Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Très bien. Bonsoir. Paris, Californie. Bienvenue à notre présentation et à nos discussions de ce soir concernant la prochaine. Mesure C, laissez-moi afficher la bonne diapositive. Toutes mes excuses. Oh là là. Très bien, c'est parti. Allons-y. Je m'appelle Ryder Smith. Je travaille avec la Ville pour fournir un soutien en communication et en affaires publiques en les aidant dans leur travail de communication et de sensibilisation et je vous remercie tous de vous joindre à nous ce soir pour participer à cette conversation communautaire. Nous avons plusieurs membres du personnel qui sont disponibles ce soir pour répondre aux questions. Je vais parcourir une présentation d'environ 25 minutes et si vous avez des questions, nous aurons une méthode pour vous permettre de les soumettre. J'ai d'ailleurs quelques questions en attente qui ont été posées lors des réunions en personne de ces derniers jours. Nous les poserons donc au personnel de la ville, puis nous clôturerons notre soirée. Attendez-vous donc environ 20 minutes de présentation ce soir. Une chose que je tiens à dire d'emblée, c'est que nous ne présentons que des faits aujourd'hui et c'est vraiment à vous en tant qu'électeur de décider comment vous souhaitez voter. Nous voulons simplement nous assurer que vous avez une compréhension claire des informations et du contexte, ainsi que de la façon dont cette mesure est arrivée sur vos bulletins de vote pour que vous puissiez l'examiner. Nous ferons donc de notre mieux pour répondre à ces questions et vous donner les moyens en tant qu'électeur de voter en toute connaissance de cause lorsque vous recevrez votre bulletin. Également, une petite note, cette réunion est enregistrée pour beaucoup de personnes qui regarderont ceci, peut-être pas ce soir, le 9 septembre à 18h, mais à une autre date ultérieure, à l'approche du jour du scrutin. Cette vidéo sera publiée sur le site web d'information sur la mesure et mise à disposition comme ressource pour la communauté jusqu'au jour des élections. C'est pourquoi nous l'enregistrons et deuxièmement nous avons une fonction de questions-réponses activée. Si vous souhaitez soumettre des questions, vous devriez voir une petite fenêtre de questions-réponses en bas de l'écran. Si vous cliquez dessus pour soumettre vos questions, nous les mettrons en file d'attente de notre côté et je m'efforcerai d'y répondre moi-même ou je les transmettrai au personnel de la ville afin qu'ils répondent à vos questions à la suite de la présentation. Je vais brièvement passer en revue les services et projets municipaux sur lesquels nous travaillons pour la ville de Paris à May. Ensuite, j'aborderai le budget, puis je passerai à la mesure C, qui est la mesure spécifique soumise au vote des électeurs de Paris pour l'élection de novembre prochain. Nous parlerons également de l'impact des entrepôts, un élément de contexte important de la mesure C basé sur les rapports du personnel et les commentaires du public. Et enfin, nous répondrons à vos questions. La ville de Paris est une ville à service complet, ce qui signifie qu'elle contracte une gamme complète de prestations pour servir le public. Nous sous-traitons les services de police et de pompiers. Par ailleurs, nous gérons en interne nos propres services de travaux publics, parcs et loisirs, urbanisme et logements. Parmi d'autres services, en tant que municipalité, nous nous efforçons de fournir toute une gamme de services aux résidents de la ville de Paris. Le gouvernement municipal, comme toutes les villes de Californie, utilise la comptabilité par fond. C'est différent de la comptabilité traditionnelle des entreprises du secteur privé. La comptabilité par fond permet de créer des enveloppes de fonds, de fonctionnement, de recettes et de dépenses pour isoler ces fonds et établir un budget global. Comme dans la plupart des villes de Californie, le Fonds Général est la plus grande enveloppe budgétaire, finançant les opérations quotidiennes comme la sécurité publique, le personnel municipal, les loisirs et les centres pour seniors. Le budget du Fonds Général de la ville s'élève à près de 90 millions de dollars, soit 9911 dollars. This is the budget for the year 26-27, starting on July 1 and ending on June 30, 2027. The city has launched many major initiatives focused on municipal infrastructures and investment projects. We are making substantial investments in public safety. On the $90 million of annual receipts and expenses of the general fund that I mentioned, 40 million are invested in our police and firefighters services. We are also investing $15 million in a new fire station for the south of Paris. The city is actively trying to promote economic development to attract restaurants, services and entertainment for the community. They also invest in a revitalization program of the city center by supporting small businesses, a professional training center, our Paris Valley Chamber of Commerce and other services aimed at revitalizing and promoting the development of the city. In addition, our parks and leisure services are always very appreciated by our community and arouses a strong engagement from the public. This helps us to finance our concert series. We have set up a new forest guard program to strengthen the security of our parks The city also offers a center for elderly people, currently in the process, which is not the case in all municipalities. It is an additional service, appreciable, offered by the municipality. Of course, throughout this process, many investments are made within the community, with funds entrusted to the public, and the city recognizes the importance of being transparent on this subject. Thus, the city has a real-time financial information platform, offering better internal control and better access to data. And to be completely transparent, you can go to an open government portal to consult a considerable amount of financial information made available by the city with all sorts of interesting tools to create charts and graphs to examine the details and understand where the money from the city goes. According to my experience, only the most passionate about local management like to search in there, but everything is easily accessible to residents to explore and understand how the city invests the resources that are entrusted to it. Of course, as I noted, police and fire services represent a major area of investment for the city, because calls to these services continue to increase considerably. Our calls to the police and firefighters are at a high level, and we have increased our firefighters and police officers to respond to both a growing population due to the expansion of our neighborhoods and the general increase in demand for intervention. We are seeing more and more in the cities of California that the demands imposed on our firefighters and police officers as frontline personnel are increasing, as well as the variety of problems they have to solve. And without surprise, this leads to additional costs. We have seen our costs increase by more than 33% and the expenses linked to police and fire protection have doubled, as shown in this graph. This again shows the importance of investments and priorities granted by the municipal council to public safety in our community. This graph also reflects this even more, as I mentioned, about 40% of the budget is allocated to the police and firefighters or public safety. If you look at this graph, you will see that the police represent 28% and the firefighters 12%. The rest of the graph reflects the general fund's impact on other services that ensure the functioning of the city. Thus, our public and engineering work teams focus on our streets and major infrastructure in the city. Our development services focus on new communities, planning and other development-related services to allow them to build and monitor their construction activities. And of course, we have our financial team and our IT team who help support all the functions at the city hall and the various other services indicated here. And of course, as always, all this was adopted during a public process with our budget document which is available online. Now we have talked a lot about the city's expenses and I would like to briefly draw your attention to the way the city is financed. There are three main sources of income that determine the financing of the city. The first is the tax on sales and use, and it is practically common in all the cities of California. This is the main source of income. The city has recently known a reference base, I think it's 7.75% tax revenue on sales and this figure is used as a starting point universal for our sales tax receipts in the entire state of California and the city recovers a little more than 1% of this amount to support municipal activities. And in addition to that, the voters of the city of Paris adopted measure B in June 2026, and this measure added an extra cent to help support the activities of the city's general fund. And so on these 9.75%, a little more than 2% are currently collected and reimbursed to the city of Paris to support the operations of the city's general fund. The city also perceives part of the land taxes So imagine, let's say, a house of $1 million that pays $10,000 a year, or 1% of its estimated value in tax. Thus, for these 10,000 dollars paid per year, in tax, 940 dollars out of these 10,000 dollars are in reality reimbursed to the city of Paris. The city therefore recovers a little less than 10% of all taxes paid. The rest of the tax revenue is paid to the state of California or to the county of Riverside to finance their operations and activities. And finally, the city receives a tax on cannabis. It is raised to about $1.6 million a year. This amount is in decline, partly because there are fewer points of sale and, in general, we have seen a drop in global revenues linked to cannabis throughout the state of California. So what is the Major Segue, the very reason for our discussion tonight? The Major Segue offers a tax on commercial licenses going up to 10 cents per square foot for all industrial warehouses and manufacturing sites outside of e-commerce, having a heavy weight activity and a surface area of 50.0 square feet. There are many things to discuss, which we will do as this presentation progresses. But the key element to remember is that the tax can reach 10 cents per square foot It specifically concerns industrial warehouses and manufacturing sites outside of e-commerce, generating heavy-duty traffic defined here as a vehicle of more than 5 tons and whose surface area exceeds 50.0 square feet. I will explain some of these nuances regarding the reasons why the Municipal Council established these political directives by adopting the measure during an open public session. Fundamentally, it is important to note that this tax is structured as a tax on commercial activity. It is therefore not a tax based on property. It is based on the nature of the activity carried out within the building imposed and on its surface. On the screen now appears the exact text of the ICMJCGME that will appear on the ballot. I'm going to take a short break to allow our audience to read and quickly assimilate this information before coming back to discuss it. Very good. The first thing to note is that you are limited to 75 words during the writing of a question for a ballot, because, as you can imagine, the available space is limited. These texts can therefore be a bit dense to read and there is a complete web page with many detailed information that we will make available at the end of the presentation. However, this results in a rather dense language. I will therefore try to clarify all this. La question fondamentale posée est de savoir si la mesure, sans taxes pour les résidents, et avec tous ces détails, doit être adoptée. Vous devrez répondre par oui ou par non. All the details first focus on what would be financed, public services such as 911, public safety and street repair. All this indicates that this is a general tax intended to support the municipal general services which are part of the general fund as I explained previously. It establishes a tax on commercial licenses going up to 10,000 per square foot for industrial and manufacturing companies. Note that this is a tax going up to 10 years per square foot, and we will come back to it a little later, but for the most part it is designed in such a way that, without opposite action, the tax will be 10 years per square foot, then adjusted annually, with an annual increase of 3%. Cependant, si une supermajorité du conseil municipal choisit de la réduire pour des raisons économiques ou d'autres opportunités, quatre membres du conseil sur cinq pourront voter pour réduire la taxe à un autre montant. Ceci a été motivé par un certain nombre de facteurs sur lesquels je vais revenir. Finally, it is expected that this tax generates $ 2.5 million per year in revenue for the city's general fund. And like all other city receipts, it will require total transparency. These information will be available on the OpenGov portal, they will be integrated into the budget and the funds will have to be invested in the city of Paris. Moreover, an underlying conversation took place simultaneously concerning the many concerns of the community on the state of the streets in Paris. And according to the exchanges within the council, the general discourse focused on the fact that, while the councilors were discussing measure B with the community, many questions were raised about the state of our streets, why they are in a difficult situation and how we can improve them. The city staff was therefore charged by the municipal council to explore this subject. And their exploration, through the city's engineering team, resulted in these basic information elements. They carried out a survey and first of all, I would say that there are corridors in the city reserved for the circulation of heavy loads. Large trucks, such as semi-trailers weighing more than 5 tons, are generally supposed to circulate on these axes to leave the highway, reach warehouses and other facilities, then return to the highway. On these corridors, trucks represent about 5, 1% of all traffic. And because of their size and weight, trucks generally have three times more impact on roads than a classic car. In short, this means that trucks represent about 15.3% of the physical impact on the city's road pavement. The city estimates to need about $16.4 million per year to maintain roads, including truck corridors, on the basis of $40 per square foot on a 20-year cycle. Thus, maintenance of the 130 miles of road of truck corridors requires about $16.4 million per year. Based on the previous calculation, or 15% of the physical impact, the personnel report concluded that trucks represent about 15.3% of the total impact on these 16.4 million, or an impact of about 2.4 million dollars per year. This is the essential figure to remember. The complete report is available on the information page of Measure C. But this is a public debate on the nature of truck impacts on the streets and their financial consequences. So why does the city propose a tax on storage spaces and activities? To give a little context, warehouses play a major role in the economic development of the city of Paris. There are currently 34 million square feet of warehouses and industrial spaces in the city, already completed or under construction. Nombre de ces entrepôts ne sont pas liés au commerce électronique, ce qui signifie qu'ils ne génèrent aucune recette de taxes de vente locale. Comme je l'ai noté plus tôt, les revenus de la taxe de vente constituent une part majeure des recettes finançant les opérations municipales. Parallèlement, ces grands entrepôts génèrent un trafic important de poids lourd. Là, en fait, ils créent des demandes et des contraintes qui ont un impact réel sur nos rues. En rue, ils engendrent des besoins en gestion de trafic et imposent une demande accruant en service d'intervention d'urgence dans ces zones d'entrepôts. A question constantly comes up, you hear me talk about electronic trade stores compared to others, and you will notice that the text submitted to the vote indicates that electronic trade stores are exempt from this tax. This therefore deserves a discussion on the distinction between electronic trade and non-electronic trade. Fundamentally, most of the warehouses in Paris do not include e-commerce. They therefore do not generate any sales tax receipts for the line. They can pay a commercial tax or land taxes, and certainly they pay land taxes. And the city of Paris recovers 9.400 per dollar for this, as well as initial impact fees for construction. But that's all that concerns the income base generated by warehouses not linked to e-commerce. However, e-commerce stores, in this proposed measure, are defined as stores whose revenues and points of sale are located in the city of Paris, which means that when they sell anything in the city of Paris from these stores, their revenue from this sale is subject to a sales tax and this sales tax revenue is actually reimbursed to the city of Paris. and the city receives its share proportionally. Thus, consequently, there are five electronic trade facilities in the city of Paris where, when they sell something from their warehouse, the point of sale is well within the limits of the city, and these five warehouses generate to themselves, alone, 6 million dollars of revenue from sales tax for the city each year. This probably gives you a pretty good idea of how these particular facilities already contribute substantially to the general fund of the city of Paris. And because of this contrast between e-commerce stores generating $6 million a year in sales tax and e-commerce stores generating none, the municipal council sought a way to find a continuous source of income for e-commerce stores thanks to truck trips to help finance repairs and other general services in the city. Thus, due to the way in which the measure has been developed, the facilities intended to pay this tax on warehouses are distribution centers, truck parks and industrial enterprises with more than 400-600 square meters of space, relying on indoor storage, outdoor storage or large trucks and store activities . And to be clear on this subject, the reason for which a threshold of 4-600 square meters was established, according to public archives and discussions of the municipal council, is that they wanted to ensure that this tax focuses on large companies and not on small companies located in the city of Paris. They therefore opted for this standard of 4-600 square meters and more. And as previously noted, a large truck activity means a truck with a gross weight of 5 tons. Il ne s'agit donc pas d'un camion, comme celui d'un petit électricien circulant en ville ou d'un camion de plombier transportant des services de plomberie, des tuyaux et autres. Nous parlons de gros camions lourds et substantiels qui circulent en ville. It is therefore he who will pay this tax on the warehouses planned by measure C, who does not pay. Well, the residents do not pay. It is not a tax on the residents, the owners, the shopping centers or the apartments. It is not also a tax on small traditional local businesses, merchants or restaurants in the city center. In addition, electronic shopping centers, which already generate substantial tax revenues on sales, as I noted previously, are no longer obliged to pay this tax on warehouses. Thus, as indicated, the measure should generate about $ 2.5 million per year. The calculation is based on the 25.2 million square feet of non-commercial storage in the city, with a rate of 10 years, which represents $ 2.5 million of revenue generated annually. This is a general tax, of which 100% of the receipts will be paid to the city's general fund. The funds can be used at any legal end for the city. For the city. This generally concerns 911 emergency services, police and firefighters, street repairs and chicken nests, improving public safety and supporting small businesses. Lors de l'élaboration de cette politique par le Conseil, une certaine corrélation a été établie au niveau des chiffres. Si l'on considère que 2,5 millions sont collectés annuellement par cette taxe et que le coût annuel prévu de l'impact du trafic des poids lourds sur les routes est également d'environ 2,5 millions de dollars par an. De plus, par la loi, tous les fonds doivent rester à Paris et y être investis. Et ils ne peuvent être récupérés par l'État, le comté ou le gouvernement fédéral. In order to offer a certain long-term stability for the storage industry and tenants, there is a 3% or IPC ceiling on the annual increase in the rate. Thus, assuming a 3% increase next year, the rate would go up to 10.300 per square foot after an adjustment of 1 year to 3%, for example, and would continue to evolve from there, ceiling to this 3% figure. All receipts generated by this measure require that the municipal director prepare a detailed annual report for the municipal council and the public, examining the applied rates, the collected amounts and the administrative costs. All this activity is subject to the annual independent audit of the City in order to ensure total transparency. This measure will appear on the November 3rd voting bulletin. It is a general instruction. En tant qu'impôt général, il faut que 50% en plus une des voix exprimées soit favorable à son adoption. Si 50% en plus une des voix vote, non, il ne sera pas adopté. Et vous, en tant qu'électeur de Paris, vous aurez la possibilité de commencer à voter à ce sujet début octobre lorsque les bulletins de vote par correspondance arriveront dans votre boîte aux lettres ou votre boîte postale. Vous pourrez alors envoyer ces bulletins par courrier, les déposer dans un centre de collecte ou vous rendre en personne pour voter si vous le souhaitez. Très bien. Comme je l'ai mentionné, nous allons passer à la phase de questions-réponses. Si vous avez des questions, nous serons heureux d'y répondre. Vous pouvez simplement cliquer sur le bouton Q&R en bas de votre écran pour nous soumettre vos questions. Comme je l'ai dit, j'ai quelques questions qui ont été posées auparavant et que je souhaiterais éventuellement poser aux intervenants. Laissez-moi juste m'assurer que je vois toutes les personnes connectées et participants ici. Très bien. D'accord, je vais commencer par quelques questions qui ont été posées précédemment. Et je vois notre équipe connectée sous le nom de Bryant Hill, là-bas. Merci, messieurs. Je sais que John est en ligne. Et je sais qu'Ernie Reyna, le directeur municipal adjoint, est également en ligne. Alors, Ernie, si vous êtes disponible, je vois que vous activez votre micro. C'est parfait. Oui, je suis là. Merci. Je vais couper ma caméra.

Parfait. D'accord, je suis là.

Merci. Vous êtes élégant, Ernie. Okay, I'm here. So, the first question I would ask is, and thank you. So, Ernie Reyna, you are municipal director for the city of Paris? Yes, that's right. Thank you, Raider. Yes, absolutely.

So, the question is, how will the city know who to apply this tax? Yes, I think the presentation you just made was really exhaustive on how and who. The way it's going to work is that it's a tax on commercial licenses. Thus, when these companies come to renew their licenses, they will have to provide information on these warehouses. You mentioned a few exemptions for e-commerce below 50,000 square miles. There will be a whole set of information criteria that we will have to examine and you know, planning has already provided information on many of these buildings to which it will apply. So it's not everyone, and if it's about e-commerce, they will be exempted, as we mentioned, but if it's about a large warehouse that generates large and measurable truck traffic, then yes, the tax on the commercial license will be applied to them. And this will work by taking the surface of their building and, as you mentioned during the presentation, by multiplying it by 10,000 square feet, and this is how we will get the annual amount they will have to pay. And this only applies to the criteria that we have listed here. They will therefore have to present themselves on an annual basis in order to renew their tax on the commercial license. They will have to provide this information to our security and construction site. From there, the tax will be evaluated. It is therefore a bit like that that things will happen there. Okay, very good. I appreciate it.

And then another question that was raised just to make things very concrete for the people of the community and this nuance between e-commerce and non-e-commerce or distribution stores in the city. What are some examples of an e-commerce installation in the city that pays the sales tax compared to an installation not linked to e-commerce in the community that does not pay sales tax and which is only a distribution center?

Yes, that's a good question. I think you mentioned in your presentation. I'm sorry, my dog barks outside. I think you mentioned that there are about five installations that do e-commerce, so there are not many. So help me, John or Kenneth, if you are online. We have noted which ones it is, so if they generate a sales tax, we will exempt them. So, John or Kenneth, are you online? Are you online? John is here. John is online. Go ahead, John. You are aware, aren't you? These facilities, which are they?

There are about, yes, I think Ferguson is one of them that does e-commerce, to my knowledge, and there are four others. Yes, wait, there is another one.

Wait, there's another one. Wait, yes, Ferguson, Wayfair, that's right. These are actually points of sale, as you indicated, and Rider. Correct. So to bounce back on what John said, here's what happens if you go into the installation itself or if they are able to generate a point of sale where they say, okay, it's recognized here in Gray and that it is not only used as a transit place, then it is considered electronic commerce because it creates an order to pass here in the city, which is then processed. So it's the difference between an electronic trade installation and an installation that is not, for someone a little more important, and I don't know of other installations, maybe John can help me on that. An installation not dedicated to electronic trade, what would it be?

Some Amazon centers, I think Home Depot is one of them, which is not a point of sale. It's just a logistics center.

Yes, that's right. And the biggest difference is to know if they are or not. Correct. If it is more of a storage facility where they keep stocks that only transit to another place without any purchase being generated, then it is considered a non-commercial center that does not generate sales tax. So that's e-commerce. And that's the major difference in this sense, according to this definition.

And so, for life to identify e-commerce, we will know partly thanks to the declaration of sales tax, right? Because we will know where the points of sale are.

Exactly. And I know, as I mentioned earlier, that in the report of the staff provided to the municipal council, there was a list of facilities that contained the applicable measures. And I think we also included the list of these e-commerce companies. So that could also be there. But the definition of what constitutes an installation that would be taxed is clearly established and everything is there. You can therefore actually list them. And the net amount, I think we talked about it, is about 25 million square feet. So if we deduce that from all e-commerce, we are at about 25 million square feet taxed at the moment. This could therefore increase. But for the moment, we are counting on about 25 million. This is where the 2.5 million come from.

And if a warehouse is empty, for example, if a tenant leaves, does the tax continue or does it stop?

At this stage, the tax would stop. And John, correct me if I'm wrong. So if they are no longer active, they no longer renew their tax on the commercial license, which means that there are no more trucks coming in and out of the site. The tax would therefore stop at this point, because it is now a vacant building. John, can you tell us a little more?

That's right. Lorsqu'ils ont un locataire pour ces entrepôts, ils doivent venir demander une licence commerciale. À ce moment-là, nous saurions quelles sont leurs activités, s'il s'agit de points de vente ou d'un centre de distribution. Et nous pouvons également procéder à l'évaluation à ce moment-là. D'accord. Et une autre question qui est revenue plusieurs fois concerne la formulation jusqu'à PU, n'est-ce pas ? Currently, the text provides a tax of 10 years for the first year and up to 10 years or less until the council decides to reduce it. What was the discussion on this subject to explain why the ceiling was set at 10 years but could theoretically be reduced with, to be clear, a super majority? So it would be necessary that 4 members of the council out of 5 be there? Yes, that's an excellent question.

You're right, as it is written, it is set at 10 years. But if the economy suddenly had to change and it became difficult for these companies to pay their 10 cents, the Council has the possibility, as you mentioned it, with a super majority of 4 members out of 5 to say, you know what? Maybe $100 is not the right amount, let's reduce it to $800 or $700. They can lower the amount, but they cannot exceed $100. This is what this means. They therefore have this capacity to adjust according to the current economic conjuncture. This is the current situation, but for now it is set at $100 per square foot.

Yes, and I think a connection point is that if they had fixed it only at 10 cents, the only way to adjust it in the future would have been to go back to the voters for a new electoral measure. And that's right. It's not a very effective way to manage city operations, is it?

No, we want to offer flexibility. You're right. By doing this, we can lower if necessary, then go back with a vote at 4.5 cents, but never beyond 10 cents without going back to the voters. So at this stage, it is fixed at 10 cents per square foot.

And I suppose there may be a downside to something you said. This ceiling is at 10 cents today, but it is adjusted to inflation. Theoretically, it will continue to increase over the years to this ceiling.

And you mentioned it during your presentation. The ceiling is 3%. So if we do our calculation on the IPC, the price index for consumption, and we find that it is, you know, 4%, we will not go beyond 3%. We will not go beyond 3%. This is the maximum amount that will increase every year, but it will increase to adjust to inflation. And it's important because cuts, of course, increase every year. And our municipal engineer, John Prokos, will tell you that a large part of these materials that we use to repair roads increase every year. So having a price index at consumption of 3%, a ceiling to be able to adjust, is an important thing for us. So it's a good thing to have in there. Very well, okay. This increase of 3% is in a way the average of recent years.

And that's what he anticipated. Okay, perfect. Well, thank you for allowing me to ask my specific questions. These were quite representative of the questions I heard over the last two weeks when we had the opportunity to present in person during the five workshops that we organized in the city. We went to each district of the council and then we had one at the Hôtel de Ville as well. And we had excellent conversations with other Paris residents. I don't have any other questions submitted at the moment, so I will move on very quickly and simply note that the city has a whole website dedicated to discussion on Measure C and has tried to provide as much information as possible. It's on cityofparis.org. If you have any questions about this measure, on how it will be deployed or used, or on what the tax applies to, or any other question regarding the measure, you can simply send an email to majorca.cityofparis.org and someone will answer you to answer your question. And finally, if you have questions for which you want to speak to a real person or something like that, this phone number on the screen, 951 953 51 943 53 50 37 is at your disposal. This will probably fall directly on a voicemail and the city's public relations officer will call you back to answer all your questions. Sur ce, nous arrivons à la fin de notre soirée. Je vais laisser ceci à l'écran brièvement et simplement dire que j'ai vraiment passé un très bon moment à travailler avec la ville de Paris sur ce projet et à rencontrer les résidents. C'était agréable de voir vos installations et d'apprendre à mieux connaître la communauté. Et j'apprécie l'intérêt de chacun pour ce sujet. J'espère que vous avez trouvé ce webinaire instructif. I am very grateful to the city staff who joined us tonight, as well as to the investment and transparency of the municipal council on this issue to try to communicate with the public.

On that note. And Raider, I would also like to say thank you for all your help. You have done an excellent job by presenting this information. It was really clear and factual, so thank you for that. Thank you, I really appreciate it. It was great to work with the team of the city of Paris.

I wish everyone a great evening in Paris. Stay cool. There is a wave of heat at the time of this recording, so take care of yourself, make sure to go vote. Have a great evening. Goodbye everyone. Good night.

Thank you.

Goodbye.