Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Roll call, please.

Baino?

Here.

Meyer?

Here.

Van Kampen?

Here.

Nelson? Here. And Schnelly, Polda, and Molzon, and Smithback are excused tonight.

Thank you. Seeing as how we have a quorum, we'll move forward with the agenda. Item 4A, community input. We take this opportunity for allow... John, can we approve the minutes first?

Sorry.

Did I miss that? I'm sorry. I just... Sorry. Approval of minutes for July 2nd. Move to approve. Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

All those opposed? Motion carries. Now we can move on to the public appearances. Item 4A. At this time the Planning Commission allows about 15 minutes for public input. We please request that you try to keep each statement to three minutes per presenter. Obviously we are looking at more than 15 minutes because of the number of people that are here for this. We will try to accommodate that but we respectfully ask that you try to keep comments new. Don't please repeat items as much as possible please. Um, I'm going to read this and then I'm also going to give a little bit of some background information about what the plan commission can and cannot approve. Uh, so that everybody's with an understanding of a baseline here. This part of the agenda allows members of the public to provide information to the Planning Commission including items both on and off the agenda. Under the Open Meetings Law, this agenda item allows the Commission to receive information and to ask questions of a presenter to facilitate a better understanding of the information. Commission members may discuss procedural matters relating to the information such as whether the information should be directed to staff or placed on a future commission agenda. However, commission members may not expand their discussion beyond such procedural matters. And again, the 15 minutes is what we respectfully ask of people here. And then the planning commission scope includes a review of plans in accordance with the village's comprehensive plan and zoning and subdivision chapters of the municipal code. Planning commission recommendations are limited to compliance with applicable village codes and consistencies with the comprehensive and other adopted plans. Factors such as impacts on property values or tax rates or policy matters are not suited for for this commission and are best suited for elected officials on the village board to consider. So, uh, I'm going to just also preface this by saying, I may say your naming correctly. It's not personal. I just, I'm not good. So, um, we'll start with item five, a unfinished business. We have none, so we'll move on to item 6A. Oh, I'm sorry. We've got to do this first, which I completely just bypassed. So again, three minutes, please. First person is Eric Fulmer. He wishes to speak.

Can I use this? Yes. Please state your name and address, please. Sure. Eric Fulmer, 581 Concord Drive. And I am here tonight along with my neighbors to oppose this project. I live directly alongside the Foxboro Golf Course. And on at least two prior occasions, the village has reviewed proposals to convert this golf course into a residential development and chose to protect the community's interests. That history matters. It reflects a consistent recognition that Foxborough is more than a piece of real estate. It is a cornerstone to our neighborhoods and part of our community identity. When the developer first introduced his housing concept in 2022, he met with nearly 100 residents and gave his personal assurance that no adjacent homeowner would experience any negative impact to their views, their property values, or their quality of life. The current Phase 4B proposal, which places a cul-de-sac with new homes directly behind existing properties adjacent to the golf course, no longer reflects that commitment. In particular, Judith Way, 561 Concord Drive, John and Marilyn Bower, 571 Concord Drive, and my wife and myself would face obstructive views and reduced property values. When commitments are made to the community, they should be honored. Many residents alongside Foxboro, myself included, chose their homes specifically because of the green space and character of the golf course. That is a meaningful financial decision. Proposed Phase 4B development would cost adjacent homeowners tens of thousands of dollars in lost property value. But this is just the beginning of the total loss that could happen. The developer has publicly acknowledged that if the proposed 10-hole golf course proves unprofitable, further development remains on the table. Should this happen, the cumulative losses to the village homeowners could reach seven figures. I ask you to weigh this carefully. Approving a partial solution now may simply be the first step toward an outcome this community has consistently opposed. Foxborough serves the entire community, seniors, families, youth leagues, and casual players at an affordable and accessible recreational space. Reducing or eliminating it would diminish the quality of life that makes Oregon a desirable place to live. The village has protected the community before. We ask you to do it again. Please reject this proposal and preserve the Foxboro 18 hole golf course. Thank you for the opportunity to speak.

Thank you. No, no, no. We will not have applause. This is an official meeting. Please try to keep it professional. Next up is Rick Featherston, 541 Concord Drive.

Eric just did a great job summarizing what I do.

Thank you. Andrew Arholt?

I can't write.

No.

Yeah, you're good.

I do my best, just like you're trying to. Good evening, Commissioners. My name is Andrew Anhalt. I live at 765 Foxfield Road, and I'm here regarding the Foxboro Golf Course concept plans. A few specific factual points I'd like you to keep in mind. First, the west parcel is legally restricted. A recorded 1992 covenant finds that land to golf course operation, which has been well established. The only way to keep that parcel functioning as intended is a genuinely viable connected course, which is why an independent, applicant-funded review of the proposal cul-de-sac's impact on Holes 1 and 10 matters. If that redesign damages playability enough to threaten the course's overall operation, it puts the whole business at risk, including the protected west side. Second, the Eastside has designated parks and open space in your own adopted comprehensive plan, and staff's memo confirms a full comprehensive plan amendment is required just to allow the Phase 4B cul-de-sac. That amendment deserves full scrutiny, not a rubber stamp, especially since your zoning code already establishes, for variance decisions, that financial hardship, including self-imposed hardship, doesn't justify overriding zoning protection. We'd ask the Commission to apply the same judgment here, and if financial viability becomes part of this argument, we're requesting an independent, applicant-funded audit before that claim is accepted. Third, reviewing your own adopted map, it appears that the Phase 4A area is designed future use as low-scale neighborhood. That land remains an active operating golf course. Nothing has been built there. Regardless of the notice question I'll raise next, we're asking the Board or Commission to formally consider restoring a protective designation over that area now, since there's no existing construction it would disrupt. Separately, we've been unable to locate the Class 1 published notice for the December 2023 hearing, and given at least one prior missed notification from the Village, we're asking this be obtained by the Commission and added to the minutes to confirm proper notice occurred. Fourth, we intend to file a protest petition under Section 179036 If it reaches the required frontage threshold, village board approval requires three-quarters supermajority, not a simple majority. Additionally, we intend to submit zoning amendment to the future use comprehensive plan designating all current golf course land be zoned back to parks and green space and ask the commission provide sufficient time to do so prior to codifying any build operations plan for 2027. Last, my personal opinion. The applicant's stated commitment to sell this as a 10-hole course is undefined. There's no binding terms, no timeline, and no enforcement. Given how much this project's scope has already grown since 2022 and the odd phrasing of adequate business even after sale, residents, the commission, and the board shouldn't treat an undefined promise as a guarantee. We ask the commission to require independent verification on the financial and design claims and confirmation on notice before any formal application moves forward. Thank you. And do you have any questions for me?

Thank you. Next up is Kermit Traska.

Kermit Traska, 116 West Lincoln Street, Oregon. Thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight. I'm also speaking against the proposed development of the Foxboro golf course. I think it's an opportunity for people to golf at a reasonable price. We have another golf course in Oregon, which the typical person cannot afford. cannot find the cost of playing there on the internet. You have to call and ask. And I'm sure it's 10 or more times the cost of what it would cost at Foxboro. Joining Foxboro costs a single member $900, a couple $1,400, a family $1,400 plus $150 per child with a $1,700 maximum. Other associate memberships are available. I've been a 20 plus year member of the Tuesday Morning Senior Golf League. That now costs us $399 a year for 22 Tuesday mornings. That's $19 a week with a golf cart. Try to find that somewhere. There's also a $40 senior league, which we get to eat at the end of the year in the fine banquet. And if you're a member of the course, they have to pay for the senior league $8 golf cart fee. Who has heard of a 10-hole golf course? Golf courses come in 9, 18, 36. And those arrangements are traditional and should be upheld. I don't live on the golf course, but as expressed already, I know people that do. They bought specifically to be on a golf course, and any development of that would specifically change that. Green space is significant, and we should maintain as much green space in Oregon as we can. Thank you.

Thank you. Donna Matz?

Good evening. Thank you for your time. I'm Donna Matz. I live at 900 Foxboro Drive. And what I'm here, I'm opposing all of this, but I want you to know some of the problems that are at the Foxboro Golf Course that might sway you on this proposal. I have lived on Foxboro Golf Course for 28 years. I have witnessed the upper retention pond overflowing during periods of heavy rain. The overflow cascades down the fairway where the intention is to build structures in phase six. It appears in the drawings that these retention ponds will either be removed or surrounded by buildings. Where will water go? If surrounded by buildings, I am sure you have observed numerous news reports showing disastrous flooding, possibly attributed to climate change. In 2018, there was a thousand year storm in the area. A thousand year storm where nine to 12 inches of rain fell in a 24 hour period. Portions of Dane County received 15 inches of rain. One inch of rain on an acre of land produces 127,000 gallons of runoff water. Considering the 2018 1,000 year storm, which happened more frequently now, 15 inches of rain on one acre of land would produce almost 2 million gallons of runoff water per acre. Where will this water go? Flooding dwellings on TV. Also, the unnamed tributary to Bad Fish Creek would be overwhelmed with other runoff water from other drainage areas preventing any runoff from the golf course being discharged into it. This will increase the flooding at the north end of the course. I have also witnessed the north end of the fairway as being very marshy and unplayable during the spring rainy season. It was partially filled in, Is in this area now suitable for foundations? Is the high moisture content of the soil okay now? Not likely. In conclusion, a hydraulic study must be conducted along with soil testing to determine the feasibility of constructing dwellings on Foxboro Golf Course. I know, I've lived there all these years. When I moved in, I didn't need a sump pump. When this first storm came in 2018, my basement flooded. Now my sump pump runs almost daily because of the houses. The water just keeps coming down the hill and going past. So as a footnote, there are cases in court where city administrators knew of flooding problems, but resumed the area residential. So please think seriously about this and thank you very much.

Thank you. Next would be Rebecca McKee.

I'm Rebecca McKee and I live at 919.

Please come up and state your name.

I just wanted to tell you I live at 919 Foxboro Drive in Oregon. And everything that I wanted to say tonight has already been said. I was a Main Street director of Sturgeon Bay for 10 years. And I'll have you know that one of the most possible things that a community can have is quality of life. And once we lose that, we lose the opportunity for our children. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Next would be Jacqueline Kamen.

Yeah.

Hello. My name is Jacqueline Kamen. I live at 884 Foxtrot Court. I know that I've sat before you guys before. and a lot of my very smart fellow village residents have said many things. I think the only thing that I, from my perspective, left to say anyways is, and I mean no disrespect by this, but to approve the development of Oregon's recreational and green spaces, I feel is irresponsible and neglectful to the roles that you guys were elected to do. So I'm hoping that you're taking all of this feedback into consideration when you're looking at how this will have such a dramatic impact on all of our lives for now and down the road.

Thank you. Next is John Thronson.

Good evening. 830 Miller Drive, John Tronson. The fact that we're considering removing recreational space in Oregon, abomination is one word. Crestfallen is probably something I would say. I'd like to say something. I'm very disappointed. I can't believe that these kids in the village would have to traveled to another village to play golf. And when you consider there's probably 200 members over at Bergmont, there's still 1,000 golfers in Oregon. And to remove this public golf is sad for this, for many reasons. I'm completely against it, and it's horrible. Thanks.

Thank you. We have a few people left. If we could please, the people that come up, try to speak a little bit closer to the microphone so everybody can hear because the voice comes this way. People in the back can't quite hear. So we appreciate that. Thank you.

Next would be Eric Grover.

Good evening. My name is Eric Grover. I reside at 742 Foxfield Drive, Oregon. I moved here in 1970. Lived in this community for a long time. Watched a lot of stuff happen. I watched the flooding take place down by the swimming pool on Park Street, Waterman Street. When they put in the big tiles, I lived in a little 1,200 square foot house and we carried buckets of water out of our basement because of the flooding that took place. If you've been here as long as I have, you know the flooding that has taken place in Oregon. One of the speakers already spoke about this, so I'm not gonna spend a lot of time on it, but it's something that really needs to be looked at heavily. I wanted to take pictures this weekend but instead I was golfing, believe it or not, in Evansville for an outing for kids basketball. And the same outing took place last year in Oregon at Foxboro. And for some reason, 200 people went to Evansville to play golf. That shouldn't happen. And the reason it happened is you have a developer that decided to buy golf course land at golf course price. And now he wants to convert it to development, which is a much higher price. I come from the real estate background of 40 years selling homes in the Oregon community. This is a list of homes that have sold that back up to the Foxboro Golf Course. The one thing that's in common on every one of them, which you told me not to speak about, but it's pretty darn important for us all to recognize, These people all were sold a bill of goods because the village allowed the town of Rutland and the town of Oregon to put in a recreational piece of land, zone it recreational, and build a golf course. The village had the chance in 1986 or whenever it was started to say no because of the location. The village chose not to. the village then turned around and allowed the village to develop all the way around that golf course. And they built a dream for everybody, like myself, that backs up to the golf course. And the only people that have really stood behind this to protect the people that live on the golf course, they're in your audience right now, Chuck Nembeke and Paul Larson. They were stewards and they decided when they gave Eric Peterson that piece of land, They protected it. I'm asking you to protect it. This comprehensive plan that got snuck through three years ago, these people here did not know what that meant. These people here did know what that meant, and that meant that we're going to change this little section here to residential. Why would you change something to residential when it's still in township and it's currently zoned recreational and it has your golf course on it? That shouldn't happen. That should have never happened, that comprehensive change to the plan should have never happened three years ago. And if these people here knew anything about what that really meant, they would have been hurt and they would have stopped it. And I'm just asking you to really look back and say, this is a golf course. This is something our people need. Don't give it up now. We don't need nine holes, 10 holes. We have an 18-hole golf course. See this right here? It says Foxboro. That's where I was today, playing golf, Foxboro. The parking lot is packed when I left. I tried to take pictures so I could share them with you. I appreciate your time. Thank you.

Thank you. Next is Brian McCreevey.

Brian McCreavy, age 69, Lilliana Terrace, which is on the golf course. I've lived there for 26 years, raised our family there. Something here is what happens every time a developer gets a golf course. It happened before in Oregon. It was shut down. It should be shut down again. My understanding is, and I'm a businessman, so I like a good business deal. My understanding is the business deal was to secure the water rights across Foxboro to develop the land, which is now developed, lots are sold, and many houses are on it. The community has made a promise, as was said before, everyone who owns a home on the golf course will still have a view of the golf course. That promise has been reneged on. The community's being lied to. Bergamot's being blamed. Community's being blamed because apparently we don't support a golf course that's been financially stable for, what, 35, 40 years. As far as I'm concerned, this new proposal, which will cross your desk at some point and you'll vote on, has zero credibility. The shell structure of I'll rent the land out and as long as it's financially stable, and yet I'll be the one who will decide what's financially stable makes absolutely no sense. person leasing the land now, what incentives does he have to invest anything in property he doesn't own? It's completely ridiculous, in my opinion. It makes no sense. So when a vote comes to annex, I would ask you to think about what you're really voting on. And if you vote to annex this land, you are supporting this development. There's no gray area. I know that there's other steps along the way, but I want you to stop and think about that. Someone had mentioned Foxville Golf Course. We'll never have another community resource. You will never get another 18-hole public golf course. Many communities would kill for that. It brings people into the community, and the community has come out again, standing room only, I'm getting tired of coming. The community has voiced its opinion. They do not want to lose a valuable community resource. Please don't cannibalize it. I think many of you may have degrees or professionals have the utmost respect for what you do. I couldn't do it. It's not my business. But I do hope that when you make a decision on that proposal, that you take the community into mind, the taxpayers who have built this community, and not the people that may come and reside in the homes that could be built on it. Because those people are watching now as well. And they won't want to come to a community as some people have just purchased homes on a golf course now to only discover they may not be on the golf course. They're not going to come here. They have to have faith in community leadership. So I'd ask you to consider that, consider who you represent. And the message it sends to young families who consider Oregon as a place to come. And I'd be remiss if I didn't say this. Congratulations. I've lived here for 26 years. You and your predecessors have done a brilliant job of building a fantastic community to live in. Our library, our amenities, Our high school, our athletic fields, you've beaten everybody around here. Keep up the good job. Take a long-term perspective on this decision. Oregon will grow whether you annex this property or not. It will. Just keep up the good work. Take a long-term approach. Represent the people who live in the community now. And thanks for your time. I really appreciate it. Thank you.

Thank you. That was the last person that has registered. Is there anybody else that would like to come and speak? Please come forward and give us your name and address, please.

My name is Maggie Kraft, and I live at 190 Elliott Lane. And from my living room window. I watched during the school year the buses going in and out of the junior high school. And I would just say that I'm against this development because I see that you're talking about adding, if you're gonna put up 100 homes, you're up to maybe 200 additional vehicles coming out directly across the street from that junior high school. Thank you.

Thank you. Anybody else?

Hi, I'm Jamison Greenfield. I own 196 Elliott Lane, where my dad actually lives. I was delegated this task. I think everybody did a great job of presenting many of the opinions we all share in this room today. I was just trying to think about... A little bit to round it out. I mean, if you look at the way the course has been maintained, and I talk to people that have been in the community a very long time, they say that it's like almost in a state of disrepair. It's had a lack of investment in it. I've played it. I've seen that it's not in the shape that it could be if there was a little more work done around maintenance. And what I learned, being relatively recent to the area, is that there is a course called Tumble Down Trails not far from here that went through a similar experience. And Tumble Down Trails ended up closing down, but recently we have a really good success story. There's Pioneer Point has opened in the last few years, It's wildly popular. It's a shorter course. The community's very involved in it. If you go to play there, it's quite busy all the time. I feel that the way that this is structured with this kind of step six being tied into the view of whether it's viable or not allows for far too much discretion in the hands of someone that is highly incented to turn it into homes they can arbitrarily say a price that cannot be met and i think that we would just be setting ourselves up by allowing this foot in the door to occur to ultimately get us to a point where we're like tumble down creek and we could have definitely ended up in a pioneer point outcome the only other thing i'd like to add is as i evaluate like the people in the room i think of the incentive structure around all of this and um I know that many of the people that have voiced their views are highly incented for this not to occur. I could see a world where the village would have incentive for it to occur, and we're not supposed to talk about tax revenues and things like that, but I just think that it's important for us to weigh how those in the room will perceive that if they're being supported by the people that they elect on their behalf. So I think it's important for us all to think kind of long term as we evaluate these decisions, and I really appreciate you giving me a chance to speak.

Thank you. You had something?

Hello, my name is Apollo Marks. I live at 102 Clubhouse Drive, so as everybody can see on the map, the lower purple area that is right next to the larger road. My main concern is that you guys have actually, it was mentioned earlier, but that road, as we know, has a hill that is 35 miles per hour. With the addition of all those new homes, as previously stated, there's going to be a lot more families moving here. I know people who would be looking to move into the neighborhood are definitely going to be watching this now. And then we'll also be looking to see, of course, what this decision will bring. Kids that will be walking to OMS, I had the pleasure, that's sarcasm, of trying to determine day by day if that road was safe enough to cross from my home to OMS. My mother told me that it would be safer to go on the underpass of the golf course that was frequently covered in ice. It would be safer to walk down there than across the golf course, than across that smaller road, than it would be to cross the larger road. So I have many concerns, as many of us do here, but definitely my main concern is things like pedestrians and the insane influx of traffic that we would have and all the families that would be moving here with children that would want their children to be safe and not get schmucked by cars. So yeah, that's it. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Anybody else? Yes, please can follow up.

Paul Larson, one of the original developers of Autumn Woods. And everybody here has done a super job of explaining what they think should happen. I'm afraid what's going to happen. But one of the things I'm going to talk about is just the hill itself. That is the golf course. If you look on the other side on Fox Field, one road, I think it is, that goes across. That's a 20-foot hill road embankment. That means that whole hill comes off. No trees, no nothing saved there. And that's what you're going to see is everything's wiped out from there to the north with houses looking just like any other place in the world. It might as well be a cornfield in Kansas. And to me, that's wrong. That's no planning whatsoever. And I think something can be done about it. And I'm afraid about annexation because as soon as it starts, it's done. It'll be a five-year program in my mind if that thing is annexed in and turned into housing. The other thing I'm going to ask a question is, what happens to a supermajority here tonight? There's four of you. There's four missing. How can you vote? Every project in this development has had a catch to it. Either there's letters not mailed out, there's meetings not announced, people aren't, oh, it got lost in the mail. We had a meeting. We didn't announce it, but you should have been there. Way too much of that. And that's in one man's hands. And that's not right. Thank you.

Just wanted to clarify, there will not be any voting tonight. The agenda item is just for discussion only.

Thank you. Hi, Aaron Hoff, 803 Redtail Ridge. I'm basically echoing everything that all these nice people have said so far, fully against this. But I look at it as a different level. I'm newer to Oregon. We've only lived here since 2019. But I have young children. They love to golf. I worry about what all the other young children that I've seen since I've been a member at Foxboro since 2019. Where are they gonna go? Most families in this town, if you look at the medium income, they can't afford that private club up the hill there. It's a little expensive. It's like 9,000, I think, just to get in for the year. They can't handle that. The numbers that they threw out here, once it's gone, it's gone. I really hope you consider the future of this community, because green space is hard to get. We're not Madison, we're a bed community. Let's get some people in this town. And the way this place is managed right now, it's not managed well. And there's, I think, a reason behind that. They want to make money. So let's say no to it and force them to actually make it work. Thank you.

CHRIS RODGERS, JR.: Thank you. Is there anybody else? All right. Seeing that there isn't, I want to put it into the record that we had received a list of people that were opposed to the project and that has been given to.

The gentleman took it back.

Oh, OK. And then. We have a number of people that have written into the village with correspondence in the packet that we have all had a chance to take a look at. And some of these came in after the packet was even sent to us this afternoon. So those will be also put into the packet for public record. So don't be afraid that that's not going to be put in there. Elise, anything else that you want to add to this?

No, when we get to the agenda item, I can add some context.

Thank you, everybody, for keeping it professional. We appreciate that and for being kind on the three-minute limit. So seeing as how we have got that out of the agenda, let's move on. Item 5A, one more time, we still have nothing. So we'll go on to item 6 for new business. Item A, for discussion only, conceptual discussion regarding potential future phases of the Autumn Ridge neighborhood and changes to Foxboro Golf Course. Applicant is Glen Hafer, Ridgeview Development. Mr. Hafer, are you here?

GLEN HAFER JR.: Yeah, right here. I can give a little background, and then Glen, if you want to come up to and do your presentation, your narrative. you can come up, I'll just give a little background here. So obviously this has been a property that we've seen a lot of development and conversations with regarding the Autumn Ridge neighborhood, which now phase 3B is wrapping up construction. A lot of homes already built out there. So Glenn Hofer's here today along with his engineer, Bruce Holler. I'll let them kind of run through the narrative that they've provided and then I can kind of provide a little bit of context as far as next steps. But in general, there would be a number of approvals needed for any version of additional planning. Annexation, obviously, is as key as the remainder of the golf course on the east side of MM. It's still in the town of Rutland and the town of Oregon. The west part of the course obviously is in the village, but a comprehensive plan amendment might be needed if that cul-de-sac would remain in phase 4b. Rezoning, plat, stormwater and engineering development and obviously annexation approval. So a lot of steps to come should this move forward for public input, for negotiation, and a lot of chance for review. So I'll let you guys take it from there. And if you want me to bring your narrative up, or you'd rather have the map up. OK.

Yes, please. All right. Yeah, the narrative as it states. Currently, the golf course is in three different areas, Village of Oregon, Town of Oregon, and Town of Rutland. We're looking at, you know, if this all goes forward, there's a need for lots, like to start them in 2027, phase 4A. I plan to sell the Foxboro Golf Course, the Tennell Golf Course, per that concept plan, at a very fair price, well under the assessed value of the land. Mike Couric, who's working very, very hard trying to keep it open as a successful golf course, and I have a deal for him to purchase it. Our plan is that it will be a successful 10-hole golf course long term. If that's the case, we'll just do phases 4A, 4B, and 5. business is business. I'm sure Mulligan's business plan was to be successful for 30 to 50 years, but it just didn't have enough business support. And I know what Mike has to do. He has costs. No matter what. The golf course business is a six-month business, and that's the window of when he can make money. And he has to water, fertilize, mow, keep the golf course up all the time, regardless of people are playing it or not. But the plan is... to proceed with the concept plan that we showed, if we could bring that up. As a 10-hole golf course, Mike and I worked that out. And by having the cul-de-sac area makes the golf course more affordable to Mike. But basically that that's the plan that I want to pursue and I believe that all can work out Anything Bruce, okay.

All right. Thank you Elise anything else you want to add to this?

No at this point.

I'm happy to answer any questions, okay Members of the Planning Commission. Do we have any questions of the applicant at this time? The only question I've really got is you've had a couple of meetings and you have heard the community speak this evening towards your project. Obviously most of them are directly associated with the golf course itself. Have any of their comments or thoughts swayed or adjusted your proposed plan and layout?

Yes. The neighbors to the cul-de-sac brought up they have concerns about it. And Bruce and I worked out that we have a green space between the future lots and their current home. Basically, it'll provide access for the village to get to the ponds either at the Foxboro golf course or the ponds in phase five and then it gives them a green space buffer between their property and the cul-de-sac Okay

I know that when you had come in for phase three, there was the sort of waterway to get to the detention basin. So that's all part of an agreement that's in place already. There's a lot that's been said. You touched on one item. I think that it's imperative for this project to move forward, that you put a little more gravity into some of the other considerations. That doesn't mean we don't have the right to say we don't have the right to say that you can't move forward with what you want to do. However, um, we can make requests of certain things that have been said and asked for, and I think some of them are valid. Um, so I think that, uh, that's me personally speaking. Um, uh, so that's, that's where I think that we're at right now. I don't, there's not a lot here really to chew on. Um, You know, if we take it at face value, it's a subdivision. There's a bigger, broader issue at stake that I think needs to be sort of the elephant in the room, and it needs to be looked at. So that's my opinion. So anything else, client commission? Nope. Seeing none, I guess then we'll just have to –

Move on, yeah, next steps, just so folks in the audience know, we would have a similar conceptual plan presentation at an upcoming village board meeting, probably one of the meetings in September, just given our schedule for the next one in August here, but it would be a similar type presentation since there's every time there's annexation and a comprehensive plan amendment on the table, we want to make sure the board is caught up to speed. I know some of our board members are here tonight, but also want to make sure that's on the record. Everybody has had a chance to kind of hear what the current thoughts are and obviously hear from um, community members as well. So, um, keep your eyes posted for the village board agendas. It's available on our website and we'll work with, um, Glenn and Bruce, see if there's any updates to the plan or narrative that they'd like to make. And then, um, if they choose to move forward, we can get that on an upcoming village board agenda for another discussion only item.

All right. Thank you. Moving on. Item seven, a status of public and private development projects. All right, and...

Okay, I have a list from Lauren who was unable to attend tonight so I can read that if you want, otherwise... Just happy to answer any questions, but it's relatively short. There's a lot of construction projects going on right now.

Give us a cliff note first.

OK. And a lot of folks streaming out here, but well six is online that is active now. Richardsville lift station ongoing. Wastewater treatment plant is on schedule. The county highway and Alpine intersection here will be temporarily open during the August 11th election. It would be passable, we should say. The detour rounds will still be active. We'll still be recommending people go that way. But given that all of the polling locations are nearby, we wanted to make sure that is passable. Do you want me to wait?

Thank you.

I'm just pausing while folks filter out here. I'm the planning director, Elise Cruz. He's been in contact with making sure he includes all the information the neighbors should know. He's been paying for my time. OK. I will continue here while it's a little quieter. The Alpine and CC intersection, they are under contract, required to have that done by the first day of school. So it looks like things are on track with that. East Lincoln Street utility installation is underway. That will also be passable by the first school day, but will probably extend into early fall. Otherwise, Senior Center, Gary Dish Park, those are ongoing. I'm just seeing if there's anything else that's kind of new. Yeah, everything else is sort of ongoing. We did get the bike and pedestrian study. I think I probably updated you all about that earlier in the spring. But we have MSA Professional Services under contract. They're kind of a jack of all trades planning firm. They are based here in Madison. They've got staff in Milwaukee and elsewhere. But we are under contract now. Thanks, Phil, for your e-signature. So we did pass out some information in the National Night Out about that. And then they will be at the August 25th Sounds of Summer concert. And then we're also working with the school district to try to get some tables set up at the Ready, Set, Go! conferences for some feedback. This has a Safe Routes to School update element to it as well. So we want to make sure we get feedback from parents and students. So hopefully we can get that set up. And then we'll be out at some other Sounds of Summer and other fall events to get feedback. There'll also be some stakeholder interviews and focus groups coming soon. So we might pick on some of you or ask if you have suggestions about people to reach out to. But if you're interested in learning more and being kind of part of that process, let me know because we'll have some more kind of a little working group as well as just our staff time working on that as well. Excited that that is finally underway. It was a contract also with WIDOT. So added a nice state element to all of the review. But we got through, I think. Hopefully that's the hardest part of the whole process.

Awesome. Selfishly, maybe I missed it. When is this road going to be finished?

That's the Alpine CC one. I said first day of school, September 1st.

Good answer. Thank you. All right. Uh, moving on upcoming plan commission meeting dates. You can see that we have one for September 3rd and October 1st. Check your calendars, put it down. Um, no planning staff meeting was held in July. So item eight is items for future meetings. We're just gonna put a pin in that one for now. Uh, item nine is a German. I will. take a motion to adjourn because I don't know the fancy words that Phil uses.

We have a motion.

We have a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All those opposed? Motion carries. Thank you.