About this meeting
- Government Body
- Council
- Meeting Type
- Council
- Location
- Page, AZ
- Meeting Date
- March 25, 2026
Transcript
187 sections (from 463 segments)
I will call this meeting of the city council regular meeting March 25, 2026. The time is 5:30. Welcome to all who are here. Um we will begin by standing for a moment of silence and then councelor Hedinger will lead us in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. A reminder to all council members to put your microphone on.
Madame clerk, will you please do a roll call? Mayor Kidman here. Vice Mayor Pharaoh here. Councelor Hettinger here. Councelor Pller here. Councelor Roundtree here. Councelor Cojan here. Councelor Hammond. She was here, but here. Okay. Oh, I'm still here. Okay. Okay. Wrong pan. Item number three under community recognition, the the new agenda item that we're going to have each week. We have item three, one page attacks trash logo winners. And I think that goes over to Boston. Amanda Boston.
Yeah, you need to be at the podium. And Shannon Garrison also.
Hi. Thank you so much for uh allowing us to be here tonight. I'm joined by Shannon Garrison and Joan Yazy Piochi. We're all members of the page attacks trash planning committee which took over to keep this fantastic community program going after NGS started it uh over 44 years ago. They actually started this program in 1981. Um, and we did miss uh I think two during the pandemic, but overall this incredible community program has been an ongoing success for 44 years and we have won national awards uh for this program uh certified by former presidents. There's a lot of community pride wrapped up in this great program and we're excited to be the volunteer committee that keeps this program going. Uh we also have a lot of sponsors uh with Cookanino Community College, the city, Glen Canyon Conservancy, the Marriott uh as well as Lake Powell Resorts and Marinas, Dixie Ellis. Uh new sponsor this year is Fair Harbor, who are sponsoring the return of the after trash bash, which in addition to page attacks trash community cleanup happening on Saturday, April 18th. We will now also be having fun events in the park. We're looking for people who are interested in running activity booths and um information booths so that we can give people a little bit of extra fun on that day. We'll also be hosting a clothing swap. So bring your clothing to the park if you're looking to do a good old fashion swap as well as a house plant swap. There'll be live music from DJ Chuck Cervente as well as always delicious food provided by our committee and served by the Paige Elks who have been a huge part of this since its inception as well. We are so grateful. It really takes a community to keep this going and that's one of the reasons why we're here tonight to present our uh community participants uh with the page
attacks trash art contest which is the official art you see here on the uh poster. It's also on the t-shirts that you get for volunteering to clean up trash. And these are always members of this community. This year we opened it up to people of all ages. We got some incredible submissions that we will have on display at the townhouse. Uh tonight, however, we wanted to honor our first, second, and third place winners. Um and we were hoping to call them up here. We have a little uh gift certificate as well as a uh gift card. generously donated um by the nephews of Jeremy Butts of the Marriott which connecting communities across America. Those children don't even live here. They live across the country on the east coast and they've been sponsors of the page attacks trash art contest every year for the last four years. Four years. These are children under the age of 15 who have been excited to support this community as well. Um, so without further ado, if it's uh possible, I'd like to call up and we would love to recognize our winners this year and if we could get a big uh photo with everyone um if that would be okay.
We'll be fine. Yes.
Thank you so much. Uh, up first we have our first place winner, the creator of the lovely official art for 2026, Kira Key. Kira has actually won uh the art contest with Page Tax Trash before, as well as the official art contest for PA's 50th anniversary. We are blessed with some incredibly talented artists in this community. Second place this year goes to Kase Franklin, who's also here. And all of our winners tonight have their artwork on display here at the table. If you do have a chance to see it tonight, of course, if you can't make it tonight, please stop by the townhouse on April 18th. And our third place was actually a tie this year. We had a couple of really impressive digital submissions uh courtesy of TA Maze and Anj Grey Mountain. They unfortunately couldn't make it tonight, but please if you do see them, give them a big shout out. Uh thank you again for everybody who supports this ongoing uh wonderful program in this community.
Thank you. And the city also has some gift bags that they want to present to you to and then we'll all come down and join for a picture. Thank you.
Thank you. Oh yeah. come over here.
Um I think one of you want to go to the other side. We'll be even. Perfect. No pressure. All right. Awesome. Thank you. Good job.
Congratulations. Thank you guys so much. Thank you again. Item number 32, the Paige High School girls basketball state champions.
Megan, where are you? Is she here? Yeah, she's coming in. I saw her. All right, I saw her.
There she is.
Yeah, please. All right. Are we good to go?
We are. Good evening, Mayor Kidman, Vice Mayor Pharaoh, and city council members. My name is Megan Moore, and I am the proud athletic director for Paige Unified School District. I'm sorry for the sunglasses. I forgot my glasses, and I can't see anything else, so I apologize for that. First, we would like to thank you for the invitation. We truly appreciate that. Tonight, we would like to recognize the Paige High School girls basketball team and the leadership that made this season so special. Please help me welcome in the girls. All right, our Sand Devils are once again state champions. bringing home the golden ball and continuing a tradition of excellence that our community is incre incredibly proud of. With this victory, the program has now secured its ninth state title, making this team the second most winningest team in Arizona State history. So, that's a huge accomplishment. And truly, when people hear the word Paige, they think of girls basketball every time I'm in a conversation. And so that's a very huge honor that these girls get to carry. That reputation has been built through years of commitment, grit, and pride. And this team carried that legacy forward in a very powerful way. This year's championship run is especially meaningful because of all the adversity that this group had to face throughout this season. Entering their playoffs, our team had a 16-4 record and there was a lot of people who doubted that they could accomplish it. It had been a very, very challenging season. In
the month of December alone, our girls spent nearly 100 hours traveling on a bus to compete after losing our gym to water damage. When they finally returned home in January, our team played their only five home games in the middle school gym and adapting to these circumstances that were far from ideal. In fact, the only reason they even earned a true home playoff game in our new gym was because they were still ranked high enough to host the first round of the copper bracket. Despite all of that, this group never stopped believing. This season was filled with outstanding individual accomplishments as well. Taylor Franklin was named the 3A North offensive player of the year for her performance and her leadership. Tree Siny was named the most valuable player of the state championship game, stepping up in the biggest moment and helping lead the team to victory. And I would also like to recogni recognize our head coach, Coach Celeste Claw. Coach Claw never backed down from competing in the copper bracket, even though we knew it meant going through some really strong competition to get into that championship game once again. But she had faith in her girls and more importantly, she helped them believe in themselves. After a tough loss in the Copper quarterfinals, this team regrouped and earned their way back into the 3A bracket as the number two seed and then fought their way through the playoffs. To bring the championship back to Paige, they had to defeat two teams from our own region, teams that knew us well and compete with us every year. Coach Claw was named the 3A coach of the year for the entire state of Arizona.
What makes this recognition even more special is that the coach of the year is nominated and voted on by other coaches across the state. These coaches saw the way that she leads our program, the character that she brings to the game, and the pride that she takes in representing Paige. Coach Claw and this team represent the very best of Paige High School. resilience, belief, and pride in who we are as Paige Sandevils. So once again, please help me congratulate the 3A conference state champions. We're all good. Okay, we want to come down and get another picture.
And these two have bags to pass out to all of you. So if you want to pass those out while we're coming down. I don't know. Let's figure that out.
You going to have them stay there or come back? I guess they can just in order to get it narrowed up. We need two rows. Let's have one row on the one row on the step down and another row. I will cherish this. I love basketball girls.
And we have a signed a signed state champs thing to put on our wall here at city hall. Has it got everybody's name on it? You guys all signed it? Because if not, you need to come sign it. All right, everybody. On your tiptoes. Get a ladder first. No, I'm I'm good. I've got tiptoes. I'll find the window. So, I think we're have you guys over other. All right, here we go. One, two, three.
Very nice. Thank you. Good girls. I know.
Congratulations. Good job.
I have to slow it down. realize that's why they were rushing so bad to fix it. I just knew it was they haven't played and everything that they did. Yeah, they had a tough circumstance. Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you. My granddaughter is a freshman next year, but the rest of us We'll do it next meeting. We'll all sit here on the same shirt. Dakota's and her are engaged, right?
Thank you for coming for that. That was wonderful. Item number 33, which is the high school boys cross country state champions, is postponed until they're able to come in person. So, they weren't able to do that. They're running late. Well, not the cross country. No. Okay, moving on. We have item number four, consent agenda with 4, one, two, and three. I'm looking for a motion to accept the consent agenda. Move to accept the consent agenda.
Second. Have a motion from councelor Cojan and a second from councelor Hettinger. All in favor say I. I. I. I can't tell if I. Yep, there it is. I heard it. Thank you. Item number five, public hearings 51, public hearing for expenditure limitation permanent base adjustment. I will open the public hearing if there's anybody who wish to address the council about the permanent base adjustment at this time.
Okay. With no no one wanting to address us, we will I will close the the public hearing. Item number six here from the citizens. We do have several blue cards. Um, when I call your name, come to the podium, state your full name and only your city of residence, not your address. And, uh, you will have three minutes in which to address the address the council. Is he on? We have one p one blue card that is going to try to address us on Zoom. Eric is on Zoom. Is he?
Eric, we'll start with you. Can you hear me?
Okay. Yes, Mayor Kidman. I I'm here. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. Can you Can you see your three minutes? I don't know what you can see.
I cannot, but I uh I think I can uh I think I can make it work. Thank you for the opportunity and for for making this work uh remotely. Um my name is Eric Stanfield. I'm the chair of the economic development advisory board. Uh the EDAB reviewed the Tan Arena proposal uh and voted 51 5 to one uh in support of recommending this project move forward. I want to start by recognizing um the process in general from our perspective. The applicants have been consistent uh responsive and willing to work through the city's process over time. that level of commitment and follow through is is meaningful. Uh that's not always how it works and uh I think all of us here probably recognize that. Um so it's uh it's appreciated and it suggests a willingness to build a long-term working relationship with the city of Paige. From an economic development standpoint, the scale of this project is significant. The proposal outlines up to $150 million in private investment. uh between 250 and 300 jobs supported and approximately uh 20 to $25 million in cumulative city revenue over the next 10 years um at stabilization once the uh um operation gets up and running. The project is projected to generate around $2 million annually in city lodging tax alone uh with the total lodging tax across jurisdictions uh approaching 6.9 million annually. Uh it also introduces a different type of visitor. Uh one that stays longer uh higher spending rates we expect. Um and also more engagement with other local
businesses uh with uh guide services and uh and uh other different kinds of services uh uh local businesses uh which will also help diversify and strengthens strengthen PA's tourism economy over time. Uh we understand that there are concerns related to recreation and access and uh from the board's perspective what matters is that the applicant has demonstrated a willingness to engage to communicate and to work through those issues. Um they spent a great deal of time uh talking with our board on Monday evening um answering questions and uh uh and visiting with us. So we we appreciated that. So based based on what we've seen so far, uh we believe that that will continue and uh that they'll continue to help us uh address concerns and uh and be partners. Uh ultimately our role is to evaluate whether or not the project supports the economic future of Paige.
Based on the information presented, we believe it does exactly that. For those reasons, the board respectfully recommends the council support the Dan Arena project. Thank you very much. Thank you. Um, for the other blue cards, I know that I I will let you let me know if you want to address us here at item number six or at the agenda item if it is on the agenda. So, for Chuck, you wanted it later at the agenda item. Joe Leas, would you like it now or at the agenda item? Okay, go ahead and to the Thank you council for the opportunity to speak and thank you Paige community for showing up. I had the chance on Monday again to uh to meet with the group that is representing Tan Arena and they gave us their presentation and these are my comments. Thank you for the opportunity to speak regarding this new development. As a local business owner, I recently attended the presentation of Tanina by Daytona Burnt, I hope I got that right, and Banks. The project is well-developed and offers our community a world-class luxury resort that would be significant asset to the area. The proposal involves rerouting a short, lightly used section of an existing trail. In exchange, the developers have committed to replacing it with a new trail nearby at their own expense. Regarding this specific point, and it is significant, I would like to ask those attending this meeting, has anyone here actually stood on the section of the trail in question. Well, at least there's some that have. It's not well visited. It's a beautiful place. I do agree. But they're not going to destroy it. They're not going to build on it. They're not tearing it down. They just need to pro provide privacy for their guests.
It's a very reasonable consideration in light of the overreaching public's concern. The local e economic gains for our community are significant, very significant. They are not asking for any tax advantages, bond issues, discount whatsoever. This in my view is a big win for our community. The local economic Oh, as well as there is a proven team. They have proven success in this industry with Burnt being one of the founders of the Almond Gary and we know that's a success and they've proven that success and their and their major investor has proven success in these fields especially with the luxury customer and that's what this is going to attract being one of the founders of Almondiri property out of northwest page. And speaking of Aman, I regularly see buyout weeks like the one taking place right now at Aman where dozens of private jets fly into our community and they do use our airport and they do fill up with fuel and pay for fuel tax and and the airport fees. But the the guests are whisked out of the airport. They turn right on 10th Street. They go to North Navajo. They turn right on North Navajo. And they don't even come through town. They go straight down and Gary down Ridgeway. They don't even see our town. I've talked about this for many years that we need an angel investor to help with Paige to be the one that is the catalyst for our community for the change to turn this town into what it can be and what many of us I think think it can be for the future.
Almost time. Never even getting a GL. the property will ensure that these guests at least get to drive through our town and possibly stop in and shop. Thank you, Al. Thank you.
Um, let's go to Paul Bauman at this point. Okay. All right. Uh ladies and gentlemen of city council fellow residents, representatives of Tribola Hospitality, good evening. My name is Paul Boffman. I'm the owner of uh property 850 Vista where I do run two tourism related businesses um and serve as the chairman of the parks and recreation advisory board. I want to begin by thanking council again for your thoughtful attention. Our last meeting, your 4-3 vote to protect the Red Mesa Rimro was deeply appreciated by so many. I talked to many in the community um that appreciated that vote. Also saw it aware online. I was also I also want to thank Trouble Hospitality for coming back with additional proposals offering to inventory trails for re relocation directing proceeds to the Pab and including promotional language for the Tan Arena. These gestures do show a willingness to engage and that spirit is appreciated. Um though after discussing new ideas with some of the community or these new ideas with some of the community and trail users, I did go up on the trail and talk to uh several people when I was up there um and try to engage with many community members. I must respectfully continue to oppose the proposed extension of the land sale. This particular stretch of Red Mesa trail holds something truly irreplaceable. You can't just move views and move enjoyment on a certain on on areas of rock that are enjoyed by many now and many more if for future generations to come. Um that's what makes Paige feel like home to many of us. So we all share the the the the goal of seeing Paige grow and prosper. Um yet the everyday quality of life that comes from having these trails in our backyard
open and accessible to everybody everybody matters more than any financial offer or promotional benefit. Yeah. I was encouraged after the last meeting when one of our our council members who had voted in favor of the sale talked to me and another board member. He shared in his view there is a way for the development to secure its area without needing the additional land cell. That perspective from someone who supported the project carries real weight and it gives me hope that a solution exists that works for everyone without sacrificing public recreation. I mean, in the end, the privacy desired, the privacy desired for luxury development, they're they're they want the privacy. It shouldn't come at the the cost of our entire community's ability to enjoy their backyard, something our our land, our trails. You can't just move and enjoy trail. I can enjoy a trail over here, too, but I can't replace my enjoyment for a trail that I've enjoyed my whole life. Born here in 1977. Um, a lot of I would I would like the my future generations to still be able to use the same trails I could use and I know they're quickly disappearing. I urge the council once again to preserve the Red Mesa Rim Trail. Um, thank you for your continued service and hearing us tonight.
Thank you. Um, Judy France at this point or
Okay. Good evening, mayor, council. I'm Judy France. I live in Big Water, but I work in Paige, as you all know. Uh, as the executive director for the chamber, Paige Lake Pal, I am here to support the project at Tannerena located in Paige. We had the pleasure of seeing the presentation on Monday, and we were able to ask a lot of questions. As a director, I hear from so many visitors, other cities and towns on what people feel is missing in Paige. My thoughts have been for the last 14 years, two of which I was on the board of the chamber, 12 of which I have worked. We need an upgrade and we need to grow and we need to compete. This has not happened. We have many great hotels and motel, but having an upscale hotel such as Tannerina brings a level of people who will take advantage of all the tours, restaurants, etc. Paige has to offer. This is a win-win for the business community and a huge draw to visit Paige, Arizona. The chamber is all about supporting the business community. That's why we're speaking out on this. When I travel to other areas and conferences, I also see all the great resorts and I feel Paige with all its beauty would benefit from having our own resort and what we're missing out instead of always looking south or north and looking at the other ones that are happening. It becomes a calling just like the ones in other towns that people migrate to. What we have to realize is that we are no longer a damn town, but a growing population of businesses and people that have so much to offer, and we need to share this with more people. I understand the conflict with the trail, but honestly, they're willing to pay and move it, and to me, this solves the issues, brings a great deal of revenue to town. Isn't that what we want? They're also wanting to build housing, which is always a huge issue. And they are committed to hiring from
our local community. And isn't that what we also want? It's time we became a town of yes instead of a town of no and leave 1965 behind. Please support this project as we can only go forward with it on board. Thank you for your time.
Thank you. We'll go to Michelle Zia. My name is Michelle Zia. I live in Paige. It is practically unbelievable that our mayor and those in favor of a data center would continue to follow this disastrous path pretending not to hear or read the news or the community. As you keep going, please know everyone has access to the community opposition playbook I mentioned before. So you're not fooling anyone. Data center opposition is rampant across the country, but AI was ready for it. I could be wrong, but I'm not seeing the happy people and positive outcomes in the news. The very thing a person would hope to hear from city leadership, especially with something this controversial. The same patterns play out with every proposed center. step by step. Avoid the impending public outcry once the community finds out. You're following the B book perfectly, guys. Next step, keep it hidden as long as you can. Sign NDAs so playbook. You're told you'd better be steadfast and simply ignore the outcry from the community that is sure to come. And definitely don't speak with any neighbors like Lee or other stakeholders. Next, get enough council buyin and quickly with dollar sign eyes and no vetting research or credible positive data.
Next, knowing the majority of the town will oppose, you have to rush from the high pressure sales tactics of Huntley to get that contract signed. You cannot make decisions in a bubble, especially not decisions as important as this. You can tell people what to do in your bubble. You can even tell people what language to speak in your bubble. A very important step in your guide is to preemptively label reasonable residents unreasonable. Make anyone in opposition look radical. I believe this idea is radical. You're the radicals and you sir should step down. We're going to take care of this at election time, no doubt, but we can't wait. you could cause so much further harm to Paige. It's happening already. People are talking about selling their homes and getting out of here if this goes through.
Okay. Well, next we'll have Donell Robertson addressed now or at the agenda item.
And Sydney Black now. Okay. Hi, I'm Sydney Black. I'm from here in Paige, live in Paige. And I just found out about this yesterday and was told to come today to speak about the purchase, possible purchase of this land. And sorry, sheesh. Um, I'm all for growth. I'm all for what's being proposed, being built, this luxury resort. We need it. We need the tax. We need the revenue from it. We need the jobs, especially after the plant closed. But I a lot of my time is spent with my kids. I have triplets. They're 8 years old with tons of energy. And one of our favorite things to do is hike. And I tried to find as much information as I could. I tried to look at maps. I tried to ask friends for information and from what I could see um the trail right at the back portion of the parcel
purchase that's being extended is right where we sit. It's right where we take our break. It's right where we pack our lunch. We pack snacks. We sit and we look out. You can see the power plant. You can see the messes. You can see it's a perfect spot for sunrise. It's that's like that's where we stop. And on that trail there's no shade. We hike all the trails in Paige. Um it's the hottest trail, the hottest sand. It burns your legs in the summer, but that spot is where we sit. That's where we sit to look out. And I realize that they've offered to um provide money to change the trail or whatever is needed, but it just won't be the same. And I um that's a lot of what we do is hike. We spend a lot of time outside. We do all the trails around Paige. We have our favorites, but that's the one that's the best spot on the trail is where we sit. that's where we take our break and I'm again I'm for it. I just not the extension and um that's a lot of what we do with my kids and is hiking. That's what we love to do when it's a summertime. It's hot but we get ourselves out there and that's our favorite thing to do. Thank you.
Thank Thank you. Okay. Item number 71, mayor's reports. I have nothing for today. 72, city manager current events. We'll turn that over to city manager Frank Arberry.
Thank you, Mayor and Council. A few events coming up maybe to take note of. Um March 27th at the library, they will have a author talk for how to self-publish from Tom Deei. I hope I said the name right. Um, then on March 28th is the Easter egg hunt from 7 to 11 p.m. Okay. I hope these notes are right. Um, I would think AM cuz you don't want to hunt eggs at night, do you? It's harder to find them. So, um,
so that would be AM. Thank you very much for that correction. So, uh, and also that same day on March 28th, the PageCon convention, I'll call it, is from 12:00 to 4:00 p.m. at the library. Um, and again, a reminder, April 2nd, the America 250 celebration, the Road to 250, the Arizona Traveling Museum will be, I think, at the library. um in the opening ceremonies at 10:00 a.m. and we'll have some some guest speakers including the mayor and some other folks there from from this very dis. So, uh please plan to attend there and they're going to have a ringing of the Liberty Bell. So, um in April 4th, and I'm looking at Miss Vicki, um 11:00 a.m. is the grand opening of the splash pad. So be there and bring your your swimmies, right? Um
so that's right. So um so we'll get that open with that. Um and that's pretty much it. Oh, and the um Canyon Club's been working on a shade structure up over by the the airport. That parking lot over by the airport. Is that Sage over there? I'm still learning my streets. I apologize. But, uh, go check that out. It's a beautiful structure. So, I think it'll benefit the community. So, you're talking about the end of the runway, right? Yes, the south end. So, that trail entrance there. So, thank you very much.
Okay. Thank you. Item number eight, council leazison reports on board meetings. um any who have attended a board meeting since our last council meeting. I know Coun Councelor Hammond, we'll have we'll start with you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh hope you can hear me. Okay, quick mic check. Yes.
Great. Um so yes, after it's been a while with the holidays and everything since the economic development advisory board was able to meet, but this week we had a really good meeting. Um, we heard from both the Chamber of Commerce as well as the Glen Canyon Association that um, tourism is going up. So, we did see a bit of a slide this past year, but not as much as some folks have have thought. I think it's been like less than 10%. Um, and this spring, the good news is is those numbers are starting to recover. Um, the lake of course just continuing to go down, which is concerning. Um, and in a little bit, you'll hear the presentation from Tannerina. I think one of the things that makes that resort possibility exciting to me is that it's based on land-based recreation and so it has less variability um based off lake levels. Um Debbie Moses from Glen Canyon Association also mentioned that they are looking for approximately 400 square ft of archived space in order to move the city of pages archives. And so um that might be something that we as a city council want to address in the future. Um, okay. In a little bit you'll hear from Tenorina. So, I don't want to take I don't want to be too redundant, but I just want to say thank you to uh Banks Daytona and I can't see if Burnt is there tonight. Um, but I just really want to thank them for giving us a second chance to consider their proposal and for the huge amount of time that they have spent with the community. um meeting with the Chamber of Commerce, meeting with the economic devel economic development advisory board, meeting with um other contractors and developers in town, meeting with business owners. They've really put a ton of time into this and um as Mr. Stanfeld mentioned earlier, that's not always the case when developers want to come to town. So, really appreciate their commitment to community involvement and getting to know us. um they bring opportunity for jobs, they bring
experience and a commitment to expand our trail portfolio overall. Um and so I I think I'm looking forward to you all hearing their presentation. And then finally, we heard a presentation uh with updates on our efforts to revitalize the downtown business district. uh the economic development advisory board at their next meeting will be putting together some recommendations both for the contractor as well as for us related to that. So something to look forward to.
Thank you. Any other meetings since our last council meeting? Okay. No other council leaison reports. Item number 91. We will go back to see if Chuck did you want to address at this time. I'd like to hear the presentation first. Okay. What about Donnell? Same. Okay. They might answer my question.
Item 91, presentation by Tribal Hospitality. So, we will turn that over to the three that are here to present this. I've already warned them that if sound is an issue, we will keep reminding them. Mayor Kidman, thank you. Do we have good audio and video back there? The the microphones on the little platforms in front of you. Can you all hear us, Eric and Amanda? Loud and clear. Yes. Thank you.
Thank you. Mayor Kidman, Vice Mayor Pharaoh, Councelor Hammond, Councelor Hinger, Councelor Kojan, Councelor Roundtree, and Councelor Keller. Thank you so much for having us back. My name is Banks Chisum. To my left is my colleague Daytona Stangga, and to my right is Baron Kman, the founding visionary of Tanena, and in his portfolio is also Aman Giri in Dutton Hot Springs here in the southwest. We'd like our opening remarks to be made by Baron.
Well, Good evening and thank you very much for giving us an opportunity to present the Tanena project also to allow me to introduce myself and it's interesting because about 30 years from now 30 years ago I was driving through uh Page on my way to Tellide to look for a property that would be used for a western themed ski resort. And it would have to be something very special. And about three months after I arrived at Telide, I came across Dunton Hot Springs. Uh I came across Dunton Hot Springs and it fit the bill to an to to fantastically well. It was completely what I look I'd had looked for and three years later we opened Don Hot Springs and it became since then has become a major destination for uh travelers from all over the world who want to get an idea of what life in a in a western town is like. And we were very successful very quickly to the point where Vogue magazine had called it the ultimate winter resort. And so I was very excited about doing another project and we looked at the four corners region and uh that's when I arrived here in Paige for the second time after driving through here on my way to Telide and I found myself in an office with Joyce LBO. I don't know some of you may remember her. She was a a broker here and real estate broker and she introduced me to the shopman property and uh the shopman property is now amongi and of course the the idea behind both of those projects and tanena is about less is more. In other words, recognizing nature uh at its best, creating resorts with very low
density where folks who come from Europe or from Asia or from the east coast can actually roam the country like you can do it every day because oftenimes these folks are in in the in the city somewhere in an urban area. They dream of this just like I dreamt of of the American West when I was a teenager in in Austria, you know, where in everything small while everything is big here. And so there are so many people like that I have talked over the years who who travel through the four corners region and they feel like they can't really get what they came for. They can see it like in a zoo. you can see the the animals and here you can see the the red rocks and the the great expanse of the American West, but you can't be really part of it. And this is what in my mind uh we were able to do with both Dun Hot Springs which became an a place where people could uh get the spirit of the American West of the 19th century and of course here in the United States on on the west side of of in the four corners region where visitors can ex experience the magic of those red rocks and the expanse of the land and Amongeri obviously has become very successful. The downside probably is that it's obviously if you if you do something with very low density, it's going to have to be for a more wealthier crowd of people. But I've learned from the general managers in Among Ui that there's actually a lot of folks who come there who save up to have that experience because it's not only about lodging and about food and whatever. It's about the experience. And so when I drove from Dun to to to Amongeri some time ago, I I looked at this land that is that we call Tanarena
now. And many times I drove by it. I never even stopped. And then one day I stop and I walk into this land and it's like an onion. It it it unraveled in front of me and I was stunned because it's really tremendous for a destination and it has what I was looking for for all of these resorts that I have an interest in. It it inspires. It's a place that will leave people touched when they come there, especially if we do what we want to do. And obviously we're using great architects and good designers and so forth, but we'll end up with something that will touch people. Not only the visitors because uh other than Don Hot Springs and Amangiri, Danarena is near a community, it's near Paige and Paige in many ways and I don't understand why really because it doesn't have a five-star resort. It should have it because there is so many great uh areas around it. But of course, it's not that easy because a lot of the land is probably not available. So in this particular case I feel that we are very lucky to have come across the perfect land for what I want to do. And of course because it's going to be upscale we need the privacy and we need the the the security. That's just one of those things that come with with with that kind of a product. Of course, at the same time, we are willing to develop or help to develop a trail system that would replace for the for the community of page any kind of trail that we will will be used for the privacy and and security belt. And I'm excited because obviously it's going to be more than was there before and it's going to help us too for our guests. So, um I'm excited to have that opportunity to possibly build this with your help. if you approve of this purchase and I look very
much forward to becoming more integrated in this community and to also introduce you to our capital partner Alexander V and his wife Carrie there Alexander is Norwegian and his wife is American and they have hotels in in Uruguay in in in Chile and in in in Milano, Italy. They have never done a resort in the United States and they're excited to do something here too. They have people of great taste and they too are the kind of people who like to get involved with the hospitality product and the community about around it. They've proven that with their resorts in Chile and in Uruguay. And we've talked about uh employee housing for instance. And so we've been sort of daydreaming about a village which we're going to create a village where not only the employees of of Tanarella can can stay, but maybe other people can rent an apartment there too. And it would be welcoming. It wouldn't just be utilitarian. it would actually be welcoming to the people and would create a sort of an envelope where they feel comfortable in. So that's sort of a a daydream that I have and I think it's possible that we can do it and uh I want to close with that and thank you again very much for uh listening to this and and uh I hope that we can we can do that. It would be fantastic. Thank you so much. Thank you. council. Thank you. We're really grateful to be here. We'll be direct. We'll be specific. We will respect your time and we want to leave plenty of time for for questions. Um I do want to go go along and introduce Studio Luck. Matt Luck is another partner and Tannerena and Caitlyn Denine who have also been equally involved in this uh in this development. We're very grateful for them on our team. The primary resort footprint is zone C2.
Hotels and resorts are permitted. Like any other major development, there is a full entitlement process ahead of us. We are committed to working through that properly and transparently with the city every step of the way. Also, the constituents in the community behind us. We have great respect for those who have been in support of Tanena and we have great respect for those have opposed us. And we've had meaningful conversations with a number of them. I said this at the EDAB meeting Monday night, but it's not something I've experienced in my career where our opposition shows us around Paige, gives us the best restaurant recommendations, takes us to the lake where we did no cliff diving, I might add. Um, and enjoy and recreate and enjoy each other's company. Uh, we have been very impressed with this community. We've been very impressed with a number of folks here and we're just very grateful to be here overall. Here's what the market looks like today. page draws 4.7 million visitors a year. Those visitors generate $518 million in direct spending. In that entire market, there's not a single, excuse me, there is not a single ultralux property on the Arizona side. Not one. Dan can change that. See, 150 direct resort jobs yearround above regional median wage. Chefs, spas, therapists, guest experiences, managers, security, maintenance, permanent careers. We want to build careers here. 100 additional regional jobs, local guides, outfitters, suppliers, transportation. We got to speak with some other business owners at the EDAB meeting Monday night at Chamber of Commerce. We've got to speak of one in opposition of the project. It's incredible how many businesses here are based on tourism. 285 peak construction jobs from 2027 to 2030 with a firm committed to local hiring. And we mean that. I said this Monday night. We're from Texas. We want local partners here. We want the support and
we would love to have the community's construction support. Ongoing jobs supported after that. 250 to 300 total. 6.5 to 9 million in annual wages here in the community cycling into housing into groceries local businesses. Tax revenue for the city, $1 million a year the first year in the stabilization period, 2 million after that. That's 2032 for clarification. City lodging tax stabilizing at 2 million. Property tax on an asset $1.26 million. That's for Banner Health, the hospital, the schools. This is Cookano County. If you drive on county roads, we recognize that's not direct to the city of Page, but we do believe there is crosspollination between Cookano County and the city of Page. I think we could all admit that total tax revenue all jurisdictions $9.1 million annually over a 10-year period just for the city of Paige 20 to2 million all of that on land generating zero today our commitment to parks and recreation we recognize that's why we're back here today we've had very meaningful conversations with I believe at this point every council member and a number of community those in support and those in opposition. We've heard the concerns. We want to do our very best here. We've come back with the proposal and I'm going to get into that in just a few minutes. But I will say that we are committed to what we're saying. It's in our contract. It's in our amendment. We've put it on paper. We've said those words. Section 3A of the trail consulting fund. Buyers shall pay the city of Page $75,000 at closing to be held and administered by the city of Paige and used exclusively for retaining a qualified trail consulting firm selected by the city of Page in its sole direction. This scope is legally defined. A full survey of all existing trails, identif identification of new trail development, opportunities on city-owned land, and
the preparation of a long-term urban trail plan for the city of Page. Every deliverable, every single work product is at the sole property of the city of Page. We have no say in who they hire, who you hire. We have no claim of what you produce. And that is by design. Section 3B and maybe the more important one. We believe this is the most important. The trail champion commitment commencing upon the opening of the Tannerina Resort. The buyer and its operator shall in reasonably good faith efforts promote the trail systems of the city of Paige. the resort guest supported trail related events and programming and serve as a community advocate for the growth and expansion of public trails within the city of Page and surrounding areas. This commitment does not end at 10 years. It continues until I want to read this exactly. The city of Paige through its parks and recreation department has achieved and established a connection of trail network throughout the city and the surrounding areas including other authorities having jurisdiction not just the city of Paige. We've heard a lot of complaints that sometimes it may be difficult to work with the other local governments here. We want to be a champion for that. We want to help with that. At this point, our role transitions from an active champion to an ongoing partner and a steward. We wrote that language because we mean it. We mean it. It's our s. It's our sincere belief and we've put this all in writing. We're not asking you to take our word on this. We're asking you to read what we've already put in place within your amendment. The portion of trail affected by this acquisition is a small part of a much larger and more exciting story of where Paige emerges with more trails, more utilized trails, and a worldclass resort partner actively invested within the Page community. On to the actual acreage of the parcel. We know that and recognize there's been a lot of confusion here. Red Mesa does
not go away. It doesn't go away whatsoever. Of that parcel, it's currently 1,84 acres. We are proposed to purchase 247 acres. 1,557 acres remain. That makes up roughly 13% of that partial. There's been a lot of confusion around this that we're taking the entire Red Mesa. That is not true. We're taking a small portion of the ridge for the reasons that were laid out earlier. City keeps the rest and the city manages it and the city does with what they would like with it. To put the numbers in perspective, the trail impact fee $100,000. The trail consulting fund $75,000. Access easement $70,000. the above purchase commitment that's 245,000 partial two what we're here to discuss 1,840,935 just for the record that is the full price per acre of what we paid for the first property with C2 zoning we are willing to pay full price for land that is undevelopable is a cliff's edge bringing the total of the parks and recreation to 2.1 million. To give some comparison, the city's entire culture recreation budget is 1.9 million per year. Tannerina's closing delivers more than the entire annual budget in a single transaction on the day that we close. I really want council to consider this for a moment. If this vote fails tonight, the C2 zoning on the land does not change. It stays zone commercial development and any future buyer can build on it and they will have likely made no trail commitment, no consulting fund, no 10-year pledge to this
community. The economics that we spoke about earlier, the trail will look down on this land with whatever business comes. Here's what's true about Tannerena. Our business model requires a natural buffer between our guest and the outside world. the buffer of the landscape itself, the cliffs, the desert sky, excuse me, the desert and the open sky. Tannerina builds here. The trail doesn't look at a hotel. It looks at what it always has, the northeastern and the eastern horizon. We have spent meaningful meaningful time on that property, ensuring that that boundary was proposed in the very best possible way to secure the view and the panoramic view of that beautiful sky. Today, this land generates zero dollars. With Tanner Arena, excuse me, without Tanner Arena, 247 acres vacant, no tax base, no new jobs, nothing to parks, no trail master plan, no professional planning. Per capita income continues to fall, already down 18% since 2015. Per capita currently is 19,997. By the way, there's a reference from this in the city's annual report. Everything that I'm referencing is right here in front of me in a city provided report. Utah builds more luxury desert, resorts, page watches from the Arizona side with Tanner 2.1 million to parks. That is a recommendation that we've made. This dis has to vote on that, but we've made that recommendation as a part of your packet and to each one of you individually. More than the entire overall parks budget today delivered on one day. A professional trail master plan, city-owned, city controlled for the first time in page history. 250 to 300 jobs. The tax revenue.
This has never been done on the Arizona side of Lake Pal. We we are generally honored to be here in front of council this evening. Two nights ago, we presented to the EDAB board. They asked hard questions. I would encourage anyone in the audience to please listen to that audio. That's a very intelligent board and we appreciate them tremendously. They voted five to one in our support. But tonight, I want to leave you with this. This team has spent years preparing for a project like this. Baron found this property in 2006 when he was working on Gary and fell in love with it. I travel all over the world with Barrett. I hear him talk about the Southwest and specifically Paige more than any other place in this world. And he's not even American. We are asking for your vote tonight and we would be grateful for whatever you decide for the s for the sincere that attitude and the amount of time that you've given us. This council has approached this decision very carefully and we appreciate that. And I do want to add this last little bit. For anyone that's lived here for any period of time, there will be no giraffes on that messa from us. We are happy to take any line of questioning. Councelor Roundtree,
I want to um tell these guys I am so grateful for um the level of respect that you've had for my dis for my opposition and um it's delightful to be able to talk with people who want to hear both sides and and so respectfully debate issues and and I made it clear to you, but I want to make it clear publicly that um I have never um my past votes were never in no way reflective of my concerns about you guys as a group um or about how excited I am that you might come to Paige. I was excited about this partnership and I believe that you guys are going to be outstanding partners for the city of Paige and helping us become an even more worldclass destination. I recognize what an entity of this caliber choosing to invest in our community could mean for decades to come. So this has been a very tough decision for me because I was on park and recreation and I was proud of this system that was created. But my previous concerns centered entirely on the trails process and property clarity. In July 2023, we announced the Red Mesa Trail project completion from grants with great enthusiasm. But then shortly thereafter, city decisions resulted in the sale of a portion of that project. Just months after the trail had been promoted, this raised questions about what exactly was occurring. Turnover of city employees and the election of new council and mayor created a need for answers so I could see the bigger picture. And I respect the fact that when I was wanting more questions and more answers um that you guys were so respectful about that because anyone who knows me, I have to have a lot of answers um before I can make a decision. So I asked if the city attorney or the city manager are prepared to like talk about this piece of property because I learned a lot. I thought that there was property lines. I thought there was an actual acreage and and and through this process I found out that that Red Mesa is very fluid that the grant said only four miles of trail and actually put in 10.8. So could you
guys So I'm kind of asking you guys to answer questions because it affects our decision for this um portion that they're asking for their security. Who's got that? City manager. Yes, mayor. Thank you. I've got the uh looking at the grant document just to make sure because I think that is correct that the the mileage Oh, I'm looking at my papers. Sorry. Was around four to five miles of trails and there still will be four to five miles of trails out there.
Well, there'll be more than that if we accept their proposal and and it's created. I mean, that's what I I'm The other thing I respect is how hard I've mitigated with you guys. And you've responded by answering and and making some mitigations to help make this, you know, a more thing. I mean, so I appreciate your mitigation that you were willing to put in the contract and not just say it. That's how clear and and direct and open you guys are and I appreciate that you were willing to do that. But so go on. Um, Frank, sorry.
Yes. And and to uh the point about the property, yeah, this is not a a dedicated park space with with property lines like in a subdivision. It's as uh the presentation described, it's part of a I think 1,500 or so or 1,800 acre parcel that's just open space. That's what's confusing because in newspaper or news clippings or something, it said as much as 1700. So this whole thing is confusing because being a park and recreation board I thought it was four miles and 4 point something and if you read the grant it does say that but the sign out there says 10. So
right the the the amount of trails put in was 10 but the the first paragraph of the grant document says that the city committed to 4.5 to 5 miles in length.
Okay. So, we got more than than what the grant committed us to out there. And as far as the space goes, that's more of a reflection of how Paige was founded that it was originally the federal government owned all of the land in Paige and that's why there's such big parcels there. It just hasn't been divided yet. And this is part of that large chunk of land. There's also about 1500 acres north of the highway that hasn't been divided yet. So that's one of the unique things about Paige that it was former federal. Councelor Hettinger.
Thank you, Mayor. And thank you all for coming out and presenting to us again. Uh, I want to start by saying how grateful I am for the concessions you've made, for the ideas that you've brought forward, trying to be very creative about how we can um resolve some of the concerns. I also want to thank all of the citizens who came out. I love that we got to hear from both sides and that everyone was so respectful and that we are discussing the merits of the issue at hand and we're not resorting to personal attack. So, I just I want to thank everyone who's been involved, who's come and shared their perspective with me. Um, I have no doubt that you guys are going to design a beautiful well-buil built project that will take advantage of the beauty, the natural beauty that's already there and enhance it and provide a great experience for your guests. For myself though, as I'm considering this decision, um, you know, the original project is zone C2. That's approved. I'm happy that's approved. I would love to see that type of economic development come to the city. As we think though about this amendment, I've been diving into some questions I have. So, um, I've just got a couple questions for you and feel free I would love to be corrected. Um, I would love to be proven wrong, but just thinking about getting rid of these trails for this type of project. Um, I one of the things that you mentioned in your economic impact analysis that was presented to EPA EDAB and then also included on tonight's agenda in case anyone's looking for it. um is that the nearest comparable ultra luxury desert resort, I think we all know what that is in Utah, has demonstrated the depth of demand for this type of experience for 15 years. And um was it Dun Hot Springs was the other one mentioned? I I would argue that both of those part of the experience that people are paying for is the remote value of it. Um I don't think Almond Giri is often sold out. I mean, notwithstanding this week when someone has rented out the entire thing as we heard earlier, but I I don't
know that I'm seeing the demand for an ultra luxury resort this close to a city center. So, do you have examples of ultra luxury? I when I look at Sedona, I'm seeing a lot of luxury hotels at a much lower price point and that's how they get their occup occupancy rate higher. Um, so I'm struggling to see that an ultra luxury would do that well 5 to 10 minutes from a city center. Can I answer that? Yeah.
Well, there is actually a number of Aman resorts in uh in Southeast Asia that are completely integrated in uh very populated areas. They're kind of islands, you know, really. And uh a little bit like here those resorts they also draw from the local population to for the staffing and the advantage is that the staffing comes with families. So they actually live very close to the resort so they're staying longer in other in in at Giri which is a little bit further away from populated areas and especially in Dunton. uh it's difficult to get people to actually stay there and work there for any length of time. What I see the great advantage I I can see here in Paige with with Tanena is that we're going to have employees who live here who have their families here. There'll be the the Navajo Nation of course and there'll be people in in Paige and if we add employee housing which I'm very excited about then I think that that that interplay between a luxury resort that is an island because you can't really see Paige that's an interesting thing. I'm com I agree with you that it's kind of a challenge to imagine a ultra luxury resort that close to a city. But guess what? When you're in the what we call the amphitheater where we got to put the main structure of the hotels when you look around there, you could be on the moon. It's amazing. That's one of the reason that got me excited originally that you can be seven, you know, minutes from from from from Paige in the airport and yet you look around and you're truly in the in the red rock magic of Northern Arizona and and southern Utah. and the
fact that that Paige comes with that population that will hopefully feed uh trusted trusting and trustworthy employees to us for many years to come. I think that's super exciting, too. We don't have to import them. They're right here. Is that answering your question? Yes. And a follow-up question would be, do you think the people that are paying for that remote experience where they can be tucked away are going to come eat? I mean, Bird House is incredible. I love eating there every day. If someone's worried about TMZ, I don't know that they're gonna come eat at Bird House or are they going to be are they gonna stay in the resort and not come use the city?
Let me tell you something. I've been eating today in Paige and I I love the Italian bistro, you know, and all of that. But what one of the things I really want to do is as soon as we get going on here, I'm going to work with my uh capital partner and we're going to do a restaurant here. you know, I'd like to do a nice restaurant here so that we can offer something um of the same nature that we're going to have at Gir, you know, in town. And, you know, that may be a a big be a good beginning. But, um I think that also I think people will come here. Of course, they will come here. They will want to go to a real barbecue. And if it's only like a two-minute drive, it's a lot different than a half an hour drive from Giri. you know, if you can just take the the shuttle basically from Tanarena and you go to the barbecue, one of the many barbecue places you have here. These people from Europe, they want to see that. They want to be part of that. And and we're going to have a diner and and at you know, there's one portion of Tanarena that I'm calling Main Street Tan. And it will be a n to Dun. And we're going to have I want to have a merkantile there, the original merkantile, you know, like where you can buy everything from ammunition to cavia. And I want to have a diner there. And we're also going to have a motor spa because the motor spa is one of I I like to ride my motorcycles. Right now, what I know that there is a lot of people from all over the world. They fly into Phoenix or into Las Vegas. They rent an expensive BMW or a Harley-Davidson and then they drive through the, you know, Fonos region, Grand Canyon, Bryce, Giant, all of that. And every night they have to look for a hotel or a motel. And then the next morning they go to the next site. Now we're going to provide them with a base camp. So they bring their motorcycle. They every morning it's going to be freshly washed,
lubricated, the chains lubricated, then they can go to Bryce and then they can go to Canon DA then go to Arches to the Canyon Land. So, I mean, I've been driving through this area for 40 years, and there is so rich of experiences that I'm excited to offer to my guests a variety of experience that is visceral that is not just like tourists, you know, that they can actually with a motorcycle, with their car, go to these places and experience what you're surrounded by every day.
Thank you. I appreciate that. One more question, mayor, if it's okay. Um, so the other thing that we've talked a lot about are obviously the economic impacts available to the city with this Ultralux resort. Um, and I apologize because I'm going to throw a lot of numbers out there and I've got Excel open if anyone wants to check me on my math. Um, so I was reading a co-star report about ultra luxury versus luxury hotels and so looking at markets that hit the occupancy rates that you're looking at for ultra luxury. So I've got London and New York that hit 65 and 66% respectively in 2025. So close to that 70% rate. Their ADR was 1593 and 1561. So they both saw about a 50% jump from 2019 to 2025. Six years. I know we're looking at 2032. So if we go from 2026 to 2032, luckily it's six years. the report just really worked out for me. Um, but to get from those ADRs that they have that are significantly lower than other markets because they have the occupancy value that we're looking for, we're looking at an 86 and an 82% jump. And I I just struggle to see that we could do something that Paris, the Maldives, London, New York, and Rome can't do, which is that we can hit that very high ADR and still achieve a high occupancy rate. And so when I think about getting rid of these trails, I struggle when I'm struggling to believe some of the numbers. So, anyone want to take it?
Well, absolutely. You know, it's we're we're we're creating a destination, Kenna. It's uh it's the amazing thing you know I I talk to these people you know sometimes that I uh meet in other parts of the world and they tell me that they've been to Amongir so I said I typically say to them so you went to the four corners region to go to Grand Canyon and they say no no no we we just wanted to go to Amangiri because it's an experience it's not only come how do you say it's not only what you see it's not all the lodging It's it's you're wrapped into it a whole experience and there is a lot of people who come to Among Ui into Dunton who save for it. They save up for it and they cannot afford it typically. They wouldn't be high netw worth individuals but they've heard about it. They've read about it. their friends who went there and they say, "Well, on my next anniversary, I'm going to rent a room at Among Ui or at Dunton Hot Springs for a few days because I'd like that experience." And you cannot really compare with that with an expensive hotel in Paris or in London or in Rome or in Milano. You know, I I go to these places and there's a lot of competition and it is an experience too, but it's mostly the experience of the country you go to. When you go to Milano to the to to one of the great hotels there, you you got to go out to the city and you experience the city. At the resorts that I like to develop, you're really like in a cocoon. You come there and you have an experience that's very powerful. And that's why I always talk about deep content. It's not enough to have good design, architectural design, and it's not enough to have cool interior design. There has to be something. And I give you an example. In uh Dunton Hot Springs
when we bought the the place, everybody assumed that uh it would be another cowboy place, another western place with daily shootouts. And in as a matter of fact, uh Ralph Lauren at the time invited me to come to his place in Montros and check it out, his private house. I was curious to see that because it was sort of in the same vein, right? And I when I walked in there, I felt like I've walked into one of his stores, you know. And so I remembered there was this magic time in the American West between 1825 and 1845, which was a trapper. The trappers came to America from all over the world, from France and Germany and Italy and Mexico, and they would trap beaver and other animals. And because in France that was a new fashion, it was the beaver hat. And so those trappers, they came with their culture and with their uh their their accessories and and they would, you know, live in in in in partly they would spend the winter in the villages of their their Native American wives, you know. So they they were very colorful pack of people coming from all over the world. So I decided it was it was a never my idea just the idea to have Don based in that in in that part of history which allowed me to create
which allowed me to create uh every cabin in a different ethnicity. We have an African cabin and we have a Mexican cabin and we have an Austrian cabin. Why? Because on the primitive level on the vernacular it's all we can it can be mixed up. It's no problem. And this is the experience that people get. So it's deep content. So I look for something that we can that will do the same thing or something similar with with Tanarena where we'll find a way to surprise people with decisions with also decorative items probably with a mix of experiences that will leave them hopefully inspired because nothing is going to be only um how do you say decorative. Everything you will see at Tanarena, whether it's a painting or whether it's a specific furniture, whatever, will have a story and there will be a reason why it's there. This is how we create this this envelope that uh at the end it sublimates nature. I people ask me sometimes why why do you want to build something in this beautiful nature? Well, if you can sublimate nature, it's okay. Nobody would go to the to a nobody would go to the site where the Taj Mahal is built but with the Taj Mahal on it. People would go and see it. The same thing with with some places in Grand Canyon. People look at the Grand Canyon but when they go to the hotels and I tell them the railroad barren build it sublimates nature. And I believe that that kind of uh uh experience it sticks and it makes people come back. In Dunton we have so many people who coming back on a regular basis and they're telling me Barren, you
know, I've stayed in every one of your cabins because they're all different. You know, they want to they want to experience them all. And so we'll have surprises in Tanarena. And that hopefully answers your question why people will pay more for three days in Tanorena than in a luxury hotel in Paris. Councelor may try to keep the
I just wanted to finish answering that question for Kenna. So I don't have a separate question. So I had one of the that same question and then Jerry and I um went on a trip and we were talking with our friends from Oklahoma that went on the trip and every single person that we met from a corn for foreign country said oh pa is on my bucket list can we ask you what to do there and every American we talked to said where is that no idea where it was so I do believe that that's because of that and tourism has changed you know for my generation those of us are older we had the bucket list to tell all of our friends we went to Disneyland now Now they want to go to an unusual place and Paige fits that new social media thing if nobody's ever been there and they want to be there. So I believe that they'll get the price could get the price points sooner because of the trend in tourism and because of the international bucket list that Paige is on
did that satisfi did that answer well so if I can offer one followup and then I'll zip my lip. Um, this is exactly what I'm struggling with when when we're talking about London and Paris and we say that that's the destination. Is Paige the destination or is it Almond Giri where someone's coming to be in a bubble? I don't think you can do both. I don't know if you can have the ADR and the occupancy.
Councelor Hinger, let me just address your question directly. Um, first and foremost, I I would point you back to our team. um please do some vetting of the folks and the names that are on that on that slide uh that are going to activate the space and that are going to look at the programmatic approach uh and that have already put the programmatic approach together. Now I don't want to go on the record for the playbook here because there is competition in the west out here. Um I think everyone was uh aware from from council of the recent developments in Canab and what's happening in Canab. There's there's a number of folks trying to come to this region and I think what's really important to look at uh councelor Hinger is try to try to really study what's in the room rate when you're looking at comparables. It's never going to be a fair comparison. Uh we can scrub co-star data all day long. Some of it's not accurate. It's very difficult just to look at co-star data and derive a revar which I think is a better indicator and a better matrix to look at than ADR. Um it's going to get you there much faster. And I would I would just encourage you to really look at what's included in that room rate. I'm not going to discuss much more on the record, but I'm happy to have a one-on-one with you to address that question.
I want to add the the wellness component as well because we're going to have a very Let me have this for a moment. We're going to have a very strong wellness component which in my mind is going to, you know, create a a great draw. Council Kjan. Yeah, Mr. Mayor. I I've been on council for 25 years and I've seen us drive millionaires and billionaires away. I don't believe it's the council's job to question their business plan. You want to bring the money? Bring it on. Absolutely. Tell us what you mean, John.
Um, any other immediate Oh, councelor Hammond, do you have a hand? Uh, yes, Mr. Mayor. I do have uh some comments to make, but I would like to hear from the citizens that wanted to speak on this portion first if that's all right. Thank you for reminding me, Chuck. Yes or no? I my questions have been answered. Questions have been answered. Okay. Thank you, Donell. Okay. Mayor, would you like us to stay seated here or go back to the You can you can stay there for the moment.
I will make this brief because um we've heard a lot of information tonight. My name is Donell Robertson and I live here in Paige. I grew up here in Paige actually and came back about 16 years ago to live permanently with my family. Um, Paige is not the same as it was when we when I grew up. It's it's changed a lot. When I grew up, we had the great big power plant that was able to pump a lot of money into our community, contributing greatly to this town. Um, we all know what's happened since it was removed. Um, the town is shrinking, but I I I don't mean that by um tourism is definitely up, but the town itself, and we can see that by the closure of the middle school, and raising my kids here was a lot different than I thought it would be because of the way I grew up here. Um, economically, we need growth. We need development. We need families that want to move here because of opportunities. Um, having said that, I wish to comment on the resort development and the desire uh that they have to p purchase the additional land. Um, I listened to the presentation the other night because I'm on the economic development board and um I really learned a lot from that meeting and I learned a lot more tonight. So, thank you for all of your presentation. Um, I listened. Um, I feel that the idea of an amigirary type resort within city of Page is a great opportunity. Uh, after considering the pros and the cons, I believe that the pros far outweigh the consosed purchase. And speaking from an economic standpoint, I think it's a no-brainer. The jobs created would be great for Paige. I understand that there would be need to be some work done for the trail system, but I believe that the obstacle can be overcome with the proposal that's been presented. We need to be looking toward ways to bring new and exciting things to Paige that can help give us a boost even during all the changes that
we've had to go through with the lake levels, the fires, the COVID, all these things that happened that have impacted many businesses here. Um, but I think this is a step in the right direction. So, um please allow this project to move forward. Thank you. Thank you. Um any others questions for our H councelor Hammond? Oh, I can't see her yet. Councelor Hammond, do you still have a hand up? I'm I'm sorry. This is not a call to the public at this point. They already turned in the cards. Yeah, I didn't know I could turn in a card. Uh, if I can't speak, I can't speak, but I'd love to say something.
Go ahead, Councelor Hammond. Did you still have a hand or was that just a reminder to me? Oh, no. I I do want to make comments. Is if there's another member of the public that wants to speak first, that's okay with me. We'll we'll we'll do yours because we'll follow the protocol.
Okay. Thank you. Um, so I'd like to take a minute to address a friend of mine who's in the audience who spoke tonight, um, who's Mrs. Black. Um, we've known each other for a long time. Our kids are the same age. We have very similar values, I think, in wanting to raise our kids in Paige. We're we're some of the people that grew up in Paige and um, chose to stay. And that's kind of unique for kids growing up in Paige. a lot of people, a lot lot of kids when I was growing up, the goal was how to get out of Paige and who could do it the fastest and who could do it the best and who could never come back. And um I'm kind of unique in always wanting to come back. I I've always loved Paige. Even as a kid, I appreciated the natural beauty and our community. And um I guess that makes me a little weird, but I uh that's just me. And I I think that um Mrs. Black and I are cut from similar cloth. And we want our kids to have a future in page, too. And so, um, I would like to address the concerns that she raised and the concerns that others have because I I heard a little bit of conflict there and I I I have felt that internal conflict over this project and I think others do as well. Um, on the one hand, we have this great economic opportunity. On the other hand, we have these really beautiful irreplaceable places where we build our memories um, not just for ourselves but generationally for um, for our kids and we and we want them to have that experience too. So, for me, I would just kind of like to recap um what I see as some of those positive benefits as um Mrs. Kidman just um explained and why I I agree with her that I think the benefits outweigh the um any negatives. So, again, just to recap, we're talking about 200 jobs that local citizens are wellqualified to compete for. Um these are jobs that would pay higher than average salaries for hospitality. So I see that as a a major plus. Um
a lot of those jobs are maintenance and facilities management which people who were displaced by the power plant going away are well qualified to compete for. Um there's an additional draw for new workers to come to Paige and help us grow the town which is great. You've heard from the developers their commitment to housing. Um one thing they didn't really get into is their vision for like a European style uh I suppose in America we would call it a subdivision. Um but Burnt calls it a village where um there's like a coffee shop and other things to draw and and and bring those neighborhoods together, which sounds really lovely to me. Um again, I want to commend the group that's here tonight for their commitment to transparency and meeting with the community. They've talked a lot about the partnerships that they're hoping to grow with local artists. They want to offer authentic um tourist opportunities, whether that's shopping with local tour providers or coming up with completely unique opportunities. um again that that some of us locals only get like we really are so um when I look out at the cliffs I think about the fact that people from all over the world die to come and just spend a few days in Paige and we get to live here and we get to have these amazing experiences and that's what Tanina can do for a whole new set of people. Um and and I I just I think it's exciting. I love the their commitment to eco-friendly development. Um they talked during our economic development meeting about the desire to protect the views. Part of why this is so controversial is this area that nobody wants to see the views gone. Right? Right now it's zoned zoned as C2. It could be a box hotel. It could be a strip mall up there on the cliff. It could be gas stations. But with this project, we actually secure those views and protect the environment long term. no different from somebody who purchases um an additional parcel to keep their backyard pristine. Um so I see that as a
protection measurement. Um they've also talked about wanting to put in a very a rather expensive boardwalk system to protect the desert floor. That's how strong their commitment is to protecting our desert environment. And I like that too. Um we're we're working with developers here who have a proven track record in resort development. We heard questions about is this really feasible? If you look at the at the developments that Burnt has been a part of, um, his investors, Burnt, is it okay to say their names out loud at this point? I don't. Alexander and Kerry Vick.
Okay, great. So, I'm getting thumbs up there. Alexander and Ky Vic have um a long reputation of creating these types of destination resorts that Burnt was describing to you. Um, Alexander is also a well-known outdoor adventure enthusiast who has experience developing mountain bike trails. So, when we talk about the concern over losing portions of the mountain bike trail, we're talking about rerouting portions, but overall, we're talking about growing our trail system with a worldclass partner. Um, by my estimate, if council follows the recommendation of the developer and and allocates around $2 million towards trails, between like eight and 12 more miles of trails. So, overall, I guess what I'm trying to say to Mrs. Black, to other friends and community members who have similar concerns, I know how precious the memories are that we build in the community with our children, but I see this overall as an opportunity for our children to have a future in Paige. if they choose to stay and make their home here. And I see it as an opportunity for us to build new memories. Um, so I'm I'm very in support of this project and um hope that I am representing you well because that's at the end of the day why I'm doing this. Um, and I and I really want to thank you for speaking up and speaking your opinion.
Thank you. Okay. Well, thank you for your presentation. Thank you, mayor. Thank you. Thank you, council. Thank you very much. I'm sorry, sir. There there's a there's a pattern that I have to follow from meeting to meeting. I can't be changing it just for one meeting or No, we need to follow the pattern that that is for calls from the citizens. It's not about the one minute. It's about that once you set a procedure then open meeting law regulations require that we maintain that same procedure. So it's nothing personal and it's it's just so we have to follow that procedure.
On to item number 92 proposed changes to the consolidated fee schedule. Who is it that I throw this over to?
Is that a bajillion tab? I mean, so this was uh presented to the council uh a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago. I think it's been two meetings ago um for to begin the publication process and council made a request to make some changes and updates uh with respect to the par club and a few other items. I think a horseshoe bend fee for locals or a nonfee uh for locals um and some of those things. So staff has made the changes that uh council had requested or at least proposed some changes to to meet those requests and have brought it back for council's um input
in input or or passing. Okay, I know we've got comments on this one. Let's start. Huh? It's not being Oh, it's not being passed. Let's start with councelor Preller and work this way.
All right. Uh thank you. Uh, so reading through this, I'm I'm very thrilled that the uh the library is finally being spoken for on their uh fees and that they're being adjusted for inflation after 20 years. Um, I remember when you can get library fines cleared for a can of soup. Um, that probably isn't going to work anymore. Uh, my only concern reading this is uh the horseshoe bend uh local Oh man, I can't even scroll and find it. Um, thank you. um that the we we got to fine-tune that. Um I totally love the idea of a uh resident pass, a citizen pass, local pass, whatever you want to call it for for Horseshoe Bend. Um I think we need to define uh what size vehicle and how many people uh they can bring in with it. Uh and do we want it to be free? How many how often can they use it? That sort of stuff. Um, I I think it's a citizenowned asset. I, you know, if we can figure out the terms, I would like it for for it to be free for citizens. Um, but I think that's kind of I I would like a bit more discussion and movement on that. Other than that, fantastic.
Council Hedinger and then councelor Cojan. Agree. That was of one of one of my comments. I I don't love the good for 10 visits, $50. Um, but I do recognize that it makes additional work for staff to be checking proof of residency and printing cards of some kind. Um, but I I was hoping to see that closer to like 10 or $15 for a year versus $50 for 10 visits. The other thing I saw is that on the Parac Club, the sunset room and the full facility use is up to four hours and the remaining rooms are up to three hours. And I was wondering if there was a reason for that or if we could just bring them all up to four hours, make it consistent across the board. we have anybody that could answer that? And
here I am told Debbie she didn't have to be here tonight. So sorry that's my fault. Um I think we could you know double check the the four hours versus three hours and then then may I address the horseshoe bend or yeah you
I'll give that a shot too. So um that was our our stab. We had a few options and uh we know the administration of it would be tricky but the main thing we were looking at is trying to prevent say a tour company from using a local ID and bringing in a bus or something like that. So, we're we're open to suggestions and um we started out with a $150 for 15. No, it was a $100 for a 15 pass, but then we thought $50 for 10 that would get you throughout the year and just check the address and you could, you know, if the husband and wife wanted to buy two, but we could we could reduce that price if council sees fit. Um but the main thing we were trying to do is trying to minimize the abuse of it.
Councelor Cojan and then councelor Frell.
Yeah, Mr. Mayor, I got a a problem with the whole parac thing. When when we had the open house, I I assumed that we were going to run it like uh it was supposed to be run when I flew down there and met with Mr. Harmon, who was in charge of uh properties and acquisitions at the time. It was under the understanding that we were going to have it open. And I thought that's what we're talking about when talking about the staffs down there all day. How come we don't have that open for people to go down there and play horseshoes and volleyball and use all the facilities and stuff and it wasn't intended. It's not in the I know Darren brought up that supposedly we couldn't be in competition which is not in the deal at all but in the past two weeks everybody's cancelling the other parts of downtown like Mariotta and the Elks and stuff. We're not supposed to be in direct competition. We should be higher than they are and as a second resort or something. So,
councelor Frell,
I have the like concern. U Elks Club approached us said that they have people counseling cancelling now because it's less expensive to go there. Um the idea was is that if people had somebody visiting they can go play horseshoes, they go play basketball, they could do volleyball. They they they're we asked at the beginning that each group would would offer up ideas how they would use it. I specifically asked on the record library, what would you use that for and how? Becky at the community center, how would you use that and how? And then in the youth group, how would you use that and how? And now it's turned into people are booking left and right and and now we have competing businesses because our rate is so far under theirs for charging purposes or we can't charge certain things that they're cancelling going to the Elks Club or they're canceling and they just spent $180,000 to upgrade their facility and are counting on their revenue. So, I think we're we're we're touching on a a piece of territory here that's going to come back and have some people upset.
Councelor Hettinger. So, I think we're talking about two different things and this came up previously when we were talking about getting the care facility open, which is that we need a master plan. And I know our city manager and park staff are actively working on what that looks like and how we move forward with that. But as council, we directed them to open this building up as quickly as possible because what I heard is that people used to use the PAR facility to rent it out and we wanted them to open it so that we could rent it out. So I I think we all need to get on the same page about if we want it to be able to be rented out or not. But but this direction came from us as a council. We directed them to move forward as quickly as possible. Councelor Roundtree
and to me it's it's a different facility than some of the others. I mean, you don't want to take your volleyball team or your basketball team to celebrate and there's no place in town to Marriott or the expenses of the Elk Club and that's why you choose a community center. And so the paracub is supposed to be our community center and it's supposed to be on that level of a community center. These other entities are in a different level. So I don't think we're competing with them. They're a lot more expensive. High school basketball, soccer, Girl Scouts, 4, they can't afford those other facilities. Um, but they need a place and they need to be validated in our community also. And that's what a community center does for these other organizations is it gives them a space to be able to hold their um meetings in or their opportunities. And especially today, it's you used to build up Girl Scouts in in your home and most churches won't let you do it and the schools won't let you do it anymore. So community centers step up and they play that role and that's what our community spend center supposed to be do. So I don't think it's in competition with these other organizations. If I want a really nice wedding, I'm going to go to the Marriott. that if I have boys boy scouts or girl scouts or soccer or baseball team that needs to celebrate or needs to have a fundraiser for a member of my team, I need to have a community center that's on that level that's on that level of financial that makes it viable for me for that activity.
Quick question from about the fee schedule particularly at the parah club when it comes to nonprofits, charity organizations. Now, is it my understanding that the fee is not applied for a 5013C group like a boy scouts whatever some fees are not I don't know about all of them but I had a discussion with Debbie a little bit about that and she did say that there are some places within the par club that did meet that level but I don't know if the big huge room so so when
thinking about these community organizations that need some place like a community center in order to be able to hold 's events versus a family that wants to have a wedding. If our fee schedule for the family wanting to have a wedding does not make us undermining competition in town, but the fee schedule allows for the nonprofits to use it. Is that the way that
Yeah, we have three categories and this is not just for the parl. This is for all of our facilities. We have three categories, A, B, and C. And there's different fees for each. So typically in all of our facilities, it's $0 for A, which is City of Page sponsored, Paige nonprofits, and Paige community groups. For B, it's a little it's not zero, but it's not the highest rate. It's somewhere in the middle. And the B group is community use, which specifies page residence. So if you're a family, you would fall under that. If you're a page resident and you want to use it for something, you would be under B, which is a which is the middle fee tier. And then for C is the highest fee tier, and that's other, which is businesses, non-residents, using the facility to promote or make a profit, uh, use by non-page residents, and any events that do not meet the criteria of A or B. So, that's how it's broken out. We can we can change the numbers. Um
so if so if the numbers are revisited so that it's not causing the type of problems with the other entities in the community. That's something we could revisit. I'm I mean so I guess I don't know how I don't know how staff goes about kind of keeping up with what everybody else is charging and making sure that we're charging more. Um that that would be a little bit tricky. Yes. So the cap so the B category right now is less than our actual expense of what we project our actual expense to operate that. So we could raise that. What we can't do is we can't charge fees that are more than what we can justify our expenses to be. So that's what the C level typically is is this is our full cost to operate this. Um so we could raise B. We just can't go higher than what we can justify as our actual costs if that makes sense.
Councelor Cojan. Yeah, Mr. Mayor, when I when I was on council when we acquired that property, I know me and Frell worked a lot long hours trying to make work to where that facility was open. It wasn't just a rental property. And I don't know how that how come we're back to where it's just a rental property. That makes no sense to me. is be able to be utilized by the community during the daytime when there's staff there. There's some nice facilities there. Okay. So staff looking for direction from us to Yes. Is to
city manager. What I'm hearing is conflicting opinions from council. So, I would like some direction to be honest. I would just like to see that staff see if they can facilitate that to where it was for the use that it was intended that the community could use it. If they want to rent it for a certain purpose, that's different. But to not have an open during the day where people could go down there and use the basketball and the horseshoe bin horseshoe I mean and the volleyball and that stuff makes no sense at all.
So are you asking are you primarily when you say having it open to the public are you talking about like the out outdoor areas like a park or are you talking about the indoor like as well? Probably the outdoor would be more able to control and and I don't I don't think we I'm just a little stumped because that's not in the original document. So, if council wants to provide that direction, I'm fine with that. But, councelor Hammond, I I'm not sure where that was on the record. Sorry, this is this is a tough situation for um Mr. Marberry, can you remind us how long you've been our city manager?
About three and a half months.
Yeah. Um so that is tough because the conversations about um paracle predated your time. It predated this council too. Um so I think there is a lot of mixed bag there and I just want to suggest to the rest of council that maybe we refer this matter to our parks and recck board to come up with some clearer recommendations and guidance and then we can consider that um rather than making sausage on the dis tonight. And can can I just reiterate where we're at procedure-wise? So right now the fee to use the PAR facility is zero. It will be until we go through the statutory process to establish these fees. What this is is this is the initial we have to staff has to the city has to publish this. We have to publish it for 90 days. And during that time period is it 90 or 60? 60 60 days. We have to publish this for 60 days. During that time period, we're notifying the public that this is what we're proposing to set. Then we've got to give notice that we're going to have a a meeting where the council is going to consider adopting this by resolution. So, at some point, this will come before you for adoption. Tonight is really just direction to say, you know what, go ahead and publish. We can you guys I later on will be the decision. Just because we publish this doesn't mean these fees are set. These fees will not be set for at least 3 months. Um because you'll have
I get that, but it it sounds to me like maybe we're not quite even ready for that step. The the the concern is that while that's being charged zero, that that is why people are jumping ship from other entities in town because there is no fee whatsoever. And so, um the sooner we can at least get some, my opinion, the sooner we can get some fees in place, we can we can work on tweaking it and improving it. That's my opinion. Um, we can always adjust it down the road. We can adjust it and and and get get more input as you are suggesting in my Oh, I'm sitting here pointing to the screen, but you can't see me. Okay. Um, councelor Rry,
I believe that this um needs to go on a future agenda if we're giving direction about the PAR club because it's not on the agenda. We're only talking about fees and so trying to give our staff counsel and what happens with this. So, councelor Hanman's recommendation that goes to Par Club and then place on an agenda for us. But um generally community centers, you know, they run themselves and the community decides what they want to use it for and that's the direction it takes. It's usually not a rigid where a council or somebody tells a community center what it's going to do. It kind of develops in to what the community needs because that's what it's there for to meet the community needs. But I suggest that we place it on a future agenda item. Councelor.
Yeah, I I agree that that's what the use of it like today use and stuff that needs to be addressed at a at a different time. Staff could be working on that and see what they can come up with. So for staff to have a little clarity, are we asking them to move forward with the what is printed as this fee schedule so that the rest of it can it can all go forward and we will visit adjustments and clarifications down the road? Yes. Yes, councelor Hinger.
I am comfortable with the PAR facility. I I want to reiterate what I said at the beginning. I would love to see the use fee be standard for up to four hours across all of the rooms, unless there's a compelling reason that some of the rooms should be up to three hours. And I would like to see something different with the annual resident pass. Um, I like the idea of limiting it to a car or whatever. Like I think at Horseshoe Bend right now we say that the $10 fee is a vehicle up to so many passengers. I would love to see that be 10 to$15 for residents but open to other suggestions. And I second part of that. So
yeah, can can we define that as uh like non-commercial vehicle containing up to five people or something like that? Yeah, there's and then get a little punch card and that's some clarifies to revise and more conversations. I'd like to move that we publish as is. Second. We can make it as a motion. We have a We have a motion from councelor Hammond and a second from councelor Cojan. Councelor Hedinger,
I've got a question for staff. So, if we publish as is and it's published for the next 60 days and we make a change to it, does it have to be republished for 60 days? No. Okay. Awesome. Thank you. All in favor say I. I. I. I. Okay.
Under new business 101, Grand Canyon Region Long-Term Recovery Plan for the Dragon Bravo and White Sage fires. You've been waiting a long time to speak with us. Welcome.
Oh, I think we lost your microphone. Is it not over there now? It's sitting on this table. Can we hear you now? Go ahead and speak. Was that you? I Hello. Can me hear you?
Can you hear me now? Yes. Say it again. Hello. Yes.
Yes. Okay. I uh thank you for this opportunity, mayor and city council and staff and uh and our community. I'm Lena Fowler, Cookanino County Supervisor, and today we are here to present the Grand Canyon North Rim uh recovery plan, the Dragon Bravo White Sage uh long-term recovery plan. during the fire on the north room when it was happening. We all had meetings during the fire and then after the after the fire and then we had many more meetings and throughout the community. I just want to thank all those that have been involved, the city council, the um the page um chamber of commerce uh and just multiple organizations in the community in our region. Uh and today in all of those meetings, everyone asked for a recovery plan. So, Cookanino County uh board of supervisors hired um the contractor to put this plan together and we have completed the plan and they're going to Tim is going to present as well as um introduce the contractors that uh the AC um disaster uh and they that way we can pro provide information as to where we are today. This is a living document. I believe you'll really um community is going to see that this uh recovery plan is really going to work for our region as we had Celeste Meyers from the Kain County Commissioner here earlier, but she had to leave and we so we've been working
with the Utah counties and so that's where we are and we want to present this to you. Thank you for the this time that you're giving us.
Mr. Mayor, Council, good evening. My name is Tim Carter. I'm the director of Cookanino County Emergency Management. Um, I'm going to be uh brief in in my remarks because I know we we really want to get to the plan, but I would say uh it was unplanned, a little ironic that most of the conversations you guys have heard tonight have been about economic development um and and the economies of the region. Um, you know, I'll say that, uh, kind of preaching to the choir. You know, we know the Dragon Bravo fires and White Sage fire both, um, combined at over 200,000 acres really tested this region in in ways that we haven't seen before. Um, while the fires burned primarily on federal lands, we really had no impact uh, off federal land physically. We know the economic impacts to the region have been devastating and continue to be. So, um, as Supervisor Fowler mentioned, uh, you know, as soon even before the fires were out, as soon as, um, we started kind of realizing what, uh, the fires could be and what they were growing into. Um, we we started meeting with a lot of community members who said, "What are we going to do? What's the path forward?" Uh, we had, you know, Paige area was looking for answers. Fredonia was looking for answers, Canab the state. So, we came together, brought everybody together in a a unified path forward. Um, and I want to start by saying a huge thank you to uh the communities. Um, and and Ashley will go into this um in a little bit, but you know, we were in town gathering a lot of info uh during the I think the second week of December, really meeting with each community to find out what were the impacts that that each community saw and and everybody saw something a little bit different. there were a lot of commonalities uh with uh you know incorrect messaging coming out from um media outlets outside of the region, things like that. Um but some of the the the really uh finer nuances that we met with the community gave us that information of here's how bad it was
here and here's some ideas we have to move forward uh to implement the plan. So, um, a huge thank you, uh, to the community for providing that info for us. Um, this plan was a truly collaborative effort of partnerships from local, county, state, federal, government entities, our uh, tourism industry, the private sector, nonprofits, you name it. Everybody came together and and really stepped up in a unified voice to to give us a plan that, as you see, is a path forward for the greater Grand Canyon region. I'll say that uh just the basic outline and framework for how this plan came together uh it's modeled uh under the Cookino County disaster recovery framework. That's something that I will say that page is thankfully something you haven't had to experience until now. Uh but that is a document that Cookino County has through the emergency management department that we work with all of our jurisdictions uh to plan a unified recovery. It's based on some FEMA best practices uh nationwide. Um, you know, that document really lays out what the structure of this plan should look like. Um, that was a learning opportunity uh that came out of the tunnel and pipeline fires of 2022 uh just north of Flagstaff. We didn't have this plan. We realized there were that was a gap. So, we sat down um and brought in some consultants to help us write this plan. actually Ashley is the consultant helped us write this using that guideline that we then were able to come in and pull task forces together in the structure for how that is laid out and for how our recovery uh will move forward on this. So, um I it's led by several county staff in task force. Uh there's three task forces that we have. Um and then a disaster recovery coordinator. That coordinator, I'll just say his name is Aaron Graasier. Uh he was unable to be here tonight. He's actually my deputy
director in emergency management. Um the the natural and cultural resources task force is led by Jay Smith, who's the county's forest restoration director. Um the health and social services task force will be led by Joel Buunes and staff from the county health department. Uh and the economic and tourism recovery task force is led by Mr. John Salt and Stall who is here with us tonight. The county's economic development director. So really glad that we've got some uh some top tier staff that are working on this with our stakeholders and all of our partners. Um, and Ashley, we'll we'll kind of go through a lot of that there, but you know, I I'll just close by saying that, um, you know, it's important for us to to use this plan to tell our story. Uh, we gave, um, Ashley and AC Disaster Consulting a pretty high bar and a very short timeline to get this done. Um, we wanted this to be something usable at the local level for the local communities, for local businesses, but also something that each of you can take to the state level uh government when you go down to meet with the legislation there or in DC for uh, you know, for a lot of the the initiatives there that you guys do in your lobbying advocacy efforts. So, um, it really goes into, and I'll just pause and say, you know, in emergency management, we write plans a lot. They're great if you have trouble sleeping. You know, sometimes they're they're not a great road, a great read. This one is different. Uh, I can tell you, and when you look at that, we ask them, don't tell us that this region is great. Tell us why. and someone who's never been west of the Mississippi can pick up this plan and read the human touch in this plan, see the impacts, feel the impacts just like they were here um like we all were during those fires. So, we're really excited about it. Um happy to answer any questions, but I will let um Ashley kind of take us
through this. So, happy to introduce her. Ashley Makuch um longtime resident of um of Northern Arizona. Used to work for Cookanino County, went to work for state emergency management and is now working for AC/DC. So um a lot of um a lot of knowledge base in her and her team that that is local, a lot of vested interest in this area. So uh I'll turn it over to her for the presentation and we'll do questions after if that works. Thanks. Good evening, mayor and council. Ashley Makuch, uh the project manager with AC disaster consulting for this recovery plan effort. Um uh very happy to be here with you all today. Um and uh I have with me as well Tori Littlefield. Uh she was our senior planner on this project as well. And we're going to run through um the story map that you see here as a a visual companion to the full uh long-term recovery plan. um and uh give you kind of an overview of of where this plan stands today and what is to come. Um I as Tim mentioned uh this is the county's first implementation of a long-term recovery plan that is disaster specific and builds off of that existing disaster recovery framework which aligns with state and federal guidance and national best practices. Um but this is really a a unique opportunity in developing this plan to have a very specific economic focus. Um as the Dragon Bravo and White Sage fires burned on primarily federal lands, there weren't uh impacts uh physically to county and municipal um infrastructure. there were no homes burned, but the economic impacts of these fires and those cascading impacts have rippled through the greater Grand Canyon region um in very immense ways. And so the need for this plan really came out of that
and and a kind of a unique approach to focus on economic recovery um as well as really be truly locally driven. Um, as Tim mentioned, uh, we were, um, in, uh, on the ground in December, uh, with our team and the county team, uh, visiting each of the communities throughout the entire county, as well as meeting with folks from, uh, southern Utah jurisdictions to make sure that this plan was built off of the needs and impacts of the locals. um and truly being uh the focus there um rooted in the community um approaches. Um the other thing that's really key to to note um and that this story map uh companion to the full plan which is just a little over a 100 pages um is the the need for advocacy. Um, so this story map uh will be publicly available online as well as um uh including links to the plan um which includes an executive summary that will be a great resource for um elected officials and leaders throughout the Grand Canyon region to use in their advocacy efforts um at the state and federal level to help support the action items that were developed as part of this process. Um, so just want to point out, um, here we've got a bit of background information, the story map that Tori will scroll through on the fires, where the impacts were felt, and some of the recovery efforts to date. Um, we've linked to um, federal partners uh, pages here to make sure that folks accessing this uh, story map have the latest information straight from the Grand Canyon National Park on um, the status of the North Rim as well as the Kaibad National Forest updates. uh web page. Um we've also left a placeholder here which as the county team can um moves forward in implementing this plan, they will use this as a spot to come back and um provide updates on the action items in
this plan and the progress um in real time. And so this will be a tool that will um be continued to um be encouraged for communities to come back to for updates. Um, so a little bit about how this plan was built and our process. Um, we've got a a timeline here beginning with um, the fires in July of 2025. Um, and running through that initial response and then in September of 2025 is when um, our firm AC disaster consulting was brought on to support beginning that long-term recovery planning process. Um and through September to January, we conducted um comprehensive stakeholder engagement, including um uh targeted interviews to key partners throughout the region, as well as those small business and community listening sessions in person. We did nine of those in December. Um and uh we also had a public survey that was open for several months. And all of this culminated with the task forces um that Tim uh outlined for you led by the county staff uh convening in February to take all of the information that was provided by each of the communities and form uh tangible action items out of those needs and impacts that were heard from the community level. And that is what you uh see in the annexes to the plan. And and we'll show you a bit more on that here in a second. Um really want to highlight I think one of the most important things to take away here is the plan being finalized uh March 2026 is not the end of this effort, it's the beginning. Um this plan outlines a path forward and truly um implementing those action items that have been outlined now is the um work to come that the the county team and um really the the entire region and the stakeholders outlined in the plan will be um initiating uh moving forward.
As Tim mentioned, there are three task forces um that were identified uh based on the the impacts throughout um these fires. Uh economic and tourism recovery um kind of selfexplanatory as far as focusing on um supporting small businesses, restoring visitor confidence. Um, and one of the the most significant things we heard in every community we spoke to, with every stakeholder we interviewed was the need for more coordinated regional marketing and messaging uh for the Grand Canyon region um in northern Arizona and southern Utah. Um, and so that is really interwoven into u many of the action items that you see throughout the plan. Next, the Health and Social Services Task Force really focused on smoke impacts. um those were pretty significant with these fires. And so taking a look at air quality, what uh public health uh organizations can do to support um access for clean air and strengthening community health capacity um was really the focus for the health and social services task force. And then last but not least, the natural and cultural resources task force focusing on um the the forest restoration and health um ranching and logging industries support um and making sure that um that action items developed throughout the plan, not just in this task force, but across all of the task forces were informed by um the cultural traditions and and values of the region. So really the meat of the plan um and represented here in the story map is the action library. Um if you're looking at the full plan um which will be available online by the end of the week um on the county's website um there are annexes for each of the three task forces which outline a total of 32 action items across these varying task forces that um the county uh leadership structure will begin working with. um and some have
already begun working with stakeholders to uh advance forward. Um these range from uh the marketing efforts as mentioned um some joint Arizona and Utah projects on um establishing more interconnected trails networks and different things in the the economic space. um in the the health and social services really looking at um improving uh messaging and coordination around smoke impacts and air qualities during uh air quality reporting during uh fires in the region. um as well as um uh clean air equipment for vulnerable populations among many other items as you see here. And um for natural and cultural resources task force um quite a bit of focus on um support needed from ranching and logging industry as well as um trail rehabilitation and and phased openings. One of the things we heard from many communities, especially um in our our meeting with Paige in December, um and hearing from those community members was the need to open trails on the North Rim as soon as possible. Um and so that was one of the things that really came uh rose to the top in this task force. Um and then lastly on this action library, again, we've got a placeholder here as this is a living document. This is going to um be a county live dashboard that will have um reporting on the progress of the action items. Um the disaster recovery coordinator with uh Cookanino County Emergency Management, Aaron Graasier, will be leading the um evaluation and reporting and and coordination across task forces to ensure that um this is publicly available as progress occurs. Um, one of the things to note in this plan, the action items are um, organized by short, medium, and long-term timelines with short being 0 to 6 months, medium being
6 months to 24 months, and long 24 months plus. So, really recognizing disasters such as this, especially with the the cascading economic impacts of these fires, that recovery process and some of the action items that have been identified can truly take years. um and some of them will be ongoing um in improving, you know, collaboration and coordination throughout the region. And so this will be a long-term effort and being sure to to keep um you know, real-time updates and transparency on the progress of these action items is is going to be key for that county team. As Tim mentioned, um we really took a a an unique approach to outlining um the needs and impacts for each of the communities and tried to really focus on on that human touch and explaining why this region is so special and not just why the greater Grand Canyon region is special or the Grand Canyon itself, but why each individual community is special and what their impacts were. what we heard directly from community members and small business owners in each of these uh communities and what those ideas were for um uh revitalizing the economy and and and different things. And so um Tori's kind of scrolling through here a bit a few of these examples, but this is available each of the communities that we've outlined in the plan. Um you can scroll through and see their impacts and key recovery needs and priorities. Um and this is also um uh in the the full plan as well. uh in uh longer form. Um one of the things again to really note, we we um really tried to hone in on the the distinct and unique nature of each of the communities while also showing um how interconnected these microeconomies are and the the regional needs really coming together for a a unified path forward for the greater region and the benefit of each of the individual communities.
um our last section here on the story map and I think one of the most important uh aspects of this plan is the need for um implementation and advocacy. So, as I mentioned, this plan uh being completed in March really marks the beginning of this effort. And so, um the Cookanino County Board of Supervisors uh approved and adopted this plan by resolution on Tuesday. And that, um directs the county team that, um Tim outlined for you to begin this implementation with all of the uh localities and regional partners outlined in the plan. And so, really focusing on this being a living document that will evolve as the task forces begin meeting. um and continue to um drive that coordination. Uh the the success of this plan really requires um that sustained leadership at the the local and county levels um and that engagement from partners. Um your your county disaster recovery coordinator will be implementing ongoing engagement um with the task force leads and ensuring at a minimum to begin for the first year implementation of this project that um there be quarterly meetings and quarterly reporting to the county board of supervisors and management office as well as the localities involved. So there'll be again just a a lot of um public and internal tracking on this to make sure that progress is sustained. Um, one of the things with recovery, um, there can be recovery fatigue for things that are very long-term in these action plans. And so having that county structure and leadership in place to make sure that the momentum continues on this plan is is very key. Um, and we really emphasize, and you'll hear from the county team as these task forces begin to meet and incorporate, um, you all into the progress, um, that regionwide ownership of this plan is is key as well. Um this is truly a very interconnected region and making sure that um there's ownership at all levels, governmental and non-governmental for
the success and and revitalization of the economic health of the greater Grand Canyon region is is really key here. Um, our final uh uh piece of the story map is just a kind of a a public call to action to really outline again um you know this isn't a county uh plan. It's everyone's plan in the greater Grand Canyon region. Everyone who lives here, works here, visits here. um truly a special place and being able to outline these action items um and have the the structure in place for um very broad engagement to ensure that the greater Grand Canyon region can recover from these fires and and be more resilient um in the face of future disasters is really the goal here. Um so with that um you have any closing comments?
Questions? Oh uh questions? Thank you um for that presentation. Are there any questions from the council members? Oh, this time. This time I can't see you. Councelor Hammond, do you have a hand up because I can't see? No, I don't. I do appreciate the um information and um Manager Fowler, it's really good to see you although not in person. Okay, councelor Roundry,
good to see you, Oscelina. I just want to say my appreciation the level of response that you gave and concern to our community when you've been here before and the email updates and the regular text updates. Um, just thank you. You just kept us in the loop on what was going on and and and grateful for what the plan that you're moving forward. But my only question is is the restoration act that passed the House. um what do you chances are that it's going to pass the Senate? I mean, do you have any opinions on that right now or anyone that you would encourage us to send emails to to help the fight to get it to pass the Senate or Yes. Thank you. Uh yes, we want to uh thank Representative um Crane, Eli Crane, for um introducing legislation for the Grand Canyon Restoration Act and it has passed the House and now it's on the Senate side. We are actively working with our two senators and we're um they're looking at possibly including the forest uh Kaib National Forest into their legislation. So, we'll see how it all all works out, but I know they're working together. I know the staff are working together. We've made several visits to um to Congress and so I believe that it will pass. Yes.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much.
And so I just want to just thank you again. Just as you can see, this plan is a um is a living document and if anyone wants to get involved and wonder how to get involved, please contact us and we'll be able to get um you'll be you'll be able to get involved in some of the plannings that are scheduled. And this this is uh just going to be a very active uh document. And this as as you all remember we also did the Small Business Administration disaster recovery loan to businesses, nonprofit organizations, and self-employed um businesses. So those loans are still available until May 18th. So, if you know anyone that is has not applied and wants to ask questions, they can also contact the Small Business Administration. I want to thank um Tim and John for really working and putting that together. We had to get approval from our governor or uh her to be able to declare a disaster, economic injury disaster in our region after this uh board of supervisors uh took action. So I just want to thank you all and thank you for always working with us and we look forward to working with you and and moving forward. So this document is for action on the ground introducing it at the state and then then using it at the at the federal level as well. So you we're always here to help you and uh answer any questions if you have any later on. So thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. And these will be online as well. Thank you. I was going to ask you said by the end of the by a week they would be on. So say again where it will be. By a month too. Uh that will be on uh coino.az.gov/economic recovery. Um you'll be able to find the full plan and the story map that uh we just displayed. Thank you. How is council holding up? Do we need a brief break or are we good to keep going? I don't know. The old guys can use a break. Know that? Yes. Yes. For break. Yes. I will call a recess for try to make it 5 minutes.
Thank you. On a weekend, you know my shirt. Doesn't have to wear a non button shirt.
Who brought this? Oh, it just uh is on the back.
Yeah. I will reopen this regular council meeting. The time is 8:00. We are now at item number 102, Western Area Power Administration, Electric Marketing Services Agreement. This will be Brian Hill. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um, tonight, this one's kind of a heavy lift. Um th this is probably different from most everything else in municipal government, but we're talking about a power marketing contract. In short, we as a loaderving entity, we don't get to just hook up to WAPA and simply take power and then meter it. That would be nice. No, as a loadering entity, when we connect, we actually have to schedule, find the power, and then and then settle for any deviation. that that activity was done historically for Paige with U Amps up in uh Utah. We really didn't belong there for several business reasons. So we went to WA WA Mantros. They have the Crisp Mark marketing desk where they've done that for us since 2004. And it's just simply cost of service to do that work for us. We had a terrifying letter then sent to us in 20 end of 2023 that said, "Guess what? The the industry's going through big changes." That's true. We're not going to do this for you anymore. So, of course, we went on a hunt and um gee, what do we do? We got to find somebody. I mean, this would be if for Paige to try to do this on her own, we'd we'd have to have about roughly a staff of seven traders. um there'd be a couple hundred thousand a year each. We'd have to get we'd spend times to that for the for the the software to be able to try
to do that. We'd probably make a lot of errors. So, generally speaking, lower smaller entities like Paige, we pull that's what we were trying to do up there in Utah. Um, Arizona, we we we don't we're a state that doesn't have many, just a handful of m municipal power suppliers. Um, we're the second biggest in the state, for example. So, we don't have an entity in Arizona that does that. Even so, the the smaller entities that are doing that are down in in southern Arizona. They're kind of going a different direction. So, we explored that. We also explored going with Desireette. That's they do mostly co-ops. They everything with with them though and and down south we're going to be contracting with with trading entities that are for profit and in going into pools that are for profit. So you could see where this was going to greatly increase our cost. Fortunately, after a lot of discussion, um, WAPA changed their mind and the Montro Crisp desk there in in Montro agreed to continue to do Pa's work with this. We'll be the only non-federal entity to do this. And one of the justifications or one of the reasons is who's the more crisp than Paige, the crisp act form page. So with a lot of that and gladly announced that WAPA has agreed to move forward with Paige shouldertoshoulder. That's the the contract that you have for you in front of you tonight. A lot of the big changes are the regional transmission operators are are um coming together. This is because we're trying to squeeze more and more out of less and less generation resource. So when I say we
have to market, we have to go out and find the the resource hour to hour, forecast that, schedule it, purchase it. We are there's actually bidding processes on that. So it's there's a lot involved. and you have to find the transmission resource to bring it into page from out from out there out out in the uh area. Whereas we used to have individual transmission operators like APS would have one. Public Service New Mexico, WAPA has a separate one. Um up in Colorado you have uh Desireette um excuse me you have u um Tri-State G&T that does San Miguel and Empire there at Dutton. Those those are all pools that they get to work with. Paige we're out here on a culde-sac and there's really no place else for us to economically to go. So with that this this contract um there's still questions. The commitment we made to to get WAPA to do this is to move shoulder-to-shoulder with them and and see how this new this new business profile is is going to work out. There's still questions. One thing that that has really kind of spooked a lot of us in in the power industry in in the all federal system is our hydro power situation. That means that we're going to have to import more market power which you you already see in the in the GM reports now. We're getting more and more reliant on market power. So until um Telleluride can send us more snow and fill up our lake and we can run more water through the dams that that's going to be a pressure point and that makes WA's job even a little more complicated where I'm grateful that they move forward. There a lot of moving
pieces to this a lot of hair if if I'm happy to answer any questions. Um, I I do as your GM I think that this is a big win for Paige and we're fortunate that WA is willing to continue to take us on. I open up for questions or a motion. Councelor Pharaoh first. I move to approve the WAPA contract number 25 SLC 1383 between WA and the city of Paige DBA. page utility enterprise for electric marketing services. I second it. Second.
We have a motion from councelor Pharaoh and a second from councelor Roundtree. Comments and questions. Councelor question. Councelor Cojan. Councelor Peller. Are they the ones that dropped us the other day?
Um to answer the question specifically, I think there was a combination of things that took place. Whenever you drop transmission, uh there was some switching errors and then you you don't just throw the switch back on. You go out and visually check, make sure that there's no damage. You can create a a sizable fireball and um and then we do a bunch of checks. So that takes um 15 to 20 minutes before we can bring everybody back on. Once we drop the the 69 KV bus over in the guapa switchyard, we're done until we can restore things and there's a lot of sequence to doing that. Council Prowler,
um before totally voting yes on this, I just want to um ask if uh if you're saying that our our hydropower future is looking uh rocky, um what is it going to take for us to start to strategically move at uh maybe producing our own power? Um, is that something that you want we would need the board your your board's buy in on or council or what how would we approach that because we could inhouse it since we own the utility?
That that is a fair question. Generally speaking, what page is roughly a 25 to 30 megawatt load. With that being said, even a small natural gas combined cycle unit where you have a reasonable heat rate that's fairly economical to to fire is 150 megawatts. So normally um that's why you get into a joint action agency where other small entities come together to do such a project. We did that way back in 999 2000 and that was called the PAC project. There was a lot of problems with Paige, as it turns out, participating in that project. And I I could go into a whole bunch of techno babble and I'll I'll spare you. But re regardless for a for an entity our size when a when a government marketing desk is willing to go out to the market and purchase power and pull in with the other federal they have other federal loads like a military base and some other things up in Colorado that they'll that they're still going to do this for. they have this gener they have this um hydro resources and then when they when they cannot meet schedules with water they have what they call western replacement power so they go out and buy a lot of power out there on the market and Paige is just a recipient pulled in there if you will that's our pool is that western replacement power I have not seen a proposed project that makes sense events for Paige to participate in, but we're always looking.
All right, councelor Roundtree, I just want to say appreciate the work and the level of negotiation. I mean, this was a difficult thing for you to pull off and I'm grateful for all the work and recognize it and thank you. Yes. Okay, we have the motion and we have have the second. All in favor say I. I. I couldn't hear her. Councelor Hammond, did you say hi? Did we lose her? I guess I'll call for Naz. No, I think you must be muted or something.
Yeah, sorry. I had my finger on the wrong mute button. I'm in favor. Okay, motion passes unanimous. Thank you. Item number 103, non-disclosure agreement policies. Um, this one was asked to come back as an agenda item for trying to facilitate clear understandable policies when it comes to any NDAs or possibility of NDAs in the city structure. Is that right, councelor Roundtree?
Yes. So, I think we need to discuss it first as new business before we decide what we want to make a motion on. But I asked for this to be placed on because um there's been a big huge misunderstanding um that this council is using NDAs and we aren't. This it's been a year. We have not um asked for or approved of and um are not in favor of DNA NDAs. And so I wanted us to consider a resolution um directing staff um about how we feel about NDAs. Um there's a lot of different I've researched different towns. I'm not sure if it ended up being an example of one of the ones I found if if it's on here or not. We can go as far as stating some councils say that if staff does want to do an NDA, they have to come to council for approval first. um so that we're not surprised because in the past um city employees were assigning NDAs and then we're legally bound and then council is stuck with these NDAs. Um so it's just open for discussion and what we want to do but my um desire would that we would create a resolution and make a statement that would go into the record on directing staff and how we feel about NDAs. Any other comments right right at the moment? So if I if I understand correctly, there are some rare circumstances in which an NDA is very needed when you're dealing with security possibly or
proprietary information. Proprietary information. But otherwise, it's my understanding our current city manager doesn't doesn't want to use NDAs.
Yeah. Would you give us a history um Josh about your feeling about NDAs and So NDAs are I guess the the first thing to start with is that the city can't contract around the law. So there are um there are laws that make most of what the city does a public record and all the records that we create, the records that we receive um etc are open to the public. We cannot enter into a contract that changes state law or supersedes state law. We're still governed by the law. The law does make some information that's confidential or proprietary. It keeps it confidential where we don't have to disclose that information. Um the non-disclosure agreements that we've signed essentially restate the law. They don't create any new confidential information that wouldn't otherwise be already confidential because of the law. So from a staff perspective, I think and Frank is more than welcome to I think we're on the same page with this. We don't have any intent to sign non-disclosure agreements. In the past, it hasn't been staff that's asked for them. We may have someone that comes to the city and says, "Hey, we really want a non-disclosure agreement." And I tried to explain them to them, it does nothing for you. It doesn't protect you. It doesn't create any confidential information. If you give us information that is is public record by the law, we have to disclose it regardless of whether we have an NDA with you. Um, so I think Frank and I are on the same page as far as we're not in favor of them. We don't intend to, you know, pursue them with with people without coming to council. We're fine if council wants to direct. Hey, don't ever sign these without coming to counsel.
That would be okay. Um, I don't from a staff perspective or from your lawyer's perspective. I don't think we need a lot of policies around them because there are pretty rare. We did have a we did have a rash of requests for NDAs and that turns out it's because we had a member of staff at the city that was telling people that they needed them and that's why we were getting so many requests. Outside of that, we almost never get requests for NDAs. Um, so it would be a very rare situation that we would bring one to you where we would, you know, perhaps recommend that you sign it or or ask if you uh, you know, ask for your direction on signing it. As far as doing a resolution, my recommendation would be um, if we want something that's in the record and written, um, the the challenge with resolutions is they get forgotten pretty quickly. They go in a file in the clerk's office and in five ten years when you got a new council, you may have a new lawyer, you got you may have a new city manager, nobody remembers that the council passed this resolution. If you want to give us direction in writing and make it to where everybody knows what it is, just put it in the code. Let's pass an ordinance that says just like the city manager can't spend over $100,000 without council approval, the city manager can't sign an NDA without council approval. Let's just put it in our code and it's there and if we get the request, we'll bring it to you. If that's the direction that council wants to move, I would recommend that. Otherwise, what I foresee happening in 10 years, 15 years is nobody remembers that that resolution was passed and then people violate it unknowingly and you know it becomes a thing.
Councelor Pharaoh and then councelor Pller. Uh, I recommend we follow your suggestion and direct staff to create an ordinance that could be presented to council to memorialize your comment. And I second it.
Have a motion from councelor Pharaoh and a second from councelor Roundtree. Councelor Prowler comment. Um, I just want to ask if that was adopted, um, would the NDA be did like the hypothetical NDA between the city manager and Megga Corp? Um, would that be an executive session? Would we be be disclosing who the NDA is with? How would that work? We would we would bring it to you under the contract. I mean, that's how we would propose on the on the agenda. Of course, council always has discretion whether to go into executive session, but that's how, you know, if it were me putting it on an agenda, that's how I would put it on there would be an executive session under contract negotiations um to bring the specific terms and basis for the NDA for council to approve or give direction on.
Okay. Thank you, Councelor Hammond. Um quick question. our city manager has already um made the effort to um to do away with the NDA that was related to the data center which I applaud him for. Um I guess my question is if there are still NDAs in existence from before, how would this resolution affect those?
It wouldn't um because this is forward-looking. So, this wouldn't even take effect for 30 days after you pass it. That the NDA with the um with the data center uh group is going to be terminated. We had to give so many days notice and that I don't think we've quite hit that yet, but we're close. So, that one would be We have one other um agreement that's out there and that one has a specific term on it. Uh so, I believe it right we can't we can't get rid of that one. Um, but the reality is, like I said before, it really doesn't do anything. Um, it's just there. Um, and we would keep confidential whatever is made confidential by the law. If it's not confidential by the law, we disclose it.
Okay. Thank you. Any other comments or questions?
Councelor Hinger. Uh something that was helpful for me to understand about the NDAs is to our city attorney's point that they don't really provide much protection. Um the one thing that they do is if we are doing if there is a public records request and we're going to disclose information. Uh the party gets to review it. They have 14 days to review it and potentially do a lawsuit if they think there's anything proprietary in there that we shouldn't be sharing. So it's a very small protection. Um, but I I think that's why we've had companies in the past request it. It gives them the chance to try and stop any public records requests, but I really like moving forward with this new direction. All in favor of the motion say I. I.
I. I. Any nays? Okay. Motion passes unanimously. That was clear enough. Yes. So, you will bring that back to us. Okay. Okay. Item number 104, resolution 1340-26, permanent base adjustment. Um, city clerk, will you please introduce the resolution? A resolution of the mayor and city council of the city of Page, Cookanino County, Arizona, proposing a permanent adjustment to the 1979 80 base expenditure limitation.
Clarification to the council. The reason why this came back before us, city clerk, was because one number used was incorrect and an auditor caught it. There were some there were some inconsistencies in the in the numbers that were used initially and so that it was just a correction. Um, it was done by a fiscal year error. So, it's all corrected now and this is the new number. Councelor Cojan. Mr. I move to adopt resolution number 1340-26. Second. Motion from councelor Kojan. A second from was that councelor Preller. Yes. All in favor say I.
I. I. Any opposed? Okay. Motion pass unanimously. Thank you. We've re we've arrived at executive session 11. We have three of them. Number one, ordinance 750-26, existing uh amendment to existing purchase agreement with Tribal Hospitality. Item two, property purchase contract amendment for Valco commercial properties. And item three, amendment to existing purchase agreement with Trout Land Development. Councelor Roundtree.
Um it's been a few months, but we had asked that when we go into executive sessions that um staff give us just a brief what each one of these items are. And I'd like to go back to us doing that again. Just You mean brief out here? Yeah, a brief out here about what each one of these are so that when we go into executive session that it's more clear to the public and that we're um being more transparent what all of this means for each one of these items. Is there a staff member that would like to just give us a brief on those three?
And and so most of these most of the attachments are actually in the public part of the agenda. For the first one, um it's a it's an ordinance with a contract um amendment to the original purchase agreement that we have with Tribal Hospitality based upon their presentation today. Um and that that ordinance and contract is is um all available to the public in our agenda packet. Uh the second one is to um again is also available to the public. It's a request for a contract amendment to Valco Properties. This is an existing uh real estate purchase agreement that we have. They're asking to extend the deadline to close. That's basically it on that one. And then the last one is another amendment to an existing real estate purchase agreement that we have um to make some uh modifications. This is for down um in the Ranchettes. The the development down there with the new houses being built. Uh the original purchase agreement contemplated five phases for that and the developer is pretty much finished up with phase one and now wants to move on to additional phases and would like to discuss some amendments to the contract um as it relates to the phasing and the timing of the phasing.
Thank you. Okay. Looking for a motion to go into an executive session. Councelor Pller. Sure. Sure, Mr. Mayor. I motion to go into executive sessions for items uh 12, one, two, and three. 11, 11, 1,2, and 3. Sorry, I put the paper away. I have a second. I have wait I'm sorry, councelor Hammond. I I didn't Who who said the second? I did. So, we have a motion from councelor Peller and a second from councelor Pharaoh. Councelor Hammond, I'm sorry. I didn't see your hand fast enough.
That's okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, I just want to again remind the public that there are specific reasons we are allowed to go into executive session. Um, tonight we have things to discuss in terms of negotiating contracts, asking for legal advice, and possibly security concerns, which are the three reasons that allow us to have these discussions behind closed doors. However, the discussion uh the debate about whether or not the we're going how we're going to vote on these items belongs in the public. And I think that um we've all seen since we've hired our new public information officer that we need to do a better job of having making sure that all of those points are are in the public so that he has more information to share. Again, in the interest of transparency, many of us ran on that and I think we still have room to improve, although it has gotten better in the past year, I think. Um so with that, I just want to encourage everybody to save your arguments for or against these items for the public session, whether that's now or later. I personally would like to make a statement now before we go into executive session in favor of ordinance 750-26. I know we've talked about it a lot tonight, but I just have five more points to make. Um, first just wanted to recap that tax revenue from the Treebull Hospitality Resort Tan Arena, if it goes through, will benefit our schools and our hospital greatly in addition to all of the other benefits that we've talked about already. Um, we talked a little bit about Alexander Vick's um, experience with mountain bike trail development and what a great partner he will be with that, but also his partner Carrie Vic, who's the other um, investor, has a strong commitment to the arts and especially in our community. I don't think anybody's ever done a study, but I just I h I have a personal bias that I think um, our community harbors more artists on per capita than other places. I'm just going to go ahead and say that. And so I think that she'll be
a great um partner in um helping to elevate um artist careers as well.
Um I also want to mention from the economic development advisory board presentation a couple of points that that we didn't hear tonight. One is that the developers are committed to local benefits um like keeping open dining um spa resorts and they've even talked about offering special discounts for offseason rates which I think would be an additional benefit to the community. Um, I believe that the developers are philosophically aligned with council priorities for economic development, preserving our natural beauty. Um, all of that I want to emphasize that if we go forward with this ordinance, 80% of the Red Mesa recreation area will remain as is, including the disc golf course and most of the mountain bike trails. Um yeah, in closing, I think my final argument there is that um while we can't, we live in such a beautiful area. Wouldn't it be nice if we could protect a 360 bubble around all of us at all times of all the nature, but we can't do that and grow at the same time? Um, so I think that when we think about the future livelihood of 200 people, um, compared to the very small impact on trails, especially in light of the fact that this deal offers us the opportunity to expand our trail system overall and very strongly in favor of this ordinance.
Okay. All in favor say I. I. I. Did you? Any opposed? Any opposed? Motion carries. Let's go into executive session. will return.
on um I will reopen the regular city council meeting. The time is 9:16. We will start with executive item or item 111, ordinance 750-26, amendment to existing purchase agreement with Tribal Hospitality. I have a hand from councelor Hammond. Oh, wait just a moment. What do you need to read? I forgot. Do I need to read the ordinance?
Oh, you need to introduce the ordinance before we Okay. An ordinance of the mayor and city council of the city of Paige, Cookanino County, Arizona, pertaining to the sale by negotiation of real property owned by the city of Paige and approving an amendment to the agreement for the purchase of real estate. Now, Councelor Hammond. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'd like to move that we adopt ordinance 750-26 for the amended sale to Tribal Hospitality. Second. We have a motion from like to make amendment councelor Hammond and a second from councelor Pharaoh. Go ahead councelor with you want to make an amendment.
I'd like to minute to say that the $1,840,935 goes to parks and bricks capital projects second. That works the way it's worded. Yeah, you would have to vote. I know I know how to do the vote going backwards, but but the wording of the amendment. Yeah. Okay. We have a amended amendment to the motion from councelor Cojan and a second to that amendment from councelor Hammond. All in favor of the amendment to the motion say I. I. I.
Any opposed? The amendment passes unanimous. So now we will ask for the vote on the amended motion. Um and comments first. Uh councelor Roundtree,
I just everyone realizes how difficult of a decision that's been for me and um I had to do the pros and the cons and a lot of people who spoke tonight who've already left um ended up influencing my decision for this evening. So, I appreciate the community coming out and helping me make the tough decision and um living here as long as I have. Every project has always had something to do about preserving our view. And we live on a messa and it it's been pretty difficult all these years to um preserve the view because you can't because there's a view everywhere. And so, I just appreciate the debate, the information that's been given and for those who spoke tonight helping me finally make this final um tough decision. Thank you,
Councelor Peller.
Um, I just want to say that I am uh in favor of uh Tannerina um being built here and the jobs it's going to provide and um the the economic impact it's going to have. Um, I just wish that we would have been able to um negotiate some more on this. I'm not by any means opposed to developing that land. I just don't think um where we're voting on right now is the particular shade of gray I like. Any other comments, questions? Okay. All we have the amend we have the amended motion and a second. All in favor say I.
I I I. Any opposed? Nay. Do you need You don't need a Okay. The motion passes six to one. Okay. Item number 112, property purchase contract amendment for Valco commercial properties portion of partial 80216009J. Do I have is that that one does not require a reading from you? Correct. No, it's not. Um, councelor Frell,
I'm going to move to approve the fourth amendment for Valco commercial properties and authorize the mayor to sign. Second. I'd like to make an amendment. Okay. I'd like to Let me Let me tell the names first. We have an amend We have a motion from councelor Pharaoh and amendment I mean and a second from councelor Cojan. Councelor Rantry. I would like to amend that the um amendment include the removal of their non-disclosure agreement. We have an amendment to go to the to add on to the original. Do I have a second for the amendment? Second.
We have a second from a motion from councelor an amendment to the motion from councelor Roundtree and a second to that amendment from councelor Hammond. Any other discussion? Councelor Hedinger. Uh our city attorney can correct me if I'm wrong, but all the NDA provides them is the ability to review what we are going to what we are legally obligated to provide in the event of a public records request. So I don't think it's necessary to remove the NDA at this time. Is that correct? Yeah. Okay. Councelor Roundtree. I think this non-disclosure does more. It's five pages.
Okay. Personally, I I think the NDA is not necessary to be there myself, but um Okay. So, we have the amendment and a second. So, we're going to vote on the amendment making the amendment to the original. All in favor say I. I. Opposed? I may the amendment fails. 5 to two. Do a roll call. You want to do a roll call vote on that one? Okay. Mayor Kidman. Nay. Vice Mayor Pharaoh. Nate. Councelor Hammond, I. Councelor Pellar, nay. Councelor Hettinger, nay.
Councelor Roundtree, I. Councelor Cochen, nay. Thank you. Okay, so to the original motion which was made by councelor Pharaoh, right? And seconded by councelor Cojan. All in favor say I. I. I.
Any opposed? Thank you. Motion carries unanimous. Item number 113, amendment to existing purchase agreement with Trout Land Development. That one was just to instruct staff to proceed as discussed and come back to us with a contract. Correct. Okay. Okay, with that I will adjourn the regular meeting. Our next meeting is on Wednesday, April 8th at 5:30. Thank you.
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