City Council - workshop

We'd like to welcome everyone out to our City Council work session on this Monday, June 22nd, 2026. And Scott, come forward.

We were going to have our victim advocate do a report, but she is not able to make it today. She told us that in order to meet her requirement for the grant that she will send you an email with her report. So you can look forward to that. What my understanding is, is we have individuals that have a little bit of a time crunch for city council meetings, so we wanted to get as much done in the work session as we can. What I would recommend is we do all the staff business. In fact, if council's comfortable, we could do our council business as well. And then we'll review the agenda. So we'll go through the agenda. We'll introduce the items. We have two public hearings and five action items. We'll start with the action items because the public hearings we'll need to redo anyway. But the action items, we can probably get most of the bulk of the discussion and answer questions so that when we get into the meeting, we can...

just ask if there's any further questions and then move forward on that so i'll turn it back to you mayor and we can start with the department reports great uh neil director winterton sorry and we're giving him three minutes right okay all right i think we come in short last

I just wanted to report on what a great Father's Day some of our guys had on Sunday morning, fixing a water leak on Canyon Road. Pretty big league, made a pretty big mess. They were there until about 2 o'clock in the afternoon. Just dedicated guys that showed up, did the work, went home dirty, and then got to their activities. Common occurrence, but we called out the streets department to come, street sweep even, and they're on-call guys. They willingly showed up and did a great job there. We've got a few CIP projects underway. All of the water mains under those CIP projects have been replaced. The step-by-step process, if I might just say, is we replace the water main itself. We've got to keep the old one in service because people need water. So we lay a new one. We pressure test it. We bacteria test it, make sure that it's good. We double check that. Then we come back and do the services and tie over each service. Then once we get that portion complete, if all those other utilities are complete, then we're able to pull the road up. and then put a new road down. And that's the case with our current CIP projects. There was one road that got laid last week with new asphalt. Looks good so far. 450 south up off of Locust. And so almost all the water lines are fully complete, like I said. And then from there, it's a downhill. slope to get to finish paving. So we're really glad for that. And of course, the parking lots open. We're looking at some more things related to the parking lot lights up there to see what we can do. and there's a never ending supply of needs moving forward and we're already looking at future projects as well. So that's the report I have on those projects. On your agenda tonight is the agreement with Utah County through MAG. So MAG sends the money through Utah County to get to us for the 600 West Center Street project. In a previous meeting, council asked that Scott and I went and met with affected property owners. We have done that. We feel like the next step is to sign the agreement, get an engineer on board and start getting into the details of that project. So if you have any questions about that agreement, happy to answer those now or even later, but just wanted to give you a heads up that that is on the agenda tonight. And so. What's the effective timeline on that if everything rolls into place? That's a loaded question. Timeline for construction, timeline for getting design done or right-of-way work.

I would say start of the project.

Start of construction, I would say best case scenario from today would be three years.

Okay.

It involves some railroad right of way, and that process is extensive, and it also includes just design from the mirror concept plan that we have thus far. We need to get into the details, hire an engineer, and move forward with that.

Question, on the affected landowners, is that a payment that is when the project starts or how does that start for them?

We'll work through those right-of-way negotiations. As soon as we sign the agreement and we can access the funds, we'll do what is in the best interest of the project and the property owner and what we can negotiate.

Kay, will you just let us know if there's major pushback and... We don't, I don't.

Initial feedback has been not push back and I will say not enthusiasm but very. Willing. Positive and willing negotiations to move forward. Anything more than that I'd probably want to do in a closed session. Okay. Agreed.

So there's been a lot of construction road work going on in my area, multiple streets and around. And I had a park at the top of the street. I live at the bottom. And they had blocked it off. And the workers have been great. So I'm giving you some feedback. He offered to help me carry my groceries down. And luckily, they let me back in. But he offered and was waiting. Awesome. So they've been very just helpful and helpful. Trying to allow people to come through as much as possible. I don't I think it was a public works I think it was the contract of it, but Very but I know they would have done the same but just very helpful very accommodating You know when it's you're getting things done like right in front your house multiple streets. So anyway, very very professional and very helpful and

Awesome, I'll pass that along. A full water line and street reconstruction is a major inconvenience. I mean, you're right in front of your front area and there's multiple steps that have to take place with dirt, we even had a secondary water leak that was obviously unplanned that caused some delays and that's just when you pivot with the project but it saturated the ground and then that made it real mushy and we had to take some extra precautions for that and so the residents I'm sure appreciate that portion done. There's a few more streets to go and then it'll be a nice new road surface for that area.

Thank you.

Thank you. Chief Brown.

Hello, Mayor and Council.

I'm glad Strawberry Day is over, but it was eight days of all hands on deck and the week went well. Right now we're just trying to... I guess critique everything. I think the parade is the biggest thing that we'll need to look at.

Because of kids running out?

Yes.

Really? It's not getting better?

No. Big equipment, and the parents let them. The parents are out there competing for the Tootsie Roll, three feet away from a loader, right? They don't stay back, and we just didn't... We needed more people to ride e-bikes up and down the route and stuff like that.

Did you have the cadets this year helping? Yes. Okay.

They're mainly helping with pedestrian and foot track rather than following the route. We usually have our e-bikes out there, but we didn't have as many officers available. But that's the biggest concern in my observations from that. But the roadie went well. The carnival went well. The run, a couple of runs, the little kiddie parade and the other activities we did. And so the officers did well. Long days. It's pretty warm out there with their vests on and stuff like that. But it was great. Enjoyed it. Enjoyed it a lot more at 11 p.m. on Saturday.

I'm curious to see what your coin looks like next year.

We all are.

Sorry, Chief.

Yeah.

So any questions for us?

Just one thing. And I would love to revisit this. I know I've talked about this a little bit, but there were some very serious altercations about seating locations. There was a very bad moment, and I think that what we- You're talking along the parade route, yeah. I think that what we legislated was not successful. I would love to revisit it. I think there's a way to fix that, but I have had numerous accounts of almost to the point of serious fights about people throwing chairs into the street.

Was it reported?

It was not reported.

I saw a post about it, about one individual, and thought to myself, this man is not well.

Okay, so that was a different man.

Well, I don't, I mean, yeah, we can compare notes, I guess, but I think maybe people on e-bikes or more.

Okay, so there were some altercations.

You had some significant.

Significant.

See what the issue is. Because from other people's perspective, it seemed to work pretty good. We didn't have people putting stuff out until the day that they were allowed to put stuff out.

I got more accolades of support than issues, but there was some issues.

Okay, there were some very serious issues in that now you have this little teeny window to set up, and you have now a turf war, and the turf war then escalated at 10 a.m. Men were throwing women's chairs and blankets onto the street. and swear words and very physical in your face. Not just Diana's swear word. No, and luckily I was at the beginning of the parade. So I think there is a solution and I think we just need to revisit it because what we did was we started a turf war.

And so... Well, it sounds like this guy needs to be reported, though, right?

He was not well. The one that I saw was not well.

So the one that was sitting on the block where my kids witnessed this, this guy was not on Facebook. This guy was just sitting. He had come in and... set up his spot, and he didn't care. He said if people are not sitting in those chairs, I'm throwing them onto the street.

Well, I mean, and here's the thing, and there's a number of different scenarios. I mean, I've seen people get there early and have a seat, and then the late arrivals, I don't think there's any problem in going out between you and the fog line and sitting right in front of it as if you weren't even there. Correct. And that's what happened. And then the words get exchanged in front of all the little kiddos, mind you. Yes. These are the adults acting like the kids. And so usually, like I say, you've got an officer that's at every intersection on there. The best thing to do rather than have a brawl

Okay.

Somebody go down there, make a call. If we're not there, obviously we can't do anything about it. But, yeah, we need to address that. And somebody needs to be removed.

And I think that there's a solution. One thing is I would love to see us go maybe on 6 West, continue it to Cook Park.

Changing the route.

Actually give more land so that we can maybe accommodate it. Because there were some places along the parade route where it was literally five, six people deep, eight people deep, two families, three families deep.

That's certainly what we're doing now is starting to gather that. So I'm going to make a note that says we need to have that as part of our discussions. We get ready to implement our plans of action and people disbursement in these areas. So we'll do that.

And my family was there at the appropriate time to set up, and it was not pretty.

Are you talking 3 o'clock on Friday? Yes. Okay, so when it became okay, that's when we had the turf war was 3 o'clock?

No, the turf, okay, so that's when it started getting a little interesting, but the real serious, serious stuff started happening at 10 a.m. When someone perceived that nobody was sitting there. Yes. On parade day? Yes.

So would that have been different if we would have had no restriction on the three o'clock?

No. But what happened is that now we've said if you're not sitting in that spot.

We didn't say that.

No, no, no. But there's this feeling of now there is this shortened time frame. And it's now it's just whoever is you know who's ever sitting there.

So I'll put this on a work session agenda, and let's talk about it. And obviously, there's different feedback on how successful or not that it was. And we'll have the discussion. It's up to council whether you want to do this or not. I mean, yeah.

I think we need to look at it. And maybe, I mean, we tried it one year.

Yeah.

And I've heard of some very serious situations.

Well, I will tell you this. The world we live in today is not the way it was 10 years ago. People are not nice. And so that's the world we live in, which is why we are trying to supplement our numbers because it's not the same world and it's not the same respect. There's a lot of lack of it. And we will deal with that and we'll talk about that. Thanks, Chief. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Megan.

How about you're tired?

Yeah, I am tired today. We all are. That's all of us. It was a good week, though. Pickleball tournament went well. Actually had to expand the number of teams to 10 per division. And we're just short one or two teams of being full for the tournament. So that was good. 70 teams in the volleyball tournament. And then Huck Finn and Princess Party Baby Contest all those things went really well. So we felt like we didn't we didn't have people fighting over spots that are at our program. So we were we were excited about that.

So really. I thought Scott and Sid would be wearing their medals. I totally forgot.

Should be wearing those medals. I forgot too but I have so many of them.

It's hard to rummage through and find it. If we must. All right.

So yeah, successful week from the rec side. The pool day, the free swim day, counting people again in and out just to keep track of number of people at the pool. So that's a good problem for us to have.

How many were over capacity?

Yes, for the first couple of hours, as the day went on, we were not at capacity. But yes, first couple hours were at capacity. And then, yeah, we're just moving forward. I don't think I reported on our berserker blitz that we had. It's been probably about a month ago. We doubled our numbers. We had about 100 participants this year, so doubled those numbers, which was exciting. And we've seen a lot of rentals also of the all-terrain wheelchairs. That has picked up, and I think the word's finally gotten out there. So that's been exciting to see people out adventuring in places they normally wouldn't be able to be.

Do you know where they're going with the wheelchairs? Are they going foothills, just on the road? Where are they going?

So far, mostly close by. We've asked them to tag us, and we just haven't gotten really good success on getting tags so we can see where they're at. I do know that we had a rental not last week but the week before that was for Trek. So somebody that wanted to participate in Trek that couldn't normally, so they rented it for the full week and was able to go on Trek.

That's cool.

Yeah. Yeah, so cool opportunities there. And then, yeah, just looking forward to summer and all the things that are happening. Hopefully it slows down for just maybe a minute or two.

And then... Did you say the word rent for those? Is that just checked out? Rent is not... Is that the right word? Check it out?

Rent is not the right word. Check out, I guess, maybe is a better word. I'm glad. They do pay the deposit, just obviously, and then the deposit's refunded.

As long as there's no issues with the chair. Yeah. That's awesome.

It comes back all in one piece and everything, so... So we'll continue to try to get the word out on that and then move forward on anything else. Any questions for me in the rec department?

The only question I've got for you is there was the question about the closing an hour earlier, some feedback. Any update on that?

Yes. Let me actually, I got some numbers. Let me grab those numbers for you real fast. All right, so it's a little hard for us to really determine, and if I'm being completely frank, our registration system and data is a little hard for us to navigate.

Is that because of the system that you, just the software system?

Yep, yeah. And so we do have data. I think we could have better data if we had a different software system.

Is there a better system or better software system?

Sure is, but we're looking at probably a 25 to $35,000 increase in costs for that. Annually? Yep, yep. We pay $5,000 a year right now for our software.

But do you think it would be worth the investment if it gave you more accurate feedback and able to run the system more effectively?

I mean, I'd have to really analyze that. I'm not sure it's worth $25,000, to be honest. If there was something out there, which we looked at actually a company just a couple months ago that was not quite as much. My experience with software in working at multiple locations is not one software has figured out how to build every module, because every rec center is just different enough. that you kind of have to pick your modules that you want for the software. And so you can be cheaper but then you're probably giving up something that another is doing well. So it's it's it's kind of a balancing act of finding something that fits kind of all your pieces.

But Megan I probably see this maybe I see this maybe a little a little differently. The problem that I think we have I'm not sure we can solve. I mean I guess we could in some way but is They badge in, but they don't badge out.

Correct.

So, you know, if they badged in and badged out, you could say, all right, the delta is X. Yeah.

Specific talking to the pool conversation.

Right. But we're not going to be able to get this data because we don't. We don't get that. We don't know how many people are there. We don't collect it in the system. We gotta be data, you know, if we wanna do this, we gotta be data-driven on the inside. Ship everybody. Yeah, that's one way. So, I don't know. Give us your rough swag. This is what we got, right?

So here's what we can tell you what we've got. So, 6 to 8 p.m. So if we're looking, right now we're closing at 7. Last year closed at 8. Um, number average evening attendance for those two hours. So again, this is them scanning or paying a day pass is 21.7 guests.

Uh, if we're looking at seven, but there may be 200 in there at the time.

Correct, because they could have stayed since 5.

Yeah, they could have come at 5.59.

Or they could have come at 3 and been there all night long. Correct, yeah. So that's why it's really kind of hard. The 7 to 8 p.m. average attendance of those that we know that are checking in and entering in at that time is 5.7. Now, if we're looking kind of more umbrella perspective, Like 6 to 8 p.m. is about 716 people that are kind of coming during that time frame. Again, checking in or scanning. 7 to 8 is 119. Our busiest hours are close to the 1,000, over 1,000.

This would be a really good analytic.

Data point.

How many people left at 7 o'clock or are leaving at 7 o'clock?

Couldn't tell you that. All right.

Other than just visual.

Unless we're counting. But maybe we can have your staff just say. The staff can get a clicker. Yeah. Or, I mean, it doesn't need to be. I mean, it could be a clicker. It's fine. But, you know, 30 people at 7 o'clock. Sure. 100 people at 7 o'clock.

Yeah.

Just kind of give us that sense of idea. I think that would allow us to.

And I agree. I think if somehow we could calculate or just. even just have a perspective of a general number of who's leaving at seven. Now, and you know, as a couple of conversations we've had in looking at, you know, you get, if you have somebody that works till five and they're not home till 5.30 and then they have dinner, by the time you get there, you're pretty close to that six, 6.15, doesn't leave you a ton of time. Now, is that a small percentage of people or is that almost everybody?

We don't know. And maybe, I mean, I can swing by at seven o'clock a couple nights this next week.

Yeah.

Well, with the understanding, we close at 7 now. Well, I know, but I would swing by like at 10 to 7 or something. What you're talking about is last year's numbers, right?

Yes, these are last year's numbers.

Oh.

Because we're analyzing what's happening last year to kind of maybe give us an idea of what we're impacting for this year.

Yeah.

So 6 o'clock might be a good time to stop by this year to see how many people are leaving, but that may not really give us a good perspective because we're closing early right now.

Yeah.

Numbers that we're also tracking that we'll have a better idea closer to the end of the summer is our rental increase. Because part of this would be that now we used to do one hour rentals or two hour rentals. Now we're, yep. One hour no longer exists and we're doing two hours and forcing them that that has to start right when we close. So we don't have staff staying for an hour to wait for a rental to start. And that also being said, a rental would most likely, you're not going to rent an entire pool and only be there for an hour. By the time you get in and everybody gets there, food, whatever, you're probably needing at least a two-hour time frame to rent. So part of our fee schedule change back whenever that was, was our rental costs or our rental fees have gone up also. And then they're also two and three hour blocks. Now we won't be comparing apples to apples because last year had one hour, but we could look at the total revenue brought in for rentals, total revenue for here and analyze, are we seeing an increase in that or a decrease?

Are you getting complaints from the public about closing early?

So, so far, this is what I have. Nobody has contacted me directly by phone or email. Sean has had one email. And then I think we've had one Facebook post or whatever.

But nothing directly. Okay. That's good.

So I would say it's lower than what I thought it would have been at this point. but we'll just continue to analyze that. So I think at the end of the summer, we'll also be able to show, I mean, we know right now that by closing an hour early, every day an hour is $425 worth of staff that we're saving, because they don't have to have as much staff when a rental happens, because we're not opening, like some of that stuff is not completely open or fully open.

Scott?

Yeah.

Do you have the comment?

Well, I was just going to say right now the data set's incomplete. I think the best thing will be at the end of this year.

Yeah.

We'll present the data to you, and then we can make a decision whether we want to change that or not.

Yeah.

For the time being, we're just planning on closing at 7.

Have you monitored that Facebook post, the one post that was there? Have we gone back to look to see if there was a ton of chatter or was it just one person that said something?

It was a couple people. I think the big thing with that is they just didn't know. I think they were able to get the word out there about why we were doing this and just give them a heads up. I think they were just caught off guard because this is how it's been for literally 30 years. And they just weren't aware. So I think that was just a matter of public relations. And I think once people understand and then they can assess their schedule, then they're fine.

Yeah, and so we may see less. I mean, it has been on the website since spring, early spring, because as soon as we knew what that looked like, so we've had that on there. But I do agree that we probably could have figured out some social media, some things like that that we could have improved on. That's the other kind of difficult thing, too, is unless you buy a pass, there's no way we can communicate to you by email if you buy a pass. But if you're just doing a day pass, or if you're just, there's no way for us to, because obviously that would be the best way is to send out a mass email to anybody that would impact, but we don't necessarily have all of those. But we can just continue to keep an eye on that and then obviously make adjustments as we need to. Okay, any other questions for me? Okay, we'll keep working on that data and keep some good information at the end of the summer and then we can analyze that and see what we want to do.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

HR.

Just a quick word of thanks. There's a ton of effort that goes into Strawberry Days, a lot of it from the committee, but our employees are very busy. I don't think there's any employees or any department that isn't touched there. I was able to participate in a lot of the events and see them in action, and it's great to see our employees doing that service. So big thanks to everyone. I know Fire did their breakfast. They helped with the run. There was even a time when they were heroically riding the steers, if you saw that on the challenge coin. Police, so many events they do with the rodeo, the parade, the run. I ran the run. It was awesome. I don't know if it happened. There are unconfirmed reports of some of the police officers at the carnival riding the merry-go-round. That was also on the coin. So I'm sure we're going to see an interesting coin next year. So many events with the rec, the library, public works. I mean, they were doing the golf tournament. They got called out in the middle of that. So work doesn't stop while that's going on. Parks, Huck Finn Day, so many events. So yeah, just a big thank you to all of our employees that helped out with that. And then one other thing to update you on, I'll just do right now. It's on the agenda for one of the action items, 10C. Utah Retirement Systems is increasing their rates effective July 1, and this is gonna be the employee portion. Cities and organizations have an opportunity regarding the public safety rates to pick up that added cost rather than the employee funding that. And that has been the case of what we do, what we have done the last number of times. So currently that rate is 4.73% for the public safety and the firefighter funds of tier two employees. URS is increasing that this next year by 1.25% to 5.98%. So staff recommendation is that similar to previous increases, Pleasant Grove picks up that increase for our employees. It's a recruiting, it's a retention tool for our public safety. So that's our increase. Any questions on that or anything else? Council?

I appreciate it. That's a great show and I think a good employee morale culture move.

Yep.

Thank you. All right. Thank you. Oh Yeah, oh Sure Yeah, also one of the public hearings and we'll still have to open that up 9a We put in your packet this changed just a few years ago the legislator made a change that whenever you're appointed officials So primarily our directors, but a couple of other positions like city engineer, treasurer, there's a couple other officials that are appointed. The legislation change was that whenever there's a pay increase proposed for those individuals, it needs to be noticed and it needs to have a public hearing attached. So you'll find in your packet an agenda item proposing to modify all of our appointed officials pay for this increase with the budget. It includes a COLA increase of 2.4% as well as a merit increase of up to 2.35%. So that would be together 4.75%. So that is our recommendation as well. Any questions?

Thank you.

All right, thanks.

Chief Engelman. Fire.

Mayor, council, interesting week, fun week. Started off breakfast, went good. I mean, kept the lines down pretty good. I think we kind of worked well with the way it kind of panned out. We were able to, the association after that was able to donate some money to Chad, one of our part-time guys, who his son was killed in that accident a few weeks ago up in Idaho. So he was super appreciative of that. It was kind of a good thing that the guys did. They like to, you know, do stuff like that. So that worked out real well for us. Starboard A is just super busy. I mean, we were not just called volume wise, but everything else just kind of got picked up. The guys kept up on it. They're able to keep going. You know, we did that at the run, and I don't know who designed the coin. I don't know where that came from. I'll have to wait and see what happens next year, but I'll let the association figure that one out and go on that and see where we end up. Way back, baby. Yeah, that's what you get. You know, you do something like that, just kind of what it is. So it'll be fun. Hopefully it'll be a fun little, you know, thing we get going for the next little bit. But we're getting that going. We did have a little front of the station. We started last year. we bring chalk out and as people walk into the carnival, they draw on the pad of the station. And so that we had all kinds of strawberries and all kinds of stuff in the front of the pad. So much fun. Yeah, and also Ruiz gave us like a half a pallet of, chalk, our chalk. And so kids would draw stuff. We would give them a little prize, if you know. I offered a few cases of Dr. Pepper to a few people. But we mostly gave chalk out to these kids. It was kind of fun to watch that and kind of watch the people do that. But it was a good day. The race went real well. Just super busy. Just keep going between. I know last time we talked, I had two of our guys had left. One had decided to stay. He's staying with us, and he wants to fight this out and make it a good play, so he's staying here. So I'm only down one guy right now, which is good. Good kid. I love him. I think he made the right choice. Other than that, everything's going good. It's kind of a long week, a lot of room for control, a lot of damage control. I think we'll get around this and go on from here. There's a lot was happening, a lot was said, a lot of things that I caught wind of that I wasn't aware of and not part of. But I think we'll jump from here and move forward and keep going. So I love the place. We have some great men and women that work for us. I think I want to make this place great in what it is. And I've talked to a lot of them this last couple of weeks, so I don't have any qualms of moving on. keeping the way we are.

Thanks, Chief. Any questions for Chief?

No, thanks, Chief. Thank you for the barbecue. That was a fantastic event. Oh, yeah, and the barbecue, too, yeah.

It's kind of fun. We bring a lot of what retired guys are left to come back here. I shouldn't say that out loud, but we can know what happens. But they come back here and visit. It's a real fun form to come down and meet with them, meet all the new guys.

You gave me a chance to sit with some of your team and chat with them. Yeah. Just an excellent event. Thank you.

It's kind of a fun little deal. It's kind of a good little get-together afterwards. Almost wrap it up that day and you know, it's proper day. So, okay.

Awesome. Thank you.

Thanks Director Cardenas Hope everyone's enjoying a fantastic World Cup where the US is doing amazing, right?

Watch the game Pardon? Are you talking about the World Cup? Yeah, yeah, the World Cup. I watched a couple.

Great games.

I actually haven't missed one game.

You and I, you and I. I keep track of every single thing.

Sometimes it's 2 a.m., but I have not missed a game.

There you go. Anyway, so Strawberry was a fantastic time, but I want to... Say some kudos for my building department the work really hard with the strawberry committee for the rodeo to happen there were. Like I say they were superstars since they have to be there Saturday mornings afternoons and they did everything possible for that great event to happen so kudos to the building department. The customer service was top of the line like I say they were there to assist at any time so. Let me see. That's what I have for the report. And in regards to my item, I have a public hearing later. It's a simple public hearing, but there's no simple public hearings, right? Sometimes they're... Anyway, so it's the addition of a new use. The use is... pet grooming, animal grooming. Recently, probably, I'm gonna say, yeah, it was last year, we actually allowed veterinarian services, which is a more intense use already in the zone. This one is less intense. This is animal grooming, so there's no veterinarian uses, but still it requires to be added to the list of permitted uses to the zone. So it's going to be animal grooming. It's not as intense as veterinarian uses, and we'll discuss a little bit more exactly the zone where we'll be adding it. That's what I have, Mayor and Council.

Great. Any questions?

Is that 9B, Dave? Yes. Appreciate it.

Denise, do you have anything?

So one of the action items is to adopt an interim budget. And so that time frame will go away.

Yeah, because we don't have the property tax statement. If we talk budget and work session, then we have to read our property tax statement.

And I know she wants to read that. Okay. All right. Denise thank you for the wonderful comments there.

Okay.

Wendy do you have anything. Tina do you have anything. Okay. Oh okay.

Yeah. He took a vacation.

Yeah right. This is weird.

The item 10E is a resolution to authorize the mayor to sign an agreement between Mountain Land Association of Governments and Pleasant Grove City for congregate meals and services for fiscal year 2027. This is an annual agreement that we sign each year with Mountain Land Association of Governments in order to fund our senior citizen center meals on wheels. There are some slight changes from last year's but they're mostly in increased duties of reporting and record keeping. I've checked with Dion, he's aware of them and he's implemented a plan to make sure we're compliant. The other small change is that volunteers used to get a free meal and now if you're, no one can have a free meal if you're 60 or under 60 regardless of if you're volunteering.

Why is that?

I'm sure it's just funding, you know?

Oh, like the funding?

Yeah, MAG won't pay for them to have a meal anymore.

There's something like three, it was close to 300 people on the wait list, so that's probably one.

Oh, to get on it, to be.

Yeah, they want to make sure that the people that the money's designated for are actually getting the food and not a volunteer that's younger. Okay. So that's it. Any questions?

No, it was a wonderful program. It was awesome to go out and knock doors. So, Ed, do you have anything? Sierra? Okay, we'll just go right to council and that way we can, unless you want to do. Yeah, nevermind, we'll have Scott go first, then we'll come up here. I saw that look in your eye, Scott, so there you go. I hear it forgetting me. Yeah.

No, this is mostly calendaring, so we have a ribbon cutting this Saturday for Sub-Zero Ice Cream. They have located next to Panda Express. That's going to be at 2 o'clock. I'll send you an appointment for that so you have it for your calendar. On July 4th, we are doing our America 250 celebration, which has been deemed red, white, and boom. So the schedule of events for that day is starting at 6 o'clock. This will be at Cook Family Park. We will have food trucks and in essence the party's gonna start at 6.30 we have a band called the Trash Pandas, don't know much about them. And then at 8.30 we have another band called Drive, Drive the Country Band. And then at 10 o'clock p.m. we'll have the fireworks show. So that's what will be on tap for the 4th of July.

And have we kind of put out on social media why we're moving it to Cook Park so people understand? Because it's been at Discovery for so many years. I just want to make sure. Again, it's kind of similar to the pool situation. I think if we tell them why, because people are starting to ask, why is it being moved? Because they've enjoyed from their front porch, like all these things for years. I think if we explain what's happening, it goes over a lot better than if there's no explanation and then surprise, here's where it's at. Yeah.

So we'll put something out that specifically with an understanding.

It's really because so Diana doesn't go save her spot at Discovery Park and that's why we're moving it.

Too soon.

And maybe maybe just for the record I mean it is space.

It is. It's parking and space, particularly if we're going to have vans and stuff there.

And that makes total sense. We just need to spread the word about it.

I just wanted to make sure if anyone was listening or recorded.

So, no, we'll make that clear and put that out.

Oh, what's that?

Oh, sure. A lot more homes that discovered.

You'll send us that schedule, right? Yes.

Yeah. Okay.

And so I'll put that on your calendar. So you have that for your calendar. July 8th. is the ribbon cutting on the new hotel in town. So if you're not aware this is a double branded hotel. So it's a true Hilton and a home two suites which is at least the developer told us might be the first in the state. Yeah. So half the hotel is a true Hilton and the other half is a home two suites. So still under the Hilton brand but two different concepts on what they have. July 7th would be our next council meeting. Right now we don't have any agenda items. And there's a possibility we will cancel that meeting. So unless you really, really want to meet, we can do that. Part of this is I'm going to be out of town. I am leaving June 30. And I'll be gone for a couple of weeks. And so we'll make the decision on June 29 on council meeting for July 7 in case there's some agenda items that we need to have. If we don't have any agenda items, then we'll probably just cancel the meeting. Okay, any questions? That's all I have.

I hope you have fun at the University of Utah football camp during that time.

Yeah, they invited me to the football camp. They need somebody that knows something about football there to help teach others.

Okay, we have a few minutes. Sid, do you have anything?

Yeah, so I want to revisit, and this is probably a work session. We can talk about the parade route along with it. is the float situation, because we're getting complaints still about the float. However, I think there's a better solution than spending $40,000 on a float. And I was actually talking to your son, Tina Mike, who suggested and said other companies, like Splash Summit is a good example, that they get a flatbed trailer, they invest one, it's about $5,500, and they decorate the trailer. And after they decorate it, you can't tell if it's the, Chassis and I mean because we've had issues with the chassis in the past great.

Yeah Well a lot of money to fix I've got Well, we have something in works for like that the only feedback I got back and then and we'll have to I'll take anyone's help on this is that I was told that Some parades don't accept that they don't accept it as something to be towed behind a truck I don't and I have no idea if this is true or not right, but I At least for our parade, we could have a nice float for the royalty to be on.

Because the other issue is I saw them in the back of the truck, and I think it's a safety issue for them to stand the entire time with nothing to hang on to. And they can't sit down because of their dresses. It's going to get their dresses dirty. And so when I saw that picture, it just was like, okay, they don't have anything to hang on to. And it's different than us. I think riding around a circle in the rodeo, we're not going to hold on for dear life like 10 seconds.

You've got dirt to land on. Yeah. Yeah.

they have the entire parade route, so I think it's a safety issue, but I don't think that we need to spend $40,000 on a float. I think in the past with the chassis, that's a major issue. You know, breaking and then we're spending, it was $25,000 to fix it, so it's a big expense. If a business can partner with us on helping with the cost of the float, if we have creative people in our community who have already offered, I've gotten a couple messages, they want to help put a float together, and we would still have a budget for it, but it wouldn't be $40,000. It could be $10,000 to $15,000, and I think we can still make a nice float for the royalty, but without that cost, because I think that is a lot of money. And so if we can make it work, I'd like to find a solution for them. I think we need to talk about it soon.

I just did a quick search, Mayor. I thought, well, what does days of 47 say? If we can pass days of 47, days of 47 allows trailer floats.

Okay, that's the big one.

But the other ones don't?

No, according to AI, everyone accepts trailer floats, including days of 47.

Tina, maybe you can help me here because Vivian probably, and this is only what I've heard, is that some of the girls can't make a lot of the other other parades. And so they were focusing down to maybe ours and a few others. But again, if we could do this trailer thing, again, I've had businesses reach out after back-to-back years now that have offered to help. And so, anyway.

Well, I think it was Kim. When she came, Kim Wilson, when she came and asked for increased funding to start the teen program, she was willing to give up the money for the float to invest it in the teen program with the idea. And one of the things she presented to the council was the girls didn't want to be in a parade every single Saturday of the summer. And so she was paring the appearances down in parades to simply ours and Lyndon.

And Tina, you're spot on. You're spot on. Yeah. What's happening though is there's individuals that are spreading vicious lies and rumors. Welcome to city politics. The council specifically has disallowed us to fund floats. We didn't fund the floats, which just isn't true. So we're trying to.

That's frustrating. But just so you know, everybody that has asked me, I've said that was a decision that the program director made when she was asking for increased funding. That's what I tell them. And the reason why. Yeah. So if the council wants to revisit doing something so that we can have floats for our two parades that we're in, then that's up to you.

I think, well, I'll talk offline. I think we have a solution for that.

I do for safety and appearance. Yeah.

And you know what, I would love for if we did get a flatbed and I would hope that the girls and their families and whoever else wanted to volunteer to decorate it would come forward. I think it would be awesome.

Because we should give them a budget. I mean, they'd still have material. I mean, it was $10,000, $15,000. But hiring out the $40,000, I don't know if that makes sense for the two prids, you know? So I think we can make it work.

I think we have the knowledge here to make it happen.

But but again I think it's something we're gonna have to budget for and talk about sooner than later because we'd have to get a committee to What a group of people whoever it is volunteers businesses because we kind of forgot about it Oh, I did it because it wasn't got it didn't get brought up because the funds were allocated to other places And so then we didn't talk about it.

I don't think something we can pull together in a month next year I would suggest maybe me the mayor and we get Kim involved. Yeah, we talked through some of those solutions. I And I agree. We do it sooner rather than later.

Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. That's all.

Anything else? Council Member Anderson.

I'm just so grateful to live in this great town. I just, you know, you see 6 a.m., 10 p.m., park sky's out, empty and trash. I mean, it's just, it's all the little things that... I just am very, very grateful for the staff and the amount of time and effort they put in. I know call volume is up. But you sit back at some of the events, like Saturday night at the rodeo, you just sit back and you're like, wow, this is a great, great thing.

I agree.

Council Member Phillips.

Yeah, just echo the same. I mean, my first week at Strawberry Days as a member of city council and just thoroughly enjoyed being a part of it, but also seeing just so many of our public service folks around, too, being present and participating and sacrificing their time to be there. So it's fantastic. And I would look forward to kind of a... I'll call it a postmortem. I don't know. Yeah, debrief on how we can improve, make things better. I actually had an interesting conversation with a former neighbor of mine in your neighborhood, Scott, who's on the committee, who shared that it's becoming harder and harder every year to get volunteer groups.

To come top strawberries and things like that.

Concessions, all of that stuff and so maybe getting the city more involved and I know that may be a political hot button or whatever but I think it was specifically brought up by this committee member of the challenges she's facing and so what can we do perhaps as a city to help support and become more involved. I thought that was a great opening statement to ask the question.

And I know this has been implied, but obviously the Strawberry Days Committee does the heavy lifting on all this stuff. We're ancillary in the sense that we're providing public safety and our Parks Department works their guts out that week too. I mean, there's a lot of people involved and just appreciate that there's people in our community that are taking time and volunteering. And it's important for us as a city to continue to have a strong relationship with that Strawberry Days Committee, which I feel is good. And Lisa Young and I had a conversation last week saying, let's get together, let's debrief, let's see if there's things that we can do. And we usually do that every year. But we can also have them come and give a report to the council as to Kind of their feelings on how it went and if there's other things that need to be talked about I think that's good for everybody I mean just when you get a chance email about the financial numbers for our contribution Yeah, I did and We won't know the financial impact for probably a couple weeks once all the time cards come in and all that stuff isn't there an allocated amount that we give each year and We have a contract with Strawberry Days where our biggest contribution is Miss Pleasant Grove, which isn't necessarily Strawberry Days organization, but we have a contract with funds there, but most of what we give is time. So that's the public safety and that's the parks and those that are doing that.

So we give more to the Miss Pleasant Grove organization than the Strawberry Days committee?

Well, so if you're talking about straight cash, yes. But if we're talking about the time, I mean, we spend a grundle in overtime.

We saw a ton of people there.

But are those numbers you can get, Todd, like the overtime?

Well, no, we'll get it for all of you. But all I'm saying is that will probably be sometime in mid to late July.

Because it might vary from year to year. Is that what you're saying?

No, not necessarily. Because it's pretty straightforward, I think, as to what we provide.

Is there a value allocated towards facilities, maybe other non-quantifiable resources, things like that?

There could be. We don't get nitty gritty on, it's not a, hey, you need to provide this and we're gonna provide this. But we can.

Just make things available.

Yeah, I mean, part of it is they give the city rodeo tickets. That's part of our compensation for some of the services we're providing. Which is awesome. Which is a huge benefit. Employees love it, it's a good thing. But no, we can get you a number because, I mean, it's a significant cost to the city, but it's necessary to make sure that.

Well, and a huge, amazing blessing to the city.

No, and I guess that's why I'm saying the partnership is important because we need them for sure. They save us a ton of money with all the volunteer work. If the city were on the hook to provide that service and pay somebody, that's a big number. but they need us in the sense that we need our fire department out at the rodeo and we need police protection and then our parks guys are all over the place cleaning stuff and emptying trash and doing all that. Yeah, no, Tina's just saying we have a contract, but we'll present all of that.

Maybe like with the overtime numbers or whatever. Yeah, we'll just do that all at one time.

In fact, I'll probably put on our July 21st agenda to review that. Dustin, do you have anything else? No.

Councilmember Williams, before you take off.

No, just thank you. I mean, this week was draining on me, and I didn't attend everything. And there was a lot of, you know, there was people doing lots of stuff for a lot of hours, and they deserve our thanks.

Okay, thank you. With that, then I'll entertain a motion to adjourn from work session. So moved. We have a motion by Council Member Williams. I have a second. Second. Second by Council Member Anderson. All those in favor?

Aye.