Planning and Zoning - Regular Meeting

Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

To the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Amen.

Please. Yes, here. Here. Bielski. Here. Foster. Kerland? Here. Perry.

Here. Thank you.

Jeff Foster is stuck at work.

Can I have a motion to I'll make a motion. I'll second that. Thank you, Kim, for seconding it. Roll for thing. Palmer. Yes. Boyle.

Yes. Bills key. Yes. Vincent.

Yes. Great. Thank you. Okay, next. I need a motion to award the bid for concrete road repair program for 2026 to DRS enterprises in the amount of $144,230 and zero cents. I'll make that motion. Thank you. Brian?

Obviously, our annual concrete road repair program, DRS Enterprises, not one of our usual awards. Familiar with them, they've done a lot of underground work in the past. They do concrete work, obviously. out to a bunch of references they got favorable references from the cities and stuff that they've worked in obviously with a lot of the underground work that they do they have to do these type of repairs to fix the roads where they put in water mains especially is one of their specialties so I do not have any issue with recommending them for award questions

Just a real quick question. I heard from a resident, and I know this isn't part of this specifically, but on Hidden Valley, who was asking about repaving, when does that ever come up? They said they haven't had repaving in a very, very long time.

We did a chip seal back in, yeah, longer than that. It was probably about 2011. Is it due? It's probably due. but we have a lot of other things due too. I mean, it's in the works like everything else. Every year we kind of evaluate the roads that go around and try to pick and choose where we can and how to spread the dollars out.

Take a look at that. I mean, I know you are, but they sent me some pictures. It's been a while. It's been a while.

When we made our infrastructure permanent, our dollars don't go up anymore. So that was the risk that we took when that infrastructure went to a permanent one. As you can imagine, when our first infrastructure went out, we would have been on our third round working on our fourth round. The cost of asphalt paving 30 years ago is a whole lot different than it is now. So literally we're getting one road where we were getting two or three in our past. So, I mean, again, Brian and I evaluate the roads all the time, and it becomes difficult. Not every road can get done. So we chip and seal. We look at, you know, just a mill and fill different options to best spend our money.

Thank you.

Well, then it's more of a Dana question. Is that something that we need to adjust? How permanent is permanent?

Well, you're talking about the levy?

for the department.

When we go through the budgetary process, we analyze how much money we're estimated to bring in, what are the projects, and not only are you taking the dollars in this year and spending it this year, but you're also having to set aside some of those dollars to be used in future when you know you have a big expenditure coming up. So some years they far exceed how much money you're generating that year, so you have to kind of reserve those funds as well. So it's a whole balancing act from the budgetary side. All the maintenance and everything that comes.

Also, all the maintenance items come out of there. So storm sewer repairs, street signs, traffic signal repairs, street sweeping, all that stuff. That's all road maintenance infrastructure. So we normally set, you know, $100,000, $150,000 alone. I mean, you know, $25,000, $30,000 to do road striping, and it gets done every year. You know, that kind of stuff adds up. So it limits our projects when we go to look for them.

So is the limit though a dollar amount or is it a percentage?

Yep, pretty much a dollar amount.

Okay. Any other questions? Anna, will you call the roll, please?

Palmer.

Yes. Boyle. Yes. Bielski. Yes. Vincent. Yes. Perry. Yes, thanks. Next, I need a motion to approve a change order to the 2026 asphalt program to increase the contract amount with Rognac Paving in the amount not to exceed $103,435.00. Thank you. Second. Thank you. Got those? All right. Go ahead, Brian.

Okay, this kind of feeds right into your previous questions. When we were out evaluating the concrete program, obviously Lander Road, the northern portion, still a concrete roadway. We have been doing repairs on that every other year, every third year for the last two, I would say 10 years. it's getting to a point where it's going to need a complete overlay. So by approving this change order, what we're really doing is taking money out of doing full-depth repairs on Lander Road and over on Harvard and doing temporary mill fill style repairs to buy out a few years until we can budget in the overlay of Lander Road. So we're taking an approach to, when we overlay it, we're gonna have to mill off, whether it's concrete or asphalt, so we might as well put the asphalt in, buy out our years to keep it rideable, and then we'll turn around and hopefully two, three years down the line, be able to overlay the entire roadway. is, again, moving these dollars out of what was initially set up for the concrete program, putting it into the asphalt program to get these repairs done.

What do you expect when we do or have to do the total overlay? What are the costs we're looking at then?

Well, you're probably...

We're talking from Harvard to the end of the city or village line, I would assume.

I would have to actually run what numbers we have, but I think Brainerd was $800,000. That's what I remember it. So almost $900,000 to do Brainerd Road.

How long did it take to do Brainerd? I don't remember.

To overlay it?

Yeah.

They were done in weeks.

It's faster than the time.

Yeah, it's a little different scenario, obviously, because the asphalt repairs go much quicker than any fold-up concrete that you would have to do. Adjustment of the basins and stuff. Obviously, Brainerd Road doesn't have swales and side basins, so those types of adjustments aren't needed to be made, which they would on Lander. But again, Lander Road has a lot of good pavement. But as anybody drives, it's like driving Harvard. It's like every joint seems to be four inches wide. Make your car just give that little to dunk as you go over it. So we want to be able to at least preserve the good pavement that we have and buy additional life out of it.

Any other questions?

Yikes.

All right, Anna, will you call the roll?

Get the can down the road.

Yes. Oil.

Yes.

Bilski.

Yes. Vincent. Kerland.

Terry. Yes. Thanks. I'll make a motion to approve the Treasurer's Report from May 26. Thank you, Amanda. Take it away, Dana.

Okay, you received the summary of the month and year to date activity for all of our funds through May. From all the fund sources, May revenues was $1,824,160.63. And the May expenditures from all the funds was $1,355,173.89. We have the line items for the general fund through May. So we're at 42% of the year and the general revenue's total revenue was 46.64% of budget. And our expenditures was 36.7% of our budgeted expenditures. And that's exactly what you wanna see. You wanna see your revenue to be on the higher side and your expenditures to be on the lower side. there were some variances those are primarily having to do with annual maintenance fees that were paid for the whole year and so when we're at five twelfths of the year it's going to skew those numbers and then in operating expenses in the law department as a result of negotiations expenditures that kind of threw that skew off a little bit as well thanks any questions and

And we call the roll.

Hallner. Yes. Boyle. Yes. Bielski. Yes. Vincent. Yes. Kerland. Yes. Perry.

Yes. I'll make a motion to approve the tax administrator's report for May 2026. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Stacy. OK, Dana.

Okay, the tax administrator's report for May 31st is showing May collections from all income sources of $1,276,729.10, which is about $55,000 higher than May of 2025. And year to date, we're higher by about $87,000 over May of last year. um we also received every year we get a retainer refund so every year um well with each month collections rita collects and they retain three percent of those costs towards their operational costs to collect on our behalf and then once a year in may they give us what we call a retainer refund and there's a calculation that they do of the total revenues collected by the um agency for all members and they do a calculation and then refund us so in 2026 we received a retainer refund for orange village of just over 156 000 and in the jed we received just over 17 000. for a total of $173,449, which means that the cost of collections for Orange Village's portion is about 0.92%, so less than 1% is what we're paying the Regional Income Tax Agency to do the collections of our income tax, and it's about 0.71%, so less than 1% for the JET as well. And that's slightly less than it was in 2020, than it was in 2025. Any questions?

Anna, will you call the roll, please?

Allmer? Yes. Boyle? Yes. Bielski? Yes. Benson? Yes. Kerland? Yes. Perry?

Yes.

Thanks.

Okay. Next, we have a discussion on the bills to be paid in the month of July in the amount of $373,251.64 and additional June expenses in the amount of $476,093.17. have any questions okay move on to audience comments if anybody has a audience comment please come to the microphones give us your name and your address and then when you're done with your comment should be limited to one or two minutes you can sign in on the sign-in sheet behind you okay thanks

Can we get three minutes?

It should be agenda items.

Oh.

Oh. Be addressed in the new rules.

An agenda item? Yeah. Okay, great. Yeah, I was gonna speak now on an agenda item and then raise other issues when you get to number 12.

Okay.

okay hi my name is anna gecht i live at 185 jackson drive in orange tree i understand that council is going to be doing a first reading on the ordinance amending the construction hours and i just want to say i greatly appreciate that we have been subjected to a massive amount of loud construction activity in our backyards on Jackson Drive. And it has started at seven in the morning and had continued until nine o'clock until a couple of weeks ago when they reduced the evening hours to seven o'clock. I know that the ordinance, as The amendments suggest reducing the hours from 7 in the morning until 9 on weekdays to 7 in the morning until 6 PM on weekdays. And I would respectfully ask that that morning hour be pushed up from 7 to 8. It is very brutal to wake up every morning at 7 o'clock to the blaring and beeping. of these large pieces of equipment that are literally right on the edge of our property line at the same time you know it's summer my kids came home from school we wanted to eat outside and we couldn't today because the dust was outrageous it smelled disgusting and there were huge trucks in my backyard and so it's finally nice we have a a deck in our backyard, we can't use it. And so I understand there was a discussion about, well, should we push back the morning? Should we push back the evening? What is the best way to accommodate it? It's not an easy decision. I get that. But just from somebody who is living in it, 7 o'clock in the morning is very early, and permitting construction until 7 p.m. really prohibits anybody with children to enjoy dinner outside with their family. So that is my ask. I appreciate your time and your consideration. Thank you.

You only have to sign in once. Okay.

Thank you.

Okay, I'm gonna move, anybody else wanna speak? I'm going to move on to old business ordinance 2026-18, an ordinance providing for the submission to the electors of Orange Village proposed amendments to the Orange Village Charter that have been recommended by the Orange Village Charter Review Commission in declaring emergency. This is on for third reading. We've had some time for discussion amongst us all, and I wonder if anybody has anything that they would like to still talk about.

Would do we want to make a motion for it first?

Let's make a motion to adopt. I'll make a motion. Do you want to second it? Thank you, Stacy. And go ahead with your comments.

There were just three little things that I mentioned to our attorney, and I think he's made those adjustments. everybody was aware in article 3 section 4 the the question of regular meetings versus special meetings is something that we've discussed and I know that the committee was discussing it too and the word regular was left off of the amendment so I just wanted to make sure that we're talking about three consecutive meeting three consecutive regular meetings which would be the second Wednesday of the month and I know what this is still a a point of contention for some whether they're work meetings or special meetings. But I just want to make sure that this is clear for everybody. The second thing is Article 4, Section 2. It's a 70-word sentence. I had to read it 100 times to try and understand it. I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE ELIMINATE THE LAST BECAUSE A MAYOR IS NO LONGER QUALIFIED FOR OFFICE JUST TO SHORTEN IT A LITTLE BIT IT'S ACTUALLY REDUNDANT AND I THINK IT ADDS TO THE CONFUSION EARLIER IN THAT SAME SENTENCE IT SAYS DOESN'T IT SAYS FAILURE TO MEET THE NECESSARY QUALIFICATIONS SO IN MY MIND IT'S THE SAME THING SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT WE ELIMINATE BECAUSE THE MAYOR IS NO LONGER QUALIFIED FOR OFFICE TO MAKE IT MORE EASY TO UNDERSTAND. AND THE LAST THING IS, THERE WAS JUST A WORD MISSING, THE WORD TWO, TO AFTER MAYOR'S AUTHORITY IN ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION FIVE. SO THAT'S BEEN ADDED, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF IT.

Stacey, you're missing that 70-word sentences are the lawyer's strong point. Steve, I think that you and I would agree with that, and Kim, I mean, that's our bread and butter, and I take great offense to your trouble with the sentence.

Do a 70-word sentence, Ed. Thank you.

Can I ask, when you're saying, like, regular meetings, does that include all meetings then, because they're regular, whether they're

No.

Special meetings, we have work sessions, and we have regular council meetings. So actually, Mr. Boyle is working.

Yeah, well, they'll be a little surprised. But no, I'm working on that, and I don't disagree with you. And clarification on that would be helpful. The only thing, and Steve, jump in if I'm saying anything you disagree with. The only thing the charter mandates is that there be a meeting once per month. I think, Steve, it says regular, correct? Or a meeting, I think it just says. So meet once per month. what that looks like is really up to to this body and the mayor quite frankly in terms of what that looks like when it happens what time it starts at and what it's called but we do have to have one meeting per month I think that's fair and we can craft that throughout this clarification is just to go with what we have currently and just make sure it's consistent with what the committee came up with so that's why we I suggested adding the word regular

so steve changed the first uh the first and the third but not the second taking out the mayor i would suggest eliminating the words because the mayor is no longer qualified for office the uh three additional words is insignificant we don't set the ballot language the ballot we make a proposal the board of elections then

takes a shot at it based on our recommendation, then sends it to the Secretary of State's office, which is the final answer that will go on the ballot. I made the changes that you've recommended. They're not significant such that we need to show it as an amendment.

Basically, you're saying a bunch of other lawyers have to look at it.

Yeah, and... Add some words to it.

It ended up a little longer than 70 words by the end of it.

I'm trying to make it less confusing for our residents and voters.

Madam President, may I just, if I may ask, I'm sorry, if I may ask a question?

Yeah, of course.

Can you, I wasn't sure if we were in the middle. Can you outline, Steve, just what, so what happens next? So if this is passed and the mayor signs it, does this go to the BOE? Yes. So it'll go to the BOE and then they, how does, just if you could walk through the timeline. They will put, they will send,

the ordinance to the Secretary of State with their recommended language for the ballot language. Secretary of State gives the final answer of what it will be, and then we will be sending out

Actually, what we do is there are two options to notify the public.

One is to buy an advertisement in the newspaper. That's the most efficient way of doing it. The other way is to actually mail proposed changes to people.

What we've done— Does a village pay for that?

What we have done in the past is digitally send them the information, but under state law, in addition to the actual digital information that you transmit, you have to either buy advertisement or mail it out, and in the past we've been putting it in the newspaper.

to comply with state law.

And then there will be usually mailings from the village as to what do these ballot language say, what would be the effect of the proposed changes that were all, I mean, they may not have been 100%, may not be unanimous from the Charter Review Commission, but there was a good consensus on everything. Many of them were unanimous, so.

Great. questions.

The questions on that number two, can we eliminate that back those backwards or it doesn't matter because they're going to change it anyway. It just I think it just adds to the confusion.

I would leave those in there. Okay.

And we call the roll.

Ulner. Boyle. Yes. Bilski. Yes. Vincent. Yes. Kurland. Yes. Perry.

Yes. Thank you. Next, in new business, ordinance 2026-20, an ordinance providing compensation for village employees, repealing certain ordinances, and declaring an emergency.

Motion to suspend.

There's a typo there.

Oh, I do see that.

I need a motion to suspend the rules. Thank you, Stacy. Second. Thank you, Amanda. Anna, will you call the roll for suspension?

Ulmer.

Yes. Boyle. Yes.

Bielski. Yes. Vincent. Yes. Kurland. Yes.

Perry. Yes, thanks. I'll make a motion to adopt 2026-20. Is there a second? Second. Great. Who wants to speak to this? The chief or, oh, Dana, go ahead.

The compensation ordinance typically is amended at least every three years after the union negotiations are completed. And as a result of the union negotiations, the salary minimum and maximum ranges are looked at and increased as a result of a three-year increase in pay. So the adjustments are made for those items as well as positions that, for instance, the finance clerk's position was eliminated when we added the last time and it was thought that we should have both positions available so when you're hiring staff, we have options. In addition, in the union negotiations, there was some items that were provided, for example, the health insurance, is has been changed to be a 12 of the cost as opposed to a fixed dollar amount so that has been incorporated in this for non-union employees um longevity was changed in the union so that was also changed in the non-union and then there was just some miscellaneous ballot language um or i'm sorry um wording lane languages that was changed in here as well. So you have the red line version of that as well as the cleaned up version for those changes.

Dana, any questions?

I was just going to say just for clarification for why we were suspending it is that we've been working really hard in the finance department to set up the retro pays for the employees and we have to do our pension requires it to be done monthly or pay by pay. So we've been tracking this. So the sooner we can get these things done, the sooner we can stop doing the extra work of calculating because we have to refile all the reports. for every month that has already been filed for these changes. So we appreciate the suspension.

Thank you. OK. Anna, will you call the roll? Aulner? Yes. Boyle? Yes. Bielski? Yes. Vincent? Yes. Kerland? Yes. Perry?

Yes. Thanks. Next is Ordinance 2026-21, an ordinance amending the annual appropriations for current expenses and other expenditures of Orange Village during the calendar year ending December 31, 2026. i will make a motion to suspend the rules on this one is there a second thank you stacy for suspension ulner yes boyle billski yes vincent yes kurland yes harry yes thank you next i'll make a motion to adopt 2026-21 is there a second second thank you amanda um So go ahead, Dana.

So as you all know, when we did the budget last year for 2026, it did not include the rate increases because at that time they were not known. So now that the union negotiations are done and this other ordinance, I have gone through and done budget amendments and most of the changes are a result of the pay increases or the resulting benefits. So I have indicated that on here. So I was just going to explain the ones that were not the payroll increases. So in the police other, we increased that $68,000 to record the mayor's court revenue collected. So in the mayor's court, we collect revenue and then part of it comes back to us and it was being shown net. So we're now going to show it gross on the revenue side and collect all the money and then show it gross on the expenditure side. So in order to do that, we had to increase the $68,000. and reported on the expense as we're receiving the revenue to us and then expending it to us. Okay. Then on the law department, we're increasing other $47,000 due to increased costs for the negotiation employment issues. So as you know, the negotiation lasted longer than we had anticipated. So there was additional legal costs. And then we also had some employment issues that we have been incurring. So we've increased that budget to cover the rest of the year. The administration other was increased $16,000 and that's due to donations that were received that were not anticipated when we originally did the budget that will go towards special events or some of the committees. The police pension fund, that was part of the payroll increases. And then the capital improvement fund was increased 190,000 due to the purchase of the fire station property and closing costs. Because when I was going through doing all of that, I realized that that was not in the original budget. And that item had been approved by council, but it had not been in a budget amendment. I made that correction.

Is that all? Okay. Thank you. Anybody have questions for Dana? OK. Anna, will you call the roll?

All in the room? Yes. Doyle? Yes. Bielski? Yes.

Benson?

Yes.

Kerland? Yes. Perry? Yes. Thanks. All right. Next on the agenda is Ordinance 2026-22, an Ordinance Amending Section 5. And it has an emergency clause, does it not?

Make a motion to me to add an emergency clause to it. It's been drafted and it's ready to Motion to Emergency clause

So doing suspension or just that was I was going to wait till the vote was done, but that I was hoping that and I'd right first.

OK, fair enough. Is there a motionary? Yes. Thank you. Next, I have a motion to adopt the spend to suspend the rules. Thank you. That motion to suspend. OK, can you call the roll for suspension, please? Yeah.

Ulner Boyle? Yes. Ilski? Vincent?

Yes.

Erland? Sorry. Great. Thank you. Yes. So next, I'll make a motion to adopt 2026 dash 22. I'll second that. You can

I just really very much appreciate Council taking my suggestion that we needed to amend this ordinance and everybody working to come up with hours that everybody can live with and also everybody's willingness to make it an emergency and suspension of the rules tonight. I do think that this will be very much appreciated by our residents.

THE AMENDED HOURS, BUT BASED ON WHAT I HEARD FROM RESIDENTS AT A VERY LENGTHY MEETING ON MONDAY, AND YES, JUST TALKING TO RESIDENTS YESTERDAY AND WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THIS AND RENEW MY ORIGINAL REQUEST TO PUSH THE STARTING TIME TO 8 AM INSTEAD OF 7 AM. I believe that 10 hours is a sufficient window to be able to get the work done. Noise pollution, by its definition, is unwanted, disturbing, or excessive sound that disrupts normal activities. For those who work from home, spend their mornings at home, or even are just trying to get their kids out the door, the last thing they need is this kind of disruption to start their days and then have to go through their days. We are a community for all generations. That includes retirees who want quiet in the mornings and families with toddlers or, dare I say, teenagers or those in their 20s that are home during the summer when most of the construction is going on, who just aren't up at the crack of dawn. I'd like to assuage our residents who are forced to face these kinds of construction noises by mitigating the problem on the front end, thinking about what if this was your backyard? And I would like to amend to make it 8 a.m. instead.

We discussed this last week. I'm very happy to do that and I had wanted that to be the original hours. My understanding from last week's discussion was we didn't have the votes for that. I will tell you if we can amend it, I would vote for 8 AM. I'm happy to have that discussion, but.

right as we go through our discussion uh please weigh in as council people ryan you want to go next yeah i yeah i don't have a good enough understanding or feel for what workers who do work in the village we've had work done in our house before i don't know how early people really like to get started i just don't even know if i have enough knowledge to about what is standard and maybe you guys can opine on this say when people come to do work whether it's road work or whatever, maybe, you know, the planning and zoning folks, maybe when construction companies or developers come in, I don't know what time do people commonly really get going.

I will say this. The mayor's concern was that the construction workers need those hours to work. My thought was there's nothing preventing them from coming to the work site, clocking in, sort of getting ready. But when you actually start the noisy part, I mean, our ordinance does not prohibit that and nor should it. But when you start the noisy part with the machinery,

i mean it takes them a little bit to get ready to operate the machinery anyway so leave the flexibility for a grant of a change of hours or there is that flexibility that the mayor can grant for an emergency or you know and does that make us a difficult place to do business uh from the standpoint of

First of all, I don't think so. I've really worked hard in the two and a half years that I've been on council to be a good place to support things that make us a good place to do business, including my role in planning and zoning. I think that contractors are going to abide by whatever the rules are that we set. Last week I was willing and supported the 8 a.m. I mean, that was what I, I really wanted it to be like 8 to 5, but, you know, but that wasn't, and that's fine. I understand. I mean, that's what this is, is, you know, a give and take.

Yeah.

I'd like to hear, like, from Bob Zugan, like, wouldn't workers for the village start working? Or somebody who wants to speak to big projects.

Anybody. People there? Yeah.

all our contractors are ready to go at 7 a.m all our road projects our concrete guys and stuff they get in they mobilize um you know get going so certainly some things are louder than others um sometimes they actually push to four tens i think if we limit it to eight to five obviously the four tens are out um i think in the long run when um We'll see increase in our bids when we change the hours.

I'm sorry, this ordinance does not affect work for the village at all. This only affects contractors working on homes. This doesn't affect our bids. It does not affect road work or anything that you will be bidding out to anybody. This is only contractors working on construction in people's homes.

It could affect road projects and

that's not what we've discussed last week and that's exactly what the law director stated with said it does not is my recollection of our of the meeting last week incorrect i don't recall addressing that specific issue yeah you actually did uh we can pull up a transcript but you you did i don't remember saying those words i'm looking at this and it's it's talking about no subcontractor contractor subcontractor

outdoor construction work within the village, when the work is audible from a neighboring property, I think that we would have the authority to deviate from the standard if we wanted to exempt village projects.

But as written, this doesn't do that. What do our current bid specs require?

We basically follow our noise ordinance, seven to nine. We have, because when we do, like last year when you were paving Brainerd Road, that's a long paving day. That's something, certain aspects of construction, road construction here, You can't just stop at 5 o'clock. If you have asphalt delay, you have to keep going. You don't just cut it off and walk away and say, tomorrow we'll start here. There are certain aspects, if you change the hours of ordinance, where we would have to grant some kind of variance to those types of things.

A specifically states the mayor may grant a temporary permit for special, unusual, or emergency conditions for construction work to occur during their prohibited times.

Do you want to add to that? My only response to that would be we're going to run to the mayor every time a contractor, if a contractor was out tomorrow, we're going to call the mayor out of the country to ask if they can pay until

You're not going to call him out of the country because even if he's out of the country, there is somebody in the mayor.

I understand, but I mean, again.

If you want to say something like, you know, this exempts, you know, exempting construction performed for the village, you know, contracts for the village, I'm fine with that. This is aimed specifically in what our discussion was aimed at was developments. Yeah, in the neighborhoods, not road work.

suggestion just you said the four ten hour days this won't change that it would just move it back an hour so it's it'd be eight to six is still a ten hour day

I'm more in your camp. Maybe we would just clarify that it's maybe more impactful or more. If people are doing road work in Orangewood, I mean, I got to let them go do the road work, I feel like, but I can't. So anything that the village kind of contracts out, that's different than, you know, having workers come, you know, private, privately and, you know, on a home by home basis or project by project.

about the benefit for the village of it and all residents as a whole when we're working on road projects that benefits all of us I mean so I think we're more a little more understanding than when it's construction of a home that isn't only affects you by the noise and only affects you by behind you or you know whatever is good thank you Jim what what are your I kind of my concerns are this is that

We had a discussion on the floor. The legislation that's in front of us currently that we're set to vote on is the outcome of those conversations. that we are prepared to vote on. And we have to make a decision. I mean, we can debate this till the cows come home. And I'm troubled by, not troubled, but I struggle, and I defer to the law director on this, obviously. That's what's in front of us, and that's what we're prepared to vote on. And now we're amending it, and I don't know, I mean, do we have to, I don't know, Steve, I know in some of the cities that I work in, we don't allow them to amend it, then vote on it immediately. That it's still, because it's gotta be, disseminated and all the other stuff and I don't know enough about it to say that but my recommendation is if we're gonna mend it that I wouldn't vote on I would recommend we not vote on it so that at least people can come and talk about it the numbers that were in front of us that we that I thought we were gonna

conglomeration of the comments and the hours that this body and Jeff isn't here.

I feel difficult that Jeff voted in on this thing and now he's going to come back and now it's not. I do understand before the reality of the situation is that regardless of what the amounts are, the project is going to take X amount of hours to complete. And if it takes X amount of hours to complete it and you shorten the workday by 10%, that means the project's gonna be 10% longer day-wise. And so people have to balance the concept of, well, would I rather get the project done quicker So it's out of the way, or do I want to deal with this right now? And there are always going to be temporary aspects of it, and that's kind of the eternal question. But as it relates to what's in front of us, I struggle with the concept of amending it and voting on it. I don't know that that meets. Does that meet? I don't know the rule against it.

I understand what you're saying.

Notice is what I'm talking about.

There's prudence value to that, but we don't have that rule, and we have on many occasions done an amendment to an ordinance and passed it the same evening.

little different because this was on for first reading tonight we haven't yes we talked about it but it was the first time it was brought up last week so I think you know on a first reading it it's okay to propose something that other people may agree with especially after we've had this past week to discuss it because we just heard about it for the first time last week and we're discussing it so but my concern Stacey oh I'm sorry go ahead I apologize me let's let everybody have a turn okay my thought is

7 a.m. has always been an industry standard. I think it will be a burden to take that to 8 p.m. And I think it hurts the families who want to have dinner outside or play in their backyards to make it longer into the evening. So and I also heard from people in the meeting the other night. Also, they don't want the project extended by however many days or weeks it would take to make up those hours. So I am still in favor of 7 a.m. That's what we asked Steve to write up for us tonight. We are expediting this, especially fast. So it is worthy of the discussion. But if I'm voting on the amendment change, I'm still going to vote for 7 a.m.

to clarify, because you said on the back end eight o'clock, I'm not suggesting we move it to eight o'clock on the back end even more. No, it would be the same. We're saying eight to six, which is 10 hours. I mean, that's the 10 hours that was brought up before.

Why don't we hear from Amanda?

Amanda? We discussed the hours that we had, as Jim was saying, he disappeared, you know, we had gone through this, had this whole conversation last week, I felt like still of the feeling that I don't want anyone I don't want anyone's lives disturbed at all honestly but it seems to make sense to get it done faster rip that band-aid off than to sit there longer and longer and longer so it seemed like a good concession what we had that it'll be done by 6 so that they can have dinner at that time so if we go through and today and suspend the rules and declare an emergency, then we can have this immediately where they're going to have some relief. If there's all this conversation and we want to change it, it sounds like it might make sense that we have to think about it more, and then that takes a whole other month almost or three weeks that you're waiting for this to go into effect. It seems like it might be prudent with what we had already discussed, what Jeff Foster was part of and had some input in.

And so here's how it would work tonight. We have a motion to amend the hours to 8 a.m. looks like three people are gonna vote for the amendment and three people are going to probably vote against it but we should go through them the task of voting if that were to happen though the amendment wouldn't pass and then our next step would be to vote on the ordinance written okay so Anna can you call this is on the change on the amendment correct

IT STARTED 8 AM INSTEAD.

YES. BOYLE. NO. BILSKI.

NO.

VINCENT.

YES.

EARLAND. NO.

no okay the amendment to um push that hour back did not pass so next i'll make a motion to adopt 2026 sessions already been made but my i just want to add this to the discussion which is it we're getting it in it's a significant improvement it's going to be taking effect immediately but If it's still a problem, there's nothing that prevents council from changing the ordinance again in the future. I mean, we could change the ordinance in a month. Right. This is not right. And I will say this. This does bring up a discussion that a couple of us had offline, which is, and I guess it's been a long time since I've taken a civics class. My understanding of the way Congress works, and I by no means mean to suggest that we're Congress, is that you know a member can you know they're making legislation and they're presenting it right for me to get this to happen I had to call our council president who I appreciate you putting it on the schedule to discuss and then we discussed it and then a week later we get our legislation to vote on I don't understand and I do raise the question which mr. Boyle raised as well which is are I ought to be able to direct the law director to draft legislation that I then bring to council. So this would have happened last week to have discussion. And at that time, people can say, yay, nay, make amendments, whatever. But it seems to me that that is the way things should happen. I just want to put that out there.

separately I just wanted to put that out there okay so let's call the roll for just make a brief comment I and I and I and I get that there's never gonna be well I shouldn't say never but and and I think council person, Ulmer really should be given a lot of credit for taking a lead on this issue, not necessarily just as a neighbor or resident of a community impacted, but more importantly as a representative who listens to the residents and tries to bring forth changes that will assist the residents, because that's really what we're supposed to do.

And I think that that's an important piece of this.

The second piece that Ms. Ulner mentioned, I think, is also vitally important, and it goes into the comment of don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. We're moving in a positive direction, and that absolutely matters.

We have to balance. Contracts have a right to do business.

They do, and I don't know whether the costs are going to go up, but I, and I think I speak for all of my colleagues, I'm much more concerned about the residents than I am about the contractors.

They'll figure it out when they figure it out.

But we do owe it to them so that they have an understanding of what the playing field is. And if we change it an hour on the short side or morph it on the edges, that will have an impact on the timing. And this is the big construction time. I'm very appreciative of what the neighbors and what this council and the law director, and most importantly, what Ms. Ulner has done, because I do think it's an important piece of what we do. So thank you.

I'm going to talk to you. I agree with both of you. I'm glad this is immediate progress and an immediate change. We want to make sure. THIS IS HELPFUL TO THE RESIDENTS TO SOME DEGREE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT ALSO KEEPS, I NEED TO LEARN MORE CERTAINLY ABOUT WHAT MAKES ORANGE VILLAGE STILL A HELPFUL OR AN EASY PLACE TO DO BUSINESS. SO DON'T WANT TO BE IMPACTED, I DON'T WANT RESIDENTS TO BE IMPACTED BY COSTS, HIGHER COSTS OR THE VILLAGE TO BE IMPACTED BY HIGHER COSTS PERHAPS OF THE TIME LIMIT MIGHT IMPOSE ON CONTRACTORS OR ANYONE DOING WORK HERE TOO. I want everybody to be happy, but it's nice to also know this is not final. This is not forever. It can be changed down the road if we learn there's a reason to do so.

Thank you.

Anna, we have one more really quick question on this before we vote. It lists the holidays. It does not include Juneteenth, which has been determined as a holiday.

We're going to use it as it's written, and we can amend that another time if we want to add holidays or something.

already has holidays it's just that that one isn't listed and that that is one that this isn't every federal holiday every federal holiday and again my my suggestion is is that we get this on the books and get it moving and i just wanted to make that clarification i'm going to ask anna to call the role ulner yes boy yes billski vincent yes kurland yes harry yes thank you okay now we can move on to audience comments

village so for the good of the village anna you can go back up there that email string and i'm like what is happening here i'll fill you in is there a time limit three minutes i thought whoever lisa says it's i think she's been my watch is broken

I have this sign if you get along but try to it's been consistent thank you first of all thank you for considering and passing the amendment it will have a really positive impact on appreciate it truly There are two other things I wanted to address. Both are related somewhat to the construction and the Pulte Canyons project in general. So the first issue is the homes that back up, the homes on Jackson Drive that back up.

Anna, can you please speak in?

Sorry. The homes on Jackson Drive that back up to phase three of the Pulte construction project. The plans that have been approved, well, the plans that are under consideration propose a three to four foot mound in between the property and- It's a 10 foot mound, no? It's not, it's a three to four foot mound. It's a three to four foot mound with trees to be planted on top that can take up to 20 years to mature. I'm certain. If it's a 10 foot mound, I'll sit down. Our request is something closer to a 10 foot mound to provide more privacy as a sound barrier, and to have more uniformity. Our request is also that the mound and the landscaping be installed, if possible, this fall. The clearing of phase three, the area right behind our homes, we were told that that would not occur until 2028, maybe 2029. And it has happened this June of 2026. We are now looking at just a construction site. It is massive, it is dirty, it is loud. And so again, I appreciate that the hours have now been reduced, but we still need some screening and something to block the site of just a massive construction site. The other comments, so I would like council to consider that. And I have had conversations with members on council about this. And in fact, Stacy has been helpful in putting me in connecting with Brian to try to consider maybe alternatives. I know that Keith Filipowski from Pulte has said that he is willing to work with Brian to consider and see if there are other options a bigger size of amount or other alternatives, but it needs to work with the engineering. And that is not my expertise, but I would hope that maybe Brian can be involved in so that he has an understanding of what the residents are hoping to see.

I believe the mayor has requested the same of that.

I'm on planning and zoning. Unfortunately, I was not able to go to the meeting last night, but my understanding is it's been represented more than one time to planning and zoning that the trees will be planted this fall. And to to plant the trees, you have to have the mountain first. So

To plant the trees, you have to have the mound in first.

The trees are being planted this fall is what I have been told on planning and zoning. So and I have made sure that that we are on top of that from a planning and zoning position. OK, thank you.

I do have one more comment and it's just with the Pulte project in general. And I will say that there are many aspects of the project and what the residents voted on that feel like a bait and switch. I will say the fact that there are town homes where under 55 can live, where there are town homes that are three stories The fact that the parkland was reduced from 37 acres to 35, and I appreciate that we need a new fire station, I'm not denying that, but the residents voted on an ordinance that said there was gonna be 37 acres of parkland, and now it's reduced to 35. The plans that I've seen that are on the website show only five parking spots for residents. I just have one more comment, I'm sorry. And people were speaking while I was speaking. So if I can just have one more minute. Only five parking spots are gonna be for public use at this park. And I went on the Orange website today and i looked at what was advertised to the residents before we voted on this ordinance and i looked at the living well collection marketing that was done in coordination with orange and it specifically said that there were going to be a bike path in this park and now there's no bike path it's a passive park with just dirt trails and so it feels like many aspects of this project are bait and switch and that The voters voted on one thing and something else is happening. So it's frustrating.

Thank you, Anna, for your comments. Anybody else would like to make comments tonight?

Yes, sir.

Give us your name and address and try to keep it to a few minutes.

You can do it after. You can talk first, yeah.

Hello, I'm Pete Fuller and I live at 195 Jackson Drive. Can you hear me okay?

Yes, thank you.

I've lived in Orange for 37 years now, and this is the first time I've been to a council meeting. So I want to thank all of you for your service. I know it's a lot of work. Unfortunately, in my time, I was raising a family and had a full-time job, so I could not serve. So thank you very much for what you're doing. I also want to reiterate what Anna said, because I also felt like when I voted here in this room, there was a poster board on the wall over there with what the development looked like. And unfortunately, I'm learning that a lot of that has changed. And I don't have the facts in front of me and all the details, but it does very much feel like a bait and switch in some of these areas. I also know that it's not all just Pulte, though. It's also another company, Omni, I think it's Pat Finley's company, Battaglia's Homes, and there's nothing in works or there's nothing officially finalized on what they're gonna do with the 130 some units that they're supposed to be for senior living. The other thing I'd like to mention is the traffic study. There was one done when Pinecrest was put in. My understanding is that there was supposed to be another one done during the COVID time and it was not performed. and I'm not sure when the last traffic study has been performed. So I'd like to know what the plans are for that because I don't know if many of you are taking Harvard Road around rush hour time and try to get off on 271 exit or to turn into Pinecrest. Now we're adding a development canyon opposite side of the street with at least 117 Pulte buildings. and 130-some-whatever buildings plus commercial buildings that are going to drop onto Harvard Road. And now we're talking about a fire station that's at the corner of Harvard and Brainerd that's going to have the exits off onto Brainerd at about 50 or 100 feet from the streetlight there. So how is that going to work? I know I only have two minutes, but I've been here 37 years, so I hope you understand. I'm frustrated, but I do, again, I want to thank you all for working so hard because I didn't want to volunteer. I'm sure a lot of people do not because they're busy and whatever. So I appreciate your time and commitment to serving on council and fire and police.

Thank you for your comments and for your... Thank you, Lisa. Thanks. I appreciate that, Mr. Fuller. Great. Is there anybody else who would like to speak?

Hi, my name's Gittel Blum, I'm at 245 Orangetree, and I don't wanna repeat what Peter was saying, but really my concern in addition to, is really the increased traffic that we're seeing on, really on Harvard, Harvard and Brainerd, right now with just Pinecrest on itself, said I got off today and you cannot turn right pinecrest has already backed up that traffic so badly that traffic is at a standstill because they are blocking people are trying to turn into the turning lane blocking the right turning lane so now we're adding I guess the Pulte homes and then we're adding the fire station just down the street to the intersection. Nothing is addressing, I guess, the traffic. My concern also, if we're putting in, I guess there's five public parking spots at the fire station at that intersection. I'm not sure, it's only five spots for, for people to use, where are people gonna park if they want to use that park area that was promised to us? I understand we're in walking distance, but in reality, most people, if they're gonna wanna use it, they're gonna wanna drive and there's nowhere to park. So now you're increasing additional traffic to that area. In addition to the traffic has been the noise. And I'm not talking about the construction noise, it's the highway noise. So when we moved here, it was, a light hum, we moved here about eight years ago, and with the entire tree canopy being removed, it is now extremely loud. Forget the construction noise, it's 7 a.m., I'm hearing motorcycles revving and trucks going at all hours, and I'm not a light sleeper. And I know, trust me, I have contacted ODOT, there's nothing a wall will do. to know what I guess potty or as they're building the construction what they're doing to replace all those very mature trees that they destroyed that were created a sound barrier for the residents so now it's kind of destroyed like the pleasantness of what we really enjoyed in orange so thank you for your comments sign in anybody else to speak tonight

we're gonna move on to to what no no I appreciate that move on to the mayor's comments he's out of town so I I I just want to remind everybody that the Aloha Run 5K one and a half mile fun walk is the morning of our Orange Village Party in the Park. It'll be at 9 a.m. Please register on our website. It's going to be a fun thing, right, Ryan? be great bring your kids be there also at the party there'll be rocket ship car rides and culminating with a fabulous drone show so it's it's quite a fun evening all right that concludes the mayor's comments now my comments are um i i just want to thank you all for coming here and saying what you said and i want to answer your questions in our meeting it's not always the most appropriate place to answer your questions so I'm going to ask you to talk to these gentlemen see if they have answers for you about time or who controls you know the hill timing and things like that after the meeting and you should be able to get answers from from our department heads also just kind of switching gears i have been getting incredibly positive feedback about the dog forest i was there this weekend and somebody came up and from shaker they came all the way from shaker heights to use it and they were blown away by how nice it is so thank you again to the building department for making that happen this year that was great that concludes my comments so let's move on to let's

you first tonight thank you um i just um it's very bittersweet for me too it's very sad um i am announcing that i will be moving um i do not have a specific date yet um but and i will let council know know when my last day will be for council when I sell my home and have a move date. I'm very proud of the work that I've tried to do to make Orange an even better place to live, and I really have tried very hard to represent what I think are the best interests of our residents. To that end, I'm very proud of the programs that I have introduced and brought to us, including the Blue Envelope Program, the First Call Program, the Women's Self-Defense, the CPR and Stop the Bleed. I've served on planning and zoning for about a year and a half and tried very hard to be both friendly to businesses but more importantly friendly to residents and allowing residents to use their property the way they want to and really worked hard to make sure that that they could do that and of course tonight's noise ordinance which I do believe will be very helpful for the residents of our community So, in the future, I do hope that some things that haven't happened. I hope that Orange is able to get a rec center for our kids, teens, and seniors. I do believe that that would be very beneficial. It seems to have been a dead end. I've raised it a few times. I truly hope that some other council members will really pick up that. I just think it's very important. And while being outside in our parks and we do have wonderful park facilities is very important. We do live in Northeast Ohio where there's a good amount of time where people cannot be outside as much. And I think our teens especially, but including our seniors and our kids could really benefit from a rec center. So I hope that that's something that my fellow council members will consider and carry through and make happen. I also hope that the voters will vote for the new fire station and renovations to the current building. Our fire department members and our police member employees really do need more space and more space that serves them to help them serve us. I think that's extremely important. I've been very vocal about transparency from Orange Village government to our residents. I hope that that improves and continues. I'm sure that there will be meetings and opportunities for residents to weigh in on things like parking spots at the fire station. get it we all want to be able to go enjoy the facilities I have every reason to believe that that's something that can get changed parking spot seems to me to be a easy one to change with respect to the traffic study I agree that needs to be done I think there are many of us on council who agree that it needs to be done and we're pushing to have it happen so we have heard you and we we know that that's an issue and we are working to have that happen I Whether the plans change or morph a little bit, they may, but our fire department really needs new space, and our police force, this space is just too small and doesn't serve all of the needs that we have. So in whatever iteration the new building happens and the renovations of this building happen, I hope that the voters will consider supporting it. And I want to thank everybody for the opportunity to serve in Orange. I've really learned a lot and I've really it's been a pleasure to try to help make our community even better. I think we live in a great area, and, you know, I'm sure that Orange will continue to thrive. So thank you for that opportunity, and that's all I have. I don't have a date yet, but.

And when you get a date, we'll let you know for sure. And we will advertise for a vacancy and appoint somebody in your seat. We will miss you. Thank you. Thank you.

You know, I'm not happy to hear any of that.

And I'm going to say something terrible, and I hope your house doesn't sell. And you're stuck here.

Oh, that's terrible.

No, seriously, I welcome your attitude, your attention to detail, the... you know, spirited conversations. And I know that it's not necessarily a today or tomorrow, and I know we'll have other opportunities, but it comes as a surprise and not a pleasant one. And I'm happy to have served for whatever period of time it is with you, next to you. And, you know, with all seriousness, I, you know, we could, that house could wait till like spring or something, maybe. Wow. But in any event. So I did want two very brief things. One, I had a nice conversation with the police chief this week. And I know that it's been a conversation that has been fomenting in all of our minds. And I know that the chief has mentioned that he's working with the mayor and the law director. And I'm very happy to hear that about what we as a community have to do with these e-bikes. Pepper Pike, where I think a kid was taken to the hospital, and I'm...

Your mic a little closer.

I'm sorry. Rarely do I get the, Boyle needs to be louder. But I know that they're working diligently on it, and I know that it's something that the law director, I know, has gathered stuff from other communities, and it's going to be very helpful, and I know that the body will have spirited conversations about that, because I think we have to have that conversation, and it may not be an easy one, but it has to happen. And the final thing is that the comments today from the podium had an eerie semblance to what some of us went through with the rezoning down the street here. And my comments to those listening are that your voice does matter. Your vigilance matters. Your diligence in being here and talking matters. And I would hope that regardless of where this project goes, that that um attention to what your community is doing remains um i don't sit here i sit here now because of that attention and the involvement that i've had with some of my friends neighbors and colleagues on those issues and so i welcome those comments and i'm glad to see that you're here um because the things that make orange village what it is People have differing opinions of it but the reasons we live here and anybody who looks at the you know and I just pulled it out the other day the the Planning the County Planning Commission did studies, you know about what we valued in Orange Village and consistency consistently the number one was the sense of place and that included green space and things like that and you know not to get you know all hippie days you know they paved paradise and and put up a parking lot but you know there has to be common sense in what we're doing and there does not need to be a house or development or project on everyone's on everyone's property on every piece but we do have to balance that with the peep the property owner's ability to develop it as a seat fit so i understand your concerns i value your concerns and i advise you to remain vigilant to what your community is doing because it does matter thanks i just want to thank you all for coming tonight it's helpful to hear from you directly don't always know exactly what's going on in every you know corner of the village so

It's helpful to hear from you. And I feel your frustration. I'm sorry for you because I can only imagine with my young family, if I lived where you guys live and I was going through what you're going through, I'd be incredibly frustrated and upset. But you brought up some great points tonight and educated me on things that I didn't even know were issues. So thank you for sharing all of that. And hopefully we have some more information to share in the coming days and weeks here. Something that's satisfactory. So thank you again for being here.

Amanda?

I want to echo everyone saying that I really appreciate you guys coming here and speaking to us. We love to see people come in the audience and be interactive and be part of what's going on here. It does help give perspective a lot of times on things, but it also helps you have perspective on what's going on and what the processes are.

Yeah. I don't want to

Nobody thinks that I ever belittle what you're going through, specifically the people who live on Jackson with the construction in their backyard. I 100% understand where you would be upset, and I think the biggest problem was the communication that you believed it was going to be in a couple years. dropped on you like a bomb I get it I get where you're upset and I guess we can just do our best to try to mitigate a little bit better and hope that it gets done quickly and in a manner that's not any more disruptive than it already is but again thank you guys for coming I really appreciate that thank Kim for her In the relatively short time she's been on council, she has brought a lot to the village. And she named some of those programs. And I just want to say, if you don't know what the first call program is, that's where mental health professionals are available when there is a call into 911. for something that may be a mental health issue. It is incredibly useful and helpful. She also brought the blue envelope program, which is where if anyone has a communication difference that they know to have, they have a blue envelope in their car that they can hand if they're pulled over, they can hand to the police officer and the police officer knows about this, that will explain their communication difference to make it, let's say an example would be like if they're deaf. just to make it clear like i'm not ignoring you this is my issue so it's a communication thing and that comes full circle around what we were saying i think that communication is something that we really need to improve on in the village nothing i think some conversations that make it sound like the village was hiding things from the residents, and that's never been the case. I think that it's just a matter of we need to be a little bit better about communicating what is happening, what the thought process is behind things, and that's something for us to work on. But I do appreciate you being here. Thank you guys for being here, and thank you, Kim, for all of your work. Amanda and Stacey.

First of all, even though you'll be here, whatever, a few more months or whatever, I'd be terribly remiss if I didn't thank him for all of our efforts on behalf of the community. You hit the ground running and initiated some of the fantastic programs you've heard about. and projects for our residents, which will certainly be your legacy. I thank you for your diligent efforts, your willingness to go to bat for what you always believed was in the best interest of Orange Village. Our loss is Carolina's gain. I want to thank all of the residents who came out not just tonight, but on Monday night to discuss the impact of the canyons project on Orange Tree residents. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT RESIDENTS SPEAK UP JUST LIKE YOU HAVE I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE INFORMATION THE VIDEOS THE PHOTOS THAT YOU'VE SHARED I ALSO APPRECIATE KEITH AND THE WILLINGNESS OF THE OTHERS THERE TO FIELD YOUR QUESTIONS I KNOW THE NEWLY PASSED NOISE ORDINANCE DOESN'T ELIMINATE ALL OF THE ISSUES FOR THOSE BACKING UP TO THE PROJECT AREA BUT HOPEFULLY IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS IMMEDIATELY may have cooled a little bit, but it's time for the Dog Days of Summer Market this Saturday, July 11th from 9 to 1 at the Loop in front of the Orange Village Building Department. Bring your four-legged friends and Ryan. Now is your chance so you don't feel left out about the dog park because there will be sweet pups up for adoption this week. So you can take advantage of that. Along with grooming trucks, a pet photographer, Kindland, tons of baked goods and sweet treats, pup keepers, beautiful stained glass pieces, and so much more. Please join us. The next market after that will be on August 8th. The Arts and Culture Committee met with the Veterans Committee last night, and we're very pleased to officially announce our Orange Goes Red, White, and Blue event on Thursday, September 3rd. We have secured the group Men of Independence, one of the top 15 Barbershop Harmony Choruses in the world, who will perform that evening potentially alongside an honor guard and national anthem soloist. It will also be a celebration of 250 years of America while being a great initial kickoff to our own upcoming Orange Village Centennial. We're excited to create a memorable evening dedicated to Orange Village, our children, our veterans, our servicemen and women, and our entire community. More details to come in August, but save the date now, September 3rd. Another date to save is August 15th. Spend the morning at the Orange Arts Center's second annual Art Fest, paint a community board once again, and then join us at the amphitheater that night as we're proud to once again have the fabulous band Replay perform wonderful blasts from the past. The concert will be from 6 to 8 p.m. Bring along a picnic dinner and join us. The Kiwanis Rummage Sale is coming up July 16th, 17th, and 18th. Please check it out. Support Kiwanis. Help them support others. One person's trash is another person's treasure, so please come check it out. I do want to bring up one thing, and I don't want to belabor or make this meeting any longer, but I do want to bring up an issue of data centers for discussion to come up tonight, the future. A number of communities around us, including North Ridgeville, Berea, Avon, and Cleveland have already passed legislation or moratoriums barring them. I don't know of any such entities currently being considered in Orange, but I would rather be ahead of this one than behind it. And some of the issues mentioned include a major strain on vital community resources, massive electricity usage that drives up utility costs, the noise and air pollution and water depletion that's needed for cooling and health and respiratory risks. I don't know if our code as it stands would allow these centers, but I wanted to raise the issue and think it might be advisable that we consider a moratorium on these centers for the benefit of all of our residents. I don't know if you want to discuss that now or push that off to August, but I do want to also just say one more note, a huge congratulations to School Resource Officer Todd Bennett of the Pepper Pike Police for being named the Ohio School Resource Officer of the Year. That's all I have. Thank you.

Thank you, Stacy. Great. I'm going to make a motion to adjourn to executive session to discuss pending and prospective litigation. Is there a second? Second. Thank you. And to include Chief Roberts in our discussion. So, Anna, will you call the roll for amending the agenda to include executive session? Yes. Boyle?

Yes. Bilski? Yes. Vincent? Yes. Curlin? Yes. Perry?

Yes. We will not be doing any further work after this, so feel free to leave. And let's start in one or two minutes. This should be fairly brief. Thank you.