Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

May the, what is it? I don't have my glasses on. 19th. 2025, it's 6.30, so we're going to go ahead and get started. We definitely have a quorum, thank goodness. So, Roger, could I get you to do the invocation? Certainly.

Let us pray.

Heavenly Father, Lord, we just thank you for this opportunity that we can come together. And on this night, Lord, we just ask for discernment as we deal with the issues confronting our community. We pray that you give us the wherewithal to make the best decisions that we can moving forward. We also, Lord, want to lift up our first responders and ask for your safety as they respond and take care of our community, Lord. And we just also lift up our military around the world and pray for safety for them and their families until they are reunited. Heavenly Father, we make this prayer in your name. Amen.

Amen. Thank you. Can I get an approval for the minutes of the April 23rd called meeting?

Motion to approve minutes.

Eric, motion. Can I get a second? Second. Roger, second. Any changes, any discussion? All those in favor, aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes. Addition and deletions. I'm going to do it now because I don't know if this guy's going to be here next month. He won't tell me whether he will or not. But Eric, I'd just like to thank you for volunteering and being on the board and being a regular member of the board and for your input. I wish you well and where you're going. I wish you'd stay around here, but congratulations on your move.

Thank you. It's been a great experience.

Hear, hear. Reports on committees? Take us into a little bit of detail. A little bit, don't go too far. Just kind of get us up to speed on what's happened.

back to planning board for another recommendation so most likely we're looking at they really want to try boom but i don't think they're going to make it so it looks like july public hearing in july planning board most likely decision in august and um i don't know exactly what the plan how they're going to amend it

Is it worth going back to them and, as you're talking to them tomorrow, recommend or, I mean, it's up to you, but that they have another community meeting? Once they get their plan together before the public hearing, that they have a community meeting? Or do they think that's going to be too hostile?

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's a person that lives in the neighborhood that backs up to it. He is helpful. He's actually written at least three letters, you know, multi-page letters and sent that to us and offered suggestions. But the big reason really for this to go back, there's some concerns with the building, what uses are going to be in the building, which by the way, that was something that you guys really didn't even But I think they're looking for a little more than that. So that's going to come up, but also they've added some parking areas that you did not see. So that's the point, bringing it back to a public hearing, let the public look at it, and then we'll be able to solve it. Yeah.

All right. Anything else happening?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so I reached out to the county reviewer, and he said, you know, really there's no standards for that. He said typically the only thing they look for is accessibility. That's about it. As far as aesthetics, design, that usually just up to the developer. And I think I told you that that may be the one thing we look for is just to make sure it's not in the right place. And that's really how we look at it. But other than that, the county, which I think when we were talking before, I was saying maybe the county looked for that type of information that you guys were discussing, but that's not the case. And he said sometimes he'll work with them or make suggestions, but he said at the end of the day that the only thing that they really, they have teeth on is the accessibility. There's some general requirements on that. I'll get information. I'll see if there's any minimal requirements from the post office

What about the auto sales place?

Okay.

Yeah, we didn't ask him about a time frame, I don't think. I thought about it later. Did he have a time frame for when he thought he might be able to do it?

Yeah.

Okay.

Thanks, John. Any old business? Anybody got anything? Okay. New business. Discussion and decision on S25-9, Alexander Landing Subdivision, filed by Alexander Landing Residential LLC for major subdivision approval. Property located at 10-524 Lawyers Road, parcel numbers 135-381-64, 65, 66, and 67. Okay. How do you want to deal with this, John?

Well, this should be a familiar plan. This came to you probably in August, I guess. The board approved the zoning plan in September. And what's before you tonight is the subgroup approval. The way it works is we have the zoning approval, the astrology zone. there's a requirement in our ordinance that says that the planning board is authorized to grant the submits and you still have to circle back and go through the submits of approval. And I can talk to you later if you want about, I mean, we don't necessarily have to do this, we could do a text amendment You've got the zoning plan approval, then you come back with subdivision approval. And what we do with subdivision approval is I look at the plan and just make sure it has it straight away from what was originally approved in the city. And I can tell you that this plan matches the zoning plan that went through. You don't see it here, but the applicant, Mr. Boone, he's already sent the signal plan. If you remember, the traffic signal, the developer agreed to do it. That's already been sent to NCDOT, so that's in review. They're probably about a month out from the final approval on the plan. And there's a couple of greenway things that we're tinkering with. That's it. But everything matches what was approved. So this is just sort of, I guess, a formality. Yeah.

And I didn't think about it until I was on the way up here. And in the future, what we might want to do is send out the minutes, if we keep doing this, so that we don't ask the same questions of this poor guy that we already asked before. Because I can see us going through a repeat, because I'm sitting there looking at it going, oh, I wonder if I asked that before.

I wonder if I, yeah, yeah.

So anyway, but that might be worth doing, yeah. All right, let's start. I'll start with you, Kenny. Do you, now, do we need to go through, do y'all want to go through anything as far as a presentation or does everybody kind of remember what we had before?

I was going to say everything looks pretty much in line with the way we first discussed. They pushed and pulled a little bit, I see. So I don't really have any questions.

All right. Well, my one question would be, it was before it was 48 lots? And now it's 50?

Reverse.

If one is 50, it's 48.

Okay, so I was just going by the request. The application was a real one. Tonight's agenda says 50 lots. And I was looking at two of the maps. One has 48, one has 50. It was approved for 50.

Could you use the microphone? Oh, sure. Yeah, introduce yourself again. Okay.

My name is Chris Boone. I'm with Capital Land Partners, and we are the applicant for this rezoning and for the final construction of this subdivision. The rezoning was originally approved for 50 lots. However, the builder wanted to do a little larger homes, and they asked us to reconfigure to make it 48 lots, and that allowed us to widen the lots a little bit.

Well, I was thinking, I remembered that we had a question about that too. And because of the moving up, moved it forward a little bit, correct? Right. You shifted it forward just a little bit to deal with this area down here in the gray?

Yeah, you're talking about the discussion about the... When it was before us before. We did. We shifted the road. We did. And we made those lots a little deeper. We pushed it as far as we could because we've got some 100-year floodplain and some swim buffer issues there. But we did move that road down and went through that with John. We sent an exhibit and all that was done. And... primarily affected if you see where that curve comes in about middle way in the property that's where it dropped down yeah and we I think we moved it 10 or 15 feet I didn't know if that had to do with because I remember us discussing that I didn't know if that had to do with the difference in lots or or but you're saying the builder just wanted decided to build larger homes right right but we did I don't think that really impacted the lot count at the time we did that, but we later reduced it to 48 lots.

I'll ask a question that we kind of questioned on the last one. What's the time frame?

We, as John mentioned, we are in our third submittal, and we're expecting comments back on that. I think it's the 24th of this month. Hopefully, they're fairly minor at this stage, and so if that's the case, we're probably a month out from getting everything approved, and we would then apply for our erosion control to put all erosion control in and start getting prepared to get our final rating permit.

Okay. That's all I have, Mr. Chairman. All right.

Increase, but not to decrease. Okay. All right, good. Thank you. Thanks, John.

Eric? You had the same question about the road. It looks like it was pushed out, I think, like we had discussed. John, you'd mentioned there was still some outstanding greenway issues. Was this the development that they were going to connect with the greenway back there in the back?

That's right. Yeah, yeah.

They've done great work here. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's all I have. Anything?

Yes, that's what I remember too, the greenway and also the stoplight. Right. That's staying on. Right. And the crosswalk as well?

Pedestrian crossing, yes. Oh, good. Okay. And that's being, those are, we have two different engineers, one that's doing the greenway and we have a pedestrian crossing over the creek for that. And then a separate engineer that, that does traffic engineering that submitted plans, which we've sent to John for the traffic light and the pedestrian crossing.

Thank you. That's everything for me.

And those are with NCDOT right now.

Yeah. So are we supporting the greenware? Are we putting any money into that? Yeah. So they're going to connect it all the way to Apple Creek?

Okay.

So once again, the piece across that the town owns, are they going to build that or do we build it? They're going to do the whole thing. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I don't have anything else. Anybody else got anything? If not, I'll entertain a motion for a decision.

Well, Mr. Chairman, I would defer to our esteemed member to your right. Oh, his last motion?

Yeah, I'll make a motion for a favorable decision.

S25-9 for the Alexander Landing Subdivision, followed by Alexander Landing Residential LLC for major subdivision approval. Property located at 10524 Lawyers Road. Parcel numbers 135, 381, 64, 135, 381, 65, 135, 381, 66, and 135, 381, 67.

All right, I have a motion. Can I get a second? Second. Roger, second. Any more discussion? All those in favor, aye. Aye. Any opposed? And abstain. All right. It passes. Yes, sir.

Thank you very much. I was just going to make one comment. I rode by the site, and I noticed the grass was high. Oh, yeah. We will take care of that.

Yeah, I saw that today. I went by there myself.

I apologize for that. I had ridden by the site recently, and I didn't realize it had gotten so high. But we will take care of that.

You'll have to bail it.

So that's unsatisfactory. So I apologize for that.

Thank you. Thank you for that.

See y'all. Good night.

Yeah. Thank you. All right. Do we have any other business? If not, I'll take a motion for an adjournment.

So moved.

Roger. Motion. Second?

Second.

Any second? All those in favor, aye. Aye. Any opposed? None. It passes. All right. A quick meeting. Great job.

Yes.