Neosho County Commission - Regular Meeting

So I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented, which is department head leave requests. We have five.

Payroll clearing from 522 in the amount of $97,047.27. Payroll clearing of 65 for 207,855.41. Accounts payable from 63 for 66,191.69. and accounts payable from today to be a 137,982 14 and minutes from February the 2nd February the 10th March the 10th and March 24th of this year. Anymore discussion. All in favor. I motion carry. So now we have a scheduled attendee. Garrett Sharp is here to talk about an RHID in downtown Chanute. So thank you so much for coming.

Yes, thank you for having me. Good afternoon, commissioners. I just wanted to speak to you about what we've got going on. My name is Garrett Sharpe. I'm the developer of the Servant Lofts project in downtown Chanute. As most of you are aware, it's the old NAF and Bolesy hardware store. It was the venue for some time. It's west of the railroad tracks in downtown Chanute. And so I'm here today to ask for your support of a 25-year RHID for this project. I want to explain not only what we're proposing, but more importantly, why this investment benefits Chenute and Yoshua County. The building has been vacant since 2023 from a storm that came through Chenute and damaged several buildings. Every year it sits empty. It generates very little economic activity and becomes more difficult and expensive to restore. The upper floors currently serve no purpose for our community. At the same time, we continue to hear about the need for housing in our small communities. Employers, schools, hospitals, local businesses all need places for people to live. Our proposal is to transform this vacant building into 15 upper floor apartments while maintaining and supporting two commercial units downstairs on the first floor. This isn't a new development. We're reinvesting in existing infrastructure. It's a remodel. We're saving an old building. And it's already in place. It's all the infrastructure's there. No new roads, no sewer lines, any of that. We're trying to bring life back to this historic building. I think it's important to clarify what the RHAD actually is. The county's not giving away existing tax revenue. Of course, you guys know that. But we're just trying to capture a portion of the new property tax from the value created by the investment. Again, this project would be 15 new housing units, approximately 25 to 30 new downtown residents, increased support for local businesses, construction jobs and local contractor spending, preservation of a historic building, long-term growth and downtown activity. Of course, these residents will buy groceries, eat at restaurants, shop locally, attend events, support businesses throughout Chanute and Osho County. So the economic impact really extends further than just property taxes. um i just would like to ask that we're not looking at this as a tax payment but as an investment in housing and economic development in the future of downtown i really think that this project could spur additional development we've seen development downtown already i think this can really show that that these upper floor living lofts are viable in chenute and so Part of our structure is you know, we have a big capital stack with grants that we've gone after with the RHID with personal investments and then with Financing and so all of this really comes together to make this project work And so that's why I'm coming to you today to ask you to help me to help the community with the 25-year RHID And I just defer to any questions or comments from the commissioners

I did have a chance to view the property, and it's pretty amazing. And your vision for it is quite something. Thank you. I think it will benefit Chanute greatly in the area.

You put me at risk, too. So just climb over those empty holes. It was just fine, yes.

It's not that bad.

No. I see there was a little thing from the Historical Society. Are you getting a grant from them?

So right now I have a grant from the Kansas Rural Preservation Office. we will be utilizing historic tax credits because the property is listed on the national register as of june of 2026 that finally the approval was made so i've gotten that back from the state historic preservation office so that all kind of again goes in part of how we're funding this mechanism i know sometimes they can be a little tricky when they're they are i've been working on uh the windows for them to approve for six months yeah

Any other questions for him?

Not at this time.

I like the infill or use them. in city properties as these projects, because it brings the town closer together to spreading it out. There's a lot of yimpy lots.

And we want to prevent that and reverse that trend. Because I mean, I think if you look at the last 10 years, at least in Chanute, there's been a lot of buildings that have been demolished, even in that short period, especially on the east end of Chanute. We started thinking about the old rendezvous, I'm trying to think of that store that would have been just across from the bank parking lot. It was like a thrift shop. Kennedy's Attic. And then, of course, with the old rendezvous in that building next to it. tribune and everything yeah exactly so you know hopefully this again will keep that ball moving and today i'm not asking for any action i just want you guys to support we've moved through the city of chenute they've approved it of course but city of chenute doesn't have any property taxes we do have their letter here yes so of approval so and the department of commerce has approved it as well and so that's i think it just will come here i believe it's the next stop yeah

And I think you've had communication with community college even though the orange ID does not require. Right. They are taxing them to do that. Yep.

They're a member of the community. Yeah. Yes. I have support from the USD 413 as well from Matt Kester. I see Matt there. Well, I appreciate you guys reviewing it. And if you ever have any questions or want to come look at the property again, please call me. I'd love to show it to you again or talk about anything that you would have a question on.

Great. Thanks for investing in the county.

I appreciate it. Good job. Thanks for your time.

All right. We're down to department heads.

Does Greg want to go, or Tanya, do you want to go?

I'd like to ask for a 10-minute executive session to discuss non-elected personnel.

Okay.

Brett and HR are present.

I'll move to recess in the executive session to discuss personal matters of non-elected personnel regarding the Sheriff's Department for 10 minutes to include Commission, Council, HR, and the Sheriff. So we will come back at 1.25.

I'll second the motion.

All those in favor? Aye. Motion carried. We're back in session and no action was taken. All right. Tanya?

The first thing I have today is an NRP application from Kevin Stanley. They're going to be putting up a new commercial building at 1305 Gilmore Street in St. Paul. It's a 30 by 50 metal building.

I'll make the motion to accept the NRP approval for Kevin Stanley, correct? Yes. To build a new commercial building, 1305 Gilmore Street, St. Paul, Kansas. And a motion to allow the disaster relief application for Dusty. Those are my next two. Okay, I'll forget that one.

I'm sorry, I just gave it to y'all on one because I didn't have my papers today. All those in favor? Aye.

Aye.

Motion carried, three to zero.

I'll also make a motion to...

So I do have two disaster relief applications today. One from Dusty Ewan, their house burnt down... That property is a total loss. There are no structures left on. It will be prorated. The appraised value that will be removed from the property is $24,337. Do you have any questions on either of those?

I'll make the motion that approved disaster relief applications for Dusty Ewing and Mike Dillinger. Yes, President.

I'll second the motion.

All those in favor? Aye. Motion carried.

On the disaster relief, those do both come off ahead of tax, so their tax will be adjusted rather than credit being put toward the next three years. Okay. Unless you have any questions, that's all I've got today.

I think that's it. Melanie?

Good afternoon.

And since Nick doesn't like my weathering...

I just seen that thing last week. It said it was a drought situation. You cursed us a little bit.

My yarn does not think that anymore. He's going to collect some information. We've had some damage down in there as well. Some barns and stuff. Lots of tree damage.

Someone calculated the wind speeds at 77 miles an hour down there. Yeah, they were.

If you watch the pattern, it was so strange. It split north of Chanute and then went to the south part of the county.

Yeah, and we had some rotation and stuff, but nothing that I have had any proof of anything touching down. It's all been wet. We're going to keep it that way.

So I'll make a motion that we adopt Resolution R26F, Proclamation of State and Local Disaster Emergency for Neosho County, Kansas.

I'll second it.

All those in favor? Aye. Motion carried. Oh, thank you.

I'm already on top of it, but I'm already on top of it, but I just need it to be out there that it is going to be sent. There's no need to worry. People will get paid. yesterday, um, I had to finish up and submit the 2027 payroll estimate for K work. And so that is completed. They'll get back with us once they go through it and see where we're at with things. And that's how, um, based on our estimate from last year, that's how we were able to get a little bit of a refund, um, for this year. So hopefully we continue that trend. Um, so that's completed. I have been working with several of my HR payroll peers, colleagues from other counties. I'm going to try, and I can't promise it'll be ready because things are busy, implementing a different process, kind of a hybrid of what I'm doing versus what I could do about payroll bills, tracking, and so it's more specific. to help individuals out so they understand you know like okay this bill this is why it's 2 000 lower it's because this new hire hasn't shown up yet or why it's 2 000 higher it's because someone terminated mid-month and we already paid beginning of the month type thing i'll make sure those notes are in there so hopefully a little be a little bit more helpful then I can also provide that to you guys if you ever want to see it as well goal is to start that with July when I start paying the first of the month bills so goals so I just wanted to let you know about that we do have interviews coming up this Friday for road and bridge Commissioner Clawson said she was available to help with those and I know Nick, you are not available policy from the one that we've already used. This is actually, the Arnold Group really put something awesome together based on the information I provided them on how our application process has been, if you will. So I just want to give this to you guys to have a look over, provide feedback on what you think, and we'll hopefully get this updated and re-signed. So that way there's no confusion going forward. Because I do think some, there's just some confusion around how the process works. And so I'm trying to help clarify that information. And then I think the only thing I have left. Probably a five minute non elected regarding 911. To include myself commissioning counsel, please.

I'll move to recess into executive session to discuss personal matters of non-elected personnel regarding 9-1-1 for five minutes to include Commission, Council, and HR. And we will come back at 1-41. We're going to do that? 42. 42.

we're back in session and no action was taken okay one last thing um and it's just uh to let you know i do not have all the details on it but it has been brought to my attention that potentially what you um legal to um legal assist through k work it's uh forest roads with fulston zipkin um I think LLC or attorneys at law force is amazing. He knows employment law inside and out, so I will keep you guys posted, but I just wanted you to be aware of a potential issue. Any questions for me? OK, that's all I have.

Thank you guys. Mike, we're down to you already. Unless any attorney comes.

I also request that CIC be scratched off. No business.

Good afternoon, everyone.

Do you want to talk about it?

No, we'll have to send it back.

Oh, CIC.

OK. Sorry.

got a couple things i need signatures on The first one is for a geotech engineering study of the. And I also have a motion for that and then I have the one that I will hang on to that or I'll give you that just sign.

I'll make a motion to approve the proposed CFS Geotech Engineering Service for the bridge replacement number 67C-5387-01, the North Island Bridge, in the amount of $15,500. I'll second it. Any more discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Motion carried.

The road sales tax account.

Okay.

I thought you'd do that for me. I got it. I'll make a motion to approve application number one to Reese construction for the four bridge overlays deck overlays project in the amount of $45,675.26. I'll second the motion. And that would be taken out of the road sales tax account again. All those in favor? Aye. Motion carried.

Okay, thank you for that. The next one I have is the agreement with KDOT on the unofficial detour road for the Union Pacific Railroad overpass project. I had asked for we emailed this to you a while back but I had asked for more and it didn't it didn't approve more but they approved an amount not to exceed $222,750 so And I didn't write up a motion for this so what is the estimate I thought the dust abatement we were doing was 70,000 it's about 76 and And we did get that done last week. So that would be for two times.

The 70?

Yeah. That would be in this amount. If it needs it again later this fall or whenever.

We'll have to take it out. So what other expenses will we have?

The rock and just overall maintenance of it. And then we'd ask for some additional help. on the hatching of Queens and 40th Road. And I just asked them to kind of basically match what we spent last year trying to get it ready for this project. And they already had a number that they had in mind and stuck with it. I don't necessarily like it, but I don't see that we can see it. I kind of feel we had a better agreement.

Yeah, we had a better agreement.

Disappointing.

Were we asking for a certain amount or they just gave us this amount?

Yeah, I requested it.

How much was your total that you requested?

I don't have that with me, Gail. When I turned it in, I emailed it to you guys.

Okay, so I have it somewhere.

I can't remember what it was. I don't remember either. Like on the mag chloride, they're just reimbursing us. But like on the hot midge patching, I was hoping they would at least agree to reimburse us for what we spent last year. And it's about half that. And really, the number I gave them was just buying the asphalt and Hiring the contractor that had the lay down machine because I didn't have the other or trucks and our labor were calculated into that Pointed that out

Thank you.

It's not for our discussion. You might remember this last time we appealed one of these, it did not go well for the county. I'd rather not to get into that in this setting. Take what we can get.

I know, but that was not the conversation that me and Mike had.

No, it wasn't. You're right. Nick is right about that. We thought we had this thing kind of

agreed to a number and it's disappointing because we've had a pretty good working relationship. Must be short of my state.

If you want to put this off till the next meeting and maybe make a couple phone calls

We can wouldn't hurt. I mean, yeah. They still have the agreement.

Yeah, let me just if you.

Yeah, I don't like it either, but you know how it goes.

But we can address it if you.

I mean, Nick was. I've already pleaded my case to him, so if you wouldn't mind making a call. So. Okay, we'll table that till the next meeting. Another topic you think back to The flood event of April of $131, which is, you know, about a third. And so I've consulted with the KDM guys. They're very helpful on working through these things. And we're in the appeal process. I don't know why their number is so low, but that won't even come close to replacing the bridge. I felt that we gave them everything they asked for. We gave them a conceptual drawing of what the new bridge would be like. They asked for lots of different information like why does it need to be elevated, why does it need to be wider and longer and all this stuff. The bottom line was that old bridge was a one lane bridge. It wasn't high enough. wide enough or any of this stuff and so when you build these bridges back they have to meet KDOT standards and they should know all this stuff and that's why the cost was more than you would think but anyway we are in the process of appealing that decision. I don't know where they came up with that number at. It's not a reasonable number, in my opinion. That's definitely a flood zone. Yeah, it's in the floodplain. We have lots of bridges in the floodplain.

And nobody lives down there.

Well, no, they don't. access to the farm ground there in the north. There are roads.

Put in a little water bridge and forget about it.

The crossroad. 243rd.

Yeah, we kind of took an old bridge and rebuilt it and salvaged it, put a new deck on it, poured a floor in it, reinforced the walls.

For the people to the west. That was their only way out. When we closed that down, they'd go south there and they couldn't get out.

Right.

And there's several homes that cut up and then go up to 250.

So anyway, we're in the appeal process on that. Again, we did get the roads down south on the unofficial detour for the railroad overpass project treated last week. That went well. Finally got a break in the weather enough to get them treated. Since we last met, we've had two severe thunderstorms. The first one had a little more rain than this last one. It was on June, June the seventh. It was a true flash flood event. On a Sunday, we had to close down Queens Road going to Parsons was that really made things difficult for people to get to Parsons. But it was we had it open back up by about nine o'clock that morning, it receded pretty quickly. But and then we have the other one, you know, Saturday night and Had a couple guys out most of the night. Knows them out and it might get not off, removed for a day or two because nobody uses some of these roads very often. But we had most of them off by Sunday afternoon. I think that's all I have on my list. um we will be starting the i'll have to get with brett on this we'll be starting the right-of-way acquisition project process for that north island bridge here before long i i think i have the legal descriptions i'll get them to you try to get them to you next week we get all the right away for the galesburg 33rd yes um yeah i don't know has it been recorded yet the one on 33rd between gray and i thought yeah yeah they've been paid and the agreement signed and all that uh we'll have to double check on making sure it's all recorded. But all of them. Brett, I'll get with you and give you the details on this other one. I've talked to one of the loan donors and they're all excited about getting the bridge replaced and I'm pretty sure the other one will be the same. So there's a lot of people in and around that area that are excited about having the bridge replaced. And that'll probably.

We're going to lose them.

Feel free to email me this stuff.

I'll just do it right here, Mike. Also, I got a call from Mr. Lewis Heck. He said he brought this up three years ago about some shot rock over 60th and Brown. Several places did some shot rock over there. You definitely need to get with him and get something done about that. Do you have his phone number, Mike? I have his phone number. OK. You need to get a hold of him and get him fixed up, because that's a hilly area over there. It's terrible. Worse than that. Yeah. And we're about done hauling gravel, river gravel down south.

We haven't hauled any for a long time. OK. Well, I know that. Because of the weather.

Yeah.

We can't get down there when it's wet like this. That's good. We can't access it.

Well, I know that the county has bought over 2,500 tons of rock from him since this year in five months. So.

What's your point?

I think we need to stop hauling it.

Why did you approve up to 10,000 tons then?

Well, about this stuff, I had a gentleman that got a tire punctured, brand new tire, and he wasn't very happy.

He got a tire punctured from a river rock?

Yeah, brand new tire. I didn't have 200 miles on it. But anyway, Mike, get with Lewis, if you would.

MIKE PATTERSON We did try some areas and blend it, didn't we?

Yeah, and then the river gravels, it's working. It's doing what we want it to do. Yeah, if you could combine them both, I think that would be great.

Yeah, I guess what, I think we took a section of the road and blended it in and kind of.

Makes a good base. The limestone will not hold up to those steel buggy wheels, and that's all there is to it. And it doesn't matter who we use, you know. We've put both our rock and the other, some from Whitaker down there, and It's it's not gonna hold up. Yeah, well the river gravel will hold up So

I think the other reason we used it for a while was transportation. From Marquardt all the way down the south of St. Paul in that area was just transportation cost more than anything because it's burning fuel.

Yeah, we need to put more down.

And we put some down there. We probably haven't put as much as I'd like to down that area, but we've focused some of our hauling on the...

the area kind of south central part of the county where there's a high concentration of the Amish folks because All right, I think that's department heads unless someone else comes in So we have unfinished business I don't know we had continued to put on here alternative energy. I don't really have anything this time I

i tried to get hello jason he wasn't available today but okay i'll see if he can make it next meeting if that's okay yep um we will need to redo the solar and wind moratorium next meeting okay yeah i mean i've got that ready we can do that anytime can you send that to us yes okay

something else on unfinished business is the purchasing policy so we haven't actually put that out we had agreed to certain limits and then we passed the resolution and then we never did send that out to our department heads so I think you saw the changes that I had. Okay. Then I think we need to make sure that each department head does get one of those purchasing policies so that they have the numbers and what we agreed on. Okay, advantage contract. Last time we were presented with this, but we wanted to get a comparison.

There is no change.

There's no change on anything, so. And then we took CIC off. Their contract was not quite correct, embedded transfers. So I didn't know if we wanted to talk about the RHID that was presented. I couldn't find my paperwork as to exactly what we agreed to with the last RHID that was presented to us. Could we have that in the next meeting? Do we want... to consider that are we going back to the 25 years i guess i'd like to discuss that um so july 13th is when the city's going to bring that back up would be the time right if we wanted to change the 25 years that we would do that or before we could so we could on our our next meeting is june 30th if we wanted to It probably would be good just to send a letter to the city one way or the other. Right. So that they know.

Well, I can get a hold of who's handling the ARCHID. They can get me the financial breakdown of it.

Yeah, this is a totally different project than our last project, which was a brand new building where this is re-finalization of. old building yeah so there's just some in the district too yep yeah looks like most of the departments as you look down there are pretty well within that within that budget so there's probably some things we need to clean up in there but um i think everyone's doing good and Just wanted you to see those. I think the financial reports are actually in your packets.

Yeah, we got our, looks like we got our audit back.

Our audit for 24 is final, so we are on to 25. So hopefully it won't take quite so long.

As we finish the budgetary transfers and stuff, that'll have to go in before they start 25 or...

If we want to do them for 25 or do we want to do them for 26?

I actually talked to Jacob about that and he said that he will have that put in himself. Okay.

I don't really have anything else.

We have Cheryl coming and she's done with dockets.

Have we heard from Cheryl yet?

She did provide in your packet.

Actually, you did give an update.

I don't know if I saw that.

It's just one sheet update.

The extra stuff I brought down later with the book.

Some of the things that he does is he actually compiles all of the audits from the last seven years on counties. So I have gone back and done that so that I have every department from 2018 when I came on to now they're audited budgets. of actually how much has been spent in those departments. So it's interesting to see the ebb and flow of everything that might give us a good idea. Also, if we are considering keeping our R&R close to what it was last year, there's just a lot going on right now. So anyway, I will put in the 27 budget numbers that people have given us into those spreadsheets and of course then 25 and 26 will well 25 will be the totals that we have right now and 26 will be the budgeted numbers so And if I was the first year we went to the 12-month period correct Yeah, so 25 Yeah, 25 is a little, yeah. Well, I think 24 is when we did it, didn't we? And so then I pushed everything into 25. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So 25 is the one that looks a little, looks a little expensive. So. Anything else?

No, just one thing. I think the rock out front looks amazing. The Freedom Rock. Yes, that is amazing.

They came to Erie, so I think we should be very proud of it. Sure. So it's incredible. So thanks for reminding me because I keep seeing it, but it was fun to watch him progress on that too.

It'll be nice to be done for old soldiers and sailors and the fair and everything before.

Sure.

So appreciate the VFW and the work they've put into it also.

What's that?

That sounds like a great idea. I move to recess into executive session to discuss matters deemed a privilege in the attorney-client relation regarding litigation for five minutes to include commission and counsel. And we will come back at 2.25.

I'll second the motion.

All those in favor? Aye. Motion carried. We're back in session and no action was taken. And now we see our last department head is here. Our wonderful county attorney with her assistant? Intern. Intern, intern. Okay, I was going to say John, I forgot.

For those of you who have not met John, John Habel, he is attending Washburn. law school, he's completed his second year, he's getting ready to go to his third year, and Marshburn has a program where you can, dealing with people who are living with mental illness in our county, who have not in the past had a structure to do outpatient orders, which are allowed under the statute, so the proposed patient then has orders to check in, actually has court hearings every month. So the judge can actually monitor how things are going, and the goal of that is to stop the whole, they go to Oswego State Hospital, things get straightened out, then they come back, and then, before you know it, then we're getting another report, and they're screened again, and they go back to us. And also, there's been a practice of Every single person that's subject to the petition, they just transfer, the judge just transfers venue to that county where the hospital is. Instead of, there are people that go through this process that do have connections to our community. They have a place to live. They could, right? We should take care of them. And it's been a little, well, I'm just gonna say disturbing. that they don't get the care. These people don't get the care because there's this whole idea about, well, those aren't our people. Go to Cottonwood Springs, that's in Olathe. Well, Johnson County is now, that court has now said, we're not taking any transfers from you. So you will, because those are not our people. And I have lots of volunteers and people. And that's been going pretty well. He... Because he's law trained, I've had him going through those old cases and the ones that were paid in full and should have been dismissed because that's the deal. is at the end of the diversion time and everything's done, then they're supposed to get a dismissal. That has not been done. So imagine if you're out there and you think you're all done and then you never get that job interview because they do background checks and they see that you still have something pending in Neosho County. So John had that duty. Also, whenever he doesn't have anything else to do, he is working on the big stack, giant stack of police reports that had been reviewed. And so we're working on that too. So I don't think he's wasting any, I don't know. You feel like you're wasting any minutes? No, no. He's not too bored in Chanute. He's being kept busy and he's very valuable. And then I wanted to let you know, and Gail knows this, is we may have an issue with the mold in the cells way back in the area. And so I didn't know, and I asked Dave, was there any guarantee time on the contract with the remediation people? Like if we had a resurgence of it, Within one year, they would come back. But we are having, as you know, a big jury trial for an off-grid sex offense that is a Jessica's Law case, which means if convicted, the sentence has to be 25 years without parole. And I feel like, and there's been a lot of actions in that thing. It is now scheduled to start on December 11th here in Erie. So it's been put off. So I just think there's so many issues. I mean, Brett knows what I'm talking about, that we are certain to have an appeal. And so their contract is for, it seems like a good deal to me. It is $2,900. However, they will handle from one to three appeals in a year. for $2,900. It's kind of like an insurance policy, so probably we'll only have one, but even for one case that's that off-grid. So I'm inclined to go ahead and enter into that contract. I wanted to let you know. And that's money out of this budget for next year's activities. However, it would be a money-saving thing based on the circumstances that we have before us for this year. It would be a smart thing. So unless somebody tells me don't do that, I'm doing that. Let's see, updates. Oh, and, I have a new employee, which I refer to as my Kansas State Archivist Preservation Records Destruction Specialist. Two are empty over in the little what I call the cubbyhole. And so I think he only comes two days a week, but he has been very efficient with what he's doing. And I go back and check on him once in a while to see if he's asleep because that would be boring. But he's doing great. And so now I have all these filing cabinets. I've tried to give them away. I've talked to Dave about do you want to have them? No. So I did come up with an idea that may involve donating them to the local 4-H clubs. because there are, there's a number of like instructions on how to, that you can actually turn a filing cabinet into a raised garden. And it would be great for like the senior centers or the 4-H clubs could create these and sell them or something for a money-making. I don't know, but I don't have, I've lost, the contact information for the person who's in charge of the four-inch clubs. So somebody surely has that somewhere around here to see if they would be interested in taking the drawers out and you put them on the back and drill some holes for drain. And you can actually make them look actually like nice raised flower beds. So I don't know. I'm still working on How am I going to deal with all these violent cabinets? Training in the morning of July 17th. And it's going to be conducted by staff of the Attorney General's office. They travel with a team of people that help victims and highly trained. So they're coming down to do this training. It'll be in the morning because July 17th, as you recall, we're closed in the afternoon because of the being feed. And yeah, John. So now you're going to have him. He's just getting a whole experience. That's what we're intending. Maybe he needs to come to the rodeo.

Come to the rodeo.

Yes, also the rodeo. That's going to be included. I would do that too. And so, but that training in the morning is going to be, I'm wanting to invite not just, uh, attorneys, but also our first responders. It really is for anybody who ends up even interacting with someone who's experienced trauma. And you know, most of the time that's going to be like victims of violence to either domestic violence or other things. Police officers have to interact with all kinds of incident. Big people barricaded in as a hostage. So, That will be a good training for our law enforcement, for attorneys, and I'm going to circulate it around. I will invite other counties nearby if they want to send people. It's going to be at the Impact Center. Nice. They gave me a pretty good deal on the rent, and we'll be set up in a nice place where we can invite people and kind of show off what is here in Chanute, in our county. because they were the only law enforcement agency I had not yet had a sit-down meeting. That is the only law enforcement agency who has not been introduced to, encouraged to participate in using our prosecutor software that all the other people just upload their narrative reports, their standard office reports their videos their everything which makes it really easy for us to not only deliver all of that which is required discovery to the defense attorneys but it also creates a log that then you can then if somebody complains you have the log like no i sent these items on this day not sure what the problem is but we sent them So for some reason, I don't know, they were never, well, I do know, but I'm not gonna say why they have not been included. So we also are going to be putting on a training for the troopers to be able to participate and make it easier. And actually, I said, part of my goal is sometimes we have people get arrested and then we don't get the information in time to, keep them and get have the judge see them and give a bond. They just get released because I don't have the probable cause affidavit. I don't have the stuff I need. And right now the troopers are doing very old school. They bring papers and deliver it to the office. Your name is already on it. You just click on your name. It just opens up a thing. It's very easy to use. You can do it on a Saturday night in your pajamas. It's open 24 hours a day for you. So I think that's going to be an advancement in how we handle things. They do a lot of DUI arrests. And oftentimes when there's somebody that's harmed by those kind of crimes, uh, I do want that all that material immediately. And I said nowadays the defense attorneys, they know that all those guys are wearing body cameras and they want that information and they're, they kind of, demand that information and it's been very clumsy getting the video evidence from the Kansas Highway Patrol. And they've made some, it sounded like some technology improvements and storage in the cloud and other kind of improvements. that nobody knew about. I mean, how would we if we don't talk to those people? We need to talk to those people. So that is, I think, gonna be coming up pretty soon, that we're going to have a training for the troopers to be able to participate. Okay, I think that's everything on my list. What questions do you have for me today? don't have questions but a comment i know it's a week late but happy birthday oh yes i have completed 75 years on the planet and i'm well into year 76 now we just pray a good year yeah a new captain of the ship next year so i don't know when are we going to when do we start talking about that the personnel budget hello i'm listening um yeah we we haven't but i think ultimately we have we have a conversation at some point so we actually are i guess right now sitting down and doing budgets yet so okay we're getting close okay all right well we will consider yeah i'll have to work with her to get ourselves prepared for this because it is going to be Yeah, we have to cause a transformation in that, in some kind of way. And I will do the work necessary when it comes time. And I did want Brett, at some point, when everything is done, I wanted to have you talk to John a little bit about, I'm trying to introduce him to lawyers who do all kinds of things, including representation of organizations, elected uh bodies and and you know other kinds of things so uh hopefully you guys can talk just for a little bit after the meeting okay all right good all right that's it then say good questions about us okay okay okay thanks for coming okay good now i think that's it okay all right we'll make a motion to turn a meeting

i'll second it all those in favor aye motion carry we'll be back in two weeks we're back on schedule okay we'll be back in two weeks we're back on schedule