City Council - Regular Meeting

All right, welcome everybody. Great to see so many people in the audience this evening. I'm going to call the Moab City Council meeting to order on February 10th at 6:02 p.m. And we'll start with a pledge. And Caitlyn, I'm going to ask you to lead us to our pledge. I pledge to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.

All right, we have two presentations this evening. First, we have an update from CC Haven. Abby Taylor's here to present that. A lot of really good stuff going on at Sea Haven and since they are one of our partners, I thought it would be great to get that update. So, thanks Abby. A couple of reports if you guys share those and you can have them after. Sorry, I don't have enough for everybody. Awesome.

Um, hi everybody. My name is Abby Taylor. I'm the executive director of Caven. Um, I'll quickly share some of CQN's history, give some updates to our current programming and our expansion trajectory. We, um, were established in 1990 and we provide survivor centered advocacy and shelter services to individuals impacted by domestic violence and sexual assault. We serve Emory, Grand, and San counties, as well as individuals from the Navajo Nation and the General Four Corners region. In 2025, we reached nearly 400 survivors, provided over 100 shelter stays, contracted over 750 counseling sessions, provided financial aid to over 90 households, totaling over a4 million dollars in assistance. Um, I love sharing how much money we we provide to the community, but um I feel like our staff's time will always be our greatest and most important resource. In addition to serving survivors of abuse, CE provides prevention education in the community. Here we provided um presentations, trainings, other things to over 5,000 individuals reaching um most of those reaching folks in specialized groups um which include local youth, tourism industry, workforce and the local indigenous community. These are groups that for various factors uh faced disproportionately high risks of violence or harassment. CC given as a team of 22 trained individuals from four m in across four major departments admin and operations advocacy shelter and prevention. The majority of our team has looked experiences which we consider an expertise.

Beyond our team, we collaborate with uh numerous entities on local, regional, and statewide levels. We believe in taking a multid-disciplinary approach to violence response and in meeting our clients needs. Um I could talk about that for an hour, but I want to focus on one specific team in particular. Uh Caven, the Grand County Attorney's Office, Mob City Police, and the victim assistance unit was selected to participate in the Institute of Coordinated Community Response Program. Our team is one in four cohorts that were selected across the nation. To date, we have done a lot of great stuff. Uh we hoof hoofed it to Dallas, Texas for a conference on crimes against women last May and we're planning on going again um this May. We've completed two training sessions from nationally recognized experts and have another training next week. We conducted case file reviews and completed case mapping activities to identify strengths and areas for improvement. Our team is preparing to create a formal coordinated community response team and soon we'll invite more members to participate. We'll create a formal meeting schedule and um goals and objectives. Recently we've had many big wins. Um we were selected as the sexual assault service provider for the state of Utah in 2025. We received one-third of the sexual assault prevention funding appropriated in the state last year and it's for a three-year contract, which is great. Uh these funds with these funds, we've partnered with private preschools um and we reach elementary and middle schoolers in the Grand County School District, providing healthy relationships, body safety, education, um all to prevent sexual violence. Caven has also received a coveted federal contract which will fund regional expansion into San Juan County. Our putting on the rights 2026

just a few weeks ago. I am still recovering. I don't know about you. Um we broke our fundraising record and we made a net income of $50,000. As many of you have heard, Seven has outgrown our current facilities and we have officially started our renovations at our new shelter where we will we will be doubling the number of beds available to individuals displaced due to violence. After this, we plan on um doing a facelift to our current resource center where we will create more private and confidential spaces and have dedicated areas for enrichment and empowerment programming. Um that includes things like group therapy, financial empowerment classes, client yoga, and more. The third and final phase of our project, we will aim to use our current shelter building for childcare services and youth programming. On behalf of C Haven, I want to thank the city for working with our team approving our permits. Uh our central location is so valuable to our clients. To share a quick anecdote on that, we are just around the corner. Um, there's one time I accidentally set off the alarm system and it was incredible to see how quickly the police responded to our campus and I'm thankful they haven't had to respond to truly dangerous um in the the recent past. Um, we're thankful to be a a neighbor to you all and are are happy we get to stay um downtown. Um, other things that we're working on right now, February is teen dating violence awareness month and our prevention team has been busy spreading awareness in the schools and on uh online campaign. Um, we will have a social media post. We have a scavenger hunt every Wednesday for the month of February. So, keep an eye out and you can go find a good little gift. Um, this year is our first year. will fully

utilize Valentine's Day as a time to recognize and celebrate what healthy relationships can look like. We have a small fundraiser this weekend at Desert Sun Ceramics where folks can paint pottery and 10% of the 10% of the proceeds will go towards Caven. And then on Friday or sorry, Saturday, February 14th is the National Day of Action and for missing and murdered indigenous women, girls, and two-spirited people. CEN will have signs displayed along center street um along the county and city government lawns sharing statistics, resources, and other information about this issue. We thank the city of Mo for being a great partner on that as well. Um thank you for giving me this time. I'd love to answer any questions if you have anything.

Questions? Did you say where the new facility is? Is it We're lucky enough to buy the house next door to our campus. So we're just expanding. Yeah. Right there. Great. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. How's that going? Great. So, you have started. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The renovations have started. Yeah. That's amazing. What's kind of your timeline on that and the

Yeah. I mean, a lot of it depends on the space. Um I I don't feel too equipped to give that right this moment. Within the year that phase should be completed. Um, in the next few weeks, we're going to start looking at the resource center in that second phase and then work on getting those submitted for a permit and then so we're doing kind of this nice um uh multi-phase situation which is a lot of fun. But yeah, so starting on plans for the resource center, submitting those as that renovation is going submitting plans for the childcare center. Yeah. Yeah.

Also curious about yeah you guys expanding to San Juan that we provide some services currently. We proide what we call mobile advocacy services. So we have advocates that are regularly traveling down to San County and Emory counties. Um and we meet a lot of people um in person with that mobile advocacy. We'll bring them up to the shelter if they need shelter. Um we do a lot of stuff just online too on the phone or through email. Um that expansion will look like hiring a satellite advocate. So they'll live in um San County and have a satellite office. Um yeah. Yeah. Amazing.

Cool. Any other questions for Abby? Abby, thank you. We're so happy and proud to have you as our partner and unfortunately or fortunately I guess we have you in our community. We're very lucky to have you and congratulations on your expansion. Able to stay in town. I think that's awesome. Yeah. So, thanks for coming and we'll see you at your events. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much. Uh next up we have Alexi. But before Alexi starts, I forgot public comments. So many people here, I thought we might get some public comments. Any public comments?

All right, seeing none, we're going to move right into Alexis's update on the Moab area transit

service that we provide. Right. Uh this is just an annual update on the service. Uh what I'm going to go through today is or this evening is what the writership has looked like over time including the last year. Uh some changes that are ongoing that have already happened and that might happen and a little bit of talk about funding and then discussion if you would like. So, uh, this has been going on for a little while, but we're really going into our fourth peak season. Some of the the groundwork was laid beforehand, uh, going back to 2018. Um, but we are in a five-year grant cycle, so going into our fourth season is getting us closer to the end of our initial funding. The Mberry Transit has a recap, two main services. We have a downtown route that runs seasonally. Uh it will start in March and then run through October. And then we have an ondemand service that runs year round, but has uh seasonally changing hours. Uh people can bring bicycles, wheelchairs, and pets on the bus, which is not something you can do on every bus. So, uh there's a lot of different ways that people can use this. Um, and uh, we'll get a little bit into what those numbers look like. Um, so this year is the last one. This is 11 months. Um, so it's a little short because we don't have February numbers yet. And the way our MA calendar works is basically it starts at peak season in March. Um, passengers it's uh, like one-way trips essentially. We also have this data as route or rides which is

more like a round trip. Um it's interesting because there's a bigger discrepancy in the number of passenger rides that we see than we do in full rides. Uh we've talked about it a little bit in our meetings. We have a couple theories but um wrership as far as passengers is a little down. Um, if you look at this, which I don't have here, by rides, and we have kind of a little like bounce from where it's showing with just passengers. Um, but it's pretty similar in the number of passengers per day. Uh, wheelchair rides are down. I don't know why. Um wait time is a little up and we have run into some issues with this in the past year because on demand service is pretty popular and people could be going anywhere in the service area during uh an on demand trip which means that they can be kind of inefficient at times because the bus could be going a lot of different directions. Um so even though our average weight time is pretty similar over the years uh there is some increase in high weight times that's being averaged out here. uh one of our busier months, I think 30% of rides were over 35 minutes in a wait, which is uh long enough that we've gotten some complaints. Uh other than that, um we're having more unique riders get on than we have in the past, which is nice. Um and then moving down to the fixed route, uh it's a little down from last year, up from our first year. Uh pretty similar. We've been doing a lot of stuff that I'll talk about to try to encourage more people to use the fixed route and our hope is that will also reduce the wait time and make on demand more useful for the people who need it. All right. So this is those numbers in a graph. Uh the dark blue are the passengers for the on demand. The kind of red orange is passengers on the route. And then we have passengers per

revenue hour and the lines here. So you can see that it's kind of flattened out as we've gone over time. Like it's less dramatic between our peak and our off peak. Uh January numbers were pretty good this year. Um higher than they have in the past. Uh I think we're just going to keep working on trying to improve the service. Uh so it's more useful to more people. Uh okay. So, this is specific to the route which runs downtown. Uh, if we start at the south end at Maverick and then go north, we end up at Fairfield and then from there it goes back down Main Street down to Village Market. At Maverick, it would turn back around. Um, this happens something like every 50 minutes uh throughout the day. Um, we have some stops that are much more popular than others. Uh we do distribute flyers and other things to hotels if they want them. So this could have something to do with the level of interest of the hotel to promote it. And then some of them you can tell are just popular places in general like the area of downtown or on the spoke.

What's with the element? I do replicate that. Yeah. Like how do we get that many people to other places? I mean, so Cydney's been helping me with a lot of the outreach and um I wanted to talk to her about it because she was uh she created a map and mapped every hotel or you know place that people might stay within I forget if it was like a quarter mile or something of the downtown route and then offered those businesses information, flyers, business cards, table tents, different things. Okay.

And I'm wondering, but I don't know if the element actually like pushes this, you know, so that their their like customers know that it exists. It's the whole complex, too, which I think is right is large, which means a lot of employees. Uh, but that's obviously word's gotten out there. Yeah. That it's an efficient way to travel and an important conversation for us to have with them and find out what what kind of messaging there is. Yeah. I mean it is closer to proper right too. So I'm wondering if because the the other higher ones like also looking at the spoke being really busy like

location of but that could also be just center could be center crudely. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you that it would be worth talking to them to see if they have things that are working or or what their customers are saying about it. I The Lion's Park stop I think is surprisingly high because it's kind of out there. Um but it's our third most used. So bikes, I bet you probably. Yeah, might be people taking bikes out there or riding their bike down porcupine. Good to being ready to come back. So, Alexia, I don't want to get Are you okay? Can we

Yeah, would you rather? Um, but it makes me think we should have something on board. Some kind of just really quick survey. Well, they're they're in their seats for 10 minutes going somewhere. What are they doing? What are they accomplishing? you know, something to try to capture this rather than us trying to, you know, interpret this. Yeah, we did do an end of season survey, but we didn't ask specifically about We did ask which stops they were at, but we didn't ask why. Um, so we have a little information about that. Um, but we can also do

have some more discussions with downtowner about it because, uh, right now they have sort of a one question followup that's a rating. So right now people are rating it at like 4.8 4.9 pretty high and then they have a followup if you rate it low to ask what happened. So we could also talk to them whether there's like a two question survey or or if we can maybe alter the one that we did end of season this year. Yeah. Yeah.

How is that survey administered? Uh so we did a push notification to the app and then we also put signs on the buses and then we put them a little in the community too because we were trying to get people who don't ride as well is part of what we wanted to get at was how to make it more useful and the people who have already figured out how to use it might have some feedback that people who aren't using it have interesting information as well. And then we also stood out by Moonflower for a while and walked around downtown and just started asking people. Nice. Um, so that's what we've done this year. I I think we'll probably alter it next time we do it.

Thank you.

Okay, this is a heat map. Um, this is for the on demand service. So it doesn't use stops, right? People call it to where they want it. Uh on the let's see right left we've got pickups there and then on the right we have drop offs. Um so you can see there's a lot of similarities between the two. Um but some differences and then I've marked some of the like red spots. It's maybe not surprising that we're seeing a lot of community services in particular. uh whether people are going to those specific places or they it's a convenient place to go somewhere else, you know, there could be some of that too. But since it's grocery stores, hospital, um I think a lot of these are the destinations themselves. But I was a little surprised that the food truck park area Yeah.

was a big drop off zone because there's no parking there. Well, I I think part of that might be somebody is like, "Hey, where's a good place to eat a truck bar, right?" Yeah. What do you like? We all like different things. Let's go to the food truck part, right? Yeah. There's a lot of things that you can and you a lot of places you could go from there. And recommendation by driver. Yeah. Yeah. It does cut off the the northern part of that and there are more people also who have few destinations in like the north or south end of there but this is just sort of the main hotspots. Also interested to see the family support center being

yeah hot spot. Yeah, it's great whether they're pushing it or I don't know why that is. Yeah, right. I'm glad that people are able to use it. And I do think that there might be other places too in the community that people could use the service to get get around.

All right. Things that have happened to change in the service. We've mostly left it the same. Uh but we've been doing things to try to improve people's access or um ability to find out about it. So, we painted stops, uh, a few select stops, and then the hope is to be able to add a couple more maybe this year. We're looking at dates. Uh, we also tried putting temporary maps at stops in the during the beginning of the routes uh, season. And so in March, uh we also are finished a time point trial, essentially being able to put a schedule together so the bus was more predictable instead of just running in a loop that people would know if they got to the stop if they had to wait 10 minutes or 50 minutes to get a bus. Um those things I think are going to become permanent. We're we're going to stick maps and time points on the stops to try to help people out with knowing when they can catch it and where they can go when they do uh without having to download the app.

That's a good idea.

Uh we've also evaluated the stops. This was mainly Sydney who's been helping out a lot with evaluating whether they have shade or benches, which ones are good candidates for adding things if we uh put together grant applications. And then we also applied for and were accepted to the Bearhub technical assistance program. Uh so they evaluated our program. They've asked professors, read literature, they've gotten a consultant on to talk about app design. Um and some of the things that we're working on with them is we're in the process right now of getting it on Google Maps. So when people look for how to get somewhere, the map will come up as one of their options. Uh currently it'll be time points and not the live location of the bus, but we're hoping that if we get it down with the uh schedule that eventually we'll be able to do live bus location as well. Uh we've also worked on getting more consistent materials. Uh we've had different names for the downtown route in the past. Um and also there have been different variations on the route and on demand and microtransit. So trying to make sure that the stops have regular names um and also that we're referring to them as the same kinds of service on all of the materials something that we're working on now. And then also trying to frontline the downtown route uh as a first option for people to help free up some of the capacity and on demand. Uh yeah, and then we already talked about more maps and schedules at stops. And then uh this one might be small, but we got some feedback when we talked to people that they felt like a bus didn't stop for them and we were wondering if it was an ondemand bus passing them by and not the route bus. Uh so we're also going to get magnets so they can label themselves to help people know if that was a bus that should have stopped for them or if it was an on demand bus.

All right, last piece of this is funding. Um this is five years uh which is what we had with our initial funding. We are just after the beginning of year four. Uh and I went ahead and threw year six in there because it shows us what things might look like uh depending on what kinds of funding we get in future. So over time uh the way the hotspot grant was written, it gets smaller and the city was taking on more of the responsibility for the program. Uh when Richard was here, he also got an FTA ARPA 5311 grant, which is a flat amount of money that we can choose how to divide over time. So we've had that ramping up as the hot spot ramps down, but they end about the same time. So both of those funding sources are going to go away uh in year six. We have applied already for a regular FTA 5311 and it has a match of 50% uh which can be met by us or other funding sources as long as they're not from also the same pot of money. Uh so this is by the time you get to year six, we don't know if we'll get that grant. We don't know if we'll find other funding sources, but and what we do know is that the cost of transit will probably go up because our first contract was a flat five-year contract. So, the kind of increase there at the end is based on estimates that we got for our 5311 uh application uh as to how much it will cost in the future. So, that's where we stand now. Um as in we are here year four uh and we are exploring things to do for year six.

Do uh does our data show how many um county residents we serve versus city? We don't like um let's see for for people who are getting on the route we don't really have personal information about them at all. Uh we do have the hotspot map so we know where people are being picked up and we know if that's in the city limits or not. Uh but we don't specifically ask people um but we do know where they're getting picked up.

Sometimes the boundaries I mean unless you own your home sometimes you may not know exactly if you're in the city or not. So, we could do an analysis of the on demand though and just kind of see just as a as a just some information to use how many people are how many times we pick up people outside of the city limits. So, I think that'd be good information to have. We will be talking to, you know, I sent you guys an email about the meeting we're having in April and I this is one of the things we'll be talking about with the county and I think they'd be interested to know how much service we're providing and you know if there's an opportunity expand especially if we would like them to contribute more. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I do have raw data that will show us like pickup drop off points. So right now we can at least get that like how much are people using it outside of city limits. Yeah, I think that would be good to share questions. Anything else? Yeah, I have one more slide. So yeah, so I'm happy to answer questions about this and then go ahead.

Uh perspective funding options. Uh so we have state and federal grants and other things. Um some of them are targeted strictly at planning. It is something that we're interested in is getting uh more planning done to talk about what kinds of services we want to offer, where should the bus go? Uh we've had a lot of discussions about whether the route should stay going up and down Maine or whether it should serve other areas where people might live. Uh also, do we like having it managed through a contract? Is that something that there are other options for management on? Uh so planning grants are something that we're looking at right now. uh for the future of the service. There are also grants for operations, but these are rarer. Uh we've already applied to the one that we discussed. And then capital, which for us is less of what we do right now because we have a contract and somebody else owns the actual buses and does all the hiring and things like that. Uh and then I have earmarks there, but also that can fall under other potential categories. Uh, okay. So, those are a few of the the grants or other types of funding that we could be looking at. Um, most of them do have matches of some sort. Uh, bus fair, having passengers pay for part of the bus is also an option. And there are also, uh, sales taxes that are allowed in Utah that can also help fund transit. So those are the ones that we're immediately available of on we are immediately aware of but uh we're also doing more research on what else is available as well.

So I'm ready. Yeah. Are we looking at advertising or sponsorships? That is a possibility that we could do advertising. Uh since right now we're on a contractor. It would be something that we could either look at stops which are ours uh or we could talk to them about how they would handle sponsorships like wrapping buses uh which is also something and agencies do. Absolutely. We'll be talking about sponsorships and opportunities in the next few meetings actually. So great

in general in general for buses but but it opens it opens up the discussion wide. So yeah, any other questions? Go ahead. Um, for more bus stops, have you cons uh spring spruce up is coming up and I know they're looking for for uh tasks for jobs. So Okay. Yeah, thank you. And yeah, we also are looking at tree planting for that one, too. I heard about that. That's really exciting. Yeah.

Okay. Um when I was Okay, so one kind of comment thought about funding sources. I mentioned this to Representative Monson yesterday and he also suggested looking at the um rural healthc care investment fund. He thought that this could be related. I don't know. It sounds like

they're looking for innovative projects. Um, I even hesitate, but I I think it's important. Well, I I think collaborating with the county. I know um for sure there are residents at a Royal Crossing that use it and as development continues even in branding mob cities as downtown and then having like a county larger loop um would be interesting to talk about. Um but I would love to explore that. that could look like. Um, and then thinking about alternatives in terms of bus fair um or like kind of charging, you know, I'm wondering if we talk larger about parking um does the city eventually start paying like charging for parking in downtown um as a you know provide the map for free as a way to kind of like encourage people. I don't know. That's like a much larger conversation that I think we've

um been anticipating inching towards as we're talking about downtown improvements and investment. Um but that's some Yeah, I'm curious if people would even how much people would utilize the M bus fair and or if there's ways to have like a a local pass versus visitor pass. Um yeah. Um So many qu I don't know. Yeah, you have more questions. Go ahead. Okay. Well, there's there'll be plenty of opportunity. Yeah. Um and like I mentioned, um do you have any comments?

I mean, I'll echo a lot of what Caitlyn said. Um I was interested when you mentioned having a route that accessed more of like where people lived. the idea of kind of shifting some of our resources towards maybe two fixed routes. One that still serves the downtown center and then one that you might have to wait a little bit longer for but will pop by. And then uh when it came to any kind of bus fair or something like that, I think one of the most common sense ways to begin to integrate that is leave the fixed routes free, but begin charging a fair or asking for like a pass for the uh like specialty pickup and drop off because that does take a lot of our resources. Um, and so like if you paid a small fee for the the personalized service or you had to carry a pass to access the personalized service, I think that would make a lot of sense and you're still providing a free service on the fixed route um for people who really need it to be free.

That's a great idea. Right. And that may encourage people to take the fixed route. Exactly. Especially if they live close to where the drop where the spot is to be picked up. Precisely. It's a good good point. Yeah.

Anything else? Well, we'll have more conversation about this. As I mentioned, um we do have we will be talking about this with the county and I, you know, was telling Michael, it'd be great for us to have a presentation like this that kind of outlines what our needs are because the county, you know, they the commissioners have never really seen any of this. They just know the services out there and so it would be good to share this data with them. And that's why it would be great to get, you know, how many people were serving in the county so they can see, you know, that those numbers as well. So, um, anyway, more to come on this in a couple of months and and it'll be ramping up, right? When is what's the schedule? When are we going to start the schedule?

16th. Yeah, we're going to move into the the peak season. So, we'll start seeing the route again and then the hours will extend for doing the on demand. All right. Yeah. Right around the corner. Spring. Have we even had winter yet, though? We Yeah. Like, I'm worried about what spring's going to be. I think it's tomorrow through Thursday. Yeah.

Okay. Um, we have no department updates and I do need to mention that Jason Taylor is not here this evening. He's out um being a dancing dad with his daughter. Believe that tonight are the award ceremonies and that is way more important than what we're doing here tonight for for Jason. Um, and then Tonnie is just not available tonight. So, we just have um Colin, Caitlyn, and Miles here this evening. So, next up, we have five items in our consent agenda. One is a ratification of a letter of support for the MOAB Under Transition Act to Chairman Mike Lee of the Senate. It says state, but it really should say Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee. This was a letter um supporting the transfer of the umpsite project upon closure to Grant County. um and that was heard in committee last week and it passed with a voice vote vote. So, thank you for allowing me to get that letter out before the council meeting. And also, we sent a letter of support for the federal water resources development act word for authorization and funding. This is for our flood mitigation particularly the 300 south bridge and this is uh uh act through the core of engine army corps of engineers and so we needed to get that authorization and then we go for the appropriations so we sent that out last week as well that was also a deadline um consideration acceptance of fiscal year 2026 second quarter finance Michael's going to give a brief update to you before we vote on all these items and then we have approval of the minutes for January 27th, 2026 regular meeting and approval of the bills against the city of Moab in the amount of $379,933.19. So, if you want to quickly give an update on our finances and um and this is not this is just where we

are financially. Um, so there's really not a whole lot of discussion with this, but if you have questions, I want you to feel comfortable asking.

So financials for the second quarter and second quarter obviously ends December 31st. So we're not talking about January or any of February in this, but things are looking really good. Revenues are at 48% for 50% of the year, which is great because usually this time of the year is a a slower time and we make up most of the revenues for sales tax and re revenue from resort community tax and things like that in the spring and uh early summer, but and and then again in the fall. Um, and it's a mixed bag because obviously we're joking about the the winter being tomorrow and Thursday only two days this year and that's kind of what it feels like. We've gotten a lot more visitors coming down and we're seeing it in our tax numbers. And just just really quick, anecdotally, I won't put up any numbers or anything, but for the last uh few months of the uh payments for our taxes, sales tax, resort, community, and TRT tax, we've seen some pretty large uh increases over the same months, the years before. And these are these are um taxes that were collected in October and November. And so it's uh it's been pretty interesting to watch that. They're not included. One of those is included in this report. One of those is not. October would be included in here because we receive re received that in December, but November is not included in here. And that was one of the higher ones. Expenditures uh for the general fund are at 36% which is pretty typical. Um we're we haven't made some large transfers yet, things like that. Um, pretty much everything is trending right on track. Um, I'm put down some information in the staff report about where we're seeing the increases in taxes. Uh, we are seeing

some increases in uh, actually everything's looking really good across the board. We're seeing some areas where we're, you know, spending is getting a little bit ahead of the calendar, but that's pretty typical in a lot of cases. There's a few salary line items that are just a little bit over 50% and I gave some explanations to that and but I'll just state what those are really quick. Vacation buyback liabilities and as you know in the last uh month we did a an amendment to the budget so that those liabilities would actually come out of a different line instead of uh the uh salaries line. And then there were some minor personnel adjustments. But the big thing, number three is really the big thing, uh, when it comes to staffing levels, uh, because a lot of times we we're not at a full staffing level, so we can absorb some of these things. So, you never see them, uh, as being a little bit over or ahead of budget because we have some buffer in there. But one of the benefits, I mean, it's a great benefit to have a full staff, but we're going to spend right up to what our salary numbers are because of that. Um, enterprise funds look really good, CIP looks really great, uh, Gang Creek and a couple others. There were some, uh, charges that were supposed to come through last year and towards after the budget was approved, but before the beginning of the the new fiscal year that didn't. those roll over and we need to adjust the budget to show that the revenues are still there. The cost of the projects is still exactly the same. We just need to roll that money over into this this fiscal year, which it does automatically, but we need to show that on paper. And I'd say we're still in some in a very stable financial situation and things are are looking pretty good for us. Uh and uh we'll see what the spring brings.

Questions on the finances? No. All right. I'll ask for a motion to approve the consent agenda items 1.5 through 5.5. I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda items 5.1 through 5.5. Motion by Miles. Second. Second by Colin. Any discussion? Miles? No. Colin? None. Thanks, Kaitlin. All those in favor say I. I. I.

Motion passes 30 with no opposition. All right, we have three general business items. 6.1, consideration to extend ordinance 2025-12 amending the city of Moab residential utility assistance pilot program to June 30th, 2026. Marcy is going to present this. It's very simple. We just need to extend it for another six months. As you recall, this is a pilot. We've got what about 20 people. We want to try to see if we can get more signed up before we make this a permanent. Correct. And so to start off with, again, it's just an approval for extension to get us through the rest of the fiscal year, and then we'll look at doing updates or adjustments starting in June. Correct. Okay. So, as the mayor just said, we have 20 people currently approved on the program, up from 13 from the last update, excuse me, that we did in December. Each of those applicants are sitting at $40 for the approval. This is all in the participation summary sheet that is in the agenda pocket. Um we have two applicants that are social security disability, two applicants that are minority and six applicants on social security. The remaining are income eligible or proved benefit programs. The we had one removed because of the change of the property tax being current and we had three deni denied due to the exceeding income limits. So, one of the things that I will just kind of run over really quick um that is not in my notes is we did learn that anybody who is in an apartment that's in low income, if they do get the subsidy, they have to count it as income, which then runs the risk of their rent raising and it conflicts. And some of the reasons why we made some of these adjustments at the time in the program back in December was so that we could accommodate apartment complexes and and more of the lowincome uh housing. And unfortunately, there is a conflict with that. So, I'm not sure

there's much we can do in that regards, but Michael and I have been discussing different things on the program and and we'll be ready to present our feedback on that in June. Other than that, that's kind of where we stand. We have been doing a ton of outreach. Lisa's been doing stuff on Facebook. It's been in the paper. We've been putting it on our bill notices. Anybody who is on our disconnect list, we are communicating to them about this program. Anybody who comes in that's talking about just struggling with the program in general, we are passing off the applications. We're explaining income limits are actually set higher than what you would have through the SNAP and stuff programs to help encourage people to apply. and and while we're making those efforts, that is how we've gotten to the 20 applicants from the 13, we are still not seeing a very big drive in the community to come and do this. And the application, it's a one page, really short. You provide the supporting documentation we need. I review it and it's immediately applied. And so I'm not quite sure what else we can do other than just continue our outreach and and every communication that we have an opportunity to discuss it.

Are are all of our community partners, Cave and all of our partners, are they all uh promoting this? I don't I don't know. Oh, she left. I was like, we could ask her. Um, we can definitely um reach out and ask. I know that we put this at the multicultural center because we do have a couple of people that we've worked through with that, but great. Um, see Kevin is actually a really good place to to start with. So, I'll reach out to Abby. Is Abby? Yeah. Okay. I'll reach out to her tomorrow. Thanks.

And if you guys have other places that would be beneficial, let Michael know and we can definitely um get them all the data. It is on the website. It's in the very front of our website, so it definitely stands out. But we will work if somebody is just uncomfortable, they can come in and talk to me personally behind a closed door. Nothing is ever disclosed beyond our conversation. So to try to help people feel more comfortable. Yep. I noticed it on my bill the last time I looked at it. I'm glad you noticed.

A lot of people just throw those things away. So, but yes, it's it's on there. It's on our uh bills on Express Bill Pay as well. So anybody who's online is getting that information as well, which is great. So that'll go on the next few months. It's going to be the same standard statement for the next couple of months to try to get further outreach. But today alone, Cheryl handed out four applications. So that was awesome. Nice. Yeah. Do we have a good process for non-native English speakers to go through that process? The multicultural center. Yep. and they're great that we talk to them all the time with utility questions, business license questions, things like that. And so we work with the multicultural center quite a bit

and they they end up doing a lot of translation for us and then also help us translate documents into Spanish or check AI's work if we have AI do it, which actually getting pretty good. So

yes, they do. And um Sabrina does speak Spanish as well in my office and while she gets nervous, she does great. So, she is our go-to when we have a Spanish- speakaking individuals come in commonly around not um this program, but like business license stuff. And so, she'll sit and go back and forth. And also, we've also used a translation tool, the Google translation tool, which has been awesome. They'll start it and then we just pull it up and do the same thing or they'll bring their children in and communicate with us. So, it's great. It we always have an avenue and we always get what we need done. So

perfect. That was just one of the things I could think of that would be a barrier to more applications, but sounds like we got that handled. Yeah. Did you know when we increased the income limits, did that make much difference or because we haven't received very many applications and I didn't go through the process of re reapplying because we will have to do that in June for everybody currently on the program. No, we did reach out to the two individuals that were denied for income the last time because we had the federal poverty level income which was obviously very low for Moab and we have not um unfortunately had them come in. So

well new programs sometimes take time in the right direction. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And and am I right that um so we're spending about or offsetting about $800 a month in utility bills. We've got 20 people $40 a month. Is that right? Yeah. So each individual is 400 and uh 404. Okay. I don't have the exact number. It's on one of the spreadsheets I provided. So we're even with what we have budgeted, we're a little less than a tenth of the capacity of correct. We have $75,000 budgeted. We help 150 people with the $75,000 currently budgeted. Great.

Um to give a little bit of background, we initially started out as 75 for 6 months because we didn't know what the program was going to look like, how it was going to change, and then I think the initial intent was to increase that, but as of right now, the 75,000 is is where we sit and and with the applicants that we have right now, that's yeah,

substantial. So, like I said, our goal is just to continue our outreach from our office. I know Lisa's been doing the same thing and and hopefully I think we might see more of this come this fall when everything starts to slow down again. And because we're getting ready to go back into busy season, so I think people might not think they qualify, but it'll be more beneficial to those people that, you know, high water used to hit your lawns or what have you. So, we're going to keep pushing. Yeah. Yeah, I know Chris Kaufman also gives out the information, but Yeah. Great.

Yes, I did meet I actually I met with the county the mayor actually asked me to meet with Mary Lou and so I actually went over there and they provided us a list of all of their people for us to send this out to in the city. So, we are working on that to get them uh personalized emails u or letters depending on how they want to be communicated with so that hopefully those people will reach out to us as well. So, it's great. Just another way for us to work together both of our departments. Yeah. Marilyn's great too. She was awesome to talk to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And in talking with Chris, I know that like when people have property tax stuff, he's like, "Here are all of your options." Yes. So,

and we do have people come over uh from their office saying, "Hey, so we here." Yeah, it's great. Well, glad we're serving those 20 people. Hopefully, we'll get some more. So, thank you for putting that program together. Could I have a motion to extend the program until through um June 30th, 2026, and then we will have more discussion on any modifications and extending it as a permanent program. I'd like to move to adopt the extended ordinance 2025-12, an ordinance amending the city of Moab residential utility assistance pilot program policy to June 30th, 2026. Motion by Colin, second by second

by Caitlyn. Any discussion? Colin, thanks for your great work on this. Yeah, absolutely. Yep. Caitlyn, anything else? Miles? No. All those in favor say I. I. I. Motion passes 30 with no opposition. Thank you guys. Thanks, Marcy. Nice job.

All right. Well, um, we have two items. 6.2, consideration of requests from Amasa apartment phase one for impact fee waiverss under the affordable housing partnership policy and impact fees assistant program. And item 6.3, same request from the collaborative 1581 phase 1 LLC. Unfortunately, we're going to have to table both of these items. As you see, there's two council members missing. We have a council member that needs to recuse themselves. And then we all feel this would be better if we um have this decision when all five of us are here to vote. So, if I can have a motion to table items 6.2 and 6.3 until the meeting on March 10th. Um that he's going to be out at the next meeting. He needs to be here. So, if I could have a motion to table, that would be great. Motion to table items 6.2 and 6.3 to the March 10th meeting.

Motion by Caitlyn. Second. Second. Second. Second by Colin. Any discussion. Um I do just have one comment um for the developer of item 6.3. Um be great to have our applicants. They are here. They're on They're in They're on Zoom. They're both on Zoom.

It's a table. I don't know that that's the appropriate time to have this discussion. Maybe at the meeting when we actually are considering it, we can ask questions, but please feel free to make your comments. Um yeah, no no no no no comment but just as we are tableabling um or future consideration of the applicant to um consider attending in person andor um providing more detail uh at the future meeting. Okay. All right. Motion by Caitlyn, seconded by Colin. All those in favor say I.

I. Any opposed? All right. This these two items will be on our March 10th meeting in a month. Yeah. And if I could just say the applicants, if you could just contact me tomorrow, I can walk you through the timeline what that looks like and uh answer. I'm sure you have a couple questions. So, okay. All right. Very good. That's the end of our general business. We move on to city manager updates.

Okay. Okay, I've got some quick updates keeping with the theme of the night. Um, so I'm going to talk about street light shields first. Uh, and just for anybody who's looking for information on street lights and shields. I uh just did a test on Google. I typed in city of Moab street light program and the first thing that came up was the city streetlight conversion which is the one that you need if you're going to uh put in a request for shields which is what I'm going to talk about. So starting on February 13th of this week which I believe is Friday uh through March 6th residents can request street light shields through the city website. And as you may know that Rocky Mountain Power has come in and and replaced a lot of street lights with uh LED lights that are night sky friendly, but they are a little bit different and some people may be adjusting to those and how they function near their homes. If you have a situation where you are now having lights shine into your bedroom or anywhere else where you don't want it to shine in on your private property, then feel free to get on our website and put in a request for light shields. Uh Rocky Mount Power will be here the week of March 9th and uh they will be installing those requested shields. Again, you can go to the street light conversion web uh page on the city of Moab website. You can do a quick Google search and bring that up. A lot of terms will bring it up, but if you just put in city of Moab streetlight program or street light conversion program, that will come up for you. Um, we do need you to provide the uh poll numbers and uh the side of the light to be shielded and we'd be happy to walk you through anything that you need on this. You can contact Alexi in the admin office. She is the guru when it comes to this and she can help

anybody who who needs help. And Sasha at the front desk will be able to help as well. The city is covering the cost for these shields, but what the city has committed to is covering the cost of the shields the first goaround. So, we want as many people who think they need shields to apply during the first goround and then after that it'll be case by case as as we look at uh individual situations and circumstances. All right, so uh just a couple of other updates really quick. I met with the Moab Golf Club recently. It's been a little while since we talked, but uh we had a good meeting talking about their uh future plans for a master plan up at the property. And uh just for information for anybody who doesn't know might be watching, the city of Moab owns the property and we have a lot of wells around the golf course that where we get water from. Uh but we do not manage the golf course. The golf course is managed by the Moab Golf Club. And uh we did have a conversation about the pending lease and uh got an update from them on that. Uh something we want to update and get more information in and uh they were immenable and wanted to move that process forward. Again, it's been like I said, it's been a little bit of time, but they're ready to move forward. Also met with the solid waste service district director. Uh it's always good meeting with Chris and great guy and he uh we were able to talk about uh the management of the dump sites and some of their policies and different things that are going on and I I just have to say for the member of the board that's sitting here I think it's under good management so very much. Yeah. So the sidewalk project is moving forward. The sidewalks in front of the Moab information center pretty much done but with the cold weather they've had to cover those up a little bit. I think they will, if they're not open now, they're going to be open very soon. I'm pretty sure they'll be open for the weekend. Um, and you'll be able to walk

on the new sidewalk down there and we're moving on to our next location, which is in front of the Moab Coffee Roasters. It's going on right now.

Yeah. So, that's we're really excited. The people doing that work are doing a great job. Uh, we're getting good work um and good sidewalks out of it. And then the last thing, the budget process is underway. Uh we are definitely busy working on budget for the next fiscal year. Uh we start with um looking at projections for where we're going to end the year. We talk about um projections or requests from uh departments as far as what they need for the coming year, rollovers, things like that. and uh and looking at our revenue and I spent the last day looking at our revenue and you know you don't know what the future holds but uh things are things are looking pretty good for revenue right now. I think it's a it's kind of a roller coaster ride for us sometimes, but generally staying in the positive and I I do think uh you know this is the 60th year of the Easter Jeep Safari coming up, big anniversary year. They're going to have some extra events and things like that. They're hoping for a big spring and and going into the summer. And uh I think you can still expect us to to budget pretty flat as far as revenues go, but it's always it's always a good uh it's always great to see the revenues come in higher than what we planned. So So that's always a good thing. And that was it for me.

Thank you. Um all right, now we have council reports and we'll start with you, Miles.

Okay. Um, so Caitlyn and I attended the Colorado Association of Ski Towns uh meeting the 28th through the 30th in Salida. Um, it was a great opportunity to talk to other uh, city managers, mayors, council members that uh, interact with economies a lot like ours even though we are not a ski town or we are not in Colorado. They had a lot of useful insights and uh, I thought that was a really great thing to be at and really glad to be included in that. Um, I managed to meet a little bit with some city staff, Michael on the third, um, on the second or the fourth with Lex and James and it's been a pleasure to kind of get to know everybody and understand the issues that they're facing. Um,

I'm wondering and Michael, I was thinking when you were talking, we usually did have you gotten a facilities tour? I have not, but I would love one. Yeah. Um, usually new council members go on a facility. You guys are all welcome to go again if you'd like to get your head wrapped around what we own and when you mentioned the golf course so that you can see the wells. So I I'd love to do that and if anybody else wants to go, you're certainly welcome, but you do have to pay if you do it the second time. So I'm just kidding. Anybody who'd like to do that, I'll I'll put something out. That'd be great. I just Sorry to interrupt.

No, not at all. Um that I thought it'd be good for you to see. It's been really nice to get to know the staff in a big way and like understand what what are their main concerns and and how we can facilitate their you know the way they provide for the community. So I think that's great. Um and then I also uh attended the new liquor store opening and the dabs lunchon and spoke to Erica Evans about a lot of you know how our community interacts with that and how a lot of our tourists and stuff end up interacting with that. um and then asked the all-important question about uh whether or not we will ever get the ability to order wine. Um she had some interesting insights into all of that and it was very nice to talk to all of them. Order wide.

Yeah. Well, in almost any other state you can order it from a vineyard and be shipped bottles and you can't hear. And I've always wondered why they wouldn't do it like uh in such a way that you could go prove your age at the liquor store and then receive your wine. Of course, there's logistical uh scenarios to that. Apparently, I am not the first person to ask that question by a long shot. No, I'm glad you did, though, because I used to order my wine all the time and until I found out it was illegal, but it was

I had, you know, and I think the reason Miles is they can't collect tax on it. Uh yeah, but there's um they there is some things changing at state legislature that may facilitate that. Great. Um so it was a very interesting meeting and it was cool to meet some of the dabs crew and to see the new liquor store. I think a lot of our community is excited about it and I'm excited about not having so much traffic on that one street that only has access from Maine. Uh especially during season that can be one of the worst lights to make a left at. Um so glad to see that change. Y but that's that's it for me. Thanks Miles Caitlyn.

Um okay so yes went to cast with Miles and Sida um which is a great trip. Uh we toured a couple of different um housing projects that well they we toured a a fading west modular housing development facility um which is amazing. Um they've constructed over a thousand units in four years which is unbelievable to see how they've scaled. Um toured a 3D printed home as well. That was cool. um some conversations about moderate income housing in Colorado. Unfortunately, um we don't even have close to some of the tools and resources for it to be comparable here, but um yeah, just always really amazing to connect with our sister cities. Um a meeting with the mayor and Colin, checking in on things on the third, I think. Yeah,

that's right. Um last week, right? Um I also went to the DABS opening uh which was really exciting um kind of uh community announcement wide. Um went from the DABS opening to um Aurora Crossing these two starting out there which is really exciting. Um if I may share that. Um on the 5th we had a hugging task force meeting. Um Johanna Blanca is now the task force chair. Know that Ben ran that by you. Appreciate that. Um

yeah, and I think that she is gonna do a great job with kind of coring all of us and um making sure we forward momentum. Um yesterday I was up on the hill um started my day meeting with Representative Monson. um talking about some of our priorities and some of the things he's working on, talking about housing and all kinds of things. Um and then went to LPC live in person for the first time, which was particularly exciting. They had a a mayor from a town in Ukraine, um which is a sister city to I think

I don't somewhere up there,

Salt Lake Metro City. Um so just yeah um really amazing experience. Um and then President Adams also came and attended made a few comments to to them and to us. Um sounds like we are we are halfway through the session and a lot of calls to action and a lot of bills starting to move. So um yeah and then um I was up there for housing day on the hill. um which was also really just exciting and fun to connect with Steve Walder. There's um sounds like actually the transition of housing into Goyo is um becoming contentious which is

Oh, really surprising. Yeah. Um curious to hear more about that. Yeah. Um yeah, I think there's like 900 bills. It's there's I heard 600. And they've only passed 45 so far. Yeah. Yeah. So overwhelming experience, but a great day. That's it for me. Thanks, Caitlyn Colin.

On the third, I met with Caitlyn Joet. Um had a nice meeting. On the 4th, I met with a group of people including the park service, state parks, BLM, uh, and some community leaders about bike access into arches. And, um, we've kind of zeroed in on the the Willow Springs road out of, uh, the state park, um, as probably the the lowhanging fruit. Um, so that's been a really good conversation and seem to be moving along fast and the right people at the table. Um, on the 6th on a personal note, I we started uh we did test run of Moab's first official bike bus starting at Cinema Coordinating at uh uh HMK. And so, uh, I'm glad we did a test run because, uh, apparently it takes a lot longer to ride from Cinema Court to HMK with first and second graders than I could have ever imagined. And so, we really had to recalibrate all the the stops and everything else. But, it was an absolutely hysterical time that had music. And, uh, I'm definitely going to be getting Lex and James involved in that when it's official because it's it's hysterical. Uh but um today we had a trail mix meeting talked mostly about HB 381 uh which is uh now it's called the I think the electric mobility device uh and so there's a lot of interesting stuff happening with that and the state's really trying to uh through this really kind of simplify things and I think for especially in terms of law enforcement uh it it's a big improvement um and as it continues to evolve involve will continue to follow it. Um, and that is it for me.

Great. Thank you. And I know the league is in support of that build, so they'll be supporting that as well. Great. But thanks for sharing all this. Yeah. And I'll keep doing that when I Okay. Um, thanks Colin. For me, I had a meeting on the 29th with the government accountability office regarding the UMP site. As we all know, it's getting ready to close and so they wanted to interview me about the process. and all they kept saying it's great, it's one of the best, you know, um it was very interesting, you know, young people at the government accountability office seemed like um we also Michael and I met with UD do that same day. Um we discussed a new passing lane south of town

and um from the OSA to the county line going south and what were some of the other things? It was it was a good meeting. Yeah, it was and I I should have said something about too, but I thought it was Oh, wow. I thought it was like two months ago. So, one of the things I think is really exciting to report on is there are some improved pedestrian features on um Center Street and Maine and and First North and Maine. I won't go into detail about what they are, but there are um they're designed to provide the pedestrians with a little added safety and monitoring what's going on around them and can potentially influence the time on the uh on the walk signal.

And they did because we tested it because we met them at the spoke. I think I told you guys about this and we slowly walked across the street. And so when the hand, you know, says 15 seconds and it goes off and it's like stop, stop. The light did not change until we hit the curb. And we wouldn't recommend people trying testing, but I wish we had video of that. But, uh, it's I think it's great. The, uh, the director of the region said that we're one of the first to get it outside of Salt Lake City. So, or Salt Lake area. And so, that was really exciting. I I did want to say something about that.

Yeah. Thanks. Yeah, because I forgot about everything, but it was good meeting, great relationship with you. Dot. More to talk about later. Um, I also attended LPC online. Some of the things for you guys to be aware of, um, there's a lot of property tax bills. The one that you were concerned about, Caitlyn, about changing the percentages got killed, so that's no longer going to be the case. Yeah, that one's out. Um but all the other ones that you know we oppose quite a bit um uh increasing the cap of of raising taxes um higher than 5% is on there um that you're not allowed we're not going to be allowed to voter approval for property tax is another bill um that's a little complicated to explain but we're also opposed to that. So there's there's quite a bit going on um with property tax. So, more to come on that. We we hear about it at all of our meetings at at LPC. So, like Caitlyn mentioned, we're going to be having to ramp up in getting a hold of our legislators. The one that kind of concerns me is the water fee bill. And so, basically, if we want to get any kind of funding from the state for water infrastructure projects, they're going to charge a fee. Um, so if it's just for a water project, it'd be 1 and a.5%. And if it was for water and sewer, it would be 3%. And that goes into effect January of 27. And then in January of 31, it applies to everybody. So that you would have to pay a fee. Um, that for some communities would be outrageously expensive. Like who was it? Park City that said for them it would be $29 million a year. So, that's one at this point we oppose. Um, the housing house bill 184 is a bill we're also

paying close attention to. There's been two substit substitutes. And my understanding is that the last substitute would limit this bill to only first, second, and third class counties. And if that's the case, that's good because it wouldn't apply to us. And then I needed to get off the call in the middle of uh Senator Adams um talk to everybody. So Caitlyn kind of reported on what happened there. Uh keep uh you know I'll be reaching out. We'll be reaching out if we need you guys to get on the phone with our with our legislators. Interviewed uh KZMU last Monday to talk about the city's goals for 26. met with uh Commission Chair Mel McCandless last Thursday to talk about this upcoming joint meeting. Get back to me if you can by Friday. Make sure so we can confirm that date and then she and I will work on setting the agenda. First meeting will be held here in city hall um on and we're hoping that the 17th works for everybody. It works for the commissioners right now, so hopefully it'll work out for you guys as well. Um, the hardest part of coordinating a meeting with two government entities is picking the date and the time. Um, we met with our DC team, Ryan Levit and Tim Stewart on Monday. Uh, as I mentioned, the Senate Energy Natural Resources Committee had a vast vote vote vote approved the umptra transition act that moves to the full house and the Senate. We should be hearing more about that. Uh, and my guess is that's going to be incorporated into another bill. It won't be a separate bill, but we'll hear more about that as it moves forward. We also learned that the grant that we are awarded from the Bureau of Reclamation for the uh wastewater outfall line um is is gone. That money is gone. So, even though we were awarded the grant, we're probably going to have to reapply. They are going to follow up with uh the Nature Conservancy because if you call recall, the Nature Conservancy was our partner on this and it really was a benefit to the wetlands as well as to

us. So, we're going to continue to reach, we don't know where the Nature Conservancy is on that. So, our DC group is going to reach out to them because they also work for them to get a sense of where we want to go from here with that project. And that's all I have. Um, my pulled up my notes from the rest of LPC. Um, so the thing that you missed um the most scary one, well, so there's kind of two. There's a new HB470 building inspection amendments which seems like really unclear but um it's just another step towards like third party

right um but is it applies to a quote alteration undefined of an owner occupied single family home and the municipality must accept plan review if the application is complete and there's a statement by a licensed third party inspector municipality can still conduct inspections, but the applicant can still use third party. So basically like it's I mean it's very clear that they're trying to Yeah. There's a similar bill to this one like that last year I think. Yeah.

And we are involved in those. Our building department, planning department and our our legal team are definitely involved in weighing in on these as well. These are these are not good. Yeah. And then the other really bad one that they dropped was HB479. Yeah. Which requires two pole workers to attend ballot box drop off locations. Why you need a pole worker at a drop off location? A lot. So,

okay. There's something else. And then I think the other thing that I was seeing up earlier for um SB242 was the one that they talked about that we talked about a little earlier with um potential fun flexibility related to parking and ride stuff. I don't know SP 242. I don't have very good notes on it but yeah that one that's the fifth and fifth and the tiff the tif the transportation tax. Yeah. um that we could impose or the county could impose. We couldn't. Oh, that's um and that we talked about that the other day. That's an option for funding for the transit service, but it's another sales tax. Yeah.

And you know, I don't think there's a big desire to do that. Um but there's also funding available through that bill for bus replacements for smaller cities, and that is something that we could look into to get funding from the state for. So, that's what I got out of that one.

Yeah. And right now, I think they said there's only two communities in the state that are doing the tiff. Um, and I I think it's Park City and because they have a good transit service in Salt Lake with ET. Um, all right. Anything else, Caitlyn? One of the things that Mel and I talked about and we'll be talking about um is how the city and the county can work together on leg legislative issues because nine times out of 10 the issues that are impacting the county are also going to impact us and vice versa. So it just seems like we should be working together as a city and the county during legislative session so we're on the same page. Our voices together are stronger than separate. So, we'll be talking about that also at the joint meeting coming up. All right. We had two items in close session, but we're not going to do them tonight because um well, it's the things you guys are already aware. I've talked to all of you guys about that when we met and again, we'd like to share that with everybody when they're here. So, with that, I'm going to ask for a motion to adjurnn.

Motion to adjurnn. Motion by Colin, second by Caitlyn. All those in favor say I.