Council - Regular Meeting

Thank you.

July 8th, 2026, the time is 530. Welcome to all members of the public for being here with us. And I'll ask everyone to stand and join us in a moment of silence. And Councillor Farrell will lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. A reminder to all council members to put your microphones on. Madam Clerk, will you please do a roll call?

Mayor Kidman?

Here.

Vice Mayor Farrell?

Here.

Councillor Hettinger? Here. Councillor Hammond? Is here. Here. Thank you. Councillor Preller?

Here.

Councillor Roundtree? Here. Councillor Kojen?

Here. Item number three, community recognitions. We don't have any scheduled for today. Item number four, consent agenda, four items. City council special one meeting, city council special two meeting, city council regular meetings, all from June 24 of 2026. And then the NTUA wireless service agreement amendment.

I move to approve the consent portion of the agenda. Second.

We have a motion from Councilor Cogent and a second from Councilor Preller. Any comments? All in favor, say aye. Aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Any opposed? Thank you. Item number five, public hearings. We have one liquor license for Lake Powell Espresso. So I will open the public hearing if anybody wishes to address the council on this liquor license application. Seeing no comments from the public, I will close the public hearing for Lake Powell Espresso liquor license. Item number six, hear from the citizens. We did not have any blue cards today. So item number seven, 7-1, the mayor's reports and announcements. I was going to share on three things. to the public. Since our last meeting, Senator Gallego was able to come up to page and visit with a few of us from the community. It was not a situation where it could be a public meeting, so we had to limit the council members in the room to three, and we had some Chamber of Commerce people and city staff. It was a short meeting, but it covered several items. From my perspective, the two main ones were the second water straw, the redundant water source project, which he has been supportive of, both in letter and signing, and also on the fast reconstruction of the north rim damage from the Bravo fire of last year. That is moving forward, and he also shared with us some Bipartisan bills that he's been working on to help with housing issues as far as those little colored stickers for different classifications of homes and Councillor headings are probably understood that a little more than I did that's more in her area, but he It does appear that a lot of stuff is happening, and we're going to keep in touch with Senator Gallego's office to get as much help from him as we can. And then the second item was our water team update, which we have on the last Monday of every month. And I didn't bring my specifics with me. Things are moving forward with contract writing for the environmental and engineering specs. That portion of the project from... of the intake structure that will be located in the chains area. So that is moving forward at a very nice pace. And then my third thing was going to be the 4th of July comments. I was going to thank everybody for how wonderful the 4th of July was. I know that you're probably going to comment on 4th of July, are you not? I'm going to let Frank do all the talking on the 4th of July, except that I thought everything was wonderful. I enjoyed it very much. And that was all I had for Mayor, so I will turn the time over to City Manager for current events.

thank you mayor members of council of course the the big event was uh the fourth of july festivities i want to thank all the council members that that came out and we we had a i think a pretty successful event from the data we could find from Adam and Jacqueline, our marketing folks and tourism folks. We estimate at Page Park over the course of the day, we had over 4,000 visitors to John C. Page Park for all those course of events. We had 47 parade floats this year and 56 vendors in the park, either selling their wares or food vendors. Just a great time. We had the watermelon eating contest and the hot dog eating contest and some water fights. It all seemed to be pretty successful. Of course, then we had the fireworks at night at the golf course, and that went off pretty well. It was, I think, a little bit over 30 minutes long, and that was entirely put on by... city staff. So for all those events, you know, I can't thank enough especially the park staff. They spent a few days setting up the stages and things and then worked from 6 a.m. Saturday to after midnight and then came back Sunday to tear everything down. We had the special events team doing everything from cooking hot dogs to arranging the parade. And special thanks to the mayor, too, for the red, white, and blue cones to help keep the kids safe. We had a lot of good comments on that. I want to give the mayor credit for that idea. It seemed to work well. We had, of course, fire and police. worked the entire weekend couldn't do it without them just the incredible amount of overtime that they put in and everything was was much appreciated keeping everybody safe even public works chipped in this year and folks from the community center chipped in just really every department in the town was a part of it, and I couldn't appreciate that more. And what we've got going, we think we had about 500 people or so using the buses, about 1,500 at the fireworks celebration. or more because we can't really count everybody at Gateway Plaza or along Scenic View Drive that gets mixed in with some of the folks at the hotels and things if we're using the placer data for that. But just I think a tremendous success there I do want to mention if folks are looking we hope to get out some online surveys coming up pretty soon to kind of tell us how we did maybe what people liked what they didn't like what we might be able to improve on next year while it's still fresh in everyone's mind so we're doing that as a internal staff But we also want to open that up to the public. So our marketing team is going to maybe put out some of those surveys online. So look for that as we move forward. And we'll see how we can even improve it more so next year. Just a couple quick notes. We've got a ton of events coming up, so check our website and apps for those coming up. I won't go over too many. We've got a few more movies in the park. Makerspace Open House at the library coming up on the 15th. And then... some events at the Para Club coming up. So again, check our website and our app for that, and we'll be announcing those. And I think that's it. Just again, an overall success thanks to all the volunteers and staff again. Was this the first year that we had Starlink for the emergency personnel? As far as I know, yeah, we had Starlink running. We had both drones up in the air. Thankfully, we didn't really need them that much. We hope to get some data from those as far as crowd sizes, too, that they can use some of their photography. And we got some video. Couple traffic issues that we had over on Hall Road. Turns out the rodeo let out the same time we were busing people back over to the sports complex. So we'll take that into account and see. We've already developed some strategies for working on that and seeing how that worked. Maybe take some considerations with people with... Mobility needs that we can maybe address next year a little better if we get some input to see how we can address that and Some items like that to see how it goes Thank you Item number eight council liaison liaison reports on board meetings.

Did anybody attend one since our last council meeting? Kenna our counselor heading jerk

Thank you, Mayor. The Parks and Recreation Advisory Board met on Monday, July 6. We had a citizen come speak about Little League. And although there were some difficulties this season with the facilities, they were very complimentary of our staff working with them as quickly as possible to make things work as well as they could. So I just wanted to take a moment to give a huge thanks to our Recreation Department for doing such a great job there and working with them to fix those issues as they came up. We also got an update from staff that the pump track is moving forward and they're in the design phase right now. It's currently estimated to be completed around the end of October. And then one of the items that the board discussed was an option for bringing additional pickleball courts to our city by putting dual striping on the tennis courts since we're going to be resurfacing all of those this year. The board had some questions for staff to look into, including whether or not our high school team can still host matches and tournaments there if we have that dual striping. So there's more research to do there before it comes back to determine if that's worthwhile, but it's something they're looking into. And then finally, the board retained our current chair, Paul Bachman, and our vice chair are meeting at Tenpenny.

Okay. Thank you. Item number 8-2, the council liaison designations. I did not realize that in July of every year, the first meeting, it is specified that the appointments for the board liaisons are supposed to take place during this meeting. So I'm going to announce those. There's hardly any changes, but I will read through all of them. I'm going to go ahead and stay on the annual meeting for the Public Safety Personnel Retirement System and the Firefighter Pension Board. Councillor Roundtree, I'll have you stay on the Library Advisory Board. Kenna Headinger is on Parks and Recreation. I'll have her stay there. Airport Advisory will be Vice Mayor Farrow. The Economic Development Advisory Board will be Councillor Kojen. Substance Abuse Task Force will remain with Tom Preller. The Youth Advisory Commission is going to be Councillor Hedinger. And the Planning and Zoning will remain with Councillor Preller. And the Page Utility Enterprises Board, I will remain on that board. And it's a strange code. It says appointed every July for two years. Why does it say it that way? Do you know?

I did not write it. I don't know.

says it's supposed to be appointed annually but the term is two years so yeah we obviously need to make some changes there yeah so something needs to be updated anyways any comment yes counselor roundtree so um how do those appointments made i had spoken with you about that i had a conflict on the third thursday so i don't know if you remembered that i forgot about that i apologize um i'd love to stay on the library board i love the library board but i'm having i'm being involved with 4-h now and that's true and that's a little late huh for you okay um you know what i let's discuss and we'll figure that something out a change or OK, I'll have to come back to that. Thank you. Unfinished business number 9-1. I'm going to have to table this item. There is some concern between PUE and boundary specifications that we need to clarify before we move forward so that we don't have to redo something. So we'll pick that up next meeting for item number 9-1. Item number 10 of new business, number one, back to the liquor license for Lake Powell Espresso. Councillor Preller.

Mr. Mayor, I move to approve the liquor license for Lake Powell Espresso.

Do I have a second? Second. We have a motion from Councillor Preller, a second from Councillor Farrell. Any other comments, questions? All in favor, say aye. Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye.

Any opposed? Thank you. Item number 10-2. Coconino County Multi-Jurisdictional Hazard Mitigation Plan. Oh, we need to have, it's resolution number 1350-26. City Clerk, will you please introduce the resolution by title only?

A resolution of the Mayor and City Council of the City of Page, Arizona adopting the 2026 Coconino County Multi-Jurisdictional Hazard Mitigation Plan.

Say that 10 times fast.

So I'll turn the time over to Tim Carter for a presentation, and then he's going to have questions and answers before we do any action. TIM CARTER.

All right. Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council. Thank you for having me. My name's Tim Carter. I'm the Director for Emergency Management for Coconino County. I will say it is a mouthful. So it is the 2026 Coconino County Multi-Jurisdictional Hazard Mitigation Plan. I'm going to refer to it as the plan. So thanks for allowing us to come in and meet with you guys tonight. This has been a little over a year in the making. If you've been around in the past, this is something that we update as required by a lot of the FEMA statutes and federal law every five years. We really want to make sure we have that a valid FEMA approved hazard mitigation plan. So we have taken the option this year of doing an update to the 2021 plan. So much of the plan will remain the same. A lot of our hazards and we'll go through what those are by jurisdiction and kind of talk through that with you. Most of those are going to stay the same. One thing that I would say that always stays the same is the community involvement. And I want to start with a thank you for You know, the community had a couple of different opportunities to reach out and to let us know their thoughts and feelings on this plan. You know, the planning team was also made up of several representatives from all of our jurisdictions. So the plan is for Coconino County itself, as well as all the municipalities throughout the county, including the city of Page. So representatives from You know the police department fire department Public Works Etc was involved with this as well as the community So a couple of things we want to take a highlight on And mayor with your permission I'd say if there are any questions along the way feel free to ask and reach out You know happy to answer those as we go through But really want to talk about What is a hazard mitigation plan and Essentially, it is a plan that allows a community to come together to evaluate what risks we have for both natural and man-made hazards, and then we kind of start looking at ideas of how we can mitigate those risks. So we need to find out what's bad, and then how can we make the bad less bad, if you will. What efforts do we have? I will say, and I will tell you this a couple of times, there is no funding requirements for this plan, for any of the mitigation action items that are in the plan. require a jurisdiction to expend any funds. So we kind of take a Christmas wish list approach. So let's identify what hazards we have and then put those mitigation action items down on paper. That then allows us to go back both from the city and the county level to identify funding resources, whether it be from the state or the federal government or even local general fund dollars to see how we want to fund projects. The main emphasis of the plan you'll see is that third bullet point, and it's called out in the resolution as well. It's designed to keep the community safe. How can we lessen the risk of a disaster or significant incident to the impacts to our communities? But another reason why this matters, you'll see there it helps communities in Coconino County reduce their disaster risk, save lives and money, guide safer development, protect property. There's research to show, and this number varies a little depending on where you look, but on average for every dollar spent on mitigation saves about $6 for disaster response and recovery. So, you know, mitigation is a smart action to take. to be proactive in our thought process. So this plan really guides that. It's also, as I mentioned, required by FEMA to have a, for every jurisdiction to have a valid FEMA approved hazard mitigation plan. If you've ever had to go through the Approved the grant process of trying to secure FEMA funds for mitigation one of the first questions I asked is your jurisdiction have a FEMA approved plan if you say no most of the time you can't even complete the application so by coming forward having this plan adopted every five years and make some of those funding opportunities available for jurisdiction and But I think it really helps us guide our risk and identify, again, what are our top hazards, where do we really need to focus our approach and prioritize what limited funding we may have to get the biggest bang for the buck. Again, how does the plan keep us safe? One of the big things that allows us to do is we look at strengthening the infrastructure. You know, some of our plans and some of our hazards are, you know, maybe wildfire, flooding, earthquake, things like that. It's not necessarily mitigating those by saying we want to do, you know, floodplain mitigation, but also what are our building codes? Do we need to update our building codes? Are there things that the community wants to look at for that? And we've actually had some communities use the plan as justification to get federal funding to update their building codes, which then provides a greater level of mitigation, especially in those wildfire-prone communities further south. So one of the things that the plan does, in addition to being a overall countywide encompassing plan, it breaks out each of our communities individually. So it's got a community profile. It gives a little snapshot on the history of all of our communities, what makes them special, what makes them unique. So we put in some census and economic demographic information, population, median ages and incomes, things like that. But also, really, we take a look at What are the economic drivers for a community? So obviously tourism, hospitality for Paige. What does the workforce look like? And then what are some of the needs? And then we actually get into the ranking of the hazards. So you'll see here, these are unlucky number 13 hazards for the county as a whole. They rank all the way from the low, which is those green dots, based on the scoring metrics that we use. Anything with a 1 to a 1.9 is low. You'll see the chart all the way up to severe, which is the highest score you get is a 4.0. No surprise countywide, wildland fire is the largest risk that we face across the county. followed by flash flooding, debris flows, even some of our monsoon flooding that we see, not necessarily tied to the post-wildfire, but just, you know, strong monsoon storms creating flooding. Then on the other side of the coin, number three is now drought. That actually moved up a couple of spots, and then you see all the way down excessive heat, climate change, hazardous materials, and so on. But specifically for Page, I would say don't let the blue and green dots fool you. While these are still listed as low and moderate risk, they are still risk nonetheless. So you'll see there, and I'll take, you know, the second one, drought, for example, is scored at a 2.95. The number next to it, that 355, that is the Coconino County overall number. So this kind of gives you a little side-by-side comparison of all the hazards of which ones which when Page is a little bit higher on, a little bit lower on, and so forth. Because at Page, you'll see aviation accident is kind of right up there, even with the countywide. A lot of that is because the airport is growing and still remains pretty busy up here. A lot of folks that aren't from around this area or haven't done a lot don't realize how busy, how many aircraft come in and out of the airport. So that is something to keep an eye on, that we want to look at different ways to mitigate hazards there. So some of just the real key differences there. You'll see the county had a wildland fire of 4.0. but Paige is at a 2.15. No pun intended. You're not out of the woods yet. You know, and I think it's important to remember that, you know, wildland fire, what we usually see on the news, you know, it's only going to burn in the forest. You know, the big trees on fire, the impressive be real that we see for the media, but really those wildland fires occur more frequently, if not, you know, the smaller brush that we see. I mean, I mean, how many times do we see on I-17 if you're coming back up, you know, where the highway is closed, usually around the, you know, the bumblebee exit because there's been a wildland fire, those grass fires, those scrub brush, juniper, pinyon, those kinds of things. Trees that we see around here, vegetation around here, is still a very real possibility for wildland fire. So one of the things that we did this year is we created an interactive map. There's a GIS product that's on the county web page that we can make available definitely if the city wants to overlay on any of the GIS products you guys have. But we took all the data from the plan and put it in a usable database to where you can actually go in, type in your address, and it'll throw a pin on the map for where you live. And they really kind of give you what those hazards are for your independent, your each address. So these are some screenshots of the same information. From earthquakes, you'll see drought, interesting enough, kind of west of the river seemed to be a little bit more severe than on the eastern side. This kind of gives us base for page just on where that excessive heat impacts could be. Aviation accidents. And I will say the accident numbers that we have here for Coconino County, 14 accidents in the last five years. A lot of those are based on what the FAA considers an accident, which is different, again, than what we see in the media. If an aircraft comes in to land and has a landing gear issue or blows a tire even, they consider that. Anything other than a normal landing is classified as an accident of some kind. Hazardous materials. We did have to report on the pandemic in this plan because that was covered under the 21 plan, which we were kind of in the throes of COVID when that plan was created. So one of the things that you'll see in this document is there's a section that has the 2021 mitigation action items that communities came up with that said, this is what we wanted to do. We put those in this plan so we can kind of gauge the metric of how far we've come, what progress we've made. So since the pandemic was in the 21 plan, we went ahead and put it in the 26 plan as well. And then wildland fire. Again, kind of split by the river. No secret flooding along the Colorado River. We also have dam failure and one thing that I'll note on damn failure. You'll see on the map there it that it lists Lake Powell out here as a high-risk, Glen Canyon is a high-risk dam, not for failure, but based on it being a national critical infrastructure and just the importance of that structure itself classifies it as in that high-risk category. And then a couple of others. One just outside town, just east of here, and that was the old SRP. dam that they had out there, one of their retentions, and then a water treatment retention here in town. Both of those are classified as low risk and in good shape. Some of the others, you see power outages, climate change. Thankfully, winter storms are pretty low. But for the city, what are some of the key priorities that we noticed, the key trends that we saw coming out just for the city of Page? And you'll see them here. Protecting water resources and strengthening drought resilience. The second one is reduce flooding risk and improving infrastructure resilience. Enhancing emergency preparedness and response capabilities. And then pursuing mitigation funding opportunities. And I think through our conversations with many of you, those come as no surprise. Those are our goals, not just in this plan, but also through a lot of the other missions that the city is undertaking right now. Just very quickly to wrap up, again, why mitigation matters. We want to really focus on protecting the community's water supply and economic stability, reducing damage from flooding and severe weather events, improve our emergency response and recovery capabilities, and then positions the city to secure funding for future resilience projects. And last but not least, kind of the next steps. So there's two different ways that a hazard mitigation plan is fully approved and becomes actionable. One requires state and FEMA review and feedback and approval before local adoption. But based on the continued uncertainty that we've seen at the federal level with shutdowns and things, we decided to take the different approach of local adoption first. That allows us to have a current plan adopted before the 2021 plan expires in a couple of weeks. So this way, should the council elect to adopt, we'll take all the adoptions, send the plan to the state and to FEMA for review. Based on any feedback they have at that time, as noted in the resolution, we'll work with the fire chief who's been involved with lot of these four of these now will work with with him as the city representative should there be any significant changes that that the state or feds require us to make we can work with him and then he'll be able to report those back to council however you see fit whether it's an email or another presentation So again, these are our partners. It is Cook-Deno County, and I will say we were able to secure funding for this plan update through one of the FEMA BRIC grants. That project, we were able to secure the funding back a couple years ago, get the ball rolling, spent the last year working on this. I want to thank the County Board of Supervisors. They graciously provided the local match for the grant, the 25% local match in whole, so we didn't have to Try to pass that cost on to any of our jurisdictions or anything like that. So This is one of the services that my department emergency management is able to provide and kind of take the lead on but understanding that this is As much or more your plan and your feedback and participation than it is ours So again want to thank the council for the time Thank City staff and the community for the input and the participation and we're we're glad to finally get this before you for adoption

Thank you. Any comments or questions from council members? Councillor Kojen, we'll start with you. Kane, can you pull up our other two council members? Go ahead, Councillor Kojen.

I move to adopt resolution number 1350-26. Second.

We have a motion from Councillor Kojen and a second from Councillor Hettinger. I mean, sorry, Preller. Preller, I was just reading her name right here to see if she had a hand up. She can gladly have it if she wants a second. Councillor Preller, second. I don't see any comments or questions from Council. All in favour, say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed? Thank you. Item number 10-3, the Arizona Mutual Aid Compact. That's also a presentation from Tim Carter.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So this is one that I was talking to city manager, and he told me I had to keep it below two hours, so we'll do our best. Two and a half. Two and a half. So this would actually be very quick. There is no presentation for this, but I wanted to come and Just kind of present the information to council on the Arizona Mutual Aid Compact. And I will say kind of in short, given a description of what the compact does, for us at the operational level when a disaster strikes, this compact takes care of all of the the paperwork behind making sure that we need to bring in additional resources, who's going to pay for it, who owns it, can we recall it, all of the contracting and the financial side of it, if you will. It's a uniform agreement that is updated every 10 years through the State Department of Emergency and Military Affairs. There's currently, I believe, 118 at last count taxing authorities that are signatories of the compact. And the best way to describe it is, I'll give you an example that if Page had a flooding event or disaster event and needed 20 dump trucks to move debris, Page may have two dump trucks. A jurisdiction needs to bring in outside resources. You work through my office and our emergency operations center with each of you. I can sound the alarm to all of the other jurisdictions that are members of the compact and say, I need 18 dump trucks. can you send me the paperwork you'll notice there's one page in the comp in the agreement that's called appendix a that's a form that they would fill out that say the city of mesa can say yes we'll send them up there here's what it's going to cost it's done just very quickly send it up to to council you guys look at it goes yep we'll take it so it kind of takes all of the the insurance the liability the indemnification, all of that is handled in the agreement to allow resources to respond to an incident much quicker, much more efficiently, and usually much more cost effective. It can also be used for special events or really any Anything that the city says we need more resources, and that can be people, places, and things to serve the community in a public safety capacity, you can exercise the agreement and reach out statewide for those. Couple things that it does not do, it does not replace all of the other existing public safety mutual aid agreements. Fire departments statewide have a statewide fire mutual aid agreement. That is usually the preferred method for a lot of fire resources. This agreement could also be used for that. Where the AZMAC really comes in is it allows us to pull in resources that otherwise aren't covered under existing agreements. It's a pretty wide Does it really make us list specific equipment or specific resources? It's just kind of open that says we can share whatever we have, whatever that need might be at that time. I would say one other thing is since it is a statewide agreement, typically counsel or attorneys kind of look at it and they either love it or hate it because it's the same language statewide, so we don't really have to worry about a lot of wordsmithing between each jurisdiction. It's the same uniform agreement statewide, so it kind of makes their job a little easier.

Thank you. Any comments or questions from counsel?

Councilor Prowler. So since you're saying that this agreement is statewide, does that mean the hypothetical 18 dump trucks could be driving up here from anywhere in the state or is that still just limited to Coconino County?

It is statewide. They could come from anywhere.

Let's hope that doesn't happen. I wouldn't want anyone to drive 18 dump trucks up from Yuma or something. That sounds slow.

it it could take a minute uh you know that but i will say that's one of the things where um you know we're county emergency management where we really as the touch point with the state would come in to help uh we'll put that out there we'll kind of say okay yuma may have 18 but so does flagstaff or so does uh you know someone in the northern part it's obviously going to be a lot more efficient and cost effective to get those local resources than elsewhere but We do have the ability to reach out statewide if we need additional. Thank you.

Thank you.

Councillor Farrell?

Move to approve the Arizona Mutual Aid Compact and authorize the mayor to sign. Second.

We have a motion from Councillor Farrell and a second from Councillor Cogent. Is that what you had your hand up for or did you have another comment? Okay. Any other comments or questions? All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

Aye.

Any opposed? Thank you. Thank you for coming up here.

My pleasure. Good to see all of you again.

Item number 11, potential future agenda items. We have one for review at Lake Powell Boulevard safety. Amanda, did you want to read this?

You know what? I don't have it on my screen i just got one screen i don't have like a dual screen so if somebody else wouldn't mind reading it i would appreciate that i can have the city clerk read it thank you do you have it

Traffic studies consistently show Lake Powell Boulevard to be a high accident area in Page. While the old streetscape plan proposed to address this, it only proposed to address safety between North and South Navajo and did not address the areas where speed and lack of existing traffic control measures led to the most accidents and speed violations. Church Row intersection with Copper Mine and Hills leading away from the highway. Recent accidents, including a fatality and citizens' concerns sent to council, may make this a timely problem to address. Should council discuss this at a future meeting and establish a scope of study and action for the direction of staff?

Thank you. Quick question to staff. Is this something that automatically gets addressed? or is it something that council needs to give direction on? How do we approach this?

I guess the best way for me to put that is we're already engaging in seeking a safety study for this with our consulting engineers throughout the state. We intend to bring it back to council one way or the other for discussion. I think it warrants that public, I don't know if input's the right word, but that public process. So we'd be happy if council wants to vote it as a future agenda item. It's fine with me because we intend to bring it before council anyway.

And if I may, it just sort of aligns council and staff's work, right?

That's correct. So we'd be fully supportive however council wants to move.

I have thumbs up from the majority of council to bring this back. I see enough. We will ask staff to bring that to us at appropriate time. It'll be educational not only for us but for public. Thank you. Yes, Councillor Cogent.

Previous manager was told to order some of those radar signs like we have that flash the speed.

and it never happened you got a couple of portables for the police department but the permanent ones never happened i know that they were on back order multiple times but we'll have to bring that bring that to their attention thank you Okay, we have no executive session scheduled for today, so we have no other items on the agenda. I will adjourn this regular council meeting. The time is 6.13, our next regularly scheduled meeting, July 22 at 5.30. Thank you.