City Council - Regular Meeting

Alright. Welcome everybody. I'm going to call the Moab City Council meeting to order on September 8th, 2026 at 6 o'clock p.m. Just so you know, September 8th, 1998, I married my husband 28 years ago today. I'm sorry, I decided to share that event with you all tonight without my husband here. So anyway, he told me to say something, so I did. All right, we'll start with the Pledge of Allegiance. And Tani, will you lead us in the pledge? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Do we have any public comments this evening? All right, seeing none, we will move on to our consent agenda. We have three items this evening, 3.1, a fraud risk assessment. We do this every year. It's an assessment to ensure that our risk for fraud is low and it allows us to get a decrease in our insurance rates. We have the approval of the minutes from August 25th, 2026, regular meeting and approval of the bills against the city of Moab in the amount of $206,921.11. We have a motion to approve the consent agenda.

I'll motion to approve the consent agenda.

Motion by Caitlin, second by Colin. Any discussion, Caitlin?

I'll just make a note that I was absent for the August 25th meeting, so I lost it, but also I'm cleaning up my council members to additionally review those.

Okay, anything? Anybody else? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes five to zero. All right, Kelly. We have, is Kelly? There she is. We have two items under general business, two event permits. The first one is special event permit approval for the 2026 Center Street Festival. If you all remember, we have a great block party downtown right off of Center Street. This year, we're talking about closing down Center Street. There's a lot of people. It's a big event. And it's kind of dangerous. And there's another event across the street at the same time. So there was a lot of interaction. Great events. But anyway, we need to give them a special permit for closing down the streets, I think.

Yeah, it's a new street closure. So that's why it's coming here. Any questions?

Are we going to allow them to put, like, booths and stuff on the street?

There will be booths on the street, very similar to how we do it for Street Fest in front of the market.

Oh, okay, cool.

Anybody else? Motion?

I will make a motion to approve the special event permit, the 2026 Center Street Fest.

Solution by Jason, second. I'll second it. Second by Miles. Discussion, Jason.

No, I'm just excited to see this event. It's an awesome event. It's good to see it grow and kind of take over that street.

Miles? Same thing. I really enjoy these street fests. It's cool to see it expand. And yeah, shutting down the center makes a lot of safety sense. So looking forward to it.

Anybody else? All those in favor, say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed? Motion passes 5-0. The next special event is the 2026 Moab Locals 10K. This is coming back before you because they anticipate there's going to be over 200 participants this year. And there's some change. It used to end at the hospital. Now it's going to end at Swanee. And those are the major changes, correct? That's correct. Questions? Questions? Motion.

I'll make a motion. I'll make a motion to approve the special event permit for the 2026 MOAB Locals 10K.

Motion by Jason. Second by Colin. Discussion? Jason.

So again, thank you for this. They were in the meetings when we were kind of talking with the county and the city and everybody. And it was discussed to try to get as much traffic as we could towards Suwannee Park on that day, you know, because of all the stuff that's going on there. And so Rana was very accommodating in moving it down there, which I think will really help the event and push a lot of people towards the park for the Winterfest. So it's great.

Great.

No comment.

Anybody else? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes 5-0. All right, Kelly, don't go anywhere. Our next item is pretty exciting. This is the consideration of a sponsorship agreement between the city of Moab and FCA US LLC. And Michael, I'm just going to turn it over to you. You've heard a lot about this over the last few months. Pretty exciting opportunity for the city of Moab.

So can I? Sure. Really quickly. I'm going to go. I don't want there to be a perception of a conflict of interest with myself because I do own a Jeep rental company in town and stuff. And and while I think there's not a direct conflict, I want to avoid perception of a conflict. So I'm going to go sit in the audience for this and.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thanks. This meeting is moving way faster than I thought it was going to. So I'm just bringing up some information right now. And while I'm bringing this up, Kelly's joining me tonight because if you read the staff report, you know Kelly and I are going to be working closely on this, as well as existing staff, including Lisa Church with communications. But for a lot of things, Kelly's going to be the key person primary contact for Jeep. I also, the FCC LLC stands for Fiat Chrysler Corporation. So we're dealing with the big, people in Detroit when we're talking about this. So it's really, it's been a lot of fun talking with them and working with them and getting to the point where we can present this with a favorable recommendation tonight for the City Council. I do have a presentation and we'll go over that. Kelly and I will share in this. So let's get started. So the city of Moab, we put out an RFP, as you know. This was some time ago, and I brought you back the results from that RFP. There was only one response, and it was Jeep through Stellantis. Stellantis, Fiat Chrysler Corporation, and Jeep, all the same thing. So we're working with them. They were the only ones who provided a proposal, so they're the ones we're working with on this. this two-year sponsorship agreement would give Jeep the authority to call themselves the official 4x4 of Moab. And that's really what they're getting out of this. And there's advertising, lots of different things. But a big part of this is that Jeep and Moab have had a really close connection forever. Okay, so the direct support is $125,000 annually and that that is unrestricted can be used for anything I'm proposing that a portion of that be used to help offset some of the work that's going to have to be done through Kelly's department. Kelly. Kelly. I want to work directly with Kelly on this project. And of course, with Lisa again, I'm not leaving Lisa out of this, but I want to because it's heavily reliant on or heavily geared towards activities and and events and things like that. I thought Kelly was a natural fit for that. But Kelly is going to have to be doing a lot of stuff. We met today for about a half an hour and we came up with a laundry list of things to move this forward. So what I'm proposing is that to offset the work that she'll be doing for this, that we add a halftime person to her department to keep up with all of the work. And now it's in the staff report that you can see. The indirect financial support would be approximately $100,000 annually. And this is only the value of the vehicles. The money that we will not have to spend towards vehicles and purchasing things like that and the type of vehicles we're getting is a value of about $100,000 a year. It's indirect. But that doesn't mean it's not real. It's actual cash that we will not have to spend in the next two years to outfit the city of Moab. There's lease costs and there's insurance and there's all of that kind of stuff. But then there's also vehicles that we own that we'll be able to sell. And it's hard to determine how much These vehicles we'll bring in, but we do have a few nice vehicles. Used to be police vehicles that we'll be able to sell, and they've been bringing pretty good prices at the auction. So we'll be able to add that money to the vehicle fund as well. And that's not added to this. That could be an additional $50,000 to $75,000 in the next two years. But again, it's really hard to estimate with those things because they are auctions. So that's the indirect. They're also going to be providing sponsorship for two community events and two trail events. Now, what does sponsorship mean in this sense? Kelly's actually going to talk about that in just a little bit, what they're going to provide, what they have agreed to, what we can expect from them and stuff like that. I didn't put a dollar amount to that because it's a little bit different. It's not going to be cash, but it might be a lot of T-shirts and stickers and lots of different swag and different things that will help with our advertising, that kind of stuff. But I'll leave that to Kelly. And then they have put out there that the marketing support would be worth more than $10 million annually. And this one is new to us, but I have met with the Moab Office of Tourism and we've talked about this. They were really excited about talking to us about this advertising and we're gonna be talking to them a lot, trying to be consistent with them, but this will still be a Moab, city of Moab. marketing program, but we definitely want to work with them. But anyways, they were excited about the $10 million. They're like, that's huge. It's massive. So we're really excited about it as well. Like I said, for us, it's new. So we're kind of like, Oh, that sounds cool. $10 million. But to the Moab office of tourism, they're like, that's like five times what we, what we're using for advertising. So they're really excited about it. Go to the next slide. Just talking about Moab and Jeep and the relationship that's been around for a really long time. This is downtown Moab. I believe that's the uranium building right there in the middle of the screen. And you can see a lot of old-time Jeeps. They've been closely tied to the community for a very long time. And the proposal that we have from them is them trying to formalize that relationship and to give back to the community, to give back direct financial investment, which we just talked about. Marketing exposure, which for them is global. It's putting us out there everywhere. Tourism demand generation, which if we're out there globally, it's going to create some demand, I think. That's the way marketing usually works. And then also the sponsorship of the community events, trail stewardship, preservation, and then the integration, just the integration within the community, working with our businesses, our clubs, things like that that already exist within the community. So I'm gonna go over this pretty quick, because we've already talked about most of it. So you know about the $125,000 in direct per year, the five vehicles worth about $100,000 a year, about that's how much it's worth to us. The trail stewardship, and restoration efforts. And we'll talk about that in just a minute because we will be working with partners on this. This will not be solely the city of Moab. We have made contact with most of those partners. Kelly's gonna talk about that in a minute. The two community events, Kelly's also gonna talk about our proposal on those and what we think those should be. We just talked about that. And then they're also going to be working with us on the smaller side of marketing where we're talking about social media and helping us to produce smaller social media reels or whatever they are, whatever we're doing. It's short, short things, but they've made it known that any of the resources that they're using, including all of the video, photographs, all that kind of stuff, they're going to make available to us so that we can share that information and use it ourselves.

A lot of this is going to take a while. I don't want to do that either. Okay. a big, huge that hurt. And.

to see if anybody else was interested in this.

And this is just a new thing for, I think, everybody.

So there's lots of reasons why we wanted to do two years. One, it's a pilot. Two, we're not really sure of a lot of things. And the two years will give us opportunity to figure that out, the value of the types of things we're doing, the value of the brand, all that kind of stuff. So I do think, to answer your question, I do think they'll be interested after the two years to continue doing this. I know that they're a long-term supporter of Moab, and I think they're going to be a long-term, they're in it for the future as well. They're very tied to this community. In two years, there might be some competition, too. I don't know. So we'll see how that goes. Now, the other thing, just as just an anecdotal thing, one of the things they brought up with me when they met with me first was, you know, Sturgis, which has got a relationship with motorcycles, kind of like we do with Jeep. Sturgis signed a deal with Harley Davidson for 50 years. And I was like, well, we're not doing that. But the two years, I think, is a good opportunity to see where this goes to work some of the kinks out and stuff like that and then talk about a longer term if the council is still interested in doing that. I think Jeep will still be interested.

Just as we look forward, you know, the value that those vehicles they're leasing us represent and how we can budget around this really depends on whether or not this looks like a longer term thing or whether or not this looks like it may be a shorter arrangement. So good to know the temperature on that.

Yeah. Okay, so I'm going to get back on here so that Kelly can refer. That's okay, as long as you don't think it's my fault. So, okay, Kelly.

Yeah, so in that first year, and it wouldn't start this September, our Red Records Festival is actually at the end of this month, but that's one of the events that we'd like to showcase with them. This is an existing event that we already put on. It's usually three to four days, and it's a free community festival. So this seems like a natural pair for that. And every year we kind of update this based on community feedback on what people want to see and what they want to have as a part of this festival. So we'd be working with them on sponsorship materials. We put out newspaper ads, flyers around town, and we currently work with local businesses on a lot of that too. So it would still be a community event in which we'd work with a community, but kind of getting it a little bit bigger for us. We'd be working with them on the social media as well. We work with some local partners on that right now and then some in the state. And then they would be coming to the events as well, so having a space for their tent. And they talked about doing some activations and activities at the tent, so it would be interactive as well as a display. And then we talked about doing a Moab 125th celebration, which is pretty exciting. And we've got a little bit of flexibility on what we want that to look like, but it's something we would start planning right away because it's for 2027. And so Moab was, you know, the December timeframe is when we were incorporated, but we could do an event in December. We could do something more in the springtime that's closer to that Easter Jeep Safari event. And that also puts it on the other end of the season that we get a lot of that visitation. So we've got some flexibility there. And then the other option with doing it in spring is it could be tied in with one of the trail cleanup events. So it could be a festival and some of that trail sewer chimp. And then the event that would be further down the line, so that 2028 one, that gives us some time to see what people are enjoying at these events and then make those changes, make those adjustments if needed to make that event a really community focused thing, which is something they expressed on calls with us is they do want to give back to the community. They've been here, they've been doing events, but what does that mean for people who live here? What can that look like?

So glad you just said that, Kelly, because I think that is one of the community's fears is that sort of we lose our personality to this, you know, what makes Moab really special. And, you know, it sounds like Jeep is really is talking the talk and keeping these things, you know, sort of true and genuine to Moab.

Yeah, and I think that's something that is great about the Red Rock Arts Festival is you see your friends and neighbors there, but it is also welcoming to people that are visiting town. So it's kind of that mix. It's not for just one person. It's for everybody.

Yeah, and I'd just like to add the 125th anniversary celebration. I would discourage doing something in the spring because it's so busy here. There's so much going on. And that is another kind of a Moab celebration. I understand Jeep probably wants to reach out to a lot of people. And so the spring would be desirable. But we do something else in the spring that's tied to Jeep Safari. I think this is an event that is really tied to our community. And doing it in the winter, it's kind of cool.

get people here so anyway something to consider we'll talk about it when we get there and we have time so that's good um you want to go on to the next one yeah have any other questions for these ones so the trail stewardship events um is that what we're talking about oh sorry i was gonna wait on that one but oh no you go ahead Yeah, we talked about doing some trail stewardship events, and these we would work with GCAT, we would work with Steward Moab, we would work with local community groups that are already doing these things, and they have a good kind of idea of where those needs are. So we would be working with Jeep to make sure we're not, you know, cleaning up a trail that's brand new. Unless it needs it. So that's something we're excited about too. And those don't have to be just motorized trails. They can be, they can be a mix. They can be some of those multi-user trails. So those would be a couple of events a year as well. And that's separate from the ones that we just talked about.

Are you ready for me to go to the next slide or? Okay. Okay. I misheard that.

Sorry. So we're also working. So the people we're working with are Nate and Nicole. And so that's kind of the executive support from their team. And then Some other folks we'll be working with are on their events and PR teams. And they've been really excited about this project. They were introduced to me recently and they're just so excited about Moab and being a part of it and giving back. And then me, I will be working on this project, Elisa, Michael, and then my team as well. And we've chatted with these partner organizations and we're looking forward to making sure that that everybody is kind of getting something out of this agreement and that it's working for all the people that, that are involved.

And we have had conversations with GCAT just in very informal and we need, we're going to be meeting with Maddie pretty soon, I hope. And then the Moab office of tourism and steward Moab is the one that we haven't connected with, but Kelly and I are going to get with them pretty quickly here. So we just got kicked off again. So. Let me see if I can. Well, we were on the last one, so. I'm not going to sign back on. That's okay.

Yeah. Were there any questions?

Questions, counsel?

I have one more, actually. I just wanted to, before we get to questions, or unless you want to just ask Kelly questions.

Questions for Kelly. Yeah, well, I guess I'm curious with partner organizations. It sounds like for community events, we're kind of looking at Red Rock, but then also like newer events for like the trail stewardship. Are they going to be tagging on to like the team Rubicon projects? Are they going to be doing like amplifying like the?

So we would have, so two events in 2027, Red Rock Arts Festival, and then the 125th, and then the trail events would be separate.

I guess my question in the way that we're designing events, kind of like new events for Jeep, like are we looking at for trail stewardship, kind of designing new community events around trail stewardship with Jeep, or is Jeep going to be supporting existing like Springs for Stuff and that kind of thing?

I think there's flexibility for both.

Yeah, they don't. They want us to choose something that we want them to sponsor so and it would be in addition to the things that they already do or already have planned for the calendar year. We've talked to them about what kind of trails, like are they okay with us doing mountain bike. Or do they all have to be motorized type trails and they they said that they were good with mountain bike, they'd like to keep it to mountain bike or motorized and I know that G cat has a section with motorized so we'd be working with them to find new some new projects that aren't already sponsored.

Thank you.

Miles. So my question is kind of in into the nuts and bolts of the marketing specifically and really kind of touching on Collins point there. I'm curious if there's a framework around how we're going to negotiate that because it's been described that this $10 million they're putting towards marketing is going to reflect the town and reflect our, you know, downtown master plan and our businesses and what to do in Moab while you're here to Jeep. And I'm curious kind of how much of that the council will see. There has been a lot of concern. You voiced it as well. I've heard it of just kind of the idea that like, We'll get lost in this. And, you know, I mean, I've, I've, the way I've explained to people is well you know like Jeep has been doing marketing the center around Moab for the longest time without being able to put the official label on. But at the same time, if they're making this offer to. build marketing that not only markets their product, but markets our town and our businesses. I'm curious how often that's going to come in front of council and how much of that we're going to be able to see and influence as people who speak for the community and speak for those needs and how much of it is going to happen in a cheap negotiation area that we aren't going to see as much.

Well, I mean, some of it is definitely going to happen with conversations that we're having. But the partners we're working with on this are, well, there's us. And then there's the Moab Office of Tourism. And then also... any any other partners that we think we need to involve bringing into this and what we would do is work with these groups to review and approve the commercials or the advertising that jeep is doing most likely they're not going to bring us to the table to do the the drawing boards or the storyboards and things like that most likely this is a jeep commercial that that features moab and is positive to Moab and represents us potentially in a light that they haven't represented us in before as a community, not just a place where you go and ride trails. So we're gonna work with them to make sure that we're following all the aspects that we believe are appropriate for the community. And then what we can do and what we should do is bring a product to the city council for you to see. That's the way that I envision this happening. I do think they want our opinion. They want us to approve things. They're probably going to involve us a little bit on the front end. And they're probably going to ask us things that they want us to avoid or any hot topics or anything like that. But they're the production people. And they're, they're most likely going to put this stuff together and then ask us to review it.

Sure. And that's why we're bringing Kelly on so that, you know, that's her job to do that. You know, you guys, we want to share, I believe what they're going to put out there, but we want Kelly to kind of be the lead on working directly with them so that they, she can make sure that they're getting the information that you guys want to, for them to put out there. Yeah. in the media and in advertisement. Does that make sense? Yes. Okay.

No. Yeah. I was just looking for like, at what points in the process, cause it made sense to me, obviously Jeep is not going to show up with a storyboard. in a city council meeting and talk to us about their ideas for the feel of a commercial or something like that. But, you know, what kind of list we generate for like in the beginning where we're like, Hey, you know, we want to see these, these portions of our community featured, or, you know, we're, we're doing this work in this area. We would like to see that featured. That's the kind of stuff I feel like we can load up front to really give them a good idea of how the community wants to be represented. And then being able to review it at some point before it goes literally international and so that we can make sure that it still represents those values that our constituents are bringing to us, I think is important.

If I can respond to that really quick, I think we've got a pretty good handle as well as with Moab on how to represent the community. But I do think there might be things that you guys could have unique perspectives on. So one thing that Kelly and I could do is after we meet with them and start talking about a project, We can come to the city council and give you guys some opportunity to see what we saw, to hear what we heard, and give some feedback so that it can be incorporated earlier on. But I feel really good about the relationship with them. I don't think... I think they're going to be very respectful of our wishes. So why don't we just plan on doing that?

That sounds excellent.

We can do that through our mayor council meetings and just have Kelly and Michael come and share what the progress line looks like. Does that sound good?

Maybe. Yeah. Does that sound better than being in a council meeting? I think I would like to have it a little bit more public facing some of the decision making and influence.

Well, I think a lot of it on the front end could absolutely be in those meetings. But when we're really if there is any point at which we can make a real decision about like, hey, we see this whole package of marketing and we're going to say, yes, we as a community like that, that feels like something that should be a bit more public. Yeah.

We'll just see where this all goes. I don't know exactly how that's going to shape. If we open it too much to the public, it could get a little complicated. Let's just see how it all plays out and rely on Kelly and Michael to share with us. Then we can decide how far we want it to go in terms of involving the community in some of this advertising.

And I also feel like, you know, because it is, and I appreciate that we are in a pretty short-term contract here, that it is two years and that it is in Jeep's best interest to represent us, you know, in a way that we feel like we want to be represented. And, you know, not in a way that sort of sells our soul to the brand, but really showcases the soul of Moab and really, you know, highlights it. Um, you know, and I'm under no illusion that, that, you know, these, like these trail work events are not going to be, um, you know, uh, opportunities for them to create content where, you know, a Jeep vehicle is going to show up with trail team and trail crew and do this work and they're going to be able to show it. But, you know, I mean, I think that's the trade-off because I think that there's going to be some real selfish intent on our part to, you know, get some great work done, you know, with the help of this. And so I think that, uh, you know, for us as, as council and staff, you know, we've sort of got to balance those things too, that understand that, you know, they're really looking for something out of this relationship too, besides just formalizing this longstanding relationship. But, but it seems to me like we're getting a lot out of it too. But yeah, but I, and I know, you know, Kelly too, that you know, that we're all very intent on just really maintaining this, this all of Moab and And then I'd also just like to say that, you know, I, I don't know if their social media team really understands what it's getting into when it's coming to, you know, the table with our social media team, because we've got some pretty heavy hitters to our staff. So

right well yeah we'll see i learned colin's skills in front of the camera he's he's trying to hype up his new way oh it's amazing spot no yeah oh kelly's amazing yeah

Okay. One more thing. Okay.

So I think the other thing is, you know, we would like this relationship to continue through future council members. So I think it's kind of, I mean, to all your points, I think it's important for us to make this work really well for the next two years. So another future council, a future mayor, future city manager is like, we've got to keep this going. This is really benefiting us. So I think, you know, we're kind of, we're kind of in the lead right now.

Yeah, this is awesome. Yeah. So I just had one more thing to just a summary. I'm recommending approval of this, we would love to see this go forward and work with cheap we think this is a perfect pilot program for two years gives us a really good opportunity to see what works and what doesn't work. On both sides, the agreement creates a significant financial value for the city of Moab and reduces financial costs for the city of Moab, which is a big deal. Expands Moab's national marketing reach through Jeep's platform. Of course, we want to do that in the way that is appropriate for Moab, and I think they're going to be very respectful of that. Mayor Mrakas, brings private sector resources to the Community events like trails to Community events and trails and city operations, for that matter, which is a big thing. Mayor Mrakas, formalizes a long standing Moab jeep relationship with direct Community belt benefits and advances city goals through public private partnership promoting Moab as a destination. So the bottom line is staff believes the financial, operational, marketing, and community benefits significantly outweigh the responsibilities associated with the agreement on our end, and we recommend approval of this agreement.

Any other questions or comments?

I did. Kind of about the city's role in marketing. I feel like we've talked a lot about it, but specifically, there's one about dedicated email, like the city sending email. Do you want to add?

yeah we we had talked with them about this as well as the office of tourism about this we don't necessarily have like a marketing list um so that's less of a focus for them on the contract but it's something that like as a big corporation they put in here so we'll be working with the the tourism office for that kind of that element of the contract

Any other comments, questions? I'll ask for a motion to approve a two-year sponsorship agreement with the City of Moab between the City of Moab and FCA US LLC Jeep.

I move to adopt the recommended two-year City of Moab and FCA US LLC Jeep sponsorship agreement as presented.

Motion by Colin?

I'll second.

Second by Miles. Discussion? Colin?

I just want to say, first, thank you for bringing this to us. I'm really excited about this. And two, one of the things that I'm most excited about is, one, this is really going to establish a new relationship with one of these entities, these local entities, and then really bolster the existing relationship we have with a couple other of these local entities. know really hope that that you know through this it props them up and that that to me feels very real and substantial and and you know like it's really having a ripple effect or a multiplier effect in our community and so i you know i appreciate that i think most about this this arrangement so thank you miles yeah i'm i'm really excited about this this is

This is an interesting opportunity that we have because of what NOAB is, because of the place that we are, because of the beauty that surrounds us. People want to be here. People want to be associated with us. And on the nuts and bolts side, having a significant contribution to... One, an unrestricted contribution that can go to anything that we want and then other contributions that help us with our bottom line just seems like a good arrangement and I'm really excited to see the possibilities going forward. I think my greatest concern and one that has been echoed is just been that like you know as colin mentioned it's about keeping keeping the whole agreement feeling like moab is featuring us and the soul that we have rather than being run over by it and frankly the way that jeep has come to us and the conversations that we've been privy to seem to reinforce that and i'm excited about that you know with my my comments earlier were all about this is new and this doesn't have a framework and so the more framework we can build into it so that there is a policy and procedure around how we look at all this and how we go forward with this with jeep and you know in the future with possible other sponsors or otherwise like we are a special place and people do want to be associated with us and so if we can build a framework into this that allows us to you know look at this alternate funding and be associated with, I mean, cool companies that do good things in our community and that are already, you know, using images from our community and the wild spaces around us to promote their own brands. Like this is just a good way to get some of ours. So I'm very, very excited about that. And I really appreciate all the hard work you guys are putting into making this happen.

Thanks. Anybody else?

I agree with a lot of that. I think I'm excited to see kind of how this operates. Yeah, I agree with I don't need to repeat a lot of those comments. But I think that this is an excellent public private partnership opportunity. I'm, I'm especially excited to see kind of how the partnership with the Office of Tourism goes. I think that this is like, in alignment with economic development and working with large companies or large corporations um working with us and not about us um so i'm excited to see where where this can go um so thank you for your work thanks tony just thank you for all the work you put into this i think it'll be really good it'll be a really good fit for mohammed

All right. We have a motion made by Colin, seconded by Miles, to approve a two-year sponsorship agreement between the City of Moab and Jeep. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes 4-0 with Jason recusing himself. Great. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Exciting times. Exciting times. It's going to be pretty awesome. All right, next up, consideration of phase two development agreement for 57 West Cane Creek Boulevard, parcel 0100001-0200 between Amasa Aurora Apartments LLC in the city of Moab, Utah. And I think Johanna is going to, oh, and this is not on the agenda, on my agenda, but it is a resolution that 14-2026. So you will be considering the approval of Resolution 14-2026.

Mayor, before we get started, I am going to recuse myself from this item. The Amasa Arroyo Phase 2 is also tied to a project that is at Arroyo Crossing with the Community Land Trust. Okay, thanks.

Okay, so this is a phase two da we might remember our phase one da and the omnibus da. We are still at 57 West King Creek. And this phase phase two has 38 units. So we approved the omnibus DA in January of this past year, and then we came back for phase one in February. The Planning Commission has forwarded a positive recommendation about this phase two DA at their last meeting.

Sorry, I made a mistake also. The resolution that I mentioned is for the next item. So there is no resolution for this one. Sorry for the confusion. Any comments or questions for Johanna? Could I have a motion?

Wait, so I do have a quick comment. And so the change is just the front setback that we're... What is...

Yes.

Yes. Why it was pulled out of the, did you say that?

Yeah. Our concessions are the same as the whole development. We are waiving the active employment household in exchange for their LIHTC and then the five feet reduction from the previous five foot reduction of the omnibus. Got it. Okay.

Miles? So I was privy to the conversation at the P&Z meeting. It was discussed very thoroughly. We went over the specifics of exactly the staircase that will encroach further onto the... It's the frontage as well. So we're not reducing the setbacks against anyone else's property. It's towards the frontage. So it's less... onerous in that way. And it's a staircase coming off their community building that's going to kind of stick out towards the road. It is still well back out of the sidewalk and won't mess with sight lines for vehicles or otherwise. So it made a lot of sense to go forward with it. And that was why Planning Commission chose to forward the positive recommendation and Yeah, it was well thought out. There was good discussion determining whether or not this was an onerous ask or whether or not it was reasonable.

I can make a motion to approve the Phase 2 Development Agreement for 57 West Cane Creek Boulevard, Parcel 01-0001-0200 between Amasa Arroyo Apartments LLC and the City of Moab, Utah.

Motion by Tani. Second by Miles. Any discussion, Tani?

No, I just want to say I think that as I drive that road very often, I want to tell them I appreciate them.

I think they're trying really, really hard to respect the landscaping that we've done. I mean, it's a construction situation. Not every little leaf and stem is going to stay unbroken, but I can tell that they're trying really hard to respect that and do their best to keep it as nice as possible.

Yeah, I kind of threatened them not to mess with the landscape.

Oh, what were you going to do? No, no. They said if there was any issue, they would replace it. I can tell that they're trying really hard to keep it nice.

Miles?

It's great to see this project moving forward. And yeah, I was pleased to see the thorough discussion that happened at PNZ. It's nice to see new members on there and makes the decision at this end easier.

Anybody else? All right, motion by Tani, second by Miles to approve phase two development agreement for 57 West King Creek Boulevard between Amasa Arroyo Apartments and the City of Moab. All those in favor, say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed? Motion passes 4-0 with Caitlin recusing herself. Thank you, Johanna.

Johanna.

All right, next up. We have a consideration of adopting, this is where the resolution comes in, resolution number 14-2026, the resolution of the Moab City Council opting into and authorizing participation in the Utah C-PACE program to facilitate and finance C-PACE projects and improving and authorizing an agreement with Sustainable Real Estate Solutions. Val.

Yeah, we are considering it. A resolution for something that is somewhat procedural is the C-PACE program. Some of you may be familiar with it. We basically just need to update our end of the agreement as the state has changed its their structure. They have basically contracted it out to a private contractor to run it. So we just need to pass a resolution to continue our participation in the C-PACE program. But I did prepare a brief slideshow deck just for folks that may not be aware of the program, because it is a really great program. So anybody that may be watching at home, definitely Check it out. What is CPACE? So CPACE stands for the Commercial Property Assessed Clean Energy Program. Basically what it does is the state administers this program that allows commercial property owners and developers to access financing for clean energy projects, typically big solar projects, things of that nature. and i have been dropped from that as well so maybe i'll just talk about it um it's a pretty straightforward program it's been around for a really long time um no worries we'll get it we'll get it worked on and hopefully not happening at the next meeting but it sounds like we're going to be dealing with it tonight so yeah sounds good technical difficulties will happen. Cool. I'm sharing my screen. So I'll just keep talking about it. Basically, the city is not hooked for anything. We just access, we assess the lien on the property for the state to work with it. We're not giving any financing. We're not taking on any debt or liability. This is just a purely procedural thing that we need to update as they have turned that program over to this organization called Sustainable Real Estate Solutions as the administrator. I have Teddy Chappelle on the line if anybody has any specific questions about their particular services. Like I said, it's purely procedural. I had a little bit of history on this slide deck that I don't have up yet. I was looking up the history of the C-PACE program and there's a big glossy ad for, they're touting the Gravity House and Wingate are shining examples of the C-PACE program. So any folks in Moab that are considering moving to more energy efficient ways of life with your commercial property, check it out. But yeah, we just need to pass Resolution 14-2026. This will authorize a five-year agreement with SRS. And that is what you are put forth to today to make a motion to pass the resolution.

Questions for Val?

I have one question I have. So are we just ending a five-year agreement and we're renewing another five years?

No, it is. We had signed onto it in 2018. I don't believe the previous agreement was a five-year agreement. I think it is just like a change in the way that the state is ministering it. how it is being triggered right now. So that's how the resolution is.

This is a new agreement. It's not renewing the old agreement. It's new and replaces the old agreement with the new information that's required of the state.

We used to have an agreement with the state and now it's including this contractor that now administers the program as a private entity.

And Val, I just just for the public listening. So the city does have a couple very minor responsibilities to this, you know, should they any of these commercial operations default on their loans, the city would be on the line for I guess, staff time and legal fees to because of the lean is that mean, but, but very minor compared to the, you know, what's being offset by, you know, encouraging these, these commercial operations too. Is that right?

Am I correct? Yes. I mean, I have Teddy on the line and she may be able to answer those questions a little bit more to her extensive knowledge set there, but that sounds about right that there will be kind of staff time for assessing the lean and, That is basically what we're on the hook for.

But not the responsibility to pay back whatever is owed by the developer. Correct. Is that correct, Teddy?

I just started with your video.

Not always. Usually we're moderately technological challenged, but now we're...

Did you have a question for me?

So, Teddy, if you could just, so could you just make it really clear to us sort of how the city's responsibility in this, in, you know, executing a lien on the properties and should they, should these properties default on their financing? Yeah.

Yes, just to be clear on two things. One, the agreement is the same agreement that we had with the city previously. So there's been no changes to the terms and how it's managed. And I actually was administering the program when the first agreement was signed. Relative to your responsibility, the city really acts as just a conduit. They are the city's entity that has the authority to place. It's the equivalent of like a water or sewer assessment. It doesn't change anything about the property per se. But the city is provided with a lien assessment document. And then when the city signs that, it contemporaneously signs an assignment of that agreement to the third-party lender, who at that point accepts all responsibility for collection of the funds. The agreement is directly between the borrower and And the lender, the city is not involved in the financing process at all. And the lender indemnifies the city against any further action. The statute actually gives them the authority that a jurisdiction would have should the borrower get behind. So the city is really, as I said, it acts as a conduit. The risk is very minimal because the lender assumes all of it. Does that answer your question?

Very well. Thank you, Teddy. Yes.

Sure. Thank you.

Any other questions, comments? Do I have a motion?

I can move to adopt resolution number 14-2026, a resolution of the Moab City Council opting into and authorizing participation in the Utah C-PACE program to facilitate and finance C-PACE projects and approving and authorizing an agreement with Sustainable Real Estate Solutions Incorporated to administer the city's C-PACE program.

Motion by Collins. Second? Second by Kaitlin. Discussion?

I think this is a great project or a great program. And commercial also means multifamily housing. So it's not just commercial businesses. It's a great program. If you're thinking about it, you should use it more. Great. Thanks.

Anybody else? All right. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes 5-0. Thanks, Val.

Thanks, everyone.

Thanks, Bill.

Thank you very much.

Thanks, Teddy. All right, next up, consideration of a purchase proposal with Pacific Fitness Corp. LLC for the MRAC fitness equipment purchase in the amount of $154,236. This is RAP tax money. It's going to be used to pay for this. And this is through the state process, procurement process. Right, Patrick? That's right.

Yeah. So Pacific Fitness Corps, who we purchased round one of the new fitness equipment back in 2024, is who we're looking to hopefully enter a contract with. Well, really not a contract, just a purchase agreement for phase two. So we've been really happy with the pre-core equipment. We secured some bids originally for round one. These guys came in lowest in that competitive pricing. We love the product. So phase two would include the rest of our cardio equipment and all the cable machines, everything that didn't get replaced in phase one at the MRAC for this amount.

Questions for Patrick?

Pat, what's your best guess? What's the lifespan of this equipment? How long did we have?

Yeah, that's a great question. So the current equipment, most of what's being replaced is original. So it's over 15 years old. It gets daily use. We're open seven days a week. So really impressed with how it's held up. This is similar commercial grade equipment, probably better. They've made a lot of advancements in the last 15 years. And so I think we can expect another, you know, if it's treated well and cleaned and cared for, at least another 15 to 20.

What are you doing with the old equipment?

So summer is going to help us set up a special auction, hopefully early November when the new equipment arrives for everything else. So the public will have an opportunity to bid on and win the old equipment.

So I was looking at the contract proposal and it says, are we not taking the trade-in allowance then?

It would be the trade-in allowance is only for these spin bikes. Oh, okay. So that was specific to those, I think, 13 spin bikes.

So 13 spin bikes are getting sent back to pre-court or whoever it is. That's right.

They're giving us an allowance. They're taking those back and getting us new units. Um, and we found, we did some research to see if we could see, you know, if we sold those outright, what we could get for them. And it really wasn't going to be, um, substantially more and the hassle of having to sort of move those ourselves as opposed to them, uh, just taking those away when they drop up the new equipment. But that's something we could look into if, if there's interest going a different route with those.

No, I don't think I know. I was just wondering like, yeah. Yeah. Like I get that. That's probably more of a headache than it is. Um,

Yeah, and every bike could come back at a different price. One could sell for $100 and another one could sell for $25. So this is a good option to get an average price.

Yeah, there's no guarantee. That's a good point. And those are new enough where they'll still give us a trade-in allowance on the spin bikes. The rest of the equipment being 15 years old, you can't source replacement parts anymore really for those easily. And so the auction is the best route there.

Makes great home gym equipment. Yeah, yeah.

Any other questions? I have a motion.

I can make a motion. I move to approve the purchase of Phase 2 MRAC fitness equipment utilizing Pacific Fitness Corp LLC state contract in the amount of $154,236 and authorize the mayor to sign the agreement.

Motion by Collin. Second by Miles. Discussion, Collin?

uh i i did a deep dive into all the equipment and and uh um i mean it is a they're they're good prices for what what seems like really great equipment and uh so yeah pat thank you for your work on this it's such a great facility and i know it's much loved by the community smiles

pretty much the same. I never quite imagined how much an electrical costs, but I think this is a great use of that state procurement process to be able to get a significant discount on each of these items and have some new equipment for the MRAC, which is direly needed. So thank you.

And something else worth noting is we've talked to a lot of patrons and users of the facility to get their feedback over the last few years after we got the first round of equipment. And so we're really basing some of our decisions on what we offer on those discussions with some of our patrons. So like, for instance, removing a few ellipticals and replacing them with stair steppers, which are really heavily sought after and kind of what people are using these days. And so we're trying to not only just replace, but also update and keep it relevant.

Thanks. Because I've noticed that I'm so grateful. I'm what and I know that more of my people in my circles are starting to go to MRAC. I'm curious if you are starting to see any trends, qualitative, quantitative about kind of the shifts at the MRAC and how that's affecting membership and visitation.

Yeah, we ran some numbers last year on just new memberships and they were up. And a lot of just the anecdotal feedback we're getting is that people are happy and that, hey, I used to go to a different gym and now I'm coming here because you guys have new equipment, it's clean, those type of things. We're getting a lot of comments like that. So we're definitely happy to hear it.

Anybody else?

Yeah, I was going to say, I'm just super appreciative that this is, I think, like one of the things that's showing the community, you know, where these wrap taxes are going, that these wrap taxes are being put back into the community, like, like what was promised, you know, and, you know, that up, that equipment was starting to look very ragged, you know, over the last few years, and it started, you started, it's looking better and better each, each year, and, and I think that that, you kind of shows, or it does show that we're investing back into the community we're investing in. And we have to thank the community for, one, approving this RAP tax and what this RAP tax is going to go to in the future. There's some, you know, great things on the horizon that is going to be neat to see. So thanks for spearheading this. Thank you.

All right. We've got a motion by Colin Segment by Miles to approve the purchase for Pacific Fitness Corps LLC for MRAC fitness equipment in the amount of $154,236. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes 5-0. Thanks, Pat. He's not going anywhere.

I'm not going anywhere.

So our next item is consideration of a contract award to Landmark Aquatics in the amount of $192,750 for the outdoor leisure pool Martha, Mertha, Liner. And this is a sole source contract because we have to use this particular contract.

group right yes yeah the mirtha liners uh proprietary liner so our that's what we currently have in our outdoor leisure pool in all of our pools um and there's only this is the only company in our area that's certified to install these liners and sell them It's pretty specialized equipment. CEM Aquatics, who originally installed our pools, is now Landmark Aquatics. So it's the same company. So they installed the original Mirtha liner over the last, and this is the 15-year-old original, again, piece of equipment and some of the underlayments. I believe it's foam, Ryan, behind me, probably to correct me on that. But it's starting to shrink and separate. So we've got these gaps right now, which become tripping hazards and things. And so this is just a needed,

replacement as the facility ages questions motion i can move to award the contract for the line of replacement in the outdoor leisure pool to landmark aquatics in the amount of 192 750 and authorize the mayor to sign the agreement motion by tani second second by jason discussion tani Do we have sufficient security to prevent vandalism?

I think so. The eight-foot fence has always done this. We don't have cameras out there, though, so I don't know if people are getting there. Water helps, too.

That's right. Jason, any discussion?

No, kind of ditto what I said on the last thing. This is the wrap tax in use. The wrap tax is a great use for it. I think, was it last year or something when they kind of evaluated it had over 300 pinholes in it? Is this the full liner that it was?

There was some leaking in the outdoor lap pool in some areas. And yes, in this one as well. And that'll help a lot with some of the attrition and some of the water that's seeping through some of the, you know, small holes, yes. Okay.

There was a lot of, at the seams, the underlayment was separating and creating little ditches along the liner and stuff like that. And I know staff was concerned about tripping and those types of things as well. Yeah, no, I think it's great.

Anybody else?

Yeah, for both this project and also mostly for the public with both of the outdoor pools, can you remind us of when these projects will be scheduled and when outdoor pools will be closed for summer and for construction?

Totally. That's a great question. So the outdoor leisure pool is open. It's scheduled to be open through September, which is we're fortunate enough. Ryan's been able to pull together enough staff through September to keep that open. I know a lot of pools close around Labor Day, the outdoor pool. So fortunate to be able to do that. And so then early, I think it's September. I'm sorry. Mid-October. So October 14th is when this work is scheduled to start. We're anticipating, but that's after the outdoor pools closed. There is some other work that's going to be happening at the indoor pool that could prompt like a week closure in mid October, but we're still working on scheduling that.

All right. Can I ask one question? Now, didn't you say that a while back or that we were, that you were able to save the, the water feature that we didn't have to replace that in terms of the slide and everything.

So yeah, it's still got several years left and,

Okay.

But it will need to be replaced at some point. Yeah.

I remember, I thought I remember it being like, this is critical to get it moved. We're going to have to change it. But then we kind of backtracked on that and said that it's actually okay. Yeah.

So we're actually going to remove that. It's in three large pieces, fiberglass. And so, you know, our pool staff did an incredible job, spent a ton of time refurbishing that rock. um to the point that it um you know it now has extended its lifespan we're thinking by at least five years so um we're going to remove that in three sections with a forklift put the new liner in and place that back on the same footprint um and you know and we do have some funds this year in in the budget to look at potential other features and things and so we're exploring that right now the clock would be good there you go we'll start there we'll start with the clock

anyway uh anything else all right we have a motion by tawny second by jason to approve the contract award to landmark aquatics in the amount of 192 750 dollars for an outdoor leisure pool martha liner all those in favor say aye any opposed mission passes by zero thank you and next up have DDAR. This is a consideration of a bid award to the By Brothers Construction LLC in the amount of $102,770.47 for the Spitfire Storm Drain Improvement Project. And this is basically we're going to connect their stormwater to our system on 100 West so it goes directly into the creek where now it's kind of just goes off into some private property. Yes, it's

That still goes to the creek, but this one will be right center of the creek in the floodplain. Um, so if I just going to give you, um, what is this project, um, as mayor mentioned, um, this, this, there is a single grade in front of the Spitfire. We are replacing that with the double grade inlet. So there will be, um, more capacity for the, um, uh, storm drain. This is the in-house design for, uh, so we didn't get, um, uh, consult engineers to help us with the design and, um, the challenge we had was the alignment from the inlet to the storm drain manhole there is a water main line so we have to loop it so that's actually the what is make this project more expensive than just regular storm drain tie-in. A lot of projects happen like that. So you're just thinking like, okay, I can just tie one to point the other point. And when you start designing, when you do survey, you realize there's other utilities, there are other challenges. So it's very, that's nature of the job. So we advertise August 12 and we did pre-bid on August 18. Five companies show up. We do those pre-bid meetings mandatory. So everybody who can bid need to show up on those meetings so they have familiarity with what we're expecting. So we got three bids. I posted on the agenda. The lowest bid was from the Bay Brothers. So we budgeted originally around $100,000 and our Engineering estimate was 135, so it was less than what we were expecting. We are happy with what we got as FBITS. So it's a 30-day substantial completion, and we have 45 days for the final complete. So that will include some of the removal of asphalt, concrete, which is a shared use pad, curb and gutter. And there will be some closures. or ADA access. So those are the challenges. The traffic control is the biggest challenge because 100 West is such a busy road. So those are the challenges we're expecting to have. And we're going to coordinate with Lisa and each of them will work with the contractor to finish this project as smooth as possible and before it gets too cold so we can patch the road and pour some concrete. Any questions? Questions for Dieter?

Will the road, is it going to be in sections or will that whole road be closed?

So I think we let the contractor to make those decisions. We told them that you cannot fully close. So when you demand too much from contractors, contractor, like not let them do the decision is usually more expensive. So what we can say that you cannot fully close so they can maybe channelize. Maybe they will have a flagger.

So down to one lane.

Yes. Yeah. So but we will take a look at them. They're going to prepare traffic plans, traffic control plans. We're going to review them. And there will be some water shutdown. We limited that one to eight hours and they have to coordinate eight days prior to water shutdown but we're not expecting that much that long but eight hours is the maximum they can shut the water not at one time or it's gonna be on one time it's a one one time maximum it is we're expecting to be quick if they are good at it they should be able to do like shut it everything is ready just install it um but as i say all this stuff is happens and they need to clean the pipe that kind of um make sure they're safe to turn the water on miles is there a projected start date for this So we like to do as soon as possible. So I think after we hopefully get approved, we're going to reach out to Bay Brothers and do a very slow procedure.

The cooler we get into the fall, the less people rely on that small cooler water and the more manageable water.

Well, also, too, there's some restaurants down there. So making sure that they're not affected during those times could be a big deal.

Yeah, so we can add additional valves. So what happens is like there's not enough valves in our water main. So you have to shot longer stretch versus just small. But anytime when we do a water projects, we add more valves to prevent that kind of.

And we work, we require the contractors to work with the restaurants, the businesses, to hang flyers, to give someone contact information so that people can let them know if there's a schedule that they need to have water. We don't want to interrupt people's businesses too much. And night work is also a potential. If that's too much to shut off water for too long for any number of customers, then they can always request to do it at night.

Or we think maybe it will take like a couple hours.

Will this impact the hotel, Best Western?

Best Western. I don't think it goes that far, but it's going to affect some main street businesses. Even if it's not there, as I say, just the Zacks on that stretch of that block, they will have some more opportunities.

What did this do as far as doubling the capacity of stormwater with the two grades?

There are two main things, yes. Sorry, I cut you off.

No, what's that? So there's two grades, but then the pipe itself is going to also be able to handle twice the capacity?

So there are two elements. One is we don't want water to shoot out on private property. We want to tie it to main. And then while we are... tying we increase in the capacity so um the important thing is yes um we have two um inlets and that um tied to the um our main 24 inch so you cannot increase it doesn't matter how much you increase if the 24 inch is that's your bottleneck yeah so we just max it out

Yeah, and I was facing to your point. I was thinking that maybe initially this was to address the flight down Center Street, but I think that that's far more significant than volume. And what this can address, and it is limited to that. Yeah, that's right. No, I'm actually, I've got a great attitude because I'm still in disbelief that We have an engineer estimate and then a cost came in $30,000 less than that. And so I don't don't get used to it. Yeah. And I'm sure here comes the change order now. So thank you. And I know that that is drainage is a big issue with that.

Yeah. And we have some contingency items. So maybe those are wouldn't happen. So it will be cheaper.

So, but any other questions for the door.

There's kind of adjutantly I'm curious where in capital projects is this more of a streets or more of like a dorm.

It's a stormwater and stormwater is an enterprise fund, we will be working on a new stormwater master plan soon that will try to catch some, we'll definitely catch these types of things. We'll have a list of these types of projects. This one was a nuisance and needed to be taken care of on a quicker order.

Anything else? I have a motion.

I'll move to award the contract for the Spitfire Storm Drain Improvement Project to Bay Brothers Construction LLC in the amount of $102,770.47 as presented by staff and authorize the mayor to sign the agreement motion by miles second by colin discussion miles uh i'll say it out loud after knocking on wood uh really love to see multiple bids come in on a project have the project come in underestimation and uh you know be making positive steps on that uh center street and that 100 west uh storm drain kind of situation over there obviously this is not the solution to all of that water management, but it is a step in the right direction. And I really appreciate how all this went down. Doing it in-house is fantastic. So thank you for all your hard work.

Thank you. Colin?

Done.

Anybody else?

No, I just want to echo it. That's exactly what I was thinking. You guys doing this in-house, I feel like we've turned this corner where we're actually able to... Save a lot of money for the community by doing these things in house and not having the farm about and then having these bits come in. It's amazing.

Thank you.

Thanks to you.

All right. Motion by miles second by Colin to consider the bid award to the by brothers construction LLC in the amount of $102,770 and 47 cents for the Spitfire storm drain improvements. All those in favor say aye. All right. Motion passes 5-0.

How long is this project going to be? We say 30 days for substantial completion and 45 days for maybe minor, finalized project. So we're expecting 45 days maximum.

Oh, okay. So probably, I guess what I'm thinking is we're right at the beginning of our fall busy season, so as much less impact that we can give to our businesses down there, the better.

Yes, definitely. I agree. Our challenge wasn't just the weather. We don't want it to be too cold and then leave the road open and not being paved. So we have to start as quick as possible.

All right.

Thank you. Thank you. Thanks.

all right next item 4.9 discussion regarding the moab area transit service as it relates to the arches shuttle this is something that we've talked about for a few months And I think we really need to have an open discussion in the public about how the Arches Shuttle could have positive or negative impacts on the Moab Area Transit. I know our focus, the involvement that I've had in the Arches Shuttle's discussion has been primarily how it's going to impact the mat and if there's funding available to help support the mat. then we want to be a part of that conversation. And Chairman McCandless is here from the County Commission. If we have any questions for her, she's here to answer those questions. I think you're here more for the MOU and probably to hear what our discussion is about today. But anyway, I just wanted to open up to you guys because, you know, here's your opportunity to let the public know what your position is on the shuttle and the low-up transit and how they can interact together.

And I think we're hiding back there. We've got Jared from UDOT.

So let's get started. Who wants to start the conversations?

I'll open this up. You know, I think that this is a discussion that's been going around for quite a few months, you know, and I think it's, we've talked about it as council, you know, separately, you know, myself and Chairman Canlis have had hours and hours of conversations about it. I've had hours of conversations with other people on the commission. And I think that this has never been, you know, like should ever be portrayed that Boab City does not support the transit, you know, which I think has come across as, but I think as for me, the one thing that I wanted to be very, forthright about is that in this whole transit discussions that our goal or our focal point should be residents and stuff. The county can deal with what they're dealing with, but as a city and with the use of the mat, it needed to be, our focus need to be on protecting the mat and making sure that the mat was sustained going forward into the future and that there was never a doubt or never on the plate of having one, you know, and maybe eliminating the other. And I think it's been very evident lately that we can't have one without the other. You know, that the mat is kind of the key to making the shuttle service work. And as we go forward, like, As a Boab City Council person, I feel my vested interest or my vested to the people of this community should be making sure that the mat succeeds into the future. And as we look to future funding, I think these two can go hand in hand. Chairman Kanlis and I have talked about that, that these things are based upon each other. and that we need to, I feel like, I support the shuttle and I hope that it succeeds and I hope that it, you know, it continues down the aisle and it does exactly what it's anticipated to do, that it relieves congestion, that it relieves all the stuff that they're planning on it doing. I think that is all great and stuff, For me, as a city, as representing the city, we need to rely on making sure that it's funded into the future for our residents and helping with congestion for people downtown and allowing people to get up and down Main Street easily, allowing people to get to work easily, getting people from hotels, using the... The on call, you know, show system or whatever it is, get back and that as we go forward in the future that You know that it's very much evident that we can't have one without the other the the or that the map, in my opinion, the math is where is the hill that is what I'm going to fight for, is making sure that stays and it sticks around and it's here for our residents. And with that, the shuttle system is built upon that to get people into arches to help relieve that congestion and do what it's doing there. But that's always kind of been my stand. I think that I've been wanting to kind of favor that. Right.

And just to emphasize, so everybody knows, I think you guys know, I don't know if you know, Mel, but next year we do not have the funding for the map that we're getting from UDOT right now. We're going to have to subsidize the whole thing. in the amount of $600,000 at the end of 27. I know we all want it to continue. And so if there's opportunities when we go back to Washington, when the County Commission goes back to Washington, we want to make sure that we emphasize that whatever is being requested for the Arches shuttle, that the mat is also part of that equation. So I just wanted to put that out there because I don't think people understand that we're going to have to put up all the money to fund the mat after next year.

so continue conversation yeah i will add to um you know it's important to me to um to uh to pair the mat with uh our downtown dispersed parking because i think both of these things are elements are um you know i i i guess i don't agree with jason necessarily that uh the Arches shuttle relies on the mat, but I do absolutely support the idea that this community does rely on the mat and that the mat's funding that Joette was just referring to, the mayor was just referring to that's running out was originally this hotspot funding that also funded our dispersed parking downtown that we've been hyper protective about. you know, as we see that this Arches shuttle being developed. And I think the county has been a good partner in this with the park. Lots of discussions for sure. But to me, you know, I, through all this, you know, I understand that these funding pots are limited, are finite. And I, you know, I think that, you know, as a council, we need to be looking out for Moab residents first and foremost. And I, you know, I would like to... You know, you know, in support of this pilot project also, you know, work with the county in the future of being sure that the funding for an Archer shuttle comes from outside of our community. And really, you know, probably be a better partner to the county and in those efforts, because I would like to be sure that that local money stays local and really benefits this community. You know, not in an abstract way of, you know, limiting congestion in the park and hoping that that generates more business, but just goes to the mitigation effects of mitigating the effects of tourism goes to, you know, making sure that our trails and pathways are maintained correctly and appropriately. and on schedule, you know, all these things, just being sure that local money does stay local. And, you know, for me, it's a tough one when Arches National Park is, you know, the cash cow that it is, and through its, you know, the revenues that that park brings in, you know, it can pay for the operating costs of all the Southwestern group. We've got a transit system right now that's on the verge of losing its funding. And we know through our data that it is absolutely servicing probably the more vulnerable communities in our larger community. And so I just want to be sure that, you know, as a council, the city is just fighting really hard to make sure that You know, not not hurt trying to hurt the efforts of the county with the archers shuttle, but to make sure that you know we're we're aggressively going after those those funding pots and making sure that that that the map remains sustainable and then also the you know. pairing that with the parking downtown, that we're also really protective of the benefits that the downtown corridor is already seeing from that increased parking. Businesses are seeing a huge amount of increased traffic and pedestrian traffic and people coming in their doors. And it's just been a really great economic year for our downtown economic center. Everything that I will be doing from this point forward will be really trying to protect those couple of things.

I will echo what Jason and Colin both said, that as a city council member, the funding for the mat will be my priority. I certainly do not want to see the Archer shuttle fail for any reason. I am not fond of the process that put it into place, but it is what it is. And I do hope it succeeds, but my priority will be funding for the mat. The city residents are my priority and have been and will continue to be. city residents in the greater community are where those tax dollars and those funds should be, in my mind, prioritized.

I guess, yeah, I definitely hear all of that and I agree. I think it's important for us to acknowledge that this is, I mean, this is hotspot funding. This is, the MAT was intended to address kind of tourism impacts on our community. It is also largely tourists that are using this facility. That's why we have on and off season with it. So do want to kind of acknowledge that Visitation is core to that success. And I agree that we should always be looking out for our residents and our visitors and keeping kind of like you know we we work for the city. I think I see the archers shuttle as an as an opportunity for the mat to expand. I think it's an opportunity for partnership with the county excuse me, and for collaboration, not for competition for funds. And so, you know, I think Jason and I with Chairman Canlis, you know, started talking about this this summer. I've kind of been pushing for this conversation tonight. So I'm appreciative that we're having it. I was glad to have been able to go on the shuttle today and experience it for myself. Because, yeah, I mean, I think that we've started talking about this for the last couple of years about how the city needs to plan for the planned phase out of hotspot funding. And so I think that we as a city are have opportunity to look for ways to expand ridership and partnerships through things like the Archery Shuttle. I mean, I'll be honest, I wasn't totally impressed with the process either, but I think it's here. I was really excited to be there today and I'm giving big kudos to the commissioners for pushing through and getting it done quickly. I think that was the theme of comments today was government doesn't normally move this fast. And I think that there are some pain points with that, but I really do want it to be successful. I think that the Arches shuttle provides opportunity for people to, for us to consider like a real regional transit system and for city and county to be partners. I think that that's the MOU that we're talking about tonight is, um kind of along the lines of a lot of conversations that we're going to start having about um you know shared parking facilities and you know looking to 27 and beyond who who takes leadership over these what does a partnership look like but i think pretty quickly especially since both are operated through via um I think that we do realistically need to start having conversations about starting to combine services. I think that I also am obviously going to support the mat as a council person. I will always be fiercely defensive of, and I think that it's a really amazing foundation for extending. But I don't, I don't think that it should be a, you know, a kind of competition or one protecting the other and that's kind of like fighting for. I really want to start conversations with the county about what shared resources look like, who takes those on, where does funding come from? Can we ask for that together? Can they compliment? Because I think that to be able to connect into Arches Is going to be an even bigger draw for people to use them, I think, to partner partner with the county and be able to have a fixture all the way out to rim to a road crossing or rim village or you know all the way out to the the business park in San Juan county. Those are you know things that people are using on our are on demand, a lot right now. So anyway, I but that's kind of where i'll start with this discussion but yeah.

Okay.

So I kind of boiling a lot of that down. I support a lot of what's been said. I want to start by saying, like, I think the way I feel about the Arges Shuttle more than anything is that it presents an interesting opportunity from several different perspectives, right? Several other national parks have implemented shuttle systems, and that has been beneficial to the conservation mission that the national park has had, which I think is positive. I think kind of speaking to what Caitlin is saying, we have an opportunity now to be collaborative and to attempt to build a system through this community that where the map, which of course is like everyone echoed, my focus as a city councilor, at the end of the day, that is the entity that we are interacting with. But at the same time, if we can work in concert with the shuttle, if we can reach for federal funds together and fund both programs and even expand the program that we have, because of this interaction, I think that's positive. I really think the mat does a lot for, you know, you mentioned it does that a lot of our visitors use it, but I really see a lot of what Colin mentioned, which is a lot of our more vulnerable communities using that to access care that they need to access groceries and, you know, doctor's appointments, you name it. And I really think it's important to hang on to that. So I think we need to be open to how we can work together to fund these things. I don't see it as much as a competition for funds as I see it as an opportunity to reach for funds that may not have been available to either one of us individually. I think I will say one of my points of consternation and a sticking point over the, since we're talking about Arches shuttle holistically is I do think Greater discussion needs to be made about routes and how they integrate with Matt routes and otherwise I am somewhat concerned about our downtown parking and about our, the potential congestion that having one of the main pickup points being at the information center could have. We just built a lot of parking, as Colin mentioned, and our local business owners are really grateful for the fact that there is more availability for people to come down and patronize their businesses. And I am concerned, and I'm going to watch closely as we go forward, how... the effect of having that MAC pickup point downtown really does weigh or not weigh upon our businesses. Are people really walking from the hotels to get picked up or do we need to rethink that? I know that in previous iterations of this, there was a discussion of having a main interaction point between the MAT and between the Arches Shuttle further north of town where more parking could be available and where we could have like a transfer center, so to speak. I know that now it's been implemented at the information center and I'm just really curious and really intend to be vigilant about how that affects our downtown and how that does or does not reach the goals that our downtown master plan has. Because I think that's really important and could be really impactful to our community. I have high hopes for the Arches shuttle. I really do think that it could fit well in our community. It could fit the conservation effort of the park and it could, you know, provide that holistic benefit of giving people a different option for accessing the park. Um, but I think it needs to be done carefully. And I think, you know, as a city counselor, I'm going to be weighing how, how these things affect our community and how we can, um, speak for the shuttle that we provide to our community and its integration, but really how do we preserve it as well?

So funding for transit for operations is very, very limited. Michael and I just met with the Serta folks last week, and we're working with them on a regional transportation plan for all of eastern Utah. And they basically told us there's no money to operate transit service. However, There is funding through the Department of Transportation through the National Park Service. It's called the Federal Lands Transportation Fund. And that money can be used for public transit to provide access into the park. And so I know the county is going back and they're going to be meeting with some of these folks back in Washington. And I would hope that they would say, you know, we have an opportunity to also fund our current transit service. And maybe we can consolidate it and get some funding so that we can expand our service into the park to the visitor center. I don't think we as a city have an interest in being involved in what happens inside the park other than getting people from downtown. to the visitor center and back downtown. And so I think there's a way for us to do that, but we need to be in partnership. We need to be in coordination with the county. And there is funding available through the National Park Service Department Transportation Fund to do that. hopefully we can have a conversation about that. And I have drafted a letter that I'd like to, we can talk about when we meet next week that we could share with our delegation and with the park service and with commission. Also keep in mind, this is a pilot. The Arches Shuttle is a pilot, just like the Moab Transit. is a pilot. And so they're just starting their pilot. Our pilot has been proven to be successful and it's been proven to be a need within our community. And if there's a way that we can get some funding that allows us to expand that service, this would be the time for us to be paying attention to how the Arches Shuttle works. And Mel and I have talked about this, and I think I've brought it up with you all. You know, we always, there's all this conversation about duplication of services. We're not going to need an Arches shuttle and a map. If this all, I mean, and we're kind of going, I'm kind of thinking this is going to be, Arches shuttle is going to be successful. It's going to happen. But I don't see that we're going to need a van. you know, a map van and an Arches shuttle van circulating through downtown. So I see a way for us to really make it work together, but who's going to be the, one to operate it. We don't need the county operating the shuttle. We don't need the city. You know, we need to have one entity do it so that we don't have this duplication of services, in my mind. And so this pilot that we have for the next two months and then the spring following will really give us an idea of how we can make that happen. And so, Mel, I hope that we can sit down as a city and a county and kind of work out some of the things that you guys learned and how what we've learned with the MAT and how we can integrate them together. So that's just my take on it for you guys to be thinking about. Yes, Colin.

And I think that that is where the greatest opportunity is. I mean, we know from our data that we've been collecting for the last, what, eight years with the mat that, you know, tourists are not riding the mat. You know, our on-demand service, which, you know, almost entirely, you know, services locals, and we see that. We see huge bumps at 8 and 9 a.m. and at 4 and 5 p.m. We know that people are taking this on-demand service to and from work. A lot of service industry people, we know that it's servicing locals. We have had such a challenging time that the data shows this, that getting our fixed route to have any sort of significant ridership, and that's the one that's going around to the hotels and You know, at very regular intervals. And, you know, somebody a community member just said that to me yesterday said, you know, do we need two different color vans driving around empty around town. And we don't. And I think that that's really where the opportunity is. And there's an opportunity is, you know, Our fixed route, we've been really struggling with figuring out how to get people onto that. And we've been working with hotels, and I know that the county has also been, we're talking to hotels. That's where I see the greatest opportunity in this. So, yeah.

And unfortunately, our work with the hotels has not been successful. We've met, you know, the math has been in the works for five years. And every year when we get our report, we say, you know, where, what are the hotels? Are they providing information? I'm assuming that they are, but I think it can be better.

Well, I think it has a lot to do with lead times and with the math, we have a very big lead time turnaround time with the shuttle. It's, it's much, much closer. And I think people, people at hotels, they want to know that when they're done, it's only going to be 15, 20 minutes until they can get on the bus again to go back home. Not an hour. Right.

Yeah, and I mean, you know, I guess I said I disagreed with Jason, but I can't actually see that connection that, you know, what we're trying to do is separate people from their cars. And it's, you know, for Americans, it's an impossible, almost impossible task. You know, we've had such low visitation from Europeans this summer, which I think would have been a really wonderful opportunity for the Arches shuttle. But... You know, I think that, you know, combining these two services, I think there's a great opportunity to really, really, you know, fine tune the messaging that, you know, when you come to Moab, you really can have an adventure and see all the sites in Moab without your vehicle. And so, you know, and then as we work with, you know, getting, you know, the rail line in and even coming closer to town and all these things that, you know, better air service, everything that we're, you know, independently working on. we're really creating the environment and the messaging of, you know, that you can come to Moab and really leave your vehicle at a hotel for a week and see all the sites or just not even come in a vehicle to Moab, so.

I mean, I was just going to, you know, kind of cap that off and point out like, I really do think we have two services that we're discussing discussing, we have a service that is getting people into the park, and then we have a service that is intrinsic to our community that is getting people to work and is getting people to their doctor's appointments in the grocery store if they can't drive, and whatever that happens to be and so I think As we discussed this, that's kind of why I'm talking about partnership and collaboration, because we want to keep both services alive, right? At the end of the day, we want to make sure that people have an avenue to get to work when they don't have a vehicle or that day that your vehicle breaks down and that that exists. But then having this new system could be incredibly beneficial as well. So how we find that middle ground, I think, is going to be really important in making sure that that burden You know, between everything from the parking to the money spent on it is considered carefully and allocated appropriately. I think it's really important. Jason.

Yeah, just kind of go along with that. I think, you know, as we kind of everything said has been, I think, like spot on. But as we're going forward, also, we need to we need to look and see like. think the county's kind of as part of their proposal you know is um if the shuttle system is successful which we all hope it is um and it grows and grows and grows you know um And that demand grows and grows and grows. How are we going to deal with that demand? We're going to run out of parking downtown for people that are downtown, for people that are taking the transit. So is this collaboration with the county for this parking garage the idea? Is there another place for a parking garage? How are we going to fund this parking garage? How is the city going to fund it? I remember when we first started discussing hotspot funding, that it was that hotspot funding only comes around Once every five years or something like that, you know, and it's only once.

Yeah. Is there going to be hotspot funding again, Jared? This is the round that you're working off of this 2017. Right. So it's been nine years.

Yeah. So, so, but us as a city, you know, like, hey, next year, we got a $600,000 bill that we, we got to come up with and we don't have the money for that. You know, and so are we going to lose the math after next year because we can't fund it? You know, and to me, this is and if we can collaborate with the county to keep the math alive, that needs to be our focus, you know, because and then and then as the shuttle system grows and grows and grows, you know, what does that funding look like, you know, We don't have money for one year. What does it look like in five years? That $600,000, I assume in five years, is going to be a million dollars with inflation and everything like that. We have some big questions that we don't have answers to. Our low-hanging fruit is just keeping them alive for the next year or two. I think we have to have the counties on board to help us make that work. We can team up.

kill two birds with one stone you know it's beneficial to the community go ahead yeah i agree and and that's kind of where my thinking was because i mean realistically like i'm going to say scary stuff like for me what i'm thinking about the city alone driving them at especially if we're thinking of it as mostly a community resource we're talking property tax we're talking potentially sales tax, we're talking fees for service, bus fare. Those are how locals pay for things. And I don't think that's what any of us want to do. And so I think it behooves us really to be talking with the county and with the park service and taking advantage of parks like specific funding, like what you're talking about with DOT. to have tourists pay for this on behalf of the community i think as we're yeah i'm excited to start talking about downtown um because i think we have we're looking at parking and where it should and shouldn't go and i think the more that we can transition toward public transit actually active transportation what mob's known for um that also means that we need public public transit service and so all of that is like getting more and more visitors to actually use our service know what it is know they can actually go to arches know that they can take you know maybe 50 years from now 20 years from now they can go all the way to canyon lands on a bus who knows but yeah I mean I think that it's we need to start having some really hard conversations about transportation in general. And so I think the shuttle for me has kind of been a push on like, you know, we need to head kind of in that direction to take advantage of what the county has put in place. And, you know, I think also it's not my decision or my authority, but, you know, I think also the county pushing the parks to implement this and test it out within the park itself. I'm hopeful for the county that they can look at um not necessarily operating within the park but kind of looking more regionally and like be proud of you know the work that they did to push the shuttle into the park and kind of see like how we all work together long term in that way too

I think it's important for us to understand also that local transit services are not moneymakers. So we're always gonna have to subsidize it to some extent. But like you said, 600,000 will be a million in five years, and that's a lot. So a lot of conversations to have. I have drafted a letter. I will send this out to you. I believe I sent it to you, Caitlin. I'll send it out to you guys. When we meet next week, we can have a deeper conversation if this is something that we would like to send out to our delegation and the Park Service and to the Department of Interior, Utah Department of Transportation. to get it out there when the county commissioners go back to Washington so that they can understand where our position is and that we do recognize the importance of an Arches shuttle, but our main focus is to maintain our service within the town and how we can build off of that to help support getting people into the park. So anyway, I'll send that letter out to you guys, and then when we meet next week, we can have a deeper discussion about it. Is there anything else anybody would like to say?

I just want to say I think it's important that we are in support with this with the county in going forward.

Yeah, I guess I have a specific question to about I know we'll talk about the MOU, but I guess as more specific things come up with with crossover services. Yeah, I am relying on staff to resolve most of those, but also wondering if there is kind of, you know, end of season, end of this fall season, if we can have like a bigger check in on this MOU or other kind of agreements we need to have in place for spring, any kind of resetting we need to do for March.

I think, Caitlin, there's, I think the agreement you guys have sets a date like November 16th to meet with the Park Service to kind of do a debrief on how it went in september october and to start thinking exactly what you're talking about is what adjustments need to be made in the spring am i correct mel and so i think there will be an opportunity and hopefully we'll be invited to participate in that as well and then functionally we're going to talk about the mou in a minute but that is built in that we talk to each other um it's it's not like super formal or anything like that but if we notice something we're going to talk to them if they notice something they're going to talk to us

And then we can, I think it's a great idea to have something a little more formal in the interim between the first session and the second session.

The fall and the spring.

I like session.

Anything else on this topic? All right. So when we meet next week, if you agree to, you know, we modify this letter, we'll have it on our agenda for our next meeting. And then have more discussion at that time. So that moves us to our last item of business, consideration of MOU between the City of Moab and Grand County Shuttle Stops and Visitors Parking for the Moab Arches Shuttle Pilot Project. You've all seen the MOU. We did have some changes. Mark got back to us today and said that you were all fine with the red lines that we have. And so unless there's some questions, I'll just ask for a motion.

I only have one thing. I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a smart person. But there's one section where it says that if there's an issue, somewhere in here it says that if there's a problem, that the city manager and the county administrator will meet. Sorry, I can't, it's on, it's in here.

The county administrator and city manager will confer as often as necessary or needed regarding matters involving the shuttle? Is that?

Yes. And then, but like, I wondered if it should say, like, we'll meet in, is it just understood that they'll resolve the issues or that?

Yeah. I think so. I mean, that would be the point. Um, and you know, they, Mark has been pretty proactive in the, in a few phone calls I've had with him and has already straightened out a couple of little things. Uh, I don't, I don't have any concerns about being able to resolve the issues. Again, this MOU is, is a non-binding agreement anyways. It's just the, it's a kind of a letter of intent. You know, we intend to do this. You intend to do that. We understand each other. Um, And I think we do understand each other. And like the mayor said, I heard today from Mark that the county is fine with the changes. I think they're pretty benign. MOU was pretty good to begin with. So I recommend you authorize me to sign it and we move forward.

I think the biggest concern is of course, taking away parking downtown. Absolutely. And so we'll see, I imagine we're not going to see a lot of that in September and October because it hasn't been pushed out there. But in the spring, you know, once there's been time for more conversation and more marketing and that kind of signage and that kind of thing goes up spring next year is probably when we'll see any impacts from that. But, you know, I think the major concern that we have with the parking is is core downtown parking. Absolutely.

Yeah, I think they understand that that's our concern. Right. And we'll be keeping an eye on it.

All right. Can I have a motion? Unless there's anything else?

No.

No? No motion? No motion.

No motion. Isn't it here? I move to approve the proposed MOU with Grand County and authorize the city manager to sign the MOU.

Motion by Jason, second by Collin. Any discussion, Jason?

No, I was just going to say that I appreciate you sharing this with us, and I know that it kind of put a pickup in the process of getting this done. But I think that I was very appreciative of it because I think that I know that, like, During this whole process, I've kind of felt like I've been not really knowing what's going on, you know, not because I shouldn't know or should know or not know and stuff, but just being part of this was great to be able to just kind of read this and to talk about it and stuff because I do and I have been getting a lot of questions in and around the town. People are like, well, what about parking downtown? I'm like, I don't know. You know, and stuff. And so, like, bringing us in on this part and letting us see this and saying that, hey, we see this. We approved it. You know, this is what it's going to look like. I think it helps us support the process and helps support what, you know, what is trying to be accomplished with the shuttle system. Yeah.

Same under normal circumstances. I mean, we absolutely trust you to execute these MOUs, you know, at a staff level. But, you know, just these aren't ordinary circumstances. And there's just a lot of, you know, a big spotlight on this whole process. And so really appreciate you bringing it to us.

Anybody else? I'll second all that this parking is going to be something that we need to watch closely, because it does affect so many people in our Community, so this is a good start, this is a pilot program. You know it's about watching what happens and making sure that it still benefits our Community and that there are no onerous detractors.

All right, I have a motion by Jason second by calling to approve the mo you between CD mo up in grand county regarding shuttle stops and visitor parking. or the Moab Arches Shuttle Pilot Project. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes 5-0. There you go. Melody, if you want to leave, you can leave and we won't hold it against you. Although you just announced it to everybody. I just wanted her to not feel awkward if she got up and walked out.

Does that mean Jared has to stay?

We're going to hit him up with a hot spot. So next we'll move on to city manager updates.

Okay, so I've got a few things to update you on this week. Last week we had the audit taking place at City Hall. It's an annual event. Usually takes a little bit of time, but they spend two days here going over our books, asking questions. You did the fraud risk assessment that Summer and I filled out. And we're feeling pretty good about things and we appreciate you taking a look at that appreciate summer and all the hard work she's done to get the audit going and to keep it going. So we hope to present that to you at at the soonest possible opportunity, which is probably still a little bit of time away a couple months away from now. So, yeah. um the sidewalk project so we've got a lot of sidewalks being done in the downtown mainly on main street i drove around today and i mean if you drive around at all you've seen them all but Really impressed with the work that they've been doing. It's a huge improvement to see these heaving sidewalks be all of a sudden flat and walkable and ADA compliant, all that kind of stuff. So really excited about the work that they're doing. They're just going to keep on moving along. They're, I believe, just past the Cactus Jacks right now working in front of the hotel and then they're going to be moving down to First North and Main Street on the west side of the street right after that. We've got a couple of events coming up. Center Street Ball Fields. We're working on a redesign for that project, for that property. And we have an open house coming up on September 16th, 5 to 7 p.m. And I didn't write down the location. It's at the Grand Center. It is at the Grand Center. And we hope to get people's feedback on what they would like to see at this park. We're very much... in the mindset of tell us what you want to see here. We have a consultant who's prepared some drawings just to get the juices flowing, but we wanna hear what you want. We wanna hear what you think would be the best thing over here, whether it's the exact same thing that we have now, or changes, radical changes or minor changes. We'd love to hear those things. So that's September 16th at the Grand Center, 5 to 7 p.m. Our consultants will be there as well as our staff. And we'd love to hear comments from the public.

Michael, do you have an update on how much traffic our survey has gotten? I don't.

But I'm sure it'll be 400, sounds like. Good amount. It's respectable. Lions Park River Access Study is another project that's going on right now. And September 11th, we're going to be having an arts and ag at Suwannee Park. We will have the consultants for this Lions Park River Access Study tabling there from 5 to 8 p.m. We'll also have Val there who snuck out earlier. He'll be talking about water considerations, water conservation, water time restrictions, anything related to water conservation at that event. So we'd love to hear from the public on what they think about the river access at Lyons Park, as well as stop in and get some useful information about water conservation from Val over there. A couple more things. We were lucky enough to attend a public safety building presentation on the jail and the new parking structure that's being, I guess we can say, during the visioning process right now. The county invited us to the meeting and we were able to view that. I know Jason was there and I know Caitlin was there. Your guys' name tags are... interchange I almost called you I almost called you Colin I'm keeping this one sometimes sometimes I rely on those but um So, no, just to, you know, just confirmation. But I provided a letter to the county just last week, just stating that, you know, we're excited about the process, but it is a process. We'd love to be involved and look at the process from where they are now, because we've got lots of things to consider with projects like this that go through our development review team, sewer, water, transportation active transportation sidewalks intersections you know all that kind of stuff not to mention zoning and stuff like that we just we just think it would be a good idea to to chat and i got a good response back from mark so hopefully we'll be talking soon on that i just wanted to bring that up with you guys i sent a copy to all you guys already so you probably already know The striping contract is underway. You may have seen a lot of the good work that they're doing out there. Last week, they were focused on Fort North. Apparently, today, they were down on Fort East, and we're able to finish a lot of that up. This is a lot of high-impact striping that we're seeing, and I think it's going to be a really good improvement to the community in a lot of different ways and hopefully enhance safety for cyclists and pedestrians at Crosswalks. So,

Are they just doing the green? Are they going to do the other striping? Because it's not just the, I mean.

On, on 4th East, they're doing the center, the yellow lines, they're doing the bike lanes. Yeah, they're. They just did the green.

Yeah, they're, they're, there's a lot of striping that they're doing. They might be coming back and doing some of that, but it's not just the green. There's a lot of fog line, a lot of.

bike lane striping a lot of bike lane symbols center all that kind of stuff plus crosswalks there's a few new crosswalks going in with the thermoplastic so yeah that's my update I guess also flagging before doing like doing striping after the storm drain that we just approved that's like similar area if we're already going to cut up the street yeah

Oh, yes, we are. We are definitely going to cut up the street after some new striping has been done. It's only paint. We're not doing the expensive stuff. There's no diamonds or anything like that in it. So the thermoplastic is the expensive stuff. The paint, it's really lasts a couple of years anyways. So we do understand that we are putting down paint and then planning to tear up the road. But we're planning to tear up. Like, for instance, 4th East is in the next couple of years, not in the next couple of weeks. We do have some minor projects, smaller projects where we'll see some, I guess, degradation to the road and the striping, but the contractors will do striping afterwards to fill that back in.

Is that it?

Yep.

Thank you. Miles? Yes.

This is my easy week. Other than that, basically I had planning and zoning. That was the only thing I did between the last meeting and this one. They saw landscape exception. They saw the phase two of Hamasa that we just heard from. And otherwise, there's not a lot on their agendas worth speaking up about. They have a potential special meeting coming up that I'll try to attend. But otherwise, I... have been doing my best to involve myself with some of the community to talk about some of these things we discussed tonight. And I'm really glad to see this conversation. So yeah, thanks. Caitlin.

Well, I was out for the last meeting, was doing some travel, so it's just the last week or so. I was up at the Housing Matters conference in Midway, and there's a lot of conversation about attainable housing and senior housing, I think aging in place, and kind of a lot of the things that we're talking about here with major themes, so excited to look into some New funding sources for. The city. Thinking about funding I sat next to Deborah and she asked about if the city is going to put together an archive project so. i'll pass it to you okay. And at last Thursday, on the 3rd, I had the pleasure of, on behalf of the Grand County Local Homeless Council, we, Mob City, hosted Mr. Tyler Clancy, who is the new Office of Homeless Services Director for the state. We did a site tour, a series of tours through several of the city's community partners and kind of anchor members of the local homeless council. So we started at the free health clinic and then went to multicultural center and then to Seacaven and then to Four Corners. And then we came here and had lunch and discussion and then went to a crossing and did a driving tour of all of the multifamily and affordable that's coming up through town. He was very impressed to see the new King Creek Boulevard as we were driving by the Amasa Apartments. I just generally really emphasized how impressed he was with how much We in Moab Grand County are really collaborating with each other and are all taking care of each other and are stretching dollars as far and as fast as we can. And I think that our partners here are really good advocates to him that rural homelessness looks very different and we need different resources and we need more resources. I thought it was productive. I'm excited to see what he does in his role And otherwise, I attended Mo's music festival show, which I'm always really excited to see what, you know, all of our rap tax grants, what they support, and it's always very fun to engage in those. And then just wanted to remind the community, next week is Mo Hub Pride Week, starting Monday through Sunday of next week, the 14th through the 21st. I believe there are events every day. A lot of them are at city parks and spaces. And so it's always also very meaningful that the city is a good host for Moab Pride. So yeah, keep a lookout for those.

Do you think, you know, this year we did a proclamation for Moab Pride Month. I wonder if we want to switch it up and do one for Moab Pride Week in Moab. I don't know. You guys talk about it. Let me know what you think.

Yeah, I think the one that we did this year acknowledges, acknowledges both. But I can reach out to the organizers if you want to say something at the Sunday Cabaret brunch at Spitfire, for example. We'd love to have you. But yeah, or the Black Party on Friday night. I'll talk to the organizers.

Will you email me that?

Yeah. Absolutely. Happy to. That'd be great. And that's about it for me. Thank you. Thanks, Caitlin. Colin?

On the 26th, the day after the last meeting, we had a spring spruce up planning meeting, set the date for April 3rd. Coincidentally, one of the topics of discussion was looking for corporate sponsors. for this event because the event certainly has grown to a level where it's hard to sort of coordinate through the existing funding mechanisms. And we'd like to, and we certainly have a model that can continue to be scaled up. And so please, please keep us in mind, keep Spring Street up in mind as we talk about different events or different ways that some of these corporate partners can work with our community On the 28th, I had a bike access torches meeting. We're working now to put together sort of the big picture plan and then sort of prioritize out, not sort of, but prioritize out the stage implementation approach. But it's starting to look really cool and there certainly seems to be a good bit of demand and there are a lot of great partners at the table with just approaching better access for bikes into the national park. On the 31st, I went to the Open House Transportation Safety Action Plan meeting. I they've they really distilled down all the remedies and all these different sort of hotspots in town different hotspots and funding, but just these these sort of challenging transportation. pots pot points in town. And the plan looks really great and I think they've come up with a some some really, really great ideas with a lot of Community and it was really great the Community seem to be. really excited about a lot of these you know i think that the term roundabout even came up without somebody getting their head torn off um so it's the community might be even coming around to that idea um but but a community member after i was a community member who after the event i asked them what they thought of it and uh you know, this, this person, um, said, well, you know, I just sort of gruffly that it just seems like another plan that's going to sit on a shelf. Um, but it looked really good. And I, I disagree. I think that, uh, you know, as we're talking about, um, the fourth East and Mill Creek intersection and the sand flats and Mill Creek intersection, you know, these are intersections that we are, um, we're going to be looking at, we have to be looking at in the next couple of years, um, because of all the development that's happening south of town and just the existing condition of these intersections being really dangerous and over capacity, we now have these amazing templates and amazing plans for these. And so I think that a plan that was funded through grant funding is now gonna really inform a lot of our big infrastructure projects coming forward with these particular intersections. So I really appreciate the work that was done. I on the second Kelly and I were joking about this, but I got to participate in a multi use path etiquette real filming that had that happened. There were several of us that was there, Val, you know, just, I mean, I'm just gonna say that there was some amazing acting that happened and that you know that when this reel hits social media it is going to explode it's going to be viral for sure that's the right term right yeah michael yeah yeah yeah it was really fun and i uh and and more than anything i just i big kudos to to kelly and christine i mean they're just so much fun and creativity went into this and i you know i hope that we see a ton more of this stuff because it's just going to be uh we're just just really neat and really informative and um yeah great work And then on the 8th, we had a trail mix meeting today. The thing that I want to report that's relevant to some of our conversations is that while we didn't get Arches visitation numbers for the entirety of August, we did hear from the Park Service that it was much slower than years past Labor Day weekend.

Really?

Yeah, it sounds like the part that was very noticeably slower.

Didn't seem like it in town.

We saw it, yeah. Yeah, I think it's just going to be after this spring. I think it's just going to be really fascinating to see what the trends show us. I mean, Search and Rescue reported a trail mix still there at record numbers for the year. And so, yeah. You know, people are certainly still going up left hand and jumping into the water. Huge numbers.

Landing on a rock.

Yes. And then I just, again, just riding my bike down here tonight, just seeing the striping happening on, on 4th East. It's really, it's happening. It looks great. You know, City Cruise, Beecham's out there. It's all, it's great to see that, that happening so quickly.

Is that it?

That's it.

Tawny. I didn't have any meetings since our last meeting. Next week, or next meeting, I should have some. Jason?

I'll open the couch. No, do you think so? I attended the public safety meeting, like Mike said, with Caitlin. It was... Big plans were proposed for that. August 27th, I attended an EMS budget committee meeting, which is the first one of many this fall. There's good attendance to that and kind of come up with what needs to happen in the next year for Grant County EMS. August 28th, I had a meeting with Miles and Commissioner Hedin and Sheriff Wiggins to discuss the public safety building. And they, you know, wanted to address some concerns that Miles and I had as well. And as well as hear some of the concerns that we had going forward and what, and if we could come to any sort of agreement you know on that but that's probably there'll be more discussions on that i think in the um you know with commissioners and everybody that's involved with that um and then um august 31st 31st i had i went to the open house for the safe streets for all it was great yeah i can't say anything more than what um colin said because it was spot on On September 8th, which is today, I attended a Tribal Council meeting and it was a lot going on. It was like this three ring circus of like, there was a lot of people from the state down here. They were taking tours of the park at the same time that the Tribal Council is having a meeting, meeting with the advertising agencies and all the different groups about the advertising for next year. And there's some absolutely incredible things coming out. that will be neat to see. And I think that what the tribal council is doing is next level. And I think that there'll be some great benefits from it. Some numbers that they were kind of coming out now from some of the numbers that were presented, For future, or these are reservations in the future for rooms that we'll see kind of comparing this year to last year is October room reservations are predicted to be up 5.9%. November, they're predicted to be up 30.9%, so 31%. January, 28%. In March of next year, 38.4%. How do they know that?

How do they know what's going to happen next year?

I can't tell you. So the advertising agency that they work with is able to pull numbers once a month from bookings.com. They work with them and pull metrics of who's booked reservations for areas and compare those reservations to last year. That's I'm not going to.

Yeah, no, that's whatever.

And then I don't know where I'm going next week. March.

The striping is looking great. I was able to ride my bike up north today and I found that the green really brings out the cracks. You know, you feel better and maybe just go like. We need to repay Fort North as I ride my bike out of it today. Well, you need to ride a fatter tire bike. It's just the PSIs.

Gravel bikes, man.

So, EMS, are we going to be jointly presenting to the county commission for the ask for the real health sales tax? Because I believe we need to be there next week, right? The 15th is when you guys want us to present. By the way, Chair McCandless is still here. We'll do it together.

It was proposed to leave it the same as it was this year, right? Okay. All right. Good. I just wanted to make sure.

Okay. That's all I have.

All right. Thank you.

I had a meeting with CERTA, as I mentioned, to talk about regional transit service. I also was able to meet with the homeless coordinator, Tyler Clancy, with Caitlin. That was really informative. He's really interested in our community and understands that our homeless issue is a lot different than the Wasatch Front. And that's really important because a lot of times, They don't understand that up at the state. So I really liked him. I thought he was really interested in what we're doing. So appreciate you coordinating that meeting. Let's see. I went to the Recovery Day event that was really well attended. It's really touching how many people, participants in that appreciate the city supporting recovery. So that was a really heartwarming event to go to. And then on Friday, I was involved in a filming with the Western Energy Alliance. The Western Energy Alliance is a lobbyist organization for energy development in the Western United States. I've worked with them in the past when I was with the Friends of Arches and Canyonlands. They did a fundraiser for us. So I got to know them and they reached out because we are, they're lobbying Congress to reauthorize the legacy restoration fund, which was authorized through the Great American Outdoors Act in 2016. It was only funded for 10 years and funding went away and it hasn't been reauthorized. So they came and asked me if I'd be willing to talk about how that fund is so important to our community. And just to give you an idea, That fund funded $35 million to Canyonlands National Park to rehabilitate portable water supply and distribution systems within the park. It also funded Swayze Campground up in Green River. It also funded Poison Spider Trailhead. um hamburger rock campground i mean there's a whole list of things also on the forest service so it's a really great funding source that we really want to get reauthorized through the national park service so i did this film talked a little bit about how multi-use is important including oil and gas development out on our public lands along with recreation That film will be presented to Congress after the first year after the election to try to get them to move this legacy restoration fund forward. So that was fun. I was walking down the street. They had me just walk down the street, pretend like I was just walking down the street, which isn't easy to do, and ran into Caitlin. People on Main Street saw me and waved and was like, it's the mayor. It was fun. It was a lot of fun. And then, let's see, what else? Yeah, she did, because they had this little contraption. It was really interesting. Anyway, we finalized the contract with Elevate today for the MAPS campus completion and was able to meet with them and give them a little history about the MAPS project. So that was good. Excited to bring them on. And then just so you know, and I want to kind of give a... hand count we've got the state treasurer marlo oaks and the state auditor tina cannon who will be here next wednesday at city hall at 11 o'clock i know tony you said you weren't going to be able to make it miles won't be able i'm hoping the rest of you guys will be able to be there so the four of us will be there great and that's all i have okay can i say something really quick i just want to say something says jared and levi are both here I know. Everybody's stuck on Patrick Kelly. We must be excited.

I don't know which department is it, but the highway going south of town out to the bridge, it's just recently been getting swept, and it's great. It is so nice. Who's taking credit? Thank you. Levi. You did it. It's good. Thank you.

All right. With that, we do have three items of closed session that we need to go into. So if I can have a motion to go into closed session and cite 7.1, 7.2, and 7.3. Can I have a motion? Did you read it?

It's a motion to go into closed session for the purposes of discussing the purchase, exchange, or lease of real property, the sale of real property, and reasonably imminent and or pending litigation. Motion by Caitlin.

Seconded by Jason. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes.