Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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Looks okay, Chair.

Okay, thank you.

Item one, the minute approval for April 28th and May 12th. Any comments, revisions? Motion to approve. Second.

Who was the motion mover?

Okay, thank you.

All in favor?

Aye.

Okay, that motion passes 6-0-0-1.

Okay, item number three, the request for design permit to allow for the development of a 100-unit affordable apartment project, Monterey, AMG and Associates of a 1.89-acre site. located on Monterey Road. Ms. Brown's gonna give the staff report.

Yes, hi, good evening, thank you. Let me see if I can remember how to share the correct screen. All right. Tiffany Brown, Good evening, thank you, I am Tiffany Brown I am senior planner with our planning division and I'll be presenting the Monterey AMG project tonight. Tiffany Brown, let's start off with the project site, so the project site is for the general plan land use designation and zoning designation is the mixed use and mixed use flex form based corridor. The project site is an approximate two-acre site located on the northeast corner of Wright Avenue and Monterey Road and is located within a quarter mile or a half mile, excuse me, of the Caltrain Station bus route 568 and bus route 68. So starting with a little bit of project history on this site, this project has been collaborating with the city since 2001. When it first came in, it was a six-story structure with 290 units and 55 parking spaces. And then in 2022, it went from 200 units to 47 parking spaces. And then in October of 2024, still the six-story building with 150 units and 54 parking spaces. And the project in front of you today, which we'll go into more detail, was in August of 2024, which is a tiered building starting off at three stories to six stories in the back, 100 units with 100 parking spaces. Before us is a site plan that shows the trees for the project site. There's a total of 42, which 28 of the 42 are considered ordinance-sized trees. Reminder, ordinance-sized tree just means it's an actual tree. Anything smaller is not technically considered a tree. 13 of those 28 trees are going to need to be removed. There's the two street tree London Plains. five coast live oak and six non-native trees. That will require a tree removal permit and the appropriate replanting will be decided at that time. The project, again, is a 100-unit multifamily apartment complex. And it has a mixture of room types that it offers ranging from studios to one bedrooms, two bedrooms, and a few three bedrooms. And it is 100% affordable project that provides very low, low, moderate, and one manager unit. The project, again, is tiered. So at the front, Facing Monterey, it is three stories tall or 35 feet approximately in height and then transfers to six stories tall, 68 feet in height. The first floor includes the office space and mail room and then covers the parking. So it's a podium product type. I have a bigger site plan to show you later. We can dive into that. It also includes a community room and a fitness center. and a little over 12,000 square foot outdoor common open space with 100 parking stalls. This project, again, it's 100% affordable project within the half mile of the transit stop. So what does this mean for us? It means that it gets unlimited density. So while mixed-use flux allows up to 24 units per acre, this project is allowed as many as they want. And again, ranging from what they proposed to where we're at today, we landed at 53 units per acre. This also means that they get an additional 33 feet in height, so this is not a waiver, this is given to them for this density bonus law, so that is where they get up to the 68 feet in height. What is a concession? Just to remind us, concessions are money related and they are limited. They're not like waivers that are unlimited, typically depending on the project. So they did move forward to city council last month and they received five concessions, one for private open space, one for storage area within the units, one for exterior treatment and materials. The other one for balconies, so this is outdoor private open space for apartment multifamily projects. And then undergoing overhead utilities. Before you is a site plan. On the left, you'll see Monterey Road. And then in the back is the Union Pacific Railroad tracks. The school is to the top of the page. And the Community is to the bottom of the bottom of the page here, the site is situated with the building up front to Monterey road but is exceeding the front yard setback minimum the front yard setback minimum is 15 they're roughly around 25 to 30. and The side yard setbacks are five. At the closest, they're around 15 feet, maybe 13 at the closest point in the corner here. And the rear yard setback is 20 feet, and they're over 150 feet from the rear yard setback.

Yeah.

This is the open common space or neighborhood park that they are proposing for the site again it's 12,373 square feet, it includes a range of amenities for all ages, starting from toddler tween and then teen years with games that they can be played it includes a dog park, so let me just. Can you guys see my mouse. Oh, there we go. All right. So here is the top lot or multi age, uh, play outdoor player equipment. Here you have shade, trellis, barbecues, seating, et cetera. Here you have your dog park and then just open space amenities along the project. Here is an elevation of the very first proposal color rendering. So you see the three stories up front. You have the nice glass office space on the ground floor with two levels of residential units above and then ranging up to the six stories in the back. Here is the color and materials board for the project. This color rendering includes a Riverway with a butternut color and also a virtual tote. And in talking with staff and working with us, they provided an additional color rendering that includes gray tones and a teal. So it changes the orange. Let me see if I can get my mouse here again for you. No there okay. So this large feature in the front is no longer orange it's a Gray color and you can see, to the right they've added a teal color as the tent and took off the highlighting orange around. The major entryways of the building, so that was a color rendering option and they also invited our team to go feature other projects that they have built to the north and we looked at a couple of those project renderings. And this one in particular staff was very fond of the coloring and how it looked from the ground and the perspectives and broke up the building and in your staff report, you will see we requested similar features to this architectural style. And that concludes my presentation, but the applicant is here to give provide a presentation and also speak on any other items or questions you may have. Staff is recommending to open and close the public hearing provide feedback on the design elements and adopt a resolution approving the design permit for the construction of 100 unit multifamily project.

Any questions for Mrs. Brown? Want to go first? You have questions?

You can go. Go right ahead. Let me get my long list of questions here, Tiffany. A couple of quick questions. So one is a curiosity question. Back in 2021, how did you ever expect to get almost 300 units into that space? Was there a completely different? I'm just curious.

they had a plan that showed that many units it was broken into two buildings and instead of tearing the building was six feet tall across and it had less parking so where you're seeing parking now was units okay i'm just curious how you get that many units in there um on the concessions i'm assuming look maybe this is kind of a throwaway question but every time we bring these projects forward the time

I don't know how we're ever going to get it done. Is there not any options like to get grants or, you know, what was the discussion at city council that they went, okay, we'll waive that too. I mean, I can understand maybe some of the other items like, you know, balconies and stuff is probably quite expensive, right? But are we ever going to get grounded? Was there any conversations that just said, whatever you want, you got, right?

I'm going to defer that to Adam Pazowski.

Well, Adam, you get the hard questions. Is that the way it works? Yeah. Motion, absolutely. Well, that's right. You're the big gun now, so you've got to ask other questions.

Yeah, so with the concessions, they had to provide us information on how it's a cost savings or what the cost is breakdown wise, because they have to prove that the concession is cost related. Underground and utilities is a big cost identified by this project and other projects, similar projects. And so them providing that information, they get it as a concession. The only way that the city can respond to concession requests is on health and safety. And at this time, we do not have anything documented that underground utilities as a health and safety risk. Or to not underground them rather, it's not the health and safety risk.

Sure, sure this is yeah, I just wanted to tag on while we're on that subject. Thank you, sir. Very efficient. This is this concession is I should ask in the form of a question. I believe the request is to not have to underground existing utilities. All of their utilities will be underground. Is that correct? They're not going to fly electrical over to their new building, right?

Yes.

Yeah, that's what I thought. So it's just whether or not we can make a developer underground their adjacent facilities as part of the design permit.

Right. Because we have the standard or a design standard that all existing overhead utilities be underground. Right. And so their concession is to not do that. Thank you.

One other question. So you're building over that Pronto auto shop, that old 1940s shop. In the environmental studies, is there any concerns around the ground underneath that shop? We all know what happens back in the 40s and 50s with regards to oil and chemicals. I've got to get my car smoked.

So they're categorically exempt from environmental review. However, they did a phase one and a phase two that does check the soil and everything out and everything was okay. And if there were any mitigations, it would have been said in the report.

Okay. All right. I think that's it for now, Chair. Thanks.

Any other questions for Ms. Brown? Sure. Thank you.

So, I know one of the areas that was discussed was the AC screening. So, a question about that. Was that in the design standards and under the MUF?

No, it's not. So when we went on our field trip to go look at different AMG products that were already built up north, we noticed different things that were used for those buildings. And there was a screening that went over the ACs for a product. And so while we can't require, we were requesting that they look into those different things to see what could be. And as we saw, they got a concession for that, but are still willing to work with the city and look into what they can do for us.

Okay. And that was based off of built projects that were completed that you've seen. Okay.

Correct.

And so the other one that I saw in the staff report that just kind of briefly touched on was the sewer improvements. What specifically was it that was a part of the required sewer improvements as part of that study that was done?

I know it's in when you have a second. I'll read that section. So I make sure I get to it specifically and give you the right fee. It's on condition number 20 on page 20. So I'll look it up when I.

Was that a resolution?

It is a resolution. That's a condition.

Perfect. Or the appendix. It's not an amendment.

So in the question, are you referring to the sewer capacity analysis? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So for developments that are not consistent with the analysis completed by our general plan, we have to do sewer capacity analysis to make sure that the amount of units that are being prepared or proposed is we'll be able to, that the systems that we have in place meet those requirements. And based on that analysis, I believe that everything was met, that there was no further downstream or downflow pipes that need to be upsized.

Okay. And so they pretty much didn't have to necessarily make any improvements based off of the analysis that was conducted? Correct. And then the other one, this was also in the staff report, I think it was probably in the resolution too, was the TIA, the Transportation Impact Report. And it talked about, it went actually a little bit into the specifics of like per dwelling unit and the requirements for that and how that it does not generate more than 100 trips during AM or PM peak hours. And so what would be the threshold then for it to require that TIA? Was it 100? Or what was it, I guess, based off of?

So there was not a TIA completed for the project because it does not generate more than 100 trips. The ITE... book is where we get the ratio of what the use is and the square footage of the building being proposed and it will provide a ratio and tell you how many trips that particular use with that size or in this case units would generate with an am and pm peak hour trips this is generally commuter hours and so with the ratio and the number of units They didn't trigger it. I don't know how many you would have. I don't have that off the top of my head, but we use the Institute of Transportation Engineers manual, which is used for trip generation.

Okay. I was just curious to see if it was close or if it was pretty clear when it came to. Okay. No worries. I think that's all I have for now, Chair.

Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Tiffany. Wonderful. So we're going to welcome the applicant.

Okay. Did you want to give him that? You just give him this.

Okay.

test test great and then for the next slide do i just scroll i guess it's a this is a pdf sorry it's hard to see it okay great good evening chair and commissioners my name is gene broussard can everyone hear me okay yeah hi good evening my name is gene broussard from amg and associates i'd just like to do a brief presentation about the project Tiffany did a great job kind of presenting. A lot of it might be a bit repetitive based on what she just said, but I just wanted to walk through kind of who we are and a little bit about the project and answer any questions that you do have.

So let's start here.

So AMG Land Development is an affordable housing land development firm that primarily focuses on affordable housing throughout the western United States. We have developed and own over about 10,000 units throughout California, probably from San Diego up to Marin County. Some units in Alaska, some in Arizona, but primarily in California. Our staff kind of focuses on land use, acquisition, some finance, construction, and real estate. And as I mentioned, we have a high percentage of our portfolio that is focused on affordable housing projects. I have a slide here for the Pacific companies. We're bringing up Pacific companies because they will be a partner in this project. And since 1998, they've built over 213 projects throughout the Western United States. As you can see, they're consistently in the top. 10 of the top 50 affordable housing developers in the United States each year. Kind of in the affordable housing world, there's a top 50 developers in the country and the Pacific companies is typically in the top 10 and number one, usually in the Western United States. This kind of shows the past 10 or so years. just a little bit about the projects and how they're managed. So we do not have in-house property management firms. I think you'll find that some affordable housing developers do have in-house property management firms. We actually rely on specialized third-party professional management companies. That's all they do. The reason why we've chosen to go that is I think we've had Some bad experiences over the years, depending on the location of the management firm and where they're regionally located. And so we tend to gravitate towards management firms that are local to the area that understand the dynamics of the area. And so we've had kind of better success that way. We do have a team of probably 12 to 14 asset managers that manages assets. the third-party property management firms. That eight is probably outdated. It's higher now. This project, I know Tiffany said it'll have one onsite manager. I think internally, we expect to have two property managers full-time onsite given the project size. Again, we retain ownership in these projects. For the long term, we rarely sell. And so we have this long term pride of ownership. We're smaller companies. I've been in the company working for AMG for 20 years. And we kind of stay involved through the projects. These projects have a You know, long lifespan from entitlements, acquisition entitlements, construction through operations. So we tend to stay along through the ride. If there's any questions or things that come up, we're always here. We're currently in escrow to purchase. the property. I think we've actually acquired one of the two properties as of today. There's two separate properties. I think you had mentioned, Commissioner, the Pronto's, and then there's the other property. But we do own one of the two. I don't need to go through the map because I think you've already seen it. Some of this is repetitive. You can see now that we have 100 parking stalls, which is parked at kind of a ratio of one stall per one unit. It's the site plan. We have the leasing, we have a leasing office. It's approximately, I think it's approximately around 500 plus square feet. Then we have a community room that's about 870 square feet. We have a fitness center that's 870 square feet. We have some reading room. And then I think we have about 12,000, approximately 12,400 square feet of outdoor area. The dog park, onsite laundry facilities, and secure bike parking. This kind of shows the area here along the side where the landscaping was that kind of Tiffany was showing before on the slides. And then here's kind of a closer zoom up of the bicycle storage area. Here's a breakdown of the unit mix and affordability between the very low, the low and the moderate income units. And I think one of the commissioners had a question about the previous project and kind of how it was so dense before. I think it is correct that it was two separate buildings. We didn't have much parking. There probably was a different fire access route that created more usable space. If I recall, it's been a minute. We had like only studios, I think there. So that obviously increases the efficiency versus if you look at us, our one bedrooms are like pretty much two units wide. And then if you think about it, if you just did all studios, it pretty much effectively doubles it right there without increasing the footprint. So that's, that's the history. And then we've obviously, as you saw, I've kind of come down and work with staff and we'll get into that in a minute. So we brought this slide. I brought this slide to the commissioner's attention because I've been doing this a long time. I got to say the staff is fantastic here for advocates for the city. They really work with us, met with us, expressed concern. And obviously one of the big concerns was having six stories that close up front to Monterey. And so we worked with staff to... to add this kind of three story setback along the frontage. And we're obviously I think 26 feet from the front setback now. So really tried to break the vertical relief there. And as you know, there's kind of large oak trees on the neighbor's properties on both sides of the property. So it should kind of severely break the front elevation quite a bit as you're driving down, which I know staffs can have a lot of concerns about that. So this is a slide that's pretty much brand new as of today. I think staff may have just seen it this afternoon. So this is a project that Tiffany had on her slide showing the San Bruno project. So again, as I mentioned, staff has been great. And I think we had, I don't know how many, we had quite a few staff members come and I met with staff at some other projects we have in San Bruno and San Jose. And you saw the San Bruno project was a project that they really liked the elevations, the colors, the detailing, the exterior siding a lot better. And so this is kind of our first shot at trying to emulate those colors and styles that staff wants to see better. You know, again, I want to highlight that we're This is a unique position for us. We're like, we're usually, we do work with cities, but not to this degree. We're affordable housing developers. There's a lot of laws on our side, as you know, but we are working in good faith because we want a good project. And again, we've seen we've seen the questions we've seen the pressure from staff to make us be better and make us there. So there's been a lot like staff is, they deserve a lot of credit behind the scenes. It's, you know, those four or five years have been ongoing dialogue and back and forth trying to get this project to where they want to see it. And so this is, this is our, um, you know, best foot forward here to try and meet staff's kind of requests in good faith to meet this. Um, This slide kind of speaks to, we have to be mindful of fair housing laws. I'm sure everyone here has heard of fair housing law, is that there is ways that we could, because there'll be, we believe there'll be high demand for these units at the rent levels that they're gonna be at, but there are ways to kind of give a preferential kind of marketing towards Morgan Hill residents first. And so that's the kind of the goal of this project. I also want to add that we apologize. We couldn't be there for the city council. The city council, we had a hearing about a month ago. Let's go through our density bonus agreement. It was on consent calendar. I couldn't make it, but it got pulled, and there was a lot of questions. Unfortunately, it couldn't be there in person. I was able to speak on Zoom, but I just want to kind of put that on the record that I apologize that it couldn't be there in person. We didn't think that it would get pulled. And then... The parking count, as you can see, we've, you know, getting to one to one, I think is a big milestone for this project. You could see that AB, I think it's AB 2097 density bonus law requires pretty much zero parking. And I've built projects with zero parking, right? And we've done it. And I've built projects with 0.2 stalls per unit, 0.3 stalls, 0.5 stalls. And, you know, there's work that depends on the location and it can work. And There's operational, you know, sometimes you have to reduce rent a little bit depending. But I think getting to one-to-one again with staff's kind of pressure on us, I think is a win for the community and it's probably a win-win for everyone. So just wanted to highlight that. We also have the architects from Architects Orange on the phone or on Zoom as well. If we have any architectural questions that come up, I can speak to some of the architectural questions if they come up. And yeah, I think that that's all I have. And if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them.

Thank you. Questions for the help. Mr. Dunwell.

Just one quick question on the parking. Because you guys operate these types of facilities. Do you expect the one-to-one ratio is actually going to be plenty or do you still see there being overflow typically on it? occupancy like this?

I think the unit distribution that we're at with the higher skew towards the studios and ones, I think we'll be fine on this. I would say if we had a higher distribution of twos and threes, you probably see some overflow into the offsite streets. But I think for this, we won't have that. And what we do on this is if it becomes a problem, we kind of do kind of additional targeted marketing to people that either don't have a car or have one car.

Thank you. Mm-hmm.

I had a few other questions to add on to the overflow parking. I didn't want to start with a negative, but I don't buy any of that, to be honest with you. That you market to people that don't have cars and stuff. This is California. People have cars. But I would say... as an affordable housing unit, it's actually really nice. I think you've done a really good job here. And I think it compliments the staff as well. I mean, we've seen some rough ones and we're not used to the height here, but it's quite tolerable the way it's been designed, I think, and where it's actually located. Compliments on being able to provide a hundred units of parking, which I think will give a lot of the relief, but I feel like there's always overflow, you know, but maybe it won't be too bad. I do like the general construct. What do you think yourself of the proposed colors of the cities? Are you guys okay with that? I saw one of your ribbons, which looked bright southwestern orange. That was almost woe to me, but what I'm seeing right now is a little more calm, right?

What's your designers' feedback on that? I think the new elevation that you saw there in front of you of the San Bruno project, which is there was a more brick and kind of gray tone. I mean, I think my first concern is cost, right? That brick veneer and that is a hardy lap siding, is what you're looking at, is a little bit more expensive. but it's something that we were willing to provide. And I think it's probably a better product. I agree with you that the orange is compared to the three, the orange is a bit loud and bright, and I'd probably prefer the second or the third one, which versus the orange.

I mean, for the record. So what I think the orange is a little bit over the top too, but you know, I'm not a designer, so I'll leave it between yourself and staff to decide, but you know, but just give some feedback, uh, I thought it was a little too bright, but I like the one that just came up a little bit more pastel, a little more calm. A few other questions. You said you're going to have on-site laundry. Is that because the units don't have the laundry?

That's correct. Our units don't have laundry. Because they're affordable, there is a ratio that the state agency requires us to have. We usually provide more than that. It's been a long time since I've looked at the ratio, but if I recall correctly for family, it's like One pair of washer dryer for every 10 units. It's a state mandate if we apply for affordable housing that requires that ratio. And we have community laundry rooms to answer the question.

So you're saying you're not legally obliged to have laundry connections or laundry facilities in the units themselves. That's not required.

Yeah, I don't believe that's state law anymore. I've never seen, I've never heard of that, but no, correct. Usually, I mean, you do see that more in certain types of other products, but I've never seen it in any of our products, no.

Okay, and this is sort of paid laundry, isn't that the... Yeah, it's like a coin laundry.

You usually are, well, today it's not coin, it's like you load a card and... Yeah, right.

Okay, all right. I think that was...

Before we continue, if I can jump in on the colors, if we can get the presentation back up and if we could scroll to the second to last slide or third to last slide that shows the colors. Uh, 1 of the things that we're asking for for the planning commission to provide comment on is the colors. And so we do want that feedback. We want that consensus with the planning commission along with agreement from the applicant. If we can get that on what the colors are. Uh, so that is 1 of the, the guidance feedbacks that we're asking for tonight.

So, which. another slide that shows the actual development with a different color. So is this the color you're proposing?

So that one was the apartment complex in San Bruno. Right. And so Tiffany is going to bring up the one where they did a similar color scheme for the proposed project.

Is this the one you're recommending? Correct.

Okay. So this is the image that's on the screen now is Uh, something that we just saw today, which was provided by the applicant not too long ago, a few hours ago.

Um, and so the city team, this is the 1 you prefer.

Yes, this is the 1 that we spoke about in the staff report.

So that's it. That's not the bright orange.

Correct. This is the color palette that we would prefer.

And is this close to the color? I mean, this is a fair color rendering of what it's going to look like.

Yes. Okay. So, and in the front, when you see the color on the first story, this is brick veneer. And again, the architect is online, if we'd rather have her explain it. And they used the gray and cream color, white color tones.

And a white, is it clean or is it a white?

You know, let's get architecture, if we can.

And just for clarification of gene, if you can confirm that this is the color that you are proposing tonight, or if you're still looking for.

We were willing to come in as a developer to this color scheme in front of you. Thank you. Okay.

We, we have, uh, yes.

Hey, 1 up in yours hold on 1. I was going to ask a question, but I'd like to go right ahead.

Hi, Ioana, can you hear us?

Yes, I can hear you. Can you hear me? Yes. Perfect. Hi, everyone. My name is Ioana Maggiati, partner with AO and architect for this project.

So, Ioana, we're just curious as to the color. What would you call that color? Is it an orangey-brown color? The brick, right? The rendering, I don't know what you can see on this, but the rendering on the screen looks much lighter than on the sample. Is this pretty close to the color that's being...

It is the same. It is the same. It is exactly the same material we proposed and it was built in the city of San Bruno.

These look very different. So which color is it closer to?

So the brick venue is what you're looking at on the first floor. The highlights around the office.

Yeah.

The highlights here around the office are that orange it's a burnt orange color and it also highlights the window trim on the sides. Not everyone, but she has put it throughout the development. And then has, um. The metal audience on the top of the windows. To highlight the building.

Okay, so just to be clear, because I know you're trying to get to specifics here, right? So the San Bruno one has a big orange section, right?

Correct. That color is just used as an accent color.

Okay, and so the brick is more of the brick color, right? That kind of brownish, light brown brick color. Okay, and then is it white or beige? What is that color above it?

It's off-white. It's not 100% white. It's a little bit off-white.

Off-white. And then there's a gray one. Is there a green in there, too? Or is it all gray?

Can you say that again, please?

Sorry. Above the white, I see the dark, maybe a charcoal for the elevator shaft. Is that an elevator shaft there or something? Yes. And then to the left of that, is that gray? It looks like it was green. Is it just gray?

It's gray, yes. Great.

Okay. All right. Okay. So I can plug them, too. I like this color scheme. I mean, whatever everybody else thinks.

Okay, thank you anything else.

Thank you. Thank you. Just a quick question. So, can we do a quick comparison of. The staff presentation, can you pull that 1 up? Because I just wanted to use as a reference for a question.

You're talking about colors?

Yes. Okay.

Very proud of you guys. You're really into the colors.

Yeah.

Nice.

So I had a quick question. So as you can see at the very leftmost, I guess you can call it the massing of the building, you see you have the two top sections that look like maybe steel. And then you have the rest of the sections below it, the three, it's actually technically four floors where it says El Camino Real. Those three stories above, those are brick. And then if you move 2 more sections down right before the large vertical orange to the very right of the mass of the building. Right next to that, you have that same structure where you have a breakup of the vertical structure where you have the 2. I'm orange broken down by the, the rest of the off light. Of those following looks like probably from the 2nd. To the 4th floor. Um, but when you look at the staff, I mean, the recommendation that was proposed before, is that something that could also be incorporated to not just talk about the color, but also the vertical massing to break up that. Because if you pull up that previous 1 that we have for the color. or sorry, the design proposal right here. So if you look at the very back of the building, you see just the first two floors have the brick that covers it. And then you have the rest of the massing for the rest of, this is probably floors three to six. Can those, that brick level or the different color schemes be brought over to the other parts of the building to break up that massing so it doesn't look as maybe large as it would be with everything being more horizontally the same color?

I think I'm going to defer to Ioana, but I'm also going to chime in after, because I have an opinion on the question too, but I'd like to see what Ioana says first.

Can you guys hear me?

Yes. Yeah.

Okay, thank you. So this is something we can definitely study, but please keep in mind the cost efficiency of the project and the more brick we use, the more expensive it will be. I work with AMD for, I think, a decade now, over a decade. And I can tell you the majority of our projects, we propose enhanced materials along the main facade. And the two long facades of these buildings are the side elevations. that are not as visible from the street level. We can study it, but please keep in mind that we selected this view angle on purpose so you can see the entire elevation. I don't believe it will be that visible from a street level, the sides of the building, the way you see them on this view.

For sure. And maybe just going back to Commissioner Downey, I do agree. And having staff discuss the proposed design, I think it's really smart to have that step up so that it does break down the entire structure from the frontage. And again, I think you did a really great job as an architect and working with the city. So thank you for that.

Could I ask you a question?

Yes.

If we could explore that, instead of having the brick all the way, could we play with the colors instead of enhanced materials?

Yeah, and I was actually just about to ask you that too, is because I don't think it's necessarily something you have to use with brick per se. Again, not necessarily coming as a designer, but just giving general feedback is... I think color will also break up that vertical structure. And so, again, not necessarily having to bring that enhanced material that's on the frontage. And at the very bottom, at the rear, but more so about changing that structure. Because typically, as you're looking at it, your eyes come up as looking at a monolithic structure. And I think having maybe different colors in those sections may... possibly allow that same breakage in the massing than it would otherwise. So I think that's probably just one recommendation. I don't know if other commissioners have something as well. And I just wanted to, while we had you on the line, to see what your feedback was on that.

architecturally, this building is different than the Bruno one, the massing-wise. Please keep in mind that the one in San Bruno is all studio units, so the massing lands in a different way, right? The layout of the building is different, and the articulation is based on the plan's layout, if it makes sense. So we can try it, but I think for this architectural style, we needed to look more... uniform and design holistically 360 around the building. Right now, the reason we have it as two levels on the back is based on what happens in the front of the building. Because we want to look at like balance and it needs to have harmony and the design to work as one. So we can explore it. I think we did look at it in the past and we felt that it's more appropriate based on the front elevation, the short one, to keep it as a two-story volume. But again, more than happy to go back and look at it if you guys would like to see it.

The other thing, which it doesn't show on the rendering, the back half of the building is screened by that adult school. So you're really not going to show like that. Yeah.

Yeah. Commissioner, can I add a couple of things? I'm also kind of seeing this live with you because we just got this in time for the hearing, too. I do agree that having that much brick at the rear of the building, if anyone's familiar with the site, as the commissioner just alluded to, there's very large oak trees on both sides of the property, like heritage oaks off-site, but the canopies are like 20, 30 feet wide. up and it's really going to be buried there so my preference would not to be do the brick at the back that's really not going to be seen and I'm more thinking of as you're alluding to the other San Bruno project has the vertical break and I'm just thinking that you're going to see the back half of that building kind of coming out of the sky out of those tree canopies and what color should be what color should that be so it kind of blends more into the skyline which is I'm not a designer either, but I'm thinking an off-white maybe probably is less obtrusive than a stark charcoal. I could be wrong, but that's what I'm thinking. Maybe we take the blend and make the bottom half darker and then blend as you come out of the canopy into the sky that's more visible.

And again, as alluded to, as well as these are recommendations, right? These are things that we are hoping that we can maybe get that agreement on as staff had talked about. But along that same point, I was wondering if you could maybe touch on some of those those five recommendations that staff had and maybe seeing which ones maybe you would consider having that agreement on versus ones that really would not be able to be proceeded on. I think you talked about a few of them, but it was colors, windows, AC screening, architectural features, and mural. Is it possible if you can maybe talk about, I mean, if you want to talk about all of them, even though we covered a few, but if you wanted to see if you can get maybe some agreement, what your thoughts are on those five staff recommendations.

Yeah, is there, can I get the printout? It's just, I'd like to get the printout so I can kind of go through one by one.

If I can just talk to those five place, if that's okay. So the first one was colors, which is what we've already talked about. And the second one was windows. So considering alternate types of windows or work with the colors to make the windows look like they're different, which you can see the architect has done there with the different tones around the different colored windows and adding the black to elongate the center ones, which really do the same window, but it gives it a different feel. Mm-hmm. The third one is the air conditioner screening. So what that look like, and I don't know if it really works for this building. And again, the architect could probably speak to this better than I can. On the window, if you look at the bottom, she has it blended with the same metal tone around the window itself, right? These aren't your typical window with the white trim. It has a metal darker trim. That is meant to blend with the screen of the air conditioning vent. It's not always the case. And sometimes in like a project we saw up north, but they did theirs was white. They had built in a screen across it. So it didn't look like an air conditioner. And I think, um, the goal here is to make that look like it's not, and they're achieving that with the colors and making it look part of the window. architectural features provided when you can break up, which we talked about with the colors and everything like that.

And then the last one was to consider a mural.

So this project is not subject to the public art ordinance. And we just wanted to keep that open conversation if they choose to add art or if there was art project, maybe for the city to keep the conversation open and maybe add a mural.

Put it where?

It's just to keep the conversation open. We don't have any specific location. We don't have, it's, you know, you can put it on the building side, the facade. It could be inside if they wanted to. Again, it's not subject to public art, but it was just a suggestion by staff that they consider public art.

So, I think just with all the what they propose on this elevation, it meets our intent. Okay. With the color change with the direction that I'm hearing from planning commission, it meets these items. With the mural is just keeping the conversation open that. This is something that we can continue on in the future with the applicant to see if a mural would work in this on this building. And so I think with the changes that they're proposing, the commission is happy with these changes. It's just also just on the, on the back half of the building. Having just general direction is good at this point with this new elevation. And color palette that we can, if it could be the planning commission's direction as a condition or, or even just overall direction to continue working with the applicant on the colors, especially on the rear half of the building as the choice of the planning commission.

Right. That's that's really helpful. And I think that's what I was looking for, too, is the staff recommendations and what you have proposed. And it seems like that's meshing. And so thank you for that feedback. I think that's really helpful. And thank you for that. I'm taking on the staff recommendations and bringing that to that new proposed project and the colors and the schemes of the architectural futures and so on. So that's all I had here.

Commissioner Lake.

First of all, I think it's a great project and I definitely think the staff and MG have done a really good job in terms of collaboration. Just some feedback on the design. You know, the burnt orange is actually my favorite color. So I do like that you kept it in this design. Having lived in London for several years, the dark charcoal And the brick veneer depressively reminds me of London. And so I like the, in the San Bruno project, it was like a light blue, but this, like this brown brick reminds me of the cheap London council flats that I've seen so often. But I do like this design. And I also think if you lose the brick, and used enhanced materials instead, I think that would be better.

Has he been to Dublin?

So that's my feedback on this. And then the suggestion I have for the outdoor children's park is if you go around Morgan Hill now and you look at all the parks that we have, they started being very open sky and now they have sails because of the heat. So, I would just suggest that you implement sales over that playground park for the kids.

Thank you for that recommendation. The only thing. I think that is maybe to our advantage here. I don't know if we did a solar shade study, but looking at the North arrow here that the actual building here. May provide significant shade. Because the building is west, it seems, of this structure, of the outdoor play structure. So I think it's going to have quite a bit of shade from what I can see.

That would be wonderful. Just something to consider.

It's a good point. I'm sure that's all I had.

Thank you. So we've got to be really careful of the directions here, right? Because the directions have a tendency to be perpendicular to Monterey. yeah north is not perpendicular to monterey it's often an angle and on top of that we're we're fairly far south and so the sun is really high in the sky so before you look at shade for that area before you look at shade for that area do a sunlight test yeah right run run the algorithm in the cad system and see where the building shadow really is because it's it's The sun's so high, it doesn't drop until late in the afternoon, maybe. So just, I would run the sun and I have the same concern about shade in the play area, right? And as they're seating in the play area for parents that are watching the kids can set and be in the shade. And I wasn't clear, Adam helped me and try to understand a little bit better, but I would have liked to have seen a drawing that was much more detailed down at the playground area, where are the fences? What type of fences are they? What kind of security does that provide? Okay, because with this tall of a building, some parents may let kids come out there at some time, some parents may not, right? And only a few of the parents will be able to look out a window and see them, right? And on top of that, if they're on the sixth floor, it's a fairly long journey. to get there if they need to get there. So I think some thought needs to be put into that. The other one is with what staff has said, this new drawing is much closer to what we wanna see, I think. And I would not try to say, that's it, we want this. I would say, let staff work with the applicant and figure out what works best. I do have a tendency to agree that the back part is so far back near the railroad tracks that the view thing, unless you're pulling into the project, is pretty slim, right, with the trees and some. So you might want to look a little bit about do we put the cost there or do we put some cost up front? where everybody will see it and how that plays out but I don't want to dictate that I want the professionals to figure out what the right balance is that is I agree with the way the structure is set up in terms of I think it actually breaks it up pretty well right I understand the vertical side but I think the big vertical side is so far back that at least with what's there today I don't I don't know that the window, unless you're moving right into the project, is that wide for cars coming either way. I do have one problem. Adam, which is that elevation view that we were talking about earlier? The one with the dimensions on it?

Right. So the dimensions are on site plan A4.0. So it's in the planning commissioner's packet on the project plan. So it's page 18 of 26. On those plans, it lists the dimensions of the height of the building. I reviewed it a little bit more during this meeting. And through this, what they're doing is they are providing the dimensions for the overall height of the building, which is 67 feet and 7 inches. They're was the discussion between Joe and myself about the height of the building, where there was a height level for the floor, the sixth floor versus the roof, where it said that it was 11 feet, 11 inches on there. And so the question was, were that height Does that include, I'm not sure what the correct word is, but the cap of the parapet, the top of the building versus the roof? And then you have the stairs and the elevator shaft that goes to 62... Sorry, let me zoom in on that. I think it's 82 feet and three inches. And so... In our code, also, we allow parapets to go above the maximum projection based on required law for... Streaming. Right. For safety. And then for elevator shafts and stair towers, they're allowed to go 16 feet above the roof height as long as it covers less than 10% of the roof area. And so we can... With this, we can continue working with the applicant, make sure that they meet these requirements as well.

If that's the direction list, there's a question is, if you add them up, right? The previous floor ends at 5610 and you put 1111 on it. You're at 68, 9 inches. When the building is really 68 feet limited.

Yeah, I'm looking at 84.0 as you speak, and I think Iwana, who's on the line as well, is probably looking as well. So I see the 56.10, and then you're saying if you add the 10-foot 11. It's not. Oh, it's 11.11? 67. yeah I see that I see there, I think that plate should actually I think it should be 10 foot 11 all of our floor heights in floor plate should be identical and you want to maybe could speak to that, but I do see the 1111 that they're calling out on the top plate.

So you know I don't know that we have to figure that out tonight right, I just wanted to point out that it looks like we're over height to the roof right. And the extension line to tell you where you're going to the building at, it isn't clear to me if that's exactly at the rough line or not. It was just the discrepancy. And then I said, wait a minute, what's that discrepancy? And then when I added it, it didn't work.

yeah, so I get I can speak to the 10 that are typical plate there is the 10 foot 11 inches there that you're seeing or the yeah and and that is typically to the top of the plate of the unit and then, on top of that you typically have your pair pit right above that right.

So I was assuming it was to the plate right to the top yeah. And if it's at the top and 1111 is right, you're above 68B. So just somebody needs to figure that one out.

Yeah, happy to work with staff to kind of understand that. And I don't know, is Ioana still on the call?

Yeah, I am here. So we will provide more details on that one. But your question, Gene, is why the upper level was 1111?

Yeah, it looks like on sheet A4.0, the top plate is instead of 10 foot 11, it's called out at 11 foot 11 inches.

Yeah. So we do that because of the roofing system to create. It is based on our details and I can provide more information on that.

Got it. So it does include part of the parapet in that extra foot, Ioana? Yeah.

I do not believe so, but I will go back double check and send you the detail to share.

Okay. Okay. It's going to be the roof choice and the sheeting. So it's the deck of the roofing.

That's why it's got an extra foot there. Yeah. I just thought the crickets and everything else would kind of account for that in the parapet dimension. That makes sense.

Yeah. And in the past, we didn't include that information at this level of the design, but we want to show, you know, the height of the building and including everything.

Got it. Is that something that commissioners are open with us just to work with staff to make sure that we get below that threshold?

Absolutely. I don't.

whatever.

No, the only question I still have is what do you have in an existing park in terms of shades and benches and things like that?

I think we have a slide, Tiffany. Do we want to, maybe your slide is better than our slide for that? I'm trying to think if

Sorry, here we go.

Yeah, so this is this is what you can see. This is the kind of the zoomed in detail of our landscaping plan here.

Yeah, but see, that doesn't help me understand where benches are or where shade areas are for people out there. It does get a touch warm in South County.

Yeah, the area in one is labeled as picnic tables. As you can see there, I'm trying to, let me just try and make sure I understand here.

Is that covered though? Is it pergola or is it covered? Does it have shade?

I don't believe that's covered now, but I think, I do think given, you know, I agree with the North being careful that Monterey is not a true North. It looks like if the arrow is correct in the site plan, it looks like it's more of a Northwest. So I think I hear what you're saying is that we need to do a shade study with the CAD file and do a solar analysis and see where it lands. And if in fact there is a lot of sun there, I think we are definitely open to adding those types of kind of triangle shade structures that you're talking about. They're kind of like sails.

Yeah, something like that. And then benches, right? Of course, somebody can set not so they're focused all right in that area. The benches near the toddler area, I just want to see that they're located appropriately for the parents or whoever else is there.

Yeah, and then number two, if you can see clearly on your screen, I think number two is the benches, but I think what you're saying is maybe add some more benching.

Yeah, as appropriate. But again, I don't want to try to design it here. That's probably the worst place to try to do it. But I'm sure Tiffany understands what we mean.

I think with the plan commission's direction, we understand the tasks ahead of us. And to consider the shade structures, work with the applicant on that, as well as benches and even with the trellis over the picnic tables.

Anything else? No.

Okay. And just a second, Joe, you had a question about the fence around the perimeter. And I saw here they have a six foot high black steel picket fence around the perimeter of the playground. Is that correct? That's correct.

Yeah. But again, I think Tiffany understands the concerns and she'll make sure they work out the details. Right?

Yes.

Thank you, Commissioner Lake. Thank you, Chair. Okay. Well, I think for an affordable housing project, it's a well-done design. I only have one question. No, you're done. Storage for the units. What was the thinking on removing that? And the only reason I bring that up is for a studio and even a one-bedroom apartment, that's going to be tough. Since they have no balcony space or. So, what was the thinking on that?

Usually commissioner and chair, the storage request, the concession comes from us more was just a spacing. It's the size of the requirements and trying to be able to fit it with the project and economics. Right? And so I think. we can go back and look with Tiffany and staff to see if there's little corners here and there in hallways that we can add little storage, you know, carve outs here and there. But that is usually the general request and why the concession is needed.

Okay. Thanks. I'll share to your question, though. If you needed to park a bike somewhere, where would you put a bike?

There is bikes. There's a bike storage.

I didn't see that.

Yeah. There's bike storage in the parking. And I thought I saw some storage area on each of the floors that were labeled as storage areas. Okay. And I didn't know Adam, but I don't think we found him on the top one. on the top view, but on the first and second floor.

On the second level and third level, there are some storage areas identified on the plans. It's on sheet A2.2.

But is that building maintenance?

It just says probably, but it's... You're going to put your stuff in there, Joe? No. No. But I agree with you that the size of these units, even the one store, the studios in the one bedroom are not much different in size. Right. It's about 28 square feet, I think. Okay. And that's not much. And so basically there's no storage in there for anything. And that's problematic for me. Yeah.

I did want to point out on the within The parking area that is covered, something that we saw and is more unique to this is the bike area storage is a room where people can hang up their bikes and also store anything that you would normally see on a balcony or things like that. So where there isn't a balcony or extra storage, there's the opportunity to utilize that room for your bicycle, for example.

How would that work It doesn't seem very secure if you've got 30 different people putting stuff in. I don't know.

I mean, I guess you can lock up a bike, but... Other stuff, I have no idea.

For the bike storage areas, the way that we saw it at other projects is there are security cameras in there so they can see who comes and goes. They need a key fob to enter those areas, and then they can also padlock their own bicycles. So we saw that as well at other facilities.

The bikes I get, it's the other stuff you'd store.

Yeah, for those areas, for the bike storage areas, it is meant just for bikes.

Okay.

Chair, can I ask them for us before we vote? What is the final consensus then on the direction on coloring? Are we going with the rendering in general?

Are we making any changes?

If I can interrupt right now, we are still just questions to the applicant. We still have to ask for other public comments before further discussion.

No, I understand that. But before the applicant, before his time is up, we... We know we pretty clear we're good we don't go okay right yeah thanks.

Anything I only have one other question you talked about using a third party management company for the building right that's correct, who do you use in South county you said you have a tendency to use somebody in the local area.

um good question we don't have for this because we haven't i haven't done a project down in south county but we are using in san jose um was it conan yeah it was conan management is who we use in san jose so you're saying your two completed projects in gilroy do not have a management company The project in Gilroy on our website, those are projects where our principal is an investor in those projects and we weren't associated with anything with those projects. I was associated with one other project in Gilroy like 10 plus years ago, but we sold it to Danco and they ended up building it on Monterey Road. But those two other projects are owned and operated by specific companies who would be a partner in this. But I personally in our company wasn't really involved in the operations with that. But our principal is an investor.

But they're listed on your website.

Yeah, I think just because he invested in them. But he does not own them.

Okay. And what about the project that's currently under entitlement?

That is the one in Gilroy. Yes. Probably is outdated on our website. So I apologize for that. If it's approximately, oh my goodness, it's been a minute, 60-ish units.

I don't know. I just beat your website in the last three days.

I apologize for that. That is the story there. I entitled that project in Gilroy and we did sell it to another affordable housing developer.

Does anybody else have one or

So, looking at exhibit a, this is a question for staff. So, exhibit a, the conditions of approval. It talks about the replacement tree ratio, and it says that all trees proposed to be removed from the project site. She'll be replaced at a 1 to 1 ratio and kind of goes on to reference some of the municipal code and so on. In this staff report, it mentions that. Uh, it's a different ratio, depending on if it's a non native versus a native tree. Does that need to be consistent or is it because it's referencing the municipal code? It should be assumed.

Yeah, since it's referenced in the municipal code, it's the same way. And that's what we would follow.

Okay. That's all. Thank you. I can't make a motion.

Public public. You might do that. Yeah.

Well, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So we're going to open the public comment. Jenna, do we have anybody online before we get to the in-person audience?

I don't see any raised hands. I'd also like to remind the audience, you can email us at PCPublicComment at MorganHill.ca.gov. Okay. And I don't see, I don't see any raised hands on zoom.

Okay. How about present? No public comment. Okay. I'm going to close the public comment.

I'll make a motion to approve for the design permit with two changes to the resolution. And I that we got tonight, right? And the second one would be, I'm gonna say, tell me where to put it, Exhibit A or the Resolution itself, which says the basis of moving forward is that elevation that was shown tonight in the applicant's presentation, right? With the feedback from the Planning Commission as things to consider. Right?

Okay.

Okay. That's the two modifications to the resolution. What was the first one, Joe? The first one is in Exhibit A, way down in there, there's a technical issue on meters, and there's a question. The lawyer's got to figure out which is right. And it's in a resolution, an alternative resolution or exhibit. It was handwritten.

So there's the supplemental exhibit for Exhibit A, which is the conditions of approval. And so there was two conditions in here that the applicant claimed that they are exempt per Senate Bill 7. We've been working with our city attorney with this condition, speaking with the applicants. Both the city and the applicant both agree to add word in here that states that unless a determination is made by the city attorney that this project is exempt from this condition percent of bill 7, the condition applies and this is regards to sub meter and sub meter permits. And then the other condition that's condition number 4 condition number 5 is about the new water main installations. So those are the 2 conditions. Okay.

And the 4th 2. They're in an alternative. And the new one, which is in the resolution itself or in Exhibit A.

We can make it as an Exhibit B. Exhibit B. The revised elevation that was presented by the applicant.

To add Exhibit B as the preferred elevation with the coloring with all the feedback that the Planning Commission gave tonight and staff. Yep. That's the motion with those two changes. I'll second that.

Okay, any comment. Jenna can we do a roll call?

Yes. Chair Wilson?

Aye.

Commissioners Hubby?

Aye.

Lake?

Aye.

Muller?

Aye.

Downey?

Aye.

And Adamo?

Aye.

Motion passes 6-0-0-1.

Thank you. Before we move on to our next item on the agenda, I want to ask Edith Ramirez, our Assistant City Manager, if you want to make a statement.

On this topic or on what? On this topic.

Yes, if I may. Thank you. Good evening, Planning Commission. Before we move on, I want to just express words of gratitude to AMG. for collaborating with staff. I think that what you have in front of you and the project that you have approved tonight is something that the city should be incredibly proud of. When this project came in front of us, like four years ago or so, it was a very different project. And this was an SB 35 project. So The capacity for the city to really change the proposal was essentially limited next to none.

And we have somehow managed to be at the table with the developer and all the way right up until you saw today on requesting, pleading, begging, and doing everything we could in our arsenal to create a project that would better fit this community. So I want to make sure that we don't let this evening go without notice, both for the community to know that we recognize how fatigued we are with all the housing. We recognize the challenges that our streets have with the demand on parking. And the community should know that city staff, to the extent that is feasible and possible, we're always trying to do what we can to better those projects. And the amount of progress that happened here with this one is completely credited to Gene and his staff at AMG. So I want to thank him for that. Thank you, Commission, for the good deliberation this evening. And thank you, staff.

Thank you. I think we WENT THE WHOLE MEETING WITHOUT REALLY INTRODUCING OUR NEWEST MEMBER TO CITY STAFF, OUR NEW CITY ATTORNEY. WHO IS HERE, RIGHT? AND WE'RE WELCOME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THANK YOU.

Well, we don't have any other business. Okay. Director's report?

So director's report, as Joe alluded to, we have our new city manager here today. So welcome. I also want to mention that for June 9th, that's our next normally scheduled That meeting is canceled. So we will not have the planning commission meeting that night. However, we will have a director's hearing. So the development services director's hearing, and that will be for the Cochran DePaul Poppy Ranch development. So that's a site review or design review permit for SR260005. And that is for the corner of Cochrane and DePaul where the new proposed Sprouts grocery store and other pads are proposed. And so there was a notice put in the paper as well as online about having an administrative hearing. There was a request. We received a written request to have a public hearing. So we'll have a director's hearing on that. It will be on Zoom. And for anyone that's interested, it will be the information is posted on our website to be notified and to be involved. And there's also notices that have been mailed out to adjacent property owners as well.

So this is June 9th. It's Zoom only? Correct.

Correct.

But it's not a planning commission. No, no. But it's the director. You're going to run this public Zoom meeting for people to just a general Q&A. Is that the idea?

Yeah, it'll be given public comment. The termination will be by our development services director, Jennifer Carmen. And so we'll take input during that night. And then after consideration of all the input that's provided, we'll provide a a determination after that meeting. Okay.

Are we getting pushback on that, Roger?

The request that we received was to have a public hearing to take public comment. Okay. And it's the request was just the location. Why is it being built on that site versus across the street at Cochran Commons? Okay. But if there's additional questions about it, we can share the letter or the request that we receive.

What type of determination will be made?

It will be a determination by the director to either approve or deny or conditionally approve.

What's going on with our tractor supply?

With tractor supply, There has been funding issues that have been reported. And so we are working with Tractor Supply to see how can we assist and move that project along. So it's been solely entitled. We understand that it's a construction cost issue. Okay.

So assist with what?

Looking at a fee freeze for impact fees and all that.

And sometimes I wonder, you know, giving away money we don't have. No. Yeah. Okay.

And so anything, any fee freeze agreements that would be, that would go before the city council?

Tractor supply hasn't gotten any. Right. Okay.

Anything else? I was going to ask about the daycare center that was proposed. Oh, yeah. In the shopping center with Chipotle on the north side of Concord?

Yes.

Is that still active?

On the north side?

Yeah, in behind. It was all the way back to Woodview? Yes.

So that project is Primrose. Granton permits a few months ago. We just received the building permit today or yesterday.

Oh, okay. So it's moving forward.

Yes. Okay. Also, the for high street. Has that been released or it's going to be released Friday? The High Street is on DePaul, so it's in between Poppy Ranch, which is the Sprouts proposal, and Redwood Tech, which is the Trammell Crow project site.

Okay. Anything else? We're adjourned. Thank you, Chair.