Council - Regular Meeting

meeting to order and join us in our opening ceremonies. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And join me for a moment of silent prayer.

Amen. Um before we go on in the agenda, we have a couple introductions. Um we had some new employees and and we want to welcome them and see their faces and have them see our faces. So yeah. Yeah. So we just kind of want to put a face with a name to start with uh Chase Williams. Uh recently joined the electric department, a graduate from NCC Power Lineman. He's been working in that field for about three years. Um, originally from Fernell area and he's been with us for around five months. About three months.

Are they being nice to you? They're being real sweet. That's what I think of when I think of the utility. They're just sweet guys. Yeah. You guys, good. Glad to hear that. Well, welcome. We're glad to have you. All right. And we got Ty Taylor. Um he recently joined the wastewater wastewater department. Um he's been with us for around six weeks. Comes from the city of Broken Bow, Nebraska. Oh yeah. Um where he worked for public works in the street and parks department. So yeah, welcome. Glad to have you. Thank you. Oh, they're nice to you, too.

Yeah. And then Shane Scullard. So Shane recently joined the gas department. Um for this he worked with easeliner most recently born and sons drive a truck resides in Orange City and he's on his second your second week. Second week so he's fresh. Fresh meat, huh? You know Shane, you are of Daryl. Yep. See that's welcome. Thank you. Yeah.

And then we got uh Brett Kunan. So Brett also just joined the gas department. Um he worked for Alders Trucking Escavating and recently worked for Sou County operating road grader. So he resides in Alton and has been with us for one day. One day one full day under his belt. So tomorrow will approve if he comes back. Right. We'll be they'll be hooking up gasolines tomorrow. tomorrow. Yeah, if you show up tomorrow, we'll be happy. Yep. I'll be back. Okay. But thanks. Welcome to all of you. Thanks for stopping here. You

are always welcome to stay, but you sure may get out of here, too, if you want. You won't hurt our feelings or anything. So, thank you so much. Thank you. Hey, guys. Agenda item number three is approval of tonight's agenda. I don't think there are any changes. So, is there a motion to approve? All those in favor signify by saying I. I.

Oppos. Motion carries. Agenda item is four is um citizen comments and we allow this at each of our um city council meetings and it's for someone who would like to speak to the council um on non-aggenda items. And we do tonight have Henry and Dolores Kramer. So we welcome them to come forward with um like to talk about the puddle jumper trail.

Okay. Good afternoon everyone.

Yeah. I am here to represent the puddle jumper trail and I am D Kramer and my address is 204 Kentucky Avenue Northwest Orange City. This to the mayor, the council members and Noah Minink. The puddle jumper trail has been a real seen a real boost in happy cyclists and walkers this spring. I'm so thankful for everyone whose hard work is they've done in fixing up the trail after the storm last summer. Still, there are a lot of trees that fell and much debris is still along the trail. 25 years ago, the trail was just a running path. However, the usage of the pale has of the trail has changed over the years. We should move from the past with a trail designed just for runners to the future generations with a trail designed for families and people of all ages. We now have two housing developments, one just south of the trail and the other north of the trail. the Twin Houses. We have the Canal House, Walster Family Park, the hospital, and MOC Elementary School. Now, that brings a lot of people to the trail. The trail definitely needs work, but a gravel trail is just not the answer. Gravel is not conducive for biking, for small children, for strollers, and for wheelchairs, and it is not pleasant to walk on

gravel. I am asking the council to consider a concrete or asphalt path for the puddle jumper trail. Possibly consider a combination running path and a hard surface path. My husband Henry and I have walked and biked a trail for 25 years almost every day, weather permitting. We have become alarmed that many wild flowers have vanished or just been mowed over. A large malberry tree was chopped down across from the canal house and a double row of palm trees were destroyed and the area left in shambles. Well, these are important trees for attracting birds and butterflies. Could the city work with teachers and students from my biology class to possibly identify the variety of trees that we have and the wild flowers on the trail? They may have suggestions or for our trail and for methods of restoring and maintaining wild flowers. We should work to save the trail for families. Last October, on a beautiful fall day, I observed two young mothers, one with a struggling stroller and six little preschool kids. The children all had small bags and were picking up pretty leaves, small sticks, and other small treasures. They were on a nature walk. It was such a beautiful site. Now, I recently reviewed the website of

the Sous Center bike path. I know that's a different town, but I found the following information. The length is 3.3 miles and an asphalt surface. Activities include biking, inline skating, walking, and wheelchair accessible. Please consider updating the west entrance and the parking area to the trail, including the installation of a new sign and expanded parking space. Additionally, please consider installing a s solar caution light on Albany Avenue near the entrance to the puddle jumper trail which is located across from Vogals. The trail is a wonderful asset to our community. Furthermore, it is a treasure that will bring joy to future generations. if our city is diligent in its care of it. It is a unique trail that links Or city and Alton and it's time to update our puddle jumper trail to 2026. Thank you for your consideration. And I will give each of you each of you a copy of this if you'd like to just pass it around. And I also have uh pamphlets for you to just get an idea of what the puddle jumper trail is about. I think I have enough. Do you have any questions?

I really appreciate you coming. I really appreciate you coming and sharing this with us. Well, my fear is that we will lose the uniqueness of our trail because once a wild flowers disappear, it's so hard to get back and back. Thank you. You bet. Thank you, D, so much. Yeah. Okay. Um, that takes us to agenda item number five, which is exhibit one in your packet. If you had uh it's approval of our minutes. If you had a chance to review those, I would entertain a motion of approval.

All those in favor signify by saying I agenda item six, um a 10-year street improvement plan update. Jason, you going to walk us through that? Is that going to come up here? Y. Okay, I'll get out of the way.

Just before Jason uh gets into it here, it's a charge he's kind of been laying up here in the last couple months. Been a nice joint effort with Kent and and Luke. Um I think you've heard from Luke on past reports about streets and repair and and um kind of a large discussion coming the next two items on the agenda here. So um Jason's done a nice job putting together this um this plan. So yeah, so preface by saying this is a plan. It's a 10 year and things could change on it, but we wanted to give you guys some kind of foresight on, you know, repairs we see that are coming down the road. We've also included um new construction that we foresee coming um in the near future. So um I don't know the best way to go through this. if you guys want to look through it or if you want to talk through um each one individually. Uh so I can just go real quick and then if you guys have questions just stop me. So we got Seventh Street which um we're all aware of that project that's happening uh this year. Um and then Madison Place that will also be talked about later in this meeting. Um that's for new construction to open up some more lots. Um the K64 is on the schedule for next year. So that's a county project that's heading north um north out of town. Um and then we have we put 150,000 in the budget. We have to cover some of those costs um for that project. Um, another project we see potentially next year, um, is connecting Frankfurt to North Island addition. And then we would also like to look at a full replacement of Frankfurt

Southeast, which is goes by the MLC school. And then yeah, you can play to have some pictures kind of just give you a visual of the area where we're looking.

Yeah, we've we've tried to pick roads that are they're at their end of life. You know, it's it's time we it's where Luke spends a lot of his time in the summer making repairs, trying to make them as smooth as possible for residents. And then 2930, this is the big one. Um, so this is Albany South. Uh, we'll we'll talk more about this one um later on in this in this meeting as well, but it's from Highway 10 to just past Third Street. Um, this would be really phase one of this project. So, uh, the way this one works is we will we hope to apply for um some federal funding on this one. Um, this kind of shows the what we'll be back be asking for. Um, so that's a three-year process to get that funding. So, some of our spend on this will come year prior because we have to start the engineering and stuff like that, but the the big spend would be 2030 and then the during that construction. Um, and then we have uh 7th Street Northeast and St. Paul kind of just basically around the golf course swimming pool area. Our thought there is to do uh more of like a chip seal. Um that's the oil with the red rock to really preserve it and try to get another five years out of it. Um we did that on Seventh Street about five years ago, right?

And it it did all right. it it helped us uh get some other projects done before the before we're able to do a full resurface. So, that's kind of our thoughts on that one. Um is that Sorry, I need to get my readers. It's funny. I was trying them on in Target yesterday, too. I do need to get a pair. Uh this is June. Um, this one's it's a pretty rough rough road right now. Now, it doesn't get a lot of traffic, but

um, a lot of repairs and there's panels that probably need to be replaced, but we really don't even have anything to tie to them right now. So, um, we just wanted to get that one out out on the radar as well. Albany North. So that would be the second half of Albany getting it from, you know, just past third street down to 7th Street. Um will be a full reconstruction there and that'll be another big one. So the thought is we get approval, we get the the funding, federal funding for the south, basically once we got awarded that, we would then apply, you know, two, three years later for this and then that would be an earlier six-year plan for Albany. That program is similar to the Seventh Street funding that we got that's going to be happening this summer. And um there's some it's funding given to the eight or nine county area. And um um I think Seventh Street was one of our first projects ever that we've done and and cities. There's a little bit of strategy involved as far as how much timing and how much you ask of that group. Um and so that kind of factored into where those two big projects fell in this list. So,

is that kind of why you split the Albany into two separate? Both from our Yeah. our standpoint and for theirs. And sorry, just to interject, it's it's not likely you could do that all in one year construction wise. Anyway, um so funding and constructibility.

Um then we have Olympia is another one that's going to just pass June. there just east of Juno that there those roads were put in roughly the same time. I think that was part of the same development 80s I think is what I remember hearing. So then just some notes on you know 7th Street Southeast do some type of resurface project there as well. um you know that's roughly 5 years after the resurface or the chip seal to try to try to hang on to them as long as we can. And then you got K64 south of town. We know it's coming. We just don't know when. Um and we we'll have some expense there. So that's why it's TBD for a year. Um we we'll get what a fiveyear notice roughly. We'll see it in the county's five-year plan. So, that's where stuff will move around on this on this plan. Um, and then Florida Place, that's a potential new construction. Um, a road down where the old airport used to be. So, and then I just put a note on the bottom there. You know, we have 44 blocks, give or take, of the chip seal where it's the oil and the red rock. Um, we'll continue to maintain those roads. Um that way we've been putting money in the general fund every year and we have them kind of on a rotation. So try to get those to hold the and those aren't heavily traveled, you know, they're just the the residents. It's not like main pathways through town. Everything that's main pathways pretty much got, you know, redone. K64 South and K64 North. How much So the county participates north of 7th Street and then through town on Albany? It's all us or does the county participate at

all on that? All us through town. And then where does it pick up going south? Is it a mile? 460th. Okay. There used to be some partnership. Yeah. Um within city limit. Yes. Now, the county I think for for the K64 North, they got some of the same funding for that and so that's pretty affordable. I think they ask for quite a bit for that and and so that's why it's only 150,000 for roughly our mile. So, Sure. Sure. So, hopefully they can do that same thing going south too where they hopefully we're not competing with them on Albany,

but it could be. I don't know. find out we apply. I guess been asking for this for a few years. Yep. All right. Um, so now we want to pull up the PDF kind of show you what the

the federal Yeah, the federal funding. So, the the purple and the green line and the red, those are all of our roads that qualify for this funding um that we were able to they're they've been classified um that way to get that funding. Um, so I recently reached out to DOT and we're trying to get some more of our roads classified so we have more opportunity for that funding. The stuff in yellow is I don't know, call it pie in the sky. That's what you know, it would be nice. Um, there's limitations on how many miles you can have of of the federal classification. So, um, we're just starting the conversations with them, kind of understanding all the all the rules and what what roads make the most sense, but, um, we're going to be going after that and trying to get some of those in. Um, St. Paul for sure will be a focus. Um, and I think, uh, 14th, is that right, Matt? The one, the industrial one down there. We feel like that

has good justification. And then we'll see what else can um I know you can get 15% of your total miles of the city um can be the deal and 20% of your total miles can be like a collector. So we'll just see which ones fit. And like I said, we're just kicking those conversations off, but hopefully I have no idea what the process will be like with the DOT, you know. So, I'll say hopefully in the next 6 months I have an answer to, hey, we got these reclassified and they could be potential future funding for them. So, any questions on that? Not we can roll into the application for Albany. So, that said, this is

exhibit two in your packets. the Albany Avenue Southeast Surface Transportation Application.

So, um really with this, we're looking for an application to sign and submit this to that board to start that process estimates put together kind of what this what the city's portion of it would be. Um, I saw the 10ear plan for the financing option. I guess I didn't talk about that on the 10-year plan for the financing option bond for this. Some of those repairs are going to be road tax how we would fun describe what we're applying for.

Yeah. As far as the percentages.

Yeah. So, um, we're won't we're asking for, so this program, it pays for the road construction piece of it. They don't they don't cover any utilities or anything like that unless you think they're modifying for road construction. So, um, it shows in the one corner that I think we're asking for 37% of the project. We're really asking the federal uh DOT for 50% of the road construction project is the way it's broke out. So that was our request of the 1.3 it's 50% road construction. So the extra work that we'll have to do to utilities that run under Albany is that reflected in the cost on the

that's reflected in the 2.3 that would be that's why we're at the 67% of the total project. Okay. And since these are three possibly four years out, we've started including uh inflation factor um just cuz we've got a good handle on today's dollars of construction, but in four years it's it's tough to tell. So, it's intentionally inflated somewhat. And then we also have a contingency on there as well. um just because we're yeah three years out and don't know what the project is fully going to entail but and that the utilities would be water on that um note and then just storm that we need to look similar function the same way I mean no big changes that way but

yeah it's It's intended to be resurfaced. So, it's a road that's held up for its age very well. Um, it's just it's it's getting to be time um to improve. And then with the DOT process, there will have to be like the ramps, the ADA ramps will all have to be replaced. Sidewalks. Yeah. We're good. We're old from 1956. Oh dear. My age is old. It's a little bit better than some other things. Yeah.

So, what you're looking for is a motion just to approve that application. Correct. So, move. Any other questions or comments? All those in favor signify by saying I. I carries. Thanks for your work, guys. Appreciate that. Then the next one, agenda item eight is a resolution that we um have to make for the construction of the Madison Place extension project and we have to set a public hearing date for April 6th. It looks like

so we are yeah currently going through planning and then uh bid letting will be April 1st um and then yeah hoping to yeah resolution for opening um public hearing on April 6 be able to review those documents any questions on that or is there somebody willing to make a motion for that resolution? So move. And it is a resolution. So we'll do a roll call and I will start with you, Andrew. Yes. What? Yes. Brett. Yes. Olivia. Yes.

Yes. Excellent. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Are we keeping you busy enough? Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Mark. Thank you. Yep. We have a bunch of ordinance um before us that uh in talking with Janet and Matt, it's just kind of coming up to the Iowa standard. What they're recommending is that the right way to say the 2025 legislative changes

2025 legislative changes that we have to um approve these ordinances to be up to date. So with all of these um there's five of them and this is you know you do a first reading and then you usually a second reading third reading but there's really nothing um controversial controversial or anything that we can can if you wish wave the second and third and then approve the first. So the ordinance number 864 is an ordinance amending provisions pertaining to cigarette and tobacco permits. Is that the one that you were That's exhibit three in your packet. Is that the one that you said goes electronic?

Yeah, it's just that people have to file electronically now. Interesting. So, the businesses have to do that yet the deal. Okay. That's really changed. Yeah. Okay. So, is there just just need a motion to approve ordinance number 864? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed? Motion carries. And what's your feeling on the second and third reading? Wave. Did you you made Olivia made a motion? She just went right above you. Right for you.

Um in support. Okay. All those in favor signify by saying I opposed. And then we do need another motion to adopt ordinance number 864. All those in favor signify by saying yes. Yes. Good. So, same scenario kind of down here. Um, agenda item number 10, ordinance number 865, an ordinance amending provisions pertaining to liquor license and wine and beer permits. That's exhibit four in the packet. Does that have to be online too or what? No, it just redefineses what canned cocktails means.

Oh. Are those some of those that you can all those other beverages you can buy in cans now? Yeah, I guess so. Okay, defin we go. Is there a motion to approve the um first reading of that? So move support. All those in favor signify by saying yes. Yes. Interested in waving the second and third motion. Okay. All those in favor signify by pass by saying I. I. And is there a motion to adopt ordinance number 865?

All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Great. Now agenda item 11 is ordinance number 866, which is an ordinance amending provisions pertaining to conflict of interest. Anything special on that one, Janet? Really? Not. Yeah, it just has to do that it would allow an officer council to get paid a stipen if they're a volunteer firefighter. Oh, or an EMS person. Okay, Jeff. Is there a motion to approve the first reading of 866?

All those in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. Motion carries. And then is there a motion to wave the second and third reading? All those in sign by saying I I a motion to um approve. Adopt. That's the word I was thinking of. Adopt.

All those in favor signify by saying yes. that up. Okay. Agenda item 12 is ordinance number 867 which is exhibit six in your packet and this pertains to amending provisions pertaining to public hearing requirements. It's just standardizing the four days, no less than four days. There was some that had a little bit different wording in there. And the zoning part will come in the future because that needed to run through planning and zoning to come as a recommendation first. So it just keeps it cleaner. Okay. I'm glad that you can remind us of all these things. Yeah.

So is there a motion to adopt the first reading of 867? All those in signify by saying I I opposed. Motion carries. Then interested in a motion to wave the second and third. All those in favor signify by saying I. I I and a motion to adopt number 867. All those in favor signify by saying yes. Yes.

Motion passes. Great. One more. Ordinance number 868 is an ordinance adding a new section prohibiting false representation of a service animal. Well, that kind of speaks speaks for yourself. If you try to sneak, you better you better not ever want Chloe to be a ser she'll eat the store. Um, so she is. So, is there a motion to approve the first reading of ordinance number 868? Is this a new ordinance or just updating wording? This um it adds this about the just the false representation of a service animal. So, we have a whole thing on animals already. So,

and this is just coming from the state's guidance. Yes, it is. Yeah. Because technically like motel have to really honor service dogs, aren't they supposed to? I imagine. Yeah. Mhm. And restaurants really. So, but making sure that it's under the correct name of service dog. So, is there a motion to approve the first reading of ordinance number 868? Support. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Motion carries.

Yeah. Motion carries. And then um want to wave the second and third. So move. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. And do you want to adopt ordinance number 868? Someone support. All in favor say yes. Yes.

Okay. Good job, guys. Okay, that takes us to agenda item 14. And we've received a renewal application for class B retail alcohol license from Walter Meat Market for Highland Post and a class C retail alcohol license from Verborgan Kame. Is that how you say that? And everything's in order, right? It is. Yep. Okay. So, we just need a motion to approve those. 14. All those in favor signify by saying yes. Yes.

Motion passes. All right. Um agenda item 15 is a resolution authorizing the ex execution of an amendment to gas supply agreement. Kent's going to come up with PFA in connection with the reset of the available discount in PFA approving the issuance of bonds.

So there you go, Kent. Yes. Yes. So, yeah, PIFA um is what is the organization just like it says in the agenda note. This was a pre uh gap pay arrangement that we entered into in 2019 with Clayton Energy. It was a 30-year uh bond at that time. We basically got a 7-year locked in gas discount rate of about 30 cents that we pass on to restoration. True. Um this is seven years is upcoming July of 26. So sometime here in the next few months uh Clayton Energy is asking all its members to amend the uh contract that we did in 19. They are adding a few more municipalities into the group. And so it was a 600 I mean it's big dollars in regards to it's about 614 million was the gas revenue bond that they did in 19. Now, with this one, uh, I was talking to Bill Lley this afternoon, and he said it's about an $850 million revenue bond that they'll do sometime here in the next 60 to 90 days. Our share of that is about 12 to 13 million. Okay? And so, we're just asking you guys to amend this gas contract. It starts a new 30-year contract, but it also locks in a new seven-year, and we'll know what that discount rate is when they actually sell the bonds on that day. But we think it's going to be in that 30 to I hate to even say but I mean plus or minus 56 cents on that. So any other questions?

You have anything else to add? Yeah. This we're basically taking advantage of our maint bond interest. Yep. That versus the tax. Yeah. Yeah. Tax. It does not impact our bond. It does not bond um rating at all or bond capacity. Correct. any of our other operations. So, so it's a good thing. It's a great time. Great. It's a good time. Okay. Thank you. And we just need a resolution of that, right? Yep.

Okay. Any questions from anybody to understand it or is there a motion to approve that resolution? So move order and it is a resolution. So we will do roll call and I'll start with you Mark. Yes. Brett. Yes. Olivia. Yes. Yes. And Andrew? Yes. Excellent. Thank you. Oh, Robert to administrator. Matt.

Yeah. Just a couple things. Um, as uh you may or may not pay attention to the uh uh there's a lot of activity in De Moines legislatively and u one of the things that we're certainly paying attention to is the property tax um issues. I think the governor, the uh house and the senate have all proposed multiple uh bills pertaining to that and so we're monitoring that. We were on a a conference call this morning or webinar about that and a lot of complexities. Um, I think there's a general feeling of wanting to cap growth year-over-year of property taxes as far as what cities can can look at um can can ask for. So whether that's limits on on assessed value or limits on what our levies are, um we're monitoring that. Uh there is a group of uh cities um put on sponsored by the Iowa League of Cities that's that's being a little bit more proactive in providing some recommendations to the legislators instead of just pushing back and saying no, we don't like that. Um we're offering some uh compromised positions on that just to try to get a little bit better uh middle ground for for the communities cuz there's we're fortunate we're growing um but there's certainly a lot of communities that aren't and and that could really impact services and um you know resources that they're able to provide for their communities. So um a lot of moving parts yet happening but we'll we'll keep monitoring that. Um we are uh I'll be sending you a a link for city apparel um just so you know we'll um um as we did last year to kind of a online store so that and then um this past budget season we had talked about a u the purchase of a tractor for um for multiple things with the snow removal for the street

department but also for uh the the sewer department with with a pump. Uh Jason and Luca have been pretty active on on putting the feelers out and um there's there's tractors available and I guess we are um looking uh basically for for u not approval but just putting it out there that we might be coming with the recommendation earlier than than July 1. Um just because of the um the spring rains and things like that. We we'd like to potentially purchase that before year's budget season. So, there's some good deals and not so good deals. So, good deals, but

that's all I had. Any questions for Janet? No, nothing for you. Ryan, do you have anything before? Okay, Kent. Oh, uh, last meeting I did report that we were possibly having a deal on the sale of the the aerial and, uh, we did receive today a signed letter of intent from a community to purchase our aerial and it's basically it's a little over double the price that we were guaranteed by brokers that were out there. So, Oh, awesome. Good. Good job, Jim. Do you have anything? No.

Anything else? Jason, Miss Jenna, you have anything? How many days? 72 days. You're all welcome to join us on the 18th. So, is that the um Thanks, Ganza. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think the city gets a table. You do have a table if anybody's I have to present something. So, put me there. Give them gifts. Yeah. It's kind of It's fun. You get to see the girls in and their costumes and the and lots of the night show and just what's going on? So we don't have snow. I think we did have snow one time, didn't we? 2022.

Yeah. Did we quit it? Did we cancel it? Uh, so we we moved it last year because of weather. Okay. Which we didn't really get anything, but we were anticipating getting stuff. Yeah. And then we had it, but it was very snowy. Okay. That's okay. Keeps us keeps us going. So, council, you have any comments, Andrew? Mark, uh, library board has been busy updating policies and uh, bylaws. So, they put a lot of good work into that. Good. I'm glad they enjoy that. I'm glad you're supervising. Yeah, that's good, Brett.

Uh, not a lot. just I guess what is kind of our general I mean when something like this comes do we just kick that back to Noah and parks and wreck to look at it or I guess you know when Ruth came to talk about the trees in the cemetery and then we didn't do anything and then she g you know they obviously came down and caused some damage so I just want to make sure whatever steps we need to take to you know if it's a strategic planning type conversation or you know thinking how we keep it in front of us. So that Yeah,

that's a good good question. We'll I'll review that with Noah and maybe provide some feedback on what we've done and what needs to be done yet especially with cleanup and you know if there's some um flowers and trees that have disappeared, you know, what is their plan or what what what has happened cuz I mean going to a concrete trail or something like I mean that's a lot bigger, right? I mean that would be on a strategic planning long-term plan type of deal I would assume. try to clean it off in the winter and that kind of stuff too, wouldn't it? Yeah. Yeah. And we do lower down the list, but that is one of ours that we do clean off if it works out way. But um

keep in mind the community betterment with signage or lighting. Those things I think could be very appropriate uses of that those funds. I think Kent is there some plans for the west entrance budgeted or I know Noah talked about some signage that Yeah, he did actually. Yes, he did. So, the signage. Yes. There are a lot of people that cut across all me onto that line. So, yeah. College, high schools, everyone during their cross countries. Yeah. Be good to take yours. Be good.

The entirety of the trails down all on our city limits. So, it's going to be joint project with Alton if we do that. Yeah. because when it crosses it applied for some trails grants at one time with Dunlop. That might be something to look into again if we do one

as a runner. I I've always been pro concrete, but I've talked to a lot of people that said they would stop using it if it ever went to concrete. As far as runners, I get the stroller. What about the asphalt? Is that the same thing? Kind of. Yeah, it's softer. So, it's people runners at least I I get the stroller and wheelchair with the grapple, but uh runners themselves seem to prefer the grapple. The gravel. Yeah. I think it's there's concrete alternative routes there as well. There are. And we're we're a concrete uh refurbishment, I guess, of this trail if that's where that's at on the priority of our trails across town as well. You know, there's

Yeah, that's what we should kind of re-evaluate where we're That's a good point. Yeah. Olivia, no. I don't have anything either. We are um going to be going into a close session for a real estate issue. I don't and we won't be making any decisions coming out of that. So, it's just more information. I need to have a um motion to go into close session for Iowa code section 21.5.1J real estate support. And that is a um roll call. So, I'll start with you, Brett. Yes. Olivia, yes.

Darren, yes. Andrew, yes.