to try and get something done. There's red tape.

We just took over last took over the boats last Thursday. The disrespect for about 45 days.

We can point out introduced to half the

I don't know what the order All right.

Oh, no. for years.

Nice to meet you. I think I like the city or the cemetery. So here I decided to put it and then here there's up and around there. before the street. Go ahead and start. ate a grape and it was gross. Jacob helping people

resial That's how they would evacuate. process to it. It's fairly easy and so forth. So unless they sell it Oh yeah. Okay, recess has ended. We are resuming our meeting. for executive session for non-elected personnel for job performance to include the city clerk and Jimmy Watts.

I make a motion for session.

Is there a second? It's been moved and seconded for executive session for non-elected personnel job performance to include the city clerk and Jimmy Watts. All those in favor for how long?

10 minutes. We'll return at 7:21. $3600. I haven't called him yet. I think I haven't called him yet.

I haven't called in yet. what I've been told you call that day. So, I'm waiting until I'm ready, but Yeah, two cats already%

you know I don't I know of I guess I guess what does he's a seller he buys and puts that I told he had the one sick kind of sickly. So he go

Oh, hey But then she'll be fine.

I sat here for 10 minutes. So I take down on the agenda on the back stress out

only be returned back to what it was prior to when the rest of the council started. And of course he positioned it as they were as a 100% pay increase. Well, if they weren't just returning back to what it was before and it's only fair. So I mean yeah so I just and I spoke my mind and the mayor put me up to it and also and here's the thing. So he basically called integrity into question when he was making In his famous speech, he called

he called me up and he called my he called my integrity directly into question. So now someone that has no integrity call your integrity and question and he has proven it time and time before you ever moved here. He's proven it in public. I see it. So you get to know people, you get to know how they feel and you get to know what

I don't know Pardon me. I looked at the picture. I don't know.

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Do you know what it means?

And I did not call reasonable. You know what we are? Where are we at here? my wife. I hope so. Yeah,

don't Right.

There you go. There you go.

Executive session ended. Resuming normal meeting. If I could get a motion for an executive session for not elected personnel for job performance to include the city of uh the city clerk and James Eastwood make a motion to go into executive session for personnel with the city clerk. We can't hear you guys for 10 minutes

and I second moved and seconded for an executive session for non-elected personnel for 10 minutes to include the city clerk and James Eastwood to return at 7:32. We'll be right back. All in favor? We'll be right back. More executive hiring and filing. long dark.

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You get it online. Yes. Well, it's on YouTube. It's being it's being recorded right now.

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something return. your best and yell at her. Best course of action is to be able to channel her obedience and work on her getting excited like that. channel her into something that's already situation. So I usually teach people negatively negative direction you know smack whatever you are channel it into something positive you can get them in obedience get them doing something productive instead of the negative thing that Yeah.

process. You know, there's the same teacher, they don't quite as anxiety, elevating Well, one of those things was just like, you know,

even with the I mean, it's kind of bark. going right now.

And there's no problem with that. You know, you can We got one that doesn't Once we get the AC fix, it might be just as cool as that should be in here. I want to have check.

Get that. That's a spider. Good.

Get a shotgun. We just talked about that today. Yeah. No thanks. She'll do snakes though.

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No idea. I need a call. selling stuff. Okay. Executive session ended. Action taken. Resuming normal meeting. We need a motion. Um I if I can get a mo a motion for an executive session for non-elected personnel. But do we need to make a motion? Um, if we want to, uh, then I would request consent of councel to appoint James Eastwood as animal control officer and public works.

He's already public works, but it's combining the two. Appointing James Eastwood as animal control officer uh, part-time as he continues as a public works employee. I get a motion for consent, please. I'll make a motion for consent of uh James Eastwood to uh continue as street map on the public works and uh becoming the uh col the animal control employee as a full-time employee.

I second Okay, it's been moved and seconded to have Jane Eastwood continue with public works and be the animal control officer as a full-time employee amongst the two. Any discussion? All in favor pass unanimous. Then if I can get a motion for an executive session for non-elected personnel for job performance to include Josh Rowley and the city clerk

like to make a motion for an executive session for non-elected personnel for job performance to include the uh city clerk and Josh Riley. I'll second for how long? Uh for 10 minutes. 10 minutes. All in favor? We'll return at 7:43.

What are they deciding on now? job performance with city with city open. I do not know.

I think that's what I just saw. We are we are under a watch until 1:00 a.m. Tuesday.

We're under a watch. Okay. Morgan's going to go open it. It's a We're under a tornado watch until 1:00 a.m. Tuesday. So Morgan's going to go open the shelter. So the walls coming about 9:15 till 1 a.m.

Are you going to go home? Are you home for tomorrow? Jackie said she looked about we just kicked a bunch of chicks out to their coops and now I'm like we're going to have to go pull those in. So those I know it's supposed to rain last night. All 20 of my chicks, they've got half their pins covered. What were they doing? Sleeping in the rain. It's like they're trying to kill themselves. Been doing our weather boots. You guys, you know,

I do not. Estimated arrival 11. Okay. Morgan wants to go ahead and unlock the shelter. Jimmy's got it. Jimmy's got it. Yeah, cuz he's leaving anyway. He's going to go unlock the shelter and turn all the lights on. Okay.

Yeah.

Oh, okay. Two two of them. The one behind the community center is manual. Water. at least it's not a PBS watch.

I'll take you know what's messed up. She knew about it. She didn't call you to check on you. You're just going to let you get

it. tornado. I don't know. driving up here and I had my wife on the phone giving me updates on what the storm was

doing 52. I had a migraine.

We'll see. just like I was like maybe I know I tell you what the the other day.

Oh, yeah.

And so, did you even get in them? I did. I know every single one. I mean, you know, people are like honestly because it helps clean the under Oh yeah.

Yeah. uh from our 748. Oh yeah, Roseville. The VA 155ation. My grandfather was an engineer.

I think that

Yeah, we just have to deal with the Philippines. We test and after we secure it out like whatever young guys come back shop we did some of the extinguishers small extinguishers Good.

Okay. Executive session ended. Action taken. Resuming normal meeting. If I could get a motion for an executive session for non-elected personnel for job performance to include Zack Ross and the city clerk. I'd like to make a motion from executive session from non-elected personnel for job performance to include Zach Ross and uh the city clerk for how long? Uh 10 minutes.

Okay. Is there a second? I have a second. All in favor? Okay, we'll return at 7:53.

You don't even like me. You're in a dog house no matter what. I got out of bed this morning. From the moment I open my eyes, no good son of a Step up now. Oh my gosh. retires.

You know what they say? You can't live with them. You can't live with them. What can't we live with? Don't look at me. I want to throw him back in the

I don't think both of us

don't took a while.

Come on. still got a boo on the bed and I guess out of store like she can't sleep. She took one of the navy socks and stick it right if you and allure.

Was it close to you yet?

No. disappointed. You ask her about that one. I don't understand why everything's executive. Just

we're not supposed to know nothing. Sam, you get a nice breeze coming through here. I'm so glad my kids came. I've been trying. These are my kids, you know. I know. I've been trying. You scared? West. No, not you. I'm going by her. Oh, she's banning. Maybe it'll kill the snake. I like snakes. It's not good.

Yeah. Mayor, I used to call her that for years. There's a storm over Hutch right now. in hail right now that's headed orders probably

it'll be several hours before 11 they're way by 135 and head towards the northeast that the storms that are coming our way conflict are down by witch right now clue

what unless it sinks down but you don't know tell me what it means I'll explain it. Mr. Brains, can you start them? Giving $6,000 worth of stuff to the city is conflict. Your boy's over there.

I didn't blow up. I for all this crazy baby.

No, that's enough. So much like his father, you know, you just let everybody in here, don't you? Scares me. That's the officer. It's like the best one's gone. Can I tell you? You're still under training though. Thank you. Huh? Still under training. Don't tell him that. That's a good excuse. You got that big test. Did they talk to him? No, barely. No, they didn't. They didn't ever answer. James, what do you want me to do?

I guess they went with what else? Well, the numbers that he gave was not correct. What? The numbers that he gave was not correct. They They don't come inside. Oh, Pleasanton addresses Holiday Lakes. Well, I'm going to tell you something. Trading Post 52 Highway Creek. They don't come into Pleasanton to do that. When they come into Pleasanton, it's to back me up or get gas at Casey's. And I haven't even been calling them for backup because every time they complain about cars with no backup. I run the dog with no backup. About the facts.

About two years ago, me and Paul died by his place and threw chasing a guy. Yeah. scene hooked up Missouri cops around the guy wrecked the car right there at the railroad tracks Amsterdam I can't remember Jack Jackie you might remember this he had they had drugs he had like 10,000 $8 or $10,000 cash oh about two years ago I remember Yeah, I remember that. She does too.

Plus took the drugs and Missouri took cash had it. They never even the damn calls and everybody scanners heard it all. But they're right there, my guy. They'll tell you they were there. Yeah. Oh, good. Good.

Hey, secret message out of the box. Executive session ended. Action taken. Resuming normal meeting. do that. Um, we can do that. If we want clarification, clarification can be for that. Um,

a clarification needs to be made regarding the appointment or the reappoint of officer Ross. Um, that reappoint of officer Ross was um intended to be with his current title of sergeant still. Um, if the council does agree with that, a motion for that would be appropriate. for that clarification of appointment. I make a motion to clarify appointment that he is Sergeant Ross and that was taken out second.

Any discussion? All in favor? Unanimous. Thank you for helping clarify that. Mr. Mayor, may I ask for clarification on one thing? Yes, sir. Is that probationary period still in effect or no? No. No. Thank you, sir. If I could get um a motion for executive session for potential appointments for 15 minutes. I make a motion for executive session for potential appointments with the mayor clerk. Um with city clerk, please.

With the city clerk for 15 minutes. Second. It's been moved and seconded for an executive session for potential appointments with the city clerk for 15 minutes. All in favor? Returning at 8:10. rib

if you need a different fan. Let me know congratulations. Yeah, definitely. Mix it.

Thank you. You said the same thing you said first time like five minutes. He's like five minutes. Was there anything in that packet cuz I didn't get one here early. Was there anything in the packet about potential plat for that subdivision on 17?

I don't I wouldn't hold my breath if I were It sounded like something. I don't think it was just the lot. But normally when you're going to build a subdivision, you usually have a platform set up how it's going to be subdivided where streets are going to be. I don't think he wants to go to the expense of an architect or even a that's what I mean about that. Exactly my point.

Yeah. He doesn't have to spend any money into it. He needs to he needs to know whether the council is going to actually milk. I just you don't have to be strong all the time. Here, baby. Thank you. You're welcome. I told Jack we couldn't find a trash. So is this one. My office. Oh, you cutie. Follow the trail.

Oh, boy.

There's very few places, unfortunately. And they're trying. Did you see how they hand dug right out there in the lawn? Across from where my house is. Um, and I'm sort of kidding this way from Johnson's Automotive. They hand dug that whole old curve and runway of water where the sewer used to be. Hand dug it. And today when it was pouring rain, it was working like imagine. So, it's just a matter of doing that in a bunch of different places. Yeah. On our property, we have a lot of standing water.

We do, too. We have Lake Palm that we call on the corner. So, the the trailer park has a has a drainage. I would call it a swale because I don't know that it drains anywhere. I think it just retains like a it's not full on tension because it's not deep enough for that, but it holds the water. Is pretty And the only time it runs is when it pours rain. The rest of the time it just stays about 4 ft deep. Between us and the Southeast Kansas Mental Health Center, there's that whole area gets really bogged in there. You're one of many.

So, but also around the foundation from the foundation. So, my pump isn't French drain. Big bucks. Unless you do it yourself. I'm chilling. I mean, it is your birthday and all that kind of Happy birthday, Brad. Thanks. How old are you? 15. 15. Oh, driver. It's driving time. Wow. Unfortunately, yes. All right. I need some boilers. No. What do you mean? Why not?

I'm good. I'd like you to be a good driver. I got my first ticket at 14 on Main Street. About got mine. So did I. And I thought I had Right. Mom, I about got my first ticket at 14 on Main Street, too. Yeah,

I got three tickets in one. Three tickets, one shot right off the bat. Great State here. And so he came outside. Oh, I was choking on my You can stay.

Excuse me. This is not our windshield. You don't think that's the best thing because I'm sitting and I look and it's right there. So I he was sitting out and he go left Impact.

That's for sure. Whenever I see them together, they're like Yep. Those are fun. Yeah. I had no at all. They're good to

You should have picked them up. I always said I wanted I got one. As dumb as I Yeah. I freaked him out. He actually in Dollar General said I haven't seen you look scares me. Really? It needs to be I have proof that you do know how to wear a suit and it wasn't for our wedding. Yeah,

he got our Gucci pie. How's our Gucci pie?

I know it. I bet if dad told him to get him that breed dog does they're very loyal and they love kids if they're not taught to be mean such thing as a bad dog I agree 100% that fan I can feel all of a sudden you go right in here or what is it? What is it going to rain in here? Yeah, it's like so they'll be here tomorrow to fix the air conditioner.

It's amazing how beautiful this building gets. Congratulations. No, I just got out of Okay, when he decides he wants it, I'll poop. You're not old. You haven't said my last three, so don't cry now.

199. What are you thinking about?

My V8 appointment. I weigh 193. I never weighed that much. The most I've ever weighed 135. That's very damaging. Kansas. The way I see it is

that excited. Does it look Do the gas. Watch your mouth. to the game. Later, are you leaving already? Well, hey, I got to get cleaned up. I got to get up there 6:30 in the morning. Going to see Oh, you're going to the veterans tomorrow. Oh, yeah. Spill. Thank you, Lord. It's just a sweat from the glasses. No, I think there's a hole in it. Yeah, there is. You're right. Where's that trash can?

I'll see you guys. Take it easy. You ever want to talk about marriage? Talk to me. I'll tell you all about it. Don't do it.

Be cool. That's what your dad

know's not that big, but Well, but when he pushes on your shoulder and stuff, he is strong.

That's why I said Freddy and then he come back. You got multiple running? No, just dog. One dog. One dog. Especially when it's

leg, pressure going out. East and one of the big that one and then there's the front

the front section that one building there in the front and that hole you might You can also use the bucket to turn. Depends on who driving.

Yeah. And it also depends on you. Right. Executive session ended. Resuming normal meeting.

Uh departmental reports and financial overview on that. Um departmental reports. We have Jeremy here. Jeremy, if you would just come and come up and introduce yourself to the council. really hadn't really other than seeing me working had a chance to

Hi. Uh my name is Jeremy Gallagher. Uh I just recently got hired on for uh the head of the street department. Um if you guys need anything or have any questions, feel free to ask. More than happy to answer them. um any uh recommendations or um problems that you guys have. Uh I try to keep up to date on all of the work orders, keep them organized so that way I can prioritize what's important and what I can do as of right now and what I can do in a matter of time. So feel free if you guys have any questions, feel free to ask. So,

how's the uh how's the parking going out at the pool? Um, as of right now, uh I estimate that I have probably about another 20 to 30 minutes of labor to do out there that I hope to complete by tomorrow and be ready to pour as soon as I can get a little bit of dry weather. Awesome. With all the rain coming. Yes. So, thank you for getting on that. Absolutely. No problem. Is that everything? Yeah. Thanks for everything you do. Absolutely. Proud of you. Thank you.

Thank you. First off, I'd like to thank the mayor and the council for moving me up at the last meeting so I could go to the storm spotter training because that's that is something that I felt the community needed to, you know, we needed to attend to better influence in what we do to help the community out. So, thank you very much for moving me up the list. Uh since the last meeting, we've had two calls. Um we've had um several people at the storm spotter training whenever I got up there. Um also last Tuesday, we had a combined training with uh 920, 960, and 910 where city fire and and the other three county stations got together. We did water relay pumping, filling tenders, things like that. Uh really good training. Everybody was excited for it. um things like that. Um and then yesterday afternoon, if you happen to go by the station, you saw that we were doing some training in the station. That is called vest training. It's ventilation in entry and search training. Um, that is kind of a specific room thing to where if somebody is in supposed to be in a specific room where we're not having to go completely through the house to get to a person, you know, we can actually go directly into through a window and control the environment and get the people out while other people are taking care of the situation going in the rest of the of the structure. Um hopefully within the next two weeks um I would like to try to do some hydrant

flushing and some um pressure spot checks that the ISO wants us to get done. That's all going to be dependent upon the water situation. Make you know I'm going to be in contact with Josh to make sure there's no leaks, no water main breaks, no nothing like that going on. I'm well in advance of letting him know that um we're going to be doing this flushing stuff. Um also I'm going to be getting with him about some of the hydrants for issues that we found with some of the hydrants and we're going to be getting that that stuff taken care of as well. Um the last thing I have is one of the things that um ISO wants is the standard operating guidelines that we have. I would like if you guys want to to set up a workshop to get the part that we have sent to you finalized. I do know that we still have that I want to do some kind of like a a mass emergency situation planning and we are in the process of getting that taken care of. But um you know we can add that in later. I would just like to be able to get some kind of a guideline in place to where we can actually work off of what our guidelines say and not necessarily what um city you know we can work off of city codes but we can work off of our guidelines and in what we want to do moving forward. So, if you guys would be or if you all would be interested in doing something like that, we um I'm request I'm asking for a workshop to where we can go over the final things. Um if we need to do any changing, if we need to do any whatever we need to do and get that to where we can get that in ink for the fire department so I can get that to ISO saying yes, we have these operating guidelines for us to follow. Yeah.

Now, the last thing that you sent only had the first half of that or whatever what what we had completely gone through. Have you been able to get the rest of that? Um, I was I thought that had everything in it. I will double check my email and if if it is not complete, Ben, I will get that sent to you tonight. I will get it sent to to the mayor tonight and order straight on to them. That would be fantastic.

And my apologies because I thought it had everything in it whenever I was reading it. Okay. And when do we want to have a work session for that? I know you guys are busy with budgets and everything else, so I'm just trying to get on the list at some point. We want to try for a Monday or a Saturday or another day of the week that might work.

Well, if you haven't went through the other half of it. Yeah.

The um the second half that we went through was on a Saturday that um myself and you and Kenny was here for a while and had to leave. But the What is it that he's still needing to get? Um, apparently the last email that I sent didn't have the second part that we did on that Saturday. So that is I thought it was in there on the email. So I will go and get that taken care of and get that sent to send it. So

I just need to send the complete thing to you or the second half and then you can have them to where we can get it combined. See what it is May 28th. That's a Thursday. Yeah. Does that work for everybody? I'll make it work.

Thursday the 28th. Does that work for everybody? That wouldn't work. He wouldn't work. That wouldn't work for him. But you I mean I mean it ain't mandatory. So do we have court that day? That's a fourth. No, first and third. Yeah, there's no court that day. I could do it, but it have to be like six. It works for me. Okay. Is that

Yep. We'll do the 28th from 6:00. That's all I have. If you guys don't have any questions, comments, I don't think so. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Sorry. Sergeant Ross, you want to speak in Tristan's absence on the uh numbers? I would drive farm.

Uh 147 calls, uh four citations, 40 traffic stops, fishing license check was 30, five arrests, four drug cases, nine case reports, 11 call outs, and just a reminder that as of yesterday, we are in click it or tickets. So please click it, click it, click it. Mr. Mayor, do you guys need anything further from me this evening? I do not believe so, sir. Have a good evening, guys. Happy Tuesday,

Right. Ordinance number 2067, vacating a portion of Cedar Street. Did everybody get a chance to go see where the flag placements and lines are for everything?

Yes. If you did not, I have some pictures here um of where they are. It looks like there's about um right at 30 ft between the gas line and the water line with the septic line running in the middle of that and we would have to have right away remain open for that. So, uh, right now the opening for that street is at 70 ft, 35 either way from center. So, if we were to vacate that street itself, it would have to remain open. Um, or they couldn't put anything on it where our lines currently are. That means the fence that they would want to build, they could build um up to but not over that. gas line there. At least the gas company would appreciate not on top of their line,

which I would say 5T from it. Be 5T. Yeah. So, you know, you get enough room for an exper. Is there a ordinance or resolution on that on the set? Yes, it is 5T from the easement. What did you say?

I believe so. Yes. So right now the way the ordinance is written in point three it says there is hereby reserve to the city and to all public utilities such rights of way and easements on through under or access said vacated street as exist at the time of the approval of this ordinance pursuant to KSA 12512A. So the wording of it, the vacating of it does cover for the easements. Uh it just means that whenever they submit for the permit to put up the fence that it would be guided by such easements and right So, if it's the desire of the council to go ahead with the vacating of that portion of Cedar Street, you would need a motion to accept ordinance 2067. I'd

like to make a motion to accept the ordinance number 2067. Uh vacating portions of Ced Street. Is there a second?

It's been moved and seconded. Any discussion? All those in favor? Passes unanimous. A portion of Cedar Street seat is vacated. General Pleasanton dates soon and up and coming. Um, we need a committee meeting for that. Um, I would propose that we have a meeting for General Pleasanton days. Um, does any of the council wish to be part of that committee for general pleasant days? No. Okay. Um, so I would put forth that we have a meeting for the general pleasant days committee on May 27th at noon at the community center. If I could have Morgan check and see if the community center is available that day, the 27th I'll try try to make that meeting.

Send me a reminder. May 27th. There's your It's free. Okay. So, General Pleasant, today's committee meeting will be the 27th of May. And I would invite those from the community that wish to be part of that committee to come and put in your two cents or three and a half dollars to making that a memorable continued memorable event. What time? Noon.

Okay. Time clocks. Um, I did look at several ones including the one that Kenny had submitted for and there's u system overviews, pricing, different things on those, what they can and can't do uh that you have in your pack. The ones I looked at were Connect Team, Team Clock 365, Uttend RA2000, easy time clock and pay core. Uh the various pricings and so forth are not excessively different on some of them. Uh some of them have free up to so many users and then costs after that while others is more of a medium mid or enterprise tier. We're more along the line of the mid tier for the number of employees we have. Some of them is solely online. Some of them is phone activated or phone usable. Some are just station oriented. So it would be what does the council want to go with? Um several of these auto can automatically calculate, computate and keep track of the hours, the overtime and everything else. Making it easy for our payroll people. Is there one or two of these that you all would like to get excessively more information on or with precise calculations of annual cost and everything?

Mr. Mayor, I'd just like to know what was the time clock in the budget from last year with the old council or was there a special fund for it?

Um, as far as budgeting wise and so forth, it's not anything that was added for that in itself or specific line item that I'm aware of. So, we're looking at trying to institute a new time clock system uh under the constraints of a budget that it wasn't budgeted for, plus with other things in the city that needs to be done. And I I don't see how that's possible. potentially um if you go through a lot of these and um listen to and go through the demo, it actually gives multiple points or reasons that a time clock system like this could potentially save the city money for um those exact clockins and clock outs and different things like that. Um at the same point, you know, you could argue either way on that. Um, if our employees are being honest and sincere as we would hope and expect for them to be employees, then not much is going to show difference hour-wise than what they do now.

But if we go to like a phone based one, we'd have to also purchase new phones for the employees that don't have phones. Correct. Um, so that's another cost.

Not necessarily. It would just be uh working both sides here. I know that some people say, well, you don't you don't have rights to mandate that they put something on their phone. At the same point, I have worked for a lot of jobs that I had to have my clock on my phone. Um both being tracked and not being tracked. And quite frankly, I don't like being tracked, but at the same point, I'm never anywhere I'm not supposed to be. So, um I mean, you could play either or up or down with a lot of that as far as price range goes. um the more in-depth one of connect teams that Kenny had provided previously uh that shows here price line of about $49 to $59 a month entry level um for mid tier level on that it's $29 a month for the first 30 users for the entry level the mid tier offers a few more items within that uh I know the pricing that they gave whenever Kenny was asking questions was around $1,300 a year.

Mhm.

So, if even if you go for the $99 a month, that's $1,200 a year. So, pros, cons, um I I can say it really depends on how you look at it. Uh in times past, there have been employees that have wrongly adjusted their time clocks, their time sheets, we'll put it that way. So, um, as far as mishaps go, a person can forget to clock in or clock out or or miss it or show up to an emergency and forget. Uh, in that case, the u city clerk would be able to go in and adjust their time clock um on that. And that would be something that I know my preference would be is if she has to continuously adjust somebody's time clock, that person needs to be talked to because that is a mishap of expected job performance.

And then what and also with connect team is you can turn off the tracking. So you're not tracking anybody. Yeah. You're just tracking their hours and it has their pay and keeps track and they can look to see I've made hundred and something dollars today. So the track tracking the citizens. Yeah, I disagree with that too. So I wouldn't want to be tracked. So I I the same way they do about being so that obviously shut off completely and it's all done, you know, internally. So yeah,

I just want to make sure it's cost effective, especially with, you know, saving, you know, people's times as far as, you know, uh, payroll and everything, but on top of it, the allout cost of it. So that balances out. It's going to save her countless hours. Yeah, it'll save her a lot of calculation times. Write it all down. It's all done automatically. So all she's got to do is, okay, this person did this many hours. This is their paychecks. It's all right down in front of them. But everything going on computer nowadays, it seems like. So, since we do have public works and we have two ladies from the office, what is your guys's opinion on this?

Oh, no. I city employees, what is your take on this, please?

As far as I'm concerned, I don't really have a problem with time clock. I've worked with well several of them over the years. I don't really care. Uh you got Turbo and James. Excuse me, Jeremy. You'll have to ask them their opinion. I don't really care. Um I this I'm just asking a question. I don't see why we're wanting to pay for a system where you can get a system that goes through your computers and things like that. There's got to be ones out there that are cheap enough that you can still do it. I mean, I'm just throwing it out there. It because seems like an awful lot of money to pay for a time clock, but as far as the time clock is concerned, I don't care one way or the other.

We had We still have them. I was going to say they haven't been here since since I've been here. Okay. One of them malfunctioned. We did have to order another one and uh so it's brand new within the last month and uh it's come with time cards and everything time stamp time box. Why can't we put them back out and have them start using the time box? You said water bills. So I mean you can come in and you said there was the ones with the cards. We got the card doodad holders over there. So So if we put them put them up I got no problem with those. I've used them clocking in and out. already got the software. I mean, it's already there.

That saves a a fee, an annual fee or monthly or whatever the case is. You're going to have to calculate. So, what's your opinion on having to calculate versus using that? Um, you know, honestly, just trying to get into the swing of whichever we decide to go with, I have no issue calculating it one way or the other. Um, you know, there's a lot of tasks that I have to work on. So, the less time I spend on one thing, the more I can spend on others. So, I'm I'm really kind of open to it either way. It's going to have to be calculated one way or the other.

Connect Teams has a free up to 10 users. Can I ask a question? Um, is that going to come down to the lifeguards? Are they going to have to come up here to clock in? We would I mean, we would to do the time the clocking system, we would really need a clock in people are so for the pool, for the water plants, for public works up here, for the office itself. So, we would need four. How many do we have? I mean, I have 12 life. Well, there's 12 of us total. Um, so I You just said that it was free of the 10 broad. So you have how many life cards? Me plus 11.

So there's 12 there and 12 here is 24. So that would still fall within 30 users for entry level at 29 a month for and how many thing time cards um things do we have?

Uh we have two. One of them is not operating properly. That's why we purchased the new one. Um, I believe we spent around 150 give or take on it. Um, it did come with multiple time cards, which I'm sure we can order or even maybe copy our own, however you guys wanted to do that. Um, but we could order another one if you wanted to go manual like that. Uh, I don't know how public works would want to do it if they want to run over here and clocking it out every time.

Make no difference to me. I mean, something as trivial as that, I don't care. I I don't I don't think it's worth the time and effort to sit and debate for months on it. I mean, you know, if it's over there, okay. If it's over here, okay. I mean, it's not like we're very far apart. So, but really we could put one at the pool that's only open for 2 and a half months, right? And after that's done, then you right in the right over to your side and then there'd be two. Yeah, cuz they're all universal machines anyways. So, yes.

Or would we get one for each one of our control vehicles? on my training. I can't come in the office and in or that would be extenduating circumstances when they're a training or so forth. They would have to write down and if we get called in, see I I get called in for a domestic or something something going on. I'm not going to come to the office and walk in before I go to this call. It's going to be a lot of write downs for the police department. Whereas I just I think it's easy the way it is cuz it's all it's already long. We go today on the radio and it's log today. That's in service. Yeah.

My question is on this with the city workers or the lifeguards, if they forget to clock in and they go down a time, who's going to initial it that it's the right time? Your supervisor. Supervisor would have to. That's the way it always was. Yeah. Theoretically, if you don't put a machine at the pool and they we just give them those cards and have them write their in and out. I mean, I have their schedule. I mean, I make their schedule, so I could check it. I mean, like, oh, you were scheduled to work Tuesday from noon to 6. Why'd you put your here at 10:30 in the morning? Like, you know, I I like I could check it, but sign off.

Yeah. So, what do we think?

I say purchase another one. You've already got an in system pick up another one. So they got so proper because they all have one as far as you know the police department you know that's going to have to be you know when they get called in that could be Chief Snder have to write all that stuff down or whoever calls in. So however that works out their job never ends. Yeah. Well, like you said, they're they're on call.

Well, that it's when they go in route, it's on JPS and stuff. So, what do you fill out now to get paid? Time sheet, but it comes exactly from the catalog of when I went 108, when I went 107. So, you take it off the central square, correct? And that seems like it would be sufficient for them to continue to do that. And then just the other department using that stand cards that work for you all.

Okay. The the only thing that I would ask is is I think that they should have one over there as well because for example we get called out for some situation trees down water man breaks whatever and we have to come in the office people aren't here I don't have a key to this we got to get you keys you want to have two two I think there needs to be one at public works the swimming pool, the water plant, um, and city hall. And city hall

because you're pulling off a central square. So that's accurate. It's right there with you guys. You don't have to. The only time it's not in Central Square is we're in training because there's no point calling in if I'm in Texas. I know it's extenduating. Yeah, but that that's where you can get with your supervisor and adjust your time. Don't we already have an extra one? You need to order the first one is broker. Okay. So, that's why we order the the newest one. So, you'll have to order three extra ones. That is correct. Yeah. And how much are they? About $150, give or take. I can get you an extra price on it. I was just curious. And so,

we're going to go with them. We just need them and it's still within That's a lot cheaper then. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Well, then off the unfinished business. Can I ask one more question about this? Um, so like I do the shopping for the pool like you know all the things. How do you want me to go about doing that? Like clocking in and out. Go to the pool first, head to the city or wherever and then or just leave my house, take the gas to go across town. Obviously that a right in would you?

If she writes it in, it would have to be approved by her supervisor. Yeah. And that would be Jimmy is my supervisor. So Jimmy is her actual supervisor because she's part of the pool. He's over at Park Lakes and pool. So, so if he doesn't want to do it, we can't. Well, we was all pointing, so I was just getting in on it. You know, it would technically fall to him.

The only thing um we might want to or you might want to think about, which it doesn't take a lot of time. Um John and Josh has to do what they call uh screenshots on the weekends. That's of the water plant. Now, part of what has gotten this all stirred up, and I know it is, is because people in the past was charging two hours per screenshot. Now, you know how long it takes to take a screenshot? Not very long. So, I mean, might have to want might want to think about working something out with them on that cuz they literally pull out their phone, take a screenshot, and they're done. So, what does their job description say?

They have they have to do that. But I mean, does it say that they would get paid a 2hour call back? That I don't know. That's why I'm saying that that might be something you want to discuss. It does. It doesn't. Um, what was discussed with them with the previous council and all um involved them actually working it in to leave a little early on some of those because on the weekends they have to go to uh the plant and everything still to cover that. But at night, those little clips that they had to do, it's just part of their job. So work leave a little early and work that in. Okay. So I mean that would be whatever you guys worked out I guess. Yep.

Cuz if something comes up and they have to come in they have to come there anyway. Yeah. Um BG consultants it was asked to find out if they would look at the pool. Uh so Jimmy don't go too far. Don't go too far. Uh so we'll be stepping away from this.

Bring my 30 with me. So BJ Consultants uh actually gave us a proposal to come down and look at the pool, look it over, find out what all is needing and wrong and uh presenting a what needs to be done to fix it, bring it up to par, etc., etc. And to come down and look at it, their proposal is $4,500. So, I know it was something that was mentioned last year and the year before that we need somebody to put eyes on the pool and tell us what all we need to be um done with it. I know there's a potential mainline in small leak

u u and so forth that needs to be addressed in some way or another. And where would that leak be at? Because we don't know. I really don't. Where do you see the water coming up?

It comes out from under the pool. So all the all the piping and as far as I know, all of it comes through a about a 2 and 1/2t square out of the ground, comes up, then it goes into its little tower of terror and down into wherever it goes. And that the one the main comes up. Well, we thought that it came from the meter out by the fence through this way and then up this way. In fact, it does not. because it it blew off and then it exposed the line and it comes back this way underneath the pool. When the water is on to the building, it undermines something underneath there. We don't know where, how far, or how much, but it brings sand out from under the building into that pit. So, we know it's leaking somewhere.

So, there's a small flow of water into that pit that there's a sump pump in that constantly just runs every every little bit. Yeah. 15 20 minutes. Yeah, I have a picture. Yeah, there you go. That's not inside the pit. That's just the uh awesomeness

that it is. Um the other day I was down there trying to replplum this thing and there's it's 4-in pipe and it's got a big collar on it. It's been there for ages looks like. But the back side of it I noticed something was kind of looked like it was dangling. So, I looked around and I'm like, "Oh, well, that's cool." It was an entire tension bolt and it just sitting there swinging. Completely broke off. So, it's a matter of time before it gives out. Um, we're going to have to do something. She's old, she tired, and she needs help. That's all there is to it. We can throw all kinds of fixing to it, money at it, and hope to God it stays together type of thing. But if we don't have somebody come down there that specializes in this and knows what these systems do on a regular basis, all we're doing is shooting in the dark.

Does that company is that what they specialize in? Do they know? BG Consultants has multiple different branches within different things. So, what they would be doing is sending down a specialist for pool systems and so forth. We do know that the old filter,

we like to never got it to seal up last year cuz when we changed the sand, um, we got that changed for the most part. It's still about a third of its old, but uh, we didn't want to take all of it out on the assumption or the risk of collapse on the inside. So, we left the bottom foot and a half or whatever. When we tried to seal it, the dome was so rusted that we had to stack rubber tube, like tire tubes. We had to cut them down, stack them this thick just to get it to seal back up. It was so bad. So, it it's a matter of time before it goes completely out. Also, the main valves to do to get it to pump to backwash things like that. They're 6-in valves, but they're only about this big around now because they're completely rotted off and gone. So, it leaks water and bleeds it and does whatever it wants to do. It's not actually going in the pump or back washing or back to the pool or whatever the case is. It just kind of does its own thing. So, we've got a lot of problems. And in in conjunction of that, it it's not actually operating at full capacity.

It's only running about half capacity right now. And it should be doing far more than what it's doing. Plus, the kitty pool, everybody knows we've had issues with that thing for years. I mean, it's it's an ongoing battle with that. So, I just don't want that thing to wind up imploding one of these days and then we're sitting here going, "Oh, well, we need $100,000 to fix it." Now, if we can do something to kind of get something going and working on a plan, then maybe we can get something done with it. Even if it's a little bit at a time, just fixing the worst of the worst and then take out other stuff later. We have to I mean this is all the kids have so to do you know.

I know. Yeah. I mean Mountain City sorry to say they don't have anything. No they ripped theirs out and I can tell you being over there three days a week that's what I've heard it's not that great and used maybe one or two kids but nothing. Other than that I guess I was also told that the uh swimming pool at the marina in Lacine they shut it down. I guess. I didn't know that. Completely out. Yeah. Oh, they took it out. Out. Oh, and all they have is lacing and you don't have to I mean some of the kids here cannot travel up there. Parents work or whatever. No.

So, I mean, we cannot shut the pool down. I make a motion that we hire consultants for the pool to come down and look at the pool. The $4,500. $4,500. I second. Okay, it's been moved and seconded to process the contract for BG Consultants for $4,500 to check out our pool. Any discussion? Where's the money going to come from? What department? Well, coming from the pool. Can we do it all from the pool? Cuz we could probably split it from general fund or the pool don't have 4500.

No. Um we could pull it from general since we have um a lowering there of expenditures. Yeah, it can come out of general.

Okay. Any other discussion? All in favor passes four with one extension. Okay. Um, kids fishing derby is fast approaching. It is the 6th of June. Hey, will the lake be pristine by June 6th for fishing?

I just bugging you for a moment. Is the lake going to be nice and pristine for the fishing derby on six? It's still at stakey. Yes. Yes. Okay. Uh is there anything specific that you guys want out there this year? Cuz I know there was supposedly some talk about doing other things out there other than just what it was. Just the fishing derby at this point. Oh, I didn't know if you wanted any kind of other stuff out there, more picnic tables or anything like that. Do we want any other picnic tables or anything else out there? I think Most of the people are going to be out there standing on the bank not in weeds fishing. Will the weeds off off the bank?

Um I'll get them as far as I can. Um with this rain it it's going to be touch and go. It depends on how much it is. I'll get as far as I can, but I make no promises because this wheel loader does not like mud. Do we have a simple homework? No, we do not. We did. It disappeared. So, um, that got brought up last year. Huh? What do you mean?

Uh, supposedly we had one. Becky had actually found uh the cancelled check where one was bought, but I cannot find it unless it's buried in a pile. That mountain of stuff out back, dirt and whatever else has been thrown back there over the years. Unless it's under that. When me and John took and clean slated that whole backyard and we cut the weeds this tall down and we found all these other pieces of equipment, none of that was in there. There was not a sickle mower at all in there. So, and I know that the citywide um cleanup has started. Yeah. And all this stuff

uh until I can get to the landfill. As much as it rained last night, I was not chancing taking our dump trucks down there and burying them because landfill's policy is if you get it stuck, you get it out. So, um, if it doesn't rain, with any luck, we can start getting that stuff out of there. I did not want to do that, just for the record, but I really didn't want to bury one of our trucks in that landfill. So, because that could have turned into a very expensive ordeal. Would you be able to give us a price on a second mower?

For you talking about for the tractor or cuz they we had discussed it last year. One for the tractor, one for the skid steer cuz you can get them both both ways. Don't care. Now, we've got the articulating bush hog, but there again, you're still only limited only going to be able to go out so far. Well, you said with the skids here. Yes. In the mud, that's going to be an issue. So, it would have to be for the tractor, right? Okay. That's why I wanted to make sure because there's every time that we go and do something then things get changed. That's why I wanted specification. We want it for the tractor specifically then I can find pricing for it and see what I can come up with.

Thank you. Yep. Now you're good. Okay. Just walk out for five minutes to me. Okay. The personnel training, sexual harassment, and so forth. U what was the council's final decision on that? Do we want to um do that as a group thing or and have it signed off on or do you want them to actually do it and pay for the cert as pay for the certificate for that as a reimbursement or what? I think it's good.

Yeah. Okay. We get that behind us.

Okay. Uh Culver's at 12 and Laurel. Jeremy. So I think right now everybody knows that as 12 goes into Laurel right there around cookies. Uh when it rains it kind of just floods that whole area cookie parking lot and everything else. Um Jeremy went out and we're able to look and and put together a plan of how to fix that water flow. and uh you need $4,42 for the covert stuff for the remainder of the covers and uh connection bands for the culverts to see that. But it just has to

I have gone through the county and gotten as many of them as I could from the county because that was the cheapest way and this is the remainder of what I need to complete that project. How much was it?

4,4235. What do we have in our streets? How much was it?

Uh 4,4235. I make a motion that we approve to order the remainder of the Culver and the bands for $4, and $42.35. I second. It's been moved and seconded to approve the purchase of the rest of the culverts and bands for $4,42.35. Any other discussion? All in favor? Pass unanimous.

Thank you, sir. Thank you. Seek mental health request to wave pool fees.

So, the Southeast Kansas Mental Health Center of Pleasanton uh would like to request that the city wave fees for approximately nine kids and four staff on reward pool days. Uh, the group rewards the kids for good behaviors by going to a local pool on Thursdays from 1 to 2:30.

I think we should go right away with going to put forth a motion to do so. Um, I'd like to put forth a motion uh for uh SEK mental health request uh to wave the pool fees for uh nine kids for staff. Nine kids for staff. I'll second. It's been moved and seconded. Any discussion? I abstain. All in favor?

Passes with three yes, two extensions. Budget workshop. Do we want to try to have another budget workshop on maybe June 8th, that Monday, 6 to 8? Does that work for everybody?

You said June 8th. Yes.

June 8th from 6 to 8. Okay. Billboards. Um I know that Ally and Emily were going to be here too to talk about those, but um the billboards coming into town and so forth. The last council had discussed a little bit a new logo or point uh change for the design and stuff on those billboards. Um right now I think one's pretty much completely ripped apart and the other one is showing signs of ripping canal too. What would the council like to see happen with those billboards? Um do we want to put out to see how much it would cost to replace that and what design would we like on those if anything different? I know they've got markers on the on them that was given from the state. They're good to do something with them.

Then they'll pull those and then we'll never get them back. So we we need to figure out what we want to do. Those are issued by the state and they're always yours unless they're gone already. But she'll probably give you two more. The state pull them if we don't keep the bill. Oh, yeah. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I didn't hear you. We can't hear you guys up here. Okay. So, we definitely don't want them pulled. We need to figure out something. One of your old citizens does those uh Shannon

Mrick and I already reached out to him back many months ago when you all were talking about it. So he can give you a price by calling and asking too. I will tell you that he went and Freddy went and measured them and they're in terrible shape, the wood itself, and that's what destroys the signs because they're just vinyl. So they would have to have either some kind of very smooth finish put over them. Um, my husband as a master carpenter said that would not be worth it. It would be less expensive to buy new hardboard, something that won't rot and crack like those are. That That's what ruins your signs.

Okay. Thank you. What would the council like to see? I like to get fixed. Yeah. Okay. So, who do we want to send out to look at the signs and see what they need for fixing? And then what design do we want on them to see how much and seeing how much it would cost for replacing the vinyl part?

Portland, I would think. Did you say My Shane

Can he doesn't live here anymore? He's the youngest migrate. He has a degree in plastics and he retired and now that's what he does. That's why he went out and measured it just to see. Okay. If we could get that bid of how much it would cost to us and then we get the sign looked at to see what it would take to fix for the next council meeting. Um, could we also have you all bring in some ideas or set some parameters? maybe have some of the public submit some ideas for design for the for the sign. Okay. So, if Yes, ma'am. We have a design person right here.

Well, we did the vinyl on those things the first goound when I forget Teresa I think Teresa Whitaker and whatnot. Um and then the the one of the for previous councils had the kids at the school do some logos and stuff. Guys, don't do that. We got some stuff that was terrible. And if you're if you're going to do a logo, do a real logo where you can put it on your letter head, your envelopes, all your stuff and everything matches. And we want it we want it professional and um yeah, what whatever. But let's not have the third graders submit something or other. It was terrible. And um so we wanted to do designwise contemplate that get the pricing of what it's going to be for next council me and

I'd like to citizens, you know, bring suggestions to us as to what they would like. And can we open up for um more bids just other than just um you know Yeah. Nelson advertising out of Gerard. I mean I'm not saying we wouldn't we wouldn't get him but I would just like to see other you know different other bids come in as well. So we want So we talking about bids on fixing the signs and bids on the vinyl vinyl stuff. Okay. two separate bids then. Okay. Say Shannon Barbie did

Shannon. Okay. Why did I think Barbie? All right. So, we'll put out for bids on those and see what we get for for that and see what suggestions we get from the citizens as to what design and things they would like to see for that because it does represent the whole the whole city.

Okay. You have before you an ordinance um 2068 to um alter 1-301 of our city codes to put the wording to match state statute for appointments. Uh the wording for that as is found in 15-204 for state statute somewhere. Mayor, can I add something add something to the sign? It's in the same topic. Uh, is there can we have somebody like the council come up come up with somebody that works in public works or something that one of their jobs is like once once a week check all the American flags on the city property to check to see if we're torn that they may be retired or not

to add that to somebody. Yeah. Um, I think we can definitely make sure those are observed, looked at, and done. Definitely. Thank you. It's after the yellow page.

I'll make a motion to amend ordinance number 2068 to match state 15-204. Second to amend ordinance. We need to to we need to approve ordinance. approves. Approve ordinance to match. Okay.

The motion has come forth uh to approve ordinance number 2068 to make our wording for appointments match state statutes. And it's been seconded. Any discussion? All in favor? passes unanimous.

Okay. Public works oversight.

Um public works oversight. I know some question has come up on and off as to whether uh there should be a a head of public works or public works supervisor or um overseer of everyone um with the council on that. Um I that would be extra money from the city or something like that. Um, I also know that as mayor I have superintendent control over the city, but I have been um not the main person overseeing all of the employees directly within that with the city administrator uh with not having a city administrator at this point. How would you all like to see that happen? Um, I have no problem stepping into that without, you know, any extra or that. or would it be the council's pleasure to try and see about hiring somebody to be that um person or do you want to hear from the employees their thoughts on it or what do you want to do? That's just kind of everything in a nutshell of what I've heard from different council members at different points. Well, then if you I mean like do hire someone to oversee and then knock everybody's pay down that is head of that department. So I will I mean I don't think that's fair. public works city employees. Do you have anything to speak into that or anything?

Jenny's trying to be up here. I'm going to put me a name plate right here. There you go. the chair.

I mean, it boils down to we would have another boss to answer to. Ultimately, it's you guys' decision. We can or cannot say yay or nay as far as what you're going to do or not going to do. But how many bosses do we really need? That's what it boils down to. We got you guys, we got him, we got her. Each one of us are department heads. How many bosses do we really have to have? Plus, kind of like what he was saying, if we have one guy here, what's the point in having us as department heads as far as that goes? I mean, and I I think the mayor is the mediator between public works and the city council. So whatever the city council says they can get relate to us through the mayor, not just through the mayor, them to another person, them to us.

My my beliefs on that is is that uh if you need somebody to oversee your head of departments, then you guys don't trust them and they probably shouldn't be head of that department. Any thoughts, comments? I'd say we get through this budget season and then readress it. Okay.

Thank you. um water to the school ball fields. Um

I received I was approached at um from the school. Apparently, RO two has a line running somewhere through by the ball fields there for the school. And of course for rule two to give them a meter, the council would have to give approval for that since it's inside city limits. Uh my question was is why aren't you know we from we from the city running a line over to there and so forth. But I was told I was I told them that I would bring that to the council to find out what your all's desire would be in finding that out. whether you would want to approach and go with um authorizing and giving permission for them just to drop in with rule two, which has a line somewhere in the area over there. Uh or if you wanted to see what it would take for us to run water over to them since they are inside city limits. I wish I know the water meter's done out out at the ball field right now. I mean, just got in last week, but were they wanting the water meter at the school?

The school ball field. So, RLC ball fields has the water meter that was tied in from the rule two because for us to run it, we would have had to run it all the way past the compactor around from 14th Street or something to get water over there. So we tied in and we have a meter from them that was moved from the soccer soccer soccer soccer building. Uh the fielding question is the ball field for the school itself, which is behind the school in the back, which we have a main not that far from there.

Cuz there's a water meter right there behind Sandy Carpenters's house, that's a 2in meter that feeds all of the shelter houses, even the one that if you go past the trash compactor and you go around right there, the water and electric goes underneath the lake to get to that. So, we do have water over there. So, I think we should just play with So, you want to move towards getting the water department to see what it would take to get water to where they're needing it. I mean, they're within the city. I think it should stay water. Yeah. Because if if we go to work, if we go to two, we're going to lose our money. Yeah.

You know, so I would like to see what it's going to cost for us to put the water out there. Okay. We can do that. Because what happens if we wanted you to do that is would the schools decide at that point to go with school two and drop off? No. Yeah. Yeah. I don't see that happen. I don't either, but just putting it out there. Might as well keep it in the city.

All right. So, we'll find out what that would what that would take. pneumatic valves. We have that paper there on the side. And that's to hold our bed. Yes. I make a motion to approve uh all the vows for the 5,000 $543.

This is for what? This is for the water plant. Water. I second the total again uh $5,553. Thank you. Okay, it's been moved and seconded to approve the purchase of the pneumatic valves for the water department to $5,543. Any discussion? All in favor? So moved.

Yes. Okay. Um the other thing we need have is resolution number 475. Um bank signes. We need for both um Farmer State Bank and the vet bank. Uh the vet bank in times past has been able to just use our minutes that have that approved in them. The farmer state bank always wants a resolution passed from the council for the signees and that makes the adjustment change for the city clerk and deputy city clerk and city treasurer as signes on things. So I will need two motions. one for the approval of resolution 475 and then one for the same names to be used for Leette Bank.

I'll make a resolution I mean make a motion to pass resolution number 475 Senator. It's been moved to pass resolution number 475 adjusting the signes on Farmer State Bank. Any discussion? All in favor? So moved. I also make a motion to uh uh for the same names to be considered at Leette Bank.

Second. been moved and seconded for the same names to be approved for Leette Bank also. Any discussion? All in favor? Passes unanimous.

Councilman Kenny, did you have anything else? Councilman Sands. Yeah, I got a couple things. Uh, we're going to start off easy, but uh, can I make a motion to hire maybe a part-time help for the summer? Is that a motion? I can make a motion to hire a part-time help on only the mowing. A second. Should we make a motion to advertise for a position.

Um,

can we fix it? So, do you want to motion to amend that to I make a motion to amend that to state that we are to I want to say yeah for the position advertise an interview for the season. Is that to advertise an interview? Not to hire, just advertise an interview. Yes.

Okay. Okay. It's been motioned to amend the motion for a part-time mower to be advertised and interviewed for.

And I second on the amendment. All those in favor? Okay. Amendment made. Now on for part-time mower advertising and interviewing for all those in favor. So uh also I just want to I mean kind of bring up that I've been getting called out here lately on that it is conflict of interest but I have stepped away from anybody that has brought anything to the council that I have been involved with and I am doing it by the city codes. There's some things that I step away from that I really don't need to uh but I do it because I'm a firefighter. So, I don't want no nobody's saying it's conflict of interest for me for me voting. Uh I would actually call uh at a another meeting there was a council member that said there should be no like third party friend voting or anybody that had a has like a bid and that they cannot be third party and I just want to let everybody know out there in the public that I am doing anything by the city codes. I am stepping away like I should and that's all I have to say.

Thank you, Councilman John.

Oh, I have a few things that I want to bring up. Um like uh was last meeting uh Miss uh Haynes uh should not have uh voted and uh should have recused herself from any of the police department's uh um appointment appointments because of her family's recent negative interactions with the police department, especially when it pertained to uh Kevin Goodram uh reappointment as part-time officer of the city. Um and then uh she had voted um and shouldn't have uh she should have also recused herself from the vote concerning Morgan Watts as court clerk like she did for Morgan's executive session and deputy city clerk appointment vote. since she was too close of a family friend. And then uh I wanted to bring up too with uh something that Alex had uh brought up with before um as far as the uh what's his name with uh uh the lakes and the dogs the

Don George

Don George um one it wasn't just Don George being pushy Um Kimmy Stark pushed hard for the city council to approve the new boat dock at a at a previous meeting and recuse himself for the vote but later said he was for the people. However, he was has a conflict because of his shop. This shows that he has a personal agenda for his shop's potential profits. I have heard from many citizens that Relle is supposed to be for the people and not a yes person. However, anyone in attendance viewing the meeting online last week or who are part of the fire department knows about possible secret meetings between herself, Kenny, and Sandy. That clearly shows that there are have their own personal agendas with their alliance. This also confirms that they are not for the people. You can see the looks and gestures between them at council meetings and the collaborations that previous on previous statements. Our citizens are not stupid and they can see this. They do not want those three running the council as they have been. I would like to make it clear to everyone in this room and the public that I am the one who made the appointment to reappoint Becky as city administrator, Jaclyn Petta as city attorney. I also was the one who seconded the motion to reappoint Tristan Snyder as chief. I would have been the

one to motion it, but Alex beat me to the punch for that one. There are budgetary concerns regarding those positions, and I completely agree with that. But I do not agree with the way others handle the situation concerning those appointments. Again, there are bud budgetary concerns with these positions, but for the council as a whole to agree to all the mayoral appointments prior to the meeting and then for Stark, Relle Strechiser, and Sandy Heights to go against the prior consensus of the council in open session was a slap in the face to not only myself, but also the citizens, the mayor, Alex Wills, Becky Hegals, Jacqueline Fleta, and Tristan Snder. I have been holding my tongue on a lot of this because I believe that the people of Pleasanton need to know what is going on. So, here I am stating it. Everyone talks about how everything should be transparent, but with secret meetings and underhand measures of people on the council, the people of Pleasant aren't getting what they deserve. And there has been an immediate lack of transparency from from especially three council members that preach about transparency. but are simultaneously hiding the most. And I have nothing to say. Nothing further to say,

Councilwoman Rochelle. Um yeah, I need excessive session with Candy, please, for um job uh job performance um for five minutes, please. Executive session for non-elected personnel for job performance. for how many? Five minutes. Five minutes.

Is there a second? Second. All in favor? Any oppose? I post whatever. We're already at the end basically.

We'll be back at 9:37. Sour sour cream. That's all it is. I just love Christ. All three of them look on their faces. was practically made your teeth once you made that motion.

They all come from cookies. That's where you get those cups. I'm surprised nobody's brought out tickets again about the street sign about what the impromptu street sign of moral the homemade street sign. If you if you get a chance the they they made a impromptu street sign put on the made their own cuz there's no sign there. Hasn't been a sign there for for three years in Laurel. Yeah. Petty corner. Ketty Corner from what? It's made of kett.

It's made out of wood and it's got like two wooden blades on the top. I mean, you got to hand it to him. He's he was really resourceful. He's been really working on that property. They've been really working on that property. sign. He's done a whole bunch of landscaping, but there's never been a sign there. We need more citizens like that that actually care about their property, you know.

Well, we haven't had a stop sign where we were supposed to stop sign since I was a little kid and we say nothing about it. your first not very long.

No, it doesn't. Who are you from? Yeah. What's your name? R.J. Nice to meet you. You here to arrest me, are you? No. Good. I've been a good boy. No. I was going to keep my mouth shut, but yeah. Tristan got my application to come here, but I knew city council last night, so I stopped on my way home. So you could be That's a trick.

Wow. Long story. Well, no, not every day. I only work part time. Okay. So, I only work six, eight nights a month. So, but I actually was at a different agency down there originally. Well, I'm still there part time, too. But I started out there because I'd been friends with that chief for about 15 years. He needed parttime guys. I own my electrical company and so that was what keeps me busy most of the time. He's like, "Well, I need just a couple nights a month for myself. That's all I want to work." 2 hours. Uh it's about an hour and 15,

but I went to school with Tristan and so him and I have been talking for the last several months. I'm here. Yeah, I graduated in 06, but I was only here for one year. Oh, okay. I was going to say you don't work here, right? Not yet. Tristan Tristan's got my application. He's just got it. Not this. Hey, you know where you get your eyes from? You know you know where you get your eyes from. I've been following along online for the last couple weeks to see what I'm getting myself into.

Can you hear me? I did not. Where now? Okay. I was like, "Oh, so They read the storms are raining out.

I know. I'm old and tired. My bedtime's like 7:30.

I'll sit at home and read my book. No. Steven.

Okay. Executive session ended. Action taken. Resuming normal meeting. Anything else? Hey, Morgan, are you guys are you going to do water? Yes. really made a plan for that yet. But yes, I just have people ask me if we are still going to do our aerobics and I I'm hope so, but I haven't asked them. We are I'm going to put some of my guards to work as Okay. So, yeah, they did it last year and they were really good. I've heard a lot of compliments and stuff, so I um just was wondering to make sure.

Okay. Thanks. That's all I got. And I'll make a motion for adjournment. Been moved to adjurnn. Is there a second? Second. All in favor?