County Commission - Regular Meeting

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Good afternoon, welcome to our Commission meeting July 7th 2026 at 4 p.m.. This will be our regular meeting Starting early because of the amount of things that we get to do today, so I Appreciate everybody's attendance and thanks to those that are online that are with us as well gonna start with an invocation and a the Pledge of Allegiance and I'll take care of that today our eternal father in heaven we are grateful for this day we're thankful heavenly father for the opportunity we have had to celebrate the 250th anniversary of our great country. We're grateful for the freedoms that we enjoy, the freedom of religion, the freedom that we have to do what we do with our families and with our communities each and every day. We pray that those will continue to be protected and watched over by thy hand. We're grateful, Father, for this great community that we live in. We thank for all the residents here who work so diligently in helping their neighbor and doing those things that are right. and thy sight. We're grateful for all that we have. We pray for moisture and pray for protection from fires and those things that could destroy our community and destroy our crops. We ask you to bless us with the needed moisture that we will need in now and in the future. We appreciate all that thou does for us in our lives. We ask thee to bless and watch over all our good residents and their families. And we say these things humbly in Jesus Christ's name. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and peace. OK, I want to excuse Vaughn, who's with his family on vacation, it sounds like, in Hawaii. Good for him. And Commissioner Fackrell will be a few minutes late, he said. So since we have a quorum, we'll move forward. Consent agenda items, has everyone had an opportunity to read through those? And is there any questions or anything that needs to be moved to action items tonight?

Chair, legal has asked that we move consent agenda item 10, approval of resolution CR 2631, Morgan County conflict of interest policy. Two action items, please.

OK. Number 10, we will move. The only question I had was I don't understand all of legal wording. However, we had asked some things to be put in the agreement with Wasatch Shivel. I couldn't specifically see those things in there unless it was in the one area that I...

So we'd like to pull that one as well?

Yes, please.

So that's eight.

Mr. Chair, I move that we approve consent agenda items one through seven, nine, and 11 through 13.

I'll second it.

OK.

I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Blocker. All in favor? Aye. Are there any opposed? OK. Motion carries. Do we have any commissioner conflicts of interest on any of the agenda items tonight? Seeing none, we'll move forward to public comment. If you're here to comment on any of the agenda items other than the public meeting agenda items, please come forward now and share. Keep it to three minutes, if you would please, and state your name and address.

That would be up to you.

one exception we do have the cottonwoods development agreement amendment on that is scheduled to be postponed or continued to a date certain august 4th i think it's incorrect in the agenda the original agenda yes so it is august 4th and so there won't be a public hearing but if people would like to make public comment tonight

Okay, that's item number 25, correct? Correct. Okay. All right, seeing no public comment, we'll move forward to our presentation. Honorable Janelle Walker will present us with her Assessor Summer Workshop Recap.

You want your slide deck?

Yes, please. Janelle Walker, Morgan County Assessor. can't read it just kidding yeah you can we can read it so we just had the assessor summer workshop as well in Morgan County which was great I think it turned out well we had 25 of our 29 counties that this was a great turnout especially for so many that was on fire Assessors were wanting to stay there so they could assess some things. We also had a great representation of the State Tax Commission. We had two commissioners that were here, which was awesome. As well as we had in leadership, we had about six of them that were in leadership. So it was a great turnout. We also had UAC representation as well. We had four people from there talking about the stats and also UAC and how they can help us. So that was great. You want to go to the next slide? We had it here. It was great. We crammed everyone in. There was about 40 people total that came to it, so we were full at capacity. You want to go to the next one? We're just going to kind of show kind of our highlight. One thing I just wanted to kind of talk about too was our great staff. We had amazing staff making sure that things were represented well and that we represented Morgan County well. One thing that I tried to do was I tried to really pilot and focus on all of our small businesses. So I had a select few group that we went through. So we ate at Taggart's. I had El Nene Sammy's food truck there. One night we went, had Larry's to go, SOS sweet soda and treats. We had Lee's Market. We got to go up to Wasatch Peaks for a moment, which was great to be able to Talk about assessments and having higher end communities that come into different counties. So that was great. We had Wild Valley Farms and he talked about his the pellets that he's using for sheep, which is great to be able to. kind of, I guess, solicit that and kind of tell the importance of what his business does. We had Bingham's Custom Meat talk to us. We also had Bingham Bombs on the last day, so they were able to partake as well as utilize that as well. Higby Honey, we had a tasting He talked about a tasting moment we kind of went through when we got to taste different honeys as well as them going to his business and to be able to purchase some of those things as well. Milk Bar and Creamery, he went through as well, and we talked about the different things that they do. Basically, we really just kind of focus more on the small businesses and how they've had to kind of think outside the box of being able not only to represent their business, but keep their business going. A lot of good things happened there that they had a little presentation and then kind of we just talked about how supporting small businesses and how we can utilize some of our businesses in our communities. Do you want to go to the next one? So there's kind of the test, test all of those, and then go to the next one. We also got to go to Amarize and the Devil's Slide tour, which was great. It's one of our biggest commercial spaces that we have in our county. They were very generous, and we got to go through a tour, and they explained how much they actually do in the northern United States, one of the biggest and largest, It's just right here. It's pretty amazing to kind of think about. Okay, then the next one. I'm going to have you keep clucking. We also went to the Wild Shed, which was a great little place to be able to have lunch and to be able to have a presentation as well. So that's where we had our Larrys to go that day. Next one. And then we also went to our... pavilion that is just in the park. We played a good, awesome game of bingo. It was great. And then that's where we had El Nene Sammies as well. Okay, I think there's... Oh, the last day. The last day of the shooting range. We were the last ones to go there. We didn't know until afterwards, but we actually had to have... We got our sheriffs involved as well and our deputies, and they were there as well, helping us and supporting us. Some of those people have never even shot a gun, so we went through all the safety protocols, and everyone did really well, and it was kind of a fun... little outing to kind of just show and represent some of the things that we do in Morgan. And also, you know, my husband definitely had to help on that one. So.

So just to clarify, you armed a bunch of county assessors.

We did. And Utah State Tax Commission. Oh, we did a great job. Hey, we were successful. No one died. We did great. and and they were all very respectful of the guns we we used all of our browning guns so that was kind of fun too um to be able to pull those and and to kind of show some of the things that we have extra here so i think that is that the last one kate yes uh no your thank you slime oh Just thank you to the support of the businesses that we had and that we were able to really represent, I think, Morgan County very well. I had so many compliments and support of our county. I think we're doing some really great things with our small businesses and keeping supporting of them as well as our Larger businesses that are kind of not normal to us, but we are we are learning from it and it was a great Representation of Morgan County. I think we did really well with with what we had And everyone had a great time. So just kind of wanted to go over and thank Our County for just the support in this and I think we did a wonderful job. So Any other thoughts or questions?

Nothing. Sounds great. Anyone?

Yeah, it was awesome. I went up with you guys that one day to Wasatch Peaks. Yeah, it was good. Everyone raved about what a great job you were doing. Well, thank you. And they said they want to come back to Morgan. They didn't know all this stuff was here.

At first, that's the whole thought process. They were like, Morgan, what are we going to do in Morgan? I'm like, oh, we're going to show you a fun time. And we did. We did. Even if it was bingo. It was great. It was great. So, all right. Thank you guys so much.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Commissioner Fechter will catch you up. We pulled two things from consent. One was being the Wasatch Civil Agreement, and the other was the conflict of interest policy. So that, so we will pull now.

So you didn't pull the other ones, Matt? What other ones? I sent you a text with the ones I wanted off.

The answer is no, he did not.

No? I don't have a text from you, by the way.

uh garrett's so it was the number which one ten and which one uh eight and ten eight and ten okay because i have another two all right

So I think the question is with the Wasatch civil contract where we have, where we're asking for more detail in invoices. So if you go to section three under compensation It is the second to last sentence. It says each invoice shall provide reasonable details, including the project slash application number and a summary of services performed. So that was, I guess my best effort to say there should be reasonable details, there should be a summary of the work performed. In speaking, I actually was able to call Mark today, we chatted a little bit, and he said that in some ways this has been good for him to realize that they have in their software that creates the invoices they have a place where they can put notes that can go into more details and even before you know we've signed this agreement of course he said that he started putting that in and it's been great for him too because it's just a note right in their software that doesn't require as much extra effort and he said that Technology just changes over time and he is happy to adapt with that as well.

Okay. I I totally missed that line so I Was looking in another area Okay, were there any other I had on one and that is on

He's expected to be at the Planning Commission meetings. I'm not going to confirm it right now, but that was one of my notes. So I was wondering if he's expected to be there, and if so, is he going to be paid hourly during that time, or what happens?

I saw that as he's expected to be here when necessary. That's what I saw.

OK. As long as it's when necessary, I'm fine with that.

Any other questions or thoughts?

OK.

Okay, we'll look to legal for... Do we want to vote on that one before we... Do you want to vote on it allegedly?

Yeah, I think we should. Okay. Mr. Chair, I move that we approve item... The action item... 1-8? 1-8?

Approval of the services agreement with Wasatch Civil Engineering.

I'll second it.

I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Blocker. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay.

Okay, sorry.

Janet?

I'm shuffling. We got one more that you pulled conflict. CR 26-31.

Okay, I'll pull it, Janet.

I don't think my boss is going to be happy when I say that I just don't like it. Okay, so I'll explain. You know, policies like these are great. My concern when we just start adopting these policies that are just recommended, that are drafted by the state, that we're risking running into some conflicts with our own county commission, policy and procedures, state law, even some of our ordinances all kind of covered this stuff. How these are written, there's wording in there that isn't defined by state code or anywhere else and kind of broadens what the conflict of interest is. And quite frankly, I don't know that any elected official in Morgan would be able to get anything done based on this policy, how it's written, you're gonna be conflicted out of almost anything in a small county based on this policy. Now, some version of this, if we tailored it and made sure that it was conforming to your policies that you already have now in state law, great. But I don't think right now it adds anything more except for a couple provisions I would recommend, but other than that.

Is this what we signed this year?

No. No. So this is copy-paste, the pre-form recommended policy. There's actually three of them. We already pulled one from the agenda before it was posted. The other one is the ethics one, which I believe is action. Action item four, their copy-paste from the state auditor's office, because the state auditor's office was like, hey, where's your, we have these policies, have you passed them? And we've passed them, but we haven't passed their version of it.

So, I mean, I would rather we take what we have currently and compare it to this, and if we're missing something, let's update it.

And update our own. That's what I would recommend.

There's nothing requiring us to use their version.

I'm not seeing anything in state code or law. I think it's just recommended by the auditor's office. And also, some of the templates are from 2018.

Well, where did we get the new version that we signed this year? Because we had the old version. Then we signed a new version this year. Oh, that was just the conflict of interest form.

That's for filing and for electeds. That's an annual required form, yeah.

but it was an updated form that you recently signed, and that was because the state legislature changed changed the law again and basically implemented what's required for declaration of candidacy to also apply to the annual conflict of interest disclosures for any elected official so that if that's what you're mentioning within the last month or so is that yeah so that was a change made by the state legislature and and then we updated our form to comply with that What this is is more of a policy than the state statute. It encapsulates some of the state statutes, and I'm not mad at Janet for what she said, just for the record. I think she's doing a great job, and I agree. I was more concerned with number four, which is the ethical behavior policy, not having defined terms within the policy itself. I think that, you know, this one, once again, we don't want to have conflicting any policy, let alone a conflict of interest policy. And so whether it's, you know, I guess looking at what we have, seeing if there's any gaps, and then we fill that in. But it is separate from the one that you signed recently.

Well, we definitely want to follow what council tells us to do.

Mr. Chair, I'll move that we... I guess we're not really... I guess we're postponing... Okay, so I'll move to postpone action item FB10. Resolution CR 26-31, Morgan County Conflict of Interest Policy, to allow staff and the legal team to review our current policy and make any updates and bring that back to us at a later point.

I'll second it.

Okay, I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Blocker. All in favor? Aye. Are there any opposed? Okay, motion carries.

I need a motion to go into Board of Equalization.

I'll move to adjourn as the County Commission and reconvene as the Morgan County Board of Equalization. Second.

A motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Fackrell. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? OK. Motion is unanimous. We are now in Board of Equalization.

Hello. I am just bringing forward the resolution CR-2602-BOE, the contract for our independent hearing officer for BOE appeals. We'll be using Brad and F again this year. Do you have any questions?

No. I assume you're happy with it.

Yes. Thank you.

Okay, thanks. I move that we approve BOE, what was it, 26-?

CR2602.

Sorry, I have the wrong one. CR2602, BOE, for the contract of independent hearing officers, Bratton Avenue.

I'll second it.

We have a motion by Commissioner Ferkel and a second by Commissioner Blocker. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Are there any opposed? Okay, it's unanimous. Okay, action item F2, Brett Heiner.

Hold up, Mr. Chair, I move that we adjourn as a board of equalization and reconvene as a county commission. Good catch.

Okay, I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Bacrow. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay, we're back in commission meeting as commissioners now. Thank you for being here.

Hey, my voice is a little raspy. It's from taking blood pressure medicine, and I never took it until I came to Morgan County. I do have an excuse. You were a little younger before you came to Morgan County, too. Maybe I was. It looks like we do have some... Do you want me to give a background?

Okay, so in your transportation impact plan, you've been holding money since 2006, so you'd have enough to do the last two projects on your impact fee plan, which are what Brett is proposing to do. this year so we can get that out the door. So that would be, to save your voice with your blood pressure meds, the overlay of silver leaf, leveling course of silver leaf, and the concrete sidewalk, all that is silver leaf. And then the other one is, I believe, the Cottonwood Canyon overlay.

And I know Commissioner, Locker won't like this at all, but go ahead. Just kidding.

I have a question. Yes. On your silver leaf, you're asking for a sidewalk, yet we already have a trail there. So why do we need a sidewalk?

We're not putting a sidewalk. We just have to mill to that sidewalk that goes across there. We're just not paving that little walk path there.

Okay, so you're going to mill it over to, through that grass over to the trail?

No. You know the two crosswalks that are brick? We can't pave over those. We have to keep them the same. So I have to mill to them, and I have to mill down when I get to them within six feet, and then pave that so it's the same level and then mill both sides. Okay.

I think it's a great idea.

Of course, I've been asking for those two roads there, if you can hear me. Those would be great for those two roads, I think. We like to pay when it's hot, so guess what?

It's coming up.

It'd be hot, isn't it?

So the ask is to spend $915,360 in the county's transportation impact fee monies, which would require a $705,466 transfer from the transportation impact fee fund balance to the transportation impact fee project expense line.

So where does the $915,000 come from?

That's the total of these two projects minus our estimated income from the impact fees for the year. Okay.

Because it looked to me like it was 1.6 million with the two.

That's how much we have sitting in the, oh, in the projects?

Well, in both projects. You've got one project at $710,000, another project at $915,000. So if you could explain to me. $204,000 and $710,000. $204,000.

Okay, all right. Yeah, together they're $200,000. $900,000.

915, 360. All right. When do you plan on starting these?

Tomorrow. So we're going to start.

You want it to be good.

If you remember the projects I brought to you this spring, which I usually do every spring, which is going to be some smaller roads down off of Highland Drive. We've got, you're making me think here, Willow Band. There's not so many roads. We've got Hidden Hills. I just got a call, or I just got off the phone with Parsons, and they had one job canceled. It was going to start Monday. Now we're going to start Thursday. On the rows that you've already voted for this spring, if you go ahead and vote for them and add those, we're going to come back in two weeks and do them. So it's going to be pretty quick, especially for this spring.

And just how do you notify your residents that you're going to be working?

So a person will go on and they'll go door to door and put a flyer on the door. They'll try to keep their cars off the road, of course. They're pretty good at that. We'll do the same thing if we need to. We'll help them with that. And if we do have a car that's giving us a little trouble, we'll get a deputy to help us out. Residents are pretty good about that.

Great.

But they will get notice.

Thank you.

I'll look for a motion. Mr. Chair, I move that we approve the $915,360 in transportation impact fee projects, an adjustment of $705,466 out of transportation IF fund balance. Second.

I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Fackrell. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion is unanimous. Thanks, Brett.

Leslie, I'm putting that to your printer because I forgot to print it out.

Okay. Okay. F3, Honorable Garrett Smith.

All right, so this is an agreement that's been in the works for little while trying to pin down a cost for an exclusive easement if Kate if you go down to page six it shows the property page six of that document I guess so this is to the west of the cell tower over by the fairgrounds this is Enbridge expanding their their ability to service the county. And the language of the exclusive easement and right-of-way basically says that the county because we're the property owners are granting them this exclusive easement it'll be as if they own the property but if they ever abandon it or don't use it for the intended purpose then it comes back to the county and if it comes back to the county thanks to Janet and Julia and their great drafting we have some good provisions of similar to in the airport leases, that it'll be graded, it'll come back in a reasonable condition. So unless there's any other questions, I would just, if there is a motion to approve this exclusive easement, I would condition the signing the exclusive easement upon payment from Enbridge in full of $253,400.

Okay, I think that was our full ask, correct?

It was.

So, and I was shocked, so I was hoping that that's exactly how it would go, because that's what it's worth, and so I'm grateful that everything went well that way, so I'm happy.

Any questions on it?

Agreed.

Good job, Garrett.

Yeah, thank you, good work. Mr. Chair, I move that we approve the exclusive right-of-way and easement to Questar Gas Company, DBA, Enbridge, Utah, with the condition that the payment of $253,400 be received prior to final execution.

I'll second it.

Okay, I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Blocker. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay, motion's unanimous. Okay, on to you.

That's still you, Garrett.

Yep.

I believe this is your last one. Sorry, this is the ethical behavior policy that you wanted pulled from. Okay.

Well, maybe I'll let Janet speak to it because she'll probably.

She doesn't like it. There you go. I don't like this one even more. And neither does Garrett since.

No, and this is the one that I specifically asked to be pulled from consent. So the disqualification seems like a very strong term. Maybe some disclosure, some other word for that. And I think what we have here is the state code is very lax on conflicts. It's just you declare the conflict, but you can participate in the discussion, try to convince the body. You participate in the meeting, and it's just you have to declare the conflict. in the past i'm aware that the prior council had some more stringent requirements as a body that perhaps you'd have to even leave the room and while that may not be where the commission wants to push the pendulum i would just not be in support of adopting this as is i think it brings up a good discussion point to say maybe there is maybe the pendulum is swung too far on the state code and we need to have a little more transparency and a little more disclosure and perhaps even some disqualification but a recent example that as i was reading it as it applies to me as the elected county attorney because one of the The applications for the Nine Springs Mountain Ranch involved land that's owned by some of my family, my parents, that would have disqualified me from participating in those discussions with the state, with LRB for the feasibility study. Kate and Janet pulled together the meat of the letter, but I finalized it, and it would have just taken me from being involved at all in that process. even though arguably I was acting not in the interest of my family members. So I think the way that it's written, it doesn't really give some of that flexibility in a small county where if Janet weren't here, for example, and I'm the only one on the legal side, then we'd have to hire contractors. And I think every office and department faces that to some degree just because of how many employees we have. So that's my perspective, but happy to have any discussion on it or take direction if you think an update to our commission policies and procedures may be able to address it without adopting a full-on code of ethics that would disqualify a lot of county employees from being involved in doing their jobs. The other thing that I really didn't like about this is at least the conflict of interest defined what an immediate family member was and this one doesn't. And so it's very vague and doesn't have all the defined terms that I think we'd want to flesh out before we adopted something like it.

Okay, Janet, can I hear anything additional?

It's really poorly written. That's the other part.

Mr. Chair. I move that we postpone this one until we've had a chance to review it and our legal counsel has also reviewed it in further detail.

I'll second it.

Okay, I have a motion by Commissioner Fackrell and a second by Commissioner Blocker. All in favor? Aye. Aye. The opposed? Okay, motion will carry then.

Can I get a little clarification on would you like us to come up with some ideas of how to push that pendulum more towards the center of what it was and what it is now? Is that what you're looking at?

I personally, in some cases, feel uncomfortable in conflicts of interest, and I wouldn't mind having it where we perhaps shouldn't vote on certain things and or leave the room.

Okay. Well, we'll work on it and maybe come up with some options as well.

According to state law, we do not have to recluse ourselves. we can actually still vote, but you have to declare your conflict. Correct. That's why he's asking. So as far as the recluse, you know, from that, you don't have to. So like in some situations where, I mean, this was taught to us five and a half years ago, but if we by chance have a conflict of interest and we... I mean, a lot of people do recluse themselves, but we don't have to. You just have to notify the public that that's what we're doing.

Okay, thank you. I think we have the direction we need.

Okay. Okay, we are on F4, F5. F5. F5. Blank.

Yes, I'm just requesting to go to the Utah Tourism Conference in Heber City. And it will be just the registration only.

OK, so you're planning on just traveling then?

That's right. What about mileage? Not even going to take mileage.

Or a county vehicle? I'll just use my own vehicle, if not. So was there a tourism conference you attended this spring?

No, there was a workshop for agribusiness and astro-tourism. Okay, that was a tourism thing. Yeah, and this one here is the Utah Tourism Industry Association annual event. So what did you bring back from the last conference? The biggest thing that I, you mean the last one or the one that I went to last year? Well, either one. Visitor economy. instead of trying to bring businesses into this county and bringing them in as a business that we have a hard time keeping a business even surviving in Morgan County, the biggest thing was is having a visitor economy where we actually bring visitors in from other areas, have them come, stay at our places, stay at our hotels, eat our food, bring them in here on a on a tour basis and then that way we can build the businesses that we have and have an economy based around that versus bringing in other big box stores or not big box but just big other businesses. I mean as many people in here know that it's very hard to keep a business going in Morgan County because we don't support it. And so this way it actually will help support the businesses that we have coming into the valley. And for that reason, that is the biggest thing. I had a person from New York that talked to us about it. He was very, very pleased with what we were doing in Utah for what we have. And he says the biggest thing is if we could bring about a visitor economy versus trying to bring in these businesses, he says you will have more than that. sometimes 10 to 20, 30, 40, 50% higher returns on our money that we put into it versus these other businesses.

So those are awesome ideas. What have we done in the last year to implement them?

That's what we're working on with our Coraggio plan. In fact, not VistaWorks, but Destination IQ. I talked with them yesterday, and they are working and pinpointing everything within the co-op process grant that they're trying to get they're pointing it to directly what our plan says and that is what we're doing right now which brings up a discussion that i think we need to have at budget time as to what we want to do and continue to do with either destination iq or tourism i would arguably say that a lot of these conferences that all of us go to and stuff

have lots of stuff that seem like great ideas that are very hard to implement. I personally don't think that we get the bang for our buck for a lot of the stuff that we spend money on personally.

I think that's what I was getting at. I've heard from residents that are upset about money spent on travel and then nothing's brought back. Is there value in this? I don't know. It's $400, it's not a tremendous amount of money, but is there value in it? I don't know.

I think there's value in learning all we can and opening up our minds, but value in showing up and being there and networking with other people and making those connections that actually bring people to the county. I think there is a lot of value in just showing up and making connections.

And another thing that's been kind of nice, and they have been questioning both myself and Destination IQ on coming up with how we're going to implement bringing in people. One of them is we've got to have public support. And right now, getting the public support is the biggest problem. And as far as our astro-tourism is a very big thing that we could do. we need to find some good storytellers. And because this is a prime, we've got an international dark sky at East Canyon State Park. And with our new property up there, that is another area that is giving us the opportunity to bring more people in for a dark sky experience that has not been done in the past. And these outfitters now know Morgan County is here and we want people to come for those things, which would have them stay in our hotels or stay at the state parks. This is a visitor economy. This is the reason why a visitor economy can keep us rural, which if we bring in all these businesses, we're not gonna be able to stay rural. We're gonna have to grow because then we have to have more rooftops. And that was the one thing that I think that we're hurting on in our county is that we're not trying to stay rural completely. We want to stay rural, we're trying to block people, but that is not the answer to what we've got to do in this county. We need to make sure that we are trying to bring people in and send them home after they've had a good time, two or three days here. or four days, or five days, whatever it is, even within the hunting that we do on private ground. We bring them in here, let's have them stay here. If they want to use the hotel, let's let them use the hotel. So these are the kinds of things that we need to be working on, and that's going to be for the next commission to decide what they want to do, but for now, these are some of the things that we need to really bring about is I think we need to bring in some international people. We had one company from up in Logan wanted to bring them in here, but we don't have any places to turn around once they get to a destination to turn around a big bus. So those are kinds of things that we need to work on as far as how do we do it? How do we come up with that plan? Or how do we instigate the infrastructure that we need to bring in people? Do we have some vehicles around here that could possibly supply you know, a big bus and take them from there and take them to the different locations. Those are things that we could do if we want to try to do that. If we don't want to do that, then we need to change direction. And that's all going to be up to you guys.

Well, Morgan County is already being looked at because of the Olympics.

Yes.

I have friends whose houses are already being rented.

for the 2034 olympics so it's already it's on people's radar morgan county yeah it is where it was not six years ago so and so as i've got a meeting tomorrow that we'll be talking about um Because of the involvement I've had in the tourism, they've asked me to be specifically on a board that is giving ideas on what is the future, what do we need to accomplish for agritourism and agribusiness. Agribusiness is a tricky one because that has to deal with insurance and it has to deal with the state. And there's a lot to do with it. And agribusinesses can't, I mean, our people can stay rural. We can have things within our county in agribusiness if we will just, if we can get through some of the legal stuff. And one of the things I brought back from the last one when I went on that is there was a big long two hour discussion on what is it that you can't, I mean, what is stopping us? from doing agritourism. And the biggest thing is legalities. Because if somebody comes and steps on your ground and they're there to visit the farm animals or to touch the farm animals or pet them or to milk the cows or whatever and they get manure on them, they can sue us. They can sue the individual that's trying to do that. So we're trying to work on some laws in the state to be able to take care of those problems and try to work with that. So those are some issues. Those are just some of the small amounts of issues. If somebody by chance actually hits into a gopher hole, that's a legal problem. Even though they sign waivers, it doesn't mean anything when we sign those waivers. Sure, we've got a little bit more details on it, but those are some of the things that we can have, and astrotourism out there. Somebody might be saying you better move on. So anyway, I mean, justifying what I've been doing over the last five and a half years, this is it. Trying to keep us rural.

Okay, I'll look for a motion then.

Okay, Chair, I move that We approve Commissioner Fackrell's travel request to attend the Utah Tourism Conference in Heber City on October 13 to 16 for the amount of $389. I can second that, but it's only for myself.

So I don't know that that's fair.

I care. You can't? Can I second it, legal?

As the chair, you're supposed to make the talk.

I can't make a motion. I don't know anything that the chair can't.

I'm fine with seconding it for the sake of that. My vote is no, but I'm fine with seconding it. Okay.

I have a second by Commissioner Newton. I don't know if I said Commissioner Blocker made the motion. Second by Commissioner Newton. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Nay. OK. We have Kate.

We really need Garrett to get through this item before he has court.

All right, I think I need to do a little more research on this because just typing the question in, it says, according to Robert's rules of order, the chair may not second a motion unless they are the one making it, which makes less sense. Yeah. So let us look into that a little further. That doesn't sound right. Hey. Take advantage of that. It's got some more power. All right. So this is the interlocal cooperation agreement over the 910 Ranch. This really came from a meeting that was held with some of the commissioners and some of the council members from Summit County earlier this year. And the reason that it hasn't gotten here sooner is really on me. I just hadn't moved it forward, but I've been able to reach out to Dave Thomas, who is the Deputy County Attorney for Summit County, who drafted this. We've gone back and forth on some red lines and really filled in some of the gaps that were only potential at the time, because now the option has been exercised. The land has closed. things have been recorded so that is all updated in the agreement as well as far as entry numbers and so forth so some of the highlights are about not annexing the property notifying the county of future land purchases doing the payment in lieu of tax, and talk about paying the green belt rollback taxes. So unless there's any other questions, this was memorializing an agreement that was mostly reached earlier this year. Or not mostly reached, mostly discussed.

I have some questions. Okay.

In paragraph of the resolution itself, on the second page, where it says, whereas the parties acknowledge that while a county of the third class may purchase property within another county without county's consent, in that last law we passed in the legislature, that is not correct. HB 445. That's agreed. the one we fought very hard for to get, and that is not correct. So that needs to be looked into and determined, okay, what does the law say, because at that point, it says, I mean, without that county's consent, that's not true, according to the law, the pass that just went in a bit, I'm gonna go in May 1st, or May 6th, cannot perform an action provide a service exercise of power and we all know that they can't do that without an agreement with the county but the first part of that second line needs to be looked into and i don't think we should approve it until it does i think that's a great point um this was drafted prior to the law going into effect so with that change um

I think if there's any other questions, we can address them, but I will take that back, and I think that needs to be discussed.

Then the other thing I have is on number two of page three, the rollback taxes. It says in there that some of the county agrees to pay the rollback taxes if they cease to be eligible for Greenbelt under the Utah Farmland Assessment Act. My problem with that, and I'm okay with it, but I have a question is it's eligible for Greenbelt under the State Farmland Assessment Act. They need to make sure that they have cattle going into our end of it where they are in violation of that Greenbelt. They need to make sure that all Greenbelt rules are followed. And if they're not followed, then they will have a rollback tax. So that is another thing that has to be adhered to through the assessor's office.

They've already paid it.

And just to say, you know, under here, this paragraph two, it is specific to the Morgan County side.

Right. But it's eligible for Greenbelt, but they've got to make sure that they follow it.

But it's no longer eligible for Greenbelt, correct? They've paid the Greenbelt. They've paid the Greenbelt rollback.

The $527? No, that was the taxes. Okay. But I mean in future years. They have to still maintain that because if they're not going to do Greenbelt, I can promise you I will be on them. And I'll be on you. And I'll be on the state legislature on it. Because this Greenbelt, if they're not going to approve Greenbelt and really use it as Greenbelt, they should not get Greenbelt.

And I believe that the way that it's written, it's talking about under the Utah Far Land Assessment Act. And so that will fall under the assessor as to whether it qualifies and how those payments will be made.

OK. How would that be? How's somebody going to enforce that and all of that if they're running cattle up there? Why would they stop at our land boundary? I'm just...

I don't think that they would because they're... They'd have to put a fence up. They'd have to put a fence on the county line, which the whole idea of this agreement is that they don't want to divide it. They want to have the entire...

So maybe we just need to remove two because they've already paid the greenbelt rollback and we aren't charging them taxes. based on their they're paying a payment in lieu of tax based on the value of the property at the time on the assessed what it was assessed at at the time of the deed transfer per section three so the green green belt is doesn't the new state code unless you have an mou or interlocal okay so this would be in instead of them paying the taxes they've built so that's built built yeah Because at the time this was drafted, we hadn't been through.

So the only issue, though, with PILT, as I would see it, well, I guess it's not based on Greenbelt, is it? It would be based on the actual value.

It's based on the actual.

That would take care of Commissioner Farquhar's concern that they're going to try to go back into Greenbelt.

And it can be increased by CPI.

Because they can't if it's a PILT payment and it's based on the actual value. Value property. Okay. So, okay, that's good. So it sounds like.

I'm sorry, where is this first section? I'm totally missing it. It's on page three. No, no, no, the first one that you brought up about. It's on page two. Page two.

And it's the third to last whereas.

Whereas just before the course is agreed.

Okay, got it, thank you. Okay, and.

And the reason why I bring that up is because in, when i was in summit county and i watched their or listened to them and saw their plan they had discussed this area as being primitive in this in the morgan county side so if it's going to be primitive is the green i mean is the livestock going to be there or not and that's my question and if they're not then We need to have something in, some kind of teeth in this that says, hey, you're not doing this.

So if it's taxed under that.

Under a PILT, but they're doing it, we're doing that PILT based upon a Greenbelt. No, we're not.

No, because they've already pulled it out of Greenbelt.

We pulled it out of Greenbelt, and they paid the assessment. It's not in Greenbelt.

So the PILT is now based on the regular taxable value, not on Greenbelt.

Correct. But because... these things have happened since this was drafted it's a great point to pull out paragraph two on the rollback taxes because then it resolves the ambiguity of whether it goes back because it's already out so so we can do that as well i think that's good any other concerns on there will point out paragraph seven this is on page five of the agreement top of page five it does talk about the northeast canyon road and this was a subject of discussion at that meeting earlier this year that there's no plans for access on the morgan county side right now but if there were that would be an impact to the county as far as road maintenance so That's one that I didn't bring up earlier that came out of that discussion, that we wanted to have a provision that says if there was a new access to the 910 Morgan lands, that the parties would work in good faith on a shared road maintenance agreement.

And that's on page seven or section seven?

Section seven, top of page five.

Thank you. Oh, that's the one I brought up when we were together?

Yeah.

So that is in here?

It is in there.

Okay, thank you kindly.

And I think on item number six, just a page before that, prior notice agrees that it shall provide Morgan County with 30 days advance written notice of any land acquisitions in Morgan County. I think that is also thwarting the law because they've already done another acquisition. 37 acres or whatever they got but we were noticed in loading in in whatever they call it in holding in holding um and there was not a 30-day advance written notice of that there was and we didn't know about it you got it it was in a consent agenda item this was like last thing Well, either way, I think we need to look at the law on this one to make sure that that is adhered to.

I think we looked at the law on the whole thing.

Well, now it's not right. Yeah, now it's not just a notice. We have to give permission.

Yeah, there has to be permission now. And so with that law change, there are some provisions that should be updated. So we can look at paragraph two, paragraph six, and also the third to last where I was. Is there anything else?

I think just generally, because I've got to the end now, generally we just need to make sure we're following the law. The one that we went and helped pass. So I'll go through that law and just see what we can do to make sure that it's all correct.

So I'll look for a motion to postpone it until the legal's had a chance to apply the new laws to this

Mr. Chair, I move that we postpone the 9-10 cattle agreement, cattle ranch agreement, until a future date. Not a date certain. Unless you decide you want me to do it.

I have a motion by Commissioner Fackrell.

I'll second it.

Second by Commissioner Blocker. All in favor? Aye. Are there any opposed? Okay. Motion's unanimous. Thank you. Thanks.

Thanks, Garrett. Good luck in court today. Haley. I do want to bring up that legal has rewritten what was in your original packet, and that is what you will see on the screen. And the screen that just clicked out on me. Okay.

Good evening.

How are you?

So good. Busy, important, you know.

It's both. Okay. And Commissioner Wilson, at the start of the meeting, you prayed for rain, and it might work.

Oh, good.

I just heard thunder. So I don't know what you're doing tomorrow, but you ought to do it again.

I should have prayed for a deluge.

i don't know if haley wants to do it or me but the horse polls i kind of got those that association coming here and i think legal has re rewritten what they want from the from the horse bowl association and they're okay with that i have it up so i can make any changes and they they will add county on their insurance they did

I think that was two of the big things is county being listed on the insurance and then the clarification of what fiscal responsibility the county had in this agreement, which you added to right here. Yes. 6A.

Haley added that, but we're not going to, we're just going to give them $6,000. They're going to pay their own bills. We are just going to have a loader there to move the weights in and out. The line judges, they're actually supplying them. He goes, if you want to help us, you can, but they are self-sufficient. So that was a little bit of a misunderstanding there as well. But the insurance, they're fine with that. They do this. I'll give you a little background. They are all over the West doing this kind of polls all over. They're actually in Calgary, Canada right now, if you know how big that rodeo is. They're there right now, some of the teams. So that's a big deal if you know that rodeo much. And before they come to us the weekend before they're in Wyoming, they're in Big Piney, Wyoming, doing the same thing. I think it'll be a fun event. What is it? Horse pull? They pull weights. The big draft horses, they have competition on them. Kind of like the truck pulls, but horses, yeah. They have a big sled that they put weight on. Weber County has the same association during their fair, so that's kind of where I get to know them. I've been down to them a few times. Real horsepower.

Real horsepower, yeah. Dave Pike's been really instrumental in getting the prize money.

so I think the thing is. So the one we have in here that is a draft is not the final contract, correct?

No.

No, it's the one that she has on. I think we can fix that at it, and then we can give it to Commissioner Molson when we have it fixed.

Oh, what are we fixing? Need fixed.

Is the insurance, did you say that? I thought there was insurance in there. It's already in there. I put insurance in there. Okay, we're good then.

Nothing like legal, taking a one-page document and turning it into six pages. You're very welcome.

Cowboys trying to make it worse.

I do have a question. I saw some emails go back and forth. Was there going to be a date change?

No, it's going to remain the same. We're going to have to... We've got a good plan to deal with that. Yeah, I think we'll be in good shape. This group is highly desired, so they've got shows other days during the fair week, so that was the best availability we had.

The other added money we have, I think it's another 9,000 right now, isn't it?

Yeah, probably 10,000.

Wow. Prize money.

It's already been collected.

Wow. I have another question. This is in conjunction with what's going on at the fair. Okay, so we're doing this one, you want 6,000 for this, then you want another amount for the rodeo people normally, or is that already,

That's already contracted. This is actually our last year of that contract.

This $6,000 is not coming from the county budget. It's coming from the fair budget. It's not general fund money.

It's fair revenues. Because I was just wondering, because we normally put $6,000 towards the prize money and all that kind of stuff. Oh, yeah.

No, this is not that. This will just be part of our normal fair revenues. You can now the fair budget right here.

We still need the other $6,000.

Seeing motion.

Mr. Chair, I move that we approve the contract with the Utah Horse Pullers Association for the 2026 Morgan County Fair Horse Pulling Show.

I have a motion by Commissioner Newton. Second. Second by Commissioner Fackrell. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you, Haiti, for all you're doing.

I'll get that scanned to you tomorrow. all right so if you haven't been to our fairgrounds a lot of exciting holes in the ground um we've had to um there's been some approved um change orders that i need essentially approved in the correct fashion i.e in a commission meeting um so who approved them i don't know pardon It would either be Mike Vaughn or Brett. Some of these are additions that were caused by the messes we found while digging up. Some of them were electrical additions we needed because we got a bunch of DAF, the Donor Advisory Fund grants, which put in the announcer booth. So then we needed new electrical for the announcer booth. Or we needed now to connect to Morgan City Electrical to have enough amperage. And that wasn't anticipated.

I guess my concern is they're 100% complete. How do you not approve them?

Thank you. I already paid for them. But I would like to follow the rules here. So all I can do is come back.

Well, why are we paying for stuff that's not approved? That's my question.

I was told by one of those three that it's approved. They just were never given a final amount.

And we did talk. We knew when we agreed to the sound system project And when we agreed to the announcer's booth project, well, and the electrical, we knew there was going to be added cost to all of those because the sound system didn't include any of the bid that was paid for by DAF, didn't include any of the conduit runs. And we discussed that here as a commission and said, yes, we know there's going to be added cost to that. We also knew when we approved the electrical bid that any costs for Morgan City, the power company, would not be included in that bid, and we didn't know what those costs were at the time.

I just don't get that. I don't get why we're trading dollars. It just drives me crazy. Oh, with the city?

Yeah.

Well, I guess to be fair, that's an enterprise fund. I think we need to start charging them for everything we do for the Morgan City. It drives me crazy. ticks me off actually not just drives me crazy I know we talked about it but we I think we really need to start putting money in a budget if if we're gonna go over we need to have a certain amount that we're gonna go over and then and put it yeah I mean this just gives an open open checkbook to people, and I'm not saying anybody's being dishonest or anything like that. I'm sure they're reasonable numbers and stuff, but I just don't like the way it went down.

So as we're drafting the purchasing policy and the surplus policy to include our RFQ, do you have a percentage, being that you're kind of our resident expert on what that overshort should be?

Well, usually they put in at least 10%. This is 32%.

That's huge. Wait, across just the electrical?

What their original bid was versus what?

For just the electrical.

Yeah, just the electrical.

Because you're talking about 370.

$35,000 of this has nothing to do with the electrical. It's for the city. No. $31,000 is to the city. That is part of the electrical. But that sound conduit, power and fiber, that's all part of the sound system upgrade. It has really nothing to do with the electrical. It was done by the electrical contractor because he already had open trenches.

So how much do we have in the impact fee for public works or for public, the community?

trying to think what about what about the money that i just saw on the have the money you have the money it's already in that budget line it's we don't have to move any money to pay for this it was more um like hey we have to do things you guys would kill me if i did this let's do this this way at least so i have some documentation for the auditors at the end of the year these expenses were approved whether it's you know forgiveness or permission i would prefer permission but right now all i can do is ask for forgiveness so what i'm asking is is if you can how do you deal how are we dealing with the person that is that is asking for

Forgiveness every time.

These are your fellow commissioners that are asking for forgiveness.

So I don't know what to tell you. I wouldn't say it's forgiveness. I mean, we did talk about this. We knew there was going to be overages. Did we know the amounts? No. But we knew when we approved all of these projects that this was not the full cost.

I still think it should come forth and say, hey, we're going over this amount.

And I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that. But to be clear, It wasn't that it was never approved. I think that's a misnomer. And I also disagree with the thought that it's 32% over, because almost $66,000 of that really has nothing to do with the electrical project.

Why are we having to pay for that?

Well, I guess the $31,000 does, because that's Morgan City fees for the electrical upgrade, because we had to upgrade their transformers to have enough power there. But the other $35,000 has to do with the sound project. It doesn't have anything to do with the electrical project. So you're probably closer to that 10% for the electrical.

So just for the purposes of me, as I'm almost done with this surplus in purchasing, 10%, who would have the authority to allocate that 10%?

I think we would as a body.

So we need to, even though there's a 10%, it still comes back?

Contingency. We should have some type of contingency.

I hear you. I'm asking on the process. It would still come back before the commission to approve the use of those contingency funds? Yeah, sure.

Okay. I mean, we meet every two weeks. Yep.

You think it's that simple?

Except for some weeks.

Yeah, I think it should come back. And so we just, just so it's all on the up and up and it's very transparent.

Okay. 10% comes back to government.

OK, so I guess we're looking for a motion on F8.

No, I have a question along this line. I mean, we're talking about overages and all those kinds of things. I noticed on one of our check edit sheets a couple weeks ago where we had gone and spent money on paint, yet in a commission meeting we had already said that a particular commissioner could find some paint without having to pay for paint because he could get it from a distributor. And yet we went and spent the following week, we spent $1,000 on that. So I'm just kind of curious why that occurred. And, you know, here we're talking about overages. I just kind of want an idea what happened.

All I can tell you is I got a call from Brett. Brett asked me about it. I said, yes, I can do it. I need square footages so I can get it approved by him. And I never heard back. That's it. I don't even know. Maybe you can, if you want to enlighten us, Brett, you can enlighten us.

Exhibit building.

So we never did use the potential free paint.

Can you talk in the mic? You know I'm going to get in trouble. Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett, you know I need you on mic. So we are discussing the exhibit building. Is that what I'm hearing? That's exactly right.

At the fairgrounds. So I had about half the paint already that we had left over. So we used that. So we didn't waste it. And then Joel just added to it the same paint that we had. That's why I never went back and got the free paint.

Well, we could have saved $1,000.

Paint can be mixed together. It did take about twice what we figured.

Okay. So we're back on the other one.

No, and I don't know if it matters, but I will point out none of that funding was taxpayer money. It was all donation money from the quilt fund, quilt auction fund. So it was not.

That's right.

That's for all the quilts you bought. Yeah.

Believe me, I've spent more than $5,000 over the last several years there. And it looks good on that building. If you've been in that building since, it looks amazing. The windows are beautiful. You can actually see out of them now. The new doors are in.

It looks very good. Okay. Well, let's get a motion on F8 because we've got a little off track.

Mr. Chair, I move that we approve the change orders for the J&J electrical bid at the fairgrounds.

Of the 107, is that what it is?

No, it's 87745. Because it shows here 107.

It's the balance due, right?

I don't know. I love you all, however, comma. You have had this for a week. If you guys have questions, you could let me know.

Well, I just totaled up the completed to date. So I'm assuming the other 19,000 is going to come back in another meeting. I guess that's how I saw it. Oh.

Okay, 107, correction. Chained orders totaling 107,492. 87,745, which I have already paid for out of that account.

So is the 19 what's bid but not yet billed? No, that's.

This one is this conduit. He's, it's the 54,747, but it's not completed. As of this invoice.

Well, we need to approve the total amount because we're going to get billed that.

Yeah, so that was my error.

So in the amount of $107,492.

OK. I have a motion by Commissioner Newton.

I'll second it.

OK, I have a second by Commissioner Blocker. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? I didn't hear anything from you, Commissioner Fackrell.

I know.

Aye.

OK. Motion is unanimous. Cindy.

She put the documentation on your desks. Legal. Would you like a copy?

I just want to take a second to thank my amazing staff, Penny, Chloe, and Cindy. Putting on an election is very hard work and takes a lot of time, and she's a rock star, and I just want to thank everyone for their hard work.

I'll second that.

Awesome. Yeah, great.

We have a motion and a second.

Cindy's pretty awesome.

See you. Bye.

if you have not seen the new election room it is completed so the

which are not part of the bid and are a later action item, madam. But what was bid is completed on that specific room. So if you were here at all for election day and you were able to literally sit outside or in the atrium and watch the election process. So that was very, very neat. And I know you sent a lot of pictures to the state and I hope they send me a very big check.

that's our plan yeah good evening commissioners i'm here to canvass the primary election for june 23rd 2026. um at this time ballots cast total is 2 296. i put your statistics in front of you do you have any questions can i answer anything What can I do?

You probably answered this before, but what does spare mean?

Tell me again.

It says spare on the, there's like spare one, spare two, spare three on the sheet.

Oh, that means spare like my USBs, spare. Oh. Like a spare. Okay.

Storage place? Okay. I have a question.

How many ballots came in from the mail after the election was closed?

Received too late, 12 ballots.

12 ballots, okay. Okay, I'm just curious.

I would like to think- How many disqualified ballots? Disqualified? I'm saying cured ballots. When you cure them, we have a problem with signatures, with social security numbers, and we send out a letter. Please come in and cure your ballot. So 20 come in, and 18 are still not, these won't be counted. It's too late. So, yeah. So 38 altogether we send out. With our audit process, I would like to thank Corey Stark, Sean Rose, Erin Bott, Chloe Penny, Casey, for helping us with our audits. We have to come in and do a hand audit count, and they came in on the 30th and helped us with that. And I do have to publicly thank you guys for the beautiful room, our election room. It's pretty dang cool. I was giddy like, yes, I'm in, but now we're out. But we'll go back in. But it's okay.

Did the window get put in too?

Not yet. We're going to be... Oh, the window?

Yes, excuse me. Okay, good.

It's very nice.

So that means next time they can come in through the passenger window?

Yes, that's the plan. Okay, good. All right, so any other questions?

No, I'm always proud of how it happens in Morgan. It goes very well.

And like I said, the primary, it was a 38% turnout, a little low. I thought it would be about 50 or 60. Normally our primaries are pretty high, but not this time. And there's ballots here.

If you want to look at them, you're more than welcome. I just have to cut the seals and we can do that.

Other than that, anything else?

No.

So I will get my paper and pass it around if you guys can sign it so I can get it to the state.

Okay.

All right. Thank you.

Thank you, Cindy. Appreciate it. Thank you to all of you.

And is that okay that phone's not here?

You need to make a motion to approve.

I'll need a motion. Need to make a motion. Mr. Chair, I move that we approve

election canvas for the june 2026 primary election i'll second it okay i have a motion by commissioner or a second by commissioner fackrell all in favor aye any opposed okay thank you luke you're back Majewski, is that how you say it? Majewski. Say it however you want. Well, I want to say it right. Majewski. Yep.

Okay. So last year we had a fundraiser event at the airport, the first event we ever had at the airport. It was extremely successful. Other than the weather, it did rain the entire time. But we still had about 50 vehicles show up, a couple planes, about 250 people. We raised $3,500, 900 of that went to expenses like insurance, toilets, some other miscellaneous things. 2,300 went to the Mountain Green Fire Department, and then 230 went to the airport. this year where i'm seeking approval to the exact same event there's very little changes i've made i've just simplified a couple things same location at the airport the only thing i change is i move kind of where i want people to park we're going to try to have everyone park above the neighborhood and then overflow will be on the airport side if it needs to go into the neighborhood near the houses and i'll have volunteers there to help park cars um i'm also going to i asked the airport for to see if they had money set aside for events to help cover so many expenses i never really got an answer back so sorry i'm like no so my goal is to speak to some businesses up in morgan county and see if they want to donate to the event to help cover those expenses this is more of a question i do have people outside of morgan county that are willing to help sponsor the event but i know since it is a mountain green I don't know if you guys want to keep every business that is sponsored in Morton County strictly.

I don't know that that matters. I mean, we have businesses outside the county that sponsor our fair and car show as well, so I don't think that matters.

I don't think it matters. Hey, we'll take that money. Yeah.

In fact, maybe get all of them from outside. Yeah, as much as we can down there.

Did you change a date, a date certain to all sun and no rain?

We're going for August 29th, two months earlier, so hopefully it doesn't rain.

I thought I heard nothing but positive things about it.

We had no issues last year.

Okay, I'll look for a motion then.

Mr. Chair, I move that we approve the... Conditional use permit for the Morgan County Airport cars and planes fundraiser to be held on August 29th, 2026. I'll second it.

I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Blocker. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? And why do you do this?

For me, I've always wanted to have a car show and have an event, and it's a learning process, and I have some goals in the future with it.

Cool, because you donated all the money. Okay, thank you.

Thanks, Luke. Sorry I was so off on your estimated time. We talked about this last time in Commissioner comments. The airport's insurance is up. The state statute changed, which allows us to be sued up to, us being the Morgan County Airport, up to 3.5 million. Previously, that was two million. In getting an estimate on the cost, because it was so much more than anticipated from our discussion, I thought I'd bring this before you. So you're looking at for the $2,013,714 for $3.5 million, $18,019 for the lowest bid.

How many bids did we get coming in? Two. Just two?

Mm-hmm. And they're both in your packet.

So because we can be sued for $3.5 million? Correct. Cover that or not?

It's up to the commission.

It doesn't require, however. Otherwise, we come up with the difference out of pocket.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean.

So as you can see, it obviously went up. So our previous three-year contract was $11,307. So the new laws, we have a choice.

Yeah, I don't think we do either. All we can do is put it out to bid every time.

Does this come out of the airport fund then? It does. And USIP is who facilitates all this. Okay.

Mr. Chair, I move that we approve the renewal of our airport liability coverage in the amount of $3.5 million.

I'll second it.

A motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Blocker. All in favor? Aye. Aye. No, I'm not. Any opposed?

Some of the things you don't like sometimes.

Opposed to insurance companies, but other than that.

Chanel, your floor.

What does that liability cover? So there's been a lot of back and forth specifically on the recorders.

I don't know why I called you before, the assessor's office on, as you'll remember back when we found mold in the building, one of those offices that it was found in was the back office of Janelle's. And plus, we already knew that under the floor, under the existing carpet, there is asbestos if it is disturbed. It's been difficult for me to try to RFP this without knowing the commission's intent on whether it is open to the remediation cost or if it just wants to, sorry, trying to pull up the image here, or if you just want, or if you're even open to her replacing the carpet as it was, this was not, anticipated in the capital projects fund for this year but obviously when we found the mold and we had other places tested the small office did come back positive it has not been remediated because it did not qualify under the emergency remediation because it is not an inhabited space we just wanted it to sit there and sit there it does and there it does So Janelle has gone out and gotten an, that's a terrible word, gotten.

We had another bid come in.

Obtained, thank you. Another bid, yes. Child hanging out with teenagers, okay. Which was, and this is just for. The remediation. Remediation.

Of the asbestos, not the carpet. Of the small office. Not the carpet, the whole office. The whole office.

The whole office. Which would then need to, we'd also have to go out for a bid for flooring. in addition to. To replace all the flooring. Correct.

And we're not going to disturb the existing floor. That's remediation. That's the remediation.

That's the remediation and then it would be costing.

So that's the question. One, as your county manager and it's your budget, the capital improvement project budget, am I okay to go out for bid for remediation and flooring? Nothing?

And the ACS one, what was that other one? Do we have the other one too? So that was the disaster company of just remediating the asbestos. Just to remediate the floor.

One question I had on that, it says tear out the asbestos flooring, but then in parentheses it says no haul off. Are they expecting us to dispose of it?

I don't believe so.

We should probably verify that. To me, no haul off means they're going to leave it here, right? That would be. And it says that for each section, it specifically says no haul off. So I don't know what that means. But anyway, we should double check that.

That seems fair for remediation.

Yeah, why would you remediate it and then leave it? Maybe it means something else. Well, they just wanted to leave us a gift. It's not Susan in charge, but whoever hauls it off. Because it's Morgan.

It's a mink farm row on it.

So maybe they don't want to take responsibility for the material, for disposing of it. That would be interesting to compare the other bid. I mean, yeah, let's at least verify what that means.

Well, it's not a bid. It's just an estimate. It's an estimate because we've never posted it. It's just another one.

Yep. Because that was the estimate that we got in February.

So if we don't disturb the floor at all, do we have to? I mean, we wouldn't have to have the remediation.

There's no way of not disturbing the floor.

So this is going to be the same quandary we're going to have on the next action item for Leslie?

So they did have haul off on this one.

OK. Because there's no way where that seam is between Leslie's election room and her room. It's already broken. It's already disturbed. So there will be remediation of some kind.

So how much do we have in the capital improvements funds? Or do we have it? Or capital facilities or capital management or one of those?

Last time I asked that question, it said zero.

I mean, you've already committed it. You have money, it's committed.

I think we just need to put it in the budget for next year's.

be budgeted $808,744. The bulk of that is the addition, and that also included the remodel of the recorder's office earlier in the year.

I do have some in my budget that I'm willing to sacrifice if needed to. How much? I could probably go 10, 10,000 of it. So it would still be 20,000 that we're still figuring out.

Is it going to hurt your ability to continue doing what you need to do?

The only issue that we keep having is my staff keeps getting sick. Right now I have two people that have strep throat in July. So we do a habitual circle of getting sick.

Is that cause for movement? He's wondering if it's going to cause issues. How are you going to do your work while they're doing it?

Where are you going to be relocated? Oh, the commission room.

Which is a little busy right now. It is right now. Because it's booked for the room.

I mean, obviously, I've already waited four months, five months of this.

It would just, so in trying not to convolute and yet convoluting, in your next action item, it's the same question for the clerk's office. we're gonna have someone in any way remediating one way or the other. Do we do it all at once and hopefully get a chunk discount because we're doing it all together?

Because we're doing it in mass or if we do individual projects.

So how much more of this building do we need to continue to remediate and get rid of the flooring? A lot.

A lot. The entirety of it.

Well, part of the attorney's office is done. Yep. The recorder's office is done. I thought we did all of the attorney's office. We did not.

And I know that the treasurer got new carpet not too long ago. Four years ago?

When we did that renovation.

Four or five?

Four or five years ago?

The new election room is done, and the old Coyanne's office, now court office, is done.

If there's even a thought that people are getting sick on this, pull the funding from the general fund balance and let's do it. I don't want to postpone it simply because I would rather just get it done. And who knows if that's the cause of anybody's illness or not, but at least we'd know it's taken care of. So my motion is to approve the remediate, at least approve to go out to bid for mediation in both of the offices.

Would you like me to also see too, though, if I can give some of my budget towards it?

Let's talk about, yeah, if there's an opportunity there, if there's some other funds elsewhere we can move around to do it, great. If not, then we.

There is also the EPA Brownfield program grant. We don't qualify. Do not qualify as a county.

I looked it up the last time you said that.

Why don't we qualify?

We make too much money. Our average home is way too high, just like our CDBG got to, yeah.

Okay, I just need a second on going out to bid.

Sorry, it was just to go out to bid for remediation in both.

And that's for both offices, right?

It needs to include haul-off like the one.

Yeah, I guess technically we need to, approve them separately because we have two different items here. So I will amend my motion that it's to approve to go out to bid for remediation on the asbestos flooring in the assessor's office specifically. Okay, so before we have to do a second. Well, if it's the same thing, why don't we add Well, the next action item is the other one, and I think we ought to do them.

My second still stands.

Okay.

I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second.

Before we go past that, why don't we then at least look at the whole bill view, find out what it's going to cost, and then determine whether or not we want to do that. One at a time.

I'm not opposed to it, but I don't have anywhere for anyone to go.

20 bucks a square foot. I just did the, it's about 20 bucks a square foot. So we can, that's a lot of money.

That is.

But let's just work to do as much as we can.

We talked about doing it a little bit at a time and chipping away at it. Okay. So I had a motion by Commissioner Newton. to go out to bid on F-12. Second by Commissioner Blocker. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay, motion is unanimous.

Okay, same question on 13A. Didn't know if you wanted to vote on them separately. The other is now that she got her... Thank you, Janelle. Now that she... Sorry, now that the Honorable Leslie Clark has... Leslie, good Lord, I cannot talk today. I promise I'm educated. Now that she has her election room, she realized she doesn't have all the shelving she needs for all the ballot types, because we had how many ballot types?

100 something, no.

But then with the quantity of ballots and then the number of envelopes for each of those, so the ask was to do an additional change order, which is on your desk, for a built-in shelf, which would essentially block the view of the beautiful brick building two inches from the window. So it's not really blocking anything important. But essentially, where the windows are now, that would all be shelving.

So we need an RFP for this. What's the dollar amount on this, or do we?

Did he give us an estimate?

Because we have a design from the cabinet.

Did he give you an estimate, Leslie? $4,579. $4,579.

Do we have any money in the budget? Do you have anything in your budget by chance, Leslie?

sorry we're asking you questions thank you look at you follow instructions probably i'm just a little concerned about other things i'm going to have to pay for once they do my clerk's office construction So I'm kind of nervous.

Such as filing cabinets, new desks. We looked at her desks and are pretty confident that when we move them out at the end of the month, they will fall apart.

They're only 20 years old, I'm sure.

And they're a wonderful part of the board.

And they were hand-me-downs when we got them.

So they've served their purpose. But the fire department is very excited to see what they can salvage.

Yep. Did you get more than one bid? I know it doesn't go over five, but did you get more than one?

We did not. No, this literally was a discussion like the day this agenda item was due.

We just really want to get the election room finished. Right now, like she said, we're looking at a brick wall. I just think it'll finish it off with some shelves, which we need to put ballots, envelopes. Time is definitely of the essence at this point. We have another election knocking on our door, and we have to move out of our office for about two months. So we're going to be... We're mates for a little bit. I'm sorry.

But we'll be in here for a little bit. But anything we can lock in that space is stuff we don't have to find other locked space that only she has access to. Yes.

Well, I think you could go out and forbid and require a time period of when it has to be done. And it would only take a week for bids to come back. I think we have plenty of people right here locally that would bid it. If they can't do it, then we go with the other bid. I just think it's, I just always think it's worth.

In that, could I ask for a cap?

Yeah, I was just gonna say, what if we just say, we approve the funding not to exceed $4,600. That's fine. That's worst case scenario, right? Let's go with the low bid, not to exceed that.

As long as we... Because Leslie Madd is not an office environment we want to work in.

Well, that would expedite the ability to get it done.

We will be vacating our vault for the recorder's office, and we're gonna take most of our vault, put it in our election room so it is a secured location. The recorder has graciously approved, or volunteered some space as well, and our fire department has also volunteered to come and move some heavy items, and I greatly appreciate everyone's willingness to help us out during this time. And you as well. Thank you for our lecture. I'm like, Cindy, I just want to reiterate what she said. It's amazing. And we've had a lot of compliments on it.

Even as loud as the construction was, especially when they're putting in the bullet resistant. Oh my gosh, that was so loud. And she's like, it's the sound of joy.

It is. I'm not going to complain. So thank you very much.

OK. Mr. Chair, I move that we approve to go out for bid for remediation and flooring for the existing clerk's office and approve the purchase of cabinetry for the election room for ballot and envelope storage in an amount seeking the lowest bid in an amount not to exceed $4,600. Second.

I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Fackrell. All in favor? Aye.

Aye.

Motion is unanimous. OK. We are on F14, almost halfway done.

Well, we started at four. Good gravy. That's my page. All right. Let's appoint some people to the Ripple Range Advisory Board. Kelly Petty was nominated by Mike Newton and Commissioner Milton Vieiro was recommended by Commissioner Fackrell and Matt Fairbanks was recommended by Commissioner Blocker.

Okay.

This would make, if all three are approved, this would make your Rifle Range Advisory Board full at seven members.

And the nice thing is we have five members from the community.

Correct. Okay.

Okay.

Mr. Chair, I move we approve CR26-33, appointing Kelly Petty, Matt Fairbanks, and Milton Vieiro to the Morgan County Rifle Range Advisory Board. Second.

I have a motion by Commissioner Newton and a second by Commissioner Fackrell. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion's unanimous. OK.

Commissioner Blocker, I will gladly be your clicker. I just put in the packet what you sent me. I just put it in a Word doc instead of all the emails. Oh, that's great.

And I don't need to go through it all. It doesn't mean everyone's read it. But I attended a data summit 101 class put on by the Utah Association of Counties where they educated us on data centers. Many of the counties that were there were surprised when the first time they heard about data centers was an application was submitted and they had no process put in place, no code that discuss data centers or anything. So we're highly encouraged to maybe add this to our code, to our process, and have something in place. And sorry you didn't get my email, Josh. You did? Okay, okay. Oh, you don't have anything to say? Okay. So some of the things we discussed were water demands, noise pollution, electricity. Moving forward, data centers will be on their own electrical grid. They have to provide their own electricity because Utah State's were full. So I don't see a data center coming to Morgan County, but it would be nice if we were prepared. So these are just some of my notes that I took during that summit. If you guys have any questions or anything you want to add or take out, I was just hoping that we could try to get something in place.

So what is the, so your ask is to draft a, because there were two things you were asking.

an overlay zone, and a land... Well, these are my notes of different ways you could do it. I'm not the expert here. Josh, you are. Maybe you have some ideas.

Do we even have the room for a data center?

There can be small ones.

There are small ones, yeah.

The average one uses between 5 to 10 million gallons of water per day. And any data center that tells you that they're a closed system is lying to you. So we had... You lose about 25% water per day.

We had Red Butte there that spoke to us and they're claiming their 600 square foot building uses three acre feet of water.

That's a lot of water. Three acre feet. They use it in acre feet to make it sound small.

Their landscaping is 15 acre feet, but a football field uses way more than that.

Three acre feet of water is a lot of water.

That's not daily though. I think it was a monthly.

That's more water than an alfalfa field is irrigated all season long.

It's a lot of water. Question I have on it. I know we don't have the need here. I mean, we don't have potential of a place, but we do or could. I think the idea is a great idea. I just think we need to make sure that the public understands what a data center is. and um when they start fighting against a data center coming to any place they need to realize that these things use it and if you want to get rid of these things i guess we don't need a data center if we don't and get rid of these phones or other kinds of data um then yeah we're gonna have to all help in that and um i'm okay with the

idea and what we need to do i would update your code with a text amendment with very stringent requirements and criteria that would even allow it so that it restricts where it could even go i would treat it like a sob a sexually oriented business and i would clearly define exactly where you want that thing to go if you want it at all i think that's smart that's very very oh absolutely um Our code is pretty sparse right now. If one came in, I probably could find a land use that I could argue is similar and hold them to our commercial code. But again, we don't have anything in our code that would talk about water usage, water recovery, recovery into the aquifer, anything like that. So I don't know. I would get something in there.

OK.

I think the information you gathered, by the way, is amazing and super helpful and informative. So thank you for doing that.

Yeah.

And then I guess the motion would be to direct staff to work on developing code amendment to add data centers.