Board of County Commissioners– Board of County Commission Meetings - Regular Meeting

She's ready.

All right, let's... Morning, everybody. Rise with me, if you like, for Pastor John Biggs from Saved by Grace Lutheran Church. Oh, I'm sorry.

Good morning, commissioners, and thank you for having me here today. A word from Romans chapter 12. Paul writes, hate what is evil, cling to what is good, be devoted to one another in love, honor one another above yourselves, share with those who are in need, practice hospitality. Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but respect what is right in the eyes of everyone. And if it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. The word of the Lord. Thanks be to God. Let us pray. Almighty God, you have called us to labor in this world for you and for our neighbor. And without you, we can do nothing. And so we ask you today for your wisdom, discernment, and guidance, both for our Nye County commissioners as well as for all those who are gathered here today. So give our commissioners clear minds, listening ears, and fair hearts as they make decisions affecting our county's budget, infrastructure, and daily well-being. Grant them humility and a deep sense of service to the people they represent. And by your spirit, grant every person who has come here today wisdom in their thinking, grace in their attitudes, and above all, love and courage in their convictions. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.

Amen. Thank you, Pastor. All right, we're going to call this joint meeting of the Nye County Board of County Commissioners at all together. Commissioner Conig, would you like to lead us? I was going to say that. All right, do we have our DA in Tonopah? Yes. Morning, Brian. Hey, can we limit public comment to two minutes, please?

At your discretion.

Thank you. Two-minute public comment. Number two, please.

Item two, general public comment up to two minute time limit per person. Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item.

Thank you very much for that. Come on down, Mr. Pittman, and it is not functioning today, but it will be next meeting.

Steven Pittman, PITMAN. Now that the Department of Environmental Protection has given a green light to Medi-Waste, will you deny building occupancy and operating permits? Who does the inspection of waste to ensure that it does not include prohibited items as specified on pages 3 and 4 of the permit fact sheet? There is as yet no NDEP approved plan for the disposal of residue ash in Nevada. How will the exhaust from the process be monitored and by whom? And Pahrump Valley Fire effectively respond to a fire at the facility. The chief just told me that he has to revisit the facility to see that it is in compliance. This is not the kind of industry Pahrump needs. My second item is why does Commissioner Bain use a personal Gmail account when the other commissioners use the official at nycountynv.gov account that are archived on county servers? Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Yes, Amy Nelson. NEL, SON, a couple of things. The agenda items, people that aren't familiar with what's going on, and even those that are, have a tough time reading what these items are about. It might be the best thing to do is to inform the public what they're about, basically, and in a shorter format. And the other thing is public comment. I was going to ask if you would put it back to five minutes. But I now realize that it doesn't matter that we have public comment. And you would do away with it altogether if you could. And that's unfortunate. You have a good meeting. Thank you.

TODD BANDUCCI. Come on down the front, please.

Good morning, commissioners and everybody. Beth Borisevich, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H. I'm really happy to be here. haven't been here but I have been working really hard behind the scenes you know the dirt racetrack that's up on Basin people were interested in having that renovated however the land has been sold and so it's not available so I've already put together a prospectus investments you name it I've got like a 45 page document that I'd like to talk to somebody on the Commission here so that we can find some land away from homes, not at the fairgrounds for one of these racetracks. It would be a very good income-producing activity for the town, not only in RVs, but in going to the stores and charges for getting into the races. So I think that's a high priority you should put on your list of income-producing activities. The splash pad is a total disgust. Have you guys seen the cease and desist order? You have. You've not shared it with the county. Well, I'll be getting a copy tomorrow, and I'll be sharing it with everybody. We want to talk to somebody about what we're going to do about this. It is the town's money, and Mr. Martinez and his group screwed up royally. We need to fix that big time. Meta waste, you know was approved I've got forms available for people that might want to fill it out and mail it in with potential suggestions and how to fill in all of the different form areas and I've also got the original approval letter that must go with your complaint, so I've been busy and I'll be around a lot again. So don't get mad at seeing me, but I'll be here. Thanks.

Welcome back And I agree with you.

I have a Joey here in Tonopah, please.

Hi, commissioner Javor. Yes, I see her smiling face. Go ahead. Miss Joni. Thank you.

Thank you. I appreciate the opportunity. The old Tonopah cemetery was in use between 1901 and 1911 in Tonopah's very early days until the West end mining company needed to move through that area with its tailings. And included in the burials in that cemetery, besides minors and prostitutes, gun fighters, men, women, and children, are many veterans, more than 20 veterans of the American Civil War, the Spanish-American War, and the Philippine Insurrection. I worked with the Senator Edward D. Baker, Camp 31, Sons of the Union Veterans of the Civil War in Las Vegas. And we ordered headstones through the Veterans Administration, which is free for nine of those veterans of these wars. We are going to be dedicating those headstones, and the reenactors will be coming up from Las Vegas at 1 o'clock on September 6th. That's a Sunday. And we're going to hold a formal dedication of those headstones, and we'll even have cannons there to set off to commemorate this event. Afterwards, there will be a reception at the Tonopah Elks Lodge. This is just an invitation for anybody who would like to participate. Thank you.

Thank you, Joni, and very nice to see you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Come on down, Ms. Hertz.

Good morning, Susie Hertz, H-E-R-T-Z. I would like, if you would please, in your comments section this morning to answer to us who's the person who decides how many minutes the public has to speak and how that's decided. I think we'd all like to know that, having just sprung two-minute limitations on us this morning without warning. Secondly, in that comment section, I would appreciate it if you would reinstate your affirming statements and actions that MetaWaste is not in a position to open a facility here in Pahrump, as has been discussed in the past, and whether or not you're going to write a letter of protest to the Environmental Protection State Agency about it. As you know, we citizens are absolutely not in favor absolutely against metal waste coming into this community and i would hope that you continue to make sure that doesn't happen also i would like to comment and reaffirm the fact that we know that we have limited limited water resources in our water basin. And I would seriously like to know why the RPC is allowed to and doesn't have any kind of direction or limitation regarding approval of massive housing projects and massive industrial projects in our basin. These requests keep coming through.

Thank you, Susie. Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Yes, hi. Patricia Robb, ROBB. Regarding the utility challenge lot, the problem seems to be stagnant when risk analysis becomes risk paralysis because possible solutions that don't further impact our aquifer or burden other taxpayers are rejected over what could go wrong, progress does not happen. So instead of thinking what if something goes wrong, maybe you should be asking, how can we make this work safely for these owners? Based on our interactions with the board over the last year and a half, I'm not sensing that alternatives are genuinely being considered. it feels more like they're continually being pushed aside. Yet our entire community could benefit from supplemental alternatives, not just utility challenge lot owners. We're not saying alternatives are better than conventional utilities, but they do offer a pathway forward for Pahrump where utility infrastructure may not exist in our lifetime, if ever. And saying it could go wrong isn't really a standard. Conventional systems can go wrong too. Wells can become contaminated and septic systems can fail. Yet government doesn't normally say because somebody failed to maintain something, nobody can use it. So are we evaluating alternatives against objective health and safety standards or against belief that conventional utilities are the only acceptable way to meet those standards when alternatives can meet them too? Having supplemental water backup should simply be common sense for everyone. We've identified the problems, proposed safeguards, drafted amendments, ordinances, provided justification, and identified supporting state laws.

Thank you, Patricia.

Now we need to move forward.

Hello, Impromptu. Go ahead, please. Why two minutes?

Good morning. Cheryl Varkalis, V as in Victor, A-R-K-A-L-I-S. On behalf of Pahrump, please submit an appeal to the Nevada Department of Environmental Protection to oppose the metawaste. Time is of the essence and appeals are due by September the 10th. The middle of Pahrump is not the place for this facility that will burn 41 tons a day. They changed that number. In their comment document that was sent out on August 31st, and we haven't had a lot of time to review it, it was originally 16.8. They stated that they corrected an error. So the number has doubled, almost doubled in half, okay? So somebody needs to look at that, please. Hundreds of people attended and spoke at the Nevada Treasures on July the 7th. The meeting room was packed. It was a ballroom, and... Everyone there, except for the folks from Metawaste, were in opposition. But they approved, in-depth approved it, despite 334 public comments. That's their number. They improperly executed mandatory procedural requirements under NAC 444.6419. We have to have a legal basis, and that is one of them. They failed to properly document, publish, or logically factor substantial public feedback into the final decision. They admitted in their response, it simply states, quote, given the volume of comments received, 334 submissions, the division has prepared this consolidated response in lieu of individual responses to each submission, comments, or group by subject matter. And I quote from their response, comments concerning air quality, county land use approvals, transportation, property values, or other matters outside the division's authority are only acknowledged. Last time I checked, air quality is an end-up environmental protection issue.

Thank you very much, ma'am. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Excuse me.

This is Paula Thompson, P-H-O-M-P-S-O-N. I also would like to know if the board will be submitting appeals to oppose the med waste plant in Pahrump. Our community is not a dumping ground for California. Let California deal with their own medical waste on their own land and leave us alone. Thank you.

Thank you. Come on down, ma'am.

Sharon Cruz. Normally, I would say good morning. Excuse me, can you spell it for the record? Sorry, C-R-U-I-S-E.

Thank you.

Normally, I'd say good morning. However, this is not a good morning for the residents. Yesterday, as you all know, the Department of Environmental Protection granted many ways their permit to function here. So I employ all of you to keep the residents of Pahrump safe by taking immediate action to stop many ways from operating in our town. The action of MDEP is outrageous. It's an outrageous disregard for the safety and well-being of those of us living in Peron. They will send daily multiple 53-foot tractor trailers with toxic medical waste from California traveling on our two major roadways, Route 372 with two roundabouts and Route 160, which is the center of town. Not if, but when there is an accident causing toxic medical waste to spill on our roadways, it will shut our town down, causing catastrophic damage to the health and safety of the Rau residents. Just a couple of items that it will cause regarding public health. Exposing... highly infection viruses like HIV, hepatitis B and C, exposing pathogens that are airborne that lead to severe outbreaks of tuberculosis, gastrointestinal infections, and respiratory illnesses. Not to mention the contamination of Basin-162, our only source of water. due to untreated pharmaceuticals, liquid biohazards, and chemical solvents rapidly leaching downward, resulting in our entire water infrastructure being permanently corrupted. Fire Chief Lewis has already stated that his department does not have the capacity to handle a hazardous water spill.

And by the way, the additional... Thank you very much, ma'am. That's okay. I'll leave the rest for... Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? You can leave it with Serena if you'd like.

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Good morning, Commissioners Lorraine, G-I-L-B-E-R-T. Once again, I am sorry I'm not there in person. I am sending you good... energy, solid knowledge to make decisions that matter and make a difference on behalf of those that you represent. I would also just ask you to please not forget those that have been forgotten for the last 50 years, the utility challenge loss owners. Some of you will be leaving this Board of County Commissioners. At the end of this year, let that be your legacy that you finally brought restitution and peace and restored value. I know that the Pahrump Regional Planning Commission was working on a off-grid overlay. I would encourage you to continue to work with them. It does matter and it makes a difference to 7,000 lives. addition the meta waste I am just appalled how that was brought forward when I was at that meeting at Treasures and it was overwhelming the number of people that said no I'm not saying that medical waste isn't needed but not in the location where it is going in. I do not want to drive my car to DMV to renew my text to have to breathe in that stuff. I don't want to shop at Albertsons just down the street and have to breathe that in. I don't want to go to one of my favorite restaurants or cafes or visit shops that I shop in that area. It is just not a safe venture for us. and I would hope that you would use your power and your authority to reverse that decision on those permits. Thank you, Lorraine.

Come on down, Diane.

Diane Southworth, S-O-U-T-H-W-O-R-T-H. For a little levity, I saw on Facebook where we want to make September 25th Dolly Parton Day. And I think it's a great idea. And of course, the reason is the date, 9 to 5. Now, also, I'd like to bring up, that's my good news. The bad news is that the executive orders that the president is putting out about vote by mail and the SAVE Act are unconstitutional. It is up to the states to do their elections. And these are unconstitutional rules. I have sat here many times and listened to people wave their constitutions around over other things. I'd like to see them get out of that one. Thank you.

Thank you, Diane. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Yes, Kimbo.

B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N. I'm concerned that there seems to be a reducing or cutback of public comment. There's a couple of situations on today's that there will be a cutback of public comment and some not allowed. So, you know, the people need to be able to have a voice, even if it seems trivial. Even if it seems off base, we have to have a voice. And that's what we count on. Candidates, pay attention to it. Thank you.

Thank you. Come on down. Please improve.

Daryl Lackey, L-A-C-K-E-Y. The problem that we have here that you guys have is it's the manufactured homes. The people that live in manufactured homes, that's your problem. See, they're not that taxed, you know, not like the big houses with the ceramic tile roof and the block walls, and they're going to be taxed forever, every single time. But also all the developments are all on the infrastructure so that that could be easily piped in from water from, say, Clark County or something like that later on after our water's bad, gone, dead, killing everybody. from your waste, the stuff that you're bringing in. You're bringing it in, and you're trying to chase out the people that don't have a lot of money. That's what it is. I mean, it's all about the money. Your whole lives are just leeching off other people, working for government, not doing anything good, just bringing in more bad, taking the money from the bad elements and just producing it. Whatever trickles down from above, nothing having to do with the people. And God, we trust right behind you. Good thing it's behind you. Something would fall on your head. If you were facing that phrase all day, But, you know, here we are. You know, it's all about the water. So now once the water's bad, all the money-making properties for you guys are all going to be easily fed from a pipe from somewhere else because they're already tied together. They're already on a system. You know that. That's why you got them clumped together. You don't see them all spread out. Once in a while, you'll see another development. Well, like the one right behind. Well, it's all about the water. Well, for you guys, it's all about getting the people out of here that live in manufactured homes. I think that's what your mission is, it's pretty clear. How much money you get from one of those properties got a manufactured home on it of some sort? You don't get much tax money for those properties as you do for the ones with the block walls. Thanks, Gerald.

Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Excuse me, all right, she can leave.

And, Chair, the caller is not unmuted. I'm having a system issue, so if you'd like to take...

Okay, come on down, please.

Thank you.

Good morning, Commissioners. My name is Mary Rose. Last name is Parkman, spelled P-A-R-K-M-A-N. It's a little bit of a tough act to follow, so let me start off with something. There's a Greek philosopher that once said, we have two ears and one mouth. That means to please listen twice as much as we speak. And ironically, here I am speaking. But I'm asking you to listen, please. And my concern is I understand in the instances of August 18 when there were 203 comments between in-person and calls. And I know that there's a budget expectation when that many more calls come in. Why is it necessary for the BOCC to announce two minutes or so into the start of a meeting, or maybe 10.05 a.m., that the comments are reduced to two minutes, when you can tell we don't have 200 people at capacity? So that is a concern. As to MetaWaste, I don't need to repeat too much, but I would implore the the community and BOCC to reach out to Assemblyman Hathan, but I've been told this is a state issue, not a county issue, which I entirely disagree. So I think we need to do the same as there were three, almost 400 people at the Treasurer's Town Hall, which was a very big appeal to Nevada Department of Environmental Protection. So for those reasons, I appreciate you listening twice as much, even though I'm speaking with one mouth. I represent a lot of others. Thank you.

Thank you, ma'am. Sam, anybody on the phone, please? I'm still out of my system. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Imperium, please.

Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON. I was a little late coming in, so I was not aware of the two-minute reduction again. I don't know what the excuse can be for that this time, besides you guys trying to silence us even more. Starting with that, again, I'm requesting for Mrs. Strickland to recuse herself from any and all matters regarding utility companies or data centers. Next, the MediWaste. How in the world did the Planning Commission basically give Medibase a blank check to build whatever they wanted on that site? No inquisition onto what it's entailed, what hazards could be, nothing. And then this board decided it wasn't worth them to review or even to vote on. How is that possible? I'd like an answer on that one. Because now we're screwed. But you guys already knew this, because that's the reason you did it that way. Now, it's the Nevada State Environmental Agency that's trying to get their lawyers to fight our fight for us. This is the most incompetency I've ever seen. And for what you guys get paid, and my apologies. Last time I spoke, I said $260,000. Mr. Wagner, I was wrong. It's $316,000 that you earn a year. So laugh at me now. Laugh at me now. I like... We spend over... We spend $64 million in county payroll, but yet we brought in $57.7 million. Explain that to me. And then we have things like the splash pad. And Mrs. Strickland here is going to sit here and praise Jimmy Martinez for the work done. Are you kidding me? I'd like to know who on here is qualified to even look at a blueprint. Apparently nobody. You guys can't even... Do something like a splash pad, right? Let alone something like the data center or the bedding waste. Sam, anybody on the phone now, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Yes, Ron Mortensen, M-O-R-T-I-N-S-O-N. First, I'd like to congratulate John Koenig on the wonderful job he did of sharing the meeting a couple meetings back. It went very, very smoothly. You know, if we had John Koenig sharing the meetings... Maybe you wouldn't feel the need to restrict the time to get people to speak. Yeah, that's what I got. Thank you.

Thank you. Come on down, sir. Can you mute him or shut him off or something, please?

Good morning.

I don't want to cast any dispersions, but before I get started, can you please spell your name for the record, sir?

Oh, I haven't started yet. I just want to do an insertion before I get started.

No, you've started.

You've changed the rules on me. But anyway, my name is Arthur Hodge, and greetings. I'm a patriot, and God is my shepherd. Media is not a friend of the public at large. I am amazed.

at the lack of empathy and concern for each and every human being on the planet, regardless of their status. Where is the crowd now? Where are the Christian people? Where is their mercy and feelings for other human beings? Where are they? First, I ask the question, when something goes wrong, where is the leadership? Protect and serve. What does that mean? Are they just words? Are they just pertaining to one segment of the population? Where are you finding these people to serve in law enforcement? Are they high caliber or just a body and a uniform? Are they really trained to work with the public? I hear oftentimes with their own regime they have personality conflicts. In this area we need good leaders and good people in that job that really protect and serve. I was motivated by the newspaper. It reminded how blacks, see I'm from that era, were treated in Mississippi by law enforcement in the 60s. This must stop or the saga continues. We must find, we must have well-trained people in these jobs that also have patience.

Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir.

Mr. Hodges, can we have that writ for our records, please? Can you provide, can you give that to staff so we can have it for our records? Please, she can give it to someone. Thank you.

Sam, you got anybody on the phone, please? All right. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

No, Chair.

Come on up, please. Hello.

I can go?

Yes.

Linda Clark, C-L-A-R-K. First of all, I won't say it. I want to thank Ann for giving us the band. I'm not sure how far we're going to get with it, but at least we got something to start with and work with. As far as the other things going on in this town, definitely don't need a waste center. We don't need a glove factory. We don't need a lot of things that you guys have put in front of us. But we keep getting it. We keep fighting. I just want to let you know, elections do have consequences, so be prepared. The other thing I want to say is it's really embarrassing to live in this community and know that we have a government that doesn't support its people. Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

I wonder why the screen's going on that one. No, Chair. Come on up, sir. Tonopah, you do hear us, correct?

Yes, we hear you loud and clear.

Oh, thank you. Go ahead, sir.

Good morning, everyone. Bruce Johnson, J-O-H-N-S-O-N. And first of all, I'm going to question your authority to remove this lady. I'm going to question your authority on your action. So I'm going to start off with a little scripture here. This is Luke 1152, especially since we probably have a couple attorneys out here in the seats. It says, woe unto you, lawyers, for you have taken away the key of knowledge. Ye entered not into yourselves, and them that were entering in ye entered. Now, I'm going to move on to, you guys received a new notice from me this morning. It should be in your inbox. I don't know if you took time to read it or not, but it's only one page. It's pretty simple, and you probably don't give a rat's booty, but I really don't care because it's my quarter record. So this is to all of you, including Brett Wagner, Susan Rye Hall, Steve Osborne, Camerata, Sheriff Joe McGill. It's also addressed to the Supreme Court and Todd Blanch, Donald Trump. And I'll tell you, you sit there and roll your eyes, they already have a copy of this. So this is a notice in demand for liability of all attorneys. Advising upon the rights of the people notice tages notes principle notes principles no stage and I Bruce Johnson One of the people seen in 50 state constitutions of right and exercising power over all jurisdictions and include you Okay, you present you with this notice that you and your agents may provide immediate. Do you care? Please take notice we the people have assembled and realized that as servants that you guys may have attorneys who advise you on what you can do in regards to unconstitutionally exercising power over the people. However, as servants, it is you who put out the action. Thank you, sir. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Okay, that's all right. I'll have a paper copy here.

Come on up in Pahrump, please.

Anthony Greco, GRECO. As... the chair for the Nye County Independent American Party for Nye County and the National Committee for the Constitution Party. On September 17th, we are having a Constitution dinner celebrating George Washington. Our speakers will be telling us about our constitutional, our civil, and our property rights. And we're going to be having some speakers who've been extorted by some people in the community. So that will be at treasures at 6 o'clock at night on September 17 constitution day. Tickets are available. 877 is the phone number.

Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone please.

No, chair, come on down, Tammy. Good morning. Tammy Pittman, PIT, MAN. Meadow East is going to come back to the Board of County Commissioners. Just because NDEP gave them a pass does not mean PRUMP has to approve. Several months ago, the BOCC directed Mr. Osborne to give regular planning and permit status updates at the BOCC meetings. We've not heard from Mr. Osborne since, but the citizens should know there are good news on the horizon. Recently, I learned that Kuby Manufacturing is slating to build a plant here behind Home Depot. Not far from there, at the old racetrack, is a Las Vegas company that manufactures building trusses, which has moved its operations to Pahrump. A large plumbing supply company and Ace Hardware owner are renting the old Goodwill building for two years to house both a plumbing supply company and an Ace Hardware while they build their own facility here in town. And the Silverton is still in the hopper as well. We have lots to celebrate. We do not need to be a toxic waste repository for the Southwest. We have a lot to offer and we deserve better than to live in a toxic soup. As we live in a valley surrounded by 360 degrees of mountains, the toxic gases released when they open those ovens would hang in the valley. Later this month, due to a hard fought appeal, thank you to John O'Brien, you will have the ability to reverse the RPC's decision and we are counting on you. Thank you.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Hello, Commissioners. Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A. Can you hear me? Is my tone and volume okay for you?

I'm sorry. Go ahead, sir.

Hello. Hello. Can you hear me? Go ahead, sir. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. That would be Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A. And once again, I'm still baffled on my free speech and what's protected here. So if it's state and federal guidelines that I'm not allowed to talk about, I respectfully ask for y'all to remove those flags. If I'm not allowed to pray and quote scripture, I'm going to respectfully ask for you to put that sign down in God we trust. And when it comes to fraud, extortion, and official oppression, I just want to remind all y'all when it comes to USC Title 18, subsection 666. Kind of a winky dink, huh? Any of y'all know what that is? I'm sure you haven't had any training, but anyways, that's a theft of federal programs. And may y'all fall in your own traps. Great job, Mr. Hodges, Bruce Johnson, Brecco. We're rising. The true Christians don't have to be asked, who shall I send? They already know. And for all my state and federal representatives, I want you to take note of Deborah Strickland when it comes to women speaking out against Epstein. I'm not allowed to talk about him. She's forsaken it. She's forbidden it. She violated my First Amendment. Take note, women, daughters, sisters, mothers, grandmothers. Who's protecting who? The ALJ's number one asset. It's not just Captain Berkowitz. It's the DEA. Thank you.

Come on down, sir.

Good morning. Darrell Wade, WADE.

I just wanted to thank you all for being here.

Tough crowd today. Have a good day.

Thank you. Sam, anybody else on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Tina Bond Kuglin, K-U-G-L-I-N. As you are well aware, I haven't attended a meeting in a long time publicly because my life is in danger when I'm there. But I'm actually surprised at how many of the public has not stood up to you guys and stopped you from changing policy procedure and protocol that is already in your books that you're supposed to be following. Joe McGill has no authority in those chambers. Those chambers belong to the public. And I'm surprised that the public that is in that room right now is allowing this to go on. This calls for a class action lawsuit which I believe is already in the works against some of the commissioners. I understand that the two of you have lost and you don't care about your behavior or your community anymore. But the disrespect and the disregard to the public, to some of the women, the way you speak to them, Ron, you should be ashamed of yourself. Because I know if I was in that chamber and you spoke to me the way you do, I wouldn't stand for it. You have no authority to remove anybody from those chambers. Those chambers don't belong to you. They belong to the public. You guys are leasing those buildings to use them. And I cannot fathom why no one else is not standing up any time you tell the sheriff to remove somebody from those chambers. When you practice the First Amendment, make sure it's followed by the second and then covered by the fifth. Thank you.

Thank you, come on down Dwight.

Thank you. Good morning. Dwight Lilly, LILY. I'm here to speak out against flock cameras and surveillance systems that we see all across the land right now. And I've done some research on this. And from the flock company's perspective, well, we're just reading license plates and the information disappears after a few minutes. But this is not true. There are cases, example in Kentucky, of a law enforcement officer using the flock camera system to scope out his former girlfriend 2,000 times using the system to track her, where she was going, what she was doing. And this is a complete violation of our Fourth Amendment when you're using a system like that. As I understand, we have one set of flock cameras here in Pahrump. I'd like to see them banned completely. I don't think we can trust a system in place here, be it law enforcement, be it the government itself, to have a flock system type camera system, surveillance system, that could infringe upon people here, be used for nefarious reasons that they weren't designed for. Thank you.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

No, Chair.

Come on down, Mr. Lemus. I think your button's not on there, buddy.

Right there. There we go. Mic check. One, two, one, two. Paul Lemus, L-E-M-U-S. And I'm going to run into a Mark seven quote that came to mind when all this was going on. We're out in the Amargosa Valley area, just a little ways further from you here. And we own land there that's backed up to the Ash Meadows property. So today I wanted to just read real quick. This is by the way, brought to you from the Global Businessmen Fellowship Group. They have asked me personally to read this. And this Bible I'm reading from today is Mr. Jim Marsha, the casino owner's personal Bible that he has lent me to read today, just so it's on the record. For they all saw him. And were terrified. But immediately he spoke with them and said to them, take courage. It is I. Do not be afraid. Then he got into the boat with them. And the wind stopped. And they were utterly astonished. So that's kind of a unique Bible verse to me because it's the accepting of that God is within all of us. It's all of our job to make this stuff right. And these folks are given the tool of this board and local ordinances up to this point. What we're infringing on now is a new beginning of changes. We're having states attack towns, cities. It's a very unique time. But to disregard their power and all the work that they've done in a county to build up this system for all of us would only weaken us. I know it gets frustrating, and sometimes we just want to, you know, kill the messenger. But the messenger is only part of the big picture. We need to make sure that we all consider that the state is who's attacking us.

Thank you. Thank you, Paul. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

No, Chair.

Come on down, Deborah. Deborah?

Deborah Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S. Sometimes there are agenda items in front of this committee and other committees that are the little breakout groups. I don't want to call them breakout groups, but they're, I don't know what you call them. But like, for instance, the finance committee And I think that it would be very helpful to the public if we saw the numbers as well. And I also think it would be very helpful to the public if we had a clue what was going to be talked about so we could do some research on it. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Thank you.

Thank you. Come on down, Gerald.

Good morning, commissioners. Gerald Schulte, S-C-H-U-L-T-E. I normally bite my tongue on a lot of things, but I heard Mr. Lackey get up here and talk some stupid shit. Mr. Lackey, this town has a majority of manufactured homes, and over the last 20 years, they are converted to real property, and they generate a minimum of $2,000 per parcel. per home in this town. You're living in the olden days when you lived in that travel trailer on that little lot that you still live on occasionally and you have no idea what you're talking about again when you come up to this microphone. So I just want to correct what you said. Manufactured home owners pay just as much property tax as any stick built value per value. Thank you very much, Gerald. I appreciate logic.

Come on down, ma'am.

First of all, good morning, commissioners. I hear everybody talking about the MediWaste. I'm sorry, just spell it for the record so I don't get in trouble. Oh, sorry, M-U-S-A-L-L. Thank you. Sorry. That's okay. The MediWaste. I'm not really familiar. I've just recently started coming to these meetings. And I would think from listening to everybody that people who have breathing issues. There's a lot of seniors, and a lot of them have breathing issues. And we already know the dust here is very bad. And people, even children, are warned to stay in the homes when we have high winds. So I would think that the many ways facility would basically affect all of them also. So I just hope you guys take this into effect that we just don't need something like that here. We're trying to better this place, but not make it a city. We want to keep it rural. And all of your decisions you make, I hope you keep that in consideration.

rural nevada we don't want a mesquite we don't want a las vegas so anyway thank you thank you sam anybody on the phone please no chair all right seeing none and we're going to close out public comment unless there's someone in tonopah our screen's not on up there guys for some reason there it is all right so we're going to close that out and move to number three please

Item three, commissioner manager comments. This item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, correction to staff for topics proposed for future board meetings. Lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada open meeting law.

Thank you for that. Sheriff, you're walking. You may as well come on up.

Good morning, Sheriff Joe McGill. This is basically directed at the commissioners and Mr. Coonsey. I would like confirmation, Mr. Coonsey, that NRS 203.090, disturbing a meeting, And 203.030, provoking a commission of breach of peace, would apply to these meetings and give us the authority to take action and remove an individual if asked to? If you need to take some time to look at those, just get back to me, please. If that is the case, it might be time more severe action gets taken in one of these meetings.

So... May I share?

Go ahead.

Also, in the very first thing, in front of the agenda, it states all this. We're allowed to change the time. It's up to this board to conduct this meeting. We're here to do the business of the people, but we have to do the business of the people.

Unless something immediately comes to my attention, I try not to... step out of line or immediately address it. I try to defer to the board. If a board member asks me to remove an individual, I verify that, and then I do.

I appreciate that. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Sheriff, for your help here.

Commissioner Bain, you got anything? Commissioner Chabour. Thank you, Chair. Good morning, everybody.

I would like to hone in and specifically address the meta waste concern, very, very legitimate concern. What a coincidence. We have coming up for October 6th, where District Attorney Kunze and myself, Commissioner Jabbour, we have a public hearing, time and date set, specifically for MetaWaste. And then the public hearing will be on the second meeting of October, October 20th. Please keep in mind that, yes, as I mentioned, the coincidence in depth did give and post a notice. And on that notice, it specifically reads that their deadline to receive, and there is a special form special form to fill out, go to their link, but their deadline is September, uh, September 10th, excuse me, September 10th is their deadline. So try to get in, uh, those responses as quickly as possible. So we don't miss that September 10th deadline. Also, uh, we do have a County ordinance that, um, that's nice that the state end up has posted this notice, but, um, my County, we do have a requirement and an ordinance for to issue a special permit within our County for such a, such a project of this magnitude. So very important. I appreciate all of your concern and your feedback, but we've been working on this and you will be very, very surprised as to the information that comes forward. Thank you again for being here, and I turn it back over to you, Chair. CHRIS RODGERS.

Thank you, Commissioner. Commissioner Strickland.

COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND. Reiterating with Commissioner DeBoer, that was well done. So people were reminded that they can reach out and make comment against the in-depth decision and what our future looks like for hearing this as a board. Thank you. Thank you, Chair.

CHRIS RODGERS. Thank you. Commissioner Koenig.

COMMISSIONER KOENIG. Mentioned many ways and the fact remains that before they can operate they need a permit from us. So there you go and it's the opinion of the district attorney that we come up with a specific ordinance banning any importation of Medical waste into this county from another state. So we'll be looking at that now that being said I It's time.

John's got a new toy. Is it working now?

We'll be using this in further meetings. I'm not using it today because the numbers on the far right there, I can't stand looking at them blinking so quickly. So they're going to black that out for me somehow. Instead of using this, that you have no idea how much time you have left, and you probably can't even hear it go ding, ding, ding when your time is up, this will do it. And it also supposedly makes a noise when your time is up. So get used to this. I asked for it, I don't know, several months ago because some members of the public had asked about it. So we asked, and we have it now. So... Magic. That's all I have. Thank you.

Thanks, Commissioner.

Okay, so I just have a couple quick things.

Somebody had mentioned water. Everybody mentions water all the time. And the reason for that is because you'll hear stories of some wells going dry, some wells having to be punched deeper, and then you'll hear other stories of... wells artisaning in different areas of the town. We have not had a water study in 20 years, I believe. 20 years. So I had mentioned Bakersfield had done a LIDAR study where they fly over and they basically radar down into the ground. They know how much water there is there. I mentioned that to some members of the water board. And they're like, well, you know, those aren't, I don't know if that's reliable. And so the the bottom line and the end of the the end of it really is none of us at this point really know where we are on water um we're all in that same boat none of us want to go dry i mean i've got land that i don't want it to be useless either so there's that so the study should be coming eventually next year and uh the sooner the better i was told it would be this year but So there's that. Secondly, I also mentioned at our last meeting from a position of we're all residents here, we're probably all property owners, and none of us want to be hurt anymore. I mean, I was affected deeply by the 1293 order several years ago, made property I had overnight just worthless. which got upheld by the freakin' Supreme Court, but anyway. So I mentioned last meeting that regarding the data center, and I'm not, I didn't like that location for the data center, but I'm not opposed to data centers somewhere out, out, away, where they're not gonna harm. Am I timed now, John? So I mentioned that we're in this together and we need to be very careful because people in Clark and in the state have told me, well, you know, we don't really give a damn what Nye County says because we're going to do what we want to do on the Clark side. And Nye may think they can fight us and they may think that they can do this and that, but we have unlimited resources to fight them until they're broke. Two days after our last meeting when I brought this up to all of us here, a different company, other than the one that was proposing to come here on Mance, a different company applied with the BLM for a 1,000-acre data project just on the Clark side using the same dam basin. And if that were ever to be approved or move forward, Clark gets any benefit there would be, and they still suck the water right out of 162, which, again, we don't know how much is there. So it's just, I mean, we don't always have to agree on everything, and you don't even like each other or not, but we are here together. So we better be figuring something out. And that's all I got. Managers, directors, anybody? Yeah, you want a pee break?

Chair, I have the clerk.

Oh, go ahead. Ladies first.

Appreciate that, Chair. I just wanted to throw out a couple of numbers. We have 46 days until early voting. We are there. We are getting ready to start our mail-in ballots. Speaking of mail-in ballots, you guys have until September 4th. If you do not want a ballot, please go to my office. They're on the website. They're on the state's website, the forums. If we receive them by the fourth, then we will not have to mail them. That's the only way we can not mail 37,000 ballots. If you've already done it, we have it. But if you haven't and you are one who wants to vote in person, swing by either one of the offices again online and pick that up for me. And I think that's it. Thanks.

Thanks, Corey. Nice to see you. Go ahead, Arnold.

Good morning. My name's Arnold Knightley. I'm the public communications manager for Nye County. I want to correct a statement made at the last meeting regarding the county's handling of public records requests. The sheriff stated, and I quote, as a point of comparison, the county has three people who do public records requests, and she does three times as many, more. She does more by herself than three people do for this county, end quote. The primary correction is the assertion the county has three people handling public records requests. This is not accurate. The county has one public records administrator. The county created the position in 2002 in response to rapidly increasing workload. The year before the position was created, the county received 346 public records requests. By the end of last year, the number had increased approximately 189% to 1,000, and the workload continues to grow. Through August 2026, yesterday, The county has received 772 public records requests, a 15.4% increase over this same period last year. In August alone, the county received 131 requests compared with 82 in August 2025, an increase of nearly 60%. At the current pace, the county is projected to receive approximately 1,150 public records requests in 2026. The workload cannot be measured simply by counting the number of requests received. August requests alone involved approximately 562 individual documents. There are currently 26 open records requests, including 16 that involve reviewing emails. Approximately 42 requests during 2026 have required email review, and one current request alone involves reviewing more than 4,000 emails. Individual requesters can also significantly impact the workload. Since April, one requester has submitted 32 public records requests, nine of which remain open. These figures demonstrate a substantial and growing public records workload for the county's one person. Meaningful comparisons should be based on documented request volumes, the number of complexity records being sought, and the time required to locate, review, redact, and produce responsive records. This is not intended to dispute or diminish the workload being experienced by the sheriff's office. We have a great relationship with her records person and work together often. She does a great job, particularly in an era where social media and increased public attention can generate significant demand in records. Oftentimes, those records are used for clicks. It's intended to correct the record regarding county staffing and provide an accurate picture of the challenges the county faces in responding to public records requests.

Thank you, Your Honor, but I need you to spell your name for the records.

Knightley, K-N-I-G-H-T-L-Y. Thank you.

Come on up, Tammy.

Good morning, commissioners. Tammy Engel, E-N-G-E-L. First of all, I need to say hi, Erica. And then I wanted to bring to your attention that the Sheriff's Office is hosting, along with Vitalant, a badge of honor blood drive on September 10th and 11th. On the 10th, it is from 9 to 3, and on the 11th, it'll be from noon to 6. And this is at the Pahrump Nugget, and we hope that you will stop by and donate some much-needed blood for our area. Thank you.

Thank you. Come on up, Chief.

Good morning, Commissioner Scott Lewis, LEWIS, Town and Prom Fire Chief. I want to remind everyone that the burn moratorium remains in place. We averted a near disaster again yesterday in wind-driven conditions, high fuel loads with an unauthorized controlled burn on the property in the South End of Valley. That burn impact is three other properties including one property that had a lot of materials stored on including vehicles so we're reminding everyone to lease november 1st no burning thank you thanks chief sam any managers or directors on the phone please no chair all right we're going to close that out and move to uh well we'll do four and five and then take a break four please

Item four, approval of the agenda for September 1st, 2026. We are going to be pulling in consent items, 11.3 A, but we will still consider B. And also pulling item five, emergency items.

All right, thank you for that. Okay, let's take a 10 minute potty break.

We're ready, Antonio Pacheco.

All right, we're ready when you guys are.

Okay, indeed. Yeah, good.

All right, we're ready. Manager number six, please.

Item six, 10 AM timed item for possible action. Public hearing. Sir?

Sir?

Mr. Hodge. Go ahead, manager. 10 a.m. timed item for possible action, public hearing, discussion, and deliberation to adopt, amend, and adopt or reject Nye County Bill number 2026-12, a bill proposing to amend Nye County Code Title 17, Comprehensive Land Use Planning and Zoning, by amending Chapter 17.10, entitled Pahrump Regional Planning District, relating to Section 17.04, 110 definitions by adding the definition of a dwelling unit, ADU, amending the definition of dwelling or dwelling unit by removing or dwelling unit, amending section 17.04.210 RH 9.5, rural homestead residential section 17.04.215, RH 4.5, Rural Homestead Residential, Section 17.04.220, RE2, Rural Estates Residential. 17.04.225, RE1, Rural Estates Residential. 17.04.230, Suburban Estates Residential, Section 17.04.240, VR20 Village Residential, and 17.04.245, VR10 Village Residential, by adding an accessory dwelling units and standards to permissive uses and removing mobile homes as temporary residences with temporary use permit and providing for the severability constitutionality and effective date thereof and the other matters properly relating thereto. And I know there's a typo in here, Celeste, on the 17.10, I think that should be 17.04 in the agenda item, so. Just correcting that on the record. Perfect. Good morning, Celeste. Good morning.

Celeste Sandoval, S-A-N-D-O-V-A-L, Assistant Planning Director. As Brett has stated, we had received an application in, and they would like to add the definition of accessory dwelling unit, and the applicants are here for any questions. If you have anything, they are the experts in the manufactured homes for what they're wanting to add.

Cool.

Thank you very much for that. So I think what we're going to do is open public comment. Oh, wait a minute. Go ahead.

Do you mind if we do it a little different here and ask questions from the applicants? Sure. Go right ahead. Could you state your name and spell it for the record?

Gerald Schulte, S-C-H-U-L-T-E, Factory Home Center.

Talisha? Talisha Haskew, factory home center as well, H-A-S-K-E-W.

Excellent. So we evidently have some holes in our rules that you've come up with an idea of how we could do a better job when it comes to these ADUs. And I just was wondering if you'd give a little explanation about what those changes are when it comes to kitchens and et cetera, because that's what base one is.

So, well, currently, right now, the only thing that we're trying to get changed is any of these zones that already allow a site-built casita, which does not have a fully functioning kitchen, we're trying to get included in that definition an ADU unit. That's not in addition to a casita. We just want to say, okay, if you're going to do a casita, you can also do an ADU. Whether that's going to be a site-built or manufactured, we want to be included in that. Assembly Bill 396 has already been passed. And that is in the state of Nevada. They've already passed it to where the larger counties and cities already allow for ADU units. Clark County has allowed it for years and years. We've done it for years and years there. They've actually even removed the waiver requirements, and we don't have to get any type of approvals from neighbors or anything like that. But it's just something that we want to be included in because right now you have to have a temporary use in order to have a manufactured home placed on a private piece of property. We have to go through all of the permitting, all of the zoning. We have to do soils reports. We have to do our engineer type two pads, our block work. We have to pay so much money in order to get these homes on these properties, and then it has to be renewed every single year. Once that medical need is no longer, they have to remove that home. And now whenever you take into account years on these homes, Clark County, you're only allowed to put a home that's six years or newer. And a lot of the other jurisdictions have those same type of rules. So now what are these people going to do with these homes whenever they can no longer have them on their pieces of property? And people also have a misconception of what brand new manufactured homes look like. They're two-by-six construction. They're built just as well as a site-built home. You can do exterior stucco. You can do tile roof if you want. You can do metal roofs. I have a few pictures of some of our homes that we do have, but they've definitely changed over the years, that's for sure.

Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Ms. Galicia.

And the great thing is they'll be converted to real property and generate a lot more tax revenue, as we previously discussed.

Oh, yes. There we go.

The only time that it's not is if somebody is going to do a chattel loan and they have to finance the home only. But once that's paid off, they can then tie it. I've already checked with Manufactured Housing Division. They said it's a land use thing and it has nothing to do with them. So you can have two homes converted to real property on one site.

Perfect. Thank you. All right. Let's now open public comment. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Yes, Amy Nelson. Any L-S-O-N. I'm not quite sure why they need to have a two-by-six manufacturer at home. And I'm really suspect that these will be used in addition to other things that are going on, like the solar farms. They might want to put one out there. and so forth. And I'm just really suspect to changing our master plan this early in the game. I'm really suspect to any of those changes. So I hope you really consider what this is going to mean for all of us in the future. Thank you.

Come on down, Beth.

Beth Borasevich, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H. I'm speaking as a regular citizen that owns a home here in town and not an RPC commissioner. My issue with this is that we have a mobile home company that wants us to change our code so that they can sell more homes. They want us to be like Las Vegas, Henderson. We're a rural, small town. Why would we put another mobile home on a lot instead of putting a smaller unit that doesn't encompass 30 or 40 feet? It just doesn't make sense to me. The bottom line that I'm hearing out of all of this, oh, also I do know that both of the homes on the property can just be rentals. So instead of it being an ADU to help your family or some relative or whatever, they could just rent them all out forever, and then what? But they want to sell more mobile homes. I am not in favor of this. We're rural. We don't want to put all the homes on all the land. Can you imagine how that would look? Oh, my God. Anyway, I just am not in favor of this. Thank you.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

yes can you hear me yes ma'am sorry that's okay i didn't mean to provide it for you it's very isolating trying to figure out if i'm being heard or not on on this line i can't see you no i appreciate it but can you can you please spell your last name just for the record Yes, my first name is Kapua, K-A-P-U-A. I spell it because it's unusual here. Johnson is my last name, J-O-H-N-S-O-N. I'm calling in because I've been listening to the complete meeting. And the irony that I'm hearing is just so strong because here we are, we have speakers who are protesting against manufactured homes, this would be people buying one by one, buying manufacturing homes. And yet we have these huge housing developments that were not there when I bought my vacant land, my vacant lot 40 years ago. And now we have the attempted introduction of the data center. Now we're looking at a medical waste dumping site. The irony between a few people, landowners, getting begging for their utilities to be put in or even allowed, and yet there's five casinos, a pool, a man-made lake. Excuse me, where is the practicality here? And are we supposed to accept that? As prompt vacant lot owners who are being denied everything, we're supposed to say, well, that's okay. It's not okay. It is not okay with us. And you have not heard the last of us. We will be at every single meeting until something is done. And this irony, this blatant conflict of interest.

Thank you, ma'am.

Chair, I believe that Ms. Capua didn't realize that we are on an agenda item. Yeah, I think she was on that.

I think, yeah. OK, Sam, or no, come on down, sir.

Thank you, commissioners, for your time and consideration. I strongly support the tax amendment. Sir, can you spell it for the record?

I'm so sorry.

Yeah, I'm sorry. Reggie? Federal, F as in Frank, E-D-R-O. Thank you. Again, thank you, Commissioners, for your time and consideration on this subject. I strongly support the Tax Amendment 41 and Bill 2026-12 because it aligns our housing code with existing frameworks. while providing our community with a practical and lasting option. Small manufactured homes are currently permitted only in circumstances tied to medical necessities. When that condition ends, the unit must be removed, even after residents invest over hundreds of thousands of dollars, you know. for one of these manufactured homes. This creates a financial risk for families and caring for loved ones. Bill 2026-12 allows manufactured homes to remain on residential lots, making them permanent housing solutions, like casitas, already permitted in our code. That gives these families the stability they need when making such a major investment. Manufactured homes are built to strict HUD standards. HUD standards, that's really good. That's better than what we have now. They're registered solutions that expand options beyond casitas, offering different price points and stability for various family needs. For medical necessity or general affordability, families deserve access to code-compliant permanent housing that fits their circumstances. By providing this lawful alternative, we expand housing options, give families certainly that their investments won't be lost. Thank you. We respect...

Thank you very much, sir. Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Hello, Commissioner. It's Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A. Can you hear me okay?

Yes.

Thank you, thank you. I appreciate that enthusiasm. That was a delight, huh? Anyhow, my specific comments about this agenda item is the constitutionality, which obviously there's some folks on the other side of the microphone a little weak So I would like to address that part. You know, the Fifth Amendment is due process, and I heard something about the takings. Anybody want to address that? Maybe we should be on the record with my comments when I remind the sheriff that he's a host of the Constitution and not rules, ordinances, and statutes. How about a newsflash, Sheriff? It's not a metro badge. You're not in courts and policy. Let's get indoctrinated. Where's the constitutionality, Mr. DA?

Do you all know the difference between legal and lawful?

You're treading again. Be careful. It's not a threat. It's a right to practice with the Bill of Rights. And the 10th Amendment is king. Thank you.

Go ahead, Anthony.

Anthony Greco, GRECO. I think they should be able to get this. If you're trying to keep families together and taking care of each other, there's nothing wrong with that. People don't like the way it looks. It's probably not going to be garbage if Gerald is doing this because he's a good business person. And he's been in the community a long time, and we need to take care of our families. So I think they should be able to have this. Thank you, sir.

Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

My name is Matt Sadler, S-A-D-L-E-R. And anything that we can do to expand opportunity for people enjoying their properties, helping out their families, we need to go ahead and make that happen. This is definitely a reasonable ordinance, a reasonable proposal that we can kind of codify here. So I'm all for it. And in the future, expanding our rights on our own lands and to be able to enjoy our properties to a lot of new ideas in the future. Thank you very much. Have a good rest of your meeting.

Thank you. Come on down, Dwight.

Yeah, Dwight Lilly, L-I-L-L-Y. I think we need to end the stigma of manufactured homes once for all and stop calling them mobile homes and start calling them homes because that's exactly what they were. Forty-six years ago in the state of Washington, Mount St. Helens blew its top and floating down the Calais River was a Green River mobile home. The homes that got washed away were all pieces, but the mobile home was floating down the river. That's how well it was built. So we need to remove from our zoning, I believe, any restrictions having to do with a term mobile home. We just call them home. And this solves a housing situation that families can remain together forever. You don't have to create some situation where they have to go get a site-built builder to come out and do it. You can have it done right in a factory, moved in. It's not going to be moved again once it's put on the property. This is not the long, long trailer days of Lucille Ball. This is 2026, their home. So I hope that the county planning, whoever does the planning, The writing up of the ordinance is going to just remove the name mobile home and just call it homes. That would solve the problem right there.

Thanks, Dwight. I completely agree with you. Come on down, Susie.

Susie Hertz, H-E-R-T-Z. I don't really favor this change of ordinance because it ultimately is not that we need to be like Las Vegas. We're not Las Vegas. We don't need to be like them and we don't need to follow their rules and we don't need to emulate them. We're a small rural town. If you can find a way to allow for temporary housing for people on their properties without it looking and sounding like Las Vegas, then perhaps we should entertain that. But that is a basis for this ordinance I don't think is terribly healthy. And this is one manufactured home builder. There are others out there. And there's no consensus that has come from other builders who are out there to support this. And so it seems a little one-sided in terms of who's proposing this change. So I'm personally not in favor of it. Thank you.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please? No, Chair. Come on down, Mr. Lally.

Okay, here we go. Chris Lally, L-A-L-L-Y. Good morning, Commissioners. I just wanted to speak briefly in support of the proposed ADU ordinance. I actually think this is a practical change that the kind of housing flexibility we should be encouraging in Pahrump Allowing a property owner to have one guest residence or an approved ADU while keeping it limited to 1,500 square feet, to me, seems like a reasonable balance. For a lot of families, this could mean a place for an aging parent, an adult child trying to get established, or simply an opportunity for multiple generations to live close to one another while still having some independence. I also appreciate that the ordinance allows both site built and qualifying manufactured homes. That gives residents options without simply removing standards. My only request would be to make the process and requirements as clear as possible to property owners so people understand up front what they can build and what approvals will be required. Overall, though, I think this is a sensible change and I do support it moving forward. Thank you, guys.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

No, Chair.

Come on down, Linda.

Linda Clark, CLARK. So it's my understanding you don't really want the little homes. You'd prefer to have bigger trailers. Okay, who can afford all that? I was raised in a little tiny two-bedroom, what I call trailer trash place in Lancaster with five kids and my mom living in a little trailer. If my mom had to go through what this is to make her buy a bigger mobile home, She worked as a waitress supporting five kids. I'm sure we have people here like that. How can they do that? They can't. And that was in the days before we got welfare and SNAP and all this other stuff we're giving out today. So if a person has something now and it's working for their family and they're keeping it up, why do we need to make them change? It makes no sense to me at all. They are people that live here and they deserve a home. Thank you.

Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please? No, Chair. Come on down, Diane. I think we're all saying the same thing.

Diane Southworth, S-O-U-T-H-W-O-R-T-H. Well, at my age, and I am the queen of my own manufactured home, I can tell you that there could be a time when I would need to be closer to my family and have to live in a little one-bedroom house or casino or manufactured home. I also saw some really cute plans. They look like little log cabins that you build yourself for $25,000. And they're completely done, and they have a front porch on them and stuff. So there's options out there. I'd say that when I first read it, I thought they were going to do away with the manufactured homes. But after listening to them, I think it's a wonderful idea. And you never know what your family circumstances are going to be. Thank you.

Thank you. Come on down in front, please.

Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON. Again, like somebody else mentioned, I believe that there is a misconception about manufactured homes. They are built in a factory and they're brought in in two pieces, and there are some that are two stories high. And at times they're built better quality than stick built. I think what the proposal here is, I think it's a necessity in this town because there are so few rental options and fewer options of affordability for a lot of people. I don't know how anybody else was brought up, but I was brought up, my parents, you know, live with you and you take care of them as they age. And this will definitely help with that. So I think it's more than just, you know, something that they want. I think this town needs it to help with a lot of the living situations a lot of people are in. So, good luck.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Hi, Tim Bohannon, B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N. Yeah, this is really an easy, easy call on this one. There's other similar towns our size and a little bit beyond that this is not a major issue, but some major importance. especially housing for where we have here, we do need that help. And this provides that opportunity, and I'm in favor of passage. Thank you.

Thanks. Go ahead, Bob. Robert Adams, ADAMS. Most of Clark County residents live in a metropolitan area, but it's a huge place with lots of rural communities. The people in them are real proud about being in a rural community. And Just because it's a rule or a law or ordinance that Clark County passed doesn't mean we shouldn't consider it. There's a whole new technology as far as the small homes right now. Right now the Internet's full of these what's called capsule homes that get unloaded off a flatbed and just kind of build themselves. I guess the big challenge is getting it set on the proper ground, hard ground, and get the utilities to it. But our planning really needs to catch up with all the new technologies, the tiny homes that are out there available. And this is a good step in the right direction and maybe expand a little bit to include some of the new stuff that's out there. Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Tammy Pittman, P-I-T-M-A-N. Great idea. However, I think it could be abused. And I think there should be an addition to the ordinance saying that at least the homeowner must be on the property. They can't rent out multiple. They can't just leave and rent out both homes. Because when you live there, you care. When you're renting, things can go downhill. And sometimes some landlords are not the shiniest. Thank you.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Dr. Kapua, K-A-P-U-A Johnson, J-O-H-N-S-O-N. I am in favor of passing this proposal for a manufactured home as an ADU. It's practical. It's feasible for many people. I think we need to do it. Thank you.

Thank you. Come on down, Paul. Yeah, I know. I love it. Right to the point. Oh, well, hell.

Hello. Paul Lemus, L-E-M-U-S. Are you folks applicants? Oh, how many units are you trying to build, if you don't mind me asking?

So we got to just have you comment. I can't go back and forth.

If it's OK with them, may I ask permission to ask some questions?

The rules are the rules.

OK. Yeah, sorry. OK, OK. No, the reason why I was saying, though, these developments come in and they do subdivide. But like in Amargosa Valley, where we're at, we have something called land use entitlement rather than zoning. And we kind of roll back zoning. and put it into the people's hands where they have a right to say, do they want to build? Do they want to grow? Do they want to farm? Do they want to do agriculture? So land use entitlement is another designation. I was just going to make a suggestion. As a planning guy that sat on the planning committee in Amargosa Valley, and worked on the comprehensive area plan for Nye County and also Amargosa Valley, it would be wise to just consider. That's fantastic. And then when you do that type of project, you could also do like an approved plan and allow all the other members of the community to also go ahead and do a pre-approved plan to just be able to fast track these for everybody in the community if somebody wanted to. Because right now, our thing is capital. We need money. And this would generate a ton of tax revenue. I mean, where we're looking at in Amargosa Valley, if you were to subdivide some of those lots and actually occupy them, we could solve a lot of our problems with our tax debt and with our commissioner and our Nye County debt right now. So I was just going to say, I think for the project, as far as their approval is concerned, that's what I wanted to ask was their personal approval. I'm for the people. I want to see the people be able to do what they want with their land and be able to make some money. be able to subdivide them if they want, and be able to sell them and have the rights to do what they want with their property. So that's land use entitlement.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

No, Chair.

Come on down, sir.

Hello, members, everybody. Bruce Johnson, GOHN, SOM. You know, I'm all for making necessary changes in order to be able to bring in optional housing facilities, structures. I don't want to see it be limited to just manufactured homes or what everybody is classifying as manufactured homes. There are actually great homes that are built out of shipping containers. I'm in development with somebody on building basically a steel stud type of structure that is actually going to be sited with lightweight concrete so that it is fireproof. It will not be able to burn unless you catch something on fire on the inside. And I find that as being something that could be very useful for a lot of people out here in our climate. So I want to see to it that everybody keeps an open mind so that we can have some other options. Let's not keep it limited to just manufactured homes that everybody knows that comes in on a trailer. And I'll yield. Thank you.

Thank you. Come on down, ma'am.

Good morning. Julia Musall, M-U-S-A-L-L. This is actually kind of ironic that it's on the agenda today. I have a manufactured home, three bedroom, two bath. My mother is almost 92, and I'm trying to talk her into coming here. But my mother still drives, plays billiards, gardens, plays bocce ball, and she did not want to come because she likes her independence. Even though she still needs somebody to be around her, and we talked about putting something on the property, it doesn't have to be a big, huge manufactured home. They have smaller manufactured homes. And why put all that money into it and then have somebody have to remove it? Because you don't, especially nowadays, Our economy is so bad that I'm sure there's plenty of family members that would be able to use the ADU. And so anyway, I am for it, and I hope you guys approve it. Thank you.

Thank you. Sam, anybody else, please?

No, Chair.

Okay, we're going to close out public comment. Commissioners, do you have questions for... The applicants were selected.

No, I just have statements, if you don't mind.

Go right ahead.

There was stuff that was said. I understand that it's 1,500 square foot or less, and we already have casitas, which are site-built. The difference, what this does, is we already have a site-built capability. Now we're going to have a manufactured-built capability. Manufactured could be basically a lot of different things, not just manufactured housing as we see it from factory home center. I also found it very interesting that 14 people actually agreed with this. Wow. I'm floored. We actually agree on something. Thank you, Chair.

Thank you. Commissioners up north, you got anything for us? Mr. Chair? Yes, go ahead, sir.

If there's nothing else, I'd like to make a motion.

I'd like to hear one.

And Mr. Chairman, may I just very briefly? My only question is that manufactured homes is a term, and I'm supportive of this, but just the ambiguity that was just inserted, this could be more than just manufactured homes. I'm just questioning what that means. A manufactured home can be, depending on who you're talking to, different things. Anyone who uses certain systems knows a manufactured home. is commonly referred to as a mobile home. That's fine. When it's attached, it has a certificate of attachment, and some guy goes and takes three bars and twists them, and then he signs the magic piece of paper that says this is now attached. It gets filed with the assessor, and it becomes real property. The legal definition of real property, of course, is separate, and so we could talk about this for 35 minutes. I won't do that. My question is, just bluntly and directly, is that this only pertains to manufactured housing that is attached? Is that correct? Can anyone answer that question?

So no, it's not. You can do either a site-built ADU or you can do a manufactured home that is an ADU. So now if you're going to be financing the home as a chattel loan, it will maintain its personal property status, but after it's paid off, then it can be converted. If it's cash or if they want to absorb it, do like a refi or something like that, then it would be converted to real property. It just depends on the specific circumstance.

Also, I want to point out that in the year 2000, Senate Bill 323 took the discrimination of manufactured homes away and identified them as single family dwellings. And that allowed manufactured homes to go in subdivisions alongside conventional built, stick built homes without discriminating against them. So manufactured homes in the state of Nevada are considered single family dwellings.

Okay, so the question, first of all, Fannie Mae's not going to buy that. So it would have to be a hard money loan. And it just causes a lot of complications. I hope for anyone listening genuinely understands that Fannie Mae, I don't know if FHA will insure it. This goes way into inside baseball stuff. But Fannie Mae's not going to buy that, probably. And so there will be a lot of issues there. That has nothing to do with this law. But again, I'm just questioning just for the legislative record. The intent of this is just for... There's manufactured homes that are attached. There are manufactured homes that are not attached. Both are commonly purchased in Nye County and that's fine. But how do we distinguish the difference between if I just rolled up a, I don't know, a pickup truck with some crazy looking thing on the back of it and I'm living out of there, that could be considered an accessory dwelling unit under this bill?

I want to point out that Anything can be an accessory dwelling. Connex boxes that are converted and engineered into housing. Boxable, which is a company that is growing by big numbers, that build casitas and ADUs. They are regulated through the Manufactured Housing Division, along with what I sell. And I'm not the only one. Even though I'm bringing this bill, I'm speaking for the industry in general. We've got Craftsman Homes that is going to applaud if we get this passed, because they're going to be able to sell more homes, too. I'm not doing this to sell more homes. We've got Clayton Homes out of Vegas, which is a very big catalog store. And we've got all kinds of internet dealerships. They're all going to be selling homes. And they're not just factory-built homes. They're all kinds of homes. that are gonna fit this bill.

I'd also, Celeste Sandoval, S-A-N-D-O-V-A-L, like to state that we do have a section of code in 1704 that deal with manufactured housing and factory built homes that does set an age limit. It does state that they have to be converted to real property so they aren't just able to come in.

Thank you. No, I appreciate that. I think that addresses it. And this is just manufactured home housing. Is that a yes, no question? Is that yes? Is that correct? Yeah, I'm fully supportive. And I think we're fine. Part of this was just me trying to let people know that just be aware. I, in my business, have a lot of people who don't really understand. And there's a lot of places in my county that fall in this. And they don't understand that Fannie Mae won't buy this. And if Fannie Mae won't buy this, your friendly broker around the street probably doesn't want to originate it. That's a whole long thing. But just reach out if you have any questions about what you have or what you're doing. I'm sure that Mr. Schulte is... as a great resource for this, go to him or go to anybody who does this for a living and they'll be able to explain all that stuff to you. I am supportive of this bill. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you.

I just wanted to touch a little bit on the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. This would be for subsequent, like say that you already have a home and you have an ADU unit on there. I actually did check. There's some lenders that won't do it. There's some lenders that will. So Fannie Mae will not, but FHA, you can. That's Freddie Mac. So you would just have to do an FHA loan is what you would have to do and make sure you talked to your particular lender to make sure their underwriters will approve. And the one thing that I did find is the homes that people have where they have two homes on there already, they were not approved through the county as an ADU. So the way it zoned, or land use, it says it's two single family residences. And that's one of the underwriter's issues. It has to be listed as an ADU unit, not two single family residences.

Thank you, ma'am. Yeah, FHA is an insurer. Fannie Mae is a purchaser. They have to have a funding source. It gets really confusing. I'm just telling people, I'm not trying to scare people. Just make sure that you know what you're doing if you're going to do this and just find out first from someone like Mr. Schulte or whoever handles these things professionally. Thank you, sir. Thank you, madam.

Thank you. Commissioner Koenig, are you ready?

I'm ready. I would like to make a motion to adopt Nye County Bill 2026-12 with an effective date of September 21st, 2026. Second. Four seconds.

We have a motion on the floor in two seconds. I'm going to call for the vote.

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Aye. Aye. Item seven, 10 o'clock a.m. for possible action, public hearing discussion and deliberation on A, CCMP26-4, an application for a major master plan amendment to change five parcels, 78.99 acres from rural density residential to low density residential to conform with a proposed zone change located at 1810 South Parsons Road, 1811 South Butler Street, 3310 East Winery Road, 3440 East Winery Road, and 3120 East Winery Road, Prep, Nevada, 89049. Assessor's parcel numbers, 027-451-13027-45106, 027-45107, 027-45108, 027-45109. Dennis Scott Sheldon, property owner, Thomas Helms PLS, Weyer Engineering Inc. Agent Applicant B, ZCMP25-12, a conforming zone change to change six parcels totaling 79.43 acres from Village Residential VR 20 to Village Residential VR 10 for the proposed residential subdivisions to create 198 single family lots ranging from approximately 10,000 to 20,000 square feet located at 1810 South Parsons Road, 1811 South Butler Street, 3310 East Winery Road, 3440 East Winery Road, 3020 East Havasu Street, and 3120 East Winery Road, Port Nevada, 89049. Assessor's parcel numbers, 02745113, 04272108, 02745106, 02745107, 02745108, 02745109. Dennis Scott Sheldon, property owner. Timothy Sutton, ESQ agent applicant. And C, certify prompt regional planning commission resolution 2026-03, a resolution to amend the master plan designation within the prompt regional planning district located at 1810 South Parsons Road, 1811 South Butler Street, 3310 East Winery Road, 3440 East Winery Road, and 3120 East Winery Road, Port Nevada 89048, assessor's parcel number 02745113, 02745106, 02745107, 02745108, 02745109, Dennis Scott Sheldon, property owner, Thomas Helms, PLS, Dwyer Engineering, Inc., agent applicant.

Thanks, Lorena. Hello, Kiana.

Hello. Kiana Medici, Q-I-A-N-A, M-E-D-I-C-I, principal planner. The Preparational Planning Commission heard this item at their July 15, 2026 meeting. After discussion of the items, the PRPC voted four to two to recommend approval to the Board of County Commissioners. And we are here with the applicant. If you have any questions.

All right. Thank you for that. So I think what we're going to do is open up public comment. So come on up.

Good morning. Julianne Musall, Amazon Mary USALL. This application is procedurally flawed and violates Nye County Code Title 17 due process. First, the developer completely failed to hold the mandatory neighborhood meeting. This workshop is a strict prerequisite under our zoning codes. It is designed to give local citizens a voice before an application moves forward. Bypassing it entirely strips the community of our legal rights to due process. A developer's application is legally classified as incomplete. The Pahrump Regional Planning Commission failed to uphold county code regarding neighbor notifications. They approved a recommendation for this despite a documented breach of bill number 2023.09. Because the developer skipped the mandatory community outreach, we asked the Board of County Commissioners to exercise its final authority, reject the recommendation, and deny the applicant and developer's application. The recommendation of approval is legally compromised because it was built on a broken notice process. Nye County chose to protect its residents by adopting title 17 zoning code I already filed a formal complaint with the Planning Department regarding this structural violation voting to approve this project today is creates a dangerous precedent and exposes the county to legal appeals over notice and due process failures. For the protection of Pahrump residents and the integrity of our land use laws, I strongly urge the board to reject this. Thank you.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Hello, Commissioner. It's Michael David Garcia, GARCIA. And if it's okay with y'all, I'd just like to know that my communication is okay and our line is active. Can you acknowledge?

Go ahead, sir.

Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate the engagement. Kudos to the last speaker. Really well said and articulated. And the thing that caught my ear and hopefully our state and federal partners is the affiliated disclosure when it came to Tim Sutton. So that's how easy it is to go ex parte. Thank y'all.

Come on down, Beth.

Beth Borasevich, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H. I'm speaking on this as a regular person. and not a representative of the RPC. I want everybody to be sure and listen to this. This is 198 homes on top of the approximately 9,000 homes that are already in the pipeline being proposed on property with known flooding concerns. So we're talking 9,900 homes. What the hell?

Let's just go ahead and build homes for the heck of it.

The applicant proposes berms and detention basins on the property to hold the water that comes from the flooding. Why increase the density now before we know whether the infrastructure and drainage systems necessary to support that increased density will actually work? We do not have the infrastructure to support this. We need to understand our water and infrastructure and the length of time needed to plan for it before adding more density. I am here to protect the integrity of the master plan. The master plan provides predictability, reflects community values, and guides growth. If the county changes the master plan every time a developer comes in and says that they want to change it, What the heck is our master plan for? I mean, we wrote it, we spent hours and hours, and now you guys just, I don't understand why you keep changing these things. What has changed since the adoption of the master plan that justifies changing the property from rural density residential to low density? Do we get new jobs, infrastructure, more schools? Do we discover another aquifer? If none of these things have changed, oh.

Thank you. Sam, you got anybody for us, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Yes, Amy Nelson, N-E-L-S-O-N. This is the one that I was listening to at the planning and zoning meeting, there is many reasons not to accept it. Tim Sutton spoke up for the owner who was not available to speak to anyone else except for him on the phone. There were a lot of questions that went unanswered. And part of this is a release of distance of the leeway. It was 1,000 feet. Now it's, if this one is correct, it's 300 feet. And the height of buildings was removed. It's in there somewhere if it's the same word. So this will open the door for a lot of things other than homes. If we protest too much, they'll put some more of their solar farms right there. They can use as much water. They've resorted to saying that that's the equivalent of so many homes anyway. So I'm not convinced that they won't use it. If they can't use it for data centers, then they'll use it for solar farms. So I'm not in favor of this at all. Thank you. CHRIS JERRAMSEN.

Thank you. Come on down, sir. And we're on item seven.

Steven Pittman, PIT MAN. I live on Winery Road, and the current heavy truck traffic continues to destroy the sides of the road. If one of these trucks is coming towards you, you both must put your right side tires off the road to pass safely. I have an eight inch by eight inch ditch at the end of my driveway I must refill every time it rains. The addition of two to 400 cars daily, guessing on everybody is going to work, plus service and delivery vehicles will further erode the road, even if some of the vehicles exit the development onto Cortina Street. If you thought traffic at 160 and Homestead was bad, just wait until you see how bad the traffic at 160 and Winery becomes, should this development be permitted. You all have this. I live there, right in the middle of it. Is there a need for 198 tightly packed .2-acre houses in this area? There are over 200 empty half-acre lots in the winery area between Winery Road and Zuni Avenue. I counted this morning. Finally, the addition of multi-story houses in this development will restrict my view of the Mount Charleston range. I urge you to deny this.

Thank you.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

My name is Matt Sadler, S-A-D-L-E-R. There's going to have to come a point in time where we have to kind of put our foot down and stop measures like this. If the plan calls for larger lots that are pushing half acre, 0.4 acre, and you're trying to chop them down into 0.2, a little over 0.2, That's going against the character of the surrounding neighborhood, the expectations of the neighbors when they purchase their homes in light of what's happening in the master plan. And I just think it's wrong, and I think it's setting a bad precedent. And unfettered growth for the sake of unfettered growth is not going to be a benefit for our community, and that's just my two cents. Thanks a lot.

Thank you. Come on down in Pahrump, please.

Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON. There seems to be a pattern here where residents are not notified prior to projects beginning in areas. This is not the first one. So if that's trying to be skimmed by without notifying the residents, and I'm sorry, but Mr. Sutton here has a pattern of being dishonest with the community. So with that alone, that should say a lot. Now, besides that, I don't understand why it's things like this that are not necessary, that it's no way gonna benefit anybody in the community. Unlike the other issue that we had on the agenda, there was a benefit to the community. Nobody's looking at how it's affecting the other residents on anything, it seems like. And I think that certain things need to be reviewed. I think maybe the commissioners need to go out there and view the area. before making decisions on anything. And as far as I can see, the Planning Commission nor this board ever goes out to these properties or to these proposed sites to view the area to get an idea of what's going on. So how you guys can make a decision on anything based off of that is beyond me. And as far as I'm concerned, no, this should be denied. Thank you.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Patricia Robb, R-O-B-B.

Sorry, I've been sick. Yeah, I agree with everyone else. And not only that, I'm kind of tired of seeing all these developers come in here and try and take over our town when it's supposed to be a rural, unincorporated town. I don't know whatever happened to the Code of the West, but it seems to have been forgotten. And I think that everybody would like to have more of the Code of the West. Not only that, I feel as though giving priority to other people for these big developments is basically overseeing all of the utility challenge lots and their rights. They deserve to not be ignored. Thank you.

Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Good afternoon. Richard Hunter, H-U-N-T-E-R. I also live on Winery Road. I've been there less than five years. And we've had three different occasions where Public Works had to come out and clean the road. Recently, we had a little pond going at Winery down by the mobile station. With all the heavy trucks, we ended up with a broken water main. So I'm not against people developing things. But until we have the proper drainage, you know, it's just not going to work. And flood control is something that's getting out of hand in this community because, I mean, look, if we cover up 80 acres, where's that water going to go? It's not fair to the people when you're sending all that water and debris into their property. I'm against it unless there's some good, you know, maybe we need to look at some different ways to do it. to qualify these people for building there. And flood control has got to be one of them. Thank you. Thank you, sir.

Come on down, sir.

Hey, my name's Mike McKenzie, M-A-C-K-E-N-Z-I-E, Splash Ball, B-H-L. I have 42 years experience in water quality management, water quality distribution management, member of American Society of Civil Engineers since 1994, and water facilities construction. Commissioners, I'm against this zoning change. Simple reason, smaller lots do not create more water. More road money, more share, more fire capacity. They only create more houses on the same land. ASIN 162, as we already know, is over-pumped, over-allocated. You just voted 5-0 for a water ban because the aquifer is not sufficient to take that giant demand. Housing density is the same math on a smaller scale. A half-acre lot is one household. Cut that... down to 10,000, 20,000 square feet, then now you're talking four more toilets, more sinks, more landscape, more people washing their cars. We can't handle that. And rezoning does not add one acre foot of water to this aquifer. It's going to take away. Roads, services, work area, they all work the same way. More houses means more road trips that are already failing. Take a look at Haven Ranch Road. You have that development going there. That road is crap. Sorry for my language. So again, I'm just against it. Please be careful what you do. We only have one occupant. Don't add more people to it.

Thank you, sir. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

No, Chair.

Come on down, Linda.

Linda Clark, CLARK. I heard the last meeting we went to when they talked about this project. Sounds nice in a nice neighborhood, but I listened to the people that live there that talked about the flooding, the bad streets in a flood zone, and how many problems they were having with the water. And I'm thinking, why are we doing this to people? It doesn't make any sense. It's lunacy if you ask me. All these building of these new homes, they're lovely. Sure they are. Cost a lot of money. We have a lot of them sitting vacant because they can't sell them. We have a lot of houses in the development around the whole town that aren't selling. And I understand that our property values, based on a figure I heard this morning or yesterday, have gone down at least 2%. They're probably more than that. So if we're gonna keep building homes, what's the purpose if there's not gonna be anybody that wants them? Yeah, eventually you might sell them, but we've got a lot of problems here we need to solve before we get to that point. And we can't keep building homes and keep using water we don't have for who? Developers? Nothing against Mr. Sudden and his fed. I don't care who it is. There is too much of this going on in our community that needs to stop. We've got to take a stop and start looking at where are we going. I understand even the fairgrounds is on a flood zone. Do you think the BLM wanted to keep it? No, give it to the city, the town. They didn't want it. Okay, so where do we go from here? We need to put a big stop, a big plug in the hole and start looking at where we're going in this town and why are we overbuilding with stuff that we don't need. You think all these people are going to come here and fill these homes?

There's no jobs. Oh, I know. We're going to have the solar jobs and we're going to have all the...

The DC jobs, that's a bunch of bull crap and we know it. So where are the people gonna work? Yeah, we're gonna have a lot of kids. I heard we had 22,000 kids here. Do you believe that?

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

No, Chair.

Come on down, sir.

Michael Bergen, last name is B-U-R-G-A-N. I oppose this change for three reasons. First, I think the master plan is already proposed identified enough acreage for high density subdivisions. We don't need to add any more. Second, I believe the plan submitted violates NCC 16.28.155 that says you can't have lots less than 20,000 square feet unless you have a PUD or an approved development agreement and either exist. Third, this lot is for sale. The owner from Vegas bought it for a million. He's selling it for $7.5 million. It hasn't been improved. He has no intention to build on it. This zone change has only one goal, to increase his profit. So, commissioners, do you want to side with your constituents in Pahrump who are against this, or do you want to take the side of a land speculator from Clark County? Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please?

No, Chair. Come on down, Anthony.

Anthony Greco, GRECO. I'm against this. I don't think until after July of 27 and we get our water study, we should do anything more than one or two homes at a time. People who have property for years that want to retire here, that's fine. Any of these developments, we don't need it. And everything we don't want, Tim Sutton is representing them people. Okay? This seems to be a problem to me. I don't know if he's a bad guy or not, but in my opinion, I'm going to need two showers just because I'm standing next to him.

We can be polite. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

No, Chair.

Come on down, Deborah.

Deborah Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S. This is a, this is not a good thing, especially after what I just heard the previous gentleman say. But I know that developers buy, make improvements, make changes to zoning or whatever, and then they sell it for a major profit. I don't think we should be doing that in Nye County. It needs to be the developer is going to build on it. It needs to be the developer is going to pay for the extra infrastructure to prevent the flooding. And if they decide that they want to have a community water system, They need to pay for that too. I feel very strongly about that coming from a family of builders and developers.

Come on down, sir.

Commissioners, Reggie Federal, F-E-D-R-O. You know, my family, we love Trump. and the housing, having 198 homes. We live up in that direction on a winery. On small parcels, it's gonna look like a mini Las Vegas. To me it will anyway. And I think we need to rethink this out before we agreed to this. There's gonna be a lot of construction vehicles and we go up Winery Road and it's not getting any better because of the trucks going up and down it, the road issues, surface damage. And here again, I'm thinking about the aquifer, the water situation. I know you mentioned that, Ron. It just bewilders me. I think we need to do more research, less homes, and maybe one or two at the most. I really think strategically on this. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Come on down, Susie.

Susie Hertz, H-E-R-T-Z. Mr. Brigham was right on spot. And I think some of this information needs to come out here because of the people who are sitting in this audience who didn't read the backup and don't know the history. I attended the RPC meeting where this was voted upon, and there were dozens of people speaking against this project for a variety of very logical reasons. I also read the backup for this item today And there are dozens and dozens of no responses from the residents within the immediate area of this project. So there are lots of nos, even though the RPC passed it. They only passed it four to two, so it was not a conclusive, super enthusiastic response. And I think a lot of that is because of the push that comes from the planning department. And once again, I'm going to say that I think that there's too much that happens in the planning department that then gets foisted upon the RPC and then you, and you have little to say about it, or you do say little about it. 198 homes on quarter acre lots or less is going to be every housing development that you see in Las Vegas when you drive in on Blue Diamond. Little box houses, three stories tall, inches apart from each other. That is not Pahrump. We don't have the infrastructure for it. The application does not include their doing anything about the schools, fire, and police. And neither has anybody in the county spoken to that. We don't have infrastructure for that. for 198 homes equaling at least 400 new residents, likely 600 or 800 residents, or 1,000 residents, and the cars to go with it. Thanks. No, please.

Anybody on the phone, please.

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Hi, my name is Dawn Murphy, M-U-R-P-H-Y, and I have a two-fold problem up here. I live up in the vineyards right next to the planned subdivision or whatever it's going to be. And I don't want that in my neighborhood. That's too many houses. 189 houses or 98 houses is too many. We already have too many subdivisions going in with these small little lots. I really don't want this to continue to go on. Also, you do realize that one of the roads that goes up against is called industrial road. We have gravel pits over there and I own gravel pits over there. I own a gravel pit over there. I don't own a, I own yards over there. So when they get this in, are they going to start giving me a problem? Because now, you know, they move next to my business. They, I didn't move next to theirs. You know, those businesses have been up there for years. So I am thoroughly opposed for, all of the reasons everybody else has stated, including my own. Thank you so much. Have a nice day.

Thank you, Dawn. Come on up, Tammy.

Tammy Pittman, P-I-T-M-A-N. So, yes, I live in the winery, and the winery is currently zoned for two homes per acre. There are some homes in the vineyard that receive permission for a quarter-acre lots, but predominantly it's all half-acre lots. Pahrump has high density developments in the south end of town, and if we have to have them, which I'm not a fan of, they need to stay there. People move to Pahrump to own a house that is not cheek by jowl with their neighbors, and they move here to Pahrump to have a home. They also want 360 degree stunning views that we have. The Las Vegas style, hand your neighbor a cup of sugar out the window, needs to stay in Vegas. planned for they're planning for down to a 16th of an acre lots with zero lot lines i already know anyone whose property is on the lower winery or on parsons road will no longer enjoy our stunning sunsets or and will lose their privacy as people are peering over their back fence into their backyards these are front yards depending if you're um The property values are also going to plummet. It's common knowledge that our basin is already severely over-allocated, and the proposed density would put eight times the water usage than currently allocated. That's unconscionable. We already... I know I only have two minutes. The owner of this property does not live here and does not experience the effects of this urban blight in the midst of our town. The motivations for anyone championing this project should be examined closely. Please vote no.

Perfect timing. Thank you. Come on down, Dwight. Oh, I'm okay. Up, up. There you go.

White Lily, L-I-L-L-Y. I was at the planning board meeting when this room was packed with people from the winery objecting to this development, and I guess I'm just not understanding. My wife and I moved here, this is going on 24 years, to a rural town, and it was laid out with master plans, and the master plans have been redone, and now we seem to be tearing the master plan up one step development at a time, bringing in high-density housing into a rural town, which is, by its very nature, would be larger loss. Now, this is affecting the people up in the winery district, but it's also affecting people driving on Homestead that will see another 400 or 500 cars a day coming on to Homestead. 160 in an intersection that's already screwed up from the gas station that was built there on the corner. So there's that issue, they've got the flooding issue. The county and the town doesn't have the resource to service the population it has now, yet it's anticipating adding thousands of more people. Commissioners, this doesn't make any sense, this development. I'm not going to speak on another one that's on the agenda, but why are we continually having people come to the Planning Commission coming to the planners and getting approval for density housing, high density housing, when we're a rural town with limited resources. We have 12,000 acre feet of confirmed water from the last study with another 3,000 acre feet deeper into the ground that we haven't even explored yet, and yet we keep piling people into this. I still don't understand it. I want you to turn this down I wish you'd turn a leaf here and go by the master plan we have right now. Thank you.

Thank you. Come on down and please.

Hi commissioners, Mary Greenspan, Blackwell, BLA CKW ILL. I'm just here to speak from my heart today. Everyone's giving you such great legal advice and, this and that, but I moved here 30 years ago. I was in real estate. When I first started selling out here 30 years ago, people were coming to me, they wanted an acre lot. They wanted horse property. And that's the way it was for many years. And then people were happy when the half acre homes came in, because an acre is too big for some people. And then we were so thrilled when Mountain Falls started developing. It gave the people that wanted that type of living area a place to live, and everybody was happy. And all the 30 years that I was working here sold hundreds and hundreds of properties and homes. I never once had anybody come and say, oh, I'd like to live in a little box that's right next door where if I sneeze, somebody's going to hear me. That's not why any of us moved here to Pahrump. We love this place the way it is. And I understand development. I understand progress. I'm not against it. But please, you guys are the stewards of this valley. Would you just please think twice before you, you know, make this a place that I got to go down to Vegas and look at those ugly homes as I'm going down Blue Diamond. I don't want to look out my window and see that. And I don't think you do either. Thank you. Please vote no. CHRIS JERRAMSEN.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

No, Chair.

CHRIS JERRAMSEN. We're going to close public comment. All right, commissioners, questions for the folks? Any folks?

CHRIS JERRAMSEN. There is. CHRIS JERRAMSEN. Mr. Chairman and Mayor. CHRIS JERRAMSEN. Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

Miguel, if you'd like, it's up to you. Mr. Chairman, do you want me to speak? Yeah, go ahead, sir. Thank you. This is my district, so I obviously know more about this than some of the developments going on or proposed. One thing I want to point out is a strange thing that happens here with property discussions, and I want everyone to be aware of this. I've heard the same people talking about property rights and saying, well, do whatever we want with your land. It's your land. I want to see you do whatever you want with your land. And then they speak on something like this and they say, well, no, you can't, you can't do this. Right. And I'm just warning that if we run around telling people, do whatever we want with your property, this would catch up, not just to these people, but to us as a government, if we take a position of this, um, No water for developments like this, but yes, water if you want to put 300 tiny homes in a one acre lot is inconsistent at best. It does raise concerns about equal protection. And I just want people to think about that. Some people who I'm not admonishing anyone, I'm just saying be aware of that because it's an inconsistent position and it could be legally potentially dangerous if we as a County hold that position. It's okay for you to speak on it, but it's just something that I want to point out. My objection here is pretty simple. I do not like the density being proposed here, the addition of homes here right now, which are two separate issues. And there are three things that I wanted to discuss about this. One is traffic. I don't, I know Commissioner Jabbour is from Massachusetts. I know people from Chicago out there and Route 9 in Massachusetts, I watched as well as they built up and Natick built up in those towns. Route 9 was kind of just a road almost, actually almost exactly like 160. And it just got worse and worse and worse. And I have memories 25 years ago, sitting in traffic and you go, you know, half a mile in 20 minutes, uh, Chicago, the same thing for my Chicago people were 34. For those of you in those Western suburbs, I lived there for a short period. And you see, this is just a natural occurrence when you start dumping housing in places that may not necessarily be for that kind of housing, but exceptions are made or plans were bad. My concern, it's not even about my district here. It's about the traffic on that corner. That corner on Homestead 160 could potentially be very, very bad, especially if people are going to Parsons. And I know that there's another access that they want through that little area. I'm sure the people in Court Avenue will love that. But if you're gonna go up to Parsons to access this, it's going to just dump all of this traffic in that area. It will back up on the street, probably in both directions. And then we have that disaster across the street. with the people all turning around illegally because they want to be able to go from the gas station, the pot store, or wherever they're going. Lieutenant Klenczar promised me he wouldn't retire until they fixed that light. He retired anyway. He's still mad about the light, I'm sure, out there somewhere. The light we have been able to fix for a couple years now. It's just if we can't fix a light, I just don't know if we can be trusted as a government to do this. I think we would really let our people down. So that's the traffic part of it. The infrastructure part of it are the eroding roads. We all passed a million dollars for road repair, and you never guess it because money wasn't spent. The plan, as we found out, was to give the money back. I use that story, and I get a laugh every single time from somebody who I'm meeting with. But that's the reality here. That's the reality here in Knight County. The infrastructure is not catch up with this kind of densely packed development or any development right now in that area. It's not conducive to that. The roads infrastructure, I guess they go, they go, you know, hand in hand. My objection isn't why I'm not a water engineer. I'm not a scientist. I did terrible in school and science. I'm not going to pretend to know anything about water. and that's out of our jurisdiction, as the DA will tell you is that you have a water zone by the state, so we can object on those grounds, and it's fine, but my objection is just it makes no sense to put this here, and the density of it makes no sense. It will affect every single traveler who goes down there, not just people in my neighborhood or people in my district, and that is why I oppose this. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you. Mr. Chair, I'd like to speak after Commissioner Strickland, please. Sure. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you, Chair. I was just going to ask about the flooding. I see that there's been some measures within this subdivision to address flooding and was wondering what you foresee here. It's hard to see when you look at it online and if the people had even seen that particular measures because Winder Road's been a challenge for a long time. And I just think it's nice for once someone's coming forward with some ideas for flooding. I'm not saying I support the project. I would just like to hear about that, please.

Thank you, Commissioner Strickland. I didn't know if we would have an opportunity to speak. I'm glad we did, and I would like to address that concern along with several others. Tim Sutton, S-U-T-T-O-N, with Sutton Law and Consulting Group, here on behalf of the property owner, Scott Sheldon. So as Kiana mentioned, this is a 198-home subdivision plan on 80 acres. And I guess I'm a little perplexed on all of the comments regarding density The neighboring winery subdivision contains 100 homes on 40 acres. We're proposing 200 homes on 200 acres. If we wanted to develop under the existing zoning right now, we could build 163 of those homes without any approvals at all, other than a development agreement. A development agreement was mentioned previously. If you notice in your backup, I believe it was Mr. Hunter who Yeah, Mr. Hunter, I think, who mentioned the need for a development agreement. That's absolutely true. We do need a development agreement. That's a condition of approval should the board choose to approve this subdivision. You asked about the flood control. As has been mentioned by several people, flooding is a significant concern in this area, which is why the developer chose to put significant flooding prevention in the form of retention bases retention basins slash open space property there. So under Nye County code, the current requirement for this level of subdivision would be 1.14 acres of open space. The developer is putting in 20 acres. That's 25% of the acreage. That's unprecedented. So there's quite a significant bit of real estate being committed to address flooding concerns that have been raised. Um, as far as the other console traffic, as far as the traffic concerns that have been then raised, yes, of course, if you have more people there, that's going to create some traffic concerns. Um, however, baked into our development and approval process is public works review, which addresses all those things. There's impact fees that need to be paid, uh, in order to address those, uh, whether it's widening the road, uh, creating more ingress and egress, uh, uh, adding more layers of compaction onto the roads. I mean, that's all baked into our process. along with the impact fees for roads that would be required to be paid upon approval of a development agreement. One of the things I wanted to note that came over from the RPC was that there were concerns raised about only having one single-story rather than multi-story housing homes being built. That was something that the developer conceded to at the RPC level and was made contingent on approval. Just wanted to bring that forward. Other than that, commissioners, people are making it sound like we're building mountain falls right next to the winery. That's not the case. We're building the winery right next to the winery. If you look at the map there, if you click on any of the lots to the right, I think there's a couple along the road that are half-acre lots. But other than that, they're smaller than the lots that are being proposed now. They're VR8 lots. The lot size is 8,500 square feet on average for those lots. We're proposing 10,000 square foot lots on minimum. So the representations that you've heard that this is increasing density in terms of the area, at least not to the east where the winery subdivision exists, it's simply not true. So if there aren't any other questions, I'll sit down.

If I may continue, Chair. Sure. So you're doing a comparative to the vineyards. The vineyards itself is the one that has the smaller lots. And I believe you just stated, Mr. Sutton, that you have the ability with the current zoning to do 163 homes and this would be 198 homes. Did I get that right? That's correct. Okay, so that being correct, you're adding 35 homes but putting in flood control that you wouldn't have to do if you just built the homes because you don't need, and the development agreement could also talk about traffic. So I don't know much, but I do know that having the flood control would be exquisite. I'm very concerned about that area. We all have been for a long time. That's the only thing, I don't know, Commissioner, this is your district, Mr. Bain, and that being your district, have you considered the differentiation between the current approved homes who could go in versus this subdivision and not having any flood control.

In law, we have this thing called leading the witness. It popped into my head. DA, you like that? I unfortunately cannot object under these circumstances, but anyone who's an attorney or non-attorney, look that up. Thank me later. I've considered everything. I mean, the reality is if you compare it to Something that's more dense. It's not dense, but the request is to change the zoning to allow more homes than are there now. That is just, that's a fact. I mean, we can debate it if you want, but the debate has ended with that statement for me.

Perfect.

I have considered all of it, but as far as the traffic, it does not change things with the traffic. It's going to increase traffic. It's going to increase strain. And again, I would say that if anyone in the state of Nevada can fix that light that we've been asking to fix for two years now, and maybe then we can bring this back up for a vote, because if we can't even get a second added onto that light and no one can figure it out, and I've talked to all seven NDOT people that apparently are six NDOT people that handle this place, then I can't even think about adding this. And if we can't figure out how to spend a million dollars on road repair that sits there and rots somewhere, and the plan is to give it back I don't know how we can possibly do something like this here. It just makes no sense. Maybe if I can get an answer to those, I'd be amenable to looking into this further, but as of now, still a no. Thank you.

I appreciate that. Thank you, Chair. I just love having the conversation and seeing what the other commissioners feel and what they see. This is a rewarding job because of that. Thank you, sir.

Thank you. Now we're going to hear from Commissioner Jabbour.

Thank you, Chair. Thank you, commissioners. I thought at one point, Mr. Sutton jumped up and cut us all off, but appreciate the clarification. And I'd like to give some clarification as well. Commissioner Bain is correct. Originally from born and raised, educated in Massachusetts. Route 9, as in Route 128, which no longer exists. Now it's 95. Those were old. Those were old horse and cattle routes. A different Route 9. That actually is a different Route 9.

Route 9 goes west now.

It goes west. Yes, Route 9 goes west to the western part and leads into New York. So anyway, to clarify something else is that what I've said time and time again is when people have their own land and they comply with what they're wanting to do, who are we? We are not the land czars to tell them no. So we have to be able to compare apples to apples. And this is an apple to an orange at this point of what's written in here in the backup and on the agenda, because they're asking us to change. They're asking us to change something that they're already zoned for. And yes, they're able to move forward uh, with 163 homes. Uh, if this is rejected, I, I get it, but, uh, we do have to keep things into perspective. Uh, Mr. Sutton mentioned, uh, ingress, egress layers and, and helping to, to correct any, any of, uh, what is that? That's winery road going back and forth. So is there a plan? Because I didn't see it. You can help me here. Is there a plan for additional ingress-egress to this development besides Winery Road? First question. When do you plan on commencing if this is approved?

Thank you, Commissioner Jabbour. Yes, that would be addressed during the final map stage by Public Works. They'd come in, I believe a traffic study has already been conducted on this parcel, and so I think they found that Winery Road plus a road, and I apologize, Parsons Road would be the one that would address the ingress and egress of the subdivision.

Where does Parsons Road exit onto?

industrial commissioner.

Ah, so, so it will go through. And, and as one of the commenters spoke and said that they have, it's not just one, but there's a, there's a few pits that are up there. So Parsons road there. So this will be a well-traveled area for not only commercial, but also residential traffic. If this was improved approved. Yes.

Yes. Commissioner.

Okay, and then the other question, please, Mr. Sutton, is if this was to be approved, when do you plan on building?

I believe there was a requirement to get the development agreement passed within a year. I believe Mr. Sheldon's on the phone. I don't know exactly when the proposed phasing is supposed to happen.

Okay, so the plan is to actually build and not to flip this property.

I don't know if Mr. Sheldon's planning to flip the property or not, but that's not uncommon in the development world to have somebody get the entitlements for a particular piece of property and then develop it.

I understand, Mr. Sutton. I appreciate your candidness. I suppose I'm going to be considered I'm leading the witness.

You do that under hostile. You just can't do it for friendly. That's how the rule.

Oh, I'm not being hostile at all. I'm not being, we're all friends here. Yeah, we're trying to make things happen. So, you know, something that I read in the backup that really concerns me is 21 acres of this project, if it was to move forward, 21 acres is proposed to be retention basins and park areas. Is that right? That's correct. Yes. So retention basin. I mean, I, the visual that I got, and by the way, I do visit the different properties, things that to the best of my ability when I'm back and forth and all over the County. Um, but the visual that came to mind is the horrific and tragic events that, that occurred on, uh, and at death Valley, when we had all of these people in death Valley and all of a sudden, the torrential rains and the floods came down and they're still missing. And my condolences to their families and friends. We're proposing to have a retention basin up on top of the, in the middle of the fan with a park area for people to go and enjoy. And then, and then at the snap, at the snap of a whip, there could be torrential rains. Is this a possibility of a potential catastrophic area being created?

I guess I'm not understanding the question. Commissioner, I guess I'm not understanding. Are you concerned that the retention basin would somehow create a hazard? Correct. Correct.

I mean, if the retention basin is going to capture any water that's coming down off the fan into that area, why would we put a park there and place people in danger, potentially in danger?

Commissioner Jabbour, we've got Bernard, the engineer here, who would like to address your concern.

Thank you.

My name is Bernardo Zanin, Z-A-N-I-N. and I am a civil engineer design. We have been working for a long time with a drainage study on this one. And the detention basin is gonna contain the water and let it flow slowly so it doesn't go the way it's doing already on the winery. So we are gonna keep and let it flow in a slow pattern. And The detention basin is not, it's gonna be about five feet deep by the volume that we calculated, and with one to three slopes on the sides, so it's not, it won't be any hazard for the people over there. And there will be, of course, signalling about the flood area, so it is addressed on the civil side.

Thank you, Mr. Bernardo. I respectfully disagree. I am not an engineer, but I disagree with living in, in Pahrump and in the Pahrump Valley and in my County for many, many years and seeing what torrential rains can do and what it does do within seconds within seconds. But, but I appreciate, but I appreciate you clarifying. Obviously, you've addressed it because it's a concern.

Yes, we are running a real big drainage study. There is the property to the north of us that we are currently using as a reference as well, and a few other on Homestead. So we do have analyzed a lot of flows from the Wheeler Wash. And we are addressing the best as possible.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Commissioner Bain would like me to actually make a clarification for you on something you asked. It's on your time, just for a reason. You had asked about the access. And I understand the access is on Parsons. And I understand people don't memorize everyone else's neighborhood. I get it. That's why we have different districts we represent. But the idea that someone's going to be accessing on Parsons and go around in a big circle to go anywhere and then go to 160 is pretty ridiculous. They're going to obviously go right down to winery and go barreling down winery. So I just want to make that point is that everyone's saying no one's going to go down industrial. Trust me, no one's going to go down industrial. No one's going to go all the way around two miles around and then go back and On the other side, they're going to go right down Parsons. And I know it's intended to do, and they may even put a little bump out to suggest that they go not the shortest distance, but we all know if you want to drive down on your break and sit there for five minutes in the corner of Homestead and 160 and tell me how many people you see taking U-turns around that ridiculous thing that they put in the middle of the road. you have your answer. So we cannot tell people what to do, especially in Pahrump. They're going to do the opposite if they want to. So we cannot direct them not to go right down, barreling down the line. And that is my concern. Thank you, sir.

Thank you, Commissioner Bain. No, I certainly appreciate that because, and I know exactly, exactly where you're talking about. I understand the proposed, ingress-egress, the additional proposed ingress-egress, which is wonderful because it does have to do with safety. And you're absolutely right. Why would somebody drive all the way around unless they see the traffic lined up, backed up, whether they're going to work, they're going to school, they're going on a pleasure trip for the day. But I'm going to turn it back over to you, Chair. I think I'm satisfied with The questions, answers, public comments, et cetera. CHRIS RODGERS.

Thank you, Commissioner.

Commissioner Koenig, you got anything? COMMISSIONER KOENIGS. I don't really have anything to add except that I think, Mr. Sutton, you said you're going to put 200 homes on 200 acres. That's not on 200 acres. It's 98 acres. CHRIS RODGERS.

Actually, 80 acres. I apologize.

So what I meant to say was I just find it embarrassing. Yeah.

Thank you. It was a winery has 100 homes on 40 acres. This is 200 homes on 80 acres.

Right. Thank you for that clarification. So it's still smaller. Okay. That's all I had.

Smaller than the current vineyard lots? Because I think they're... It's still... Well, you're putting 198...

homes on 80 acres around that's 78.9 rounded up to 80. so it's still less than half an acre right mr circling you got anything for us waiting on a motion anybody gonna make a motion

Is anybody gonna make a motion on this Ian it's our Commissioner Bain It's your district whether it's an approval on page six of six in your backup if you want to read it No, thank you All right this This item does not ask for lack of emotion Which means it can come back Okay. Thank you, commissioners. Thank you, guys. Eight, please. See if we can speed it up.

Item 8, 10 a.m. timed item for possible action, public hearing discussion and deliberation on WV-26-28, a waiver of NCC 16.20.160 for building setback requirements at the property located at 108 and 126 South Prospect, Tonopah, Nevada. Assessor's parcel number 008-142-01 in zero zero eight dash one four two dash zero two bradley de boer trust property owner kevin asked you applicant agent okay thank you for that all right guys please be quiet so we can hear uh... kiana thank you yana medici q i a n a m e d i c i a principal planner night county planning the applicant is requesting a waiver from

High County Code 162160C, as existing structures are already located within the setback area identified by the code, and requiring strict compliance with the current setback standards would create an unnecessary hardship while providing little or no additional public benefit. The property owner has submitted a land division map, LD2615. Purpose of this parcel map is to move the existing property line between the two parcels to create a more practical lot layout and improve the future resale value of the properties. No new parcels are being created as part of this request. The adjustment only changes the location of the common boundary between the existing parcels. The revised boundary will result in parcels that are more functional, easier to market, and better suited for future ownership and use.

Thank you for that. All right, let's start with public comment. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

No, Chair.

Come on down, Beth.

best for savage p l r y s c w i c h uh... i did not personally go there but i did do google maps uh... and i also did google earth there is a mobile home there there is a utility shed there's a demolished home and uh... some other buildings there that can be easily moved i'm not sure that uh... we need to Give them a setback. I'm not sure this should pass. The whole area is kind of... Oh, I don't even know how to put it. It's just everything seems to be demolished except for the mobile home and the shed. So I'm not sure why they're asking for a setback. They need to clean up the land first before they can determine what they're going to do. They just want to sell the property it looks like. I understand that. However, it should be cleaned up before any determination is made about this. Thank you.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone please?

No chair.

I'm going to close public comment commissioners. Lots of questions.

I have no questions. A chair. I too know the street and the property of the last commenter is correct. The whole street looks different, especially from Google earth. from above versus on the street, but at the same time, this is a formality, and I will motion to approve.

Second. We have a motion, a second. I'm going to call for the vote.

Aye.

Aye.

Zipporah's aye.

Aye. Boscovich, aye. That carries 5-0. Thank you. Let's see if we can do a few more real quick. Let's do consent 11, please. Do you have to read them? No.

Item 11, consent agenda items. These are items that staff recommend for approval. The board reserves the right to move any consent agenda item to the regular segment of the agenda should issues arise that need to be addressed Discussion of any item from the consent agenda items that needs review before a decision is made. This will be item 11.1, 11.2, 11.3B only. 11.4, A, B, and C. 11.5, A, B, and C. 11.6, A, B, and C. 11.7, A, B, and C. 11.8, A, B, and C.

11.9 a and b and 11.10 a b c okay thank you for that so i'm going to open up public comment right now on any one of those items sam do we have anybody on the phone please yes chair the caller is unmuted please speak and spell your name for the record oh yes amy nelson n-e-l-s-o-n um i saw grid alliance on here

and I enlarged it, now I lost it. I'm not quite sure why Greer Alliance is asking for anything.

That was actually pulled. Oh, I'm sorry, just B. Go ahead.

Oh, anyway, if it's got to do with solar farms out there, I don't think anybody's in favor of them getting approved for any changes or any amount of money if they're on this i can't find it but uh i'll wait and listen and see what happens with this thank you thank you come on down uh mr pitman stephen pitman p-i-t-m-a-n 11-6 can i go there yep 11-6 is a uh

Office of Traffic Safety, Nye County Sheriff's Officer Impairment Enforcement Grant Award for $30,000. There's an in-kind match of $7,500. Where are we going to find that money? And 11.7, same thing for traffic safety joining forces grant award. And we have to come up with a match of 11.5 and 11.8, an in-kind match of $11,250. In the positive side, 11.10, the chief wants to put up two Two large towers with sirens on them to warn of disaster. And that's a good thing. But the rest with these in-kind matches, that's a lot of money. Where do we get that? Thank you, sir.

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Well, Commissioners, Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A. And I just want to let it be known for the record, the reason why we're not using the clock is because nobody knows how to reprogram it in two minutes. Thank you.

Absolutely not true. Come on down, Ms. Jackson.

Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON. So it seems like there's a lot of issues jam-packed into one here, which is kind of, you know, unclear on a lot of issues here. One is with the Grid Alliance. I have a friend that lives over off of Factory Road, and Grid Alliance, without notifying her, nobody notified her prior to this in August of last year, they are over there and when they spray the ground, all right, to keep the dust from going, I have pictures where the whole side of her house and her yard and everything gets wet. They are out there at three, four in the morning with floodlights. in her window and diesel trucks running all night nobody ever warned her of this so given them things like this where it's it's it doesn't give enough information and like i said i don't understand why so many issues are packed into one because nothing is very clear and neither are the you know when they prepare the uh issue to go on the agenda there's nothing on there that's clear on anything either so That's kind of, you know, I don't understand why it's like that. We can't, it's too many issues on one for anybody to comment on, especially within two minutes. But for the Grid Alliance, go out there and see where she's at, where her house is, and where they just put down the slabs for the towers to go up. It's literally, like, from me to you. Hmm. And she's the only house that it's affecting because she's that far out. But nobody notified her. The environmental issues that's going on with this because where they have the barrier for the overflow of water, it's nothing. I mean, there's nothing standing there anymore. There's nothing being protected. The barrier from her retainer wall is literally this far. I have pictures and videos of it to show you. And this is why I mentioned earlier about it seems to be it. It seems to be a thing where the residents are being notified or to say something about it. Something needs to be done with this. So I say no on all of it.

Thank you.

Come on down, Linda.

Linda Clark, CLARK. I just want clarification. Ron, did you say number 11 you were going to hold aside for something?

No, it was 11.3A. We took it off.

3.A? Yeah, that's the one I have a question about.

Yeah, that one's been pulled. Linda, it'll come back on another agenda.

I hope so.

There was a typo in there.

It doesn't seem fair. Thank you.

Thank you.

Come on down, Deborah.

Deborah Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S. Grid Alliance has been... Has lost lawsuits in at least three states and multiple countries. I would not want them to... do anything here because most of it was over contamination. Thank you.

Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

No, Chair.

We're going to close public and listen to Chair.

Can I clear something up real quick? The grid lines item that you guys are voting on is a road remediation agreement. for the SUP that you guys approved quite some time ago for the upgrade to their transmission line. We're not approving a project, you're approving an agreement so we can get our roads fixed if they damage them.

Mr. Chairman, may I just address very briefly?

Go ahead, Commissioner.

I just want to clarify that it sounds like what he just said. This is just an agreement so that we would have some kind of recourse in the event that our roads are damaged, that's what I'm told. I know there's a lot of confusion here. I don't blame anyone on this particular one. I don't want to speak out of time, but I have driven up there and talked to these people up there doing the stuff they're doing and have asked them to do certain things and they've done certain things. It was approved before I got here and it's approved. It is what it is. But as far as this is concerned, all this would do is just give us the ability to have an agreement in case things get destroyed. So that's, I just want to be clear about that for everyone.

Thank you for the clarification. Go ahead, Sheriff. Good morning, Sheriff Joe McGill. I'm sorry. Good afternoon. I just wanted to respond to Mr. Pittman's comment or question. Each of the joining forces or traffic safety grants that in kind match for each of these items as being met by the fuel cost, wear and tear of the vehicle, the maintenance of the vehicle, so we're not actually having to put out any money to them. This is a wash. Thank you. Thank you, sir.

Okay.

Excuse me, Chair. Go ahead, Commissioner. Before the sheriff, Commissioner Jabbour, thank you. Sheriff.

Oh, Joe.

Before you walk away, Uh, that wasn't the only one that was, um, unclear. And if you could share, if I mean 11.6, 11.7, 11.8, uh, these are all being funded from a one zero three four zero grants as well as the, the fire chiefs item 11.1 zero funding from one zero three four zero grants. So could you help clarify that those as well, sheriff, uh, to satisfy, the questions from the public, please.

If I can, um, it, as I understand it is that the money is given to the county from the state and the invoices are billed from that. So does that answer your question?

And the end kind is met the same way. And the end kind is the same way that you mentioned for the other one.

So thank you, sheriff.

Thank you, commissioner.

And it's, is somebody speaking to you, sheriff?

No. Oh, you are.

No, I, I see you looking over to the left. Are you looking on screen?

Yeah.

Okay. Thank you.

Just anxiously awaiting your next question.

He doesn't have any more.

No, no, I'm satisfied, Chair. Thank you. I just wanted you to clarify. That's all. Thank you.

Chair, if they're satisfied, I'd like to make a motion to approve all consent items as written. Second.

Perfect. Motion and a second. I'm going to call for the vote.

Aye.

Support is aye. Aye. Boscovich, aye. That's 5-0. Thank you. 19, please. Yeah. Then we're going to probably launch.

Item 19 for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding proclamation number P2026-06 declaring September 2026 service dog month in Nye County. Thank you for that.

All right, who's presenting on this? I saw her earlier, I thought.

This is a public petitioner item. If the petitioner is on the phone, they'll need to press star nine to raise their hand to be unmuted. If they are unavailable, we can just proceed. It's pretty self-explanatory.

Okay, let's open up public comment on this guy and see if there's anybody that wants to speak. Nineteen. All right, closing public comment. Motion to approve is written.

Second.

For seconds. Motion, two seconds. All those in favor?

Aye. Aye. Aye.

Boscovich, aye. 5-0. Thank you very much. All right, so we're going to do 20, and then we're going to break for lunch. And Paul, what? No, what? No, after lunch. Do him after? Yeah. OK. No. Okay. That's okay. Let's hold on, sir. Yeah. No.

Yes.

All right. Let's break. Let's be back at 2.30. Oh, they'll be joining shortly. Paul, don't be mad at me, but I have to bump you. I know. I'm sorry. We're doing nine. We have to do nine.

Sure.

You just leave it right there. All right, commissioners up north are back. Lorena, are you with us?

I'm here.

Thank you. May I do nine, please? Or you do nine, please? Yes. May I have nine, please?

Item nine, 10 o'clock a.m. for possible action. Public hearing, discussion, and deliberation to A, declare 2461 South Mallard Avenue, Front Nevada, a public nuisance consisting of an unsafe, unhealthful condition, which poses a public health and safety hazard. B, if declared a public nuisance, establish a reasonable time for Annie L. Turner, who is the property owner to repair, abate or remove the public nuisance. C, if the public nuisance is not abated within the time period designated direct staff to utilize the abatement procedures to abate the hazard by removing or causing the removal of the hazardous conditions. D, establish a funding source to pay for the abatement. E, apply a special assessment against the real property and the amount of the total cost of the abatement Assessor's parcel number 042-493-04, location 2461 South Mallard Avenue, Perth, Nevada. Property owner, Annie L. Turner.

Hey, Brian, DA. Do we need to swear anyone in? Do we need a script? Do we need anything?

I gave you the scripts last time. I didn't make any new ones. That's what we need.

So shall we open another item?

Yeah, let's go to another item while we do it.

And we'll find the script, please. Can we get a script, please, from staff?

In fact, I'm going to turn this over to Bruce. Chairman Jabbour for the roads. Number 10, please. We'll continue nine.

Item 10. Item 10, for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding the general road report by the public works director on general road maintenance, gravel road maintenance, asphalt patching, weed mowing, and direction regarding public works projects.

Thank you, Lorena.

Is Beau or Tom?

Beau is with us, sir.

Beau, please proceed.

Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Bogot, G-O-T-T, Assistant Public Works Director. Okay, so Nye County Public Works has received 448 maintenance requests since the beginning of this year. So far, 287 of those have been completed. 57 were not relative, leaving 104 unresolved. Most requests continue to be for potholes. with the slight uprise in mowing requests over the past month. Patching crews continue to be out daily, and the mowers have been focusing on areas around the schools, clearing the ditches for the students that are walking to school. Last week, the travel crew completed just over five miles of scrub seal in Tonopah, which will complete all of the chip and scrub seals outside of the Pahrump area for the year. Over the next two weeks, the crew will finish up with the three and a half miles of chip roads left on the list for this year, bringing the total of roads completed in Pahrump at 23 miles, excuse me, and for just over 32 miles throughout the county. The crew will continue scrub sealing some major asphalt roads in Pahrump with some extensive work on sections of Blagg, Basin, Wilson, Game Bird, and west and honeysuckle streets throughout the month of September Recently outlying areas around tone upon Beatty have been hit with some flood activity Over the last month crews will be working on repairs and gravel road maintenance to bring the roads back up to normal status Just one more thing I want to go over regarding the addition of some latch funds that we received. We currently have spent $761,582.90. That's as of today. There may be a few invoices that haven't been processed yet, leaving us with $238,417.10 left. I'm open for any questions.

Thank you, Bo. Commissioners, do you have any questions for the Assistant Director before I open it up for public comment?

I have none, sir.

I have nothing. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Let me open this up for public comment, please. Anybody on the phone, please, Sam.

Yes, Chair, the caller.

Public comment, item number 10.

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

I was calling on nine.

Thank you. We will get back to nine in just a few minutes. We're on number 10 right now, Highways and Roads Commission. Anybody else on the phone, please, Sam?

We don't have anybody in chambers. Yes, Chair, the caller.

Thank you.

Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Yes, Amy Nelson, N-E-L-S-O-N. I'm glad you mentioned mowing where the students walk. It came up in a conversation on Facebook last week. On Barney, kids walk from all the way up close to Basin down to Barney and Prospector to catch the bus. And those side weeds are really high. They're really bad. So maybe they can check out over there where these kids walk so they're not walking in the street. Thank you.

Thank you, Amy, for that. That's very important. Anybody else on the phone, please?

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

I can hear you, Michael. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Anyhow, I just want to, for the record, make it be known when good attention goes up and beyond their pay wages and to cover up or help alleviate the strain from your negative markets. So let's show a little appreciation when we deal with this guy. Thank you.

Thank you. Anybody else on the phone, please, Sam? No, Chair. Thank you. I'll close public comment at this time. Any other questions for the Assistant Director Bogut?

Nothing for me, sir.

Nothing? No, I just want to thank you. Go ahead, Commissioner Koenig.

I was just going to say, nothing here. He looks too comfortable sitting there, so...

He's very comfortable, yeah. They're comfortable seats.

Chair?

Oh, I just want to thank you again. Go ahead, Commissioner Strickland.

We are slow with our getting back to you with that lag, aren't we, Chair? Thank you.

It is, I know, three-second lag.

You're so used to it. I just wanted to say thank you for moving forward with spending the million dollars and having a little over $238,000 left. I'm sure by next month that'll be all gone. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Commissioner Bain. Did you have anything? So, Bo, speaking of which, of course, We want you to utilize this money in the most efficient way possible. So there's the tangible, the visual for the people as they're driving over what they once knew as potholes, et cetera. As you say, the majority of calls come in and concerns are over potholes. So throughout the county, I'm sure that it is. I know that it's appreciative. And also I want to thank you and your team. You were up here during the scrub and chip seal program. for many of the streets here in Tonopah in the area. And thank you and the team again, because it's very, very noticeable, right? And it's delightful too, and a pleasure to finally drive on areas that, you know, people try to avoid and go to different side streets, right? So, you know what I'm talking and thank you for being hands-on and being up here during that, during that project time, you and your team.

All right. Thank you.

And, uh, next time, hopefully you'll have another, another, uh, presentation, a PowerPoint for us. I know that the public really enjoyed that because they were able to actually see the different areas of the County that, uh, that were being addressed by you and your team.

Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. I was really struggling to come up with some material over a month. I think I could probably make it work every, like, quarterly, come up with a presentation. You know, road work is pretty extensive, and, you know, what you get done in a month doesn't look really good on a presentation, and not many people are going to notice it. It's just very time-consuming. And also, with being out of town and Tonopah last week, it's made it a little difficult for me to put anything together, so...

I understand, and not to waste your time, Bo, we want it to be meaningful. It doesn't have to be redundant. We don't want it to be redundant. So just a verbal report in every quarter, I think that would be acceptable to do a PowerPoint, a video presentation, whatever you're gonna put together. Okay.

Okay, thank you for understanding. Thank you. I'll go back to my comfortable spot down there. Obviously, I don't like public speaking, so I'm much more comfortable standing in the seat.

Thank you guys. You're doing a good job. Thank you, Director. And I'll turn this back over to the VOCC Chair, Ron Boscovich.

Thank you. Thank you very much, Chair. And thank you, Bo, and your guys' team as well. All right. Let's see. What are we going to do now? Let's do.

Thank you. Look at what we could do.

Oh, hey. Nine again.

Do commissioners in Tonopah have the script for nine?

If you throw it, Commissioner Strickland, I'll try to catch it from the screen.

I told you I would appreciate your view today with something. That's a good one.

That's funny. I always miss his jokes when he's not here. I know. I love his jokes. All right. So once we know they have their scripts, we can move on with number nine. I think. It's already been read. Okay.

He's absolutely right. It's already been read.