Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Good evening. I'm going to call to order tonight's Town of Pittsburgh Planning Board regular meeting for Monday, March 16th of 20 26. Uh we do have everyone. How are y'all? Awesome. We have everybody. So, we do have a quorum. as do I have any um modifications to the agenda anyone would like to make? Uh if not, then I will accept a motion to motion to close the agenda. All right, got a second. Second. Uh all in favor say I. I

Sorry, Mr. James Buster. Mr. Buster. Thank you. All right. And then uh the same for the minutes. Uh everybody do I have any modifications to the minutes or anything? I make a motion we approve the minutes. All right. Motion by Rita. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Connie. All in favor say I. I. I.

I. Um, okay. We will move to our public comment period. Uh, before we get into it, just a few things. Please state your name and address at the start of your comments. There is a time limit of 3 minutes which will be displayed on the screen. In the interest of time and fairness, it is the board's policy not to respond directly to the comments during this period. Um, staff will follow up as appropriate. uh any speaker with handouts shall be given to the town clerk and will be distributed to the board at the conclusion of this meeting. So once again thank everyone for being here and speaking I have I'm sorry I think uh Kim and Dave I apologize I can't it's CG I think Sig number. It was the number one. Did you sign number one?

You know what? I thought that was just a signing sheet. So Oh, okay. Well, so you you you don't wish to speak. Okay. All right. I think we all Oh, okay. All right. Okay. It's easier. Well, let's um Well, let's do this then. I I had five signed up here. What did anyone actually come to speak? This was anformational meeting about uh the Paul Place behind Paul Place resoning of the Cooper property. Okay. Well, just going to listen now, I guess, unless anybody wants to slow.

All right. I was going to say if if you're signed up, you're more than welcome to come speak if you have anything. Um if not, then we will we will move on. All right, we will move on to action items. Our first action item will be PB25345, Cooper Property Reszoning. Um, I believe Miss Lauren will present that. Good evening, everyone.

All right. As mentioned, this is resoning case PB25345, Cooper Property Reszoning. The subject property is approximately 74.48 acres and is located south and west of Pow Place subdivision and Old Rock Springs Cemetery um road and adjacent to Rock Springs Baptist Cemetery. The property is vacant and heavily vegetated.

Thank you. The property properties currently zoned residential agriculture. The adjacent zoning districts are to the north and east mixeduse plan development district to the south residential agriculture and west residential agriculture and mixeduse plan development. The applicant is proposing to reszone the property to multif family residential conditional zoning. The Pittsboro land use map classifies a subject property as transi trans transitional neighborhood infill. The proposed resoning to multifamily residential conditional zoning is consistent with that classification. The applicant conducted a community meeting on May 28, 2025. The community meeting report is attached in the packet. A full list of the proposed uses and zoning conditions can be found on page two of the staff report. The applicant is proposing residential uses such as duplex, live, work, single family, and townhouse as well as community center. Please note that all the accessory uses for the multifamily uh residential zoning district are permitted unless specifically prohibited in the future homeowners association documentation. The proposed conditions I would like to highlight include the maximum number of residential uses proposed is 300. The project proposes a minimum of three product uses for the rear loaded town home, rear loaded single family, and front loaded single family. No individual product shall make up more make up more than 40% of the total number of proposed dwelling units. There are also proposed intensity and dimensional standards related to the setbacks, minimum parking requirements, and perimeter and repairing buffers. A TIA was approved by NC DOT that no

transportation improvements are required for this project. For reference, the exhibit B as well as the attachment number seven in the packet include the recommendation section of the TIA. To summarize the conditions related to site access, three access points to the site shall be made by connect connecting to existing street steps. A minimum of two connections to existing public streets shall be constructed prior to the 100th CO. Two streets are proposed for future connection. The developer shall acquire necessary rideways, construct and dedicate an extension of Old Rock Springs Cemetery Road along the southwest corner of Mary Holmes Park to the project site. And number four, the construction traffic shall access the site by the proposed Old Rock Springs Cemetery Road connection. The street sections shall be designed for 25 mph residential and allow driveway access for the residential units. The internal roadway network condition proposes a 60-foot rideway for the extension of Old Rock Springs Cemetery Road through Mary Holmes Park. A 55- ft rideway residential local street for primary vehicular interconnectivity movement. This is proposed to match the existing Wickham Drive, Barks Creek Road, and Pow Place Lane and a 44 foot rideway one-way street with on street parking adjacent to and abuing the private linear park. The development is proposing to exceed the 20 20% minimum common open space requirement as well as the proposes to pay a per lot fee in L of the required

amount for public recreation prior to the final plat being recorded. The project shall construct a private linear park with adjacent on street parking within the central portion of the development as well as a multi-use path. In addition to the 10- foot multi-use path, the landscape screening and fencing shall be installed along the northern side of Old Rock Springs Cemetery Road extension to screen the parking areas and existing park restroom building for the proposed roadway. Lastly, the project is also proposing an affordable housing condition to provide a payment of $1 million to Chattam Habitat for Humanity. Additionally, the project shall offer a minimum of 5% of total units to qualified Hometown Heroes through the DRB Hometown Heroes financing program and the unit shall be incorporated throughout the development. Upon fulfilling the affordable housing commitments, the applicant will not provide further monetary contribution or land dedicated required for any affordable housing fees. The Pittsburgh land use map classifies the subject property as traditional neighborhood infill. The proposed reszoning to multifamily residential conditional zoning is consistent with that classification. The multifamily residential district in the Pittsburgh UDO is intended to accommodate moderate to higher density residential development including single family on smaller lots, duplexes, and town home dwellings. The district is consistent and considered appropriate near existing mixeduse residential areas and activity centers. Planning staff recommends approval of reszoning case PB25345 for Cooper property with the conditions offered by the applicant. I'll be happy to answer any questions and as well as the applicant in the audience. Thank

you. Thank you Lauren. Um what what questions do we have? Um, thank you and nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, too.

Um, I guess my question is as a resident of Powell Place, one of the biggest concerns that I know I heard from my neighbors was the entrance into the development. Is the applicant suggesting or um maybe I I don't know how to read it appropriately, but where would be the main entrance into the development? Would it be by the cemetery or would it be on Palace Lane? I can let the applicant answer for their concept. I know the construction entrance would be off of Rock Spring Cemetery. Um, but I will direct that to the applicant if that's okay.

Yeah, because I wasn't clear on like the the mixeduse pathway versus the road. So, I just need some clarification on that because it was a big point of contention as I think in the past before I moved into the neighborhood. I think there was some issues on Powell Place Lane where there was some kind of emergency or accident or something. people couldn't enter and exit the neighborhood. And so I just want to clarify where the entry points are and if what would be the main entrance so that if there are um just to make sure that there are multiple ways to get out of the neighborhood for not just the new development but for us who live there already, right? Yes, ma'am. I would like the applicant to answer as well. Thank you. Yeah. Sorry. Can we

answer now or do it be part of their presentation? Oh, I thought this Sorry. They have their presentation. Okay. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. My I apologize. Well, in that case, let's a great question. Thank you. Let's let's see their presentation and then and then we'll continue with comments from there. Excuse me. I got the It's okay. Yeah.

Yeah. I think we go through our presentation. We'll kind of answer some questions and then we'll stick around and we can answer anything else that you need. Before I turn it over to Landon, I wanted to introduce myself and some of the other members of our team. My name is Adam Ashbawa. I'm the director of planning, engineering, and entitlements for DRB Group. Our uh office is in Durham. With me tonight, in addition to Landon with Underfoot Engineering and his team, Matthew are Rick Rohos, our division president, and Amber Naidu, who is our vice president of sales and marketing. And between the five of us, hopefully we can answer any questions you have. But before I turn it over to Landon, I do want to kind of point out how the plan has evolved, the coordination that we've done, not only with the surrounding residents, but with staff. We really think that this has shaped the plan that's before you in a positive way. Um when we started the feedback that we got from the neighborhood meeting were specifically with regard to the traffic and how could we address that and avoid having people come through that intersection at POW place into our project. At first we were a little hesitant to commit to that because we didn't know whether or not the town was willing to allow us to um dedicate or they were willing to dedicate right away through the existing park. We had to negotiate with some adjacent property owners to see if they were willing to dedicate rightaway or we would have to purchase the rideway obviously. But so traffic that concern evolved into one of the conditions that is in the packet is that our main entrance will be off of Old Rock Springs Cemetery Road and we'll have kind of entry monumentation there. So that that will drive our marketing and our traffic through that entrance point. One of the other things we heard was a concern about storm water. Um before we get too

deep into the plan, we always go and we do environmental analysis. We'll do a phase one. We'll investigate the wetlands. And we found that there was an opportunity to preserve and set aside some wetland and buffer areas. And what that did is that kind of drove this a little bit higher density onto the upland developable areas so that we could stay out of those environmentally sensitive areas. The third thing we heard was the buffer and the concern about well you know we back up to woods now what are you going to do and so we decided that we would increase our required minimum buffet our minimum buffer from 20 to 30 ft. So those things again the old Rock Springs Cemetery Road the expansion extension of the linear park and the multi-use path through our site was really a result of coordination with staff parks and wreck department manager and and the staff members that are here tonight. So and then fortunately our our consultant here has a relationship and had worked on the design of the habitat project. So, that was an easy concession or we're we're proud to make that uh donation and I'll turn it over to Landon now and if he has have any questions for any of the team members, we'll figure out who would be the best one to answer it for you guys.

Thank you.

Thank you, Adam. Thank you, Lauren. Um, between those two, I don't know that there's much else that I've got to say. Um, we're definitely here to answer questions. I did want to run through um a brief presentation as well. Um again uh DRB Adam introduced them they are the third largest private home builder in the US. U they do a lot of work in the triangle throughout the southeast and nationally. Um underfoot is uh based here in the triangle and been working in Pittsburgh for over 15 years. He's done a number of projects here. Um, a lot of this stuff is stuff that Lauren already went through, but just for for context, Powell Place, if you look at Does this have a laser pointer on it?

Ah, there it is. So, Pow Place is basically around the project to the to the north and to the east. Um, and just just to get your bearings, um, this is Old Rock Springs Cemetery Road where the existing Mary Holmes Park is. Um and then this is the power place existing Paul Place entrance as Lauren mentioned the reszoning is the MR conditional zoning which is a multif family conditional zoning though there will be no true multif family like she mentioned it's going to be rear load town home rear load single family and front load single family. Um you mentioned briefly in your presentation that there would be duplexes. There are no duplexes planned.

I think it allows duplex. It does allow conditional reszoning allows duplex. Correct.

It's not planned. So the um and that's a good distinction between what what we outlined in the reszoning as you know as allowable versus what the actual plan will show eventually and we've got we've done a lot of work doing preliminary design on this. Uh there are not new places planned though they would be allowable. Thank you for the clarification. Um, so as Lauren mentioned, this is in the uh traditional neighborhood design and the future land use map. Um, so it it is to a tea exactly what the future land use map is looking for in this area. In addition, it's it's really complimentary to how place. If you look at some of the product with the rear load kind of cottage detached garage um especially especially around um this side um that's that's a very similar product to what will be here with the rear load alley fed stuff. Um as Adam mentioned the you know the community meeting that we had last May um it was very well attended. There was you know we had to we were in here we had to take down a we had to take down a wall and add some more chairs. Um and a lot of the stuff that was talked about with storm water transportation and then just kind of privacy and perimeter developers. Um so in addition, you know, like Adam mentioned, we we worked with the town and then DRV went and knocked on the doors of the adjacent owners on Rock Spring Cemetery Road in order to u obtain additional rightway to make that happen. Um, from a storm water perspective, uh, we're we're going above and beyond, and that's one of the conditions in the resoning. They're committing to retain a 25-year storm, which is above and beyond what the requirement is. Um, and then Adam mentioned increasing a 20 foot buffer to a 30-oot buffer. Um, so we did that around the cemetery here. um the

remainder of the track if it's residential to residential would not require any buffer at all, but they are volunteering a 25 type B buffer. So, it's not just adding on to a buffer that's required. It's volunteering a buffer around the entire perimeter. um mention one of the last points here that um there's there's a multi-use path as well and we'll we'll get to your question and there's an exhibit that I'll pull up that will hopefully help to clarify more um the multi-use path versus the old Rock Springs Cemetery Road extension. Um the parks wreck master plan does show uh a greenway through the site that would ultimately um again the these greenway master plans sometimes are just kind of conceptual in nature. Um and ultimately it shows it kind of going through the site and then down a stream corridor. Um we've got enough conceptual design of the site done that we we know where the multi-use path or greenway trail would go through the site. Um, so it'll it'll come in here and then run down the middle of the site through a through a very long linear park if you think u if you go to Brier Chapel and and you they've got some some pretty good examples of what what we're looking at doing. Um, so it's a little over three acres, you know, almost 2500 ft long uh linear park that will have the greenway trail meander through it and then little pods and pockets of of wreck space. So there may be playgrounds, there may be fitness equipment, um picnic shelters, things like that. And then ultimately it'll it'll culminate the view corridor all the way down the end of it is going to be the amenity center. So there's going to be a nice clubhouse with a pool and and um so the the vision of this linear park and amenity and community is just I mean it's

outstanding. Um I say that to also point out the fact that if you take the linear feet of greenway trail or multi-use path that would be required by the parks and wreck master plan where uh the project is actually proposing to build uh twice that length and connected up through old Rosw Cemetery Road. So yeah, I mean we had we had not only a good neighborhood meeting and really listened to what everybody had to say and implemented their feedback into these conditions, but had multiple meetings with staff and and Jonathan and Kyle ship and I met personally with a number of commissioners. um Madison and Foley specifically uh and you know Commissioner Foley lives in P Place as well and just really trying to get a beat on what everybody's concerns were so that we could implement solutions into into the proposal. Um in addition, I think it's a a hot button topic right now. We did do a sanitary sewer analysis that was run through Tri River. It was approved. Um, so we've got a a will serve letter for whenever sewer is ready, this project can be served by it. Um, a TIA was done, was run through DOT, was run through the town. Um, yeah, there's there's been a lot of back and forth. So, this is the exhibit I wanted to kind of point to. Um, and I can't see your name from here, Christina.

Yes,

Christina. So, hopefully this this one will help um kind of clarify uh when we're when we're at the stage of resoning, it's not appropriate to show all the lots and like the specifics of the design. Um, but this exhibit hopefully will speak to kind of where the linear park's going to be. So, this is the linear park that will be down the middle with the amenity anchoring it. Uh the multi-use path will start at Wickham, run through that multi-use or through the linear park and then ultimately go up along um Old Rock Springs Cemetery Road. The condition that Lauren mentioned with regard to the buffering and screening and fencing. Um if you if you've been out to uh Mary Holmes Park, uh I believe Mr. Holmes put the bill to put a bathroom in a couple of years ago. Um, and when we cut that road through, it's going to be 30 or 40 feet from the bathroom. So, as part of the discussions, uh, we we talked about being able to put in some maybe horizontal slat fencing and some additional landscaping to make sure that we're screening that bathroom so it's not sitting right next to the extension of Rock uh, Old Rockman Cemetery Road. Um, the that multi-use path will will also connect down to the south. Like I mentioned, the partial recck master plan ultimately has that there's a big creek corridor that runs down here. So, uh, we will extend that trail down to the property line. So, in the future when that, uh, multi-use path is extended, it's it's there ready to be connected to. Um, as far as connection points go, there are existing connections at Wickham, Clarks Creek, and Powell Place. It's Pow Place is kind of underneath this picture here. Um to clarify Lauren's point in the presentation, uh the town of Pistro has a requirement before 100 units that you have two access points. Um one of those access points will be old Rock Springs Cemetery Road. That's part of the condition and

it will be the only access used for construction. I know that was the that was the sole biggest issue that Paul Place residents have. Yeah, just just kind of recap of some of the highlights. Um the green ray is twice the required length. They're they're offering perimeter buffers where um some are enhanced over required buffers. Most of the site is offering a buffer where there are none otherwise required. that million-dollar payment to Chattam Habitat as mentioned that's that's not just uh going into the general coffers. We've been working with Habitat for a number of years on a project down on Robson Creek. Um that's halfway through design and permitting right now and this money is earmarked specifically for that to be able to do the site work. So that's that's a tangible way it's going to put affordable housing on the ground like now. Um as well as uh offering 5% of the units for the hometown heroes program. Um, and Amber's here if if you have any more questions with regard to the hometown apparel project. Um, 20% required open space. The way that we've got the site plan laid out right now, we're at 30 or above. So, there's more than 50% more than is required. Um, yeah, the recy that's in addition to the linear park. We spent a lot of time and effort trying to get this linear park to potentially be a town of Pittsburgh Park. Didn't quite work out that way. So, in addition to having that private amenity there in that linear park, y'all are also getting the town's also going to get a substantial uh and typical recreation payment. So, that's all I've got. Um, we're here for any questions that you have.

Thank you. Thank you. I have a question. Um, you said there would be up to 300 units. Do you have any idea how many units are currently in power place? Would we be like stoubling that kind of capacity or I think it's a little bit more than 300 right now. I think there's about 400. Okay. That's that's a guess. That's not a that's not a right. There's there's a few power place residents here that may know better than I do. Anybody know? Google didn't know. So tried that first. You Google it and nothing came up. I think between single family homes and town houses and then the apartments about the apartments.

The apartments add in the multif family. It jumps up pretty quickly.

The question was does anybody know how many existing residences are in one? It's got to be more than that. It was the two almost 300. Yeah. So, it's it's about I think you know I I thought it was somewhere between three and four. If you if you add the multif family, it's it's more than the apartments are 264 units, but aside from that, I don't know. So, maybe you're closer. And I Oh, sorry. Sorry. Go ahead. I still don't quite like make it very plain for me. What does it mean by the old the the um the old old somebody cemetery?

Rock Spring Cemetery. Thank you. Yes, that one. Um I know it says a site entrance and that's like an entry point, but like is that going to be the main entry point?

So yeah, so I have every time I write that in a report, I have to write the whole thing out too. So I have started abbreviating it. Um yeah, so if we look up here, um just to go through kind of site access once again. Uh there are there are three existing stubs from Powell Place with public streets to the property. It's here at Wickham here at Clark Creek and this is where Powell Place connects. Um we are proposing four more. There will be a stub here for future development to the uh west. A stub here and a stub here as well as the extension of Old Roxing Cemetery Road. Old Roing Cemetery Road is where Mary Holmes Park, I Toro, the LDS church, all that stuff are. So, this will be the main entrance. Um, this is this will be the focus for where monumentation goes, kind of the closest to the many center. That doesn't mean that folks will not come through place. I mean, they're public roads. We can't dictate where people go. Uh, but if you look at path of least resistance and likely uh travel path where people coming off of Hillsboro will come, it's probably old Roxman Century Road. Does that help to answer your question?

It it does this question. Yeah. Yeah. And and and I think a big point, one of one of the conditions in the resoning is that all construction traffic will use which sort of segus into a couple concerns that I have. Number one, if everything goes as planned, reasonably timed, when do you anticipate the first construction vehicles will start going in there?

So, if everything goes as planned, we will have commissioners in April, April 13th, I believe, assuming that that's a favorable vote. um as soon as DRB would release us for full design and construction, I think we're in general um 9 to 12 months for design and permitting through the town and county. Um I think the biggest thing here that will dictate when construction gets started is the availability of sewer. Um assuming that sewer were available today, um we could probably start construction, you know, as soon as construction drawings were approved. Um, this could be a year from now.

Oh, I won't speak for DRB, but if there's pretty good level of certainty that uh within the next year and a half or so that sewer will be available, they would probably start construction understanding that they've got a good 8 to 12 months of site work um before you even get close to building the first homes. So to answer your question, I would say by late spring 27 would be the soon as you would anticipate seeing construction traffic.

Thanks. Now just I need to ask town staff question. So please refresh my memory. When is the expansion of Hillsboro Street slated to start? I believe it's the summer first 27. I thought I thought they were starting this but I understand it was like August they're going to start of this year 26. That's my understanding. Yeah, they're and m they're going to start downtown and keep going. So,

do we have any leverage whatsoever to prohibit construction traffic for this project that would be coming from the south off to keep them off Hillsboro Street? Before we go too much further in that, I think we're getting away from re the reasonzoning right now. understand but I I think he this is my last one and it is you know a critical issue. I mean do we have any leverage whatsoever?

Um I think the only um at this time would be to propose a condition or to work with the applicant on having language if that is what the planning board would like to recommend to the board of commissioners um would be related to that. But I'm just not sure. I I think it's easily enforceable if we made a condition that said old Rock Spring Cemetery Road is the sole construction entrance. I'm not sure how we how we have an enforceable condition that would say people can't come from the south. Well, Hills up Hillsboro, right?

I don't know how you would I don't know how that would be enforced. I think from a um conditional zoning standpoint u because this is with within this parcel it's more related to how we could enforce with with the parcel itself and the adjacent property. So depending on how far as mentioned like it may not be enforceable given how far where they're going to be coming from but as mentioned you could recommend we look into it or something of that nature but to agree with the applicant on that

and and keep in mind that when when NC dot is doing a a tip project they will have traffic control plans in place and that will generally account for any anticipated traffic whether it be construction or not construction. I have one more question I think for staff. Um I'm looking at attachment two number seven permitted principal uses. I think this is UDO language but um item B is dwelling live work. Could you explain what that means a little more?

Definitely. So, it's it's um when a um residential structure allows the the work aspect and there's a certain percentage that allows the um the homeowner or whoever owns it to be able to work there and have it's it's kind of like having an office building but not to that extent or it's a little bit more than a home occupation as well. So, it's like you could have the first floor um residential or vice versa if it's just twotory and there's a certain percentage that is dedicated to a work type of business space versus could you give me an example like a masseuse or something like that who's working out of their home or hairdresser an artist a hairdresser salon in her garage but

okay right it it goes a little bit more than a home occupation but it's like it's what was mentioned like um if you have um residential structure and you'd like to turn a certain portion of it into a um office or or vice versa of having a rental aspect to it. So, it just it depends on the square footage of how it's um the use. That makes sense. Okay. Trying to like rental. So, a resident would be able to rent a portion of their home

if this really is the business portion. So if you have clients coming in or um if you have a um digital advertising company and there's a certain percentage that has a bedroom and and you know kitchenet or a bathroom then they can stay there and it has to be within it has to be broken down within the square footage of that entire structure. So it can't be the entire use for live entire use for work. So it gives them that flexibility. Okay. But it wouldn't be like it wouldn't be like a a restaurant downstairs and a condos upstairs. No. And maybe we can help clarify. I think that's an allowable use typically in the MR zoning. I don't think that the RB wants that per se. And I think I would speak to that, but we would be one to strike that out.

It's like I'm curious in our

a great point. As we were listening to the conversation over there, we're like, "No, that's not what we want." what what we're typically wanting to allow, like I said before, let's say there's a hairdresser who wants to have a salon in her garage. We want to make sure that there's not some restriction on her that if the homeowners association, if we decide as the management company of the HOA that we're going to allow it as long as it doesn't interfere with the rest of the residents in the neighborhood, something simple like that we would allow. If somebody had a, you know, a tax service or something that they wanted to run out of their home, we will allow it. But doing a fullervice restaurant or some of these other things that we heard, that is not the intent. Okay. what we're trying to do

and it would still have to follow whatever town process is is required to be allowed to do that and that would not be permitted with the restaurant. That would be a different use al together. Just wanted to add that for record. Thank you. And then no go ahead. Um the next questions I had were specifically around the houses and the buffer behind Clark's Creek and um I forget the name but one of my

Thank you. Yeah, not Old Wickham but Wickham. So, I know there's a 20 foot buffer, but is there um I don't think I read anything about any like anything that would be it would just be like the trees that are there currently and and that would be the 20 foot buffer before the next property start or would there be fencing? Would there be additional additional um you know plants planted there or trees all that stuff? So again that that is not a required buffer but that is volunteered buffer is uh the reason that it would be planted to a type B buffer which is semiopaque and I don't have the standards committed to memory but it's x number of evergreen trees plus x number of shrubs per linear foot. So there is screening there. It would be something like

correct. Um I'll I'll point out as well there was a few folks that that came uh to that meeting and you're talking about this area like Clark's Creek and uh Freeman or whatever this is. Um there's a there's a ridge line that runs like right here.

Um and a lot of that runoff is going down to their properties and flooding their backyards. And I've heard stories of retaining walls being washed out and things like that. when when this project comes in to do the design, um we've already planned to pick up any of the rear yard drainage and take it to whatever storm water control measure that we have. Um so that's going to be something that really alleviates a design concern or an an experience that they're having right now that's going to be gone by the time this thing is is built. But

there wouldn't be any to stop someone from walking in between Powell Place and this development in terms of like a fence or some kind of barrier. No difference than nothing stopping people in Powell Place from walking on these woods for the last 20 years.

The reason why I asked that is because um my house is very close to the apartments and what they did was they built up like a little bit of a I don't I don't know the official words for it, but I'm going to say like a little hill burm, I don't know. And then they put a fence there and then there's trees there as well. So you can't walk through you can't like physically walk through. You you would have to walk around to get in there. So I'm just wondering if anything like that would be in place or would it just strictly be the the the trees and things like that? Yeah, just the trees. Um and when a type B buffer is fully grown out, um it would be tough to walk through.

Is it possible to add anything like that fencing or something like that? I I I don't have no idea if that's what the the the neighbors want. I'm just asking if it's possible. Yeah. Um thank you, Landon. Um the the key there is there will be homes with backyards that back up to this buffer.

So if somebody wants to walk, say, to the park, they'll walk on public streets and sidewalks. There will be a street here that would connect to the linear park. But for the main the main route for people who live back here would not be cutting through a buffer and through people's backyards and through their lots. It would be walking on the sidewalk in the multi-use path through our linear park to the park. Does that make sense?

Absolutely. I just think about um the again if you think about where we are and what we have in our in our neighborhood. We had where the sanctuary was was a lot of trees. You couldn't see the road. you couldn't see Powell Place from 15 I mean from 64 but because of sanctuary and the um construction of those apartments and that buffer which has you know trees there but you can I mean you can clearly see the highway you can see POW place from the highway in a way that you couldn't before and just imagine that the people who live on uh Freeman and Clark's Creek ha you know they have a nice uh you know obviously it's not theirs but they have nice trees and things like that there and then with the construction construction. Now it's they're going to have sort of like a I call it in my opinion a goldfish bowl, you know, fishbowl kind of backyard because you can sort of see everybody else. And so I'm just trying to figure out like what what's going to be there to keep it from becoming sort of open space.

Well, the tree buffer, as Landon mentioned, 20 ft type B is semiopaque. So there will be some screening, but certainly you'll have a filtered view through to somebody's backyard. and vice versa. It will be that way. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

Um I have one question. I think it would be for Miss Nadu. Um possibly really more of a request is if we could add for the hometown hero um programm I love the program. Absolutely love the program. But could we include our municipal government employees to that as well? Make them eligible. Um that I think that would be a huge help. Um Thank you. And and you love the program because of what? Just because

the hometown's well the interest rate obviously looks a lot better than what they're offering right now for um curious if there was that notice about it. Um yeah, sorry. if if you would like to explain the

Yeah, I mean I'm I'm happy to kind of explain it generally. Obviously, the Hometown Hero program is something, you know, that we've talked to the town about and I don't I I'll talk to all of you. You know, affordability is obviously a you know, a a big problem right now. Um and obviously interest rates again just skyrocketed last week. I know everybody's seen that. Um we do something called a flex program. Um and I won't bore everyone with all the details. Um, but we kind of flex with the market and um would pay that chunk of money ahead of time. And for all of those who are familiar, you can pay a block ahead of time um to get, you know, a better rate and a better program. Um, these programs are extremely expensive. Uh, getting down to 3.9 is uh, no easy feat right now. Um, I can't give you guys kind of an exact amount per home or per buyer because that would really depend on a lot of factors like all of you have when you buy your home. Um, but we felt like, you know, the the rates are the the biggest issue with affordability right now. Um, and you know, obviously average sales price is, you know, an issue for some too. Um, but really it's the monthly payment that, you know, a lot of people struggle with. So we felt like incorporating the 3.99 and incorporating you know the employees that work for your towns and you know the the first responders and you know government employees um and all these people that pour everything into the town and the 3.99 rate did two things. Um it got their payment to you know where we feel like is comfortable um and obviously we sell a lot of homes. we know that comfort level um with, you know, a lot of those employees, but it also protected the values of the community surrounding all of your beautiful homes. Um and and that's the tricky thing about affordable housing. And I know I'm preaching something everybody knows. Um but you still want to protect your values. And you know, when you just look at affordable housing and drop prices, which is what a lot of

people do, it really affects appraisal values and a lot of different things. Um, so we felt like this was the best program um that would meet everyone's needs. But I again I'm happy to, you know, work with you all. Um, it's something close to our hearts too in Raleigh. Um, and happy to answer any additional questions about it. Thank you. I have a question. I'm I was shocked to see that doctors are included in in this group of people that need housing assistance, teachers,

right? I see all the others, but I don't see the people that sweep the doctor's office and the people that build the houses and the people that drive the trucks. And there there's lots of other people that need housing assistance and I'm not sure this is really addressing all of that. Okay.

I I mean, I'm happy to talk more about it. You know, obviously it's it's a little hard to define a program before you have, you know, an exact concept of the community. Um, we definitely weren't, you know, attempting to leave anyone out. Again, affordable housing is this complex issue. Um, it's it's hard to market it just to be transparent with you. Um, because obviously, how do you list all those things on a marketing material? Um, but typically in the fine print, um, you know, we go more in depth with that working with our lenders, too. Um, so just to be honest with you, it it's in no way that I was attempting to leave anyone out. It's just an initial concept for a program that we were trying to really honestly receive feedback on. So based it's based upon what their salary

it depends on how you do the affordable housing piece. Again you can definitely do salary um base and and do it that direction. Um it was more just you know how we were trying to pivot towards the program and again we've gotten a lot of different feedback. Um but it again

if I can if I can type in real quick as well there was there's been a lot of back and forth with with staff and elected officials on this as well. Um, and I think the the hometown heroes program is a program that BRB already does have in place, not to be exclusive. Yes. But it's there's one mechanism by which they can offer affordability. In addition to that, there's a $1 million payment being made to Chattam Habitat. So when we look at all the different options, it's well, you can provide 10% at 60% AMI or this or that. Then you get into issues with, well, are you dropping prices just and and then does that affect everyone around you? So we looked at this comprehensively and holistically from 25 different ways. I assure you because I was at most of those meetings and this was a way that like there are real right now implications to the million dollars that Habitat's getting and then the 5% that will be used for you know ideally would be for everyone who needs it but in this case it's not. It's specifically for who they identify as one here. I I think that we can we like to continue the conversation because I think sometimes you can do it based on average monthly income so we can incorporate more. Uh I think that we were just trying to come up with something to market it so that we could get our first responders, police officers, teachers, uh you know, government workers that uh would probably qualify based on the average monthly income. But if we want to expand it, we can just base it on that. Um so we certainly would not leave everybody out for sure. So, thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Okay. La maybe my last hopefully my last question. So, um in the report on page two, Lauren, your report on page two, it says the principal uses, the dwelling, duplex, live, work, etc. There are five options listed, but then on the page three, it says the project will provide a minimum of three product types listed below. And there are three I'm sorry. Product types just mean like the type of home, correct? Or or or like layout of home.

Yeah. We we can have a single family detached with uh 15 different product. In this case, we're the three product we're using is is a rear low home or rear load single family detached and then a front load single family detached. I guess I guess I'm quibbling on the word minimum. What is that? I don't I don't understand that part. the minimum of the three product types. So you could do more than those three. Correct. And they could in terms of this reszoning in terms of the mixuse, right? Right. So if if we had a if we have a front load single family and a detach, we might have a a 40ft product and a 45 foot product. That would be two different products. So they're both they're both single and detached.

Okay. But it's not like we can change this to something other than what we've talked about. Only the allow only the allowable No. Um, I have no further questions. Um, the motion. I'll move to approve. I'll second that. We've got a motion from charity to approve. I assume to uh approve as presented. So that also though with the recommendation for the municipal workers to be added to that condition. Yes, please.

Make sure I had that my notes. Okay. All the words. Do you want me to say all the words? Yeah. Go ahead. Okay. I make a motion to recommend approval of resoning case PB25345 Cooper Property. and I'll second it again with the addition of municipal workers to the hometown heroes program. Thank you charity seconded by uh Freda. Um all in favor one one thing I mean sorry discuss discuss the motion. Well I want to discuss the motion. We we can't we now we have a motion on the floor. You can discuss the motion. Yes. Okay.

You like did you have something else? I have something once we approve them. Okay. All right. Um if there is no discussion then uh I will all in favor of the motion uh please say I I All right. All opposed. Nay. I Okay. So we have a two to sorry guess I guess can we just have the the nays raise hand. All right. So, Christina and Connie. So, two to five. Um, the motion passes.

Um, thank you. Yes. Do I mean is does the group have an appetite for making a recommendation that the staff follow up on the potential for limiting construction traffic coming south to north on Hillsboro. I think yeah I don't know that if that's right I mean I guess we can ask staff to to look into that know that we need to for that to look into it

that's going to look into it I don't condition will come from it or recommendation but we'll definitely look into our engineering staff All right, we will move on now to action item PB25624 WER major subdivision preliminary plat. I think Lauren is going to present again to us. All right. Well, hello again. Um, this is the major subdivision pre-launch flat for PB25624 WLE tract.

The applicant Chattan Park Investors LLC is requesting a major subdivision preliminary plat for a proposed 48 residential units. The associated conditional zoning PB24509 was approved and adopted in January 2025. The proposed development is subject to the conditional zoning as well as the requirements and standards within the town's unified development ordinance. All right, before I get started, I wanted to note that there's an arrow at the bottom right hand corner. So that will show you where the north direction is. So north will be on your left hand side just based on the orientation. So

all that in the business of north arrow.

North arrow. There you go. Descriptive. Um the reszoning case was approved for approximately 122.5 acres. And this preliminary plaque proposes a total project area of approximately 99.55 acres with a proposed density of 4.11 units per acre. The proposed development is adjacent to Highway 64. So on this side, I'll say left side to or you can do the north arrow. um north of business 64 which would be on the right side if we stick to the same orientation right now and east of Chattam Parkway and west of Eubanks Road. The existing use is vacant and has existing structures and the proposed use includes single family and town homes. The development is consistent with the traditional neighborhood infill land use map designation. The applicant is proposing 112 town homes and 296 single family lots. The smallest lot size proposed is 1,980 square ft and the maximum proposed is 8,792 ft. Please see um page two of the staff report for additional proposed development standards. The dimensional and intensity standards table on page three of the staff report include the minimum lot area, lot width, and setbacks proposed that were approved with the conditional zoning. This major subdivision preliminary plat meets those requirements. The development will have sewer and water from Tri River Water and Tri River Water will approve the utility plans during the construction drawing phase. Hydrant locations will be reviewed by the fire marshall in town for final approval at the construction drawing phase as well.

The development is proposing a minimum 60 foot wide buffer adjacent to highway 64. So on my left hand side or the north depending on which way you're looking at it. Um and the repairing buffers adjacent to the highway 68 board business which is on the right hand side or south depending on how you look at it satisfy the scenic corridor overlay district buffer requirements per the UDO perimeter buffers were not required adjacent to a repairarian buffer or the property within Chhattam Park. The public recreation requirement will be met with a fee inlue amount at the current rate of $4,750 per dwelling unit to be paid at the time of final plat. The development is meeting the minimum open space requirements and the overall landscaping will be approved at the construction drawing phase. This sub subdivision is proposing access from Old Providence Way. So, it's going to be on um myself. It's going to be um on this side or it's going to be the left-hand road right here and on um Oaklan Avenue, which is this the one on the right. if you're going to follow a pointer or the street that's kind of curve versus the straight um line. There is also a sub street uh provided to the east which we you see right here. The preliminary street designs have been reviewed by the town. The fire marshall has also reviewed the preliminary street designs per the fire apparatus access road standards. The development services department and fire marshall have also reviewed all the preliminary improvements and final approval is required during the CDS middle process. The TIA has been reviewed and per the requirements in the TIA north and

southbound turn lanes on Chhattam Park will be installed. The TIA traffic impacts on page six of the staff report include the full list of recommendations. Um, so to kind of summarize, it's just the the turn lanes. The WBLE Truck major subdivision preliminary plat is consistent with the town's comprehensive plans and planning staff recommends approval of PB25624 WLE tract major subdivision preliminary plat. I am happy to answer any questions. What should be a quick question? The potential CBU area. What's a CBU? It is a smaller mail kiosk. Okay. Okay.

So, it just um it's I forget what it stands for, but it's a different option than a full mail kiosk. Gotcha. Okay. What's in the center, square? So, this will um this was not reviewed by staff at this time, but this is where the applicant is proposing to do an amenity center or playground or some type of um just amenity feature for the subdivision. That's part of the um be the active or recreational open space requirement.

I believe I can always let the applicant address it as well for their full plan but um this will be reviewed during a site plan um application. Hello Chris Boly from LAR. So, we are going to do a for a community of this size, we'll end up putting in what they call probably a cabana 2 or greater, which is a full clubhouse with a weight room on the inside. Okay. Probably an event lawn in the background and a full pool. Okay. I probably missed this, but are these all town homes or are these also single family?

Actually, we proposing two different types of town homes. um the edge which is page down um along that western edge. Oh, thank you. Is it right here? I'm talking about down right here. Uh the right.

So, it's hard to see um where you're sitting, but these town homes here and these we have uh twocar garage sort of larger units. Um and then the row which is up against 64 is um what we call the designer town homes um which are typ and and in this case we have a larger block of them since it's more of an urban project. Um so almost give a rowhouse feel 22 so wide. Within the whole product throughout the community, we have what we call the classic lots which are on the perimeter here which are very large. And then here and we have what we call cottages. So that that urban model, that new urbanism um that we're promoting um has rear loaded product um in some cottages. So it potentially could attract some active adult buyers as well. Um, and that's the goal is to create a community within the Chattam Park community is that everything should be sustainable and walkable inside of this community with different housing types. and then connection to the greenway trail to the south um which is along here. Uh and we've widened that per the town's request from 8 to 10 ft uh which gives it an active park um component and widening it to 10 ft. Uh and that'll also connect here uh to the community. So walkable, you know, uh promoting walkability inside the community. Is there room for trees on any of these lots? It just feels so tight.

There will be. There will be uh Well, I'll see if I can go to the landscaping sheet. It's hard. It's hard to tell, but um these will show um street type trees and then there is a lot requirement um which is reed at um officially at CDs, but there has been a preliminary review of those landscape. It's just it's tough to see on the overall, but when you look at the when you look at actual um ex um the plan sheets are with a different scale, you'll see you you'd be able to see where they're shown. Sorry to jump in. No, please. Those similar just here. Will those be similar to the setup we have in Chadam Park?

Yes. Where there's two trees in the front and Yeah, we Okay. And we've adopted even though we're not technically in Chattam Park, we've adopted a lot of the Chattam Park standards. We do Lauren out, we are our primary entrance is through Chattam Park. And the nice thing about this mixed product type here is with the UNC medical facility here, this this could easily become workforce housing and promote um walkable commutes, you know, again going with the more urban model, but walkable commutes rather than getting in your car and driving 30 minutes to work type of

Oh, it's okay. I get the idea. Are they all rear rear loaded? Is that the No, ma'am. Um only only the cottage product is a rear loaded urban type unit. Um probably you'll have to correct me, but it's I'm I'm pretty confident we have them here and and in here. Am I close?

I'm Kyle Vaughn with Wizel. We're the engineer. So yeah, the uh I think what Chris was kind of talking about those classic units, those are kind of just typical front load single family and then there's a mix kind of in both corners uh with the rear load. Uh you can see the alley sections kind of throughout those pieces as well. That's see if I can is that right there? Yeah. Yeah. So that connection there right where you're pointing out and I think there

yeah so we try to put them throughout the community so it doesn't unbalance the site and load one site up with one product. We're trying to promote coingling of everybody you know so it creates a harmony you know for a community. I I have questions about the boundaries on on the 64 bypass side. Is is that going to be left alone? The the wooded the the red buds that are blooming now and the things that you can see along the road. Yes, ma'am. That's going to be left like it is.

Yes, ma'am. Um if you're on 64 and you're looking into the site, you'll see quite a bit of relief or grade separation there. And then the town has requested and and we gladly went along with it uh to leave that buffer undisturbed um for a lot of reasons. I mean it it helps with sound mitigation and visual and etc. But it just looks good too. And then um this track here is that the McIntyre piece the little triangle.

Yeah. So there's actually two. There's the womble gets called womble a lot but it's actually WBLE and McIntyre. But this little triangle here, which has no units proposed in it, we can't really show it on this too well, but uh there's quite a bit of of relief here in that the topography slopes down quite a bit right there. So, so we had to work with, you know, the physical constraints already given to us in this too. Yeah. And then what about on the 64 business side? I mean, so there's trails going through there. What what is the rest of that? Is that going to be wooded or what what's there?

Yes, ma'am. We were required to give a a connection here which this is an with a you know call an out parcel um under different ownership. Um we're providing access potential here and they already do have access out to um 64 business over here. Uh, so we're we're around it. You know, you can see that we surround it, but this is all going to be undeveloped over here and over here. All that shaded over here. Yes, ma'am. All of this edge.

Yeah. The greenway kind of shown the through there. So, it's a 10-ft greenway. Um, and then it's ultimately only like a a 20 foot easement. That's the only thing that will ultimately be disturbed in that area by this project. um towards the top of this map. West. No, north. East.

I see that that's um some of that is zone commercial. Will the residents have access to that? Um we're talking about walkability anyway other than the greenway. Will there be another like um a walkway along 64 business? Sorry, not 64 business towards the north. Page north. Yeah, our page up uh the east. Um well, we've got what is it? A creek over there as well.

Yeah, there's a there's a stream of a so it like it would be a pretty serious crossing to get over there. So, we have nothing proposed. Okay. So, they would be able to in theory access those areas through the greenway. Is that the idea? No. What they're saying is there's so because of this buffer, it would take some serious doing to be able to disturb that buffer to create a greenway across the street. So, what's the walkability that we're talking about like within the community? Within the community and the connection to the public greenway here, which I believe That's what I see that this is on siege right or to the south.

That's what I was Oh, I'm I'm sorry. I thought we Yeah. So, we are Yeah, but my idea was like could they walk here and then access these areas? We are providing the greenway to our property line there and then Yeah. ultimately would be, you know, feature connection um for anything that's developed on those off-site parcels, but there's no kind of like walkway to the north of this to the actual north arrow north. North would be the highway. The arrow is pointing, doesn't it? Yes, this is this is 64 and it's a barrier. Got it. Got it. Couldn't do anything. There are sidewalks and on the overpass of Chadam Park Way,

right? And so this is designed to link up to the greenway that's coming through the adjacent property and then ultimately out to Chattam Parkway and ultimately part of a bigger network for the whole community uh for greenway system and and there's a multi- a 10-ft multi-use path proposed in our guess right entrance as well that will connect with Chattam Parkway you know the rest infrastructure both of the roads connect to Chattam Parkway. Correct. That's the only in and out, right? Okay. And then there's a hospital or something going in there. Yeah. In the upper corner.

Yeah. Yeah. Basically northwest. Yeah. That that'll be UNCC hospital. Okay. This is Is this commercial? Okay. Got it. Yeah. I think I think it's ultimately like medical office buildings office. Yeah. proposed UN.

And then we have, you know, just keeping in that new urbanism theme, we've got roundabouts and traffic calming at the request of the town staff as we we incorporated that into the design as well because these are pretty long straight roads that need to be broken up. Um, all right. If I have no we have no uh further questions, I'll accept a motion.

I make a motion. We um approval and I'm don't know either. Would you recommend approval by the sub subject major subdivision premier plant such as the inclusion of sidewalks on both sides of the road, park lanes and provision of greenways in accordance with the United Development Audience and the Pittsburgh Park and Recreation Master Plan. All right. Motion by Freda, second by Allan. Um, all in favor of the motion say I. I. Um, all opposed. All right. It's uh passes unanimous y'all. See you next time.

Okay, now that we I think this is the part where we lose the rest of our audience. Let's say we want to talk about trees next to each one. Uh, our item number three tonight, our UDO tax amendment ZTA 20261, Miss May Armstrong. No offense, babe. No offense. Docker was not supposed to be. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Retain doctors.

Yeah. Primary care physicians are in desperate need. They do make a lot of money. Sorry. May. Thank you. Good evening everyone.

I see everyone again. Um staff is requesting a text amendment to the UDO for section 12.12 which is the terms and use define specifically to insert definitions and to amend some definitions. They're about 10 and a half pages. Um we sent these out. I hope you have had the opportunity to review those definitions and if you have any questions or concerns, please let us know. They're bit meant to clarify and add some consistency and um address some of the regulatory requirements directly. So,

um one question I had where talks about the area of shallow flooding being one to three feet. I mean, is that standard? It is standard language. is part of actually the blueprint language for the state as well. Okay. Some language is taken from the blueprint, some language is taken straight out of regulatory and some of this clarification that's not been provided before. And the other question I had is why the heck are we adding tattoo parlor to the definitions?

Um the that is one item that has not been fully defined in there and there is a request coming in the future to make adjustments potentially to that designation and one of the downtown areas. I will say um early on uh when I started getting involved there was a request for that. I remember that. Okay. Yeah. So, and even one before that was there. Yeah. It's an issue. Yeah. People want a tattoo. It's just um unclear. So, this is very actually we want to make sure it's very well defined and you will see additional pages coming next month for definitions as well. We just did not want to give you, you know, 50 pages of definitions.

Good. Yeah. I have some questions. I I did read through these and and I really appreciate having definitions. Um, I noticed under the annual chance flood definition, it shows that the 25-year is 4% ACF and the 500year is 4% ACF. And I don't think that's possible. That needs to be adjusted. How'd you cut that should not be that um do you want me to keep going? Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Um, under the buffer base, I I had to look up what 2 and 1/2 inch caliper means. So, it would be helpful to me and maybe other people to to have that more clearly defined that that it means 2 and 12 inch diameter at the 6 in above level or whatever it is adding caliper definition. Yeah. Well, I think what she's saying is is be within that buffer base definition, but when you use the term caliber base just so that and also caliper fact that usually when when we're discussing caliber it's at breast height is

I don't think that that's probably not the fact said six inches above soil level. Okay. So that is different than what I'm used to then. So we Yes. So we there needs to be some clarification in there. We need to add the breast side level in here to use that one specifically. We'll add that as well. Okay. So it'll be it would be ABH. Okay. Um on the one about the Cadam area bus connector, it says that that is excluded from imperous surface calculations. I was curious about why that would be excluded.

It would generally be part of a rightaway which would not be normal in the actual overall impervious calculations for a site. So that would be a different set for those calcits based on the actual rightway piece. Okay. Um understand my notes there. I was curious about why the grading definition only applies to um construction of homes and not construction of other things like hospitals or grocery stores or whatever. Isn't that grading too?

We can update that then actually include all types of building. Okay. Um, in the definition of the homeowners association, it says um it's estab uh incorporated the nonprofit established by the developer or by the property owners. um is is or what what we really want to say there

where they don't currently exist the homeowners have the opportunity to create one theirelves so we do not want to live that out so they have that option as well I g I guess what I'm thinking is if if it says or then it could mean that the homeowners theoretically the homeowners could never be involved It could just be something that's established by the developer and the homeowner would never That's exactly correct and that's exactly what we're living with in Chattam Park. So that's why that's why they need the ore there. I mean right now there is no homeowner representation in Chattam Park.

Okay. So So ore protects that. Okay. Would protect it or excludes them from each other but allows for both. I mean if you but I don't think Ann's appropriate, right? Okay.

Um and then another question about imperous surfaces. Um you explained the CABC, I think, but swimming pools and wooden decks are not considered impervious surfaces. I kind of understand the swimming pool part, but why is a wooden deck not an impervious surface? It still has the ability to flow through the grooves depending on how it's built. It depend depends specifically on the type of deck for that wood deck.

So, so I I had a wooden deck on my house and it rotted and I replaced it with uh a composite material. So, would the composite be impervious? I mean, is it different between those two? It is just like it would be if it was concrete and you had the different slab sessions. It's more about how much area before it can run off to the ground and it falls directly it. But a slab of composite and a slab of wood with a half inch space between them is the same as far as how much water's dripping through. Right.

It is. But we can add the composite, but we can't really add the concrete piece because they don't have that same Okay. Um, just in general, I I think I found it, but some some acronyms I had to look up. Um, that might be the end. That's it. If you ever see an acronym that I don't have defined out, please let me know because I've tried to make sure that they're actually part of that definition so that going forward people understand.

Okay. And under the mean C level, the the NFIP and the firm FIRM were not defined within there. The NFIP is called out for the National Flood Insurance on the actual definition. Right. I I found that. put the firm firm think we already have if that's not already in the actual definitions that will be one of the next ones I'll make sure we get that updated

thank you are there any other questions on the definitions items to Nothing else. All right. Um, I'll accept a motion then. I'll make a motion. We'll approve it with the necessary changes that we've added that you've added. Whatever we added. Second.

Motion from Freda. Uh, second by Connie, I think. Do we need Carrie? Do you need a um kind of rundown of what the conditions that we just Okay. So you Okay. Including Perfect. All right. Um all in favor say I I

I uh All opposed. passes unanimous and we will move on to item number four ZTA 20262 also Miss May I'll be up here for a little bit

we want to amend chapter 13 um specifically section 13.3 3 13.1.1 um and then move that to section 1.0 for the record of amendments. So right now all of the listing of the updates that have occurred is in the back. We want to move it to the front. So we make sure it remains consistent throughout going forward just like what you would see in a book when you do an update to the book. We want to do the exact same thing because that is the the preference to see where what current UDO you're on and whether it's the last amendment beforehand. That is the extent what this is for tracking. Makes sense. Move it.

Any questions on that one? I'll uh take a motion. I'll move to approve. I'll second. All right. Charity motion to approve, second by Alfreda. All in favor say I. I. Um, all opposed. All right. Unanimous. Item number five, ZTA 2020 63. Miss May. And

the next one is section 5.7, the recommended and invasive plant list. Um, currently some of the items in the plant list are not up to date because of the the changes that are going on with using adaptive plants and updating invasives or aggressive plants. We want to make sure it is regularly updated. So, we want to put it in the spec book instead of actually in UDO. Right now, it has um crate murdles in it and it has Chinese elm and they don't belong in there as in the planting schedule. So we want to make sure it's continuously updated and so we're taking it out and adding the language as noted to make it cleaner basically to say that it's going to go by NC do NCDQ and the North Carolina Forest Service for their their updated list and we will follow that and that will be their their primary and we will give recommendations and our spec on top of that when necessary. Just for clarification, this would be applicable to developers. Is it also applicable to individual homeowners?

If they were replacing it or if they just burn a buffer, it would be applicable. Yes. So, they would have the use of that to list the plants using regular basis. for example, Oakwood, that disturbance, they could use that list of refinancing. And are there any enforcement mechanisms if it's not followed? is currently in the um ordin the actual the other is it called it's just piece

the development but the actual enforcement in the code of code of ordinances excuse me it's actually where the enforcement piece is

and to add to it so for individual property lots not applicable to sub, you know, to a subdivision. Um, staff's not going to enforce the type of tree. But when it comes to reviewing subdivision plans, residential versus non-residential, we will be using the specifications as reasons to recommend or um require certain types of species or trees depending on on what's allowed per the plant list to just answer. So to get down brass tax, what happens if anything if I plant a tree that's on the list, my backyard?

So what I'm hearing is that that is in the code of ordinance. There is a portion in there that does have that in there, but we would have to be more specific in that coordinance and get it updated if we were going to go further than what's listed. Okay. Generally, they would come out and notify you. You have the wrong one there. But we have to be notified that's there first. No one's going to come walking through your backyard generally speaking. I should not said that. I just opened myself up. Would that be a homeowners association issue?

Somebody don't like him. Come. Look, he got the wrong tree. I'm going to tell it. way. It's not in this. So, we don't have I mean it's not that we have worry about No, I I that was a very good question though and how that applies, you know, applying to individual homeowners. Well, and that's what I've been asked by some of my neighbors is, you know, No, it makes sense. Yeah. Right.

Yes. Sorry. Hold on. Lauren add from an to enforcement um piece of it is the plan list is related to when we have de development come in subdivisions um when we're working with our engineering the engineering applicants uh their landscape architects for buffers for lot trees for street trees not individual property owners if you owned like we can't enforce that you it's do what you want but that's also related to your Hway covenant or your property management organization whichever you follow they might have more restrictive requirements than the than UDO has. But from this is more related to reviewing site plans or subdivision plans to add to that. But

the plant list can be used if you want to say, "Oh, what kind of trees would I like to add for my backyard?" You can use those if you'd like. Oh, sure. But that was just Okay, that's what I wanted to clear up. Thank you very much. to have for the state where the regulatory side was and then what recommendations that we would have if they choose this. Perfect. Okay, good. Have a I make a motion to approve it. All right. Second. All right. Motion by Freda, second by Christina. Um all in favor say I. I.

I. All opposed. Right. Motion passes unanimous and we'll move on to our final item number six ZTA 2026 04. Again m

um this goes to section 1.5 relationship to the comprehensive plans and subsections. What we wanted to make sure is that the plans are actually referenced in here entirely, which they were not before, and that any additional plans that were officially adopted would be included in the section for under our um comprehensive plan. And then the additional part for the um updates to transportation and the alignment with that with that transportation looks like because we know that sometimes it moves. We want to make sure it follows that language. So we want to amend the relationship, the official plans list itself and then the conformance with the acceptance of streets and extension of services to go with it.

Yes. Any questions on on this one? No. All right. Motion by Freda to recommend approval. I have a second. Second by Charity Christina. Sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you said it. Um, all in favor say I. I.

I. Um, all opposed. Passes unanimously. Move on to department updates if we have any. Oh again um development services um planning engineering um right now I have a list of additional UDO updates that are coming next month. It will include conservation subdivision, more definitions, annexation, and two or three other smaller pieces that go with that as well, and some transportation items. Um, in addition to that, um, we have two more projects on the list that potentially may be coming in as well. That is from development standpoint, from staff, of course. Um, Lauren is helping lead the planning side, so helping get through the project, so you'll see a lot of her as well. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Right. Um board comment period. Does anybody have anything they'd like to share? I just like to say thank you so much to staff. Um I know a lot of these uh these UDO uh updates require a lot of time and getting these done are certainly certainly something that we needed. um you know aside from the project reviews. So uh I really appreciate the hard work. Thank you guys. Thank you guys. Um all right with that I'll have to take a motion to adjourn. A motion will adjourn. Second.

Motion by Ria, second by James. All in favor say I. I