Township Board - Regular Meeting

Okay. Like to call the meeting to order. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. Amen. Roll call. Everybody's here. No one is absent. Public comment. Kim. Yes, sir. Am I the only one? No, but I'm just calling on you. You're number one.

Not number one, but thank you for what you do. Um, I just stopped up to say hi, introduce myself. Most of you probably do not know who I am. I'm Kim Cole. I'm currently the sheriff down in Mason County. Uh, been with the sheriff's office for 41 years. I'm in my fourth term as sheriff, but I'm here today to say hi and introduce myself as a candidate for uh the Michigan State Senate. Bumstead will be turned out at the end of this year. And uh I decided to step up and try to run a little bit about who I am. I'm a fifth generation Mason County resident. My great greatgrandfather Henry Cole served in the Michigan Regiment with the Union Army during the Civil War. Following his service, he walked the shores of Lake Michigan and settled in Summit Township south of Letington, which if you're familiar with our area where the pump storage plant is, that was a family farm. He was a fruit farmer for many years. Longtime public servant, he was a county commissioner. He was a township supervisor. He even did two two-year terms as the county sheriff from 1899 to 1903. Um, I'm a Lington High School grad, West Shore Community College grad. I married a girl I met in high school. We've been married 38 years. I have two adult children. Um, Drew and Casey. I have three grandchildren. Uh, Reagan will be four in June. Kennedy will be two in September. And March 27th, I have my first grandson, Lincoln. So, yes, I have a Reagan, Kennedy, and Lincoln for grandkids. So, uh, I'm incredibly blessed. Um, a little bit about my service as sheriff. In 2017, I was, uh, the Westshore Community College Alumni of the Year. 2020, I was honored to receive the Richard H. Austin Lifetime Commitment to Traffic Safety Award. 2021, I was chosen as the Michigan Sheriff of the Year. Uh, five sheriffs nominated me for that award. That had never happened before where they had five sheriffs nominate another

sheriff. 2022, I was the president of the Michigan Sheriff's Association. 2023, I was asked to serve on the National Sheriff's Association's Board of Directors, being the voice of Michigan's 83 sheriffs on a national level, and I still hold that position today. On the national level, I serve on the Border Security Committee and Traffic Safety Committee uh for the National Sheriff's. Locally, I serve on the Mason Oceanana 911 board, the Mason County Historical Society board of directors. I'm on the Lakeshore Children's Advocacy Center board, Leeward Drug Coalition board, I'm on the medical control board for Mason County, the Child Death Review Team for Mason County. And I share that only with you, not because I'm a super good guy, because I'm I'm I'm really not. But, um, on these boards, you have to have some very hard conversations. And I'm not afraid to have hard conversations with folks. It's tough when you got to sit in a room with someone and explain to them the death of their child. I don't think it gets any tougher than that. So, um um I initially said no to this opportunity to run, but in 2024 as a sheriff serving on the Michigan Sheriff's Legislative Committee, the state of Michigan chose to cut $300 million out of school safety. Uh that money had already been approved. It's about a 324 million. They took 300 million away from our school kids. That eliminated school resource officers, mental health couns, a school official, a mental health counselor or anything. They took the money and that's not acceptable. So, we need people in Lancing that are willing to come back and listen and actually talk to the people that know the boots on the ground and that's what I'm willing to do. So, I'm just here to say hi. I apologize. I got a bolt. I got a hold of your supervisor yesterday while he was I was texting you while I was at his commission meeting. So, I was kind of a little dirty there. But anyway, uh when he told me it was today at 4, I actually got a 5:00 commitment in Lington. But when I I asked him, I said,

"Hey, man. Can I just be 15 minutes late for my event back in Lington?" And they said, "Sure." So, you'll make it. I don't know about that. Oh, yeah. You just go a little faster. Just say that out loud. Driving that 2017 Jeep Wrangler. I'm not going fast. Just going with the flow. Anyway, I just wanted to come up and say hi and I look forward to uh representing all of you folks uh in Lancing in 2026. So, appreciate that. Anybody want to ask real quick question? Anybody have a question for me? Other than the issue you mentioned, which sounds very very important. What other uh issues are would be your priorities?

Yeah. So, affordability, accountability in Lancing, you know, my son makes $23 an hour. Um he lives in Spring Lake. He works in Grand Rapids. He drives 35 mi one way to work. And two years ago, 3 years ago, 23 bucks an hour wasn't a bad wage. But when gas is four bucks a gallon, it's a struggle, right? And he lives in a two-bedroom apartment uh in Spring Lake. He was paying

three years ago 18 $1,100 a month for a two-bedroom apartment. That's went up to $1,800. So, we got to figure out a way to put money back into the pockets of our of our folks that work here. And you're not going to do that by paying everybody $35 an hour because the price of everything else goes up with it. So, we got to figure this out. We got to have some tough conversations, but we need affordability and accountability in the miss. Great. Thanks, Kim. All right. Thank you guys. Big trip back. I'm sorry I got a bowl, but I promise you I will be back up here. You'll be up here. You'll be walking in a parade. I will be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right, guys. See you. Anyone else for public comment?

A couple things. First, I'd like to thank the clerk for making the packet available on before the meeting. That's really, really helpful. Okay. Informative. Thank you. Uh I wanted to bring back to your attention the uh fence that snow fence that had been around the unpermitted down that's all falling down again. So there's summer I'm sorry I'm thinking over here. What you talking about? The casino at Porch Point in I was thinking the casino down here. No longer existent casino. There you go. Thank you.

And I mean I don't know what's holding that rotting wood up, but there's a drop off. A stairway that just goes down in their basement. Well, it's like an accident waiting to happen. So maybe when the fence guy comes for devote, he can take a look at that. I'll have I actually call I'll call Jody tomorrow and see what should be done there because that's probably under something under wall planet. Well, the other issue I wanted to bring up uh is also related to zoning and uh you know just to get to the point with regards to Hanford construction. Mhm.

Uh I I what I would ask the board to do is to make a request to the zoning board of appeals so that they could make a determination whether or not it's the the zoning ordinance permits the attachment of a pole barn to a dwell. And I would say if it does, okay, fine. If it doesn't, I would think Mr. Hanford would need an after the-act variance. Uh if it is permitted, I would suggest that we change our zoning ordinance so that it is not just just in general.

Okay. So, I I can answer maybe, but but as far as I know, breezeway between the two is allowed. Now, I could be wrong, but we'll run it by Joanie. We'll let her answer. I'll let her look it up. There are there are some specific language in the zoning ordinance where you know the two struct this the attached structure has to meet all of the standards for a dwelling which will hold bar. Okay. I'll ask for sure.

Well again ask well you'll see but I think it's a something that zoning board of appeals should take a look at. Well, we'll run it by her first and then see what she comes up. Sure. Thank you. Anybody else? Go on. Go on. Go on. Anybody online like to make a comment? No. Okay. Now, moving on. Approval agenda. Anybody have anything they were wanted to add other on the agenda? Yes, we do need to add um approval of the laser fish purchase under new business or old business. Uh new. Okay. Unfinished business. How about that? Okay. Anything else? I think and these are both the lady fish.

Mhm. Okay. Okay. Done. Well, thank you. About minutes approval for the regular board meeting minutes of March 18th. Anybody have a motion, changes, corrections, additions? Perry. I'd make a motion to approve the minutes from the regular board meeting in March 18, 2026. Motion made second. That wasn't this. I prefer that. Second by. Okay. Any discussion? Being heard, all in favor say I.

I oppose. That's carried. How about the approval of the special meeting board meeting minutes of March 25th, 2026? to approve those minutes. Okay. Is there a second? Second. Second. Any discussion? None being heard. All in favor say I. I. Opposed. That's carried. Uh Mr. Dance, welcome. Howdy.

Busy day. Barry. Uh I'll give you a quick recap at yesterday's board meeting. Uh Rachel Nelson, the county treasurer, came before us with the quarterly financial report. Nothing riveting there. Uh she did also mention though that there were 20 parcels that are going into tax foreclosure. Uh seven of those parcels were vacant and uh and landlocked. Two are actual PREs and from one individual. So it's uh she is always the treasuries reach out and try to make sure if it's a PR that it's you know she does with that anything goes foreclosure but that number of parcels is up significantly but 20 out of how many thousand is not a high number by any stretch but it is up from the past few years. Uh we have uh we authorize some ballot proposals. Dialer ride is up for one vote, a renewal plus a quarter mil increase. So I suspect you'll be getting some info in regard to that and watch your local paper. Uh Council on Aging is up for renewal and also the library is up for a 1 mil renewal. Uh equalization report, I need to get a little bit deeper into the weeds. I need to find out. I'm sure there's going to be a headly roll back. our uh actual taxable value increased 5.41% 41%. Uh the annual for the state was 2.7. So there's no question there's going to be a roll back of some sort. I just don't know that number as we are here today. And uh and they also board authorized me to sign the L4037s that will be going out. That was done immediately following the meeting. Kevin

Hughes from district 10, not on Kevin Hughes, uh came before us and gave us his annual report. They are down 40 positions from a prior the prior year. Uh their funding was hard to come but it finally has come back and has came back in full measure. But mentioning that I also need to mention that he says their funding has been flat for the last four years. So that's kind of what what they've been dealing with. But they are down 40 positions from where they were. Uh Mark Sandstead uh came before us for the Dune Amphitheater. It's about a $4.5 million buildout and we gave them a letter of support. Also, he was before city council last night informing them of the process that that they're going through to keep them updated. But that's uh $4.5 million buildout. And then hopefully we're trying to get some earmarked funding for bathroom facilities there as well at First Street Beach.

That's going to be at the beach. First street. Yes. between the lower level little parking and the upper where the rotary park parking is. Did I that well down lower where the boat launch is? No, no, no. Between the pier. Yeah. Oh, between the stub pier and the south pier

is probably as good a way to describe it as any. But the concepts are it it you I don't want to say you hardly know it's there because you'll wonder why would you spend four and a half million bucks and not know it's there. but it's a unique design. It's facing the lake so that will shelter and it's a concrete pore. It's not something where it's going to be block work or stick built. Um it'll obviously catch a little bit of sand in the winter time or any time of year as far as that goes, but it's it's a unique build. Looking forward to seeing that. He is well on his way to getting it funded. Very Yes. So, the sound is not going to be going up into the neighborhoods if you have neighbors who are not in favor of listening to music, which

how big is that? Uh, seating is 2,000. It'll be open on this end. What happen on the lake? So, when they have a concert at night and all the sun is really bright on the It'll be into the band's eyes, not this, not the audience.

Sunglasses. They wear sunglasses anyway. Anyway, there you go. Uh Parkinson's Awareness Month is something we do annually. Uh we signed that res pass that resolution. Uh the jail, the sheriff has had to make some changes with the medical uh delivery process. There is what I'll refer to it as. And we had to make some fastm moving adjustments. and we have it's called uh advanced correctional health care. So we we've uh given him the blessing to do what he needs to do to make sure he has ongoing medical uh professional medical assistance in the jail starting September or April 28th through September 30th. And we'll we'll get back into our budget, our fiscal budget here. We did uh update and pass the OV ordinance again for countywide OV ordinance. Uh I don't know if I've mentioned it here or not, but Allan Edwin Homes is perspective building 101 units across from the jail, right?

Yes. 101 units. It's I want to say somewhere around 26 27 million buildup. We have a substantial brownfield gift tip involved in that. The county brownfield will be receiving around $2 million over the 30-year course of that. Uh originally that projection was for the final five years of the tip that would go to the Brownsfield Authority, but it is not. It's going to we are going to start receiving at year 10 and then every five years after that we will get a hit. So it gives us a little bit of money to reinvest in the things that the brownfield can reinvest in. So is that for sure going to go through? I mean,

as I always like to say, Dave, it's nothing but a good rumor till I see construction. Okay. Where's from the hospital? Right across from the jail. It's more across from the jail than it is the hospital. To the north. Yes. Yes. Um houses. Did he say what size? private property. It probably was or maybe is. I'd have to look to see who actually owns it. It probably doesn't have that actual name on it, but they might be part of the investment group. Then you get into yesterday and today. Oh, wait. House size. No idea what they said doing. They're doing like 12,400 square foots or No, you don't.

It's a It's a wide variety. some duplexes, some single families, uh some rental, some for sale. Uh it's a absolute managerie of different things, even one five- bedroomedroom home, which is that's kind of unusual, especially in a large development like that. So, it'll be interesting. Hopefully, it it goes. Uh there's other news on the housing front that I I can't share with you as of yet. But again, the big story today is Hybridge is closed between Bre and Wilston. So from Chicago Drive or Avenue, I guess we call it Chicago Avenue.

Yeah. To River Road. River Road we just closed today. uh MD dot suggested because of how Bear Creek is hitting the bridge, it's hitting the bottom of the structure and until that water subsides enough to where it is no longer at that MDOT recommended us closing that. So that happened freshly this afternoon. Uh we had a I guess I'll refer to it as a landslide off of 21st Street that was covering the rail grade down in and that's right on the line between Manaste

and Filer Township. So I actually went and took some pictures of that. I'd like to have gone way down to the rail, but I sure the heck wasn't going to go down that one, especially with the ticks out and not having the right foot gear on. But at any rate, that was something to see. pretty pretty substantial slide. Uh Price Road, the road commission, I suspect we'll have that back up by the end of the day today. Uh back to Highbridgeidge, no damage. We don't know. We suspect the bridge is probably going to be fine, but the road I just came from there. There's I'll refer to it as sloughing to both sides of the road and it's going to possibly need to be rebuilt. This is not going to be any quick little fix. This is going to be a substantial hit financially. Uh 13 mile this afternoon we closed and I think it's between Big Four and Healey Lake and it was water was flowing over the road there as well. Um I just saw coming down here Milarch has got a slough on the east side.

So that is a onelaner. That one really surprised me.

Um been in the loop a lot. We I we had our standard 911 meeting today, regular board meeting. I'm on that board. I asked the sheriff to join us along with the road commission manager and Brad Laxo who was the foreman with the road commission. They came in needed to make an informed decision on it. We wanted to designate a state of emergency for the county. That falls on my shoulders. Decided to do that. I signed that early afternoon today along with other counties have and state police are aware. It's gone through the channels. We've sent out an email from Lisa Seagulla, the county administrator, to all the local units to let them know that we have declared that state of emergency. The driving force is the hit the road commission budget is going to take. They can't afford these kind of dollars. Uh who knows what it's going to cost to get uh hybrid back in the game. It could be substantial.

They were working on that for the last year, right? I I don't know where they're working on hybrid, but I can also tell you the other one that washed out is Johnson Road where Bear Creek crosses. Three culverts and it's gone. The road commission believes they will force them to put in a bridge. If that's the case, and again, if that's the case, that's going to be out of use for a long time. Could be a year plus. If it's a bridge, it's probably going to be I wouldn't be surprised if it's not a two, threeear deal. I would like to see an emergency situation where they don't get into that game and they throw in some larger emergency money. They're not going to be able to there'll be no projects for anybody else other than just fixing.

Well, they've got contracts with others to get things done. No different than what they have with the township. So, there's commitments that have to get taken care of. But again, these are emergency situations and you you you make that state of declaration of emergency. So you access funding. So hopefully we get something. I when I get back home, I'm going to inform Mullenar's office along with Schlot Slotkin and also Peter's office of what's going on here so they hear it from a local mouth, if you will. So at any rate, it's been it's been quite a day. Uh, and with only having two places right now to cross the big manasty, that really changes routing for a whole lot of people, including school districts. It's it's a major inconvenience at a minimum.

Anything else, questions? Could you repeat the name of the developer for the housing? Edwin Allen. Edwin or Alan? No, Alan. Edwin is what it is. Alan Edwin. Yep. Thanks. How many units are in the apartments? Any idea? When it's completed, 288. 144 in each phase. Cool. You're talking Riley. Apartment complex where the old Kennedy was, right? When will that some of them be available? This year? Uh this this year they're going to have some opened up hopefully by later summer. Looks good. So,

anybody else? If not, thank you, sir, for showing up. I'm sure it was a busy day, as they say, right? It is more to come. Okay. All right. See you guys. Thanks.

Hey, so Mastic County Road Commission Manager, obviously Keith is not here and he wasn't going to make it. He told me I saw him this morning and they're involved with all this that Duck just brought up. So, he not going to be here. So, uh, couple things I'll just bring up real quick. Our chip seal, he sent the contract. I think I gave it to I put on your desk, Jennifer, or did he say? Okay. The contracts for more money than last year for chip seal. Not because the rate has changed at all there. The company's honoring the same rate per square yard. It's because there was a miscalculation of how many yards we were going to have. So Keith went through and measured all the roads widthwise that they're doing and then calculated the yardage, figured out that we were short about I think it's 50 grand, isn't it?

Well, they had estimated the chip seal was being our share was supposed to be 295 and I think the new one is or do we have the new one? I don't have any.

Okay. So, he's going to send it. That's the old one. So, he was going to bring that. Okay. So, I'm sorry. So, that So, what I'm saying is he's going to present that, but it's going to be higher, but not because the rate has changed. It's because there was a miscalculation in the square yardage. Also included though in the new figure is uh the turnaround area for each point. And that is because Vic found a paper that actually from how many years ago when the royal commission sign from the um DNR trust fund grant of about 2014 uh where we did all the upgrades at Langland. They accepted ownership of maintenance of that park or that parking lot.

Nice find, Mr. Pratt. Yeah. Saved a little money for you. But and then I brought that up at the meeting. Unbeknownst to me though, he had already now gone in however research Heath did, he had included it in their part. So there was two things. So that worked out perfect. So I'll have that for next month. But but just be aware that it's going to be higher based on that. They honored the same price. Just need more. Just need more more yardage. So is there a percentage that you're charging like out of the total savings commission? Yeah, we're not going to talk about that. Finder fees under under Okay, we don't want to talk about that. Give you a coupon on your propert.

We also have a bid, but he didn't have a chance to relook for graveling Lake Side. Oh, yeah. Okay. That was done by the previous road commission manager. Lake Isle Avenue. Yep. No, not Lake Isle. Oh, Lake Isle runs east or north east and west. The one drone along the lake is lakeside. I think that's where they were going to put in that slag and Yeah. All that kind of stuff. Yeah. You can actually here. Give it up here. Yeah, it's fine. We'll take care of it. Thank you. Would you? Yeah. Thanks.

If there's any issue, I'll call you back. All right. Thanks. Okay. You're welcome. So, I don't know how much we want to talk about that because I don't know how much how much they're going to be able to do till they sort this thing out with everything they've got going. You send that to us. I don't I don't have that one.

Oh, okay. Maybe that made it. Okay. Maybe that was the other thing he was bringing today. Okay. self. I told him revamp it because there was a lot of u engineering work like in in the estimate that was done last year and it wasn't done by the bro commission. was done by some firm which would lead me to believe that we probably don't need all that much engineering there on that road but okay I have it somewhere above maybe it's not but that's why that's lake uh lake No it's Lakeside isn't it no the one that the engineering firm did is Lakeside yeah that's the one we're talking about that's the north side Lakeside Avenue from Lake Isle

and that is in Okay. Right there. Right there. Right. So, if you look at it, just seems awful high for what they're doing. And he agreed, but he didn't have a chance to look at it. And that's what he was going to do for today's meeting until we had all the rain. And I'm thinking he has a little They're not this not being contract. They're not going to get to this. We have to decide. I don't know. And that'd be a question they'll have to answer next. I I would be surprised based on the conversations at the meetings that if there's something that under contract, I don't believe it's going to get done. Okay. I really don't.

Yeah. The chip seal is an outside contractor, so that's not a big deal. But if it's something over there for us, but I I hope they can finish the recycling and that's kind of a big deal. Well, here, let's talk about that. So, I don't know now if they're going to have time to do that or I'm going to talk to them tomorrow about do we hire somebody to do that outside of them because they might be too busy with their equipment. Right. I don't know. I can't answer that part of that. Bad idea. Definitely a consideration. So, I'm going to go talk to them tomorrow and see if in fact they can even see that on the horizon. If they don't, then we should probably get a hold of somebody. Otherwise, if we wait, then no one's going to do it.

Matt can get trained up on that equipment. Yes. Really? He wants I would be I would love to drive equipment, but I would run a bulldozer. I've never something like that in my life. Payload. We tried. We had all kinds of opportunity. I can do that, but I think they're going to let me run it. Amen. Anybody that runs them today, it was always the first time. Yeah. Yeah. So, is there anything helped you out? What else we talked about doing? We really didn't talk. Well,

he would like to not chip se I'm sorry. He wants to chip seal it, but he would like to pave the area from Potter Road going what? Then make the curve and come back to 13 mile. Oh yeah. So, what he wants to He said that is not fit to just chip seal. That pretty beat up. It's pretty beat up. So I told him to give me a estimate for that about they would still chip seal it because he said that helps build this road in layers as opposed to just putting a cap on it like to chip seal and come back and pave over

and pave over it and I said we'll present that to the board. So that's probably still in his thought process. So I think that probably will be about as much as it would be to do Wake Kyle. Maybe not quite as much. I mean twothirds of that or Lakeside will to do that. Okay. We'll see. I mean

so we'll get them something here before the next meeting because we can move ahead. So I I just want to point out the the millillage that the township has and because we're a half township and we don't have a ton of paved roads, we are able to do so much with the road commission and we probably have the best roads in the county and this chip seal is just going to extend the life of them. So we're really fortunate to have that I think and um I think we're we're showing that it's it's you know a good value for the taxpayers I guess. Well, if you ask if you ask them, it would tell you we're the top rated roads of any township in Manaste County

and the preventative maintenance how they explain fixing it prior to a certain stage where where you have to pull it all out and redo it and it's millions of dollars per mile or whatever. I don't know anyone that can do that. You know, there's just not the funding. Well, that's up for renewal this year of fire. No, not fires up too, right? Fire road. Correct. Correct. I would like to compile a list of all the work that's been done since the last millage renewal. Oh yeah. And put that in the summer tax newsletter just factual. Here's here's what that mill did. So I'll work for you guys to get that. Have some of them coming out. We can do that both for fire and the rules. Yeah, probably.

I guess a lot of people don't know about the new stuff. I think a lot of people don't know we have a new fire truck and how much it cost. Yeah. Probably have no idea. Okay. Yeah. Anything else other than that? That's what I have for his report, I think. So, um, assessor, I'm going to move up because Rich is here representing Molly. So, I'm going to absolve myself actually from the thing for five minutes if I'm going to make a call. You would run the meeting.

Sure. Please. So, Great Lakes Assessing's contract is up um in end of this month, right? Yes. So, they have proposed a new contract. You want to talk about it, Rich?

Um the contract is exactly the same except for our per parcel rate is going from 17 to $18 a parcel. That hasn't been changed in I do believe seven years. um with increasing that uh and then in year three there'd be a 2% um cost increase after that. Besides that all services would remain the same. Uh we have we do not we set our partial count on the first year of the contract and we do not increase partial counts every year because you your township does get quite a few splits and that would increase the partial count. So we kind of stay with the original partial count of the first year of the contract and move forward with that. Uh we do that with all of our countships. So any other besides that all the services will remain the same.

I just want to make sure you guys are maintaining the special field that I need to use for my special assessments. Yep. Thank you. Anybody have any questions about the assessing contract? I would move we uh enter into the new agreement with Great Lakes Assessing. All right. Any more discussion? All in favor say I.

I opposed. Motion carried. Okay, next item on the agenda is financial reports, right?

Yeah, financial report. So, I the balance sheet and revenue and expense report and monthly invoices were in the packet. I know if anybody has any questions on those, those were um as of March. However, there's always a bunch of adjusting journal entries that have to be done um at year end and both have obviously not been prepared yet. Um we have the accountants come in and kind of get ready for that and then shortly after they are done and the auditors come in, but um yeah, we'll be working through some of that. But anybody have any questions on the on the statements at all? Not.

Okay. Uh next item is the treasures report. Um, I' point out that we're still getting about 3 and 3/4 on our uh, investments, which is very good. Um, the 27 budget obviously was adopted. Um, we still have some people calling about property taxes, but um, they're at the county now, so they need to contact county if anybody's wondering on that. Um, new tax bills will come out um at the end of June for the 2026 summer taxes and then um yeah, that's all I have. Any questions on the treasures report?

Okay, clerk's report. Report. Once again, reminding you we have an election on May 5th and your polls will be open from 7 am to 8 p.m. Um, we do have community cleanup day scheduled for Saturday, June 20th. It'll be from 8:00 a.m. to noon or until the bins are full. Um, it will be in the location that it always is. It is on the same Saturday that it always is for years past. I have now discovered as soon as the snow piles melt, the taxpayers freak out about when is community cleanup day. So that is there. It's on the website. It's been on the ona community connection

connection. Uh and I'd like to remind taxpayers that if you show up at 11:55, don't be surprised if the trucks are gone because they do sometimes fill up. Need to come early. And also, we've had some very nasty things try to be dropped off a trash day, including bins of dirty diapers that people's garages over the winter, bags and bags of household trash. That is not what this event is designed for, and it's likely you're going to get turned away if you have that sort of thing.

So, please be respectful. It's volunteers that are working that. And, you know, it's to it's to clean up reasonable things. And I have had some questions from people who live outside the township wanting to know if they can participate in our cleanup day. And so then that sort of generated conversation. Do we require proof that you live? Do we just feel like we know everybody who lives here? So we'll be like, oh, you know what? There's always and it's really difficult to to check that sort of thing. I think we just do it like we have.

Okay. So that's fine. I just want to make sure it was answered. Um, we have had a couple of cyber attacks here. Let me rephrase that. I guess I would say there were really fishing potentially attacks um that we were able to spot here in the clerk's office and turned them away. Uh, when I reported one of them to VC3, I'm like, I'm pretty sure this is bad. He's like, oh yeah, it's real bad. Good catch. So, um, also I have, um, an individual coming tomorrow that's going to review some of the cemetery with me and see what we might be able to do as far as having a better, um, system of keeping track of who is where and um, where new um, I don't even know how to politely phrase it.

Occupancy. where there's availability. I guess I'll say future availability.

Yeah, future availability uh and some things like that. I'll be meeting with her um tomorrow. And then um we have had a request from networks Northwest has been going around all the different counties making presentations about um child care and child care needs um with respect to zoning. As I explained to the gentleman who's heading this up when he first started calling, it really should go before the planning commission first. Um, and that our planning commission doesn't meet until April. And I received yet another urgent email from him saying, "Hey, we really want to get on board. He really wants to meet with the township board." And I explained to him since he's asking for zoning changes, planning commission has to be involved. and that's the first step in it. I think the board would be open to a joint planning commission board meeting if he would like to make his presentation. Um, but I'm going to pass that on to Mr. Wallace and let him decide if

the summary is going to go to the planning commission or who knows. Okay. I wasn't able to get him to say why and he was not willing to accept yes, it should go to planning commission first. So, okay. Just so the community is aware, there's going to be a large daycare center opening up where the hospital is at, where the old education center used to be for Lusher College. I think it's like a hundred kids. And where is that? Wow. On the east side of the road. No, it's on the south side at the actual hospital where where you remember where the West Shore There's a bunch of class education center used to be. It was kind of off in the front there. Yeah. Right there.

That's being transformed into a dayare. And I believe the gentleman from networks Northwest just did his presentation either to the city or the county like just in the last week. But so there is I mean that's moving ahead. So that's I'm sure there's be a lot of demand for it obviously too. But

yeah, I think their whole gist is trying to get communities to be aware to not exclare facilities and residential areas is kind of what their tactic is. Um, our absentee ballots have been out now for a couple of weeks. We have about 42% of absentee ballots have been returned. Um, we issued 395 absentee ballots. For the May 5th election, there'll be an election May 5th, folks. How many registered voters do we have, Jennifer? Do you know? Around 1500, all US citizens. Absolutely. Absolutely. And we've been doing some little clean up with our voter roles. not the answer.

Uh we saw that couple of individuals have put in requests to resend their PRES and so had not yet changed their voting information. So we've taken them off the rolls and flagged them. We have about 28 voters that are on an um address verification notice. Now that's done by the Bureau of Elections. Not us. Nope. They've already sent out the initial saying, "Hey, you haven't voted in forever. Do you actually live here?" is essentially what it is. But it's a multi-step process and they initiate it and then the individual has so many days to return the card and said, "No, no, no. I do actually live here. I just sure does not." Yeah.

So once that goes through the process, we may lose a few more people off of our voter roles or we may find some folks that want to actually vote. So that's it. Oh, no. It isn't it. Mandy and I are going to be going to a two-day clerk camp next week up in Traverse City with the Michigan Township Association. So, the clerk's office will be closed Tuesday and Wednesday of the next week. Ready? No, I'm done. Questions? No. Fire department. We have a report.

We do have a report which came in this morning and I do have printed copies for anybody who would like to see them. have been forwarded to email to our board members, but I do have some printed copies here. Make it into the packet. They were out today u with I think with the drone taking pictures for the road commission. Correct. They couldn't get to to turn in. Oh yeah. So Rob told me they were him and Col were going out on the agenda. So public service noticed friends don't let friends burn catfeld. Yeah. Where was that one at?

The end of easy street. So that was Saturday. Oh yeah. You called Saturday Sunday. That is correct. Saturday. I get a call. I have an shut off and I get a dozen calls. But I got out of my thing and went, "Oh my god, what's going on?" So Mr. Tenant started a fire. Oh jeez. Um, next to the house to burn I guess some cattail they had piled out and the wind started blowing. I don't know if the wind I don't remember was blowing apart but it was when it started the fire. Luckily the wind was blowing that way towards

Yeah, because there's a bunch of stuff piled up next to Keon Keegan's house that did not catch fire and then and the fire went that way. So, um, it ran out of ground, but we could, we still had, I don't know, five people there for Yep. Shelley called me when she couldn't get a hold of you. And then, yeah, she was under the impression that a township official has to report it to dispatch and she couldn't get a hold of you. So, I called dispatch. Well, I'll try. I called dispatch. Dispatch was very confused as to why I was calling and I said, "Well, now we have a record. Somebody's calling."

So, they sent a sheriff deputy. They sent two sheriff cars out. The sheriff then called Eagle or the de I don't have his number here. Uh I think it was DNR. So the DNR officer showed up. The sheriff department showed up before I left. The sheriff was writing a ticket. I bet to Mr. Penn. Okay. Well, and I do know the township intends on utilizing our cost recovery. Yeah, they were there quite a while to put it out and it's gone. And we own the property that burned up.

Not that what what extent. I don't know that if we can, you know, it's fall. It was cattails. I mean, it'll regrow. So, I don't a regenerative burn. Yes. Unplanned. Unplanned. Got something to go with all this rain. What's good? That stuff was like like tinder. Like oh no, it blew through there in no time at all. Fire before all the heavy rains on Saturday. Yeah. Saturday. Wouldn't burn long now. I bet you in a couple months it'll be it'll be greened up. The cattails are gone. Well, the dead part.

They were probably the invasive ones. Darwin said something to me and I was just so it was like he was some about driving a tractor across our property to get over there. He was going to dig some up and I just said look at I don't want to talk to you today. I'll just I'll just leave and everything will be good. So I left. So I don't know what happened but I don't you know it's up to the board. I I don't really know if there's anything we could do or even want to do but maybe a letter just saying please don't burn our property again. I don't know. probably be good coming from the fire chief. Yeah, it might be a good fire chief then. Okay, I'll ask you. Okay, even though we have a really nice fire truck just assume not have to

Well, I don't think so either. So, uh Harbor Commission each one of you in the application for Aaron Powers. I would like to join the harbor commission and if you would approve it, I take a recommendation to make it March 31st of 28th. So two year two years. Well, we've got we'll have six people and then we'll have two each year that Oh, I see.

Okay. There's no requirement that they live in a township or anything, is there? No, but he does. That's got an East Lake, Michigan address on there. I know, but he's I think he's living. Oh, East Lake. Well, I don't know if there is. I don't think so. Uh he works here. He works apparently for own. You should live in the township if you're going to be on a board. Don't you think? Some of them are a substantial property.

Planning. Yes. I would say planning and then but I mean like the invasive species committ

well but the lake is in more than just our township. So I can see that right the lakes come up the holy even that far side. Oh okay. Yeah. Uh I can't answer that question. broad cross-section of community interest as well as members with special expertise in areas of boating, marine, fishing, natural resources, marine area and similar fields. Doesn't say anything about being a town. It's actually marina experience is what he's got, right? So, I don't see there's an issue with that.

I just wanted to double check. I couldn't but there is no as Okay. Sometimes volunteers are few and far between. What's a high paying position? Yes. I think it pays zero, right? Whatever Jim pays. So you guys are talk to him and you think it'd be a good addition, Jim. Excuse me. You think Aaron would be a good addition? Yes. Motion by anybody? I'll make a motion. We appoint Aaron Powers to the Harbor Commission to a term ending March 31st, 2028. Is that what you said? That's what I heard.

Two years. Second. Discussion. None being heard. All in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. Carry. Anything else you want to uh get on? We from tomorrow. There'll be three of us going to Grand Haven for the Harbor State Lovers meeting under the court. make our yearly appearance and put in for more dating. Okay. Yeah. So, water level I it was I know it's not it'll change a little. This won't change it believe it or not that much probably but in the short term it it's coming up. Yeah. Okay. But we're still down from the high like five feet. Yeah.

Okay. Probably four or five. Okay. The beach is beautiful out there right now. 20 stories high. Yeah. Lot of sand blowing, but I've been walking that, you know, from Langorn down towards like the sunset house. That's really nice. It's like Daytona Beach down there. It's wide nice flat. You drive down there or just walk? I just walk. See, now that's illegal. Been there down there? It's illegal to drive on the beach. Yeah, it's Michigan Avenue. It's Yeah, it's a road. I'll let someone else. We'll have Dan out. See what happens. Okay. Anything else? I don't know.

No, that's it. We're still trying. Still trying to get a plan from Fiser to that meets our criteria. Okay. plan for the DNR in paving. What's the issue with spice? Well, they they've been listening to the DNR. That's a problem right there. Right.

So, they've been making their design docus with them and I finally called Spicer the other been two weeks now and I said, "You're actually working for the township." Well, we're not at the DNR. And when I proposed this project, it was basically to do the drive from the road around and connect to the kayak launch paving and then the p I paved the parking lot area that faced each other in the center. Not on the exterior. And well, of course, the core or the DNR wants everything they can get.

Yeah. But they're not paying. Correct. Well, they can have anything they wanted if they paid. But what happened? They came in double what we had. That's what we got was 180,000 because because they've enlarged or changed that much. Traffic pattern had side parking spaces. you know, tell them to do their own dance project at some point. I mean, it's like one thing to kick your to kick a gift horse in the mouth. Well, put it back designed the way we originally had envisioned reasonable and affordable. No, it's not.

And then they were doing their specs to MDOT. What? And I says, I don't believe that they don't build any of these other roads around here to specs. They have Who's the engineer doing the work down there? Shane. Shane is Yeah. So, he was going to go back and change the specs from MDOT and he was going to redo the drawings to incorporate the way we wanted it. So, so was Shane actually doing the work? Was that other gentleman that was in the meeting? Um, yeah.

What did you want, Pave? And what did they what did them or what did Eagle when it comes off the I can't remember what that road name this So the driveway and the loop, right? The dragway and the loop and then those parking areas that face each other in the middle. Yeah. Towards the bathroom. Yeah. Right. These ones right here. Yeah. And those right there. Right. But not this. Not outside the on the exterior of the ring. And they wanted all that pave. That would double if it's Yeah. Like total the area. Yeah. Cuz they had a lot of fill they were bringing in and they were And I says, "What is this?" Well, then he told me he was MDOT specs. I said, "I don't think you need to do that." So, is the dean put any money up? No.

No. Right. No. Maybe they can pay that part of phase two on a future capital project that they do. Well, I told Shane to tell them that if they want anything additional to that, they just pony up some dough. Tell them they're going to pay for it. So, you need a couple turtles to drop off over there. No, then they couldn't pay. No, they're talking about paying the swamp. That's why they need that fill. Will will this get paved here where there's these two spots here, too? Because they probably probably should try to work that in maybe. Which ones? Is that next to the head right here? It's got a weird diagonal. Yeah.

Feel like that should get paved. Is that what you mean? But cuz it's cut it cuts off right here, right? Mhm. That's a bone in the trailer. What is that? Well, I if that if if that's not included, I would I would recommend that that not over here, not not on this part here, but this part right here for sure. There's two spots there. Seems like that would be good to be done maybe. So what? You stopped them. Are they going back to the original thing now or you don't know? Or is it the

I talked to Shane two weeks ago and he was going to get it right out. Well, I didn't see anything last week. So I called him on Monday. He said he'd been out of the office all week last week and he was going to get it out this week. Well, I haven't received anything yet. He was going to revise because I told him I says, "You're planning on not doing any work until September, but the way you're going, we won't get it done because you're going to be done. You won't be done yet." I said, "I'd rather have it done on the shelf waiting for bids." And uh so I don't like anything this week. I'll give them another show next week.

Okay. Is that it? Other than an answer to Ed's question, yes, the proposal has that area pave that he was talking about. Okay. Right next to any It does. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, Ed's parking spot is going to pay. Oh, so now move your boat off there. Let them pay, but then you can park your boat back there. Okay. Uh, parks and wreck. Beth,

okay, it's that time of year. I got a lot of stuff to take you through. Very little action, but just to keep you informed. You know, we're working on the five-year plan. Our survey is complete. The county survey is now complete, and they gave me an extract of the responses from all the people from the township and the village. So, I'm going to put that together uh for our team to meet again. Um and then we'll use that uh as sort of our finalized goals objectives and uh the projects for the next five years. As far as the county deliverables, we have to do the description, the administrative structure and the DNR grant history. I gave that to you last month. So there won't be any changes to that. But at our next meeting, we'll finalize the goals and objectives. And then we're still working on the recreation inventory. So that's five-year plan. Uh the Glen Park DNR trust fund request was submitted on the 30th, one day before the deadline and with the approval of the minutes today, uh we have now uh passed the administrative hurdle. So, we're now going into quality assessment, and in the event that uh Jeremy thinks this is something she can sell, we'll be working with her for the summer months just to to nail it down uh for when we get into the actual decision period. Um, Glennon Park, we got correspondence from a gentleman saying that we have infestation of um, hemlock woody

elder something like that. Say it again. I won't say it again. Ha. Woody elen. Yeah, you that like started invading Man.

So, yes, it is. It is in the county below us, the county above us, and it is uh uh it was found on a piece of property called the Beaver property, which is sort of southwest of Eds and north of my place, but G. Charles Cena now owns that and they've done mitigation, so they think they've got that resolved. Um Josh and the guys were not surprised. Um but it's a little bit of a concern. So, we've we've contacted uh Northwest M Michigan Invasive Species Network. They did a site visit on the 9th. I was with them. Um they told me we have over 500 pound blocks in that park.

So, in the event that we would have a problem to devastate that park. So, it's important. But, interestingly enough, they found absolutely no of a none. We went to the actual GPA or GPS location of where the guy found it. Yeah.

None. Pristine. So they said rather than just walk away, what they like us to do is take aerial photos and we can work with Grand Valley State University who's using AI uh because they can now look at aerial photos and determine from top whether or not they think you've got this. So my son has loaned me his um drone. I wrecked it on the first time. So I'm practicing. You could ask Rob to use the fire department one. Oh, does he? Does he have a That's very They have a good operator. You know how to

So that's great. I'm glad I brought that up. Rob into a fire. I'm coming to talk to you. Uh so we'll take a bunch of pictures of that. We'll work with invasious. So this is like oak wilt or something almost. I can show you a picture of it. It's a It's a some sort of uh fungus. Is it a fungus? Something like that. Yeah. little white dots in the bottom of them. And it's interesting because um I mean is it a bug? No. No. It's an algil or whatever that is. What is that?

Dan, you got nothing. Back to the next. It's a fungus with legs. I mean, is it an animal? I don't know what it is. I just know it is bad. It's an insect. Okay. And the reason it's called woolly is because as it's feeding and infesting it looks like basically like little white kind of looks like spittle actually.

So we are we have the invasive species network involved. Rob is going to provide me the pictures. We're going to work with invasive species network and GBSU and they'll do their analysis so we make sure that we stay on top of it. So hopefully we've got that under control. And the interesting thing is we the arcs and record received a letter from the sky with GPS coordinates of where you found it as

and a picture of a infested uh branch and the people from invasive species network said this is really strange because that is an extraordinarily impacted branch and we find nothing. So we don't know what's going on, but um the only next step just in case that maybe it's at the top and you know a branch call down is to do the survey from the top. So it can be sprayed or something. Yeah, there's there are treatments for it but unlike emerald ashbor and some arrows that are this you can this you can right

but invasive species network said that to treat that park would cost $10,000. Well, you know, our budget is five grand for the year, and this did not show up in last year's inventory. So, if it's there, it's brand new. And again, we can't seem to find it. Um, but we'll work on that. And then if we have to do something, we'll come back to the board because we were going to use the 5,000 to attack different spots at the various at the various parks. So, anyway, we're working on that. Um, Langland bathroom open today. I checked it's open. Uh the blow sand has been removed to the parking lot. It is parking lot is full of sand off in one corner. So we need to decide we're going to do with that. The commission does have responsibility for maintaining that. Um I'm just not sure how quick they would get there, but I I'm not sure what the board wants to do, but we need to get rid of it. They have always gotten rid. It's not a favor. It's their obligation. They would generally dump it right behind the bathroom because there's a big hole there, but that hole is now full. So, there's no place to put it. Um,

they don't want the road commission holding water, right? Well, they can use 2,000 yards of film. They build it next year, but they might need it now with the bridge. Yeah. Well, they're going to be looking for dirt. You tell me that. It's in a dump truck. We happen to have a pile. How much is there? Yeah. A lot. A lot of a lot of t 100 yards. Yes. Is there that much? Oh, yes. There's truckloads filled right up. They're big truckloads. At least three big truckloads. So, 30 yards, 40 yards. Whoever talks to the road commission um I can I can talk to them, but I don't know anybody there.

Well, the interesting thing is big. if they're responsible for normal maintenance of that. Wasn't that normal maintenance? Yeah. But what did who who dragged the sand away? Did we pay a contract to do that? No, no, no. We we moved the what's called the blow sand. The sand that's on our walkways that were able to legally move off the walkways onto that. That's what that is. So all the sand that blew onto the parking lot still there hasn't been moved yet. It's in a giant pile. It's in a giant pile to the north end. Everything. It's really It really looks nice. It's just in a big pile at the very north end of Langland. The road commission did that. No, no, no, no. We did that. Our contractor does that every year. They

That's what I'm asking. Yes. Why would that not be a road commission responsibility? Because that's a maintenance item. The parking talking about our walkways and bringing parking lot in general. parking lot. Scott, did they scrape the parking lot, too? They scraped the parking lot. That might be a road commission thing. Yeah, I probably could add. It looks really nice. What? Whoever Well, did a nice job. It was chalk full of sand. Well, yeah. I mean, every the lower the water goes, the more that sand blows up. So it was a it was a big So what I'm saying is if anybody needed some sand, they could come and take it because there's nothing prohibit them from doing that.

They do it neatly and well neatly. I mean don't spread it all back over the parking lot. Yeah. I mean the parking lot looks great right now. So the road commission doesn't want it. Would Mr. Haru be interested in it? I'll find out. I'll ask Keith. But I mean I I would like if they do it for free. Otherwise, I think it is the Royal Commission's responsibility. The vast majority of the sand has came from our walkways that we pulled up onto the parking lot. I mean, there was some sand that blew along the edges. So, yeah, we did some of their work, but the I think by and large with their mainly awful lot of sand on those walkways.

Oh, it was above the rails. Well, yeah. I mean, right now the the sand is above the guard rails. way above the guard rails. So, so guard rails are coming in. Yeah. They they used to be able to get equipment in there to that they can no longer get in there because guard rails are coming in. So, we're going to have damage unless we can get eagle to allow us to get in there and clear some of that stuff. So,

when you walked out there, as you're walking out, you're maybe this far above the four foot or however high wooden railing. So you're standing on at least four to five feet of sand. One of the things you talked about in the past is doing a uh doing a permit for mechanized treatment because a shovel is not reasonable and then when they say no then we raise it to I started doing that. It's a huge pain. Um so many it's like the one that you talked to me about Dave all questions that they had. uh this gentleman that did the uh grant for us knows how to work with those sort of government documents and I'm thinking about asking him if he would begin working

I think we need to do that it's time yeah it is because we're going to lose all the infrastructure there and you know the new eagle guy who is all about leaving the sandunes as they are doesn't realize that when we wrote this um DNR request we specifically said we need to keep these two clear so that people don't go everywhere and ruin the dunes. So, by keeping these clear, we're actually doing what they want us to do. He just doesn't want us to do it within our walkways. And I that's that's just not reasonable. So, that'll be something that we begin to work on. At the rate they shuffle people around with agencies, maybe they'll move on. No, no, not now. We got all young people

and the problem is no one's outside the using the book. No one is outside. They just look at the book and if it's code number whatever that's what it says to do that's what you shall do.

All right. Next thing on is the ADA pathway manufacturer uh was supposed to visit this week but his house is underwater. He lives along the river somewhere in north central Michigan but he's going to visit next week. I'm going to probably have Anony's with us uh just to make sure that my guesstimates for how long the walkway is going to be is somewhere near right because remember we have a we have a MCCF uh grant that's under consideration at this point for that. Okay. North Point Fitness Stations. Uh that was approved in the budget. Uh there's a gentleman named Kevin.

Okay. uh a fitness nut that's all about all this kind of stuff. And he volunteered to kind of walk us through this. So he and I walked uh North Point and made the decision that with only five stations, uh we would be better served not to have one here, one here, one here, and one here, but instead have them in a fitness area. And the area that we chose is as soon as you go into the parking lot, uh if you look left, there's a flat area between where the well is and where the wagard is. That is perfect. And what that does for us is when people pull into the park, they immediately know, hey, there's a fitness thing there as opposed to never figuring out if they don't go for a walk if you happen to hear your hair. So that's what we've decided to do. Jennifer, we're going to need to if we haven't sent out the um lawnmowing bid to add another like 50 by 50 spot to that. Um in our budget request, we have enough to actually do it, but I asked uh MCC up for another $5,000 because then we can do it and we can make it ADA accessible, which I think would be very cool. So, um we're moving down that path. I'm going to talk to um MCCF because you know their rule is you can't spend a dime until we say yes. I want to find out how long does it take them to say yes on these $5,000 ones. If it's going to take some time then I'm going to change my request to an ADA access request as opposed to bundling it with the whole project. So

So to answer your question on the $5,000 they commit to letting me know within 45 days. Okay. And I want to have say they couldn't do it sooner, but they commit.

We did. Okay, that's good. I'll push Sarah a little bit to find out because I want to get this in there for the summer and then Michelle wants to use it for um the 30-day challenge which will happen in July. So that's that's uh North Point. Uh, oh, and then, um, for your consideration, uh, Michelle had asked me about, um, using Instagram as a way of notifying people of things. I have no knowledge of Instagram, said, "I have no clue." So, she sent the request that Jennifer, Jennifer sent uh, decided sent to the board. Michelle sent to you. Uh, I defer to you guys um on whether we should have that. uh she thinks it's a great way to communicate with the younger family or younger kids. We have Jean who does Facebook and then I do the web. So, and Michelle should be online if you add any questions. Um she'd like to have Instagram as a township parks and Instagram.

Can we clarify one thing? Sure. So, one, the township doesn't have a Facebook page. She's doing Monaco community. Correct. That's correct. two, the fire department might have a Facebook page. I don't know. They do have a Facebook page.

So, I am a very strong proponent of have if we're going to have a presence that it needs to be an Ocula Township presence and whether it's Facebook or Instagram and everybody uses the same thing. So, you increase the volume. I honestly I don't believe the fire department should have their own Facebook page first link. I don't think that's appropriate, especially for a township our size. So, that's a different topic. But if we're going to go down the path of having an Instagram, I think it just needs to be an ONCA township Instagram that and everybody can use it and you know, one or more of the board members need to have administrative access to it as well. So, I'm I'm in favor of that, but I just want to we probably need to draft some policies around that. Um, but I think that's a good idea because people do look to that stuff.

Sure. want to have that come up as a regular item for next month and talk about it and actually or you want to do it today and say you're she would create it as a township Instagram account. That's that's the plan. Uh and Ed's right. Our communication through Facebook is not Township. It is um Jean as the community connection. Bingo. And they do they do that as a favor to us. So, this Instagram would be a township Instagram. I Michelle, if you're on the line, answer the question. But I think it's a township. She maybe got parks and wreck, but we can make a township for sure.

I can do whatever you like. Yeah, maybe you and I can have cws.

Yeah, I think you probably like it sooner rather than um May 1st is when we start actually opening up registration. Um but that's you know we've opened registration many times without Instagram. So, you know, I'm I'm fine with meeting. We'll I'll be in town for the parks meeting.

I I suspect strongly suspect we're going to need to have a special meeting between now and our regular meeting in May um with regards to the millillage. So, we can have a special meeting and include that too, which gets her a little ahead of the next regular meeting. Yeah. You think we should have a policy for that meeting to talk about? Policy policy. What's the What's the What's Well, I'm trying to get Michelle a couple of weeks earlier than our next regular meeting and I already feel strongly we are going to have to have a special meeting between now and then. Michelle, how long does it take to set some up? Minutes.

Yeah, minutes is what I'm told. No, but we want to be able to link it back to the web page. I think we've got some placeholder uh favorite icons and stuff. So, yes, we do have the ability to put those on there, right? I mean, I would be good to consider.

I would add one thing that when I had this discussion with Jean, she emphasizes that she does not have a Facebook page. She has a Facebook group. And since I'm not on Facebook, um that is apparently a difference. Whereas, um El Taylor's ona uh one one commoda was a page. She's just a group. And somebody there who's on Facebook might know the difference, but um so I don't know if Rob has a page or if he has a group for the fire department and whether these have to go together.

No, they don't. And it feels like we we need to have some conversation with Rob to kind of clarify how that evolved and what have you. Um it may be something that requires further discussion. Maybe Caitlyn have that conversation. Yeah. With Caitlyn. Um but I mean I'd be I'd feel comfortable kind of moving ahead if you if you'd like to do that now. Not to deal with a special. Well then let's have a motion just a conference. Yeah. Someone make a motion for that. to that effect. I I'll move that we go proceed with establishing a township Instagram page support. Any other discussion? We want to name her starting to do it or not?

Yeah, sure. I'll work with a website. All in favor say I. I opposed. That's carried. Thank you very much. Go ahead, Michelle. I just said thank you. Okay. Thank you, Michelle. Thanks very much. Um, just uh the first events on Michelle's schedule is the birdwalk which is 4:18 and then our cleanup day which is May 16th and people can sign up for those on the website already. I'm in the process of cleaning up the website. Um, and I think that's about it. Okay. Questions?

No. Wow. Give a quick update. No trails. That's right. I forgot the trails. No,

you got no information. Nothing. I did have a call uh today with Rick from FNB. Um they have some new renderings and they went back to the drawing board, revealed things and now um everything that they have done is contained within the rightway. Um and so I would like to I'm going to skip I'll see how I talked to them just today. After the meeting I'm going to send out an email to the trails team. They're going to have a meeting.

Try to have a meeting maybe this month if we can sneak it in. Um it my guess is people will really like it, you know, from what I've seen in just a little bit today. However, um he had a chance to talk with um people from MDOT and they're I mean they're they're held to a certain kind of they're not like well they they have some some standards of what they consider a fundable project. And I think what's going to happen is this is something that is acceptable and fits within our

what we have but is not necessarily going to be a top tier fundable project. So you know let's have the meeting. So we'll have I just want to update you guys on the call meeting uh go over it see what people think. we can have the continue on and we can apply for a a tap grant. However, the the likelihood of that being funded is not real high. Well, it's if if MDOT's not willing to play ball, then you can do it in phases and you can get fun. Yeah. And that's recreation. And that's the other thing I wanted to talk about. If this is something that people like, then we want to move forward. We talk to the community and then we start one fade at a time.

Yeah. One fade, one piece at a time. Okay. Maybe it takes the next 100 years. I don't know. That's what I'm hoping not. But it's roughly about $4 million. So quite a bit. Even even with doing it within the rightway. Yeah. Well, close. Yeah. Well, again, it's a lot of it is coming around the lake. That's all protected. We start on this side. Yeah. Yes. I mean, where it gets the most of the traffic. You're right. That's yeah be a little less. So yeah, that's all things that we can. So

before I forget that lady called me and I think of her name. She's got a heavy accent. She's out at the point and looked at the ramp. Must be the angle. She was wondering if somehow we could change the angle of the moy mass because it's too steep. And I'm trying to think how you could even do that. So here's the dilemma. uh we have continually the mountain is growing.

So it means your starting point and your flat point continue to get further apart. We made estimates of how much money we need to actually get it down there and keep it at a slope that meets ADA requirements. And so yes, we want to make that as 10 degrees or less if we can. The problem is to make it 10 degrees or less, even a higher starting point, means that we have to go much further out. Meaning that the $100,000 or the $80,000 that I estimated for this full bill may become $100,000 because in order to do this, you got to do that. It means it goes further out. So, it's a dilemma that we have. Uh when I mentioned that the manufacturer is going to be coming here next week, I'm going to have him here at the same time that I have Anony's here. We're going to walk it together and we're going to talk about those various things because it's slope for ADA versus the distance and how much it's going to cost. And I don't know what our end solution is going to be, but how would you change the angle?

Huh? How would they change the angle? By spreading it further out towards the lake. I mean, the only way I know to go from here to here, if you do it in a short distance, you go like this. If you do it long distance, you go like this. That's the only thing. I mean, I'm not an engineer, but it's like stairs, you know. No, no, I understand. What supports that? Let's say you have to sit right on the ground. Well, it can sit right on the ground if you change the angle. Yes, you can. It's David, you should go out there now. It's all sand. And when you get down to the beach right now, where you're off of where the uh all the grass is and such on on the walkway down, it's 4 feet down to the the bottom. I mean, it it's it's like a ramp that goes all the way down made of sand.

Take a look. Naturally. Yes. Yeah. Okay. My own question. Naturally. Very natural. Extremely natural. Never mind. I'm sorry I asked. Okay. We're moving on. Evvasive species. We had our special meeting. Approve the contract. We haven't had a meeting since. Okay. I just want to reiterate I was impressed with the new lake man presentation I gave. administrator. We're doing good work. Okay. Planning Commission report. We don't have anything, do we? Commission hasn't met since last year. Correct.

We had a ZBA meeting that was for O'Neal's. Was that after our last meeting or before? Is the BPI still on your guys? What plan? I haven't talked to the committee chair, but I'm going to assume so. I have a meeting this month. So, I've not received an agenda. So, Mr. Norbeck's comment about the casino. I don't know if that would be a planning commission issue to look at or Jody. So, I'll bring it up with Jod, but it may be a planning commission.

To me, there's a if there's a the fundamental question is they have a permit in place, use permit. There's violations of that. That's our zoning administrator or our enforcement person. It's not the planning commission. They're not making changes to the thing. So, they need and to me they need to understand what they're allowed to do and what they're not allowed to do. Go out, investigate it, and come back with a report. Well, I'll turn it over to her. I think to me, that's how that should work, unless I'm mistaken on that. I don't know why the planning commission would be involved in enforcement stuff. Well, I don't even know if it's a it's in See, is it a violation of I guarantee you it's in violation of something. It's not safe. So, it's something they code. I can believe,

but potentially there could be a blight issue with the township or a nuisance or there may be standards in the in the special use permit that address that, but I mean, it's been down for over a year now and it's it's really a problem. Well, there's there's a stairway that you can see from the road that just goes down. I will give a hole to her tomorrow morning and run all that by her. So, I'll be glad to do nail an extra board. So, are we already did the assessor need, right? Mhm. So,

we're just we're just doing getting ready to do there's a there's kind of a new law. So, we're going to go do all these field checks. Okay. So, we used to you do 20% a year field checks, you know, and she'd send a card out and if you called in or wrote back and said, "I do not want you on my property," we would abide by that and not go on your property. Well, now they've changed it so that someone has to be home. So, if there's nobody home, you can't look at the property. Jeez. So, all property, right? So, we can only look at it from the road

or Google Earth or or Google Earth. If there's something that's built there and you can't measure it, you Google Earth and measure it, you know, which doesn't have very much. We pretty much caught all those. There wasn't too many here anyway. So, what law change or is there a policy? No. Some of the states said you cannot assessors can't do that. So, you can knock at the door. If no one's there, you got to leave. Is that comes from the state tax commission? I think so. Yeah. Those are just guidelines, suggestions. They are exact get the assessor. We're going to follow them because a lot of people got they got kicked. I mean, you know, we get rung all the time on these doorbell ringers that

cameras. I scared the hell out of me last year a couple times. I didn't know there was a camera even up. We're measuring the house and people are talking to me. Someone says, "Hey, what are you doing?" Who's talking to me? There was a camera out here in the corner of the house. I never saw it.

So, you got to be aware of the fact we knock, we leave a card, we do all that. This one was new construction, so we we were entitled to be there anyways. But new construction is different. They give you permission when they sub out the land use permit. You are given permission and township officials to access the property because of that reason. But for normal checks that doesn't apply. So that's going to make a difference. So we're not sending long story is we're not sending cards out. Save the money because if you're not there and a lot of people here they're not going to do three strikes or out like if they're not there.

No. one time and you're done. We'll move on. You can look at it from the road. You can notice generally you can notice you have a sketch in front of you. You can notice if the house looks different anyways and then you can go back. Yeah. Because you spent a ton of time going back. You can't you can't do that, you know. So

So Dave, I didn't talk to Jody yet or to Katie yet about um the contract and some of that stuff. I'm planning on doing that this month before the next meeting. But if you talk to her tomorrow, this compliance report that I have up on the screen that Mike does, it's like cut and paste month to month to month to month to month. So I I guess I think it's another example where they need to be out here more often. Katie's aware of that. I don't know if if that just might not updating this or if they really haven't been out. But for example, 3316 11 mile road says they've made improvement. There's continued monitoring. It's a it's a junk pit. There's more stuff there now that the new bow has brought in more stuff. It's like they need to be it's time to enforce instead of giving them, you know, I I'm just the point is I don't think they're in the township enough. I sound like a broken record, but

okay. So, I you know, I can discuss that with her when I talk to her. If you're if you're talking to them tomorrow, they they need to make sure that they're actually doing stuff and not just saying saying, you know, it's the spring. Yeah. Well, you can see all the crap, right? It's a perfect time to be driving around. You know, we've got we've got Mr. Joseph up on Erdman Road who's got a huge mess and that's not even on the report anymore. I don't know if they they dealt with that or not, but Okay. Um, I drove by that this morning twice already. I didn't I didn't drive slow and looked. No, I didn't pay attention. You know, I can drove by. It's just Anyway.

Okay. Well, you're going to have a conversation with her. Well, I need to talk to her about the contract and I can I can I can mention this if you're going to talk. Yeah. No, go ahead. Mention it to her. Okay. But you were going to talk to her about what? I'm talking to Jody about three things. So I got Porch Point in Hanford House. And what was the other one? Guess there's only two things. I think she's checked on some stuff in that house already. Is the building inspector there looking at this prime construction? That that's all aok. Okay. And the uh scabbing 2x4s on the top of poles is okay. Well,

can't see it from there. I can't say it's not not okay. I don't know. Well, I think part of the answer she was mentioning is that there's something because of the water table. Oh, he's he's got a he's got a thing from he's got a thing from the health department that his system is not up to code. They red flag. But did you send did anybody send those pictures to the building inspector? Yeah, he's been there. So, that's an acceptable construction for a pole. Okay. All I can tell you is I've been to Amish buildings and they've all passed. Does the building inspector check those? Yeah. Really? Buildings. Amish. I didn't I just Oh, do they ever show up? No, I don't know about that.

Exempt like forever. They're not exempt. They just don't they choose not to to pick a fight with them. Yeah. The state I don't ask me. That's de facto exemption. Yeah. That's like an egg. The houses are not to code and they don't have an occupancy permit yet. The new guy is saying unless the house is 100% done

like there's a piece of siding missing on the outside, he won't issue a occupancy permit cuz I know we had a couple builders got in discussion with them last week and that and people are living in the house. They said, "Well, they can't live in the house because you're missing 10 pieces of siding." Which one of them said, "You been to the Amish houses?" And that didn't go over so well either, I guess. But but true, there's two standards. Yeah, there are. So if you were a troublemaker, want to just go buy a brim hat and pull from then don't do anything and see what happens. Got to grow a beard. Well, no, only if you're married. Oh, but if you're not married, you don't have to have a beard. I'll talk to Katie about the contract. Talk to her. I'll talk to her about these other two things. Okay,

you're up on all this stuff. Mr. Hanford's deal is so he put in a he has a permit to do a system. I read the permit. I asked Frank to send it to me after in fact he red flag

and it said a mounted system. Steve who is the expert on his own system put the system in. It's higher but it's not above ground. It's it's you know it's not it's above the water table but it's not what he said was permitted which is an above ground mounted system right so he started telling I went to see him the other day I started telling me all this I said if I was you here's what I do tear all that out and do what the permit says to do and don't come and ask me to help I can't you know the health department started telling me the health department this and that and I said Steve it's not my fight I'm just telling you're not going to get anywhere by arguing with the health department just put them out of the system.

Everybody's against them is how you every every agency is. Yeah. Well, that's probably true. Here's the other side. Appears to be some truth today. Here's the other side of that coin. 50% of the systems around the lake are basically illegal according to its current standards. So now you he has to do something that Well, he's new construction. Yeah. Okay. But they didn't do anything when all these systems were basically underwater. When we had high water, all those systems were nonfunctionable. You know how they've dealt with it? They covered their eyes up. Right. So now his system is way above I'm just telling you it's way above what was the water level and he's looking at it differently. Not that he's right. Right.

I'm just telling you he's not what it's not what the permit says. You know, he needs to fix it. I just told that. So I I'm not going out there anymore. I did my deal. Everything's good. It's got a nice house and a nice pole barn that's connected to the house. Which is which? Well, I don't know. I know. Okay. The one closest he's being specific. The one closest to the driveway. It looks very similar. They do look similar. The house is the first one. The second one or the one? The house is the one closest to the

drive. It's the one thing you did do. Right. Right. So the siding on the ground is the one with the wood foundation that's it's permittable I think building and he's covered it with the plastic. Okay. Okay. That's the house and the and the garage part that's attached in construction is bigger. I don't know if it's bigger than the house but it can be up to one and a half times the orbit told me it's 1,200 and 1,800 exactly. And where does the restoration of the wetlands have to happen? Well, this year maybe. Could he use some of that sand? I'm gonna ask him that tomorrow. You want to know the truth?

Well, he's there. He might as well haul it. I don't care. He can fill the wetlands. Yeah. He has to restore the wetlands. And I don't know what he's going to do with the sand. He doesn't need sand. Yeah, he needs sand because over by his building, his building is higher. So, he's got to fill in that one side of the I bet the road commission have it. Well, I'll ask them first. They they might come and grab it all up because they are going off base going roads. We've done roads, haven't we? Seal coat, grab all L. Yes, I think we have at multiple points. Recycling. Well, let's just go back to I don't think we should. We need a new proposal for the silicone, right?

Correct. We need a new proposal for that, which you're getting, right? Correct. And then we need to find out if there's a proposal for lakeside if that's even going to happen. Then we need to see what the total cost is to figure out if that's going to work. I don't know where we're at numberwise. We'd still be way okay. Sort of. Then we still need to do the recycling thing about who's going to do that. That's a be that'll be actually a more major thing because if they're not going to have time and they're using all their equipment fixing all these spots, we might as well find a contractor before it's too late. Yeah. because that kind of put a kaibosh in that whole thing by this change that whole thing and I haven't talked to a contractor because they were going to do it.

So now who do you fire as a contractor? And then what's the saying going back to zoning? What's the status of the DVO fence? Is that guy going to come and put it in? I have to call him. I called Mr. Dvau. I asked him if he was going to finish his fence. I did that on last Friday. He told me that he didn't see how he could possibly get his fence done because they had other problems like a big hole in his roof where three trees went through had tarps on them and it before he got it covered it rained came down in the house and he ripped up his I don't know woodwork and carpeting and something else and I didn't go look but apparently on the backside I don't even know where it was. Where's

it looked like it was on the front because maybe there's stuff around the back too. There's some on the the west side, too. Yeah. I mean, there was a lot of big trees down out of port 20, too. Holy mackerel. So, he reiterated the fact to me that he was probably u behind on that and he's dealing with his house issue. And in fact, he still has a hard time because Mr. Gazan hasn't cleaned up his part of the yard. And why are we picking on him again? So, refresh me, Cindy. Did that ever get addressed by the planning commissioner, Jody? that you're aware of. Did that was that considered to be ancillary uses for the marina that are allowed or

I don't think Jody was ever involved, but when Mr. Gazan was here, my recollection was and Duncan had agreed that they would get things moved, but it's worse than it has been. Seems like that's my last recollection. All right. So, I'm gonna I'm gonna add and and the bolt lifts out there, as was said, are not like Mike claimed them. Bob was going to get rid of them and scrap them and Mike said, "No, no, those are all my lifts." So, you got all those Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Well, as long as we're making progress toward defense and then I'm going to talk to Katie. I'll add that to my list about enforcement on the plan on the PPI.

That's fine. Yes. Okay. Well, you're talking to him about the Maybe you should talk to her about that because if you're talking to junk magnet the casino, you might as well talk about the ball diamond. If they have if Katie and Jody haven't looked at that as an enforcement issue, I think they need to Okay, I'm good with that. Okay, back to roads. No recycling. I I do but going back to roads, I do believe we can do all them if the road commission can do them. The problem is can they do all that work? Not the money part of it. Yeah. Should we assign somebody to check with the road commission to see if they can do the site prep for the recycling? I'm going to do that tomorrow morning with Keith. Okay.

Well, the good news on the recycling is we now have a baseline from which to judge whether there's any new styrofoam back there because it's all gone now. Where'd it go? You see how the creek is? Oh, you mean the creek that way? Oh, I shouldn't laugh. So, it got recycled. No. So, I got pictures last week. Was that a current picture that I saw? It was posted on and I have no idea. How do you know that? Because I've been over there. It's all three, four times a week and I do not see anything coming across the park. It had all winter for stuff to blow. So, I is that possible?

I don't I think I think that it's a it's much to do about nothing. I mean, it's bad that there's any stuff getting in there, but the amount of stuff that likely is is very small and it's going to get moved. So, I think Okay. So, what I'd like to do then is we talked about doing this last year, putting up some kind of short fence at least in the interim on the county property that maybe would catch some of that stuff in that wide open area. My thing would be to put some posts in and only be up about four feet and just get some 4 foot not chicken. I guess you call it chicken wire. Why don't you get snow fence? Plastic snow fence cuz it's got big holes in it. No, it doesn't. Got holes in it like this. The plastic stuff is small. The orange. They also make

Let's put a green. What about the wood L snow? That's something. I do. That's a lot more attractive than orange. It's like a Well, they make green of that smoke, too. Yes. A beautiful forest green. Well, I have some I would donate some of that. I have some of that. It wouldn't take but then you can just pound in those 10 post 10 10 fence post probably by by five footers. No. How tall snow fence club? You're going to want a six foot.

You're going to want at least six foot apost for sure. Well, I mean I if if we've got the ability to do that, I think it would be a good faith effort to show, you know, we're not ignoring this. But I think No, Jeff said it was all right if we did it last year. They got the okay to do that. I'd do it if someone helped me do it. We just go by the post. I'll bring the tractor down. Just the figure D. We'll get down there. Matt Matt Matt and I will come down help you, Dave. You will? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I want to take I want to drive your sac for the new Instagram.

I push the reason I say the tractor because I pushed when the lions had their fencing put up in the park. They asked me to come down but they were trying to pound the post in. I said let me bring a tractor down. What are you going to do? I said push them in. It works. You just get someone to hold the thing and take a bucket and push it down. So I got to go down a couple feet. And I'm sure that's what over. Okay, so I'll figure out how many we need. What? 10 15 feet of 10 feet apart. I would guess probably don't need 10. Yeah. And the only time that really gets if the wind is

and it only needs to be that area between the two drives and a little bit up by the building. And then hopefully that if that curtails 50% of it, it would be good. Yeah. Yeah. because I don't want to keep reading about it or someone call me on Facebook and yeah well the sooner we can get the thing set up at the road commission that okay I agree just okay recycling PLA community collaboration report that was uh Joe right yes Joe had a meeting today so he I talked to him at noon and he wasn't going to be apparently there's lots of room for improvement in what community collaboration Yeah, there's a big list last time.

Yeah. Did I miss the list? That's when I had no power. Was there a list? Oh, I long one. There was a list. I got that. No, never. Okay. Very long. New business. Community yard waste center. Correct. This was an idea you wanted brought forth before the board based on one of our taxpayers. That can go next to the recycling. It could. Is that is that enough of a memory jock for you? No. Go ahead. I don't remember. So, you had an individual from the community uh in

Oh, that's right. Y a place to put scrap met not metal, wood, clippings, yard stuff. the compost it like have a community compost leaves brush where you cut some down and they don't have any place to dispose of it a place on township property somewhere maybe which wouldn't be a bad idea except that who's going to police the thing well I can tell you they have issues in Arcadia with their site because people dump stuff there and people have to go up blocks probably

and the other thing is at some point when you have something like that. If the state finds out about it, I believe you have to get it permitted. I don't know if it's a volume thing or threshold thing and stuff. It's something we need to look into before that. Although I will say lots of people drive a purple raft and dump their yard waste over the banks and as they do round about some of the uh property that we have particularly off Gear Road. Yeah. So, is that a yes or no? Do we want to look into it? We don't have a motion. No. No. Is there Is there Is there enough? Do we want to look into it? Do we not? Do we I I would I don't want to take that on until we get the recycling situated.

Yeah. Because maybe if the recycling thing was up there, it's big enough, you could have it. Yeah. Somehow there and it it turns into a disaster and then I'll I'll say that's enough. I don't know. Ask the road commission if we'd be allowed to have The village dumps all their stuff at the sewer ponds. So if you go in that road off of Milarch Road, they pick up all this debris and there's a big compost pile in there. But they do it. It's not No, no people are not driving. If we had it, you might have to say like there's a certain time that's open so somebody's there to watch then nobody's as you post that then that person goes, "Oh, that's the only time you're there. That's good. I can bring my stuff up and just dump it.

I just like you see trailers with little cement blocks. Well, we could talk about it some more today. Washing machines. Well, that recycle center actually goes through with the county doing all the other stuff. You could have all that stuff. Computers, washing machines, refrigerators. Where is that going to go? At our recycling center if it ever gets there. If we ever get the money. Where's that? What no up if we actually got money. Yeah. Is that allowed in the agreement? The PA isn't it? PA69 PA is what allowed

people bringing the washing machines if you are if you are set up for it. County can recycle whatever they want to recycle. Oh, the county it's a county recycling effort. So yeah, it would be it'd have to be Yes. Okay. MRA contract.

So, you have in your packet the MRA contract. We get this every year. Um, and they are asking I think it's the same exact amount, $4,050 for us to contribute. And they send a nice little letter thanking us for giving them that much money. I think they did 75 activity registrations which is 40 participants. So if you have one child that participates in two things that's two activity registrations only one child obviously. Um what else? They do offer scholarships I think for someone that can't afford

Y fees. Yep. They did 43 residents in our township requested three scholarships. Together we provided 43 scholarships totaling $1,560. You know if that's what we pay or you have you can look it up but I feel like that's exactly pretty close. Um and they do which I do not include in the packet. If somebody wants to see it here is a list of the participants. The reason it is not in the packet is these are all minor children with their addresses. No. No. That's a no. No. Right. I mean to put that out. It is a no no for this clerk.

Yeah. I will not be contributing. Okay. That information. I believe it is the same as last year. Well, that's right. You're on board. Mr. Kefir, board member. 4,100. So a little less sale. Got a bonus. Someone make a motion. I'll make a motion we enter the agreement with the Misty Recreation Association. I'll second that.

Okay. Second. Any other discussion? You want to list the amount? $4,050,000. Okay. Thank you. All in favor say I. I. I. Oppos. That's carried. Um, laser laser fish.

So, at the budget work session, we talked about migrating laserfish to the cloud and um they got put in the budget and I got the the documents today um with with all the amounts and stuff. So, I would um I emailed them out real light. I just got them literally already 345, but it's their standard boilerplate master agreement and um they they're responsible for, you know, migrating everything over and uh getting it up and running and making sure everybody's able to access it and what have you. So, I I would move um or recommend that we approve that so we can get that going. Is there a dollar amount?

It it was originally it was like net of our credit for our existing um service contract. It was like 7,900 a month or two pass. So it's like 8,000. Does it say it on the screen? I was trying to look at it. So it's $8,691. And then the ongoing recurring cost is about 5,300 a year.

Yeah. which is a little more than we pay now. Well, actually it would be uh it's 2520 for laser fees, it's 22.95 for the support and it's 500 for the burning center on the laser fish which we don't need every year but I think we need to get people up to speed on how to use it. So let's use a So out of curiosity on the agreement that you emailed what paragraph shows the righteous form. So, it's the second page of the addendum. One is like the boilerplate master agreement and then there's the there's a master services agreement which is all the and then it's the other one right there. Maybe I

There was a should have been two attachments. Yeah, the one attachment I have I only see one. Oh, forget it. You want to see it on paper? No, I've got it now. It's just I was only seeing the signature side and because I saw the signature side, I thought that was the last page. I'm like, where's the number? Okay. Okay. You make a motion. Do we have a second? I'll make the motion we approve it. Second. Second. Cindy, any other discussion by anybody? You want to have the amount in there, Ed, and say it's $8,691 penny?

Sure. Oops. Okay. I guess all in favor say I. Opposed. That's carried. I would move that we pay the bills. Thanks. Yes. All in favor say I go correspondence.

Yep. So we received a courtesy notice which is required by the zoning enabling act um that Arcadia Township has begun their master planning process because we're contiguous with them. and to notify us. Okay, that it that's it. Okay, public comment. No, nobody gone. Nobody online. Okay, I'm going to join the meeting.