City Traffic Commission - Regular Meeting

All right. We are back on the old system. So bear with us a little bit. Thank you for getting us back up and running. I was all prepared to do it on like pen and

paper. Perfect.

All right. So with that, we will move on to the public comments. I got to remember how to work this system now. Well, perfect. Paper agendas too. Look at that. Great. All right. Do we have any speakers on the public comment? Nope. Seeing none, we'll move

general. General. Like, I could be, like, sort of off topic.

Anything off topic. Perfect. Alright. With that, we'll move on to the consent calendar. All matters listed under the consent calendar are considered to be routine by the city traffic commission and will be enacted by one motion.

There will be no separate discussion of the items unless a member of the commission or staff or the public request to pull the item or to pull the consent calendar. Get a motion to approve the consent. I think I see Everybody disappeared, but I believe there's a first and a second.

Yes. Perfect.

I have a second.

Oh. Alright. Looks like commissioner Redding first and commissioner Gebery a second. Alright. With that, I'll go ahead and call for the vote.

All right. With that, the motion passes unanimously. All right. With that, we'll move on to Item 4.1, which is the proposed installation of rectangular rapid flashing beacons on White Oak Ridge, approximately two sixty feet east of Deep Spring Roads. We'll go ahead and turn that over to staff for the report.

Good evening, chairman and members of the traffic commission.

Item 4.1 is the request for rectangular rapid flashing beacons on White Oak Ridge approximately 260 feet east of Deep Spring Road. Staff received a request for the city to consider installing rectangular rapid flashing beacons or RRFBs on White Oak Ridge at

the mid block ramps located approximately twenty sixty feet east of Deep Spring Road. White Oak Ridge, spanning from Deep Spring Road to Trails And Lane is a two lane roadway measuring 40 feet in width with parking permitted on the south side of the street. The land use along this stretch of White Oak Ridge is generally comprised of single family residences and recreational land use. White Oak Ridge from Deep Deep Spring Road To Trails End Lane is a 35 mile per hour street. The proposed RRFP installation is located at a pair of mid block ramps that are often used as a crossing by users of either end of the paved trails, connecting an open space passeo to the North and Santiago Hills Park to the South.

During site observations, staff noted pedestrian activity levels at this crossing to be higher than average as well as an opportunity to better connect the surrounding community. The site sketch illustrates the proposed installation of RRFBs on White Oak Ridge at the mid block ramps located approximately 260 feet east of Deep Spring Road. Upon activation, the RRFBs alert motorists that pedestrians are present at a crossing by flashing alternating high intensity LEDs. RRFPs are traffic equipment that are expected to enhance visibility to motorists and improve vehicle yield rates when activated. The proposed RRFBs are similar to those installed near other pedestrian crossings in the city.

Staff recommends the traffic commission approve the request for rectangular rapid flashing beacons on White Oak Ridge approximately two sixty feet east of Deepsburg Road. This concludes my report, and I am available to answer any questions at this time.

Great. Thank you.

All

right. With that, before I open up the public portion, any questions for staff? Go ahead, Commissioner Rainey.

Question for staff. On the baseline observations, do we have any yield numbers or baseline numbers now that we can refer to if we reevaluate in six months?

Mister commissioner Redding, so we we we don't we don't have that information. We could certainly collect it if directed by the commission. What we do have are pedestrian numbers. I believe there were in the ballpark of 170 to 200 pedestrians using that I guess crossing the street at that particular location on the busiest days of the week.

All right. Any other questions for staff? Go ahead, Commissioner Barbato.

On the conditions, a question for the staff. On the conditions, I see there's painted walkway. Is that part of this voting process? Or is that something separate?

So if you're referring to the crosswalk, yes, that would be part of the installation.

Thank you. All right. We'll go ahead and open it up to the public portion. And it looks like we have one speaker, Cindy Ellington. She meant 4.4. It's not just us having technical difficulties. All right. Seeing no other public is wanting to speak on that item, I'll go ahead and can't speak either. See? Go ahead and close

the public portion and bring it back to

the Commission for either a motion or decision or discussion, sorry. Looks like we have a first Commissioner Reiting.

There was a request to speak. Was there an Oh, sorry. On the old system, it showed that there was an online public comment. Was there an online public comment for this one? I'm just asking because I thought I read one that was in opposition for these lights.

It was for a different item. Was it for a different was item? 4.2.

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Go ahead, Commissioner. Are you motioning or are you speaking?

I was going to motion that we approve item 4.1 as presented.

We have a motion. Are getting a second? Commissioner Chavarria seconds. Any further discussion? Seeing none, I'll go ahead and call for the votes.

All right. With that, the motion passes unanimously. Alright. With that, we'll move on to item 4.2, which is a three hour timed limited parking on the North Side Of Catello Avenue adjacent to the commercial frontage of 1249 East Catello Avenue. That, will turn it over to staff for the report, please.

Thank you. Item 4.2 is for the request to install three hour time limited parking on the North Side Of Catella Avenue adjacent to the commercial frontage of 1249 East Cotella Avenue. The existing twenty minute limit twenty minute time limit was implemented prior to the redevelopment of the abutting property. The requested installation of three hour time limited parking is more appropriate for the current land use. The 1200 East Block Of Cotella Avenue primarily supports commercial uses.

These commercial buildings have on-site off street parking lots for their customers and clients. However, the aforementioned commercial parcel has limited visitor parking supply. Additionally, the north side of East Cotel Avenue along the frontages adjacent to 1111 East Cotel Avenue and 1249 East Catello Avenue are currently signed for twenty minute time limited parking. The site sketch shown illustrates the proposed three hour time limited parking on the north side of Catella Avenue adjacent to the commercial frontage of 1249 East Catella Avenue. Since the commercial parcel has transitioned from use as a bank to senior housing, increasing the allowable parking interval is more compatible with the needs of visitors and family members.

It should be noted that consistent with the orange municipal code, the proposed three hour time limited parking would be effective between 7AM and 6PM. Outside of those hours, the spaces would be available for general unrestricted parking. The three hour parking would not be exclusive to the Catala Terrace Apartments and is expected to benefit other nearby businesses whose customers can also use the affected parking spaces. To allow for more visitor parking options at the Catala Terrace Apartments, staff recommends that the city traffic commission consider the request for three hour time mode parking at the North side of 1249 East Catala Avenue. To implement three hour parking, we'll require the approval of resolution number TC01Dash2026.

This concludes my report, and I am available to answer any questions at this time. Thank you.

Great. Thank you. Any questions for staff at this time? Seeing none, I'll go ahead and open up the public portion. See that there's no speakers on this item. Seeing none, I'll go ahead and close the public portion and bring it back to the commission for further discussion or a motion.

I have a question for staff. Right now, it's presently twenty minutes and it's for commercial use only. I couldn't hear you, so I wanted to verify that. I'm asking that because it looks like if we add three hour parking, it could be a safety concern in that area of Katela. It seemed like a very busy place to be having people parking on a normal basis. Can you discuss more about the have we done any safety standard research on that?

Commissioner Chavarria, so parking going back in time a little bit, parking used to be unrestricted along that curb space and when there was I think it was Citizens Bank or when the land use was a bank because well, twenty minutes kind of works best for people running in and out to the ATM. And so we've gone through unrestricted parking, twenty minute parking and so we've had a variety of different types of parking there over the years without any sort of incident. The reason why the three hour limit is recommended is more compatible with present land use.

Thank you. That's all I have.

I'll go ahead and move it.

Commissioner Hamilton seconds. I'll go ahead. Any further discussion? Seeing none, I'll call for the vote. With that, the motion passes unanimously. With that, we'll move on to item 4.3, which is a request for permit parking on both sides of Fremont Way from Lavita Avenue to Delia Lane. Maria?

Good afternoon, Chairman and members of the Traffic Commission. Item 4.3 is a request to implement permit parking on both sides of Fairmont Way from Lavita Avenue to Delia Lane. A resident of Fairmont Way submitted a request to initiate the process for permit parking. The limits for evaluation are shown in the area map above. The neighborhood permit parking program requires that 75% of curbside parking must be utilized at the time of observation.

Using the dates and times provided by the residents, staff conducted parking occupancy studies. The first table shows the results of these studies. As you can see, Fairmont Way met the 75% threshold. Staff then circulated petitions to residents on Fairmont Way. The neighborhood permit parking program requires that 75% votes in favor for permit parking is needed to be considered.

The second table shows results of the petition process with Fairmont Way achieving the required support. The aerial above illustrates the proposed permit parking limits on Fairmont Way based on the occupancy study and the petition results. As a reminder, the neighborhood permit parking program does allow property owners on the adjacent street experiencing spillover to request a permit parking process be initiated within one year without having to pay the application fee. However, parking occupancy, position thresholds and any other requirement in effects would still apply. Staff recommends the traffic commission approve the request for permit parking on both sides of Fairmont Way from Louvita Avenue to Dealey Lane and forward this on to the city council for final action.

This concludes my report, and I'm available to answer any questions at this time.

Great. Thank you. Any questions for staff? You have a question. Go ahead. Commissioner Rey?

Question for staff. With these permit requests, which are pretty frequent, do we ever consider the spillover effect? Because it seems like your street is permit only and then it kind of squeezes everybody to the next street over, sorry. So do we do an analysis? This is for the public too and I don't know. But do we do some sort of analysis to see what the other streets, how they're impacted when we provide a permit?

Yeah. So when the resident comes in to make the request, they actually give us the boundaries. But when we go out to do the occupancy study, we do take a look at the surrounding streets. And sometimes we have added streets in to the program based on the occupancy study, but they still have to go through the petition process. But we do have a spillover program where a resident can come in and say, hey, now the cars are on my street. Are you able to give me permits? And we'll go through the whole process with them without them having to pay the initial fee.

They have to meet the criteria, though, to be considered. So that's the direction that counsel voted a few years back was that at no cost. If these cars are shifted over and starting to affect another street, then they can come back at no cost. But it still has to meet the threshold in order to be considered.

That's great. It's good for the public to hear, too. Thank you.

One more out loud comment about that is for those who are interested in applying within that one year timeframe, it would be wise to recommend maybe waiting a month or two after the implementation. That way, if the study was done, there would be a higher chance they would meet that threshold for the permit. Because if they do it right out the gate, there may not be as many cars as there would be maybe a couple months after people start shifting. Not much of a comment, but affirming.

Thank you. All right. Any other questions for staff at the moment? Seeing none, we'll go ahead and open the public portion. We have a couple of speakers on this item. Up first is Mark Rosales, and then after Mark, we have Anna Ilef.

So my name is Mark, I live around the neighborhood, mostly in Delia Lane. But I have a if you may or may not know, we live next over the bridge of three apartment complexes. So I know, as you know, parking enforcement knows that that area is a nightmare. So a lot of those cars spill over to our neighborhoods. And it's been an ongoing problem for a few years, but now it's been even more of a problem due to overpopulation on their side and the new building that's on the corner of Lavita and Tustin.

And I just want to Vice Chair A. J. Reci said that it would spill over to our side because I've noticed that I'd imagine that they'll realize there's part that you need a permit on this side. So I'm going to guess they'll through time, they'll move over to Delia Lane and Pryor or nearby neighborhoods. And on I came to speak that this area is a high traffic area for vanity vehicles.

I think in the past month, there's been two towed cars that's been there for three or two weeks. And prior to that, every other year, there's, like, stolen vehicles. So this is another, like, concern I have towards the area. And another concern in the area is I've talked to the traffic control once where we used to have speed bumps in both Fairmont Way and Delia, and I've been noticing it's it almost feels like a freeway around the area because of the constant cars passing by. And personally, I've had a dog that's been ran over in the area and a cousin ran over.

So I don't know if that's off topic agenda for the area's speed bumps. And then regarding the parking permits, would this be an I've noticed around the city that there's some that say through six to a certain time in the afternoon, would this be straight up no permit? Because I I believe that this area should be, if you have a permit or not, not hourly because I do notice that the people who do park there are relentless with parking, like, they'll block your mailbox, their driveways, people would show up in construction vehicles or oversized trailers. So that's just another concern I have is that the area is congested with vehicles. And it might not look like it during the, like, early morning, but in the afternoon, there'll be like 10 cars that show up that because most people have driveways, but all the cars you'll see on the side are most are all of them are from the nearby apartment complexes.

So that's just the concern I have because it's been an ongoing problem and I think it's been amplified more due to overpopulation on their side and maybe due to other residencies that have renters. So everyone, like, kind of tries to find the area, but due to those people parking where residents' houses are, it's kind of hard to park in front of your house when you have people that sit there. And I understand it's a public area, but they'll leave it for more than the seventy two hours that are permitted. So, yeah, they we I do have neighbors that look over that, but it's been an ongoing problem. So I feel like this would kind of make them stray away from that. Because I do believe, if I'm not wrong, that La Vida does permit parking.

Thanks. Thank you, Mr. Rosales. Thank you. Appreciate it. Anna. And then after Anna, we have Garrett Turlock.

Hello. Okay. Well, thank you for the opportunity to make some comments regarding the agenda item 4.3, related to installing a parking permit program on Fairmont Way. I live on a cul de sac next to Fairmont Way, while I'm fully aware of the volume of cars on Fairmont, I have serious concerns about how this permit program will impact surrounding streets in the neighborhood tract. I request that the commission consider ramifications of this permit program surrounding neighborhood streets that will inevitably be affected by neighbors who are unwilling to purchase a permit and instead park on Delia, Lowery Street, or other adjacent streets.

These streets are already heavily impacted by residents with multiple cars on the street, particularly overnight, and on street sweeping nights, several vehicles are parked on lawns. While this permit program may alleviate the problem for residents for about a dozen homes on Fairmont, it is shortsighted, and I believe that it will create new problems for residents on Delia, Lowry, and Breezy Way. My opinion is that a parking permit be mandated for all streets in the entire neighborhood track. And if that is not possible at this time, then my opinion is that this should not move forward because it will just lead to congestion on my street and for all of my neighbors on surrounding streets. So thank you.

Thank you. After Garrett, we have Rachel Fetten.

Hi. Good evening. My name is Garrett Turlak. I've been a resident of this area for over twenty years. I'm a property owner.

We've been asking for something like this through complaints to code enforcement and also to the city for many years. This is the first time that we've gotten this far to talk about this issue. We've already had, for many years, an existing big problem with multifamily housing on the other side of the 55 Freeway constantly spilling over parking on all of our streets. And what's happening is they're lining up on the streets at the corner of La Vita and South Fairmont Way, which leads to increased risk of accidents, safety issues, things like that. We have kids.

We have folks walking around, lots of cars flying around, as Mr. Rosales alluded to earlier. We are frequently faced with seventy two hour code violation issues on our street. It's a constant, constant problem that I think city code enforcement might get tired of coming out to put tickets on. And our street has become a very common spillover for, again, the existing multifamily.

But throughout the construction process of the new Orion senior living facility, same thing. We're getting construction workers, we're getting all types of people parked there. And the assumption is that those residents might spill over there as well. But from a safety perspective, having the vehicles on every corner of these intersections for us, is an issue. Most of our kids went to La Vita Elementary School right there down the road.

I think anyone in the city that lives near that area can tell you that that intersection of Yorba and La Vita has accidents all the time. And so we're just trying to get to kind of slow down, calm down, and stop using South Fairmont Way as a meeting and drop off place. People will meet up, leave vehicles there, disappear for three or four days, and then maybe return after four days to pick up that other vehicle that they left there for some reason. Those are our concerns. Thank you for listening to us today. Appreciate it. Thanks.

Thank you. Rachel?

Hello. My name is Rachel. I am the corner house on Fairmont, and it is a huge problem that we are having. My kids can't even play out front anymore because one of the neighbors or the neighbors, whoever's parking out there, they're leaving drugs, they're leaving all of their trash. There's multiple times where I've had to go out, pick up all the trash that they just throw out of their cars.

And it's, yeah, inconvenient, it's stressful, but my main thing is they're they have no respect for the street because they don't live there, they don't care. They're flying down that street. I've had one neighbor who had to go and yell at a person because they were doing 30 miles down the street. And if you don't know Fairmont, it's kind of technically a dead end on both ends. And they're getting up to speed on that street and almost hitting animals.

People are crossing the street walking their dogs. They're almost getting getting hit, and it's just a never ending process. We've had I've found little vapes in the street. Right in front of my house, I have a seven year old girl who, if she didn't know what that was, pick it up and think it's candy because it's pink and it smells good. They've had those cartridges.

I'm not sure what they're called, but they're you puff on them. They're supposed to be for cake making, And we found those outside on the street, and it's just a never ending trash pickup day for me and most of my neighbors that are here as well. And for the neighbors that aren't happy about it then or want to look more into it, I am more than happy to help them show the process on how they can avoid the spillover. It's all mainly apartment people that are coming from I think it's Tustin Avila Apartments and then the two new apartment complexes that we have, the people, like Garrett said, from La Vida, they're all just piling in, Lavida School piling in, leaving their cars there for four or five days. We had one guy that left his car there for two and a half weeks and was even getting parked street sweeping tickets.

And he finally left because we got city to come and tag his car, and underneath it was just nothing but trash, spider webs, vapes. We found condoms in the street. We find all kinds of fun stuff. So thank you for your time. Great.

Thank you. Anyone else wanting to speak on this item here? We can't go back to you. Seeing none, we'll go ahead and close the public portion and bring it back to the commission for any further discussion or action on the item. We have a first. Commissioner Chabarria seconds. Any further discussion? Seeing none, go ahead and call for the vote. And with that, the motion passes unanimously. All right.

With that, before we move on to item 4.4, I will turn the meeting over briefly to deputy public works director, city traffic engineer, Larry Tae.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Before we get going with the staff report, I just want to introduce both the item and the speaker. This is a traffic signal retiming item that we're about to present to the commission. It's not something that we brought before you very often recently, but certainly something well within your authority, well within your purview.

I'm gonna say that we recognize there's a lot of history associated with this particular intersection and what we're presenting tonight is not something to propose to undo that history in terms of prohibiting through movements from going through East and West bound. Just rather presenting an alternative way to address some of the concerns that we've been feeling over and over again in terms of just the traffic operations. And with that said, I'd like to also introduce mister Martin Verona, our our new senior, civil engineer on staff. Martin is overseeing the traffic operations and lighting group. He's a lifelong resident of Orange, I think, and we hope he spends the rest of his life working here at Orange.

Yeah. He's basically overseeing the the took over the superintendent position out at the yard, deals with all the signal timing matters and he's been doing a great job and we're excited to have him with us. So with that in mind, Mr. Verona, please take it away.

Good evening, Chairman and members of the Traffic Commission. Item 4.4 is for discussion of potential operational changes to the intersection of Tustin Street and Briardell Taft Avenue. At this intersection, Briardell Avenue is the eastbound approach and Taft Avenue is the westbound approach. Street signage prohibits east west through traffic. This through traffic prohibition was implemented as part of a traffic calming strategy approved by the City Council in 1996.

Currently, all east and westbound traffic are served simultaneously. Feedback from road users point to some concern over the potential conflicts when motorists from the two westbound left turn lanes and the one eastbound right turn lane are turning onto Tustin during the same interval. Staff has staff has assessed the signal operations and developed an alternative operational strategy for consideration. Staff recommends to split the service of the east and westbound approaches, which would serve one direction at a time. This alternative would reduce the number of movements that are permissible at any given time and in doing so, be expected to improve user comfort at the intersection.

The proposed operational change would require minor changes to the traffic signal equipment. For the eastbound approach, it is served by three traffic signals. One way the signal indications might be redesigned is for the left two traffic signals that currently show solid ball indications to be replaced with arrow indications. And for the traffic signal on the right to keep the red ball indication, but replace the yellow and green ball indications with arrows instead. For the westbound approach, it is served by four traffic signals.

One way the signal indications might be redesigned is for the left two traffic signals that currently show solid ball indications to be replaced with arrow indications and for the two traffic signals on the right to be preserved. There will be no changes to the traffic signals serving Testing Street. Serving the east westbound approaches one at a time rather than together would require redistributing some of the intersections total green time from Tustin Street to Briardell Taft Avenues. An engineering analysis was performed to determine whether the expected benefits outweigh any potential drawbacks. The analysis indicates that motorists will experience minimal delay during peak hours.

However, the intersection is expected to operate at the same level of service with or without the operational changes. Since the expected benefits of the proposed operational change outweigh drawbacks, staff recommends splitting east and westbound traffic during the traffic signal cycle and serving them individually. The east and westbound through traffic movements will continue to be prohibited. This concludes my report, and I am available to answer any questions at this time.

Great. Thank you, and welcome. Any questions for staff? Seeing none right at the moment, we'll go ahead and open it up to the public. One second, let me switch screens back over. We'll open up the public portion of this. Got a few of you that want to speak on this item. So we'll start with Mike Bridges, and then after Mike, it'll be Nora Walkoff.

Commissioner and staff. Oops. Sorry. I've lived on Tustin and Bridal for thirteen years now, and each year, it's just getting worse and worse with all the traffic. We are asking if we can get a green light going.

It'd be east on Taft, because right now, we're having to go all the way down Tustin to Meats, and I'm sounding kind of like a snowflake. But now they got that trap that construction job they're doing on Taft, and so we have to go all the way around before we could go to the Home Depot parking lot and cut through, but now it's all blocked off because of that construction they're doing. And also, we would ask that you keep it from going through on Briardell. There's been a there's a house that's been hit three times in the last twenty years because people are speeding. I recommend that we get speed bumps, and and it's also not to change the subject, but it is very difficult for us when we come out of our cul de sacs.

We're having the same problem with apartments with the parking. The park cars are coming from the apartments by Wintershall used to be, and the ones behind Home Depot, they're coming into our street. And they're doing the same thing, leaving their alcohol, trashing the place, the streets. One of my neighbors has to go out and pick up the stuff because she walks her dogs, and it's the same thing too. Like, could people just drive too fast?

They don't care. I'm one of those people that would go and yell at my neighbors, keep it professionally, but, I had one guy who was going 60 miles an hour in his Tesla. He thought he was entitled, so I'm very protective of my neighborhood. I stay up till 2AM because I got nothing better to do. But I am very I'm kind of like the neighborhood undesignated watch. I see what goes on. I know what everybody drives. And it's just each year, it's getting worse and worse. People don't care. They drive them too fast, going through this red signal.

Even the bus drivers are ridiculous now too. They don't pay attention, and we've always been hit by them too as well. But another quick thing is I was wondering if we could, get, like we have some corners that are painted reds, so they can't park there, so it's easier to see. We have other neighborhood cul de sacs that can't see because the people from the apartments are parking into our street, and it makes it difficult to see coming out. And some things need to change. It's just ridiculous how how crowded it's getting because there's, like, 10 people to an apartment, and they're coming into our neighborhoods. And that's all I have to say. Thank you.

Thank you. Up next is Norma, and then after Norma, we have Vera Mader.

Hi, I'm Nora Walcuff. I've lived in the neighborhood for twenty two years, and like you said, there's been a house that has been hit with vehicles three times during the time that I've lived there. I like the plan of the Arrows. I think it's great because there's been several times that I've wanted to turn right off of Briardale onto Tustin, and I can't because they're going into my lane. And I know they have the right, but they actually don't have the right because the green light doesn't really tell them that I also have the right.

So I think the arrows will definitely help. I don't care about the five second delay. Life's too short to be hit. I've been re rendered on Tustin, and it's not a fun thing to do. But they're just speeding down Tustin.

So I like the arrows. I'd like to know more about the permit because we have a lot of apartment parking that are coming to our street. And when you have cars on one side and cars on the other that don't live there, two cars can't go by. So it's really tough. So you really have to be watching what you're doing even just on Briardale.

So and it's a curved street. People speed down it, so permits would be great maybe in the future. Future, maybe. We'll see. So I just want to let you know that I think it's a great idea with the arrows. Thank you.

Thank you. And up next is Ryan, and after Ryan, we have Janelle Cavie.

Good evening, counsel. My name is Ryan Helms. I just wanted to say it sounds like a great plan. Ultimately, wanted to just reiterate how important the westbound into the neighborhood down Briardale is to keep closed through traffic. And other than that, I think it's a great plan. I do agree with the other statements of possibly permitting in the future. I do worry about spillover onto Lincoln app Lincoln Street, but for a future item. But overall, I like the plan.

Thank you. Thank you.

Up next is Vera, and after Vera we have Janelle coming.

I'm Vera Mader, 1774, North Lincoln Street. 31 And A Half Years ago, I approached the city and told them how bad the traffic was in my neighborhood. And after a two and onetwo year fight with the city, they finally got this implemented, what we have now, thanks to Ami Bahadore and Harry Thomas. It was a solid line of cars from Lincoln, from Tustin to Lincoln, and Lincoln to Taft. And I'd have to go out in the middle of the street and block everybody so my hubby couldn't get out of the driveway.

I had six cars hit and run, one being totaled. And since the implementation, I haven't had any hit. And the mayor said, well, why are you parking in the street? I said, I'm protecting my house because I'm the first house south of Briard Dale. My hubby and I had the Texaco station where the Shell station is now, and we have to advise our customers how to come in safely, and it worked.

There are only a few of us left in the neighborhood. The rest are new neighbors, but they've all joined us in fighting to keep this as it is and to go with the new idea. And they're helping a lot, and I appreciate it. I have 20 kids that live five houses from me either way on both sides. Thank you for protecting Lincoln Street, Riordan Hill, Shattuck, and Nordic. I thank you for your concern.

Thank you. After Janelle, have Cindy Ellington. And you are Janelle? Okay. All right. Cindy, you're up. And then after Cindy, we have Bill Chavez.

Hi. I'm Cindy Ellington, and I'm one of those new neighbors. I live just two doors down from Vera, and I'm really here to support Vera. Whatever Vera wants, I'm in support of it. And I know her main concern was about the fear of opening up Briardale again, but I could tell now from listening more carefully that's not the issue.

But I do want to say I like the idea of the signals because I'm new to the area. When I first drove up on Briardale, because I live on Lincoln, towards Tustin, I didn't realize that when it turns green, you can't go straight. I really didn't know that. I'd never really had to turn there, but I think it would help a lot to have those signals. I also want to add the second pitch or maybe the third about having some permit parking on Briardale because there are those malls on Tustin and Briardale. There's two on each side. There's a lot of overflow parking. And whoever said it, it's true. It's it's a little bit of a maze. It's a little windy road.

And when there's two when there's parking on both sides and they're packed, at night they are packed, It's really hard, I mean, especially at night to really see carefully navigating Briard Ale in particular. So permit parking would be great. Thank you so much.

Great. Thank you. Janelle? And then after Janelle is Bill Chavez.

No.

Didn't take you off.

I still passed.

You still passed. Bill, you're up.

I'm not exactly a new resident of Briardell. And thanks to Vera for her work in the past in helping to manage the traffic on our street. I will say that people that go across or come to that intersection of Tustin And Briardell Taft, a lot of them don't know the rules of the road, and that is to begin and start your turn in the same lane. And those that are making the left hand turn onto a test and going southbound, they just they wanna get over to Taft, and they don't care whether you are turning right or so so they just there. There have been many times that I've been at the intersection turning on to Briardell where people have gone straight across the intersection.

It happens frequently. We have lots of visitors, in our home, and my wife is very careful to tell them, make sure that you're either going left or you're going right. Don't go straight across even if you see someone do it because it happens all the time. Regarding the parking, I'm going to address that as well because I have been after the city council for years. And I've spoken to the mayor and whoever will listen to me about the parking on our street.

I know for a fact, that my neighbor owns lots of apartments over there at, behind Home Depot. He tells his residents, you can't if you don't have parking, come over to here to to Briardale. He directs them there, and I've spoken to them. And I ask, why are you parking here? They say, well, because my neighbor my landlord has sent us here.

We have to deal with the businesses because my house is the second house, especially Marty's Bar, which I've complained, to the city and to ABC and, again, whoever will listen. But we deal with people who come after they shut down. They're drunk. They are loud, they fight, and they disturb the peace. It happens all the time.

They urinate on the walls, and leave their trash as others have complained. Many people speed through the interstate through the street, even if they've made a legal turn or whatever. And we have delivery trucks. We have the businesses. They deliver their they bring an 18 wheeler and park it there on the street and unload their goods. And I know that they've got to work, but somehow they need to

Thank you, Mr. Chavez.

You. Thank you for listening.

Yes. And thank you, Peter.

All right. With that, there's no more speakers on this item. We'll go ahead and bring it back to the commission for further discussion or a motion. Go ahead, Commissioner Kannerman.

I actually personally, too, I live in the area, so I actually drive through the intersection almost every day going one way or the other. And so I do think that the arrow would be very beneficial. One question that I had for staff was in the plan to turn it from two direction changes to three and treating each direction allowing each direction to go by itself. Being a resident in the area, I know how congested Tustin can be and how an additional light change may actually impact the flow of Tustin. I could see very much a benefit of adding the arrows to the intersection.

Has there any information or indication as to what turning two changes into three would do for the flow of traffic on Tustin?

Yes, Commissioner Hamilton. As Martin alluded to in his staff report, we looked at the intersection performance with and without the proposed changes and it would perform, the intersection will continue to perform at the same level of service either way. Just that during certain times of day there might be a couple seconds more of delay for certain movements. But that's just for a couple seconds, maybe during the peak thirty minutes of each day.

Any other questions? No. We can't take We can't have you discuss anything with staff right now. We're in the middle of discussing the item here and making a motion. Sorry about that. Anyone else have any other questions? We have a first and a second. Any other discussion? Seeing none, I'm bringing it back for and ask for the vote. All right.

With that, the motion passes unanimously. All right. With that, we'll move on to adjournment of the meeting. Go ahead and adjourn the meeting, and the next regular city traffic commission meeting will be held on Wednesday, 04/08/2026 at 05:30 in Council Chambers. Thanks, everyone.