About this meeting
- Government Body
- Animal Control Program Advisory Board
- Meeting Type
- Animal Control Program Advisory Board
- Location
- Monterey, CA
- Meeting Date
- May 28, 2025
Transcript
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Here, I'm calling to order this meeting of the board of supervisors for May 28. Let the record reflect that all members are present with supervisor Askew joining us shortly. At this point, I'm gonna ask Diego Celis to go see announcement of the interpreter. With Adam and Chief Supervisor Lejo doesn't mind leading us in the pledges this morning. I'll turn to the clerk to see if there's any additions or corrections.
There are none.
Thank you. Next up is public comments. This is an opportunity for the public to share comments regarding items not on today's agenda, so letting folks know this is not about the budget. If you're here for the budget, that time will be later on today. But just want the public to know this is your opportunity to make comment on items not on today's agenda. We'll allow two minutes per speaker. Invite folks to use a raise hand function or star nine to be recognized this time via Zoom or come forward in room. Mike.
Good morning, and thank you for your time and service. My name is Peter Barrage. I'm the vice president for MORCA, the Monterey Off Road Cycling Association. We are the mountain bike advocacy group for Monterey County, and we've been delivering positive impacts to our community since 2002. Members of our board joined the Monterey County delegation that traveled to Washington DC in 2012 to secure national monument status for Fort Ord, and we play an integral role in the Sea Otter Classic, which generates 85,000 visitors and 70,000,000 in economic impact.
I submitted a longer public comment via email, which I hope you will read. It lists more accomplishments and includes a fact sheet with links to data. I'm here because our community needs your support. In the past decade, cities, counties, and community leaders across the country have invested in mountain biking for two reasons. There is more research than ever demonstrating these investments pay back, and right now, there is historic funding available for mountain bike projects.
People for Bikes unlocked 755,000,000 in bike project funding since 2009. California Bike Coalition provided 1,100,000,000.0 for bike projects in 2020 alone, and Shimano's new Trailborne project makes 10,000,000 available. Right now, Friends of Laguna Seca is finalizing a facilities management plan for Laguna Seca that will balance racetrack needs with recreation area needs. If mountain biking isn't included, it will unlock significant funding, planning, development, and maintenance resources. Those funds could offset costs for planned infrastructure improvements to parking, restrooms, and campgrounds.
Mountain biking could save the money during development, return money through tourism, and celebrate the recreation side of Laguna Seca to the benefit of locals and visitors. Despite clear community input in favor of bike access in new places like Pala Corona and City Of Monterrey's old capital site, decision makers keep voting against bikes. Including bike amenities in Laguna Seca master plan would provide significant savings, generate proven return, address equitable access to trails. This is a win win win opportunity for Monterey County, and we can't afford to miss. Our community needs your help championing this vision to the Parks Commission. Thank you,
mister Birch.
Thank you
for your time.
Anybody else in the room? Hands up via Zoom? Seeing none, we'll close general public comment at this time, bring it back to the dais. As we jump into this morning's scheduled matters, I just wanna take a moment of personal privilege to congratulate all graduates out there. My son's graduating this morning from TK to Kinder, and so I'm just little emotional that I can't be there. But I know he knows that, I'm doing important work,
but I just wanna congratulate all graduates this morning. With that, we'll jump into, item one to receive a presentation from Barajas.
Were there additions and corrections, Val? I didn't think we had it. All three. Alright. Perfect. Thank you.
Good morning, chair Lopez and board of supervisors. I am Ciomara Barajas, chief deputy auditor controller. And on behalf of the auditor controller's office, I'm here today to ask your board to adopt the resolution for fiscal year twenty twenty five twenty six, GAN appropriation limit. This resolution is brought forward pursuant to article 13 b of the California constitution, which requires appropriation limits to be adopted at the regularly scheduled governance meetings. The appropriation limits have been calculated by the auditor controller's office for those, board governed jurisdictions determined to be subject to the provisions article 13 b and are shown in the attached schedule provided to you.
The documentation and calculations are available for public inspection at the auditor controller's office. The documentation and calculation, or the general and library funds computed appropriation limit for fiscal year is $968,065,139 This concludes my presentations, and we are available for any questions that you may have. Thank you for your time.
Thank you, Sumada. Questions from the dais? Seeing none, we'll go to the public, see if there's any public input on item one this morning. Seeing nobody coming forward in room, no hands up via Zoom. I'll bring it back. Is there a motion to approve? So moved. Motion from Alejo.
Second.
Second from Daniels. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. The motion carries. Thank you. With that, we're gonna jump into item two, resubmit a presentation from the HR department on Assembly Bill two five six one required local public employee vacant position, announcements, and we'll send that out to our staff here, Andreas, with a couple presentations to follow.
Okay. Good morning, Chair Lopez, members of the board. I will be presenting the status of vacancies and recruitment and retention efforts for the period 05/01/2024 to 04/30/2025 as required by Assembly Bowl two five six one. To my left, have Kim Wuer, my assistant HR director, who will be assisting with the presentation. Next slide.
I'm going to be talking a bit about the requirements of AB two five sixty one workforce information, recruitment information, recruitment challenges, vacancy information, and then ending off with bargaining unit specific information. Next slide. AB two five six one, which was adopted in January, has got two distinct requirements. The first is a disclosure of the status of vacancies and recruitment and retention efforts. It requires MMBA local agencies to present the status of vacancies, recruitment and retention efforts during a public hearing before the governing body at least once per fiscal year.
Presentation must be made before the adoption of the final budget and it also must entitle a recognized employee organization to make a presentation at the same meeting. The second requirement is if there is a bargaining unit, if the number of job vacancies in a single bargaining unit is 20% or greater of the authorized full time positions, the agency shall include the following information in the public hearing at the request at the request of that recognized employee organization. Total number of job vacancies, total number of applicants for the positions, average number of days to complete the hiring process, and opportunities to improve. As you can see later on, we did not receive a request from the specific bargaining unit that meets the threshold of 20% and above. The workforce information is currently for the fiscal year twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five.
We have 5,954 budgeted authorized positions. I'm gonna briefly walk the board through the recruitment process. It is basically a five step process. First step would be a request for referral from the hiring department. We'll then develop a job announcement, an examination will happen, final selection, and then the employment offer.
A little bit more detail about how vacancies are created and a few other in the steps. So vacancies are created in many ways through a voluntary separation, retirement, involuntary separation, internal movement, nearly budget positions. A request referral really means that the department is indicating to us that they would like to hire and then we will work with them to full determine ways to fill the vacancies. There are various ways to fill them. They can be through recruitments, transfers, promotions, flexible promotions, which I'll get into a little bit later.
Job posting is part of that. We'll either advertise on social media sites or various areas that we will target for recruitment. The exam phase can be several steps, supplemental questions, written exam, oral exam, performance exam. It can even be something like an application review. Once that has been completed, an eligibility list is basically put together with those people that are eligible for hire and that is then given to the departments.
HR and the hiring department collaborate to issue a referral which consists of candidates from that eligible list. Employment offers done by the hiring authority and then, of course, you have the final job placement. There are many ways to fill a vacancy. You just don't fill a vacancy through an existing eligibility list. You can do it through an open recruitment, promotions, flexible staffing, limited term appointments, trainees, reappointments, rehire.
And, yes, even through a voluntary demotion, you can also fill a vacancy. So there are many ways other than just a recruitment to fill a vacancy. The numbers I'm showing you right here is for the county in total for all departments. As you will need to note that they are both intern, they are both centralized HR department, which is us, and we provide services to about 17 or 18 departments. And they are decentralized HR departments that basically do their own recruitment.
So in these numbers, this includes both. So there were two thirty seven recruitments conducted. Some recruitments can have more than one vacancy attached to it. An example is sheriff's deputies. You do one recruitment but you might have 20 vacancies for trainee sheriff's deputies.
So there were six sixty two hires that happened, two thirty one flexible promotions. A flex promotion is if, for example, you're a unit flex series, you're a management analyst one and that's a flex series, you can be promoted to a two without actually a recruitment having to happen. And then, of course, there are comp promotions if we have a supervisory position and we are advertising it for a promotion. So briefly, our recruiting challenges. One challenge you would not see there is one of our challenges that we as a county are trying to do something about but is very difficult is, of course, the cost of living and housing within Monterey County and the lack of housing as well.
However, one of the key things that we did identify was that the base wages of various classifications were having an impact on recruitment and retention. Thanks to the board's approval, we have actually completed a base wage study project and that was about a 107 different classifications that we did. And we are in the process of implementing that over a four year period. Hopefully, we will be able to move the needle a bit on this. The other issue is or just one thing I need to mention is not just those base wage studies.
Currently, there are base wage study requests that have come in right now, so we are working on those as well. Then the county identified that there are some recruitments that are required to remain open for a minimum of thirty or sixty days due to the GARSA consent decree. The challenge with that is if you have a recruitment open for sixty days, by the time you get to interviewing people and it's a position that people can find work in the private sector, what they will do is just say, well, I've already you've taken so long. I've already found another job so I'm no longer interested in this position. Vacancy our current vacancy information, just to give an idea, in this year, we had 333 voluntary separations, 138 retirements, and 69 involuntary, which gives us the 540.
However, vacancies can be created in another way as well, not just by separations. You can have internal transfers. You can move somebody from department a to department b. Now what you've done is you've filled the vacancy in department b, now you've created a vacancy in department a. So that's also a way vacancy is. Vacancy is also created through comp promotions. If I promote a senior analyst to a supervisor, now the senior analyst position is is a vacancy. So that's how vacancies get created. Newly budgeted positions, those are vacancies and then, of course, voluntary demotions. I was a supervisor.
I volunteered to emote back down to an analyst. Now that is a vacancy. Now I'd like to get to the vacancy information. I do need to stress this is a snapshot in time. This is as of 04/30/2025. Like anything, we are a living, breathing, dynamic organization. So, therefore, every pay period, these numbers change. But the act requires us to just do a snapshot in time, and this is a snapshot in time. And as you can see, of all the bargaining units, it ranges from 0%. I'm not gonna get into each one of the details.
What you will actually see on this on the second page, if you go down to q, you'll see there's one bargaining unit where the vacancy rate was 33.33%. Now that looks like a very big percentage. However, they only have six authorized FTEs. So if you have two vacancies there, you will have a 33% vacancy rate. Now based on AB two five sixty one, that bargaining unit could have requested us to do a little bit more detailed presentation.
They did not. However, if those bargaining units reach out to us, we are more than willing to work with them and with labor to provide them whatever necessary information they do need. As you can see, there are really none of our vacancy rates at that date of 04/30. That was above the 20% threshold. We're looking at some of
our
competitor agencies. This is our vacancy rate as well within benchmark that we have. Does it mean that we can't do more efforts? And human resources is working closely with its decentralized human resources departments to try and address these efforts. Chair Lopez and members of the board, that concludes my presentation and it is open for questions. Thank you.
Right. At this point, we'll take questions, but then know that we've got two presentations requested as part of this and so we're gonna take those then there'll be another round of questions. At this point, is there any questions from the dais? Alright. Seeing none, we're gonna go out to the first, presenter I have here is SEIU five two one regional director Olivia Martinez. We'll give you the floor.
Good morning. My name is Olivia Martinez. I'm the region two director for SEIU. So although we don't meet the threshold, we are concerned that I think we're one of your largest bargaining unit with the number of vacancies. During negotiations in the summer, I think we had approximately 700 vacancies.
Today, we have five seventy five. Our concern today is that the county wants to cut the vacancies, right, instead of on funding them. When you cut a position, it's harder for a department to come to you to add positions. When you're cutting positions, you're also not looking at the workload of workers. So the work does not go.
Right? For social services right now, that group of workers are under immense stress. So I've been diving into the different departments to really understand what is going on. Right? Just as a reference, I'm a formal CPS social worker, so I understand the work very well.
So for CPS Family and Children's Services, when you have vacancies, that has a direct impact on the children in this community. So for example, you have emergency response unit. When you have a social worker that has 90 children in their caseload as a backlog because they're not able to close the case, because of workload issues, staffing, people on LLA, it means that they've done the investigation, but the children are still in that log waiting for the caseload to be closed, meaning they're still at risk, meaning that the county is still liable for these children's safety. We've been talking to the department about what Santa Clara has done around creating workload, caseload standards that work in order for the workers to be able to provide services to the family. Children are able to return to their homes.
And some of the research says that it has to do with the social worker, right? The social worker being able to manage the case, being able to provide the support to the parents that are trying to get the children back. If you look at Santa Clara versus Monterey County, right, or Santa Cruz, right, an ER social worker in comparison has perhaps seven cases, meaning they have seven children in ER. Your workers here, there's numbers. They've gone down through the work, but not sufficient.
So they're still in a rotation but have 90 kids in the backlog. 90 children. That's a lot. It's a lot of responsibility for you all. Right? You've had a couple of deaths already, and so I really want you to reconsider cutting positions in social services. Now going to community benefits. That's a disaster right now. You are the worst in the state in terms of, you know, your rating. You are the worst.
Monterey County is the worst. I don't know if you know that, but you are the worst per the state, not per me. Per the state. So right now, your workers are working under such a punitive environment. And I've gone to every single work site because I like to provide you facts.
Their caseload in some cases are 221%. That's a lot of cases, right? So this means that food stamps, Medi Cal, general services, right, are being impact to your most vulnerable in the community. If you're cutting those positions, then you you cannot have this punitive approach to your workers. Right?
But in my analysis and kind of figuring out what's going on is that the state is coming down on you guys because you guys have errors. Right? Errors and errors and errors. So then what management does is that then they're coming down to the workers. You mentioned your kid, Chair Lopez. My background is also child development. And so when you think of kids, right, and making errors in school, right, they don't learn by you hovering or being punitive to them. They learn by a different kind of environment of support, kindness,
right,
and looking at the areas of growth for them. Well, you're not doing this to your workers. You're not providing the training that they need. You're hovering, you're punishing, and you're being punitive. And so what we're seeing is that their errors are more and more and more.
Many of them are on LOA, you know, because they cannot withstand the anxiety and the stress because it's a cycle now. Right? And so it needs to stop because you're not gonna get out of this hole of where you're at. So the vacancies have a real issue, right, for the social services but all of the department other departments as well. We're asking you that you be considering not cutting vacancies, right, because for whatever reason, you cannot your budget does not meet, you know, you don't have the money.
Unfund them for a while because the work is not leading is there. I also think that you should really talk to your county officer, Della Rosa, to look at her own leadership and to see whether they need training in their own leadership. Because in these departments and where social services and human kindness is necessary to make a difference in the community, some of her leadership does not have the leadership to guide workers or their departments in a way that they should. And sometimes that's about training, but sometimes it's just not the right fit.
So just to time check, I know we allotted five minutes before we're sitting at seven minutes right now.
Alright. So that's all I wanted to say. So we appreciate your consideration, and thank you.
Alright. Thank you. We're gonna go to the DA Association's representative Steve Summers next. Steve, floor is yours.
Thank you, members of the board. We wanted to address you one of the things I wanted to share with you was the legislative findings of a b twenty five sixty one. They state that job vacancies in local government are a widespread and significant problem for the public effector public sector affecting occupations across wage levels. They say that high job vacancies impact public service delivery, and the workers who are forced to handle heavier case workloads with understaffing lead to burnout and increased turnover that further exasperate staffing challenges. May finally finish with there is a statewide interest in ensuring the public agency operations are appropriately staffed and high vacancy rates do not undermine public employee labor relations.
I don't always agree with the legislature, but I do agree with all that because we've lived that. Back in 2023, in early twenty twenty three, the county council's group, public offenders, and the district attorney's group saw what we knew to be understaffing. We were losing our best and brightest to the higher pay counties in the Bay Area, and we were short staffed, and we ran the numbers. We comp used our comparison counties. It took us about an hour, all public record.
We saw that we were over 20% underpaid per the county's own policy, listing the comparables counties. So we put in a request in March 2023 for a wage study. That request was completed in April 2024. The calculations that took us an hour took the human resources department thirteen months, and they had to go outside their agency to get those numbers. Now did we get those numbers in April 2024? We did not. They refused to share them with us. When we entered our bargaining sessions, we said, we need to know those numbers. We want that survey. They refused to give it to us.
We ultimately said we will stop negotiating until we get that survey. That's the important part of what we're dealing with. And in September 2024, almost a year and a half after we requested it, we got the survey. Now they didn't include Alameda County because they said they couldn't possibly figure out how to compare a public defender in Alameda County to a public defender or a district attorney in Monterey County, but it showed that we were 17% by their calculations below the the Bay Area, something we'd known for a year and a half. And their solution to that is, and I understand budget constraints, over the next two years, many of our other agencies, over the next four years, they'll try to catch up to the numbers in 2024.
So in two years later, we'll have a pay that will compete with salaries in 2024. That's a problem for us. We are the we were on that list. We're one of the highest groups. Our attorneys are leaving.
And the people who the our attorneys who leave are our best and brightest, our most experienced, our most qualified, go we had one one of our best attorneys leave for San Mateo County just a couple months ago. He got a $70,000 raise. We had another attorney a year and a half ago go to San Francisco County. He got a $60,000 raise. We're backfilling as best we can, although we are failing with new attorneys who they can't handle the heavy case loads.
They can't handle murders. We can't throw someone just out of law school into a child sex case or a murder case. And so those of us, I've been here over twenty years, are handling more and more cases. And the reality of that, this is what I want you all to understand, we are making choices not based upon what should be done, not based upon what we want, but what we have to do. There are cases we just don't file because the amount of resources that would go into making that case work would mean that three or four other cases would go short.
There are cases that we don't go to trial because we can settle them for less than they're worth, but at least that's one less case we can deal with, and we can deal with the other ones. It is delusional thinking that we can be down 17% of our staff and not have it affect public safety. It is affecting public safety. There's just as many defense attorneys. The public defender's fully staffed.
Private counsel's still we're coming up against this is an adversarial system. We're coming up against a fully staffed defense bar, and we are understaffed. The consequence is we take shortcuts. My boss probably can't say that publicly, that's why I'm here to say it. It what is happening is affecting the safety of the community in Monterey County. The police officers send us cases, and we ended up not filing them, and they get frustrated. I don't blame them. They worked hard on it, and we just don't have the time to deal with some of their cases, or we sell them out cheap. And that is happening every day, and it will continue to happen until we get back up to staff. And now we're told that, oh, one of the ways we can fix the vacancy problems is just eliminate the positions.
I guess the numbers work that way, but we'll still be understaffed. Thank you. Thank you, mister Summers.
And I know we had, some folks from the park rangers as well that were wishing to make comment. So I'm gonna go ahead and give them the floor at this time. I believe we have two representatives via Zoom. If we could give them the floor, I wanna say it's, John Anthony and Tyler.
Hello. Can you hear me? This is John Anthony.
We can hear you, John.
Alright. I just like to add, I've John Anthony, County Park Ranger supervisor and president of the Monterey County Park Rangers Association. I've been with the parks department for eighteen years and a total of twenty two years with Monterey County. And to kind of follow-up on what my predecessor spoke about, we waited four years to get the results of our compensation study with three attempts and refiling it to finally get it, and it came back to us a couple weeks ago. With the rate that we had been getting paid, our recruitments were dismal.
When I first started and first started as a supervisor, we were getting 200 applicants. And with what we were at, we ended up being at getting twenty, twenty four applicants for the job of county park ranger. And without these filled positions, it adds up to a lot of extra overtime and a lot of services that aren't provided like we used to. We don't have night patrol in our parks seven days a week. We don't have a dedicated boat patrol at Lake San Antonio.
As this weekend, I was the solo ranger at Lake San Antonio from eight in the morning till 02:00 in the morning when the night shift came on. So with not having these positions filled, it really cuts into the amount of workload. It adds to the workload that we as park rangers are conducting, but it also severely cuts the amount of public safety that is provided to our customers here in the park. So working to fill these positions, and I'll speak later in our budget as to the augment augmented positions that are coming up later, we really need to keep our staff as full as we can. And we actually have seven full time positions now until the end of the month when, if not approved in today's meeting, we'll be down to five.
That's really all I've got at this point. I believe, my partner, Tyler Decker, was gonna speak.
Tyler, I'll give you the floor.
Can
you hear me?
We can.
Good morning. How are you guys doing today?
We're good. Thank you, Tyler.
My name is Tyler Decker. I'm a park ranger three. I've been with the county for seventeen and a half years now, and I'm just advocating for the county ranger positions. These are very important positions. Currently, as it stands, we only have five full time positions, which makes patrolling our parks very difficult.
Three days of the week out of seven, we do not have any coverage in North County. So that means there's no customer service. There's no one to respond to calls for service. Search and rescue, yes, we rely a lot on the sheriff's department, but they are not park rangers. We So don't have anyone in our parks for three days a week up north.
South County, just as importantly, we don't have anyone we are only designated nights and boat shifts Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Midweek, we have one ranger patrolling, two if we're lucky. So it makes it very difficult to do our job. Midweek is important because with waters fluctuating, we work on both lakes, marking hazardous areas, placing buoys. And working on the water is inherently dangerous on any body of water, but you need the staff to make sure it's safe for working with heavy buoys, hundreds of
feet of line. And even though it's a lake, you're dealing with waves and wakes. And we need
the staff to make sure that the the patrols get done, but
also the maintenance gets done as well.
This weekend, it wasn't as busy as years past, but we did have a decent weekend, and I'd just like to go over a few of the stats that we had. From Friday to Monday, we had one hundred and thirty three quiet hours violation contacts. We had 94 ground fire contacts, nine traffic stops, 72 vessel stops, 11 vessel terminations for safety issues or incompetent operators. We had 21 contacts for quagga mussel violations. We, we responded to two crash detections, three medical aids.
We had 80 customer service contacts, four public assist, four vessel tows or vessels in distress. We responded to three physical altercations. We had four evictions out of the park. We contacted, multiple minor in possessions, and a subject for furnishing alcohol to minors. During our patrols, rangers also responded to a physical altercation where a male subject, was involved in a fight, and he brandished a knife in a threatening manner.
Rangers responded, immediately and handled the situation after investigating the call for service. The subject was later arrested. Later that night, rangers were flagged down by a female subject stating that a gentleman put his child in the car, a young child under the age of five years old in the backseat, and drove away from North Shore. She also reported that that driver was extremely intoxicated. Rangers were able to locate that vehicle driving on New Plato Road leaving North Shore Lake San Antonio and observed multiple moving violations.
They conducted a traffic stop, and the driver was later arrested for child endangerment and DUI. His blood alcohol content was over three times the legal limit. These are the things that rangers are dealing with on a daily basis. And even though these numbers seem like we did quite a bit on a Memorial Day weekend, this is more of the stats that we get on an everyday weekend for four months of the year. So these rangers' positions are very important, and I'm hoping you guys make the decision to fund these. And that is all I have to say.
Thank you, Tyler. Alright. With that, we'll go back to staff. Any final words or anybody I missed?
No. No final words from our side.
Alright. Back to the dais. Comments, questions on this report? Okay. Then by receiving the presentation, we have completed the requirements of two five six one. As you heard, most of these are requests for the budget, which we're about to undertake. So we'll proceed forward with our agenda this morning. So we're going to officially open the public hearing to consider our fiscal year twenty five-twenty six recommended budget. Actually need to go back on the last item too and see if there's any general public or any public comment on item two. Ara, did you have public comment on item two?
Yes, chair. I I just wanted to take a moment. Thank you to convey the water resources agency support for the request from the rangers for augmentation. The, you know, in addition to the the the vital and and significant public safety work that they do, know, reservoir owners up and down the state are now also having to contend with the spread of, golden, mussels. And so we are needing a a expanded enforcement, of the mussel, inspection program on the reservoirs, and the rangers work in that area is vital to helping avoid the the spread of golden mussels mussels into Nacamiento or San Antonio reservoirs.
So a slightly different aspect to their work, but an important aspect nonetheless. And so I just wanted to convey that, for you all. So thank you for the opportunity.
Thank you, Ara. Any other hands? Alright. Seeing nobody coming forward in the room. No other hands up via Zoom. We will proceed to open the public hearing to consider our 2526 recommended budget. I'm gonna send it to our CAO to give us some introductory comments.
Thank you so much. And joining me today is Debbie Palinelli. She'll be providing a presentation, and Raquel, who is in the office, will be, also listening in. She is our budget director, in an interim capacity, and Debbie has taken on the role of the budget preparation along with Raquel and our budget team. I do wanna begin by thanking our entire budget team, includes the CAO staff and also fiscal teams across the county.
We have a total of 26 combined office and department budgets that were put together for this budget. This is my third budget as part of, this county of Monterey. We started in 2324, and now we are discussing today '25 and '26. We have been very hands on when it comes to the budget. Both of us, Debbie and I, have were not here three years ago and are in the process of learning the structure of this county, but also understanding the needs of the community and also our department's ability to do their work.
The folks that are behind the scenes as well are administrative analysts, Tricia, Veronica, Trent, Isabella, and also Rocio, our executive staff person, are also listening in and have made this, preparation possible today. We also wanna recognize the 5,000 some the 5,000 plus employees, almost 6,000 employees of the county who have are executing the work that is included in this budget, but also all the work from many, many years of service with the county. Many of our team, I wanna say over 500, have been with the county for over twenty years. And in addition to the the dead people that are behind the scenes, also include some of our new department heads, and, of course, supervisors Church and Daniels also have joined us, as members of the board, supervisor Church joining when I first came into the office. And since '23, we have 12 new department heads.
Those include elected folks and also appointed folks by myself or the Board of Supervisors or the court, such as our our probation chief Jose Ramirez, and also the UC Cooperative has recently appointed a new department head as well. I wanna start by stating what the recommended budget is. It is balanced. It is $2,300,000,000 spending plan, and it is being presented today to the board of supervisors for the purpose of review, modification, and also adoption. In a nutshell, this is a very iterative process.
We presented a budget that safeguards every field position, at the request of the board of supervisors, but we will continue working through this budget until adoption and even thereafter. The budget itself is a 609 96 page document, and it does include the general financial policies that were adopted by the board of supervisors, and 455 of those pages are the departmental budgets. What it is not is set in stone. So I just wanna be clear that expectation is that we will update the budget, but we put it together solely focused on the field positions being, being saved, and then there'll be additional support that's needed and understandably by the departments. And those will be the request that come forward today.
So in terms of purpose and our motivation, we are governing by leadership and not by crisis. We understand that there are quite a few things going on at the state level and the federal level, but we are preparing for the strategic reduction of our workforce, but also at the same time looking at opportunities to address our current needs. We have been tasked with reviewing, improving, and demystifying the budget process to ensure that what is accurate and timely and that we share information frequently. We have heard from our elected department heads and also from our appointed department heads, and we understand that they have been tasked with a difficult challenge. We have updated our strategic plan.
It's not included in this budget, but it will be in future budgets, and that was also put together through our electeds and also our appointment appointed department heads. We have begun the use of AI. This has been, you know, our I'm sorry, artificial intelligence. We're using chatbots in some instances, but also looking to streamline processes. And in every instance, the employee is still gonna be needed.
It's not gonna be a replacement of employees. It's gonna be an addition to the work that we do to serve our community. We have prioritized capital projects to ensure that we're able to address the needs of our community and also the departments, and we're also looking to prioritize our housing and community development processes to try to stream streamline the permitting process, but also other services that are provided by that department. At the county level, we collaborate not just when there's a crisis, but throughout the year. So I do wanna commend the work of all our department heads and our electeds to try to work together to bring together a budget that safeguards as many positions as possible, but also reinvent reinvents ourselves.
I do wanna just add additional information that was provided by Leon Panetta, our secretary of defense from 2011 to 2013. He gave us key goals on 03/06/2025, and those goals were to focus on what needs to be done, to work as a team and ensure we're all going in the same direction, to be honest about ourselves and who we are because all of you know who we are, and you know what's going on. And, also, to ensure that we're honest with others, especially those working for us. Debbie Palinelli has worked on numerous budgets. This is her first budget for this county.
We have worked collaboratively. I have crashed course into a deep dive of all of your budgets and trying to understand the services that we need and understanding that we need so much more. Every decision that was made was decided collaboratively and informing all of the department heads and our elected officials. They were some decisions that we knew were difficult to make, but we understand that that's what's expected when you're in leadership. So today, I just wanna make sure when there will be a lot of questions that you follow-up with us as much as you can and continue to provide directions so that we can make our better our budget better and really our structure better better.
So with that, I'm gonna turn it over to Debbie, and she will guide us through our budget process. Thank you.
Hi. Good morning, Debbie. Are you closer? Okay. Hi. Good morning. Debbie Paulinelli, assistant CAO. On the screen, I'm gonna start with the my presentation for the budget. In the middle of it, there'll be provoke workers will come in and do a presentation with the capital projects, and then we'll hear from the departments after that. So just a little bit in brief, just an overview of how the budget process works.
We start with the department forecast, and we develop an additional baseline budget. From that baseline budget, departments will conclude whatever they can in the baseline, and then they'll anything extra, they'll add as an augmentation request. Those augmentation requests are then, considered and by the by both during the budget workshop and by our office, and we bring forward a recommended requested budget that you're going to see today. So just starting with the fiscal environment, there's all sorts of stuff happening out there, obviously. And as Sonia mentioned just a little bit ago, a lot of those things are not in our budget.
They are also not in the state budget at this point. So there can be things that trickle down from federal to state, and then we see them fall to us, and there may be revisions that are needed later. Of course, there's the outstanding tariffs. Interest rates are still expected to remain high. We still seem to have some growth recession.
And like I said, the state economy is $12,000,000,000 deficit, and that's not including anything that may come down from the federal level down to the state and then on to us. Some of the state budget impacts right now for health. There was a reduction of Medi Cal related expenditure growth, including freezing the CPI adjustments for county administration, eliminating family planning and supplement payments, eliminating prospective payments to clients for state only services, eliminating long term care, implementing a drug rebate rebate, ag, and pharmacy utilization management in addition to pulling revenue from prop 35. And then on the state budget as well for social services, there's been some reductions in in home, support services, which referred is to as IHSS. A lot of times, nine products percent reduction there and some caps on overtime and travel for that, for that program.
Housing and homelessness, bringing families home and home safe continues to remain without ongoing funding, and there is no mention of the HAP seven per round or HAP for round seven. And then Medi Cal, there's a reduction of a little bit there to administration, a small little local reduction, and freeze on the CPI adjustments. And then a couple other things going on there with some enrollment freezes for young adults 29 to 49 and 50 and over, and then elimination of the long term care benefits for individuals with unsatisfactory invitations immigration status. Local risks. You know, this isn't something you haven't seen before.
The general fund discretionary revenue growth is not sufficient to keep up with rising costs. That's been kind of a consistent theme in the last couple of budgets from, what I've seen. And all the available discretionary revenue growth is recommended in this budget, as Sonia had mentioned, to maintain the current staffing and service levels at the amount that we can fund them at. We did use one time monies to fund this budget, which is never ideal, but all filled positions are funded and some additional services that were part of the augmentation process, and we'll go through all those in a little bit. Keep in mind the strategic reserve levels are at 58,600,000.0, which is 5.8% of the budget, and the target balance is 94.3 or 10% of the estimated actual revenue in this budget.
We are not recommending anything to go to that reserve at this point, but that'll be a different conversation come December, January when we get the or sorry. November, December when we get the fund balance numbers. So as Sonya mentioned, the the budget is balanced. Negotiations with all the bargaining groups, almost all the bargaining groups have been completed. There is a new measure, measure AA, as everybody knows, that was approved by the voter voters, which implements a new 1% transaction and use tax in the unincorporated county areas.
And as I had mentioned before, state and federal impacts are being analyzed, and it could be adversely impacted '25, '26, and beyond, but we'll see that as it comes down. And then as a reminder, the onetime funding sources of ARPA and unassigned fund balance have all been used, and they're not available this year as they were in the prior years. So the total budget is 2,270,000,000.00 in appropriations, and there's an increase of 255,200,000.0. What I really wanna explain here is a lot of this change is what's you'll see on this slide, which say talks about change in budgeting for cost plan. As we were implementing our new system, it was decided that instead of doing the cost plan as a contra account that we would put in a revenue and expense line, which instead of netting it, made both those numbers very large.
Since that change and this is what I kinda wanna talk about. Since that change, it has been decided that we're gonna go back to the contra account. So even though this budget shows these big numbers and these big swings here, of the 78,000,000, when it comes back in the adopted, we are going to adjust it so that it's back to the original contra account numbers. It's just an accounting change. So outside of that, the big change here is the change in salaries and benefits most, which is the 79,300,000.0, and then some intergovernmental transfers for Natividad and some higher operating transfers out.
So the big the big the big picture here is the salaries and benefits. And it's increased by the same down there, the 2.2 financed by the 2,200,000,000.0 in revenue. And there's about a 130,000,000 in general fund. That's not just discretionary, but all general fund growth in Natividad, some realignment growth in behavioral health. Here's a big picture of all the funds.
So you can see the big picture there. A general fund is your big blue, slice of the pie right there, followed by natividad. And what we're gonna concentrate, going forward mostly right now is gonna be that big blue slice, which is the general fund. Same slide as kinda before, just taking out the general fund piece. So 1,000,000,000 in appropriations this year, and like I said, a 131,000,000 over the prior year, 65,000,000 of that is that cost plan change, and there's the increase in salaries and benefits right there at 48.9.
Some increases in homelessness grants, entitlement programs, clinic services, and public health. Same funding and revenues on the bottom, the 59,000,000 for the program revenue, 60,600,000.0 in that cost plan change, and then 11.1 is the increase in discretionary revenue, which is what we really have the most say over. This budget also uses 19,200,000.0 of one time funds that are going to the following departments. There's a $10,500,000 true up for the health department after some reconciliations that they'll be using their restricted general fund money for, 2,200,000.0 in social services for community programs, 650 oh, 605,000, safety restricted, public safety programs. Then if you remember during the budget workshop, I talked about the 8,400,000.0 in the contingency assignment reserve.
Of that, we're using 5,400,000.0 of that to balance this budget. There's about 202,000 in the cannabis for the climate action plan that was actually budgeted last year and wasn't used and is just being rolled forward. 125,000 for some compensated absences versus the community request, and then a little bit of the 22,000 right there that was pulled from the capital assignment for some voting equipment needed in the elections department. Other inclusions in this budget is 6,500,000.0 from the TOT or to the road fund. That is a decrease in 3,100,000.0 from the current year adoption adopted budget, but that does cover their MOE payment.
2,200,000.0, contribution from the TOT is going to the DSAs. That's a reduction of 843,000 from the current year. And 4,100,000.0 and 2,200,000.0, from prop one seventy two to the fire agencies and nine one one dispatcher user agencies. This is a pie chart of the general fund and how it's split out by department. Social services and health there, the most of their funding is restricted, followed by sheriff, probation, and then the rest of the departments you can see listed around the pie chart.
So cost drivers. Our biggest cost driver, as I mentioned before, is salaries and benefits. They grew 45,900,000 in the current year, about an 8.2% increase. This is due to negotiations as well as some base wage studies that were included. They that wait. Just on the wages, it's about 352,000,000, an increase of 28,000,000. That is not the benefits that are included with the just, wages. And these these numbers do include some salary savings by departments of 33,700,000.0. This is a slide that, you know, we've seen before. This is our pension, contribution trend.
So these are based on CalPERS actuarial reports, and you can see the blue is the normal cost of the plan right there, and then the unfunded liability as the yellow part, which, increases up and down, right, with with the market. Costs are projected to grow throughout to, twenty thirty, thirty one. Here's that unfunded liability, a little bit different picture. Estimated liability for the 2023, which is the most current actuarial report, $1,000,000,000. It's 63,000,000 more than the prior year.
It's due to investment losses. CalPERS uses a 6.8 investment return assumption. And so if they don't make 6.8 that year, then those numbers go down. If they do make over 6.8, it goes up. You could just look at this chart right here, and you can see that 2021 was a good year for our fund, and other years are not.
But that number can go back and forth depending on the market. We are planning on using this year $6,300,000 from the 01/2015 plan to pay for the increase in unfunded accrued liability. The idea here is to keep that level and to keep it steady for everybody. And then if if there's a year that's really good, so let's say it's a twenty one year and it goes the other way in our favor, 6,300,000.0, we've put $63,300,000.0 back into the one fifteen plan. The general fund, health insurance premiums, those have been a big part of the increase in the budget.
Historically, we've covered a large portion of the annual increases. As you can tell in 2425, there was a larger chunk in, covered as well as increases in health insurance from CalPERS. Had a lot to do with that raise, and so there's a big spike there from '23, '24 to 2425. And that was all part of the negotiation process. So the general fund reserve, this is the total revenues right here, or sorry.
The general fund revenue trend. Total, general fund revenues are your purple line, and your little blue dotted line right there are your, nonprogram revenues. The general fund, it it is projected to go a 130 a 130,700,000.0 in twenty five-twenty six. Remember, the cost plan charges are a big chunk of that once again. So 60,000,000 of that is cost plan charges, leaving an increase of 70,100,000.0.
59,000,000, we saw that number earlier on the slide, is program revenue from federal and state aids, is growth, and up in 15,000,000 more in realignment funds. So the discretionary revenue right there is like it was a different slide earlier, had the 11.1 on it. The largest increase in that discretionary revenue is property taxes at 10,800,000.0. So here are your general fund discretionary revenue drivers. Your 10,800,000.0 up there, property tax being our biggest change from last year to this year.
Everything else, semi stable. That transaction and use tax there for 1,800,000.0 is measure AA funds that we brought into this budget to balance the budget. And then the one, that would stand out as well as the federal aid on the bottom is ARPA funds that are no longer available. So those have been, have been all used at this point. So as I mentioned in the beginning, we started with baseline and then departments put in augmentations.
In this budget, the departments put in a $121,000,000 in requests, an augmentation request. And on this sheet, you can see the categories that they put in. One of the things on here are capital improvements. Just as a note, capital improvements, that number is not included in our requested budget and will be considered today separately. And I will have public works help with that those slides later.
Here is the same 121,000,000 summarized by fund, general fund up there at the top, and then also the capital projects are still in this one, but general fund being the biggest with some small numbers in the other, health and, the animal services. Here's the requested augmentation summaries by departments. Largest request coming in from the sheriff at 30,800,000.0, followed by public works, facilities and parks at 7,200,000.0, the district attorney at 4.6, and public defender at 2.9, Social Services and Department of Emergency Management. On this slide, can see the $64,000,000 is down there at the bottom, and that's for the capital projects that I had mentioned earlier. So we took all those, and we came up with some recommendations.
And these are our recommendations that we did, and this is starting with how we funded them. So you can go to the left. We used 1.873 of the AA funds. Funds. We used that little bit of the cannabis assignment that I had mentioned for the climate action plan earlier. The compensated absences assignment is the one for the community projects. The 5.4 is the contingency reserve from the original 8.4 that I had said during the budget workshop. There is, 1,000,000 there in discretionary revenue. I had mentioned during the budget workshop that that was some, revenues that came in higher than expected. That capital projects, is the 22, for the equipment in elections.
And then we, reallocated some GFC. There was just extra GFC that was in people's budgets that they had left that we could still use. And then that redirected TOT is from the DSAs and the road fund that I mentioned earlier, and then some restricted funds that came in for some projects. These are recommended augmentations by departments. You can see the totals right here.
So 3,200,000.0 in the sheriff's office, 2.9 for the public defender, 2.8 for the district attorney, 1.5 for social services. It's funding 75.1 FTEs. There the positions were all funded with general fund money. If there was positions out there that needed no general fund money, they were considered funded, and we included those as well. So those are the 13 positions on the bottom and other funds that that we funded.
General fund augmentations, total of 62.1 FTEs are recommended, 50.1 positions in the sheriff's office, district attorney, and public defender, and DM. Three are left un funded and vacant or unfunded in the assessor's office, and then nine new, nine new positions funded by program revenue down there with health and public awareness planning and the district attorney, bringing us to a total of 13.1 in general fund augmentations. This list is long. It's kind of up there for, reference, but these are all the positions that were funded. I don't plan on, everybody memorizing those, but they're there for your reference.
The other recommend the other recommended augmentations were these that were mentioned during the budget workshop. And what we did is we did a 25% reduction in all of them with the exception of the general plan, and we funded them at 75%. These are funding sources. These slides you're gonna see the slide two different ways right now. So this is funding sources by department.
So if you look, you can go down this list and you can see each department and what type of those original revenues that I that I said were used, and you can see which department got what of what of what revenue. These are the positions by department. We're recommending a 116 for deletions with 79 in social services. These are all vacant positions. Let me start with that.
All of the filled positions, like I said earlier, have been funded. 28 in the sheriff, 10 in the district attorney, nine in child support, and the list is right there on on the right. So these are the unfunded augmentations. These are the ones that did not get funded there from the original request and did not receive funding. These are 42,000,000 of them, as you can see, were not funded.
You can see by what department on this chart we did not, who requested and did not receive funding in the recommended. These are the unfunded by category. As you can see, all the filled positions on this list are gone as they have all been filled with during the requested or recommended budget. This is a long list. This is another one of those that I said is probably just kind of for your reference at this minute because you're not gonna memorize this whole list, but it is four pages of everything that was not funded that was requested by the departments.
So now we're on unfunded capital projects, and I'm gonna share these slides. They're actually John's slides. I don't think John's in here, but he's online. Okay. So I'm gonna turn these slides over to John and let him explain these to you.
Thank you, Debbie. John Snively, administrative operations manager at Public Works Facilities and Parks. I can speak to these slides, and I will just note that these projects, as with everything else in the county, is part of a, you know, a living work plan and living document. So I have a spreadsheet version of this, which thank you, Debbie. I'll pull this up quickly.
Just some minor updates since those versions were shared and staff continues to update this worksheet based on the most current available information to provide the board with information needed to make informed decisions. The CIP these are this is an expert excerpts from our capital improvement plan, which we will be presenting in further detail in June at the adoption. What I have here is a snapshot of the facilities work plan just to give the board a sense of some of the other projects that have funding and are going into the fiscal year. Really, the focus today is is those unfunded projects that have been raised through budget workshop highlights and other other requests. And the the purpose of these of this table is to provide the board with the worksheet so they can make determinations of which capital projects they would like to allocate fund for $78 to.
So there's a there's a lot of other pieces to the CIP, but that's really the focus. So what you see here in this first section is simply the funded facilities work plan for next fiscal year. I will note that some of those projects do have rather large estimated unfunded needs in the future. Some of those are still preliminary estimates we are working through. Others are pending further discussion about scope, but that just gives an idea of what staff is planning to work on in the coming fiscal year.
The discussion today focuses more on these sections here below. I'll start with the projects here, budget workshop highlights. These are capital projects that are unfunded for fiscal year twenty four twenty five, twenty six, and that at least three supervisors recommended be returned to the budget hearing for the board's consideration. We've had them sorted by the dollar amount of their funding request, and I have a column here showing the fund $478 when the board is prepared to make decisions and what they would like to to allocate there. I also have a running balance of what we believe the the estimate the placeholder estimate from CAO's office for fund April so we can track how much money there is to spend down as we go through these projects.
Briefly, these projects include the COVID memorial, some scoping and estimating money to further assess the maintenance and repair needs down at the King City Courthouse. There was a project to do some repairs at the juvenile division building restrooms. Staff is recommending that the board consider a smaller amount for better scoping there. This this dollar amount of $2.37 is based on a 2015 assessment. It's been escalated, but we'd like to get in there and make sure we have a true sense of the scope and need for funding there.
And then we have the Pajaro Mansion and a certain smaller dollar amount to finish the emergency repair work due to the floods, an unscheduled maintenance line item, as well as the larger Pajaro rehabilitation project for the 2nd And 3rd Floor access and re remodel. And then finally, funding to complete construction of the new Bradley library. So those budget workshop highlights are about $10.510600000.0 dollars. In addition, PWFP staff have a number of projects that they are providing a supplemental recommendations to that list, and so those are found below. Those include the a project for JLADA work in in those facilities.
This is a placeholder amount of 2,500,000.0 to initiate some of the remediation work that is needed there. We also have HVAC repairs and replacement at the Schilling Campus. It is a $4,400,000 ask, but staff notes that there are six subtasks within that project. And if the top three priorities were to be funded, that would be about 2,500,000.0 of that 4.46. In addition, some solar projects that are planned at the 168, West Allisau campus have increased the urgency of repair and replacement needs there, and those include a parking lot replacement and a roof replacement project.
And staff is available to go into further detail on those projects if the board desires. I'll keep it high level at this point. Finally, there are two other projects that since the budget workshop, have had significant changes to their needs, and so we wanted to highlight those here. One is some laboratory HVAC work that was originally part of funded this coming fiscal year through a federal grant. However, that funding is no longer available, and so the engineer's estimate and and project cost is listed there.
And speaking of solar projects at one sixty eight with Salisau, there was some soil conditions identified which would increase the cost of that project. The sustainability office is looking to cover that within the project budget with some scope revisions, but we do list it here as it's it's recently become aware that that may be an unfunded need. Finally, we have a line item as a 10% contingency based on that fund $4.78 starting balance. And so at the at the time that the board desires and wishes to discuss these capital projects, I can pull this worksheet up and track the the projects that the board approves. So I'll stop there and turn it back over to Debbie. Thank you.
Okay. So back to me. Okay. So, like I these are some known administrative and technical corrections that are gonna come between the recommended budget and the adopted budget, and the biggest one number on number one there is the cost plan change. That is gonna be, like I said, a $78,000,000 change when it comes back.
So when people look at the recommended and then look at the adopted, I don't want it to look like a huge surprise. Also, there's about six positions there. As I mentioned earlier, this is the first year of a brand new system for us, and we were working through some of the bugs of the system. All of the money for these positions are in the recommended budget. It's just the words of their titles didn't make it over, because of the way we were moving titles.
And so those will be corrected. We found those, and those will be corrected in the in the adopted budget. So a couple questions that always come up are the TOT allocations. And just to kinda give everybody a chart here to look at at the beginning, there is a history here back to twenty seventeen, eighteen. The top part are the DSA allocations, and the bottom are the road fund allocations.
And what was recommended in this budget for the DSA allocations is to bring them back to the 2223 actual year. And then also for the road fund, it's not bringing them back to any year, but that 6,400,000.0 is covering their MOE. These slides, I just have them on here. They are basically just what is in the recommendation of the actual budget item, have the budget hearings, making some changes for some, for some DSAs, the road fund, the kind of everything I went through on the budget. Number five is in here.
It is, moved as rec as as recommended or as suggested by the board during the budget workshop to not be part of the TOT anymore and just moved into regular critical needs. And you can see the four the four items that are getting funded there. And then the rest of these are just oh, that's interesting. The rest of these are just basically letting us make changes and all the things I went over in my slides. So the next steps.
So this is the what is actually available for the board to do today. Of course, there are redirections that the board can do at any time. If there's programs that are not mandated and the board chooses to discontinue them, they can do that and to redirect that money to other requests. The contingency appropriation is funded at the 1% per our general policy, general fund or financial policies. That total is 8,700,000.0 for 2526 this year.
The cannabis tax assignment still has about 1,300,000.0 available in it. And then the balance of the contingency reserve fund is that 8.4 that I said we used 5.4 of. There's 3,000,000 left in there. And then finally, of course, there is the Measure AA funds, but I would recommend being very conservative with these because we don't have a track record of what this is gonna look like yet, and we haven't even collected our first dollar. And I I just don't.
The estimates that we originally had had already been decreased by the consultants by a little bit, so I just I'm not a 100% sure on how that's gonna come in. Looking ahead, just something I kinda wanna put out there now just because of how tough this year was and how to just kinda struggling to find some money. At the end of the year, the budget year end, there's always a fund balance left over, and we tend to, you know, say, oh, we have extra money. Let's put it to all these things. Our office is gonna really recommend saving a portion of that.
I mean, up I mean, up to at least $10,000,000 so that when we're doing this next year, that we at least have that because the 8,400,000.0 that I had this year will be I already used 5.4 of it, so that we'll have some more money next year and make this process a little easier, hopefully. This is a question that comes up a lot. This is an updated slide. We talk about FEMA reimbursement status. They have DEM has been working really closely with Cal OES they and public works, and they've come up with a revised schedule on what they think we may be getting back from FEMA.
That number on the bottom right is the number 17,700,000.0, but it is not all general funds. So keep that in mind. There's some will return to other funds such as the road fund. It'll go back to the funds in which the original cost came from. And that is the end of my presentation, and I will let the department speak now.
So housekeeping. Just want wanna talk about process here. I know we have folks from the public wanna share. We're gonna take public comment after the departmental presentations. Those will likely take us through lunch based on the time frame that we're looking at today. I'm gonna let departments know as well. We I know I sent out a strong recommendation request ahead of time that we stayed at ten minutes. I will give you a visual cue when we hit ten minutes and ask you to wrap up. So I'm just asking folks to honor that ten minute request this year. And then in terms of process, we're gonna work through the board of supervisors I'm sorry, the county budget first.
And then after we conclude that and take public comment and make decisions there, we'll come back and take up the other budgets that are before us as well. You'll note that there's quite a few of those. Those tend to go a little faster, so I'd like to get through the county's budget overall first. So that's how we're gonna take this on. So at this time, I'm gonna invite foe invite forward social services director Rod Franks to make their presentation.
I think Becky is gonna be joining, Becky Kromer. At the end of each presentation, I'll invite the board to ask any questions that they may have and just ask that we refrain on any of the sausage making till all departments have completed their presentations.
Take notes.
Good morning. While we're pulling up our presentation, I'd like to thank you, chair Lopez, the board, administrative officer, county staff, and the public for the invitation to speak to you today on the Department of Social Services budget. With me, I have Becky Cromer, finance manager three, our department finance director extraordinaire, as well as Adam Erhabi, who is serving as the acting military and veterans affairs officer. I see that our presentation is up, so we'll move through. This presentation, we should be able to get through within the time limit.
It's pretty similar to what was presented to the board at the budget workshop. We'll be going over what you see here, baseline budgets, some of our impacts, the augmentation requests, and we'll wrap up with Adam presenting on the military and veterans affairs. For fiscal year 2526, we are looking at a recommended budget for the department of 369,200,000.0. That would also include a staff complement of 852 positions. You can see that budget is broken down into three general areas.
Our program administration, close to 200,000,000. Our community programs, about 13,000,000. And then a large entitlement program, 160,000,000. Our budget is broken down into, a few funding categories. You can see that about 92% of the revenue that we receive comes from federal and state funds and the sales tax realignment.
Only about 7% of our budget is from county general fund dollars. And the next slide shows how that number is broken down. The largest portion, a little over 15,000,000, really goes to our entitlement programs. The next largest is to administration of our programs, and then you can see military veterans affairs in our community programs as well. So one of the largest cost drivers as we were building this year's budget, very similar to what was presented earlier, was the increase in employee costs.
So if we were to take all of, the employees that are currently on the books and add in all of the increase in salaries, benefits, overtime pay, temporary costs for temporary employees, you can see that we would have seen an increase of about $29,000,000 from our current budget. The graph there shows the red line as our staff complement, which is maintaining pretty level, and then you could see the projected increase in all of our employee costs. Next slide. So how do we deal with that? To maintain the integrity of the current fiscal year twenty four twenty five budget, we've had to sustain a vacancy rate of a little over 14%.
That has equated generally to about a 125 to a 100 and positions that we're maintaining vacant at any one point in time. I'm very proud of our staff. They show up to work every day. They work really hard serving the residents of this community through all the various programs and services that we provide, and we really wanted to find a way to bring as many staff online to assist in that process as we possibly could. We had, opted for the 14% vacancy rate in the current budget in the hopes that the fiscal situation would improve over time, that there would be increased funding from our state and federal partners for the programs that we administer, as well as additional local funds to assist us in funding our programming.
As we've seen from the earlier presentation, that's just not the case. That's not how things have played out, and it looks like we will be experiencing that for some years to come before we would see significant improvement. So to address those realities, we took a look at our current vacancies, and we are, putting forward a budget where we are reducing 79 of those vacant positions and then leveraging that to keep 44 positions that are currently vacant and to fill those positions going into the next fiscal year. We've already started working very assertively to fill and those positions and bring them online as quickly as possible. So two of the augmentations that we requested during the, budget workshop were for out of home care assistance and we're very grateful that the recommended budget includes funding in these two areas.
So thank you very much. Funded at 75%, but we believe that we can handle the unfunded balance moving forward. We do have three augmentations that were not included in the county's recommended budget. It's for a few positions, two positions in social services aids to really assist us in our outreach efforts for our community benefits program, and then, one employment and training worker to assist us with the increase in case loads. At any time in economic down downturn, we do see a significant increase in those that would be requesting assistance and looking for employment, and so we would be looking for some assistance there.
I'd like to point out that you wanna slip back? I'd like to point out that we are able to leverage dollars from our state and federal, partners, and so the total cost of these three positions is about $375,000 but to actually fund them would only require about $185,000 So we're going to flip through just a few of our program areas and highlight Our Community Benefits program serves about 262,000 individuals in our county, administering about $200,000,000 in just CalFresh and CalWorks benefits each year. You can see a picture of our new outreach van. We have delivery of it. We've been bringing that around to various events throughout the community and plan to, assertively use this new tool to outreach to all corners of the county.
Our CalWORKS employment services, which I've indicated before, is probably one of our our most beneficial in assisting people, out of poverty and into self sufficiency. And then we've also mentioned our in home supportive services program. You can see that almost 7,000 individuals receive in home supportive services in Monterey County and of the 8087% of the providers are family members who are caring for their loved ones. So at this point, I
we have one
more slide, Becky?
Nope. We're good. Okay. Thanks. At this point, I'd like to call Adam Erhabi up to the podium to, talk to us about the military and veterans affairs.
Good morning, chair Lopez, CAO Della Rosa, members of the board. Excuse me. So what does your veteran service office do? We support, assist, and advocate, provide services for veterans, their families, and the military community. Our core services include benefits counseling, claims development, and submission.
We are the only accredited agency, both nationally and state, in the Monterey County, and we serve about 23 and a half, thousand veterans, active duty service members, National Guard and Reservists, and their families in in Monterey County. In fiscal year 2324, we served just shy of, 3,000 unique veterans, filed 5,700 claims, and were awarded about 1,900 disability compensation claims totaling in $19,800,000. So today, I'm standing before you on behalf of Jack Murphy and to offer our thanks for your support, CAO DelaRosa's support, and the community's support. Your continued support allows us to accomplish our mission for serving the veterans and their families of the county. Thank you very much.
So now we're getting to the questions. Actually, the slide I was looking for is after the questions. So you'll be able to see it in your presentation if you have any need for information regarding our homeless programs. Before we move into questions, I'd just like to talk a little bit about some of the work that we've been doing in the Department of Social Services, in the last year or so. It has been brought up that there's some concern about vacancies.
Very true. The workload tends to increase for us in times of economic downturn, and we need to be braced and ready for that. In our family and children services department about, oh, I'd say less than two years ago, we had vacancies of over 25. We currently have just six vacancies, That is due to the cooperative work that we have been doing in the department. We meet regularly with our union partners, our creative leadership from the department leadership, and hard work has really led to some very innovative solutions to bring that vacancy rate down.
And in addition, in that same time, our, case backlog has almost been cut in half. And so it really speaks to the diligence, skill, and hard work of our workforce and what can be done when we actually work together with all of our partners. At that, I would, be willing to stand for any questions.
Nine minutes and fifty five seconds. Well done, director Franks. I did right? Alright. Way to set a trend. I'm gonna go down. I I know, supervisor Daniels had a question, so we'll go there first.
Thank you. You talked about removing the 49 vacant positions. I'm sorry. The 79 vacant positions, but then you're filling 49. Does that mean there's a going to be, in this year's budget, an increase of 49 new staff members filled?
So we are cutting 79 vacancies of the 123 that existed, and then we are filling 44 of the vacancies.
44.
And so, yes, the end result is not new positions because these were positions that were part of this current year's budget but unfilled. We actually will be filling 44 more positions than what have been filled in the current fiscal year next year.
That was my that was my question. So 44 new 44 filled formerly vacant positions.
That's correct.
Thank you.
Any other questions from the dais? Alright. Seeing none, thank you, director Franks. I appreciate you and Becky and Adam. Great presentation. Great trendsetters. Gonna jump over to the district attorney next. Is the DA with us?
Yes. I am here, and I have my chief assistant, Berkley Brannan, in chambers who I think is walking up right now to set up the presentation.
I don't see Berk in the room. Do you want me to come back to you?
Yeah. If you just if you could, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. I thought I was standing there.
We'll go to elections and then come right back to you. So at this point, we'll bring forward Gina Martinez from the elections department.
Good morning, chair Lopez, members of the board of supervisors, CAO Della Rosa, members of the community. I am Gina Martinez, registrar of voters. I'll be presenting the elections department augmentation request. I will begin by providing some context re regarding changes in the election revenue cycle. The department generates revenue by charging billable jurisdictions for their prorated share of election costs.
By law, these jurisdictions include city schools and special districts. Now in 2017, billable jurisdictions moved from the odd year city school and special district election cycle to consolidate with the even year general election cycle. At that time, the department reported to the board of supervisors on the fiscal impact of billable districts consolidating with the even year general election cycle. Now this is a point in which the department moved from a relatively stable revenue stream each fiscal year to alternating years of deficit and surplus with overall budget neutrality. The 2526 fiscal year is a deficit year in the cycle that includes the June primary election.
This is a major countywide election, and costs now average $2,500,000 for this election. Revenue now averages $175,000. The augmentation requests are necessary to conduct the election and meet our mandates as they are the same regardless of the number of billable jurisdictions participating in the election. This graph represents the major cost categories related to the administration of any election. The largest cost categories are staffing, which includes both seasonal and permanent staff, and voter guides and ballots, which includes production printing and mailing.
These two cost categories account for over 80% of total expenditures. Without additional funding, we will face challenges such as not being able to meet our core mandates, including the production and distribution of critical election supplies and providing services to candidates, voters, and observers. This chart represents department's augmentation request prioritized in tiers, taking into consideration mandates, guidelines, and specific needs of the department. Tier one lays out our top priority requests. These needs represent costs associated with meeting our minimum legal requirements to conduct any county wide election.
The county is obligated to absorb these expenditures. The county will recoup a minimal amount through reimbursements and claims. Those numbers have been taken into consideration and accounted for in this request. Tier two requests include an estimated increase in translation costs. Our election material must be translated by certified translators.
This request accounts for the use of an additional translation agency due to the retirement of a lower cost independent contractor. This request also includes training towards state certification for three election program managers who will be onboarded in the new fiscal year. Tier three request represents expenses incurred throughout the election related to activities that are encouraged but not mandated, including additional outreach, mailings, and advertising. If there are changes to election administration via executive order or a change in federal law, the department will return for an augmentation request to include voter outreach and education. Tier four requests reflect a request to release funds from the capital assignment fund for election technology.
That request has been approved for fiscal year twenty six. Now given the budget year, we are focused on funding tier one or top priority requests to meet minimum required services to the administration of the election and will reluctantly defer tier two and tier three requests. This concludes the presentation for elections. I'm happy to take any questions or comments.
I'll take note. Four minutes.
Four minute. There you go. Alright.
Questions from the dais. Supervisor Eskiew.
Maybe this is a question more for our budget team and council. This sounds like something that we're required to provide funding for. Am I clearly understanding that? That is correct. We would either fund it today or we would have
to fund it with contingency since we do need to have the twenty twenty six elections. Keep in mind, the recommended budget, we only cover the filled positions and certain items. There's other items that the departments will bring up that we were not able to cover given the access to the dollars that we had. So your board can certainly identify resource, or identify items you'd like covered.
So the so just to to part to to tangent from the elections department. So there's a and I've got a list of items. So so there's an entire list of items that we're we're sort of walking into this, CAO recommended budget with an expectation that we have a number of items that are legally required for, this county to fund, to meet our mandated responsibilities, that will require us to tap into additional contingency, dollars, in order to meet our obligations. Or if we were to be, you know, prudently fiscally responsible in a in a different way, not tap into contingencies, it would otherwise require us to identify reductions elsewhere in the recommended budget in order to fulfill the legally required obligations that are in front of us today? Correct.
Okay. Just wanna make sure we're we're all clear on those points. So this is one of those legally required obligations that we must find a way to fund before we walk out the door today.
Supervisor Church.
Let me provide a correction. We can revisit the budget later in the year. However, given the upcoming twenty six election, we would likely have to fund it potentially with contingencies. So it's not a decision that absolutely needs to be made today, but we will have to address it.
Supervisor Church.
Yeah. I
I'm not sure I understand how this is an unfunded augmentation when this and a few other things are legally mandated. It just seems like this you know, elections are the the leg upon which the entire government stands and why this is even happening to be considered as an augmentation. It I I'm not understanding. I mean, this should be this should be just in their basic one of these things knowing that it's coming up next year that it's gotta be done. Mhmm.
And so I'm kinda confused at how you know, a little confused, I guess. You know, not the word, but surprise, I guess, is the better word of of why it's even an unfunded augmentation into here. And I I just now kinda agrees with question on just where what are what what is the the basis upon which we chose our priorities to fund and then why we chose not to include this. And I think I think I saw some in the civil rights as well, and there might be somewhere else that seem to be legally mandated, and we don't have the funds for them.
Supervisor, to address that, to be clear, when we had the beat the budget workshop, the county administrative office was tasked with, keeping all filled positions. We have access to certain resources. One of the things that we cannot use is the contingencies. Or for example, we tried to not use very much of AA or and also try to keep a reserve. So the recommended budget does have certain items that will need to be covered.
The reason we did not cover them as part of the recommended budget was because the CAO's focus was to preserve all filled positions. So at this point, yes, there will be certain items that you will wanna cover, and that's why departments are presenting. In addition, the other item that you'll see that I know will affect you directly and myself is the animal services component of it. But, again, our specific task was to preserve every field position.
Other questions from the dais?
Yes. Thank you. I just want to see if you could just reiterate why we don't have the budget neutrality that used to exist. And more importantly, now that the election cycle has changed, how you're, perhaps unable to get the benefit of multiple jurisdictions or school districts or whomever to cost share and why we now no longer have this alignment, and our costs now exceed, the revenues that come in.
I'd be happy to. And this is a relatively new, condition for Monterey County and many other counties in the state. We, go into every budget year projecting the cost of any election that would come up and, the prorated cost that the county would pay versus the cost that any of our city schools or special districts would pay. In 2017, all of our jurisdictions that we would be able to bill left the odd year cycle. That meant that we completely had no, districts to bill during that year to offset the cost of any other election that the county would be responsible for.
And, they did that according to law based on a reduction in turnout. So anytime you have a turnout that is lower than the general year election, these schools, cities, and special districts would have to analyze their voting area, determine a certain percentage that would then cause them to legally have to transition to an even year cycle, in support
of voter
turnout. So we lost the funding during that year from all of these jurisdictions. Now in the even year, we do see an increase in in these jurisdictions, obviously, that are sharing the cost of the election, so it reduces the county costs overall. But in that odd year cycle, when we have a primary election, there really are no jurisdictions that we can bill out. So the county is left to pay the cost of that election. The election cost is going to be whatever the cost is, 2,000,000, 2,500,000.0 at this point per countywide election, regardless of the number of jurisdictions that we're able to share that cost with.
So, just to the CAO, my question would be, it seems like this is a new cost that we're having to figure out because we don't have the neutrality anymore because we can't two for one in some cases. And so, it it sounds like there's a larger conversation we need to have in the future of what revenues covering a state mandate I mean, a a mandated service that the elections department pays. You have to have an election. We can't choose not to. So I think that's a a future conversation, but I do understand how we got where we are today, and you definitely need to fulfill your duty, and we're all grateful for it. Thank you.
Thank you.
I think the theme of my time in office will be unfunded mandates. That's what I preach. So thank you for drumming on that without me having to. Any other questions from the dais? Alright. Thank you, Gina. With that, we'll go back to the DA. There's Burke, so we'll give you the floor.
Apologize. I think I was working off a draft agenda, I assume.
Good morning, everybody. Janine Pachiani, Monterey County district attorney. I'm glad to see my team is in chambers. Thank you to chair Lopez for allowing, our office to present earlier in the schedule, and I appreciate that to a to a personal scheduling conflict. You're gonna be hearing directly from chief assistant Berkeley Brannan, and he's gonna briefly be identifying the specific service cuts that are going to be necessitated by the cutting of nine attorney positions.
Although we are here asking for five attorney positions, please know that there is a real impact right now as a result of the unfilled positions we currently have. For example, we have two legal secretaries that are unfilled, and we two victim advocates that are unfilled as well. We have a backlog, and it's a combination of things. First of all, it's because we don't have enough filing attorneys. We don't have enough staff to input the cases.
And what that does is it creates a backlog of 1,700 cases right now, which is really an astounding number of cases in a backlog status. And we are addressing that with overtime and really getting on it, but it's not sustainable. And, that's as a result of not having the support staff to input the cases and then the attorneys to file them. But Burke's gonna go ahead and talk to you about the the reasons why we're requesting the five, attorneys right now, and we are reluctantly giving up on our advocacy for the victim advocates and the support staff. So Burke?
Thank you. Thank you, Janine. So we're looking at some real severe personnel costs. These are just due to the base wage salary survey, and what we're looking at is nine vacant deputy DA positions. That's 21% of our general staff.
We also are, as Janine pointed just pointed out, and we're not asking for this funding, but at this point, but we're gonna lose 20% of our victim advocate staff. We're gonna lose 10% of our legal secretary staff. We're asking that you you freeze all these un unfilled positions rather than just eliminate them at this point. But we are asking for funding for five deputy DAs, that would that would represent a 10% cut to our staff, our our our general fund attorney staff. And we're and apparently, slideshow is not working at the moment, so I'll just forge ahead.
You could just ask of Totavans. Yeah.
Next. So, why why do we have all these open positions? Well, you know, there are there are a number of reasons for it, but, one of the ironies of this is now that we have the base wage salary survey in, know, one of its purposes was to allow us to recruit. I mean, we really aren't competitive in this market. That's been evident.
We it's certainly for not lack of trying that that we can't fill these positions. We have a continuous recruitment. We're constantly interviewing. We're constantly doing our best to get applications in the door. And now that we've got a remedy for it, the kind of catch 22 solution is that we can't hire.
So next slide. What this slide is designed to do is just let you know that, you know, we're pretty good stewards with your general fund money. Only 53% of our budget is general fund and that is really quite unusual for a DA's office. Numbers are usually much higher than that. You can see what they are for the contiguous counties.
The thing is when you're relying a lot on grants, we do, the problem with that is the grants go to things that really aren't what you would think of as core responsibilities of a DA's office. They go to other things, welfare, health care, insurance, and workers' comp fraud, consumer and environmental protection. These things are all very important, the crimes that occur in our two prisons, but your general fund dollars that you invest in the DA's office, that goes to our core functions, the things that the crimes that you would naturally assume that DA's offices are prosecuting. Next. The we wanted to make the point that the money that you spend, general fund money that you invest in our office, it is money that it has ripple effects.
It's leveraged. It's it is money that is used to effectuate dollars spent at the municipal level, in law enforcement, in police departments, at the sheriff's office for investigating cases. So all that money that goes into working up a case, sending it to the DA's office, if we're not able to file it because we don't have enough general fund investment, then that money is is wasted. It's it's for naught. Next.
So we're gonna get into some service cuts, that that we're looking at here. Life for hearings are hearings in front of the parole board, and the parole board is deciding whether to let a murderer usually out of prison. They're they're there on an indeterminate term, which means they're there on a certain number of years to life, and the parole board is is deciding whether this person is a current danger if released. And so what occurs at these hearings, the inmates represented by counsel, victims appear these these hearings appear occur at all of the prisons across the state of California. And we did 128 of them last year.
We have eight thirteen lifers in prison right now in Monterey County. The way we do this is we use one of our open positions that is ready to be cut to hire an annuitant who handles this work. And if we're if we lose that position, we won't be able to afford the annuitant and we will not be able to attend these hearings. So that is a grave consequence in terms of what we're looking at here. Next slide.
We, as Janine pointed out, we are already behind on our filing. We use an annuitant. We need three full time filing deputies. That's what we need to file cases. Because of recruitment issues, we are using two and an annuitant, And if we lose this position, we're gonna lose the annuitant.
We need to fill it. And what will happen is we will file felonies, obviously. We're not we're not we're gonna get those filed. But we file about 10,000 misdemeanors a year and what I anticipate happening and I by the way, I was just meeting with a chief of a police department yesterday who was complaining about us not reviewing cases that they had sent in an ongoing neighbor dispute because we're behind. And what is gonna happen is these cases are gonna get older and older, and at a year, the statute of limitations for misdemeanors runs, and we aren't gonna be able to file them.
So they're gonna end up being triaged not by choice particularly, but just by an inability to do our job and long delays. I mean, even talking about a year, it it it's it you know, the these delays aren't fair to defendants who are waiting around to see if their case is gonna be filed. They're not they're not fair to victims who are wondering about their case. And we're already in a bad situation now, and obviously, that situation would get much more exacerbated if the cut goes into effect. Next slide.
Some of these other points that we want to make our current patchwork that we're doing to deal with our 20% shortage in attorneys, in general fund attorneys, and one of them is early resolution court. Early resolution court's a very important court to the operation of the criminal justice justice system here in Monterey County. It is a misdemeanor court, so about 10,000 misdemeanors come in, and they all go into early resolution court. And what happens there is we try to make an offer on these cases that will incentivize a resolution of the case. So it is a low offer not to be repeated.
And, the staffing of this court requires two experienced attorneys, to handle it. We we have a a vacancy. So how are we doing it? Well, we take misdemeanor attorneys, new attorneys who are assigned to a trial court, we yank them out of the trial court, leave their partner alone there, and throw them into this court for a month. And, you know, making the right offer, the finesse in settlements, it requires an experienced DA, and this department is not going to work at optimal effectiveness doing it this way. It's just a patchwork and it's untenable over time, as the slide says. Next.
So just to know, we're at ten minutes, Merck.
Oh boy.
Okay. I apologize for that. I am getting close to the end and I'll speed up. So our elder abuse, our boss, the district attorney, had to eliminate our dedicated elder abuse prosecutor. Counties of this size have elder abuse units and what's happened, instead of having a unit, as you should, this work is just being spread out through the office. And I think you heard Mr. Summers earlier today express his concerns and frustration with that. That's what's happening here. Next slide. Civil commitments and sexually violent predators, another area where we're requires specialization.
These are people that the prison says are too dangerous to release. You need to civilly commit them, get them into treatment. We're just spreading it out over our, giving it to our district attorney staff, it isn't viable over time. Next slide. And then our collaborative court, Prop 36, which are drug treatment felonies, mentally ill, veterans court. That is what occurs in here. We have a manager who's handling this court three days a week, and during those three days, the manager isn't supervising his misdemeanor deputies. Next. And our cold case unit. We have a we had a person assigned to this unit.
I think most board members are familiar with how successful the unit is, and what's happened is that person promoted. He's now an assistant DA. He's keeping this assignment in addition to his supervisorial duties. Next slide. So what's the cost?
You know, at a four step seven, it would be $1,700,000 We won't be able to hire, and we don't hire at that level. We generally hire at a one step two. It would be nice if we, you know, got a three or a four applying for one of these five positions, but the fact of the matter is that, you know, the it wouldn't even cost $6.60 $666,000 over the course of the year if everyone came in at that level because that's that's the amount if we hired five the first day of the fiscal year. So the cost is is is less and we're asking for the the $6.66 for these five positions. Next slide.
And this is our conclusion. You know, we we don't have surplusage right now. You know, we have enough to basically get along with, you know, bailing wire and duct tape at this point. But without these five positions, we just don't see a path forward. So we're requesting funding for them, and we're requesting you freeze the remaining, and and Janine and I can take any questions that you you have at this time.
Questions from the dais. Supervisor Church?
Yep. Thank you, Berkeley. Looking at the positions here, there's a couple of legal secretary positions, for example, which you're talking about the attorneys and, you know, what we need out of that. So are these legal secretary positions, when the when you don't have enough for that, who does the work?
Well, they just do the work. They? Yeah. Who's they? The legal secretaries. And so what we would what we've been doing, as an example, and I I realize this isn't sustainable, you know, we with our filing backlog, we offered either comp time or overtime for them to come in on their own time and work on that backlog. And so we have a bunch of volunteers that came in this last weekend and and worked. And, obviously, if we have enough money in our budget to pay them overtime, we can do that. Or if we didn't, we'd go with comp time.
I I was just, one, just trying to make sure that we weren't using attorneys for backfilling
some of We we don't do that. Good. They don't know how. Okay.
Well, that's comforting, I guess.
Supervisor Alejo. Thank you very much. Thank you for
the presentation. It's certainly very concerned about the drastic decreases in staffing at a time where voters overwhelmingly approved prop 36 to better address crime, retail crime, other crimes that were covered under the proposition. Do just going to the state budget, I know the state's not taking up their budget until next year, but prop 36 was appointed discussion whether the governor and the legislature were gonna provide local law enforcement more resources to fulfill the will and the intent of the voters of California. Any idea whether low local DA offices will receive more funding at this point in time, and I know we're on the we're only a few weeks away. I think they vote on the state budget by June 15, but there's budget trailer bills that might be deliberated into the end of session, at the August.
So but I just wanna know what may be coming to help offset the increase in workload that's coming as you're telling us, we're gonna have less staffing to do the critical work in keeping our community safe.
Well, it's a great point, supervisor Alejo. So I am on the California Days Association Ledge Committee, and my understanding, and this is really from yesterday, is that the money that's being asked to fund Prop 36 is for social services. That is, it's for treatment related to the drug treatment felony. So there's no money, there's no ask for DA's offices. We're just gonna, and I don't know what the story is for public defenders, but as far as I know, other than the treatment component of that, we're just gonna have to absorb this work.
If I could add to that. I I testified up in the senate budget hearing on this issue a week and a half ago, and the money is not, being directed toward, traditional law enforcement or DAs. It was being directed specifically at behavioral health services and probation services since that's gonna be the brunt of the work that is gonna need to be done to address the prop 36 population. So there's no funding in line for, prosecutors. I do know that the Public Defenders Association is requesting, I think, a $120,000,000, but, there's no funding in the works for the prosecutor's offices.
And, miss mister Brannon, is the DA's association making that request? If if
We you know, we thought the, I I think at a political level, our concern was, in order to make this work, we we needed the treatment money. I mean, we don't we don't want to send people to prison for for drugs, for drug possession. And, you know, our feeling is that, I know, in a lot of counties it actually works fairly well here. Behavioral health is doing a great job on this in Monterey County. But, and using Medicare, Medicaid, Medi Cal, I should say.
Sorry. But a lot of counties, there's no treatment component. They don't have it. And so the law says you get treatment. And so I think our feeling was that's where the money needs
go. You know, we can you know, we'll just deal with the the the rest of it. We didn't we didn't wanna advocate for the proposition and then try to cash in on it.
Well, that is one then I just expressed I'm just more concerned about your decline in staffing at a time where we expect, things to be much more busier this coming fiscal year. Thank you.
Supervisor Daniels.
Thank you. This is a question for the CAO's office, and I'm new, obviously, at this and curious the difference between what's the budgetary impact difference of freezing positions versus eliminating them? And does freezing mean keeping them unfunded?
That's exactly it. It would be the position itself would remain, but they would be kept unfunded. So the only issue there is just the oversight then from our office. We still have a hiring freeze, so they do have to submit a request to fill the positions, but that would be the only we would have to manage and ensure those positions were not billed because we don't have the revenue attached to them. Thank you.
Supervisor Hoskey.
Thank
you. I think this is a actually, one of the examples and one of the broader concerns that I have as we move through this budget cycle and into the coming year and future budget cycles is that we talk about strategic reduction of workforce. I think that was one of the things that our CIO had mentioned. But yet the direction that we gave to just keep filled positions and eliminate all vacancies was more of a it was not a strategic direction that that we as a board gave to our our CIO in how to move forward. It was it was more of a not not a scalpel decision.
It was a, you know, broad, I don't know, a hammer kind of decision. And and and this department, as a result of having a larger number of vacancies and and we're not having to, you know, I think be more strategic in how we move forward. So I think that the broader conversation, I just wanna make the point is we as we move forward, we need to be more thoughtful in the direction that we're providing to our our staff so that we are strategic in what we're asking them to do, whether it be in develop a budget that does provide us with the mandated services that are fully funded or in how we're moving forward with strategic reduction. We will have less resources. Our revenues are not increasing sufficient to meet the increasing costs.
We have provided increase again as we heard this morning, we've made a commitment to paying our workforce what they fair wages, which is appropriate, but the reality is there are limited resources and so we do need to our our our the number of employees that we have will be will be less. The the amount of work is not less, and that's clear. So in this case for this department, I think there is some balancing of what we need to do to make right the position allocation. And I guess the question is, is the five positions the right? Is the six positions the right?
And so I would look to our, I guess our staff. Have we had any ability to assess or look into that or in collaboration with the district attorney? I know they've worked really hard to determine what is maybe the right size. Do we have comparables? Is there any additional information that our CEO's team can share? I'm gonna
have Debbie come up and respond to that question, so she'll be joining you there.
Maybe I could just filibuster for a second for her. You know, we did we did realize that we we shouldn't come out of this feeling comfortable or whole. So we tried to, you know, if you count up the number of slides there, there's actually seven attorney positions on the slides. We we, you know, we can sustain I mean, you you can sustain going light for some period of time. I mean, you can do it.
You you can do it for a year. You can do it for two years. I mean, you heard from mister Summers this morning. I I think there's a a real level of frustration and concern in our office. We we tried to give you a number that certainly that we could live with.
But, you know, we we felt like, you know, at the $6.66, you know, filling it at that level, that that might be palatable. Going you know, filling likely filling these positions at that that attorney one, step two level would work. I I just wanna say, I didn't have a slide up there, but when you when you're when you're 20% down, you know, you know, that that I can't make a slide for that and kind of tell you how that feels. It's it's it's problematic.
No. I appreciate that. And I think thank you.
Debbie?
So just kinda going back to the overall picture of the budget. Right? And I think there might be a little confusion here. There are a lot of vacant positions in our budget. So going back to we gave everybody a baseline. The departments chose with that baseline what they can fund and what they couldn't fund. So if there's a vacant position that is scheduled to be deleted or recommended for deletion, it's because the department couldn't fund it with this funding. So back to your question, supervisor Daniels. It's it's the departments chose what to put in the augmentations and what to put in their budget for operation expenses. So if there if somebody's coming now and saying we need these vacant positions filled, they need the related funding for it as well.
So there's a lot of, like, there's a lot of vacant positions. There's a lot of departments. We have them in our office that are vacant right now. We funded them within our baseline and cut other things. So just kind of the overall clarity of the the departments trying to make their budgets work within the parameters that they had within their budget, and they need a little extra to fill vacant or whatever else may it may be. That makes sense.
Supervisor Daniels?
So for clarification, though, at that point in time, each department was given a baseline. Correct. It may have been different from what they had the year prior?
The baseline, it's kind of a complicated process, but the baseline does change with what we have. So what we do for the baseline process is you start with last year's number, you back out any onetime, cost. We make all the departments whole for the cost plan, general liability insurance and workers' comp. So that's an adjustment within their budgets. Then it comes to a new baseline.
We do what we call off the top, which are our debt services and commitments that we've already made that we have to pay no matter what. And then whatever's left, the departments either get a positive or negative funding based on their total amount of the budget. So the baseline the baseline budget that changes a little bit each year be and it changes it looks bigger for some departments and and smaller for others because of the swings in the cost plans and their liability and their experience rate in workers' comp or general liability insurance.
So my my last question would be if a department had a large number of vacancies, though, would they find themselves at a disadvantage in this process?
No. So they they can fund their vac vacancies with their baseline, or they could not fund them. So everybody's kind of in the same advantage. You're all in the same boat. Where you would find, the disadvantage from and in the DA's case is that, you know, the base wage studies were very favorable for them, and that's kind of where a lot of their, lot of their costs differences are coming from.
Okay. Thank you so much.
Right. Any questions for the DA? Seeing none, we'll continue. Thank you. So next up, we have the HR department. We're gonna send that to Andres Piper. Looks like he's got Kim Moore coming up with him.
Good morning, Jay Lopez, members of the board. I will be presenting the the fiscal year twenty five twenty six augmentation request for the human resources department this morning. The human resources department oversees and provides all county wide human resources functions, including but not limited to policy procedure implementations and compliance, labor relations negotiations, oversight of the most complex employee relations items, benefits administrations, HRIS, classification compensation, recruitment services for centralized departments. As you can see, there are about 17 centralized departments and there are 10 decentralized departments. Next slide, please.
So the decentralized HR departments do what we call department departmental day to day human resources. That includes they do their own recruitments, their own selections, and and transactions. They do departmental personnel transactions. They do benefit coordination, enrollment, adding dependence, and frontline employee relations support, but HR does the more complex stuff in terms of that. Given that, I would like to just present what my augmentation requests are.
This is down from our original request that we had of about 783,000. I will be discussing so we are asking for 30,000 in the classification of compensation study line for legal services for labor negotiations, 40,000. And then the quantum engagement survey, we are asking for 61,000 for a total of a 131,000. So briefly, I want to talk about the consultation service of classification and compensation study. Earlier this morning, you heard about the fact that so many of the compensation and wage and classification studies were taking so long. One of the reasons they were taking so long is that we did not have the necessary
One second, Andres. I just lost quorum, so I've gotta stop you for now. Give me one second.
As long as we stop the clock as well.
Yeah. Your clock is stopped. Alright. Proceed.
Thank you, supervisor. Consultation services classification and compensation studies. As you heard this morning, you know, there was quite some delay in some of the compensation studies. When I came on board in December 2023, I made sure that we caught up on that delay. One of the challenges we have there is is that we do not have enough staff in the classification and compensation division to do a timely and to do class and comp and base wage studies in a timely manner.
We heard this morning the remark that classification and compensation study could be done in twenty minutes. That's akin to taking your, basically, your symptoms, putting them in WebMD and diagnosing yourself. It's much more complex than that. The effects of nonfunding is delayed county responses to classification compensation proposals, continue working out of class of employees, impacts to services as appropriate duties cannot be assigned, and appropriate job classes cannot be developed. What we want to use this money for is where we have critical class comp and wage studies that we need to do that we can use an outside consulting firm so that we don't get the same backlog that we had prior to me coming on board, which was over seven years.
The legal services for labor negotiations, that's very, very important. Currently, we are still busy with our foundational agreement negotiations with the union of American Physicians and Dentists. And in January 2026, we are gonna start with the California Nurses Association, which is gonna be a very complex and involved negotiations. The legal support is really important for us with it comes to laying down this memorandum of understanding with UAPD because that sets the tone for future labor negotiations. And therefore, we have that request of for outside consult the funding that we need to do outside negotiation consulting.
The effects of nonfunding would, of course, be delayed county responses to county to union proposals. It could lead to some labor unrest and impacts the services to the public if appropriate contingency planning and legal measures are not appropriately completed in the event of labor actions. The last one is the quantum agreement. Now this is a very important part. Research indicates that when employees feel their voices are heard, they're more likely to not they are more than likely to remain with the organization.
We have just complete a big quantum survey, and we are basically now working with the various departments to implement the top three areas that have come up from that quantum survey. To continue these efforts, you know, we need to make sure that once we've implemented that we do the survey again. And therefore, we are asking for a just so we can continue with the contract for one year. Through the survey, departments can conduct surveys such as quarterly pulse surveys, job applicant surveys regarding recruiting experience, new hire and onboarding surveys, and exit surveys. The lack of effects of non fundings, the lack of employee engagement software program requires extensive manual analysis of the survey data collected and it doesn't necessarily mean that it's accurate.
And the cost is significantly lower than adding staff to assist the employee engagement manager. And I have to mention, for a county our size, we have one employee engagement manager for a county of almost 6,000 employees. That is so this software really has a huge multiplier effect. So in summary, my requests are going to be the class of comp studies, the 30,000 that I'm looking for there, legal service for labor negotiations, 40,000, the quantum employee engagement survey, 61,000. These are all one time funding requests.
I'm fully aware that coming to the board and asking you for, you know, ongoing funding requests is just not in this fiscal time viable. I appreciate the board's time. Thank you.
Thank you, Andreas. Questions from the dais. Supervisor Church.
Sure. Just looking at the presentation we had earlier and what you're requesting and and understanding for a budget office to keep up with, you know, as we go through this this last days of your preparation for the budget office to keep up with every department's all, you know, presentation. It can be really difficult. But I noticed under Homan, you know, a few things that under under this under the funded augmentations on the presentation, it lists three positions, which you don't seem to be emphasizing as much. And also, the legal services was a 100,000, which you've looks like you've trimmed down to, what is it, 40,000.
Yes. So I just wanna make absolute confirmation that because a couple of things are up in your augmentation request are not on this Mhmm. Presentation list. You would you consider these
This is what I'm This what we are asking for. Okay. Rather than relating to ongoing funding and at this point in time, you know, I don't think it's opportunity to be asking for something that would require ongoing funding. Thank
you very much. Other questions from the dice? Alright. Seeing none. Thank you both. We're gonna proceed to the Assessor County Clerk Recorder. Give you the floor. Marina Camacho. 19.
Marina Camacho, assessor, clerk recorder. Good morning, chair, CAO Della Rosa, and members of the board and members of the public. I'm here to present for my budget augmentation of three positions for the assessor clerk recorder's office. It's it's the same augmentation request that I requested earlier at the budget workshop back in April 28. Total of the amount that we are requesting go ahead.
Change it. Is 403,114. Three positions, an office assistant position of $103,004.76 to help make the assess the clerk recorder's office fully staffed. Right now that that department consists of three positions, two office assistants and a supervising office assistant too. Currently, we have two positions there And due to one of the positions was used to offset the wage study increases from 2024 and, again, used for to meet the GFC for 2025, 2026.
In order to offset some of the challenges that we face in that department is we used a position from the assessor's office side to cross train and currently assist in that department. But that's still even a challenge that the impact there is a reduction in staffing levels for the assessor side to help with the support the appraisal staff and the cost meet the customer service demands. One of the things that actually impacted the on a positive side, the clerk recorder side is that last year in February 2024, we started offering a service of civil marriages. That's become a quite a positive impact on the department and has been able to generate some good revenue positive to the department. This year alone, effective July 1 to the actually last week, we've generated 82,500.
That's about eight twenty five ceremonies. We're averaging about 18 ceremonies per week. Again, we could be doing more if we had the additional staffing, staff member. Right now, we have, doing those ceremonies, it does impact, the lines that we are able to service as quickly as possible. We are projecting that by the end of this fiscal year, we should have performed roughly around 900 plus ceremonies bringing it to about nine 90,000.
And we are also projecting that for next fiscal year with with the added services that we included for this particular service that we offer to the county and to the community. And actually, there's a lot of people that come from different counties that use Monterey County as the destination to come and get their civil marriages performed here. We are anticipating that we will generate sufficient revenue to fund this position for the next fiscal year, which brings us to my next two positions as the appraisers two. We have two vacancies that we, again, we use to offset the wage studies that happened in '24 and then also in '25, which were favorable to the staff. But, you know, as you can see, we don't get any new real dollars.
So, therefore, when we, as a department, have to choose what positions we use to offset the cost, is not a choice that we want to get rid of those positions or we don't want to fill them. It's just we have to make the sacrifice to ensure that we meet the general fund contribution that we are provided to meet on that baseline. I just wanted to put that out there. The appraiser positions are total is $299.06 38. So if if we are able our projection is that we will be able to fund this office assistant too. So, really, from the general fund would be, like, $2.99 38 as opposed to the
$4.00
3. These positions, as the board is very, very aware and CAO just talked about how important the property tax revenue is to the county in general. And looking at the current budget book, it is estimated that 312,000,000 of the non program revenue comes from the property tax revenue. Of that, 229,000,600,000.0 or 74% is of discretionary funding to this board. And I wanted to just point out that these two positions are a contributing factor to generating that revenue that gives it to the county and the departments to fund salaries, benefits across the board, those that rely on the general fund, including my department.
So we have we work very diligently. We are very lean in terms of what we do, and I wanted to just go over some of the impacts of not funding this. As this board is very well aware, the annual assessment roll becomes the base upon which the local property taxes are levied, collected, subsequently distributed to the cities, counties, and special districts to fund government services. While we do our very best to and we I have wonderful, great, committed staff that does the work that we do daily. I'm very proud of what they do.
I would be remiss in saying that it is not a challenge each year and every year that we have to consider what positions we are going to use to offset any new increases or costs or wage studies in this case, are favorable to our employees, which is very well deserved. Nevertheless, it is an impact and it is something that we have to as a department. As a department head, I have to make the tough decisions as to, okay, what vacancies do I not fill this year? How does this impact the workload? Well, how does it impact?
It's it's a delayed and reassessment and value enrollment, which is a delay to the general fund, less properties levied, less collected and apportioned to the counties, the cities, the schools in the special districts. As I stated, 74% of that revenue comes from the work that my staff does. Less dollars for the GSE used to fund all these salaries and benefits in the core services of the department, including mine. Customer service impact, angry taxpayers, property owners, untimely valuation, which equals reduced valuation for them or under assess, if you will, until we get to their their assessment change. Currently, we have the department, the impact to the department and the county as a whole.
We currently have approximately 4,800 remaining workload supplemental assessments. Tentatively could be drum up about $1,700,000,000 and this is based on a $355,000 per supplemental assessment. Having these two positions would help increase the basically reduce the workload to the staff that we currently have because they have an increased workload. In addition to having an increased workload, we have a couple of appraisers that aren't currently an LOA, which makes it even more strenuous on my current staff. Lower enrolled dollars to all the agencies that depend on the property taxes levied and collected.
So, consequently, if we don't have a fully staffed, we can't enroll the reappraisal events timelies and the county doesn't get the revenue from these events to fund the core services. Thank you for your time, and I'm happy to take any questions or comments from this.
Thank you. Questions from the dais? I'm gonna go down on this. I'm gonna start with supervisor Daniels. Sorry, supervisor Church. I know you used to go on first, but supervisor Daniels.
Thank you, and thank you for your presentation. I just am trying to understand the 60 to 70% discretionary funding that could be lower. And so I just have some basic questions about when is a property reassessed?
The property is reassessed anytime there's a change in owner, whether it's a purchase, a partial interest, a partial sale. When there's a report from the State Board of Equalization that they receive, information that an entity has caused a threshold of over 51% has changed ownership, so it results in a change of ownership. So anytime there's a change of ownership or new construction.
So a new construction, I would understand, requires some back and forth with a with a property owner. But doesn't all of those other things just trigger the reassessment, Or do you, in some cases, just rely on a previous assessment if you don't have the staff in place? I'm trying to understand the No.
We have to reassess them regardless.
Right. So I'm just trying to understand the relationship between the two positions that are needed this year and the potential loss in revenues that you're citing in
It's it's it won't be a loss. It's just a delayed a delayed revenue to the general fund. Delayed. It will take a little bit longer to work the events. And I will I will state this is that my staff works really hard to ensure that we capture everything as timely, but having a greater workload and distributed among less staffing makes it that much more challenging.
A 100% understood. That part I understand. So if there is a reassessment that's delayed, do you collect on past years that
Correct. Were underpaid? As opposed to the new valuation value. Correct.
Okay. Thank you so much.
I'm being just a little pedantic today because I want to make sure I understand everything and not make any wrong assumptions. But you did say that the office assistant position, can fund yourself, correct?
We are projecting that we should generate sufficient revenue from the civil ceremonies given with the additional services that we recently got approved on the free schedule, thanks to this board. We are projecting because as for this year, we're projecting about 90,000 or so for the revenue. So, leaves just a tiny bit less. So we are projecting that for next year we should be able to fund it.
Okay. So then we just started really looking at these two positions. So I just want to make sure I was absolutely clear on that. Thank you.
We're relying on love to balance the budget. Alright. That's right. No. Alright. Seeing no others, thank you so much.
Alright.
With that, let me take us to the CRO, and I think we've got Juan and Nadia coming forward.
I could start. Nadia's working on the slides, which should be coming up shortly. Good morning, members of the public, supervisors, and county colleagues. My name is Juan Rodriguez. I'm the civil rights officer, and I'm joined here today by with by Nadia Vilarde, senior analyst with the civil rights office.
I'm trying to rush, and this is making me nervous, so I'm gonna take a breath. But I promise it's under ten. We have a short presentation for you regarding our requested augment ations. Our first slide, as you can see from this slide, 90% of our budget is allocated to salaries and benefits, leaving little room to implement programs which are mandated by either the state or the federal government or by this board of supervisors. We are requesting augmentations for $118,702 which we group by program and priorities. As we discuss the augmentations, please keep in mind that these augmentation requests are considerably less than the average cost of a full time analyst position in our office, which is 200.
So to help you in the public visualize our requests, we organize them here by priority. We have the red signifying a vital a vital function, blue the mandatory compliance function and black signifying a maintenance of minimal level of service for the civil rights office, all totaling a $118,702. The couple that have an asterisk are denoting a function that is either mandated by the state or the federal government or both. So we are here focusing first on our first set of augmentations, the red highlighted augmentations, which are vital for a functioning civil rights office. We have the administration request here first.
This request is representing the minimum amount of funding necessary to run our office. This includes our copier machine, document translation, and our small office software. Second, we have our internal investigation request. One of our state and fender federally mandated functions of the civil rights office is to conduct workplace investigations of unlawful discrimination, harassment, and retaliation. This augmentation request allows us to continue to perform this function well.
This is essentially functioning to fund our case management system that currently stores our office's investigations for the last seven years. This is the software that analysts are primarily documenting and maintaining records of all investigations that we conduct. This is where we keep our files when county council requests them to defend lawsuits and where we store the information that departments need to respond to the state civil rights department or the federal equal employment equal employment opportunity commission. While the board while the board directed the CIO to full fund the full 24,000 for this, they had to make the tough decision to reduce it by 25%, which isn't sufficient to cover the cost. And then lastly, we have our mandatory training augmentation.
Our office provides two mandatory trainings to the county. One is the board of supervisors mandated civil rights training. The other is the California mandated prevention of sexual harassment training. We developed the civil rights training in house, but we need a software license to do this. As for the state mandated training, we contract with the vendor to provide an online version of the training that is updated frequently and works seamlessly with our learning management system, and we have a legal obligation to provide this training.
This is a good summary of the of these vital augmentations for our functioning civil rights office, but I want to reiterate that to have a functioning investigatory and preventive framework, these augmentations are really necessary. If not granted today, we anticipate that by September year, we will probably be making again the request to the budget committee and this board of supervisors for these augmentations.
Next, discussing that next level of augmentations, those that are necessary to maintain a minimal compliance with federal law. These two functions are developing an equal opportunity plan, which is simultaneously compliance and discrimination prevention. The other is implementing title six of the civil rights act plan, especially within it, the language access plan, which lives within title six, recently approved by the board of supervisors in February and required by federal law. The title six plan is not only a compliance issue, but a vehicle to serve our residents better and can prevent complaints of unlawful discrimination by members of the public against the County Of Monterey. To fully implement these functions, we'll need 11,000 for the federal workforce reporting requirements and 38,000 for title six, equaling 49,000 for both.
This 38,000 includes funding title six implementation, for full programming, including a community interpretation certificate for county employees with miss and a paid intern, among other things. However, acknowledging the constraints of the budget this year, we can make these two functions work with a reduced amount of 16,000. And this last set of augmentations are designed to maintain a minimum level of service for the civil rights office, including functioning funding for the community impact action plan, also known as CAAP, that this board also approved February 2025 this year. And the 10,000 for CAAP will allow materials for leads from several county departments for training materials, professional development, and the last item is for mileage for the community volunteers that serve on the two Brown Act commissions that our office staffs. So here's again our request of our augmentations.
We've told them hereby priority and what's most essential to our primary functions. In summary, our total request is a $118,702 minus the 18,000 in the recommended budget broken down as you can see here as follows for vital CRO functioning represented in red. We're requesting 57,000 to meet minimum compliance and discrimination prevention. In blue, we're requesting the full amount of 49,000 or the minimum 16,000 to maintain minimum compliance. Then this last set identified in black to help the county better serve our residents and meet minimal levels of current service, we are requesting 12,400.
Thank you very much for your attention. We recognize the really hard job you have balancing our residents' needs and are happy to answer any questions.
Questions from the dais. Supervisor Church.
Yeah. I just wanna get one little clarification on on your numbers here be oh, could we have that screen back?
I didn't stop there.
That's not me.
There we go. Thanks. Just pointing out. So I know and the investigations are 18,000 is already funded.
Yes. The board recommended '24, but, yeah, the the CEO's office recommended the 18. Yeah.
So you need another six?
Another six for investigations. Yes.
And and I know you down at the bottom, you say it's $39,003.00 2 is what you need, but up here, kinda gives the idea that you're asking for 57, but you're really only asking for 39, if I understand it correct. Am I incorrect on that?
Okay. Yes. Technically, yes. I don't know if the recommended budget has not adopted it, so it's just summing it up. Okay. I I just she gave for clarification.
We're really looking at 39 from
In addition. The recommended addition. Okay.
Thank you. Thank you.
We have questions from the dice. Supervisor Askew.
Yeah. I think this is another one of those, like, I guess it didn't occur to me that we needed to give direction to fund to to include all of our mandated legally required programs and services in the recommended budget. But the the is it the just to be clear, the 118 is what you would require in order to perform your legally mandated?
So the full one eighteen would do the minimal level of compliance that we're doing now. But like Nadia mentioned, we recognize how tough a year is. I think the reduced amount, instead of the 49,000, can do it with 16,000. So the total would be 87.
5,702. That would the one eighteen is for total programming, but minus if we do 16 instead of the 49, that would do that would give us about 85,702.
And to supervisor Church's point, minus 18 that was already recommended, by the budget office.
Oh, sorry. So 85 minus 18 or 85 total?
So 85 total including the 18 already recommended by the budget office.
85 includes. So what's the total amount additional dollars that you need?
67? Right. $67.07 $0.02.
Thank you, Sonia.
67. Okay. Great. Thank you.
Thank you.
Brenda Brenda's numbers. We're looking at this we're I'm trying to get where we get to 60 7, and maybe I'm just looking at this wrong.
It's 39.
It's the 39 plus the 60 and the 12. Plus the 12.
Yeah. Missed that.
Thanks. Alright. Other questions from the dice? Thank you very much. Thank you all. Alright. We're gonna proceed. Going to DEM.
You guys are gonna pull it up. It is open. Alright. Good morning. My name is Kelsey Scanlon, director of emergency management.
Thank you so much for having me. I wanted to take a moment to thank our staff at the Department of Emergency Management. Since my first day here, not but seven years ago, they have been moving quite literal mountains and then sometimes putting them back, but have done a tremendous job in boring the weight of the county response to all kinds of natural disasters in Monterey County. So, throughout the iterative process of the Monterey County, fiscal year twenty five, twenty six budget, process, we had identified approximately four total positions that would likely be cut as a result of our, GFC limitations. Through the CAO's recommended budget, the administrative secretary position, which is a, full time permanent position and currently filled, is recommended, which leaves us with three positions that are anticipated to be cut.
One of which is a part time temporary retired annuitant, serving as an emergency services planner. One is a full time limited term management analyst two, which is currently filled, and one is a management analyst two position, which is currently vacant though full time and permanent. As you're aware, we have significant impacts in Monterey County as a result of natural disasters. But most importantly, it's extremely difficult for us to anticipate what kind of disasters might occur in the coming fiscal years. So we're constantly anticipating how we can be more nimble and more effective in how we leverage our resources, ensuring that we're meeting the ongoing and ever changing needs of the community, including but not limited to emerging new threats, rising disaster costs, increasing community expectations, and cascading impacts.
This is significantly less than what was presented at the budget workshop. We have taken a hard look and triaged our request, which is not to say that the original requests during the workshop were not necessary, but we understand the predicament of the current budget situation and have attempted to really be surgical about what it is that we're requesting. So this augmentation request is assuming the approval of our admin secretary position as part of the CAO's recommended budget. We had initially asked for a new allocation of a permanent management analyst three position, which we are now asking that instead of a new position, reallocate a current MA2 to an MA3, which would cost about $15,911 We are also asking for the allocation of or the excuse me. We're asking to retain one of our current vacant positions, which is a management analyst two to assist us in, financial administration, which I'll talk a little bit about.
If we're unable to do that, we would appreciate that the position be frozen and unfunded, but retain the allocation. We have also requested one time funds for an emergency operations plan to be updated, which is a mandate. And, though not included in this request, something for consideration is the emergency operation center budget as well as funding for grant administration for the Pajaro recovery program. So we have asked for the reallocation of a management analyst two to management analyst three to assist with local, state, and federal grant program administration and pre and post disaster contracts. This position was originally requested of the board in the fiscal year twenty three twenty three-twenty four augmentations, which Supervisor Alejo brought up during the budget workshops to assist with contracts, pre and post event MOUs, grants, and FEMA public assistance.
We had intended on this position focusing predominantly on FEMA public assistance. However, at the time, had to, repurpose the position to focus on the administration of the Homeland Security Grant Program, which is managed through our office. This position was staffed full time for a year after it was allocated, and the person filling the position worked approximately 98% of their time on the Homeland Security Grant Program to address the significant backlog as a result of grant monitoring and also served a total of five sixty eight hours above their annual time trying to make headway on that backlog. And that program funds things like the Monterey County Sheriff's Office SWAT program, the bomb squad, the Environmental Health Bureau hazmat team, the Salinas Spire hazmat team, the Monterey Peninsula Special Response Unit, the Monterey Urban Search and Rescue team, the search and rescue team, the Monterey Fireboat, the Monterey County Sheriff's Office dive team. So not an insignificant program by any means.
And so we greatly appreciate that augmentation in fiscal year twenty three and would like to, considering the significant amount of work and the complexity of the work, reallocate this position from an MA two to an MA three. We are also requesting, continuing funding for a management analyst two that is currently vacant. This position did have a conditional offer out when the freeze went into effect. That person, later denied the conditional offer and took a position with a competing, agency within the Monterey Peninsula region. This position was originally allocated to be a training and exercise coordinator, which is, essential for our ability to meet training requirements.
Those duties have been reassigned to an emergency services planner, reducing our ability to, update emergency services plans. We are requesting that this position be funded, and if not, that we retain the allocation but keep it unfunded. We require somewhat of a significant amount of flexibility in our ability to respond to whatever disasters are occurring and the subsequent recovery operations to meet the needs of our community and reduce human suffering and protect human life. And so having an allocated position allows us to be nimble and flexible as disasters occur, and we can hire quickly, or should additional grants become available, use management and administration costs affiliated with that grant to manage those programs which have direct impact in the community. We have not included it in this augmentation request.
Excuse me. We have included it in the augmentation request for a total of a 140,000. This position or this project was originally funded by ARPA due to the complexities of competitive procurement in Monterey County. It took about a year to find a vendor, and upon about the time we were ready to enter into a contract, we were coming to the end of the fiscal year. We are requesting funds to update the emergency operations plan, which is a mandate under, Monterey County government code as well as state and federal code.
This document serves as the county's policies and procedures for responding to various disasters in the county and outlines those duties, responsibilities, and authorities. I will mention that this plan is, a one time expense. We do it about every five to six years, and it is a critical service that enhances public safety, emergency services, and disaster response prevention and recovery, and serves the unincorporated area. The municipal jurisdictions are required to have their own emergency operations plan, and as such, this project does qualify for Measure A funds should you choose to fund it with that source. The Emergency Operations Center budget, this is a one time appropriation.
I believe this is the third year that we have requested this fund. It is essentially the buffer between us and the strategic reserve. Obviously, you can't fund a full disaster with $600,000, but it does allow us some flexibility in initial startup costs. For context, 600,000 can buy us forty five or thirty days for 45 families in non congregate sheltering. It can buy us community dumpsters for debris removal at no cost directly to our residents.
It can provide us free public transportation for evacuees for two weeks. It can provide us a emergency flood berm at Dom Pierre Park. So there is a a lot we can do with 600,000 that has a direct impact on our communities, that allow us to move quickly while without impacting the strategic reserve right away. And last but not least, we are requesting funds for a, to continue funding for a full time limited term management analyst two to administer the Assembly Bill one zero two grant funds in the unincorporated township of Pajaro. We have about six to eight months left on that grant, and then close out of that grant.
And so if unable to fund with general fund dollars, could be funded through Measure AA as it does meet the, below categories and specifically serves the unincorporated township of Pajaro. If that is unfeasible, an alternative funding source is utilizing assembly bill one zero two, which the board had not wanted to do when this program was, first established, but is a potential eligible activity under this grant.
We are at ten minutes.
And that is actually my last slide, and I will open it up to questions.
Questions from the dice. Thank you, Kelsey.
Thank you so much.
We go to the sheriff's department next. Just a heads up to the public, we are gonna break after this for a lunch break. I don't depending on how long this takes, I'll announce when we complete this, what time we will come back, and we will continue.
Stretch as we break. I'm being serious. You guys have been here through a long time, so it's a little tense too.
Usually say that at 05:00.
Not giving up early,
but is easy. We're only halfway through then.
Yeah. There's no easy answer, and we understand that. So thank you. Good morning. I'm, sheriff Tina Nieto. Presenting our budget stuff is my undersheriff Keith Boyd. To my left, your right. So, Keith, ten minutes.
Recognizing we only have ten minutes, our augmentation request is 645,000 per minute. So, we'll keep it brief. So thank you for your time, chair, and members of the board. Where's my just a little background on the sheriff's office budget looking at prior fiscal years. In fiscal year twenty four, our growth over fiscal year twenty three was $4,800,000.
That that dealt with $525,000 added to the sheriff's budget for creation of the jail compliance unit, $950,000 in restored funding of unfunded deputy sheriffs for the jail, and at that time, 3,300,000.0 in augmentation for increases in jail health care cost. In fiscal year twenty five, our growth over '24 was approximately $7,500,000 We received $4,000,000 in augmented funding to maintain '29 positions at that time. We received $2,000,000 in new funds for the implementation of our Axon technology program, body worn cameras, tasers, drone, the interview system. We received an additional $290,000 in new funding to expand our jail compliance unit. And non we GFC impact, but we added $1,200,000 in new revenue funds through CalAIM grants to help with the expansion of the mandated CalAIM program.
The reason I show this year over year is is when we talk about baseline, our baselines has grown, but it's never grown in satisfactory nature to offset true impacts to the to the need to maintain status quo. This year, in fiscal year twenty six coming in, our baseline is at a 168,500,000.0. It's recommended in the CEO's recommended budget to fund 21 positions that are currently occupied with 3,300,000.0 in augmented funds, bringing our recommended at this time to 171,800,000.0. So note, our our status quo to maintain for the upcoming fiscal year would be a 188,500,000.0. Now a lot of people or departments have put different things into augmentation.
We focused on incur ensuring our mandates were within our baseline, and then we looked at what are we not mandated to do. And so that's where the 16.7, it's gonna include personnel costs because we ran out of other non mandated things we could we could ask for. So to try to cut that request and to support the rest of the county to bring our augmentation down, if we look at our 188,500,000.0 requested budget, we've eliminated some augmentations from consideration. We eliminated an additional $22,000,000 in overtime we were seeking. We eliminated 750,000 in the partial Axon we were requesting.
The big one we've eliminated, because we don't have a new contract in place at this time, is we eliminated a request for increased jail health care funding of $7,200,000, which was a projection based on market. We recognize there's not enough money to go around, but we're trying to to sort this out. We're also working with our municipal partners across the county to enter into an MOU to fund three of our record specialists for services that we provide for the rest of the county to offset, which will bring in approximately 336,000 in revenue. That's bringing our requested budget down to about $178,200,000. Our recommended CEO budget this time is $1.71.8, which puts us at a still in a need for 6,400,000.0 that we're seeking and asking for your support.
That $6,400,000 is 1.45 is our Axon Technology program. That was originally funded with ARPA funding in year one. We have it still shifted to augmentation. But to meet the other 5,000,000 in augmentation needs, there's there's not services that we could necessarily cut. So it leaves us to 28 vacant positions.
What is noted in the CAO's recommended budget position is different than what we have noted in this slide coming up, and it's partially because of the continual movement of positions within the organization. So our vacancies when that budget was book was built is different than what it is today. Looking at that $5,000,000 augmentation request for personnel, 16 it's 28 total positions. 3,800,000.0 is tied to 16 sworn deputies, eight of those in the operations side of the house, which is out in field services serving the community, responding to to day to day calls for service, and eight of those are in the jail. We wanna note that all we've been under a hiring freeze countywide since October 2024, but at this time, we have approximately 26 deputy sheriffs ready to hire if funding is authorized.
We have people that wanna work and do the job of serving the public and serving in public safety. We also are short 12 professional staff in this vacant for 1,200,000.0 that we're seeking funding, and we have eight of those positions ready to hire as well. This is our prioritization list for our augmentation for the vacant positions. As you'll note, we have the deputy sheriffs in corrections listed number one and the deputy sheriffs in enforcement listed number two. And then we we run down our list of professional staff based on our prioritization of need within the organization.
This list is different than what is listed in the the recommended CEO budget book. So it's noted that the board would have to give direction on this to be the vacant cuts if they're to occur because the board controls the funding. The sheriff under government code controls the allocation of the funding, and so we've shifted we've moved to these positions to spread the impacts across the organization instead of being staggered in the CIO recommended, which heavily hit enforcement. Just to note, settlement impacts for our jail, for the federal settlement, if we if we aren't able to achieve maintaining the vacant positions, we could see a reduced ability to provide services to our incarcerated population and their their families that come to visit them. We could see a reduced ability to implement mandates from the state and federal government and federal settlement.
We could see increased hazards due to reduced staffing. We could see impacts to employee the employee wellness due to increased overtime or shortness shortage of staff to support them. We could see increases in overtime due to cut positions because the jail is a mandated requirement. We could see increased costs long term to our federal monitors in the settlement. We could see increased costs long term to the plaintiff's attorneys.
We could see an increased potential for judicial sanctions against the county and the sheriff for failure to implement the mandates of the settlement agreement. In field services, the impacts to the community could be with the loss of funding, for those vacant positions. To the Monterey and King City substations, we could see a closure of those stations or modifications of services from those stations. We could see the reassignment of sworn and professional staff from those stations to the headquarters in Salinas. We could see a reduction of the actual amount of patrol cars patrolling the streets countywide.
We could see extended patrol response times due to the, countywide due to the longer distance that they're traveling. We could see extreme delay or nonresponse to low priority calls such as food vendors, such as noise complaints, such as things of that nature. We could see a significant reduction in our ability to serve as the operational area mutual aid coordinator and support our municipal partners. Again, circling back our augmentation request, and and we know there's no money. There is a limited amount of funding to go around.
And and to fund this, you're really looking at contingencies and such. But we're we're focusing on the 1,450,000.00 to maintain the Axon body worn camera. If it's not funded, then we're gonna have to find a way to absorb that cost into our budget of what we're allocated and make it happen, or consider eliminating that contract with Axon and eliminating the body worn cameras. Because that's our one way to get out of that contract legitimately is a lack of funding. And as noted, funding of approximately $5,000,000 for the 28 vacant positions, 16 sworn, 12 professional staff, and we're in a position to hire 24 today.
Before I take questions, star sheriff, one more thing. I just, you know, wanna thank all of you for your time. I know you understand the value of public safety. I wanna thank the men and women of the organization who serve this count county day in and day out, give their heart, give their soul, give their blood to to take care of the residents. And, we appreciate your consideration for them, for this community in evaluating our request.
Alright. Questions from the dais? Supervisor Askew.
Yeah. So just an acknowledgement. I mean, you cut called it out in the initial portion, but the a jail health care RFP that's out. And can you speak to the timeline of that?
I'll ask counsel before I answer.
I I I think Broadly.
Yeah. Broadly.
Yeah. I think you can speak to when you would expect award to go out in negotiations to be completed with the bidder that that was awarded.
So we, supervisor, we are we are expecting that in the first two weeks of June that we will be able to begin negotiating with whichever vendor was selected for that future process to develop a contract. The current agreement in place that we that we have funding in our budget, baseline budget to cover, goes through 12/31/2025, and we would project this new contract to begin thereafter.
So middle of this budget year, we would expect a new contract to be executed. So there's a cost potential change associated with that that's unexpected at this point or unknown at this point that if the sheriff's whatever we allocate to the sheriff's office isn't sufficient to cover that, it ultimately would be something that we'd have to come back. And I just want to acknowledge that the board, the county, with the amount of resources that we've expended, we've spent most of our almost all of our one time pots of money, our savings. And as we go through this process here, it's looking like we're going to be asked to spend into our contingency today in order to meet, like, basic legally mandated services and requirements which will effectively leave us without many options, for resources available to pull from to, to respond to unexpected costs that come up over the course of the year. So I just I wanna be really clear about how tight things are.
I'm not putting you guys I've well, more to like to so that everyone's on the same page about the realities that we're facing. We've we've we've had one time money that our predecessors have put aside over the years. We've now spent all of that. We're gonna be spending the one time money that we have available for this budget year, and we're expecting that there are some unknown costs that are gonna hit us come come December, come January, come whenever this new contract gets gets put into place. We don't know what those costs are gonna be. I just wanna acknowledge that reality, and so thank you for the the presentation.
Supervisor Church. Thank you for
that question or the comment there, supervisor Ascot. It was one of my points I was gonna make there too. Could you go in and explain how you cut the 750,000 out of the Axon? Because it was 2.2, and you went to 1.45.
So the Axon contract cost for the upcoming fiscal year to maintain what we entered into an agreement with them last year is approximately 1,450,000.00. We had added approximately $750,000 into that funding for the next year to fund the replacement of drones that we lost in May 2023 during a critical incident, drones that have just service life or at end of serviceable life. Also, were looking to expand services with Axon to add what's called fleet cameras into our corrections vehicles. So when we're transporting incarcerated persons, we would be able to have in car cameras and and have for litigation and risk management. So that money is what was reduced from our augmentation request, and we're just staying with the the contract need at this point.
So to and to fund this, when for this 1,500,000.0, what's the the deadline for us to come to the phone with that? Do you need you have to have that one on this budget right now, can it come later, for example?
The bill will come due in fiscal year '26, and I as I recall, it's June September 1 with a forty five day payment terms. So we'll get the bill for $1550000.00.1.45 approximately September 1 and have to pay it no later than October.
Of October, something like around then. Okay. Thanks.
Other questions from the dais? Alright. So for my and my only question is looking at the list, it was a little we moved a little quickly through the numbers. But in terms of patrol, right, I I heard potential closure of Monterey, potential closure of King City, but big picture in terms of getting folks out on the street and visible. That's what I've always prioritized. I'm just curious given what you're laying out here, where does that fall in your final request?
So working diligently in the past to to impact the private like, the sheriff took office, we had 20 plus vacancies. And as of last June 30 at the end of the fiscal year, we were full sworn staff. That put us in a position recognizing all those deputies would go through training, start hitting individual solo this spring, March, April. So we have increased the transfer of deputies from the jail to the streets as part of our patrol training program. We have approximately eight to 10 deputies right now in patrol training, and those deputies will be on the street solo if they successfully complete the training end of summer.
And that this allows us to continue that path. If we lose these eight sworn vacancies in patrol, we won't have any vacancies to transfer anybody from the jail into to increase staffing until somebody retires, separates for some form, or gets promoted.
You need those funded or or are they unfunded? What is your retirement rate looking like right now to be able to backfill some of those folks in if we leave them unfunded?
Unfunded? If they're unable to be funded, unfunded is always better than eliminated. We believe we have retirements coming this summer, but we never know, because employees can seek to to reap the benefits of the pension system with the increased salary that we've given.
That's helpful. Yeah. Any other questions from the dais? Supervisor Daniels.
So just looking at this list to follow-up with the previous question. So we're talking about number one, that first eight. Those are the patrols you're talking about, deputy well, no. Deputy sheriff corrections and deputy sheriff enforcement. Which are the eight you're talking about?
The eight that the supervisor Lopez just referenced were number two. Okay. The eight and number one are in the jail.
Alright. Thank you, sheriff.
Thank you. I just wanna remind everybody, don't open any emails from me.
Or Keith. I got some from
Keith too.
I was entertaining. Pushing scams. Okay. So we're sitting at 12:11. I'm gonna reconvene us here at one.
So we'll take a fifty minute break here for lunch. We'll see you all back here at 01:00 to continue. In memory of Odie and supervisor Alejo will take lead on that. Go ahead and fire up. Just a reminder, we are in the middle of our budget hearing.
If you're just joining us, we just concluded the sheriff's item, broke for lunch, and we'll now be picking up the health and human services tab of our agenda. At this time, I'm gonna turn the floor over to Elsa Jimenez, our director of health, for her five minute present oh, I'm sorry. Ten minute presentation.
Good afternoon.
Chair Lopez, members of the board, CAO de la Rosa, County Council Blich, County colleagues, and members of the public, thank you for allowing me to present the health department's fiscal year twenty five-twenty six recommended budget. I want to express my appreciation for the health department directors and finance team members for preparing a balanced budget. A warm thank you to our team members that have direct contact with our clients, patients, consumers, and the general public for making them feel valued, welcome, and wanting to continue to receive health department services. And to the public for continuing to put your trust in your local health department, helping us bring additional resources to our county. The health department continues to expand its services and programming through receipt of new grant dollars and expansion of billable services.
We continue to rely on the general fund for those services that are not reimbursable through other means. The department's recommended budget for fiscal year twenty six is 17% greater than our current year adopted budget, funded with outside revenues and departmental revenues. The county's general fund contributions continues to be only about 3.89% of our total appropriations. At your board of supervisors workshop earlier in March, I presented the department's requested budget highlighting the general fund augmentation request for a total of $327,000 Your board provided support for the two investments highlighted on this slide. While we appreciate having received preliminary approval for 75% of our request for the spay and neuter clinics, we urge the board to reconsider and approve the remaining county share of almost $27,000.
A special note, the City Of Salinas' preliminary budget does include a 100% of their share for spay and neuter services at a value of about 98,000. Approval of the spay and neuter clinic ask in full will result in the successful coordination of about 45 to 50 clinics in the areas of greatest need based on data, serving up to 1,500 cats and dogs, supporting continued efforts to reduce unwanted animals, many of which end up in our shelter. By offering low cost spay and neuter services, we will achieve a decrease in the number of feral cat colonies and population over time and ensure our residents have access to low cost services for their dogs and cats in their own neighborhood and community. So this slide highlights the pending augmentations for your consideration. I'd like to note that there are four new positions that we've asked for for the Hitchcock Road Animal Services, JPA.
With the formation of the JPA or the joint powers agreement in January 2023, the costs are shared between the county and the city of Salinas at about 5149%, respectively. The dollars noted under the reimbursement column is the anticipated City of Salinas contribution towards requested augmentations approved by the JPA board of directors in February. The approval of these four positions will help us meet existing needs for services in the field, in the shelter, and expand capacity to pursue grant funds and programming services. Of note, these new functions could be funded with measure AA funds once those revenues are realized. So just highlighting.
So 27,000, balance of our request for spay and neuter clinics, full time animal control officer, full time management analyst, a full time office assistant too, and an animal care technician, all totaling about $253,000. So these are the two recommendations before you today. The first is to approve our pending augmentation request of about 253,000 in full, and the second is to approve establishment of fund balance for the joint powers agreement fund. Currently, the practice has been for both agencies to contribute proportionally towards the actual costs, and excess contributions are returned to the city and the county. Approval to establish a fund balance for the JPA will provide an opportunity to accumulate funds for future operational and facility needs.
The fund balance will be created over time by retention of unspent contributions from both the city of Salinas and the county of Monterey. And that concludes my presentation.
Right on. Five minutes. Alright. Questions from the dais? Alright. Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate the presentation. With that, we're gonna jump into HCD's presentation. Mister Spencer, you do not get to keep the balance of Elsa's time. Just for the record.
Thank you, mister chair. Good afternoon, supervisors. Craig Spencer with Housing and Community Development. I, first wanna thank the CAO's office, Sonya and Debbie, for all their work on this, and appreciate the board support for some of our or at least portions of our augmentation requests. We can and will make do with the recommended budget as is proposed.
I this is my second year in the budget process, so I am still learning. But what I'm what what I'm want to do is just share briefly my experience with how this works. Essentially, we have increased costs, mostly salaries salaries and benefits, but all kinds of other costs as well. We get a a portion of the increased revenues, and then we're asked, in our case, in HCD, to balance the budget with essentially a million dollar gap. And that is, okay, how do we maintain the service levels we have with a million dollars less?
And we did have to eliminate vacant positions. Fortunately for us, they were fairly long standing vacancies that we believe we can continue to operate without. We did have to eliminate things for supplies and services, and we start looking at training budgets and all of the things that we have to pay for every year. And then we come up with what we can we we think we can live with, then we ask for what we need in addition to maintain levels of service. What I think is missing, and, again, I'm still learning, is the future vision.
And I think in future fiscal years, we keep hearing that it gets more difficult. And so what what we're trying to do is is think about, you know, not adding positions that we may have to eliminate in the future, but we do struggle with doing more with less continuously. In the world of housing and building, there's so many unfunded state mandates that continue to add to our workload. And what we need eventually is one time funding to help simplify some of the processes so that we can do more with less, not not it have people continue to do what they're doing above and beyond all of the hours they put in. And I do, on that note, wanna end by thanking my staff who are incredible and work extremely hard, including Laurie who helped us balance this budget, and I am available for questions if you have any.
Thank you, mister Spencer. Questions from the dais? Record at two and a half minutes. Thank you. Alright. Next up, we have Randy Ishi, director of public works facilities and parks.
Thank you, and good afternoon, Chair and members of the Board. As introduced, I'm Randy Ishi, Director of Public Works Facilities and Parks. And with me today is Assistant Director Lindsay Larrabell, as well as various members of the Public Works Facilities and Parks executive and management teams. We greatly appreciate the opportunity to be able to present to you today at the budget hearings. As we have presented back at the budget workshop, we presented many needs, and as a result of that, we are very grateful to the board and to the CAO's office and budget office for granting some of our requests.
However, we are here today to parlay with the board about remaining requests that we went back and looked at it with a fine tooth comb and to meet public safety needs and bare minimum levels of service inclusive of mandated and sometimes state mandated activities, we still need those needs fulfilled, and we're coming to you to present those today. We'll go to the next slide for an overview of the conversation for today. And we'll start off with a brief department overview. We'll then talk about the general fund budget needs. We'll then talk about a new need, which is the road fund's budget needs.
Then we'll go into more detail about the budget augmentations. And to assist the board, staff with the extra effort to try to create some options to address one of the ongoing needs of custodial and security options for the board's consideration. We've we are stewards, and we feel we're good store stewards of the county's funds, and so we wanna present a full range of options for the board to consider. Then lastly, we want to conclude with a request for your support. We'll go to the next slide to briefly go over the department overview.
In brief, this slide represents the outside funds of which the department manages and oversees and provides to the public. In brief, and this has been presented to the public in the past, oversees the road fund, which is the funding source primarily for maintaining the twelve sixty plus miles of county maintained roads. If you were to take all the county's roads and stretch them end on end with one another, that would get you one third of the way across The United States in the East West direction. Other services under outside funds include the enterprise funds such as Lake Nacimiento and Laguna Seca Recreation Area, as well as capital projects and various financing authorities and county service areas. We'll go to the next slide in the interest of time.
There's a wealth of various general fund funded services that the department provides for county customers, whether they be internal customers or external customers. The department manages and oversees over 2,740,000 square feet of county owned building space and an additional approximately 400,000 in leased building space. They do the architectural services. They oversee the long term maintenance, which is the rehabilitation of these various county buildings and grounds. And it oversees over 30,000 acres of parks and open space for the county for the our public to be able to recreate and enjoy.
Additionally, there's almost 3,000 acres of former Fort Ord lands that came to the county after the dissolution of the Fort Ord Reuse Authority. There's county disposal site areas, and the slide shows the various other lists of activities we perform. In interest of time, we'll go to the next slide. And so with that, we go to our general fund budget needs. Pausing here for just a moment on our general fund recommended budget, and as presented by other departments to you today, there were increased costs that need to be accounted for.
And this department's philosophy, due to the increased labor costs, material costs, fuel costs, and just the ever increasing price increases that we're experiencing, the department first chose to cut anything that was not necessary. And so we cut our nonmandatory trainings, we cut all of our conferences, we cut contractors, we reduced consultants, We even reduced our vehicle replacement fund known as the vehicle asset management program, aka the the monthly financing tool that we pay into. So that way, when a vehicle needs to be replaced, we have funding built up to be able to replace that vehicle. For all of our units, we are suspending those payments for at least this entire fiscal year to be revisited at a later time. All of this was then done so that we did not have to offer positions.
The last thing this department wants to do as its philosophy is offer any positions. And so the very last ones we would offer up are the existing filled positions. Layoffs are the last things the department will do as the county employees are the greatest asset for the department and the spokes of the county will to keep it going. So ultimately, we did need to cut to the point where you need to offer up our vacant positions. It was not that the positions were not needed.
It is that the positions were vacant, and that was the last funding source we were able to draw from. All those, cumulatively summed together, represent on the right hand side of the slide where it says the baseline reductions to meet general fund contributions. That's where the $5,000,000 comes from, inclusive of nine full time equivalent positions. So here again, we cut everything possible in order to make a $5,000,000 cut possible in order to make a balanced budget. And all of this was here again, those efforts to preserve positions, to keep the day use parks free, and also keep other existing services going to a very bare minimum baseline level of service.
We'll go on to the next slide to briefly talk about the new need, is the road fund budget needs. Similarly, on the road fund side, we are significantly delaying recruitment suppositions. We cut non mandatory trainings. We cut contractors. We cut materials, supplies, our consultants.
We here again, we've suspended those vehicle asset management program payments, aka the vehicle replacement fund payments, to be revisited at a future date. And with the most recent newer emerging thing that we learned in the recommended budget is that there's a reduction in the TOT contribution, a. K. A. Transient occupancy tax contribution, of general fund dollars to the road fund.
That reduction is approximately $3,200,000 And with this difference of having only the bare minimum maintenance effort payment made as opposed to the 25% of the county's transient occupancy tax, what that effectively does is it suspends the local road rehabilitation program. And what that further means is that it would put into risk the completion of the road resurfacing in CSA 17 Tierra Grande, a community that is in progress. It would put in at risk the next set of work we planned on doing, which is the streets in San Ardo. To be clear, there's a state funded grant for sidewalks in the community of San Ardo. That is still progressing, but it's the next phase of work, which was the planned road resurfacing in the community of San Ardo, would then be suspended.
And a last set of planned activity was the design work for the community of Spreckels. Additionally, it suspends the community road maintenance program to the tune of approximately $780,000. So the next slide, takes us into a little bit more detail about it. This is just a reminder that the Board passed a policy known as a local road rehabilitation program policy this past year. And as we discussed and agreed to at that time, the difference between the 25% of the county's transient occupancy tax and the maintenance of effort requirement through various funding requirements, such as the Transportation Agency for Monterey County Measure X Ordinance requirement, as well as the state's requirement.
There's a minimum that they require for general fund contribution to the road fund, and so that difference between those two numbers represents the funding source for those local roads and the program of local roads to be rehabilitated, as well as some other needs such as the annual sealcoat program and other programs that are performed. So we'll go to the next slide. And here we'll talk about our general fund unit augmentations in further detail, starting with the highest priority and going to the lower priorities. So priority number one is to restore four vacant positions in our parks division. The total of these four positions is approximately $580,000 and two of these positions are county park ranger positions.
As the board and public had heard earlier today in the AB two five six one presentation, these positions are vacant, and they are in exceedance of the threshold of that vacancy number that's requiring that report out, among other things. And there were also cases being made by the county park rangers for having these additional vacant positions filled. If these positions were not to be filled, then as stated by our parks rangers, the department would be extremely challenged if not not able to staff our various parks with a park ranger. Or in other words, there would be days that would go by and there's not a park ranger who is available. Many of them are working overtime hours, particularly during the summertime season when we have the greatest visitorship, enjoying our lakes as well as some of our parks.
So we're asking for those positions to be restored. We're also asking for the senior parks utility water system specialist. That's been a very difficult position to fill similar to the county park rangers with the senior park utility and water system specialist. That's a state requirement in that there's licenses that are held by that position that are needed for the water treatment plants and the wastewater treatment plants at the parks and lakes. What we've currently been doing is we have been using that set of salaries and benefits to fund a consultant to perform that duty and thus keep the county in compliance with the state requirement.
If we do not receive the funding for the position, whether it be through the consultant or for this full time position, we are at risk with the water and wastewater treatment systems.
Just to note, we're at ten minutes, mister Rishi.
Okay. Very good. I'll I'll quickly wrap it up then. And the the senior secretary's last position. We'll go brief very briefly through the last set of slides. So priority number two is restoring the funding for the Como River Lagoon sandbar management. Number three and four are the custodial services for the multi use facilities. And we'll talk about those at the end of the presentation in a little bit more detail. But we have a range of options for the board to consider. The request is to fund those to the preexisting amounts.
Next slide, please. Priority number five, as we have discussed before, is the Fort Ord open space unscheduled maintenance. We're asking for an allowance to do the veg management at the former Fort Ord. Next slide, please. Prior number six is the encampment cleanup for an allowance to do homeless encampment cleanup should that need arise.
And then lastly, we're asking for a small amount of general fund dollars for the Lake San Antonio Landfill's Post Closure Monitoring Report. So in summary, in terms of augmentation priorities, we brought together a scaled back version of what we feel needs baseline services. The total fund need is $2,260,000 But when you add in the new road fund need, then that comes to a total request of $5.45 ish million. And just as a reminder, these are the other augmentations that we had brought forward at the budget workshop. And so the original request of the budget workshop was over $7,200,000 We had pared back that request to being a little north of $2,000,000 But with the need for the road fund that emerged, we're asking for the $5,450,000 approximately.
And as we had discussed at the beginning of the presentation, we want to talk further about the custodial and security services. Recognizing the financial challenges the county is going into this next fiscal year, we did the best we could to try to find how could we fund both custodial services and security with the amount that was allotted to us post budget workshop. In terms of current levels of service, this slide, which is available in your packets, shows the existing current levels of service for the different county buildings. And so as we go to the next slide, what that shows is a range. Option number one we have for the board, with the existing amount that is in the recommended budget of $500,000 plus, we are able to do two days a week of cleaning of the county buildings, including the restrooms, and only on board meeting days would we have one security guard available.
If we were to select that option, that would represent no further requests needed for the security and janitorial services. On the other end of the spectrum, to keep things status quo the way that they have been for the for years, that would be the request to fulfill those budget augmentations to their fully requested amounts of $1,200,000 Looking for that range in the middle to find something in the middle of which might serve both the financial needs as well as the basic needs for people who pay for in the county buildings, Staff's recommendation of those options is a three day a week cleaning and having one security guard provide weekday service for twelve hours per day during the weekdays here at the government center. And then a different security guard, again, one security guard for weeknights and weekends at Schilling Place in the Ballora Yard, and that represents a request of $672,000 The next slide just shows the other range of mid tier options for consideration, again, all depending on how much could be available to fund the custodial services and janitorial services. That'll take us to our final slide where, as a reminder, these reduced levels of service to the public and county customers are a result if lose these augmentations, and these one time decisions could yield long term repercussions.
I take this to our final slide, and we thank the board for their consideration, and we open up for questions and comments. And that concludes today's presentation. Thank you.
Thank you, director Ishi. I'll bring it to the board here. I'm gonna start with supervisor Daniels.
Thank you, and thank you, mister Ishi, for your presentation. I have a couple questions about the local re road rehab program. But before I do ask that question, can you just articulate briefly the relationship between road regular road maintenance and rehabilitation and costlier long term projects over time, in terms of, you know, avoiding road reconstruction by maintaining?
Some questions, Supervisor Daniels. So there is a prioritization that staff uses for the annual plans every year for road rehabilitation, reconstruction, and maintenance treatments. And as pointed out, it is certainly less expensive with the treatment methods to maintain roads and prolong their life than it is to fully reconstruct a road once it has hit that pavement condition index range of the zero to 20, sometimes 40 range, where it requires a very expensive road reconstruction treatment. So in general figures, doing seal coats, which are pavement preservations that improve rideability, are approximately $500,000 per mile, sometimes a little bit more, sometimes a little less depending on the circumstances. And then for a full road reconstruction, such as what we would do on a road like Harkins Road a couple years ago, that level of activity requires $2,000,000 plus per mile.
Some roads do need it, and as we go through our priorities, we try to find that balance with Measure X priorities, aka the promises that were made in the specific sales tax measure, and fulfilling those campaign promises while also prioritizing other roads using that matrix that is in the spirit and consistent with the Monarch County general plan where we focus on roads that are ag routes or high volume or tourism routes. And so what what we try to do is we try to find that blend of fulfilling those measure x promises while also doing the long term payment preservation, like the seal coat programs. And one of those we did this past year was on Carmel Valley Road. And in the prior year, we did parts of Reservation Road and Blanca Road on the West Side of City Of Salinas and others. So we try to maximize that blend while also meeting these obligations of road reconstructions.
We do look at traffic volumes, look at how we can benefit the most people with the limited funds that we have. So that's all separate and a part of the local road rehab program.
So the local road rehab program, though, you're you're you're predicting will be impacted by the reduction in the road fund. Is that is that am I understanding that correctly? That it's the reduction in the road fund that is going to impact the ability to maintain the same level of of service from the local road rehab program?
You are correct, supervisor Daniels.
Okay. And then so I'm just wondering if you can walk me through one of them that you you mentioned, which was the CSA 17 project, which is Tierra Grande. That project has been approved, and it would be in progress in this fiscal year. And so are you saying that with this type of reduction, that project may sort of stop halfway through the progress in the next fiscal year?
If some questions to president Daniels, you would be correct in that there there was funding this year to do the first half of the roads, and this is a unique project in that it's straddling two fiscal years. It's straddling the end of fiscal year 'twenty five and going into fiscal year 'twenty six. So in approximate numbers, the first half of the roads were fully funded and were able to accomplish. Then when they go into the beginning of the new fiscal year, the remaining half of the roads could be accomplished. If we don't receive the funding for this next fiscal year, that does cause concerns for how to finish the project. It might even cause a suspension, and so we're looking for support on having that fully funded.
K. And is the seal coat program part of the local rehab real local road rehab program?
It's part of that entire general fund mix. So, yes, that's
correct. Thank you.
Supervisor Church.
Sealcoat program, is that the chip and seal?
That is correct.
And you're saying it's 500,000 a mile? I thought it was cheaper for but maybe it's, you know, reevaluation the last couple years has sent it up.
You're correct, supervisor Church. Historically, it has been $250,000 to $300,000 per mile. This last iteration, we found it had gone up. Could be attributable to fuel prices or labor at the point in time, but you are correct and to correct Steph's earlier statement, it is generally around the $250,000 to $300,000 per mile. These past years have just been somewhat anomalous.
And let me see if I have any other questions. Oh, The other question is on your priorities here. You have a one, two, three, four, five. Is that how the department views as one and then two, then three in that order of priorities? Or is it just the listing generically and we were to pick out which one's from that?
Excellent questions, Director Church. It is in priority order, in descending order. So priority number one is the department's recommended highest priority and then descends down from
there. Okay. And since you were supervisor Daniels was asking about the the road maintenance program and and everything. If I recall a couple months ago, board did have a just a little discussion about perhaps maybe bringing back what our current policy is for priorities. And hope sometime you might be able to do that in near future just so that we can kind of determine how we're gonna balance out between, you know, ag and commercial and residential use. So it's like, I know you're doing the best job right now. You can't work within that, but we do have a a policy that, is rather old. I don't know if the board is fully in alignment with it this time.
Thank you, supervisor Church. And, yes, staff is working on it as rapidly as we can.
Supervisor Alejo. Thank you,
mister Ishi, for your hard work and trying to under very tough budget circumstances, you really tightened up your departmental fiscal belt and really came up with these these minimal needs to just keep operations going. And and I get the full ranger positions and certainly the sandbar, which we see covered in the news every winter when when your crew is out there, when it's raining, when it and when it's windy and it's cold. Those are those prevent flooding and and it's preventative work that really goes a long way. But I wanted to just speak with on the custodial and the security. Obviously, the numbers you're presenting is just their proposed increases.
Cost of increased additional 178 is for custodial and almost just over 1,000,000 for security. What what is is that because the the people we contract with are saying this is what the increased cost is from last year to the next fiscal year?
Excellent question, Supervisor Alejo. What these numbers represent is not only the accumulation of increases in costs such as salaries and benefits on county employee side, but it also represents the augmentations that were brought through the budget process to the Board of the Budget workshop, and the numbers are changed now because we did get approved for a little north of $500,000 for custodial services. So that does reduce the ask at this juncture of staff to the board by that amount. So that remaining 100 ish thousand dollars is what we're asking for to get custodial services back to their existing baseline level of service. And then since there was not support for the security services at the time, the million dollar plus figure that the board and public sees is asking for the existing, here again, level of security services that are provided at the various county buildings, such as the Government Center and Shealing Place and at the Lowryard.
And so as presented through these several options, there's several options of a mid range for the board to consider if those numbers are too great.
Alright. Well, I hope to flesh those out a little bit more because I I'm certainly concerned on the on the custodial side, you know, because you you cut some of these days down to three. It's really disruptive to those employees, you know, to try to now find another 40% more hours during the week is hard to do. And I'm just I'm just concerned about that disruption in in their lives. The security, there's some ways that some proposals here to adjust the hours, but I would just caution, right, that that here we have these government buildings.
Certainly, security overnight at at them, whether it be the Laurel Yard, this facility, a shilling place. When nobody's looking, then then the bad elements start vandalizing. It'll cost us more to clean up any damage or any vandalism that is as Curtis, I just wanted just to be cautious of that, to not put ourselves in that position where we're later regretting having to spend money anyways to clean up vandalism or other damage caused. So, anyways, I I just wanna perhaps later as we make the decision just to look at what those are more closely what those options are to find maybe a middle ground there. Thank you.
Mister Kozlowski, any comments on this one? Alright. And I think mine are all, sausage making, so we're gonna go ahead and leave this here. Thank you very much, director Ishi. And at this time, I see that we've concluded those departments who requested to speak. But I know we have a few folks who wanted to make additional comments, so I'm gonna give an opportunity. I see our IT director here and give you the floor first.
Thank you, chair, members of the board, county staff, and members of the public. I'm Eric Chatham, chief information officer for the County Of Monterey. It, I'm here representing the ERP augmentation request, for FY 2526. During the budget workshop, we requested a $2,500,000 augmentation that was supported by the board at the time. This augmentation is required to complete the implementation of the planned ERP go live date of July 2026.
The primary reason for the additional funding requirement was the extension of this project by one year, which it created additional system integrator costs with our system integrator Graviton, as well as county resource costs for the year and additional licensing for carrying both Oracle and CGI for an extra year. We successfully have deployed the EPM, which is a budget module, which this year's budget was built on top of. So thank you, Debbie and team, for leveraging this the new system, the new Oracle system. Our budget book was produced by that system. We currently are targeting the HCM HR module to go live January 2026, followed by the ERP system in July 2026.
And with that, we we we respectfully request the funding to complete this project, and I'm here to answer any questions. 2.5.
Questions from the dice? Supervisor Askey.
Yeah. Sorry. This was included in the recommended budget?
It was not included.
Not included.
We have funding available with our current funding that is, available that will take us through January 2026. So there is the thought we can come back midyear as we see is the are we consuming the amount that's currently projected for county resources? That's the one controllable item that we have.
Okay. And I think that that's helpful. And and also coming back midyear is great, but if we've spent all of our contingency, then coming back midyear doesn't leave us with anything unless we've saved money for midyear requests. We already know that there are handful of midyear requests that are coming at us that could be fairly large, in nature. So thank you for making that clear.
Anyone else from the dice?
Alright. Thank you very much.
Adam, I'm gonna go to county council.
Thank you, chair Lopez. I can make it real quick. We have three vacant positions that are set to be cut. One attorney and two legal secretaries. We realize that there's not funding for them even though we could desperately use those positions. We're asking that they, that we retain the allocation and that they stay as an unfunded vacancies versus being cut.
Thank you. Those are the two departments that let me know they wanted to speak. Any others? Supervisor Lejo.
This is a question that mister supervisor Church and I had because we're both on the economic development committee. We had a hearing a few days ago where two I presentations were made. The the committee recommended unanimous approval for them. What we had a presentation from the reservoir. This is Danny Bernstein who's been working to try to get state money but actually has more detail now.
He's looking to lease a property here on the 68, just as you're leaving, Salinas, over here by Knob Hill. And so I think his request was to get support from the county. I know there's a financial amount, but I know this presentation was asking for support offsetting the permitting costs. So there wasn't a number attached to that, but I think that was his his minimal ask. Then then there was a we had a presentation of the future of Blue by Regenerative California and the one of our fisheries associate associations here from the Monterey Bay.
Their ask was a 170,000, but we we we we let them know it's probably gonna be difficult of full amount, but getting some funding to help with their fundraising said would be very helpful for them to also get that. Both were very commendable. Both got unanimous support, as I said. But without county support, it's gonna help to get these good efforts off the ground. So I just wanted to raise those as a point to put them on the table to know that our committee did make that recommendation last week.
I am at the meeting, I was under the impression that there was gonna be a presentation from both of them.
And so I found out about that today at lunch, and so I I don't believe so. What I understood was they were gonna come make commentary public comment. Okay. That's that's This agenda was set.
I wouldn't I understand the meeting.
That's not quite how I understood it. I don't know about supervisor Allego, but I thought they were doing a little bit of presentations, but that's that's that's fine. Whatever we have up. Yeah.
We we did tell them to we did encourage them to reach out to their supervise to give their presentation as well, but they said they weren't gonna come speak here during public comment. Okay.
Alright. Chair, this is Valerie, clerk of the board. I didn't present this time. I did present at the budget workshop, but just to still consider our position, which is at 125,000 for a board clerk, an additional board clerk. Thank you.
Thank you, Valerie.
Just another clarifying point. On the IT request for the your piece. So on the staff report, the CEO
Can I get a little closer to the mic just for the record?
Yeah. I'm just trying to pull this up here. So the IT the request for augmentations for IT is only listed at it's got a 129 sorry. Make sure I got the right amount. So that's that's not listed on the augmentation request?
Here. I'm gonna have Debbie speak to it, because I asked that same question as well.
Yes. The department did not put it in as an augmentation request.
There would
be a separate request at this point. Okay.
Alright. Alright. At this point, we're gonna open up public comment. We're gonna allow two minutes per speaker. I'm gonna go with folks in the room first, and so invite folks to make their way towards the front. After that, we're gonna go to folks on Zoom, encourage folks on Zoom to use the raise hand function, star nine via landline, in order to be recognized. So at this time, we'll go ahead and invite folks forward. Please come forward to the mic.
Good afternoon, chair Lopez, supervisors. My name is Brian Hoskins. I'm the vice president of the County Monterey Patrol Association, and this is Sarah Jackson. She is a secretary with the Monterey County Deputy Sheriff's Association. We're standing here in solidarity together with our associations.
We first wanna thank you for the foresight to request that all fill positions be filled during this budget process that helps us and our membership feel safer with what's going on and come here to speak on behalf of our membership. We'd like to say that we work for our respective offices, but as a board, we understand that we work for the people of Monterey County. And so with that, we'd like to read first the law enforcement code of ethics, which will end my time speaking, and then we have a prepared statement that was prepared by both boards, and we'd like to present to you jointly, which will be done by, Sarah Jackson. So starting out with the law enforcement code of ethics. As a law enforcement officer, my fundamental duty is to serve mankind, to safeguard lives and property, and to protect the innocent against deception, the weak against oppression or intimidation, and the peaceful against violence or disorder, and to rep respect the constitutional rights of all men to liberty, equality, and justice.
I will keep my life unsullied as an example to all, maintain courageous calm in the face of danger, scorn or ridicule, develop self restraint, and be constantly mindful of the welfare of others. Honest in thought and deed, in both my professional and official life, I will be exemplary in obeying the laws of the land and the regulation of my department. Whatever I see or hear of a confidential nature or that is confided in me in my official capacity will be kept ever secret unless revelation is necessary in the performance of my duty. I will never act official officiously or permit personal feelings, prejudice, animosities, or friendships to influence my decisions. With no compromise for crime and with relentless prosecution of criminals, I will enforce the laws, courteously and appropriately, without fear or favor, malice or ill will, never employing unnecessary force or violence and never accepting gratuities.
I recognize the badge of my office as a symbol of public faith, and I accept it as public trust to be held so long as I am true to the ethics of police service. I will constantly strive to achieve these objectives and ideals, dedicating myself before god to my chosen profession, law enforcement.
Thank you, mister Hoskins. We'll go to the next speaker.
Thank you. This is a joint statement from COMPA, County of Monterey Patrol Association, and the Deputy Sheriff's Association, of which I am the board one of the board of directors. The Deputy Sheriff's Association of Monterey County and the County of Monterey Patrol Association have come together to issue the following joint statement regarding sheriff tian Tina Nieto's recent recommendation that we support her budget increase request to the board of supervisors. Sheriff Tina Nieto has communicated this recommendation to our unions asking that we support her request to the Monterey County Board of Supervisors for additional funding for year twenty twenty five twenty twenty six. The total amount she has asked for seems to vary by day.
Sheriff Nieto has said that without our support and without this additional funding, that she will be forced to pink slip a large number of uniformed members of the sheriff's office. The seriousness of this peril is not lost on the DSA nor on COMPA, nor is the coercive nature of her request. On May 14, sheriff Nieto and under sheriff Boyd sent out an joint email to the entire sheriff's office stating that without the budget increase, they would be forced to cut up to 34 deputies from enforcement, 13 deputies from corrections, and 31 non sworn support employees. No mention of fleet cost reductions, vendor contract renegotiations, program pauses, furloughs, or any other cost saving measures were discussed. Considering the fact that the SWAT team is not operational, services to the public are down in the form of dwindling patrol staffing, the resulting increase in overtime due to mandates, the addition of several middle management positions, deputies reassigned from public facing positions to administrative assistant positions for the sheriff and undersheriff, and the purchase of new luxury vehicles.
We have some questions. Excuse me while I go over time.
So we're we're at time. I'm gonna ask, is there another speaker who can finish your letter? I know you brought a third person.
Hi. My name is Peter Ross.
I'm also a member of the, DSA board of directors. I yield my time so she could finish this.
Go ahead.
Thank you. In an effort to gather information that would enable us to support the sheriff's requested budget increase and protect our members, the DSA asked the undersheriff for the following information on May 15. Seniority lists for all corrections classifications with dates of hire and classification. Current staffing and vacancy data or FTEs allocated versus filled for both custody and patrol. Relevant budget documents as well such as budget submissions.
As of today we have not received any of the requested information. Public records act request to HR takes ten business days. At this time, neither DSA nor COMPA have been provided sufficient information to publicly support this budget request. For the upcoming fiscal year, the Monterey County Sheriff's Office has been allocated a budget of $171,800,000. Before we can responsibly support an increase beyond that amount, we believe a clear and detailed explanation of the need for additional funds is necessary.
After much consideration, both boards unanimously agreed that we cannot follow Sheriff Nieto's recommendation. The lack of transparency through information sharing or honest communication through open discussions on alternative cost reductions leave us no other choice. As labor organizations representing the professionals who serve within the sheriff's office, this request and stated peril to our members, should we not comply, has put us in an unenviable position. We remain committed to transparency and fiscal responsibility and to the well-being of our members. We welcome further discussion to better understand the operational needs that prompted this request.
Until then, we cannot blindly support a request without being part of the discussion. Thank you.
Thank you. Next.
Hello. Thank you for your time. My name is Steven Wales, and my cousin and I own Fogs Inn Distillery down in Gonzales. Since 2021, through persistence and a strong commitment to quality and sustainability, we've been able to grow our small business through beyond the typical focus that most craft distilleries in our business have been limited by. And we currently sell our product all over the state of California, but we produce it right here in Monterey County.
But we rely on local sources for our ingredients because I believe smaller supply chains are more resilient and help build stronger communities, keeping more dollars circulating here in Monterey County. The proposed budget would reduce public support for services that directly benefit businesses like mine. These businesses, in turn, contribute a substantial portion of the county's total expenditures. Supporting Sea Monterey is essential because it provides a vital downstream public service for all local businesses, not just in hospitality, which generates $3,000,000,000 a year and employs 27,000 residents not in and around Monterey County. These businesses depend on local supply chains and in turn support local businesses throughout the county.
And while taking a hard look at inefficiency is clearly very important, we should not make cuts at the expense of services like C Monterey that provide real tangible financial benefits to our local industry networks. See Monterey is a window into our county for visitors from outside the county, helping to sustain our unique tourism based economy. The closure of long standing businesses and restaurants across across California shows that once a unique resource like tourism begins to fade, it rarely returns. As international travel becomes more limited due to proposed tariffs, a strong public service like Sea Monterey is even more important than ever. Support for organizations like this provide a tangible benefit to businesses like mine.
Reducing funding reducing this funding risks our future for tourism based service economies and which is essential for our local jobs like mine well, businesses like mine.
Thank you for
your time.
Thank you. Mister Farmer.
Low investment, high return. Pat Farmer, Monterey County Business Council. I believe the supervisors understand already the argument in favor of our funding, so I won't reiterate it now. I do just want to point out one thing. In the staff report, I know there's a lot of work that goes into that, but it did reference some outdated information for MCBC. It didn't mention that we now run the Small Business Development Center. So we have to get local funding, which we cobble together from investment and that of other cities and and counties. So we need that support. We thank you for your consideration. I'm gonna yield my other eighty seconds, and I'm gonna remind you my four words, low investment, high return. Thank you.
Thank you, mister Farmer. Mister Bernstein?
Good afternoon, supervisors. My name is Danny Bernstein. I'm the CEO of the Reservoir and a lead partner in the Salinas Valley AgTech Alliance. This includes Hartnell College, Rancho Cielo, Digital Nest, Mujeres and Accion, and dozens of other partners, including industry partners like Western Growers and John Deere. We've heard today about the many challenges facing county revenue.
I'm here with a specific shovel ready proposal to help close that gap by keeping tech wages here, bringing new companies and capital to Monterey County, and creating local high quality jobs. We're asking for your support to clarify on two fronts. First, we're requesting a county contribution to match the 895,000 we've already received from the state of California through California Jobs First. This is not to fund the whole initiative, but to send a clear signal to Sacramento that Monterey County is invested in Sirius. A local match strengthens our competitiveness as we go after millions more in grant dollars and significantly more public and private funding.
Second, we're asking for direct planning support from Craig Spencer's department and a refund or credit on planning and permitting fees. Reservoir Farms is slated to open this fall, but timely coordination is critical to keep us on track. Even modest support here would make a real difference. The initiative is already delivering results. Four companies from outside California have already committed, and they will bring $20,000,000 in venture capital with them, but they will only commit if they can deliver if we can deliver the infrastructure they need.
Our goal is by twenty thirty, five hundred new jobs, 50 new companies in Monterey County, $100,000,000 in new capital investment, 600 student internships, and over a thousand incumbent ag workers upskilled. This is real, it's ready, and we need your partnership. Thank you.
Thank you, mister Bernstein. Mister Curcio.
Good afternoon. Thank you, mister chair and supervisors. My name is Gary Curcio. I'm the director of government affairs for the Monterey County Hospitality Association. The county's investment percentage has dropped significantly. For over a decade, it hovered around 6% for both the county and the city of Monterey. The county share is now closer to King City's level than to Monterey. Is that fair given the county's role and return on investment? The goal of the hospitality industry isn't only survive, but to become stronger, more competitive, and more successful, which will benefit all communities, residents within Monterey County. Rick Aldinger and I attended the CalTravel legislative conference last week in Sacramento.
We heard from a couple of governor Newsom's assistance about the need for putting our foot on the gas to promote travel to combat some of the policies that are coming down from Washington as far as tariffs and in in harming businesses, our travel industry from, Canada and Mexico as well. Our competitors are completely on board of getting that done. We talk to them. The county has to decide whether to be a major player in the tourism business. There is no treading water. Destinations are either advancing or falling behind. So we urge you to please maintain a minimum of last year's funding. Thank you.
Thank you, mister Curcio. Brian? Mister Flores?
Thank you, supervisor. Chair Lopez, members of the board. Sorry. Deep, very white voice here. It goes with my mustache.
Just wanted to put one last plug in for our parks positions. You you all know me and know that we're in this for the long haul and trying to turn the parks division around. And without these four positions that we're coming to for, especially the ranger positions, senior water specialist and the senior secretary, we risk public safety, we risk not being able to fulfill our duties with some of the county commissions that we oversee, the Parks Commission, the Fish and Game Commission, the East Garrison Advisory Commission, putting additional strain on public works and facilities secretarial staff to assist with those, and then putting us in risk of being out of compliance with state mandates for our sewer and water systems. Just a plug for that. You all know the tremendous work that the Rangers do, that other staff do in the name of serving the public and getting the public in our parks and providing recreation services and public safety.
If you give that careful consideration, we'd greatly appreciate. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Flores. Ms. Hutchinson.
Thank you, chair Lopez, supervisors. I'm Jackie Otchison, executive director of the Arts Council for Monterey County. I'm here today to urge the board to fully fund the arts based on the board approved formula for the DSA partners, not as a luxury, but as a necessity for our shared future. The arts are the soul of our community. They tell our stories, preserve our diverse cultures, and bring us together across language, age, and background.
But they are also a powerful economic engine. Cultural tourism draws visitors from around the world. Local artists, festivals, and galleries support jobs, drive spending, and breathe life into our downtown and neighborhoods. We are currently creating a mural tour, which will be on our free mobile app, and that will help us drive more tourism with the support of C Monterey. In our schools, the arts are proven pass a path to success.
They boost academic achievement, improve graduation rates, and keep our youth engaged and inspired, especially those most in need of opportunity. In a world driven by innovation, creativity is not an optional an option. It is essential. The arts also strengthen mental health and public safety, whether it's a mural project that transforms a blighted wall or a theater program that gives a young person a voice. The arts make our community stronger, safer, and more connected.
Art is not something that's just nice to have when other more important things have been taken care of. That philosophy devastated the arts during the pandemic when many funders diverted support from the arts to basic needs, not understanding that art is a basic need. I understand that Supervisor O'Ralejo's office is still receiving emails and notes about the Chular mural, that they really appreciate that. And I know I'm running out of time here. So I just wanna say thank you for considering the art, and please let's invest in what makes Monterey County thrive thrive. Thank you.
Thank you, Jackie. Miss Chigarot.
Alright. Good afternoon. I'm Janine Chikarat. I am the managing director of the Portola Hotel and Spa, also the incoming chair of C Monterey. I'm beginning to think I am the crisis management hospitality person because I was chair of MCHA during COVID.
Anyway, I am here today to really talk well, first of all, I you guys having a $2,300,000,000 budget in in in normal times is tough, and having to make the decisions you have to make is really I I recognize how difficult it is for each and every one of you. But, I'm here today to talk about what's happening real time right now. Six weeks ago, we had a group that canceled ten days out. It was a significant group, and it was because of Trump's tariffs. They ended up paying us a $120,000 in a deposit, but that wasn't that wasn't, you know my owners would kill me if I said it the money wasn't it.
I felt horrible for the 31 employees that lost a day of work. I felt terrible for all the Tipton employees that also lost the revenue. We recently we also had a group following that was one of our major ag companies, and again, they lost several of their people from Mexico that did not attend this group. So again, we're compounded back to back by those two groups. We launched a newsletter to spur summer business, and I asked the reservation manager, how's it going? And she goes, you wouldn't believe the emails I'm getting. I'm like, what are you talking about? Go forward me some. So I I I picked one that was clean, but this one says, hey there. We won't be coming back to your until your Hobo president is out of the office.
How dare he and his thugs keep talking about invading my country, Canada? Do your country a favor and start standing up to maggots from the from a proud Canadian. We've never experienced that. So, you know, we're we're we're in a situation where cutting back funding in normal times is not great for us. But cutting back funding where we've got over and above unprecedented things happening to our industry, not to mention Big Sur having that road closed for over eight hundred days is absolutely torture. And Visit California estimates, we lose a million dollars a day with that highway closed. So that's another major issue compounding our destination. Thank you.
Mister Carrat. Anyone else in the room?
Good afternoon, supervisors, chair. Thank you for your a moment. You've already heard enough from me. I was here twice last week, so I'll only step up here for a moment to say that, Kathleen Lee from Pueblo Beach Company submitted a letter in writing to the clerk. I just wanted to point that out, and that's all I'll say about that. Thank you.
Thank you. Anyone else in the room on a call? Alright. We're gonna go to Zoom.
Rick Aldinger.
Mister Aldinger, floor is yours. I'll give you a second to unmute yourself.
Good afternoon. Thank you, chair Lopez, supervisors. This is Rick Hauldinger, cochair of the Monterey County Hospitality Association's Government Affairs Committee. It looks to me like, you know, we have a choice to make today. We can fully fund C.
Monterey in support of the county's second largest industry, which will in turn support the hospitality workforce, giving people hours and shifts, which gives them the ability to pay rent and support their families. It would also increase DOT revenues into the county budget, allowing us to fund a variety of programs, services, infrastructure, and the like, many of which we've heard here today. Or we can cut our marketing budget, something any experienced business person would advise against, especially during any type of economic downturn. This will hurt our workforce along with the county's ability to fund the programs, services, and infrastructure I mentioned, some of them very near and dear to our hearts due to decreased KOT revenue. MCHA respectfully urges you to fund c monterrey at the full 6% outlined in the DSA formula or at a minimum at least last year's level for the good of everyone.
Thank you very much.
Thank you. Next.
Kristen Coates.
Kristen? Kristen? Alright. We'll come back. Next speaker?
Eric Upman.
Hi. Thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Eric Upman, and I serve as treasurer on the board of Sea Monterey, and I work at the Canary Row Company as vice president of marketing. Before we begin, I just wanna acknowledge the hard work that you and your staff have all put into this budget process.
Every department and organization represented here plays a critical role in our community, and I'm I'm humbled by how challenging it is to allocate limited resources in a way that supports so many essential needs. So thank you for what you're doing today. I'm joining you today not only as a c Monterey board member, but as someone whose life and career has been directly shaped by Monterey County tourism and its in effect on the economy. After more of a decade working in the advertising industry, first in Detroit and then in the Bay Area, it was a job in hospitality and tourism that brought me back home. Thanks to my role at the Canterbury Road Company, I was able to return to Pacific Grove where I grew up and raised my son here.
That's the kind of impact this industry has. It's not just jobs, but roots and generational community. As our county's destination marketing organization, c Monterey is central to that. Destination marketing creates awareness and brings visitors here, which drives over $3,000,000,000 in travel spending and supports more than 27,000 jobs across Monterey County. So from Salinas to Seaside to Carmel and certainly along Canary Road, this organization fuels the economy with sustained small business, local government revenue, and stable year round employment.
It's important to underscore that Sea Monterey is a true public private partnership. Hotels like those on Canary Row and others across the county contribute directly through self assessed fees that fund the tourism improvement district that's matched by public investment from county and individual cities, all guided by a board that includes both private business leaders and public officials. It's a model of shared investment, shared responsibility, and shared success. The county's contribution isn't just spending its strategy. It helps us stay competitive, attract high value visitors, and bring back meetings and events to support tourism that respects and benefits our community. All of this provides a direct and measurable return on investment with travel spending every three years.
Miss Troutman. Thank you. Next speaker.
Micah Birdsall. Bierdsall.
Micah?
Yes. Good afternoon, chair and board members. My name is Micah Beardsall. I'm the administrator from operations manager for the North County Parks. Thank you for the opportunity to speak on behalf of the parks division.
I'm here today to respectfully request your support in funding four critical positions, two park rangers, one senior utility specialist, and one senior secretary. Our parks are more than green spaces. They are viral community assets that support public health, environmental stewardship, and community well-being. But maintaining them safely and effectively requires boots on the ground and expertise behind the scenes. First, the two park ranger positions are essential for assuring public safety, enforcing regulation, and providing a visible, reassuring presence in our parks.
With increasing visitation and expanding responsibilities, we're seeing a rise rising demands on our existing staff. Additional ranges will improve response times, reduce incidents, and help us maintain a welcoming environment for all visitors. Second, the senior utility specialist is critical for the maintenance and efficient operation of our aging infrastructure. From portable water systems to electrical panels, this role ensures we're maximizing energy efficiency, minimizing downtime, and proactively addressing costly repairs, ultimately saving taxpayer dollars over time. Lastly, the senior secretary provides the administration backbone that keeps the division running smoothly.
From managing contracts and budgets to coordinating communication and logistics, this position ensures that our frontline staff can focus on what they do best, serving the public. In summary, these roles are not new luxuries. They are necessary investments to protect what we already have and deliver the highest standard or service our community expects and deserves. I thank you for your time and your continued support.
Thank you, Micah. Next speaker.
John Anthony. John?
Good afternoon, chair Lopez and Monterey County supervisors. I know I spoke earlier. I just wanna reiterate, you know, the importance of these two positions. You know, as the assembly bill this morning stated, we are under 33% of our total staffing. And to take that into perspective over this last Memorial Day weekend, Friday through Monday, between four rangers, there was eighty four hours of overtime worked that could be drastically reduced with the additional staff, and that doesn't include what overtime is gonna be incurred this week to try to get staff at least part of their days off.
I don't believe any of my staff have their full days off this week just to make up for it. Years ago, there was a lot more of us, you know, way over fifteen, twenty, and there's now five of us currently working in Monterey County. The work's still there. The people are still there. We all still truly care about our customers, and this this is their Disneyland from something I heard may have heard from a supervisor.
You know, the the families that come here, a lot of them can't afford Disneyland for a week, but they can come to the lake. They can come to Toro Park and enjoy and have good quality family time. And that's something that can't be replaced, especially in the children as they grow and that's perpetuated on. It's gonna help facilitate that and show the importance of family time being outdoors and enjoying what Monterey County has to offer. So I would really like to encourage the board to not only fund the two unfilled park ranger positions, but as well as the water sis senior water specialists and the senior secretary because that's just the beginning.
We need a lot more staff out here so that we can better provide services for the people of Monterey County and make their lives better and hopefully, you know, build the memories that are the true importance of a family and what these kids really deserve in our county. Thank you for your time.
Thank you, Ranger Anthony. Next.
Sabina iPhone.
Thank you for taking my call. My name is Bina Patel. I own and operate two small hotels in Monterey and currently serve as the chair at Sea Monterey. Limited service hotels like mine represent about 8,000 rooms countywide. This is almost two thirds of the total room inventory.
Small hotels like mine do not have the bandwidth nor do we have the large marketing budgets or the expertise to market our hotels. Small hotels and businesses rely very heavily on SeaMonterrey to bring visitors to Monterey County, not only to help us on our daily, everyday heads in beds, but more importantly, we need SeaMonterrey to position Monterey County so that in a year or two or three years' time when international market rebounds, when conventions come back in full force, we are positioned so that we are not losing businesses to our competitors like Napa or San Diego or Paso Robles. It's very, very important for SeaMonterrey to continue to re receive the full funding so that small businesses can keep our heads above water and increase our heads and beds. Thank you very much.
Thank you, miss Patel. Next.
Phone number ending in 436.
436.
Hello. This is Eloise Jim, and I'm a Monterey County resident. And I'm calling to talk about the Department of Child Services Child Support Services, which I consider to be a department in Monterey County that is dysfunctional. I have a family member who is regrettably ensnared in the Monterey County Child Support system, which causes him an inordinate amount of misery. And that affects me personally because I feel compelled to rescue or at least support him when he gets literally scalped and left destitute by the department.
Parents who are divorced and separated from their children's co parent should not become, as my son calls it, their indentured servant, which is the best case scenario. And it's more like they become their economic and monetary slaves. Things like the Franchise Tax Board emptying their bank accounts without any notice, and that's happened twice to my family member. It's not right. It's not fair.
It's reprehensible. That kind of garnishment is unethical and no doubt illegal. The department should have some kind of protections for those they serve. Rendering a child's parent destitute is not helping the child. It's dysfunctional government driving people into homelessness when they are following the rules and working hard seven days a week, three sixty five days a year. Thank you.
Thank you, Eloise. Next.
Yes. Havik Patel.
Good afternoon, supervisors. My name is Bhavik Patel, and I'm the owner of the In At Moss Landing Point. Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today. As a small business owner, I see every day just how critical tourism is to our local economy and how vulnerable it can be in uncertain times. With the economic shifts, unpredictable travel trends, strong and consistent marketing is essential to keep our region competitive.
That's why SeaMonterey is so important. Their marketing reach marketing helps reach small communities like Moss Landing They are dysfunctional. Stay visible to travelers we'd never reach on our own. They truly help level the playing field, but their value goes beyond promotion. When the Moss Landing power plant fire occurred, Sea Monterrey acted quickly, communicating clearly with the county, businesses, and visitors.
They helped manage the narrative and, in recovery, brought in media support to restore confidence and drive visitation back to our area. Their work in those moments predicted not just our local businesses, but the reputation of Monterey County as a safe welcoming destination, which obviously was everybody's concern after that fire. Continued investment in SeaMonterey is an investment in strength, visibility, and resilience of businesses like mine throughout the county. Thank you for your time and continued support.
Thank you, Havoc. Next speaker.
Yes. Lisa twelve Promax.
Lisa?
Hi. Board of supervisors, thank you for the opportunity to speak today. My name is Lisa Sears. And?
Lisa, we lost you there.
Hello. Am I on?
Yeah. We've got you now. Go ahead.
Okay. Hello, board of supervisors. Thank you for the opportunity to speak today. My name is Lisa Sears, and I volunteer my time to coordinate the feral cat clinics for SNP bus for the county and the city of Salinas. I wanna thank you first off for your unwavering support since 2020 to bring low cost spay neuter services to our communities in need throughout Monterey County.
We are currently in the process of wrapping up 94 clinics for public pets and feral cats, including funding from the county, the city of Salinas, and grants that Hitchcock Road Shelter received. Last year, we fixed a record high of 1,160 feral cats. We are literally ground zero for making sure Hitchcock Shelter is not inundated with cats and unwanted kittens and also dogs. I respectfully ask you to fund the additional 26,700 to bring the total amount to 200,000, which is the ask from animal services for this low cost spay neuter vertical. Spay neuter is the literal only solution to our pet overpopulation problem, and Snip Bust has been with this county since 2018 putting in the work, helping the communities that are the most socially and economically disadvantaged.
There is no better time than now to speak up for animals. Hitchcock Road Shelter is consistently overcapacity. I would know. I go to every JPA meeting. And the most effective solution is source control. By reducing the source of unwanted and unaltered pets, we are able to provide relief for Hitchcock Road. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Lisa. Next.
Yes. And I apologize if I'm not pronouncing this name correctly, but Quilp Shane Orser.
Good afternoon, Chair Lopez and supervisors. My name is Shane Orser. I'm the director in sales and marketing here at the Quail Lodge in the Valley. I am grateful for your time today because I wanted to speak out about our concern with the proposed reduction in funding for Seamount Hooray. They've been fantastic partners for us, and they've helped us increase our business.
They get the word out about our wonderful destination, and they bring people here. And I can understand that today might be a difficult day for you all as you've got so many people asking for resources and only limited resources. So it only makes sense to me that we would keep the programs in place that are there to build the revenue that we need. One interesting fact I'd like to share with you is that in 2020, '4, our occupancy is much lower than it was in 2029. We have the opportunity to increase by about 5% in occupancy, and every 1% of increased occupancy translates to $600,000 of revenue.
So that's money that we can use for all the various things that people have asked for today. So, we at the Quail are in support of maintaining the current spend for SeaMonterrey. We're grateful to you and to them for their partnership. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Shane. Next.
David Prena.
David.
Hi. My name is David Preena. I'm a resident of Prunedale. And first, I'm calling to thank you for, your funding this year for additional staff to support the county sustainability program and their work on the the climate action plan. I think that's an it's thank you so much.
I know that that's, help is needed there. But I also further urge you that, as the cap is adopted and implemented to consider more staffing, to ensure the county can hit its climate emissions reduction targets and its mitigation goals. Climate change isn't waiting for us and now is more urgent than ever to act. But also furthering the the quick adoption of low and no carbon technologies in the county will ensure that Monterey residents can enjoy lower energy bills, safer homes, and safer communities. So please consider, staffing up to the the scale of the challenge. And, yeah, I appreciate your support so far.
Thank you so much. Thank you, mister Prena. Next.
Yes. LJ.
Hi. Good hi. Good afternoon. Hi, board of supervisors and, supervisor chair Lopez. I'm Laura, and I am here to speak on behalf of Spey and Neutervas. We know that animal overpopulation is a problem in our county, especially in Salinas and unincorporated Salinas. And the only way to prevent euthanasia in our local shelters is to prevent the animals from ever being born, and the only way to do that is with spay and neuter. We know that one female cat can get pregnant at the age of four months, and she can have four litters. And literally, you can have 24 cats in one year from just one female cat. We know we need animal control officers to patrol the streets.
We know we need a bigger shelter to house them, but most of all, we need funding to help prevent them from being born and living a life on the streets. We know there are just too many animals, and we just can't keep up. Salinas and Unincorporated Salinas is the number one intake for city for both shelters in our county. Intake is high. Our kennel count is low.
There simply aren't enough homes for all the animals, so we have to euthanize more annually than we adopt out here locally. We are seeing these numbers statewide, and studies are showing us that there are four dogs for every person to adopt them. So I'm here today to ask you to continue to fund the SNIP bus. We thank you so much for always supporting us. We have been here since pre COVID. But our goal is to help prevent people from selling puppies on the street, to help people stop using inhumane measures to eradicate cats in their neighborhoods with poison. We know they're kicking them. They're running them over. They're being shot. And so the only way to prevent this is to prevent them from being born, and the only way to do that is with spay and neuter.
So please continue to keep funding the SNP bus, and we are our goal is to continue to be in those underserved communities. Thank you.
Thank you, Laura. Next. Christine
Hello. Can you hear me now?
We can.
Oh, wonderful. Good afternoon, chair Lopez and county supervisors. Thank you for the opportunity to speak today. My name is Kristen Coates, and I'm the executive director of Regenerative California. I'm here today to request a $170,000 in onetime funding to support the future of Blue.
This is a community based initiative to reimagine and to revitalize Monterey County's working waterfronts and blue economy that includes regional tourism, workforce development, and Monterey's ongoing leadership in ocean science and conservation. This 170,000 is only one half of the total budget necessary to launch this work. But as was already stated by supervisors Church Nalejo, Melissa Mahoney and I, last week, who's from, Monterey Bay Fisheries Trust, presented at the economic development committee. And at that time, the committee unanimously recommended our project for, funding consideration at today's meeting. We are already in phase one with research and planning with seed support from the Monterey Bay Aquarium, Community Foundation of Monterey County, and the Resources Legacy Fund.
We have incredible momentum and support from the community, so this year is absolutely ideal for secure for securing your support. Excuse me. And with your support, we are in a strong position to secure additional funding from philanthropy and other entities. Thank you for your time and for listening, and good luck with your hard decisions this year or this meeting. Thank you.
Thank you. Next.
Monica Lau. Monica.
Hello, supervisor, supervisors. Thank you for your work today. My name is Monica Lau. I'm speaking on behalf of the Monterey Peninsula Chamber of Commerce and our members. Thank you for the difficult decisions you're making. I would like to speak in support of SeaMonterey and their work they're doing. I share little in conjunction with the previous speaker, I sit on the National Marine Sanctuary Advisory Committee. Hello?
Can
you hear me?
We we've got you, Monica. Sorry. It seems like somebody got unmuted there. I stopped the clock. Go ahead.
Okay. I'll be quick. It was sits on the National Marine Sanctuary Advisory Committee in the business seat, and we met on Friday. And the funding for NOAA is really significant or lack of funding, I should say. And seeing Sea Monterey also help support recognition and care for our national marine sanctuary is pretty significant. I think we're all gonna have to play a part in elevating that. And I I hope and understand you have to make significant cuts in many areas, but I hope some some can be maintained for c Monterey. Thank you.
Thank you, Monica.
And Nathan Merkel.
Good afternoon, chair loop sorry. Good afternoon, chair Lopez and fellow supervisors. My name is Nathan Merkel. I'm the administrative operations manager for South County Parks. I oversee the Lakes properties as well as San Lorenzo Park in King City.
I wanted to just briefly speak to the positions that were presented today. First and foremost, the two ranger positions, I do not see, as Micah mentioned, additional positions, but ones that we require for base services. To put it into perspective, we've seen in the last two years over 100% growth in revenues and visitation, and yet our our staffing numbers have remained relatively stagnant. The memorial weekend that we had last weekend, was another very successful weekend for us. We pulled in over $220,000 in revenues at Nacimano as well as over a $110,000 in five days at Lake San Antonio.
Now with that increased visitation and revenue, unfortunately, come a lot of problems. We have thousands of people in the park. Obviously, John Anthony mentioned that there was over eighty four hours of overtime for our ranger crew. The rangers not only provide public safety, but they also provide customer service, which is something that people don't recognize. We have one opportunity to convert a new guest at our parks, especially at Lake San Antonio, Nacimiello, into a loyal customer.
And one of the things that drives people away more than anything else in a camping environment is noise complaints, loud music at 02:00 in the morning, etcetera. And, actually, it's the ranger staff that deals with that. They work until 02:00 in the morning on these big weekends, shutting down loud music, shutting down boisterous groups, and we really, really need that in order to continue this growth. I'd also like to briefly speak on the senior utility staff member. We have done okay without that position.
It's been vacant for several years, but, unfortunately, I have been needing to, coordinate with the regional board. We have several citations, actually water system citations that are currently open that we're working towards, rectifying, but we have large waste water and water treatment facilities at all of our parks, and this senior utility worker is the one that should be responsible for the regulatory compliance portion of it.
Thank you, mister Merkel.
Thank you.
From chair Lupi's. Anybody else on Zoom? All right. Seeing none, we'll come back in the room. I see Jackie at the dice, so we'll give you the floor, Jackie.
Thank you so much,
honorable supervisors. My name is Jackie Cruz. I'm vice president of advancement at Hartnell College and a founding partner of the Salinas Valley AgTech Alliance alongside the Reservoir Rancho Cielo, Digital Ness, Mujeres and Accion, and key industry leaders like the Western Growers and John Deere. Today, we've heard about the financial pressures that the county is facing, and we're here as a collective to offer a solution that's already in motion, one that brings long term investment, quality jobs, and career pathways directly to Monterey County residents. Of course, at Hartnell, we see the talent every day.
We believe in that brilliance, and we believe that our young people will be the innovators that take us to the next level. What we don't see are enough high quality jobs to match that brilliance and that preparation that we've worked so hard to invest in in the last twelve to fifteen years. The Salinas Valley AgTech Alliance is designed to fix that. With their support, we'll train the next generation of automation technicians, robot robotic engineers, and field technologists, not for jobs outside of the area, but for companies that want to plant roots here in our beautiful Monterey County. We're asking for two things to help make this happen.
First, we'd like to ask you to consider contributing a match to the $895,000 that we've already received from California Jobs First. This will help position us in competition and and give us strength with some of the other communities that are also applying for further California Jobs First funding, specifically an investment of $5,000,000. Second, we're requesting planning support through Craig Spencer's office and a refund or credit on planning fees to help us open reservoir farms by this 2025, a one of a kind incubator where students and workers will try train alongside real companies solving real problems in ag. Those companies are already coming from outside of California and train from outside The US, bringing more than $20,000,000 in investment. Is my time up?
Okay. Thank you so much. We appreciate the opportunity.
Thank you. Anyone else in the room? One more call for folks on Zoom. Alright. Everybody's been given multiple shots here.
We're gonna close it and bring it back to the board. At this time, I'm gonna just outline what I'm hoping will be processed, but typically in the past, I've outlined that, and we just go in an altogether different direction. So what I'm hoping we'll do is work through give each supervisor an opportunity to talk about what their hopes, concerns, support may be for different requests that we've heard today. We're gonna work through all five of us and then send it back to staff who will keep a list of what those positions are and pull the board and ask if there's three at least three members in support of those requests. So during that time, you'll have time to raise questions about funding and where it may exist, may not exist, how it can be moved, not moved, and accessed or not accessed or raised concerns about using certain pots of funding as well.
Any questions about process at this point?
Could we first maybe just have any questions or comments that we might have from the process here before we get into the details of the
From the process or Give me an example and I'll tell you yes or no.
I mean, some questions from the presentations, I guess, that might be popping up and any I know we've looked at the individual presentations, but not at the whole. I know I have a few questions from what we've seen before I go through and actually start outlining these, I feel, priorities.
Okay. Let's any questions at this point? Maybe to kick us off to show an example of how that can be done, I'm gonna go to mister Flores real quick and ask a question here. Mister Flores, if you'd come forward, this is chair Lupis We're working you forward. Sorry, Nate. I know you're listening. That was just for fun. I don't take it personal.
It's a mustache.
So last year, we came in at the parks well over 1,000,000 in terms of the expected revenue. This year, barring an algal bloom, a fire, and all those things that could happen, what do you see as other potential challenges to your budget that may not have existed last year within that particular vein, given the obvious concern that we've heard raised from your public horse facility and Parkside and your staff and yourself for rangers?
Right. The one thing that's really holding us back from realizing our full potential for revenue, which I would like to reinvest back into the parks that that revenue is generated from, Lake San Antonio being one of them, are our utilities, our camp RV pedestals, the electrical, the sewer, the water. Just two weeks ago, when we had the Wildflower Festival, they had to spend about $60,000 in portable toilets and showers because we had to close our hard structures because the sewer lines and water lines couldn't can't handle that capacity.
I appreciate that. So a follow-up question here. In terms of the last year's memorial versus this year's memorial, what was the difference in takes as you've been able to analyze so far, knowing we're only a few days out of that?
So far, it seems like visitorship was up. We're still crunching the numbers. Those were some some initial approximations from Nate. But, you know, up a little bit. A lot of people were nervous about some green water. The algae is starting to tick up a little bit. But if we don't have a fish die off, if algae stays relatively calm, We we could have a banner year. People the word's getting out that Lake San Antonio is back. We need to invest and get those stores fixed. We need to get our lodging fixed. We need to get our utilities fixed. But what along with that comes added visitorship and the need for those rangers. Thank you.
That answers my questions. I saw a hand up for supervisor Alejo, did you have additional questions?
Was I ready to go on Process?
Not yet. We're we're doing process questions at this point for staff based off of presentations and public comment. So I'm gonna go to supervisor Church. Oh, did you?
Yeah. I just wanted to just because it's such an important point. We heard from our four development set asides. I I don't know if the if Debbie or our CEO wanna comment on that because that's a that's a big one. It's a big proposed cut, I think, of almost 800 plus thousand dollars from last year. So maybe just elaborate on that because we didn't get a full presentation on why staff made that recommendation in the budget.
Can I share my screen? So, as you know, we were looking for funding for positions and, as the direction from the budget workshop was to save as many positions as we could. Actually, I think the direction was to save all of them. And so we looked where we could for funding, and this is one of the places that we can use funding. One thing I didn't mention before is that for our financial policies, I think there is $8,700,000 in contingencies that is given to the board at the beginning of the year.
We are not allowed to touch that. Only the board can touch it. So there's only certain pots of money we can go to to find money to make things happen, and this is one of the pots. So what we did is here is the history of it, and we just went back to, year 2223 and used that number to fill in positions. It didn't have more to that. It's just one of the places we could go to to get funding to move the recommended forward, and then these other decisions could be made at this time by the board.
Yeah. And, Debbie, just because in even through all the hardships that we have gone through through COVID and wildfires and things, one thing that has has remained stable and steady steadily increasing has been property tax and TOT. Just, you know, we're proposing cut from the DSAs, but our TOT seems to have continued to grow. Do we expect the overall TOT to continue to increase in the next fiscal year?
I'd hope so. To be honest with you, between the year that we use the '23 I mean, the '22 because it goes back two years to the next year, there was really only a $38,000 difference in this allocation, so it didn't grow as much as we probably would have hoped. So in those two years, it it didn't grow, but it did grow. And, you know, as long as the economy stays good, I would hope that, and you had mentioned even before there's gonna be more hotel rooms, everything else coming online. Hopefully, those will increase and increase our TOT. Same with property taxes, obviously, unless there's a downturn in the in the economy, we would would hopefully not see any downturn in that as well.
Thank you for the additional explanation. And I just wanna be clear. I I support keeping the the DSAs at least where they were this this pat this current fiscal year. Thank you.
Roger Church?
Sure. So I have a question here, but I actually should look at all this, a couple of comments to to bake into there. And since we're talking about the the TOT and and everything, my big concern that I see onto this is one of the things we ask in these organizations is long term planning. But when a budget goes up and down, it's kind of hard to do a long term planning for any of them. And so I know that's not really into the formula, but I just feel like don't need to raise it that I think maybe we need to work into something so the funding is somehow a little more stable so they can actually do the planning a little bit better since we're requesting out of that maybe maybe on a maybe on a different than a yearly cycle, maybe a two or three year cycle, something along that line.
Don't know how anybody else thinks about it, but it's just something I've I've noticed. I know and since we have the screen up here too, they own the road fund was cut. Big advocate of the roads. I understand the circumstances we're in. You know, by 25% is where we had talked about putting it at.
If we're gonna cut it for this year for a one year basis to make it, that's that's I can live with that. But I don't know what our funding situation is gonna be next year. Hopefully, it'll be better. I hope that maybe we can start back up to the base where we were onto that. The other thing that I'm really uncomfortable with is the use of the AA funds into here.
I mean, this is we haven't received a dollar on these yet. We don't have a plan of how we're gonna spend these. And we've made considerable promises to the residents and corporate residents of this county on how it should be spent. And so it's difficult for me to really go and support spending something where which we they can't one, we haven't received any money, and two, we just don't have a plan on how we're gonna spend it. So I'm I'm really, really uncomfortable with that, and I don't think I'm quite ready to sign off on.
But the other thing that comes up here, and this is where I need to get a little more information on, and looking through public works, not public works, but facilities, parks and public works, all three of them here, There's a VAMP program. And they're that's the only department that I'm seeing that has is is looking for funding on this VAMP. How much how much money does go in yearly into the VAM program? And are all the departments contributing this year? And if we didn't contribute this year, could, you know, could we delay it one year? And and how much more money would that bring us in?
So, to be honest, I'm learning more about the VAM program in the last thirty minutes than I've learned in the last, month I've been doing this or whatever it's been. But, so what I found out is what I'm understanding is that the VAM program is voluntary by department, so they choose to be in it or not be in it. And one thing that really just made me a little happier in my prior county, I've watched this get into a lot of trouble because it was all dumped in one pot. Appear in this county, we are keeping it separate, so everybody is putting into their own pot. So if a department wants to put into the VAM program, which is a percentage of their depreciation, so they depreciate vehicles just like you would in any business.
Right? And then they take their current vehicles, depreciate them, put it into the VAM program. They'll have that money available to them to buy vehicles in prior years. So, my understanding we don't run it. I don't run it. Public Works Facilities and Parks runs the VAM program, but I was just talking to the analyst over there. And my understanding is it's their choice to put into it or not.
So there are other departments that that have vehicles, but they don't go into the VAM program?
That is my understanding.
Yeah. How do they get new vehicles?
They budget for it in the year that they're gonna buy them.
Well, you know, I just I'm just kinda wondering if we really really it's kinda late in the game for this in many ways, but the new vehicles that we're purchasing and things that we're looking for ways to scrape by on some money with. In the past, we've always gone, well, let's not pave this road. Well, can we we not, like, purchase vehicles or or unless we have a real great need for something. So it says we have a hiring freeze, whether we can have a purchase freeze on some of these and how much impact would that really have. And I know this is, you know, bottom of the ninth two out. I'm asking this question, but it had never really come to my mind here till till now.
My understanding is that each department has a, allocation that's theirs that they can use or not to buy the vehicles. And so, I mean, stopping them putting any money into that this year would bring the money back into their department to use for other I mean, if they would want to.
If we allow them. Right? I mean, the board can always say, no. We want that to go back to the general fund. Correct?
You know, I kinda I thought it was the decision there, but I just found out, like, ten minutes ago that people do it if they don't want. I was I was surprised that public works didn't put into it, and that's what started my questions. I was like, yeah. Well, don't doesn't everybody have to put into this? Could just kind of have my last two counties, had to. And the state actually came in and audited both counties, and they got in trouble for not doing it. But, in this county, it's just a voluntary program. So if they don't put it, I guess we could take their general fund allocation back and then reallocate it. So example, if, let's just say I don't wanna use an actual county name. So let's just say x y z department decided they don't wanna put into it, and we tell them, no.
You're not putting into VAMP this year. We can pull that money, general fund money back from them and give it to somebody else. Yeah. I would be telling them that they can't put into that fund that's here.
Okay. So taking all this in, I might have some more questions on this before we're done here.
I don't wanna get too close to sausage making. We bordered on it couple times there. So I'm gonna turn to any other questions before supervisor ask you?
Yeah. Thank you. I just look at kind of question process wise and also general comments, I think. So I guess I'm I I think I have my list of the legally required mandated programs and services that we have to say yes to funding today. But it would help me if I could make sure that I'm not missing anything and that I understand what the total amount of that comes to.
So if that's a request I could put out as we go through our next step of this process. And I think I've got, down on my list, elections, the CRO. There was a little bit in HR, animal control. There was some stuff out of public works, facilities and parks. I think I'm probably missing a few things.
And then there were, the district attorney positions, which I think maybe weren't required, but I wanna make sure I'm not missing that. And then I had okay. So what that was my first question. Like, what is there that's required that we have to figure out how to pay for so that we don't leave those out? And then the second question, there are some other things that are floating ahead of us.
Oh, the ERP program was the other one that I wanted to that's if we if we don't say yes to it now, we'll have to figure out how to fund it later. So other things that are floating out there like the jail health care RFP, upcoming IHSS negotiations, the ongoing wage study implementations, I mentioned the ERP implementation, and then we know that there are likely potential impacts of cuts to Medicaid that could affect county health and or natividad. So if we could have some sense of what those cost implications are that we need to have or be prepared to have resources available for over the course of this fiscal year into next year, things that we if we're not thoughtful about the actions that we take today, we could find ourselves in a more more challenging situation at the end of this year. So if I could have those two lists available, I think that would be helpful. And then I think in terms of my comments, just briefly, as I think about all of this, we're very clearly not in a position to adopt a structurally balanced budget today.
We're gonna be adopting a a a balanced budget because we're using one time funds, but we're using a lot of one time funds, to to balance this budget. And I as I look at the path that we're on, you know, we're already using cutting into the TOT road fund. If we're gonna back out of that for next year, we're gonna have to figure out how to structurally make other reductions. We've already again suspended the one fifteen pension which we said was gonna be a one time thing and then it was a one time thing the next year and now it's again being suspended based on our policy. The contingency reserve account that was one time money, we're spending that down now and we're being asked to spend our contingency going into this year in order to fulfill these legally required and mandated programs and services even knowing that mid year we've got some really big expensive things that are going to hit us like the ERP and the JL RFP.
So we don't have a lot of flexibility. Thank goodness that we have Measure AA coming at us, but I think we do want to be really intentional and we've committed to being intentional about how we spend those dollars. But to get to the point where we're making, you know, strategic reduction of workforce and we're not doing it in this haphazard way, if we don't get really strategic and become very intentional about the choices we're making, we're gonna be backed into a corner fairly quickly where we don't have a lot of options available to us. So as I look at all of this, there's a lot of things that I want to do, but it's becoming clearer and clearer to me that we we have we we don't have enough, cash available to do all of the things that we want. And if we're gonna be able to use the money that we have and make sure we have the cash available to fund the things that are gonna hit us over the next twelve months, we're gonna have to make sure we're planning for that.
So just a few few basic comments there.
K. With that, I think everybody's had a chance that wants one to ask questions, so we're to the point where we need to start giving direction. Do I have a volunteer to work through their list and go first? Which list?
Of our mandated required program? No.
But I think it was just what was stated at us. I know that it's been repeated a couple times today, but we can do you want staff to repeat those back, the mandatory pieces?
Yeah. If there was a spreadsheet that we could throw up on the screen or at least what the total amount of money that is. I think what
would be helpful is to first confirm which items the board wanted to support. I did a quick math, and it looks like it would be about 6,500,000.0 just on these different things that you had listed. But I think we need concurrence first that that's where the board would like to go. Elections, for example, is 1.44. CRO was mentioned at 67,000.
Human resources, a contract for negotiations, that's 40,000. Animal services is $2.05 2,000. The DA is 1,700,000.0. IT is 2,500,000.0, and then, the initial request from public works is approximately 650, I'm sorry, 580,000. So that gets us to about 6.5, but I think first we need to hear that that's where the board would like to go in terms of these different items. And I think that's what Debbie was kinda hoping for, is to have that revised list from the board of where what items they wanted to to look into.
I can, answer it. From what I believe that the question that you're asking is what is, like, mandated that we have to do. Right? So the elections, would believe, is our mandated one. And then there was one from, from CRO that was, 38,000. So other than that, the rest of them aren't mandated. If if we don't fund the ERP, that's not mandated. If we don't fund, you know, the DA, that's not mandated. So, I think what you're asking for is legally mandated, right, not mandated because it's something we'd like to do or wanna do.
So to clarify, we're we're how many millions of dollars into the ERP system? We we don't really have an option to say, no. We're not gonna finish out the ERP. So, like, mandated legally, yes, but also there's there's just some realities that we don't have the option to say no to and I would consider finishing out the ERP as a reality that we have to finish the ERP. We we have to have a system that that functions in that capacity. If we say no, we're not going to fund the ERP, like what is the alternative? We don't have an alternative to that. So unless I'm missing something here.
So the ERP, the estimate is for potential labor costs that may be associated with it that were added by the auditor controller's office. So there are pieces of the ERP that have already been implemented or are in the works, and this is planning for the next fiscal year. So if there is a concern in terms of the budget perspective, yes, we would have to reevaluate what pieces we'd be be able to come to complete. And there's a couple pieces of it that were to go live in 2026, my understanding.
Okay. And for instance, for public works, there was a water treatment contract that were required to fulfill
The one at the lakes?
The one at the lakes.
I don't know that it's a contract as much as we were trying to hire someone, but we haven't been able to hire someone, so we still have to do the work. But Nate's been covering the work. And so The work ethic that cannot have been able to cover it, but the request is to partially fund a consultant. I'm assuming based on the number because that's not gonna get you the amount you need to hire somebody. At the microphone, please, Brian, so that our public participating online is not kept in the dark.
So while Nate, administrative operations manager, Nate Merkel, has been assisting with that, we do have a consultant that acts as that, that person doing the analysis of the systems, things like that. Nate is strictly just pushing the paperwork to the state. We would still need that contracted, consultant to oversee the systems. And there's, like, three people in the state that have those qualifications. So So
we need to fund it or we don't need to fund it?
I would request that it is funded. Otherwise, we could potentially be in a situation where we're getting, notice from the state. And
Is it currently funded?
It's currently funded. Yes.
Okay. And then
the animal control, my understanding was that those were mandated responsibilities that we have to comply with. Am I misunderstanding that?
So this is where we really need the board's direction in terms of these items. The animal services is a commitment that was made in the JPA. If we reduce our amount, then Salinas would likely look into match our amount. They're still in budget discussion, and and so that so that's the $2.52. It's the combination, the combined request. The public works amount, the $5.80 includes that water specialist.
Right. And I guess I'm just I'm trying to get clarity and I heard I heard Debbie say it was just elections and the sorry. Just elections and the CRO. And then I heard at the time, I have this other list of a whole bunch of other things. So I'm just trying to get clarity. If what is what is mandated required, and then what are we also required to do? And I'm not clear on those answers.
I think there's if I may just jump in, it seems like there's almost two mandates we're talking about here. Like, one on elections. I mean, there isn't any fudging on that. We can't in Monterey County, can't just say, we're gonna skip the next June's election. Some of these others that are mandated, I think we're required to do, but somehow we're we're slipping by and and doing it enough to meet, if I understand it, some other requirements. While elections is and maybe there's some other things too. I think we need to see what really goes into elections that one we cannot fudge at all on. And and I is elections the only one on that?
The civil
right or c r o two?
So those are the two. The the first one is elections one point four four. We either fund it now or we're gonna have to find contingencies to fund it because she will have to run an election. Right? And so then the CRO, the number is 67,000, and that's for the combined items at at a minimum level.
So those are the two legally mandated. The others are ones that departments have been working on or are the preference would be to add additional support to continue those, including the DA's request of the 1.7. IT's request for the 2.5 is for the ERP system. If we're not able to fund it, then we need to regroup and see what we can do with the remaining dollars that are there now. So, again, we just need confirmation from all of you based on that list, and I and my guess is there's more, not just this list, but of the two items, it would be approx a little over 2,000,000.
Alright. Supervisor Daniels.
Thank you so much, chair Lopez. And this is my first budget hearing, so I'm praying that I get through this and I do the right thing in this moment. That if for any reason something gets lost, that we that that you let me know and that the county staff feel open and free to come to me and talk to me so we can get through this together. But there is more for me on that list, and, obviously, everything that you just iterated is not gonna get funded in this year's budget. But I'm really looking at at, on the one hand, not using one time funding for ongoing needs, and on the other hand, looking at where we have revenue generating opportunities and ensuring that we are not impacting our ability to continue to generate those revenues by making cuts today.
And, coupled with that, my comments about the road fund earlier that we're not cutting ourselves short today and then paying triple, quadruple in the long run by having to do a major road repair because we didn't keep our roads up. And so I I wanna start, because I haven't made any comments really yet today, by saying that I do really appreciate the straightforward and transparent process. I've observed other budget hearings, and I feel like this is one where we got the the the the reality, the straight truth. This is what we have, and these are the decisions that we we have to make. And so, I appreciate that from Debbie, and I appreciate Sonia's approach because it's also been very open and collaborative.
So number one, just it seems like the discretionary revenue, increases obviously don't match, if I have this correctly, the salaries and benefits. Right? We we have we have revenues that we raise. We have increased salaries and benefits. Those don't match.
That's the situation that we're in today. As the district five supervisor, I am concerned about two two issues in particular. And this isn't doesn't mean I'm not concerned about all the others, but the two that I wanna take the time to talk about are the, reduction in the DSAs and the road fund reductions. I think that some of the other issues that need funding, we may down the road be able to look at as we realize Measure AA funds and as a policy is developed around Measure AA. So I think it's broad, and as a policy is developed around Measure AA, we can see where we can be creative and figure out how to cover some of the other costs.
And I'm not on that committee. I'm not gonna start identifying what those are. That's up to you guys to figure out. But in terms of the DSAs and the road fund, I feel like as a supervisor, I have two responsibilities. I have the responsibility here, at this on the dais right now doing things like we're doing, the budget, and making sure that the county is funded so the services that our community relies on are available to our to our county.
But then in my community, I also have a responsibility to, make sure that we're always creating, for example, economic opportunities. So we're not always gonna be relying on jobs and industries that don't match the, the cost of living. We are focusing in the 5th District on building housing and really trying to focus our attention on creating places for people to live. This is related we're always focusing on maintaining our roads. This is related to the DSA allocation in my mind and the road fund allocation because in a tourist economy, there are impacts to the community.
And those impacts can be physical on the road, but they can also be in terms of the cost of living. We are in tremendous destination that people want to come to. They want to buy a second home. They want to convert a short term rental into a I mean, a long term rental into a short term rental. These are all part of living in a destination location that has made it really difficult for people to live here.
How do we combat that? We combat that by investing in entities like the MCBC that are gonna give a leg up to small businesses, that are gonna create opportunities for for small businesses to grow and create good paying jobs, to give small businesses a leg up. We invest in entities like Sea Monterrey so so smaller entities can get the marketing benefits that they need from a larger organization. So folks are working on our behalf to bring conferences and businesses here that are gonna generate even more revenue for the county. We invest in Sea Monterey in order to ensure that we're working with someone who truly understands that when you live in a tourist destination, there are gonna be impacts to the community and to the environment that we need to mitigate.
This isn't just a bullhorn publicity organization that's saying come to Monterey County. It's an organization that's really trying to make sure that when you live in a destination location, we're making sure our needs are met. A couple more points here, and I know I'm I'm on a soapbox right now. When you live in a destination location that is fundamentally linked to our artistic heritage and you create less and less opportunities for people to live here, yet they're coming here for those artistic history that we have, you need to somehow figure out how to subsidize the arts. So the thing that people are coming here for continues to exist.
Artists can't live here anymore, so there are artists that are 100% relying on those grants from places like the Arts Council. So it's all integrated, and it's all related. And the same goes for the road fund. Tourists on the road have impacts. We're raising money from TOT to address those impacts.
So I say all this comfortably around an a a revenue source that is growing, that is robust, and trying to make the point that these things are all related. This is not a handout. This is taking money that we are generating and reinvesting it so our community is robust, our county is robust, and we're dealing with the impacts of living in a tourist economy. So those two things for me are really important. And and, you know, this is I said, it's my first budget hearing.
Not quite sure how this all goes, but I'm I'm I'm really concerned about those those reductions. And we we went through the presentation, so you know what those reductions are gonna mean. But my point is that there's a long term cost to not making these investments, And that's why those two are at the top of my list. And so what I would propose for for clarity's sake is just going with 2024, 2025, and figuring out how we can continue to make the investments for the DSAs. And then for the road fund, you know, restoring, whether that's with contingencies, whether that's partially with cannabis, whatever we need to do to ensure that things like the road local road rehab program, the CHIP seal can continue so we don't pay more in the long run.
And then I think, you know, looking at as money comes in, I know it's not answering certain departments' questions today, but seeing where thank goodness you all had the foresight to do AA and to to bring that revenue and figure out where AA might address some of the other needs in the county, and I'll just leave it there. Thank you.
Supervisor Alejo.
Thank you very much. Before I just go into my comments of everything that we heard earlier, I did just wanna flag something for our CEO. It wasn't brought up by Department of Social Services, but it's my concern regarding the future of the Share Center. The city of Salinas had a a budget talk about whether they were gonna have funding to continue their share for the operations of the share center, and I I think Roxanne spoke that night. But I think that I just wanted to bring it to attention of the board because that center is is it was, for me, a shining example of cooperation, collaboration between the county and the city.
We we went into it together. We built it. We led that effort. We contribute to it, but the city manages the operations of it ever since we opened the share center. And it would be really a shame for for for for for our partner to pull out of such an important effort when that center really serves the majority Salinas residents, mostly children, mostly women. It is so vital as a safety net. And from that center, we're able to then use rapid rehousing to get people into permanent housing. So I want to flag that here because I think it's gonna take an effort from all of us. Four of supervisors represent Salinas. This was an important effort.
And and just talking about the future of the shares, I wanna make sure that that's on our target because if they pull out, then we're at risk because then it all falls on the county. And there are some funding streams that they manage, the ESG fund. They were using for their purposes. Maybe it might not cover the whole cost, but that's where maybe it should be relooked at to fund their share, a greater portion of their share. Anything you wanna say on that, CEO?
I was able to listen to the statements yesterday, and Roxanne and Roderick were both there as well. I think we it sounds like there's commitment on behalf of the city to do something and continue the partnership
Right.
But also acknowledging some of the challenges that they're having with the resources that are available that includes maybe not the flexibility that they would hope to have. So that is something that we'll continue to look at with Roxanne and Roderick as we continue the relationship with them. And I think one of the items that was discussed was their navigation center. And that primarily serves single adults and Chinatown. In Chinatown.
And the majority of the resources, the concern is that we do need that, as a resource as well because those individuals would not then qualify for ShareCenter. So we'll continue to watch that, and we do anticipate that they'll be approaching us with a request to to continue to partner, but also to look at what the funding's gonna look like.
Exactly. Yeah. Well, thank you, Roderick. Thank you, Roxanna. Thank you to our CEO. I just wanna make sure that we we we're aware of that, and hopefully, good discussions will continue with our partner. Just on these items for the chair, the note I've taken, obviously, the this is gonna I it's hard to say no. What's it's hard to say no, but I'm I'm trying to see where maybe we we could look at it and then add it up at the end and see what the total price tag is. And at least these are my my recommendations. I agree with the elections.
Not everything on here is a mandate. You know, outreach, advertising, communications, that's that's important, but I don't know if it's it's mandated by the state. But but that's only 52,000, but just overall 1.44, for an upcoming gubernatorial election, I think we have to, take that seriously and and put the research forward. The DA asked for five deputy DA positions. I'm open to at least supporting partial, at least three, the minimum.
The three, I think, that they really need. These are positions they already had. They they had some people leave the office, and they're just trying to recruit people to do the critical work in putting criminals and holding them accountable, putting them behind bars. HR is asking for the one thirty one for classification studies, legal services, and a and a survey, quantum survey. I'm good with the one thirty one. The assessor, I think, there was she had said that there was a position that she could fund herself. Yeah. So I'm open to that. Yeah. I'm I'm open to that.
Keeping that position open to her since she could fund it. The CRO, I think the minimum they needed was 67,000. I'm good with that, that minimum request. DEM, she she wanted to advance the MA two to an MA three of a cost of $15,000. I'm good with that. There's an MA two that she said at the worst at the minimum, keep it as a frozen unfunded position. I think it's a 187,000. And then this emergency operations plan, it seems like it's something that we should do of a 140,000. So I'm I'm good with that. Sheriff department, I'm gonna leave that as an open question.
I I I did hear the concerns from the compa and the DSA. I think we need to, just have a further discussion on the board because that's the biggest ask of all the departments. But I'm gonna jump to health department. I'm okay with the $2.53. I don't know if everything's needed there, but at least 200,000 of what they requested in to augment their budget to address some of those needs.
Public works, I'm good with the two rangers and the utility specialist out of the ask. Custodial, I'd like to keep that whole for and the five days a week was only here at this building and at the Schilling. That's where the most employees work. That's where the most activity and interaction for the public. I don't know if three days is gonna cut it when we have that much traffic coming through both these centers.
So I like to keep keep them holding. That was a price tag of 178. The security, I'm gonna hold off on that because if there's a way to address those and keep it keep cost down, I I wanna keep an open mind to that. IT seems like the big price tag there was for the ERP system, 2,500,000.0.
I don't know if
we need to make a decision now or we we look at this more later this year, but but I know our budget doesn't factor in. It only factors in, I think, 1,900,000.0 of measure a a funds. 1,900,000 according to the budget book. So it's a very minimal amount compared to what was projected. Right? I think originally projected it could generate 29. I think the the more accurate numbers from what's it? HFD. I think it's 25 or 26,000,000. Right?
But, anyways, I just wanna make sure that that we're using a minimal number for to try to reach a balanced budget. County council asked for three vacant positions to at least remain unfunded. The clerk's asked for a a position for 125 because of her staffing pressures. I'm open to that or good with that. And then the only last two, I would say, oh, development set asides, keeping them whole to this current fiscal year numbers for all the was it four, five DSAs?
And then the for the new ask that came to the the economic development committee, I'm excited about them. We need that. You know, looking at our our waterfronts and our fisheries, there's been, like, no thought and no focus on it. I think it would be helpful to places like Monterey, the Working Wharf, the wharf itself, Moss Landing. We need to put we need to bring some thought and a planning behind to how to how to revitalize our our waterfronts.
And if we could just contribute a small amount, I think it would go a long way showing that Monterey County is committed. Same with the reservoir as an ag tech incubator. Danny and the partners have put a lot of thought into this. So for both of those, I'd be open to at least putting a minimum amount of $50,000 each to help them get started. That's not nowhere near what they're asking for, but at least so they could say the county committed this amount even in this tough budget will help get those off those those efforts off the way that I think in the end would would help strengthen our regional economies.
Okay. Can I re can I repeat this? Because I have staff listening, and we're making a chart. So I just wanna make sure I got all of yours here. We had elections.
We had the DSAs. We had CRO. We had the DA for three positions, the HR class study for a 131,000, the assessor, the position that she can fund on her own budget, moving the DEM MA two to MA three, and then keeping the DEM MA two unfunded. The emergency operating system for 140,000, putting 200,000 to health. The two rangers in public works, janitorial at a 178,000
to Oh,
and utility specialists. Yes. Okay. And then keeping county council's positions unfunded, the clerk position at a 145,000,
and then And 25.
One twenty five. This is this is why I'm repeating it. And and then the economic development, the fisheries, and the ag tech incubator at 50,000 each.
Two departments I didn't comment on, I think, was the sheriff's and HCD. I didn't get I didn't get the handout from HCDs, but those are the only two I didn't comment on.
Yeah. HCD didn't happen.
Right. Okay.
Alright. Nobody's looking at me, so I'll jump in next. So the 1.4 for the elections department, I'm supportive of. I also had the DA's positions at the lower level because it offered us four or a one, right, in terms of what level they come in at. So I'd be supportive of three positions at the lower level in order to help balance them out this year. So that would be three fifths of 666,000. I did not like that number. So next year, we'll just round that up to 667 because as they say on TikTok, I don't claim that energy. We're gonna proceed. So looking at the HR request, I do support the HR request.
I think they did a great job of paring it down. The OA for the assessor recorder at roughly a 100 k that they believe they can cover with all the folks who wanna come fall in love here and make that official in this building. I'm good with that. The CRO's request, I'm good with the legally mandated number that we were told was $67,702. I'm gonna jump to health. I'm good with the animal services needs. I believe that was $2.50. As we stay, I think supervisor Lejo called it 200. So I think we can negotiate that number. Unfund the unfunded positions for county council I'm supportive of.
Now the number for so then I also had a number for the parks. So I have a question about how we proceed forward there. I wanna make sure that they remain balanced and how we find a way to do that. Last year, they came in with over a million and a half in profit. The positions they're asking for, their budget gets split in the middle of a summer, which is their making season when they make money.
We're gonna know in a few months what they're headed towards at the end of this year. I would be supportive of allowing them to keep those positions frozen, Again, supportive of the two rangers and the position we're talking about for the water maintenance. And I think that they can do it from within what they're gonna profit this year and next, but I get that there's a risk there. So I see you reaching for your microphone, so I'm gonna give you a second to respond to me, Debbie.
So I just wanna clarify. You wanna leave their positions unfunded and then let them come back with the revenue once they receive it and they have a better estimate, or do you wanna fund it now and may maybe they'll come back with their revenue estimates higher?
I mean, based on where where are revenue estimates now, Brian, for where you're hitting this year?
So Memorial Day, this year, I got clarification, came in about 10% higher than last Memorial Day. So if that's any indication of where we're headed for the rest of the summer, barring any natural disasters, fire, fish die off, you know, something that's gonna impact visitorship, you know, we're we're looking to either make at least what we did last year or hopefully more. So not going backwards.
K. So I'm supportive of the positions, Debbie. How you wanna classify that, I think we can see where the rest of the board lands. But I think they're gonna have the money within their department to cover it. And so finding a way to do that given I know they're no longer in an enterprise fund. I know that that matters. But based on what I'm looking at, I'd like to see that happen. Now going back to the DSAs, I would like to see the DSAs put back or replaced. I don't know how. I know, again, we're talking about big numbers here, then we're gonna have to do some cleaning up by the time this is done.
To the point raised about VAMP, I am supportive of pulling that money back into the general fund to the extent that we can identify those dollars to help offset some of these desires and just putting a freeze on inputs there, but not rolling those back into the individual department budgets. I think that that needs to come back to the general fund and be allocated out to these things that we are prioritizing from the dais. And so if that, say, comes in at 2.5, I think it can help offset that particular cost. The DSAs are one of those that I have in mind for those particular pieces. The other is the road fund, which is also a priority for me.
I've run on nothing but roads several times, and I can tell you last night, I visited with the cattlemen and got asked about 20 different roads and when is their turn and when is it our time. And as supervisor asked, you let me know when she went down to visit Bradley, those roads are rough. And when she let me know, she visited Jullar, and she hit an intersection. She said that road is rough, and I believe I have so many of those that just need the investment. And so I can't find I cannot position myself in a place that says that we're okay to take away road fund. I think our commitment, especially with measure a a, was not to backfill, but to build upon. And so that to me is a priority as well. And I wanna make sure that that gets funded. I'm supportive of the clerk's need for that 145.
125.
I'm sorry. 125 or 145, Al? 125. Look at that. I saved $20,000.
I am supportive of the reservoir project. I don't know what that number looks like and where it goes. I wanna see us find a number that can show that we are serious partners in that because I think it's important, as I've told the proponents, I'm to give up a small piece of my community allocations that we've identified in the past to show that it is something we believe in because I think it's part of where we're headed as a community, as a county for our number one driver. I don't have a position on the custodial. I feel like that's a really tough challenge for us given that number. I support our custodial staff, and I just we need to find a way to meet the expectations of the needs of this building. Right? I think there's a way to do that. I just haven't seen what I think. I mean, there were three options up there.
I'm not sure that any one of those were the ones for me. I think that there's a we I wanna spend more time looking at that particular piece. I'm not comfortable touching AA. I've heard that from a few folks. Again, based on what the commitment was to use those funds for, I still have that out there. I'm not comfortable with moving that forward. Looking down my list, I think I've got everything, And I'll go to one of my colleagues. Yeah.
Just for clarification, the DA did request to keep her positions unfunded. I just wanna confirm how many
supportive with that. I I would I would think she was talking about the five. If we're funding three, the other two, I'd be I feel comfortable leaving unfunded.
Okay. Thank you.
Burke, can you come forward and use the microphone, please? We're glad you're in the room. Sorry not to keep punching you because that was fun earlier. But while you're walking forward, we want to make sure that you're using the mic so all those folks online can hear you as well.
Thank you, Supervisor Lopez. I just wanted to make clear that she's asking that all the positions be frozen, so there's that you don't fund. That is the request. Just
How many are there total?
Well, there are nine deputy district attorney positions, so whichever ones you didn't So six. Fund, that would be six. There's two victim advocate and two legal secretary positions.
Understood. Alright. Who wants to go next? Supervisor Church.
K. I yeah. As I've stated before the major AA, I'm not comfortable using those funds. And I I realize, you know, our I think it's on June 17 we're coming back for the final approval on this budget. So I think we're probably gonna have some tweaking going on in between here.
I I would like us to to really kinda look at at the whole vehicle program from VAMP into what this the rest of this is just so we can have an idea of how much money is going into there and whether we can delay for a year and what impact that will be because it might be enough to to generate some funds that we we need here. But, again, I wanna understand the implications of that. Elections in CRO, we gotta have those.
I think that's been clear. So fine with that. As I, you know, go through this list here and I know I might I haven't really added everything up, but I'm probably over the the 4.3 that we have identified, but we'll see what we have support on. I we'll have to come back and work on these. For them, supportive of those moving the two to three and the management from two to three, the management analyst to two as well.
I think that was about 203,000. Supportive of freezing those DA positions, as just mentioned. And I know there's several options here. I think we're probably all throwing out something different, something like maybe two at the lower, one at the higher. I'm flexible on whatever we're coming to for an agreement on this.
For Dell department, I, you know, I I think we have an obligation to work with a partner in the city of Salinas for both the 25 k on the spay and neuter as well as those positions. I'm supportive on those. Human resources is one thirty one. Okay on that. The the security janitorial, that might be something, I think, it was supervisor Lopez was bringing up, and we need to kinda come back here and tweak a little bit more.
I mean, we we we have to have security. We have to have janitorial work. We can't do it every other day in the week or something like that. This such as it's there has to be a solution here on this. In terms of the items on public works facilities and parks, definitely support a priority one, which I think was 580.
Like like to see in terms of the on the sheriff's department, always looking for what we could put out on patrol. There was eight that was suggested positions for North County, four for the Coastal, four for South County. I'd be supportive of a if we were working in here of a a two in North County, one South County, one coastal. This sort of takes a portion of that. I am supportive of the three social services positions because they're only they're only half of the cost there.
The rest of it's half. So you get three positions for one eighty six, and I think that's a reasonable deal. I am supportive of the clerk's position. And for county council, if I could ask the county if it's you have a you have legal secretary requests in there?
Right now, we're unfunded for two legal secretaries and one attorney.
So I I would be supportive of one legal secretary. Anyway, if that's unless you really feel that the priority is the attorney. Which is a lot more.
We're well, we're not asking it to be funded. We're just asking for it not to be eliminated and kept vacant, unfunded.
Oh, be fine with that. And just wanna touch upon a couple of these other points that we've touched upon here. Supervisor Daniels and Lopez Loops as he's also known as, for those who know him well.
Net two. These
I'm really uncomfortable taking anything out of the road fund myself, but I'm willing to make that step this year one time only because we have major AA monies coming in, and there's you know, I think the more there'll be money to be able to utilize into that, that will probably be in in excess of that $33,000,000 to make up for some road work. And I'm just not sure how we can balance anything else this year with that $3,000,000 by taking it out. And so my call on that is all the 1.8 out of what we're using here right now and go one time this year only on that road fund because of the unusual circumstances of the major AA money coming in, and we haven't really allocated out a process on how we're gonna spend it. I do wanna also suggest that maybe the for the for the Axon cameras, which I think are important, the reservoir and the blue economy, that those be referred to the, for consideration under Major AA. They're all three of them are unincorporated, matters, and that would be my suggestion on perhaps how to perhaps how to handle the financing for those.
I didn't get that. Axon and which one?
Axon, Blue Economy, and the Reservoir Farms.
Fisheries and AgTech?
Yeah. Fisheries. Yeah. Blue Economy's Fisheries. Yes.
Told you we're gonna test you. Well done, Debbie.
So I I think that's it.
Okay. Supervisor Askey?
Y'all are wild.
So I guess I just reiterate, I I'm I'm very concerned that we're headed into this year with our strategic reserve half full. I'm concerned that in order to fund what's I can count to three on a lot of these items. In order to fund this, we're looking at depleting effectively the rest of our contingency reserve fund, depleting the rest of our cannabis account and moving significantly into depleting our contingency account for for the year. And as I mentioned already, there are quite a quite a few outstanding costs that are going to be coming at us over the course of this next year. And I'm unclear what our plan is to be able to provide funding for those expenses that we have an obligation to be able to fund.
And given the track record of disasters that have come at us over the past five years that I've been on this board, I don't know that we would be in a position to be able to respond in the ways that we have been to our community if we find ourselves with more than one of those disasters that hits us. So so I have some concerns that I just, again, need to be very clear about, and I think that we've done the right thing by our community and by our workforce by investing in salary and wage studies that we've done, but the reality of that is that our budget reflects the increased cost of wages and as we know, we're on a four year wage increase and we're staggering those wage increases over four years so that all of those hits don't hit us at once. We have more wage increase studies to do, but we haven't many employees who've been working for years under where their wages have been twenty, twenty five, 15% below fair market rate. As we continue to make sure that our employees are paid fairly, those increased wages will continue to affect our budget as we move forward.
We have another $30,000,000 so yes, we have some Measure AA money coming. Yes, we hope to have increased TOT revenue coming to the county. Yes, we've been incredibly lucky to have increased property taxes generating revenue to the county, but it will not be sufficient to meet and offset the additional expenses that we know will be affecting coming to the county for next budget year or the costs that we expect to start hitting us over the course of this year. So I I just, again, wanna be on record with the concerns that I have. This is what's presented is not a structurally balanced budget nor, if we, take on all of these additional costs, we're moving away farther away from getting to a place of structural balance.
So having said that, again, I think there's some legally required, services and, needs that we have to, provide for. Those have been addressed, by my colleagues in their comments in regards to, that be the elections, the civil rights office. I think the animal control is an obligation we've made, with health department with, sensitive Salinas. Some of the public works requirements sounded like obligations to me. I'm not sure we cannot provide custodial or basic security.
So those would, I would consider those to be obligations. The Clerk of the Board position is one of the most fundamental basic services that we have to provide in order to meet our legal obligations to all of the committees that are served. The ERP, whether we fund that now or whether we fund that later, we need to make sure that we have the resources available to do so. The district attorney positions, it sounds like there's support for three of those with some freezing of the others, freezing of the DEM positions I'm supportive of. And in regards to the measure AA, I think there is a larger conversation about how we how we structure that.
But even with the full even if that came in at $30,000,000,000, it's not gonna be enough to offset that increased cost of what we're facing. So we really do need to have a strategic conversation and it's gonna need to happen in partnership with all of our departments and with our workforce about how we use this year to to become better so that we get into alignment for next year because we won't have any of the one time funds that we're using this time to to bring us into alignment. But because of Measure AA, I will say I think we did make a commitment to continue to invest in the roads. I made that commitment to people. I don't have very many unincorporated roads in District 4, but I do have residents who benefit from county services and when the county is not investing in our roads on an ongoing basis, we then face deferred maintenance costs that ultimately take county resources away from other services and programs that my residents in the future will rely on.
So I think that is a commitment that we need to we need to honor moving forward. So how we get there, whether it's the full 25%, whether it's some some some in between amount, but I think there were commitments made in in in in the measure AA campaign, to continue at the higher than minimum obligation, from from county resources, separate from AA. So I think we need to honor that. How we get there? I think that remains a question.
One of the other questions that I would ask of county, our CAO team, you know, and I, who understand the details of where the budgets work a little bit more, I think, and what I would have I think maybe appreciated more, it didn't occur to me that we would have needed to provide the explicit direction to say, you know, that the that the that the CAO recommended budget needed to include all of the required mandated functions in it. Where do where as we move forward, think, with the conversation, where are we going to what are the path what is the path that's gonna allow us to be more strategic in our rightsizing of a workforce so that we don't find ourselves in sort of a sledgehammer scenario or backed into a corner where we don't have options available to us, where we're up against a wall, say in December if our, end of year, fund, balance doesn't come in at what we thought it was, and we do find that the JLRP is more than we anticipated and that the ERP is more expensive than what we thought and we no longer have a contingency because we've spent it all at the beginning of the year.
What what are our scenarios that we have available to us to start working on now so that we're maybe one step ahead and we have a few options in our back pocket. I don't wanna be sitting here come come January saying, gosh, we we should have made some different decisions when we had the opportunity to. So thank you.
You wanna answer that one, Debbie?
Yeah. I mean, I think that the decisions are gonna be to work with HR and have departments really look into their budgets on what they need and what they don't need and make the cuts, the appropriate cuts, to both services and positions, however that unfolds, and maybe get, you know, this exercise here, letting the departments know that this is a real situation that we're in, and we just really need everybody to kind of pitch in and do everything that they can. It'll also be, we're talking about continuing the hiring freeze for next year. So, hopefully, that'll leave more unfunded unfunded unfilled positions, open so that we can just, through attrition, get rid of them without actually affecting any bodies. And that's kind of the plan.
Hopefully, you know, hindsight will be twenty twenty, but that is the first steps that we're taking towards fixing that gap. And like I said before, hoping to save at least $10,000,000 out of the fund balance at the end of the year to roll that forward because you roll it forward one more year. Hopefully, you'll have some discretionary revenue increases the next year, know, pending any downturns. Yeah. Okay. I I I'd love more than
to have, like, let's hope. But a couple other points to to to make. I don't wanna forget. In regards to the oh my goodness. In regards to the the DSA, there was, I think, the the the reductions left, the business council with, I think, a $100,000, which, I think we've been working really hard to figure out how to get the business council back up to some amount that they can work with.
The return on investment, I think there is pretty phenomenal, and there's been general agreement about that. So not sure what the scenario is there that that makes that an option. And and then the other change that wasn't called out specifically, but I think there were had been some other some other contributions that had been discussed as part of the DSA previously, but that are now moved into a CAO contribution category. And I I don't I don't know that that's the right solution yet for how we handle those given, I don't want say like gifts of public funds, but I think we need process for how allocations are made broadly speaking and if we have grant funds or if there's a if there's some way that we're handling that, I just I wanted to be clear that we need we need some process on those. Are you referring to the
Hartnell Promise, the soccer complex, etcetera? Yes. Those items are being handled similar to other community projects that the board has committed to, including the Pajaro Sanitation District allocation. And this has been a process that's been used for many years. What we did is we took these four contributions that the board as a whole has agreed to fund year over year.
And rather than having a continued discussion related to those specific projects, we went ahead and and placed them where the other community projects were, which was more appropriate than having them compete for the TOT dollars along with all the other DSA entities. That also included an increase, for the senior center in Croondale. So those are all we appropriately allocated them into where the other community projects were rather than having them be a discussion year over year, and that does include the Casa de Noche Buena contribution as well.
Okay. I'm not sure Casa de Noche Buena is included in that, but we can we can review that. Think Sherman Hart Hartaus might be included in that.
Sorry about that. Sherman Hartaus, a 100,000. Yes.
Supervisor Daniels?
But but just to be clear, the there is an equivalent Costa de Noche Buena contribution in another part of the budget that was equivalent. Yes.
It's on social services. Just So I
didn't know if you wanted me to weigh in in terms of there's everyone seems to have gone through the list, and I'm so appreciative. First. So All that. Know.
Why would take another shot
at did.
I think what would be easiest for me is is more if you're looking for a third or wanna know where we are because it sounds like there is a lot of overlap in terms of elections, CRO, the DA positions, the clerk of the board, freezing positions that need to be frozen for the park rangers and for county council. So, I I I just think when you go through it and you you you take a poll of the group, I can I can weigh in at that point in time? I think that would be the easiest. But I did wanna ask two questions. One is, are we talking about the CIP later and the $4.78 fund?
Okay? So next. Don't have to bring anything up about that. And then in regards to the sheriff's department that no nobody's brought up, I'm curious again in your mind, because this would help satisfy a question. I know we haven't gone through what, AA is going to do, but is there a future where, unfunded deputy positions might qualify under public safety and measure a a if the board desires or this ad hoc committee desires?
Yes. And supervisor Church actually referenced that as a well, it was actually related to the Axon AA. And there was I think the request
was for
him to get and you and I to each get one extra deputy. I heard that's I locked that one up for later.
Yeah. I think there's added discussion that was being sought. Okay. So I just wanted to make
sure that door was at least open so we could have that conversation at a future date. And then in regards to, again, this idea of of of we need revenues. We need revenues. And so looking at ways whether you're building revenue opportunities through sustainability or you're actually building new economic opportunities in Monterey County, I I do wanna just make the point that I would support the the reservoir project and the fisheries project for that reason. And and then I don't know what that looks like today and whether or not that's something that's decided today or it's looked at through AA as as supervisor Church has suggested.
But I just wanna voice that, you know, I am going to be continuously looking as a supervisor throughout Monterey County. How do we generate revenue? How do we make this county sustainable and and and a place where our community can live and reside and thrive? And I think those projects are really looking in the right direction, and so I just wanted to express my support as well.
Alright. So what I wanna do at this point is check with you. Debbie, are you ready to go with that spreadsheet or do you need a few minutes?
So what do is do a roll call, and so I don't have the actual numbers for the sheriff deputies because they're kinda but some of these positions are kinda lumped, the sheriff deputies and social services ones. But I do have staff online that have a spreadsheet ready to go, and they're gonna be adding everything up for us as we go. But quick and dirty, you guys are at about $12,000,000 of spending on this list. Just go where you are. I also do wanna comment on the VAMP because, I've got quite a lot of comments on it since we've mentioned it.
The departments are very much, in favor of the VAMP program and really, really like it. And I wanna kinda like, I got a I have a spreadsheet I just received from public works. And just so everybody understands that if we were to cancel it and say that they couldn't use it, it's about $2,890,000 this year, but 1.7 of it's from the sheriff. So what you would be doing is taking 1.7 more million dollars of general fund from the sheriff and making their hole a little bigger. So that's the biggest piece of it right there. That's who's putting into it this year.
The current balance in that fund is 35,000,000. Right?
The current balance I just got this. That's what I've been told, and it's 35,000,000, but it belongs to each one of these departments. So you would have to pick the departments that you're gonna take it from. So you could either suspend it this year and say nobody can put into it, and we're gonna take all that general fund money back, which means they won't be able to fund their future cars, which is kind of what they're planning on. That's their long term plan. Right? Just fund their cars with it. Or go to each department and say, department x, we're taking back 2,000,000 from you and bringing it back to them in general fund. So I don't know. It would be very difficult to take from them, from their individual pots because you'd have to pick the pots that you're taking from.
And they've already put it in with their general fund in prior years.
Right. But I'm not talking about my at least my direction was just for any inputs in the coming year.
Right. So the input is 2.8 is what they're putting in, knowing that 1.7 of it is the sheriff. Almost the biggest portion of it would be the sheriff.
I just would like a little know, come back with a little more detail on the VAM program, but also those departments not in VAM. Because if we start pulling in a VAM right now, then the ones that aren't in VAM, there was probably gonna come more that won't be in part of VAMP because they're gonna say, let's keep our money safe and we'll just so I think if we do something, it has to be consistent across those that are in VAMP and those that are not. And I don't really have a picture quite on how this program works totally, but it seems to me that there's $35,000,000 is sitting in that account right now. And is there a the kind of things we need to know is this is there a is there a plan? Is there a cycle that this gets recycled on?
Or is this just sort slowly accumulating and and building up? These these are the kind of questions we need to answer to before seventeenth, I think.
Right. And I can have I can have Public Works, they run their program, come and do a little presentation on it. Is that okay? Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Alright. Okay.
One thing before we launch into this. I wanna check-in with the board. We're almost to 4PM. What is the preference? Are you ready to go to day two, or do you wanna roll through the night and get this done?
No. Just tonight. Done today.
Okay. Getting it done today. I've got four votes for that. Do you agree with that supervisor asking? So that is to let the clerk know we will need dinner. We're gonna break around 05:00 for dinner, and that'll be a half hour break, and then we'll keep going. So just so everybody who's out there waiting, wondering, am I gonna present today? The answer is yes. We're gonna get this done. So at this point, we'll, send it back to you, Debbie, to keep us going.
Okay. Hold on.
Alright. Sorry. Let me make sure I had my team online because they're gonna be adding everything up. K. So the first one, can we do roll call votes for all of these?
Sorry.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Do you have a screen share where you can show the list of what?
Provide so we can see it's really helpful to for me to be able to see what word
Not really because I wrote it on this piece of paper. Well Do you wanna take a picture of the piece of paper?
It's the tracking. I think the way that the team has done it before, Debbie, is that they'll share the Excel sheet that they're tallying on Mhmm. Online.
So So team that's listening, does one of you wanna share your screen? It'll probably either be Trent or Tricia.
Do you
have I have five different people doing it at the same time so that we come up to the right answer. That's the whole Yeah. So we don't wanna share them all at one time. Hold on. It's either Tricia Hassall or Raquel is saying maybe her. Or Raquel Escolia.
I'll share my screen.
And they redid the spreadsheet this year, so it's really fancy. So it might look a little different than prior year.
Hey. Can you see my screen?
Yeah. Oh, now we can.
Okay.
So do you wanna go department by department, Debbie?
What I'm gonna do is I'm just gonna go through the ones that the augmentations that they requested of right now. So I'll just start off with, like, number one will be, backfilling the reduction in the DSAs to last year's level. Does that work for you, Raquel?
So that will be
k. So I have the department augmentations here. The others, we kind of track separately. So I'll just write it in.
Okay. So it's the reduction of the DSAs for 08/1942 or thousand nine hundred and seventy five to bring them to last year's level.
What's the amount?
$8.42 $9.07 5. Okay. So can we do it on asked the
if it was ready.
Clarification a bit on the process. If we go through and we vote on these and we're over the amount, we're gonna have to we're gonna go back and We Okay.
Yeah.
Great.
Okay. So can we get a roll count count on that one?
Supervisor Lehoe? Supervisor Church?
This is on the DSAs?
Yes. Right. Okay. Bye.
I'm sorry, Debbie. I I can't see the supervisor. So if they can say, I.
So I can't see that they're
did they not say that?
They did. They did. I couldn't hear.
I just need to use the microphones and lean in.
Sorry.
Alejo, aye.
Church, aye.
Mobes, aye.
There you go. Supervisor Ruh ask you?
I'm gonna note on this.
And supervisor Daniels?
Aye.
Or we could just use Debbie's.
And then there's one on Church as
well. Yes.
Yeah. I I don't know if this is a good way to
do this.
Gonna function, I think. Copy your paper.
Debbie's. Debbie.
Did you guys wanna see a picture of
my Yeah.
If we could use yours, Debbie,
and and you could use the Elmo.
That's if you wanna just put it on the Elmo.
Elmo. You'll be able to see it. Isn't it called Elmo? An Elmo. Would I
like it?
The document reader? The doc
The document reader. It's it's an Elmo. Elmo.
That's that's what it's called. Gotta be able to talk.
In Fresno, it was called an Elmo. Okay?
Alright.
Okay. Yeah. It's a second
from the on.
Yeah. Debbie knows what I'm talking about.
These Fresno people and their Elmos.
It's for something, but it was Elmo. It will it adjust on its own?
Oh, there it is. I don't think that's gonna work.
Okay. Let me do one better.
I don't know that we need roll calls. Can we can I run through these and see if you can keep up with me? Debbie, was that would that work?
My staff can.
Sure. I got you. And I'll I'll let you know what your numbers are. So let's go back to the reduction of DSAs. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Anybody opposed? One nay. So that was a four one. Would supervisor ask you on the nay? Reduction in the roads fund. All those in favor of replacing that reduction in roads funding, say aye. Aye. That's three of us. Anybody opposed?
I Opposed.
So I've got two. Go ahead. That's Church and Alejo. Microphone on if you're gonna make comments, supervisor.
I don't know what reduction in road fund means.
So it was there was a reduction in the road fund in order to help balance the budget, and this would restore it back to where it was rather than rely on those funds?
I'm for keeping the proposed budget.
Okay. So you you got it right. So that was a three two in that direction.
That's a no.
That's a there's a no from Alejo and Church. Yeses from Askew, Lopez, and Daniels. K. So now we're gonna go to the elections 1.4. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Anybody opposed? That is a five o. Now we're gonna go to the CRO, 67,000, for those legally mandated services. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Anybody opposed? The motion carries, five o. DA three. Can you explain that to me? That is three positions for the DA at the lowest level.
Three a yeah. That was the the recommendation. Three a at three at the lowest level, which was I just took this your favorite number, divided it by five, and multiplied it by three, came up at about 400,000.
Alright. So is there some negotiating folks wanna do there? I see supervisor Daniels and then Church.
Did it include freezing other positions?
Right now, no. We can come back to that. So this is just those three positions at the lowest level. You had talked about a two one. Are you okay with three at the
I'm okay with three. Okay.
Then with that, all those in favor signify by saying aye.
Aye. Aye.
Anybody opposed? Motion carries five o, and I'm loving all the photo takers in the back corner taking shots. It felt like a concert over here for a second. Everybody put your phones down. Live in the moment. Alright. We're gonna keep rolling. We're gonna do the stay on the DA question, and we're gonna ask the question about the unfunded positions being frozen. All those in favor of maintaining those positions frozen or unfunded, both terms we've used in the past?
Six positions.
Those an alternative six. Correct. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Anybody opposed? That carries. So you've got four five o on that. Alright. Proceeding the HR class study, etcetera. That was their three requests for a total of a 131,000. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposition? Hearing none, that is a five o vote for you. Alright. Moving forward, the assessors o a position, which was funded by Love. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Anybody opposed? Love wins.
Proceeding forward. The Dem MA two to MA three for 203,000. Wait. There was multiple things. There was a $15,000 increase to take a two to a three, and then there was also a request for a for a three?
A new
two. A new two. So let's start with the request to promote a position from a two to a three. If you're supportive of moving the two to a three for a total of about 15,000, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposition? None. You've got five o on that one. On adding the new position for a 180,000 87? Yeah. Those in favor, signify by saying aye.
Aye.
All those opposed, aye.
I think
But it's a proposal.
I think she wanted But
for now, we're not funding it.
I think she wanted a frozen, unfunded on that.
Yeah. It was Could you
get clarification on what the request was for that
Freeze.
It was a freeze?
It was a freeze.
It's a freeze?
Okay. Alright.
The request was to fill it, but freezing would be acceptable.
Yeah. Okay. Freeze. Alright. So the request now is a freeze. So I, as supervisor Church, always called by miss Scanlon, will call for the vote. All those in favor of freezing the position, aye. Aye. Anybody opposed? Carries. Okay. Moving forward, we're gonna look at the emergency operation system for a 140,000. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
Aye.
All those opposed? Nay? You got three and a supervisor ask you? Was the emergency op system for one forty.
Yeah.
Correct. Yeah. So four one on that with Alejo on the eye. Health needs assessment, 200 to two fifty. We've talked about different well, it's not it says health needs, but we're talking about the investments for the health department. There was a proposal from Supervisor Alejo at two hundred. There was support at 02:50. So I'll see if
Does that include the the spay and neuter?
Correct. Okay. So the total was actually $2.57 if I remember that number correctly.
$2.53.
$2.53. $2.53. 252. Sold. Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay. Sorry. One more. I staff was asking me.
Which one do you need clarification on?
I missed that last one. The
emergency operation system was the last one, and that was a no on a 41.
41. Okay. And Correct. What do we do on health?
Health, we're not we haven't decided yet. We've discussed knowing that it's a range of 200 to $2.50, and that does include the animal services request. So 250, I'll see if we have enough support. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposition? Sounds like I got a five o on that unless somebody corrects me. Okay. Proceeding forward. We've got the two rangers and utilities specialist, And there's no number there, but we were talking about a couple different ways to fund that. So is what's the request of the board? I see supervisor Daniels with the hand up.
There was a possibility of just delaying to see if there was income that was generated that could fund it.
Right.
So we're we would we would freeze the positions at this point.
Correct. And I think at this point, there's a request. Brian, can you clarify for me? There's two rangers, the specialist, and then what are the other it was grounds
senior secretary?
So there is the of the four on the priority list today, two rangers, the senior water special water utility specialist The secretary. Senior secretary. From our original ask of the seven park positions, there was also a building to the ground supervisor, a park services aide, and a and the park planning manager.
Okay.
So I would request that we freeze those positions.
All seven or the four?
Of the well, I would like to get those three funded. Yeah.
So we're talking about allowing you to use your profits from this year to fund positions. Right? But in the meantime, leaving the positions in your budget unfunded for you to be able to allocate into them with your profits.
That would be one way to fund it. That would be. If that's if that's what needs to happen, then that's what needs to happen. Yeah.
About, portion on the portion of it.
Yeah. The the three positions, the two park rangers and the utilities and water specialists would be $461,000, more or less.
And that's without the secretary, though?
Yes. And the secretary. I I expressed a word for all all of those and and priority one myself.
Including the secretary? Yes. Okay. So first, let's try this. If you're in favor of all four positions just being funded, again, not from the savings, just funding them. For four all four of those positions, signify by saying aye.
Aye.
Alright. So we've got all those in opposed? Nay. Nay. Now if you're in favor of funding three of those on a with the two rangers and the one water specialist, signify by saying I.
I. Nays? Okay. I'm missing votes there because I've got two yeses and three silence.
I was waiting for a one ranger
Okay.
One one water specialist.
Okay. Then Position?
I'm still not clear on what the requirement for this water specialist is. Is it required? Is it not required? Are we doing it? Like, I I don't have enough information to answer this question.
So it's required. The question how we do it, it's been sort of a shared pain in terms of having Nate do the on the ground work with the specialist. In the past, we tried to hire somebody, but there was recognition that there's only three people with this level of operation skill in the state. So we're likely not gonna hire the person only just to work for us at any reasonable cost. So what I'm hearing is to keep this system in operation and maintenance, we need to keep the contract, and we need to keep Nate because those two together are what's getting us through that. Is that correct, Brian?
You weren't listening. I was. Alright. Father of three, I can do multitask.
So that's where we are. So now I'm gonna drop back to the our third vote here and see one ranger and one specialist. All those in favor signify by saying
that.
You voted three people for the three There
were only two. There were only two on that.
And who were the two?
It was Alejo and I on the
Oh, I said yes.
Did you say yes on that? Okay.
That's three.
And we had three. I had checked over. Didn't hear the yes. Okay. So you have three votes for yes on two rangers and a specialist.
And you're freezing the balance.
What's that? You're doing I'm freezing the balance.
There you go. Right.
So let's take a vote on that.
So to be sure, one more time, with the two rangers and the specialist freezing the balance, all those in favor signify by saying aye.
Aye.
All those opposed? Two. Same. Three two. Okay.
Okay.
Alright. So with that, Ryan, you can sit down. Okay. Alright. I'm gonna give Debbie a second here.
We are on janitorial.
You have 178 under janitorial. Can you explain to me what the 178 is?
That was supervisor Alejo's number when he
That's the balance.
It was 178.
Yeah. It's the remaining balance of the custodial contract.
Keep services five days a week here at the government center and at the Schilling Place.
Balance was on 78. Can you confirm that, director Ishi? Alright. 178250.
Thank you, chair, and thank you, supervisor Lehoe. Yes. If we keep the recommendation of the 534 ish thousand dollars and we get an additional 178,000 today, that would make the janitorial services whole.
Alright. Supervisor Church, question?
Yeah. What about security? I don't see it on here.
That separate security is a million.
Where where is it It's on not on here.
Priority four. Nobody mentioned No.
But on the on the list?
It wasn't called out. I
I called it out.
Did you?
You meant. Yeah.
But I guess there wasn't three.
But you wanted it revisited.
Okay. Alright. So at this point, janitorial 178. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
Aye.
You've got four. Supervisor Daniels in or out? Alright. We got a five o on that one, reluctantly. Alright. So
was gonna, you know, make a show of it if I had to clean restrooms in order to use them and stuff. Not a fan of the strategy, but here we are.
Alright. County council's unfunded positions. All those in favor freezing them. All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
Aye. Aye.
Anybody opposed? Alright. That carries. We're gonna go to the clerk's position for 01/25 after clarification. All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
Aye.
Anybody opposed? You got five o on that one, Debbie. Economic development for fisheries at 50,000 as proposed. All those in support signify by saying aye.
And and can we designate this? This this could well, okay, come from measure a? Glenn?
I mean, I that's the whole that's one thing we don't have on here too is I wanted to pull a a buns out of this because we haven't even set up a process. But I did suggest that the that this be the whole the whole AA, the fisheries, and the and the reservoir go to AA for consideration is what I suggested. Now I I think did you propose the 50,000?
You said as a minimal number to that I think would be significant to contribute to START.
I mean, I'll it's a 100,000. I'd I'd go for that as but I still wanna bust bring up a vote.
That's the AA backfill.
That's the AA backfill. Okay. Thank you. I'll I'll support that as as just trying to get on some space here on something. So I'll I'll get with that. I'll support on that from AA.
Okay. So the question thousand. As is before, the board is using AA to fund 50,000 for the fisheries project that was mentioned. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
Aye. Aye.
Aye. Carrie? Aye. Now let's go to Reservoir Ag Tech with the
same that you were you an a?
It was an a.
I want an a.
I said a. Getting tired here. Alright. And we're gonna go to Reservoir Ag Tech 50. Same A. Proposal. All those in favor signify by saying a. A. Anybody opposed? Alright. That carries. Vamp. We just have a line there. What's the question?
Myself to tell you guys about the VAMP program as I was getting emails. And then this backfill is the backfill of taking other monies and moving and backfilling the AA monies that we used.
Right. I see the face. Comments? Worried?
We've heard my comment.
Yeah.
I don't to keep repeating my comments. I I I I absolutely think we need to have we need to be more intentional about how we're spending these dollars. And also, I don't know where else we're gonna find I'm not I'm hearing us spend money, and I'm not hearing us identify where to where to find money. And I think we've just spent more than what we have available to So, in the absence of anyone wanting to talk about where we're gonna find the money,
I'm proposing VAMP.
I I just and I I'd love to talk about and I just did I just pulled up a a VAMP, in the budget book, and I'm not seeing where it shows the balance nor am I seeing where the the sheriff's office is putting money into VAMP. So I'm still I have more questions than I have answers at this point on VAMP. So maybe we could get more information back. And to that question, I mean, if there are other places where we should be looking at funding that's available or if we all wanna come back, if we wanna direct our CAO to come back and bring us some options that we should be looking at in the immediate future before we do the final adoption, I would love to give that direction so that we have something to to be looking at. But I could propose my own. I have a list, but I don't know that I'll have any support for it.
So It was already requested that the department return and provide an update related to VAMP, so that is already being planned by public works and planning, public works facilities. Sorry. Like, personal flashback. It's public works facilities and parks. They're gonna provide that update. And right now, I think it's just trying to develop where there's consensus and then having that discussion as to potential budgeting options that we would have to bring forward to the board in advance of adoption. So or as part of adoption. That's gonna be part of that discussion that'll have to happen.
And kinda keep in mind too, so that number before we get to it, and that's just a rough number, doesn't have everything in it at the at the moment, But that's 6.7. And your contingencies were 8.7. So you're getting close. You do have 1.2 over in cannabis, too.
I'm sorry. Did get distracted. The one million 1.8, was that just a note you were making that we were having a conversation about whether or not we're we're aligned with with our commitment to voters regarding measure AA?
So it was in order to recreate the balanced budget that was proposed to us this morning, 1.8 was pulled out of AA to that tune eight two three nine nine three.
Oh, got it.
And so the question was, do we wanna find a way to put that back and not touch AA for now and let that go through process, or are we comfortable using it at this point without
having a problem? It's a conservative number for what I believe will be coming down the pipeline, so I I am comfortable with the utilization of the 1.8.
Okay.
I've got two comfortable with the there's three. And two of us not comfortable, so that's a three two, Debbie. Alright. Okay. Then now we've got the rest of DA unfunded. We already addressed that.
Correct? I'm I'll I'll take it back. I'll find somewhere else to put it if you guys can come up with an alternative source of savings.
I'd to see that
as option one for Vamp. I mean, that's the reason I brought it up, so I would love to see that as a trade out if possible.
That's what I'm hoping we come back in the next couple weeks. We'll be discussing it as a see if there something could be traded off.
Yeah. Makes sense. Alright. Then we're the question before us is the rest of the DA unfunded, but we already touched that. Are you comfortable with where we ended up on that, Debbie and Burke?
I'm sorry?
The DA unfunded positions is the next line on your chart.
Said that
we already addressed all nine of those positions. So we're good? Yeah. Alright.
Public works was addressed also, that $5.80. We already took care
of that.
Yeah.
That was just a different alternative one.
Correct.
Okay. And then
Alright. So sheriff's positions.
County, one to Coastal, and one to South County.
How creative. I'm sure it does. I would say one one one with the rest frozen at this point of of deputies for enforcement. Right? Being for us, I think that that's a priority that we're hearing that there's folks for, and we heard there's a potential for retirements. And so making sure that they have the ability to flex into deputies at an entry level for enforcement, I think, would be important to me. CAO?
Just to clarify, we're referring to the eight that were proposed. So you're gonna freeze five and move forward on three?
Correct.
We're freezing them?
There were eight for corrections, one for eight for patrol. So I think we're looking at the eight for patrol.
Addressing the eight for patrol.
Any appetite for four out of the eight? Cutting it in half?
Where would you put the other one? I think I was trying to make it fair here. You wanna put them in King City, I'm comfortable with them.
Yeah. So
then I just wanna follow this up with the one one one. I will say that I really do think, as you guys sit on that committee for Measure AA, looking to see how you can you can, you know, utilize the message we gave to voters about public safety and measure AA and and try to fill those deputy positions. Thank you.
Alright. So supervisor Askey.
I'm comfortable freezing the positions so that they're there, as we engage in our conversations.
I'm I'm comfortable with three, reason five, and then the axon, from AA.
Okay. So let's start with let's start with the positions. The proposal I've heard that I think has support from four members is three funded and five frozen. Everybody in favor of that signify by saying
aye. Aye.
Anybody opposed? Sure. So we got a four one with supervisor ask you on the one. And now let's go to the question of Axon cameras. Supervisor Alejo has a proposal to fund that out of
It was. What was you? I suggest go to review by AA.
Okay. So sending it to AA is the proposal. So all those in favor of referring that to AA signify by saying aye? Aye. Anybody opposed? Alright. Then that moves forward with five votes to send that to AA for consideration. Now I've got three social services positions, but I don't see a number. I see 9,100,000, and I don't believe that's my
services positions, somebody said at the very end. I think it might have been
About 86? If I could, supervisor, Lopez, the total amount for the three unfunded positions, we would require $186,456 of general fund contribution.
Roughly $1.87. Okay. Support for those three positions. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
Aye.
Opposed? It carries. Alright. Now we are at Axon, which has been referred to AA, and that leaves us with ERP at 2.5.
Jeremy, may I ask a question about that? Just for clarification, it sounded like when we were asking questions that this amount that the amount that was needed was labor costs, not for the actual program. Is that accurate? And could that change as we discover what is truly needed down the road?
We're gonna have Eric step come up so you can address it, and he has that estimate.
So there's approximately half that amount is for internal labor and and cert system integrator costs, and the other half is tied to the licensing because we had to extend the program. So we're actually paying for both Oracle licensing and for our c g excuse me, our CGI component that we run today. So that that's a committed to amount. The labor costs accelerated because of the fact that we extended for a year, and we've also have increased costs coming from some of the groups above what we had expected. And so that's our current plan, but our current run rate is not showing the same thing at the moment.
So we could come in a little bit lower. It's just we're kind of in a okay. The space we're in right now is and the amount of time being allocated to the to this is changing as we go through the program implementation.
When do we need that funding for this? Was is it immediate?
We no. We run we'll run out of funding from because the dish the original dollar level I just left it on my desk. I think it was just over $20,000,000, and the we run out of that funding in January 2026.
K. K.
So at this point, is there anybody who wants to propose, identifying that funding today?
Okay. Would recommend we revisit.
Yeah. Okay. That's a recommendation. Thank you, Eric. Yeah.
If I could return just to one thing. I'm I'm uncomfortable about the the security decision, and I'm just curious if, I don't know what the flexibility is, but leaving it, we left it at no. Can we leave it at refer it to to measure AA or I mean, not measure it. I mean, is it is it is it safety? Is it security? Is there some way? Oh, no. It's in the county building. So okay. The reason I say this is it's just, I don't feel comfortable just leaving it. These are the individuals that keep us safe here in the board meeting. They're the individuals that are in the front of this building and other buildings, and so I'm looking for some other options versus where we left it.
So the, public works team is actually working on some improvements in this building. So there is that is happening as well during the course. My hope is that it'll be done within this calendar year. But I think something that would be helpful is to have Randy and his team come up with other options that we could consider because the multiple options that were provided, I think, were not ones that we were agreeable with. So maybe having them come back to see what that configuration could potentially look like.
And if I can just get clear I'm assuming that this needs to be funded July 1. Is that correct?
We already set aside dollars. So it's about we already provided 500 and change. It's the $1.78 that's not covered. Oh, that's custodial. I'm sorry. Security is not. Apologize.
Alright. So I I think that was part of the issue in how this the spread was made on the presentation. Right? They were blended numbers with options, and that's why I said it was kinda hard to differentiate between the two. Randy, do you have a
Yeah. The custodial and security were blended together versus keeping them clearly apart so you can understand the difference on the security.
Absolutely. Excellent questions. Thank you very much. On the line with me is Jessica Cortiro Martinez, finance manager three for the department. And what we'd like to do is we'd like to share screen to show specifically the the menu of options for the security.
As we had mentioned before, we were trying to be good stewards with county's funds and show how we could try to accomplish both security and janitorial with a very limited set of funds. But we do have a range just for security itself. So as soon as we're able to bring up our matrix, we'll be able to show that. And again, terms of brackets, if there were no funding for next year's services, then there will not be a security guard either manning the security station or any type of future security system like a metal detector or or such. And the other side of the spectrum is the approximate million dollars and some change that you saw in the presentation, which is status quo services.
And so over here, up on your screen, Ms. Cordier Martinez has brought up our custodial and security ranges. And Ms. Cordillera Martinez, may I turn to you to be able to give a high level overview of the midrange options for just security in terms of type of security provided and the associated funding asked to do that?
Sure. So good afternoon, chair Lopez and board of supervisors. So I actually shifted to a different tab here to just show the security options. So right now, our current level of services, we're just gonna focus on really the three. We have multiple buildings that we take care of, but these are the three that would really have an impact.
So it's our Laurel Regard, this building I'm in here, 1441 Schilling, and then they're at the government center, the Alisal. This is what we have right now at Laurel Yard. We've got weekends and twenty four hours on or weeknights and twenty four hours on weekends. We've got seven days a week here at the Schilling. And then at LSL, we actually have a pretty robust crew where we have four security guards Monday through Friday.
We've got a site supervisor as well, and then twenty four hours on the weekends, and there's weeknight coverage. So there's always somebody in the building. And that currently costs $1,100,000. So we've got multiple options here, and there's many other options that we, you know, we we can play with. So if you guys are looking at this and and you wanna know what it would cost for a different, a different combination, we can do that.
But this option one here shows, like, weeknights in twenty four hours, which would cost this $534,000. We've got option two where we've got the Laurel Yard having weeknights and twenty four hours on weekends. The stilling, you know, having Monday through Friday, just swing shifts, but this is just one guard. And then weekends, twenty four hours, weeknights, and and the weekend for $2.85. And then the government center having weeknights, twenty four hours on a weekend, and Monday through Friday coverage, but just one one one security guard.
So that would cost us 748,000. I wanna kinda get the pulse of the board. Maybe, supervisor Lopez, you can tell me. Do you want me to go through all of these different options? Do you is there a preference? Maybe you guys tell me what you're
looking Daniels would like to give some input. Supervisor Daniels.
Okay. Thank you. I so, you know, what I don't wanna see is a reduction in security. And so I just I find myself really frustrated that that this is where we are. I understand why we're here, but this was this is this is a cost in like custodial that isn't isn't it it's necessary.
Right? It's not it's not like, you know, one where where you can choose to reduce it, and so we're in a really awkward position. So I don't see how you reduce security at all. I feel like we need to fund this, and and so that's that's where I am. Where that's coming from now, I'm not sure, but I just again, my position is like the custodial services. You don't go without security and custodial services.
Supervisor Church.
Yeah. I generally agree with supervisor Daniels on this. I as I'm looking at this, I I'm trying to understand the Laurel Yard or the current level of service and option two, which I think are the same things, but one of them showing 14,000 more. It looks like it has the same the same hours. And so as I look at this, I I start to think, you know, maybe we need to maybe we need to come back and review this a little bit because it's I haven't I I can't look up all these options and see if it can be tweaked.
We haven't looked at other funding options. I just sort sort of feel this is a little bit like the vamp is that it's now is not the time for us to make a decision quite this complicated. But I do we is there could well, I'm at it right here. Could is there a difference between the current level of service and option two here? And Yeah. Why is there a difference in price?
Yeah. So supervisor Church, it's because of the number of guards on. So here at our current level of service at the government
I'm looking at lower yard. It says one security guard for both. Same hours, weekdays, twenty four hours.
Yeah. That's because after this point, we're talking about the new year. So this is our current level. This is full.
Thank you.
And it's just because the rate is going up from $27 an hour to $29.60.
Got it.
Thank you
for clarifying.
There there are minimum increases. It's not a lot, but there there's, you know, your typical increases for cost of living that we're experiencing. But for the most part, the cost stayed pretty consistent.
I I would just like to propose that we bring this back at a other than today to make this decision.
Right. I'm not hearing any other requests. One thing I would like to see, at least looking at the current level of service, is maybe just a reduction that I I I see, like, a full drawdown in the options we saw so far, and I don't want us to have to go through all of them. Don't don't do it.
I don't wanna go that way. Sorry.
To the top. So when it comes back when it comes back, what I would like to see is at least an option for one at Laurel Yard, one at Schilling, two at Security Guard Monday through Friday. I'm fine with the site supervisor and one Security Guard in the twenty four hours. Right? So that's an option I would at least like to have a number on for us to consider. So I'm just gonna throw that out there for today, but respect the fact that I also agree this can be brought back to be considered before July 1. Any other thoughts at this point?
No. No. I agree with that. I do want a little refresher so that we're not just doing at the of the day to
get through it. Right.
I think it requires a little bit more thought and more looking at these options more closely because I think we haven't had this discussion just on security itself in a very long time. So it's it's merited at this time.
Okay. All those in favor of bringing back additional options, signify by saying aye.
Aye.
Anybody opposed? That carries. Thank you. Alright. Anything else you need direction on, Debbie?
No. So I just wanna let you know where you are. So I need to back out the AA dollars, which I'm not a 100% sure what they were, but the total of what you just this whole list was almost 8,700,000.0, which is exactly your contingencies amount. So it would leave a zero contingencies. So for the year, which including the jail medical.
So I can use four that was left over from that reserve that would wipe that out, and then 1.2 from cannabis, which leaves 5.2 in there. So that's just wanna let you know where you are. Plus backing out the little bit that we put for AA dollars will be in there as well. So when the adopted comes back, we'll use those funding sources, and then hopefully leave a little bit in contingencies and wipe out the the rest of them.
Supervisor Askey?
Did did that I'm sorry. You took it down. But did that list include the TOT, Road Fund?
Yes. It did. It included backfilling the TOT Road Fund and, backfilling the DSAs to last year's amounts.
And what was the total that it came to?
8 $8.07.
8 yeah. 8.7. It's, I don't know, it's $8.06 $9.03 $1.02 7 is the rough amount that I'm getting for right now.
Okay. And just a question for
for the for the crew.
I know there's a couple of
things we're gonna talk about a little bit more. We're gonna review the VAMP and see if there's options on any of those points, but, are are we really comfortable spending the entirety of our contingency going into this year?
I missed the last part. What is the numbers that
I mean, at So this would spend down $8,700,000. That would be spending down basically all of our contingency going into this budget.
Our our contingency was 13,000,000 from before?
Contingency was 8.7. And this is 8.693 on there.
So where's the the 4.3 that we add to? You know, there was some cannabis that was in here. There was some
Right. So that's still there. So I can move the use the 43, move that over, use the 4.3 and the 1.2, and take it off at this number. Yes. But remember, you're gonna have jail medical coming as well that's gonna need
So within if we if we take that off this number, then can Mhmm. Get updated on what the contingency actually is?
It'd be 5.2.
5.2 contingency.
So And these aren't exactly they're running these numbers real rough right now. So
Oh, so so
that would be if and and, again, I'm I'm I'm really uncomfortable doing this. But that's the difference at 3.2 is pretty close to the road fund. And I know it was a three two vote. I'm pretty big advocate of roads. But just to give us a little more flexibility, I'm just throwing it back out there, possible consideration. And I'm again, I'm only doing this because we have the the major a funds coming in, which I know a chunk will be done for Rhodes because I'm I I am uncomfortable, supervisor Ascru, to say, to be down this low right right off the bat. CEO Della Rosa.
Yes. If I could have a I mean, we're gonna come back and have a discussion about VAMP. There's other things I think we need to discuss. Maybe have cooler heads and come back in early June. In terms of timing, Debbie, how much time do we need to finalize and and have a a budget that would be I'm just thinking in terms of timing. We're not, like, on a timed ten day we started budget hearings. We must have it done within ten days. Is that
I don't know that answer. I do know I'm hoping somebody's gonna chime in on my screen right now. But I do know that it has it needs to be done, obviously, by July 1. And then I didn't do this last year. Is there another book that comes with it? Or is this No. It's just the auditor's book that goes to the state by December 4.
Yes. Okay.
Yes. So there isn't another book, but I I think what if you're I think we would like to take a look at what the numbers are gonna look like, have more than just this discussion today to actually put it down in written form and then identify what resources were used to cover what.
So we need to have sorry. I have, we need to have a board report by June 9 in order to get it adopted by the seventeenth. So it has to be done by June 9. Mhmm. So the report has to be done unless we move the whole budget adoption process. And I don't know.
I think that might give us enough time at least to identify what resources would be used. And if we needed to tap into AA, that way we can have the discussion with the board of what that looks like. And that way you have some comfort as to what dollars would be used and whether or not that 3.1, was gonna be, you know, a challenge. I and then also having back what the security configuration would look like. So if we could plan for, early January when the discussion comes forward on security as well.
And if you want, real quick, I can share my screen and show you who you'd be taking from from VAMP, which departments? So I got the
Early January on security? I'm
sorry. Okay.
I was
I I know. I need I need to get you
that. I get you.
But yes. I need protein. I meant
June.
Alright. Alright. Just need that clarification. Sorry.
So let me let me bring this up, and I'll show you from Vamp. So I think if I share the screen, you'll see a little bit more of what I'm talking about about Vamp and exactly who you'll be pulling money from, and you're basically just gonna take their general fund back from them. So that'll come up right there. Okay. So this is a list that I was sent.
So these are the this is the amount that are in people's budgets right now for VAMP. So as you can see, each one of these departments put in money into this this fund, and then that's how they plan for their future. So this is part of their their plan for their department to keep their funding. So this is what would be stopped this year, and you can see each one. So you'd be pulling back, you know, 16,000 from the assessor, 222,000 for ag, and then all the way, like I said, the big ticket one knows you'd be pulling back $1,700,000 from the sheriff.
And I do know that they have cars on order right now that they're spending out of their pot. So as we talk about Vamp and we'll get a bigger picture of this from public works facilities and parks when they come back, but I just wanted to put this out there as this is and on the right is the balance that's still needed to collect to keep them, like, whole. I believe that number is what they need to make their fleet whole.
Alright.
Supervisor Daniels.
And if I could just ask, so when you do come back, getting very clear of all of the pots of money that would that are not being tapped into in terms of how you choose to do this. So if it all comes from the 8.7, just being really clear about the three that exists or the cannabis that still exists. And then it would be also helpful because I know we have some good stewards that are in departments that have their own sort of rainy day funds, if I understand it correctly. Like, not to put director Ishi on the spot, but public works is good about having a public works reserve and others. So just to maybe bring the comfort level sort of more in line with that we we we are preparing for a rainy day, and and and we do some of that within the departments as well, if that's accurate.
I could be inaccurate. But just so people can be aware of, of of those pots of money, not that we're tapping into them, but what they are and where they exist. Yeah. That's all. I'll leave it there.
Alright. At this point, I wanna try to get through, the next presentation, which I believe because I'm looking at this agenda, but it's not broken out. Are we going at this point to talk about the CIC funding? Alright. So I wanna get through that before I lead the CAO.
And we got departments not pre not presented. I
think we're we're through that because they weren't presented, and I can't sorry. You heard me.
So Well,
usually, in our pastors, our budget team usually goes through them in case there is anything anybody wants to raise.
I'll give him one more shot at this one. But
Ezekiel did that, and Dwayne Woods, you see that? Just go through it in case there was anything. Usually, there wasn't, but we went through it on the agenda. Okay. Even though they weren't presenting, we went through it as an item in case any supervisors had any they wanted to discuss on those.
So do you Debbie, you wanna run us through the other items or CAO that were left on the unpresented to see if there's any supervisors who wish to pull up items on those?
These were the items that were listed as departments that did not present, but they are part of the agenda today. And the ones that are referenced here, of course, in terms of I'm just gonna go through the the numbers. Item 17 is board of supervisors and whether or not there was any comments on those, the general and then districts one through five. That's on page one seventy three. Any comments there?
K. 18.
Number 18 is the county administrative office. It starts at page one eighty nine, and it starts at budget ten five zero zero one and goes through ten five zero two eight, the Workforce Development Board. Any comments?
This is for the the CEO's office. Mhmm. This includes
public information department there? The communications.
Yes. Communications. I mean, I'm only thing I would bring up out of out of there is is having having been through a couple of times with a couple of disasters over my district over the last couple of years. I've just really seen the importance of having the the office to keep information straight. And I know the budget's been trimmed a little bit on that, and I would be I'm just gonna say I would be support I mean, it's a very small amount. I'd be supportive of adding about 25,000 back into the PIO's budget, because I think communication of what we do for the public is just one of the most important things.
Madam CEO, I I agree. I think, Nick Pascual and his team have done a really remarkable job in a lot of different ways, not just disasters, but many other things that we do in the county. So I agree that I wanna commend him for his leadership because there's things that we got done that had he not been on it, it would've taken days or weeks, and he got done with a matter of day or two. The other thing the other office under the CEOs that I wanted to acknowledge was Roxanne and her team. There's a lot of projects going on in King City, Salinas, Pajaro, potential new projects in Seaside, what have you, but it it just we've been able to do stuff because we have somebody an expert like Roxanne.
So I just wanted to acknowledge her team because I don't I don't think other county staff would have had the the know how to deal with some of the the tough politics that come with dealing with homelessness. Watson was an example where she really took the brunt of people yelling at her, and she kept her cool. So I just wanted to thank her for that.
And just to add to that, she did also resuscitate two different HomeKey projects. So for the CAO's budget, the ask is for 25,000 to be found for the PIO, and that's from both supervisor Church and Alejo.
I just I I can echo. I think that the PIO was is one of the most important positions that we have added to this county, and who knew that we would need to have a crisis communicator Mhmm. In the ways that we have needed that over the past handful of years. And Nick has been just absolutely phenomenal. I think I think I will also give credit where credit's due. I think the passage of AA, I don't know that that would have been possible had had we not had communication coming out of the county in the way that we have over the past five years. So I would I would support I I will continue to support all of the work that comes out of the communications team.
Agreed. While we're doing that, just, hey. I dreamt of that position and, you know, yeah, put it put it into a goal for a CAO, and then it took years, but we got it. And I think we've all seen how that bore fruit. So just wanna echo that and congratulate Nick for all he's done with that department and same with Roxanne who's been an absolute champion at seeing things through. I just got a request to show up to a ribbon cutting or groundbreaking for the facility in King City. So we're seeing progress, and I think it's due to the folks that we've empowered to do the work.
That's 25,000 for the PIO?
Yes. Communications. And, that is, budget one zero five zero zero six.
And, madam CEO, along with that, nobody is gonna tell our story unless we tell it. So this money additional money for Nick is important. But going to the work Roxanne is doing, because I I try to tell people we have projects that she's trying to save. How many units will we create once they're all done? We got we got set back because of Shangri La, but the Fairview Hotel conversion would create 59 units for homeless.
Work Street, 101, King City, 45, Watson was 34 tiny homes, Soledad is 14. So when you put all those together, that's gonna be between two fifty and three hundred units of housing. And if there's one more that that that Roxanna is trying to see if she could save in Salinas, so even more so. But we need to show the public that we we get did finish these projects, and now they're being utilized to get people off the street or out of their cars and into permanent or transitional housing. So those are the stories that can be told in collaboration with our PIO. Yeah.
Understood.
Okay. So, we'll move on to, item number 19. That's the CAO nondepartmental. This is where we have the contingencies. It starts with contingencies and goes through the revolving loan program at 1050027. There's any items there?
Is where those other set asides got put Yes. The direct funds. And, again, I just I I think we need to be I appreciate, I think there are really good programs that we're funding, but we have a lot of other organizations that are also doing incredible work, but that we have, go through the grant or the contracting process. So we have some organizations that we require them to go through the granting process, but yet we have other organizations that are not required to go through the contracting process. It's not clear who or why that was set up that way, and I think that there is a need to to to equalize that or have it have there be clarity on that point.
So I appreciate that it was put that that you guys came in and that you've just put those into a a spot where it seems to make sense. But from a from a place of the community looking in at that, it does not make sense on a broader scale. So I think if we could be clear about how organizations would say, hey, I wanna just get a allocation of county dollars as well. There isn't a process or way to do that.
So we did go through the Board of Supervisors budget, and one of the items that we did include was a 100,000 in each of your districts for allocation by board members. This current year, 2425, we allocated 200,000 for that same purpose, and most of you have expended the amount in in total. Some of those items have come to either county council or myself for review. Others have come directly to the board. But we did allow for that, addition to the budget to allow for some of those community, projects that may be occurring within your communities or benefit the, the county as a whole.
And this board did provide direction on the actions that that we took in April when we had the budget town hall.
Correct.
And and these are different because they've been funded consistently by this board almost unanimously, like, for the last five years or more. So I think but but I think when you have a tough budget, just like when the same question was brought up about the DSAs, can you open up? Well, there isn't a lot of money right now to go around. You're gonna create a process where there isn't no money. You're gonna set up false hopes and expectations, and nobody's gonna be happy in the end. So this is a time when there isn't money. Keep those few that you'd were able to fund because you historically funded them and not open a Pandora's box that we may regret later.
And we did have a similar process in the County Of Fresno where we did identify specific entities that the board as a whole had, decided to fund, and that's how we identified until the community knew which agencies were gonna be funded. This also includes the enterprise resource planning, so once we have a better idea in terms of what is needed, we'll be returning to your board for that piece. So moving on to number 20, it is human resources, non departmental. This is primarily related to the benefits, and starts with dental at 106,010, page two forty seven, and goes through miscellaneous benefits at 106,017. Any questions there?
Okay. We'll move on to auditor at page two sixty three. This is for auditor controller departmental, and it starts at 11 111001 and goes to 111006, and it's a two internal audit. Any questions there? The next one is number 22, and it is auditor controller, nondepartmental.
Starts at page two seventy nine, and it is budget org eleven ten ten and goes through eleven ten twenty. And it is and ends with debt service. In there? Going on to number 23, treasurer tax collector at page two eighty three. Any questions on that?
County council department is number 24 at page three eleven, and it includes the risk management division. Any questions? Comments? Okay. Number 25 is nondepartmental for county council, and it's the general liability, workers' compensation, the grand jury, and also enterprise risk.
Questions there? For number 26, it is clerk of the board at page three three one, and it's assessment appeals and also clerk of the board's budget. K. Number 27 is information technology at page three five five, and we did have Eric, provide a brief comment. Any questions from the board?
And going on to public safety and criminal justice emergency communications, and I know Leanne has been with us all day today. It starts at page two three forty five. Any questions for Leanne? Okay. Thank you. Number 29 is child support services at page three eighty five. Any questions for Daryl? K. And number 30 is public defender at page three ninety one, and it go it includes alternate, defender's office and twenty eleven realignment. No questions there.
Going on to probation department at page four three three, and I believe the chief's been with us all day. And any questions there starts our alternative programs and goes down to juvenile probation, twenty eleven realignment. Going on to land use environment environment number 32 is ag commissioner, and we have Juan Hidalgo here as well. That's at page four seven oh, I'm sorry. Four fifty seven. Any questions?
Just a quick question on King City. Chris, Suarez Lopez, is that ag commissioner's office moving forward? Or
Moving forward, in fact, I think phase one is nearly complete.
I just haven't heard in a while. Yeah. I wanna see what's if it was in the plans for this coming fiscal year.
You wanna talk a little bit about where we are on that one and sort of next round?
Yes. Good afternoon, chair, members of the board. Juan Delgoa, commissioner. Thank you for your question, Supervisor Alejo. Yes, we are moving forward.
So we're part of the office has been updated, and we're happy to have Supervisor Lopez and his team move into the location. There's another building in that same site where we have a tow shop where we're hoping to look at that to be able to move some of the services that we currently have down in King City for that commissioner's office. That would include having enough staff to be able to work with our growers, also be able to have some of the equipment that we currently have at the public works yard on 2nd Street. And so that's something that we're going to be working on over the next couple of years. And so that way, that location there can be closer to some of the older county facilities in the area and certainly, more accessible to to our communities down there.
Great. Thanks for the update.
Welcome.
Thanks, Juanilo. K. Going on to recreation and education. Hillary has been here today.
She's at the back there.
So if you there's any questions for her, her budget starts at page five 99. And just a quick plug for the library. She's also very involved in when it comes to any of our responses for emergency services. She serves as a temporary, evac site and, continues to operate at her site. I think there was recently a generator put in at one of the facilities. So she's actually upgrading the site to be able to better serve our community whenever there is a event, especially in South County and in North County. So Hillary is here. So if you wanna provide just a quick update, Hillary, because
I The don't
operational budget for the library as presented is very, very tight but operationally balanced. We may be back midyear after the complete loss of federal funding for libraries ripples through the layers, and we determine how we're gonna cope with that loss. But that will be more we'll know it more October, November. And San Lucas, Greenfield, and Castroville are now fully generator ready buildings. Wheel up the generator. Public Works has we can operate the air conditioning, the heating, all the lights, all the power, all the connectivity for as long as you can pour gas in the generator.
Yes. And we'll be seeing Hillary also because I believe there's a couple of CIP projects as well that are ongoing. So thank you, Hillary. Number 34 is cooperative extension. That's at page six zero five. There was a recent appointment of a new, director, and she'll be joining us, I believe, in June sometime. But we've had Larry that's been serving in that position, and he's been great. And any questions for Cooperative Extension? Okay. And we move on to Nativida.
I know doctor Harris has been online, and I believe Janine and maybe other team members are also joining. He is on, his budget is on page one, I'm sorry, six one one. And I apologize. I need protein. So, any questions for Natividad?
Just just a comment, madam CEO. The the reason I wanted to bring this up because I know I'm concerned about Natividad, also our health clinics with the big ugly bill that was approved. I think that's proposing to cut $550,000,000,000 over the next eight years. Certain and as, Hillary was saying, our librarian, that the congressional budget won't be approved probably September, October. So we will actually have a clearer picture what the ramifications are, but I just wanted to flag that because I because I I'm sure we're gonna have to come back and relook at our budget if those funding streams are significantly impacted, especially to to the our health care safety net. So
So right around that time, we will have also a discussion about year end and, potential look at the fund balance. So I think that would be an appropriate time to just provide an update in terms of what the outcomes of the federal budget are. Valerie, do we have doctor Harris? I know he joined us earlier today. He's also participating on a on a conference. Okay? Alright. But we'll plan on that for him to provide an update. So last is, number 36, and it is the CAO's nondepartmental. This is contingencies at believe that's wrong. I think it's might be page six sixteen and not two sixteen. Okay. So, any questions there?
And that is it.
Alright. Then, again, before I I
have one more clarifying thing. Sorry. Staff's bringing up. So supervisor Church brought up not backfilling the road fund, and we never really went down the rest of that with everybody. So when we bring it back, do you want the road fund backfilled or not backfilled?
You did originally, you said backfill it, but then you brought up, well, maybe we don't need to as a
I just brought it up for potential discussion down the line.
Oh, stay with the original vote. Okay. Okay. Just wanna stop with his email.
We're gonna go to the CIC portion. Before we do that, I made a commitment, and I just wanna follow through on that commitment to our folks from IHSS who were here earlier with the SAIU representatives who were not able to stay. I want to thank them for being here to show up to make sure we were aware that they were also going into negotiations. They wanted this board to be aware, wanted us to know that they have supported our community for so long and that they're asking us support them as they move forward with their negotiations. So I committed to them that I would make sure that this board was fully aware, but I know everybody up here is. I just wanted to follow through on that promise to that team to share that with the board even though they had to leave before we open public comment. So with that, having
But in the governor's budget, it doesn't look good for IHSS. Right. He's proposing putting limits on the hours that they could serve. That's out of our control, but that's where the advocacy and sacrament is really needed at this time because the governor's budget proposed May revise was not kind to HSS workers.
Agree. So just wanted to follow through on that commitment with that having been done. We'll jump over to the CIC portion of this agenda. Then after that, we're gonna break for dinner, and then we'll come back and finish up on those remaining agendas.
Okay. I think I think John Snively is online and ready to share his screen.
Alright, John. Floor is yours.
Thank you, chair Lopez. And, supervisors, good afternoon. I think it might be good evening at this point. So let me bring up my worksheet again. This is what you had seen a little bit earlier. I added some columns here so I can try to capture votes if need be. Just refresher because we've talked about a lot of things today. Hopefully, you're seeing my screen. We're using a $14,800,000 starting balance as our as our starting point for fund four seventy eight. Just as a form, we're setting aside a 10% of that 14 $1,480,000.
So that if we did that, that would leave a running balance of $13,320,000 to play with. And, again, I got three categories of projects here. This first grouping here are the projects highlighted by three or more supervisors during the budget workshop. Then I have some of our supplemental recommendations from PWFP and two projects that arose after the budget workshop that we we felt we needed to inform you of. So I have notes on these projects. I can speak to them in greater detail. We have staff to speak to projects as well. But I'd like to to hear how you'd like, what you would like for me to to make this work. I have this at your disposal.
Alright. So supervisor Daniels.
Yes. I just I did wanna speak up earlier about the ADA having been in the CIP, or the Capital Improvement Committee, the CIC, when, you know, we didn't say anything, but we moved it forward. And, the thought I have is just that New Hernandez is our lawsuit, not the sheriff's. And so I feel like if there is a project that, we need to be in compliance, and so we need to be able to, at least put an amount in that we're starting and committed to this remediation work. And so that's just the the 2¢ that I have.
It was just the one project that I would be looking not the one. I'm just wanted to speak up since I didn't in the last hearing about the, the need, I think, to find, $4.78 funds for this project and move it up. Thank you.
Alright. So, John, walk me again through what you're hoping we'll do. Are you asking me to go line by line here? Just looking at how you
have your
sheet set up.
We'd like to do is identify those projects that you that the board would like to fund using fund $478. So we recognize there might be other options. I can start plugging numbers in if we just you know, if I just copy pasted everything from what the budget workshop did just to start?
I appreciate that. I think the challenges we've already done '27 through '33. Are you asking me to reconsider those? Because I don't I think I can ask the board. Is there is anybody who wants to pull an item from those to reconsider?
I don't think you had the we didn't have the confirmation on all the votes. So I think we do need the polling to confirm and then, of course, the amount.
And there's also the four that they're adding on the bottom. There's, like, a couple reasons why they added them. You might want them to go through why they added those, on the bottom or, and what the what the repercussions of not doing them would be. So for example, I know just off the top because I've been in a couple meetings, the the solar project that we're doing on the roof right here, the I'm not gonna say this right. I should be having an engineer say this.
The roof is not under warranty. If we put the solar on, they think the roof's gonna be needed to be replaced in the next couple years. We'd have to pull the solar off for an additional $3,000,000, maybe damaging the solar and putting it back on. Parking lot has some of the same kind of issues out there on this building. We've already gone down that contract, committed to it, and bought the solar. So there would be restocking fees on the underside of it. So maybe maybe you want some detail on what exactly those are. And same with that HVAC repair and replacement. I know, they were talking about it being very hot out at Schilling, and there's days that they have to send people home because it is over the regulation temperature. So maybe getting a little background from staff on that would be helpful for you guys.
Alright. We're yeah. I'm gonna go supervisor Church then ask you.
What what I'm just suggesting is maybe now is a good time to take a break before we get into this too deeply. I mean, we're gonna be coming back anyway for some of the rest. And I think I just, you know, be a little clearer ahead.
I pushed I pushed the horse a little too hard. I get it. I get it. Alright. We're gonna take a thirty minute break here. It's 05:07. We'll be back here at 05:40 to continue the work.
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