City Council - Regular Meeting

Good evening. I want to call the meeting to order for Oxnard City Council for Tuesday, June 30th, 2026. Madam Clerk, may we have the roll call and posting of the agenda, please.

Councilwoman Basuwa? Here. Councilmember Parralo? Here. Councilwoman Perez? Here. Councilwoman Rodriguez? Present. Councilman Starr?

Here.

Mayor Pro Tempteran?

Here.

And for the record, Mayor MacArthur is absent. The agenda for this meeting was posted in the kiosk at City Hall, the Oxnard Public Library, the City Administrative Offices, and on the City's website on Thursday, June 18. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Prior to closed session, we will take public comments on the closed session agenda. Anyone wishing to make a comment, please proceed to do so. In the meantime, can the city attorney provide a statement prior to closed session?

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. The city council will recess to a closed session pursuant to government code section 54956.9 subdivision D1 to confer with its attorneys. The matters being discussed are Campbell, versus City of Oxnard at all, and Bentley versus City of Oxnard.

Thank you, Mr. City Attorney. Madam Clerk, do we have any speakers for public comments prior to closed session?

Mayor Pro Tem and Council Members, there are no requests to speak in person or virtually for closed session. Thank you.

Thank you. The Council will recess to closed session and reconvene for the regular meeting at 6 p.m. Thank you. Okay, the council has emerged from closed session and we'll ask the city attorney for any announcements to make.

Mayor Pro Tem, there are no actions to report out of closed session this evening. Thank you very much.

So good evening, everyone. I wanna call the meeting to order for the Oxnard City Council Tuesday, June 30th, 2026. Madam Clerk, we may have the roll call.

Councilwoman Bessoua here councilmember Perala Councilwoman Bettis here councilwoman Rodriguez present councilman star care mayor Pro tempter on here The agenda for this meeting was posted in the kiosk at City Hall the Oxford Public Library the city Administrative offices and on the city's website on Thursday, June 18th.

Thank you Thank you very much Next is the Pledge of Allegiance followed by a moment of silence and we have Leading us in the Pledge of Allegiance, followed by the moment of silence, and then we'll hear a little bit about him, is Mr. Romero Medina from EMS Corps.

And for the moment of silence, please, if you can remember, public safety officials, fire, police, various people, help this community. Recently, we lost three firefighters on the border of Utah and Colorado. Two firefighters seriously injured. Please keep their families and thoughts in your prayers. One was 38, two were 27. I imagine they have young families. Thank you.

If I could add to the moment of silence to all the families from the devastating earthquakes in Venezuela, please.

Place your right hand over your heart. Ready, begin. I pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you all. Okay, Mr. Medina, the floor is yours. Good evening, council members. My name is Ramiro Medina. I'm a recent graduate of the Oxnard EMS cohort three. and proud to be from Oxnard, born and raised here in Oxnard, and still currently live here in Oxnard. Growing up in my community, I saw firsthand how important emergency medical services are and the positive impact our first responders have on people's lives. And this motivated me to pursue a career in EMS. I came across EMS Corps during my search, and it's been the best decision I've ever made. Being from Oxnard, we have a sense of pride being from the city and having a program like this has been extremely beneficial. From the incredible staff, the Oxnard Fire Department and all those involved and all the valuable knowledge and hands-on skills and the confidence I've gained through the program has been extremely rewarding. And like I said, I'm from Oxnard and just being someone from Oxnard, I'm grateful to have the opportunity to learn from these professionals here from Oxnard and hopefully one day take these skills and hopefully serve the community the same way they do. And I just wanna thank everyone here. That's all I have.

Thank you, Ramiro. Actually, hang out for just a few moments longer. Do you have some folks here with you today from FHIR or EMS Core?

Yes, so we have the two chiefs, and then we have who's one of the lead instructors or directors of the program.

Thank you. We have this certificate for you for leading us today and for sharing with us a little bit about your story and your journey. So if you want to come up and you can invite your supporters here as well.

All right.

Already broken. Okay.

So we have this certificate of achievement for you, Ramiro, for all of your hard work and your dedication to the EMS Corps and to yourself and to furthering you towards your goals. And so it is signed by the mayor, Luis A. MacArthur. And we want to thank you for being here, for leading us in the Pledge of Allegiance, but also keep up the great work. You're doing good stuff. You're making your city, your community, your family proud of you. So awesome job. Congratulations. And do we have any words from the chief or our instructors who'd like to share a little bit?

No. Well, yes.

Some people can hear you.

I can hear myself. Good evening, everybody. Thank you for, first of all, all of your support in this program, Chief. It would not be possible without all of the work that you guys do day in, day out. Whether you think it affects it directly or indirectly, it's making an impact on these students here locally. And we're excited to have them. We're excited to see where they're going. We just had, from our first cohort, two students just enroll in paramedic school, hopefully be serving their community in further capacity. And we're looking forward to the things that you're going to do specifically. So congratulations.

Thank you.

All right. Any final words here? Let me know. I just have a funny story. MacArthur was actually he organized the Powell Soccer League and I grew up playing soccer here and I remember him like very vividly. So this is like a full circle moment for me. So it's I mean, from him being a police officer to then. being the mayor, it's pretty cool to see. And then for me, being a young boy playing soccer and him organizing that, and then now being up here, it's rewarding again, like I said during my speech. You have a sense of pride being from Oxnard, all the opportunities we have here, and without you guys, that would not be possible. Thank you. Thank you very much.

We'll send those remarks to the mayor. All right, so let's get a photo here for you. Thank you very much. Let's have another round of applause for Ramiro and his supporters up here. Okay, we're going to move into our ceremonial items now, so don't take your seats yet. So item F, ceremonial items. This evening we have one item, presentation of the 2026 Ventura County Fair poster. And Let's please welcome President Guillermo Serra Jr. and Director Miriam Mack, who will share remarks about the upcoming fair, as well as some youth leaders they have brought with them. Hi again. Great job.

Hello, my name is Marissa Calderon and I am a 10th grader from Fillmore, California.

Hello, my name is Aurora Arellano. I'm from Oxnard, and I'm a graduated senior.

Hi, my name is Milo Pella, and I will be a sophomore at Fulmer High School.

We are members of the Ventura County Junior Fair Board. The JFB is an organization for high school students throughout Ventura County focused on youth leadership, development, and community engagement. During the fair, we put on classic games like watermelon eating and karaoke.

We are here on behalf of the Ventura County Fair to present the official 2026 Fair poster. Over 300 young artists submitted their work for consideration this year's youth poster contest. We have seen a remarkable increase in submissions over the last few years and can attribute that to the elimination of any fee to enter the competition. The incredible artwork created by Ventura County youth never ceases to amaze us. Submissions were judged by a panel of community partners and their fair team members. The winners were announced as, in third place, Simon Shapiro, a sixth grader from Simi Valley. In second place, Mika Sanchez, a 10th grader from Ventura. And this year's winning poster was drawn by Annalise Cohen, a ninth grader from Camarillo.

We are excited to share that the Grandstand Concert lineup for the fair is July 29th, Bush, July 30th, Marshmello, July 31st, Eeration, August 1st, Jake Owen, August 2nd, Gerencia de Patrones, featuring Vanda and Magwe and Benatoro. August 3rd, Ashanti and Bow Wow. August 4th, Switchfoot and Hoopstank. August 5th, Nate Smith. Three days of rodeo, August 7th through 9th. We'll have special admissions days on Wednesday, July 29th, $5 before 5 p.m. Friday, July 31st, Youth Day. Tuesday, August 4th, Seniors and Persons with Disabilities Day. Wednesday, August 5th, VCC Youth Member Day. Thursday, August 6th, Community Heroes Day. Friday, August 7th, Food Share Day.

We would also love to see you at the Junior Livestock Auction on Friday, August 7th, where exhibitors and hundreds of other Ventura County youth exhibitors will be selling our livestock projects. We hope to see you all at the fair.

Yeah, hi. Guillermo Serra here. I'm proud to be standing next to our Junior Fair Board members. You know, this gives them an opportunity to work on their public speaking and to meet all the different city councils in the county. We're going one by one and presenting posters like this. So we look forward to seeing you all at this year's fair. Come on out.

OK, thank you. I'm Miriam. I'm on the fair board too. And our theme is find your fun. So we've got an entire new carnival with new rides. Wristband days are every day. And we have actually a new policy. I'm going to leave this with our city council. It's a clear bag policy. So we're encouraging everybody to bring a clear bag. Don't bring so much stuff. empty water bottles, and that's for all of our protection. I think they're going to be some clear bags to be purchased if you didn't bring it. So the website's got everything. I encourage everybody to take the free shuttle. Parking's $20. But we have free shuttle Transportation, I think, at the Oxnard PAL, and the Government Center, Ventura High School, De Anza High School, the Kimball Community Park, $10 to park at the State Beach, so try the free ones. So anyway, we're very excited, and thank you very much for having us.

Just tilt it a little bit because of the reflection.

Tilt it down?

No, no. Like this. Yeah. There you go.

There you go.

We go ready, and we go ready, and one more. Got it. Thank you. Thank you all very much.

Thank you.

I'm so excited. Thank you. Already I'm having fun. Yes.

I love it. Thank you all. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks again.

There you go, Mayor Putnam.

Thank you. All right, that's it.

Just hang it up.

Thank you. All right, the next item on the agenda is item G, public comments for items not on the agenda and non-action items. A person may address the legislative body only on matters not appearing on the agenda and within the subject matter jurisdiction of the legislative body. Speaker requests shall be submitted and set forth on the first page of this agenda. Speakers are limited to three minutes. After 30 minutes, if all speakers have not had the opportunity to speak, The remaining speakers will be given an opportunity to speak prior to adjournment of the meeting. The legislative body cannot enter into a detailed discussion or take action on any items presented during public comments at this time. Such items may only be referred to the city manager, executive director, secretary for administrative action or scheduled on a subsequent agenda for discussion. Persons wishing to speak on public hearing items should do so at the time of the hearing. Anyone wishing to speak on items not on the agenda and non-action items, please come forward. You may fill out a speaker card or if you're joining virtually, press star nine to raise your hand. Madam Clerk, I have an initial stack here of speakers. We'll first start with Larry Stein to be followed by Joseph Dovinsky Jr.

GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, STAFF, MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE, AND PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING TO THIS MEETING. I'M SPEAKING REGARDING MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED SALES TAX. THE SALES TAX IS BASICALLY A RENEWAL AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME OF MEASURE O. THIS IS A SALES TAX CONTINUANCE. DESPITE THE LANGUAGE IN THIS MEASURE, IT'S STILL A GENERAL SALES TAX. THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE ABLE TO SPEND THE MONEY ANY WAY HE WANTS TO. EVEN THOUGH THE LANGUAGE SPECIFIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, WE'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR A NUMBER OF ITEMS, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT COMES DOWN TO THE FACT THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN SPEND THE MONEY ANY WAY HE WANTS. A LARGE PORTION OF IT MAY BE GOING TO PUBLIC SAFETY. Now, public safety we do need, but public safety has a headcount percentage of 39% of total headcount of city employees. But public safety still takes 50% in the budget. Perhaps a reallocation of funds might make an adjustment more satisfactory to me, THE FACT THAT A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF GENERAL FUNDS BEING USED BY PUBLIC SAFETY AND SPENDING USED FOR OTHER THINGS LIKE FREIGHT REPAIRS AND PARK REPAIR. THE CONTINUATION OF THE SALES TAX SHOULD BE AVOIDED. THE CITY HAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN SALES TAX ALREADY. THE LAST PROPOSITION AND ADDITIONAL SALES TAX SHOULD NOT BE PRESENTED. THE PURPOSE OF MEASURE OIL INITIALLY WAS TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR ONE TIME PROJECTS. SUCH AS A SWIMMING POOL. THE SWIMMING POOL HAS NOT BEEN BUILT. THE OTHER ONE-TIME PRODUCTS HAVE NOT BEEN BUILT. WE HAVE OTHER NEEDS SUCH AS THE SEA WALLS, AND THERE'S NO FUNDING SET ASIDE FOR SEA WALLS, SO I SUGGEST THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS A SALES TAX. IT SHOULD BE PASSED BY TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY WITH A SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF THAT SALES TAX, NOT A GENERAL SALES TAX. Again, the City Council has the discretionary to say that the budget should not be allocated all by the City Manager at his discretion at the budget hearing meeting. The City Council can say, look, we want our say at their meetings and not give it to the City Manager to appropriate any way he wants to. Perhaps the budget should be separated between headcount allocations and general funding allocations for administrative costs and overhead. that does not take place in the budget, has not taken place in the budget the last 30 years, perhaps it's time for a change. Again, I speak against the sales tax initiative. Thank you very much.

Thank you. And just as a quick reminder, typically after the speakers, we'll observe decorum, so we'll refrain from audible noise, booing, hissing, or applauding as well. Thank you. And so we have Joseph Dubinsky Jr. to be followed by Sarah Wachowski.

Good evening. My name is Joseph Dubinsky Jr. I'm a resident of Camarillo. I'm also the 805 UndocuFund Rapid Response Organizer for Ventura County. And I spend my mornings outside of the ICE field office tracking ICE activity. And just this morning, I had a far right chud who supports what ICE is doing repeatedly refer to me as the homophobic F slur. It might have been something I wore today. The numbers for the last month have been brutal for Oxnard. In the 805 area code, 2,249 people at least have been abducted. Ventura County has seen 1,081 of those at least. And in Oxnard, we have gone up to 226. The last two months have been particularly hard in Lemonwood, Cuesta, and other parts throughout Oxnard. Thankfully, both rapid response networks are out there every morning, making sure ICE is playing by the rules that they're supposed to be playing by, and if not, making sure that people know about it. What I do want to talk about, though, are some of the systemic concerns that the undocumented community faces right now, and in two very particular ways. One has to do with the DUI checkpoints that are happening right now, and the second has to do with fears of calling 911. Regarding the DUI checkpoints, everyone knows that ICE is not at those checkpoints. They know that OPD is not working with ICE. That's not the problem. The problem is the system that exists, because if anybody does get picked up through a DUI checkpoint, they're going to go to jail, and the minute they are released from jail, ICE will know that they're being released from jail using the public website, and they'll probably be picked up. I don't have a solution to that problem, but it is a problem out there. The same goes for their unwillingness to call 911. Previously, we had been told by other officials that we are actively telling people not to call 911, and that is not the case in either rapid response network. What we are doing is feeding these concerns back to folks because they know if they call 911 and somebody that's involved pops a warrant, or does something that requires them to go to jail, they may be picked up the very next day by ICE. And so for those systemic concerns, it's never ever going to have the trust put back in law enforcement, especially with our folks going to the county jail afterwards and then being picked up because the sheriff has no concern at all with ICE being in there virtually every day to pick people up as they're being released. The last thing I'd like to ask the city council about, it refers to an incident that happened this morning near El Rio out by the Vallarta. There was a law enforcement training that took place that involved cars speeding through places, folks with automatic weapons and flak jackets. And we did not see it. We saw a sign that was about maybe this big that said police training happening here, but nobody knew about it ahead of time. I would ask just for like DUI notifications when you let us know that something like that's happening. We would also like to know about any particular police trainings that are happening in the city so we can curb the fear that people feel in this community, and rightfully so. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. We have Sarah Baczewski to be followed by, is it Ray? Just Ray.

Hi, good evening, City Council. So, Joe already went over the numbers, but I wanted to talk tonight about what people can do to help the undocumented community and help their neighbors. It doesn't take much if you can, as you're leaving, just take a look around and see if there are any ICE vehicles present. And if there are, you can call 805-UNDOCCUPOND at 805-870-8000. We will also have trainings if you want to get more involved coming up that you can find on our website at 805undocufund.org. And you can also check out our social media. And if you see something happening in your area, you can let your neighbors know who might not be aware. Just it's important that we all look out for each other. So thank you.

Thank you very much. Our next speaker is Ray to be followed by Sylvia Robles.

I got an additional speaker card.

I'm sorry?

In addition to Sylvia, I have another speaker card as you suggested.

We spoke before the meeting, Mr. Blattell.

I'm sorry?

We spoke before the meeting that you'll have three minutes tonight.

That's a group. It's more than one. Three is more than one. On June 16th, I appeared before the body to comment on the LMD assessments. Recall that for my LMD, our assessments increased a whopping 224%. If percentages mean nothing to you, The 224% means the assessment more than tripled compared to last year's. And why it is, it's beyond me. Notwithstanding, following my comments, a member of the city staff belittled and denigrated me. My character, which I don't appreciate, and I believe it's inappropriate for a member of the city staff to do so. Comments made that I was either negligent or perhaps even ignorant for not properly researching my property prior to purchase. Well, let's face it. The LMD assessments are nothing like HOA dues, wherein a purchaser of a used property is provided a four-inch thick ring binder containing all the CC&Rs. I've been an HOA. Alternatively, the LMD assessments are like a ghost fee that appears on your property tax bill. If you don't look at it, you don't even know it's there. Realtors don't mention the LMD assessment, and I seriously doubt that they even know they exist. My realtor didn't mention it, As a matter of fact, I've spoken to several original owners in my community, and even they said that the Centex rep, Centex was the builder of that whole community, never mentioned LMD assessments prior to them purchasing their properties. And other non-original owners in my community don't know what an LMD is either. It was also mentioned that if I knew the property was in an LMD, why did I buy it? But just as I mentioned, I did not know. I'm not saying it would not have... I purchased the property if I had known it was. However, it sure would have been nice to know. I'm not implying that the city's fault that I or anyone else was not informed. I guess that's the nature of the ghost fee. I had some pictures to show, probably not going to have time now, of the area in my LMD maintenance district. There was a median on Bahia that is just filthy, weeds, trash. I got an email here from the public works director saying the irrigation to the median comes from private property, Topper Shopping Center. In the past, the city has not been responsible for routine maintenance for the median landscape. In the past. In the past. Now, I find it strange. that the landscaping and the bushes and everything in that poppers area are all beautiful, maintained green, and here's this one spot that they don't care about. There's something strange going on there. Then on Caliente, there's no watering. It's been dead for months and months and months, according to that email from the public works director. Says the district had a couple of backflows stolen these past few months, and the... Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Blattell.

And just for the record, we did have the photos handed out by Mr. Blattell to the council, and they were shown briefly on the screen. And Madam Clerk, do we have these pictures to be entered into the record as well?

Mayor Pro Tem, yes, they will be included for the official record, and they will be on the website tomorrow morning.

Thank you. Thanks. Our next speaker is Sylvia Robles, to be followed by Dan Pinedo. No. Okay. She's declining to speak. Okay. Our next speaker is Mr. Dan Pinedo, followed by Mr. Eric Andrist.

That speaker card was a donation to Mr. Blattel.

Thank you. Just so we're clear here for the record, our council procedures say that a large group may give their time to a single speaker to represent them for a time of up to 10 minutes. Previous time, I did work with you, Mr. Blattel, when I was presiding, when you had virtual people who signed up to give you their time. If we had a large group here who was willing to give you your time, we would accept that. Last time, I think we gave you five people. If you had two additional people to give you time tonight, I can see that, but we'll have to revisit as a council what seating time looks like to people. But just to be fair, I'm going to give you your three minutes that you took. So thank you very much. And just to confirm, Ms. Robles and Mr. Piniello, you're not going to be taking your three minutes this evening. Correct.

Thank you.

Okay. We have Mr. Andrist followed by I believe we have a virtual speaker with their hand up, Madam Clerk.

What a joke this is becoming. Please play the video. Eric Andrist, public advocate. Tonight I want to address a pattern. The city attorney's office giving this council incorrect advice on public comment and this council deferring to it even when that advice creates legal exposure for the city. Steven Fisher has told this council the public does not get to comment on each agenda item. That is wrong and the proof is in Oxnard's own ordinances. In 2018, this council unanimously adopted the Sunshine Ordinance 2948 and Fisher signed it. Section 2-230C says every action item must give the public a chance to address this body before action is taken. And yet we have watched Fisher passive-aggressively reprimand the mayor for allowing exactly that. That is the city attorney contradicting an ordinance he signed. Measure M goes further. Three minutes to comment on any agenda item, not just voting items. Now look at tonight's agenda. It promises comment after each item is announced. And Section 2-230E requires staff reports come before comment. Yet comment on the city manager's report and the council reports is shoved into item G before either report is given. That is not an accident. It is the city attorney's office using procedure to stop the public from responding to what the city manager and this council actually says in defiance of the agenda's own rules and the ordinance Fisher himself signed. So let me be clear. When this council reports tonight, I intend to comment. If I am refused, the violation I am describing will have happened on camera against the rule printed on your own agenda. This is not the only barrier. When I submit a video comment, I am told I must appear in person, on Zoom, or by phone to introduce it. That appears nowhere in the code. Section 2-1.5 says the opposite. Reasonable accommodations shall be made to facilitate videos during public comment. I identified myself, submitted the video, treated my email as my speaker card, and provided the written copy. The city attorney's office added a condition the code does not contain. That is not facilitation, it is obstruction. This is bigger than me. The Santa Barbara County grand jury just warned that agencies create barriers when they make people believe speaker cards are required before they can speak. Oxnard is doing exactly that, and the mayor has been warned about this. Council members, this is your meeting. Staff advises you. Staff does not own the public's right to participate. When the city attorney's office narrows comment, blocks videos with unwritten conditions, and stops residents from responding to reports, that does not protect you. It exposes you. You may not like my style, but style is not the issue. The issue is whether Oxnard will follow its own open meeting laws. Right now, on camera, your own ordinances are being hollowed out by the city attorney's office, and this council is allowing it.

Okay, thank you, Madam Clerk. Can we have the virtual speaker, please? And if there are any other individuals who wish to speak before we close public comment for items not on the agenda, now would be the time to come forward. And then if you're on Zoom, please hit star nine to raise your hand.

Virtual speaker, if you can press star six to unmute and you have three minutes starting now.

Hello, this is Manuel Herrera calling. Madam Clerk, I submitted a video for you to play So, while you get that ready, I just wanted to use my extra time to give a message to the Aaron star clan in regards to the recall. You can try to shut us up by filing an complaint against us. And you can try to get us suspended on Nextdoor for posting videos about the recall, but your intimidation tactics will never work. Facts are facts, and facts cannot be disputed, no matter how hard you try. So Madam Clerk, if you would please play my video.

You might be asking yourself, why am I the one standing here at the podium instead of his own neighbors from District 3? The answer is simple. While many of your constituents want you gone, they have seen what happens to people who speak up against Aaron Starr and his small circle. They have seen you file lawsuit after lawsuit. They have seen the character assassination attempts. They have seen AI video hit pieces to mock people and twist the facts. That isn't leadership. This is a culture of intimidation that you, Aaron Starr, have built, fostered, and protected.

If you want to know what local political intimidation looks like, take a look at this. Right now, volunteers are working to give their neighbors in District 3 the choice to recall Councilman Aaron Starr in November. But instead of answering to the voters, the Starr camp seems to be trying to silence some of them. Someone filed an anonymous and frivolous complaint against two private citizens who posted videos criticizing Starr from their personal Facebook accounts. Then, according to sources, there may have been a coordinated effort to make mass reports to get one of those same residents temporarily suspended from next door just for sharing public information and lawsuit updates about Starr. Let's look at some of the unspoken facts here. Whoever filed the anonymous complaint knew at least a little bit about elections laws. And let's be real, Star's inner circle should know it well by now. But notice that they didn't argue that anything in those videos was false. They couldn't. The videos were entirely factual. Because they can't defend his record, are they now trying to weaponize inapplicable election laws? For what? To try and chill free speech? To intimidate everyday neighbors into submission? But honestly, this is typical of how Aaron Starr operates.

Okay, do we still have a speaker? He's ended.

Mayor Pro Tem, I believe he disconnected. Okay, thank you.

And we have an in-person speaker, Alicia Purcell. Excuse me, after Ms. Purcell, we'll go to the additional virtual speaker. Thank you.

Well, that was interesting. Mr. Herrera is sounding more and more desperate and trying to use this council's meetings to run a recall effort, but now he's just gone to making things up. pretending that he's some kind of victim, and this is a very convoluted plot that he's concocted. Political efforts are not always nice, but it's another thing to take things too far, as Mr. Herrera has on many occasions. He doxxed us in a post on his own Facebook account with 21,000 readers in an angry post about us, and Shortly after, I had a freshly swept driveway, and a nail appeared in a curious place in my driveway. That's never happened before. Luckily, I spotted it before I ran over it and destroyed a tire. We've had several meritless complaints filed against us. He's only had one. And these are all anonymous as well. AI videos, Aaron has never made an AI video, so I don't know why he's connecting Aaron with that. He mentioned an alleged coordinated effort to get him suspended on Nextdoor. I don't know what that is either. I argue back with him on Nextdoor. That's how I handle him. At the last council meeting, he played a video in which it showed a document when Aaron described his personal notes during council meeting as being on a document on his local hard drive not shared with anyone. The video went on to falsely allege, oh, well, it's probably a Google Doc, and he's using it to communicate with Alicia during meeting. False. Just false. Mr. Herrera has on Facebook and some of the recall proponents are telling people it's Aaron's fault the sports park hasn't been built at the corner of Gonzales and Oxnard Boulevard Falls. That's a 30-year project that has been sitting there for 30 years. you know, not being fulfilled to the West Village residents, a promise not fulfilled. You know, when I play games on my phone, sitting in council meetings or I text other people, Other friends that I have, you know, Aaron's not the only person I talk to. Mr. Perrello claimed, oh, I'm texting Aaron all through the meeting. No, false, false, guys. You're making assumptions and flinging accusations based on meritless assumptions. So this is what we get.

Thank you.

And can we have the next virtual speaker, Madam Clerk?

Yes.

And this is last call for anyone else in person or online who would like to speak. I see we have another hand that's come up.

Virtual speaker, if you can press star six to unmute and you can start your three minutes.

Hi, can you guys hear me?

Yes, please proceed.

Hi. Good evening, Mayor Partem and council. I am an avid watcher of the council meetings, first time commenter. And honestly, I struggled with with speaking up because it is a known fact that Mr. Starr and his mom, Ms. Purcell, they do come after people. Maybe they didn't file those reports, but they do come after people, them and their friends. And although many people support the recall, they're afraid to speak up because they don't want to get caught up in all that mess. So I just want to say that You know, Mr. Starr, on the newspaper article, you called us phony. Your website says something about the sham recall. And I'm very offended because we are not a sham and we're not phony and we're not made up. Like, I'm a real person. I signed. I am going to sign again so that we can get you on the ballot to get you recalled. you need to realize that this is not phony this is not made up this is not a game you are the people that you represent in your district um you know la colonia and rose park like you don't represent them you don't understand them and you're harming them um you know just uh And one of these past meetings for the five-year priorities, you threw a tantrum and you just sat there in silence. Why? Because you don't agree with the rules. You're like a little kid. You're losing and you don't want to play anymore. One of the council members even gave you the opportunity to speak your mind, to at least state what your thoughts are. And you just... You refuse to speak like your district is not even being represented by you. And they voted for you to represent them, not to sit there with your thumb in your mouth, throwing a tantrum and not say anything and not vote because you don't agree with the rules. I don't know Mr. Herrera personally, but I thank him. I thank him for being outspoken and for speaking the truth. What your mom said, what Ms. Purcell said is not true. You guys do do that stuff. If it's not you, like again, if it's not you personally, it's you and your friends. And it's just... It's just not working out. Thank you. Your time is up. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Madam Clerk, do we have an additional speaker?

Virtual speaker, if you can press star six to unmute.

Hello, Kenzo. How are you? This is Eduardo Huerta. Well, this is just a reminder of just hearing the same personalities, I mean, argue and kind of just really not concentrate on what's really important for our community. Right now, Gabe Turan is sitting as Pro Tem Mayor. Personally, you know, he has a little bit more control of where everything goes on in the city because at the end, he was backed up by obviously by Carmen Ramirez and a lot of the work concentrated on the Colonia area, the Colonia district. And so I think it's very important that, you know, Gabe takes control of, you know, a lot of his friends, you know, I'm not saying, you know, but a lot of families have a lot of control over the city. And so I think it's time for change. And I think it's time for our city council to wake up. Like, Gabriela, you're new on the council. it's really time for you to kind of just step in, take some control. You know, these are all personalities that really have put a lot of harm into our farm working community. A lot of labor laws have been broken. The work is really, really a lot of dedication behind the work. And so, you know, let's put value into the work and really concentrate on the issues that these communities really need. But, you know, to hear Erin start a feud with Herrera, that's just the same stuff. You know, it's just to sidetrack our community, try to get people into council that really don't protect our communities. And I think we need good representation. And I just personally, you guys all know my dedication to this community, my connection. And obviously, we sometimes look the other way, you know, on issues that are really important. And I think it's time that we take control of it. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, GUYS, AND GOOD LUCK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS, MADAM CLERK?

I'M HERE, PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, YES, WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL VIRTUAL SPEAKER.

OKAY.

VIRTUAL SPEAKER, IF YOU CAN PRESS STAR 6 TO UNMUTE AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES STARTING NOW.

ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU HEAR ME?

YES. PLEASE PROCEED.

Oh, hi. Good evening, Council and staff and the public. And I really wasn't going to speak tonight, but, you know, I just once again have to listen to Mr. Herrera go off with his pathological hatred of Aaron Starr. And I agree with Lalo. I think it's really a distraction. I think a lot of people in Oxnard are really getting tired of this sideshow. and i think that this use of the recall is inappropriate there is an appropriate use of a recall and basically recalls are just to get rid of bad apples and mr starr was elected he was elected by the voters of district 3 and he's been representing them to the best of his ability he comes prepared he hasn't changed his stance on anything that i've seen and i attend council and other meetings regularly now people may not like his stance they may not agree with his philosophy but that's okay i mean i think that's the way our system is supposed to work we're supposed to hash through disagreements to get to the ultimate goal and the ultimate goal is for you all on the dais to legislate in the best interest of the residents and i think mr starr has done that And I think it's unfortunate that we've got to go through this process that I think is very inappropriate. I think it is led by Mr. Herrera and his hatred of Mr. Starr. It's extremely unfortunate. I think a lot of our time would be better spent dealing with the issues that Ochsner deals with. Now, what's achieved by this? I mean, he is a minority vote on many votes. You all are getting your way. And it's my understanding there's actually a sitting council person that's been out with the crew for the recall effort. I feel that's inappropriate. I don't think that's a good look for Oxnard. I think if you have a disagreement with any councilman or concern, go to that councilman and voice your concerns, but don't waste resources time effort to try to remove someone who's just basically doing what the voters put him on the diets to do he's that voice for those people and let's be clear uh a lot of the efforts have been made if people really pay attention they'll see that the way the city spends money the way that they at times don't follow the rules, it's actually Mr. Starr who's holding them accountable to do a better job with our money and to give better services. And there's a lot of people hurting out there. And money matters. Our money matters. You know, you guys always need more money. It's never enough. But there's a lot of folks struggling. And it's Mr. Starr that stands up for those folks, like the rate payers.

Thank you for your time. Your time is up.

Okay.

Thank you.

Have a good evening.

Thank You madam clerk if there are no additional speakers Mayor Pro Tem and council members that concludes our speakers in person and virtually and that was actually 32 minutes.

Thank you. Thanks The next item on the agenda is item H report of the city manager executive director secretary.

Mr. City manager nothing this week mayor Pro Tem. Thank you Thank you very much

Next item in the agenda is item I, City Council, Housing Authority, Successor Agency, Financing Authority, Business Committee reports. At this time, a member of the legislative body may make a brief announcement or make a brief report on his or her activities. Further members of the legislative body may request to schedule consideration of whether to place an item on a future agenda. Legislative body cannot enter into detailed discussion or take action on any item presented during this report. The member's report shall not exceed three minutes unless additional time is granted by the presiding officer. I note that we have one speaker card and per our agenda, public comments on agenda items will be taken following the announcement of the item. After the item is announced, members of public may register or otherwise be recognized for the purpose of providing public comment. We are at that point. So Mr. Andrist.

You're actually supposed to do your comments first and then take public comment, but go ahead and play it. Eric Andrist, again, public advocate. Some of you remember this because I put it on the record back in April. On Easter Sunday at 6 in the morning, Councilman Bert Perello took the special use permit letter I had sent to this council and forwarded it to City Manager Alex Nguyen, to City Attorneys Stephen Fisher and Kenneth Rozelle, to a planning commissioner who would later have to rule on it, and to neighbors who he knew could be problematic. A permit application gift wrapped for known problem causers before the city had even responded to it. I thought that was a one time stunt. It wasn't. It looks like it's a habit for him to be seen taking down people who hold the city accountable. On January 23rd at 6.16 in the morning, Perrello took a post I had written on Nextdoor, a neighborhood social media website, and forwarded it to Jeff Pingilly, copying Kenneth Roselle, Stephen Fisher, Ashley Golden, and Alex Nguyen. Here is what that post was. I was asking my neighbors whether anyone knew a draftsperson who could help me, because the person who drew my blueprints had flaked out and helped delay my permit over 800 days. I wrote that I was hemorrhaging money and going broke. I was a resident asking other residents for help. I wasn't asking the city for anything. And before 6.30 that morning, a sitting councilman had packaged it up and delivered it to people he knows choose to make my life more difficult. Not help me. None of them lifted a finger. Apparently, Bert Parello had time at 6 in the morning to take a resident's social media post and route it to known provocateurs. But no time to actually help that resident. He wasn't doing his job. He was building a file on me. He's never once contacted me to talk about my side of things. All he does is try to stir up trouble, and I'm calling for him to be dismissed from his position. How much more is this city required to put up from him? Bert Parello won't tell you about this himself, so I will. I found out through a public record request, which is where I'm unearthing a treasure trove of scandal and corruption in the city, which explains exactly why they want to shut me up with an illegal communication plan that the city council knew nothing about and didn't approve. But this is the kind of high school gossip on the part of Bert Parello that is not acceptable for a sitting councilman. He needs to be removed and at the very least reprimanded. Consider this my official complaint, city manager. Eric Andrist again.

Okay, thank you, Madam Clerk. Do any council members have any announcements or anything to report? Please limit your comments to three minutes. We'll start with you, Councilman Perez.

Thank you, Mayor Pertem, for the recognition. I'll keep my comments pretty brief. Just based off the last council meeting, there's been a couple of events that I've been attending. Council Member Basu and I did meet with the DA on issues related to our districts. and looking forward to continuing any sort of collaboration going forward. I also joined many of you all on the dais for the groundbreaking of Campus Park. Later that weekend, I also attended the Polluter's Pay Town Hall put on by CFROG. Last Sunday, I also attended Blackstock Neighborhood Council's barbecue where I had the opportunity to connect with community members and the last comment that I'll be making is that I will be reaching out to all of our neighborhood council chairs in District 6 to kick off our quarterly meetings again. I know that was something that many of the chairs are interested in and it's just a great way to connect what's happening at the council level with what's happening right in the district in the neighborhoods. So looking forward to that, and that is my report.

Okay, thank you very much. Council Member Perillo.

Thank you. Had the opportunity to attend Fox Canyon Groundwater where residents for the city of Oxnard need to be aware you have the city of Oxnard fighting for your ability to get water, potable water. Attended a neighborhood cleanup. and was tremendously impressed with the amount of trash that was picked up out of a neighborhood and the staff that handled that. With respect to the entertainment that we just received, anytime someone sends a council member or anybody else an email, a video, or everything, and it's not identified as confidential attorney client, it's open season. What Mr. Enhart does at six in the morning, that's up to him. When I get stuff from individuals and they ask, Mr. Earnhardt's representative may be dealing directly with him. I share it with the city staff. And for those of you that may wonder why, it's not gossip. The individual making the presentation does an excellent job of bombarding our staff, claiming we are going after him. He didn't tell the city that his contractor is the one that ate him up, and he didn't explain. that he had stated falsehoods, that it was our staff.

Councilmember. Thank you very much. This is for Councilmember Updates. That was my comment. I appreciate that. Thank you. So, and can we please keep the quorum in the chambers? Thank you. Councilwoman Basuwa.

Like Councilmember Perez said, we did meet with DA Nazarenko. It was a very informative meeting and we look forward to continue that dialogue with his office. I ALSO ATTENDED ALONG WITH ALL OF YOU UP HERE THE GROUNDBREAKING OF THE NEW PARK, CAMPUS PARK. AND I ALSO WAS IN ATTENDANCE LAST WEDNESDAY AT LA COLONIA MEETING. VERY INFORMATIVE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

First of all, I'd just like to, on a personal note, I'd like to say thank you to my awesome wife for bringing iced tea to the meeting. Apparently, the caller's mistaken. She's not my mother. My mother is 89 years old and living in Mission Viejo, and she has never participated in a council meeting at all. I also attended the groundbreaking ceremony for Campus Park, 30 years in the making. Very thankful for the grants we received to make this possible. So we have some really competent staff who's been able to pull that off. And I'm appreciative that the local taxpayers are not having to pay for that. I attended the La Colonia Neighborhood Council meeting. At that time, there was a Sunkist Project Community Workshop presentation. And I believe that at no fault of the city or the neighborhood council, by the way, the agreed upon venue was yanked at the last minute. The meeting was moved to an outdoor location without microphones. It wasn't conducive to hearing a presentation. I think staff, in good faith, tried to come up with something that would work. And while the intentions were good, it just didn't work out, I think. People felt they were being disrespected and Don't blame them for drawing that inference As a city, I felt like we we disappointed folks and I'm certain that this will be handled better at a future workshop Which the applicant has agreed to be part of I do request that we provide an indoor facility to handle this and PERHAPS EVEN IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS SO THAT WAY THE LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO MAKE STATEMENTS AND HEAR WHAT THE PROJECT WAS ALL ABOUT CAN PARTICIPATE, NOT IN A BASEBALL STADIUM IN THE COLD WHICH WITHOUT ANY SOUND SYSTEM OR INTERPRETERS. IT JUST DID NOT WORK. One last thing. I guess there's a real avid pickleball community out there, because I was approached by one gentleman who was complaining that there are no pickleball courts in Oxnard. We have lots of tennis courts. And he is suggesting that perhaps we should look into converting a tennis court into a pickleball court or two. I don't know anything about pickleball myself. I've never played it, but apparently there's some real avid participants in the sport. So perhaps the staff can look into that. This gentleman suggested that Rio Lindo Park has a tennis court. I think it's one of four parks that have tennis courts in our city. And he thinks that that would be an appropriate one to convert into pickleball courts. So that's something hopefully that staff can look into and think about. Thank you. That's all I've got.

Thank you, Council Member Starr. And before I go to Council Member Rodriguez, I see our public works directors here. Perhaps you and Mr. Howlett can connect with Council Member Starr to provide with the resident where we already have pickleball courts, including the tennis center. And I see the number four is being held up. So that would be an immediate follow-up that you can do. Okay. Council Member Rodriguez.

Thank you very much. So I just wanted to remind folks that I will not have my office hours this week on Saturday. It's 4th of July. I will be spending time with my family. They will be glad. But anybody who wants to reach me, I'm happy to meet for coffee or just have a meeting sometime in July to catch up with Councilwoman. I also attended the Campus Park groundbreaking. That's very exciting I know it's only phase one so I look forward to still securing additional funding and putting the systems in place to make sure that we see the entire project to fruition because it's been decades in the making and I'm just grateful for folks being diligent and staying on top of that Tomorrow I have a meeting with Gold Coast Transit District It's the first Wednesday of the month, and I guess I'll have more to report then. And I wanna give a thank you and shout out to Brenda Lopez from Housing. There's been several tenants from Central Terrace reaching out to me about some of the supportive living programs and just safety in that space. So thank you, Brenda, for coordinating with the BEAT officer, the BEAT coordinator in that area, and safety and wellness of our community is very important. especially folks who many times feel silenced by their circumstances. So she's been outstanding with being responsive and working with the tenants there who have had concerns. So I'm grateful to her and the team, both in OPD and with housing. And I just wanted to shine some light on that, please. Thank you.

Thank you, Councilwoman. When you said people can request coffee, not on the 4th of July, though, it sounds like.

Oh, please, no. Okay.

All right. Thank you all very much. Just some quick updates here. I want to thank our public works team for hosting the Oxnard Youth Academy last week. They were able to tour three facilities and see firsthand what some of our public works employees do and how they make this sometimes unseen piece of the parts of the city run and run well. So thank you Mr. Wolf and my thanks to your team for hosting. I also attended the colonial neighborhood council slash community workshop last week and Thank You councillor star for your comments. I would Echo those as far as the logistics for the evening. I also don't believe there was any malintent in that But it's just something that it didn't work and we fell short on that and I appreciate that Mr. Pangeli's team has recognized that and is looking forward to having the next meeting be much more productive and something that will be productive for the community workshop. So thank you for that. And I also attended the campus park groundbreaking and I appreciate all of the work that went into putting that morning together from our again from our public works folks and our communications team, the city manager's office as well. And it was a momentous occasion and it was great to see so many members of the public there. And for anyone who wasn't able to be there, I did. ask people, raise your hand if you attended this school when it was a high school. And it was so great to see so many hands go up and see so many folks who have fond memories of walking through those hallways and generations of folks went through that school and now generations of folks will enjoy it as a park upon its completion. So thank you again to all of our team who worked to put those grants together and the community members who worked with them and the Friends of Campus Park and everyone's role in that. I also attended the Polluter's Pay Town Hall hosted by Seafrog. I thank them for choosing Oxnard as one of their venues in their statewide tour. And my last item here is just a reminder for everyone that this Friday, July 3rd, the mayor and the city is hosting a family night event. It will be Star, Stripes, and Sounds at Plaza Park. And you can come out, hear some music, get some food, be able to have some fun activities for youth. And it'll just be a great community event. So that'll be from 3 p.m. to 9 p.m. on that. Am I correct on that for our team? It's not 9.30, right? It's 3 to 9? If you come at 9.30 and nobody's there, then I was right. All right. The following morning, July 4th, we will have a speaking event at Plaza Park, similar to the Veterans Day and Memorial Day in the same location. We will have three speakers starting at 11 a.m. And we will have three generations of speakers of Oxnard residents, someone who recently graduated from high school, somebody who is in the middle of their career, and then somebody who is a retired veteran. They will be sharing about their experiences in growing up in Oxnard, their family coming here, or they coming here with their families, and the opportunities that were afforded to them by this community and by this nation. And so I hope that everyone will come out to hear those great stories. And folks who are from differing ages and generations, but I'm sure any of us can see ourselves or people we know in any of those stories. So that'll be July 4th, Placid Park at 11 a.m. And those are all of my comments. So next we're gonna move on to item J, review of the information consent agenda. Members of the legislative body will consider whether to remove information consent agenda items for discussion later during the meeting. Prior to us asking if we have any items to be pulled, Council Member Starr, you wanted to recuse?

I do want to recuse myself on L2. I am the, so the beneficial owner of my employer is also majority owner of another entity that owns property at the southeast corner of Rice and Sturgis, about almost 800 feet from the project site. This issue came up back in July of last year, and at that time the FBPC couldn't definitively advise whether participation would be permitted under the Political Reform Act. So while I imagine then and I imagine now that this decision would have no material effect on my employer, I have an abundance of caution. I am recusing myself from participating and or voting on this item to avoid any potential violation of conflict of interest laws.

Thank you. Thank you, Council Member and Madam Clerk. He will be recusing from L2. I will have to recuse from L3 and L6. L3 is because it is an agreement with the county of Ventura and because of the nature of my work and work I do with the county, just out of an abundance of caution as well and the potential for a remote interest, I'll recuse myself from that one. And from item L6 with the SRO services, I'll be recusing from that because there is a school district with which I do have a... professional relationship as well and potential other two as well. So I'll be recusing L3 and L6. That being said, do we have items that we wish to have pulled for discussion?

Yes. Oh, L3 and L6. Okay. Thank you.

So before we head into that, and just Madam Clerk, for the record, Council Member Starr has requested to pull L3 and L6 for discussion. Prior to that, we actually have a public comment. So let me read what we have here first. Item K, public comments on the info consent agenda. At this time, a person may address a legislative body only on matters appearing on the information consent agenda. Presiding officer shall limit public comments to three minutes. Anyone wishing to speak on the information consent agenda, please come forward to indicate so. You may fill out a speaker card. Or if you're joining us virtually, please press star 9 to raise your hand. So at this point, we have one speaker. Anyone else wishing to do so, you can do so as was outlined just now. Our speaker will be Greg Runyon.

Good evening, Mayor Pro Tem and Council. I got up to speak L6, so school resource officers. To me, that's a no-brainer. but I know that a lot of times we look at the worst outcomes, like why do we need school resource officers and that? So I just want to speak from my heart a little bit. When I was in school, I was a wild child and I was out of control. We did not have school resource officers. They had campus staff that would do their best to kind of regulate us. And the amount of time that they spent talking to me was just incredible. And the little bit I know about school resource officers, it is way more than just the what if of something drastic happening. It is the input and the impression that these officers make on young people. It is the... relationships that are built. And it is safety. It is nice to know that someone has your back. And years ago, when EO Green happened, the police department was so vital in the way they handled that. So I'm just saying all this because I hope we don't micromanage here. And we really look at how important our young people are, how important our teachers are, how important our community is, because these relationships that these officers build and the time they put in goes way beyond what you might imagine. So please consider that.

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Runyon. Madam Clerk, do we have any additional speakers for this item?

Excuse me mayor pro tem and council members. We do not have any additional speakers in person or virtually for the information and consent agenda Thank you.

Thank you. If there are no additional speakers, we have two items that were pulled it was l3 and l6 correct councilmember so with this mr. Fisher if you can give us some quick guidance just for the record on I'm sorry madam clerk. Go ahead

Oh, I'm sorry, Mayor Pro Tem. I was going to say, if we can have a motion for item L1, L4, and L5.

Yes, we'll do that in just a moment. Before we get to the pulled agenda items, Mr. Fisher, with me recusing from the two items that were pulled, would it be appropriate for Councillor Parillo, just given seniority, to handle discussions on that for the time being?

Correct. Since this is the consent agenda, you don't have to leave the room, but you still cannot participate.

Great, thank you. And council member, when I say seniority, I mean by time on the council.

Okay. Mayor Pro Tem and council members, just for the record, we closed the public portion of the information and consent agenda and somebody has raised their hand. So I just, if anybody's hearing us, we've closed this portion on the information and consent agenda. Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Clerk. Okay, we have the balance of the info consent items though. What is the pleasure of the council on this?

I will move the recommended action in approving the balance of the remaining items. I will second.

Okay, we have a motion by Councilwoman Rodriguez and a second by Councilwoman Basuwa with Councilmember Starr recusing on L2, correct?

Excuse me, Mayor Pro Tem and Council Members. I have it set up so that we can do a separate motion for L2, if that's okay. So right now, if we can take a vote, if you can go ahead and cast your vote, this would be for information and consent agenda L1, L4, and L5. Thank you. Thank you, and this carries 6-0. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Okay, Council Member Parillo, I will turn it over to you for items L3 and L6. Oh, you have your own? That's right.

Excuse me. I'm sorry, we do still need to take the vote for L2.

Thank you, Mr. Fisher. Okay, what's the pleasure of the council for L2? Can we get a motion?

I'll second that recommendation.

Okay, motion by Councilman Basuwa, second by Councilwoman Rodriguez. Madam Clerk?

Mayor Pro Tem and Councilmembers, if you can go ahead and cast your vote. Thank you, and this motion carries five With councilmember star recusing himself. Thank you.

Thank you madam clerk.

Okay councilmember Madam clerk for the last group. It's three number three and number six correct Councilmember parallel correct that it's item l3 and l6 Julie does the chair hear a recommendation from the rest of the body I

I believe they wanted to discuss three, and I did have a comment on three. I'm glad that I got pulled by a different council member, just because I'm really glad to see that we're still able to partner and help our senior community. If the person, I think Terrell is here, if he could just tell seniors how they might be able to access the warm meals, I really wanted to give a moment for the community at large to hear that amazing opportunity for folks that are over 60.

Thank you, Council Member Rodriguez. Good evening, Mayor Pro Tem, council members, Renee Rakestraw, assistant director, cultural and community services. So our phone number to reach our senior nutrition program, and I'll say it's slow to allow everyone to grab a pen, 805-385-8019. or stopping by one of our senior nutrition sites, which is Palm Vista, Wilson, and Colonia Senior Centers.

And I personally know several people have benefited from this personally. I really appreciate the balanced meals, the protein, and just the different veggies and everything. So thank you for the work you all are doing.

I do have a question. Let me just preface this by saying I think we should feed people who are hungry regardless of their background. I was reading on page 57 talking about what the eligible service population is for the meals that are concrete meals and those that are delivered. And it says eligible service population means individuals 60 years of age or older with emphasis on those in greatest economic and social need with particular attention to low-income minority older individuals. Older individuals with LEP, I think that's limited English proficiency, and older individuals residing in rural areas. So I looked up the law, which is the Older Americans Act, I think of 1965 as amended. And it actually dictates that we use that sort of language. So it's not really a fault of anybody here locally. It's just strange to me that the federal government is dictating that we, I guess, decide who gets a meal based on the color of their skin. So I was just wondering, how in the world do we navigate that today? How does this work in reality?

Excuse me, Mr. Starr, what exactly is your exact question for the individual, please?

My question is, if you're going to have to provide emphasis for who gets delivered the meals, how does that actually work? I can't imagine that we're... Taking a survey and say okay you fit this box Therefore you don't get a meal you fit this box you do I just how does this actually actually work because I think that when I first read this I was kind of alarmed And then I probably came to the realization that I don't think we actually implement it quite like the way this is described So I'm just wondering if you can just kind of clear it clear that up. I

Absolutely, Council Member Starr. So you did mention that funding is tied back to the Older Americans Act. And the funding starts at the federal level through community living and then comes in to California through the Department of Aging. and then funnels down into area agencies on aging. It so happens that ours is run by the County of Ventura. These parameters are set by the Older Americans Act and flow with the funding down. With the opportunity that we have here and thankfully with the support of council, we've been able to feed every individual that comes through our center that meets the 60 age plus requirement or there's some additional uh layers to that as far as caregiving or disability ties to it but we have been fortunate enough that the age limit is really our guide thank you i really appreciate that clarification any other questions from the council so if you if you had people who are over the age of 60 would you give priority for folks who maybe are homebound or like maybe not able to cook or like

If you came to the point where you had to differentiate, then what parameters would you be using?

So home delivered is a little bit different. Home delivered has a residence base to it. So with our home delivered meals, those meals are going from our freezers within our office space or our kitchen space into the homes of the seniors rather than them going to a congregate meal site. So they do have to reside within Oxnard limits for that. service. Okay, thank you.

Any other questions? One question. With respect to the home delivery, we are delivering with inside the city limits of Oxnard.

Absolutely. We do get every now and then we will get a participant outside of city limits and we have those relationships with other cities where we pick up the phone and help navigate that out.

Thank you. What is the pleasure of the council?

I move the recommended action. Madam Clerk.

Councilmember Parallo, just for the record, are we, is this a motion for L3 and L6 or is it? Okay. 30 seconds. My apologies. So council members, if you can go ahead and cast your vote for L3. Thank you. And this motion carries 5-0. Thank you.

Thank you. We're going to L6. L6 the recommendation of the City Council to approve and authorize the mayor to execute a cost-sharing agreement with the police school resource officer SRO service between number one three parts Number one the city of Oxnard and the Oxnard Union High School District agreement number eight eight six two one for a three-year period in the amount of six hundred and eighty five thousand three hundred and eight dollars per year and Number two, the City of Oxnard and the Oxnard School District agreement number A8627 for a three-year period in the amount of $261,771 per year. Number three, the City of Oxnard and the Wainimi Elementary School District agreement number A-8615 for a three-year period in the amount of $137,061 per year. This item did not originate in committee. There is an opportunity for public comment. I believe we've had the public comment for anything like this, unless there is more. Madam Clerk.

Council Member Parallo, the public comment for the information and consent agenda is closed. So no additional. Thank you.

Double checking. What is the discussion on the council?

Comments? Mr. Starr. Thank you. So first of all, let me start by saying I'm in favor of this. I did have some questions. I actually, in this particular case, gave them to staff in advance because I knew it would require a little bit of research. But first I wanted to ask, do we know how many incidents are police officers encounter at schools each year under this program? Thank you, Commander.

Good evening, Mayor Pro Tem, council members, Commander Miguel Serrato with the Oxnard Police Department. I did a little bit of research on this based on what we have is we have responded to schools 719 times during the last school year. That being said, the Oxnard High School districts, they all have a full-time officer that works at each high school. And then we have two for the Oxnard School District and one full-time for the Wainimi Elementary School District. A significant portion of the school resource officers work involves relationship building, mentoring, problem solving, threat assessment, and early intervention with students, staff, and families. Much of that work is preventative in nature and often results in issues being resolved before they escalate into police incidents.

Thank you. And I have another question. Let me just preface it by saying that I'm really cognizant of the fact that we have a limited number of police personnel and the department has a really tough balancing act when it comes to deploying resources needs are highest and i imagine today that opd makes decisions on where to deploy police resources based on where the needs are most critical for example neighbors with higher crime rates definitely as a council member i want very much want to protect children from crime i know there are tough decisions to make about how police resources are used i was wondering if you could tell the public would you be able to address how how one balances these needs as a department. How do you figure out where to deploy resources?

Yeah, we're always evaluating staffing and deployment strategies based on community needs, calls for service, crime trends, and operational priorities. But we do see a value working and partnering with the school districts.

And just out of curiosity, I assume that these police officers don't have to be on site, that they're simply just simply brought in when the need is required, that they're still available for other policing? Or how does that work? How do the SRO officers, are they stationed there, or how does it work?

Yeah, for the school resource officers, the eight officers, they're full-time at the schools. So we have five full-time at the high school, two full-time for the Oxnard School District, and one full-time for the Wainimi Elementary School District.

So if we had some sort of urgent situation where it was like all hands on deck, can they leave that station and go elsewhere to support our department in some activity, or is that, are these like Chinese walls?

They can respond to all the calls for service, but they work with school staff in order to see where they're needed, and that's where they go. an unfortunate incident, for example, at a high school, then obviously the police department itself will be responding to that high school in order to address the issue.

Thank you, Commander. I really appreciate the information. Thank you. Thank you, sir.

Council Member Perez.

Thank you for the recognition. I have a couple of questions. My first, actually two questions. My first question is are there any, I know there's the Oxnard Union High School District listed here, the Oxnard School District, Wainimi Elementary School District. Among all of these districts and looking at our schools, are there any schools within any of these districts where SROs are not present? Or are SROs present at all schools within each of these districts?

We'll example the Oxnard School District. There are 21 schools at the Oxnard School District. and we have two full-time officers that will be assigned to that district. So in any given time, we'll have those two officers working that day being at a school. They'll check in, talk to staff, and more than likely they'll move into the next school. The only schools that have a full-time officer there the entire time would be the high schools.

Okay, got it. So all high schools in OUHSD have...

Yes, they will have one full-time officer.

Okay. I'm curious, I know, and apologies for not asking this question early on, but I'm just curious in terms of the landscape of SROs and curious if you have any familiarity outside of the city of Oxnard, if other school districts, if there are other school districts that have SROs outside of the city of Oxnard in which school districts are they?

Yes, we actually do have, we actually ran stats on the entire state of California. A lot of Ventura has school resource officers, Camarillo has school resource officers, Simi Valley. So all our neighboring cities do have school resource officers.

Great. And I guess to be more specific, are there any SROs in the city of Thousand Oaks or the Conejo Valley area?

in the city of Thousand Oaks, yes.

All right, I think just to be kind of clear and transparent with the public, I think when we look at young people, I spent many years prior to being on the council working at various high schools through a nonprofit organization, specifically doing a lot of preventative work, I think what we've talked about here. And I'm mostly talking about Wainimi Elementary and really like the younger generation of, you know, eight to 12 and even as young as just that age range. And I think even prior to being on the council have had the opportunity to enter the juvenile justice center here in Oxnard and have witnessed and interacted in seeing young people. And I know a lot of young people are in in that facility for a variety of different reasons. And I've also, I appreciate the comment that was made referencing EO Green Junior High, because I also was a student there when that shooting took place. So I know a lot of that comes to mind for me in making a decision like this. But I think for me, I will be voting no tonight just because I think there are other opportunities. And I know that there are many communities out there right now looking at other especially when it comes to those that are 13 and younger and just making sure that there are other recreational things. And I know the city has done a great job with providing some of those resources and some of those afterschool programs. want to give credit to a lot of the staff that continues to do that mentorship, to just keep young people in opportunities that are going to allow them to explore leadership and career opportunities. And that's exactly the kind of model and approach that I have of values So it's not to say, especially as somebody who experienced gun violence and shootings within our community, I just think about the young five to 10 year olds and above who will have, I think that there's other alternatives in place and other models that work very well. And so tonight just wanted to be very transparent with the dais that I'll be voting no on this item.

Thank you, any other questions?

Council member, may I make a quick statement? I just wanna share for the public that these agreements, this is not a unilateral decision from the city of Oxnard. These are agreed upon agreements with each of the school districts. They're vetted between our staff and their administration and also ultimately also approved by the boards of the school districts, thank you.

Thank You city manager I need to The police department was involved in their head as my fellow councilmember mentioned She was at the school when a murder took place of a young individual But previous to that there was a armed kidnapping with threat to kill at a high school there was actions that had to be taken and Today in the newspaper, there's a story of a 14 and a 16-year-old who beat a 66-year-old individual in a wheelchair to death, convicted of manslaughter. The police department and the involvement of the police department in the local community is tremendous. to put certain groups above others via the age group or the presence of a police officer when needed. Hopefully they're never needed. But history, this is a big city with all sorts of problems that big cities have. And I am in total support of this. I respect Council Member Perez, her views, but I disagree. And I needed to state that. What is the recommendation of the council on this one?

I'd like to move the recommended action for L6.

I will second that motion. I just have a clarifying question. Just because you have lived experience, Council Member Perez, and I'll address it to the chair. Was there an SRO on campus when that shooting happened with Larry King or Earl King?

Maybe the chief can, I was very young at that age. There is no, okay.

I understand like there's a lot, I could see both sides of the fence, but I think that I appreciate the approach that our OPD is taking in terms of establishing relationships, positive relationships with students and just community policing and other preventative measures versus like a school to prison pipeline, which I think is what you're alluding to, or maybe I don't wanna put words in your mouth. So I thank you for that. I just hope that we can consider safety and like just, you know, trainings with folks in general, but I'm seconding that motion and in support of it right now.

Yeah, and just to quickly uplift, I too, safety is a big priority for me in my district. I think I can recall that, At that time, police were there in a quick manner and did the best that they could during that time. Thank you.

Just for the record, I also recall being at the site when I was asked by a friend to check on those two twin girls who were in one of those classrooms. Fortunately, they were not injured. It was a tremendous memory. Not good. Madam Clerk.

Council members, if you can go ahead and cast your vote. Thank you, and this motion carries 4 to 1. Thank you. Okay.

Thank you, Council Member Perillo, for leading that. So moving on to our next agenda item. This is the time and place set for a public hearing on item M1. Community Development Department. Subject, project name, fire station number three, reconstruction of an existing fire station located at 150-150 Hill Street. Recommendation that the city council, one, conduct a public hearing. Two, adopt a resolution certifying final initial study mitigated negative declaration, ISMND, number 25-03, 4. THE FIRE STATION NUMBER 3 PROJECT, GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF LAND USE AND CLIMATE INNOVATION STATE CLEARINGHOUSE NUMBER 202-510-1167. 3. ADOPT A RESOLUTION IMPROVING PLANNING AND ZONING PERMIT NUMBER 24-620-03 FOR A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT SUBJECT TO THE CERTAIN FINDINGS. APPROVE THE FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY AND WAVE FURTHER READING OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE TITLED AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVING PLANNING AND ZONING PERMIT NUMBER 24-507-02 ZONE CHANGE TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO STORY FIRE STATION AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED ON THE EXISTING 0.66 ACRE PROPERTY AT 150 HILL STREET APN 203-0-120-130 Five, approve the first reading by title only and waive further reading of the proposed ordinance titled an ordinance of the city council approving planning and zoning permit number 24-580-03 zone text amendment to approve the amendments to the Oxnard city code OCC chapter 16 section 16-264. Lot coverage to modify lot coverage, ALLOWED IN THE COMMUNITY RESERVE CR ZONE TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO-STORY FIRE STATION AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED ON THE EXISTING 0.66 ACRE PROPERTY AT 150 HILL STREET APN 203-0-120-130. THIS ITEM DID NOT ORIGINATE IN COMMITTEE. WE HAVE MR. PANGILLI OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. THERE WILL BE A QUIZ ON THE RECOMMENDATION EVERYBODY AFTERWARDS. We'll start with the city clerk certification and publication and written communications of any, Madam City Clerk.

Thank you. Mayor Pro Tem and council members, there was a legal notice for this public hearing published in Vila newspaper on July 4th, and the city clerk's office has received no written communications on this item. Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Clerk. Do any council members have any ex parte communications or other disclosures regarding this matter to state for the record? Councilor Prello?

I asked questions of the police chief. He directed them, but I don't believe that's a problem on my...

Okay. No one else? Neither do I. So there's no ex parte communication aside from the contact Councilmember Prello has just disclosed. Members of the public were invited to sign up to speak on this item on the city's website, and a person who did not sign up may do so now. By submitting a speaker card, they may submit a speaker card, or following the instructions posted on the agenda for this meeting and at the city's website, oxnard.gov slash city hyphen meetings. Joe Pearson II, planning manager, posted a video presentation regarding this item and is available to answer any brief clarifying questions council members may have before we take public testimony on this item. The council will deliberate after the public hearing has been closed. Do any council members have any questions at this time? Yes, Council Member Starr.

So during the teardown and construction of the new fire station, I read that we're establishing a temporary facility to maintain service levels in the interim. Do we have any sense as to how long we will be using a temporary facility? Yeah.

So, Council Member Starr, in regards to that question, that's probably better for the fire department and public works team to respond to. Okay. The applicant. or the consultant does have a presentation that will cover some of that. So either it may be better for their presentation to go or Michael Wolff is here. So you may be able to respond to that.

Even mayor pro tem council members, Michael Wolff, director of public works. So currently the capital improvement program project is looking at 18 months or 24 months per fire station. construction and so the the current plan right now as as proposed is that that facility would be used uh in series one for one of the fire stations whichever one goes first so let's say number two goes first that temporary facilities would be used and then they would move back into the new facility and then the other fire station number three would be Constructed and those staff members would be housed there temporarily for 18 to 24 months So it could be you know, 18 24 months times two.

Okay, and Do we have a ballpark estimate as to the cost of replacing? The fire station or is that just something that we don't know at this time? I?

So our current estimate for one fire station is about 30 to $35 million per fire station. And inside that cost are those kinds of soft costs or those kinds of logistical costs associated with temporary housing, construction management, permitting. So all those costs are currently folded into that current estimate. There are also some contingency, Because we're so far out from a I mean we've only got so far through the design phase That we typically include you know a 25% construction contingency on the numbers now because we don't have the details yet But those all those numbers are with all those costs are included in that and then estimate Okay, and I do have a question for Chief Hamilton I just wanted to kind of get a statement from you that you're you're comfortable with

with this approach and that the temporary facility will Is is meeting will need your needs and the community's needs? and if there's I Want you know if there's anything else that you actually need to make this work because I don't want it I don't want the service levels to suffer in any way Councilmember star.

Thank you for the question Alex Hamilton fire chief so we Tonight's agenda item has been about three years in the making. And so we've spent a lot of time on this. We did initially start looking at locations within each of those districts, sort of first in area, as we call it. Ultimately, the location that we've picked simplifies a lot of things without compromising response times. And so we actually, our architect who's here with us tonight and Assistant Chief Colin Marino visited that site today to review it for, and we think it's going to meet our needs while construction is going on.

Thank you very much.

Okay. Any additional questions? Councillor Parillo.

To address Mr. Starr, one of the questions that I did ask Mr. Starr was how much use does this fire station have? And the amount of calls last year, 3,718, that works out to 10.18 calls a day. It's a three-person station. And it's already been identified as one of the most heavily in the area heavily populated part of our city But one thing when you asked a question about how much it would cost more of the money that we would Use for this project or any other if your bond litigation had not been put on the city of Oxnard We would be getting much more bang for the dollar If we did not have to deal with your bond litigation Thank you

Councilmember do we have additional questions on this public hearing item?

I would like to comment on that So just for the record I have always been in favor of being able to put bond measures on the ballot in a general election I don't believe that we should ever put the public into debt without their permission That's been my standard from the beginning People like to say that oh, I'm preventing the city from going into debt. No, I I'm preventing the city from going to debt without a vote of the electorate. I think if we want to raise taxes, they should be able to vote on it. If we want to go into debt for 30 years and bond people.

Councilmember, I'm going to bring us back to the agenda item.

That's fine. Thank you. Sure thing.

Mayor Pro Tem, I'd like to address that. I'm serious. Councilmember Prello.

Mayor Pro Tem. We're on the fire station public hearing.

Mayor Pro Tem, I want to address that.

You want to respond to him? Is that what you're saying, Councilmember? I want to address that. No, I... Mr. Starmer, Mayor Pro Tem Teran. Councilmember, please. We have a public hearing. This is a time for questions about the Fire Station 3 construction. If there are concerns or thoughts about bonds and bond litigation, that's going to be for another time. Okay. So we're going to move on.

After we go to discussion. Thank you. Okay, got it. We'll be back.

Do we have additional questions, council members?

Okay.

Thank you very much. The applicant will give a presentation not to exceed 15 minutes. Once the applicant, oh, excuse me. So the applicant will give a presentation for 15 minutes. So applicant, please proceed with your presentation. And we have an introduction for that.

This is somewhat unusual, but because the city is the applicant, I'll be doing part of the presentation, and then Jeff Katz from the architectural firm will be doing the second half. Diego, if we can have the slides. Very briefly, we will keep this under 15 minutes, but I just wanted to acknowledge that this is a land use item before you for Fire Station 3. Ultimately, there's two fire stations moving forward in parallel. And just because over the last 2024, we did a lot of neighborhood councils for the for the areas that we're going to benefit from the reconstruction of these fire stations. And so I just wanted to touch on Fire Station 2 very briefly, but this presentation is primarily on Fire Station 3. So I just wanted to start out showing you the spread of our fires, the geographic spread of our fire stations. Both Stations 2, well, Station 3 is sort of in the centre of the city. Station 2 is in the south. Those different colours represent essentially the residents that those stations serve. It's sort of a loose boundary because we use the closest resource to determine who's going to go to the call. But very briefly, Fire Station 2 was built in 65 at a time when Oxnard had a population of around 40,000 people. That station now serves approximately 35,000 people to give you a little bit of context. So Station 2, and again, that's not the agenda item today before you, but Station 2, essentially, we're going to take it from... where it currently has one and a half apparatus bays. It'll expand to three apparatus bays. It'll be a two-story station that can go from housing, currently can house four personnel, and after reconstruction, it can accommodate 10 personnel. So it'll be a much larger station. All of these slides came from the neighborhood council presentations that we did throughout 2024, but you can see there, how our population has grown in the city. And because we're sort of hemmed in in terms of boundaries, we will likely only need one more fire station in the foreseeable future. Really what we need now is to build the capacity to be able to host more resources in our existing stations. And so that's part of the goal here is to be able to host more resources where we have existing stations. So Fire Station 3, this is the item that's before you tonight. Built in 1954, it's the oldest station that we have in Oxnard. I don't know this for a fact, but I'm almost certain it's also the smallest station in the county at around 3,200 square feet. Again, you can see here, similar to station two, we're going to take it from two apparatus bays to three. So again, we can have more response equipment functioning out of that station. And we'll also be able to host more personnel in that station. These are just some of the photos of the current condition of the station. You can see that we actually have exercise equipment beside where our engines are parked. That is not a best practice for the health and safety of our firefighters. Firefighters are more likely to be diagnosed with cancer and more likely to die from cancer. One of the reasons for that is the diesel engines that these engines that is a standard in the fire service. A couple of other issues that we have with the station being so old, you can see there that they've had seismic retrofitting done to try and make them safer. The front of the station is not big enough to pull the apparatus out in front to do testing and those kinds of things and it ends up blocking the sidewalk. So there's some of the things we're looking to address as a part of this process. See there where back in the Northridge quake there were issues around apparatus getting out of the stations to go to respond to calls. Other photos from inside the station you can see there, our personal protective equipment is not adequately protected. So one of the things that in this new design, the personal protective equipment actually would live in a separate room when it's not being used and when it's not being placed on the rig. And then other issues that we have in this station is all our personnel sleep behind a curtain. So they all sleep in a common space, which there is some level of camaraderie with being able to listen to the noises that your co-workers make in the middle of the night. But I would tell you that it's not adequate for a modern fire service. And so being able to get adequate sleep when they can is critically important. And then obviously being able to modernise some of the facilities that you can see there. And so these, again, are just images of the small cramped space. So where the captain will do reports after incidents, where folks study or answer emails, watch TV and eat dinner are all in that same one space, which again is very communal living. And I spent a lot of time working at this station earlier in my career and loved it, but it really isn't up to modern standards. So really the goal behind the reconstruction of Fire Station 3 is to ensure that we have a station that can meet the requirements and the needs of our community in terms of being being able to add additional response resources. Right now if we wanted to add resources we couldn't because we just don't have the space. The other thing too is this station will be designed in such a way that if in the future all electric fire engines the technology gets to a point where we'd like to take a look at doing that there'll be room for that infrastructure within the design of the station. Additionally, that station is so old, we've had to do electrical upgrades over the years, but we're increasingly seeing that fire departments have been having fires in their fire stations that are generally electrical in nature because the electrical draw on modern fire equipment is so extensive for older infrastructure. So that's one of the other things we're looking to address. In addition, obviously the modern earthquake standards, which we already talked about, and then perhaps most importantly at all to better protect the health and well-being of our workforce that we are working to diversify. So with that, I'd like to pass the microphone over to Jeff Katz, and he can just discuss the design a little bit further.

Thank you, Chief. Good evening, Mayor Pro Tem and Council Members. My name is Jeff Katz. I'm the President of Core Design Group. Pleasure to be here this evening speaking to you. We've been working Quite a while now with city staff and fire department on the design of these stations. So excited to be here tonight to present this to you. As Chief said, we're primarily here tonight to talk about Station 3. Just very quickly, with Station 2, we are progressing that design as well. You can see a much larger station taking up much more of the site to accommodate both staff parking as well as the station requirements. This is a three-bay drive-through station. Most of the design has been focused around operational improvements for the department in terms of responsiveness, as well as health and wellness for the firefighters who are living and working out of this station. So this is a two-story station, clear separation of living and work functions within the design. So moving on to Station 3, again, very small station currently sitting on a portion of the site that runs between the alley and Hill Street. Here you see the proposed design, much larger station, and as well as accommodating the parking here. We've done extensive studies to make sure that the fire apparatus can make the turn from the alley into the site to have that drive-through capability. Two of the bays will be drive-through with one of the bays being back in bay Again the station is designed as a two-story facility on the plan left side you see the turnouts the personal protective equipment that chief mentioned earlier and the area for decontamination of that equipment when they return from a call the right side plan right side is the living quarters the station and then on the second floor is We have all of the bunk rooms and restrooms to support staff with access directly down to the ground floor to allow them to respond promptly out to the apparatus bay. So the station incorporates a variety of materials from cast in place concrete for the apparatus bay, stucco, and then some accent tile elements on the station as well. And this is a representation of some of the colors and materials that are being used in the station. So with that, here to answer any additional questions you may have about the design of the project.

Thank you very much. Before we move on to public comment, are there any additional questions of the presenters?

Okay.

With that then, we'll go ahead and open the public testimony portion of the public hearing. SPEAKERS HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. AND AS OF NOW, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER. ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEM M1, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND YOU MAY FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD OR IF YOU ARE JOINING US VIRTUALLY, PLEASE PRESS STAR 9 TO RAISE YOUR HAND. AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, MR. LARRY STEIN.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR POTEM, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MY NAME IS LARRY STEIN. I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSAL, ESPECIALLY WHEN CONSIDERING ALLOCATION OF ROOM FOR FUTURE GROWTH FOR ALS AND BLS SERVICES. I'M HAPPY THAT THE STAFF TALKED ABOUT FIRE STATION 2 TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. AGAIN, I'M GOING TO HAVE ALS AND BLS SERVICES IN THAT POTENTIAL AREA. THIS PROJECT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU BY OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, NOT BY FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECEIVED FEES FOR FIRE STATION NINE. THOSE FEES WERE SERVED OR PAID FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF EAST VILLAGE AND WEST VILLAGE. THE CITY RECEIVED MONEY CHARGED BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR FIRE STATION NINE. WE HEARD EARLIER IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEED FOR ANOTHER FIRE There's been no discussion on the construction of Fire Station 9, even though it's part of the five-year, the 10-year strategic plan introduced in 2005. When this, when Fire Station 9 was presented before city council, the fire department said, well, we have adequate safety for our houses. And that's correct. Our houses become more safe, but we still have people living in those houses and we need to have ALS and BLS services. THIS EAST VILLAGE ARE NOT RECEIVING THE SAME LEVEL OF ABL SERVICES THE REST OF THE STATE RECEIVES. SO AS WE CONSIDER THIS ITEM AND GOING TO APPROVE FIRE STATION THREE, I'D LIKE YOU TO BRING BACK AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM AS A STATUS. and funding for Fire Station 9 because the people in East Village and West Village have not been adequately served. Supposedly, we have one more fire station, one more personnel person for fire station that addresses the area, but not new fire station. Fire Station 12, I'm sorry, Fire Station 8 costs initially $12 million to the lease program, eventually costing us $24 million. These fire stations are going to cost a whole lot more. So again, I'd like to, as we approve this project, I'd like to hear some sort of discussion this fall as to the construction of Fire Station 9. Thank you very much for your time.

Thank you, Mr. Stein. Madam Clerk, do we have any additional speakers for this item?

Mayor Pro Tem and Council Members, we do not have any additional speakers, but if anybody is here in the audience or anybody joining us virtually, if you would like to speak on this item, please press star nine to raise your hand. If you're in the audience, please come forward. Mayor Pro Tem and council members there are no additional requests to speak in person or virtually for this item. Thank you.

Thank you very much If there are no additional speakers, then we will close the public hearing The public hearing is now closed Does any council member wish to comment? Councillor Perillo

Mr.. Stein well knows and he and I have had this discussion quite often East and West village a fire chief at that time made a determination Because the homes would be constructed with indoor sprinklers That there was no need for the fire station that came from the fire chief at the time What was never addressed and is in the record still of the Planning Commission's of that meeting is? was the fact if the emergency response times were not adequate for individual having a heart attack in those neighborhoods, what would be the issue with respect to the city? And Mr. Stein, you and I have gone around about this back and forth. The proposal for Fire Station 9 and some other area, that has come up. And I appreciate you bringing that up. I also appreciate you bringing up the fact of how the money went from Fire Station 8 Increased and the expectation that this will also increase which gets back to my issue about Whether an individual has a belief that a bond should always go to a vote of the people The individual has that belief and he can follow through with that belief My point in an earlier part of this discussion was that individual pushed the issue to the courts and he lost but he cost and injured the residents of this city a tremendous amount because of the loss of money, because of the interest rates we could have taken. The individual fellow councilman does not want to see that. I do not want to let him avoid that. But Mr. Stein, thank you for your questions. I support this item.

Thank you, council member. We have any additional comments from council members? Council member Starr.

I also support this item. I will restate my position. It's immoral to put people into debt without their consent. That's the position I come in. Yes, I challenge this in court. I lost last year. But during that entire period of time, the council always had the option of going to the voters and seeking a general obligation bond, which would have been a lower interest rate than what we have to do with the lease revenue bonds. So in my mind, the city decided that they don't want to go to the voters. And if they're suffering because of their delays, well, that's on them. But my position remains the same, which is that it's immoral to put people into debt without their consent. So I will always be in favor of something being voted on in this case, rather than the council deciding that we're going to put people into debt.

Mayor Pro Tem, I'm sorry, as the city manager, I have to make a statement. We've been dancing around this and ducking and dodging this issue, but let me just make something very clear here. Because as your city manager, it's been very frustrating and frankly offensive during this whole chapter. We all understand, Mr. Starr, your belief in your ideology. You state it ad nauseum, and we hear it, we get it. But here's the irony and the hypocrisy of it all. And this was proven out when you lost a court. The existing rules allow for the elected representatives, the city council as a body, to make those decisions on behalf of their voters, of their residents. I've stated it before. During that period, we were the only city in this country that could not access the strategic use of municipal bonds. Every city, county, and state uses those tools. Again, we understand your belief, but what you actually did as an individual by suing the city is you actually nullified the vote of the people who put the city council members up here to make these important decisions on their behalf.

Mr. City Manager, I'm going to have you bring this back to Station 3. Thank you.

Well, it's very important to make it clear because Station 3 is also a potential victim of this. So I just want to make it clear for the record as the city manager here what actually happened. Now, the fight's over. We'll see what the economy does and what the markets do, but I think it's important to state that as your city manager for the record.

Thank you. Is there any additional council members who have not spoken yet? Okay, if there is no further discussion, what is the pleasure of the council on this public hearing item?

Move the recommended action. I move second.

We have a motion by Council Member Parillo and a second by Council Member Basuwa. Madam Clerk, may we have the vote?

Mayor Pro Tem and Council Members, if you can go ahead and cast your vote. I thank you and this motion carries six to zero, thank you.

Thank you, Madam Clerk. All right, so we are moving on to agenda item N1, And for this item, as we did during info consent, I will have to recuse myself from this item. And I will turn it over to Councillor Parillo. Councillor Parillo, here you go. We start right here. And I will, let me state for the record, because of the professional relationship I have with local school districts, just out of a bit of caution, the potential for remote interest, I'll be recusing myself from the discussion and the vote on this item. And I will be leaving the room.

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. This item is N1, a public works department subject, second amendment to the joint school slash park use agreement A-6571 for the maintenance operation and use of the school and park facilities in the river park specific plan area. The recommendation that the city council authorize the mayor to execute the second amendment to the joint joint use agreement with the Rio School District for the maintenance operation and use of the school facilities in River Park. This item did not originate in committee because it is a continuation of an item previously approved by the City Council on November 9th, 2011. City Clerk, do we have any public speakers on this item?

Council member Peralta and council members yes, we do have a virtual speaker virtual speaker if you can press star Okay, and if we do one moment council members.

Do you have any questions before we take the public speaker? Okay, please take the public speaker.

Thank you, cuz Thank you virtual speaker if you can press star 6 10 mute and you have three minutes starting now I

Hello? Members of the city council. Yes, sir. Go ahead.

Please proceed. Hello? Yes, please proceed.

Members of the city council, good evening. My name is Paul Schnabelin. I'm a resident of Riverport. I'm also the chair of the Riverport Neighborhood Council. Congressman Perillo, I'd like to thank you for providing me information about the proposed amendment that's being considered tonight. I had a chance to look over the item of honor. I believe it's going to be of mutual benefit to both the rio school district and to the residents and homeowners are aiming for the cfd empire area i strongly encourage members of the council to support the the item if you have thank you for your time

Councilmember Peralta and council members that concludes our speakers in person and virtually for this item.

Thank you Just one last call are there any members in the audience or on the internet didn't want to speak Please call in let us know in the next few moments Seeing none Okay, move on. What is the question? Questions or actions by the council? What do we have for the rest of the council members?

So, council member, if it's appropriate this time, I'd like to move the recommended action.

I beg your pardon, I missed what you said, sir.

If it's appropriate at this time, I'd like to move the recommended action.

Okay. Mr. Starr is making a motion. Do we have a second? Second. We have a second by Council Member Visua.

Council Members, if you can go ahead and cast your vote. Thank you, and this motion carries five to zero. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Mayor Tim will be back in a moment.

Thank you again, council member. Much appreciated.

Okay.

Next item on the agenda is item N2, finance department. Subject ratification of emergency amendment to agreement with Macias, Ginny, and O'Connell for additional audit procedures related to the fiscal year ended June 30th, 2025. Recommendation that the city council ratify the execution of an emergency amendment to the Professional Services Agreement with Macias, Ginny, and O'Connell, MGO, in the amount not to exceed $40,000 for an overall amount not to exceed $1,259,759.75 for additional audit procedures necessary to complete the independent audit of the City's Annual Comprehensive Financial Report, ACFR, and Single Audit Report FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED JUNE 30, 2025. THIS ITEM DID NOT ORIGINATE IN COMMITTEE. OUR CONTACT IS THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. AND DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE WE GO TO OUR SPEAKER?

YES, I UNDERSTAND AND HAVING READ THE STAFF REPORT, GREATLY APPRECIATE THE STAFF REPORT. CAN YOU BRING THE RESIDENTS THAT DIDN'T TAKE THE TIME OR INTEREST TO READ THE STAFF REPORT? HOW DID WE GET TO HERE TONIGHT?

GOOD EVENING. CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER WITH THE CITY OF OXNARD. The auditors follow all the regular process and procedures to do the audit for fiscal year 24, 25. They review all the information that they requested, and they form their opinion. They present their opinion at the Finance and Governance Committee. And the the day they were gonna present the same information to the City Council they have The city treasurer requests a meeting with them They met with the city treasurer the city treasurer made certain comments and assertions that basically gave the the external editors a pause and they think they are They needed to do additional process and procedures to basically to present the opinion to city council. As part of those process and procedures, they need to do additional research to confirm or validate if the assertions that the city treasurer made to them are accurate or not. And based on that analysis, they come back to city council to present their opinion.

And my understanding is also from the report and from seeing the communications between the auditors and the council staff, the urgency of this matter and the fact that it was going to be approved at a city council meeting at the last minute, our elected city treasurer, Mr. Philip Molina made some claims, which to this date, I don't believe he shared what his concerns are with the auditor. That is why we're here tonight and had to take the, not normal situation of approving a potential contract without going through a bid process because of the urgency of this particular item. Am I pretty much on the ball on that?

There's a couple reasons for the urgency for this review. We want to start working with the auditors as soon as possible because not having the audited financial statements and the single audit report has multiple repercussions. on one side there's a risk of losing the credit ratings that the city has improved in the last few years for not having the financial statement but a bigger risk in the short term is the possibility of losing some of the grants that the city relied on to support both capital projects but also essential services to the residents like the one we were discussing a few minutes earlier in this meeting for the senior nutrition program. So it's critical that we resolve the situation as soon as possible and I'm going to repeat that. It's critical that we resolve the situation as soon as possible because there's a lot of resources at play for the residents of the city for not having this financial statement at play. And I'm going to say it one more time. It's critical that we resolve this situation as soon as possible.

Thank you very much for sharing that information. Thank you.

Thank you, Council Member. Any additional questions? Okay. We... Oh, Councilwoman Basu. Go ahead.

I'm sorry. Do we know what the allegations from the city treasurer were?

They haven't shared exactly what he said to them for what some emails that we have seen from the city treasurer that was shared by the auditors and they are part of the report. In those emails, he claimed that he was just referring to the litigation the city treasurer had with the city. But that's what he has said, put in those emails. What was actually verbally communicated to the auditors, we are not exactly proof of what that was.

So, Javier, are we sure that this is the only amount of money needed in order to move forward with this audit? I mean, because we talk about wasting taxpayer dollars. We're adding additional money now, and we're late. on a very important financial document that is very essential for city government. So are you sure that this is the only money that you need or do we as a city council need to make sure that we up this amount because I want to see this go through and I don't want to continue to have this linger because you have to come back.

So we are relying on the estimates from the auditors. So we are basically just following their lead. They are the ones that know exactly what the city treasurer told them. They are the ones that are putting together their scope of work. And if this is the amount that they have requested to complete that scope of work, we will definitely will have them accountable to this amount to complete this and that scope of work.

So I do have a question for our city attorney. If the audit report does not change and there comes back that there is no additional findings, can we go after the $40,000 that we are wasting in taxpayers' dollars due to an allegation that has no teeth?

We would have to research whether we would have a cause of action against the treasurer for causing such a need to chase down baseless allegations in your scenario. So I can't answer that fully at this time.

Thank you. I would also like to direct staff, if it's okay with my fellow council members, that if the city is being affected, And we are losing time because we can't move forward because we don't have our audited financials. I want to make sure we document and we figure out what that financial impact is to the city.

Thank you. Councilwoman Rodriguez.

I was just, when being asked about being able to approve additional funding, we would not be able to do so because of the Brown Act. That's what's been promoted to the public. So because it's an estimate, should there be an additional need for financial support, then we would have to come back to council, right? We can't just say instead of 40K, let's give 80K.

We could give a contingency amount so we can make an amendment.

The public is on notice that you are considering paying the auditors an additional sum of money to deal with the issue the treasurer has created.

So we're not limited to the $40,000 that has been publicly listed?

Within reason, and if you are proposing a contingency to be put on there, then yes. If it gets, you know, this is not an ability to change other terms of the audit contract. This is a scope of work that's been laid out as reflected in the materials. But your basic subject and recommendation addresses having the auditors conduct additional work for an increased cost.

Okay, because I'm pretty certain it's up to $40,000, but I could be wrong.

Correct.

Okay, and it was, as Mr. Chagoy and Lazaro had mentioned, this was the estimate and scope that came from the auditor themselves, and it sounds like there's a concern that what if it's more? Is that correct, Councilwoman?

Yeah, there is a concern on my end that what if there's more funds that are needed, and then they're going to have to come back again to appropriate. which is going to now take time, what, at least a month to come back to us?

I appreciate the sentiment. I believe we should know sooner than later if that would be required. And I think there's time in July. We have three meetings in July. If we need to come back one more time for contingency to hold this over through August, if necessary. So I think tonight we're comfortable with this amount. And if need be, we'll come back in July.

So to address that concern, however, this is a ratification of work that's already been approved. So the auditors have not been waiting until your decision tonight to proceed with dealing with this issue. This is a process that's addressed in your purchasing ordinance, and if need be, the scope changed based on what they're working on now, then a similar emergency, urgency approval could occur, and then it would come back, as the city manager said, at a future meeting.

Okay. I just don't want to hold up city staff for money purposes, not because of the scope of work, but specifically because we're adding to the contract amount.

Okay.

Thank you, Councilwoman. And Councilmember Starr, and then I think you had something in addition.

Were there any public speakers for this item?

We're getting to that point, Mr. Starr. We're doing questions right now. Thank you. And did you have something, Councilmember Perez, before we go back to Councilmember Prello? Okay. Go ahead, Councilmember.

Just a question for Council Member Rodriguez. Did you want to increase the limit?

I mean, I just want to make sure, like, we can't pick and choose when we follow Brown Act. So if it's been posted.

So you're getting into a deliberation type of discussion and we're dealing with immediate questions to staff before we can take the public comment. Then you can move on to.

I appreciate that it's an estimate, but I still believe that that would be the limit based on what's been posted.

additional questions council member yes do we know has mr. Molina been denied the opportunity to meet with the auditors to tell him what his concerns were no that's my understanding multiple opportunities and he hasn't thank you thank you okay if there are no further questions from council

We will receive public comments. Speakers will have three minutes to speak. Anyone wishing to speak on report N2, please come forward and you may fill out a speaker card or if you're joining us virtually, please press star nine to raise your hand. And anyone who would like to make a comment, please do so. And in the meantime, Mr. Stein, you are our speaker on this item. And again, if anyone else would like to speak, now is the time to come forward and state so to the clerk or press star nine if you're joining us virtually.

Mayor Pro Tem, can I just get some clarification from Council Member Perrella? My lack of hearing might have struck again. So could you just repeat what you had said that I had answered no to?

I've just been wondering, with all this time that the city treasurer, Mr. Philip Molina, made claims, has he been denied the opportunity to share those claims? My understanding is that has not happened. Are you saying has he been denied that opportunity? No, no, I'm asking. Do we know? Has he ever been denied the opportunity to share that information?

No, my answer remains no.

My understanding, he's been given multiple.

He has not been denied, and he has met with the auditor. Thank you.

That was my follow-up question.

I apologize for the confusion.

Thank you very much, Mr. Sonstegard.

Thank you, Mr. Sonstegard. Okay, Mr. Stein, you have three minutes.

Good evening, Mr. Pro Tem, Mary Sink Council, staff, audience, and members of the public. My name's Larry Stein. I've been following fiscal issues within the city as a private citizen for over 30 years. I'm somewhat concerned about the fact whether staff disclosed all the information necessary to the auditors to perform an audit because this is a new auditing. For example, over two months ago, I submitted a bulk of record requests to see two schedules. One of the schedules I asked for was to see the listing of properties available for resale. The second listing of schedules I asked for was to see a listing of unfunded liabilities. I made these requests approximately two months ago. Apart from being going to the hospital for a matter of two weeks, those documents had not been provided, had not been provided. So I'm wondering what other documents that the city has failed to provide the auditors. In the past, I made public record requests to see balance sheets and detailed trial balances. In the past, under our current city manager, those documents were not provided. I've made multiple requests at a period about three or four years ago to see balance sheets and detailed trial balances. Only last year, after spending two months of communication with the city attorney's office, I started seeing detailed trial balances. Again, I'm somewhat concerned as to what information Our city staff is withheld from the auditors because the city staff has withheld public documents from me as a private citizen. What public documents are they withholding from our auditors? Thank you very much for your time.

Mayor Pro Tem, I just would ask the public if they're curious about Mr. Stein's remarks that they watch that actual Finance and Governance Committee meeting where the auditors address those issues. Thank you.

Thank you. Madam Clerk, do we have any additional speakers at this time?

Mayor Pro Tem and Council Members, we do not have any additional speakers in person or virtually for this item.

Thank you. Thank you very much. Mayor Pro Tem. Just give me one second, Council Member. Okay. So if there are no additional speakers, do we have Council Member comments? Council Member Starr.

I just want to move the recommended action. Okay.

I will second.

We have a motion by Council Member Starr and a second by Councilwoman Rodriguez. Madam Clerk, may we have the vote, please?

Mayor Pro Tem and Council Members, if you can go ahead and cast your vote. Thank you. And this motion carries six to zero. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Our next item on the agenda is item N3, City Attorney Department Subject, City Council Remote Access Disruption Policy. Recommendation that the City Council adopt a resolution titled A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF OXNARD ADOPTING A POLICY REGARDING DISRUPTIONS OF REMOTE ACCESS DURING CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. THIS ITEM DID NOT ORIGINATE IN COMMITTEE. OUR CONTACT IS MR. STEVEN FISHER, OUR CITY ATTORNEY. AND I SEE WE HAVE MR. ZARAGOZA JOINING US AS WELL. DO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS, EXCUSE ME, QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT? MR. ZARAGOZA, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. And these may be technical questions in nature as it pertains to the legislation that is driving this policy for tonight. Can you, number one, just introduce a little bit about the policy itself, and then I have some follow-up questions to that that are a little bit more technical.

Okay. Good evening, Mayor Pro Tem, members of the Council, Assistant City Attorney Jason Zaragoza. So SB 707 requires, one, eligible legislative bodies, which are defined as legislative bodies in cities, in our case, where the population exceeds 30,000. to one, allow for two-way communication for our meetings, not in person, i.e. Zoom. For us, we've been doing that since COVID. And then two, in the event of disruption of that system, to take a brief recess and then attempt to restore the system. And if that can't be done within an hour, to come back out and make the requisite findings that, hey, we tried to restore the system. It didn't happen. And then make a statement for the record about what those efforts are. and then to continue on with the meeting. If the service disruption is dealt with within the hour, then you can come out and proceed with the meeting. That's just a brief overview. You all had a real world example of that at the last council meeting where you kind of just instinctively did it, stopped, paused, fixed the issue and came back out. 707 requires a specific process to be followed and certain findings to be made and certain things to be put into the record by the clerk when that occurs, the time that the recess occurred, when you all came back down and reconvened, as well as the efforts taken to deal with that disruption.

Okay, thank you very much. As a follow-up question, As it pertains to when there's a disruption, last council meeting, as you mentioned, is one example where there was the inability for the people joining on Zoom to be heard by this council and by the public. And so that was a technical issue that had to be addressed. And we took a brief recess. It was fixed. And we came back and resumed the meeting. We have multiple ways for people to view the meeting from home. They can view it on their Frontier or Spectrum channels, or they can view it on YouTube, or they can join on Zoom and watch it and raise their hand using that function. So it sounds to me like this is specifically the two-way two-way to participate, correct? That's correct, yeah. So let's say, for example, YouTube gets disrupted and the stream stops. Is that something that would qualify under the legislation that we would need to pause the meeting in order to fix the YouTube stream?

Not necessarily so just a disruption is any failure outage or interruption in the city's telephonic or internet service that prevents the public from attending or observing an open City Council meeting via remote access right so that only pertains to the zoom so in the event that there was a disruption to the zoom but people could still watch on YouTube or through other means the legislation is only concerned with that platform. So if people are still watching from home, then you can continue. If there's a YouTube disruption where people couldn't watch from home but could still participate via Zoom, certainly as a matter of policy, you could still pause and try to deal with the issue. But the legislation only pertains to a disruption as to that. that Zoom platform.

Okay. And I would imagine the similar line of thought would apply to Spectrum and Frontier, correct? If those live streams via cable TV went down on the part of the cable provider, not necessarily our production office, that we wouldn't need to necessarily pause the meeting for that. We could, but that wouldn't be what's laid out in the legislation, correct? Yeah, that's correct.

The legislation is really concerned with once you've opened up the platform, which we're required to do as of July 1, for that type of participation in the meeting, that a member of the public has reasonably relied on that assurance that it'll be available, whereas somebody sitting at home... Doom meets that, satisfies that requirement as well, because there is a phone number attached to it, not just joining...

over the Internet, correct? Yeah, that's correct. Okay, thank you. Those are my questions. Were there additional questions, Councilwoman? Council Member Stark.

Yeah, I imagine that all the cities are having to deal with this right now, at least the ones that have over 30,000 people. I was wondering if they're offering a different proposal than what you're offering, or is this model language? How did you come up with this particular language and why do you think it's best?

Yeah, so there is an ILG, Institute of Local Governments policy that was put out as kind of a standard or a model that other agencies have also adopted or in the process of adopting hopefully by now because July 1st is right around the corner. So yeah, this is sort of a standard process that includes the four steps that are required by the statute immediately announcing the disruption, using the reasonable efforts to resume the system, making the requisite findings, et cetera. Thank you. Yeah. Any other questions, council members?

Okay. Madam Clerk, do we have any speakers for this item?

Excuse me, Mayor Pro Tem and council members, we do not have any requests to speak in person or virtually for this item. Thank you.

Okay. We have a comment from Councilwoman Rodriguez.

I'm sorry. I do have a technical question. So should we continue and not have the ability to do the two-way? We would still be recording and that recording would still be available on YouTube later?

That is correct. That's probably a Diego question. But yeah, generally speaking, yeah, I would say that my understanding is that even if the system goes down, but the YouTube is still going, then that recording is still made available. If the YouTube goes down, I'm not sure what sort of backup we have in the feed that the meeting will still be recorded. I know.

I'm probably asking a question that goes above and beyond what the legislation is asking, but I just think that should somebody still be interested in knowing what happened and they're not in the room, maybe they could have access. Yeah.

And if I may, Councilwoman, we have had instances in the past where the YouTube stream goes down or one of the TV channels goes down. But internally, this council chambers still continues recording, and that can be posted in full to YouTube later and then run as a rerun. I don't know if people still use that term, but a rerun on the channel 10 or channel 1 or whatever it is. I don't know. I don't have cable, so I don't know which channel. But, yes, I believe that answered that. And Diego could probably give us more on that in the future if we need it.

Thank you.

Did you have something, Mr. City Manager?

No, I was going to talk about a power outage, but that's another story. Thank you. Okay.

Well, I think in the past we spoke about generators. I know the Public Works Director has left, but we have those as well. Councillor Parillo.

Yes, Mr. Zaragoza, do we have an individual that's monitoring this is working the entire time that there's a council meeting going on? If not, is there some kind of red light that flashes to let people know? How do we know that the system stopped working?

So we have the production office in the back that is monitoring whether or not the system works. I'm generally, if I'm not here in person, watching from home and trying to pay attention as much as possible. The clerk is monitoring the calls as they come in. So yeah, we have various ways of ensuring that the system is still...

Okay, monitoring, watching it from home is not the same as what the legislation specifically is about Zoom. How do we know specifically the Zoom went down?

So that would be more of a production issue where they're monitoring it back?

In other words, someone from the back will know, and that's what they're basically part of their job is to monitor.

That's correct.

You've answered my question. Thank you.

Thank you very much. And I'll just say, Councilmember... The live zoom feed we have right here is exactly what production sees as well And if there's an error or it goes down, we'll see it as well in this room.

And so we have some good production folks Yes, Jim when you're looking at that, how do you tell the zoom feed went down?

It would disappear and we would see the desktop of the computer that's running it. Okay. Thank you Okay, what's the pleasure of the council on this item if it's an order at this time?

I'd like to move the recommended action Okay

We have a motion by Council Member Starr and a second by Councilwoman Perez. Madam Clerk.

Mayor Pro Tem and Council Members, if you can go ahead and cast your vote, please. Thank you. And this motion carries six to zero. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Madam Clerk. If there's no further, excuse me, not calling for the vote. We just did that. There being no further business on the agenda and without objection, we are adjourned.