Water Pollution Control Authority - Regular Meeting

Très bien, nous pouvons à 19h, nous allons ouvrir cette réunion à 19h. Sont présents moi, Merida Yali, Dimitri, Laura, Parente, Vénice, Maluso, Brian, Sally, et je ne peux pas dire Sally, d'oublié.

Et en ligne, Bill Reynolds.

Nous avons donc Approval of the verbal trial of the ordinary meeting of the WPCA of July 20, 2026. I hope everyone read it. I wrote it. It seemed correct to me. And I have a motion to approve the verbal trial of July 20.

I'm going to make a motion. Second.

I know they are for. I know they are against.

I'm sorry.

Elements of information, communication and correspondence. Oh, I know who you are, I'm glad you came. I'm glad you came.

I have a question. It's a very important question.

Joe was a speaker invited last month. And he spoke. J'ai demandé au conseil d'administration de Swetman de nous fournir une copie des graphiques que vous leur avez mises. J'espère qu'ils le feront. Nous serons d'accord. Très bien. Il y a un élément d'information, communication, correspondance. Pourquoi ne pas commencer par le budget? D'accord. Who is this young woman?

It's Anita.

Anita is there and her office is there. In fact, for the month of July, there is absolutely no change anywhere. Despite the fact that we had first added a few hours of administrative work, this was not included in July. It will be in August. Et j'allais dire qu'absolument rien au monde ne s'est passé avant que je reçoive cet email aujourd'hui, n'est-ce pas? D'une native, Nancy, elle avait discuté dans le passé de quelques factures juridiques concernant l'eau, l'obligation d'eau potable. Et finalement, ça leur est arrivé. Et donc, les frais pour 25 et 26 sont de 3 euros sur l'arrêt. Bonne heure. and she will submit them to Tracy, who will make the payments for a payment from 2026. Six, because we have the funds in there. So I had it. It would be an action in July, I suppose. But it will be deducted 2026. And so far, we have started the year with nothing. John. Sorry. So there is really nothing to report, except that it is a kind of report that will be accepted and sued for the $16,000 that we had last year. Apart from that, there was nothing for July.

It still works. It doesn't take much from our budget for this year. It doesn't take anything.

May I have a motion to accept?

Question for you.

It is a fund for potable water.

What funds are they?

We used drinking water. We used funds for drinking water. I say that the funds for drinking water come from a different account.

Because we are on a separate account.

It's a separate account. Fonds pour l'eau potable have a separate account in their 104 services. But it was my interpretation and maybe we could ask Anita if these particular legal concerns were our responsibility. So, because it was legal fees for the caution. And we were responsible for the caution, even if we did not proceed with our other transactions. So, these are legal fees for our part of the caution. So, we just have to answer your previous question, the Board of Directors, on what we spent once the city spent, in addition to the $ 3.00 of legal fees for the caution. We spent about $80 in legal fees for a lawyer specialized in legal cases. About $80. The city pays for it.

We can't be paid at this rate.

So, about $80 have been spent. The funds for drinking water, for the initial study, we have spent around $560. C'est un pourcentage plus élevé. Pour l'étude.

À la fin du projet. Bien, là où il n'y a pas de projet pour le sud.

Il y avait toujours des services au Nid. Et Boudoir.

Boudoir des Curandes ont obtenu leurs six cinquièmes dollars.

Yes, that's right.

I just want to make sure that this does not come from our operating budget and that it was a budget designed for the Ego project, because that's where this money comes from. It was. That's why he came.

I think it was 650 euros. Did you go? And it was for 2126, right? Let's go to another number, 207. And if you want, you can go ahead. If we can go to another one. Well, let's make a motion to accept the budget update, which is nothing. They have a motion to accept your financial report. I'm going to make a motion report because you are not a voting member. Can I be a voting member tonight? I didn't make you sign the contract. So I don't think I can do it. I made a motion to accept.

I published it.

Abstention. The motion is adopted. Let's move on to something else. Selection of borders. Denis and I have just attended the meeting of the Board of Directors. I told him about the situation with the committee. We have worked very hard. Thank you to Brian and Laura for your help and for having determined who is Avenger today and who is not. We had about 23 candidates when we are at 16 at this stage, which is great. This list has been sent to the committee. Skip, skip. Cardi accepted to update the web page for us.

He accepted to verify it again today.

I didn't see it. He accepted to do it again today, but I didn't see the update.

I didn't see it.

I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. Le nombre réel est de 18 et tous ceux qui la listent. Merci. C'est la première étape dont nous avons besoin. Nous devons nettoyer le processus, le processus de carbonate. Ça ne marche pas. Ça ne marche pas. Un fruit sur cinq est en défaut de paiement en ce moment. C'est trop. Elles ne font pas leur travail. So, whether it's because the sellers don't put the information in the comedy or that people just say, oh, it's a nice cup. We therefore think that this must first change with writing, that we must first update our system. Then we wrote a letter that we put back to the WPCA, to the Board of Directors tonight. I think I've already shared it with you all. Thank you for providing service to our city. Will this go to the transporters? To provide service to our city?

The transporters I called? You know, of course, you get their service from their offices. They had no idea who they needed. So they asked someone else to call you back.

Fortunately, they called back, but none of their services indicated.

But the second part is that once we have put our calls in order, as Clinton did with success, once we have put our holidays in order, we must send a stronger message to... properties that receive several of these calls.

Some of these dates are 215 2015, dates to which they have been notified for the first time. We therefore need the message to see.

I gave an example tonight at the National Council.

What Clinton has approved has already been approved by its legal service and I do not see why we could not do something similar.

The third part concerns the application. Our ordinance already stipulates that if you are late and you are at this time, even in a counting situation of 7 years, the municipal ordinance stipulates that it has not been applied because it was too concentrated. This ordinance came into force in 2019. We therefore need the support of the municipal council to make it apply. I contacted EDGE to sign the application, but I don't know why.

But we can send the letters.

Elle dit que le conseil d'administration ne peut pas nécessairement être l'agent. Mais Clinton, le fait de s'assurer qu'il va être examiné par le service juridique, comment l'appliquer, mais vous savez, changer l'ordonnance à 5 ans, ce moyen de l'appliquer, n'est qu'un petit détail. Une propriété sur 5 aujourd'hui, il y aura tout simplement ces parties.

Je vois les choses. Si nous ne les changeons pas. Elles ne sortiront pas. Elles ne sortiront toujours pas.

Nous devons changer.

Au moins, si nous, et vous avez soumis les 1 500 personnes, ou 1 500 maisons en défaut. C'est que c'était 50. D'accord. 1000. Et une maison sur 5 est toujours en défaut.

Ah, by the way... So, the question is the following.

If we don't say that we have a slum every five years, and that you are more than delinquents, on the slum, every seven years, the amendment will begin. As soon as we send you a letter, purely and simply, without a badge, no matter the procedure of appeal and who will be the health director. You know if you can't send them cards and letters without consequences.

It's just money laundering. You keep sending it year after year because the same properties, year after year, we simply ignore them. Many of these properties order

zones d'eau que nous devons protéger.

Ne les protégeons pas si nous ne faisons pas l'enjeu.

Et ils ne font pas l'enjeu. Eh bien, je dis que nous forçons simplement la vidange tous les cinq ans. Commencez par là et commencez à envoyer des lettres de la WPCA.

Pas ça, pas une chose.

Sur le web ou quelque chose comme ça.

Commencez à les envoyer à la Chambre des Archives. where they are.

I guarantee you that when they see something and that they will see the 100 dollars per day start immediately, they will call a carrier.

So all this was put back to the municipal council tonight for examination and approbation.

We have submitted the new ordinance before.

that there is a new ordinance, but they have not yet made a decision. So, once again, I think that... No, I think that the ordinance must be stipulated how it will be applied.

Questions in two parts that you can... And if that costs us... For those who are very late. And choose a more recent date, January 1st of this year or something like that. Would it make sense to do at least the household so that people don't look at an invoice like this one? You mean financially?

Well, we didn't find anyone. We wouldn't find anyone as long as another opinion was not sent, then we would remain on this opinion for 30 or 45 more days.

After which you would be sentenced to a fine. Well, that's kind of where I'm coming from. I mean, you would be a financial loss or something else for life, because you don't try to recover your old money, but recover it.

Mais que se passerait-il si nous le déplacions au 1er janvier ou autre ? Mais si ! Vous savez, je ne sais pas si cela fonctionnerait ou non, car sinon, je n'ai aucune idée de la façon dont vous allez récupérer tout l'ancien argent.

Non, nous ne cherchons pas à récupérer l'ancien argent.

Nous ne récupérons pas l'ancien argent.

Nous ne revenons pas en arrière.

Nous créons un précédent, vous n'avez pas pompé, et vous allez le faire où tout ira bien. C'est clair et net ? Non, il n'y a pas de façon de faire. They went around the problem 1 out of 5. The other 4 people could have a problem. Oh, I can't find my receipt or my carrier. Never did anything. You know, it snowed when I did it and I don't know where the septic pit is. That's not our problem. Our problem is that we have 7 scary inhabitants in this city and... If we hadn't done it, there would be 73 pages of... people with septic faults in life. Everyone has a septic fault, whether it's a septic fault, an advanced system, or a hole in the ground. Everyone has one. So, with the number of people who have avoided the problem, I don't care, you know, I really don't care, because if it happened to me, me dépêcherait de le faire. Autre façon dont nous aurions pu le faire, c'est de réduire les impôts sur leurs propriétés et la ville pourrait le faire. Croyez-moi, quand tu vois une réduction des impôts, la façon dont les gens veulent vendre leur maison, et la plupart des banques exigent une inspection et une vidange de la fausse sceptique.

But we can't really do anything, as long as Martha, or the city, has not determined who will be the executioner. Well, it's already in the ordinance. It's in our existing ordinance at the moment, but how do we put it in place? So you send a letter, you don't know how to do it, and you don't always do it. What do you do next? So this plan must be in place.

How much did the cards cost? How much was it? How much does the creation of the card cost?

Well, let's say it's $2 with Erika's time per card.

Well, what I'm saying is that I worked for Xerox all my life. It's a color impression. It costs $5. With Toverso. Okay. So add these $5 to the cost of sending it and then... no answer. So we're at 7 dollars and we still haven't got anything.

I have another idea about it. I think it should be done through the lawyer.

Through the lawyer.

And not by card, but by the letter of the lawyer in which we would agree that it comes from the lawyer. The lawyer has nothing to do. He just prints a letter with the name of the lawyer and he receives it. That's how it should be done. I think there is no cap, nothing. They open the lawyer's letter. They pay attention to it. But wouldn't a letter be cheaper?

The letter to be put in an envelope and stamped.

How many people are there?

Eighty-three hundred, the letter.

A thousand.

Recommend the letter. Yeah, it's just for the letter.

We just paid a $80,000 bill for lawyers. This city has a problem with the fact that every time they turn around, they go to a lawyer.

I don't know.

I've been at the commission for 30 years. I don't know why. An expense as high as $80,000. Lawyers make a fortune these days.

But if this little piece of ice cream costs 5 dollars and... Lawyers certainly don't send letters for nothing. A lawyer's letter, even if it is addressed to several thousands of people, they will bill fees for this legal letter. If it officially comes from the city, people would be more likely to open it and read it. And I think that before going to see a lawyer, we will come back at 2 a.m. You have 45 days to come.

So yes, a lawyer should be involved. But I know my opinion.

But again, this is something that Martha examines with our lawyers and she will give us instructions.

This card seems to have... We could do our job now.

It is not necessary.

We could send a letter from the WPCA indicating... that you are late since this date on a period of seven years.

We are trying to reduce it to five years, which will make you even more late. We can send the letter.

You send, we sent cards. We had no response. I guarantee you that you send a letter with this name and this specific address to the person. And oh, in fact, you are on the move, you will be on the move. I guarantee you that people will start to move.

It comes from the WPCA.

WPCA. The WPCA has been sending things like that for years.

I think it's a good idea to start.

Start. I can start. I don't know for whom it is.

I would volunteer to fill and tag.

We are very precise by address and by duration. Then each of these letters will be united.

And that's it. We just have to do a thousand of... ...many letters, but without doing them. You give in to the problem.

You make a typo and you leave the place where their name and date are on... ...a line, then you send a courier.

Whoever it is, no more postage. Very good.

I think the call tax is an excellent idea.

I think the call tax... We owe a second opinion.

We have to give time with the reviews. We have to do at least three.

But if you send a personalized letter of our step, now they are warned. They have it there. They threw it in the trash. Who's coming to get me?

Now I'm coming to get you. Again, as I said, several of these cars were sent by the post office. So some people didn't have them. We need to have them. I tried to contact Erika to see if she gave a follow-up to this. There is no news.

So for the 50 or 75 cars that have been sent back, we ask you to make sure you receive this notice. They have a name on the card.

The reason why it was sent back is that the people who do not live in these houses, it is a secondary residence. And they sent to the house, there is no mail sometimes.

One of the problems we are trying to solve, and the way we are going to solve it, is to work with Harmony to update what is happening. It is that cars are not billed as a supplement. We can do it a certain number of times a year, but our BPCA has not been consistent and has not sent this information. And you know, because they were very busy with the egos. We will try to send them every quarter of the year. We will change this policy. and we will also change the way the information is transmitted to us. Thus, instead of passing by another pair of hands, we will ask the evaluator to send them directly to the most recent address list. Then, Comedie reads this entry file in which there has not really been an incident. They will read this entry file and we will then create the report. This is a process that must be refined. He followed a different path.

You only do 250 people every quarter.

No, we do the whole city every quarter in the Harvard report that we are going to do.

So what I'm saying is that you must first examine the criminals

But what I'm saying is that the next time we receive this report, the next time we generate this report, at that time, the evaluator will have sent the file directly to Comédie. Cardi will take this file from the evaluator to generate another report. The process has not been carried out quite frequently. C'est ce processus en soi.

Et encore une fois.

Et encore une fois. On s'occupait tellement des aigus. Ce processus consistant à nous renvoyer les informations de la ville n'a pas été... C'est pourquoi il y a eu beaucoup de retours. Nous exécuterons à nouveau le rapport. Et peut-être qu'à ce stade, nous n'en aurons plus que 800. Je ne sais pas. You will send a thousand at the same time, which is updated. About a thousand. It will be a new flow of entry into a new return from the agreement and we will work from there. We are waiting for this to be the case. The other thing too, as you noted, in some cases, the address of the evaluator, of the owner, some people in several properties, so I received a phone card that said, hey, I pumped. Yes, you pumped your main address, but not your address. So we have to be more precise on these maps when it comes to the address and which address at the moment. And it's not really clear. So minor problems, but nothing we can solve.

Elisabeth Réan or someone from the local newspapers, could you tell me when we're ready?

I'm Elisabeth.

Oh, I know you're my back. Once we're ready to launch this. or whatever you want to call it, could it help us to make known what we are specifically doing? But see what I mean?

And I want it. But again, we can't, we must obtain the green light of the Board of Directors. I think we understand that the amendment is already provided in the ordinance. It is already a rule of law, here in full compliance.

Once again, we have to find a way to put them in order. I now say that when we are ready to launch, if we can find someone from the newspapers and others to help us put words in their newspapers that are really specific to what we are going to do. Maybe we will attract someone's attention.

Et nous le ferons.

Vous essayez de prendre conscience du fait qu'ils ne respectent pas les règles. Les règles actuelles stipulent que vous devrez vidanger tous les sept ans. Nous les dorlotons. Et il restera là au printemps et à l'été prochain.

Combien de personnes ont été vidangées ?

Eh bien, ce nombre signifie 95. Je n'ai pas.

Encore, vidangées.

Vous savez, ma propriété doit être livrée en septembre, donc je l'ai fait vidangée ce mois-ci. Donc, la prochaine fois que nous exécuterons à nouveau le rapport, il y aura différentes propriétés sur le rapport. Nous devons nous mettre au travail pour tout nettoyer. Cela va prendre du temps. Cela a pris plusieurs années à Clinton. Ils ont commencé ce processus. Cela a repris du temps. Et maintenant, elle dit que c'est comme une horloge.

Mais Clinton avait la ville. behind them when they did it. We are now in a situation where we are so late because of the previous elected officials and the WPCA that we have to do something more decisive to attract their attention. A 2x4 on the head of a dwarf makes them understand And in this way, if we send the letter of the WPCA to each owner who was in default payment at this time, saying that there is an amendment associated with it, please act immediately. Immediately.

Why not write that down first?

I would be more than happy to do it, but I am not good at writing legal documents or a letter, I would be You have to stop with the idea that they will examine it again and that they will come back and reduce the costs. And yes, it will happen, but it will take another year before it happens. So, in another year, you still have a hundred people who are not at the same level.

It will probably take time, won't it? You need immediate action.

And that's my opinion.

And if someone wants to help me write, I would be more than happy to do it. But it must come from the president.

Thank you.

Your second, yeah.

So, give it to the board of directors. what Clinton had sent as an office, because I suppose Clinton has already gone through their legal services because they have been doing that for a long time. I know it was a good model. But I'm going to share it with you. I just don't have any other copies at the moment because I would have given them my own.

Yeah, me too.

Okay. You all have your word. Les associations de plages privées ont annulé leurs deux dernières réunions. Il y a une réunion ce soir, même heure que la nôtre. J'ai seulement vu leur communication, il y a leur calendrier dans lequel ils stipulent qu'ils effectueront des travaux à Saint-Bio sur la station de pompage en juin, juillet et août, ce qui est contraire à la règle mondiale. So it would be something that should be submitted to the commission. Do you know if they are going to grant a derogation for that or not?

They can't derogate. It's the same reason why they set the deadline for September for the three beaches, right?

Yes. So they think that, I think it's the 27th of October. According to what I understand, I'm an expert. My daughter is an engineer, but I think they're stuck. Start the pumping station and build the system upside down. They're starting what the engine engineers told me, but... No, they started in Miami Beach yesterday.

The internal power system.

By gravity, I mean today. Gravity, you tell us that it generally starts at the very end and goes up in time. Well, it won't be online. Because of leveling. Well, it won't be online before.

That is to say, construction is generally built over time.

So what does that mean for us as a city? Well, for now, we are not part of the Ego project when the referendum was rejected. We will be part of the Ego project in the future.

I can't stop asking myself that.

The real estate agents are asking me how much it's going to cost. I don't know. We don't have an offer yet. When it expires, we'll have to redo it. We're trying to find an alternative solution. Okay, we'll meet again in two weeks. And we don't have any new offers. So, I think...

We don't have an answer, so we can't tell anyone that we're inside or outside.

We're still in the factory, just like Hopsnail.

We didn't go out.

But Steve never officially said that Click was outside. They never said that.

They didn't say it. They are deeply obliged to slap us on the head and say You don't think so? I don't know if I'm asking this to...

I don't think they even care about us right now.

It would be very hard for them to do that.

But who knows? They have more important problems to deal with right now. Well, you're the biggest criminal in my opinion, because they pour millions of gallons of water, millions of gallons of water, regularly used and brewed, regularly used and brewed water every single snow. I didn't know that Hartford also poured all this time. They worked on a deviation where they will just let the water flow

I don't know what they're going to do from there, but... Because Kat Miles doesn't attend MDC.

So I don't know for now. I don't know. People keep asking. I can't tell you yes. I can't tell you no. I'm not saying in the immediate future.

Will we be able to connect one day?

So I hope that's what Martha wanted to say tonight, isn't it?

They want to report them so that they can get their entire team to intervene, which was not available.

So I hope that next month we will have an answer. I received a lot of false information from them when I called.

And it's not the right information.

And I talked to a few people, not just someone who answers on the phone. He said, you are on Roku National. Whether you connect or not, you will be evaluated. What I am not because I am on the other side of the street.

And then the moratorium lasts five years. And then later in the conversation, I don't even know.

So, we don't know. But I hope we will when Martha will bring the water from the Polytechnic to our city and we will discuss. I would say they dig the road. Usually, they put the sewers and the water at the same time. Usually, they put the sewers in front of the water, right? But with the road dug, the water... Sewers are three feet below. So, we do everything backwards. I think it's a very important and precious information that you have and I really hope you want to share it.

Well, you know, it all started with me while I was observing the evolution of deep and deep egos in the city. And during this time, sorry, in June, I made a public comment during a zoning meeting in June. And during this zoning meeting, I clearly indicated that, you know, this idea of extracting groundwater from the city and pumping them over 24 km to New London and was considered as a good thing for the environment. And I wonder, what about the energy and the impacts of this energy to pump water over 24 km? To talk about it, as you have already said, the overflows of unitary sewage that always occur and that are not properly treated. And you know, we essentially get, you know, a water that does not fit as a effluent of the purification stations. At best, they continue to spill a ton of nitrogen, you know. So to eliminate nitrogen, Denis was paying, you know, several billion dollars if you will, for it to happen, and it would take 10 to 20 years for it to be cleaned. I look at this and I realize that I have been in town for 41 years and that I live next to Armstrong Brook, one of the rivers and rivers of the town. It's only recently that I saw this stream drying up. I have a pond in front of my house that is drying up too. I had never seen that. And the one that really shocked me was the crossland fire station pond. I had never seen it dry up. Last summer it was completely dry. So what we see is that something is certainly happening in terms of water availability in the city. And that led me to start looking and sending Adénie copies of some of these articles that I like to put at the disposal of people in charge of water. But if you look, you know, the problem is that there is a reason for this shortage of water. Partly because of the drought. NASA has carried out an experiment that is much more than an experiment. It is now a world cartography service that they provide called the EXPERIENCE. And it was one of these graphics. You will find it here, but if you look, you know this experience thanks to NASA, it has cartographed underground water in the whole world. An incredible thing. They put two satellites in place. They launched one, waited a while, launched a second one. Of course. So it's two satellites when The satellite goes above the water, whether it's an ocean, a lake or a fray. The gravitational attraction is stronger and it accelerates. The second satellite ends up there. The movement that occurs due to the presence of stronger gravity has allowed them to transform it into a signal that they can, with a computer, calculate and map underground waters. What you see, and what is the most incredible, is that this is happening in the whole world, and not only in the whole world. You know, the use of groundwater for agriculture has dried up certain regions, like the center of the United States. It's a big problem. I started to get interested in the question, and I see the large agricultural regions, but also the coast. You know, all these old cities that are flooded. Guess what? You see, if you pump the water from the ground and you pour it into the salty water plans, you will end up lacking water. And then on the way, I saw something else. My youngest daughter wanted to come back to town. And she looked at the naysayers and some of the new naysayers, the rains go down to the rocky substrates. They go down 600 feet. So you start to examine the aquifers. Traditionally, at Oak Lime, Deb did nothing to update the state of the aquifers. But if you look at what is accessible to the public, it is Long Island. Biologically, if you are 600 feet deep, the Long Island Detroit does not really matter. What happened in Long Island, which is 150 miles long, is the extreme west of Long Island, which is made up of the Brooklyn Territory and the Queens of New York City. Long Island starts with Nassau, then the county of Suffache. They poisoned the groundwater with the intrusion of salt. And the reason is that the city has been using sewage for about 200 years. So, you know, this sewage action has caused an infiltration of salty water. Long Island has a lot of areas heavily polluted by sewage. That's why they go down so deep. Because part of this water is in the rocky aquifer. I'm not a hydrologist. You know, I'm an engineering and marine engineer. But from what I've read, a part of this water is a very, very old accumulation of rain. So these raindrops may have fallen, I don't know how long ago, but certainly before our birth. And now we exploit them and the pom-poms. It's not a good idea. So I looked at that and I started looking for Long Island, you know, okay, you know, the network of tastes or is that a product of others? Well, if you look, you know, Cape May in New Jersey, all the south of Florida and Selenus in California. You know, if you have places where your city needs salty water, you know how to continue pumping underground water, you end up having an intrusion of salt. They may have had to build a desalination plant. They had an intrusion of salt to a point such that they had no other choice. They went from the probable end of public and private wells to an entirely municipal system fed by desalination. So I'm saying that if Deep is going to impose this sewer system on us, Deep has to pay. You know, they have to put in place a kind of guarantee according to which, okay, you're going to do all this sewer system and once we can no longer use our groundwater, that we are missing it or that it becomes dirty, you should pay for it. Because I see 85 million dollars that online contributors have not voted against, we do not want to do it. So, the other part of all this is that, you know, the city on the other side of the river, Oldside Brook, didn't taste bad. They have community septic systems. It costs less. Why should we choose a more expensive solution that will harm the general well-being of our city in terms of water resources? That's kind of what I mean.

Clinton also. Clinton also.

Clinton also.

Clinton also. Clinton also. Clinton also. Clinton also. I said, okay, we're going to get them. We've been transporting water by truck for years. I've been living close to the well. What started moving by truck for years. What started moving by truck for years.

What started moving by truck for years. What started moving by truck for years. What started moving by truck for years. What started moving by truck for years.

What started moving by truck for years.

What started moving by truck for years.

So you know, when I went to the office of the selected people, I tried to know in advance what are the volumes that the Connecticut Water pump.

After the point of the Goodwoods, the volume has increased because now you know if you have a false skepticism and that you are worried. You know, by openly taxing, you are not wasting water. If you now have a sewage channeling for which you have paid all this money, you know that it will disappear. This is not my problem anymore. I think it will lead to an increase in volume. So I looked at what was accessible to the public and I understand, you know, as an engineer who has done a lot of public service work on my side, mainly in electricity and gas. But I look at that and I say to myself, you know, some of this information could not be widely disseminated for security reasons. But I started looking and I find that Connecticut Water has between 5 and 14 active wells as well as abandoned wells. My question is therefore, since, I can say that the city, you know, the competent authorities of the city should know What is the number of wells? What is the extent of the extracted water? Are the wells dry? Which, of course, if dozens of fire trucks come. The water, it seems to me as if it dried up the well. And in addition to that, you know, what is the reason for the abandonment of the wells that have been abandoned? And then another thing, you know, with the abandonment of the wells, if the problem is the intrusion of salt. If we do not correctly leave a well, we have penetrated all the phreatic naps. So now we have opened a conduit so that the contamination penetrates in, you know, the active naps. And what worries me the most now is that if they started to exploit this rocky aquifer, it really worries me. Long Island, they have been doing this for a while now and it leads to the problem they see with the intrusion of salt. So, you know, without going into too much detail, I mean, it's a kind of summary, you know, of what I saw and what worries me.

What's going on with the salt intrusion?

Basically, well, yes.

No, but what's the impact?

The impact is that it's so serious. The desalination of the water is expensive, it's a huge burden. You know, it usually ends up becoming a municipal system, which is why Cape Maycar tried to do it individually. With private residences, I think the cost becomes a burden. You know, it's not an easy thing to do.

I think they have to build a factory. To do it, it's not just a small building.

No, the technology that is mainly used today, I think, is what we call reverse osmosis. It's not a good market, it's very energy-intensive, and you know, you also need equipment to do it. It's an inconvenience, it's also a consumable. So you're talking about a permanent cost of a large amount of energy to make the process work and many consumables that are very expensive. And you know, I have two little children in town. I don't want to leave them any damage, and that's also part of my interests.

It is said that we pump the water and send it to someone else.

We pump our groundwater and it ends up in the sewers. Pumping in New London. Treating, if you will, not in an adequate way, then pouring into the Detroit of Long Island.

Is it really true? Because they support that it is a closed system. But it does not concern groundwater. It's true, because when you... Okay, I wash my hands. I do one. It's water that goes back into the ground. Your septic system feeds the underground waters. Not immediately, but over time, when it infiltrates your purification field, it goes back directly into the ground. If you take that and it goes into a pipe and it goes to New London, then into the ocean, you will never get it back because it becomes water. Responsible... to do something about it. Well, they are not supply companies.

They are just worried about delivering water to customers.

That's all they can't prevent. And when I talked about it to Deep and the engineers, they all looked at me as if I had said, you're crazy. My daughter.

And don't stop talking right above me.

I'm going to ask you a question about the original graphic that you showed. And you showed that the Midwest was drier because of agriculture. Well, I've known him since 2010, when my original hero was Marvin Robertson, who... Oh, he lied to me.

Okay.

Et depuis que j'ai commencé à m'intéresser aux égouts par rapport à tout ça, il était un fervent partisan du fait que vous prenez vos eaux souterraines, vous les expédiez à Londres ou ailleurs, et vous allez avoir une intrusion d'eau saine. J'ai toutes sortes de rapports qu'il m'a envoyés. Donc je sais que ça en fait. Mais ce qui me trouble, comme vous l'avez dit, et je comprends tout le principe, But why does agriculture contribute? Ah, evaporation.

The way they use water. They install giant irrigators, don't they?

But then they return to the soil.

No, that was my question. The extent of evaporation. And fundamentally, the reason for the deficit. You know, you go to the desert areas of the world that most countries have. We went to irrigation, taste to taste. So now, you know, you no longer spray in the air. You can see it all over here.

Go to Rhode Island, look at the lawnmowers when they're there. It's just water. I didn't understand. Okay, these are countries that have a lot of sand deserts, which are forced to make sandcastles because there is no more water available. The extract from the ocean is sent through We had this discussion when it was normal for the WPCA to leave. 150,000 gallons of water are flowing out of the region every day. That's what they did. They were proud of it. And how could you be proud of it when there is no lake in the surroundings? You know, apart from the Rogers Lake, which is, you know, my feeling about the Rogers Lake.

The Rogers Lake, if we don't change the course on the sewers, Rogers Lake will become the reservoir of the city. If we have enough precipitation for it. Exactly. So it's something in

Our previous WPCAS made fun of what leaves the city and of what remains. Everyone, except for three private beaches and a point of forest around the wells, whether it is a dug well or a well that has to go down 600 feet to get enough gallons per hour. C'est sur cela que nous comptons. Les trois autres plages privées s'en moquent bien et ce sont elles qui vont le faire parce qu'elles sont toutes des clients de Connecticut Water.

Eh bien, aucune d'entre elles n'a encore un nombre important depuis... Je sais, je ne sais pas.

Elles sont toutes des clients de Connecticut Water. Les plages sont toutes connectées et... Celles qui sont connectées le sont toutes...

But there are still a lot of active individual wells in the old choice of land. But not as much as they are connected to Connecticut Water.

Miami Beach is now a client of Connecticut Water. And Miami Beach, because of the creation of this water system for Miami Beach, And each owner had to pay $300 a year during the last four years because Miami Beach has other problems than Connecticut. So what is the answer?

The answer is to have safety systems that work well and

If we are now also martyred by the state to build multi-family housing in the city to have community septic systems. Because you know, I can imagine, you know, if the sewer network continues to expand under the new mandates of the state for affordable housing, we will end up with hundreds of units who will decide, you know, the answer is that we have sewage to get there. And that will only continue to extend this problem.

C'était le décret du Gouverneur Lamont, c'est que le 830G ouvrirait les logements sociaux et les quartiers desservis par les égouts, les quartiers de Seward. Pas Dog West, rien d'autre que les égouts.

Eh bien, ils devront aller à Miami Beach et il y avait beaucoup d'égouts. Je ne sais pas si quelqu'un d'autre a écouté cette réunion avec le zonage et ils ont continué à insister sur le fait qu'ils installaient des égouts dans la zone C10, zone B. Oh, vraiment ? Mais cela va les empêcher de construire des logements là-bas. Et je continue. Où construisent-ils ça ? Je ne connais aucun terrain vague de ton côté. C'est ton jardin latéral. Ton jardin ? Tu veux dire une propriété de plusieurs hectares ? Mais pas de conduite. Ce n'est pas la zone C10 ?

C'est C10. Croyez-moi.

Je pensais que c'était C30 là-dedans.

Ouais, c'est exactement la raison pour laquelle c'est 148.

Mais ils disaient que c'était C10 au nord de Soundview, qui est la zone B, et je suis assise. Là, ils écoutent, ils disent ça. Donc, par le commissariat, je dis, où vont-ils construire ? Parce que je ne sais pas, il n'y a pas de terrain vague de l'autre côté de la rue.

In front of your house.

They already said they couldn't build it there.

They're going to the station and to the road station.

The road station is there, but there's some ground there. But from what I know, I'm not 100% sure. I think the property deed was given to them by the church with the agreement that they couldn't build on it because it's the church overflow parking lot when they organize events. I don't know if it's still true, but...

The city owners bought it, didn't they?

No, the city didn't buy it.

After the church, after the church was there, the city authorized the church to have access to the parking lot on the other side of the street. It has always been the property of the city. And that's the only reason why it was always surrounded by ropes and all the rest. It goes back to, I mean, I was maybe five years old.

I can tell you Franklin and I wanted to buy it at the church.

It was for $250,000. The city beat us. So the city paid for it. $50,000 more and I bought it.

He just wanted to keep it as it is.

No other questions. It's about egos.

Behind Cherry Stones, the city of Old Lyme decided that it could not do anything in terms of taste and that's what made us start. Deep decided that, I think Deep decided that the city decided that it was expensive and that it was no longer necessary. But in this case, what is the project behind Cherry Stones? Are we talking about 75 houses or something like that? What are they going to use? Are they going to have...

There is a water well in Connecticut. I was the president who was talking about this. And it was not big enough for the beaches. And the Connecticut water well is so close. It should be 75 feet deep.

It must be away from the community system.

So, three owners are now owners. Three people. And they're waiting to do something.

And now they just gave it to...

I don't know what. The building itself is three acres and the rest... About 22 acres. Three people were owners. And people bought it.

They don't do anything.

They built another small building. And then they do it again.

It didn't last, did it? But if we couldn't put a sewage system in these houses, you're going to put one next to the water pipes of the connecticut anyway. I don't know if it's going to work. I don't think they can do it. I don't think it's going to work. And I don't know when Deep says no, he was just talking about Soundview that he would use. Everyone.

That's where everyone is confused. Everyone is confused. When the previous WTCA went on the eviction of the sewers, you know, who were there, they went on the property. De Montenero, Jeff owns the court and the three people own the court before. They wanted 900 houses in there. That's the reason why it was rejected, isn't it? It had nothing to do with Soundview. They were doing everything on the coast on it. Anyone who graduated from high school could tell you. You can't put as many houses in it and take this kind of water. So if it was just a scenic view, that's the reason why I've always been a partisan Okay, we build our own pumping station and we send it there and it becomes a community of 200 houses instead of 900 C. The reason why it failed is when they said that it would infiltrate into the wells of Connecticut Waters. This is the reason why Connecticut Waters came back and declared that there was no distance problem. C'est à plus d'un mille de nos puits. Donc, c'était inexistant. C'est tout, ça n'est jamais arrivé.

Merci beaucoup.

Ce que je vais faire, c'est faire la coupe.

Je pense que vous pouvez m'envoyer vos graphiques.

Ils sont reçus par voie électronique. Merci beaucoup. Et j'en ferai une copie pour tout le monde.

Avez-vous des recommandations à nous faire ?

The recommendation is that we can't, we have to stop polluting the city. You know, I think it's unbearable. We're going to miss groundwater, aren't we? It's very simple.

So we have to update our older wells and update our...

The first thing we need is information on their state. Do you know if Connecticut's water follows a regular cycle and must now be mined by dozens of tank trucks? There is clearly a loss of water capacity in the wells they use. I also heard that Oblime Estates, at the end of Maxerty Road, in this neighborhood, had salt intrusions in these wells. These are only 8 words, but I mean, you know that this should be confirmed. You know, I think, do not worry, No. If someone is the owner, you're stuck. I'm selling a house. Oh, there's salt in it, in the wall. Think about it. So look at the extent of this. It's a ruin for the inhabitants of our city, for the inhabitants of the city. At the end of... Maker Drive... Oh, come on.

Catherine Drive, my favorite friend has a house in Rondin, over there.

Yeah, it's good to know you.

So the answer is that you know us. I mean, look at the model of Sabroke. You said that Clinton is the reason why... Deep fell in love with sewers. It's beyond me. I think it's because it's an easy and easy and easy solution.

I think it also generates revenue. I mean, it attracts new customers. So...

Think about it. Why the pumping of 15 miles of water to New London? Because DIP has put a moratorium on all new waste. So what they are doing now is, if you put a moratorium on the waste of water used in our rivers and in the Detroit, why are you now increasing the flow to go in the other direction?

They are not building septic tanks, sources on the shores or on the rivers. We always use what we have and we only make it grow.

I think the other thing when we talk about consumption is that we see now especially the long drift as the sewage is brought over there, the houses that were... ...becoming bigger and bigger.

Because I think we have the right to do it. And you know, we already see that they can't follow, you know. And now you hear numbers. I mean, I don't know where they are, I've never heard that, but... No, that's it. But from what I've seen, what is publicly known at the moment, is that you know that you could see 260 to 300 units being developed in court on the basis of the mandate of the state. You know, you're not that far.

If you have two or three, I look at you. Thank you very much, Jeff, for coming.

a public comment. There are no public comments. There are only people from the WPCA here. But can anyone make a public comment? I have a very good neighbor who had a very short question and he transmitted this information. Je parle donc au nom de mon voisin. Marc s'est d'accord. Et je lui ai mentionné le fait que la WCA envisageait de passer de vidange tous les 7 ans à 5 ans et il était manifestement concerné. Il a dit c'est déconnant. C'est ridicule. Et c'est un homme gentil et merveilleux. Et il l'a dit. D'accord. Il a dit, vous savez, ça n'a aucun sens. Quelqu'un a un bon système dont il s'occupe, qui l'entretient ou si dans certains cas vous avez besoin de le réparer, vous en occupez et c'est très bien. Mais ensuite, vous avez ses entreprises. Et lui, moi, Marc, je dis Wind River. Wind River. D'accord, quand elles viennent dans le quartier, par exemple. Nous avions quelques choses de très sanitaires quand nous avons emménagé ici. Puis Wind River a pris le relais. Wind River est arrivé et ils ont automatiquement dit, d'accord, vous devriez vider vos réservoirs tous les deux ou trois ans. Je veux dire, c'est la recommandation. Si vous ne le faites pas, vous faites les choses mal, vous allez le regretter. Alors Marc dit, d'accord, And it's just bullshit because if you... Hey, he had this thing out and he gave it to me and I'm supposed to give a copy to Martha, but it's... A request for a permit. 2024 for Wind River on Patchett, Patchett Hill. And this comment... parle de la façon dont cette activité proposée affectera les eaux du bassin versant de la rive sud-est et il aborde toutes sortes de choses sur ce que l'entreprise allait faire. Et il a dit comment Diable, can you justify that they come to take your fake septic and drive it to Hatshepsut to dump it there and that this water is found in the Detroit? Because it's the system they put in place. How can they justify that? So I phoned and I talked to this very nice guy in the city, Craig Bonnady, who is responsible for the development of the territory and the EPA. And I read his information and he said, no, you know, I don't understand. But he examined all the permits and all the data. And he said that the municipal council of the site was making its decisions. And yes, it's something that the WP... No. VP formulates and approves. And since they approve it, well, it doesn't make any sense because now they empty our septic tanks, take them up there, put them in this system and dump them in the Detroit. But would he not treat them? Oh, that's weird. But what is the extent of the treatment he has? Where? You know?

When Gary's father was the owner of the company, before Gary took over, that's when the old woman left. So whoever Gary cleaned his pit, he had the ability to store it on the property. then fill it up in a semi trailer and ship it to Hartford or Cromwell for elimination. I shouldn't say elimination for treatment. If there is something different, we have never been told about it.

Well, he found it. of 2008 that confirms the existence of this Wall Street. What we would then have to know is, to what extent is this project just a

I don't know what the... Treatment This request

gives them the authorization to receive waste from septic tanks, including septic tanks, waterproof tanks and tanks in Greece for the transfer and separation in filtrate and cast-on by pre-treatment, including chemical conditioning, decantation and dehydration. Then it is indicated where this will take place, then it is indicated important part, the proposed activity. This is in the PEER era, the proposed activity will potentially affect the waters of the basin towards the south-east coast. And so, this gentleman from our city, he spoke to Martha about Bennus and Le, il a regardé les différents permis et tout ça et a dit que oui, Deb a le droit de faire ça, de formuler ça, de créer ça et pourtant, il nous pose problème. Je ne sais pas quoi dire à mon voisin. C'est un bon couple. Ce que j'entends, c'est qu'il sépare les bouts. Il sépare l'eau. Est-ce qu'il rejette simplement l'eau après qu'elle a... So this public comment is a question from my neighbor. Why are we so worried about the idea of forcing them to take their septic fuses and clean them in five years instead of seven, when it happens with fuses, and that Wind River does just that, and that it denigrates? I think someone would do better to investigate. It seems quite sweet to me.

Well, we would have to find out what kind of construction they did for the sub-product they manufacture. It flows in the Detroit. Is it okay in the Formay river? Well, the Ruisseau-Armstrong is around here, but they will be north of the 95th.

Because Hachette-Sille reads that.

But it's the address. But I tried to find this address and I couldn't find it on a map of the city.

This man found it and he said that if you look at Shore Hills Road...

Shore Hills.

And then, next to that, there's... It starts with a G. Junova. J-A-G-O-U-V-N-A. And he found it on the map.

So, it's north of Shorty. It's parallel to the 95. Agor. Okay. So, it should be north of the 95, the H7 cells here.

I don't know.

We haven't been allowed to use the doctor's office water for years.

Because their well was contaminated. They said that... What's the address over there?

Just north, it's 95.

Yeah, it's... Is there any? In this little background.

What are the extensions if, in fact, if, in fact, if they gave them the approval to build a... and Dimitri would remember that Saber had lagoons in the north of the city near the reserve. And then every time they had the septic tank cleaned, they brought it up there and spread it on the lagoon. And the lagoon stayed there. And it's natural that it infiltrated the ground. Now they no longer authorize the lagoons, so we need to find out what it really is. Is it just a retention tank and they try to separate things before shipping them? I don't know. I don't know.

I tried to understand

La question publique à ce sujet vient de M. Staves et il ne comprend vraiment pas pourquoi il serait obligé de pomper sa fosse septique en parfait état de fonctionnement, dont il prend très bien soin encore plus souvent, pour ensuite prendre plus souvent ses eaux usées.

Et faire l'objet d'une ordonnance en ville, n'est-ce pas ?

Mais il dit, vous savez, quels sont les motifs moraux et écologiques pour faire cela ? Tiger permet de faire cela. It was the general recommendation for septic fuses every two or three years. No, in general. Which is her point of view. I think I can't answer all your questions, of course. We're going to examine the question. I think the difference is that a river takes its water, while if your septic fuses overflow, it's really bad. Donc, le passage de 7 à 5 ans est la recommandation de la norme de l'industrie. Et de la date. Oh, mais moins de 5. Mais pas de problème avec ça, c'est... Pour les résidents à l'année, ou... On ne va pas faire la distinction entre l'année et l'année. Mais ce que je dis, c'est que si vous n'êtes là que 3 mois, vous avez... Non, je comprends. On ne peut pas aller de maison en maison et dire, hey, vous êtes un résident à l'année. Ce n'est pas exécutoire. On ne peut pas faire ça. On ne peut pas en... Il faut que ce soit une ordonnance municipale. Sinon on fait de la discrimination entre votre maison et votre maison. On ne peut pas faire ça.

Dan, ce qu'il faut retenir, c'est que ce qu'il y a au fond de votre réservoir... Reste là. Tout l'hiver. Tout l'hiver. Et puis il y a l'eau au-dessus. Qui reste là tout l'hiver. Vous revenez en avril, devinez ce qu'il y a encore. Parce qu'elle n'est nulle part.

D'octobre probablement jusqu'à l'autre fin mars. Plus vous vous rapprochez du rivage, plus devriez être connus. Vous devriez être disposés. Je veux dire, la différence est de 1,91 € par mois.

Quand on passe de 5 ans à 8 ans pour un accompli, on a la différence de coût.

It's not worth fighting. We do it every two years.

I had this argument with my old mother of 29 years old. Why are you sucking the septic tank? Oh, how come the washing machine doesn't work? I saw her go get your mother. By using baby wipes.

How many conversations did I have with her? In English and in Italian.

On ne va pas dans les toilettes.

Alors, passons à autre chose, parce qu'il faut qu'on passe à autre chose. La prochaine étape consiste à voter à la lettre le deuxième avis de propriété en souffrance que nous avons éligé et que j'ai remis au Conseil des élus ce soir. Et je suis désolée de ne pas avoir gardé les copies pour la partager avec tout le monde ici, mais je l'enverrai par email demain. And we will work with harmony. We will put this system in place. We will work with our suppliers to obtain all the correct information.

And it will take time. It will not happen overnight.

But we will work on it. We will work on it. We will make progress.

You will not make it in time. Vous voulez que je vous dise ce qui va se passer ? C'est que ce processus va durer très longtemps. Vous devez vous rappeler que nous sommes confrontés à ce problème en ce moment. Ils ont du matériel en cours de fonctionnement. Et nous sommes entre deux plages. Devinez quoi ? La pression est sur nous. Si cela doit nous prendre un an, ou... Plus pour savoir qui est pollué, qui ne l'a pas fait et qui n'a pas vidé sa fausse sceptique, Deep va intervenir et dire Hey, vous n'avez pas fait votre travail.

Nous faisons le nôtre.

Je vous le dis, c'est comme ça parce que Deep est occupé. Vous n'avez eu à vous en soucier que depuis que vous m'avez rencontré. Je m'occupe de ce problème depuis 2019, donc je... I understand Oedipus' head. And they're not saying anything for now because they're only collecting information.

What's going on with the tests? We haven't come back yet.

Once again.

Let's try to meet Dave and try to talk to Dave. Dave, steps to follow. They won't give us steps to follow. This would include tests.

I would just like to open the handrails.

I would not waste resources to do this if Deep just says that this is not what we told you to do. So we must have an agreement with Deep on our test procedure. And we're not going to do it. We're just trying to get out of it. Martin gives us a calendar where she will find the person, the place, or the regulatory thing. I didn't hear his answers. But with the hierarchies.

We don't have a health director, so she considers that the directors of The Ledge Light are the health inspectors.

The two ladies here have been able to do it because it's a compliment.

They say they won't do it, but Martha wonders why. We'll have an answer. She'll have an answer. But I think we'll need this answer before we go and try to send letters of disagreement. I don't think we're going to send a letter of disagreement. We're going to. I'll send you the letter. I'll send you what Clinton did too. You can both look at it. It's just a second opinion, indicating that you're going to risk a fine. I think that this second person, I know Clinton, has had a lot of success.

And how long did it take Clinton? You asked them this question. It took them some time. Because they use comedy, don't they?

It took them some time. I don't know who they were already, I think they were already under the control of consent and they weren't... I can't swear that I can't remember. You know?

If it took them a year or two, it will take us more time. Because we have already identified the culprits.

I think it's better to show progress than to show no progress. And I think we're going to make progress. If I'm wrong, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm going to send you a letter of passage. You have. Go ahead.

You will not see my name and my two addresses here on any list.