City Council - Regular Meeting

I agree. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

No problem. May 26th. May 26th. May 26th. May 26th. City Council made an order. Remind everybody to silence your cell phones. Mr. May is going to lead us in a letter of prayer followed by the pledge of allegiance.

Heavenly Father, we come to you right now with bowed heads and comfort hearts. Father God, thank you for your service to us all, Scott. Thank you, God, for your leading, your guidance, your shielding, your protection, Father God. Father God, I ask you right now to decrease each one of us on this podium right now to make the right decisions for the city. Father God, we thank you that we give you all the glory. Amen. Thank you, God.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you all for being here this afternoon. Thank you all for being here this afternoon. Thank you all for being here this afternoon.

Councilor O'Brien?

Yes.

Councilor Hanson? Yes. Councilor Wilcox?

Yes.

Councilor O'Brien? Yes. Councilor O'Brien? Yes.

Approval of items on the extended agenda. Approval to read by title only. Resolution 2026-18. Approval to read by title only. Resolution 2026-18. Approval to read by title only. Resolution.

Motion.

Second. Second. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Item number four, receiving requests from the general public. Is there anyone in the public who wants to speak on something that is not on the agenda? Okay. I want to speak to this place. Let's set your name and address for record.

1402 South Byron, Butler Parkway, Wintercroft, to be on it. You can go to the portion you brought that. But I'm still waiting on the paperwork on the land that we asked for. Mr rickard rickard is saying they're just as if it were to john or we've not heard anything back from him. On a piece of property, we're talking about that we discussed earlier yes. And he keeps saying I got a junkyard I don't have a junkyard kind of a fair show. And I've done like numerous calls and calling him over at his office and nobody comes back. Ms. Sheridan had me and asked me to call him. She called me and said he'd call me and he never called.

I have no idea what's going on. What property is this?

A piece of property right down there beside my shop from B&B Auto Repair. Ms. Jessica Younger at Ray Curtis said she sent you a piece of paper, said y'all lost the deed to the title or some of the deed or something to the land. Y'all had to figure out what to do to it.

This matter was supposed to be handled ever since last year. Is that the one that they said we had to do the abandonment process and we couldn't just deed it over?

Right, that if we were turning over, it would go to the neighbors. Yeah, we did. And then he could possibly buy it from the neighbors, like all the, all the, um,

I was approved. I can buy the piece of property. You were approved by them, but the way that D was titled or whatever, it had to be done through an abandonment process, where each touching owner would get... I'm the owner of B&B Auto Repair. Each owner touching the piece of property, where their portion that they're touching would get half of it.

Right, and going down the line, however many owners there is, gets to about 15 ways.

Yeah, well, at first, I'm going to buy it all the way to the front to the back, and then give the church her piece. But we couldn't do it that way, so I just said I would buy the piece that's ranch under by me and just let them deal with that one. Is he able to do that, John?

We have to go through the complete abandonment process to do anything with it. That'd be on the city. Probably have to get the survey and all that.

No, you are correct.

We said it has to be borne by the process.

It has to be borne by the person seeking abandonment. Like Antioch owns a big part of that, but then there's, I think, two or three other neighbors who would have to, I mean, they will have the property and they could possibly sell it to him or give it to him. But Antioch is the largest owner of it, but there are like two or three other owners.

I feel like this was two years ago, not last year.

It's been a while. And what that left him with was such a small strip of land And I understood that there was like, it was considered.

It wasn't worth doing.

It wasn't worth doing the process because it didn't give him over the land the way he had hoped. I hadn't heard anything else that there was any other request. This letter, you say letter?

Yes, Ms. Jessica, I'm here to send you a letter.

That was explained and had to be done by the abandonment process. Okay, she sent a letter stating that?

I guess it's a year and a half to a year ago, but I'm pretty sure it's been a year ago because I almost got kicked out from the guy that went in there with me. And I got him on a fraud case. I got an investigation on fraud. I went through my shop because he made me sign paperwork I wasn't even there to sign. So I got a case on the fraud going on with all those other stuff. The sheriff's department.

Billy, was that the sortie guy that was here with you before? Yes, sir. Who I believe at that meeting was saying he was the owner of the property.

It was supposed to have been in my name, but somehow him and the bookkeeper went and electronically signed my name to a bunch of paperwork.

I wanted to bring that up because I remember Mr. DeSorte came here the last time Billy was here and said he owned the property. Yes, he did. I was going to work with John going through the abandoned property. I just wanted to bring that up.

to find out he got an illegal electronic signature. But then I got him through fraud case to the sheriff's department right now. Does the city- Are you the clear owner of the property now? Yes, sir. You believe so? No, no, I am. I got the deed now. Okay. I showed everybody from the deed when he jumped straight. Okay, just checking.

Does the city own any of this property?

The city owns a strip that goes from 19 to i think it's what's that bright street clicker it goes right through the church so i was going to buy right by the road and go all the way back and i'm just going to give the church their part and went through the church it was an alleyway yeah because across the street they bought all their alleyways i was just going to buy the whole avenue but i remember that

I can get a cost estimate of what the process would cost the city. I can get a cost estimate of what the process would cost the city to go through the abandonment.

I believe it ended up leaving him like a six foot strip. It was something very small.

This was... How wide is that strip? Like 20 foot? I don't get it. It's one of your 25 seats. So it's like, I mean, even with the, even with that, it's like a fixed apartment.

They want me to put a fence up, and I don't see why I was obligated to put a fence up when nobody else has to put a fence up. Fence up where? They want me to fence my whole property. They want me to fence my whole property in where you can't see it from the highway. I mean, if I was John Hart's buddy that goes down and sits with him, Jason Campbell, there wouldn't be nothing said. They do.

They watch you put a fence up.

Bruce Griffin.

And this is from the highway. It appears on a number of cars.

Let's try to stay with this. Let's quit it. We're not going to get anywhere doing that.

I'm just saying, I don't understand why I should have to put a fence up. Nobody else in this town has to. I mean, I told you guys, I'm going to shoot. I will be fair and do what everybody else does, but I'm not the only king pig. And then the other day, they flew a drone over my place and went to take a picture over my place with a drone. They can do that. City Police Department. Because I went down down there and seen everybody flying the drone.

Sort of, I know they can do that. I didn't know. Thought I was evading your privacy.

Jamie, you want to?

Yeah, but I'm not going to get into a debate with him.

No, no, no, we're not.

So yes, the drone was flown to survey the expanse of the cars. Okay. Anything visible from the roadway, we can use the drone to look at it, as long as it's not a residence. We'd have to have a search form for residence. Okay.

So is this an issue of the same cars being there No, it's not.

No, it's all new ones. They're all there, every one of them. Yeah, when y'all asked me to clean up, I cleaned up, and I got new ones. You got a parking lot review on a scene now.

Yep.

This will cost me almost $5,000 with the parking lot review.

Are you starting to get your parks in?

I mean, the biggest thing is, the biggest thing I am, I'm a repair shop. So I tear engines apart. Then we have to order the parts. We have to let cars sit until we can get the parts in. But we have to tear them apart, diagnose them, and figure out what's wrong.

But you said earlier that it was second yield longer than normal.

Well, there's, I let one go today that was discontinued. I told him, I said, and it sits sitting here because the parts are discontinued. We just put it up on the record. We took it into the house and put it in there. I mean, I'm just the one person. I put motors in every day.

I just wondered that you were getting your cars.

It's still hard to get parts from a lot of units.

So what are you going to decide it for?

He went and talked to me the other day. He just went and put this on the fence. He said, come to my door. We'll put it on the front door. I asked him, I asked him, I reckon not putting the fence up, not being a compliance. I thought I was being a compliance. I moved the cars and everybody stayed and just kept, cleaned up and kept doing my thing. I mean, that picture out there, you can see that picture in cars, half of them, three quarters of them waiting on them.

You didn't have the pictures, the drawn pictures by chance?

I don't have access to them now, but we would. If I knew this was going to be brought up, then I would have it prepared.

Why don't we attend to this next meeting? Okay, we're just watching. We're all sitting here giving us thanks. Yeah, please.

But you need to go and do new pictures because I've done redone the parking lot. Because the pictures he got, I already had it scheduled two weeks to get the driveway done. Are you available to do that?

Yeah, by the next council meeting, we should be able to do that. All right. Thank you.

Can I ask a quick question? Are you being told to come to court the first Monday in June?

I didn't know you had a date on that notice. Monday, June the first.

Yes, okay. You're on the agenda for next week, next Monday. So what are we doing? who's been coded for violation of storage of inoperative motor vehicles, storage on private property without the fence area or building that's required, and different code violations of our service station by shops or used car locks. Pretty much the same thing from before. We just can't have all those inoperative vehicles lining the street. business I used to have. And I just wanted to know if he was going to be in MasterCard next week so that we would know if it would be the city's desire for us not to have a hearing on it.

That's what I'm asking. What can we do about that? Until we get this part done, is there anything that we can do for him not to be summons in court on the first?

I mean, we can potentially take it off the calendar or at least still hear it so he has an opportunity to come back with what's being said in zoning court and we can ask for it. They always have, we almost always typically give people up to 31 days after the hearing if they're found in noncompliance to comply before they get fined. But he already is, I believe this is your second at least. Yeah, but I already got a fee. So you already have fined and stuff, but at least that can be heard and that information can be brought back here. Okay. So whatever decision is made, if it's determined that he's in violation by the magistrate, then they typically have 31 days to, or 30 days to come to compliance. So he would also be able to come back here before that issue happens. And I can inform the special magistrate that he's also been before the board and they're trying to figure out what happened with the whole opportunity to abandon or sell the strip. So I can let the special magistrate know. Okay.

So I guess on the January 1st meeting, we'll have all the newest evidence.

Yes, the newest pictures. Okay. All of that information. Okay. Very good. And if the council would like, I can forward that to you all as well. The pictures or whatever is trying to help us.

Do that, that's a new video, new picture.

Right. There's always new pictures. I was asking the day of pictures as well.

John, if this frame was edification or mine, maybe anyone else would find it useful. That alley shows the ATV with seven touching property owners, adjacent property owners. And so the maximum he could get, there was only two property owners, would be nine feet. Right in front of him would be this square. Nine feet, if I'm not mistaken, would be very difficult to fit a vehicle in, even if you put it sideways. So is the abandonment even a realistic option? Like, that's why we didn't pursue it.

That's why we didn't pursue it before, because it's not, it didn't give him enough space to do what he said he wanted to do, which is having more space to put more cars on. Because right now, and there has been some change, I've just visually seen it, because the cars are still along that, they're not as many, but they're along that pathway of the highway. So that's, and I understood he understood that too, because he wasn't satisfied with how little space they would actually give him.

And that's not Florida law. Is it city code or is it Florida law?

I think it was something in that specific deed. It's not like a fee simple deed. It was some kind of...

I thought it had something to do with city abandoned property. I thought it was for a statute that gives each individual property owner equal rights to purchase or be deeded if you're abandoned.

That is also part of state law. Abandoning by is the abandonment of an alley. It's particularly described as an alley space.

You can't deviate from that because it's a state law. But most of the kids, in my mind, if there's two adjoining property, one adjoining property, I don't even know, is nine feet.

Yes. Unless you contact the other to try to get a piece more, but it's still not a very good piece.

All right. We're going to address this at the first meeting, or else they're going to address it again at the City Council. I'm too late to reach now, so... We'll look at that.

Abandon it. All right. So that's surveying. And then you have seven different deeds we've got to write up and all that. It wasn't going to be cheap. No, it can't be. How about that kind of surveying?

Does statute allow us to pass those costs along to people getting the property? Well, definitely be passed along. That was a discussion I had.

That was a problem. The six other people want their piece. So they carry the frontless costs for nine years.

They said, you don't abandon that. Or does it give the other owner the right to get all of it?

No, no one has the right to get all of it. But I have to go back and look at the notes.

I don't know how that would work. I mean, you could always, you could do anything to anybody. You won't figure that out. I have to accept it. I guess you would just go ahead and beat it to them. I don't know.

I have to go back and look at our notes from March 2025. At least that's what I'm thinking.

There was something I took longer in the county or the city where the I think it was the road. The county didn't ever accept it, even though it was dated to them. They never let us accept it. The board did not belong to them. All right, we're gonna revisit this at the next capital meeting and also at the magistrate meeting on June 1st. We'll go from there. Anybody else wanna speak on something that's not on the agenda? Hearing and seeing, number one, we'll move on to . All right, general business, agenda item 6A, council to discuss contract for land on Plantation Road and council will take any action being necessary. I think you put it in here. Summary.

We had until June 1st to enter in a contract. All the results came back fairly good or about as we expected. A little high iron, but we kind of knew that. Just like in the last meeting, y'all heard from Amir that Soine River Water Management District came to us and was concerned about private wells within a mile radius of the site. So there's about 120 or so private wells. I don't know that I believe there are 120 private drinking water wells that are active right now. I know there's some in that area for irrigation. I'm not concerned as much as they are about the drawdown. We did ask for a two month said she wasn't very happy about it, but the landowner said she would do it if we put an additional 30 grand down.

Over 30 grand for the purpose for us? Yes.

It's just a non-refundable deposit. We already have the 10,000 non-refundable if we don't execute either the contract by June 1st or this extension.

So it'll be 40,000 cash and plus?

We're already close. We'll be close to 100 by the time all the drill and the the testing will be done. How deep did they go? For the test well?

Yeah.

I think it was right around 160 feet.

There's not a private well at 160 feet.

I am a mechanical engineer, but I can't speak to this. It has something to do with submersible pumps and non-submersible pumps for private wells, that if you draw them down by a couple extra feet, they can't get the head pressure. So it wasn't about the 150 feet. It was taking a foot or two from the private wheel.

This contract, I'm on page one. And it says, well, I guess, let's see. Maybe it's on the wrong line. The seller is Karen Curtis. The purchaser is the city of Perry, John Hart. If you go back here in 327, the seller is Weir. The buyer is Webb. And if you go to the last page, John Hart's buying it.

That's the agents.

That's the agents.

That's the agents. That's the agent. That's where you signed it. I understand what they're trying to do.

But how to clean it up?

Who ever prepared this?

That's what's supposed to be there. That's the brokers. That's what's supposed to be there. This is the seller's associate and the buyer's associate. That is the agents that have the contracts. That's the buyer's agent and the seller's agent.

Did we survey this? We're going to. It was surveyed. They had a survey already. They had a survey. What about title insurance? We can do all that in closing.

Where we need it, but it doesn't. We need a budget amendment first, and then this. But that's not a big deal, what it comes into.

And we've beat this thing to death. I think we just need to go ahead and buy it. It's the best location we're going to find.

And I'll make that motion. Vice-Chief Graham, move forward with the first. Do we have a second?

Second. Councilman Barnes? Yes. Councilman Hampton's absent. Councilman Whitbaugh? No. Vice-Chairman Landry? Yes. Mayor Guthrie?

Yes. 10-9-6. The white camera representative to give a presentation on cameras. Okay. I'll tell you what.

It's my fault. My wife had surgery. I've been out with her. I didn't get that arranged.

It's okay. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. Be true. Thank you. Thank you. 10 out of 6C, council to discuss a five-year capital program and council to take any action being necessary.

I think the only change I made was I took the flock cameras off until y'all figured that one out, until we figured that one out.

Jamie, under CAD system, well, of course, a software upgrade is a million dollars. Is that hardware and software or just software? That was in anticipation for a change that's not going to happen. Okay.

We may have an upgrade expense of $15,000 to $20,000, so that'll be it.

You said you took the cloth camera. I just took it off. Did you ever figure out why it got added? Why it got added? Yeah, because we were trying to figure out why it was added on the current budget. That was the question.

Not on any budget. That's just a wish list. That's my wish list.

So currently he was asking for the $61,000?

I mean, that's not really asking for anything. That's what I would like to get done in the city over the next five years. But then when we get the budget, that's what we're really asking for this coming up year. That's like a green plan and budget is reality.

So at 61, you're asking to be in the current budget down the road. That's what you're saying?

Possible.

Okay. So did we ever get to the point of who gave permission to put the cameras up? We haven't spent any money on it. I don't think that, I'm not saying about money. I don't think that was the... question about money. I think it was more so who gave permission. That's where we were trying to get down to the bottom.

I'd have to ask my attorney if that was a council decision or that's a trial. We're not entering into a contract. We didn't spend any funds on it, so I don't know what the harm of a trial is.

I guess we're boiled down to this.

If you're looking for somebody to question about this, it'd be me.

No, we, first of all, we were just trying to get an understanding. It wasn't about pointing the finger at anybody. We were just trying to, we are getting jacked up by the constituents. So we're trying to get information.

I will give you what I recollect on how this happened, and maybe this will help answer this question. Tuesday morning meeting, we talked about the flock cameras and a trial. And the discussion was, if it thinks it'll work and we're not going to spend any money, let's go ahead and start a trial. It was like a discussion amongst several people. There wasn't one person saying, let's go ahead and do it. It was a discussion. If it will be beneficial, it's a tool for law enforcement. If it's a trial, we're not going to spend any money. Let's see if it's going to be working for us before we go to asking for money. It's the way the discussion started. Yeah. So ultimately, I'm the one who called the company and said, hey, we're going to do a trial. No money. Yes, we'll do it. Trial doesn't start until all the cameras are set up and running. know and include park cameras because that's something we wanted is surveillance in the parks for the damage we've been getting and the issues we've had in parks and so they have a camera that's not part of the license plate reader program that they have as well that can be included in this package yeah there's not only places that happen oh no i know seven not saying

Right, wrong, or indifferent, I'm just saying.

Have we got some up in the county? There are some just outside the city, yes. Recording vehicles that come into the city, yes.

And scattered all along the highway.

And there are some cameras that don't belong to us or the sheriff's office in this county, too. And I don't know who those are. Yeah, they're just random. So they don't have to ask permission? Nope. From the state, I guess, or the feds? If it's on private property, the state doesn't have to use the permit.

I've seen it on the right-of-way, that's not.

Well, if it's on the right-of-way, the state is giving permission for it. And the state agency wouldn't have as much of a problem getting a permit for something like this.

I guess the car society wouldn't need one.

No, they wouldn't. They would still need the permit, but the streamlined process is a little easier, probably.

It's on a federal highway, maybe. I'm not sure there's federal money paid for those. I'm talking about a permitting stamp. Oh, yeah, true. I don't know.

I could be wrong. There's things that happen at that level that we don't need to know about. Got it.

All right. Anything else on the CIP? I was going with the last week. I didn't get a chance to thoroughly review it, but I think they changed it back to what they had asked for originally. Okay.

The first five years at 100%, second five years at 75%. Did you get a chance to look at it?

I did. It did change it back to Tim versus kind of placing on all the units. And they incorporated the intention to complete more than phase one. I do have some recital language I would like to add to address. the history of what's happened to reflect on a request last week to make sure that the prior agreements that were done through resolutions in particular would not come back to bite us in the sense that we, where I would suggest we include an acknowledgement from, they keep calling things city commission or city, but city council, those resolutions, did not involve any written agreement that was executed between the city and the developer. Also, it brings in 2022, and that the city, and it recognizes the city developer's desire to move forward with the new clearly defined performance-based economic development incentive, and define that it, you know, it's in keeping with promoting economic development, but that it supersedes all prior resolutions, discussions, and understanding related to the incentives And then both parties are saying that they're not, that those prior resolutions and discussions are no longer valid and cannot be enforced. Because I believe it was City Councilman Bryant who was concerned that in the future, there may be some potential litigation where they're expecting specific performance or damages based on what was not done in 2016, 2017, and 2022. but particularly 2016 and 17. And so I want to include those as part of the recital that we include that history that this supersedes everything and there's no other obligations noted under the prior agreements. If you all agree to the 10 year incentive rebate as they defined outlined by John Hart in the last meeting or the last several meetings regarding working with prospect requirements.

You know, you email me or maybe email everybody. I don't know about what I did with diesel gas appliances. Email everybody. If we were to redo those incentives, would they be willing to put gas appliances in the apartment?

He said too late. That's the question.

Well, there's a bunch more of them. There's another apartment that's going to be built.

It said, not sure why we were so hung up on natural gas. If they reinstated the original agreement where they would provide the piping and infrastructure, we could look at it for phase two, but that was killed when Taylor removed that.

So they would consider it for- Is there a place on that document for them to sign? Yeah, on the agreement, yes.

Is there a place for them to sign I did not look at this. Let me look down at the city. We've had so many drafts.

Yeah.

Easy, right? Yes, it does. Time to answer your question.

but we don't do anything until we get a good document.

You can accept it as amended by the city attorney or wait until she has it prepared. They're kind of waiting on us. They can't get there. Long closing done until this is done.

Thank you.

Bye. Bye-bye. And there's only deals which are property tax. Yes.

Great place for the Lord.

And whoever told them this is what we're going to do, we've got to get the language right in the contract agreement.

Yes, the question is, do we want to wait until the documents are completed, or do we wait until the documents land and wait until the next painting is working? Correct. So it will be a pleasure for the board to do that.

I'd like to have the document, but I also don't want to hold them up.

You already have the language you're adding?

Yeah. Well, I have to change a little bit of it, but I sent it to you. I know both of us are out of town this weekend, so a little more of that. So I just thought we would just add it.

Then you just go ahead. Can you get the document put together and have this emailed out? I can do that. And email it to all the council. Does that work? Yeah, I think. Say something along the lines of

agreements approved pending email review by each council member or majority of council members. I don't know. It's kind of tricky.

It is.

Well, some of y'all both know, and then some of the other ones are the ones that agreed to it.

Regarding the agreement as it is now, because what I'm including is our recitals to just go over the history. Is there any question regarding the, I think this is like the third phase of an agreement. Is there any specific about outside of the recitals, which I was going to include regarding the history to make sure that everything is numerated and that we were bringing this to precede everything. There's no outstanding obligation. Is there anything else in the agreement that anyone has questions or concerns with?

Yeah, I feel almost like we've broken outside of the meeting. We probably should not do that. Sorry, what did you say, Aaron? I couldn't hear you.

I was asking if she could have it finished up by the end of the meeting, that you guys could read it in the meeting and approve it.

Is that a possibility?

Yes, I can just take what I just said here and include it. The copy, did everyone get the copy of this red line? Only because I didn't get a physical packet this time. I thought maybe no one did. Does everyone have the physical part of this red line?

You read the line in the old one, right?

Yeah, I read the line in the old one.

I don't think I included it in the packet because it was from the old contract and not the new contract.

Let me make sure I'm not looking at my agreement that I read the line that I like.

OK. No, this is from . for May 1st.

Should have been the day after the last council meeting.

And agenda 9 and 6A is going to have to do with this also.

Yeah.

So would there be any problem with us moving on to the rest of the agenda?

Yes, let's do that. I may be looking at my red line that I sent John from the last meeting to include in theirs and I thought they incorporated it. So if I'm not looking at the right thing. Do you have a hard copy?

If we really want to get it done tonight, what we could do is adjourn and then reconvene once you get done.

I just want to make sure I have the right file.

That's what I'm getting at, to make sure everything's the one.

Do you have any physical hard copies with you? The one they sent? Yes, I got no packet for this meeting. It was only the electronic email. So next time. Yes, if you could hold off. I may have to still hold off. All right.

We got a hard cut. Anyway. The next slide to basically

held off for a second. I'm sorry. I guess both the agreement authority and the resolution, if you could hold off and let him give me a hard copy. I just want to make sure I was looking at the correct thing because I responded to the last agreement with a lot of red lines and additional things. And the copy I have is the red line copy that I thought they incorporated. So it may take a little bit longer to do that.

Or if we want to make sure not to do it in a hurry, we can just do it on the next day.

I would be more comfortable with that. I just wasn't trying to delay to delay. Sure. Not getting a hard copy and not getting, looking at my red line copy that I thought they were in agreement with.

I'm in agreement with what you're saying. I don't want to delay it either, but I also don't want to get a problem. We'll do it in 10 years. It's going to last for 10 years. Okay. So shall we just table items 6D and 6E to the J9 meeting? Okay.

Do you have my information? Yeah. Here? Happy New Year. ACA. Oh. Yeah, I'm a blue tag. ACA. ACA. Wait, I'm here. I'm here.

Do my best to stay healthy.

I'm here for you. I'm here for you. I'm here for you. I'm here for you. I'm here for you.

So, next meeting. That way we don't have any copters that are going around and just make sure it all gets, just we're going to continue to make sure to look around. So, anyway, in item 6F, council to discuss interlocal agreement for local option gas tax and council thinking the action being necessary. This is It states, except by the county, is that right?

Yeah. State collects it, and then I don't know who comes up with the formula. I don't know if the state comes up with it, and we split it up with the county. It's what, 70-30? It doesn't have to be updated every five years, is what LaWanda said.

It's an agreement from the county, isn't it?

Yeah. Yeah. The county is not giving up one red cent.

I actually wanted to pretend that 31% said no. I don't have cents anymore. Anyway, we have any discussion on this?

I'll entertain a motion.

Motion.

Second.

Councilor Barnes? Yes. Councilor Hanson is absent. Councilor Woodbulte? Yes. Councilor Landry? Yes. Mayor Kittredge?

Yes. Agenda item 6G. Council to discuss any mandatory evaluation. Council to take any action if necessary. I'll give the first to say I've been guilty this morning. I'll turn it in.

There we go.

Yes. I'll turn it in. Promise I'll turn it in by Thursday. for you as a . All right, agenda item six H, approval of minutes for the May 12th, 2026 regular session. in the next meeting.

I'm the one in there?

Sorry. This one.

Yes. We'll leave it to you tonight.

All right. I want to see the manager report pass.

Hello, youngs. over here up on the board and girls club. And he said for 1,350 bucks, he'd re-stripe this parking lot here on the south side and on the east side of Better Memorial Park. That's where he's doing all the, I think it was two or three handicaps on that side, two or three handicaps on that side. Sounded like a good price while he was already over here in this area striping. But I might let y'all decide.

How much?

$13.50.

Where is this?

At the Veteran Memorial Park. Oh, okay. That's the parking lot on the south side and then this parking area on the east side right across from the Boys and Girls Club.

And they just paid the front and they're going to strap it next week or two, I guess. Today? Tomorrow? Hey, really?

That's good. I really need it. Okay. Okay.

Do you want to make a motion on that? Or do you need one or just a motion? Motion to do it. Okay. By the gas tax. A motion and a second.

Mr. Bruns?

Yes.

Mr. Higgins, absent. Councilman Woodbaugh? Yes. Councilman Landry? Yes. Mayor Ketchum?

Yes. And just to clarify, this is the city's parking lot. It's not the board's or the girls' club's. Anything else, John?

Last week, last meeting, we asked for Lieutenant Smith. We asked for his firearm, and two people said yes, and the other two never really said anything. I'd like to have a third one.

Isn't that customary?

It is.

It's customary for y'all to approve it? Yeah.

I just need y'all to say yes.

If you approve it, we would actually get a transfer done through a local farm dealer. I see.

I have a motion. All right. We just need to say yes. Okay.

So, Mr. Barnes? Yes. Mr. Hicks in the back there. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. Right. Nothing. Right.

And I haven't looked at a lot, but out there where I live, there's some telephones that's stolen, destroyed, and they're still there, but they put a new one in it. I don't know if we got authority to take that old one out.

I don't know what you're talking about now. Didn't you? What did you tell me they're abandoning them? You talking about little federal ones?

Some of them they are. Some of them we're just knocking over and not fixing them. Yeah. I don't know if we do or not. I know there's been a lot of, in other towns, there's been a lot of talk about the same thing. They call it wire. Oh, there's a main board, just a bunch of wire hanging around, laying at the bottom of holes. Junk, I guess you could say. And what towns can actually do to make it, or make anybody do anything about it. I don't know what kind of jurisdiction we'd have, but whoever. Yeah, whoever they, they can change names on things. Didium or something. I don't know if that's what I stood up for. That's all for the landline stuff, I guess. You can ask them.

I think they're all over the place like that.

They are.

Yeah. There's some utility lines that are sagging lower, too. The old Comcast lines there. Then you can, then a four-year-old can grab them. Oh, yeah.

Some of our stuff being used. I remember laying on the ground, three or four fellows lying on the ground. They'd say, I'm going to send you an order for you, John, to be the chair of the rest of the council. Somebody sent me a letter. Why are police here? I thought I was supposed to get a hold of them. Apparently, it's happening all over there. Not that it's a matter of that or such.

We talked earlier about refurbishing some of our parking lots. And we've got some that are in sad shape. I was just wondering if there's any way we can get some of that done. Which ones? The one behind Spunky Sparrow.

That one's going to get redone with the CDBG grant.

And the one... over here, next door to the building.

That's going to get redone with the city. When? They're 99.9% done with the design and engineering. So we should be going out to see them, I don't think, in the next couple weeks.

It would do a lot to enhancing the city, the way it looks, because right now, especially the one by Stumpets Stair, it's got all those rocks or broken concrete or whatever it is up there. It's not good.

three or four city parking lots, and then redoing all of them in the downtown area.

Yeah, thank you. Now, that involves resurfacing some roadways, Austin.

Southern roadway to the parking lot.

None of those roads are going to be busted over to do this main water line that's coming down to Harrison. It's not part of that project. Thank you. You've got the tariff sidewalk, the mouth roadway. Surely we're not paving something. Wow. That would be really bad.

I guess the bid would include fixing it. And Jefferson wasn't part of the ones that were repaving. So most of the damage from the water line will be on Jefferson. Part of that bit is fixing back everything they destroyed.

There's going to be a lot of that coming up.

Yeah.

It just might be smart to have the engineer look at it.

They talk and both know what's going on.

Two things in certain order, the max module.

Yeah, but it is two different engineering things.

I had a list of things, but I said, I said, you better get over this curve here. They better let you go first and look at it. I've had a lot of work, months worth of people talking to me about things, but the only thing I do want to mention is, what? Form 1, the ethics forms, the financial forms. Everybody needs to fill it out. Y'all still do the same one, right? Yeah.

The easy one?

Yeah.

Easier one?

I think I started doing my form six when the email came in. That's all I had. So thank y'all.

Okay, thank you.