City Council - Regular Meeting

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Good afternoon and welcome to the Osceola Board of County Commissioners meeting for July 20th, 26th. If everyone will please stand at this time for a moment of silence followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by Commissioner Booth.

Commissioner Booth.

Please join me in honoring our flag and country.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you so much. Please be seated. Well, that now brings us to our approval of the agenda. County Attorney, are there any changes?

No changes.

Thank you so much. County Manager, are there any changes?

Yes, Mr. Chairman and Commissioners, on item 20, which is adoption of ordinance 2026-46 for CPA 26-0001, we'd like to remove Everest Place Boulevard. Map change from this item, and we'll bring it back to you at a later date.

Folks, we'll make sure we try and speak into the microphone. She was saying that we're removing Everest Boulevard.

Yes, Everest Place Boulevard is being removed from item 20, which was an amendment to the transportation map. So we're removing that particular road item from that requested change, and we'll bring it back to the board at a later date.

Okay, perfect. I know a lot of folks signed up for item 20. And that may be the specific thing you wanted to talk about. Don't please folks, if I can make sure y'all don't speak out, we'll get a chance to for public hearing. You can come up and speak then. Okay. No, that item 20 is still on there. They their issue, whether it's with that item or with the rest of it, we want to make sure we hear it then. Okay, we're not bringing it back to the board now for a motion. We have a motion. Second. Second. All those in favor say by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes unanimously. Before that now brings us to our recognitions, proclamations, and presentations. Our first proclamation today is an adoption of proclamation declaring July 19th, 2026 through July 25th, 2026 as National Pretrial Probation and Parole Supervision Week here in Osceola County presented by Commissioner Jaynor.

Okay, I'm gonna ask Chief Neely and anybody else that he'd care to come up while we go ahead and read this proclamation. Give him a second. Okay. Welcome, welcome. It says, whereas the residents of Osceola County are served by dedicated community corrections professionals whose work strengthens public safety, promotes accountability, and supports successful community reintegration, and whereas these professionals provide critical services through pretrial release supervision, probation supervision, case management, compliance monitoring, and coordination with courts, law enforcement agencies, treatment providers, and community court organizations, and whereas these professionals work to reduce recidivism, improve court appearance rates, encourage compliance with court-ordered conditions, and help individuals make positive changes that benefit their families and communities, and whereas these professionals carry out their responsibilities with integrity, professionalism, compassion, and dedication, while balancing accountability, victim safety, and public protection, and Whereas, Pretrial Probation and Parole Supervision Week provides an opportunity to recognize the valuable contributions of community corrections professionals and to express appreciation for their service to the citizens of Osceola County and whereas the Osceola County Corrections Department's mission includes engaging in progressive correctional practices that promote accountability and public confidence, while its pretrial and probation programs support successful outcomes for individuals under court supervision. Now, therefore, be it proclaimed that the Osceola Board of County Commissioners does hereby proclaim the week of July 19th to the 25th, 2026 to be known as National Pretrial Probation and Provo Supervision Week. So moved.

We have a motion. Is there a second? All those in favor, state with saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes unanimously. Congratulations.

Congratulations.

Yes. Thank you, Commissioner Jaynor. Listen, I'm going to invite Supervisor Catherine Smith to say a few words about her team. But just quickly, I'll say this. Our community correctional officers provide a valuable service to this county. They're responsible for keeping offenders in the community safely. But more importantly, the fact that they're not in jail is a huge cost saving to this community. So I applaud them tremendously. And I would invite all of you to not just thank them this day, but every day. So Ms. Smith.

Thank you, Chief Nehle, Commissioner Jaynor, and the Osceola Board of County Commissioners. This week, we are celebrating 26 community corrections professionals that work hard to keep our community safe through thorough background research and risk assessment, enforcement, and monitoring and rehabilitative oversight. I am proud to have some of those professionals and our leadership here with me today to accept this proclamation. Osceola Community Corrections is comprised of pretrial release and county probation. Between both areas, our officers oversee approximately 900 individuals within the community. Not only do they ensure compliance with the court's order, but they also assist them with job placement by connecting them with second chance employers and career source at Valencia College. Last week, many of our professionals attended the Florida Association of Community Corrections Training Institute. The theme of the institute was Back to Basics, Probation 101. Here is where we were reminded of the birthplace of probation in 1841 by John Augustus, the father of probation. He was a bootmaker and a penal reformer that convinced a judge to release an offender known as a drunkard into the custody of him instead of having to go to jail. Through Augustus's methods of helping this individual overcome his struggles, the offender later returned to court sober and rehabilitated, thus laying the groundwork for the probation system. Defendant's eligibility for PTR stems from Augustus's original philosophy. Reforming and monitoring certain offenders in the community is a safer and far more effective approach than incarceration. Just like John Augustus nearly two centuries ago, our team remains dedicated to the belief that accountability and rehabilitation can truly transform lives. Thank you again for recognizing our community corrections professionals today and for your shared commitment to a safer Osceola County.

Thank you so much for what you do for the county. The next up is an adoption of a proclamation declaring July 25 through 2026 as World Drowning Prevention Day in Osceola County, presented by Commissioner Booth.

Thank you, Chairman. Here we go. You ready? All right. Whereas drowning is a leading cause of accidental death worldwide and remains one of the most preventable public health and safety challenges affecting children and adults alike. And whereas the World Health Organization says that more than 300,000 people lose their lives by drowning each year. That's a crazy number. That's worldwide. 531 in the state of Florida, eight here in Osceola County. And whereas Florida's abundant lakes, rivers, pools, beaches and waterways provide countless recreational opportunities while underscoring the importance of water safety, education, swimming and water survival skills, vigilant supervision, emergency preparedness and the use of life jackets to help prevent drowning, and whereas the World Drowning Prevention Day serves as an opportunity to honor those whose lives have been lost, support affected families, and recommit to building safer communities through education, prevention, and awareness. Now, therefore, be it proclaimed that the Osceola Board of County Commissioners does hereby recognize July 25, 2026, as World Drowning prevention day. Done and adopted by the Osceola Board of County Commissioners here at this regular meeting on the 20th day of July of 2026. And Board, I'll make that in the form of a motion. Second.

I have a motion and a second. All those in favor, state by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes unanimously. Congratulations.

Hi, good morning. Sorry. Oh, wow. It's a long day. Good afternoon. My name is Bianca McCluskey. I'm the director at the Florida Department of Health Osceola County. And with me is Ann McDougall, our community program manager. I just want to say thank you so much to the commissioners for raising awareness on this very important topic that unfortunately affects our community too often. Drowning is the leading cause of death in children one to four, but drowning can impact anyone. And when those things happen, they are truly tragedies. Drowning completely is something that's preventable and basically takes everyone being alert and aware to make sure that those tragedies don't happen in our community. So I encourage everybody to do their best to inform themselves on things like knowing how to swim, having fences around their pools, making sure that anytime there's a child around the water that they are supervised and that you never let children have access to water without an adult around. So those are things that we can do and those are things that Anna's team is out in the community every day working really hard to make sure that children are safe and there's tons of partners during this day and this month that are working really hard to make sure that everyone is aware. So I just encourage everybody to take a moment, visit some of the national websites, go to the health department site, get informed. And if you ever see a child around water and they're not being watched, you can be that water watcher for them. Thank you.

Thank you.

I'm going to take a picture. Yeah, that's good. You're in a good spot.

One, two, three. One, two, three. Take out some of the screen. I'll just see where you're going.

Rick, you spin that around. That's all right. All right, board, that now brings us to our hear the audience section. We have quite a number of folks who have signed up for item 20 and also a couple of folks who have signed up for item 23, which are under our consent, public hearing and regular public hearing items. So we'll go ahead and move on from that section to the consent agenda, which is items three through 13. Is there any items the board would like to pull for separate discussion or vote? Please let me know. If not, the chair will entertain a motion.

Move to approve.

We have a motion and a second. Seeing no further discussions on items three through 13, all those in favor state by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes unanimously. Board, that now brings us to our consent public hearing items, which are items 14 through 22. We do have a number of folks who've requested to speak on item number 20. We'll go ahead and hear from them, and then we'll bring up the rest of the consent agenda. Real quick, County Manager, I know you stated at the beginning of this that Evergreen Boulevard was being removed from this item.

Everest Place Boulevard.

Excuse me for that. So if the folks who signed up for item 20, if you could raise your hand if you signed up to speak for Everest or if you're speaking on a different item on item 20. Anybody? Different. Okay, perfect. That's great. All right. We'll go ahead and start calling up our speakers. Our first request to speak is Jimmy Ruiz-Pagan. And Jimmy, you will have three minutes to speak. Please give your name and address for the record, okay? Just come on up to the microphone.

Good evening. My name is Jimmy Ruiz Pagan. 2938 Parking Settlement Road, Kissimmee. I was expecting to be the first one. I'm actually on behalf of my location and also my neighbors. That road is about to be planned to be built over there. It affects so many ways because I have been a resident in Los Alacanes for over 36 years now. I've seen what goes on to different changes and progress, but I never thought I was going to be in the other end.

MR. And, Jimmy, I think you're speaking about Everest, right? That's the roadway you're speaking?

MR. At first, I know it doesn't have a name. MR. Okay. MR. That was the one that runs all the way to Lago Buendia.

Yes, and County Manager, that is the road you spoke about is being removed from this item. So your concern is not, we're not moving forward that road that you're expressing concern about in this specific item at this time today.

Mr. Chairman, I think they may be here for another road that's being addressed in this. If I can, I'd like Mr. Stengel to come to the microphone and address.

Make sure we don't create any confusion here.

Good evening, Board. Ray Stangle, Community Development Department. I think the item, the roadway that the folks are here to talk about is the Big Sky Rural Enclave Road that goes from Neptune Road through the 57 acres that the county purchased for industrial development across 192, across Big Sky Boulevard, and then goes up to Park and Settlement Road. That's what I think they're here to talk about.

Okay, sorry. I apologize. We are confused up here, so I'm incorrect on that. Sorry. Okay. Jimmy, you can come on back up. You still got two minutes at least, I know of. I apologize for that, sir. Sorry for the confusion. Okay.

No problem. As I was saying, I never thought I was going to be on the other end of the spectrum. And being here, I mean, I really ask each one of you guys, every member, to consider this project because this project is not just affecting the wilderness, the people, but also elderly, retiree, people who actually are on fixed income. I'm not as directly affected as other people, but it affects my piece of heaven. That place when we bought it for my family, my son is here. I have my other one at home. It's a place that, like I said, it's a piece of heaven. It's safety, secure, peaceful, okay? And then now having that road, it's going to be noisy. Well, the crime comes along with it, as we already know, because if you've been here in Oceana County long enough, you know how the growth has multiplied crime as well. Also, in 30 cities that I've been here, I never saw so much wildlife. In Oceana County, I live in BVL, Morningside, And it was only eight years ago that I moved to my house. I saw so much wildlife that I had never seen in my life here. Okay? So that's another impact that we actually need to consider. I know we have to grow. I don't have an issue with that. But please, wait the consequences of all that growth in this community. Environmental-wise, it affects drainage, also the source of power. You know, I've never seen so many blackouts in Osceola County until Lately, in the last couple years, that's also because we're not prepared for the growth. And that road will bring growth because a lot of the neighbors are going to sell. And we all know that because they're taking away their peace and quiet. Okay. And I just wanted to say that Mr. Hsu, when he speaks, I, myself, and my family support him. And again, I ask each one of you members to please consider when you vote, consider if it's a brother, sister, mother, father.

Thank you, Jimmy. That's your time. Thank you, sir. Next up, we have Nick, and I apologize, Nick. Gosh, that's terrible. Nick Donconsuso. D-A-N-C-A-E-S-C-O. Nick, there is no address. Going once, going twice. All right. Andres Aviles. Andres, welcome, sir. And if you'll please give your name and address for the record, and you'll have three minutes to speak as well.

Welcome, sir.

My name is Andres Aviles. I'm at 2922 Parton Center Road. And I have a very big concern about the proposed road that is going to come from Neptune Road to Parton Center Road. And according to the map, it's going to go right through my house, my property. So in other words, my house will be taken away from me to build that road. There's a lot of empty spaces to my left and to my right with no houses, no buildings. I don't see why it can be done through the other side. So like I said, I'm my age, and after I worked so hard to get the property, I won't have a place to go. So I humbly ask you, please vote no and you'll be helping everybody besides me. The whole community that will be involved for the construction of that road. Thank you very much.

Thank you, sir. Thank you for your time. Next speaker we have is Rafael Omo. Welcome, Rafael.

Hello.

And please give your name and address for the record.

You'll have three minutes as well. Rafael Omo, 2914 Parton Settlement Road, Kissimmee, Florida, 34744. As Aviles said, I live right behind Mr. Aviles. I've been there 18 years. He's been there probably 22 years. I put all my money into buying this property and building this house. I'm in the middle of building a mother-in-law suite, and now I get this. I brought up my kids here in that house, my grandkids, and you guys want to put a road directly in the middle of my living room. I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHO THOUGHT OF THIS PLAN WHEN THERE'S OTHER ROADS ON THE SIDE THAT YOU CAN WIDEN UP. IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG IMPACT FOR A LOT OF US THAT LIVE RIGHT THERE. YOU'RE COMING RIGHT THROUGH OUR HOUSES. I'M NOT SAYING ON THE SIDE. THE LINE SHOWS RIGHT THROUGH. I APPRECIATE IF YOU GUYS REALLY THINK REALLY HARD ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE PLANNING TO PROPOSE AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IMMINENT DOMAIN TO US AND GIVE US THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR OUR HOUSES, I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS. I just want to put that on record.

Thanks, sir. And next we have Norberto Nieves. Welcome, Norberto. Once again, if you'll give your name and address for the record, you'll have three minutes to speak as well, sir.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS NOBERTO NIEVES-CASTIANO, 2896 PARKING SELEMENT. I'M A DIRECT NEIGHBOR FROM MR. AVILES AND MR. RAPHAEL. AND I'M THE NEWEST NEIGHBOR, PRETTY MUCH. I'VE BEEN THERE FOR A YEAR. I LOVE THE COMMUNITY. I hope that you reconsider this. Like Mr. Aviles said, there's plenty of spaces. It doesn't make any sense to actually turn down, you know, with the current value of these houses, turn down and displacing, you know, veterans, pretty much the whole community. I'm a newly retired master sergeant from the Air Force, okay, and I just pretty much, that's my home retirement. Mr. Aviles and Mr. Orlando, they're going to be impacted, and Mr. Rafael, directly with this road that For us, it doesn't make any sense. Like Mr. Aviles says, there's plenty of land on the side and access roads on the side that could be directed. And come on, everybody is a... pretty much a good store of the taxpayer money. It doesn't make any sense to pay this much for houses that are going to be torn down when there's vacant land that could be redirected and cheaper for everybody. So that would be a solution for if you have to decide. Please reconsider to go that way if you have to. I mean, it doesn't make any sense to spend millions of dollars buying this gentleman's property just to put it down to when you could actually redirect a couple of hundred feet more to the side or directly to a road that is actually, Fortune Road will be the perfect way to go, but I'm not a plan commissioner or anything like that or a developer. But like they said, there's a little piece of heaven in the middle of the city. Okay. And some of us like it like that. We encourage growth, but there's ways to do it. We know there's going to be an industrial development behind, but that comes with like, let's say, would you like to have trucks right next to you or, you know, going 24-7? We don't like that. and that we don't want to have that around us. Please vote no to this matter. I really appreciate your time and please reconsider again. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Next we have Sandra Schaller. Welcome, Sandra.

That's quite all right.

You've got your name and address. You've got three minutes as well.

Okay. Sandra Schaller, 2942 Parton Settlement Road. As a 22-year resident of this community, I am opposed to the proposed roadway connection. We are asking the board to reject this item. Our area is already suffering from excessive building overcrowding caused by too much development. The solution is to the expansion is not to build more roads through quiet neighborhoods, but I am suggesting a possible moratorium to cap future building so the county can balance growth with preservation of our existing community. The recent shift from low density to medium density directly disrupts our established living conditions. It destroys the quiet environment we choose to live in, and it specifically degrades our daily quality of life. It's concerning to see the county seemingly acting on behalf of private developers' layout preferences rather than protecting its own taxpayers. as we all are. It is unjust to threaten vulnerable long-term senior veterans and disabled residents with the stress of eminent domain just to facilitate corporate private development. This roadway and the rapid overdevelopment surrounding it are actively destroying our local forests, native plant life, and vital wildlife inhabitants. Replacing natural terrain with massive tranches of concrete prevents rainwater from naturally filtering into the ground, depleting our groundwater supply, worsening air and water pollution, and accelerating local energy consumption. More concrete directly equals less groundwater and a fractured ecosystem. I fear our government should serve as a shield for its residents, not a tool for private real estate speculation. We urge you to stand with your constituents, protect our neighborhood, safeguard our environment, and vote no against the CPA 26001. That's it. Thank you for your time.

Thank you so much, ma'am.

Thank you for your time.

Next, we have Carlos Torres. Carlos, and I believe you, Tracy Borda. Is Tracy Borda here? Yep, I just wanted to make sure you were here. Perfect. Carlos, you have six minutes to speak. Please give your name and address.

All right. Carlos Torres, 2921 Big Sky Boulevard. I'm at the opposite end of this proposed road. And does that road really have a name? No, it doesn't.

Not at this time.

That road will cut right through my backyard. When the Big Sky housing development was proposed, everybody said, oh, it won't impact you. They raised the level of that entrance road sufficient enough that every time it rains, it floods my driveway. We have complained to the planning people, the inspectors, the county, and nothing has been done. The proposed road is also going to be higher than my current level of my yard. So now if that road goes through, I will be flooded left and right, east and west, which is going to ruin the value of my property. let alone that road cuts right through my backyard. What privacy do I have? I have a pool out there. So now people driving through to the proposed industrial area north of me, the Cook's property, tractor trailers are gonna be cutting through there. There's sidewalks on both sides. They're going to be in my yard. What protection privacy will I receive? Because I haven't heard anything from anybody. And unfortunately, the county is doing a poor job of notifying homeowners of these meetings. The other thing that concerns me is Friday 1 o'clock, I registered on the County Board of Commissioners website to speak at this meeting. When I showed up early today, because Tracy warned me, I asked the staff downstairs, am I on the schedule to speak? Oh, nobody registered. So your failure of the county website is disenfranchising the resident's ability to speak if they don't show up early or they get caught in traffic. Fred is a perfect example of that. He showed up late because of traffic. Traffic in Osceola County? Imagine that. He can't speak because he missed the deadline. That framework road will cut from Neptune through the property that the county, I guess, owns right next to City of Life, will cut across 192. Is there going to be a light there? Or is that too close to the light at the shopping center right there? Because we've been told, oh, you can't have roads too close. But yet the road between the Tesla dealership and Osceola Parkway, a tenth of a mile, We'll put a light at Simmons. Why didn't Simmons? Why not? Oh, because there's a cemetery there. People have talked to the minister for that church where that cemetery is located. The cemetery is 500 feet from the road with no plans to expand it. That's a family area where family plots are located. There's no expansion for that cemetery. Wyden, Simmons, put a light there. You've put a light in other places, and I understand the light may not be your responsibility, it might be FDOT's, but the last time we had a meeting about Simmons and a light, we were told, I was told, we're not gonna put a light there unless enough people, enough fatalities occur to justify that light. So that seems like really concern about the residents of Osceola County. We don't put a light up unless enough of you are killed. That seems really kind of cruel to the residents. Now, as far as that road, yeah, it goes through my property. The cooks who are just north of me are the ones who are asking for that variance or that change of zoning to be industrial. Why? Why industrial? There is plenty of land east of St. Cloud. There is plenty of land south. You have, what's that, how big is that piece of property just next to City of Life that's all industrially zoned? Why put something on 27 acres? I've talked to people, a nursing home specifically, an assisted living community in Melbourne, they would love that 27 acres put an assisted living facility there. They would jump at the chance. Plenty of people would. Not an industrial complex and warehouse complex that's going to have lights, which will ruin the peaceful quiet of the night, and I know that was one thing you were in that meeting when we argued with the developer about night lights shining up and blinding everybody. Well yeah, they put in good lights, I'll accept that, but a warehousing area? That's going to have lots of lights blasting right into my yard. Now the original road, the original thing we were told, is that road would cut up across 192 towards that Big Sky development and my yard, my engines drive, go up and straddle the swales for that development and my driveway cut right through my house, through my house, not around it, through it, make this weird turn and then go north into that industrial park. The latest one just cuts through Big sky, behind people's houses, you'll destroy one person's house, the trail right there on the very corner, probably the two people next to them, you'll destroy their houses because that road, even though it's now two lane roads, it's gonna be in their yards, it'll destroy their yards and their property, and then through an empty lot, right through my backyard. I would appreciate it that the vote for this framework road gets turned down. Widen Simmons. You've already got an existing road. Take advantage of that. Or is it because they want to put that road empty out on the development right there on Parton Settlement Road? Roads can be fixed. You've got plenty of time to fix roads. You've got too many roads that are being fixed now. Fix that road, fix Simmons, and leave the people's homes alone. You've got a lot of stuff to fix. Your staff was...

Thank you, Carlos. Next up, we have Ryan Chui. Chiu. Sorry, Ryan.

I do have printed references as exhibit A and B. Can I submit? I have already submitted to the... Yes, Chairman.

That's what we disseminated to the board. That's the letter we've got right here.

Good.

Okay.

Thank you very much. One second before we start. Is Orlando Torres here? I'm sorry?

Orlando Torres.

Perfect. So I have six minutes altogether?

Yes, sir. You sure do. I just wanted to make sure he was here to designate it. Okay. Give your name and address for the record, and it's all yours. Thank you.

No problem. Good evening, Commissioners. My name is Ryan Chu, and I'm a resident and property owner at 2934 Parting Settlement Road. Today, I'm speaking on behalf of the vast majority of our neighborhood enclave. We submitted a unified resolution to your offices last Thursday, and I'm providing copies tonight as exhibit A. Tonight, we present two clear options forward. Our primary position is to ask the board to vote no on the final adoption of CPA 260001 and completely scrap this corridor. However, if unfortunately the board determines that the infrastructure connection here is an absolute necessity, our secondary option is for you to adopt the alternative red highlighted route we formally submitted previously and provided here as exhibit B, which straightens the corridor onto vacant land. So we strongly urge the board to reject the current destructive alignment based on the following two critical factors. First, immediate home destruction and human cost. The current proposed alignment requires the direct destruction of at least three occupied primary homes in our neighborhood. These are the homes of long-term senior and disabled residents. Second, no meaningful local benefit, unnecessary taxpayer liability, and private developer subsidy. To be clear, there is no urgency to approve this map today, but there is absolute urgency to protect our residents and vote no tonight. If this map is adopted into county policy, the consequences for Osceola taxpayers are immediate and severe. The reality is that the county has no operational need to adopt this roadway project tonight. The existing Simmons Road is already adequate for us, and this proposed corridor provides no meaningful benefit to current residents. Instead, it exclusively serves the interests of future private developers. Under the county's own Land Development Code Section 445, future developers are already legally compelled to build and fund these parallel access roads at their own expense. when they eventually develop. There is no reason for the public to advance this map tonight when our own code require the private market to handle it in the future at zero public cost. On the contrary, By formally adopting this corridor tonight, the county does the exact opposite. It locks itself into doing the heavy lifting for private corporations, shifting massive infrastructure liabilities directly onto the public. This exposes our taxpayers to highly expensive element domain lawsuit. Furthermore, under Florida law, the county will be legally mandated to pay not just for the affected properties, but also for the protesting residents' full attorney fees and expert witness fees, which begs the question, why should our taxpayers fund massive legal and financial liability tonight? The answer is no, we should not. Pushing this map forward tonight is a direct misuse of public funds to bail out private builders at the expense of Osceola taxpayers. In conclusion, our area has seen too much development too fast. We need a development moratorium, not a destructive new roadway, at least not as proposed. Please vote no on the current map of CPA 260001 or at least a minute tonight to adopt the alternate route that reduces residential demolition to zero. Please protect your constituents, not private developers. Please vote no. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Board, that is all the requests we have to speak on our consent public hearing items. I think staff has a presentation. If we'd like to see it, probably ought to.

I was going to ask for that.

Okay, let's go ahead and take that, too, and then we'll bring back the motion stuff once we get some more information. Welcome, Ray.

Good evening, Board. Again, Ray Stangle, Community Development Department. I have a short presentation here. So item number 20 is CPA 26001. It has a number of roadways in it. So we did remove Everest Place, but we have a lot of other roadways. But I'm going to particularly address the road in Big Sky. Please. So this is the comparison map. So as you can see right on the existing, there is no connection, no new connection from Neptune Road to Parton Settlement. So some months ago, the board asked the staff to look at a comprehensive plan amendment for the Big Sky Rural Enclave. With the concerns to look at non-residential development Industrial and commercial that would be supported by the new turnpike interchange with 192 and the turnpike in that proximate area When staff was looking at the various land uses and where they could go we determined Through our analysis that we needed a framework road That supports the type of development that the board asked us to look at that runs, you know from through that area. And looking at that, we looked at the median openings along Parton Settlement Road, and we looked at the median openings along US Highway 192 and the median openings at Neptune Road. So for the segment on the 57 acres that the county recently purchased for job creation, it was very clear of the alignment to connect the existing directional median on 192 at Everton Drive, which is the entrance into an apartment complex in the city. And through our discussions with DOT, they agreed that that could become a full intersection, ultimately with a signal when the signal is warranted. So that was a key point as we connect to 192. The issue is you don't want to connect your framework roads to the road network where you don't have a full intersection that could support a signal that would help that transportation network. So framework roads help to move cars throughout the community. That's why they're called our framework roads. Local roads serve the proposed and existing residential and commercial development. So when we started looking, we looked at Simmons Road to try to see if Simmons Road would be a good location. The problem with Simmons Road is it doesn't connect to Parton Settlement at a median opening that would be appropriate given the existing median openings into Remington and then the next full median opening to the east, which is where we have the road aligned, which is on your right-hand side. And then, I don't know if you have driven Simmons Road, but its connection to 192 is awkward, I would say. It's not the best connection. And the shopping center, there on 192 near Simmons, that they have their own driveway that lines up with the interchange location that the Turnpike has, so they have the alignment. To try to push Simmons Road and make it a framework road and tie it through that commercial area, you would have significant costs associated with that. So that's how we came up with the alignment. The roadways on our TRN maps are conceptual in nature. They're frequently subject to relocation. And the vast majority of those roads, this one in particular, will be developer driven. When the property owners in the area are ready to sell, as with the 27 acre industrial site that has been before you before, that is being continued tonight, to allow for this map to be heard by the board and then that item can be heard, that's when the development will come. So these maps are 2050 maps. So this is what we're wanting our transportation system to look like by 2050. It will be developer driven. If the residents here that have Property in this alignment if they don't want to sell they don't have to sell the road will not go through But as you can see with the folks that live on the 27 acres, they were ready to sell they were ready to to move and and so the opportunity for them to change their land use and look at Industrial development gave them that opportunity So the the other thing is as we tie into part and settlement road, there would be an opportunity to adjust that alignment But the road will not get built without the developers and the property owners being a part of that. Just because we put the road on our TRN maps doesn't mean we're going to use our powers of condemnation and we're going to purchase and build this road. It's not the purpose of this map. It's to preserve that general corridor and allow development to happen in a progressive manner when the folks in the neighborhoods want development to happen. So that's just a brief discussion about how this road came about. Item 23, which is before you tonight, is the conceptual or the comp plan amendment that supports the proposed land uses that staff will be presenting. But again, the county is not planning on putting any public dollars towards this roadway. This would be a developer driven roadway. It gets constructed as the residents and as the property owners in the area want development to happen.

Okay.

Commissioner Booth, I think you have a question.

Ray, could you remind me again what roads are on this? Is Milder Bass on this?

I'm sorry?

Is the Milder Bass road on this one or not? I don't remember seeing it on there.

I believe it is. We're looking at some map changes in that area.

Correct. Yep. I have issues with that one, but... I understand it, and just for the audience, just so you understand that making it a framework is what allows us to be able to force the developer. whoever develops the property to have to build the road, correct? Correct. Without county dollars, with private dollars, correct?

Yes. And the one gentleman that referenced 4.4.5G, that is the segment that says the developer has to build it. But it's important for the county to establish a generalized corridor to support the land use changes that we're considering tonight.

Commissioner Jaynor?

Yeah.

sorry uh so i i mean we've had a lot of conversations about this area and about simmons road and i would love to see simmons road one and i don't think that's going to happen but my concern is and i understand this is a proposed framework road and i understand it's needed but is there any way that we could make the alignment like A gap like realign it so that these people's houses will not be run through. I know there's a lot of land back there because it does concern me. I know it's a 2050 map and it's it'll take a developer to come in, but we don't know if a developer is going to come in next week and say hey. I want to do X, Y, and Z. And then they're stuck with this headache of their properties being cut through. And I'm very concerned about that for them. I mean, this is not just as a caveat, this is not my district, but I'm very familiar with the area. I use Simmons Road practically on a daily basis, sometimes several times a day. And I agree with them in terms of why cut through somebody's property when we have maybe other options that we could do? Have we looked at a different alignment perhaps?

So Commissioner, we did look at different alignments through here. And what I could say is nobody's house is going to be removed until they're ready for it to be removed and until they're ready for this road to go in place. But there are other segments of the road that could be constructed where folks are ready that would serve that general area. So if that last segment doesn't get connected to Parton Settlement Road, it maybe lacks in time because those people aren't ready to sell their properties or to consider that, then The remaining portion of the roadway and the connection down to 192 and Neptune would still serve the community. And we do look at those options. So the one gentleman that was here before you that talked about the exhibit A's and B's, we would take a look at that now if the property owners that were, say, to the east of this alignment wanted to come in with a development. and they could show that they have an appropriate alignment and maybe there's an adjustment to a median opening and they would shift the median opening. The board can move median openings around. We do it all the time. So if there was another alignment on a property owner that was willing to sell now and bring that development, then this map would facilitate it. We'd make that adjustment at that time and we would have more community meetings when The zoning comes in. So again, this is land use, which is 2050. This map is 2050. And then as we come in with the zoning, that could come into play there. If they're building that roadway, that would be a preliminary subdivision plan. That plan would come back to the board for consideration.

Have we looked, Mr. Chairman, if I may, have we looked at if you're saying there's a possible connection for an interchange at Everton Drive, have we looked at then maybe looping, instead of doing a full connector road that way, looping back into Simmons Road and then making... opening up the median and doing a light there, because then you would be past the area of the shopping center if you do it that way, and you get rid of all this headache. I don't know if that's a possibility, but I've been a proponent of widening Simmons Road for a while, and I also do believe there should be a light at that instead of that median that we have and people doing that U-turn and that whole inconvenience. So I would like for that to be looked at if that's any possibility at all.

So we did look at that as a possibility. The concerns that we have is the The signal that serves the shopping center and the interchange, that will stay there as long as the turnpike is a turnpike. And that's a new interchange that's going in. So I don't see that changing. Trying to add a signal at Simmons would be significant.

No, no, no, no. You're getting it wrong. Now, I'm saying put the signal on Everton.

Okay.

Look, I'm just I'm just saying high level theoretical. Then loop behind. Right. And then go on Simmons and do a signal interchange at Parton Settlement in Simmons.

I think he was saying the light was too close for your neighborhood.

And it's not too close. We have two standards. We have we have lights closer. So I know that that could be done. I would like to see that at least studied and considered. I know there's other items on this comp plan amendment. That's what, the comp plan amendment. So, you know, I definitely, you know, I don't have an issue with the others. I think Commissioner Booth said he had an issue with some other things. But I would like this maybe to be removed for now and let's look at it a little bit more before we make any decisions on this. And I know that we have to put in this framework more Nothing's happened yet. That's just my recommendation, guys. I know we need to put the framework road in. I know it's needed for the future, but I think that maybe there's a better way to maybe accomplish it, and let's look at it some more. So I would feel more comfortable with this whole amendment if we could remove this particular planned avenue that you have it on your thing for now, pass the rest of the comp plan amendment unless somebody else wants to pull something else. No, no, no.

I'd rather table the whole thing.

And then come back. Or if you want to table the whole thing.

Well, because I'm never going to support the widening of Mildred Bass.

So, yeah. Right.

So county manager, I know she's got her light on. Let's get her input.

Thank you. Thank you. It's a great segue from Commissioner Jenner. I was just going to ask Ray if this particular map wasn't necessarily urgent. Could it be removed from tonight's item? And we'll continue to work on this and work with the residents in the area and bring it back at a later date.

We could certainly do that. What would happen is I would request the board continue item 23 because the framework road is critical to the recommendations that staff is making. And then the applicant initiated complaint amendment and industrial that's on continuance tonight, I think it's item 17. In 18, those will have to either Be continued indefinitely or continued to a date certain in August once we've had a chance to look at those those plan amendments and rezoning czar Status recommendation and where those are are critical to the route that we choose.

No, what? Hang on one second. I got you deputy manager a

Just one other question. Is there anything that would preclude us from continuing to work with the residents on this, even if this map was included? Because it is conceptual and it is not a permanent. It is not a etched in stone layout.

We could absolutely do that. So if the board chose to adopt this tonight with the direction to staff to go back, and look at it. This is so some of the other items could move forward and go back and look locations as we certain locations we could certainly do that and come back with Another map amendment in the future all all options available to the book.

Okay, let me run through the list here Commissioner Booth and then we'll go back to Commissioner Green Yeah, I was just gonna ask if we couldn't is there an issue would just we're just holding off a month on the whole on the whole thing Just because I just have issue. Do you have the Mildred Bass exhibit on here or not?

I

Yeah, that was the one right before. I think you passed it, Rudy. This one? No, it said, there it is right there. So you've got that as a boulevard.

Yes, sir.

Is that planned for widening then?

So, again, that's another road that Mildred Grass Bass would be widened. That's the road that aligns with our premium plan. That road would be part of the network as a planned boulevard.

East of Canoe Creek. This is east of Canoe Creek. Do you have this included as east of Canoe Creek as well?

Yeah, I think that's on. I guess that's all over down in my area.

I swear I saw it. You would have already been by it, I think.

So that's on, I believe, on this map. If you look to the very bottom, our existing map still shows Mildred Bass Our existing map shows Mildred Bass as a planned avenue, and it's proposed to be a planned avenue. On the east of Canoe Creek.

Yeah, Board, I mean, this is, we gotta go back like five years now, and this was actually the main reason I voted against, one of the main reasons I voted against the conceptual master plan, because I do not agree with doing anything to Mildred Bass Road. We gotta, again, sound like a broken record, we got a lot of open space, that's where the premium transit road should have been that's where all the roads should have been that's where all the widening should happen inside the raw land not by going down the street and widening into people's yards that's just my opinion you got to go back five years to do that so at each step i've been against that i don't mind um you know it's up to you i'm gonna vote i'm gonna vote against this as long as this remains um but it is what it is, and to speak on what the people are speaking on. Yeah, I'm all for a realignment, looking at what we could do different. I mean, to understand how this process works, this stuff isn't going to, we're not in some sort of mood to eminent domain three houses and buy them. That's a long ways away. However, I don't mind saying if we have to wait to vote on item 23, I'm ready to support that because Commissioner Arrington and I, I know, spoke up really big when that first residential development came up and we're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we don't need another 2,000 houses. We've got an interchange coming here. Let's see what we can do in the commercial and industrial side. So, Ray, you and your team have done a great job of doing that. But I don't disagree with Commissioner Jayner to say let's try to get something that's maybe a little bit more palatable there if we can um to get there i'm but i'm all for item 23 as the way we did it not as the way the planning commission's in the bank okay all right let me share our creep

i agree as well that um on 23 for not planning commission but what staff came up with but um again we're not looking at taking anyone's homes this will be developer driven it's lines on a map right now that can be moved And so, you know, as the county manager said, we can work with the citizens and see if there is another alignment. But I'd like to move it forward at least so some of these other projects can also move forward. Because if we don't, then we are stuck having the taxpayers pay for the roads as opposed to having our lines on the paper. That's my thoughts.

Commissioner Chowdhury?

Yes, and so just in listening on everything that's happening, it sounds to me like there's not a complete consensus on the board in one way or the other, but what I do agree with is that sometimes this thing, it does need a second look. I would actually agree to hold off on Commissioner Booth's road and also on the residence road that suggested and vote on the rest since there is no issues on the rest. And I would like to make that motion, but County Attorney, how would I do?

We're not there yet. Well, I'll be ready to make that motion if it were to come up. Okay. Commissioner Green. 17, 18, and 23.

How does that affect it if that gets delayed? I would propose to give staff some more time to go back to the residents and also discuss things with Commissioner Booth.

Yeah, 23 would be the other one. Yeah.

So there's certain numbers that have to go with the current road that's being discussed too? Like for 17 or 18?

Yes, 23 goes with this from a framework standpoint and moving on. So it's all kind of It's all a little bit connected. Okay, so to the staff, I guess.

Okay, so to the staff, what would be a suggestion that would meet what I was just asking for to make sure that the other items could also be continued that's supposed to be continued with the right roads, just so that it makes sense?

I can't wait to hear what you all say.

Let me go back to the map. Put you on the spot, of course.

Oops. So the board could approve CPA 26-1 with an amendment to the Big Sky alignment that it runs from Neptune Road to Sharp Road, and then directing staff to look at the rest of the alignment as it approaches Neptune Road, which would allow the two applicant-initiated complaint amendment and zoning items could move forward, because they're south of Sharp Road. The Sharp Road touches the industrial that we're proposing on the north side of Sharp Road. That's important. It would have connectivity, so it's consistent with our map on 23. And then we would come back to the board with a new alignment from Sharp Road to Parton Settlement.

Please.

Could I ask for clarification? It sounds like that's kind of what I was saying before, having that interchange that you suggested and then going on to Sharpeville and possibly looking at Simmons as a connection.

Correct.

Yeah, versus what's on this map right now.

Or any other viable option, I think is the idea.

So yeah, I would feel comfortable if we could pass it that way, because that would take their concerns you know settle their concerns and honestly minds as well so i would feel comfortable with that commissioner grieve if that's kind of um and i would be supporting as well commissioner booth's request to take military bass road um off of this just for the record um whenever we get there okay and commissioner chadron you had your hand back i was going to say that as well um just to also consider what commissioner booth is requesting as well

Okay. So let me see if I can address Commissioner Boo's concern. Let's go back to that one real quick.

Nope.

Sal.

There it is.

So when you look at this map, we have a lot of changes on the northern side of the map to support the Rhone Bridge development that's in St. Cloud. And so I believe St. Cloud has adopted a series of developments in that we're aligning our map with what St. Cloud wants to develop as. Since Mildred Bath isn't being, it's shown on the map, but it isn't being amended, If the board wanted to direct us to look at an alternative from Mildred Bass, we certainly could do that. But it's not proposed for an amendment in this round. It's staying consistent. But this would allow us to be partners with St. Cloud and keep their development consistent.

Board, I would be fine if we could say if there's consensus here, and I appreciate all of your support, to say to direct staff, we can go ahead and approve everything except for the one like we're talking about. Because Mildred Bass has kind of already been approved. added throughout the last few years but it was just a good a good time to talk about uh and so i appreciate your support it was a good time to talk about that stretch between east of canoe creek road to essentially story road to say hey get this one off your dadgum maps and figure out something else because we have the aggregation rule there. That area is likely not to see any changes in their residential usages there, the larger lot homes, the one acres, the five acres, the two acres. So just get it off our map and do something different. I've been on this, you know, on that for a long time um but so i appreciate the support tonight so i would actually you don't have to remove what they have here but if we could just have a good consensus tonight that we we're asking staff as a commission not just commissioner booth to look at the uh that stretch of milder bash road and getting it off of any sort of planned widening or anything and coming up with another solution because there's plenty of vacant land to the south a lot and we need to figure out what's going on down there okay county attorney

I was just going to know, because I think I heard two kind of options for the other road, the Big Sky alignment. What I'm hearing is it's either amending, modifying how that alignment ends toward Everton, And then there was also the discussion of adopting it as it is today based on the analysis staff has put forward. And then, no, it wasn't that one.

What is proposed is to look at the map as it exists from Neptune to Sharp with continued conversations with the community from Sharp north to Parton Settlement. Okay. Right? That's what we all heard? Okay. I'm good with that. Okay. Okay. Are we any other questions before we actually get into the community consent? Yeah, I think so. Nobody has any other questions. All right. Thank you, Ray. Yes. OK, so now we're coming to our consent public hearing. We've already heard all of our public hearing. So this is items 14 through 22. The chair, I'm going to vote county attorney. I'm going to be voting no on item 14. I don't necessarily need to pull it. I'm just not in support of it. Pool item 20.

Do you want? Well, I can make a motion if you'd like to approve with 20. However, the item for the Big Sky area, the road alignment from. 192 to Sharp Road only.

Neptune to Sharp.

Neptune, sorry. Neptune to Sharp only.

Yep.

And with staff looking at alternative options for Sharp North.

With input from the community.

With input from the community.

Yep. Okay. And then also... the Mildred Bass portion as well.

That's not part of it.

That's fine, county attorney.

That's the mistake. You all have given direction.

Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor state by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes unanimously. All right, board, that now ends our consent public hearing item, and that brings us to our one public hearing item this evening, and that is item 23. Ken, please.

I'm sorry, I want to make sure we did do the other items. Yes, ma'am.

We got a motion for everything. I voted.

Mr. Chairman, I have to step up for a moment. I just want to express my yes support to item number 23. Thank you, ma'am. As we as we staff recommends, not thank you.

I appreciate that. Can I turn anything else?

Sounds good. OK.

Yes, we did.

We sure did. We covered it all. Ken, you're up. Item 23, approval to transmit to the Florida Department of Commerce a county-initiated large-scale comprehensive plan amendment to change the future land use map designation from rural enclave to low-density residential, medium density and intensity, institutional and industrial, from community center to institutional, from commercial to institutional, from institutional to industrial, and from low-density residential to medium-density and intensity and industrial, on certain real property generally located north of East Earl O'Bronson Memorial Highway and the St. Cloud Canal, south of and adjacent to Parton Settlement Road, east of and adjacent to East Earl O'Bronson Memorial Highway, and west of Lakeshore Boulevard, and comprised of approximately 413.85 acres, more or less.

Good evening, board. Ray Stangle, community development administrator. Got a short presentation for you. So back in 2025, the board asked through a statement of legislative intent to look at the rural enclave. We did that. We brought it to the board on November 17. It was continued to the May 18 board meeting to allow staff to further evaluate potential for non-residential areas in the study area and improve and address Simmons Road. We did that and brought it back to you in May. And the board asked us again to continue the item till tonight and reduce the residential development at industrial maintain more of the rural enclave allowing for lot splits and and then hold another community meeting which we did so This was the map we presented at the third community meeting on June 23rd. We did do some adjustment to the roadway alignment. We talked about that enough, I think. So I won't harp on that. We've got that covered. We did reduce the LDR and we added industrial maintained rural enclave. We were going to allow for lot splits in this particular rural enclave through an amendment to our land development code. So currently our land development code says in rural enclaves you can't split, you can't do a five acre split. So for this rural enclave we could allow for that five acre split. It would account for about 44 more units in that green area. And during the community meeting there was some opposition to the industrial. And then this notes the location of CPA 26 and ZMA 2612 that the board continued to the August meeting. So we presented it to the Planning Commission. And they came up with something like this. And I'm going to finish. Move. I'll work through these. So they focused on the areas in the two circles and they removed the industrial north of Sharp Road and they changed the area in the rural enclave that staff is recommending to remain to go to LDR. They kept the medium density and intensity along Parton Settlement Road and kept the institutional. This is a side-by-side comparison. So the staff's recommendation from the board's direction, we actually removed a net 446 residential units. We provided 116.57 acres of industrial. We provided 148 acres of institutional, 48 acres of medium density and intensity, and we did have some low density residential north of the Big Sky community in the industrial north. So between your medium density and intensity and the Big Sky community, we included that block as residential, and I think Ms. Owens spoke to the board at that last meeting that that group of property owners wanted to see that residential. The Planning Commission recommendation adds around a net increase of about 2,300 units. It reduces the industrial by 57 acres. It keeps the institutional medium density and intensity, and it adds a little over 300 acres of low density residential. So my recommendation tonight is to approve and transmit the staff recommendation of CPA 25-4 to the Florida Department of Commerce for interagency review. I do want to note, I did adjust between DRC and tonight There's a .65 acre parcel that's nestled on the north side of Sharp Road next to the Big Sky residential PUD that I had industrial. It really needs to be LDR to support that single house, that single family house. So, again, it's a .65 acre adjustment. I wanted to bring that to the board's attention that I wanted to fix that. And that's our presentation.

Perfect. Any questions of staff at this time? All right. Seeing none, we do have a couple of public comments. Thank you, Ray. All right, what's our public comment for this item? Our first speaker is Katerina Cedeno. Katerina Cedeno, C-E-D-E-N-O. I think she needs an interpreter and we are providing an interpreter for her. What did I say?

Hola, buenas tardes.

Hola, good afternoon.

Mi nombre es Catarina Cedeño. Mi dirección.

My name is Katarina Sadeño.

My address is 2960 Sharp Road. 2960 Sharp Road.

Can I ask you, ladies, I'm sorry, can you all stand a little closer to the microphone?

Is that better?

As close as you can get to that podium, please.

Gracias. Okay. Bueno, he venía aquí para presentarme porque no estoy de acuerdo con el proyecto industrial que quieren hacer.

So I'm here because I want to talk about I'm against the industrial part of the project that was proposed.

I live just on Sharp Road. I have two houses in the Big Sky community. Sí, hice la inversión en ese lugar porque me pareció un lugar rodeado de mucha naturaleza, muy tranquilo.

The investment was done because I appreciated the wilderness and just the environment in that area.

Sí, y no me imagino un lugar lleno de camiones y de actividad industrial.

I cannot imagine an industrial site there or even trucks coming in and out of that area.

Sí, entonces no estoy de acuerdo.

So I'm opposed to it. Gracias. Thank you.

Thank you. Next, we have Francisco Cintron. Welcome, Francisco. And you'll have three minutes. Please give your name and address for the record, sir.

Good afternoon, Commissioner. I'm Francisco Cintron, 1525 Erin Bridge Lane. I will boast the same of Katerina, because I served 42 years in the military. I look for the quiet place, the same for the master sergeant here. Because people tell me, oh, go to Southern City, San Claude. San Claude is far away, a little bit from the Tempe. And most of the people around is a farm, and it's a wetland. And you have the little bird, Orin Broson. And I feel safe there. I served in 1991, 2001, 2003, enduring freedom, Iraqi freedom. I'm looking for the freedom. I'm not looking for the industrial area to kill us there. Thank you very much.

Thank you, sir. Next, we have Carlos Torres and Tracy Borda. Are you still here? Tracy, right?

No, you take it. I'll give you.

Trying to do it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's not how it works. Once you. He gets that time. I don't get to give it back, ma'am. I'm sorry. I have you down giving your time for him on 23 as well. I don't have you signed up. Okay. No worries. Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate that. Welcome, Carlos. How confusing is this?

You know, you come to these meetings. as residents and you look at these maps and the maps are terrible. I mean, I can't tell what you're really voting on. I could see the, I could read it, but looking at that map, especially that is very confusing because they are so small. There is also some miscommunication happening between when the residents went to the planning commission a couple of weeks ago and this meeting, I was told by people on the planning commission that this framework road would be appraised. If I didn't want to flat out sell it, it would be appraised. And if I didn't agree to it, it would be taken by eminent domain at the planning commission. You weren't there. I was.

Sure. So there is a lot. Still doesn't make it right, unfortunately.

Well, I know it doesn't make it right, but you understand our confusion is we're told one thing at a planning commission, another thing at this commission meeting. So which one happens? The community meetings, I feel sorry for the planning staff because they get hammered by the residents who are upset, all of them and plus more. A lot of times they just say, I agree with you, I don't think it's right, but I can't do anything about it. So the poor residents are left kind of hanging out there, not knowing what the hell is going on. It's very poorly communicated. I wish at times that some of you would come to those community meetings and be a face, or at least stand there and listen to the residents voice their opinions. I think you'd understand the concern. Now you've approved, or part of this, number 23, is the industrial area north of Sharp. Does that include the industrial proposition south of Sharp? The Cooks property? That's 27 acres. Is that included in this? Yes? No? Maybe? No.

The 27 acres is an applicant-initiated application that was continued by the board to August 18.

OK. So we come back. I'll see you August 18. A lot of the residents in that area, and I've been in that area 35 years. I've been in the county 50. Tells you I'm a senior citizen. A lot of us bought that land looking for peace and quiet. Unfortunately, you agreed to the Big Sky development, all 322 homes and townhomes, which has now become a racetrack and their entrance drive. There's a particular silver Mustang that roars through there like a house on fire. Every resident knows it. and you're talking within a couple hundred feet of all our houses, this guy rips down that road twice a day. We just want peace and quiet. We want our private, quiet community that we've had. The Murrell property, which is that 98 acres where Big Sky was originally put, was sold and plotted and developed now, I feel sorry for those residents, because those houses are built like trash. They've had one foundation crack, The houses are totally flooding each other when it rains. Like I said before, I'm getting flooded constantly. I guess the people who are engineers for Briar Team don't know that water does not percolate when it's higher than the adjacent property. It leaches across. My problem. I can't drive through half of my driveway half of the year during the rainy season because I'd get stuck. I understand you're looking for industrial. I can accept some of that, but I'd like you to look elsewhere. Rather than putting industrial development into neighborhoods and into these things. Now, a lot of these folks live up on Port Settlement, and you keep saying the Big Sky area. Well, I'm part of the Big Sky area that's south of Sharp. And I can tell you that... If you told Boots Bronson, who's my next door neighbor, that they're going to put a road through his yard, you'd kill him. Because I've talked to his family, and they said they're not telling him because if he finds out about it at 90 years old, you'll kill him. I'd like you to consider what these folks have said. They want peace and quiet. Now, it's bad enough getting out on Big Sky onto 192, We have to wait for the light in St. Cloud to turn red and then wait for the gap. And that's if people aren't making a U-turn from City of Life back the other way. So yeah, it's difficult to get out in the morning. And then you have to race across 192 to get to the turnaround to go back into St. Cloud. It needs looking at. I agree with Commissioner Jayner that making a cut-through on Parton-Summon is no big deal. widened do the right thing be considerate of the residents who voted for you that's all thanks sir

Board, that is all the requests we have to speak on item 23, so we'll bring it back to the board. Commissioner Booth?

Yeah, I've already said I support this, and I just want to say, you know, it would have flown right through if it wasn't, so I want to give Commissioner Arrington kudos because he kind of stabbed that and brought it out of the agenda that night and started this conversation, which has been great, because what I don't want is 2,000 more houses, which is... really what the property is already kind of zoned for uh is just more residential development you have a turnpike interchange coming uh so you're already in i just wanted to say to mr torres you know i'm with you on those on those elevation numbers unfortunately those aren't our numbers that's south florida water management and the federal government And so I get it. Believe me, I know because it happens all over St. Cloud. So you already have LDR. So we told staff and thank you to staff or transportation staff or community development staff for working for, I think, over a year on this to come up with a plan that says, hey, here's a good spot for industrial. Here's a good spot where we can preserve our rural enclave. But we know rural enclave limits your building. So guess what? Let's make a special amendment so we can allow that one lot split. So if you want to your your a child to be able to build a home in there and i think that's a great win for the community um and for those folks who were maybe going to get their houses taken away for that road i mean you won the lottery with mdi uh so when that comes through if you when you want to when you don't have to when you want to i mean you have an extremely that way you already do have an extremely valuable piece of property there so i want to say i support and for those of you know the property very well miss sharp was my great great grandmother miss simmons was my great great aunt and my great grandfather and my grandfather were both born on that property so i know the property very well so i just again want to thank staff for doing this answering the question that we've put forward with is where can we have some more industrial ground we do have it spread out But if you know how industrial works, when you get those turnpike interchanges, it makes a big deal. Limiting residential development, which I have been on board for since I've been on this commission. This does that and preserving some of the rural enclave. And this does that as well. So I know there's pieces and parts of it that that some may not like or some do like. But I think it's a good it's a good start to push forward, especially it's a lot better than I think where we started over a year ago, Commissioner. So I support it. OK, I sure agree.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Commissioner Booth, you stole most of my wording, I want to say. No, absolutely, because we could have had over 2,300 homes in that area, and I think staff did a good job. They listened to the community. Not everyone's going to be happy, we know that, but with the Turnpike Interchange coming in, it made sense to have some of that industrial, at least up at that front portion. You already have the shopping center on the other side. And hopefully once development happens and with the industrial, you might wind up then with another access point that you don't have to do your turnaround in the road. That's the benefit of having lots of different access points and trying to think ahead of time for where roads should go. But again, as stated, no one's house is being taken. We're not using any domain. This is strictly developer driven because then we're able to get the developers to pay for these roads so we don't have to have the taxpayers do it. I will ask staff to get with Mr. Torres to see if we can figure out if there's an issue that we can address or have someone address with his flooding issue. I've not been aware of that. Certainly, if you have an issue and you email me, I would have staff check into that for you. But I think staff did a great job of listening to both residents and what we were looking for and looking forward to passing this. Okay.

Commissioner Chowdhury?

I was just going to comment on the differences with the additions of homes that would have been there. I think to the point of Commissioner Booth again, in my district, there was something similar. We did an industrial area, which was right off the turnpike. And I remember a lot of residents not wanting it at the time. But once we all got together and we talked about whether having that or having multifamily that will bring God knows how many units together, Right on that strip and coming in and now it just became better. And I can tell you that development is really nice and it's actually very effective right now. Like it works well, less traffic, less congestion. And so I just think that sometimes, you know, you got to think and pick and choose. What is it that you would want to see there? Because development is happening. People are moving to central florida but primarily osceola um and so we just have to place things in different areas and that was just one example that i thought i should share from the district so thank you all right i think that's all our discussion the chair will entertain a motion i have a motion and a second seeing no further discussion all those in favor state by saying aye aye opposed motion passes unanimously

Board, that is all we have for our regular agenda items. We now are on our constitutional officers. I don't believe I saw anyone here joining us today. County Attorney, anything to add today?

No, thank you.

Thank you so much. County Manager, anything to add today?

Nothing to add, thank you.

Thank you so much. I can't, Ricky. I've got them all teed up for a certain way. I'm sorry. Commissioner Jayner, you can start us off.

Okay. So bear with me. I have a couple things. First of all, a very successful seniors painting class as part of our senior initiatives on July 9th. Stay tuned. We have lots more coming up over at the robert garer community center i think you'll have some coming up in your districts next we have um oh i attended i have this on the wrong order actually the the annual uh update at the osceola chamber we had our legislative um excuse me uh with the our legislative um people and we also had Don Fisher and all the city managers there. It was a very informative update. So next. I had a chance to welcome and speak to the kids for the GEMS technology camp. It's called GAINS. in education mathematics and science or something like that this is the second year we host these kids they do a phenomenal work with them it's in conjunction with the national department well They used to be Department of Defense. I think, I guess it was Department of War. But they trained these kids on becoming engineers and digital engineers. And the experience that they have is phenomenal. And the great part is at the end of it, they receive a stipend of $125 for attending the camp. and this year they went to the Kennedy Space Center and got to meet an astronaut and see everything going on there so a great way to keep our kids learning and engaged in STEM next oh this is a pallet mover that I donated over to one of the non-profits over at the church on fortune road they feed about 400 families every month. It's a very, very popular and they were very, very appreciative. They wrote asking for county assistance with this and happy to give them a betterment grant for that. Next, I'm excited, guys. You all supported Buen Vecino along with the Council on Aging and HUD and I believe the City of Kissimmee made a small donation to that as well. We're going to finally hold that ribbon cutting. On Friday, 60, you'll be there? Great. 60 seniors will be housed at that complex right in beautiful District 2. And if you haven't seen it, it's really, really nice. Okay, cool. So I'm sure Ricky, you're gonna be there supporting and cheering us on and planning the next affordable housing for seniors complex. Next, I would like to announce my backpack and supply giveaway. It's going to be on a Saturday this year indoors at the Robert Guevara Community Center, Saturday, August 1st, beginning at 10 a.m. I don't know why there's an end time there. It's while supplies last. Will definitely probably be done before noon for anybody wanting to attend. Open to anybody in Osceola County that needs some school supplies for their kids. Children must be present while supplies last. Next, I am having a Seniors Fun Day, and this is like a better than a mango bingo type thing. We're going to have crafts and music and dominoes and a super bingo and lunch. So open to any senior, especially District 2 seniors, but any senior in Osceola County, the Robert Guevara Community Center, Tuesday, August 4th, 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. And I believe that was my last slide.

All right. Thank you so much. Commissioner Green.

Yes, we had a red, white, and bingo on Wednesday, July 8th. I was not able to attend that particular one, but they have been packed to the gills and great prizes. Everyone's enjoying the bingos that we've had over the summer. Next up. Also, we have our senior initiative. District 4, we have a, let's see, Hurricane Bingo is up next Wednesday, August 12th. And that's at the Hart Memorial Library from 11 a.m. to 12.30 p.m. So if you've not been able to make any of the other senior bingos, that's the next one up, I believe. Nope, that's not the last one. 2026 Community Resource Fair. That is going to be at our Housing and Community Services at 1392 Vine Street. It's Tuesday, July 28th from 1 to 4 p.m. You can find out about what services we have, veteran services, Florida Department of Health will be there, community legal, and there'll be other entities that can talk about how they can help you if you have a need in the community. Next, we have our back-to-school giveaway as well for backpacks. That is going to be Friday, July 31st. Starts at 9 a.m. People are usually lined up out the door. And again, while supplies last, that is at the Hart Memorial Library as well. and it's for kindergarten through 12th grade. I've had people show up with pre-K and it's no pre-K. Kindergarten through 12th grade, please. Okay, and lastly, did they put it up there? You have another one or no? Guess not. Okay, I'll hold it up. attended the Junior Davis Construction Maintenance Facility ribbon cutting. That was on July 9th. Beautiful facility that they have built out there. I mean, this huge truck wash. And of course, the property in Hoagland, we sold a portion of them. They're going to be putting their corporate offices there. This one's actually on the the city of Kissimmee Airport property. So it's a land lease, but just beautiful facility. Great job. Thank you.

Thank you.

Lastly, I have one more. I wanted to appoint Richard Hare to the Code Enforcement Board. Second.

All right. All those in favor, state by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes unanimously. Mr. Chaudry.

Thank you. I wish more residents would have stayed for this part, because then you guys can see all the involvement we all try to do be out there in our districts, in our areas, because we love to come to you guys as well to hear your concerns early on. But if you ever want to get involved, please look it up at osceola.org. There's many opportunities, including advisory boards, as you see today, that someone was just appointed, and also get involved by volunteering or going to town halls. I love to have folks included in any of the events that I participate, and I know my fellow commissioners are the same. So please know that you could participate just by going to osceola.org. You could get my contact information and so forth. This is one of our, so Grow Osceola business series. I volunteered to teach in the incubator. It was lots of fun to see a lot of our great businesses coming out of Osceola County and the incubator learning so much. I did a class not just on starting up, but most important covered things like mindset on the business and what things they should prepare regarding AI and what's coming on small businesses, how they could relate with that. So that was a lot of fun. Looking forward to doing perhaps some more of that stuff. That was fun. The other thing is, oh, we had the Four Corners Area Commissioners Task Force meeting again. As you know, we do these quarterly. We're now changing things up a little bit. We're doing them twice a year. For those who don't know, this is actually the Four Corners Area that meets Osceola, Orange, Lake, and Polk. That is four of us as commissioners from the different boards. we actually take an opportunity to meet and talk about how could we coordinate efforts working together. This board has always supported us working together with the different counties to make sure that our dollars go as far as they can when working together, including talking about transportation, about services, and so much more. So I'm there with Commissioner Santiago, which was leading the meeting, because we did it at Polk County. But it was great to see that we still are going to be meeting twice a year to make sure that not only our staff, but also new commissioners in the future have the consistency and relationship to make sure we're continuing efforts. And then, oh, yes. This was the pickleball town hall. You might be wondering, how did that go? It was great. So you might wonder, what's a pickleball town hall? So as I was mentioning, I love coming out to the residents, but I know sometimes you should have also an initiative to want to come out. So therefore, we make them fun, right? So from bingos to community affairs and events, we also do town halls. And this one particularly was on the west end. There's a brand new pickleball indoors location there. that we were able to host a town hall. We had a great turnout. Lots of kids joined the town hall, which I thought was awesome. Normally that doesn't happen. So they listened to updates of what we're doing. The student committee was also there talking about the student committee to other kids. And then we had a chance to play pickleball. and they could see what we have also on the west end to offer. So that was a lot of fun, just a creative way, and the residents really enjoyed it. I met many, many new residents that came out ever to a town hall. So that was a great thing. Of course, I held them hostage first to do the town hall itself, but then they had fun. So it was good. So please, if you want to get involved, go to osceola.org, and you could always get involved. Thanks. Awesome.

Thank you. Commissioner Booth?

All right. I don't have any slides.

I heard you're doing a cattle roping event.

I know. I will be. Cattleman's Golf Tournament, by the way, is Saturday, Osceola County. Anyway, it's already full, but it fills up every year. It's amazing. Commissioner Janer, yes. Buena Vino, is that how you say it? Buen Betino, okay? Si. All right. Whatever. You guys said it. I'll be there. And I just wanted to say just small involvement and a thank you. I got very close with the Spectrum Charter Communications folks, and we were doing a lot of the rural broadband stuff, which, by the way, has been amazing for our community. Yeehaw Junction, Keenansville. Myself, I never had quality internet until they did that, and they didn't just do it for me. They did the whole Canoe Creek Road. But because I've formed those relationships, they called a while back and said, hey, is there an organization in your community that uses our services that would be open to these grants that we give out? I said, yes, call Anciola Council on Aging. I bet they will really, really like that. And they were able to put – I don't know if they're using it to build their communication system inside the new – Buen Vacino. I don't know.

Yeah, they have a community center. I believe they're going to be using that.

There we go. And so I just wanted to say with my role, and the reason that I will be there on Friday is to celebrate that and thank them. And I wanted to do that here publicly to thank Spectrum Charter Communications for making that grant to Council on Aging because we are helping seniors in our community. And I appreciate that. So thank you to Spectrum. Thank you. And thank you, Ricky, for being such an advocate for affordable housing. Be careful.

That's a little far. Well, just real quick, once again, another great bingo event our team has put on. Kudos to them for continuing to do that. Next up, we have a free microchip event this Saturday. If you've got a dog, a cat, a bunny, or anything else you don't want to go missing, please come by, get it microchipped, register your animal so you won't lose it. And if it does get lost, our animal services will be able to call you and tell you to come pick it up once your microchip is registered. Also, last thing is our senior initiatives. Once again, I'm going to follow Commissioner Grebe and be like, our next hurricane bingo is coming up. Hopefully we're giving out information for hurricanes and maybe shortwave radios are some of the prizes or something. I have no idea, but it sounds good. But lots of great events continuing, and so kudos to our staff continuing to do those. And then one last thing. I'm still in need of District 3 folks to sign up to be on our Lakes Advisory Board. So if anyone from District 3 happens to be listening, sign up. Thank you so much. And with that, we stand adjourned.