County Commission - Regular Meeting

Mr. Chair, I move that we go out of closed session for the purpose of property acquisition and litigation. I'll second.

Okay, I have a motion by Commissioner Fracknell and a second by Commissioner Nickerson. All in favor? Aye.

Be opposed.

Okay. We'll take a short break and then we'll...

She's like, do you think I should ask her if she wants me to take the telephone?

Let's see.

Okay.

You got a sticker.

A sticker?

That didn't get you nothing.

Is that a sticker?

It's a sticker. So you actually peel off the back. It's kind of hard to peel off the back and then stick it on and then you can peel off the front as well. All that will stay is the leather.

Right there in the middle. Oh, really? Yeah.

That's pretty thin. I thought you guys might enjoy that. Thank you. This is the mic.

Where is she? What country is she in? Sorry, between here and there.

I didn't know she was in another country. She said she was in another country in another

You can email too, so I don't know.

Awesome, man. Let's go. We're here as well. Awesome. That's our agent. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.

Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. He's so nice to me.

I guess you peel one side off, rub them on, and then you peel the other side off, and all that stays is the letters. It's pretty hard to peel off at first, but then you peel the back off, and then you rub it on, and then you peel the front off, and all that stays is the letters.

Oh, it came back.

I don't care if it makes that function. I swear, I'm everywhere. Oh, I never...

They're huge traps.

Excuse me.

Raylene, where are you at? You traveling the world somewhere?

Oh, sorry. Yeah, I'm in Spain. Good for you.

You're staying up late, then, if you're in Spain.

I know. It's 1 in the morning. Oh, my. All right.

We'll make these motions as fast as we can so you can go to sleep.

All right.

She's super awake. Are you drinking?

She's going to answer on camera. No comment. Okay.

We are... You're not live yet.

Sorry.

20 seconds away.

Is it crazy there since they won the World Cup?

Oh, oh my goodness. Insane. It was insane, yeah. I was in the midst of all of it, so. Let's just say they didn't stop celebrating until five in the morning? For two nights in a row?

Well, we welcome your dedication. Thanks for being here with us. Because I wouldn't have done that.

Viva España.

OK, we're going to go ahead and start our meeting. Welcome, everyone, and those that are online. Appreciate you being here. And those that come to share their comments, we appreciate them also. We're going to have an invocation by Commissioner Nickerson. He'll also lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. And then we'll go to our consent agenda items.

Our dear Father in heaven, we are grateful for this day and for the opportunity we have to meet as a county body and to represent the people and pray that thy spirit may dwell with us, that we may have good conversation and as we discuss the needs of our communities. We are so grateful for this beautiful valley in which we live and for those who protect us and ask you to bless them who are out watching over us, that they may be safe and protected. We are so grateful for all of our many blessings for the moisture we have received and pray that we will continue to receive as much needed moisture. We are so grateful for all of our many blessings and all that we have and all that we enjoy. And we love you so much and say this in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

Amen.

Please rise and follow me in the Pledge of Allegiance.

Thank you, Commissioner. Small consent agenda item list. So I'm assuming that everybody is good with that. I will tell you that I've I've got someone that I'm waiting for a yes or no, up or down answer on the Milton area. And he would be wonderful if you guys, I'll share that with you. And if you have any influence with him, it would be helpful too. So great. Mr.

Chair, I move that we approve the consent agenda items. Second.

Okay, I have a motion by Commissioner Newton, second by Commissioner Nickerson. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay. The motion's unanimous. Any conflicts of interest, commissioners, tonight?

Okay.

Seeing none, then we'll move to our public comment section. We have one for sure online, correct?

I haven't heard of it.

Do we have anyone in our audience that has any public comment? OK, seeing none on that, we'll wait for our online public comment. Can you hear me?

Yes, we can.

Okay. Honorable Chair Wilson and honorable commissioners, my name is Kent Singleton. I am speaking to the agenda item as F1. I do not oppose lawful law enforcement protection for Wasatch Peaks or any other Morgan County property owner. I respectfully ask for this honorable commission to not extend and identified agreement until the public record is complete and clear. Morton County's records appear to describe at least two different arrangements. The November 19th, 2024 minutes approved is one arrangement. A later arrangement, June 17th, 2025 is another arrangements. Tuesday's agenda now refers generally to an interlocal agreement with Wasatch Peaks Ranch and the states that the agreement expired last year, July the 18th of 2025, while the Honorable Sheriff's Office continued providing services. Before voting, please identify the exact agreement being extended, its execution and expiration dates, the precise legal parties and the authority under which services continued after expiration. Please state whether the proposed action is prospective, retroactive, or intended to ratify services already provided. What services are continued? Who authorized them? What compensation was paid or remained due? What insurance, reimbursement, indemnification, and liability provisions governed the expired period. Please also disclose the written standards governing special contracted or enhanced sheriff's office services for private properties and developments. That question is relevant to Taggart. I do not claim that Taggart and Wasatch Peaks are factually or legally identical, and I am not asking this honorable commission to adjudicate title during three minutes of public comment. I am asking why continuing sheriff's office services can be formally arranged for one private property interest while I cannot obtain a clear written trespass enforcement position, meaningful administration review, or identification of the records instrument supporting Morgan County's competing ownership claim at Taggart. Morgan County facilitates public and commercial recreation activity associated with Taggart while telling me that I must bear the expanse of litigation before receiving meaningful clarification or protection. On July the 18th, I provided Wasatch Peaks and the property rights office detailed written notice of these concerns. Please include that communication with today's meeting record. That's time. I've got one line left. Do you want to hear it? Go ahead and finish your line. Before approving action item F1, please place the operative agreement, proposed extension, authorized records, service records, payment terms, insurance provisions, and applicable Sheriff's Office policies in the public record.

Thank you. Anyone else that has any public comment? OK. If not, we'll move to our presentations. Weber Basin Conservancy District, welcome.

Thank you. Thank you very much. We appreciate the opportunity of addressing the commission. I guess informally just to describe exactly what we're doing and what kind of programs we've got going and kind of what the water situation as a whole as well. So thank you very much for the invite.

Can you state your name and title for our clerk?

Yes, my name is Scott Paxman. I'm the general manager of Weaver Basin Water Conservancy District. Okay, so just to fill you in a little bit about Weber Basin, and I'm sure most of you know this, but there's probably some that this isn't here. So our service area covers four counties. Weaver, well, five, yeah, four counties. Davis, Weber, Summit, Morgan, and a little bit of Box Elder counties. And we serve about 725,000 people in those counties. A lot of them, especially on the Wasatch Front, but drinking water is our primary function along the Wasatch Front, as well as irrigation water, industrial water, commercial water, and so forth. Next. So there's the five counties, sorry. Okay, so we've got seven dams that we control and operate on the system. That's on the Weber River system as well as Ogden River. And it starts all the way up to Smith and Moore House launch ship. We operate Echo Reservoir, although it's not owned by our district, but we operate it. East Canyon Reservoir. Lost Creek Reservoir, Causey, Pineview, and then Willard Bay Reservoir as well. We operate and maintain three hydropower plants in the drainage, mostly attached to our dams, but also one attached to the Gateway Canal system. And we generate, for the most part, we generate most of the power we use in the district. So we only purchase that power that we absolutely have to. So these are some of the different types of water that we provide service for. I wanted to just touch on the replacement water component of those services. Since Morgan County, in Morgan County, that's kind of the primary water that we provide. So next slide. Next. So replacement water, so why do we call it replacement water and why is it provided? We call it replacement water because we're actually allowing, well, to start with, the whole drainage was closed to new appropriations back shortly around the time that our district was formulated, back in the 1960s, 50s. And so anybody that doesn't have a water right They either purchase water from someone else that has water rights, but we allow people in the watershed, if they don't have access to a municipal facility, or community water system, that they can come to us, purchase a water contract, which is basically a lease of water, and drill a well anywhere in the watershed. And once that well is drilled and begins to produce water, we're required to release that same amount of water from one of our reservoirs, the closest reasonable reservoir in our system. And we've probably got about 30,000 replacement water contracts in Morgan, Summit, upper Weaver counties that take advantage of that process. There are other entities that also do replacement water contracts, and that's Davis and River County Canal, Weaver River Water Users Association, so it's not just us, but it's anybody that has storage on the system.

Can you explain that to me again? Sure. So someone drills a well, they contract with us first.

Yes, they drill a well for let's say it's one acre foot. They drill a well and to drill that well they have to go to the state engineer and file for an exchange and they use our contract for the basis of their exchange.

So when you say release, you're not releasing it out of the dam?

Yes, we are releasing it out of the dam to make sure that no one downstream, no senior water right holders are harmed. That's basically what we're required to do. The state engineer with the river commissioner on the Weaver River, he makes sure that we're releasing that water. So he makes sure the books are balanced mostly on that replacement water.

and that's only to provide downstream that water that they would have normally had from the storage units to replace that in the... Yeah, assuming, and it's a good assumption, assuming that the surface water and groundwater are all connected

And most of the senior water right holders, primarily, are in the lower Weaver River side. So those older irrigation companies on the lower Weaver. And so that's who we're trying to make whole, is to make sure that they get their water.

So in this type of environment where we're not getting any water, do you slow down on it?

No. I mean, whatever is drawn from those wells, that's what we have to release.

But I mean issuing new.

Oh, yeah, but it's historical. It's every 30,000 contracts. So, yeah, no, I mean it has been slower just because of my next slide that will tell you what kind of costs are required for a new water right, for a new contract with Weaver Basin. So it's about almost $11,000 for one acre, not even one acre foot, for .64 or .65? .65 acre feet. So $9,750 is for an impact fee, $374 is for the annual water charge for that .65, and then we charge an inspection and a meter connection fee of $480.

So you've quadrupled that in the last few years. At least, at least.

Can I ask a question?

Sure. On those charges, the meter connection, By state law, now they have to put in a meter connection. Who comes out and reads those? So we will be coming out to read them. So you will come out to the new home wherever they ask for the permit?

Yeah. And they'll meter it? Right from the very start, the state engineer has always required measurement devices put on wells. But they've never enforced it. And about three years ago, we told the state engineer, well, we asked them, are you guys going to enforce it? If you're not, we have to enforce it because we don't know whether we really need to be releasing water or not without that accountability. So we've been making sure the meter's installed, installed correctly. We actually furnished the meter as part of that $480. And then... we ask the homeowner or the property owner to actually read the meter for us, and then we occasionally will come up and verify it. So that's what the program is.

Okay, so just to go off of this, this is for a culinary. What about for secondary water? Because that was also put into place where they had to meter it.

Who's supposed to be metering those? So on the replacement water in the Wasatch Back, it's all one. I mean, they're using the same well typically for indoor and outdoor use. So it's all metered, correct. How did they come up with 0.65? That was a long story.

Do we have Logan here?

So the board, how many years ago was that?

Three years, four years?

Three or four years ago our board We determined that we're running out of water. We don't have a lot of water left to sell. And we wanted to stretch that supply and make sure that it was beneficial to as many people as possible. So before that policy by the board, we basically sold whatever water the petitioner required or wanted. If he had 10 acres, he could come in and get 30 acre feet. Since that policy was passed, it doesn't matter whether you've got a half an acre or 10 acres or 20 acres, it's 0.65 acre feet. It's basically enough for indoor water use and a small amount for basically a garden and a small yard.

yet up here and that's that's my question is is up here most of us are on secondary water why would they need so much for a household if they don't use anything for the outside and it's all secondary water absolutely yes and they don't have to apply for 0.65 they can do something less if if they've got outdoor coverage they could probably get by with 0.25 And they're willing, or they're able to just contract for 0.25 or whatever they want. And so the yearly charge for them is now currently $374. I thought it was $700.

So that's per 0.64 acre feet. And so that price... per acre or per acre foot really hasn't changed much. But where the big change is is the impact fee. We're putting a lot of infrastructure in the ground. We're starting to replace a lot of federal infrastructure, aqueducts, canals. So we're doing a lot of major investments in infrastructure and thus the need for the impact fee.

That price is just a high amount. It is extremely high. The impact fee is super, super high, and I'm just surprised that you've got that high of a fee for impact when, I'm sorry, up here at the upper end of the Weaver Basin, we're not, we don't have any of that infrastructure we're having to put in. It's all for the lower value.

But without the infrastructure, we wouldn't have the water to provide. Because we're drilling wells, we're also raising dams. We raised Willard Bay by two feet, which gave us another 20,000 acre feet of water to sell. Without those projects, we wouldn't have water to even provide replacement water contracts at all. So the impact fee, it's really to benefit everybody in the entire watershed.

Can you give me the thought process on draining Pine View in this type of a season?

Yeah, yeah. That's Ogden City. Ogden City is the one that required us to drain. And it was probably recorded, but I told them over my dead body. I mean, that's ridiculous. Why would you ever drain a reservoir, especially on a year like this? Yeah. And they showed me a contract, 1954 contract and 1970 contract, It was signed by Weaver Basin, Pineview Water Users, the Bureau of Reclamation, and Ogden City. Because Ogden City had a whole well field down in the bottom of the reservoir, artesian wells, that had to be moved as part of the Pineview project, raising the Pineview Dam. over a barrel. So they basically agreed to dictate that Ogden City could ask for the dam to be drained so that they can inspect or replace that water line. So they had the wells, plus they have a water line that goes right through the bottom of the reservoir. And that's what they're planning on replacing is that water line. And that agreement basically allowed them to do that at any time.

And we can't wait a year?

They could. They don't want to. Wow. And I don't know if there is a good year, honestly. Next year, hopefully our reservoirs are full. Then we'd have to drain all of the water. And most of that we could not even save. We couldn't catch. This year, we're trying to save. We have what we call an exchange agreement with the lower irrigation companies that we can deliver their water out of Pineview or Willard. and keep their water up in Echo and East Canyon. So we're doing quite a bit of that so that we can preserve the water in the system and still be able to operate next year. So yeah, that's a good question.

I just have one other question and then I'll shut up. I worry about the, we always have the lake effect. So I'm just sitting here thinking, we're never gonna have the lake effect again that I can see. Well, not to the same degree, yes. And so no lake effect, no snow, less lake effect, less snow, less, less, less. It seems like to me, maybe I'm- It feels like it, absolutely.

I told my staff, I'm still on the opinion that we're in a bad part of the cycle. And that at some point it's going to turn around and we're going to start getting some wetter cycles. I don't know. It's my best excuse of what we're in. But it feels like it's climate change. And we're seeing temperatures just rise, rise, rise. We're seeing water levels and water consumption going up, up, up. And it is not an easy thing to deal with. So when our reservoirs are full, and Darren will get into this a little bit, but when they're completely full, we have a two-year water supply. That's it. It seems like a lot, but that's not much. And so we're always looking at, okay, what happens if the next year, what happens if 27 is the same as 26? we're basically going to have enough water for a drinking water supply, period. We won't have any irrigation. That was a possibility in 22 as well. And then it started raining that spring. And so we relaxed some of the restrictions. But the drier these years get, the more likely that scenario is going to happen, which I just can't believe. Okay, I'm gonna turn some time over to Darren to talk about where we're at on Larsen Lake.

Okay, thanks Scott. Darren has AGM over operations for the district. So, next slide. So that was a good segue into our water supply. You can see we've got the graphs there of the different reservoirs. We've selected four of them there. You can see Pine View top left, the black line is current, blue line is average, and the red line is 2025. So you can see Pine View's taking a nosedive, and that's largely because of Ogden City's project. But also it is, you know, a lot of water use has taken place because you can see the other reservoirs as well. East Canyon, Echo, and then Wonship, Rockport, all below, you know, the average in 2025, quite a bit below. So we know we're in a, you know, we're in the drought cycle, as Scott mentioned. And yeah, it's not good as far as our reservoir levels are concerned. So next slide. So then there's the snowpack or the snow tail hydrograph from this last year. That's basically a compilation of all the years and that black line is this last year. You can see when you combine all those previous years, uh is that red line and so that's the worst we've ever seen until this last year and then you can see what the black line has done to set the record unbelievably so uh this last year so statistically we hope it's impossible to have another year like that where we're setting records um And forevermore, that will be the record now for all the combined years of snow hydrographs will be 2025. And that's, I mean, 2026. That's what we're going to see. We usually call it the second half of the seasons of 2026. The previous year, the blue line there is 2025, and then the green line, a little bit lighter, is the average. So you can see how much lower we were from 2025, and that was just an average year. And then you got the massive year there in the blue, and much of that was 2023. So did have an amazing year stuck in there between all these dry years. So next slide. So this is our precip accumulation in the basin. You can see there the black line is tracking, I mean, fairly well with 2025. It is below the average. And let's just go to the next slide. We can see, so this is our soil moisture. This is something we've really been monitoring probably just the last 15 years or so as we've had a lot of probes installed up in the watershed. But you can see there with the black on the left side of your screen how high that is above the green line, which is the average line, and how those October rains on the far left side of that graph in October, those rains really set us up nicely for soil moisture. And we were really set up for a really nice runoff because the fall period is critical to set the snow year up that we have moisture in the soil. And so, but as we know, the moisture never came in the winter time, even though we were set up for a great runoff. And then you can just see how quickly that soil moisture has dissipated there on the right side of the graph. Next slide. So these are the weather forecasts. This is for July. We know we've had a few monsoon storms around. Some have dropped heavy rain throughout the state, and we know there's been reports of flooding that have taken place. Beaver has had a ton of flooding take place, which has been exacerbated by the wildfire that they had down there. they're really struggling down there. But you can see the temperature outlook warmer than usual. And our monthly precip does look like it's wetter or above average, which is positive. And I know we have seen some monsoons up in this area too in the UNS and whatnot, which has been positive. Next slide. So these are our district storage volumes, and this is an important slide. Like Scott mentioned, when we get, you know, basically our average runoff, that's typically, and our total storage is good for a two-year supply. Our district capacity is over 400,000 acre feet. In an annual, in a, average year we typically get about 200 000 acre feet that we will store in district facilities you can see there 2020 21 22 25 and 26 that they've all been quite a bit below average 21 was extremely low 2020 low and then 2026 extremely low as well In fact, it's impressive that 26 is that high, but a lot of that storage was in Willard Bay that just came down through the system. But that's why we're struggling really since 2020. Other than 2023, it's been a fairly dry pattern.

Okay, next slide. Where was 23 just more or less? Do you know that number?

So 23, we filled all of our reservoirs. And so, yeah.

So it was way up at the 400 mark?

Well, over 200,000. Okay. You know, 400 is of new. Yep. So usually we get half of that new storage in an average year. And we, I mean, we delivered upwards of 600,000 acre feet to the Great Salt Lake in 23. We basically emptied Pine View twice. So we ran that much water through Pine View. We could have filled it three times. So in 2023, the snowpack was just unbelievable. I'm sure up in this valley as well, but up in Ogden Valley, I mean, those people were digging out six, seven feet on the flat, right, at those elevations. I'm sure you guys were similar.

All of this is from the evaporation on the Salt Lake. What's that? It's just all from evaporation?

Pretty much. Two million acre feet evaporate off the Great Salt Lake every year. Two million acre feet. If we were to release all of our water out to the Great Salt Lake from our reservoirs when they're full, it would last three months out there. Because it's just, it's a plate, right? It's just a plate. It's not a bowl, you know? So, yeah, if we released all of our water, it would last three months out there. So, yeah. So we have challenges, yeah, on the Great Salt Lake. So these are our drought level triggers whenever we're in a drought, which has been fairly recent, fairly often lately. We did this about seven, eight years ago. We combined with the Bureau of Reclamation, we did a study, and these are the drought levels and the drought level triggers that we came up with throughout that study. And we did it not just with Weaver Basin, but with a lot of cities along the Wasatch Front that participated in this study. So what we try to do is we project our June 1st storage, what that's going to be in our reservoirs. And that was about 350,000. We project that in March, what that number is going to be. And then we go to the drought level trigger on the right side of that graph and see where we're going to be. So you can see total storage wise, 350 000 puts us right in that severe category upper basin storage that's subtracting off willard bay we were 240 000 acre feet which puts you in the moderate category and then if you look at both that moderate and severe if you go to that next slide please um That shows that the reduction targets, if we're in the moderate category of response level three, we would have a 20% reduction in secondary water, ag, and then M&I culinary outdoor water, and then a 5% reduction in the culinary indoor water. If we were in the severe category, we would do 40, 30, 40, 10. And that's what we did in 2022, the 40, 30, 40, 10. We were going to start at extreme, but like Scott mentioned, it started raining in the spring of 22. And after a couple of months, we were able to relax to severe. But we recommended the moderate category for our board minus the 5% reduction in the indoor water. We felt like with our storage from the previous two years, we felt like we could do okay in that moderate category. So that was, next slide. That's the recommendation we made to our board, staff did, and then the board agreed with that. So those are the reductions throughout the watershed with the 0% on the indoor water. And then we loaded the system May 1st, and we asked for no watering until May 15th. And we're actually shutting the system down September 15th, not October 1st. So two weeks earlier than that, we're going to go September 15th and shut the system down. So... Those months on either side, cutting those off, I know a lot of people don't agree with doing that, but we felt like that's what we had to do to try to trim some of the use that's out there. Okay, next slide. And then these are the programs that Weber Basin involved in. I know it's kind of small on that far right side, but these are different programs the district participates in to really help folks and educate folks on how much water they're using on their own landscapes. A lot of folks don't realize when they irrigate their water, use the irrigation system one time, 3,000 to 4,000 gallons they're throwing out there on their landscape on a quarter acre lot. So you have an acre lot or whatever, multiply that by four, that's a lot of water that you're throwing out there on your turf. And so a lot of people don't realize how much water they're using. And that could be equivalent to your indoor use in a month. So the outdoor use is where we really have to. What's that? One cycle of your irrigation sprinklers will use more water than you use in a month indoors. You know, like if your family's four or five folks. Yeah. So people don't really realize how much water they're spraying out there with 70 PSI. And that's a lot of water, 3,000 to 4,000 gallons. So our learning garden, we have our learning garden there at our facility in Layton. We have all the public education programs that we're invested in, and they're listed there. We have the secondary metering program. We've done a ton of that over the last, Weaver Basin's been doing it since 2009. We were kind of the first to start that program. And then the state and everybody jumped on board the last three years or so and helped fund that. And then irrigation product rebates. So we have those as well. But really, we're just trying to educate the public on how much water they're using.

So what's the trade-off, though, between Xeroscape and having...

yard be hotter than a pistol that's right and not producing any any moisture going up into the area i mean what's the trade-off there too yeah i mean there's a balance right between those two there's definitely a balance and uh you know definitely as we move as far as new landscapes and move forward we're not saying you can't have any turf we would recommend a low water use turf you know, a Tahoma 31 that still is turf, but it's low water use. It takes probably 70% less water than a Kentucky bluegrass, you know, that's really not meant to be in these desert environments. I mean, in July, you gotta put a lot of water on Kentucky bluegrass for it to look green. And so it's just really not meant for these really arid environments that we're in. But the Tahoma 31 is a really good product that Weber Basin is pushing hard now. We've got a lot of folks interested in that product. Chan Share Farms is actually growing that product and supporting that. And so now it's a warm season grass, so it likes it warm. So on the shoulder seasons, it's not going to be as green as a Kentucky bluegrass when Kentucky bluegrass likes the cooler weather. So it's going to be May 1st, May 15th before it really starts to green up. Whereas Kentucky bluegrass is green in April, you know, so there's a trade off there. But I mean, this is used in athletic fields throughout the south, southwest It's a really durable product. And so it's a balance. We're not saying that we want to look like Tucson with all of our new landscaping. Yeah, the heat island effect and everything that you're talking about, I think we got to be careful with. We don't necessarily want that here in Utah. So we have to balance that out. But I think a low water use turf is the way to go, warm season grass. Okay, and I think that's my last slide. So I'll turn it over to Scott.

So just to add on to that a little bit, we don't even allow people to put down just gravel or just concrete or if they're replacing turf. We require that 30% of that landscape area has to have some ground cover, some plant life, plant material. And most of the cities that we've been dealing with are also writing ordinances that require that as well. So, because that's real.

So what is better, irrigation or sprinkler?

Better for who? Let's see.

Better for retaining water, because irrigation goes right back in the ground.

Right, yeah, flood irrigation is effective, especially up here in Morgan Valley, where You've got to build up that groundwater anyway just to get your plants to survive. And then because it's so gravelly, so porous, flood irrigation is probably the only way you're going to be able to really grow a good crop. In other areas where there's a lot of clay, sprinkler irrigation is great because you don't have to put as much water down for a high yield crop. So it kind of depends. While we were here, If I've got time, I wanted to touch on the tax, the increased property tax that we were going to do in the district this year. Next. So why property tax? Why does the district collect property tax? Well, the district, when we became the sponsor of the federal project, the federal Weber Basin project, required a vote of the people to pass a property tax so that we could repay the federal government for the entire project, which we are still paying on that project. 75 years later. Why so long? Why so long? Just because it was so expensive. And we only paid for the components that were completed at the time they were completed. So Willard Bay was one of the last ones completed, and that was in the mid to early 60s. So they were 40-year, basically 40-year contracts, but we borrowed money against it to rebuild the Gateway Canal and other things that have extended that deadline. So we've actually...

So is there a payoff date on this, or is it more a revolving line of credit, so to speak?

No, so we've actually paid the federal government off, but we've replaced it with some bonding that... that we keep refreshing.

So those are revenue bonds then based on your collections?

Correct. And so is Willard Bay basically the, I mean, that's the end of the water system, basically. And once it gets to a certain level, do you have to put it back into the Great Salt Lake? Is that how that works? Or does it come back in pumps and everything else?

It's an off-stream reservoir, so it's not like we have to do anything. We can send water to the reservoir. We can pull it back from the reservoir, back to the river. But on good years, that's exactly what we do. We send water out until it's full, and then we dump it out the other side of Willard to the Great Salt Lake just to maintain fresh water body.

Because some people have mentioned to me, why are we sending it down there and it never gets to the Great Salt Lake? And that's the question that a lot of people have. I mean, why should we conserve our water or why should we rent it to the Great Salt Lake or lease it to them if it's not really gonna get down there? Not sure what the question is. The question is,

is it getting to the Great Salt Lake? Well, it's actually getting there faster if we can get it through Willard than going through the lower Weber River, which is chock full of Phragmite and other things that just stall the water out and just allow it to evaporate faster. So we think going through Willard makes more sense than just leaving it in the river. And that's another argument. for evaporation on the Great Salt Lake, we think it makes more sense to hold as much of that water in upstream reservoirs where the evaporation rate is much lower, probably half, than sending it down to the Great Salt Lake and have them evaporate quicker. So that's the idea.

So you're saying that when that's paid off, the taxes then will be reduced, that's what you're saying?

Correct, yes. Unless they do another revenue bond. So yes. But they're written right in the contract that a portion of that contract is for the repayment of the federal contract, the federal government. So yes, that portion of it is removed. But it's fairly minimum, actually. Okay, back to property tax. The biggest thing I wanted to get to is it does help secure our debt and lower our interest rates. So we are a triple A bond rating and a lot of it has to do with our ability to collect property tax. And what do we use that money for? Well, other than repaying the federal government, there's a lot of public good that goes to everyone in the watershed that whether they're using any water or not, they benefit from that. So one of them is we release almost 90,000 acre feet from our reservoirs for fish flows, for the bird refuges, and that was built right in the federal contract with the Bureau of Reclamation. So that annual value is about $42 million, which is significant. We'd love to have that water back, actually. But it's an obligation that we have to meet. Flood control is another one that we are responsible for. From October 1st to April 1st, Weber Basin controls every reservoir on a flood control basis. First, our priority is to make sure we see that the reservoirs are full, but then we've gotta make sure that we're protecting land and people downstream. And then recreation, conservation programs, some of that is funded out of the property tax, next. Disaster mitigation, we contribute a fair amount of funds to the wildlife mitigation funds on public lands, most of that is forest service. Let's see, drought mitigation, watershed protection, involved in all of those things that are very important to us and to all the people that live in the watershed. Okay, next. Mayor Mrakas, So our step statutory rate is triple oh two, which is allowed by code, which is the lowest statutory rate of any any water conservancy district in the state. Mayor Mrakas, In 26 it's kind of declined, I think we raised our our our. recovered our property tax about three years ago. So currently it's a 000187. We're proposing to get back into the 0002 to basically afford to do some of the projects that we've outlined as well as, and most of it is operation and maintenance of the federal project. Mayor Mrakas, So we have a different planning horizon than most public agencies cities counties they're looking at 510 years we're always looking at a 50 to 75 year horizon, because you know we've got it we've got a plan decades for any new projects or any. Mayor Mrakas, Especially water development projects which there aren't many left and all the all the easements are gone so it's it's going to take years and years.

Mayor Mrakas, Next.

So this is what we collect in property tax. About 19 and a half percent of our budget is property tax. So our total projected property tax, 27,675,000 and that's kind of split up as you see on the right hand side there. Next. Let's go one more. So depending on which county you live in is how the property tax is assessed. But like for Morgan County, this is probably typical. I don't know what your typical or average home value is, but is it? OK, there you go. $786,000. That increase would go from $80.84 to $86.46. So it would increase, and annually increase, by $5.62. That's what we're proposing. So just in case you get questions.

How is that determined?

I mean, you've got the different counties that cost different amounts.

How is that all determined?

It's based on their average household. All based on the average household?

That's our average residential home.

Summit County is paying $200 a year. Yeah, a year. $200 more a year.

But their average property is almost $2 million. $2 million. Yeah. Morton County, our average home is only 7.

And a lot of that is as a result of Washoe's Peaks and some of the other large, very expensive developments that kind of kicked that up. But either way, the average residence, one more slide, is looking at 0.15% increase on your total property tax bill. So that's, so whatever your property tax is, or your property is valued at, it's .15%. Okay, that's all I had on our proposed property tax increase. Do you have any questions?

Yeah, so how much of the increase goes towards increase in wages and salaries?

None.

None?

None. So all of the property tax, first priority is the federal project. So continue to pay the federal project, operation maintenance of the federal project and replacement now is becoming a bigger and bigger issue of the federal facilities only. And then conservation, a portion of the conservation is out of that pocket and that's about it. Okay. Everything else is rate covered.

So I know back when We're Racing was formed, and the Central Utah project was formed, You guys were, I don't know, 20 minutes later. Not you guys, we were. We were 20 minutes too late. And so because of that, Provo River or the Central Utah Project gets all the water they need before it comes to us. Is there anything to do about that? Because I know Rockport never fills anymore. because they want to take it down to Deer Creek. And until their reservoirs are full, we don't get our water.

So just a little misnomer. So Echo was minutes before Provo or before Deer Creek. So Echo has to fill first or is projected to fill before Provo gets water. But the Weber Basin project was the very last, and it's the junior right on the entire river. We don't fill at all until those two reservoirs are full. But the dilemma is we don't seem to ever fill Deer Creek. That's right. They make sure that we don't. They have rights in Utah Lake that they try to say that they're trying to cover. And it's so frustrating. It is super frustrating. And we've talked with legislators. We've talked with the Bureau of Reclamation trying to. especially the Bureau, because the Bureau of Reclamation is the title holder of all these federal projects. We're saying all we're asking is a fair, yeah, a fair shake, that's it. And we're not getting anywhere yet. We're not giving up, but yeah, we hope so.

Okay, anything else?

Thank you. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

Okay, appreciate you coming. That was very informative. USU Extension.

Trenton.

Welcome.

Thank you very much. Thanks for having me today. While I talk of water, I'm a little thirsty right now.

Just joking.

Okay, so my name is Trenton Wilson, and it's Wilson with two L's for the record, if that matters.

I'm really good at misspelling names.

That's okay. It happens all the time. I am related to the 1L Wilsons in some capacity.

You're a 1L Wilson? I'm a 1L.

I actually did know somebody from Morgan a long time ago, 1L Wilson, so maybe you probably know her or are related somewhere.

Kelly, Kyle, Robbie.

Oh, no. Don't know Stacy.

Yeah, that was back in college a long time ago.

All right. So again, my name is Trenton Wilson. I am a program specialist through the Utah State University Extension's Rural Online Initiative. You may have heard of us before. I am new to this area. I moved up from Richfield up to Logan just a month ago, and so we shuffled counties around. I now cover all of the top rural counties in Utah, and I used to be down in the central area. But what our program well, I'll start out first of all with the annual report which is up here right now I'm not going to go through everything there, but just give a little bit of background I've been with the program since 2018 since before remote work was cool We started the program to help rural counties one, maintain their youth as the youth get into high school, helping them recognize that they can stay in their rural counties. There are opportunities for them to find work. A lot of them still go off and go to school find jobs work in this big city for a while but that's that's one of the things that was was part of it but also unemployment rates are a lot higher in rural counties the economic diversity the opportunities in rural counties are a lot different You guys probably have a lot of people commuting down into the valley. So they leave here and there's wear and tear on the cars. There's all sorts of stuff. There's traffic. So there's a lot of benefits to remote work. But last year we kind of created an umbrella system, which is the CREDIT program. So you can maybe go to the next page there. So CREDIT is, and I will have to read this because it's a long acronym. It's the Center for Rural Economic Development and Emerging Technologies. So that's kind of the umbrella program over all that we do. We have several different courses and programs that we teach. So first of all, our flagship one was the workforce development arena where we teach people how to work from home. So that's the remote work certification course. That's what I teach. That's my role. But we help people with their careers, help them find job opportunities working from home and so that is that's a great course we have we also teach a leadership course which is geared to the companies who would like to manage remote teams or who already do manage remote teams and that's a great resource for professional students because these are companies that know about our program they know how to manage remote teams and so we can refer our students to those we have a list of these companies that we we know are remote friendly and it helps a lot of people we get all so our biggest demographic for our course is usually stay-at-home moms that's about 70 percent of the 70 to 75 percent of our students are stay-at-home moms. Our second biggest demographic are people who are close to retirement or retired, who would like to continue to earn a little bit of money. And then we're scattered throughout the rest of the demographics. But we also do a business development portion. We have an e-commerce accelerator program. And what that program is for, most of these are funded through the state legislature, but our e-commerce accelerator program is where we have a couple consultants who teach, who help businesses, either agriculture businesses, so agriculture could be anywhere in the state, or rural businesses create e-commerce website so if if there's businesses in your communities that need help with their website uh usu currently if they apply it is we do have a really long waiting list and we've been trying to get additional funding to make it so we can get more consultants and more people on this team but we have quite a few we've we've helped a lot of businesses increase their their sales by giving them an e-commerce website. And that's currently a free program. And then we have a lot of community development and capacity building. So this is sort of a new thing that under the credit umbrella we are doing. This is where we support communities and leaders in helping them with grants or with both economic development as well as workforce development. So that kind of brings me, well let me, since we're on the annual report, we have had a lot of success in this program. We've had over 800 people in placements in jobs through the time that we've been doing this. Now that doesn't seem like a ton, but if you think about rural counties, most of those placements are rural county jobs. And so that translates to probably about, I think it's listed in there, over 80,000 jobs created if it were on the Wasatch Front. Let's see, so one of the things that I'm here mostly for is just to talk about, make sure that you guys know about our program so that you can support it. We often come into communities and do information meetings in person where we talk to your community members residents in the communities and help them know about opportunities for remote work. But the other thing is, and we can kind of jump to a couple of the grant things, and I recognize that you probably already have a place for the RCG and the RCOG grants. If you've already done those, that's great. We just wanted to make sure that you knew that we want to help support communities, counties, and municipalities. The RCOG grant was recently renamed the Rural Community Opportunity Grant. meaning that your towns and cities in the county can also apply for that grant now. The $200,000, most counties have already kind of figured out what they wanted to do with that. We've got places for it. But we do have expertise and we actually have great connections within the Go-Ed board in order to help people with the grants. We have actually seen that workforce development is kind of a priority with some of these grants. And we've also seen where communities or counties have applied for, you know, we need better lamps on our main street. that's really not much of an economic development thing might help things look pretty but as far as economic development goes that's not something that the board is really keen on they really love workforce development based on what we've heard based on some of the grants that have been given and based on talking with people on the board so We want to offer support letters, we want to offer grant writing reviews, whatever it is, so as you're going for these grants, particularly the RCG or RCOG in the future, if you already got those taken care of, but in the future, if you apply for those, just make sure that we're happy to support you through our program and through any others. And then again, just help us promote our courses, our resources for your communities and for the people that live here. So that's all I have. Do you guys have any questions for me?

How hard is it to get into the remote professional line certification?

So in the course, the course is really easy to take the course. But to be able to find work afterwards, there are people that struggle. So it depends on what your skill level is. But at the end of the course, so I've been a career coach for over 15 years. So when I work with people, they actually get a career coach. They take the course. They have full access to me if that's what they want. I can help them with their resumes. I can help them with their interview. Our whole team is well-trained with all of that. So we will help people as much as they want help. We do get a lot of people that go through the course, and then we never hear from them again. We do reach out occasionally and say, how are things going? If you need any help, let us know. And there are a lot of people that will take us up on that. There are still a lot of remote jobs out there. We hear in the media that all of these big companies, Twitter and Microsoft and all of these big companies are pulling back and you have to work in the office. Those are just some of the big companies that do it.

There's still a lot of companies that hire.

I mentioned the list of remote friendly companies on our website. There's over 50 companies that we've listed and they're all good companies. so there's a lot of opportunity as far as the skills go to be able to qualify for those jobs that's something i will point out that we are developing a couple ai courses so that's a that's a skill that people need to know we're also going to create a durable durable skills course and that's for a lot of the times we get people who want to take our course but they don't have any computer skills we're creating a course that's just going to help them get those computer skills to be able to take our course and then be able to get a job.

Are they jobs that are full-time that provide benefits, too?

Most of them are, yes. Interesting. Oh, yeah. So I think it's more common to find a full-time job remote than it is a part-time job. A lot of the times people want that flexibility of remote work. There are three ways to work remotely one is start a business two is working as a freelancer That's going to be the most flexible thing if you have a skill that you can go out and find Contracts that you can do little little jobs here and there that's what people think when they are like I want that flexible job for remote work. They're thinking contractor Freelance jobs, but then there are also the w-2 They tell you when you work, how you work, give you a schedule, these are your jobs, et cetera. So there's a lot of great opportunities that way. That's gonna be the most common way to find a job is through W-2 type work.

So if somebody wants to find out about it, do they go to the website or do they go to you or who did they go to?

So the easiest website to remember is remoteworkcertificate.com. Okay, so it's here. And I believe that's on, so you'll find that on our annual report. There's also a flyer that I can leave a few of those. But the website is, yeah, the easiest way to remember it is remoteworkcertificate.com. If you do forward slash pro, that takes you right to the professional course for the people that are looking for jobs. And so they can talk to a person then, not just a- Yeah, our contact information is on our website. Even my personal cell phone and my email is on the website. So if people need to contact me, USU gives me a stipend for my phone. So unfortunately, my personal phone number is out there online. Thank you. You're welcome. Any other questions?

I don't think so. Sorry, I spelt your name wrong.

That's OK. It is super common. All right, thank you.

All right, thanks, Trenton.

This was very helpful. Thank you. Thank you, Trenton. Appreciate it. OK, that is the end of our presentations. Is anyone here for the F4 Flagship Homes Development Agreement part portion? Anyone here for that? OK. All right. You can go ahead and make a motion to postpone on that then.

Mr. Chair, I move that we postpone F4 to the August 4th.

Or do we have to have a public hearing? It's not a public hearing. Oh, the F4. Can't cancel on the 5th, too. OK, go ahead.

Mr. Chair, I move that we postpone item F4 to the August 4th commission meeting. Second the motion.

I have a motion by Commissioner Nickerson, second by Commissioner Newton. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Oh, you're still with us. Mr.

Chair, can I make just a comment on that? Yeah. In reading the proposed development agreement, to me, they're a long ways off from where I'd like to be. I would suggest they schedule a work session to discuss that. And just for their information or for planning's information, the request to reduce commercial to zero to me is a complete non-starter. You shouldn't be town center zone if you don't want commercial. So if they don't want any commercial, they should come ask for a rezone of all the property And if not, then they need to work that out in some way, form, or fashion.

I think that what they, within the materials it was talking about between them and the Gardner development, needed to be.

It was, but it doesn't indicate how much is actually moving over. And I'm fine if that's the case. If they're going to take their 35% and move it into a different area, the entire 35%, OK, cool.

but if it's this we don't know exactly how much is moving or anything else and that to me that's not acceptable so i i might be able to shed a little bit of light on that um because i talked to both gardner and um no i can't now i'm trying to think who it was it wasn't you maybe it was no it was josh i talked to josh so because unless something's changed gardner told me they weren't taking in any of theirs and josh told me that within the agreement they can use other things other than commercial for that type of stuff and that's what they're trying to do so

I think it might be wise to have a- I think we need to discuss with them because if it comes for a decision right now, I'd be at absolute no based on what's here. Now, maybe when they come and present, they would present something a little more persuasive, but town center zoning has this very clear commercial requirement. They need to be providing that in some form or fashion. You know, the rationale that, oh, it's a long ways from the rest of the commercial, to me, doesn't hold water. Sorry. We have commercial in other parts of the county that are a long way from other commercial. And they work just fine.

I think it was more of, from what Josh said, the amenities and how much area they put in single-family dwellings versus that. So anyway, I'm just passing along one.

We haven't approved the text amendment to TC Zone that allows them to trade that.

That was approved.

Josh said yes. Josh said yes.

No, that was a while ago.

It was a few, it was a little while back where it allows the joint development plans.

Because Janet's been working on the one that allows them to trade like

open space ball fields whatever within the tc for some of their commercial space i think that they're well and janet will be here a little bit later but i i believe that there's some of that in the one that's already been passed and and maybe the other text amendment is just to provide more parameters she said she was going to send something out but i'm assuming since she saw the postponement she let off the gas pedal okay

But to me, it's just frustrating.

I agree with Mike on this as well. Go ahead. Sorry, I agree with you, Mike. When I read through it, it's like they were asking a lot. And yeah, they had some great amenities, but they need some more open space. If you look at how many? 267 units? Yeah, 267 units. And hardly any open space, to me, it looked like anyway.

I don't like the town center has now become the townhouse zone. That's not what it was intended to be. It was intended to be a commercial zone with some mixed-use residential, and it's turned into we're going to build townhouses everywhere.

But it is mixed-use. It is mixed-use, though, and so there's no requirement for single-family, and I think I think there's probably more to the story, which is why we wanted to pull it. Yeah, we definitely do.

I just wanted to make the comment so that they don't come in with this exact same proposal and think that, be surprised when we're not giddy about approving it immediately. That's all I guess I was trying to do is just give them something to think about and work on the next couple of weeks.

Janet, do you think they'd be open to a work session next meeting?

Do we have availability?

I believe so. That's a great question.

I believe they'd be a lot more open to it if it was also an action item. Yeah, I mean, it could be both.

If it can be both, then I think. And that might be a better idea, because I don't think you guys are getting the big picture. Documents you guys did get were really rough drafts. And so they aren't accurate.

Yeah, I mean, if there's a bigger plan here we're not seeing, great. Then they need to present that to us, and that's great. But I think it would be better in a work session where we can really discuss.

Yeah, I think that's a great idea, as long as it's action item as well. OK.

Thank you. Okay, F1. Oh, yeah. Sheriff Stark.

Thank you so much. Have a good night.

All right, I was under the impression, I didn't realize our contract had expired months ago. Yep. Kate called me. We called Wasatch Peace.

So if you can address some of Mr. Singleton's issues and also as you present this, and maybe Garrett, could you also?

So as for any insurance purposes, it falls back on the county because they are doing overtime shifts for the county, for us, that we're in an agreement with Wasatch Pigs for the roads.

The other thing is it is a special services agreement, not an interlocal agreement. I think sometimes there's some confusion because there are the road and fire district and there's also the, oh, I know there's another one. It's for like the culinary, the utility district. So there's two districts up at the Wasatch Peaks that we have entered interlocal agreements with, but this is not an interlocal because it's with the ranch club LLC. So it's a special services agreement.

They also are paid in full. They have been continuing to pay just as the county sheriff's office has continued to provide services. And the mention of the June 17th, 2025 meeting, that had nothing to do with this. That was your agreement that you entered into between Wasatch Peace Ranch Road and Fire District and the county providing the staffing for the fire. It had nothing to do with this agreement.

Okay. Wasatch Peaks and myself was unaware that this was expired. So we was doing business as usual, sending them bills every month. They was paying their bill every month. They was unaware until we called them and said, hey, this is expired. Drafted up a new one. Instead of doing six or eight months, I think we're gonna try a year now.

So do we need to retroactively ratify anything?

It's not uncommon for an agreement to expire and go month to month. I mean, that happens very frequently. Correct.

That just wasn't how the original was written. And to answer that question, this is an extension of the contract that was approved November 18th of 2024. It was an eight-month contract. Hence, it expired July 18th of 2025, as the sheriff stated. It did... continue business as usual no one caught the fact that it had expired um if you look at section uh let's see for the term section five sub three, this agreement will remain in effect for a period of eight months from date of signing and may be canceled upon 30 days written notice to the other party. I think it was a misunderstanding that that was just in perpetuity until there was a 30 days written notice to either party. And I don't know. so i can see both ways why they thought it it was still an active um service what did you call it special services agreement um but your mean county manager who likes everything in writing um disagreed and asked that it be put back in writing to answer the question about retroactive

the agreement that's on for tonight is going forward so we'll have a new effective date it it says 12 months and and we'll need you to kind of talk about the changes from what was in the packet because i think the packet one was the old one so we'll need no this is the one i was given so this one's going to be the exact same all the wording is the same except for it's going to be commencing today and starting today and it's not going to say eight months

It says 12 months.

So 12 months commencing July 21st of 2026. And then Section 5.3, I'm assuming, was updated as well.

12 months.

12 months. And then after that, continuing month to month.

Then we'll sit down and see what services they need.

So... Section 5-3.

So how do we catch that this next time?

So that is a great question. So the reason this was caught is I have a lovely intern Val Wild, one of the Wild kids. And part of the projects, one of the projects I had her working on was pulling every agreement that the county had back to 2010 and when it expires. So we had only got back to 2025, but in our records keeping system, We've added an additional column that we can put what date it expires. And we've also created a calendar that Jeremy has, Chloe has, Leslie has, I have, and Garrett has access to that has those expiration dates in the calendar. So it should trigger a calendar notice 120 days in advance of the term. So that's how this was caught in the first place.

And to address one more thing, Kent Singleton, so taggart road we we patrol that we still patrol that that's a public roadway so this agreement is just for the roadway so if we have a criminal activity but one of the houses or one of the stores up there we still have to investigate that's just because it's in our county

I was saying, so to the corrections to what's in the packet is section one, it's going to change to 12 months commencing today's date. And section five three, we're changing eight months to 12 months from date of signing, correct?

Yes.

The amount is the same? It is. So that doesn't take into account prices of fuel and all that? Or are we recouping our costs? We're still recouping our costs.

OK. Any other questions? Anything else, Garrett? OK. I'll look for a motion to move.

Mr. Chair, I move that we approve The agreement extension between Morgan County Sheriff and Wasatch Peaks Ranch. With the amendments. With the amendments discussed this evening.

Thank you. Second. I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Fackrell. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion is unanimous.

I'll get those corrections in. Oh, you already have them? I do. Awesome. And I'll get a scanned copy, too, tomorrow. Thank you.

Chief Wilks?

So just a little background, another house cleaning item. We were going through assets, county assets. When this, the Can-Am that was previously used for the purposes of emergency management was purchased, it was purchased with sheriff's office funds, but it was convoluted because at that time, that's back when Austin was kind of 50% and 50%, so it was hard to kind of follow the money trail of whose can-am it actually was, and it's the sheriff's office. So it also has sheriff's office equipment on that that would not be allowable for use by the emergency management. So being that they have taken that back and moved that under their asset list, that leaves emergency management, and you also use this for what, swift water and other things like that, a need for And apparently if we ever need vehicles, Chief Wilts is really good at getting.

Scroungers, what that's called.

Yeah, bomb prices. So, sorry, just a little background on how this came to be.

So, go ahead and then I'll ask questions afterward.

So I'm just wondering why we always are doing this before budget time. Why don't we just put this in budget?

We did not know that the UTV they were using wasn't.

But we're two months from budget time. How much do you use it?

This one will be used.

OK, what about the other one? How much does the sheriff use it? I just get tired of spending money outside of our budget system.

The big thing is we're going through it right now. The need for, I'm sure the sheriff can speak, is the fair, we're through the fourth, but to get around. But this one that we're asking for is really through the fire season. It's not going to end my life, but the ATV that was purchased, not by me, has a pump in it. It fell out two times. It came right out. It broke brand new mount bolts. It's not built to carry a fire pump. We have to have that to get into half of the places we have a fire. We were just trying to get it in Hogsback. We had a lightning strike two weeks ago that was burning, and the pump came out going through a stream. We couldn't get brush trucks into it. I mean, I'm not going to feed you a line of crap about the amount of time, but when I need it with the fire pump in, there's really no alternative. We've still got two months of fire season, if not more. And I get it. I understand, Commissioner. But this one was, like, this is almost $5,000 off retail.

So how much can you bring out of your budget to help with it? You're always asking for the full amounts. That's what's crazy about this. Why can't you look at your budget and say, we can cut back on this, that, or the other. But we have given so much stinking money to the fire department in the last three years, I just can't even tell you how many times I saw void here. And it's just like one after another after another after another. And it's a ton of money. And you guys never say, we can cover this out of our budget. It's always, we want the full amount.

I'm not void.

Okay, well, I'm asking you, what can you cover then?

I can't because I'm transferring. I just did a budget transfer today out of fire in the ambulance. I'm out of money in maintenance because he didn't put enough money in maintenance. I'm six months through the year, and I can't even pay the bills to fix a broken ambulance. I'm doing my very best to find money, but this isn't my budget. So why don't you come to us like that?

Why don't you say, look, this is what I've got. This is what I've tried to find. And this is what I would like to do because I don't have this. And I'm already short on my budget. That's what I'd like to see rather than just, hey, we're asking for this. The people are listening to what we do here, and it's their money. It's not my money. So I'm just trying to be a good steward of what we're given, and I'm asking you guys to be good stewards and explain to the public this is what we need, this is why we need it, and we don't have the money to cover it right now. And so, I mean, I'm not jumping your crap for what Boyd's done. I'm just saying. I would like to see fiscal responsibility from all of our... And I think we all try and do a really good job of it, but it's great to have an explanation rather than just an ask every time.

I get it. Just to help with the fiscal responsibility, just a reminder, we had a super expensive fix on a fire truck at almost $40,000, and I spent a lot of time and effort and got that down to almost $18,000. So I feel like I'm trying as best as I can. I do.

Do we have anything, Chief, in our wildland mitigation budget that could be used on this?

Not mitigation. We've dreamed that. I mean, we spent tons of money on signs this year because we had bands that got thrown up. You know, the wildland. When it gets down to the season, again, I don't want to come in here if I blow a pump in one of the brush trucks. Yeah, and use it all. But I can also commit that in October, November, if we haven't spent the money that we're holding there, then we'll certainly transfer it back. I mean, that's all that really I can do. Sure. I don't want to come back to you and say, hey, man, we just blew a pump because that's $25,000 in a brush truck. So we are holding some money that we haven't spent in our wildland fund. We are. and 15,000 don't hold me to it because I didn't look at the budget today.

I'm not trying to call you on the carbon. I'm just trying to say it's helpful to have the people understand where we're at, how tight our budgets are, and what we're trying to do to save their tax dollars and how we're trying to spend them wisely. Totally understand.

So with this machine, I guess one of the things I like to do is, so this is the machine, but you're going to want to upfit it. What additional costs? I mean.

No, the bid. We have the skid already, right? And if you look on the. So you've got everything for that? You attach the bid. So if you look on the left column, the options, that's already in the price. Like this is as bare bones as they build them. The one that we had is a four-door AC, the Defender Pro and all this. So we're literally adding a windshield. And a roof, because it's an open roof.

I just know then they want lights, and they want skid plates and winches, and they just, it just. Not me. That's why I'm asking. I'm moving. I saw the roof and a winch over.

We're going to move our pump over, and we'll deal with the red and blue emergency lights next budget year out of our wild land. We're going to peek through that. This was as bare bones as we felt like there is available right now.

We've talked about other departments and wanting, hey, we need a vehicle for this. Okay, well, then what goes in the vehicle?

The vehicle is one thing, but it's everything else that goes in. That's why I asked. That's why we had that shown clearly in the options and not a budget price from Weller's. I wanted that line item. Now, that's all included in that 19-7. and we have no other expected cost to put it in service. We'll do the in-house fab, unbolt it out of the ATV we've gotten. And that one was already lighted and ready for EM and for the Fahrenheit. It's just simply moving the pump out. We've repaired the pump, damaged ourself from it falling out twice.

Okay. For the benefit of the public, that pump skid was acquired through a grant a few years ago, too. We did not buy that. It was, well, I mean, with taxpayer money, these grant funding to acquire that.

And I do appreciate all you're doing. You're doing a great job. You are doing a great job.

We're good.

And I think having the right tool for the job is critical. I mean, people think, oh, you're buying a UTV. No, we're buying a tool. That's really what we're talking about. This is a tool for them to do their job. And we want to have the right tool to do the job. It's kind of an ugly tool. It's an expensive tool, right? But that's what it is, ultimately.

And just like the previous was used for emergency management and sheriff, this one will be used for emergency management and fire. So it's not like these are my toys and I'm not sharing them.

Okay, may I add her mention? Under, we all got the email on this grant that is available for us that right now will cover these kinds of things. I mean, it's search and rescue, police, other things, mitigations, the outdoor recreation grant.

The outdoor recreation grant won't cover.

This one does.

Well, I haven't seen it.

It just came out July 15th, and it's good until September 15th. So you might want to look at that before we decide, unless we're going to decide and then.

Well, can't we submit for it? He's got to have it during.

Yeah, no, he's got to have it now. But what I'm saying is, is. is this is a grant that we could get. Sheriff knows about it, because he was in the meeting when we had those discussions at UAC. And so this one is something we could possibly have.

So that one did come out just earlier this month, but I think it's for $2 million, and it's also going to be county.

Specific.

Yes, so Morgan County would be very limited to very little of that. So we wouldn't cover that.

But it might be something we could use. we can at least apply for it. Oh yeah, sure. Because we need, we needed, I mean, you guys are up at Taggart's all summer long. We're paying for all those expenses of taking care of those people that, you know, these extra trips that we have to go and do for survival or whatever we got to do, search and rescue out there. Those kinds of things that if you can come up with a plan, we can probably get a grant. And this grant is available right now from the 15th of July until September 15th, and it's worth looking at. And if we could get that grant, it could supply something else that we need for the future, for this next year, or for whenever we need it. There's actually two grants that just came out. That one and the other one I haven't looked at enough, but it's available for public safety.

I'll send it to you, Chief. Does Weller's have this in stock?

It's actually, they're holding it. It's 25 to 26. So she originally, this two weeks ago, when this went down three weeks ago, I called her and she goes, another agency's going to their commission tonight. She called me the next day and said they decided to buy a nicer fort than $35,000 one. So they're holding on until a decision was made. We didn't have to commit to it, but it's sitting there. Literally, if it's approved, We'll let her know tomorrow, and we'll probably have it at the end of the week. It's set and ready to go, and all the parts to go on it. She said it was a couple of days. That's great.

I'd appreciate just shopping around, trying to find the best deal. Yeah, it's... Because you're right, these side-by-sides can be very expensive.

Well, the air-conditioned Polaris one that we have the pump on now is 37,000 bucks. It's nuts. You can buy a car for that.

Okay, I'll look for motion. Mr. Chair, I'll move that we approve repurchase of a UTV for use by the emergency management and fire departments. that it costed $19,708.80 and the transition of funds from the general fund balance to the fire and emergency management budget to cover the cost. I'll second.

I have a motion by Commissioner Nitten, a second by Commissioner Nickerson. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hang in there, Raylene. We're getting there.

Okay, so I'm taking over for Casey on this one. This one is actually pretty easy. The County Commission, which I did put it in the packet, in 2020 passed this same resolution, which is essentially takes on, picks up is the expression, the percentage of public service contributions for EORS employees under the public safety tier two. At the time, we didn't have any firefighters that were under tier two. We now have one that is Dabelsen. And this, in order for us to do the same thing for fire, where did my page go? Here we go. We have to pass the same resolution that you guys did in 2020. In 2020, it should have been passed as the entire title, which is public safety and firefighters, but it just passed as public safety. This will cost us $430.09, which will not require a budget adjustment.

OK. Any questions? Not at all. OK. Mr. Chair, I move that we approve. Do we have a resolution?

It is, CR 2639.

I move that we approve resolution CR 26-39, resolution authorizing the employer, Morgan County, to pick up member retirement contributions for tier two firefighter employees. Second.

I have a motion by Commissioner Newton, second by Commissioner Nickerson. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion is unanimous. OK.

So the commission postponed number four? Yep, to date certain, August 4th. Thank you so much. Almost there.

169.

OK. Is this Kent? Is this Janet? Kent. Is it both? Is it team effort? OK. OK.

So just to clarify for the work session for the Eagle Vista, the flagship, do you want to have a work session? The same day.

Same day. As the action item. OK.

This next item is just a development agreement amendment for Rollins Ranch.

Oh, I apologize. 162 starts the packet. Sorry, Ken. There you go. There's all your smartness.

OK. So essentially, it's just a change in ownership for parcel A from the Homeowners Association to the Mark and Jennifer Hancock Revocable Trust. It doesn't change any other items with the development agreement. So it's just ownership of parcel A. If you have any particular questions, I'll be glad to address them at this time. The Planning Commission did. hold a public hearing on this proposal on July 9th and it was passed unanimously. There was some discussion about whether there'd be public access to the trails and the commission was told that the trail system would remain open to the public And they revised the public access agreement would be the same as the original development agreement. It would remain unchanged. So if you have any particular questions, I'll be glad to address those at this time. I'm glad that Janet is here. This has been a little bit confusing to follow with the industry.

I was able to talk to Josh. I didn't know he was on vacation, but he called me back. He was kind enough to call me back, so I don't have any questions on him.

I don't either.

I do know there was a point where we did an adjustment to this particular project and and removed some property that was common area property where we really should have put a road this was quite a few years ago i don't believe that is the case with this particular parcel so i'm not concerned about that but just wanted to state that that that is something that we need to watch for if we have any future projects where they intend to take common area parcels and make them private or sell them to a private entity that we're not doing that for a space that really should be a future road or a future connectivity.

I think Josh told me that the amount that they paid for this parcel of ground, the HOA is going to use to develop and put a lot of amenities on there to make it nice and everybody can use it.

I think that's great.

So this will be privately owned property, but the HOA is going to use the funds from the sale to improve the property?

Correct.

Wait. Oh. Okay. I was like, this is really.

It's just a minor thing. My understanding is they purchased the property, I think, for like $100,000. And that money's going to fund the HOA that has no money. But in their LURA, that Land Use Restriction Agreement, they agreed in that agreement that they would, with their other money, install all the improvements.

The new owner will install. I was kind of reading through there.

Are you the owner?

This is Joe Sigety, their attorney.

Go ahead. Maybe you can clarify it for us just to...

My name is Joe Sigety, attorney for Mark and Jen Hedcock. The improvements are already finished. Trails are in, there's a pavilion in, bridges are in. All the work on the parcel that we're talking about today is already finished. The purchase price amount, we don't have any money from HOA, I don't know what they're planning on doing with it. The purchase price amount will be used for other projects in the HOA, not necessarily on this parcel of land. there's been talk of pickleball courts there's been talk of some exercise areas but i would have to go to a vote with the hua members i thought it was a lot more than a hundred thousand i think it was closer to six hundred or seven six hundred and seventy five thousand dollars it's a pretty significant amount for the hua okay thank you for the clarification so i've got a question and whoever can answer it

It says on page 163, it says, bridges, benches, trailhead signage, overlooks, so forth, may be permitted if the county determines during the applicable review process. that they are part of or incidental to the trail system contemplated by the development agreement and are otherwise permitted within native open space. Other proposed improvements including a park playground or independent recreational facility may not be permitted. So what does that mean?

So if you look at the breakdown sheet that they have attached I think to the land use agreement or was included in the packet, they mentioned parks and things in that inventory and I don't know that you can put a park in native open space and so it would have to follow whatever the development agreement and the overlay concept plans say can be on that native open space.

So basically what we're approving then today is basically an agreement that was made two years ago that they should not have done and that we can now approve that because it has to go before us.

So we're not approving their agreement. We are referencing their agreement in our approval of the Sixth Amendment to the Development Agreement. We're not ratifying that that's a separate agreement that the county's not a party to, but we are cleaning up what was not allowed by the development agreement two years ago when it was transferred. Okay, all right. Yes.

Just one comment on how the agreement was made. It was very much a handshake agreement at the time. There weren't any attorneys involved. So they went ahead and did it, not realizing that there was this prohibition on the sale of private owners of HOA open space land. And so, like you said, we're just cleaning up some, you know, whatever was required.

That's the first thing we've had to clean up.

Okay. Mr. Chair, I move that we... Before, oh, sorry. Public hearing. Public hearing, okay. We go into public hearing. I'll second.

Okay, I have a motion by Commissioner Newton to go into public hearing and a second by Commissioner Nickerson. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Is there anyone in our, that would like to, online or here? speak in our opening meeting. Okay, seeing none, I'll look for a motion.

I'll move that we close the public hearing and reconvene the public meeting. Second.

I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Nickerson. All in favor?

Aye. Aye. Mr. Chair, I move that we approve ordinance CO. So sorry.

Now this is where I was going to interrupt you. Because we've made just a few clarifications. If we go to where it has the county ordinance. That motion was unanimous, by the way. Well, the ordinance, I can't really see.

On the findings to 29, 230. Oh, there it is. 166.

There you go. 226. 226, yep. There it is, okay.

All right, so if we scroll down to the third page of this, Initially, these were, and I have to thank Janet for drafting this because she put a lot of detail in, which is helpful to tell the story and maintain the record. One that was the condition of approval. It was more put in just to clarify and make sure that these things were incorporated into the document. We kind of talked about just amending it so that we don't have to get, we don't have to approve it subject to these conditions. It will just be these conditions have been incorporated. And so anyway, section four, we're suggesting that that be removed based upon the additions to the sixth amendment to the development agreement where I guess I'll just go through it quickly. In the packet, it's titled the Fifth Amendment. And I think that that was maybe before attorneys got involved that they thought it was the Fifth Amendment. And so now we're just cleaning up some of the documents that they had put in before.

janet do you have more to that is correct the fifth amendment was the amendment where they sold common space not native open space to private individuals there so and we didn't know about that and that may have been the one that commissioner newton was referring to earlier that happened a few years back

So in the packet, it says Fifth Amendment to the Development Agreement. That's been updated to Sixth Amendment. So that's one of the changes that satisfies 4A. 4B.

Where does it say Fifth?

So that would be if you go to the next, yeah, if you scroll down.

Right here.

Are you saying in the ordinance itself or in?

Or you're saying you're changing the wording. Where does it say fifth? You're saying strike section four.

Yeah, so we'll strike section four and I was just going through where four A through D are now going to be in the sixth amendment to the development agreement, which in the packet was labeled fifth amendment. So we're updating everything to say sixth amendment instead of fifth from what was in the packet. But that's because that's how it was sent to you.

Oh, sweet. Okay.

It's not your fault. It's our fault. Well, it's just a condition. Rather than having it be a condition that we have to go back, we can sign it tonight and get it recorded.

So you're asking him to include that in his motion?

Yeah, in the motion that we remove Section 4. and update section five and six to remove conditional approval that is just approved completely that's in the ordinance and then in the development agreement amendment all references to fifth amendment are updated to the sixth amendment did you get that mike yeah and then i'll give you three more but they're very okay they're very minor i mean i yeah i'm not gonna list them all for the motion okay you can just say as articulated what was discussed yep and so to satisfy 4b that we're removing from the ordinance in the amendment to the second whereas on page two we'll add said agreement is included solely for reference and does not constitute county approval or ratification of said agreement. The Hancock Park master plan, any associated budget or timeline or any proposed use or improvement. Right after that, for 4C, we'll add another paragraph that says, whereas the Hancock Trust understands that any proposed use or improvement remains subject to separate county review and all approval is required by the development agreement, Morgan County Code and applicable law. And then on page three, under the last whereas, the last sentence will be amended to read, additionally, the Hancock trust recognizes that it may not convey parcel A to a successor without prior written county approval through an amendment to the development agreement. And that would reference back to ordinance 4B that we're removing. So all of those conditions of approval are now just incorporated into the development agreement and we can get the ordinance signed tonight.

Okay, good call on that one, Mike.

Sorry, I just wanted to, a couple months ago in our, one of our meetings, we discussed not passing ordinances that are not able to be signed tonight. So whether we can make these adjustments tonight, if it's approved, we can make these adjustments.

I've already made them and they're ready for signature if you're okay with those changes.

I just wanted to make sure, because I know that was one of the things we discussed a couple months ago, is not passing things that are not ready to be signed tonight. So thank you.

Yeah, thanks for being flexible to make those live here. Okay, Mr. Chair, I move that we approve Ordinance CO26-15, which is a sixth amendment to the Rawlings Ranch Development Agreement, including all of the items mentioned by the county attorney this evening.

Yeah, I guess that's it. I'll second that.

I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Fackrell. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay, Leslie. Last one, Raylene, just hang in there one.

All right.

i'm here seeking approval of cr 2634 making changes to the county budget for the second quarter this resolution will be making changes um department adjustments fund balance adjustments grants we have received other fund adjustments and a fund transfer the fund balance adjustments have been approved by you in previous meetings do you have any questions

no i'm so glad that we're doing these on a quarterly basis it's just so much better than the old method so thank you for and i love that we're approving fund balance funds on a one-on-one before we get to here yes yes yeah i mean it makes the budgeting process better and so i don't have to answer for answering for 17 departments and elected

So Mr. Chair, I move that we go into public hearing for item number six.

I'll second.

I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Nickerson. All in favor?

Aye. Aye.

Any opposed?

Motion carries. Mr. Chair, I'll move that we adjourn the public hearing and reconvene the public meeting. Second.

I have a motion by Commissioner Newton, second by Commissioner Fackrell. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay, motion carries.

Mr. Chair, I move we approve resolution CR26-34, resolution of the Morgan County Commission adopting certain amendments to Morgan County's 2026 budget.

Second.

Okay, I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Nickerson. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?

Leslie, do you have a printed copy?

Commissioner Blocker, do you have anything before you go to bed?

no i don't thank you okay good luck and travel safely thanks really thank you thanks for staying with us bye commissioner newton um i'll just give a quick update on our fairgrounds projects um the fair starts saturday with the parade and we'll have an ATB rodeo that day and then a dance that evening. Information on fair schedules available on the website morgancountyfair.org. All households in the county should have also received a schedule in the mail. They are actively, all of the speakers, they finished installing for the new sound system today. One of the screens is mostly installed. and they'll have the second screen completely installed by tomorrow morning. They expect to then spend the next two and a half days doing programming and making sure everything functions correctly, but troubleshooting. As far as our asphalt project goes, we did discover yesterday evening that our internet connection between some of the facilities was disrupted when the asphalt was removed, the old asphalt. So the public works department was able to get some conduit and they're gonna, I think they'll put that in tomorrow morning. They were doing the grading on the, for the new asphalt. Our grader unfortunately blew a head gasket. So it's out of commission. So we did have to hire a third party to come in and do the grading work. Then we'll put in that conduit for the internet cable, and then they will pave on Thursday. So a lot to do over there. If you go over there right now, you're going to wonder if we're going to have a fair, but we will, and it'll be ready. It's just going to be a little bit chaotic for the next couple of weeks. Well the next couple of days getting ready and then the fair is gonna be chaotic Anyway for the public please come out support the Morgan County Fair Even if you just come over and have dinner every night. We hope you'll do that There's lots of activities planned horse pulls rodeos ATV rodeos junior rodeo lots of great stuff come and enjoy and

spend some money in our county and frequent our businesses and eat some good fair food that's all i had commissioner packrell um the question i have for for mike uh the is there any thought about increasing the recycling

portion of the garbage system to where they can come more often um we could talk about that it's it's really amounts to whether we want to pay the hauler to come up and do another round so our hauling costs are approximately five dollars every every month currently for that it would increase our cost by about $5 a month if that was something that we wanted to do. With current prices, that could change. Somebody get an extra unit if they wanted. Yes, I believe so. You could request an additional recycling can. I don't see why not.

Has the program been successful?

Yeah, so that's a great question. We are currently running what they call single stream recycling, which is everything goes in one can. It goes down to the material recovery facility. That material is unloaded and then put through the facility and sorted. Right now that facility is running about six and a half to seven hours per day. which is really a full shift because you have some startup time and close time. The system is set up that it could be run up to 24 hours a day if we want multiple shifts and had enough material to need to do that. But right now there's not enough material to do that. But we are diverting a fair amount from the landfill. And more importantly, Because currently all of the household waste that goes to Layton is not being landfilled there. It's actually being put in trucks and trucked 100 miles south to a landfill that's south of Utah Lake. As members of the Wasatch Integrated Board, Wasatch Integrated is a quarter owner in that landfill that's down south of Utah Lake. And so we're delivering that to that. That particular landfill has more than 100 years of life left in it. There's plenty of room out there. But we have, in the most recent study for Wasatch Integrated, initially we were told 12 to 15 year life on the landfill down here in Layton, but with the diversion we've been doing both in trucking south and in the recycling, the most recent was 21 years. So we have extended the life of the landfill a bit. In some recent discussions with that board, we've kind of been trying to decide how to continue that, whether we continue to ramp up how much we're trucking away to try to extend the life or leave it be. Obviously, it's a lot more expensive to truck it south than it is to just landfill it there, but anyway. Yes, it has been successful, I would say. There are still some opportunities out there. There's still a couple of cities in the district that are not currently doing recycling, and there's some opportunity to add them, and there's also some areas where there's some opportunity to add curbside recycling, or excuse me, curbside green waste. That's not a big deal for our county or Morgan City because we have so much rural area. I always tell them at that board meeting, my grass goes over the fence and into the cow and I don't put it in my garbage can. But that's something, they actually have been awarded a grant, a federal grant. It's a fairly large three or four million dollar grant that will help build more pads to do composting. So they'll be able to take that green waste and compost it. That has been, the funding on that has been delayed now four months in a row. So we're waiting for them to finally release the funding, but all of the environmental work has been done so they can start construction as soon as the funding comes through. So they'll be able to expand that and then their intent is there's a couple of cities on the Wasatch Front that will start green waste recycling, curbside green waste and deliver to that. On that note, you can go down to the Davis landfill and pick up wood chips or mulch at a really reasonable cost. It's very inexpensive. It's good stuff. They sort it or screen it really nicely, so it's nice stuff. If you do that, just make sure you take a tarp to cover your load, because if you don't, they're going to either make you buy a tarp or you're going to get a fine.

And they sell it by the bag there too. They do. Yeah, you can get bagged too. Bag as well. Yeah, if you don't want to do a bulk. It's much cheaper by the ton. Yeah. Cover your trail.

Cover your load. In and out of there. Okay.

So, didn't Wholesome Plant used to buy some of the...

So they don't buy it. They take it and burn it. So part of what's sorted out in the material recovery facility is what we call engineered fuel. It's basically non-recyclable plastics. So your saran wraps and your cups and stuff that are non-recyclable, those get bundled up. They bail them into bales. They put them on a truck, and then they haul them up to the plant here. It's actually not recycled. plant that buys it or that takes it, it's Geocycle that has a facility there at the plant. Geocycle shreds it and then feeds it into the kiln there. One thing that's kind of slowed the amount that can go there is that they don't have the capability to feed that material into the main burner. It's into one of the secondary burners. They've been talking for a lot of years about changing that, but until they renovate the plant to do main burner capability, they won't be able to take as much quantity. That being said, they also, they use tire shreddings. They get all of the, or a lot of the cuttings off of diapers from Kimberly Clark, the not used diapers, but as they make diapers, there's cuttings that come off. They bundle that up and haul it up there and burn it in the kiln as well.

Yeah, so a portion does go there.

We sell every other recyclable that we can. Sometimes they will hold onto it and wait until the value is a little better to try to sell it. They don't hold onto a lot, but occasionally. Some months, aluminum is really high and the district makes some money on that, which is great because that keeps our costs down, anything they can bring in in revenue. And speaking of revenue, there is a thrift store down there at the facility, and it brings in actually a significant amount of revenue, over $10,000 a month in revenue to the district, which helps offset our costs, but is also a great opportunity. So if you're looking for something, and I mean, it's not like this is stuff that's been thrown in somebody's garbage can and fished out. It's generally stuff that people take down and they're gonna toss anyway, and instead of throwing it into the landfill, they grab it and take it into the thrift store. That's also the same facility where you can take hazardous waste. So if you have paint, oils, that sort of thing, they will take that for free. as long as it's within certain quantities. I mean, if you show up there with a 50 gallon barrel of oil, they're going to question that. But if you had, you know, I think it's 10 or 12 gallon, or something like that.

I took some paint down back springtime. I think I took like 35 gallons of paint that I'd used in five gallon buckets to sit around the curb. And they'll take it.

Where's that at?

So that's right at the thrift store location. So it's just inside the gate to the left. when you go up to the landfill?

Go in the gates right to the left and you continue on to the landfill.

And the other thing to note on that is there's a shed there where they will put, if there's good paint, or chemicals that are still good, they will put that in that shed and you can actually go get those for free. So if you ever needed paint to cover something and you only need a little bit and you don't really care what you're getting, go down there and check it out because you might be able to get a free bucket of paint to paint something up.

All right.

I was just curious because people have asked me about, you know, is it helping? Can they get more cans of recycling versus the other?

I don't see why not. I don't know that we... I'm not sure that we've priced a second can for recycling, but we certainly could. I mean, it would probably be the same cost as the first can, but we can talk about that.

I mean, it's... It's worthwhile because some people don't put anything out in wait because they've got chickens or cows or whatever. But they don't put anything in the wet one and it's all, everything's dry. And so, you know, people have asked about it.

Yeah.

I appreciate it.

Other than that, I have nothing else. Okay. I don't have anything.

I have one quick thing. Yep, just wanted to say thank you to Rocky Mountain Power. They had heard your last commission meeting and stepped up with an $1,865 contribution towards the benches at Kinsmith Park and a new basketball hoop at Croydon. The benches are being put together by your public works department. They are here and your son.

The basketball hoop is being used. My son put it together.

Your son put it together.

No warranty on that.

So if you'd like to sign a thank you card to them, I'd greatly, or to Logan Taggart, I'd greatly appreciate it.

That's awesome.

That's all I have, Joe. They just heard? They heard? They heard it's a meeting? Yep. Wow. That's awesome.

And they're also interested in sponsoring, because we have to replace a lot of our football helmets next year. I don't know. It's been a minute since we've all played football. The new football helmets run between $350 and $675 a piece. What? Yep. And they expire, like car seats. So we have a whole bunch of helmets in our recreation department for our football program, which is obviously huge, that need to be replaced next year. And so we are working with them on a grant. like now, so that we are ready to budget for that for next year. So just a thank you to Rocky Mountain Power. That's all.

Thank you.

All right. Okay, I'll look for a motion to leave.