Common Council - Regular Meeting

ready. This is called the uh work session to order. Um Justin, I'd like to get you up first if you could. Thank you. Justin, I'm from the Y. Um anybody with questions about the resolution which live and Justin want to get some numbers up? Appropriate to give you that. It's only recently. Thank you, sir.

Uh just happy to get in front of you, answer any questions. Um in year three of this partnership and uh you can see by the numbers of the chart I've presented to you today. Um this is a tremendous piece that the city is able to help provide uh through partnership with YMCA. Um we've seen significant uh enrollment in in all of our um programs. You can see in the highlighted column the percentage of city residents that have been able to take advantage of this program or any of the uh sports programs. Um each year we're seeing well over half of the um on average um some sports obviously a little bit more than other just for interest level. Um but um just a really successful partnership and uh one that we just need to highlight more with our community when they ask about um you know different forms of youth sports in the neighborhood and how the city is able to help support this. Um, but we've been able to have uh hundreds of kids participate in these programs. We don't turn anybody away. Um, and uh this partnership has been uh only strengthened over the past um few years. Um we've had uh many conversations since uh the mayor has taken office on ways that we can potentially grow um and increase partnership in other areas. Uh aquatics is another area that we would love to see uh happen uh with through partnership. Um it's unfortunate statistic that the first and second leading cause of accidental death up through the age of 14 is uh these surroundings

and um it it clearly destroys families, destroys communities. So I think there's some opportunity there. Um and uh with then I think the proposal is for 50 for the next uh for the next year and um I think there's opportunity to grow all of those programs but also in partnership with the mayor and the council if there's other areas that that you can see benefit. Um we do this very well. Uh we have great uh team uh supporting the the sports programs, great coaches and um thank you. Thank you.

Um but happy to answer any questions just uh yeah would love to see the partnership continue. So how much does this cost on I'm sorry. How much are we paying for this agreement? Yeah, on average Oh, there is a I don't see that. It's an up to uh up to 50 up to 50. The last three years we've topped out just around 40. Um you know, we had some uh some numbers put in there just in case of of additional growth and opportunities for additional program. 40 40 40,000,000. Okay. So, it's going to cost us $40,000 for this program. I'm sorry. Cost $40,000 for this program

for the city's correct. But we can go up. We're going up 250. Correct. Okay. Yep. So, you only pay what what uh it is used. I'm sorry for coming in late. No problem. Um Hi. Hi. So, this is for the sports.

Yeah, we're in year three of the partnership with the city. I believe it's up for um vote tonight to continue us for at least another year. Um we see this as a great benefit to the community. This is an area that that we do very well and um uh I believe that it's actually saved the city quite a lot of money as opposed to uh doing them them themselves. And um we've had a lot of really great responses. We get comments um you know during every one of these programs of families very appreciative of the city being able to cover this cost for them. Yeah.

And um yeah, honestly nothing but but positiveness from this this partnership. So total how many how many uh kids are served through this total number? You should have that in front of you. I'm sorry. Participants

those are all city particip. So, um, for instance, uh, uh, this, uh, this soccer program that we are just registering for now, we have a, um, uh, yeah, just over 300 kids. 118 of those are, um, are I'm sorry, 194 and 118 of those are city residents. um fall soccer, which is our biggest program, uh total participants, we had just under 300 and almost 180 of those were city residents. 180 of that 300 was

Yeah. 178. 178. That's a very large. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter and clears throat] uh last year fall. Do you happen to know off the top of your head how much that comes to per kid? How much it costs per kid? I'm essentially are you going to take 40,000 and divide that into 78 to figure out how much it costs per kid? It's uh $125 I think, right? Is it 125 per sport per kid? Depending on the sport. Basketball is a little bit more just because there are multiple practices during the week for each kid.

Um but yeah, that's a eight-week program. Um yeah, parent goes online, registers the child and pro city and then they they cut us back. They charge the city back 125 out of that 50. Y did that answer your question? Yeah. Y anyone else? Okay, thank you very much. Thank you.

Oh, we got we want to start with start with police. Go to police. later. Yeah. I don't know where I

open wears a gun. It comes with the budget. [laughter] You sharp. Um, where would we like to start? Um, you want to start from this top game? Yes.

Go for it. Wait a minute. Sorry. Well, the So, I I just I was talking about this with Jennifer before you uh before we started. Um the the animal control officer, the uh contractor service, and the fee service. Is that just swapped? I'm sorry, sir. Is that just swapped? The like the the animal control officer and the way that's being um way it's down here. Yeah. So the animal control officer is going to be um required by Agon Marcus Law. Yeah. The what we're looking at is the need

the contracted services in the service line is going to be for uh animal control officer Grimshaw. Okay, that was actually my question. Yeah, that contract service it zeroed out here the contract services. So, it should be um it should be $25,000. Well, the fees services is $25,000 in the contract.

So, I I think your point is right. I think that it it switched. But to to that point, we also have to add in by a market, we have to add in the Eagle's Nest contract um which has been submitted for review in which is $500 initial signing and then $150 per. So we're looking at and then white knight which is the penalty which is $10,500 at signing. So it is an additional $15,000 on top of that five. Casey, I think we forgot that number. We can add it. Yeah, we're gonna have to add it. Can you explain what Eagles Nest and White Knight are?

Yep. So, White Knight is a kennel service. He's actually contracted and said um I think he has every town in the county.

But if we get a dog at large, he obviously can't hold that. Elmore is no longer being used. It's temporarily being used. They're still get up and running with the new requirements they put on them. So, we use white knight to penal the dogs until the owner's identified and is picked up. The other thing we use white knight for is for a dangerous dog. That's an isolated event. Um, the dog itself has to be isolated within the kennel. There's a process that's already in place timing and feeds for that. Eagle's nest is used for a dog or animal that we pick up that is injured or ill. So, we had a dollar machine with parbo and he had to be isolated at Eagle's Nest and it took a few weeks to get him healthy again to be released. Um, and that's where that unknown cost is and projection is really hard to figure out based on incident.

Okay. And why um can you explain why we don't use Elmore anymore for kettling? So the state put new requirements on their on all facilities and they're just not up to filler and funding. I'm not speaking for them but I believe it was a funding and then uh contract they have to get the updates. I think they're servicing just Peru and another because of the new laws and they're not right. They're not big enough. They can only service and I think one other town. I'm not positive which one but I think it's just the two towns. Yeah. That's where white came in. They they're trying to pick up all the other did service here. Yeah. The next one I think is

state law hurt west I want to say if that answer your question I'm sorry. Yeah know but yeah there was a description that we know. Okay. Um so for the school crossing guards I was just talking about this with Jennifer again. Um so the the uh it says uh minus 12.2% 12%. Again, an error. Thank you for cringing it up. I was on top after you guys stopped. I wasn't feeling question.

Um, the other one it was in the book. I'm sorry, Chief. Yeah, it's in the book. It seemed like we had more. So, we have seven locations, seven positions. Those seven positions at minimum wage equal $89,600. The reason why there's a fluctuation as you see is because the positions that we have, if you don't show up to work, you don't get paid.

We had we had two specific instances with crossing guards who they had medical issues and they were out for some time which dropped those values which then I think offset the projection. Hey, so does the school pay for any of that? I don't No, we're okay. And did some other people step in like to help out during the time that they were out? I thought I remembered seeing something like that. Yes. Right. [laughter]

So when they are out the police officers or police department covers it with our officers based on the and location and density of traffic and and get. So we'll use it simple to use Stacker Middle School as a an illustration. There's a high density in both foot traffic and vehicle traffic. We cannot go without the buses are there. So when they haul in, we will go and that's it's mandated like all in the cross morning. But did you have extra more than normal this year? Because I noticed there's one at Monty Street and there has not been one at Monty Street in years. The staffing. So okay,

we just lost them. We were full staff. at all seven and he one chose to to retire. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Which it was it's refreshing to see him there because you know they come off that foot bridge and they come right out that way. So I agree there are traffic devices there to aid them. Part of the job of the crossing guard is to instruct teach and mentor. So it's it's not just crossing them. It's to show them as good days crossing. Um the person that just resigned was older on the back side of mine was off street. Sorry.

So um so my favorite subject overtime pay um you know in two 2025 it was 304,000 and change and you've got a projection of 250,000 for this budget. So what was the what's the good news? The news is that we are working underststaffed. I shouldn't say like that. I apologize. We're working with uh a a staff that needs to be um we need to hire more people. We need to retain more people. There's been some moving for for many different reasons. So, as the staffing goes down, you you'd imagine we have projected time off. It's scheduled the October prior, the fall prior. So that's in the books. It's not removed. So as our staffing goes lower, we don't have a minimum demanding for safety um by law, but there's a minimum demanding for safety. So if we have three officers on the day shift handling complaints, you'd imagine three officers get depleted very quickly if you have an accident and a domestic.

Okay. So what's this? Overtime. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah. So, so stupid hearing aid $150,000 is is manageable if we had a if we had more numbers. There's a sweet spot there. We're we're low right now. Yeah. So, so we do have three new ones coming on in January. And we also just hired two dispatchers which is going to bring up two more police. So, it's going to be we're going to go five in January roughly. So, the dispatchers we hire will take this the position. So, the two night dispatchers are actually police officers. We hired two dispatchers. They will take their positions at the desk and the officers will be in a full rotation for um road work, right?

That's going to help. It should help alleviate some of that. The desk is to give you mean alleviate some of the 250,000 basically. That's that's that's the idea. Well, that that's the only reason I'm curious is because the [clears throat] actual for 2025 was 285. So, I was just wondering if if 250 is uh manageable, realistic like I say yes. Okay. I agree. Right. Yeah. We're 36124 too. That's what I'm saying. Look at we and then we've That's one of the numbers we looked at. I mean, there was, you know, Okay. Especially, but they had more members. Yeah. In that year than we do today.

Okay. Um, does anyone else have anything? What number did you want? What or what number? [laughter] Sorry. Okay, let me rephrase that. Yeah, I know. I'm I mean, we've talked about this for years, D. So, I mean, um, we're working on getting a centralized planning system so we know so I can come every week and we, you know, every meeting and we show this is what we've done. Yeah.

I mean, we're working on getting those things. I mean, it's it's hard because uh some of the stuff is antiquated to and we're working through it. I mean, we've got a couple programs we've been looking at now if so and then we're going to come up I I I if we're coming up with a form so that each of the department heads in the meantime saying hey this is what we had this week and this is why you know how much was it because sick time or was it short staff or was you know we do have mandatory training times training regardless what some people say over time that you have trained we talked about this

why is Why did we have the overtime? That way is an easier we can calculate that and we can come with all the departments not just you know two because overtime is an issue across the city. Um does anyone have something anything about overtime? Um so bringing on the new people will help with the overtime but won't that generate more regular? Yeah already about three months before you know the overtime is an issue unless you

why is that different one goes up the other so should work divided the 3 million 401 is actually on that's the assumption that you regular payment. As you can see, this year we're up to 285 instead of 250. However, look at the actual pay 2 million7 revenue and project to be 3 million99 much lower than budget of 3 million in new people, new hires, right?

You know, you take senior folks that retire, of course, it's a lot less when we replace them. I mean, you know, you don't make as much your first year as you do your Okay, I got it. That's some of Yeah. And you want to know what else? I was looking on the wrong line. That'll help. Hi, how are you? [laughter] So, so go up two spaces. Schedule time off is is one cause of that over time. Yeah. Um but that if it's properly planned, we should be able to mitigate that, right?

Um as we go through the year, as we did this year, we lost members, right? Okay. So that scheduling we could immediately have to then have someone either force or volunteer for overtime to cover. Again, I use the example of whether it's three people or five people, it depletes very quickly. This is not the point of this, but I'm sure we're going to talk at at 5:30. So we also have three guys or four guys that are military. They're serving uh dual roles right now. I command them for it. But there's a tremendous amount of time that that is asked of that as well which creates no purchase.

Um and this may be a dumb question but what is uh on uh 1312500 um SEPR pay is essentially zeroed out from separation separation pay. Thank you. That's no retirement. No rejected. Okay. All right. And no furniture costs. No, [laughter] but the tech went up. But you guys just got computers, right?

So the tech went up. If you looked at last year, it was um some of that tech was from a grant. So law enforcement tech grant was utilized last year. It was supposed to be released already this year, but because of the shutdown, it had delayed. It has not dropped yet. Waiting with open arms still apply. So without that affirm we have to proceed with the phone darn telephone signature.

So are are we only getting one vehicle with this this coming year? Is that what 60? Yes, we asked give me we asked for two um within our our exchanges it's it is at one. Uh we have a number of vehicles that are well into the 80s and 90,000s. Um to purchase one vehicle is about $60,000. The upfitting of that vehicle is anywhere between 25 and $40,000. That's all the technology that goes within the car. Um, that being said, we have been saving because we've been moving equipment parts as we purchase them. Some of that technology is growing older, go along in the tooth. It will need to be replaced, but the 65 is for you doing parking?

Yes. If everybody's done with the police. Yeah.

So, as we went through parking, um, a couple things that we noted was the clothing line was was slightly depleted or or lessened. Um, within contract of the asking contract, it does say per person for a year, they get $300. We were going to take uh the remaining funds that we had this year and roll them over as we for that contract. Um but it's still low. So we would like to ask that back up to what we asked for um to cover that contract. And that's just prop. Where are you? Right.

Oh, I see it. Okay. Enough was after that. What was the amount you ask for? I I thought it was 450. Okay. How much should for the uh contract services should be 15? 25 and 85. 25 and 85 is what he said. 85 on the 65. No, it's 15 85 on the crossing guard.

Is that 25 15 on the south? Yeah, I was keeping a scorecard here. Um other questions about parking inter revenues. What is that?

Uh page one parking into fund revenues 2025 is is 144 and now it's up to 63. Good news. See it?

I want to use rich to get a budget adjustment throughout the year. Um, we had to adjust the balance that was always zero. goes back to ripping the mandate off as home counselor said one time ago about paying for the parking all one shot

and we had a cash deficit in the parking fun since then so that addition we budget amount and the actual the budget and budget amount is 50,000 or 80,000 from just the cash the balance. Some of these are also going up uh like the cost per use of credit cards, the mailers are going up 10%. So the more that we issue, the more it seems that it costs because um these mailers have to go out.

So I'm going to ask you a really loaded question, but I seem to be good at that. Um if we didn't have paid parking, would we need as many officers around. So, we have two employees that that are dedicated to parking. Um, the paid parking is being managed, but it's costly. So, it's not an opinion. If we did free parking again in CPL, do we need someone to cover CPL?

No. Okay. The street parking, yes. The beach, yes. Um, it's hard to say. that if we did have paid parking, we wouldn't utilize them. I believe we would. It would it would then just push their resources somewhere else somewhere else. Okay. All right. It's also we also have a DW there. Mark gets paid through if anybody everybody knows Mark. He walks downtown does an amazing job. He cleans up everywhere. Made downtown. is key elements too.

But you just said that the cost of of processing credit card payments is going up. It's it's the hardware and software and the many different versions you can utilize. The app software cost, the hardware cost. I guess what I'm I'm asking just nitty-gritty down and drive down and I don't know down. Um, yeah. Would it benefit us to do away with paid parking? Can you comment on that? I think that's a loaded question. I think it's better.

I feel it, but we have the only parking lots out of this. There's a lot of different debt service that comes out of this. So, it's not a simpler question. I mean, they can't just get a service. Yeah. Something that also has to be recognized is you lose the parking permit revenue. You lose some of your parking fee revenue too. Um and then the beat could also lose last year was $119,000 that parking gave to be and there's this year. So you lose that revenue. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. That's all I have for parking. Good.

I'm good. The projection is slightly off though. So it looks like I think the projection was 70 and it looks like that's more accurate. We asked for 50 but again these these things are going up. Um so when we

we're looking at other options too with the soft because they are we've had issues. We've had some issues with these people. They're not the most friendly things in the world and we've actively looking for better solutions to it. Listen, you know, if I could go back, we can't go back. So, we're trying to go forward with things we have to take care of this week at Sounds like we're going to evaluate. Thank you. And I'm sorry I put you on a spot. I just, you know, it's a question that I I wanted asked and I mean it's a complex answer and I get that. But

thank you.

Thank you. What questions?

I got one. No. You [clears throat] want to start? Yeah. So, uh, so it it looks like the the um the overtime pay is down to 350 from last year. Is there is is it the is it the same reason for the that the police department gave as far as like the the regular pay has gone up you know 36 I mean that's up to 284 28 2,844,000 um which is up. Is that because the is the is the overtime down to 350 because the the the regular pay is up? Is that the

Yes. Yeah. Same same thing.

No other questions. The the the the changes seem reasonable. I mean like the the under I'm thinking it's health. Uh yeah, I'm imagining this is ambulance charges. Yes. Yes. Um I mean the amount that it goes up seems in line with the amounts that have gone up from 2024 2025 lasted or 2025 we projected 1.1 and that today we were at 1.3. Um what is that just something that just is going to go up every year essentially? We're tracking that one. Yes. Last five years has been an upward.

Why? Why is it why did that happen? Uh then it goes back to your staffing. It goes Yes, we're running. We're running a second ambulance not full-time but quite a bit. So we're handling it all. Uh we also have increases by zone. You take I use that example, right? So we have larger our population agent which drives more health issues which increases on our full I was hearing the news they somebody named the news they're all full but we have if you look in the area in the north country where most of your assisted living and your nurses been our our district so

um for your um training and education I was just going to say training and education up 134 30.4%. Um and you and I spoke before the meeting and just because you've got more people need more training, right? Yes. And we're increasing we're uh putting three people through paramedic program. Okay. And that's a 14-month sensitive training uh with a large tuition.

So is that why the regular pay is going to be projected to be higher? Well, is that actual raises, different things that come into the 1100 account? Um, there's no they aren't going to be a paramedic until 7. So, we haven't budgeted for any increase for those three. What's the contract services at 100 contact services the large portion of that is our third party billing for EMS. So, our ambulance services when we when somebody goes on an ambulance, uh, the billing company, we pay them a percentage of what we receive.

Wow. So, it actually works better than what we had before. Before we play paid a flat rate and we were not getting the return on our calls because they were getting their money anyway, so they wouldn't work for making sure that the the fees got paid. And even with the new software that we were getting with the new EMR, that that's not going to change the billing, I assume.

No, that shouldn't change that much. Uh we have been getting uh we have QA and QI for all of our ambulance calls to make sure that are getting what we need to our billing and that right now we got it back from New York State last month. We're at 100%. So we don't have mistakes when they come out because when you have mistakes you can't build. So the coding with the going out. Yeah. Off the EMR. You're talking about contracted services. Yes. Yeah. That's going to be multi. But out of there comes our all of our testing. We have third parties that come in and test all of our ladders. What's that? It's down from last year for the protection.

It's up a little bit. I I'm not about to get up. contract services. Yes, you got it at one the increase over what we heard before. It's up. Oh, I see. Okay. Sorry, I was reading that wrong. Right.

I know we talked about the boat at Lloying. is what's the status of that in here? Question. The boat. Okay. Where's that? It's going to be under insurance. That's the cost is the $7,000 through insurance for what? The boat. And you said there's not a new vehicle needed for another few years, right? No, I don't see either. We're maintaining it ourselves. We have guys that know how to do work on the motors. So, we got we're in for a grant from the too.

Yeah, we're in for a grand for some equipment. Bunch of equipment and show. Oh, and what year would that happen? Hopefully, we're here. Then it takes how long to get an amul. Yeah. Okay. So, but the equipment we could get two months within two months. Yeah. It's just uh any emergency services vehicles now we're three to four years out. If we ordered it today, I won't get it for four years. So, we have to project after that and that's a discussion we'll have to come up with this this year. Hopefully, if they win,

yeah, makes a big difference in that great How much how much does it cost to maintain the boat? $7,000 insurance for us. We do all the work ourselves, the gas and stuff with fuel. We fill one tank in every year. So that's where we're at. Um we did training with it this year and got all those out of the way. So to maintain it is just our people that we did all the work on it. Anyway, how many times did you go out this past year? Exactly.

How many times did you go out this past year? I'd have to research um 10 or 12, but you have people that get it gives us the resource to be able to get out in the water. A lot of recreation goes out there. We have maras, everything else. We also have fire extinguishment capabilities. So if there's a boat fire or marina, it's down there, we can't get to it. uh when you're working the structural gear down next to water, it's extremely dangerous. So being able to come at it from different angles to a lot of money that's mored out in that area. Yeah.

Any other questions? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Any other questions about tonight's agenda? Um, I don't have an agenda item, but I one of something on the bill. I should probably wait until I have a one of these. Yeah. Are they here?

No, this is this is um No, it's they're not. It's MLDD. But I'm sure I mean Casey or Richard might be asking Nancy Church is here. She's uh host of Floyd Brock. Okay. If anybody look NY's out here, I can have her come up. You want to ask any questions? [laughter] You knew I was calling you out, right? Any It's an honor to always talk to Nancy.

I haven't seen you in a while. to another meeting. Yeah. So, I don't know if you had a chance to read the proposal. Does everybody have a copy? Yeah. Um, well, it's my word, so I I took great interest in it right away. Um, just I understand he used to live just down the street from where the park is, and I've gotten to know this park a bit. Um, and it would be wonderful like, you know, to have, you know, the Quantis get involved with the park. Um just I'm hoping maybe we can get in some conversations about things that we can do at the park.

Yes. Uh well, we haven't, you know, figured out what kinds of things should go there, but I know in um we have know a couple of thousand dollars to invest now. Uh and I think in about two and a half years we could actually apply for a grant from International for some funding for the park as well. Uh, so, uh, yeah, it's a pretty unknown park in the city. I lived around the corner for over 20 years and I never knew the name of it. So, but when I was researching for the proposal, I um I saw that it was called the Belmont Park. Yes.

Yeah. And it's a sweet little park and I I'm hoping uh we would be able to do something uh there that maybe isn't available in other city parks. Uh, so I don't know what kinds of recreational things, but I know a member of our club, she lives in the area, and she said, uh, the kids she knows wishes that we could, um, put a hoop up that's working and the basketball court. So said, that's an easy thing we could definitely do. Yes. And that was recently replaced. So yeah, Nancy, those are all void. Can you just Oh, yes. tell everybody a little please an incredible human being.

Yes. So um you know he uh he worked his way up from uh the entry level job of Coca-Cola in the area and he became the area manager uh and so people knew him uh throughout the area as Red because he had red hair and [clears throat] um such a humble hardworking guy. Uh so in our Kowanas club, he was when he passed away, he was the oldest member, a 44 years member. Uh and we had just um celebrated our club's 95th anniversary and recognized him with a lifetime service award. He he I think he served on every committee we ever had. So he was the best fundraiser. You he would sell raffle tickets like crazy. He did the Salvation Army bell ringing. He uh when we built the lodge at the uh Camp Jericho, he was there building uh when we had uh the uh Special Olympics uh lunchon, he was there and he was providing drinks for the kids. Uh he helped out with our dictionary uh project, which we give dictionaries to all the third graders in the local area. Uh we built floats for different parades and he was there building the floats with us. Um, I don't know if you remember the K melt thing on the CBPH pond, but he was Oh, yes. He was a big uh helper in getting it out on the pond.

Oh, goodness. Yeah, cuz that weighed I think couple years. Yeah, I think it weighed 350 pounds or something. It was so heavy. Uh, and um uh so we built a playground many years ago. He helped construct that. Um we used to have Christmas parties at parties at uh St. Joseph's church and he would help out there. Um he was a very active member of our gumball committee. Uh so gumball machine. Yes. Yes.

Uh so uh yeah and those are just a few of the different committees we had. So um even uh as he was older and had trouble breathing, he was still helping us do the coin drive, standing in the street, you know, collecting money. Uh so uh you know so you know we just wanted to uh recognize him. He wasn't a well-known you know he wasn't a politician. He wasn't uh anybody um you know who was known for other things except service and community pride. Uh so I'll just I'll just read the last uh conclusion so everybody here can understand um how we felt about him. So although Floyd Lavali was not a hope high-profile elected official, he most certainly was well known about Platsburg in the North Country for his big heart, his humble nature, his kindness, his reputation as a hardworking, ethical man, a highly effective Coca-Cola manager, and especially for his lifetime service to our community. that Platsburg Noon Kowanas Club would be very proud to see one of its longest serving members remembered by having a city park named for him. And I know we have a tradition in Platsburg of naming parks like the Mel Melissa Penfield Park, the Betty Little Art Park. So I think it's something there is history for doing it or precedence for doing it. In this day and age, it's better to be known through something other than politically. So, I think it's

Well, it's nice to recognize all kinds of people. [laughter] Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think um I don't know if they're here yet. This is our president of the Kowanas Club uh and Delara and um so she's here to support. I don't know if any members of Dan are here yet, but I think they'll be here for the regular meeting. So, well, thank you. I don't know if you have any other questions. No, thank you.

Anything else for tonight's agent? Let's take a 10 minutes break, then we'll come back session. Call the uh work order over.

We're ready. All right. Um, we got to start with the Oh, sure. local uh uh public hearing on the city of Plazburg's voting public hearing to hear public comment on proposed local law page three of 2025. A local law amending the zoning regulations in the city of Plat classify the property known as Replain as a central dis business district with industrial flight path overlay. Can I would entertain a motion to open public? Council man. Councelor Evvis. Roll call. Council Bond. Yes. Councelor Evans. Yes. Council Strat. Yes. Councelor Talon. Yes. Council Manette. Yes.

Council Colleen. Oh, sorry. Um, any person wishing to make public comment on P3 of 2025? No one here to do public comment. Okay. I will then mo entertain a motion to close the public hearing. Councelor Manette. Councelor Bonds. Roll call. Bon. Yes. Councelor Evans. Yes. Councelor Strat. Yes. Councelor Talent. Yes. Councelor Manette. Yes. We're going to do that now. Yes. Okay. Before you do the next local walk.

Oh, because we have the second.

We're going to do a second. Um, the city of Platsburg is holding a public hearing to hear public comment on proposed local law P4 of 2025, a local law amending chapter 360 zoning of the city code to create an industrial overlay district in the city on lands within the county airport flight zone which is located in the city boundaries. And two, permit industrial uses. Three, to create a scale of development promoting industrial use and maintain the character of existing areas. Four, promoting opportunities for more industrial jobs incidental to industrial uses. Motion to open public. Councelor Evans. Second. Councelor Bond. Roll call. Councelor Bond. Yes.

Councelor Evans. Yes. Councelor Strat. Yes. Councelor Talent. Yes. Councelor Manette. Yes. Anyone here to make public comment on law P4 of 2025? With no public comment, you would finish this. Okay. I'll entertain a motion to close public hearing. Bond. Councelor Manette. Roll call. Council Bond. Yes. Councelor Evans. Yes. Councelor Stra. Yes. Councelor Talon. Yes. Council Manette. Yes. Now,

so now in the secret process, local I just want to point out that the local law changes the it does not involve projects or potential projects. So when we're looking at this, we're looking at the impact of this change. So the The first question has to do with the impact on the land. The question is whether the proposed action may involve construction on the physical alteration of the land surface of the proposed site. Again, we're talking strictly about the zoning. So, the council can respond to whether or not they they believe that it does.

I do not believe it does. No. No. No. The next question uh is whether or not the proposed action may result in modification or destruction of or inhibit access to any unique or unusual land forms on the site. No. No. No. And yeah, we'll just go show. Yes. So, that's a no. All in all, next question is whether the proposed action may affect one or more wetlands or other surface water. All in favor? Yes.

Hold on. Can I ask a question? Is there like an environmental expert or somebody who's weighed in on these questions? Like I don't know if we're strictly talking about whether change does this, right? It's not whether the potential projects would be active changes. And if if there was then would somebody weigh in who could have there's a series of other questions. Okay. All yes. No. Oh, the question is whether or not

Oh, no. I'm no. Next question is whether the proposed action may result in new or additional use of groundwater or may have the potential to introduce contaminants to groundwater or inactive work. No, all we're doing is changing the code. Correct. Right. Changing code. Yes. That's it. There's still going to be stringent guidelines to any project. We'll do this again for any project. Okay. Next question is whether the proposed action may result in development on land subject to flooding. No.

Next question is whether the proposed action may include a state regulated air emission source. No. No. Next question is whether Excuse me. You should have some nuclear should have a fine for that. Yeah. 50 bucks. Exactly. Mine does it in my ear. Everybody attorney get a lot more people in the audience by dinner. Downstairs. Sorry. Next question is whether the proposed action may result in loss of floral or fauna. No. No.

Next question is whether the proposed action may impact agricultural resources. No. No. Next question is whether the land use of the proposed action are obviously different from or in tarf contrast to the current land use patterns between the proposed project and the scenic aesthetic source. No. Next question is whether the proposed action may occur in or adjacent to historic archaeological research.

Next question is whether the proposed action may result in a loss of recreational opportunities or a reduction in open space resources designated in any adopted municipal open space. No. No. No. Next question is whether the proposed action may be located within or adjacent to a critical environmental area. No. Next question is whether the proposed action may result in a change to existing transportation systems. No. No. Next question is whether the proposed action may cause an increase in the use of any form of energy. No.

No. Next question is whether the proposed action may result in an increase in noise, odors or outdoor lighting. No. And the last question is whether the proposed action may have an impact on human health from exposure to new or existing sources of contaminants. No. No. No. That's great. Next question is whether the proposed action is not consistent with adopted land use. Yeah. And now now the final question whether the proposed project is inconsistent with the existing community text. No.

And that's it. That's it. It's your first time. Your first speaker. We're done. Are you ready? So during [clears throat] the meeting, we'll do a negative declaration resolution before we're going to do a negative declaration before the two local laws because they just finished that part. Right. So I'm move to call the uh council meeting to order. Please rise to pledge the pledge of allegiance.

I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of Americans here. Councelor Strat here. Councelor Talon here. Councelor Nette here. Councelor Colleen resolve that the minutes of the regular meeting of the common council held on November 6, 2025 are approved and placed on file among the public records of the city clerk's office. By councelor Manette, second councelor Evans. Roll call. Councelor Bond, yes. Councelor Evans, yes. Councelor Stra, yes. Councelor Tower,

yes. Councelor Manette, yes.

At this time, I'd like to entertain anyone with uh public comment for this evening. Hello. For the record, Jonathan J. Geral 22 News. Uh, with what I wanted to say briefly, whatever. Uh, when the discussion about parking camp, I believe councelor Bond had asked about whether the fair collection is is worth it. Uh, that is an interesting prickly question. I'm going through Jared Walker's human transit and it discusses that very thing where it becomes a tradeoff and uh it's on my list I got from the library but uh Donald Shup's bible on this the free the high cost of free parking which does deal with yeah the trade office collection but uh there's specifically a Massachusetts organization official it's not an NGO it's called the uh metropolitan area planning council that looks at greater Austin and I just found about that uh a few days ago, but it does a lot of data and a lot of hard numbers on whether you know parking is worth how much money is lost in potential revenue when you say okay we're going to use this space for street restaurant out front versus this what the trade-off is but uh what actually I originally was thinking about today was yesterday I came across an article in the Canadian newspaper the Glob and Mail which is basically like there. The New York Times is the big national one there. Uh suffice it that well I'll say simply uh some parts of Canada have been moving in a negative direction you could say with zoning Vancouver, Ontario and Toronto. The editorial board wrote that there was a new change that made old corner stores illegal to make in most of the city of

Toronto. Uh but that also includes some exemptions. Yes. but also uh some special uh regulations like no food preparation which means that you can't have coffee makers in uh a corner store that would not be allowed in most city. So the move to uh smart code and the updates there I I think are really welcome and it's a great opportunity for Platsburg to be on the leading side for Eastern North America and maybe a bit more in line with Quebec because as I said even though Canada had been good in some of these ways it's been backsliding uh recently. So, uh, I always keep keep my eye to smart foot developments and, uh, excited for that. And, yeah, I said, parking is prickly, but that Massachusetts, Oregon is probably worth it. Look, thank you for your time.

Anyone else this evening? Other public comment? will approve the payment for the various departments of the city of Platsburg for the week ending November 12th, 2025 in the amount of 64,66968. Council approved the bills eye by the common council for the weeks ending November 14th, 2025 in the amount of $852,669.79 and November 21st, 2025 in the amount of $1,914,5262. anyone reports the library. Anything with the project?

Um, last night we had the meeting over at the second floor of the health department and um the Sunni student group um that's going to be presenting tomorrow here at city hall at 1:30. They did a little kind of dress rehearsal, so I got to see what they're going to be presenting tomorrow. So hopefully um as many of you can make it tomorrow because this is some interesting stuff. They um did some really good surveys over at um Melissa Penfield Park at the the meeting room there and these are the results of their surveys. So they like compiled all the information. So it's going to be pretty cool to learn about that. Perfect.

Thank you. We're adopting a negative declaration for the proposed local law laws P3 and P4 2025 and authorizing filing in accordance with the requirements of the state environmental quality review act. Moved by councelor B. Second. Councelor Evans. Roll call. Councelor Bond. Yes. Councelor Evans. Yes. Councelor Stra. Yes. Councelor Talon. Yes. Councelor Manette. Yes. should ask discussion before. Is there any discussion? Too late. Too late. All right.

Item 7.233, adoption of local law P-3 of 2025, a local law amending the zoning regulations of the city of Platsburg to include section 360-6.1 which classifies the property known as Reeves Lane, a central business district with industrial flight path overlay. Moved by councelor McN. Second. Councelor Evans. Any discussion? Roll call. Councilor Bond, yes. Councelor Evans, yes. Councilor Strat, yes. Councilor Talon, yes. Council Annette, yes.

Carries. Item 7.234, 234 adoption of local law-425 a local law amending chapter 360 zoning of the city code to I create an industrial overlay district in the city on lands within county airport flight zone which is located in the city boundaries to the more permit industrial uses three create scale of development promoting industrial use and maintaining character existing areas and four promoting opportunities for more industrial jobs incidental to industrial uses move by councelor Have a second. Councilman, any discussion? Roll call. Councelor Bond. Yes. Councelor Evans. Yes. Councelor Strat. Yes. Councilor Talon. Yes. Councelor Flet.

Yes. Carried. Item 7.235. Authorize mayor to sign final claim reimbursement document. Motor vehicle damage to city fire hydrant. Moved by councelor Evans. Second. Councelor Man. Any discussion? What was this one? This is a mon street. This is the one that the fuel truck back. Yeah, we got a I think it was Palmer Street, right? Way somewhere. Okay, we're getting reimbured for damage. [clears throat] Any other discussion? Roll call. Councelor Bond. Yes. Evans.

Yes. Councelor Strat. Yes, councelor Talon. Yes. Councelor Manette. Yes. Carrie. Item 7.236. Approve 2026 contract with white panels for dog control services for straight and vain dogs. Moved by councelor Bond. Second. Councelor Evans. Any discussion? Roll call. Councelor Bond. Yes. Councelor Evans. Yes. Councelor Strat. Yes. Councelor Talon. Yes. Council Manette. Yes. Carry. Item 7.237 authorized Belmont Belmont Park name change to Floyd Valley Park.

Moved by council count second council five. Any discussion? Um yeah. Um as representative for W four and this park is in W four. I'm happy to see this go through. I'm happy to see people want to get involved with the park. Um I know some of the people that live in the neighborhood there and they really love their park. They take great pride in it, but they feel like sometimes it's overlooked. So perhaps maybe we can change that going forward. So thank you very much for being here tonight. And some this is some Floyd too, right? So if you want, you know, we Okay, I know. I love. So anyways, we'll call Council Bonn.

Yes. Councelor Evans. Yes. Councelor Strat. Yes. Councelor Town. Yes. Council Manette. Yes. Gary, I accept

item 7.238, authorized one-year renewal of the sports programming service agreement with the Platsburg YMCA. I'd like to make a motion to table this item. Well, so we can see the contract. I'll second that. I have a first and a second. roll on the motion to table this essentially we don't have the contract in hand it's nothing against the contract but we we will get contract to account it's not this isn't a negative thing it's it's just an um so we have a first and a second and a roll call please councelor Bond yes councelor Evans

yes councelor Strat sure yes or no Okay. Yes. Yes. Council Talon. Yes. Councelor Manette. Yes. That's stable. Okay. We will bring it back up if you'll make sure we item 7.239 authorizing approval of RL 25-0. Please move second. Council discussion. Is this is this um Brew Street? This is Brew Street and this is the um the Restore New York grant.

Essentially, the grant's coming to us. We're lending him with we're lending the owner money and we're going to get the grant back. Oh, yeah. Okay. So essentially the city was awarded a grant through the revolving loan fund for this project for the $45,000. The applicant is looking to finance through the revolving loan fund for that $45,000 which will then get reimbursed through the state grant. So it's it's a pretty cut and dry thing. Yep.

Keep requesting the revolving loan fund money which will get reimbursed through a grant that we've already been approved for. And this will bring the more tax revenue once more tax revenue and two more units reserve the questions very well. So if if uh I would recommend if you want to ask any financial questions that that should be done in the executive section. Y any further discussion? Any need for an executive session? Everybody's comfortable. We have the information

already. Good. Roll call. Councilor Bond. Yes. Councelor Evans. Yes. Councelor Strak. Yes. Councelor Talon. Yes. Councelor Manette. Yes. Gary. Item 7.240. Authorizing holiday displays in Trinity Park. Moved by Councelor Talon. Second, councelor Bond, any discussion? Yeah, can't wait for the minor lighting. It's always a great party. Can't believe this year has gone this fast. Yeah, we'll talk a little about that. Now, is there a reason why we have to authorize putting out holiday decorations and

there's rules to everything and this covers. We make sure there's there's insurance and there's everything every eye has to be done. It's a nice meeting with you, but you know, we do have to do our due dil.

Yes. Councelor Evans, yes. Councelor Strat, yes. Council Talon, yes. Councelor Manette, yes. Any new business come before this council this evening? No business. Um, with no new business, I will entertain a motion. Virginia counc

was going to say no. They