About this meeting
- Government Body
- City Council
- Meeting Type
- City Council
- Location
- Northglenn, CO
- Meeting Date
- March 9, 2026
Transcript
272 sections (from 576 segments)
Good evening. I will now call to order the regular city council meeting of March 9th, 2026. Members of the public are invited to attend in-person meetings in council chambers. Public access is also available by telephone by using the call-in numbers on the meeting agenda and tonight's meeting will be broadcast on the city's YouTube channel online. Will the clerk please call the role? Mayor Lightidy here. Mayor Prom Lukeman Heramasa here. Council member Burns here. Council member Severs here. Council member Condo here. Council member Roer here. Council member Goff here. Council member Noiki here. Council member Lighty
here. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
City Manager Guy, are there any responses to resident inquiry? Nothing this evening, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any additions or deletions to tonight's agenda? No. Okay. Public invited to be heard. This is an opportunity for public item or public comment on any item not set for public hearing. Statements are limited to 5 minutes per speaker. Statements must be related to city business and limited to matters of community interest. City clerk small. Is anyone signed up tonight? Yes, Madame Mayor. There are three individuals who signed up in advance. The first person on the list is Tom Lampo.
Good evening. Please state your name and address or ward and provide your comments to council. All right. Hello to North Glenn. I'm Tom Lampo, 3951 Jackson Way. We're living through some incredible times. I've stated before and I'll state it again. We're living through a spiritual battle that is manifesting itself into the natural. God has already won the battle, but our enemy is determined to cause as much harm as possible. In the end, we'll see that God is correcting what has gone wrong and bringing us to a better life. I'm here to lift up North Glenn to the Lord in prayer. So please join me in prayer. Heavenly Father, in Jesus name, we ask that you be the God of North Glenn. You are always welcome here. You are the Lord God Alma Almighty, maker of heaven and earth. Nothing happens without you knowing of it first. We submit all things to you. Ephesians 1:21-22 states, "Now he's far above any ruler or authority or power or leader or anything else, not only in this world, but also in the world to come. God has put all things under the authority of Christ and has made him head over all things for the benefit of the church. You answer to no one. Your authority is above all. We are dependent on you. Father, we lift up to you all members of our military and their families. We are living through times we don't fully understand. And our military has been called upon. Our leaders have determined this to be the best course of action. Let our leaders be mindful of the lives they are commanding. Ecclesiastes 9:18 states, "Wisdom is better than weapons of war, but one bung bungler destroys much good." And in James 15, it states, "If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask of God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you." Let those decisions be dependent on you. Let them seek wisdom from you in every decision they make. Keep our military personnel safe, and grant them wisdom as they perform their duties. Father, we lift up to you the
children of Northland. Your word states in Psalm 127:3, "Children are a gift from the Lord. They are a reward from him. Protect them as they go about their days. Let them be aware of their surroundings and avoid compro compromising situations. Guide them in their thoughts and actions and make your presence known to them. Above all, let them know your word contains truths that will assist them in navigating this world. You are our God and we are your people. In Jesus precious name we pray. Amen. Thank you guys. Have a nice night. Thank you.
The next person on the list is Melissa Ryan. Welcome. Please state your name and address or ward and provide your comments to council.
Yes. Melissa Ry Ward three. Um, I just came here to council to say there are 11 members of the House of Representatives that must vote yes to move forward bill HB26-1285, the MHTL facilities for uh residents. We need these representatives to move forward and support North Glenn with this bill. These representatives are Javier Mabry. I will slaughter these names probably. Michael Carter, Cecilia Espinosa, Lorena Garcia, Chad Clifford, Jennifer Bacon, Yara Sukai, Matt Sapper, Ava Flannel, Rebecca Kelty, Scott Slaw. We need these representatives to move forward with the bill and send it to the vote on the House floor in order to try and keep registered sex offenders from living at the facilities that are nearby schools, daycarees, senior centers, youth groups, and recreation centers. This is not just a North Glenn concern. Residents in PBlo, Highlands Ranch, Colorado Springs, Westminster, and Lakewood will also be affected and should be paying attention. Please email the reps and ask them to protect kids, seniors, and the most vulnerable residents and safety. Please send emails and leave voicemails. Topics of concern you can mention, safety, common sense, school zone safety, initiative by the state, transparency, and trust or lack thereof by the state. This bill will be read Wednesday, March 18th, so time is of the essence. Any representative that votes to kill this bill, I want you to know I and many others will then know that you would have probably covered for Epstein. I'm disappointed that our local city council voted to hold a special town hall on this matter, then apparently has decided not to follow through with one. We're 9 days away with no date. Many residents may not even be aware of this matter because there wasn't even a letter sent out like last time. Your constituents cannot fight this alone. At the bare minimum, please send a cease and assist order to the
state in regards to the MHTL facilities. Thank you. The third person on the list is Tim Long. Welcome. Please state your name and address or provide your comments to council. Good evening. Tim Long, Ward for 10661 Utrella Lane. And I'm here to give some compliments on the uh newsletter that came through starting off with uh Josh Severs Ward 2. I'm very taken with the words you've shared, sir, when you described yourself. Hope you don't take this uh as some kind of a anything but support. You talk about courage. You talk about the politicians and the systems respect and sometimes are not really valued uh those of us that try to speak our truth. Bold and creative maintaining a strong financial foundation. I couldn't agree more and I hope that you get on the finance committee sir. Um, and you always put your priorities in investing in streets and the police, water and energy to name a couple other things. My second complimentary statement goes to the city manager who wrote a very excellent description of the problem we're having with the state transitional facilities. This problem could not be defined better the way that the city manager described it. And when you talk about 72 calls and counting for two years to the House one and House two, these are very difficult times. And I'm just saying, I'm going to reiterate what Melissa just mentioned to you.
You're going for a bill or two bills in front of the state and here you are two years late getting a bill into the legislature. Two years you've waited since April of 24. And here you sit and you're ringing your hands and hoping that all of us will show up at the state house and argue and in support of this. My situation is this. You're not thinking outside of the box. And quite honestly, I'm a little takenback by the city attorney who didn't think of this. Melissa just mentioned it. You have the right and the authority as a home rule city to file a cease and desist order. And if you just stand up and do something like this, you might come about and get their attention instead of just, oh, we'll have to see what the vote's going to be, and here are the people that are going to be voting the wrong way. Cease and desist order. You can do your research on this. My next statement to tell you is I was at the demographics uh presentation last Monday night and Northland has 37,829 people and we're at a 10-year annual growth rate in the negative.1%. And curiously in the handouts I also noticed that um the city does not have a formal banner policy. No formal banner policy. What happens when June when you fly all those things flying around here? So, and also compliment you on your new distinguished budget presentation award won more 35 times to a organization that you will pay dues to as members in good standing in Canada. But here's my bigger concern. I went to the mayor's coffee uh this last Saturday. Three people, residents were there along with three councilmen. And I do appreciate your your attendance, but it came about that um
I was said that I have sour grapes. It was said of me that I was a liar. I didn't mind it being called a bully. But when you started talking about my retirement and my biography, of which I'm not retired, I'm still working very hard. I think that's where I drew the line. I'm here to talk mostly about financial accountability. That's where I come from and all of the things we're talking about. So, instead of reciting everything that I've shared with you before about where and how you balance $16 million loss in your budget by bringing in debt that's not really described properly, you call it a break.
And you'll challenge, I'm sure. But here's what I'm going to share with you. In the November 2025 monthly financial packet on pages 12 and 16 at the top of the page, it depicts the city council spending per each of you. The budget is 20,200, roughly $7,000 for each of you. Unfortunately, as you look more carefully at this, the mayor spent $32,000 of the 20,200 you went over. And council member Roer was very kind to give $2,000 to the mayor. But I ask you, how can you have a budget of 20,200 and spend $32,000? And when you look at where the money was spent, it went to Scutter Press for predict for publishing cards and handouts. And what did that go for? Who's who were the recipients of those mailings? That's very curious to try to find out when you exceed expenditures like this on a personalized basis for your operations as your budgets. This is supposed to be looked at and really requires quite honestly a vote of the taxpayers. Thank you for your time.
Thank you.
Is there anyone on the phone that would like to speak to council? You can press star six to unmute at this time. Is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak to council tonight that did not have a chance to sign up? Welcome. Please state your name and address or ward and provide your comments to council. Rebecca Robinson Udis W 2. Good evening, Mayor and City Council. I am here tonight to highlight the overarching deception that makes House Bill 26-1285 necessary in the first place. Two years ago, the state of Colorado wheeled in a Trojan horse onto Grant Drive. They decorated it with the language of compassionate recovery and mental health support to make it look like a gift in our community. Once it once it had arrived in our school zone, residents found out what was really hiding inside the belly of that horse. a plan to house convicted predators less than 900 feet away from Stuki Elementary. The state of Colorado discreetly used the sympathetic faces of mental health to smuggle sex offenders of forensic population into our school zone. This was not an oversight. This was not an accidental lack of transparency. It was strategy. The state knew that any rational parent would not want their child walking in the direct pathway of predatory criminals. There is a colossal difference between the two groups. Forensic care is a branch of the justice system where predators are ordered to undergo mental health treatment as a part of their criminal sentence. Mixing civil mental health patients with forensic offenders that have predatory tendencies in a low setting in a low security setting creates a predator prey dynamic that endangers both patients and the surrounding neighborhood. It is not
a crime to be diagnosed with schizophrenia. It is not a crime to suffer from severe depression. But it is an egregious crime to make the conscious decision to rape someone or molest a child. The two groups are not one and the same. They never have been and they never will be. We must stop allowing the state to conflate mental health patients with predatory criminals. It is a disservice to our community, but it is also a disservice to actual mental health patients. You cannot provide a sanctuary in a You cannot provide a sanctuary for patients in recovery in a house with criminals that need forensic surveillance. The state deceitfully used the earlier House Bill, House Bill 22-130, as a Trojan horse to route sex offenders in school zones. I I'm guessing they just didn't know where else to put them. So, they wanted to piggy back off of um these because the facilities that are here that they're coming up with in all these different locations, they're really a great idea, but the state is just messing it up by conflating these two groups. It was actually, I would argue, it's a slap in the face for real mental health advocacy. Um, House Bill 261285 would correct this wrong by ensuring that while we support the need for mental health beds, we do not support placing sexual predators in our school zones. Our children at Stoie Elementary should not be the test subjects for a state program that has already seen a recent stabbing in January and over 70 uh 911 calls. Even if the facility is not near a school, I would still argue that mixing these population Mixing the two populations is wrong, dangerous, and a policy failure. The state needs to stop taking fiscal shortcuts with our safety. Reintegrating sexual predators
requires specialized containment, not just a spare bedroom in a mental health home filled with vulnerable individuals. How does a patient who is also a survivor of sexual assault benefit from having to share the same facility space with a sexual predator? How do they benefit from that? They don't. As of right now, these mental health transitional living facilities are nothing more than a Trojan horse. Don't let the state contaminate these muchneeded facilities with convicted sexual predators. While the nation demands accountability regarding the Epstein files and wants consequences for those who protect predators, Colorado is moving in the opposite direction by attempting to smuggle and protect convicted sexual predators within our school zones. The irony there is not lost on me. The state needs to pass House Bill 26-1285. For the committee members who are already planning on voting no, Epstein would be so proud. North Glenn cannot and will not be the Trojan horse that is forced to accept this gift that will only compromise school zones and dismantle our safety from the inside. Thank you.
Thank you. Is there anyone else in the audience that would like to speak to council that did not have a chance to sign up? Okay. All right. We're going to move to proclamations. We have two tonight. If council would join me down front. Good evening. So, our first proclamation tonight is brain injury awareness month. Wow. Come on down. I love it. No, I'm so glad you're here. So, chair of the DICE board, Ryan Easterling Babin, the DICE board recommended this proclamation along with council member Madison Lighty. And they are both here to accept this proclamation tonight. And I see more DICE board members. Anyone want to come? Do you want to join us? No. I like your ribbon. All right. March is recognized nationwide as brain injury awareness month to raise awareness about brain injury prevention, education, and support for survivors and their families. And whereas brain injuries, whether traumatic or acquired, can occur due to falls, motor vehicle crashes, sports injuries, acts of violence, stroke, tumors, or other medical conditions, and can affect individuals of all ages. And whereas brain injury is
often referred to as an invisible injury, as its physical, cognitive, emotional, and behavioral effects may not be immediately apparent, yet may significantly impact a person's daily life. And whereas millions of Americans, including residents of North Glenn, live with the effect of brain injury, demonstrating resilience, strength, and determination as they navigate recovery and long-term challenges. And whereas prevention strategies such as wearing seat belts and helmets, practicing safe driving habits, implementing fall prevention measures, and promoting safe recreational environments can significantly reduce the risk of brain injury. And whereas caregivers, health care professionals, educators, advocates, and community organizations provide critical support, resources, and services that help individuals with brain injury live with dignity and participate fully in their communities. Now therefore, I, Meredith Lighty, mayor of the city of North Glenn, Colorado, do hereby proclaim March 2026 as brain injury awareness month in the city of North Glenn, and encourage all residents to increase their understanding of brain injury, support prevention efforts, and recognize the strength and perseverance of survivors and their families. Dated at North Glenn, Colorado, this 9th day of March, 2026. So, this is for you. Would you like to add anything?
Sorry. Thank you.
I'm not as good as Ryan is when he gets proclamations. He just talks. So, but first, I want to thank the DICE board for bringing this up. Um, as someone living with a traumatic brain injury, this recognition is deeply personal to me. Your brain is incredibly important. It controls everything you do, everything you feel, and everything that you are. When it's injured, life changes in ways that are often invisible to other invisible to others yet profoundly impactful every single day. Traumatic brain injuries remain one of the leading causes of death and disabilities for under for individuals under the age of 45. That reality underscores how critical awareness, prevention, and education truly are. By recognizing this month, we are helping reduce stigma, encourage understanding, and show support for individuals and families navigating life after brain injury. I also want to take a moment to encourage our community, as stated in the proclamation, um to always protect your brain. Wear a helmet when you're riding a bike. Always wear a seat belt, even if you're only going a short distance. These small, simple actions can prevent lifealtering consequences. Thank you again for your support for this proclamation and standing with those impacted by brain injury.
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All right. I would also like to well Celeste thanks for coming. Uh so we have dice board members with us for women's history month as well. This is Celeste Celeste Jackson. Women's History Month is celebrated each March to honor the vital contributions of women to the history, culture, and progress of our nation and our local communities. And whereas the 2026 national theme, leading the change women shaping a sustainable future, recognizes the essential role women play in advancing environmental stewardship, economic vitality, civic leadership, and inclusive decision-making for generations to come. And whereas the city of North Glenn has long been shaped and strengthened by the leadership, service, and vision of women who have helped guide the community through growth, innovation, and transformation. And whereas women in North Glenn continue to lead and serve across our community as elected officials, city staff, members of boards and commissions, educators, business owners, nonprofit leaders, public safety professionals, neighborhood advocates, and dedicated volunteers contributing to initiatives that support water conservation, park and open space stewardship, public safety, economic development, civic engagement, and inclusive community building. And whereas through their leadership, women past and present have strengthened North Glenn's civic life, enhanced its environmental and economic sustainability, and reinforced our shared commitment to opportunity, equity, and responsible growth. Now therefore, I, Meredith Lighty, mayor of the city of North Glenn, Colorado, do hereby proclaim March 2026 as Women's History Month in the city of North Glenn, and encourage all residents to celebrate the women who are leading
change, shaping a sustainable future, and strengthening our community for generations to come. Dated at North Glenn, Colorado, this 9th day of March, 2026. So, thank you. Would you like to add Thanks. Well, women's history is American history. And if you're interested in learning about women's history, visit your public library or visit Colorado Women's Hall of Fame and you can see all of the different contributions that have been celebrated already. Um, and a new ex a new group will be coming in in the new year and honored for their contributions to the state of Colorado. Thank you.
Well, thank you. And before we take the photo, I would like to invite our women leaders to come on up and join us for this photo. So if you feel comfortable, we included our volunteers. We have very strong women that came to speak tonight if you would like to join us, but definitely seated city leadership, including our esteemed city clerk. Will you join us for a quick photo? Yeah, you hold it.
Come on. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Anybody else? You want to come? Come join us. Our guests, you're welcome. You contribute amazingly to our community. Anyone else? Okay. All right. I think I can see everybody. Good. All right. One, two, three. All right. Wonderful. Thank you. Yeah, I did. All right. Next up, we have a presentation, the Youth Commission 2025 annual update. So, I'd like to welcome youth commission members Brandon Martin. Is Sarah with you as well?
Uh Sarah is not here today. Okay. Well, Brandon, take it away.
Uh good evening, council. My name is Brandon Martin and I am currently serving as the vice president of the youth commission and I'm here to present the annual report of 2025. Uh sorry I was not aware of the slideshow. So um as of the board of directors um uh finishing up in 2025 uh there was Mega Bippen who was the vice president, Leon Shei who was the secretary, Anushia Canel who was the public rec relations and communications manager, Cheyenne Ger who was a board member, myself who was a board member too, and um who completed the service was Kate File. Um oh that's too far. Okay. Um, for the board openings, uh, down at the bottom of the page, as of December 2025, there were 10 vacancies of the Youth Commission board of directors, um, in an effort to fill the vacant positions that would be left by several seniors graduating. In May 2025, the commission turned its attention to increasing recruitment efforts over completing priority projects. openings were posted on or on the youth commission's web page, social media, uh Northland Parks Recreation and Cultural Activity Guide and have been promoted to the North Glenn connection. U moving on to the recruitment efforts, um there was the school recruitment, the mayor's monthly minute, and Nasley's video spotlight. Uh first off is the school recruitment. The commission made efforts to directly contact middle and high school or high schools in Northland and in the Adams 12 district by directing staff uh Lison to begin acting on their behalf for recruitment. The middle schoolers that were contacted are Silver Hills Northland uh sorry Northland Middle School STEM Lab and Hollesam Ka. Um, I went to Wholesome KA and that is actually how I found out about that is because my little sister
um read the newsletter and saw the email and um anyways the list of high schools that were contacted are the Northland High School, the um Vantage Point, Mountain Range, Horizon, and Legacy. Additionally, board members have been asked to um or have asked their fellow peers at their schools to or to join the commission. Uh moving on to the mayor's monthly minute. Um, Mera Bippen, Nasie Sufyani, and Susa were interviewed by Mayor Ley for the mayor's monthly minute in April with the goal to promote the vacant board positions for the youth commission. These graduated or yeah, these graduated board members discussed projects they enjoyed working on such as healthy eating habits and mental health and public spotlight. As for Nasley's video spotlight, um, she was highlighted in an interview explaining why she joined the commission and how it how it has shaped her. Sorry, did I skip? Okay. Okay. Thank you. Um how it has shaped her as a person and why others should get involved. She um explained that she had took for external opportunities in order to get involved in the community outside of her school. Nasie expressed her love for all projects she worked on because uh they are completed determined by youth in the youth commission. Uh lastly, her constant communication with her or with the community. Uh Neslie determined that she had improved leadership skills by participating on the board. Um as for the outreach efforts at the bottom of the page, um this was by Mega who was a vice president and me. Uh the commission continued to be involved within or with community events in Northland such as Safe Havens or Safe Street Halloween, um the Northland Pride and Christmas Crusade. Um prior to Safe Street taking place, the commission received a request for candy donations. The board donated a little under $500 worth of candy to the event. Kate, the previous board
president, attended North Glenn Pride at a table uh and continue pres u sorry and continue positive collaboration with the diversity, inclusivity, and social equity board. Finally, myself and Cheyenne helped wrap presents at the justice center in support of the efforts of the Christmas crusade. Moving on to the priority projects um there is environmental advocacy and safe havens. So for the environmental advocacy in 2025 the youth can the youth commission focused on environmental advocacy through a social media campaign and connecting teens to earth friendly activities in the community. The board shared ideas for possible events and projects to lead and participate in and settled on celebrating awareness days on social media such as global recycling day and worldwide day. The commission also intended to participate the farmer's highline canal cleanup but ended up having to take a sick day. Uh through these efforts, the board was able to convey the importance of protecting the environment, how small actions can make a difference and how youth commission can play active role in keeping their clean or their community clean and safe. Um in terms of the safe haven havens in 2025, the commission made limited progress on developing safe havens for local teens. Although no projects were implemented, the board engaged in meaningful discussions, shared ideas on how to create safe spaces, and provided opportunities for youth to get involved. These conversations helped create a baseline understanding of the community's needs and gave structure with a purpose to future Safe Haven project plans. The Safe Haven goal has been moved forward into 2026 with the goal to have it completed the first half of the year. The youth commission aims to make progress by providing advocacy in the development of programs and youth or and opportunities that allow supportive and safe spaces for youth and teens in Northland such as recreation centers, after school dropin activities. Um the board continues to support places for
youth and safety and and comfort. Moving on to boards and commissions training. Uh there was um this was presented by Mega who's the vice president. So Anushia Canal, Alex Sandu and Leon Shei were able to attend the city's first boards and commissions training to review the boards and commissions handbook other or with the city boards and commissions. The commissioners were able to better understand the open meetings and took away some tips and advice for how to better serve the board and and away some tips and and sorry and advice for how to better serve the board and their community. These members were also able to learn more about community or more about some of the other boards and commissions that are part of the North community as well as the purpose and missions of these boards. um under the dome was um was an opportunity for members of the youth commission to be able to meet with legislative members of the Colorado state building uh capital building. Members of the board were able to sit on a legislative session and meet with the Colorado representatives to hear some of the unique projects they were working on. The commissioners were able to meet with the representative Jenny Wilford who represents Colorado's 34th district. They were able to discuss important issues for youth in Northland and how some of these topics can be addressed as well as some of the other uh projects that representatives Wilford was working on. As for the 2026 priority projects, at the end of 2025, the new board members met to discuss what goals they would like to achieve in 2026 and how to address projects incomplete in 2025. Board members ultimately decided to extend for the 2025 safe havens project into 2026 in or in addition to new projects. Teen engagement was selected
to address increasing or increasing interest in access to programs for youth and teens in the community. Youth um youth addiction awareness was selected to address the consistent need to ensure that the community members are aware of how addiction affects youth in the community and to connect youth to available resources. And the last part is the graduating seniors who include the following Mera Bippen, Alex Akim Sandu, um Susha, and Nasley Sufi. Thank you so much for allowing me to present the annual report and I yield your time to questions.
Thank you. Does anyone have any questions, comments? Council member Roer. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Thank you for being here and thank you for your service to our to your community and thank you for being a leader within the youth and the you guys are the future. So, thank you so much. Thank you, Council Member. Council member Burns.
Thank you, Madame Mayor. Yes, thank you so much. Um, Council Member Roer is the new liaison, but I was for many of this report, for much of this report, and it was wonderful working with the youth commission. Y'all are so inspiring, and I love like the initiatives that you're continuing to do in the community are so important. So, keep it up. We really appreciate the work you do. Thank you, Council Member. Council member Lighty,
I just want to echo some of the things that my fellow council members said. Um, I also want to thank you so much for coming. You did such a great job. You you publicly speak very well. I would be so nervous. Um, but also again, thank you so much for all of the work that you guys do and you're continuing to doing. The youth engagement piece stood out to me. just it's amazing that you guys are still trying to engage everyone even if sometimes it feels like maybe no one's paying attention but you guys are still working so hard and it's amazing. Thank you council member Mayor Prom.
Thank you Madame Mayor. Thank you so much for being here. I was also a former uh council liaison. Um all those kids that graduated they were in my group and I just want to say keep doing what you're doing. It continues even when you leave the commission. I still hear from some of those uh former commissioners and they're doing great things including still working on some of those issues that you're working on like youth addiction. So that legacy continues and I'm just so proud of the work that you're doing. So thanks for being a part of it. Thank you council member.
Thank you Brandon. That was a lovely presentation. We always enjoy hearing a summary of the work that's been done but also listening to your priorities for the coming year. Um, we're happy to have you. Really looking forward to the work that you're going to do. Thank you for supporting the North Glenn community. Thank you for allowing us. Have a good night.
Okay, moving to council communications. We'll start with Council Member Burns.
Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, thank you to the residents who came out and spoke about our bill. Council member Siver will be updating um from the legislative committee, so I'll let him report out on that. Um otherwise, I am recovering from health, so we're just getting back into the swing of things. I want to say um my heart is with all the family members that have already lost someone to the conflict in the Middle East. My heart goes out to you all, including someone who was stationed here in Colorado. Um, on a lighter note, happy International Women's Day yesterday and happy women's history month everyone. Wearing white again in support. Um, and I just want to say a special shout out to the DICE board and my fellow ward mate for bringing um, brain injury awareness to the forefront. Um, when I was in my early 20s, I suffered a traumatic brain injury and learned how to walk and talk and write again. Um, and so this is a big deal. Um, it's really where I learned how important access to healthcare is. Um, as well as, you know, tomorrow isn't guaranteed, so everyone should try their best today. Um, thank you. That's it.
Thank you, Council Member Lighty.
Thank you. Um, I also would like to echo some of the things that Council Member Burns just said. Um, yes, brain injury awareness month is super important to me. I think living the past four years with my traumatic brain injury, it changes your entire world. It changes everything. Um, and it changes the way that you interact with I mean the health I love that you brought that up, the health care system. I was like, whoa, that really changes your perspective on things. And so, um, it's huge and there's people all over the world that are facing that. Um, a couple weeks ago I was able to attend a tour of the Aurora Regional Navigation Campus. That is the most amazing place I've ever been to. It was so awesome to see the different levels, the different tiers that they offer, um the different programs that they offer, the different resources, the different it was so amazing. We walked in and they were explaining how well here you can come get your documents and well if you need this and if you get a court date, hey well here's a whole section where you can meet with your um prosecutor and you can do all the things in this campus. And so it was really really amazing and I left inspired and I left in I left in a way better mood than I went walking in there to. So I would just like everyone to kind of look look out for that especially on council. So yeah,
council member Severs.
Thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh yes. So it's been two weeks since we had a regular meeting. On uh Tuesday, February 24th, I attended a candidate forum in Thornton for uh Congressional District 8. Uh so whoever's going to face up uh Gabe Evans, uh Rep. Manny Rutnell was there, Evan Muning, and Shannon Bird's the other candidate. So I just I'm going to keep promoting uh voting until votes are cast and done. So 112 days till the primary, June 30th. 239 days till the midterm general elections November 3rd. Uh 18 out of the 35 state senators are up for re-election. All 65 state house reps are up for a re-election. All 435 US House reps are up for re-election. And 33 out of the 100 US senators are up for re-election. So if you don't like how things are going, go change it. um on Tuesday right after I actually didn't finish the candidate forum before we went to we transitioned over to to prost for the community input session on 104th uh area. So I just want to thank the community for coming out. Seemed like they got good traction and thanks to the staff and press for having us. Um, on Friday, March 6th, I attended the Adams County State of the Region ACR Rep uh Adams County Regional Economic Partnership. Uh, the conversations were around energy infrastructure production, job sector changes, demographics, educational needs, and more. Uh, I was there with council member Condo and the economic development director Allison Moding, Marissa Phillips, and Christy Chambers. I know Mayor Prom was planning to be there, but she was recovering from an illness. Sorry to I'm glad to see you back. Um, also I swung by uh uh Post22, American Legion Post22 for uh
coffee with the mayor. Um that I had to go to work. Um and uh today I prior to the legislative policy committee, I spent time with our crew manager, Jessica. uh got to see the justice center a little bit, but uh we went out to a few situations and uh I I promised as you know newer council member to keep trying to get to know uh the staff and all the different departments we have 10 or 11. So that was really the first effort to get out there with folks and I'm going to keep trying to do that. There's a lot to talk about with legislative policy stuff so I'll just try to scream through it real quick. This is not going to be like a detailed list. I I I I ask everyone to go to the Colorado legislature, look up bills. They have them by sections. So, there's about 65 days left in the legislative se session. Over 500 uh bills and resolutions have been um done. Um and the budget will be introduced on March 30th. So, you guys I think 100 mil 800 million that are going to be cut. um some bills quickly to discuss HB26 uh 10001. It's the local control over allowing nonprofits and such to build affordable housing. Um we oppose it for local control reasons. Uh also 1114 minimum lot size. Uh so if you don't want your neighbor's house to be knocked down and and then they build eight units on it, um that's we don't want that. Also HB uh 1308. It's a lot split splitting bill. If you don't want your neighbor's house to be split into two houses and changed without any local control, that's important. Um let's see. There's a lot of bills. I don't think I am going to cover them all. They're
specific. We have a We have a website, too. Is it updated? I don't know if the so uh our bill uh let's see where is it at uh 12 uh where is it 1285 1285 HP26 1285 uh is up for committee on March 18th at 1:30 p.m. I know we're trying to figure out who's testifying there. So if you want like to show up, no one can stop you. You can go to the Colorado legislature and sign up with no one else involved. You can just sign up for it. Um, is there any other ones you want to cover?
There's a lot of bills. So, uh, we just met for an hour and, uh, I can't sit here for an hour and talk about it. So, um, they can email the leg committee if they have any questions. They can email the legislative Burns, you can go ahead and talk.
You did a great first job reporting out. I'd have to say thank you to Council Member Severs. He's new on the legislative committee. This is his first reporting out and it's a lot. Um, wow. So, we have a website on our north on northland.org um a subpage that we will update where um that has contact information for all of our representatives and who we're working with. Um and we are and thank you so much um Melissa, I'm just going to call your use your first name. Is that okay? Um for for listing out the 11 um uh state reps who are on the committee. Um we have a divide and conquer sort of situation going on there as well. Um and um if anyone does have any questions, feel free to email the legislative committee and we're happy to chat about whatever um that is myself, Council Member Severs, and Mayor Prom Lukeman Hiramasa um with any questions and then we will be updating the website um which I think is north.org backlegislative committee. I think that's the URL. We can we will get that information out, but I'm pretty sure that's it. All right. Sorry, it's council member.
And finally, uh, thanks for council member Burns for saving me. Um, I, as a Iraq vet, I just want to say I don't think a war of choice is a great use of the federal dollars. Um, Iran is a a country of 93 million, three times the size of Iraq, sim similar mountainous landscape terrain to Afghanistan. uh maxed out when we were in Iraq, we had 170,000 troops and 100,000 in Afghanistan. Uh again, this is twice as many people. Uh I would like to call out uh Army Sergeant Benjamin Pennington out of Fort Carson, Colorado, who was one of our KIA recently. Um he's from Kentucky originally. Uh this conflict is going to turn into a world war if you don't correct yourself or wreck yourself. Uh the GCC golf core operation council 80% of the food consumed uh our imports through the straight straight of Himirus. U 20 million barrels per day travel through there. 20% of the world's oil uh which is the biggest thing for our friends like Japan. 75% of their oil goes through the straight of Hermuse. Um, and we're just the more I read I have a ton of facts in front of you. I'm not going to read them off to you, but I think it's another mistake. Thank you,
Council Member Noiki. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Uh, nothing for me tonight. Council member Condo.
Thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh, three items. First of all, hopefully most of you or all of you on the day should have received an email from North Metro uh discussing the district tour that's going to take place on April 30th from 9:00 a.m. to 4. You did not. Okay. I will make sure that the North Metro folks do send that to you. Uh this is a joint tour with the Broomfield City and County of Broomfield council members and mayor. So, great opportunity to get to know your other uh counterparts in the wonderful city and county of Broomfield. Again, Thursday, April 30th, bus transportation provided or if you cannot stay the entire time, we can coordinate to have you join via personal vehicle. There will be tours of the training center, which happens to be in North Glenn. Yay. Uh as well as two other or three other fire stations both in Northland and the Brewill area. Uh second of all, I as uh council member uh uh Josh just mentioned, Josh Severs just mentioned, I was at the AC rep meeting. Uh I thought it was a very interesting presentation. Uh the the second uh person in charge there at DOA, I think his name is Martinez. I'm forgetting of his last name, but uh he presented on the demographics that are going on at the state level, actually at the federal at the at US level, state, county, and then all the way down to North Glenn. So, he did drill down. Uh but I just want to share with the public just one takeaway. I thought it was really an epiphany, and that is that uh you know, the state continues to grow through a lot of influx of of new people coming from other places. And usually they're working professionals with college degrees, which is great. Um, and then of course they get married and have kids and then all of a sudden they can't find child care and then they end up moving back to the states from which they came from because their parents or the grandparents can actually look after
the kids. So then all of a sudden we have a brain drain. So I I thought it was really fascinating to really understand that really Colorado has has a great education system. We we bring a lot of talent in, we develop that talent, but we're not able to keep it just because either housing is not affordable and or uh child care is just out of reach. So, that's one thing that I I think I will reflect on and think about as as we work through our policies and talk to other legislators, legislators, uh to figure out how to how to fix that problem. Finally, a shout out to a resident. Um, I tried to uh sign her up for the uh uh good neighbor award and I asked for her name and phone number which she was really embarrassed to share with me. She said, "You know, my name is Diana and I'm just happy to come out here on the Greenway Trail along Grant Ditch and uh pick up the trash." And and she said there was no need for putting me in for recognition, but I I am going to publicly embarrass her now. Uh obviously, uh Diana, if you're watching, you know who you are. Uh but she she does this during the winter time because she's afraid of doing it in the summer when there are snakes. And uh I tried to reassure her that unlike Arizona where we have rattler snakes there, uh you know, the snakes here in Colorado are not poisonous. But um nonetheless,
snakes. Yeah, we have poisonous snakes. Well, at least in North Glenn along our greenway trails, as far as I know, Now, if you'd like me to go and walk my dog and try and find a rattlesnake. No, no, don't do that. I know this is going sideways, but um the Yeah, I I am the jokester on council, so I do like to keep it light, but in all seriousness, I you know, this is just one of many residents that just go out and they do what they do. They're not seeking, you know, fame or reward. They they do it because they love their city. And on behalf of those people, I I just want to say thank you. That's all I have, Madam Mayor. Thank you, Council Member Roer.
Thank you, Madame Mayor. Nothing for me tonight. Thank you,
Mayor Prom. Something's moved here. Um, thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, first of all, I want to say thank you to Council Member Lighty. I thought that was incredibly brave of you to share your story and what you've been through. Um, and also Council Member Burns. Um, that is such an important proclamation. Um, I had a terrible car accident a year ago, too. So, I know life is not guaranteed. Tomorrow's not guaranteed. Um, but I I thought it was really special that we were able to have this proclamation. So, thank you and happy International Women's Day, of course. All right, with that being said, um I did miss a lot because I had a little stint in the ER, but I'm here, so all is good. Um what I will go over briefly is we've had a bunch of um community engagement and education committee meetings for the family justice center. And just to let you all know, we're still working still on like grassroots stuff, things like flyers, um setting up traumainformed training that will help inform the wording and our flyers and getting input from survivors of domestic violence for that type of information I think is important as well. So, those are the kinds of things that we're working on and also, you know, information that will go out to city council members, for example, to support the FJC versus what community members need to know on what an FJC is, which a lot of folks don't know. So, more coming on that, but we are working hard. We've had at least four meetings in the last couple of weeks, so we will continue working on that. Um, and setting up micro trainings. Uh, I also toured the Aurora Regional Navigation Campus as Council Member Lighty reported out on that. It was very inspirational um to see how they help folks. You know, there's that saying, not a hand out, but a hand up. And I think they truly tried to do that there. Um, they really try to set folks up for success. And there's just a lot of everyday people that were
there. There's a lot of people, but you know, they had their dogs and I'm like, I, you know, I love my dog. like I couldn't imagine having to be separated from your your pets. They're building kennels. They have special rooms for folks that are ready for that next level of employment and training and a little bit more privacy in the mayor. I don't want to steal her thunder, but she used the word dignity and that stuck with me. So, I'll leave it at that if if she would like to report more out on that. But, it was just a you know, it's just a reality check. You just never know what what life might throw at you and that might change your life and so you try to see the human human portion of that and I think I saw that a lot. So that was really cool to see and um took a tour of the good sheeperd pantry council member I don't I don't think you reported out on that. Okay. um along with uh council member Condo and that was just a great opportunity to see what we do here in our local community to help folks and you know women and children in there just just getting food for their families. Um so that was it was pretty cool to see too knowing that we have programs in Adams County that we you know approved to kind of change how we use our CDBG funds to support more of those. Um, so I think it was important just to to see that. And those are that's an option for anyone on city council that would like to to show up and do a tour. Just let them know. They're happy to show you. Um, we also learned about how much they need. So, um, kind of heartbreaking and heartwarming all at the same time. Um, I went to a Rotary Club meeting and got to see Fire Chief Dockerty uh, talk a little bit about what's going on in our community, which was really cool. uh the cost of fire trucks and have doubled and that was pretty crazy. It takes four years to get a fire truck now um on order which is insane. Um talked about that and the calls for service which are exponentially growing mostly
medical and you know a lot of our folks are served by North Metro. So um important to continue to support that. And then after that I got really really sick. So didn't go to this, didn't go to that. Um, and we had legislative committee today and thank you council member Severs. You did just fine reporting out. It is a lot. I will add just something to that because when we hear or when residents hear we opposed we're opposing a bill um that uh prevents, you know, lot splitting and affordable housing. None of these bills ensure affordable housing. They take away local authority. um our ability to to determine whether we have the infrastructure to support, you know, more residential density in our your neighborhoods. You know, your your neighborhood street of seven houses could turn into 14 houses could turn into duplexes and all of and on and on and on. And we just need to have a say in that on how our services are utilized. and none of them actually can guarantee that those homes that are being built are affordable. So, I'll just add that. And the last thing is there was a comment. Um, and public comment is I I love it. I encourage everyone to say whatever they want to say, but there was some information misinformation out there that we have done nothing in the last two years regarding this mental health treatment facility bill. And I just have to say come talk to any of us and we will tell you personally and have a conversation. and have coffee with us and we will fill you in on all the things we have been working very hard on. Um, I encourage you to look up how a bill becomes law. Uh, there's like a whole I think there's a whole PowerPoint on uh the Colorado Gem General general assembly's website that you can look up or just Google it. It is an intense process. It is a very complicated process. Um, you don't just say we're going to make a bill, snap your fingers and it happens. So, it has taken two
years, but we're pretty proud to be where we are right now. We're going to keep fighting for that. That is all, madame mayor. Thank you. Thank you. And apologies. I did not intentionally skip Council Member Goff, but she is with us. So, sorry, Council Member Goff.
Thank you, Mayor. No problem. I first apologize that I couldn't be there with you. Um, I was called away on a family emergency, so I'm out of the state. Um, I do appreciate bringing attention to Women's History Month. Um we women have made a lot of progress in recent decades and we want to make sure that we continue that and not lose any of our rights or um any of the advances that we have made in our society. So please uh take time to to think about it to um do some reading uh and help everyone to celebrate the women in their lives. Uh, and then the other thing I wanted to say is, um, there were council member Condo had so many things to talk about, but um, this Saturday is the W three meeting. Uh, it'll be, uh, in city council building at 10:00 a.m. and we, uh, invite, you don't have to be a W three member to come and attend that. But that will be give you a chance to talk to your W3 representatives. I do plan on being there for that meeting, so I hope to see a lot of you there. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, I have just a few things. Um, I attended my first North Glenn Arts and Humanities Foundation board. That is a fun group. They are lovely. Uh, and it was very interesting. It was a solid meeting with all sorts of things like the budget, upcoming events, and so much more. Please check out their website. They have really incredible events coming up. And I did get a sneak peek and I cannot tell you what's coming next year, but there's some pretty amazing events coming uh in the 26 27 year. We do have an amazing theater with an incredible staff and they pull in some high quality um art. So, please come see it. Also, I did attend the Aurora Navigation Center tour. I know two people have already discussed it. The word dignity was in my my brain the
whole entire time. It was an extremely inspirational tour for sure. I think what I was most impressed by is this the scaffolded tiered system. It supports people. It puts the right amount of scaffolds in place for them to be successful. It was just really beautifully done. It was also safe. They highlighted a lot of the safety features that they have in place and it was it was just great and so I was really honored to be able to take that tour. Attended the ribbon cutting for a new business in North Glenn. The big blue swim school has opened in the North Glenn marketplace. We always like to see a new business in that space so we don't have empty uh empty spaces over there. This is a great organization. Learning how to swim is a life skill. One of the highlights for me is that they do have a program for individuals with disabilities and that's not as common u for swim schools. And so if you are interested in learning how to swim or you want your small children to learn how to swim, check it out. Uh the Oh, I want to thank Tom. He comes every week and it's just so nice. And we're not the only city he comes to. I don't know if people know that. He does a little bit of a tour in the area and prays for us all, which is just so kind, but I appreciated his words tonight. Um, yeah, and let's see. Oh, I I was going to say, you can tell we we think alike up here, my mayor prom and I um because a lot of what she shared was exactly what was in my notes about the public comment tonight. So, the mental health transitional living facility, we 100% agree with all of the sentiments that were presented at the podium tonight. We know this is a problem and it was also
raised um at my coffee with the mayor on Saturday. The question was, why have you done nothing for two years? And I do encourage you if that is your feeling about it, please send us an email. We can list all of the things that we have been doing for the last two years. It is a lot of work. It's all behind the scenes. We have been working with legislators. We have been, you know, constantly trying to get people to help us. It has been a hard-fought battle. So, when she says we're proud of where we are, we are, but we're also not stopping the energy and the fight that we have. So, we're going to be active in the next couple weeks. We want to get this through committee. We want to get it passed. It is critical that it is passed. And if you saw the CBS news story, I wanted to thank our uh police chief Jim May. He did a great job on camera. Well done. And uh also our crew manager, Jessica Hol was part of the interview and it was really important to elevate it for the public that this is something that the state needs to pay attention to. It is critical that they pay attention to it. And but it's it's kind of a a dual fight. We are really wanting this bill to pass, but we also want more um like authority and we want them to pay attention to these sites and manage them well so that they are safe for the residents that live there. But as she said, I also had written down like to know how long it takes a bill to go through the Colorado legislature is painful. The state legislators that we have, they get five bills, maybe a sixth bill every year, and they pick those a year to a year and a half ahead. They have them in their their list of things they want to accomplish while they are serving. And we couldn't get it in. We
fought and fought and fought and we ended up going with two legislators that are not ours. So, we are very grateful to Representative Goldstein for authoring the bill along with uh support from uh Senator Kyle Mllikica. So, those are neither of those are our representatives. So, we fought outside of North Glenn to get that help. And so again, if you're curious about that or if you do think we took our eye off the ball, please email us and we will let you know all of the work that went on. Um, and just to respond a little bit to the um lack of a town hall, we did want to host a town hall, but it was critical that we had state leaders there, state staff, the staff that's managing these facilities. We needed them to attend and communicating with them and getting on their schedule was a struggle and we pushed and pushed and I I want to thank city staff and especially our city attorney. He also has been very diligent through this process and we really really appreciate it. So just to know we're obviously very passionate about it. We have not stopped focusing on it and we're hoping to get it across the finish line. And that is all I have. So, city clerk small.
Thank you, madame mayor. I do not have any updates tonight. Thank you, city manager guy.
I have two updates this evening, mayor and councel. The first is that um we'll be hosting a candidate meet and greet this Thursday, March 12th, at 6 p.m. in the community rooms for the position of communications, marketing, and engagement director. So, please feel free to attend that session and get to know the two candidates that'll be presenting. Um, and one of them will be our next director of communications. The, um, second update that I have for you this evening is there was a family justice center steering committee this evening. So, to echo what mayor prom shared earlier, part of that meeting was a micro training based on the recommendations of a subcommittee. I was a trauma informed training provided by Dr. Amber Bourne with reducing hope which is a re um local nonprofit that supports um victims of domestic violence. Um they are still working through the process of selecting an executive director. So hopefully by the next steering committee meeting we'll have an update to share on that front as well as um the timeline for opening the temporary FJC is still Q3 um Q4 of this year. That's all I have this evening. Thank you.
Thank you, city Attorney Hoffman.
Good evening, Madame Mayor, members of council. The only thing I would add to the discussion about the pending legislation is that North Glenn and also the Colorado Municipal League as part of this process have also partnered with the Colorado Colorado Association of School Boards. Um, and I think that's probably the a significant indication of um sort of the broadreaching nature of this type of legislation and that it applies statewide. And you know, frankly, if North Glenn took the tact of trying to file some sort of cease and desist order against a state facility, um I would be asking you for permission to pay attorney fees and costs for the other side when we lost um based on the existing law in the state of Colorado that was frankly made by the city of North Glenn um about 25 years ago in a Supreme Court case called the city of North Glenn versus Abara. So we know um the best ways to try to manage this and trying to litigate against the state on that type of issue would be a losing proposition.
Thank you for that clarification.
Okay. Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda? Motion to approve. Seconded. Please open the vote. The vote is open. Council member Goff, how do you vote? Yes. Thank you. Okay. Sorry, I hadn't logged in. My bad. Good. I know. I was logged out. Okay. I will close that vote and the consent agenda passes unanimously. Thank you. We have quite a few resolutions tonight. We will start with CR46. Will the clerk please read the title?
A resolution approving a professional services agreement between the city of North Glenn and Joy Riot LLC for a communications and marketing assessment. City Manager Heather. Move for Oops. Move for approval. Second. Thank you. Now, I'd like to welcome City Manager Heather Guyire to the podium to provide a summary of this item. Good evening.
And good evening, Mayor and Council. I'd like to provide some background for the public's benefit. We are advancing CR 46 this evening um which is to initiate an independent evaluation of the city's communications. The purpose of this project is three-fold. First, to evaluate the city's communications and marketing strategies, tools, staffing, and resources to identify strengths, gaps, and opportunities. and to provide recommendations for a forwardlooking, sustainable and measurable strategy. Ultimately, we are hoping to develop a unified marketing strategy and brand identity that builds trust, strengthens community pride, promotes engagement, supports economic vitality, and positions the city of Northland as the community of choice. So, a couple things to know about the scope of services that was provided to you in your packet. Um, initially when the city received um requests for proposals, we received responses from 35 firms, which is an incredible response on this project. um the subcommittee made up of U. Mayor Prom, Council members Condo and Burns and myself, we interviewed um several of those firms and the subcommittee did decide to recommend to council for consideration tonight the firm of Joy Riot. I do have members of the firm here this evening and in a moment I'll turn it over to John Armstrong the chief creative officer who can share a little bit about the project and he is also here to answer any questions about the scope. Um after the initial interview process um I did go back and relook at the scope and I did that was me expand
the scope um to make sure that we included a robust engagement process in particular bringing in staff um in the process. So um we expanded the initial interviews that were set at 10. We expanded them to 16. Um but you can see in the scope of services it's itemized with um groups of employees that are critical to engage in this process to get their feedback buy in as well as they're the the experts within their respective um areas um of the city. And so we really want to make sure they're brought into this process early on. We also expanded the possible in-person um engagement with city council um from up to four in-person meetings rather than a couple, which I felt was very appropriate. If we don't end up needing those, we won't use those. So, I'd encourage you to think about the budget amount of $73,112 as a not to exceed amount. This project is scheduled to kick off tomorrow. We have team members here as I mentioned and it's scheduled to run through mid October. Um certainly subject to change but I think um also in your packet you see an itemized timeline and I think we can easily keep on schedule and keep the project moving forward. So, with that, I'd like to turn it over to John Armstrong, who can um introduce his other team members with him tonight. And um we're happy to answer any questions.
Good evening. Good evening. Thank you, city manager Guyire. Nice to meet everybody. Some of you I've met before. I'm John Armstrong, the co-founder and chief creative officer of Joy Riot, an advertising agency I started nine years ago with my other co-founder. With us is member of our staff, Natalie, and Rick Emirado from CCG, who is going to help us in the project. Um, Rick, do you want to introduce yourself quickly?
Like John said, my name is uh Rick Amardado. It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of the council and staff. Um, I'm a principal at Civic Consulting Group. We are a multid-disciplinary firm that offers services to municipalities, nonprofits, and the private sector. And we're a very interesting group. We're made up of past city administrators. I myself have been an assistant city manager, economic development managers and directors, as well as city attorneys and public information officers. So, we have a breath of experience in the particular type of communications that municipalities do. Um, we understand the varied constituencies that you have. Um, we know that, um, you know, depending on who you're talking to and what you're talking about, how you communicate is going to be different. So, our role here is to make sure that, um, we have a good lens to focus your communication process through. So, it's a pleasure to be here and I can't wait to get started and to to learn a lot about North Glenn. It seems to be a wonderful community. I know this is just the start, but one of the best parts of this job is getting to come to a community and learn all about it. So, thank you.
It's our second trip and we're already enjoying it. Um, just to give you an idea and all this is in your packet, but in broad strokes, I'll go over the scope of work. So, we start with an information immersion. That's when city manager guy talked about starting tomorrow. That's the plan that we start the immersion tomorrow. From there we go into stakeholder engagement. That's us speaking right to different stakeholders. Um a community survey benchmarking against peer municipalities which will inform best practices that leads into a gap analysis. Where are we? Where do we want to be? What's the gap in between those two? All of this ends with an implementation road map. So okay, we know where we want to go. here's the road map in order to get there. And the last thing I'll say, I know I just used a whole bunch of marketing jargon, right? So, the best way to think about this is our methodology is start, stop, continue. Right? So, what do we need to start doing that we're not doing? What do we need to continue doing that we're doing well? What do we need to stop doing that's not helping us at all? And with that, I'll hand it over to you guys. Do you have specific questions for us or is this just about the scope of the work? Um, this is about the scope of the work. So, if council has any specific questions about what you see in the packet, now would be an appropriate time to ask. Um we will be um after our initial kickoff meeting tomorrow um be reaching out likely through a call to um get you scheduled for a virtual one-on-one meeting with the project team.
Council member Noiki. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Thank you all for being here tonight. Um as I'm kind of looking through this, um I notice in purple or pink, I believe. Um, I'm just wondering, North Glenn has uh, you know, about 35% Spanish Hispanic, uh, community. Uh, I'm kind of wondering, I don't know if this is grayed out because we're not doing this or if that's kind of an add-on thing. Kind of wondering what's being done to kind of engage those communities.
Yeah. So, everybody will be able to take the community survey that'll be posted on social media. However, as an add-on, in order to engage even, you know, more fully with both the Spanish speaking community and PashTO speaking, we do have add-ons here. So, um, we can add on focus groups where there will be moderators who speak Spanish or Pashto depending on do you want to speak to both groups, one or the other, but we can do that. Um, we can also have uh assessment surveys that are in their languages. So, that's an add-on as well. So, um that doesn't need to be decided on tonight, but it's out there and it's optional.
Okay. Yeah. I think whatever we can do to kind of engage those communities, uh I I don't want to disrespect the PTSD community, but I I know we have a pretty predominant Spanish community, Hispanic community. So, whatever we can do to kind of engage them and make sure that that voice is included as well. I understand sometimes money can be an issue, but I think that's important. Council member Burns.
Thank you, Madam Mayor. I just want to say thank you all. It's nice to see you again. Thank you for being here. Um I think this looks great. It's very aligned. Um, and if anyone's wondering just like from a subcommittee perspective, um, we really enjoyed Joy Ride sort of blending of private sector and modern marketing takes with their, um, working with Rick to bring sort of that city element in in that lens, which was very unique and which we really enjoyed. Um, we enjoyed a bunch of other things too, like don't get me wrong. Um, but if anyone has any questions for the subcommittee as well, like please let us know, I guess, because I don't think anyone asked us anything. Um, thanks guys. Very excited to get started.
Mayor Pro.
Thank you, Madame Mayor. Thanks again for being here. Good to see you all again. Um, just kind of want to piggyback off of what Council Member Burn said. I think this group is going to be fantastic for the city. they really understand, you know, what we need in terms of brand identity, which is something that's come up over and over again. And, you know, how do we how do we say who we are? And I I think that's why they rose to the top is that they really uh grasp that they really listen to us and yeah, there were 35 candidates. So, um just want to say that I think this is going to be a really good assessment and the timing is great, too, with bringing on a new uh communications director. So, um if there are any questions, yeah, we're here for that. But I think this is going to be really well done. Thank you,
Council Member Condo. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um, ditto what my two uh subcommittee members uh just mentioned to you all. And I I did want to just make sure uh and maybe this is more of a question for our city manager. We we had a conversation and study session about the banner policy. So, I'm wondering if that is going to be in scope or integrated in some shape or form.
The banner policy is coming back to council on March 23rd in order to So, I've drafted an outline of a banner policy based on council direction last meeting that will come to council prior to um and and we'll receive direction from council. I'm anticipating I should preface it with that. Um, however, this work with the city brand will definitely and is intended to influence where we go in the future. So, the immediate 250150 banners are set with design based on council support and feedback. Um, but banners moving forward will be influenced by this work as well as entryway signage.
Okay, gotcha. Thank you. Appreciate that, Council Member Severs. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, uh, so I guess I don't understand, uh, we, this is being brought up because you have, uh, ability to do this under 75,000 without our consulting. So, is it because the add-ons could take it over 73 or 75,000 that this needs? I get I'm trying to educate myself, I guess.
Yeah, that's a great question, Council Member Severs. Um, first and foremost, this um project is not budgeted. Secondly, I advance this project based on consistent feedback from council that we need to pivot. And so, it's critically important that I have your buyin and participation in this process in order for this project to be successful. And I'll just say that finally uh that when I was running around trying to talk to people trying to get elected, I did hear a lot about a lot of complaints about purchase services. So as we do not have a comm's director currently uh and we're going through a transition. I want people to know that it's still on my mind, but we don't have a comm's director. So naturally we need and it's a great time to bring on them while a com director comes in and starts to understand. Second,
if I could, mayor, I'd just add one more thing to follow what you shared, council member Severs. I have spoken with both candidates um for the director of communications position and they're fully aware of this process and um what it means in terms of alignment with the timing of the hiring process. Council member Noiki. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, couple of questions I I suppose I have to ask just for the sake of everyone's here. If it's not budgeted, where will the money potentially come from?
And great question, Council Member Noiki. It'll come from the general fund, the communications department budget. Um, we'll capture this as an amendment um at a future date. Okay. And since I'm looking at you're asking us to vote on the 73,000 to kind of go back as I'm looking at uh the the pink portion that's not included. Those services are not included. Correct. Those are add-ons. So certainly if council feels strongly about any or one of the add-ons, you can make a motion to amend the contract approval amount with the respective add-on.
Okay. Then I would like to make a motion to amend the uh the add-on with adding on non-English focus groups uh particularly Spanish.
I'll second.
So can I ask a clarifying question on that? I just want to make sure I'm looking because there's two there's translation of a survey and then there's adding on a focus group. And I I sort of have to echo uh council members Sever because I also do not love that we hire consultants all the time and sometimes it works out and sometimes it feels like a waste of money and we're disappointed. So, not that that will be the case here, but adding $9,000 when we just had a or $10,000 um at the already increased scope of 73 cuz I didn't expect this to come back as expensive as it is. That was a a much higher number. I do understand that the number increased because we're increasing the amount of people that have input the stakeholder interviews. Um, and to kind of go back a little bit, council member Severs, I do feel that these are separate things. So, even if we had a communications director, we still put this forward as a need. And it's because we have very inconsistent um calms across the city and it's it's been a a sticking point. It's been a struggle for communication with our residents. It's been a topic of conversation for a bit that we need to do something. So I do believe this assessment is necessary. I'm concerned about the high cost. And so, while I want to be inclusive, I'm also concerned about adding thousands of dollars. Like, if a translation of a survey could be done in-house, I'm not quite sure why it's $4,000 to translate a survey into Spanish. I'm guessing it's also the translation back.
Um, that just seems like a really high price tag. and then to add $9,000 or 10. Um, I don't know. I'm just I'm cons I'm concerned about just adding on because it's already more expensive than I was hoping. Council member Burns.
Thank you, Madam Mayor. Yes. And I wanted to get clar clarity around um council member Noiki's question because would you like the survey because a focus group is much a much more intensive process um or would you just like because and we're also not doing a focus group in English for our English speakers. So I think the proposition of translating the survey into our other native languages is a better option. Um because again focus groups are very intensive work. Um as and just and for historical historical reference we don't we do okay with survey data sometimes from our residents. Getting people to show up for a focus group we've seen is much more challenging. Um so also probably hence higher price tags. Um, but I I I would suggest if we would like to focus on our non-English-speaking populations that we focus on just survey because that's what we'll be doing for English speakers as well.
And I would agree with that. I think that's a great uh distinction and I would agree with that.
Council member Lighty. Okay. to add to both of those things. I I may be reading this wrong and that could totally be me. In the packet, it says on page six that we're identifying or where did it say I just had it and then I scrolled. I'm so sorry. Um, okay. It says we're identifying the gaps in messaging, consistency, accessibility, and reach. But then to it, we have to add on to add the accessibility for the language piece. I think that's where I'm a little confused. I would I would just like some clarification around that.
So, page six. Sorry, there were multiple page numbers going on here because there's the ones at the bottom and these other ones. I think I have you now. Okay. So, um, you're asking why
like what if we're going to identify the gap doesn't see an accessibility ADA language in reach is it? Yeah. So like if we're identifying the gap, why is that not something that then would just like fall under that same scope and then you would in regards to the translation? Is that what you're asking about? I mean, yeah, just like across the board,
the translation is an add-on because it has to do with, so if we're talking about the community survey that you just brought up, so part of it, and I'll explain, um, when we translate, right, it's not like, yes, it it would be very cheap to just do Google Translate and say, "They wrote this thing in English, you know, here. How do we say that in Spanish?" Um, as you would probably guess, that's not best practice. Um, Spanish speaking community probably wouldn't. They they would see through it, I'm sure, because it comes out messy. Um, what we look for is what are the idioms that make sense in Spanish that don't make sense in English, right? Because the way that we may ask a question in English, if asked as a pure trans translation in Spanish, may not just be idiomatically the way that your particular Spanish community members speak. That's another thing, right? Spanish is spoken by a lot of the world. And so the way people speak it here not necessarily the same as there something we take into account but it's also the fact that we are and this is in the first bullet there survey coding and programming right so there's just backend work that goes into this too because it's a different survey than the English one so that's why it's an add-on it's just it's like a matter of time attention that kind of So, our current website seems to be um compliant at least with state law and so we can change the language of our current website. Um I guess I I a sticking point for me is $4,600 for a translation. I feel like it's necessary to be inclusive. I'm just
really surprised it's that expensive. So, I don't know. Um I do feel like we do need to nitpick a little bit these pennies and not just say yes, we're doing this. Um it's a big scope of work and I guess it's just best practice to translate. So, the fact that it's even an add-on is surprising to me. Is that consistent with all the other companies that the committee looked at? Like they all have translation as an add-on?
Yeah. Um. Yes. And one of the reasons we went with Joyide as well is because they had included interviewing like the interviews and stuff all in the upfront costs because whenever you we saw we were comparing prices a lot of the applicants had interviews with us as you know 20k add-ons survey data even more like just like everything was an add-on so everything the price was pretty blanketed the same across the way and I think Um, when we talk about surveys like this, it's more than a survey monkey, like for a statistical analysis. Um,
and to speak to Council Member Lighty's question to switch my hats a little bit. So understanding you when we're going through this process understanding that like we can have a finding that we don't do enough in Spanish without reaching out to that community right so like the gap analysis is to that is to then find that gap and then like we can probably see like surface level you know we don't do enough translation like we are missing xyz like we do should we do our Facebook posts in Spanish as well right and I think we can easily find like that's what a gap analysis is right and then so then from that they will present us with solutions and would it be even more helpful to hear from the communities in those languages as well like what else is missing yes but I think like at a surface level even we know like where we're missing that kind of information where we have been missing that kind of information um so that is the difference of like identifying the gaps and then like problem solving Does that make sense? Yes. Okay, great.
I love your multiple hats. Thank you so much. Mayor Prom, that was just well said, Council Member Burns. Um, to add on to that too, again, this is an assessment, right, to identify those gaps. I don't want to repeat everything you said. Um, and we will be hiring a comm's director, and I assume that a lot of that will then be taken over. I mean, that's the whole point is to get somebody or to get it set up so that this continue, right? I forgot the the three things that you said you do. Oh, start, stop, continue. Yeah,
start, stop, continue. So, that'll be that continue portion, I think. And um you know, and maybe that's where we do more of that in-house to the mayor's point of like sending out creating more surveys and getting more grassroots involvement and whatnot. But again, I don't want to repeat what council member Burns because she said it so perfectly, but that's what that stop gap analysis should be. So, I hope that makes sense. It does. The other thing I had a question about was um did the committee look at any local agencies? Yes, we did. Yes, we did.
Okay. Because the cost of travel is built into this as well, which is frustrating. Um it's understandable. It's just if if we had selected a local agency that wouldn't have been in there. Um I'm looking there's two things. There's the scope of work that's like got pink all the way through it and then there's the out of scope services and hard costs. Um and they seem to not be the same or like one is a little more detailed than the other. I'm it doesn't seem to be called out as specifically uh with the social media component and I'm assuming the committee talked about that that that's a clear focus because I know council member Burns has a lot of concerns about we have you know 8 million Facebook pages in the city. Um, and I'm really hoping that we take a look at not only the city's Facebook page, but also all of our police department coms as well. Is that all of those are going to be included?
Yes, we'll be looking at social media. So when we talk about um those co those costs that are not already baked in, right? Those hard costs, that's like stuff that is currently just outside of the box. So that would be if you said, "Hey, we want you guys to take over our social media." Okay, we didn't provide a cost for that, right? That would be if we decided that in the middle of this we need to film a video and get a production crew out here and everything. We didn't account for that. So um the others that you're talking about those are the optional add-ons that we have spoken about like you know well what if we did patch this kind of thing that we wanted to call your attention to but those other hard costs are just things that right now we're just saying hey if this comes up we have to discuss that separately that's all that is and yes we will be looking at social media
okay mayor specifically if you look on page six of 23 it's one two three four, five, six, seven. It's the eighth bullet up from the bottom where we have identified best practices in government communications, branding and digital engagement that's intended to capture the um social media. I just want to make sure it cap it captures all departments and not just the main one, but also the police department and any other forward-f facing city connected social media.
Absolutely. And as I've shared with council previously, um as part of this transition, I set up an internal marketing made up of all the different stakeholders that you see that'll be engaged through this process. um they all are under the understanding that um everything's being looked at, everything is on the table and I have already shared that we do have too many social media pages and by the end of this process we will not have that same number. So staff's fully aware of that and and prepared and understanding that there's going to have to um be some decisions made along the way. not only being open to feedback um and guidance from Joy Riot, but also based on um decisions given our centralized and yet decentralized approach or structure that we have. Some of that is probably going to look different by the end of this based on the recommendation. So, we I initiated those discussions and have been preparing staff along the way
and I'm assuming that all of this information and and likely the interviews will bring this out, but that it will all be sort of filtered through our core values as a city to make sure that we're in alignment. Okay. Mayor Prom.
Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um just want to add to I mean we interviewed for what eight hours that day. It was a very long day and um I believe me when I say we asked all the questions and especially relating to like what we want to see what we feel is is missing in our community. Um but I think um city manager guy addressed it that in terms of the police oh sorry I'm trying to scroll here in terms of the police department trying to scroll a non-touchcreen um they're the second I think second group of stakeholders uh that was super important as well but in to answer the question and it's a really it's a valid one because we had to really buckle down and and think about it as well hiring local versus outside local we understand that um but as was mentioned you know sometimes we do these surveys days and then or these uh you know hire consultants and then we don't really implement or we're not happy with the result. So that was something we were really trying to weigh in in terms of uh local communication strategists versus non-local and they just kept coming out on on top in terms of the types of questions that we answered and we did we did or asked I should say we asked lots of questions. You know council member Burns being our resident expert um had all the the techy questions. Um, so I just want to say, you know, it is what it is, but that was definitely something we considered and we struggled with, but they came out on top regardless even, you know, and then the add-ons to it kind of would have balanced itself out in some way. So,
Council Member Burns,
thank you, Madam Mayor. Mayor Prom, same brain. I was going to say like, you know, we weighed heavily on this choice. Um, and I just for like the public's clarity, the purpose of this is to help assess internal structure as well as brand identity and just make sure that we are modernizing the city in a way that is, you know, I say this all the time, but future proofing, right? And it's about attracting new business. It's about what is what is the best for the city that we're not we're attracting residents businesses. People want to spend their time and money here. And a lot of that has to do with marketing and branding. Um, and that is so important and so crucial to the future of this city and our economic development. Um, and that is part of the reason why we went with Joyette. And also this is this is an assessment that is then again like it it's 16 weeks and we made a very clear distinction of that in our RFP that this is a short-term project which then the internal team can grow and iterate on and learn. So this is a learning moment for then the city to continue to grow from and iterate on internally. Thank you. So going back to the final recommendation, I trust the committee. I thank you for your work. Um and I'm cautiously optimistic that this is going to be um an assessment that's going to give us positive results that'll help us move forward. Um, I will say I I heard the recommendation for the additional 4,600 for the translation. I'm very disappointed that it's an add-on. I just don't think that's best practice in business. Um, it's going to cost us $4,600 to do I think what's best for a community that is 38% uh Spanish speaking. So, or at least Hispanic. Um, I that doesn't make me happy, but I support council member Noiki's
recommendation that we added on. Can I make a suggestion, Mayor?
Excuse me. So, what I can do in light of your feedback, and if other members of council feel the same way, I can relook at the scope, add the add-on in, and then I'll likely need to reduce say one um possibly one um travel touch point and um I can probably combine a couple of the stakeholder groups. So, all all that to say, I will rework um the scope as presented tonight to include the add-on and again keeping the do not to exceed the amount that's in the memorandum if you want to go um forward that way. I think my feedback is more about business practice. I wish it wasn't an add-on to begin with. I think it's important to us and we need to hold true to that value. And so if council wants to spend an additional 4,600, we certainly can. I just think it's disappointing that we have to. It's all I'm saying.
Understood. But question for you if I think my hand was just still up. What? Oh, it was still up. Okay. So, is everyone okay adding the cost?
So, it goes from 73 to Do we need to have a motion to increase that? Change the motion on the resolution? What I'm hearing is I mean I still think you have a disc a decision to be made between what count what uh city manager guy recommended and doing it as a true add-on. If it's a true add-on then coun then council member Noiki's motion was appropriate. Do you want to make a motion for an additional amount?
Um, I'm I'll just make a motion for the additional amount in the amount of $4600. Uh, taking the total up to $77,712. Second the motion. So then you're voting on the amendment first, which is the additional the add-on.
So the motion on the floor is the amendment. Council member Burns. Sorry, we are just ignoring City Manager Guyire's option of folding it in. Unless you want to also recommend that now. I was just going with council member Noiki's motion. I mean, if if we want to save the $4,600, we can go back to the 73 with city manager Guyire's option. Is that correct? Yeah, those are the choices. That's why then why can't we do that? Why? I'm cool with that. We certainly can. Yeah.
I I think I think less stakeholder interviews is completely fine. I'm totally fine buddying up on council. Like I think like we can do that to reduce some meetings as well, right team?
Well, perhaps a one visit could be virtual instead of travel costs. I don't know how many were built in. Council member Lighty, you have your hand up. Yeah, I just wanted I was going to say I was hoping to kind of circle back to what you had mentioned about folding it in. Um, and I would be happy to buddy up with you. don't I'm as someone that's brand new, I also don't really know if I would like to have my own stakeholder one-on-one interview when I have no idea what I'm supposed to be talking about. So, I think it would be awesome to be paired up with my senior member. Um, so it is there do we need to make an amendment there or are we good? Yes. So
I So I just want to assure you. So um I'm with what city manager guy said we can find a way to fold it in. Um that doesn't have to be figured out now. We would love to hear your opinions and I will say as far as best practices go. It helps if it's one-on-one just you know people just share what's on their mind and so but regardless we can find a way to fold this in one way or another. So okay so we're going to fold it in. We're going to do the add-on and the motion stands as the full cost. Yeah. So, Council Member Noiki can withdraw his motion.
I withdraw my motion. We're going to stick with the 73112 is now on the table. Please open the vote. The vote is open. Council member Goff, how do you vote? Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Goff, for sticking with us. I will close that vote and CR46 passes unanimously. Thank you. Thank you.
CR54. Will the clerk please read the title? A resolution approving an agricultural lease agreement between the city of North Glenn and Matthew Holstrm for the use of approximately 210 acres of city-owned property located adjacent to the North Glenn wastewater treatment plant for agricultural purposes. Motion to approve. Second. Director of public works Sarah Sarah Borders is here to provide a summary. Good evening.
Good evening Mayor and City Council. It's lovely to be with you tonight. Uh this is a an interesting resolution, not one we do very often. Uh this is uh to do an agricultural lease with a farmer. Uh he's been on this property for quite some time. Um there's about 210 acres in the vicinity of the wastewater plant up in section 36. And he farms that land and there's a few reasons that's good for us and also good for him. Um it's good for us just because he continues to maintain that property in a good working order. We're also able to land apply bioolids from the wastewater plant. Uh you apply the bioolids, the plants take up the nutrients, primarily nitrogen and phosphorus. Um and it's just a environmentally friendly way of getting rid of bioolids. Um this year we may not be able to use the fields that much because we need the plants to take up a little bit more nutrients before. So you will still see um uh later on you'll see a uh agreement to do a bioolids removal project from the plant uh from um the facilities around the plant. Um so this won't be all but that facility with these farms we can get rid of the bioolids maintain our property. Uh we do give the farmer some water as a part of this and in return he also gives us 10% of revenue. I'm happy to answer questions.
Council member Condo. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh I know that uh we have the sewer line connection project that's going on to allow for North Metro to connect to the sewer treatment plant. And my understanding is in the process of running across that, we kind of discovered some of the feeder lines. I'm assuming those lines that we discovered are indeed the way that we provide the water to the farmer. Yes, sir. Yeah, there are 14inch water lines that go to a pond and that pond is what feeds their center pivot.
Okay. And I I also understand that those lines weren't exactly well documented. So, I'm I'm just wanting to know if in the future we will know where those lines are. We do know exactly where they are now.
Yeah. Um, and we do have upcoming projects to do work up at the wastewater plant. And some of that work is going to be uh to identify all of the underground infrastructure. You can imagine there's quite a bit of underground piping um going between all the different facilities on that site and it gets complicated and some of it is quite old. Um, and so part of that project will be to identify where all that infrastructure is so that we don't run into the same problem again.
Gotcha. Well, I I I do appreciate and I'm not speaking on behalf of North Metro. I'll just say that in in our last board meeting. Um North Glenn was very accommodating when we did discover these lines and um I want to thank you for being so flexible and understanding. Thank you. Metro is a good partner. Council member Burns.
Thank you, Madam Mayor. I just want to say this is pretty cool. This is like a cool thing. Like it's like a like I think it's like pretty like it's innovative. It's like communitydriven and like community first and like I don't know. I'm like obsessed with this. So I love it. Thank you. That's it. Agreed. Please open the vote. The vote is open. Please vote. Council member Goff, how do you vote? Yes. Thank you. I will close that vote and CR54 passes unanimously. CR55. Will the clerk please read the title?
A resolution approving an agreement between the city of North Glenn and Just Beu Incorporated doing business as Star Playgrounds for the Danahe Park renovation project. Move for approval. Seconded. Recreation project manager. Hello. Jesse Mestravic will provide a summary of this item.
Good evening, mayor, city council, constituents. Um, this project is a renovation of Dan Haye Park. Um that consists of a brand new playground, new porn play safety surfacing, um the shelter replacement, all the site amenities which includes picnic tables, benches, trash cans. Um this playground was installed in 2012. So our our typical life cycle is about 15 years. So it's approaching that. Um this playground is showing significant wear, especially in the poor and place surface area. Um the shelter is about about uh four four decades old. So a little bit older than me. So that's pretty pretty old and needs to be replaced. Um we had uh community community members uh had the opportunity to weigh in on six different playground options. Um they unanimously chose this playground. Pretty excited about that. Um this this playground consists of shade swings, multiple slides, and a really tall playground tower. So it'll be a new unique amenity there. Um we utilize cooperative purchasing u process. Um through the vendor procurement process we identified uh star playgrounds as the the right vendor based on pricing qualifications and their approach. Um this playground cost $900,000 and $600,000 that came from the Adams County Open Space Sales Tax Grant. Um and I'm happy to answer any questions. Council member Lighty,
thank you. Um, thank you so much for bringing this forward. Um, I was just looking and it says in like the little background section um that you will be improving the accessibility. Is this playground accessible to individuals in wheelchairs? So, it doesn't have a ramp. However, there is um transfer areas where people can transfer onto them and and experience the playground themselves. um the safety surfacing instead of having the engineered wood fiber mulch um you can roll right on it. You can be able to transfer quite easily. Um donut it doesn't have the ramps because those really cost a lot of money. Um so this was this the route that we uh we we chose. What about a swing? Oh yeah, there'll be swings.
Wait, no, like an accessible swing. Um not like Evie Reigns. Okay, Mayor Proip.
Thank you, Madame Mayor. Uh, thank you for bringing this forward as a W four representative. I don't want to put words in Council Member Roer's mouth, but this playground really needed it. And it is such an activated playground. Every time I drive by, there's tons of kids always out there, families using um all of the things there. So, I'm kind of glad that the community chose this playground because it really needed it. Um, and it's well used and it just needs some TLC. So, glad to hear that's happening. Thank you. A new playground is always a wonderful thing, right? It's hard to not get excited about that. I do however appreciate Council Member Lighty's question and I I'm wondering if we have a I'm looking past you um at Amanda because I'm wondering if we have like a long-term vision perhaps of having fully ADA accessible play in each ward. So having it in one location is great, but I think having it, you know, we talk about having walkable parks, um but to have more than one, I think would be awesome.
Yes. So good evening mayor and council. Amanda Peterson, director of parks, recreation and culture. So the playground that has been selected is fully ADA compliant. What it does not have as council member Leidy was referring us to is some additional elements like we have at Sensory Playground that allow for a transfer without exiting a chair. Um and some additional play features like a swing. So we would love to be able to do that as we move forward. we have that as a priority in the in playbook to assess ADA compliance and be able to exceed that at our park spaces. So, that is definitely a consideration as we move forward. Um, and Jesse can certainly look at whether or not we can there's some tricks with be able to fit a um ADA compliant swing in a bay with other swings. You can only have one type per bay and we have a constrained area that we're working with on this particular park space. We are not disrupting the perimeter of the playground. So, we needed to have designs that all fit within that existing perimeter. But, we can still look at that swing and see if there's any opportunity still to add an additional ADA element. Um, as I said, in addition to what is there and meeting at a minimum the compliance regulation. Yeah, I had no doubt that it was compliant. I think it's, you know, accessible and enjoyable is is a different thing and so knowing that it's in the playbook is is a good step forward.
Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for bringing it forward. Please open the vote. The vote is open. Please vote. Council member Goth, how do you vote? Yes. Thank you. I will close that vote and CR55 passes unanimously. CR57. Will the clerk please read the title? A resolution approving a memorandum of understanding between the city of North Glenn and Excel Energy for the phase 2 plan implementation of the beneficial electrification roadmap through the partners in energy program.
Motion to approve. Second. Well, we'd like to welcome our sustainability coordinator, Mara Owen. Hello,
Mayor Council. Glad to be here tonight. Um, yeah, it's just been a good meeting so far. We hadn't gotten a lot done. Um, I am here to essentially present the CR57, which is again looking at theou with partners in energy. We've worked with XL Energy Partners in Energy before on both an energy action plan, an EV action plan. Um we are now working under phase well hopefully we'll be working under phase two of a beneficial electrification plan. Um we actually back in August of 2025 brought with you brought forward to you uh phase one which is looking at a beneficial electrification plan implementing our climate action and resilience plan. So that plan looked at a lot of different uh strategies. Several of them were looking at beneficial electrification. And so we said, where is their existing dollars, existing support to be able to make this happen knowing that we are trying to make things work under budgets? And so partners and energy was a really amazing program, still is. Um, and finish that. So you'll see in attachment one, we actually have a fully done city beneficial electrification roadmap, which very clearly points out how it is implementing our uh climate action resilience plan. This is the process. Um this is the result of a process that went through several different um community engagement processes um especially with partners including uh Adam's 52 Adams schools Adams fivestar anyway I'm working on that it's too many different pieces together um and including a lot of people um from a lot of our other partners including Adams County itself um we are actually having nine different strategies organized into four focus areas so it's in residential commercial in institutional and industrial municipal and then workforce development. All of those pieces work together um to actually allow us to again implement many of those strategies that we already existed we already put in the existing climate action resilience plan. Um theou for this is actually working on phase two which is the more exciting part which is implementation. So we focused many of
the beneficial electrification plans that have happened are more plan focused. This is more implementation focused. So, we spent all of our um not all of our but much of our uh time looking at how this could be really clearly implemented. Um and so from April 2020 or 20 26 through u March 31st of 2027, we'll be spending the next 12 months if you approve this uh phase 2 to actually implement the things that we put out here. Um, and that's really exciting because it actually allows us, if you look at, um, the page 46 of the council resolution, significant process on our climate action and resilience goals, um, quantifiable, they'll actually be giving us a lot of the, um, this is how much you have saved in both, um, greenhouse gas emissions as well as some of our resilience benefits. This is exciting work to be able to actually say we're implementing a plan that we put in place not only just last year in April. So, um, this is exciting. Let me know if you have any questions and otherwise I will be here.
Council member Condo. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Thank you for uh this initiative as well as many others. And um you know I'm really delighted that uh Miss Owens is really on our staff doing a lot of great value creation in the area of sustainability. You're nodding your head.
But I can tell you that there is a lot of work that goes on in background and not only is she doing it for the city of North Glenn but she also does it for Dr. COG, which is an organization that represents 59 municipalities and counties. And so you played a key role obviously for the EPA grant. I know you're going to deny it, but I I know otherwise. And so definitely the work that you're doing here to try and try and push the city forward to uh transitioning to more renewables and doing it in a way where we're collecting data and and having some metrics around that I think is really uh admirable and uh I just want to say keep up the good work. Thank you.
I think that's it. Thank you so much. Please open the vote. The vote is open. Council member Goth, how do you vote? Yes. Thank you. I will close that vote. And CR57 passes unanimously.
CR58. Will the clerk please read the title? A resolution affirming the city's commitment to compliance with federal anti-discrimination laws. Motion to approve. Seconded. City Attorney Corey Hoffman will provide a summary of this item.
Good evening, Madame Mayor, members of council. Um there has been a lot of discussion citywide, statewide, and nationwide about what um DEI means relative to um grant applications at the federal level. And the federal government has made it abundantly clear that one of the requirements for grant eligibility and grant compliance is that the that a grant recipient not have a DEI program that operates to discriminate um in hiring practices in violation of the federal civil rights laws. And so this resolution is intended to clarify um how North Glenn implements DEI as part of its strategic plan, as part of its internal policies, and confirms that it does so in a manner that does not um violate federal non-discrimination laws.
Any questions? Nope. Thank you. Please open the vote. The vote is open. Please vote. Council member Goff, how do you vote? Yes. Thank you. I will close that vote. And CR58 passes unanimously. CR59. Will the clerk please read the title? A resolution appointing an independent hearing officer for the city of North Glenn for ethics complaints. Move for approval. Second. Thanks.
City attorney Hoffman will provide a summary of this item.
So, in 2007, the city of North Glenn adopted a code of ethics. That code of ethics requires that the city appoint an independent hearing officer if it ever receives an ethics complaint. and the city has received an ethics complaint which triggers the um appointment of an independent hearing officer. That hearing officer uh can make a determination related to that ethics complaint and if it requires action beyond the independent hearing officer's determination um that hearing officer would exercise his or her discretion to do so. So this simply appoints the hearing officer that is contemplated by the ordinance that was adopted in 2007 that is necessary for the first time and um the recommendation is to appoint Jeff Wilson. He is a former uh he is formerly the attorney for the Colorado Municipal League. Um currently is in private practice um does not have any other affiliation with North Glenn and so would truly be an independent hearing officer. Any questions from council?
Okay, please open the vote. The vote is open. Please vote. Council member Goff, how do you vote? Yes. Thank you. I will close that vote and CR59 passes unanimously. Thank you. We have a discussion item tonight. Vera Mobility automated speed traffic enforcement cameras. Deputy Chief of Police Peter Rice will present this item to council. Good evening.
Good evening. Good evening, Mayor Council. This is Alex from Ver Mobility. So, uh, she flew out from Arizona today so that by the off chance I can't answer any questions in the weeds on speed enforcement cameras. She's the guru. um as this is her neck of the woods uh along with uh the the 16 other municipalities that currently have uh her company's services. So everybody, this is Alex. Hello.
Good evening. All right, so for those that weren't on uh council and we we'll recap to uh kind of how we got here. So, former deputy chief of police uh Randy Darlin uh presented last May um uh on automated traffic uh speed enforcement and we sent it out uh for an RFP uh which uh closed uh just short after uh the 4th of July and three companies put in. We uh did a staff uh analysis of the different companies and in about mid August uh we decided to go with uh var mobility for a multitude of reasons. mainly the um cost uh not occurring any from uh us from the city side uh and their ability to have an excuse me an all-inclusive package uh from from the ticket through the court system for them to manage everything for them to have the the bridge um to uh communicate with uh the violator uh and with as far as the the funds from the financial aspect, they were all inclusive. They'll do the the the construction, the buildout, their responsiveness. They've been uh great so far um in their communicate uh their ability to communicate with us and like I said uh the numerous municipalities that are already utilizing their services in the state uh have sung their praises. We reached out to uh numerous agencies to get feedback
um on how it's working for them, some potential pitfalls uh and things of that. So, that's kind of how we got to here. Um, uh, I reached out to, uh, Alex to to follow up, uh, in late fall. Uh, we we received, uh, the contract and then, uh, I started working with, uh, the city attorney, uh, Hoffman as far as timelines to, to get us to here. Now back uh when when this was first initiated, we did five uh speed studies and trying to figure out, you know, where uh the community impact, where would it be most beneficial, what was the the rationale behind uh the the the different locations in which we used those being both directions uh 120th, 112th, 104th U melody and uh what is that? 112th 14th uh sorry I'm losing my 120th 104th oh Irma sorry um and I added we did another one uh recently to refresh it which is in your packet uh I added Hiron now reason for those locations um it has to do with the the public safety piece right and where those arteries go and mainly due to traffic as accidents uh and the the speeds right so if we we well let's take 104th as an example the speeds coming into the city and which is reason why I also added uh I wanted to take a look at the data on Hiron our highest traffic accident
location historically and still continues to be 104th in Hiron and if you look at the the data coming into the city eastbound. Um that's our our biggest violator area, right? So I want to slow people down coming into the city. Uh and another one of our uh major areas uh is on 112th, right? And and there you're talking about uh a roadway that goes right if you if you're traveling eastbound, right? the the road narrows from two lanes to one. Uh we've had uh some some incidents there with the pedestrian walkway and then going into uh Irma, not to mention the the fact that we have our middle school uh just to the south there off of Larsen. Right. So the method to the madness as far as why these locations is they're on our main arteries. Uh they're our most uh highly traveled. Uh the speeds uh are greater and they flow into uh hightra uh accident areas which in turn will free up um officers. We we wanted to there there's value to having officers present. When you look at the amount of schools that we have um inside the city, uh there is having uh the police interact with the public in the schools, enforcing school zones, whether it's crosswalks and that there's a value to that and we didn't want to to take that away um from those uh coupled then with uh safety sensitive zones. So when you take a look at the real estate and the footprint that all
of the schools, the school zones and the uh safety sensitive zones impact um it it starts to narrow down uh the major arteries and and thorough affairs. Additionally, if you look at Melody, right, historically one of our larger traffic complaint areas, and the reason why that's shaded in red, um, is it it doesn't meet the threshold to uh to get over the $2,500. So it it would cost the city money if you were to have fixed um radar on that. So that's where that that comes from. Not saying we've abolished speeding on Melody by any means or or or any of the arteries in in the city, but that was the reason why those main roadways were chosen first. um as this will be uh kind of an evolution in in progress here. Um Corey has worked on uh the compliance with the ordinances. With that being said, I'll I'll touch on this slightly and then we'll go back to it when uh when we wrap up as far as the decisions and next steps. There is lots as you alluded to alert alluded to earlier. There's lots of legislation that also not only cameras um affects uh traffic enforcement uh automated speed cameras as well that is currently uh in legislation too that can impact uh this discussion that was that was brought forward. the as I as I talked about cost
um Vera Mobility manages everything uh once we uh get over the threshold of the $2500 and they'll do all the installation uh maintenance uh someone drives their car through the sign or through the cameras or or whatever it might be uh they come out and they replace uh the infrastructure for So these were the the locations that uh we discussed as staff uh that we are asking to push or we're recommending to uh push forward at this time. So we understand as the the community why isn't it in my street? Why is it in my neighborhood? Um the the rationale behind these one is as I I previously mentioned on 104th uh the volume is massive um and it's to meant to to slow people down and and try to uh lessen uh the amount of traffic accidents that we're having at 104 uh and here on the data from our traffic studies over the last two years we've decreased traffic accidents 11% in the city which is huge but we've also increased uh the issuance of uh traffic related motor offenses by 57%. Right? that you can make a correlation that the more that we're out there, the more that we're enforcing, we're slowing folks down um and and we're getting compliance the and then with 112th those three cameras. So, it's we're doing east west
um on 104th and then eastbound on 112th. And if you look at the numbers uh on the Excel spreadsheet and you look at the volume, that is why we want to right now we we want to just take this uh kind of one bite at a time and evaluate this and take some time and evaluate it because once we implement the systems, they're going to run and they're going to run 24/7 and the the sheer volume of those um those three cameras uh could potentially be a very heavy lift for staff. So, we don't want to get the carp before the horse and put cameras at locations that we can't keep up with the volume, excuse me, of uh the of monitoring the computers and monitoring uh all of the summons that are in there because we're not asking for uh supplemental employees, right, to manage this at this time. So we can the the program is fully capable of expanding. Um but these are the three locations that we want to start off with because this program as I've learned over the last several months being involved um affects a great many portions of this city. It's not just the police department. This affects our courts. And as I just said, we we've uh upped our issuance of traffic tickets by 57%. So now you have to add these the volume of traffic uh to the courts. Public works will work with to to pull the permits uh because they have to tap into
power. We have to work with finance. have worked with um Jason and I are trying to figure out what's the best course of action um for the fines and forfeitures uh from that piece and then obviously uh you have to have the police department or at least our plan is right now uh for police department staff to uh log into the system and have to clear uh the hundreds and hundreds of tickets that come in daily uh by that and there's a verifiation process that has to has to take place in that. So that was the the rationale for those locations. Um these were and you could see the the the sheer volume on the three locations that we did and and these were only for three days, right? So those are that's heavy traffic. um uh everything will be at at 10 miles an hour over. Um so you look at 85% of the vehicles are complying with the the 10 miles an hour over against some of that stuff that's statutory written as far as the speeds. Uh but again these are the locations um that we uh have high high volume um in which you want to try to the goal right is to curb the behavior and change it through time and with the uh the data that you have uh that's for a month right in in the Excel spreadsheet and where it says 5% % we uh received data from var mobility uh at 10% as well. So the numbers that I gave
you were intentionally lower um than the high. Right? So we're not um because they have shown over time there is a decrease um and you can correlate it to some of the the the conversations we've had about signage with safety sensitive zones. um and uh slowing traffic down. And they have the the the data that's in there, right, to show that through time uh whether it's typically about the 9 to 12 to 12 month mark, you will see more of the consistent drop uh in in the speeding uh behavior. So the mobile system. Okay. So this is thinking um down the road the if when we want can re-evaluate things after six to nine months. if we can manage the amount of volume of tickets um and and we're doing well and we've worked out the with courts and we've kind of focused on that and and got our way through it. The mobile system can be set in place. Uh variable mobility does all the they do the movement for us. It can go in a location for a month and then we can move it uh to to different portions of the city and we are uh creating a process because we understand that the questions are going to be well who gets it first, what happens next. Um so from a staff
perspective uh in in correlation with you know some of the the the programs that we already have in this in the city with no need for speed and and um things that are our traffic team uh might say that there's an increase here in working with that um the this ability to add this um that that's all it is they'll bring it out. So once we get to it, but again it right now it's just a can we manage it um and then Vera Mobility can add it uh and because it's uh already in the contract uh should we choose to move forward tonight. That allows us a lot of opportunity um to get it to to throughout the city to various um issues that that might come in because multiple things can change traffic patterns whether it's construction in one area or whatever and we're noticing uh an influx uh then then we can deploy it to to different aspects of the city. So, as we said, uh, fair mobility, that's the the cost, um, and $7 a citation. That includes all the the backend stuff, all of the, um, issuance of the ticket, the contacting the registered owner. um uh that that's their fee out of it and then they take the $2,500 uh out of the fines and forfeertures uh that they receive. Now, here's uh a pretty comprehensive list of of what um comes with fair mobility. Now, we understand that cameras right now in the community are
um uh kind of a hot topic and the legislation that's that's down at um at the state, the way that the the ordinance is written right now, the registered owner should my daughter be driving my car and get it and I get the ticket for it, I can upload code my driver's license and then the fine is dismissed. Okay? Because that is the way um that the ordinance is written. One of the legislative bills that is being uh looked at right now is to change that. So regardless, it's the registered owner of the vehicle. Whether you're driving it or not, you're responsible for your car. That's so that could change things. So because of the registered owner piece, it takes a picture from the front and it takes a picture from the rear. So it captures the face um of the driver. We own the data. We do not communicate or or transmit or or share any of the data with any other agency. It only captures speed violators. it does not capture every single uh motor vehicle that passes the cameras. Um and if it if the uh if it is deemed to to not be a match and it's going to be dismissed uh on the retention schedule uh which we will set up uh those will be or can be uh expuned from from the d from the database within 30 days. Okay. So I just want to make that clear especially for the community
that this is not a sharing uh of data. It's not a sharing um uh of faces or pictures. Uh that's is part of the statutory uh how it's written. Um so that if you're not the registered owner uh you can have have it dismissed as it sits here today. Um, but again, it it's currently uh in legislation. Why do um why why do we want this or why would it be extremely beneficial for us? Again, if we can get a lot of the traffic to to slow down coming into uh the city, uh curb the behavior, stop traffic accidents. Right. We've heard two council members talk tonight about traffic accidents and and how it can change folks lives, right? Uh for the the more that we can stop that. Um, I know that we be nice to completely uh get it away uh from people having to deal with it, but it impacts more not only uh physically, mentally um but when folks lose their cars, a lot of times they lose their ability to get to their job and and it just keeps continuing to compound a problem. So, if we can uh enhance uh traffic safety, um it it's huge. And like I said, for this thing will run 24/7, 365. That frees up officers um to be in neighborhoods uh and and work different aspects of the city, especially with the traffic team to uh be where our most vulnerable are, which is the school zones uh with the kids. So that that definitely frees up uh some some resources there.
So, should we choose to move forward tonight, um Corey and I had had spoken earlier, uh we have a couple next steps. Uh we have the the ordinance draft drafted and and we have the contract. Um and in tentatively two weeks uh from today, we we could be back and and and have the first reading uh of the ordinance and and move the contractor or we just delayed another month uh since uh there is so much legislation focused right now uh on camera systems so that we wouldn't have to if if we had to make changes. And Corey, I don't know if you want to to to say anything on that piece, too. Um, just to to since we're so close essentially with the legislative legislative session, um, you know, for the sake of a month, uh, if that's something that you would like to see done, then this way we don't have to come back in and change. And Corey, if you want to add anything to that. The only thing I would add is if council is inclined to do this, um, we don't know what any of the legislation is going to be yet regarding kind of the privacy interest, but we do know there's pending legislation, for example, to expand to allow the expansion of the use of these on I25. Um, right now that's prohibited. So, if council wanted to consider that as part of it, um that's something it can't do today, but I think it's likely that that will get adopted as part of the this legislative session. So really the question is if again the council's inclined to do this does first reading go on March 23rd or do you wait till till for example April 27th in which case second reading would be around the time the legislature finished its work for 2026 and you'd have a little more
certainty that what North Glenn was adopting was not going to be changed by legislation this year. Um and from the bare mobility side um from what they're uh the the portion of removing the uh registered owner piece where the registered owner uh and not needing the photo um seems promising which in turn then for us we wouldn't have to capture uh the forward facing uh and we wouldn't have to capture the driver's face just needing the rear which then instead of $1,500 uh per camera uh it goes down to or 25 it goes down to 1500. So again that's that's certainly out of my hands. Uh that's down in the in the legislation. So that um could change uh as well.
All right, questions should you have any? Council member Condo. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh Miss Alex, welcome to Colorado. Probably feels like Arizona in the winter, which is odd. Uh I I actually lived in Arizona for a number of years and I just remember I think Paradise Valley I I don't know if Farah Mobility has ties to that. I think they started in 1987. Is that correct? That's correct. That's the first program in the country that adopted automated enforcement. Gotcha. Do you also do the red light and speed cameras in Scottsdale now?
Okay, great. Uh, the reason why I'm asking these questions is, well, I haven't had a ticket yet, but I've seen it. But I I do have a few questions. One, um, just kind of looking at the websites for both Paradise Valley and Scottsdale. Are these integrated stoplight and speeding cameras? In other words, no stoplight, speed only. So, we're just talking about a camera that's in between intersections somewhere that's going to catch a speeder
where the locations are that we've identified. So, on 104th, the the cameras will be if the logistics work out with power, it will be in the center median right next to each other catching east and and westbound traffic. Does that make sense? Gotcha. Chad. So it'll be west of Hiron. Okay. Right. So there. Um and then now eastbound 112 uh the the the cameras will have to be uh on the south side of the roadway. Okay. Well, I'm glad you're providing that clarity.
Not red light. Yeah. Not really because I know that at least speaking with some of my former neighbors in Arizona in the valley, you know, there was concerns about having the cameras in an intersection and maybe an increase in rear end accidents and things like that. That's actually a huge reason why we don't want them. Check. Yes. Okay, I'm going to stop on that line of question.
Opposite. Um, but obviously I I think the desire here ultimately is to modify driver behavior. So hopefully they will slow down. I wonder if you have any anecdotes that you might be able to share uh given some systems that you have. It doesn't have to be Arizona, but anywhere.
Madame Mayor, council members, nice to meet you all. So, I've been with Vera Mobility for almost 18 years, probably too long for the same job, but as as long as I've been with the company, uh we're seeing significant reduction in speeding. Uh the reason why um Deputy Chief Rice used that reduction is because nationwide we're seeing between a 90 to 95% reduction in speeding from the survey results to that 9 to 12 month time frame when we consider the system being somewhat mature and stable within a program.
Gotcha. And it it sounds like the deputy rice that you or Alex your company handles the whole thing cradle to grave from when the violation happens the assessment and then mailing the wonderful postcard welcome to Scottsdale. You've exceeded the speed limit.
Correct. and and that that was done um or that that's being done by design to uh assist staff. Uh and a lot of the again the the neighboring agencies that we've communicated with have advised us to do that um because it's efficient. Um they obviously have it down to a science. It's what they do for a living. Um, and especially from the court side of things, uh, just to to make things as streamlined as as possible.
Okay. Gotcha. Thank you. I I have not received a welcome to Scottsdale Postcard, but thank you very much. Really appreciate it. Council member Lighty.
Thank you. Um, okay. So, I made a list and then I felt like you were reading from my list cuz at one point you brought up the middle school and I was like, "Oh, when I was in middle school, the there was a kid that was hit by a speeder on Larson Drive on 112th and Larson Drive and that's when they put that stoplight in." And so, this is kind of just like going all over the place in my brain. Um, and I want to touch back to a thing that I heard the most from residents in that neighborhood specifically. 112th has turned into a racetrack is what they say. They complain that it's a lot like 104th. And I mean living on both of living in between both of those I I understand that. Um and then I was also thinking as this could be a put like this could be a good idea as we have potential for more housing on 112th. And I mean I I'm not a huge fan of the giant roundabout that they just put further down on 112th in Thornton. So, I do think that this is a little bit better than a roundabout that people might crash into. I do have a few questions though, just because you mentioned that this would open up some officer time and then you kind of went back on but the technology might take over officer time. Is there or not officer time, but what who would be managing the system?
Oh, yeah. Well, right now we have and this isn't a permanent solution. Uh our officers that are on light duty, right? That is um that is part of their well it's going to be uh part of their daily job duties. Um again, how many how much time there's there's a lot of this data. Um right. So, we've heard from some of the neighbor if if you speak to Vera Mobility or or the cops that are having to do it to clear a summon meaning right so it's on we we see your face registered owner it matches the license plate boom we hit is between 30 seconds and a and a minute per summons right so when you're just right for basic math sake when you start to get up to 240 summons daily, right? And how many manh hours that's going to take, that's that's why I don't want to get us too far out in front of what it is part of the long-term goal. And, you know, if we have to, there are neighboring agencies that use um for example, uh he's on our CCPP board. uh he's a former chief of police and uh he actually clears tickets um part-time uh for the city of Thornon, right? So, so they have it as well and and so there are long-term things where where it comes to that, but as of right now, it's our we have some light duty folks that are going to be down uh for a while and this will just be worked into because
they have to do they do administrative stuff around the police department all the time. Uh and unfortunately, some of the injuries they they they're going to be out for a while. So, uh, I'm not worried about the the the short-term problem. We we'll be able to manage that and then we'll be able to to reassess and if we, um, have to move something forward where whether it's contractually or or, you know, for part-time uh, to clear it, then we can reassess that down the road.
And then just one more question just because I know that you mentioned it. It is a hot topic of people aren't necessarily wanting to be recorded. Um, but you it's not a stoplight camera, but you kind of connected it to that. So, it would be like when you go through I think there's one in Commerce City. When you if you were to go through a red light and it takes the picture, it I'm assuming they don't send that automatically to a random place like it. My picture is not just going to some random bubble in the world. It's going straight to the police department and then that's when you guys would do the summons and all the clearing and all the fun things like that. Correct. Okay.
And again, Sorry for the confusion. These are not red light cameras. They're not going to be attached to the poles at red light cameras. We're not going to have people looking up in the middle of an intersection distracting them and that and creating more. This is away from from those. It's it's not attached to this, especially the one in 104. Um it it's as you're the next light you will see it will be here on. So the the the goal is to right the the speed limit is only 35 there. Um and when you look at the sheer volume of folks that are doing plenty more than that coming into the city, that's the behavior that we want to try to to curb.
Would that also eliminate the lack of like hiding spots for the officers to get those speeding tickets? I feel like Fox Run there, it's like a it's a racetrack, but you can't hide anywhere on Fox Run Parkway. They'll they'll find some places to to do their stuff. They'll get there. Council member Burns. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Okay. I have a few questions. Okay. So, this is a essentially a subscriptionbased service, correct? Five years, right? Fiveyear contract. Yep.
Okay. So, it's a subscription for 2500 a month plus $7 or I guess 5,000, right? 5,000 a month plus service fees of whatever is that am I reading that correctly three cameras it's 7500 okay plus the so it's 33 um so if if you look at the Excel spreadsheet the number on the far right that's after all of the fees and that's a monthly that's a monthly total after all of the fees and all of the the stuff is taken So, we're losing $2,000. Am I reading this? We're gaining $2,000 a month.
Which one are you on to me? What is this? 2,000. Which one are you on? Uh, attachment two, page 17 of 22, page 17 in our packet. This this giant spreadsheet. You got to really expand the screen to see all the far right where it where it has um city net revenue. City net revenue. That's monthly totals. The only one, the one that's in red is Melody. So, yes, that would be a loss to the city, which is why we're not doing that. We're anticipating making $31,000 on one camera. Okay. Um, thank you.
You're welcome.
Um, I'm not done. Sorry, that was not a that was not a period. That was a semicolon. Um, okay. So, on the Vera Mobility Provide slide 13 of 22, um, I'm very interested in just like the sheer amount of comms on this, like website content, PR, like promotional stuff. Um, obviously I'm thinking about this. um would love to hear more about what that looks like and like how would this then integrate would their services then integrate with our assessment new comm's director like what is the vibe here?
So we statutoily we're going to have to notify the community once we go to this. So uh and there's the the 30-day um warning period. So obviously with in light of the the the previous discussion, how we choose to ultimately push out uh that we're implementing these cameras, we can certainly work with with the city side. They just have it right because they've also had to do it for municipalities all over the country. Um that they have a a team that explains what it is. Certainly in light of today's um discussions, it it says what it's not um with some of the other camerabased systems that are out there, right? To to dispel the the the rumors and and that. But those are things that uh we have discussed as far as when we get close to implementation, what does it look like when we notify the community? uh because there are things that we have to do statutoily to uh notify them and even upon implementation, right? There's a 30 day period where uh you're just going to receive a a warning in the mail uh and then hey, next time this is real. Kind of like what they did on I25 with the um with the hub lanes when you when you cross you you got warnings for a while and then when you go live. So that's part of the the communications. Deputy Chief, if I may um assist Council Member Burns, we talked internally as a staff that we need to develop a robust communication plan, which I think is what you're getting at. So, um foundational to that are the pieces that Deputy Chief Rice just mentioned, but um we need to outline the above and beyond
how we're going to engage and interact with the community. And that's something that we'll bring back at a future council meeting. um if council gives us direction tonight to go ahead and move forward. Okay. Thank you. Thank you both so much. And then my final sort of like wondering um because this is a lot of information and thank you for that but can you describe how data moves between your system and our system after after someone's like picture is taken because I'm a little confused because you say you house everything and you take care of everything, right? That's what we're paying for but then we have all the data. Can you just explain how that's sort of like split? You want to go for it? Absolutely. So the the data is housed by variability. It's a um
you has everybody's photos and everything.
Correct. The f the law enforcement agency logs into the system. So the the hardware the system roadside captures potential evidence of a violation which is pictures and a video. That evidence is securely uploaded into our back office and it is then processed by Vera Mobility depending on the violation criteria that the jurisdiction establishes and then only the evidence that meets that violation criteria is then put in a separate queue for law enforcement to make their final determination on whether they want to issue a speeding citation or not. Once that approval is received from law enforcement, the next step the next steps follow which is printing and mailing the citation um providing customer service for the violators, adjudication module for the court that they can use to schedule hearings and provide the judicial process for every citation. But the data is housed by Vera Mobility. The city owns the data. We will develop a data retention schedule. So for every category of image and video that's captured, the city is going to dictate for how long that data is retained. Once the um data meets that time frame, it is purged from our system. At the end of the program, any data that's still active within our system is given back to the city. The uh system is um used by over 300 communities in the US. It's secure. It passed uh uh sock 2 audits for security and all national standards for security. So and um we have two backup facilities for the storage. So we have one main data center for data storage with two backup uh data storage facilities within a thousand miles apart all within the United States.
Awesome. Thank you. And then so where is is your um home base is your company based out of Arizona or is it headquartered out of Mesa Arizona? Okay. And then so what are your laws around working with federal agencies? So would you follow Colorado laws? So none of the data is shared with anyone because the data only belongs to the jurisdiction. We don't share it with anyone. So even if we had a foyer request or a subpoena, we reach out back to the jurisdiction and we inform the jurisdiction that there has been a request. If we're directed to gather that data, we give it back to the jurisdiction and it's going to be the jurisdiction's decision if they want to disseminate that information or not. Okay. Thank you.
You're welcome, Council Member Roer. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Thank you for being here. Thank you for this presentation. Um, I especially liked how you said it would provide more support for school zones. That's something that's very important. Also, I think having officers there helps build relationships within our community, which again is very important. Um, and clearly we can see we need this because of the of the excess speeding. Can you tell me a little bit about the mobile Avis Avis since those are put into neighborhoods? What do they look like?
Well, there's and I'll let Alex. So, there's there's two. one. You may have seen it um recently if you if you drove up uh Washington Street in Thornon. It's the white Jeep Cherokee that's parked on the sidewalk. Um that's one uh we we're leaning against that one. Um Alex refers to it as the box. So I don't know if you want to give a more detailed explanation of what the box looks like. So, it literally looks like a metal box that has um um 31 by 31 inch u metal plate base and it's about 5t tall and it houses all the equipment inside it and then it can also be wrapped with whatever advertising you want to have on it for automated enforcement.
Okay. Thank you so much, Council Member Noiki.
Thank you, Madam Mayor. Thank you both of you for the presentation tonight. Um, so yeah, eastbound 112th. Um, that seems pretty problematic and that is in my ward. Um, I'm I'm curious if there and maybe, you know, since director Borders is here, I hate to kind of put you on the spot, but is there I'm aware that you could kind of implement with a camera, but that the road is just really designed weird. It kind of flows weird. Are there any kind of engineering solutions? And I just kind of thought of this like any kind of in engineering solutions possibly coming down the pike that might help address some of the the road situation.
Good to see you. There's nothing specifically planned right now and I know we talk about traffic calming fairly frequently. A lot of times we're talking about that in terms of residential roads. Um things like speed humps and um narrowed uh lane width with striping, that sort of thing to calm calm traffic. Um those those often don't work on our arterials because the last thing you want is someone driving 45 miles an hour and hitting a speed hump. Um makes for a bad day. Um so there's not currently anything planned. Though I will say I It's not something I have spent a ton of time evaluating. So,
Sure. Okay. Cool. I just since you were here, um uh for DC, uh what would how would we kind of spend the revenue?
Uh it has to be for uh public safety and uh traffic improvements. Um and ultimately uh discussions um right with the city manager and um finance director Lovelin uh but but that is what it is is it is intended for uh is for uh public safety. I don't know if you wanted to elaborate any more on that but whether it's trafficcoming um I if it is used in a manner to continue to reduce poor driving and and sometimes that might ultimately be uh changing roadways. That can that that falls under what it is allowed to be used for. Okay. Does that and maybe this is a question for uh Jason um I'm sorry, Deputy Director Lovelin. Um does there need to be a specific kind of carve out or maybe this is even a question for uh Attorney Hoffman. Does there need to be a specific kind of carve out to use that money for speed things specifically? Because I know my my my fear would be like the city identifies this, you know, as a potential revenue stream is like, well, we're not supposed to use it for this, but you know, here's this kind of offuse case and we'll do that. That's kind of my concern of kind of us becoming a little bit dependent on on that. So, I want to make sure that it's going for something that, you know, we don't kind of it doesn't kind of create a dependency. Does that make sense? Am I making
Yes. um it's not meant for you want to say salaries. It's not meant for Okay.
Right. This is meant for um the utilization for public safety. And like I said, it it's not just limited to say um buying another motorcycle for the traffic unit, but it it could be roadway design. But if you look at just that section, if we're talking about 104th and 112th where you um essentially go down a lane, right, if you're going westbound on on 104th, right, you have that turn lane that kind of creeps up on you and then you have to get over. Could there be down the road road improvements or or whether it could just be something as simple as signage or as you mentioned on on 112th? Um that is the that is the point of the this is that the the funds are reallocated towards public safety, driver safety and that so to essentially drive your point home that that's not what it's its intended use is is not to you know let's start paying everybody salaries and growing in in that avenue. That's that's not its intention because the intention is to to try to stop the driving behavior and for this if if these numbers continue to go down that means that it's doing its its job and it's doing the right thing. So hence why you know we want to give this some time to evaluate it to see what it looks like after um you you see the driver behavior start to change. Okay. Okay. That is all my questions. Thank you,
Council Member Burns. Thank you, Madam Mayor. I actually was just having this thought. So, thank you so much, Council Member Noiki, for bringing this up because so are these the city net revenue because to your own admission um violations decrease by 95% after the first year. So, what is the re is this revenue for five years, one year? Like, what does this look like and how does that continue? Well, that's the the reason why I gave you the numbers that are at the lowest. That's the projected long-term as opposed to So, this is over five years. That's right. Yes. Okay. When you look at the that's the consistent,
right? The numbers like you should see the numbers at the 10% level and and higher, which is probably where we're going to start. This is the this is these are the long-term projections. That's why I gave you those so that again, we're not thinking that it's going to be um that's manageable long term and that's the that's what their data is showing that will be the long term with the amount of volume taking into consideration the decreases over time that's the number that you're talking about that's in front of you.
Okay. So for clarity, this spreadsheet, so this net revenue of 31,740 estimate is how much we will make over a 5-year period, not in within the first year or etc. Correct or at year five. This is a culmination total. So it's a monthly projection. It's a monthly projection. However, the volume assumed it's already reduced by 95%. So that gives you a stable projection, monthly projection over the term of the contract. So those are monthly projections for each one of those locations
at after the 95% reduction. Correct. Okay, that is helpful. Thank you. because it was not clear on here. Mayor Prom. Thank you, Madame Mayor. I'll try not to repeat some of the great questions that have already been asked. Thank you both for being here. Um uh in in terms of that question about the fees, I know right now a portion of the fees tickets go to veil, but that goes through our courts. So, this would be completely different.
Correct. Okay. I I figured that um because that goes directly back to helping victims of crimes, for example. So, to Council Member Noiki's point, um I think it's important to know that that's going back into public safety. Um and that takes me to my next question. I saw that and you did mention it briefly that I think Thornton just partnered with you with your company. That's correct. Like two months ago. Um, and I did hone in on that communications, that list of services that you provide. Were there like public a awareness campaigns around that before those went up? Because um, to Council Member Burn's point as well, right, the perceptions around like what was going on with Flock and how we had to make sure we put that out in the community. I think having some kind of public awareness campaign is going to be key um, for that. And then I have another question, but I'll stop there to let you guys speak on that in terms of or maybe your experience with Thornton. I don't know if you directly or personally worked with Thornton or you have any information on that. Maybe you don't.
So I don't Sorry. No, go ahead.
So I can tell you what we generally do with every program that starts and I'm fairly confident that Thornton did the same thing. So, our marketing team, we have a pretty extensive marketing team, will partner with your director of of communications or anyone from the city and work together on your public awareness campaign. What is the message that you want to send out to your community? Maybe it's uh statistics on uh driver behavior change. Maybe you want to make sure that they know where the locations are. So that public awareness campaign would be developed with our input based on local stats, u state stats, and nationwide stats and our experience with that. So we would want to support you through that with all the information that we already have available.
Okay. And that's to city manager guy's point. I think that she jumped in on that as well. That that would be a crucial part in terms of uh communication that's going out there. But uh in terms of the technology, because there's all these questions about privacy, this type of technology has been around forever in terms of I mean I know things have changed a little bit, but red light stop lights, which we're not I remember having that conversation with a former deputy chief and that was a big no no because of it causes more accidents. But getting those types of citations in the mail like that's not new. that type of technology before legislation passed, the same technology was available, but it had to be manned. Um, am I wrong in my thinking? Because I know now there's all these these questions of what about my privacy, but like this is like a decade or more that I know that this has kind of been out there. Um, AI has changed and made it more efficient in some ways. if you could speak to that because I know that's where all these questions about my privacy is coming from, right? And data sharing.
I I guess I'm I'm kind of confused as as to what your what what's the chief wants to jump in here. The question on the technology has been around for a while. It's not the perfect guy to talk about. Who's our tech person right here?
Um, you're right. This technology has been around gosh when I started as a as police officer and I think it when you guys were kids you know learning how to drive you guys are driving down roadways in the big flash right um but yeah those had to be an officer had to be in those vehicles those speed vans um to go through all that today um with the legislation that passed I think that's why you're seeing so many jurisdictions go to it because they see the importance again the cost of uh manpower and putting those things out there. Uh and then the AI feature and everything else just has it and they and they their company has a direct line to our department of revenue. Uh they've developed that through other cities and their programs. So they get those information. The data is not kept. It's only kept for court and everything else of those that actually violated. So did that does that answer your question? Because it has been around for a very long time. people, I think, are used to um speed radar enforcement. Uh it's just, hey, this is new for us in our community. Here are some of the the technology advances. And again, we'll have a robust communications plan, working with them, working with our new communications director, um getting our uh stuff on our Facebook and everything else out there to educate. So, um but I agree with you. I think this technology has been around forever. I don't think there will be that much push back as long as we use, you know, again, really being financially, you know, so they're not saying, "Oh, you guys are out there just to, you know, raise money." But with all the traffic engineering and everything else, if we use it for traffic safety, I think that's a a perfect way to do it. So,
are you asking if an officer has to serve? No, no, no, no. I know I know the techn I know the legislation enabled. that's why we can do this. Cuz we had this conversation years ago and we're like it doesn't it wasn't cost effective for us to have those manned vehicles
um that cost like twice as much at that point in time plus a person that had to be there. Um so it was more of it's still the same technology where the perception right now is this is new. We're being taken over by AI and and and everybody's watching us. So that's why that public awareness campaign is important. Um, and the information that you provided in terms of how the data is not kept is important and that's all part of that communication as was mentioned there before. But I just wanted just for clarity so people know and that's part of that awareness, right? This is not it's kind of the same technology that we've had just now it's unmanned. It's only capturing violence. Exactly. That's all it's capturing.
Um, and then my actual question is the signage for those zones. Um, Vera handles everything. But do what about the signage in our city? Do you also handle putting up those signage? Once those areas are determined, if we move forward with this, that's also what your company does. Okay. And then in terms of like liability and insurance, if one of these machines breaks down, you also take care of that and replace it, repair it for the life of the program. Okay. And if one of those zones, let's say like Melody, that didn't seem to be like maybe a, you know, one that'd be worth doing. Um, these if we do a mobile one, then that you could just move it to another area that may be more effective. Correct.
Correct. after assessment.
When you when you if you look at the the revenue generation on that, that is something that the chief and I have talked about with the the mobile unit moving forward, right? it even if it doesn't cover the $2,500 a month, right? And for the mobile unit in the location that we placed it. Um, but it does uh you know that community feels the the need for it and in this and can we offset that if the revenue uh so that it's not a net loss is my point. Are we willing to because of the getting folks to slow down in our internal uh residential neighborhoods, do we see the benefit of that too to the community knowing that this can ultimately be moved around um where because it's not about the revenue generation or you know generating aspect of it where we're trying to change the behavior internally. Can we do that? And that ultimately that's something uh that we're going to have to make a decision with down the road to see if we can manage that. But that is something that we've talked about, especially if the those numbers are those numbers. If we're essentially breaking even on the mobile, but it's serving a greater purpose in the community, letting them know that this is out and we're slowing down the traffic uh on the slower streets, uh, you know, miles per hour on the internal streets. To me, that also has a very big impact inside the community. Yeah, I read that uh Boulder I think has had a 90% decrease for Collins. Um and I just talked to a mayor of a neighboring city, they don't have
it and they want this as well. Uh and the I guess the term was thrown around that if all of us in the areas, even if we don't communicate with if we all have those, then it's kind of like a no speed zone, kind of like the Broncos no-fly zone. You know, you have a bunch of jurisdictions that are on board with this. So, um, that that's it. I just had a couple of questions that I think were answered before, too. So, I'm I'm good. I won't say anymore. Thank you. You're welcome, Council Member Severs.
Thank you, Madam Mayor. I just have a few things to run by. Uh, in the Midwest, my Illinois, we I don't know, we had speed cameras like 20 plus years ago, and I know people aren't big fans of them. I I don't want to get a ticket either. But uh we know that significantly speeding causes more accidents and really frustration amongst uh other people commuting um which can lead to other violence like you know. Um so just to clear a few things uh as I understand it uh the ticket in a speed trap or whatever you want to call it would be $40. It wouldn't go towards your license points if it was in a construction zone. Maybe the mobile unit would be more like 80.
I believe it's capped at 75. 75. So if we have if you have the mobile one, I know we have these uh safety sensitive zones. Um so if it was if you put it on a community center drive for some reason or Fox Run Parkway or everything that would automatically double as well, right?
Yeah. But one of the issues in the safety sensitive zones, this would only issue a warning if it is less than 10 over the limit. And so most of the speed violations in the safety sensitive zones have not risen to that threshold at least thus far. Yeah. And then uh the bill put it on the federal highways 1071. I mean I'm sure those would be bigger dollar amounts too. So just to clarify that one too. Sorry. And I know it's in work. So, we don't really know all the facts, but as I understand it, if the city gets the right through 1071 passes, we can put it on the federal highway, but we have to work with C DOT. And at that point, C do DOT has more of a say they collect the money, right? Or would it we do we know? I
I believe the current version it would be municipal cuz right now under existing law, we are prohibited from placing them on state highways. That's part of the original legislation.
Yeah. So, it seemingly would be done the same as if it was on our street. And eventually, if you slow down people, I mean, they're not going to want to keep getting tickets, so they're going to slow down. And uh the last thing I'll say is that uh I looked this up earlier. Um it looks like um the cities that are currently using speed cameras are Aurora, Boulder, Colorado Springs, Commerce City, Denver, Eaton, Fort Collins, Glenwood Springs, Gley, Green Mountain Falls, Longmont, Loveland, Sheridan, Thornton, Vale, and Wheatidge just to provide context. Thank you.
Thank you for the research. Um I have a couple questions. I think I'm following. Um, so what you just said is they get a warning unless they're 10 over. Okay, that's statutory. Got it. And the one of the slides says city must designate speed corridors. And so do the cameras have to be in the speed corridor?
Did you? Yes. But so uh we had this discussion uh Alex and I earlier most municipalities are so you're not doing street by street especially a city of our size you just and again this what has to be written in by Corey in the ordinance you just do the entire city as a report. Okay, because I I guess I was looking at the potential location slide had two and so I wasn't sure if those were going to be the speed corridors. So that's that's not what that slide means.
Let me let me So So DC Rice just raised a significant policy question for council and that is whether you actually designate the corridors or you designate the whole city. Um, that's a that's a significant policy question for you because we can put what the statute I think contemplates is actually designating the corridors so that you are put on more particularized notice of where the cameras are. But you can designate the entire city and move the cameras around.
Okay. But that that is ultimately a question for you all as to whether you want the specificity in the ordinance of ident identifying particular speed corridors or or or not and then they'd be authorized throughout the city.
Okay. So that's a policy question. Thank you. Um so I'm looking at the traffic analysis. I mean that just tells us what we know. There's certain areas that people speed in. That was confirmed by most of us here. And I apologize if I missed this. Is there a reason not to go to just mobile and not do fixed cameras at all? Um yes, the fixed are meant to curb uh traffic accidents and slow people down. If you look at their locations like those were targeted in our approach. um whether it's Washington um you know between Washington and 100 and or Irma rather and mainly coming uh into the city and down by so that is a a huge piece of it. Um also we believe with the data that if we are placing it for example uh in the neighborhoods you're not going to I mean we can ultimately do that it we won't reach the TW we won't reach the threshold to we'll lose money. It will cost the city money
because they're just going to get warnings because they won't hit the 10. You think that's what right the the the data shows that that even from our our safety sensitive zone numbers that you look at now we we do on on community center drive absolutely have um the the data backs that when you look at the the numbers and the other ones from a speeding we won't come close no to to to doing it because it the again the ordinance is 10 and over there's there's that isn't that isn't adjustable.
Okay. So, I do have a question specifically about Fox Rum Parkway because it was raised before this the sensitive whatever safety sensitive zones whatever it's called um primarily does stop signs
because there's no place for someone from North Park to Central Park to sit where they're not noticeable. So, a camera seems like that would be a perfect spot for a mobile unit or even a permanent camera because that is they'd race from one to the other and they stop at the stop sign or they don't stop at the stop sign and that's where they get caught. But, I mean, I drive it daily. I haven't ever seen a police officer there. And on my ride along they do they do stop sign enforcement in that particular zone but not speeding enforcement unless it's a happen stance. So
or this is a different conversation that we were just having last week. I pulled data on all of the safety sensitive zones um and other uh crime data over the last two years. And I compared the uh s two six-month periods uh in 24 and 25 to compare to see if we were curbing driver behavior.
And on Fox Run Park, we had 10 and over. Uh, I'm don't hold me to it because I'm trying to go. I believe southbound averages one speeder a day over 10 miles an hour and northbound I think it was nine. So, how do you are you using that sign? Can you monitor speed on that sign? That's where we're getting the data from. Yes. Okay. That does measure data. Okay. That seems I see them flying by so I don't know. And and it's not just Fox Run. Yeah.
Um like I said, the only one that the only street in those that that breaks a threshold where we say that we we genuinely have a speeding is Community Center. Okay. Community center, we have a legitimate uh speeding concern. Um which is why if you look historically at the amount of summons we write, it's heavy on Community Center Drive. Okay. Um, which leads into a whole bunch of other stuff when we want to start talking about the redevelopment and do we actually change the landscape of the roadway when you're going through this much pedestrian traffic with our largest park and festival on.
Um, that's probably a bigger picture long term. Um, but the safety sensitive zones, you know, not a 10 over. Okay. Well, I guess that's good news. Um, so I was trying to follow was a little confused at the start. The So the presentation you're proposing specific sites to put permanent cameras and there's four, three, one,
there's it's only eastbound right now on 112. So, it's two on 104 east and west uh at the same location
and then just eastbound 112. And again, we're not saying that there aren't speeders coming westbound. We're not saying that there aren't speeders on 120th or in Irma. It's we we just want to make sure that we can manage the volume um from a staff perspective and we want to work out the kinks and the bugs with let's start small as opposed to um having it and then we can always build onto the program.
Okay. I mean I'm I'm okay designating the entire city. Um, I I think I'm hearing a lot of residents in my head because every single engagement includes they're speeding on my street and you do nothing about it. Right? That's the phrase we get all the time. And so I think I'm more in favor of the mobile units just because I want flexibility and not having them permanent structures because I think it can deter behavior for a period of time. Um, and then I just I think we might be able to make a bigger impact if we're able to move them around. You're not a fan. Chief just stood up.
No, I I am. I just I'm just No, he just stood up. So, I'm wondering I'm I'm just letting you know that when we move it to what you're what you're talking about, we we will not cover the cost. That's all that's all I'm That's all I'm saying. We're for the mobile system. So I think that yeah I think that's the what I'm excited about right so we have these you know the systems one on 104th that's a mess and we we really want to in that long term so that's why it's stationary right
uh 104th and hiron 104th and melody been our highest accident locations for decades right so if we can reduce the speeds coming into those zones going in and out I think I really want to see those numbers 112th again that's another the racing. I mean, B, when you said that, I put a smile on my face because when I was living over in Fox Run, same thing. You heard him blaring on 104th and you heard him blaring on 112. So, trying to reduce some of that track traffic and the sound, but the mobile one is the exciting one. Shannon down on Melody, right? We know it's not going to pay for itself. We're hoping that these cameras are so successful in 4th 112th that we're able to add that mobile unit to make sure that we can move it around the city. So, I'm glad to hear that you want to make the whole city that zone so we can do the signage and everything else because there's a 30-day, you know, uh once we put it out, it's 30-day warnings that we have to do. And that mobile unit, I think said monthly that you guys come out and move it, that's a lot of impact on a lot of streets. Even if we throw it down, you know, I know Cory, but Fox Run and some of those areas, we see what happens right in those areas. As long as you know that that mobile's probably not going to pay for itself, but it's going to the places where we're getting a lot of traffic complaints. We are going to have to do some, you know, research and and traffic assessment to see. We just don't want it out there not generating any um anything on there. We want to make sure there's an actual speed problem. So, but that mobile is very important, but we want to make sure make sure that we can handle this thing before we bring that in. But like uh Deputy Chief Rice said, six, give us six months, nine months. We'll come back and say, "Hey, I think we can handle this. We're good to go." Um they'll be already in line, ready to kick that part off. So, we just have to
figure a lot of this stuff out coming into it. Um, and I think again with the education piece for our community and and all of that, I think we'll do well. So, I'm excited about the program, but I'm really excited about the mobile program and I know what you're thinking on that and I agree, but I think in some of those areas, we definitely need some stationary units first.
Okay. So, we're looking at three. I think I'm I mean, it's hard not to think of all the streets we're missing. So Washington Street that they fly down that street too. Irrma's another one. Like there's I think there's a benefit for that. And I feel like if the projection is that the stationary ones are going to generate revenue, maybe we can offset the cost. I just I think there's also the education piece and a warning is still a warning and it's still learning and we know that that education piece is key to changing behavior. It's not just the fine. Um I don't know. Cory's nodding at me and turned his mic on. What's up?
No, that's the issue is when the chief refers to an actual speed problem, part of that depends on what your definition is because an actual speed problem under the statute has to be 10 or over. And the reason in order to to actually have a fine as opposed to a warning. And the reason for that, I think, is because if you're not talking about cameras, if you have a 10 to 19 over the limit, it's a four-point offense. If you have 5 to9, it's a one. And so the most departments don't write tickets for 5 to9 over because it is such a minor offense. The safety sensitive zones in North Glenn make those minor offenses. There's a deterrent because it's still an expensive ticket because it's it's imposed based on the original fine. You can't do that on the camera. So when you're talking about a loss leader, if you will, or having the revenue generating ones supplement the mobile ones, then it's easier to um if your definition of a speed problem is 5 to9, you will know that they're issuing warnings. It may have the deterrent effect, but there's no corresponding revenue.
And I'm actually okay with that because I think we need the education. The other thing to consider, having a little insight into teenage boy drivers, mine is currently safe without a vehicle right now. Um, is they work the system. They figure it out. They're going to go eight over. They're going to go nine over. They're going to find the streets that they can rip that hot rod from start to finish. There's no absolute spot to put a cop car. They're doing that all over the city. They're doing it all summer long. They're doing it on all street ways. And that's going to continue to happen. And so I feel like we're targeting not them because they're going to work the system. And then we're still going to hear about the hot rods and the street racing and that because they figure out how to work it. They find them. They know where they are. They know where they can tear off without them. Um, and I think that's that's a problem we're still going to have and I'm not quite sure what the solution is for that one. And so this whole thing is really confusing to me. I I remember when we first had the conversation and we talked about bringing in a vendor and we talked about the cost and council was very much in favor of doing it. So when I go back to if I go all the way to the next steps. So is this this is a if you can go one slide back. Um ultimately after a conversation we after this discussion item tonight we want to have a conversation before an ordinance comes out. Yes. Or is this step one and we're going to come back and have more conversation
there. There's two steps. The first is the contract with Vera Mobility and the second is actually codifying the ordinance that state law authorizes. And so the timing if again if if council wants to enter into the contract with Vera Mobility and do this, it's really the timing of the ordinance as opposed to what's in it. And it's really about do you want to do it immediately and take the risk that the legislature is going to change the rules in the next 6 weeks or wait roughly a month and implement whatever changes to the rules the legislature includes including for example allowing it on the interstate.
Okay. Well, I do think it makes sense to wait just for workload of everyone involved but also clarity. I think I I still want to get some clarity around tonight's presentation. So, I'm in favor of waiting. Can I ask what you want? What you'd like clarity for? Maybe I can help on that.
I I may need to sit with it a little bit. I Yeah, I think I got it. I think it took a lot of questioning to get to the bottom of what we're talking about today. And so I mean I think to be honest this slide could have been more clear right here because it could have been really clear with what our actual next steps are which would have put the legislative action at the top and really been the only next steps. The other pieces it doesn't sound like it's something that council's working on because we're the legislative action, right? So determining how many we have, maybe a budget conversation. Um having a discussion around whether or not we want the mobile camera and then thinking about where to put them. Looks like that's I don't know together with technical planning. Um I don't know. There's a lot on this. I think back to Corey's part, getting to the point of what we're actually deciding tonight are those two things, a contract, yes or no, and a timeline.
Yeah. And and what I can do based on the direction from tonight is regardless of the timing when the ordinance actually comes before you, send you the draft ordinance because I think frankly that will answer a lot of the questions and I wanted to hear the discussion tonight. Um, understanding that draft may change if le if the legislature does anything, but a lot of the high points of what you were discussing tonight are already in the draft, such as data retention, how it's protected, that it's not subject to the open records act, how how it actually operates in practice. And so I can send that well in advance if you decide to delay to to have first reading at the end of April. um you will have that draft ordinance within a week or two. You can look at it if if that generates any questions when it comes back before you on first reading. We'll be ready to answer all those.
Okay. I think that's helpful. Council member Burns.
Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um Okay. I I have a lot of thoughts around this. I am just like particularly and we talked a lot about like perception tonight like a lot of people like feel like there's a lot of speeding and like whatever it feels and so I just really want to center us back in the current conversations around cameras and surveillance and perception. Um and so I really need to see a comm's plan before I'm going to feel comfortable with any of this to be perfectly honest. Um cuz I feel like with Flock we've been kind of backtracking and we're still ask still answering questions and it's just like I don't I don't know and I if we're going to just like keep adding and now we're going to add more cameras on. I don't know how people are going to feel. I mean like yes the technology's been here but again like I need to understand what we're going to say and how we're going to explain that. And then so in that vein I am not in favor of naming the entire city
blanketed as a zone. Um, I think we need these to be I think to show good faith to the community that we are very specific in what we're doing here and very intentional. Um, so I'm not in favor of blanketing the city. Um, and I'm also in favor of waiting because I would love to see how this play because this I don't know what this is going to look like in a week and two weeks or whatever at the state capital and I don't want to have this discussion again. No offense, but yeah. And to council member Burn's point, if the entire city is not designated, we would identify the specific locations for the permanently fixed and then have other language that says you have to have signage 30 days in advance for the mobile.
So that would be basically the the fallback is that you'd still have your designated permanent ones in the ordinance. you wouldn't have the temporary ones in the ordinance. You would have a requirement that they be posted before they could be deployed. So, I know we haven't heard from everyone yet, but the question is if we delay, then we're not approving a contract soon, right? because we haven't answered some of these other questions as far as how many because or do we do a general contract that says per camera, but we don't say how many cameras.
I think that's a question for DC and Vera because we can um I think part of what the deputy chief's presentation contemplated the three permanent cameras as the initial deployment. So that's what the contract currently would reflect. Okay. I I need more clarity, I think. I mean, because that would have been nice to have that spelled out like this is what the contract is is three cameras. This is the total. This is what we want. Is
we can put as many cameras into the contract as we're not we're not locked in. That's our recommendation, right? The because of the lift. When we get to to signing the contract, it could be one camera
or it can be five. We're we're recommending these because we understand that the community is going to want cameras and especially the mobile cameras and in different locations. Our recommendation were these three to allow us and to give staff time to see if we can manage it how we have the staff and how we work through the problem. That's where we came up with these uh three locations. And again, the the the the thought process behind this was the amount of traffic accidents that these that these locations funnel into. People get hurt in traffic accidents. I understand all of the the the noise and this that the speed racing and all that stuff. This was geared towards stopping traffic accidents in people getting hurt. That's that was the methodology behind these locations. But as far as the contract, we don't have we we until uh a decision is made on the number, then that will be written into the contract.
Okay. So, we don't have that tonight. like we're not the contract was is is was set for two weeks with the ordinance where we paired the the contract up with the ordinance. This was just are we moving forward. Um okay. Are we comfortable with this? And obviously in light of all the legislation if we're going to push that off, but we're still going to have the the same decision to make in six weeks. Are we comfortable with the three locations? give staff, you know, six to nine months to assess how those are going and then we can add cameras should we see fit. Primarily the mobile camera.
Is there anything less than a five-year contract? Is there like a one-year contract?
Not really. So the jurisdiction doesn't incur any upfront cost for these cameras. Specifically for the fixed cameras and the mobile with the back office programming, right? There's a lot that goes into the program, but specifically for fixed cameras, there's significant construction costs to bring these cameras online. There's also back office programming costs. So, in order to not pass on that cost as an upfront cost to a jurisdiction, we're looking for that 5-year term so we can depreciate that cost that we're incurring up front. So, that's the the logic behind the five-year term. We do a straight uh monthly depreciation on the initial investment.
Okay. And and mayor, if I could, this is where um at the risk of getting hyper technical in Colorado, we can't enter into a multiple fiscal year obligation. So there is actually a nonappropriation clause that we added to make it Colorado compliant. So, while she is correct that this is intended to be a 5-year contract, if the city determines not to appropriate for this contract over time, it can terminate on that basis because it has to be able to do that under the Colorado Constitution.
Okay. One last question and then there's more hands, but I think I'm I I keep hearing different things. I hear that it's going to be staff intensive and we don't know if we can handle it and then I'm hearing it's going to save staff time. Can you help me put those two things together? No. Um we don't know how big a lift it's going to be with the volume of tickets. Right. So we believe and we have the staff to to manage that right now where I say that it's going to free up staff. As I stated earlier, the the staff that are going to be doing it can't be on the road, right?
Those those are injured staff and therefore it frees up I if that's that is a primary location on 104th where you'll see our motor guys all the time. That's where the staff reallocation comes to the our highest speeders, our highest volume of stuff going into our highest traffic accident. That is has been a mission of the traffic team to try to reduce that. Therefore, that allows them to push into um school zones and and things of that nature. So, that's where the reallocation of yes, staff still have to to to clear all the summons that are coming in there. And we again these are estimates and and we're doing the best that we can with the the data and the forecasting and how long that's going to take us. Um and that's why I just really don't want to get out in front of us where we are having to pull resources that are better suited out in the community to just clear tickets on the computer.
Okay. Do these work at night? 247. Okay. I saw that, but I wasn't sure because I know our traffic team, the motorcycle guys, do not do tickets at night, right? Because they're not out there. No, there's a huge safety piece with that. So, there's a benefit there. Correct. Okay. And that's again, these never stop. So, once we push this button,
it it's we have to to manage it and to stay up on top of it. And that's where we want to try to let's see how these these cameras generate. Let's see how we manage it and then we can say yep we have the data for six to nine months. We can deploy more re you know we can we can have more cameras and we can manage it. Okay. When did Thornton go online? Three months ago. Okay. Do they have any input, feedback, recommendations to say, "Hey, these are things that are going well. These are things that we're struggling with. Have you thought about talking to them at all?"
Yeah. No, I mean, I specifically asked about uh what the white Jeep Cherokee was on the sidewalk and if that was the version of the mobile. Uh so I was talking with their patrol commander um and again with uh our representative that's on CCPP that is clearing tickets down there. Uh they're very busy and it is working extremely well in the locations that they have it. Okay. So you mentioned a former like a retired individual on one of our boards. Is he a paid staff member? Yes. He's doing it contractually, right? Yeah.
Okay. I just That was kind of vague, too. I was like, "What are we talking about? I don't know why he's retired." He's retired, so he was just like, "Yeah, I'll buy." Okay. Well, I wasn't sure if he was volunteering like a CPAN guy or if he was We We've thought about that. The issue becomes if you clear the ticket, you can wind up in court. Yeah. Right. So, we didn't want to do that to our CP pan.
That's fair. Okay. I think we have more questions. I'm I'm sort of in favor of waiting and circling up later. Um but we'll see. Council member Lighty, thank you. Um I am also in favor of waiting. I just have a few questions. You had mentioned that the price of construction or the construction costs kind of feed into that 5-year contingency situation. If this is just in my head, if someone was to take their car and destroy one of these cameras or hit one of the mo mobile things or anything like that, is is that then like so say I drove into it? Is it my life? Like do I have to pay for it? Is the department paying for it? Are you guys paying for it? What happens there?
Well, several things. uh if you're at fault and you hit anything with a car that's going to right that there's insurance claims and things of that nature if you're deemed at fault. So we're kind of entering into a from verm mobility standpoint they replace the cameras they get the cameras back up and running like no matter what you guys pay for it. Oh great oh did you asked about like the if it reboot. Council member Noiki.
Thank you, Madame Mayor. I'll try and make this uh quick. I think this is kind of similar to council member Burn's point. Yeah, I you know I I do think the technology or at least the appearance of cameras on roads can be kind of is kind of an antiquated maybe a little bit but what is not is kind of the AI component the cloud storage piece you know kind of taking pictures of people and kind of keeping them somewhere right I think that's kind of what the conversations we're now starting to have you know around flock and stuff so I do think and I want to kind of if we are going to proceed forward with a contract contract, you know, looking at kind of, and this is maybe for kind of city staff, um, what is kind of the retention schedule for the data. Um, is there any kind of third party access restriction? And then having it kind of spell out what North Glenn controls versus kind of what Vera retains. Um, you know, just as I think as we go forward now in this day and age, we're going to have to start thinking more and more about these things. uh you know because ultimately we're giving away our privacy um you know and and I guess in exchange we're getting safety you know we've got to decide if that's worth it th those terms are in the contract
okay cool and there is in the in the in the draft ordinance there is language about data retention that's required by state law excellent that is all
council member Sever Thank you, Madam Mayor. I think I know what they look like now because you said about 3 months ago, Thornton came online the intersection of 88th Avenue in Washington. There was these new cameras put up. Silverpole, Silver Hood. I was like, "So, those must be your product." You think? I don't Maybe you can't answer that, but I'm Yeah. Yeah. I it it drives me nuts because right there all my Bluetooth stuff drops out and when they actually had it turned off Yeah.
when they had it turned off to wire in those new cameras, it didn't happen anymore and then they turned them back on. So, I have my own beef to pick with Thornton. But, uh yeah, if anyone wants to see it, if you just go down Washington and 88, that intersection has at least four setups. Now I know more what the construction because it is its own individual setup as opposed to like attaching it to a existing pole or something. Okay. So I think the question to council is if we want to um make a decision tonight or if you want to wait. I've got a wait by council member Burns. April 26th to whatever.
So push it down a little bit. What are you thinking? Wait. Wait. How are you feeling? Go. But I'm guess I'm going to get overruled on that one. No, you can you can say what you What is your truth? I would say let's go. Okay. I'm with waiting. Well, I think we should wait until we know what legislation is going to go through, but I'm on board with it. I think we just need to know that first. Uh, I'm going to side with council member Roer. Say good for Why not make it three? Yeah, I Let's go. Why not?
All right, Council Member Goff, I didn't forget you. Oh, you're un you're muted. There. There we go. Uh, yeah. Um, I it doesn't make sense to me to uh come up with something now and then have to change it. So, I'm I'm for waiting as well. Okay. Uh, Council Member Condo. I'm going to change mine to go.
One, two, three. Okay. We're still five, I think. Five for waiting. Uh, I think we're waiting for legislation. Um, I'm gonna need to talk to staff and get more clarification on this whole thing. Um, but I'll do that and in the meantime. So, and then at this point I'll put together drafts that have both statewide location state or citywide location or designated corridors and then I'll show you the difference and council can decide how best to to move forward.
Okay. I do uh support council member Burns request for some communication. I don't know if that's examples, templates, a comm's plan. It is bringing back a full comm's plan. Um again, we talked about it internally at the staff level, but it wasn't included in tonight's presentation. So, that is an item that would be forthcoming um when we bring back the other information. And so the contract um the draft contract as well as the um ordinance that city attorney Hoffman talked about. Okay. All right. Thank you.
So one more. So and correct me if I'm wrong, but the only thing to to push pause on is if the legislation even changes anything that affect it. Do we want to make a decision on the number of cameras? Because that that isn't legislative based. That's all. The only thing that legislation might do is put constraints on either where we can do it or where we not. It has nothing to do with the actual implementation of the cameras. So that can be a decision should you choose to. I'm just saying that doesn't need to be pushed off. We just don't know what the state legislature is going to do with the the bills that are up right now. But that doesn't impact um if we if you choose to designate it uh those two roads as a speed corridor and and those cameras that has nothing to do with the state legislator. So that we can make those decisions on.
Okay. I mean council can weigh in. I personally need to need to clear up a few things. I'm I'm I'm sure council's going to be on board and overrule me anyway. I just want to get clarity around it on whether or not I want to move forward in this way. Um but I don't know. Do you guys want to talk about how many cameras you want? I'm good. Yeah, I'm good with the three that you propose and then you know having kind of the option at some point for that the mobile one. Okay. Yeah,
same here. Um, I've seen so many crashes on 104. It's our own little crash corridor. Uh, and having been hit by somebody going over 18 miles an hour changes the way you think about stuff. So, I'm on board with the three and then potential for more because I do think there's other areas that could benefit from the mobile ones for sure. But yes to those three. You want to weigh in? Yeah, I also agree with the three. I think that I I mean I want to make sure that you guys feel like you can handle it and then if who knows if you guys can keep going that would be awesome. I think I agree.
Three. The three are based in facts. So I'm fine with that. Um, I would really love to see a contract what it looks like and like cost and actual revenue and like, you know, we have this projected. I just just wasn't not a fan of this hypothetical spreadsheet to be perfectly honest. Um, I'm I'm fine with the locations and like the idea of three. I just this doesn't feel there's just no money here. Like what? Like I I don't know. There's no dollar signs like attached except for this subscription service. You know what I mean? Like I don't I just I I need I would love to see more fiscal details about this. Um, and like and I would love to also see in like the next iteration of this like the amount of speeding in comparison to crashes and like what that looks like and then what a 95% reduction would look like in the amount of crashes we're expected to experience. Um, just the core like actual causation. Um, I think that would be helpful to me to like put numbers on this and like how many people, you know, were going to save like bodily injury or like whatever that is. Um, but I'm fine with the idea of this. It just does not feel tangible to me for some reason after this presentation. Um, this feels like theory. Thank you,
Council Member Goff.
Thank you, Mayor. Um the I think the locations make sense. I think um they're you know those are uh major streets that probably most people well I don't know I don't know what the data is but a lot of people driving on it are not even North Glenn residents and um you know maybe don't have as much care for the area they're driving through or not. But I I mean I I'm kind of with Council Member Burns. I I feel like um you know this is does sound like a a good plan overall, but um you know just a a little bit more clarity on like maybe those the permanent sites anyway would be helpful. And then again we're you know we don't know for sure what the state legislation legislature is going to be doing. So I'm okay with waiting on any other major decisions. Okay, sounds like three.
Okay, thank you. Thank you.
Well, we have a guest that stuck it out. Do you want to join us for public invited to be heard? This is an opportunity for public comment on any item that you heard tonight. You get three minutes. Rebecca Robinson Udis Ward two. Um, first takeaway. Um, I want to say thank you, mayor, for level setting with the community with the behind-the-scenes work that you guys have done the past two years. I know there's a lot to go into it that
we don't necessarily see. I would have liked to in the past two years heard more comments from you guys regarding the distinction between sexual predators and regular mental health victims. Um but still thank you for level setting with the community and who's ever online listening. And then I would also like to say thank you to uh Deputy Rice for the presentation. I've lived in North Glenn for nearly 25 years and I know that speeding is a huge deal everywhere. Um, but when I'm driving, even to go to Sincetti or the European market, there's always some crazy speeder that like comes up on my rear end and it just it's scary sometimes driving around the city with the speeding problem. So, and I get the concerns with um having your picture taken and you the whole debate security versus um privacy. That really is a good takeaway for all of us to think about. But with all the craziness that I've seen just driving around the city, I really want to see something like this. I think it would be beneficial. And anytime I come back from uh these events or these meetings, I know that the commentary I get from neighbors or friends is like, "Hey, how come the police aren't over over on this beat when they're like speeding?" So, it it is a big deal and I think that this program I would like to see it um be implemented in some way, shape, or form. Um and I think that's all I had. Thank you.
Thank you. All right. There being no further business, we are adjourned. Thank you.
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