City Council - Regular Meeting

> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ELLIOT PAYNE, THE PRESIDENT OF MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL. BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR MEETING, WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION OF HONORARY RESOLUTIONS. I'LL INVITE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW TO GIVE THE FIRST PRESENTATION RELATED TO ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS DAY.

GYM. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE TO RECOGNIZE OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS. I THINK IS EVERYONE HERE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IT'S AN HONOR TO SEE AS A CITY COUNCIMEMBER KNOWING YOU ARE BEHIND THE SCENES DOING THE GOOD WORK OF THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. I APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME AND MY COLLEUES TO RECOGNIZE YOU TODAY AND EVERY DAY. SO, RECOGNIZING ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS DAY IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. WHEREAS, ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESS INCLUDING PROGRAM CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES, PROGRA AIDES TO THE DIRECTOR, AND OTHE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT STAFF REPREST ONE OF THE LARGEST SEGMENTS OF THE WORLD'S WORKFORCE; AND WHEREAS: ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS ARE VITAL CONTRIBUTORS IN TODAY'S TEAM-ORIENTED WORK ENVIRONMENT AND ARE KEY FRONT-LINE PUBLIC R AMBASSADORS FOR THE CITY; AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF MINNEAPIS RECOGNIZES THE INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS OF ADMINISTRATIVEY ROLE IN ENSURING THE EFFICIENT OPERATION OF OUR GOVERNMENT, BUSINESSES, AND COMMUNITIES; AND

WHEREAS, ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS IN MINNEAPOLIS DE DEDICATION, SKILL, AND EXCELLENCE EVERY DAY BY PROCESSING INVOICES, PERMITS, LICENSES, ASSESSMENTS, AND PERFORM OTHER CRITICAL FUNCTION IN THEIR SUPPORT OF LEADERS, STAFF, AND THE PUBLIC, OFTEN GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ENSURY LIFE; AND WHEREAS, THE WORK OF ADMISTRATI PROFESSIONALS ENHANCES COMMUNICATION, ORGANIZATION, AN MAKING MINNEAPOLIS A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, AND THRIVED WHEREAS, ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESS PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY TO KEEP CITY OPERATI EFFICIENT, EFFECTIVE, AND CONNECTE AND THEY COORDINATE TE RESOURCES, PROVIDE REFERRALS, AND DELIVER TRAINING, HELPING COLLEAGUES NAVIGATE TOOLS AND SYSTEMS WITH PATIENCE AND EXPERTISE; AND

WHEREAS, -- THERE WE GO! EREAS, THEIR WORK ENSURES THAT SYSTEMARE USED ACCURATELY AND CONSISTENTLY, SUPPORTING INFORMED DECISION MAKING; AND THEY ENABLE SEAMLESS COLLABORATION ACROSS DEPARTMENTS, STRENGTHENING THE OVERALL FUNCTIONING AND SERVICE DELIVERY OF CITY GOVERNMENT; AND WHEREA ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS ARE THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THE SUCCESS OF OUR ENTERPRISE, ENSURING EFFICIENCY, ORGANIZATION, AND CONTINUITY IN ALL OPERATIONS; AND WHEREAS, ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS DAY OFFERS A SPECIAL OPPORTUNITY TO RECNIZE AND APPRECIATE THE VITAL WORK THAT ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS DO TO SUPPORT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND ITS RESIDENTS; AND THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IS COMMITTED TO FOSTERING AN ENVIRONMENTF RESPE APPRECIATION, AND RECOGNITION FOR THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF ALL EM INCLUDING THOSE IN ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT ROLES; ┘W, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED┘ THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE APRIL 23 AS ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS DA IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND HONOR THE DEDICATION AND EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE OF ALL ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS IN MINNEAPOLIS WHO ARE AN INTEGRAL OF OUR CONTINUED SUCCESS AND GR. [ APPLAUSE ] DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK? NO ONE WANTS -- THIS IS A QUIET GROUP! ALL OFUR WORK -- BUSINESS ONLY! NO TALKING. I LOVE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU DO A PHENOMENAL JOB. YOU DO FANTASTIC WORK. I MEAN THAT FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. ON BEHALF OF NORTH MINNEAPOLIS, WE

APPRECIATE YOU! WE LOVE THAT YOU ARE DOING THE WORK. THESE LIVABILITY THINGS THAT MEAN SO MUCH TO US. YOU'RE BEHIND THE SCENES MAKING SURE WE HAVE SAFE AND LIVABLE COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ]

I WANT TO ADD MY FAVORITE PART OF THE DAY WHEN I SAY "GOOD MORNING" OR "GOOD AFTERNOON." SO GRATEFUL TO WHAT YOU DO TO HELP OUR OFFICE. AND THAT'S WHA IT'S ALL ABOUT. THE TAXPAYERS. MAKING THEM HAPPY AND YOU DO THAT. THANK YOU SO MH FOR

EVERYTHING YOU DO! NEXT WELCOME UP COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI TO RECOGNIZE ALLEN HOPPE.

GOOD MORNING. IT'S MY PRIVEGE TO BE HERE TODAY RECOIZING AN INCREDIBLE AND STEADY LEADER IN OUR FINANCE DEPAMENT. WITH MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. SO WE'LL START WITH READINGHIS RESOLUTION AND, PERHAPS SAY A FEW WORDS. UMM, THIS IS RECOGNIZING ALLEN HOPPE FOR HIS DECADES AND SERVICE FOR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. WHEREAS, MR. ALLEN HOPPE, A FOUR-YEAR US MARINE VETERAN, CO EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY OF MIN ON NOVEMBER 4, 2019, STARTING WITH EIGHTEEN MONTHS AS SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE BOARD OF ESTIMAT TAXATION AND THEN COMPLETI FIVE YEARS AS THE DIRECTOR┘BANKING, INVESTMENTS AND DEBT (BID) UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE CHIEF FINANCIA OFFICER; AND MR. HOPPE BROUGHT TO THE CITYOUR DECADES OF STRON EXPERIENCE, SPECIALIZED TRAINING, AND REWARDING INSIGHTS IN PUBLIC FINANCE AND TREASURY SERVICES COVERING CASH FLOW MANAGEMENT, BANKING, MERCHANT C INVESTMENTS, DEBT, AND TEAM LEADERSHIP; AND MR. HOPPE MOVED THE CITY'S BANKING MANAGEMENT INTO THE INVESTMENTS AND DEBT D CREATING VALUABLE SYNERGIES AND A RICHER ENVIRONMENT FOR EXISTING AND FUTURE DIVISION STAFF TO DELIVER MORE COORDINATED FINANCIAL INSTITUTION SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE ENTERPRISE; AND MR. HOPPE

EVALUATED THE TEAM ROLES WITHIN THE DIVISION BY MODERNIZING THE ENHANCING THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT LED TO INCREASED STAFF ENGAGEMENT AND MORALE AND ZERO TURNOVER; AND MR. HOPPE GUIDED THE DIVISION IN $2 BILLION OF ANNUAL CASH FLOW, ADMINISTERED $1 BILLION OF OUTSTANDING DEBT, OVERSEEN THE ISSNCE OF OVER $100 MILLION OF BONDS PER YEAR AND, OVERSEEN THE MERCHANT CARD PROGRAM WHICH FACILITATED THE ENTERPRISE-WIDE COLLECTION OF $100 MILLION OF REVENUE PER YEAR; AND MR. HOPPE LED THE DIVISION IN REVIEWING AND PURGING 100 YEARS OF RECORDS FOR DEBT, BANKING AND INVESTMENTS, INCLUDING THE FILLING OF 80 BARRS WITH RECYCLABLE MATERIAL AND TRASH; AND MR. HOPPE PARTICIPATED IN ENTERPRISE ENDEAVORS INCLUDING ASSISTING WITH VARIOUS STAFF RECRUITING AND HIRING, ACQUISITION OF AN ERP SYSTEM AND A SUPPORTING CONSULTING FIRM, ACQUISITION OF A PAYMENT PLATFORM, MULTIPLE OTHER PROCUREMENT INITIATIVES T KEEP THE CITY COMPETITIVE, AND EMERGENCY OPERATIONS TRAINING A MARYLAND FEMA TRAINING CENTER; MR. HOPPE IS GREATLY APPRECIATE FOR HIS DEEP ANALYTICAL INSIGHTS, PRINCIPLED APPROACH T SINESS PLANNING AND EXECUTION, AND HIS CHALLENGING QUESTIONS; HE WILL BE DEEPLY MISSED AS A LEADER, COLLEAGUE, AND FRIEND B THE FINANCE AND PROPERTY SERVIC DEPARTMENT, CITY ELECTED OFFICIALS, DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ┘NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVE┘ THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY PRESENT THIS HONORARY RESOLUTION TO ALLEN HOPPE IN RECOGNITION OF THEIR SINCERE THANKS AND WELL-WISHES UPON THI OCCASION OF HIS RETIREMENT. THANK YOU, MR. HOPPE. I ASSUME SOMEBODY AS PART OF HIS DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHAT A PLEASURE IT'S BEEN WORKING WITH YOU. YOU KNOW, I'VE ASKED QUESTIONS FROM THE DAIS AFTER YOU'VE PRESENTED AND THEY'VE BEEN LIKE, HERE IS A THOUGHT THAT CAME TO ME BECAUSE THE WAY YOU PRESENTED SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT I READ. AND YOUR THOUGHTFUL ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS ON THE SPOT, RIGHT UP HERE, YOU KNOW, IS

REALLY UNMATCHED. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT ABOUT YOU. I'LL MISS THAT ABOUT YOU. DO YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

THANKOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND FOR THE MAYOR'S SUPPORT AND EVERYTHING THAT THE FINANCE GROUP HAS DONE. I APPRECIATE BEING HIRED BY THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AS WELL AS THE BOARD OF ESTIMATE AND TAXATION. IT'S BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE. A LOT OF GOOD, HARD-WORKING PEOPLE LEADING THE TEAM EFFORT TO DELIVER RESULTS. WE'VE GOT GREAT CREW TAKING OVER AFTER I LEAVE. SO I'M GOING TO RETIREMENT AND WISH EVERYONE THE BEST. [ APPLAUSE ]

THANK YOU EVERYONE. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE DIS CITY COUNCIL FOR APRIL 23rd TO ORDER. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER STEVENSON. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. PRESE. COUNCIL MEMBER WARREN. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER SHAFFER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER WHITING. PRESENT. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. PRESENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE. PRESENT. 13 MEMBERS PRESENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I WANT TO LET -- REMIND ALL MEMBERS AND STAFF THAT THIS MEETING IS BROADCAST TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THE BROADCAST INCLUDES REAL TIME CAPTIONING AS A MEANS TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE ALL SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RATE OF OUR SPEECH SOUR CAPTIONERS CAN TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. WE ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. WITH THAT, THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING IS BEFORE US. I HAVE ONE AMENDMENT BEFORE US, WHICH IS A NOTICE OF ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION RELATED TO ADDRESSING GAPS IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AUTHORITY TO ACT TO REDUCE THE SPREAD OF INFECTIOUS DISEASES. ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA AS AMENDED. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. STEPHENSON. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. VETAW. AYE. PALMISANO. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. WARREN. AYE. SHAFFER. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. 13 AYES. THAT CRIES. AND THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT ITEM IS ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR ADJOURNED MEETING OF APRIL 8, AND OUR REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL 9th. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE MINUTES PLEASE. SO MOVED. SECOND. CHOWDHURY. AYE. STEVENSON. AYE. RAINVIL. AYE. VETAW. AYE. PRES PALMISANO. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. WARREN. AYE. SHAFFER.

AYE. WONSLEY. AYE CHUGHTAI. AYE. WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. 13 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. FINALLY, THE REFERRAL OF PETITIONS, COMMUNICATIONS, AND REPORTS TO THE PROPER COMMITTEES. MAY I HAVE A MOTION.. CHOWDHURY. AYE. STEVENSON. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. VETAW. AYE. PALMISANO. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. WARREN. AYE. SHAFFER. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. 13 AYES.

THAT CARRIES. AND THE MATTERS HAVE BEEN REFERRED. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE PRESENTATI OF REPORTS FROM OUR STANDING COMMITTEES. THOSE ARE TAKEN IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER BEGINNING WITH THE REPORT OF THE BUSINESS, HOUSING, AND ZONING COMMITTEE GIVEN BY THE CHAIR, VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PRESIDENT. BRINGING FORWARD 12 ITEMS. ONE IS APPROVING HOUSING REV ENOUGH BOND TO THE BOTTINEAU. TWO IS LAND SALE MINNEAPOLIS HOMES PROPERTY TO PURCHASE PROGRAM. THREE APPROVES LIQUOR LICENSE. FOUR APPROVES 22 LIQUOR LICENSE RENEWALS. FIVE APPROVES TWO GAMBLING LICENSE. SIX IS STREET RENAMING FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. SEVEN AMENDS A RESOLUTION BY UPDATING LEGAL LANGUAGE. EIGHT AUTHORIZES COOPERATIVE FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR FAIR HOUSING PLANNING. NINE AUTHORIZES AGREEMENT RELATED TO THE EASEMENT AND UTILITIES. 10 GRANTS A PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE WAIVER FOR MALL COME YARDS PROJECT. 11 ACCEPTS THE GRANT FROM MET COUNCIL. AND LASTLY, ITEM 12, APPROVES THE SPRING BROWNFIELD GRANT APPLICATION. WITH THAT, I MOVE ALL ITEMS FOR APOVAL. THANK YOU.

VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S PORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANTED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS IN REFERENCE TO ITEM 10, WHICH AUTHORIZES THE STAFF TO WORK WITH THE PARK BOARD TO ACCEPT THE LA EASEMENT AND PARTNERSHIP WITH MALL COME YARDS. AS IN L LIEU OF THE PARK DEDICATION FEES REQUIRED WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT. IT WILL HELP CLOSE THE GRAND ROUNDS MISSING LINK. IT WILL CLOSE THE 3-MILE GAP AND INCORPORATE PARTS OF WARD 2, LIKE BEING CONSIDERED IN THIS ITEM. AND TO OVERALL PROJECT THAT INCLUDES 50 MILES OF PARKWAY, BICYCLE PATHS, AS WELL AS PEDESTRIAN ACCESS OF THE GRAND ROUNDS. THIS IS AN EXCITING MULTIMODAL PROJECT THAT MANY GOVERNMENT AGENCIES HAVE SPENT YEARS ADVANCING. AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE WORK OF THIS COUNCIL AND, ALSO, THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN WARD TWO, PROPERTY OWNERS IN WARD TWO, ALSO IN COLLABORATION WITH MY OFFICE. WE WERE ABLE TO BRING FUNDING TO MAKE SURE WE COULD STUDY WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO CLOSE THIS GAP. AND I'M GRATEFUL TO SEE THE FRUITS OF THAT -- OR THOSE COLLECTIVE EFFORTS YIELD US IN BEING ABLE TO MOVE THIS PIECE FORWARD. EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T RIDE A BIKE, I LOOK FORWARD TO WALKING OR STR TRKING OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU CAN DO. I WANT TO SAY THISM HOPEFUL ALL MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT IT.

COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANTED TO PULL ITEM NUMBER SIX FOR A SEPATE VOTE AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS, PLEASE. NOTED. COUNCIL MEMBER SHAFFER. YES. I WANTED TO SAY ONE FURTHER COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 10. THIS IS SO EXCITING! THIS IS HAPPENING! AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THIS TO BE HAPPENING. I WANT TO CLARIFY, IT DOESN'T COMPLETE THE GRAND ROUNDS BUT ONE STEP CLOSER TO THAT OVERALL GOAL. AND AN IMPORTANT STEP. BUT IT DOES NOT -- IT'S NOT THE FINAL STEP. THANK YOU. [ OFF MIC ]

SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROL ON THE BUSINESS REPORT MINUS ITEM SIX. CHOWDHURY. AYE. STEVENSON. AYE. RAINVILLE. A. VETAW. AYE. PALMISANO. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. WARREN. AYE. SHAFFER. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. THERE ARE 1-13 AYES. THAT CARRIES. AND THOSE ITEMS ARE ADOPTED. NEXT I NUMBER SIX, I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANTED TO QUICKLY SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, THE COMMEMORATIVE STREET RENAMING IN HONOR OF MS. BDELL BEAKS. I THINK IT'S THE 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF MS. BEEKS LOSING HER LIFE TO GUN VIOLENCE IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. HER FAMILY IS HERE TODAY WHO ASKED FOR THE STREET RENAMING IN HER HONOR COLLEAGUES, THIS IS A -- THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT RENAMING TOHE NORTH SIDE COMMUNITY. THIS WAS A GRANDMOTHER, AN AUNTIE, A MOTHER, JUST AN ALL-AROUND GREAT PERSON IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS WHOG PEOPLE. AND IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE SHE LOST HER LIFE. DUE TO SENSELESS GUN VIOLENCE. A GRANDMOTHER, A NURSE, A CARE GIVER IN OUR COMMUNITY. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TODAY. IN HONOR OF YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR FAMILY. SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS, AND TALK ABOUT ALL THE GOOD THAT YOUR MOTHER DID IN OUR COMMUNITY. ALL THE KIDS SHE LOVED ON AND WELCOMED IN HER HOME. ALL THE FAMILIES SHE FED AND CLOTHED. HOW IF A CHILD WAS LOCKED OUT OF THE HOME, THEY KNEW WHERE TO GO TO BE SAFE. THANK YOU TO THE BEEKS FAMILY FOR SHARING HER WITH US. I KNOW THIS ISN'T A LOT, BUT IT'S WHAT WE CAN DO AS A COUNCIL TO HONOR YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR MOM.

AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR LIVING IN HER LEGACY. YOU REALLYRE CONTINUING THE WORK AROUND GUN VIOLENCE AND MAKING SURE THAT THIS DOESN'TAPPEN TO ANYONE ELSE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] ON THAT, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. STEVENSON. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. AYE. COUIL MEMBER PALMISANO. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER WARREN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHAFFER. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THAT COMPLETES ALL ITEMS ON THE BIZ REPORT. THE NEXT REPORT I FROM OUR CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE IS HAS 12 ITEMS TO BRING FORWARD. THE FIRST IS A PASSAGE RESOLUTION FOR THE PROJECT APPROVAL, ASSESSMENT, AND AREA ABANDONMENTOR THE LOGAN PARK INDUSTRIAL RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. TWO IS A PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION FOR THE PROJECT APPROVAL IN THE ASSESSMENT FOR NORTHOP RESIDENTIAL RESURFACING PROJECT. THREE IS AUTHORIZING AGREEMENT WITH MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS AT THE TRIANGLE PARK DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS. FOUR IS AGREEMENT WITH MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS AT THE WEST BANK. FIVE IS APPROVING THE ART-A-WHIRL LARGE BLOCK EVENT PERMIT MAY 15 THROUGH 17, 2026. SIX IS APPROVING THE EDINA ART FAIR LARGE BLOCK EVENT PERMIT JUNE 5 THROUGH 7. SEVEN IS APPROVING THE PRINCECELEBRATY CELEBRATION OF LIFE BLOCK EVENT PERMIT. JUNE 6 AND 7, 2026. EIGHT IS PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE MARSHALL STREET NORTHEAST RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. NINE IS A BID FOR DEWATERING GATE SITE IMPROVEMENTS AT 4300 MARSHALL AVENUE NORTHEAST. 10 IS ACCEPTING THE LOW BID FOR THE TRAFFIC MARKING FIRST AVENUE SOUTH AND NICOLLET AVENUE PROJECT. 11 IS AUTORIZEING CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH PCI ROADS, LLC FOR THE 2025 CONCRETE PAVEMENT REHABILITATION PROJECT. 12 IS A PASSAGE OF RESOLUTIONS FOR THE PROJECT DESIGNATION AND COST ESTIMATE FOR THE 38th STREET AND CHICAGO AVENUE STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. THE COMMITTEE ALSO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR JUNE 4th, 2026. AND WITH THAT, I MOVE ALL ITEMS FOR APPROVAL.

COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFLY ON ITEM FIVE AND NUMBER EIGHT, PLEASE. GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU. FOR ITEM FIVE THIS IS VERY EXCITING WE HAVE AN ARTS DISTRICT IN MINNEAPOLIS. IT'S IN COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE'S WARD AND MINE. IT'S A GREAT CELEBRATION OF ARTS AND THE VITALITY THAT HAS HAPPENED IN NORTHEAST TO ALL THOSE EMPTY BUILDINGS. I WOULD -- I THANK THE VOLUNTEERS FOR PUTTING IT ON. I ENCOURAGE OUR COLLEAGUES AND THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND. FOR EIGHT, I DID SPEAK AT LENGTH AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING. I THANK YOU, CHAIR WONSLEY, FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO SO. AND I JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, THANK OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF FOR THIS MARSHALL STREET RECONSTRUCTION WORK. IT'SEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC MEETINGS, A LOT OF BACK-AND-FORTH. I DON'T HAVE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH COUNTY STAFF THAT I DO WITH OUR CITY STAFF. AND THEY HAVE CARRIED THE WISHES OF THE CITIZENS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR. AS WELL AS THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO ITS FULLEST VIEW. SO, I'M JUST GRATEFUL FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF LED BY DIRECTER SEXTON. THANK YOU.

AND I ADDED MYSELF TO QUE BOTH TO SPEAK TO ART-A-WHIRL. THANK YOU FOR COVERING THAT. AND ITEM ONE, LOGAN PARK INDUSTRIAL. THIS IS RELATED TO ART-A-WHIRL. THE ORIGINAL DESIGNS OF THE RECONSTRUCTION WAS ALSO INCLUDING QUINCY. WHICH IS KIND OF THE ECENTER OF A LOT OF ART-A-WHIRL ACTITIES. THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN SPLIT IN TWO PARTS. SO THIS PHASE IS NOT ADDRESSING QUINCY. THIS IS QUINCY STREET IS THE STREET THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS INVESTED IN. I'M GOING TO B MEETING WITH SOME OF OUR ARTS COMMUNITY LATER THIS AFTERNOON TO TALK ABOUT THEUINCY STREET RECONSTRUCTION. BUT WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TODAY IS ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE OF CENTRAL AVENUE. TYLER AND A LITTLE BIT OF JACKSON ON THAT SIDE OF IT. BUT LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT WHILE WE STILL TAKE THE TIME THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE OF QUINCY STREET. SO, SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE. I'LL ASK THE CRK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE COMMITTEE REPORT.

CLERK: COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER STEVENSON. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. AYE. COUNCIL MEMR CHAVEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER WARREN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHAFFER. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. 13 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. NEXT WE'LL HAV THE REPORT FROM THE BHE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE FORWARDED EIGHT ITEMS TO APPROVE TODAY. NUMBER ONE PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE RELATED TO TEMPORARY PREEVICTION NOTICE 45 DAY EXTINCTION. KNOWN AS PAUSE EVICTION SAVE LIVES. TWO PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION RELATED TO GIFT ACCEPTANCES FROM REFUGEES INTERNATIONAL. THREE PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION RELATED TO GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM VERA INSTITUTE OFUSTICE. FOUR PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE RELATED TO DRUG PARAPHERNALIA DECRIMINALIZATION ORDINANCE. KNOWN AS CARE OVER CRIMINALIZATION. ITEM FIVE PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR NONTRADITIONAL AND CULTURALLY SPECIFIC COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH AND WELL BEI SERVICES AT THE SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITY SAFETY CENTER. SIX IS PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION RELATED TO GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM LOCAL PROGRESS. SEVEN PASS ABLE OF RESOLUTION RELATED TO GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS. EIGHT APPROVING A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE RELATED TO MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT SPENDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025. WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE ALL ITEMS FOR APPROVAL AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ITEM NUMBER ONE AND ITEM NUMBE FOUR WILL BE TAKEN UP SEPARATELY FOR DISCUSSION.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTES REPORT MINUS ITEM NUMBER ONE AND FOUR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE REPORT? COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. SCRATCH THAT. I WAS GOING TO PULL THE ITEMS OUT. OKAY. SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ALL ITS EXCEPT ONE AND FOUR. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. STEVENSON. AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. HA VETAW. AYE. PALMISANO. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. WARREN. AYE. SHAFFER. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. WHITING. AYE VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES.

THAT CARRIES AND THOSE ITEMS ARE ADOPTED. NEXT WE'LL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS A TEMPORARY EVICTION NOTICE EXTENSION OF 45 DAYS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'LL ASK ... YEAH. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SOME QUICK REMARKS ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO S THAT NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, OUR COMMUNITY, AFTER OPERATION METRO SURGE, HAS BEEN COMPLETELY DEVASTATED. UMM, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS ONE THAT WE'VE SPEND LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT HERE. AND OUT IN COMMUNITY. WE HAVE OUR OWN ECONOMIC IMPACT ASSESSMENT THAT SHARES THAT, AND WE KNOW THAT RENTERS HAVE BEEN DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED. LOOKING AT $15.7 MILLIONF IMPACT MONTH-FOR-MONTH. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, EVICTION FILINGS ACROSS MINNESOTA REMAIN ALARMINGLY HIGH IN EARLY 2026. THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT WE HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST FILING YEARS ON RECORD. AND WE ONLY HAVE THE NUMBERS FROM MARCH FILINGS. AND THERE ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO CAME INTO OUR CHAMBERS TWO DAYS AGO WHO HAVE PERSONALLY STRUGGD TO PAY THEIR RENT. WHO HAVE PERSONALLY LOST LOVED ONES WHO WE TAKEN. WHO HAVE PERSONALLY FELT FEAR AND PERSECUTION AT THE HDS OF I.C.E. THAT SAID THEY NEED THE EXTRA TIME. AND I WANT TO MAKE IT REALLY ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC, WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS ASKING FOR IS A MERE ADDITIONAL 15 DAYS. TWO WEEKS. MOST AMERICANS, IN TWO WEEKS, RECEIVE ANOTHER PAYCHECK. OUR COMMUNITY IS REPAIRING AND MANY OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO LOST THEIR JOB, WHETHERHEIR JOB STOPPED EXISTING OR THEY WERE TOO FEARFUL TO GO. HEY'RE GETTING IN A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE PICKING THEMSELVES BACK UP AND TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. AND WE'RE SAYING WITH THIS ORDINANCE, JUST GIVE THEM AN

ADDITIONAL 15 DAYS AT THE END OF THE MONTH SO THEY CAN GET ANOTHER PAYCHECK. LET'S LOOK AT ALL THE MUTUAL AID ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE CITY. SPECIFIC SHOUT OUT TO THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE IN WARD 12 FROM THE ERIKSSON NEIGHBORS WHO ARE IN FURAISERS. THE LONGFELLOW GREATER RELIEF FUND. THE SEVERAL FUNDRAISERS HAPPENING. THEY'RE ALL SHARING THEY'RE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF REQUESTS THEY'VE HAD OVER MONTHS. AND THEY NEED MORE TIME TO FUNDRAISE. THIS IS -- THIS IS NOT A BOLD, RADICAL ORDINANCE. THIS IS THE BARE MINIMUM. WE TRIED TO PASS 60-DAY PREEVICTION NOTICE. IT DID NOT PREVAIL DISAPPOINTLYEVES E RIVER. WE CAME TO THE COMPRISE OF ADDING 15 DAYS. AND IT WOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE SHAME TO SEE ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS SHOW UP FOR EACH OTHER, MONTH AFTER MONTH, PUT SO MUCH ON THE LINE, AND IN A MOMENTHERE THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS CAN SHOW UP AND SAY, "HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A LITT BIT OF EXTRA TIME IN ADDITION TO THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE WE PASSED AND IN ADDITION TO ADVOCATING TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, WE'RE GOING TO DO TH FOR YOU." AND SO, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS PASSING. I REALLY, REALLY IMPLORE THE MAYOR TO RECONSIDER ANY IDEA OF A VETO. AND TO MOVE THIS THROUGH AND FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER. TO WORK WITH THE HOUSING ORGANIZATIONS THAT MIGHT FEEL WORRIED ABOUT THE EXTRA 15 DAYS TO COME TOGETHER TO CONTINUE TO RAISE RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND TO CONTINUE TO A ADVOCATE ATHE STATE CAPITOL THAT WE GET A DEAL THROUGH. IT'S AN EMERGENCY. OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS IT. AND EVICTION FILINGS LEAD TO HOMELESSNESS, IF PEOPLE CAN'T FIND HOUSING. AND HOMELESSNESS IS FAR MORE EXPENSIVE THAN JUST GIVING PEOPLE AN EXTRA 15 DAYS

SO THEY CAN PAY THEIR LANDLORD RENT ANYWAYS. THANK YOU. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, THIS ORDINANCE IS REALLY WILL HELP MANY PEOPLE. ESPECIALLY MANY OF MY RESIDENTS WHO ARE 96% RENTERS. WE HAVEN'T FORGOT WHAT WE WENT THROUGH. OUR COMNITIES HAVE BEEN TERRORIZED. PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS. THEY COULD NOT GET OUT OF THE HOUSE FOR DAYS. I WAS DISAPPOINTED NOT TO SEE THE 60 DAYS MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS 45 DAYS. IT'S ONLY TWO WEEKS. AND ANY LANDLORD OR ANYONE, YOU KNOW, -- I JUST DON'T SEE THE POINT YOUR TENANTS ARE IMGRANTS MINNEAPOLIS IS AN IMMIGRANT CITY. THIS ISHAT WE CAN DO. THE LEAST WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP FOLKS STAY IN THEIR HOMES. I DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE THE MAYOR NOT TO VETO THIS AND THINK ABOUT WARD SIX RESIDENTS. JUST THINK ABOUT THEM. THANK YOU THE IMMIGRANTS. THANK YOU THE FOLKS THAT WENT THROUGH HORRIBLE TIMES. THINK ABOUT THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN ATTACKED BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND BY DONALD TRUMP. CALLED THEM NAMES. HORRIBLE THINGS. THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING. I'M GOING TO SAY, AGAIN, LET'S THINK ABOUT ACALLY DOING SOMETHING INSTEAD OF TALKING. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER WARREN.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS PUT FORTH EFFORTS AROUND FUNDRAISING TO SUPPORT COMMUNITYEMBERS. I WANT TO THANK OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, AND INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE PUT FORTH FUNDRAISING FOR FUNDING TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVELEAR PATHWAYS FOR INDIVIDUALS TO GET THEIR RE PAID. I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY WHO HAVE VOTED FOR US TO BE ABLE TO FUNNEL MONEY DOWN TO THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY PROGRAMS. BEUSE WE HAVE PROVIDED THE COUNTY WITH ALMOST 3/4 OF THEIR $10 MILLION BUDGET. THE PROBLEM THAT I'M SEEING HERE, AND THE PROBLEM I'M GETTING IS A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS CALLING ME AND STATING THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE LINKS THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY GO SO FAR WITHOUT AN ACTUAL EVICTION NOTICE, THEY'RE NOT ABLEO GET ACCESS TO THE FUNDING THAT EXISTS OUT THERE. THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN EVICTION NOTICE. I'M GIVING CALLS -- GTING CALLS FROM LANDLORDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE SAYING THE ONLY WAY PEOPLE CAN RECEIVE THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE PIVOTED DOWN TO THESE DIFFERENT COUNTY PROGRAMS IS THAT THEY HAVE SOME TYPE OF NOTICE TO QUIT OR EVICTION NOTICE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT FOUND -- FUNDING. IF THERE WAS SOMETHING, AND I THOUGHT WE HAD DISCUSSED IT ON THIS BODY, THAT INDIVIDUALS WOULD NOT NEED AN EVICTION NOTICE, AND THAT THE AMI WAS GOING TO B INCREASED TO SUPPORT MORE FAMILIES, THEN THAT STUFF NEEDS TO BE MADE CLEAR SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO OBTAIN AN ACTUAL EVICTION NOTICE IN

ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS FUNDING. SO THE INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATION THAT CAME DOWN FROM THE CITY THAT MANY OF US HAVE SHARED ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AND IN OUR NEWSLETTER STATES ON THERE YOU NEED AN EVICTION NOTICE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ACCES THE FUNDING. THAT HAS BEEN FUNNELED DOWN FROM THE CITY. SO I UNDERSTAND INDIVIDUALS NEEDING MORE TIME. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THE NOTICE ITSELF IS WHAT INDIVIDUALS ARE BEING TOLD THEY NEED TO PERMEATE AN EMERGENCY IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT FUNDING. SO, IF THAT INFORMATION IS INACCURATE, OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO FIX THAT. SO THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GET WHAT THEY NEED. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY.

THANK YOU, COUNC PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WILL NOTE, IN JUST AS A REGROUNDING OF THIS CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING. THE REASON WHY I'M SUPPORTING IS BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD ORIGINALLY ON THE FIRST ROUND WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING A 60-DAY NOTICE EXTENSION, UMM, TO GIVE PEOPLE MOREIME THAT WE JUST NEEDED RENTAL ASSISTANCE ONLY. AND BASED OFF OF THE FIGURES AND THE DATA THAT WE MULLED OVER ON TUESDAY, WE KNOW EVICTIONS HAVE INCREASED. AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE ALONE WILL NOT BE THE SOLUTION TOWARDS KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES. AND PREVENTING DISPLACEMENT. AND WE KNOW EVICTIONS COST WAY MORE THAN PREVENTS THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO I ALWAYS SAW THIS AS A PREVENTIVE TOOL. THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING IT. ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE THE 15-DAYS. IN TERMS OF WAYS TO GET ACCESS AND INFORMATION. EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER RECEIVED A NUMBER OF COMMUNICATIONS FROM OUR CPED DIRECTOR. THAT BASICALLY LOOPS IN WHAT YOU NEED IN ORDERED TO ACCESS THESE FUNDS. AND THE QUALIFICATIONS. YOU NEED ONE OF THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT IS LISTED IN THERE IN THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT'S ALSO INTEGRATED INTO HELPING OUR RESIDENTS RECEIVE THIS FUNDS. SO I WOULD SAY THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, ONCE AGAIN, TO WORK WITH OUR STAFF WHO HAS BEEN SUPER COMMUNICATIVE TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US OF TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE FEEDBACK THAT MANY OF US HAVE SHARED TO GET THESE DOLLARS INTO THE HANDS OF RESIDENTS. AND, UMM, ALSO UPDATING IN REAL TIME THE INFORMATION ON THEIR WEBSITE TO TRY TO MAKE IT MORE STREAMLINED. UMM, SO IT WOULD LIKELY BE HELPFUL IF WE NEED TO INCLUDE THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT'S BEEN SENT BY CPED, TOO, TO THIS FILE. IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. BUT IN ADDITION TO THIS CONVERSATION, YOU -- Y DO NEED A PREVENTIVE TOOL. AND THIS IS -- I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK OF WE

STILL HAVE $1.8 MILLION THAT IS IN FRONT OF THE COUNTY'S BOARD RIGHT NOW OF WHAT IS -- BASICALLY THE TIMELINE IS NOT EN CLEAR ON WHEN THE DOLLARS ARE GETTING OUT THE DOOR. WE ALREADY HAVE $2 MILLION OF THE $3.8 WE PASSED IN TOTAL THAT IS READY TO GO OUT THE DOOR TO RESIDENTS. AND THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE -- HAD, WHICH WAS VERY CLEARLY COMMUNICATED, YOU NEEDED THE 30-DAY PREEVICTION NOTICE. YOU NEEDED TO MAKE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF INCOME. ALL THE THINGS OUR STAFF HAS INTEGRATED INTO THE COMMUNICATIONS. IT WAS VERY CLEAR FOR WHAT WAS NEEDED FORKED $2 MILLION. AND THIS BODY PASSED SUBSEQUENT RESOLUTIONS SHARING ADDITIONAL EXPECTATIONS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ASSIGNED TO THE $1.8 MILLION. I THINK THAT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO CONNECT WITH STAFF TO HEAR WHAT IS THE UPDATE, HOW HAS THE HENNEPIN COUNTY BOARD BEEN APPROACHING THAT? AND I BELIEVE WE'LL BE RECEIVING SOME INFORMATION ON THE ADDITIONAL RENTAL ASSISTANCE. BUT THAT IS STILL GOING TO TAKE TIME. ALONG WITH THE MONEY THAT THE STATE WILL PASS TO GET TO RESIDENTS. WHICH LIKELY WON'T BE UNLOCKED UNTIL JULY. SO ALL OF THIS SAID, PEOPLE STILL NEED MORE TIME TO ACCESS THESE DOLLARS WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT IO OUR COMMUNITIES.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. JUST REALLY QUICKLY. ONE, I WANTED TO APPRECIATE CNCIL MEMBER WARREN'S ADVOCACY AND CONNECTION TO THE WARD AROUND NEEDS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FACING AND THE QUESTIONS AROUND RENTAL ASSISTANCE. DEFINITELY BEEN GETTING A LOT OF SAME QUESTIONS AS YOU. I THINK MAYBE SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF THERE IS CPED AROUND TO ANSWER THE STATE OF PLAY IN TERMS OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE. I'M LOOKING AT THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE FLYER THAT WE WERE SENT BY THE CPED DIRECTOR THAT SAYS YOU CAN RECEIVE ASSISTANCE IF YOU MEET THESE THREE QUALIFICATIONS. IF YOU LIVE IN MINNEAPOLIS, YOUR HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS AT OR BELOW 30% AMI, AND THAT IF YOU RECEIVE A 30-DAY PREEVICTION NOTICE FROM YOUR LANDLORD. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO STATE AND SAY THAT, LIKE, YOU DON'T -- IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND YOU'RE APPLYING FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE FROM HENNEPIN COUNTY AND QUALIFIED AT INCOMEEVEL. YOU DON'T NEED TO WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE AN EVICTION FILING. YOU CAN USE THAT PREEVICTION NOTICE. AND THAT'S WHY IF WE HAVE THE5-DAY PREEVICTION NOTICE, AND PEOPLE ARE APPLYING FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, THEY CAN GET THAT TIME. WE ALSO KNOW IT'S TAKING SOME TIME TO GET OUR RENTAL ASSISTANCE IMPLEMENTED, AS COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY SHARED. AND SO THAT TIME MIGHT BE PRUDENT, ONCE AGAIN. THE OTHER THING I'LL NOTE, IS AS FAR AS IT COMES WITH MUTUAL AID, AND THEN, ALSO, THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION ALIGN MINNEAPOLIS THAT'S THE CONGREGATION OF DIFFERENT CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES, AND MOSQUES THAT DO RENTAL ASSISTANCE. THERE'S NO INCOME LEVEL THAT'S REQUIRED. THERE'S KN VICES FILING THAT'S -- EVICTION FILING REQUIRED TO ACCESS THE FUNDS. IT'S NEED BASED. THERE ARE OTHER PLACES

WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET THE SUPPORT, IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GO THROUGH THESE RENTAL ASSISTAN CHANNELS. AND THEN, ONCE AGAIN, LIKE, GIVING PEOPLE SOME TIME TO EITHER GET ANOTHER PAYCHECK, WORK WITH THEIR FAMILIES, WORK WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS. OR WORK OUT A DEAL WITH THEIR LANDLORD WOULD BE WISE. JUST WANTED TO POINT THOSE OUT THERE. COUNCIL MEMBER WARREN.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. SO, I'M LOOKING AT THAT SAME FLYER. AND I WENT ONLINE WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT WAS HELPING INDIVIDUALS APPLY FOR THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE YESTERDAY. AND IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AN EVICTION NOTICE OR A COURT DATE, YOU CANNOT MOVE FURTHER IN THAT APPLICATION. IT STOPS YOU. IT TELLS YOU THAT YOU'RE INELIGIBLE FOR THE CURRENT FUNDING, AS IT STANDS, IN EXISTENCE RIGHT NOW. SO I WENT ON THERE. BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THERE'S STILL ALL OF THESE GREAT BARRIERS OF INDIVIDUALS BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THE FUNDING THAT IS OUT THERE TO SUPPORT OUR NEIGHBORS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, AS IT STANDS. SO THEY WANT YOU TO HAVE THAT PRE-EVICTION NOTICE. SO YOU NEED THAT. AND THEN THEY'RE ASKING WHEN YOUR COURT DATE IS. IF YOU DON'T PUT THAT INFORMATION INTO THIS ONLINE APPLICATION, YOU CAN'T MOVE FORWARD. I REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE PROCESS OF DISCUSSING THIS, SEVERAL MONTHS BACK, I WAS VERY DETAILED IN THE WAY THAT THIS IS LINED UP. THE GREATER PROBLEM IS, IS THAT SOME OF THESE HOUSING SERVICE PROVIDERS, BECAUSE FUNDING HAD BEEN CUT BY DHS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. THEIR PORTION OF THE RENT HAS NOT BEEN PAID. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY OUR NEIGHBORS WHOSE RENT HASN'T BEEN PAID. IT'S OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVEN'T PAID UP THEIR PORTION OF THAT. WHEN YOU SEE A RENTAL LEDGER, IT HAS WHOSE

RESPONSIBILITY IT IS TO PAY, YOU KN, YOUR PORTION. MAYBE 30% OF YOUR INCOME. OUR NEIGHBORS MAY BE BEHIND, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE MONTHS WITH THAT. SO THEY MAY ONLY OWE, LIKE, $300. BUT THE ORGANIZATION WHO WAS SUPPORTING THEM IN RENTAL ASSISTANCE MEANS THEY HAVE A LARGER BALANCE THAT IS SITTING THERE. AND BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND LANDLORDS, THEN THATORTION OF FUNDING IS NOT BEING PAID. SO THE EVICTIONS ARE COMING DOWN BECAUSE OF A DISCONNECT, A LOT OF TIMES, IN THAT RELATIONSHIP. NOT WITH THE ACTUAL TENANT THEMSELVES. SO SOMETHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THE BACK END OF THINGS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TENANT THEMSELVES. BECAUSE THE ORGANIZATION, IF YOU'RE RECEIVING SOME FORM OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY THE OTHER PART OF MONEY THAT IS DUE BY SAID ORGANIZATION. THEY'VE HAD TO SEPARATE THAT. THEY'VE HAD TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND LANDLORDS AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE LIKE THAT. THAT IT IS NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY THAT CONTRACTUAL AMOUNT. AND THEY CAN'T PAY THAT CONTRACTUAL AMOUNT OF THAT RELATIONSHIP ON THE OTHER END. SO THERE'S A LOT OF DISCONNECTS IN THIS. A PEOPLE ARE GETTING FRUSTRATED WITH THESE SUB CONTRACTING ORGANIZATIONS THAT PAY RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND PAY RENTS AND SHARED RENT CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS WITH RESIDENTS WHO ARE RENTING UNDER RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. WHETHER IT SOME FORM OF A GRH PROGRAM OR WHETHER IT'S SOME FORM OF, YOU KNOW, A HOUSING SUBSIDY PROGRAM THAT, YOU KNOW, HELPS INDIVIDUALS TO STABILIZE

THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. THOSE PORTIONS OF THE RENTS IS WHAT'S NOT BEING PAID, AS WELL. AND YOU CAN'T GO AND GET EMERGENCY OR RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR THAT. SO, THAT'S A BIGGER ISSUE. BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN EVICTION NOTICE FOR THE PORTION OF THE RENT THAT YOU HAVE WITH THIS FLFTION T -- INFMATION WE GAVE OUT HERE. THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE WITH THE SAME STUFF THAT CHAIR CHOWDHURY HAD READ OFF HERE. IF YOU DON'THAVD WITH EITHER OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS. IT'LL STOP YOU, SO FAR, IN THE APPLICATION AND TELL YOU YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED. SO, I DON'T -- I MEAN, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS ORDINCE WILL HELP PEOPLE, IF IT'S -- IF WE KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS, TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THESE FUNDS SO THEY HAVE AN EVICTION NOTICE AND THEY CAN GET THE HELP THEY NEED SOONER THAN LATER.

I'LL NOTE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY MS. SHOTT FROM THE CITYATTORNEY'S OFFICE. IF ANYBODY NEEDS CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN.

THE WAY I UNDERSTAND, IF INDIVIDUALS ARE LATE TO PAY THEIR RENT ON THE FIFTH DAY OF THE MONTH, OR THE SIXTH DAY, AND THEY RECEIVE A NOTICE OF EVICTION WITH, SAY, SOMETHING LIKE IF YOU DON'T PAY, WE'LL FILE EVICTION IN 30 DAYS. LIKE THEY'LL SEE THAT. SO THAT IS -- THAT NOTICE SHOULD BE ENOUGH FOR THEM TO APPLY FOR THE GRANTS THAT WE PUT FORWARD;CORRECT.

GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS AMY SCHUTT. THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, YOU ARE CORRECT THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING PRACTICES OF LANDLORDS ARE TO ISSUE A NOTICE OF EVICTION FOLLOWING A LATE PAYMENT. THE TIMING OF THAT MIGHT VARY FROM LANDLORD TO LANDLORD. BUT THAT IS A PRETTY CONSISTENT PRACTICE. AS HAS BEEN NOTEDY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS DAIS, PART OF THE RENTA ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS REQUIRING THAT NOTICE OF EVICTION FOR OUR MINNEAPOLIS FUNDS IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROGRAM. AND THAT'S BEEN HIGHLIGHTED ON THE CITY'S -- APOLOGIES. THAT NOTICE OF EVICTION FROM THE LANDLORD THAT'S BEEN HIGHLIGHTED ON THE CITY'S -- YEP. PRE-EVICTION NOTICE. IT'S BEEN HIGHLIGHTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITES, THROUGH THE CORRESPONDENCE YOU'VE RECEIVED. ADDITIONALLY, THE HENNEPIN COUNTY FDING AND HENNEPIN COUNTY'S MAIN PROGRAM HAS A REQUIREMENTF AN EVICTION FILING. SO ONE OF THE TWO OF THOSE WILL GET YOU INTO THE PROGRAM, IN GENERAL. BUT YOU NEED ONE OR THE OTHER, IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING UNDER THE PROGRAM IN MINNEAPOLIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH. THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I UNDERSTAND IT. IF YOU'RE A REAS RENTER IN MINNEAPOLIS, FIFTH OR SIXTH DAY, MOST LANDLOR SEND YOU A PRE-EVICTION NOTICE. IT'S AN UMMIC THINGHEY -- AUTOMATIC THING THEY SEND. THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH FOR THEM. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE INCOME GUIDELINES MAKE IT CHALLENGING. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING I TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST. BUT THIS PRE-EVICTION NOTICE 14 DAYS. I THINK EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE, IT'S STILL A GOOD THING FOR THE RESIDENTS TO HAVE. THEY CAN GO TO THEIR RELATIVES. THEY CAN GO PICK UP A COUPLE OF SHIFTS TO KIND OF CATCH UP WITH THOSE -- WITH THE PRE-EVICTION BEFORE THE LANDLORD FILES P IT . I REALLY SEE IT AS GOOD TO HAVE THE RESOURCES AND GRANTS AVAILABLE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, EVEN BETTER TO HAVE TWO WEEKS EXTRA TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI. YEAH, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. UMM, I THINK I'LL ASK IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. CAN WE INVITE DIRECTOR HANSEN UP TO ANSWE A FEW QUESTIONS. DIRECTOR HANSEN. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. UMM, THANK YOU FOR, AH, SENDING TO THE COUNCIL EARLIER THIS WEEK AN E-MAIL OUTLINING EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND HOW IT IS GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED. I KNOW YOU WERE BEFORE THE BODY, AND TALKED ABOUT JT A COUPLE OF CYCLES AGO. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ESTIMATED IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE IN APRIL, WHICH HAS BEEN MET. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU! SO I JUST -- I WANT TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE. I'M SEEING ON THE CITY WEBSITE THAT YOU INCLUDED INFORMATION ABOUT IN YOUR E-MAIL. THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PATHS PEOPLE CAN GO THROUGH. SO, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FACING EVICTION, POTENTIAL EVICTION. SO, CAN YOU OUTLINE THE PROCESS FOR AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS COURT SUMMONS AND HOW THEY MIGHT ACCESS RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

YEP. COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. ERIC HAN HANSEN. IT'S A DELIGHT TO BE HERE THIS MORNING. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCI MEMBER CHUGHTAI. UMM, SO, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES IF YOU NEED RENTAL ASSISTANCE. THERE'S CITY-FUNDED AND COUNTY-FUNDED. IF YOU HAVE A COURT FILING, WITH OUR JPA, OUR JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY. THE COUNTY RENT HELP HENNEPIN WILL USE THEIR FUNDS. SO THOSE -- AND IF YOU HAVE A PRE-EVICTION NOTICE AND YOU LIVE IN MINNEAPOLIS, WE USE THE CITY FUNDS FIRST. SO THE BEST THING FOR MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS TO DO IS AS SOON AS YOU KNOW THAT YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE EVICTED, IS TO CONTACT THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE AS INTAKE ORGANIZATIONS. SO, WELL BEFORE YOU GET THE COURT SUMMONS. IF YOU'RE AT THE COURT SUMMONS PHASE, THOSE ORGANIZATIONS STILL CAN HELP YOU, BUT YOU CAN ALSO TO RENT HENNEPIN DIRECTLY AND THEY CAN PUT YOU INTO THE LIST. BUT WE WANT YOU -- ANYBODY WHO IS FACING EVICTION, TO ASK FOR HELP AS SOON AS YOU KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. NOW, IF SOMEONE IS TRYING TO ACCESS RENTAL ASSISTANCE, I UNDERSTAND THESE PROCESSES CANE CONFUSING. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH A THA TRAUMATIC PERIOD IN YOUR LIFE WHERE YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT FACING EVICTION. I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW IT MIGHT BE CONFUSING TO -- OR JUST THERE'S JUST A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE. NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHAT THE CORRECT PROCESS IS. IF A PERSON IS FILLING OUT A, LIKE, A FORM ONLINE AND, UMM, THEY ARE -- THEY HAVE A PRE-EVICTION NOTICE AND THEY SEE THEY CAN'T ACTUALLY CONTINUE TO COMPLETE THEIR APPLICATION. THEY MIGHT BE COMPLETING AN APPLICATION THROUGH RENT HELP HENNEPIN, WHICH REQUIRES A COURT SUMMONS. IS THAT ACCURATE?

COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IS ACCURATE. IF YOU GO THROUGH RENT HELP HENNEPIN AND DON'T HAVE A COURT SUMMONS, IT'LL STOP YOU. THAT'S WHY WE ASKED MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS TO GO THROUGH THE COMMUNITY-BASED PROVIDERS THAT ARE WORKINGITH US. BECAUSE THEY CAN HELP NAVIGATE WHETHER YOU HAVE A PREEVICTION NOTICE OR COURT SUMMONS, WHICH IS THE PROPER PATH. THAT'S WHY DON'T WAIT UNTIL YOU GET THEOURT SUMMONS. ACT NOW.

AND THE THREE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, OR SELECTED AS SUB CONTRACTORS FOR DISTRIBUTING OR ASSISTING FOL WITH ACCESSING RENTAL ASSISTANCE, IN PARTICULAR, FOR THOSE WHO HAVE A PRE-EVICTION NOTICE, ARE THESE ORGANIZATIONS ONES THAT HAVE ANY TYPE OF EXPERIENCE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE PAST, PERHAPS DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC. COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN CONTRACTING WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY. BUT THESE HAVE GONE THROUGH A PROCUREMENT PROCESS WITH THE COUNTY. WE THINK THEY'RE TOTALLY CAPABLE TO DO THE WORK THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO DO.

THAT'S AWESOME. YEAH. AND I -- ALL THREE OF THEM HAVE, AH, ON THEIR WEBSITES STILL, LIKE, ARCHIVED INFORMATION ABOUT, UMM, DISTRIBUTING RENTAL ASSISTANCE DURING THE COVID-19 PAN PANDEMIC. WHEN IT BECAME AVAILABLE. SO, I THINK, AH, I THINK IT'S JUST, UMM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THERE'S HELP FOR PEOPLE OUT THERE. REGARDLESS OF THE STAGE OF THE PROCESS THEY'RE IN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OUTLINING THAT AND DILIGENT WORK IN MAKING THIS AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS. OKAY. ANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY.

YEAH. THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR COMING FORWARD FOR ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS. I HAVE NO MORE FOR YOU. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, WE'RE NOT RE-LITIGATING RENTAL ASSISTANCE IN THIS MOMENT. RIGHT NOW THE ITEM THAT IS BEFORE US IS ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL 15-DAYS TO OUR STANDING 30-DAY REQUIREMENT, BASED OFF OUR ORDINANCE, FOR A PRE-EVICTION FILING NOTICE. AND GIVE PEOPLE AN ADDITIONAL 15 DAYS TO DO EXACTLY WHAT COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN NAMED. BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEIR NETWORKS, REACH OUT TO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE STILL DOING RENTAL ASSISTANCE, MUTUAL AID TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET CAUGHT UP ON THEIR RENT BEFORE EVEN HAVING TO GO THROUGH EVICTION PROCESS. AGAIN, THAT PREVENTION PIECE. I WANT TO NAME, THAT'S AT THE FOREFRONT OF OUR CONVERSATION TODAY. ARE WE GOING TO GIVE PEOPLE MORE TIME. RENTAL ASSISTANCE -- THAT -- WE TOOK THE LEADERSHIP SEVERAL MONTHS AGO TO NOT ONLY SECURE $3.8 BUT GET A MATCH FROM THE WILSON FOUNDATION TO GET US TO NEARLY $7 MILLION TOWARD RENTAL ASSISTANCE. WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK, WHICH ADDS REFLECTED IN OUR OWN STAFF'S COMMENTS RIGHT NOW. AOT OF US WENT INTO THAT PROCESS BEING VERY CLEAR, AND RECEIVING FEEDCK FROM OUR FELLOW COLLEAGUES WANTING TO MAKE SURE THESE FUNDS GET TO THE MOST IMPACTED RESIDENTS AND WE HAVE QUALIFIERS THAT ARE CLEAR. THAT COULD BE CLEARLY COMMUNICATED TO THE PUBLIC OF WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO ACCESS THOSE FUNDS. THAT IS ALREADY BEEN HASHED OUT. WHAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITTO DO TODAY IS THROUGH POLICY MEANS. GIVE PEOPLE MORE TIME. BY THE AMOUNT OF 15 TRADITIONAL DAYS. SO THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. SO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE ON THIS, THAT WE SPEND LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY. BUT WE ARE

ABSOLUTELY HERE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET PEOPLE/OUR RESIDENTS MORE TIME. THAT WE DENIED OF THEM JUST A MONTH AGO WITH THE 60-DAY NOTICE. SO, I JUST WANTED TO REGROUND THAT. I KNOW SOMETIMES IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MESSY WHEN WE GET TO VOTES AND IT'S LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOING. AND REFOCUS ON WHAT IS BEFORE US TODAY. COUNCIL MEMBER STEVENSON.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE BEEN HAVING AN INTERESTING DEBATE OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS ABOUT HOW HAVING MORE EVICTIONS IS GOING TO GIVE US LESS EVICTIONS. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE LESS EVICTIONS. I'M THANKFUL TO MY NEIGHBORS WHO KNOW THAT LESS EVICTIONS MEANS LESS EVICTIONS. JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND, I WENT TO A SINGING EVENT WHERE WE SANG SONGS AND RAISED MONEY FOR RENT RELIEF IN THE BANKROFT NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU TO MY NEIGHBORS WHO ARE CONTINUING TO RAISE MONEY. AND THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES WHO ARE PLANNING ON SUPPORTING THEM AND SUPPORTING ALL OF US IN GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME FOR PAYCHECKS, MORE FUNDRAISERS, AND MORE CARE AND LOVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI.

YEAH, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I ALSO, UMM JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT PROCESSING THE APPLICATIONS FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE DOES TAKE APPROXIMATELY 40 DAYS TO PROCESS FOR INDIVIDUAL APPLICATIONS. THAT'S -- THAT'S, UMM, WITHOUT ADDITIONAL STRAIN OR BURDEN ON THE SYSTEM. WHICH WE KNOW EXISTS RIGHT NOW. WE KNOW THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE FACING EVICTION THAN BEFORE. THAN COMPARED TO -- AT THIS POINT LAST YEAR. O, UMM, THESE 45-DAY NOTICE IS SO CREDIBLE IN ENSURING THAT THOSE WHO HAVE A PRE-EVICTION NOTICE ARE ABLE TO ACCESS THE ASSISTANCE THAT IS AVAILABLE. AND THIS BODY HAS WORKED PRETTY DILIGENTLY, ALONGSIDE STAFF, TO MAKE AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS. SO THESE TWO THINGS ACTUALLY GO HAND AND HAND. AND THAT RESIDENTS' ABILITY TO ACCESS THE ASSISTANCE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM DOES REQUIRE SOME TIME. AND, AGAIN, THAT PROCESS IN TIME IS APPROXIMATELY 40 DAYS. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBE CHAVEZ. COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE. I'LL MOVE THAT. SECOND. SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. STEVENSON. AYE. RAINVILLE. NO. VETAW. NO. PALMISANO. NO. CHAVEZ. AYE. WARREN. NO. SHAFFER. NO. WONSLEY. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDE PAYNE.

AYE. 8 8 AYES AND FIVE NAYS. THAT ITEM CARRIES. WE'LL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DRUG PARAPHERNALIA. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? AS WE WAIT FOR SPEAKER MANAGEMENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ.

PRESIDENT PAYNE, LET ME FIRST TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS NOT. THIS ORDINANCE IS NOT ABOUT LEGALIZING DRUG POSSESSION, WHICH HAS BEEN SAID COUNTLESS TIMES. IT'S NOT ABOUT LEGALIZING DRUG U. IT'S NOT ABOUT COMPLETELY UN-RELATED LAWS PASSED IN OTHER CITIES, STATES OR ANYWHERE ELSE. LITERALLY ALL THE ORDINANCE DOES IS DECRIMINALIZE PARAPHERNALIA IN ALLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. AS WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, THIS ORDINANCWILL RESULT IN BETTER PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY OUTCOMES. IN FACT, IT WAS -- THIS ISSUE WAS BROUGHT TO MY OFFICE BY THE PROJECT IN MAY OF 2025. AND I'LL WORK ON THIS ORDINANCE BEGAN THIS FALL WITH THE UNSHELTERED HOMELESS WORKERS. THEY SEE FIRSTHAND ON A DAILY BASIS JUST WHAT KIND OF IMPACT OUR EXISTING CODE HAS ON OUR MOST VULNERABLE AMONG US. THEY SAID IF THIS POLICY IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE ENTIRE STATE OF MINNESOTA, SURELY WE CAN FOLLOW SUIT IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. WHICH HAS LONG BEEN A LEADER IN THIS STATE ON ENACTING POLICIES ROOTED IN EQUITY AND FAIRNESS. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THIS COMMON SENSE POLICY HAS BEEN DISTORTED. IN OPPOSITION TO THE POLICY, WE HEARD INCIDENTS OF RESIDENTS COMING ACROSS DISCARDED PARAPHERNALIA AND THE POTENTIAL DANGERS OF, FOR EXAMPLE, USING SHARPS ON SIDEWALKS OR ON BE PATHS. I AGREETHAT'S AN ELEMENE ORDINANCE IS INTENDED TO DO. THE DISCARDED SHARPS AND OTHER PARAPHERNALIA TT LITTER OUR STR STREETS IS -- UNDER OUR EXISTING LAWS TODAY. OPPONENTS MADE THE ARGUMENT BETTER THAN I COULD. THAT CRIMINALIZING PARAPHERNALIA DOE NOT WORK. INSTEAD OF TRYING MORE OF THE SAME AND HOPING FOR DIFFERENT RESULTS, WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH STATE LAWMAKERS, ADVOCATES, LEGAL EXPERTS TO BRING FORWARD A POLICY THAT IS ALREADY IN STATE LAW. HARM REDUCTION PRACTITIONERS HAVE SHARED THEIR LIVED EXPERIENCE AS TO WHY THIS IS GOOD POLICY. MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS HAVE SHARED THEIR EXPERIENCE ON WHY THIS IS GOOD POLICY. RESEARCH HAVE SHARED

THAT DATA THAT IS DATDRIVEN EVIDENCE ON WHY IT'S GOOD POLICY. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK IN THEEDIA ABOUT COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON. COUNT IN ON THE CAMP THAT IS PROUD OF THE WORK THIS POLICY IS GOING TO DO. BECAUSE IT IS GOOD. POLICY THAT WILL HAVE POSITIVE PUBLIC HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY OUTCOMES, LICY THAT WILL HAVE TANGIBLE IMPACT ON SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS AMONG US. I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF CARE OVER CRIMINALIZATION. EVERYBODY THAT CAME TO TESTIFY, EVERYONE THAT HAS BEEN CONTACTING US ON THE CITY COUNCIL TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE. AND I WANT TO THANK THE COAUTHORS OF THIS OINANCE THAT HELPED BRING IT FORWARD. ADDITIONALLY, I WANT TO THANK HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO HAS SPOKEN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN UNITED STATES TTO UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS MADE IN MMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. I WANT TO READ THE LETTER SHE SENT. I EXPRESS MY STRONG SUPPORT THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED BY THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL. DRUG USE IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE, AND DECRIMINALIZING THE POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA IS A CTICAL STEP TOWARDS TREATING IT AS SUCH. THE ORDINANCE WILL ALSO BRING MINNEAPOLIS INTO ALIGNMENT WITH MINNESOTA STATE LAW. I UNDERSTAND THAT A QUESTION WAS RAISED A AT A PREVIOUS HEARING REGARDING WHETHER DRUG PARAPHERNALIA CHARGES WERE USED AS A NEGOTIATING TO FELONY DRUG CASES. AS YOU KNOW WI, MY OFFICE PROSECUTES ALL FELONY DRUG CASES IN HENNEPIN COUNT WE DON'T USE DRUG PARAPHERNALIA CHARGES AS A NEGOTIATING TOOL IN OUR CASES. THANK YOU FOR PRIORITIZING HARM REDUCTION IN A PUBLIC HEALTH APPROACH AS A WORK GETHER TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY. PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO REACH OUT WITH ANY QUESTIONS. WITH THAT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE. AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DEBATE ON AMENDMENTS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER SHAFFER.

THANK YOU, T PRESIDENT PAYNE. WHAT WE HEARD ON TUESDAY, FROM OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, STRUCK ME. AND I BELIEVE IT DESERVES SERIOUS CONSIDERATION BY THIS COUNCIL. FIRST, HE TOLD US THAT METRO TRANSIT POLICE ACTIVELY USE THIS ORDINANCE TO INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS ABOUT OPEN DRUG USE AT BUS SHELTERS AND LIGHT RAIL STATIONS. HE SAID WITHOUT IT, THEIR ABILITY TO RESPOND AND INVESTIGATE WOULD BE LIMITED. THAT IT'S PART OF THE TOTALITY OF CCUMSTANCES THAT THEY NEED TO ACT ON IN A COMPLAINT. SECONDLY, HE TOLD US, THE CITY'S ATTORNEY OFFICE SAID THIS CHARGE WAS USED AS A NEGOTIATION TOOL. WHEN SOMEONE FACING MORE SERIOUS CHARGES, THE PARAPHERNALIA CHARGE GETS DISMISSED AS PART OF A PLEA AGREEMENT ON THOSE CASES. ANDTA CONDITION OF THAT RESOLUTION. THE PARAPHERNALIA CHARGE CREATES LEVERAGE IN THE BROADER CASE THAT HELPS GET PEOPLE INTO TREATMENT. FINALLY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO ASKED HIM DIRECTLY WHETHER REMOVING ORDINANCE COULD LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO TARGET DRUG DEALERS, HE SAID, AND I'M QUOTG, "I THINK THAT'S A VERY POSSIBLE OUTCOME. YES." HE SAID, "DRUG PARAPHERNALIA IS COMMONLY USED TO FIND EVIDENCE OF OTHER CRIMES, INCLUDING SALE OR INTENT TO SELL." THESE ARE NOT MY ONIONS. THEY COME FROM OUR CITY'S OWN LAWYER ANSWERING DIRECT QUESTIONS ON THE RECORD IN THIS CHAMBER. WE NEED TO GIVE WEIGHT TO HIS WORDS. BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, HE'S NOT ADVOCATING FOR OR AGAINST CHANGING THE ORDINANCE. HE' LETTING US KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE GO THIS ROUTE. AS IT RELATES TO TRANSIT, TREATMENT, AND TARGETING DRUG DEALERS. WE WILL BE TAKING A TOOL OUT OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TOOL KIT AND WE'LL BE MAKING OUR COMMUNITY LESS SAFE. WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC HEALTH, W NEED TO BE HONEST ABOUT WHAT THIS PHRASE ACTUALLY MEANS. PUBLIC HEALTH IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE HEALTH OF

THE PEOPLE ENGAGED IN THE BEHAVIOR BEING REGULATED. IT ENCOMPASSES THE WELL BEING OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. INCLUDING PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT USING DRUGS. OR CHOOSE -- DID NOT CHOOSE TO BE APPROXIMATE TO DRUG USE. THAT INCLUDES THE CHILD AT THE BUS STOP. THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER WATCHING CUSTOMERS WALK PAST A CORNER WHERE PEOPLE ARE VIS VISIBLY USING. THE RESIDENT WHO WANTS TO TAKE THEIR FAMILY TO THE PARK WITHOUT ENCOUNTERING USED NEEDLES. THEIR HEALTH AND SAFETY ARE APUD AN ANALYSIS THAT DOESN'T WEIGH THOSE HARMS ALONGSIDE THE HARMS OF CRIMINALIZATION ISN'T REALLY A FULL PUBLIC HEALTH ANALYSIS. IT'S A PARTIAL ONE. AND I'M NOT DISMISSING THE RESEARCH ON HARM REDUCTION. I'M SAYING THAT FRAME HAS TO BE WIDE ENOUGH TO INCLUDE EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN THIS CITY. AND I HAVE TO SAY, I KEPT HEARING ON TUESDAY THIS ORDINANCE ISN'T ABOUT PUBLIC DRUG USE. YOU'RE RIGHT. THIS ORDINANCE IS ABOUT PUBLICSE OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA. THAT SUPPORTERS WANT TO PROTECT HARM REDUCTION WORKERS AND SUPPORT PEOPLE TRYING TO CLEAN -- ACCESS CLEAN SUPPLIES. THAT'S NOT IN DISREGARD. I AM NOT A PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERT. I AM NOT VERSED IN ACADEMIC LITERATURE AROUND BEST PRACTICES FOR ADDRESSING SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER. I CAN READ AND WHAT WE'RE STRIKING FROM THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN EXPLICITLY IN 2.2. IT'S THE UNLAWFUL F ANY PERSON TO KNOWINGLY OR INTENTIONALLY TO USE OR TO POSSESS DRUG PARAPHERNALIA IN A PUBLIC PLACE. AND WE'RE STRIKING THAT. SO, WHEN THE CLAIM IS MADE THAT IT HANOTHING TO DO WITH PUBLIC USE OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA, THAT'S NOT A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION. THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE TEXT IN FRONT OF US IN PLAINLY WRITTEN. I'VE HEARD COMMENTS THIS IS AN

ORDINANCE THAT DOESN'T GET USED MUCH. MAYBE THE NUMBERS ARE SMALLER THAN WHAT SOME OF US EXPECTED. BUT EVEN A TOOL THAT GETS OCCASIONALLY USED IS STILL A TOOL. AND WHEN IT DOES GET USED, IT'S LARGELY AT TRANSIT STOPS AND STATIONS. SO, I'M A NO ON THIS DRUG PARAPHERNALIA CHANGE. UPTOWN NEEDS THIS. NICOLLET AVENUE NEEDS THIS. WE ALL NEED THIS. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT. COUNCIL MEMBER STEVENSON.

THANK YOU. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PATH THAT WE'RE ON NOW WHEN IT COMES TO PUIC DRUG USE, OVERDOSES. I BELIEVE I SAW A PICTURE JUST THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THE WALKER LIBRARY CUTTING THE BENCH OFF THE FRONT OF THEIR LIBRARY SO THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T SIT THERE ANWOULDN'T USE. WE'RE IN A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE TO FIGHT OVER WHETHER WE WAN PUBLIC BENCHES PUT ANYWHERE. BUS STOPS, ANYWHERE. BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID OF HOMELESS PEOPLE. WE'RE AFRAID OF PEOPLE USING. THIS IS THE PATH WE'RE ON NOW. WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS LEADING TO THE ERADICATION O SITTING IN PUBLIC. WE HAVE THESE TERRIBLE SEMI-BENCHES AT THE LIGHT RAIL STATIONS. WHERE YOU CAN SUPPOSEDLY LEAN AGAINST THEM TO REST. BUT IT'S NOT A REAL BENCH WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SIT. THIS IS THE WORLD WE'RE LIVING IN NOW. WITH THIS ALREADY CRIMINIZED. SO, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS SIMPLY NOT WORKING AT ALL. ALL OF THAT IS BESIDES THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MANY OVERDOSES IN OUR CITY. ON OUR STREETS. THE FACT THAT PUBLIC DRUG USE IS HAPPENING NOW. WITH THESE LAWS ON THE BOOKS. SO WE'RE NOT, BY ANY MEANS, MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON THESE THINGS. WHEN WE HAVE ADVOCATES COME TO US AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA. WE KNOW HOW WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THE HEALTH AND THE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE FROM THE STREETS. FROM PUBLIC DRUG USE INTO TREATMENT. I SAY WE GIVE IT A SHOT. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE ACADEMIC LITERATURE DOES SHOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPROVE OUTCOMES, INCLUDING GETTING PEOPLE INTO TREATMENT. I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, AGAIN, THE HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY'S COMMENTS SAYING HER OFFICE, WHICH PROSECUTES ALL FELONY DRUG CASES, DOES NOT USE THIS AS A NEGOTIATING TOOL. AND IF THEY DID, IF THEY WANTED TO NEGOTIATE WITH SOMETHING, WHEN I WAS A STREET OUTREACH WORKER, WE HAD A IENT WHO WAS CHARGED WITH

ATTEMPTED LOITERING. LET'S THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT IS. LOITERING IS STAYING SOMEWHERE TOO LONG. ATTEMPTING TO DO SOMETHING IS TRYING BUT FAILING TO DO IT. ATTEMPTING TO LOITER IS STAYING SOMEWHERE AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME. SO LITERALLY WE CAN CHARGE PEOPLE WI ANYTHING! ANYTHING! PEOPLE CAN BE CHARGED WITH IN THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE THE WHOLE WAR ON DRUGS. WE HAVE ALL THESE LAWS ON THE BOOKS. WE ARE NOT WANTING FOR TOOLS FOR CRIMINALIZATION IN THIS COUNTRY. OUR MASSIVE PRISON POPULATION IS ONE TESTAMENT TO THAT. SO, PLEASE, LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT ALL THE SUDDEN POLICE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS WILL NOT HAVEHE TOOLS THEY NEED TO FURTHER CRIMINALIZE OR TO FIND LEGAL PATHWAYS TO MOVE PEOPLE INTO FORCED TREATMENT. WE HAVE SO MANY LAWS. DIFFERENT WAYS TO CRIMINALIZE PEOPLE. ATTEMPTING LOITERING CAN BE ONE, I NEED BE, APPARENTLY. LASTLY, I WAS A STREET OUTREACH WORKER. I CARRIED CLEAN NEEDLES. I CARRIED NARCAN. I CARRIED, ON OCCASION, BUBBLES, WHICH IS GLASS PIPES. AND THE REASON I DID THAT IS BECAUSE I HATE SEEING PEOPLE GET HIV AND HEPATITIS C. I HATE IT. I HATE IT SO MUCH. AND WHAT I DO LIKE, IS I LIKE BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE ON THE STREETS. I ACTUALLY STILL PASS PEOPLE WALKING DO THE STREETS WHO RECOGNIZE ME. AND SAY, "OH, HEY. YEAH. I NEED TO GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH MY CASEWORKER." THAT'S WHAT -- THAT'S WHAT THESE -- THIS DRUG PARAPHERNALIA DOES. IT ALLOWS ME TO HAND SOMEONE SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT AND BLESS THEM IN A SMALL WAY SO WE CAN BUILD A RELATIONSHIP THAT WHEN THEY SEE ME, THEYEE, HEY, THAT'S SOMEBODY WHO CARES ABOUT ME AND THEY KNOW I DON'T WANT THEM ON THE STREETS. THEY KNOW

I DON'T WANT THEM TO USE DRUGS. IT'S SO OBVIOUS. SO WHEN THEY SEE ME, THEY SEE SOMEONE WHO CARES ABOUT THEM. AND TY SEE A PATHWAY TO GETTING OFF THE STREETS AND OFF OF DRUGS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING BY PASSING THIS. WE'RE GIVING OTHER WORKERS THE CHANCE, THE LEGAL PROTECTION TO CREATE THESE BEAUTIFUL RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING ON OUR STREETS. THAT RELATIONSHIP IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY POWERFUL. I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE IN THIS CITY WHO I THOUGHT, IF THERE WAS ANYONE WHO COULD NOT OBTAIN HOUSING OR GET CLEAN. IT'S THIS PERSON. TURN AROUND A FEW MONTHS. THEY'RE IN HOUSING. THERE IS HOPE FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON ONUR STREETS. THIS IS A PATHWAY TO HOPE. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO PASS THIS FOR MANY, MANY REASONS. BUT, FOR AT LEAST THE HOPE THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS AND INTO TREATMENT AND INTO FULFILLING LIVES THAT THEY WANT AND THAT WE WANT FOR THEM. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER WARREN.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I REALLY AM SAT AND THOUGHT ABOUT THIS. AND TALKED TO NUMEROUS COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN MY WARD. AND ON THE NORTH SIDE PRIOR TO OUR COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING THAT WE HELD ON TUESDAY. WHICH, UMM, WHICH PROVOKED THE QUESTIONS I ASKED OUR CITY ATTORNEY, WHEN THEY CAME BEFORE OUR CHAMBERS. AND ONE OF THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS THAT HE SAID, THAN STOOD OUT TO ME, THERE ARE CURRENT PROTECTIONS IN THE LAW THAT PREVENT CRIMINALIZATION OF INDIVIDUALS WHO CLEAN UP NEEDLES, WHO DISTRIBUTE NEEDLES, AND INDIVIDUALS WHO CARRY CLEAN NEEDLES OR PARTICIPATE IN NEEDLE EXCHANGE PROGRAMS. AND THAT REALLY, REALLY, REALLY MADE ME FEEL GOOD KNOWING AND UNDERSTANDING THE WAY THAT THE LAW IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, AND THE WAY THAT THE STATUTE CURRENTLY LINES UP, THERE ARE PROTECTIONS. BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IF I, MYSELF, WOULD BE VIEWED AS CRIMINAL FOR CLEANING UP NEEDLES THAT SOMETIMES FREQUENTLY, YOU KNOW, MORE TIMES THAN NOT, SPECKLE MY ALLEYWAY WHERE I LIVE IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. AND I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS WHO DO AN AMAZING JOB OUT HERELEANING UP THE NEEDLES. MAKING SURE THEY'RE NOT IN THE PARKS AND O ON THE STREETS. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IF THEY WOULD-BE CRIMINALIZED BECAUSE AFTER A NEEDLE IS USED, AND IT CONTAINS -- THIS IS,

AGAIN, THE PARAPHERNALIA -- IT CONTAINS RESIDUE. IF THE PARAPHERNALIA CONTAINS RESIDUE OF DRUG SUBSTANCE, IT'S CONSIDERED CRIMINAL. WE LEARNED THAT WHEN OUR ATTORNEY SPOKE TO US ON TUESDAY. AND I LOVE HOW WE NEVER LET THE FACTS AND THE LAW GET IN THE WAY OF OUR OPINION. I LOVE THAT,OO. WE RECEIVED A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROTECTIONS THAT LIVE WITHIN THE CURRENT JURISDICTION. AND I WANT TO SAY PLAINLY TO MY COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND NEIGHBORING ORGANIZATIONS THAT TO THIS WORK. THANKOU. I THANK YOU HUMBLY FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO TO ENSURE THAT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE PROTECTED, OUR ELDERS ARE PROTECTED, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. BUT I ALSO -- AND I KNOW THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CARRYING DRUG PARAPHERNALIA ARE NO NECESSARILY THE USERS OR PEOPLE WHO USE. BUT EVEN WITH OUR INDIVIDUALS THAT USE AND I SHARED A STORY ABOUT MY SON AND MY SISTER. I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THAT AGAIN. BUT IT IS -- WE'RE AT A PRECIPICE OF CHANGE. NOHANGING THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT CLEAN UP THE NEEDLES. BUT ONCE SOMETHING IS DECRIMINALIZED, IT CHANGES THE CULTURE OF THE BEHAVIOR. SO THAT WILL INCREASE WHAT WE ARE SEEING THAT IS ALREADY EXISTING ON THE STREETS. BECAUSE IT IS NOT CRIMINAL. IT TAKES AWAY THAT LEVERAGE OF CONVERSATION THAT I CAN HAVE WITH SOMEONE TO IMPROVE THEIR CONDITION. IT PROVOKES AID TO CONSPIRACY AGAINST ONE'S SELF. THAT'S WHAT

IT DOES. IT PROKES THAT. IT PROVOKES YOU BEING A DANGER TO YOURSELF OR TO OTHERS. AND TO ALL OF MY ORGANIZATNS THAT DO THIS BEAUTIFUL WORK, CLEANING UP THE STREETS AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU GUYS ARE EXTREMELY VALUABLE. WE ARE WORTH MORE THAN THAT. WE ARE WORTH MORE THAN THAT AND A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF JOB SECURITY. WE DON NEED THAT JOB SECURITY. WE NEED REAL SUSTAINABLE JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITY AT WILL SUFFICE US FOR THE LONG-TERM. WE DON'T NEED THAT TYPE OF JOB SECURITY. THAT'S NOT THE TYPE OF JOB SECURITY WE NEED. SO I JUST WANT TO PLACE THE VALUE BACK INTO THE PEOPLE AND THE COMMUNITY. YES, HEPATITIS IS HORRIBLE. AIDS IS HORRIBLE. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE HORRIBLE. BUT WE NEED MORE CLEAR AND COHESIVE INTERVENTION METHODS IN ORDER TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING AMONGST THIS EPIDEMIC OF CHEMICAL SUBSTANCE USE. THIS IS NOT THE ANSWER. I NNOT SUPPORT THIS. AND IT DOESN'T LINE UP WITH THE STATE OF MINNESOTA STATUTES. WE HEARD THAT FROM THE ATTORNEYS ONTUES SO, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHOUT CLARITY, THEY SHOULD RELISTEN TO THAT MESSAGE. READ THE STATUTE ITSELF. BECAUSE THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT LINE UP WITH THE STATUTE AND THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. BECAUSE TRE ARE ALREADY PROTECTIONS WRITTEN AROUND THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE ARE SO GRAVELY CONCERNED ABOUT. WHERE IT PERTAINS TO DRUG PARAPHERNALIA. THOSE PROTECTIONS ALREADY EXIST. THE END.

COUNCIL MEMBER WHITING.

TNK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. ALL RIGHT. COLLEAGUES, YOU WILL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU AN AMENDMENT HERE. SPECIFICALLY, I CAN KIND OF TALK TO IT A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT. BUT IT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER WARREN BROUGHT ON TUESDAY. WITH A FEW ADDITIONAL CHANGES. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'M GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SPEAK ABOUT IT. I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND MY GRATITUDE TO COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AND THE CUTHORS OF THIS ORDINANCE FOR BRINGING THIS UP. AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT TOPIC BERE US. AND WHILE I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE UNDERLYING MOTION BEFORE THIS ORDINANCE BEFORE US TODAY. I THINK LALIZING DRUG PARAPHERNALIA IS AN IMPORTANT STEP TOWARD SAFETY, HUMANELY AND EQUITABLE ADDRESSING AN ADDICTION PROBLEM HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS. WHEN CITIES ORGANIZE TOOLS OF DRUG CONSUMPTION, IT PUTS DRUG USERS -- THIS CAN INCREASE THE SPREAD OF DISEASES LIKE HIV AND HEPATITIS C. ADDITIONALLY WHEN DRUG PARAPHERNALIA IS POLICED IT'S OFTEN IN BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES. EVEN WHEN STUDIES OR RAT OF THE USE -- THEIR WHITE COUNTER PARTS. SO, RIGHT. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH OUR MAYOR AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE. SEVERAL TIMES. IN THE PAST WEEK. AND WHILE WE RESPECTFULLY RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE ON E ORDINANCE. IT'S KIND OF UNDER MY UNDERSTAND AND OTHERS SHARED ON THE BODY, I BELIEVE IT'S LIKELY THAT THIS WILL COME BACK TO US. ADDITIONALLY, WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM ADVOCATES OF THIS POLICY, AT THE STATE LEVEL HAVE EXPRESSED A VETO ON AN ORDINANCE LIKE THIS WOULD HARM THE STATE-WIDE PUBLIC HEALTH EFFORTS TO DECRIMINALIZE PARAPHERNALIA. AND I AGREE WITH THEM. AS THE ONES THAT ARE DOING THIS WORK. MINNEAPOLIS, THE LARGEST CITY I THE STATE, STRIKES DOWN THE ORDINANCE, IT WON'T JUST BE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS. I THINK IT CREATES HELPS CREATE

A CHILLING EFFECT FOR EVERY OTHER MUNICIPALITY LOOKING FOR US TO LEADERSHIP. AND SETTING THE BROADER HARM REDUCTION MOVENT BACK FOR YEARS TO COME. FOR THAT REASON, I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN'T LETERFECT BECOME THE ENEMY OF GOOD TODAY. AND IF WE CAN HELP ONE PERSON THROUGH THE DECRIMINALIZATION OF MA MARIJUANA PARAPHERNALIA, I THINK WE SHOULD. THAT WILL HELP MORE PEOPLE IN THE OVERALL DECRIMINALIZATION EFFORT. THAN PASSING SOMETHING THAT IS E IDEAL BUT WILL COME BACK TO US. I SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE AS THE UNDERLYING ORDINANCET IS. I THINK THE COMPRISE IS NECESSARY TO PASSAGE. AND BEGIN HELPING OUR RESIDENTS IMMEDIATELY. THAT IS WHY I'M MOVING TO AMEND THIS ORDINAE TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE TO LEGALIZE MARIJUANA PARAPHERNALIA. FOR THOSE AT HOME, THIS AMENDMENT UNDOES A PORTION OF MY AMENDMENT FROM TUESDAY. KEEPING THE RESTRICTIONS ON PRELIMINARY DRUGS, PARAPHERNALIA, TO MINORS. BUT EDITS THE PRIOR PARAGRAPHS TO KEEP CURRENT LANGUAGE MINUS MARIJUANA PARAPHNALIA. THIS IS NOT MY PREFERRED OUTCOME AND WILL SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING MOTION IF THIS DOESN'T PASS TODAY. I TAKE THE MAYOR AT HIS WORD AND WANT TO DO SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S INCREMENTAL OR NOT TO MOVE IT FWARD TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORS TODAY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. BUT I THINK WE SPOKE AT THIS AT LENGTH ON TUESDAY. AND SO, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, DID I MOVE THAT CORRECTLY?

AH, SURE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. PRESIDENT PAYNE, WHILE I'M THANKFUL FOR COUNCIL MEMBER WHITING'S WORK AND THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS. I'M SPEAKING AGAINST THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT CREATING INCONSISTENCY WITH MINNESOTA'S 2023 PARAPHERNALIA DECRIMINALIZATION LAW. THIS CARVEOUT LEAVES MINNEAPOLIS -- STATE LAW AND CONTINUE TO HAVE MASSIVE EFFECTS ON THE TRANSMISSION OF HIV AND HEP TITLE C AND DISREGARD PUBLIC HEALTH.

I ADDED MYSELF TO QUEUE. JUST TO SAY I'M GOING TO NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT. I MEAN, THE PURPOSE OF THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT IS TO BRING BEST PRACTICES -- PLIC HEALTH BEST PRACTICES FORWARD AS PART OF OUR OFFICIAL POLICY. WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT STATEWIDE IMPACT, WE ARE A CHARTER CITY. OTHER SMALLER CITIES, STATUTORY CITIES, AND MAYBE THE CLERK AND CITY ATTORNEYS CAN CO CONFIRM THIS. THEY'RE OPERATING UNDER THE STATE LAW. THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO MODIFY, UMM, AH, LOCAL ORDINANCES TO -- TO WORK WITHIN THAT EFFECTIVELY PREEMPTED. WE SHOULDN'T BE WATERING THIS DOWN. THE GOAL HERE IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SPREAD OF DISEASE. THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. BY LIMITING IT TO CANNABIS PARAPHERNALIA, WHICH IS ALREA LEGAL STATEWIDE. I DON'T KNOW IT HAS THE STATED EFFECT OF IMPROVING PUBLIC HEALTH. SO, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE UNRLYING ORDINANCE AND NOT SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT. AND I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER WARREN.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. THROUGH THE PRESIDENT, CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF COUNCIL MEMBER WHITING WITH RESPECT TO THIS ORDINANCE? COUNCIL MEMBER WHITING. PLEASE. SO, WOULD THIS ORDINANCE, YOU ARE CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA TO REME ALL -- OR TO STATE THAT ALL DRUG PARAPHERNALIA IS CONDERED PARAPHERNALIA OTHER THAN ITEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE USE OF MARIJUANA? AM I UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY. THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY, YEAH.

OKAY. AND SO THE ITEMS ON HERE THAT ARE CROSSED OUT ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING EXCLUDED FROM THIS ORDINANCE? CORRECT. AND THEY ARE ALL RELATED TO MARIJUANA OR CANNABIS PRODUCTS. OKAY. AND SO THAT INCLUDES ITEM NUMBER THREE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMPLETELY CROSSED OUT. JUST THE NUMBER IS CROSSED OUT. AND LETTER F, G, I, J, K. BECAUSE THEY'RE FULLY CROSSED OUT. BUT THIS ONE HAS PART OF THE LETTERS CROSSED OUT. I WAS JUST CONFUSED.

YES. AND MY UNDERSTANDING WITH, THAT'S JUST A FORMATTING ISSUE THERE. AND SO, RIGHT, WE CROSSED OUT TWO ABOVE AND SO THREE BECOMES TWO. BECAUSE ALL OF THE PROCEEDING T HAS BEEN STRICKEN. AND SO NOW IT BECOMES THE NEW TWO. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR MOVING THIS, COUNCIL MEMBER WHITING. YOU CAN ADD ME AS A CO-AUTHOR TO THIS. AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS ORDINANCE. SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, I'LLSK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE WHITING AMENDMENT. CHOWDHURY. NO. STEVEN SOB. NO. RAINVILLE. AYE. VETAW. AYE. PALMISANO. AYE.

CHAVEZ. NO. WARREN. AYE. SHAFFER. AYE. WONSLEY. NO. CHUGHTAI. NO. WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. NO. PRESIDENT PAYNE. NO. THERE ARE SIX AYES AND SEVEN NAYS. THAT FAILS. AND WE WILL RETURN TO THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT OR ORDINANCE. I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK THE I'VE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES FROM COLLEAGUES ON THIS DAIS A VALUE THAT IS IMPORTANT TO US AS A BODY IS LISTENG TO EXPERTS. RIGHT. UMM, BECAUSE -- BECAUSE, UMM, YOU KNOW, ARE NOT -- AH, I AM NOT A PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. WE AUALLY ONLY HAVE ONE, UMM, ON THIS BODY. UMM, BUT I BELIEVE THE PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERTS WHEN THEY COME IN AND TESTIFY TO US AT OUR PUBLIC HEARING IN THE PUBLIC FORUM, UMM, WHO DO THIS WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY. THEY'VE STUDIED IT. THEY PRACTICE THIS WORK EVERY DAY. TELLING US HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. HOW MUCH IT CAN BE A TOOL TO SAVE LIVES. FOR US TO DECRIMINALIZE THE POSSESSION O DRUG PARAPHERNALIA. RIGHT. UMM, I ALSO -- AND I'M NOT A PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERT;RIGHT. BUE NOT DECRIMINALIZING THE USE OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA IN PUBLIC. WE'RE DECRIMINALIZING THE POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA. THO THINGS ARE DIFFERENT FROM ONE ANOTHER. DRUG USE IN PUBLIC CONTINUES TO BE ILLEGAL. EVEN WITH THE PASSAGE OF THIS POLICY. ANOTHER VALUE I HEAR FROM COLLEAGUES ON THIS BODY, AND I THINK WE CAN

AGREE, IS SOMETHING THAT, UMM, THAT WE ALL ASPIRE TO. IS, AH, IS BUILDING CONSENSUS. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THINKT'S, AH, I THINK IT'S, ACTUALLY, WHAT'S NEEDED IN -- IN THE, UMM, PRESERVATION OF LOCAL DEMOCRACY. UMM, AND WHAT I REALLY APPRECIATE ABOUT THIS POLICY IS THE -- THE TYPE OF CONSENSUS THAT WAS BUILT AT THE STATE LEVEL WHEN THIS EXACT POLICY WAS PASSED. AT THE LEGISLATURE. RIGHT. WITH SUPPORT FROM REPRESENTATIVE WALTER HUDSON, WHO REPRESES THE FURTHEST RIGHT WING OF THE LEGISLARE AND SUPPORT FROM T SENATOR WHO REPRESENTS THE FURTHEST LEFT WING OF THE LEGISLATURE. AND SUPPORT FROM GOVERNOR WALZ, WHO IS THE LEADER OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN THIS -- IN THIS STATE. SO, IF ALL THREE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO RARELY AGREE ON -- ON -- ON SOMETHING TOGETHER CAN FD THAT TYPE OF CONSENSUS, IT ALARMS ME THAT WE CAN'T DO THA HERE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. ON THIS BODY, WE VALUE LISTENING TO EXPERTS. ON THIS BODY, WE VALUE BUILDING CONSENSUS. THIS POLICY IS A PRODUCT OF BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. I WOULD HOPE TO SEE UNANIMOUS SUPPORT. I ENCOUGE MY COLLEAGUES TO REFLECT ON WHETHER LISTENG TO EXPERTS AND BUILDING CONSENSUS ARE ACTUAL VAES WE HOLD OR NOT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY.

THANK YOU. I'LL KEEP MY REMARKS REALLY BRIEF. BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE ANXIOUS TO VOTE ON THIS. SOME OF THE THINGS I HEARD AROUND THE ORDINANCE IS THE CRIMINALIZATION OF PARAPHERNALIA IS NECESSARY TO FIND DRUGS AND DRUG DEALERS AND THESE HIT RATES WHILE SELDOM AREN'T NECESSARY AND FRUITFUL. THAT IS THE SAME EXACT LANGUAGE AND ARGUMENTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE USED FOR DECADES TO SAY WHY WE NEED STOP AND FRISK. YOU CAN LITERALLY TAKE DRUG CRIMINALIZATION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA AND COMPARE IT TO LANGUAGE THAT WAS USED FOR STOP AND FRISK. AND YOU CAN FIND A ONE-TO-ONE. AND I THINK THAT'S WORTH THINKING ABOUT. AND I AL THINK THAT IN THIS COUNTRY, WE HAVE HAD SO MANY M MOMENTS IN TIME WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REFORM THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM TO ADDRE CRIME THAT HAPPENS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHILE NOT OVERPOLICING AND CRIMINALIZING COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T BE CRIMES. RIGHT. CARRYG A NEEDLE. HAVING AN ADDICTION. SO THOSE ARE MY REMARKS. UMM, IT'S CLEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIVIDED VOTE ON THIS. BUT IT IS ALSO CLEAR THAT THERE IS UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FOR US TO HELP FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADDRESS SUBSTANCE USE DISORDERS AND ADDICTION IN OUR COMMUNITIES. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE, LET'S NOT COUNT OUT HARM REDUCTION AS AALUABLE TOOL IN THIS. LET'S NOT RELY ON PUNITIVE MEASURES. WE WON'T GET THE END RESULT WE WANT.

COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. THANK YOU. BEFORE MY COMMENT, I JUST -- I SEE THE CITY ATTORNEY IS STILL HERE. AND I HAVE A QUESTION OF YOU, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND ANSWERING IT, PLEASE. MR. BURNSTEIN. IS THERE SUCH A -- A -- RULE OR BOOKS AS ATTEMPTED LOITERING. I THOUGHT IT WAS TEN OUT BY THE CITY COUNCIL YEARS AGO. THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVIL, THERE IS AN ORDINANCE FOR LOITERING. THE LURKING ORDINANCE WAS THE ONE REPEALED.

LURKING. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS. BECAUSE WE TALKED TO OUR EXPERTS. THE EXPERTS THAT INFLUENCES ME THE MOST IS THE CHIEF OF T METRO TRANSIT POLICE. HE EXPLAINED WHAT A VALUE TOOL THIS IS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM AT THE LAKE STREET LIGHT RAIL STOP, THE UPTOWN BUS STOP. IN MY WARD, AH, THE LARGEST COMPLAINTS I GET ARE FROM PEOPLE USING -- TRYING TO USE MASS TRANSIT BUT BECAUSE OF THE DRUG USE SO I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THIS TODAY AFTER LISTENING TO THE METRO TRANSIT CHIEF OF POLICE. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. SO, I DO NOT BELIEVEHAT THIS IS BAD POLICY. AND I'M GRATEFUL TO COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ FOR DELAYING THIS FOR SOME TIME. WHAT I THINK IS HAPPENING, THOUGH, FOR ME, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED ON A LOT OF PUBLIC HEALTH POLICY IS, THIS IS MISSING A COMPONENT OF HAVING COMMUNITY ON BOARD FOR SUCH A POLICY SHIFT THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. THE FEEDBACK I'M GETTING FROM PEOPLE IS FEAR. PEOPLE ARE AFRAID. AND I CAN'T JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH POLICY. I NEVER HAVE. AND I NEVER WILL. MY ENTIRE 20-YEAR PUBLIC HEALTH POLICY CAREER, I WOULD FREEZE TO STOP POLICY WHEN PEOPLE FELT LIKE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A VOICE IN IT, OR THEY WERE FEARFUL OF WHA COULD HAPPEN AFTER A POLICY PASSED. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, FOR ME. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE REACHING OUT TO ME, ARE AFRAID. I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S A BAD POLIT POLICY. BUT I THINK IT'S BAD TO MOVE POLICY WHEN COMMUNITY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POLICY WILL BE FOR THEM. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD SOME TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, IN THEIR BUSINESSES, AT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS. AND THEY'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. SO I KNOW SOMEONE SAID EARLIER THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TIMING. TIMING IS EVERYTHING WHEN YOU'RE CHANGING POLICY. THAT IS A BIG PART OF THIS WORK. THIS COULD HAVE MAYBE GOT A UNANIMOUS VOTE IN SIX MONTHS. BUT PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN FEAR. PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO RESTORE THEIR BUSISSES. THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, THEIR COMMUNITIES FROM WHAT JUST HAPPENED IN MINNEAPOLIS. AND THEN THEY'RE FACED WITH THIS, AND THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS BAD POLICY. I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO CRIMINALIZE PEOPLE WITH PARAPHERNALIA. BUT I THINK IT'S BAD TIMING. I THINK WE HAVE NOT DONE THE WORK AND I

DON'T SEE PATHWAY OF US DOING THE WORK TO EDUCATEND TO TEACH PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. I DON'T BELIEVE WE BUILT A COALITION OF PEOPLE WHO CAN HELP US TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT TO PEOPLE THAT THIS ISN'T TERRIBLE POLICY. ANOTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT WHEN YOU'RE CHANGING POLICIES LIKE THIS. YOU NEED A COALITION. YOU NEED A BROAD COALITION OF PEOPLE. AND THAT'S WHAT THE STATE HAD THAT WE DON'T HAVE. BECAUSE THIS WORK LOOKS BETTER IF WE HAD BUILT A COALITION WITH METRO TRANSIT, WITH SCHOOLEADERS, WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WITH OUR PARK POLICE. I MEAN, THAT IS WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS MISSING HERE. AND IT'S OFF. IT DOESN'T -- IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE INCLUDING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE MOST AFFECTED BY THIS. THE RESIDENTS OF MINNEAPOLIS. THE BUSINS OWNERS OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND SO, I WOULD CHALLENGE US TO THINK OUT THAT IN THE FUTURE. IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE DOI SOMETHING THAT'S WRONG OR RIGHT. IT REALLY IS ABOUT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM IN PLACE FOR FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND OR THERE IS NO WAY THAT, UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MONITOR, LIKE, IF PEOPLE ARE BEING WALKED UP TO AND BEING -- LIKE, -- THERE'S NOTHING THERE. AND IT'S SCARY. PEOPLE -- I JUST WANT MY COLLEAGUES T KNOW THIS MORE THAN ANYTHING, THE PEOPLE WHO REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT THIS THAT ARE IN FEAR, THEY ARE IN FEAR. THEY HAVE BEEN TRAUMATIZED IN OUR CITY BY SOME THINGS THAT SOME OF US HAV NEVER SEEN BEFORE. AND I WOULD NEVER EVER, EVER TAKE AWAY THEIR EXPERIENCES FROM THEM. THEIR VOICES NEED TO BE HEARD, ALSO. AND I REALLY DO THINK WHEN WE MAKE BIG LIFE-CHANGING DECISIONS LIKE THIS, WE HAVE TO VALUE THEIR VOICES AND THEIR EXPERIENCES.

SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. STEVENSON. AYE. RAINVILLE. NO. VETAW. NO. PALMISANO. NO. CHAVEZ. AYE. WARREN. NO. SHAFFER. NO. WONSLEY. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. NO. PRESIDENT PAY. AYE. THERE ARE SEVEN AYES AND SIX NAYS.

THAT CARRIES. AND THAT COMPLETES THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. NEXT ENTERPRISE AND LABOR RELATIONS COMMITTEE, PRESENTED BY ITS CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO.

MR. PRESIDENT, THE ELR COMMITTEE HAS EIGHT ITEMS. FIRST IS A CONTRACT WITH CLAIMS MANAGEMENT RESOURCES FOR RELATED SOCIAL SECURITIES IN THE ANNUAL AMOUNT OF $350,000 FOR A THREE-YEAR PERIOD. TWO IS A CONTRACT WITH PAYMENTTUS FOR AN ENTERPRISE PLATFORM SYSTEM. THREE AND FOUR ARE SIMILAR BUT HAVE DIFFERENT VENDORS. CONTRACT AMENDMENTS WITH AUTOMATED LOGIC MINNESOTA FOR BUILDING AUTOMATION SYSTEM SERVICE AND CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH NAC BUILDING TECHNOLOGIES FOR THE SAME THING. FIVE IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH WEST PUBLISHING FOR ONLINE LEGAL RESEARCH SERVICES. SIX IS A CONTRACT WITH HDR FOR ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING CONSULTING. SEVEN IS A CONTRACT WITH WOLD ARCHITECTS FOR ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING DESIGN. EIGHT IS A BID FOR PROSPECT PARK WATER TOWER RESTORATION. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE FULL REPORT.

COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE REPORT. I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY.

THANK YOU, PASSENG PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANT TOP MAKE DEPENDS REGARDING EIGHT. ACCEPTING A BID FOR CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL HELP SUPPORT THE REOPENING OF THE WITCH'S HAT, A BELOVED NEIGHBORHOOD GEM IN PROSPECT PARK. IT'S ALSO BEEN OUT OF COMMISSION SINCE 2019. SINCE I ENTERED OFFICE BACK IN 2022. RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN PERSISTENT IN ORGANIZING TO GET THE TOWER REPAIRED AND OPEN BACK UP TO THE PUBLIC. THERE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PATIENCE DEMONSTRATED ON THEIR END, AS THRIVE WORKED WITH MY OFFICE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS NEEDED TO BE DONE. AND WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRING AND MAINTAINING THE TOWER. WE LEARNED THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE AND THAT LED OF JUST YEARS OF ONGOING EFFORTS AND COLLABORATION AND ORGANIZING THAT LED TO CITY COUNCIL PASSING A SUCCESSFUL BUDGET AMENDMENT, UMM, IN OUR 2023 BUDGET MARK-UP SESSION TO SUPPORT THE RENOVATION OF THE TOWER. SO THAT IT CAN BECOME OPEN AGAIN. UMM, AND WHILE I THINK NO ONE COULD HAVE FORESAW IT WOULD HAVE TOOK TWO YEARS -- A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS TO SEE THE FUNDING BE REALIZED. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT MY APPRECIATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN THEIR PERSISTENCE AND PATIENCE FOR US TO GET TO THIS POINT. I'M EAGER TO SEE THOSE REPAIRS BEING COMPLETED, SO THAT IT CANNOT ONLY BE ENJOYED BY IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS, BUT AS HIGHLIGHTED DURING THE BUDGET DISCUSSION, BUT, UMM, BE SOMETHING ENJOYED AS A HISTORICAL AND APPRECIATED LANDMARK BY RESIDENTS ALL ACROSS MINNEAPOLIS. AND EVEN FAR BEYOND OUR CITY. UMM, AND I'M EXCITED TO ALSO, HOPEFULLY, BE PART OF THE ICE CREAM SOCIAL ACTIVITIES. BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ACTION ITEM. IT DOES BRING US ONE STEP CLOSER TOWARDS THE REOPENING DAY OF THE TOWER. AND NONE OF THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THE NEIGHBORS WHO'VE CARED SO MUCH AND HAD

VOLUNTEERED THEIR OWN TIME TO MAINTAIN AND ADVOCATE FOR THIS LANDMARK. SO, THAT SAID, UMM, I'M EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS ITEM. SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE I'LL ASK THE CLERK TOALL THE ROLL ON THE COMMITTEE RE REPORT. CHOWDHURY. AYE. STEVENSON. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. VETAW. AYE. PALMISANO. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. WARREN. AYE. SHAFFER. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. 13 AYES.

THAT CARRIES. AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. FINALLY, WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND EQUITY COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND EQUITY COMMITTEE HAS 11 ITEMS TO BRING FORWARD. ONE IS CONSIDERING PASSAGE OF AN ORDER IN ADDITION RELATED TO IMMIGRATION STATUS OF RENTERS. THIS WAS MOVED WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. TWO IS PASSAGE OF AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO ENCAMPMENT REPORTING POLICY. THREE IS AUTHORIZING THE SUBMITTAL OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL JUSTICE GRANT THROUGH HENNEPIN COUNTY. FOUR IS SUBMITTAL OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE FEDERAL OFFICE OF NATIONAL DRUG CONTROL POLICY FOR DRUG NEXUS SUPPLIES. FIVE IS AUTHORIZING GRANT FOR THE MINNESOTA SCHOOL-BASED HEALTH CENTER GRANT FOR HEALTH EDUCATION PROGRAM. SIX IS GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FOOD AND DRUG OFFICIALS. SEVEN IS APPROVING A FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY OF MINNEAPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. EIGHT IS APPROVING A RENTAL DWELLING LICENSE REINSTATEMENT. NINE IS APPROVING A PUBLIC SAFETY POLICIES AND PRACTICES RELATED TO PUBLIC GATHERINGS AND TRANSPARENCY LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. 10 IS ENCAMPMENT RESPONSE POLICIES STAFF DIRECTION. 11 IS AMENDING OPERATION METRO SURGE POLICE DEPARTMENT OVERTIME EXPENSES, LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE, REPORTING DATE, AND PRESENTATION. I MOVE APPROVAL.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE REPORT, INCLUDING RECOMMENDING FOR APPROVAL IN ITEM NUMBER ONE. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ.

AH, THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE RENTER IMMIGRATION STATUS PRIVACY AND ANTI-RETALIATION ORDINANCE THAT WAS ON THERE FOR MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, MAJORITY LEADER CHUGHTAI, AND VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. IN RESPONSE TO OPERATION METRO SURGE. WE'RE AUTHORING MEANT TO PROTECT RENTERS. I'VE HEARD FROM OUR NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE BEEN THREATENED TO GET I.C.E. CALLED ON THEIR LANDLORDS BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T PAY RENT AND A VARIETY OF HORRIFIC INCIDENTS. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR ALL THE HELP WITH THIS ORDINANCE. AND THE QUICK TURN AROUND. WE HAVE FOLKS WHO I'M THANKFUL FOR THE CREATIVITY AROUND THIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. MR. CHAIR, COULD WE PULL OUT ITEM NUMBER TWO. WE HAVE DIRECTOR VELAZQUEZ COMING IN. I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE. TAKE ITEM TWO AS A SEPARATE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER WARREN.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT. THAT REALLY SADDENS ME TO HEAR THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE. BECAUSE THAT IS DEFINITELY A VIOLATION OF FAIR HOUSING LAWS. SO, IF INDIVIDUALS ARE BEING TARGETED OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WITH THESE LANDLORDS DOING THIS IN VIOLATION OF FAIR HOUSING, I THINK WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF RENTAL LICENSES FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DISCRIMINATING AND TARGETING OR THREATENING ACTS OF VIOLENCE AGAINST COMMUNITY MEMBERS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR RACE OR NATIONALITY. LIKE, THIS IS -- THAT'S REALLY SERIOUS. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD -- SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO DEEPER CONSIDERATION. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO THE ATTENTION. BECAUSE THAT SPEAKS TO MULTIPLE VOLUMES ON MULTIPLE LEVELS AS IT PERTAINS TO RESIDENTS LIVING IN PLACES AND HAVING THREATS OF -- OF IMMIGRATION OR DEPORTATION OR VIOLENCE INFLICTED UPON THEM FOR LIVING IN A PLACE BECAUSE THAT'S A VIOLATION OF FAIR HOUSING.

VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I DO WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AND ALL THE CO-AUTHORS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE SEEN -- SINCE THIS ADMINISTRATION DONALD TRUMP, THAT IMMIGRATION OR IMMIGRANTS HAVE BECOME THE FINGER POINT. LIKE, THEY HAVE BECOME THE TABOO THAT SOMEHOW THEY'RE BAD OR THIS AND THIS. THERE'S THIS CAMPAIGN AND THIS ATTACK FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND WE HAVE SEEN HATE CRIMES RISING UP. BECAUSE OF THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, DISCRIMINATION IS WHAT FOLLOW UP. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY THIS IS PREVENTION TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE NOT HAPPENING IN OUR CITY. WE HAVE IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE. WHO HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF OUR KNOWNTY FOR FOR -- COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME. AND ASKING SOMEBODY THEIR DOCUMENT STAY IT US IS WRONG, IN MY OPINION. AND LET ME JUST SAY THIS, IMMIGRATION IS VERY COMPLICATED SYSTEM WE DON'T UNDERSTAND. THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE WAITING ASYLUM AND HAVE THEIR CASE HEARD. AND ESCAPING FROM WAR OR FAMINE OR YOU NAME IT. ALL KIND OF HORRIBLE THINGS. TO COME HERE FOR SAFETY, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE A STATUS. BUT, GUESS WHAT, THEY HAVE A SOCIAL SECURITY. THEY HAVE A WORK PERMIT. THERE'S A PATHWAY FOR THEM TO WORK WHILE THEIR CASE IS PENDING. AND I CAN'T IMAGINE SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, STATING WHAT'S YOUR DOCUMENTATION TO STAY HERE. THAT'S IMMIGRATION'S JOB. IT'S NOT LANDLORDS OR IT'S NOT ANYBODY EVEN EMPLOYERS TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT DISCRIMINATED. PEOPLE WITH ACCENTS, IMMIGRANTS, LIKE ME

HAVE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ATTACKS THAT HAVE THE PRESIDENT TRUMP AND RIGHT-WING FOLKS CONTINUE TO PICK. SO, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR STANDING UP AND SUPPORTING THIS. IT MEANS A LOT TO ME AND MANY IMMIGRANTS IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT -- THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANT TO HOLD UP THIS IS A REALLY SUBSTANTIVE ACTION WE'RE TAKING ON THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS GUARANTEEING A LEVEL OF HOUSING SECURITY AND SAFETY FOR OUR IMMIGRANT RESIDENTS. AND THROUGHOUT OPERATION METRO SURGE AND YEARS BEFORE, OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES HAVE FACED INQUIRIES ABOUT THEIR STATUS FROM LANDLORDS. AND IT HAS MADE THEM FEEL AFRAID AND AT TIMES HAS LED TO PEOPLE BEING IN A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE DEPORTED OR THEIR FAMILIES ARE TORN AWAY. SO THIS IS A VERY SUBSTANTIVE ACTION THAT THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL IS TAKING AS IT COMES TO HOUSING AND SAFETY. AND WE WORKED ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT. AND I'M REALLY PROUD THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER STEP TOWARDS PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALSO IMMIGRANT JUSTIC

COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT JUST IN CONSIDERATION OF COUNCILMEMBER WARREN'S COMMENTS, ONE THING THAT I THINK THIS CAME OUT OF IN TERMS OF THE ORDINANCE THAT COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ IS BRINGING FORWARD WAS ALSO IN RESPONSE TO THE WORK THAT WE DID AROUND THE CIVIL RIGHTS ORDINANCE THAT ACTUALLY COVERS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND WE RECOGNIZED THERE WAS A NEED TO UPDATE AND STRENGTHEN IT AND WE DID THAT LAST MAY. SO WE DO HAVE, AS A RESULT OF THAT ORDINANCE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN REACH OUT IF THEY ARE FACING THAT LEVEL OF DISCRIMINATION, WE ADDED ADDITIONAL PROTECTIVE STATUS TO GET SUPPORT FROM OUR CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION IF NEED BE ON THEIR BEHALVES. SO WE DO HAVE THAT, BUT IN OUR EFFORTS TO ALSO TRY TO TACKLE THIS PIECE, WE REALIZED THERE WAS SOME LIMITATIONS AND I'M THANKFUL THAT COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ DIDN'T STOP THE WORK IN LIGHT OF THOSE LIMITATIONS AND FOUND AN AVENUE FOR US TO ALSO EXTEND PROTECTIONS FOR IMMIGRANT RESIDENTS WHO ARE ALSO EXPERIENCING RETALIATION, ALL DIFFERENT SORTS OF DISCRIMINATION AND ARE DESERVING OF SUPPORT FROM THE CITY AS WELL AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF US TODAY. BUT I AT LEAST WANT TO NAME WE DO HAVE A STRENGTHENED CIVIL RIGHTS ORDINANCE THAT ALSO I THINK COMPLEMENTS THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE THAT ALSO REACHES AND SUPPORTS A VARIETY OF JUST ISSUES AND MATTERS IN WHICH RESIDENTS CAN BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST. SO I WANTED TO UPLIFT TT WORK TOO.

COUNCILMEMBER WARREN.

THANK YOU FOR COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ AND COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY FOR UPLIFTING THAT AND FOR THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AROUND THAT FAIR HOUSING AND SAFE HOUSING IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME AND SUSTAINABLE HOUSING. SO I'D LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A CO-AUTHOR TO THIS IN SUPPORT OF ENSURING THAT OUR RESIDENTS THAT RESIDE HERE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS OR ANYWHERE HERE IN MINNESOTA, FAIR HOUSING LAWS ARE FEDERAL LAWS AND NEED TO BE SUPPORTED AND UPLIFTED. SO IF INDIVIDUALS ARE HAVING THESE TYPE OF PROBLEMS OR WHATEVER, LET US KNOW, LET'S FILE HUD COMPLAINTS. WE WANT TO STAND WITH YOU WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING DISCRIMINATION. BECAUSE THAT'S A REAL PLACE. AND NO ONE SHLD BE DISCRIMITED AGAINST OR THREATENED TO FEEL UNSAFE IN THEIR HOUSING UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES REGARDLESS TO WHO YOU ARE, WHERE YOU COME FROM. IT DOES NOT WEIGH A FACTOR IN WHETHER YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE ACCESS TO SAFE, SUITABLE, AND SUSTAINABLE HOUSING. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK IN THAT.

COUNCILMEMBER WHITING. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. QUESTION HERE, JUST QUICK QUESTION. I THINK PROBABLY MOST SUITED FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY HERE. JUST READING THROUGH, I THINK I REMEMBER READING THIS SOMEWHERE ON HERE. BUT IT'S LOOKING LIKE UNDER THE PROHIBITION ON IMMIGRATION STATUS INQUIRY UNDER EXEMPTIONS, I KNOW SOMETIMES WITH OUR FEDERAL HOUSING PROGRAMS, IT REQUIRES IMMIGRATION STATUS. I'M ASSUMING THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S INCLUDED IN THOSE EXEMPTIONS? COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER, YES, THAT WOULD BE IF IT'S A REQUIREMENT A CONDITION OF A PARTICULAR BENEFIT, THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT INQUIRY WOULD BE LAWFUL. THANK YOU, THAT'S ALL.

VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. OKAY, GOT IT. SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE COMMITTEE REPORT MINUS ITEM NUMBER TWO. COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WARREN. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER CHUGHTAI. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES.

THAT CARRIES AND THOSE ITEMS ARE ADOPTED. AND WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER TWO AND I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAD ASKED IF DECTOR VALESQUEZ COULD OFFER SOME CLARITY. I UNDERSTAND THIS SHOULD BE A PRIMARY ORDINANCE UPDATING CODE WITH DEFINITIONS. AND I CAN SEE FOR THE MOST PART IT DOES EXACTLY THAT. BUT I DO HAVE QUESTIONS AND POSSIBLE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PRACTICAL IMPACT OF A COUPLE OF DEFINITION CHANGES. DIRECTOR, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU, THROUGH THE CHAIR. IN THIS ORDINANCE, CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND WHO COMPLETES THIS RERT IF AN ENCAMPMENT IS CLOSED? IS IT THE HOMELESS RESPONSE TEAM? SOMEE ON YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM? OR DO YOU HAVE THAT FIGURED OUT YET?

DIRECTOR. YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. ENRIQUE VELASQUEZ, DIRECTOR OF REGULATORY SERVICES. WE WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS, WE WORK WITH MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, HOMELE RESPONSE TEAM, AND I'M THE FINAL AUTHOR AND CURATOR, PULLER TOGETHER OF ALL OF THE VARIOUS DATA ELEMENTS TO PREPARE THE REPORT AND SUBT IT, INCLUDING THE PRESENTATION.

THERE'S A CHANGE TO THE DEFINITION OF NONSHELTER PLACEMENT FROM A GENERIC STABILIZATION BED TO A MORE SPECIFIC HOSPITAL DETOX OR MENTAL HEALTH HOLD. I THINK THAT'S FINE FOR US TO BE MORE CLEAR, BUT DOES THAT CHANGE ORAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO HOW YOU REPORT OUTCOMES AND WILL IT INCREASE STAFF TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS KIND OF REPORTING? DIRECTOR.

THANK YOU. THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO, WE HAVE TO STILL DO SOME EVALUATION OF WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN. THAT'S CURRENTLY DATA THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO EITHER THROUGH THE COUNTY OR THROUGH ANYF THEIR PARTNERS IN TERMS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE EXIT HOMELESSNESS OR SHELTERED HOMELESSNESS THROUGH DETOX OR ANY OF THESE OTHER AVENUES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED. AND DUE TO HIPAA AND OTHER OTECTIONS, THAT'S KIND OF A BARRIER THAT WE AREN'T ABLE TO OVERCOME AT THE MOMENT. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER PARTNERS WITHIN THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO SEE HOW CAN WE GET AT THAT INFORMATION. IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE TO GET AT THE INFORMATION? AND IF NOT, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO STILL CONTINUE REPORTING ON THOSE OUTCOMES THE WAY WE CURRENTLY DO.

YEAH. ALSO SOMETHING CONCEING TO ME WAS THE CHANGE OF THE DEFINITION OF ENCAMPMENT. IN THE EXISTING ORDINANCE IT'S DEFINED AS A GROUPING OF TENTS OR TENT-LIK STRUCTURES. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE DEFINES AN ENCAMPMENT AS ONE OR MORE TENT OR TENT-LIKE STRUCTURES. SO IT MOVES BASICALLY A PLURAL TO A SINGULAR. I KNOW THAT SEEMS LIKE A SMALL CHANGE, BUT IT COULD HAVE A PRETTY LARGE IMPACT ON THE REPORTING THAT'S ALREADY REQUIRED BY THIS ORDINANCE. DON'T WE CLEAR SGLE TENTS PRETTY FREQUENTLY, MAYBE EVEN TRESPASSING SOMEBODY OFF A PROPERTY?

THROUGH THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO, I BELIEVE THATPECIFIC CHANGE WAS TO ALIGN THE ORDINANCE DEFINITION WITH WHAT OUR OPERATIONAL DEFINITION HAS BEEN. THOUGH WHEN WE DO HAVE INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S A SINGLE TENT, WE WOUL CONSIDER THAT AN ENCAMPMENT AS WELL AND WE WOULD REPORT ON THOSE SITUATIONS AS WELL. SO WE DO THAT ALREADY? YES, MA'AM.

THAT'S HELPFUL. I MEAN, I THINK THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE TO BE JUST CLEAR EYED AND CONSIDER WHO'S RESPONSIBLE NOW FOR THA EXTRA REPORTING. AND I DON'T THINK THAT OUR INTENTION WAS TO PUT THIS ONUS ON YOU FOR ALL OTHE THINGS THAT YOU ALREADY DO AND THEN MAKE YOU THE AUTHOR OF THIS KIND OF REPORTING. THIS ISN'T EARTH SHATTERING OR DEAL BRKING, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SPEAK OUT LOUD AND RECOGNIZE THE IMPACT TO STAFF OF SOME OF THESE CHANGES. THE IMPACT TO STAFF HERE DOESN'T SEEM QUITE AS SUBSTANTIAL AS I HAD BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT. BUT THANK YOU. THANKS FOR HELPING TO CLARIFY.>. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN.

YES, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE CLERK. WHY IS THIS ITEM ON PHS BUT NOT ON BHZ? I'M KIND OF A LITTLE CONFUSED HERE.

MR. PRESIDENT, THE QUESTION AS I UNDERSTAND IS WHY DID THIS COME THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND EQUITY COMMITT AS OPPOSED TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY? MR. WALSH WAS WHISPERING TO ME DILIGENTLY, BECAUSE UNDER OUR COMMITTEE STRUCTURES LICENSING AND INSPECTIONS ARE PART OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY EQUITY COMMITTEE. THAT WAS A CHANGE THAT WAS MADE FROM LAST TERM SINCE THERE'S SOME LOOKS AROUND LAST YEAR, THAT WAS SPLIT BETWEEN TWO COMMITTEES. AND THIS YEAR WE CONSOLIDATED, WE THE COUNCIL, CONSOLIDATED THAT ALL OF THAT FUNCTION WOULD BE UNDER ONE COMMITTEE INSTEAD OF SPLIT BETWEEN TWO. COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY.

YEAH. JUST TO THAT POINT, I KNOW WHAT THE ENCAMPMENT REPORTING ORDINANCE WHEN WE FIRST TOOK THIS UP EVEN LAST TERM, THIS WENT THROUGH PHS, IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH BHZ. BUT I DO HAVE A REQUEST TO THE PRESIDENT, TO REEVALUATE HOW REGULATORY REPORTS TO OUR COMMITTEES. BECAUSE I DO THINK REGULATORY S TO BHZ AND THAT SHOULD BE A CHANGE THAT IS CONSIDERED TO THIS BODY. AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS ALSO INTEREST FROM THE REGULATY SERVICES DEPARTMENT IN CONVERSATION WITH THE DIRECTOR TO DO THAT. SO WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OFFLINE AFTER THIS, BUT I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DOES NEED TO GET RESOLVED.

YEP, HAPPY TO HAVE THAT FOLLOW-UP CONVERSATION. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ AND IS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE ORDINANCE AT HAND? NO.>> OKAY. WITH THAT, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WARREN. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. AYE. COUNCILMEMBERWHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES.

THAT CARRIES AND THAT COMPLETES THE PHSE REPORT AND THE REPORT OF ALL OF OUR COMMITTEES. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS NOTICE OF ORDINANCE INTRODUCTIONS. WE HAVE ONE NOTICE THAT WAS ADDED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. NOTICE OF INTENT TO INTRODUCE AT THE NEXT MEETING THE SUBJECT MATTERF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE HEALTH AND SANITATION CODE TO ADDRESS GAPS IN THE HEALTH PARTMENT'S AUTHORITY TO ACT TO REDUCE THE SPREAD OF INFECTIOUS DISEASES. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS NOTICE? SEEING NONE, THAT NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN AND NO FURTHER ACTION IS REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR. WE HAVE THREE ITEMS TODAY. FIRST, COUNCIL MEMBERS VETAW AND PALMISANO MOVE TO A MID THE PRIOR INTRODUCTION OF THE SUBJECT MATTER OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING CODE GIVEN AT THE REGULAR MEETING ON FEBRUARY 19, 2026, BY UPDATING THE DESCRIPTION TO READ AMENDING FENCE REGUTIONS. SECOND, COUNCIL MEMBERS CHOWDHURY AND CHAVEZ GAVE NOTICE AT OUR LAST MEETING OF THEIR INTENT TO INTRODUCE THE SUBJECT MATTER OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 21 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES ADDING A NEW CHAPT 597 PROVIDING FOR A MORATORIUM ON THE ESTABLISHMENT, REESTABLISHMENT, OR EXPANON OF DATA CENTER USES. TODAY THE AUTHORS ARE MOVING TO POSTPONE THE INTROCTION OF THIS ITEM TO OUR REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULED FOR MAY 21ST. FINALLY, PURSUANT TO NOTICE, COUNCILMEMBER WHITING MOVES TO INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ADMINISTRATION CODE FOR FIRST READING AND REFERRAL TO THE ENTERPRISE & LABOR RELATIONS COMMITTEE AMENDING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR COMPLETION OF ETHICS EDUCATION. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE ITEMS AS LISTED ON THE AGENDA INCLUDING THE MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM NUMBER TWO?

SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. LET'S TAK UP ITEM 1 AND 3 THAT HAVE BEEN MOVED FOR APPROVAL. 'LL HOLD ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. AND I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ITEMS 1 AND 3. COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WARREN. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER CHUGHTAI. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE.

THERE ARE 13 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THOSE MATTERS HAVE BEEN REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEES LISTED ON THE AGENDA. AND I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY AROUND MORATORIUMS IN GENERAL. I HAVE HEARD THAT LEGALLY ONCE A MORATORIUM IS INTRODUCED, EVEN BEFORE A VOTE, THAT IT GOES INTO EFFECT. IS THAT UE? AND CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?

MADAM CITY ATTORNEY.>> COUNC MEMBER, YES. SO UNDER OUR ZONING CODE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ESSENTIALLY PASS AN INTERIM ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PUT A MORATORIUM ON ESSENTIALLY IT WOULD ALLOW US TO PASS AN INTERIM ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REGULATE, RESTRICT, OR PROHIBIT THE ESTABLISHMENT OR EXPANSION OF USE DEVELOPMENT OR PROJECT WITH RESPECT TO OUR ZONING CODE. AND UNDERUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE MORATORIUM DOES ACTUALLY GET TRIGGERED ONCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE INTERIM ORDINANCE IS PASSE BY THIS BODY. AND ESSENTIALLY, I CAN GIVE YOU CITATIONS AND EVERYTHING. IT'S MINNEAPOLIS CODE OF ORDINANCES 525.830 EFFECTIVE DATE IORDER TO PROTECT THE PLANNING PROCESS AND THE CITY'S LEGITIMATE PLANNING GOALS, THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF A INTERIM ORDINANCE SHALL BE IMMEDIATELY UPON INTRODUCTION OF AN INTERIM ORDINANCE TO THE CITY COUNCIL, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SO YOU ARE RIGHT THAT OE THIS BODY VOTES ON THE ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION, MAJORITY VOTE PASSING THAT INTRODUCTION, THEN IT GOES INTO EFFECT. AND OBVIOUSLY THE BODY HAS A PUBLIC HEARING AND TIME TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE ACTUAL INTERIM ORDINANCE. IF THATFAILS, THEN WE'RE DONE. IF THE INTERIM ORDINANCE IS PASSED, THEN THE MORATORIUM IT'S A TIME-LIMITED MORATORIUM FOR A YEAR.

OKAY. SO IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS WHEN IT'S REINTRODUCED ON MAY 21ST, THAT'S WHEN IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT? CORRECT.

I GUESS, I THINK A BLANKET MORATORIUM IS REALLY NOT THE SOLUTION. IT'S A BLUNT TOOL THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK OVERALL IT IS ALREADY SENDING UNCLEAR SIGNALS TO THE MARKET ABOUT WHAT MINNEAPOLIS IS DOING. AND 'S REALLY FAILING TO DISTINGUISH ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT ABOUT DATA CENTERS IN AN URBAN SMALL MARKET LIKE MINNEAPOLIS THAT HAS MANY OFFICE CONVERSIONS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN AND BE REPURPOSED EITHER FOR HOUSING OR OTHER BUSINESS USES VERSUS LARGE-SCALE DEVELOPMENT AND CONCERNS THAT WE'RE SEEING WHERE HUGE FACILITIES ARE BEING BUILT IN MOECELLO, ROSEMONT. SO FOR US TO PUT A BLANKET MORATORIUM SEEMS LIKE A VERY BLUNT TOOL AT A CRITICAL TIME. AT A CRITICAL ME IN OUR ECONOMIC STORY AS A CITY. AND EVEN WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF MENTIONING THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO, I HEARD FROM ADAM DUNICK OF THE DOWNTOWN COUNCIL THAT IT HAS ALREADY CREATED A COOLING EFFECT OF INVESTORS EXPLORING SOME OF OUR SMALLER DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS FOR DATA CENTER POTENTIAL. WE ALL KNOW THAT WE WANT TO REDUCE THE PROPERTY TAX BURDEN ON OUR RESIDENTS. AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE DO THAT IS BY REALLY BUILDING BACK OUR COMMERCIAL TAX BASE. AND IT WAS SO EXCITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SLEEK NUMBER BUILDING JUST IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR WHERE IT SOLD FOR $235 MILLION. THIS SAME BUILDING WAS ASSESSED WITHIN OUR CITY JUST A YEAR AGO FOR $30 MILLION. THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE

IN CITY COMMERCIAL TAX REVENUE JUST BY THAT ONE BUILDING HAVING A HUGE VALUATION CHANGE. AND WE NEED THAT. THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT THERE MAY BE ORDINANCES THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS ABOUT HOW WE CAN ENCOURAGE THESE DATA CENTERS TO CONNECT WITH MUNICIPAL CLIMATE INITIATIVES LIKE CORDIA, THAT WE SEE THEM ALREADY BEING ABLE TO EXPLORE THAT WOULD LEAD SOME OF OUR CLIMATE INITIATIVES. BUT FOR US TO TAKE A BLANKET MORATORIUM COMMUNICATES AGAIN TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT W DO NOT SUPPORT THEM. WE DO NOT TAKE THEIR VALUES AND THEIR INTERESTS TO HEART, BUT ARE WILLING TO MOVE AHEAD WITH SOMETHING SO CONSEQUENTIAL TO THE COMMERCIAL VALUE CHANGES IN OUR CITY WITHOUT THEIR INPUT AND WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE BASE TO HELP US THROUGH THIS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MION TO REFER THIS BACK TO AUTHOR. CAN I HAVE A SECOND?

SECOND. THERE HAS BEEN A MOTION TO REFER THIS BACK TO AUTHOR AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED. I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, PRESIDENT PAYNE. SO I AM THE AUTHOR OF THIS ORDINANCE. HAD I HAD THE ABILITY TO NOT HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA AND BRING IT TO THE MAY 21ST MEETING, I WOULD. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIMS FILE, THERE'S NOT EVEN LANGUAGE THAT'S ATCHED TO IT. MY INTENTION WAS TO HAVE SOME DELIBERATIVE CONVERSATIONS AND AWAIT FOR THE STATE LEGISLATIVE CYCLE TO CONCLUDE IN WHICH THEY'RE DISCUSSING DATA CENTERS RIGHT NOW AND THEN HAVE AN INTRODUCTION WITH LANGUAGE WITH OUR STAFF TO TALK TO. COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER, WHILE I APPRECIATE YOU COMMENTS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY APPRECIATED IF YOU HAD REACHED OUT TO MY OFFICE AND HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ME ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS. A REFER TO STAFF IS ABSOLUTELY NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN SPORT AND WE ARE NOT IN A PLACE WHERE WE EVEN HAVE LANGUAGE TO DEBATE SO I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO A LONG DEBATE ABOUT WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS. BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS DATA CENTERS, THE GROWTH OF THEM, IT IS ONE OF THE FOREMOST ISSUES FOR THE CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE'RE SEEING LARGE EXPANSIONS, CITIES ARE ALL TRYING T DETERMINE THEIR LAND USE PRACTICES. AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT GOVERNMENT IS RESPONSIBLE AND TAKES THE TIME TO CONSIDER WHAT IT MEANS FOR A CITY. AND THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF AND STATE LEGISLATORS AND TALKING TO MY CO-AUTHOR ABOUT BRINGING THIS FORWARD. AGAIN, THERE IS NO LANGUAGE BEFORE US. HAD I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PUT THIS ONTO THE AGENDA LATER, I WOULD HAVE. BUT HERE WE ARE. SO COLLEAGUES, PLEASE DO NOT REFER THIS BACK TO AUTHOR, ESSENTIALLY DELAYING THE START OF THIS IMPORTANT CONVERSATION BEFORE WE EVEN HAVE LANGUAGE BEFORE US. AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH

CONCERNS, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ME SO WE CAN HAVE DELIBERATIVE DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ.

PRESIDENT PAYNE, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION TO RETURN TO AUTHOR. I THINK ENDING DEBATE AND A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE IMPACT OF DATAENTERS AND THE WATER USAGE THAT THEY TAKE FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND THE DEVASTATING IMPACT WHEN IT COMES TO ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE THAT DATA CENTE HAVE, AND TO DECIDE TO NOT HAVE THAT DEBATE ANY FURTHER WOULD JUST BE NOT OKAY. SO I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS MOTION TO RETURN TO AUTHOR. I THINK THIIS A CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE. DATA CENTERS ARE KNOWN TO IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY AND IN THIS STATE AND IN THIS COUNTRY. COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER.

YEAH, I'D JT LIKE TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. I AM RESPONDING TO SPECIFIC LANGGE. AND THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT IS HERE THOUGH IT IS NOT ROBUST SAYS MORATORIUM. AND SO THAT MEANS IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS IN MAY, WE HAVE AN INTERIM MORATORIUM ON ANY KIND OF SALES IN THIS AREA FOR THE NEXT YEAR. THAT IS SPECIFIC ENOUGH LANGUAGE FOR ME TO TAKE ACTION. AND I WOULD APPRECIATE WITH ALL OF THESE INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE BEEN COMING THROUGH COUNCIL, REFER TO STAFF, REFER TO STAFF THE SUBJECT MATTER OF AN ORDINANCE, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHEN THERE'S MORE LANGUAGE THERE.BUT TO ME, MORAT STRONG ENOUGH POSITION TO TAKE A STRONG ACTION. I THINK IT WOULD SEND A CLEAR COUNCIL STATEMENT TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT WE CARE ABOUT THE VALUATION PAIN THAT THEY ARE FEELING RIGHT NOW. AND WE CARE ABOUT THAT PAIN THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING ON THE REVENUE SIDE OF IT AS CITY LEADERS. AND WE CARE ABOUT HOW WE'VE BEEN HAVING TO PASS THAT REVEN ONTO THE RESIDENTIAL MARKET. YES, THERE IS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE HERE AND IT'S HEAVY LANGUAGE. IT'S BLUNT LANGUAGE. AND IT'S LANGUAGE THAT I CAN'T SUPPORT.

VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER'S CONCERN. I THINK WE DO NEED TO ATTRACT FOLKS TO USE THE BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN. WE HAVTHE RIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A DATA CENTER IN DOWNTOWN. I'M SURE WE ALREADY HAVE A DATA CENTER SOMEWHERE IN DOWNTOWN. RIGHT? WE DON'T? OKAY. SO WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU AND WHAT I WILL TELL THE PUBLIC IS THAT WE NEED A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE DATA CENTER. WHAT ARE T PROS AND CONS OF DATA CENTERS. WE NEED OUR STAFF TO HELP US OUT TO MAKE POLICIES. AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT INVESTORS TO COME IN AND LOOK AT THESE PLACES AND SEE WHAT WAYS CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME KIND OF REGULATION. I THINK AS AN EXAMPLE OF OTHER CITIES, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A FARM OF DATA CENTERS EVERYWHERE. BUT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF DEPENDING ON THE FINDING IF THAT IS ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERTISE, HEALTH EXPERTISE, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE NEED. SO SHORT TIME DELAY GIVES US TE TIME TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. THIS IS NOT PUSHING INVESTORS OUT, IT'S TELLING THEM WE'RE HERE TO WORK WITH THEM IN A MATTER THAT WORKS ON TH HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF THE CITY. AS A PRO BUSINESS COUNCILMAN, I SAY LET'S ALL HAVE A CONVERSATION, LET'S TALK TO THE EXPERTS ON THIS AND LET'S MAKE DECISIONS THAT CAN MAKE OUR LIVE BETTER AT THE SAME TIME GIVE OUR STRUGGLING DOWNTOWN AN PORTUNITY TO BUILD AND BRING REVENUE.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER, FOR EXPLAINING IN GREAT DETAIL WHY THIS IS HARMFUL TO EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. YOU KNOW, TELEPHONES WORK BOTH WAYS. AND HAD THE AUTHORS TALKED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WORK IN DOWNTOWN TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE EFFECT OF THIS AS I TOOK THREE CALLS LAST WEEK FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT SELLING THEIR BUIINGS AND THE VALUE THAT DROPPED. WE SEE THE BEST EXAMPLE IN THE RLD OF THIS $235 MILLION SALE COMPARED TO A $30 MILLION ASSESSEDVALUE. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH OUR BUILDINGS. WE HE TO BRING OUR DOWNTOWN BACK AND DATA CENTERS ARE GOING TOE PART OF IT. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A 25 MEGA WATT DATA CENTER WHICH WE HAVE IN DOWNTOWN NOW. WE HAVE DATA CENTERS ALREADY AND THE KIND THAT E STATE IS PROPOSING TO THROW THE MORATORIUM ON. THOSE ARE HUNDREDS AND NDREDS. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND WE HAVE TO SEND THE SIGNAL TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT DOWNTOWN IS IMPORTANT AND WE SUPPOR THAT. SO THAT'S THE VOTE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TODAY. DO WE WANT TO KEEP PUTTING A KNIFE IN DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS OR DO WE WANT TO NTURE IT AND BRING IT BACK SO THAT EVERY RENTER AND EVERY HOMEOWNER IN THE CITY PAYS LESS?

COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. WHAT I WILL NOTE FOR THIS IS ACTUALLY THERE HAS NOT BEEN A DEFINITIVE STANCE ON WHETHER OR NOT DATA CENTERS ARE GOOD AND AN ECONOMIC BUILDER IN ACTUAY LOOKING AT THE WAYS IN WHICH WHATEVER BENEFITS THEY QUOTE UNQUOTE PROVIDE ACTUALLY COME AT THE EXPENSE OF IS IT DISPLACEMENT, IS IT THE ABSORPT, WHICH WE DO HAVE A LOT OF HERE. AND TO SAY THAT OH, WE DON'T HAVE TO CONCERN OURSELVES WITH THAT, THAT IS EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC. AND WHAT THIS ACTUALLY TEES US UP TO DO IS TO DO THE ANALYSIS TO THE DATA GATHERING THAT IS PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. THIS IS TO START THAT EARLIER CONVERSATION. AND I'M ALL FOR TALKING ABOUT HOW TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE. THAT IS WHY WE ACTUALLY HAVE FIVE RECOMMENDATIONS IN FRONT OF US THAT COULD GIVE US A PATHWAY FOR BRINGING TENS TO HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO CONSTANTLY WORRY ABOUT EITHER CORPORATE IN FLIGHTR FLIGHT FROM DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO CONSTANTLY PASS THE BUCK ONTO OUR HOMEOWNERS AND OTHER REGULAR FOLKS. WE HAVE OTHER MEANS OF EXPLORING AND BRINGI IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO ALLOW CORPORATE PLAYERS TO COME IN AND SUCK UP ALL OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES AND ALSO DO OTHER HARMFUL EFFECTS. BUT I'M MORE THANAPPY FOR US TO AT LEAST START THE CONVERSATION OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TO PR THAT WITH OTHER REVENUE GENERATORS OUTSIDE OF MAKING THIS SEEM LIKE THIS IS THE END ALL BE ALL FOR ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THE BLEAK ECONOMIC OUTLOOK OF OUR CITY THAT CURRENTLY REGULAR WORKING PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO KEEP U AFLOAT. AND ARE ANTICIPATED IN KEEPING US AFLOAT FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. SO I WILL JUST YEAH -- I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION T REFER BACK TO STAFF. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE COLLEAGUES TO REALLY LOOK AT THE FULL PICTURE OF IMPACTS AND

ACTUALLY LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE VISION AROUND ECONOMIC RECOVERY NOT JUST AROUND DOWNTOWN. BUT THAT TAKES INTO THAT BROADER IMPACT OF CONCERNS AND OTHER REVENUE TOOLS THAT WE COULD BE UTILIZING AND WORKING WITH STATE LEADERS TO TRULY BRING IN ADDITIONAL DOLLARS INTO OUR CITY. COUNCILMEMBER WHITING.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. JUST I THINK CLARIFYING AGAIN, SORRY IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M PROBABLY ASKING A SIMILAR QUESTION THAT COUNCILMEMBER SHFER DID. BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT, THAT THE INTRODUCTION RE OF THIS ORDINANCE WHEN INTRODUCED AND REFERRED ON THE 21st WOULD THEN START THE MORATORIUM? COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF IN FACT ON THE 21st THIS BODY VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE TRIGGER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS MORATORIUM.

LANGUAGE AGAIN, AND THIS IS ERE I'M A LITTLE MORE CONFUSED. LANGUAGE DOES NEED TO BE ATTACHED TO THAT INTRODUCTION OR REFERRAL ON THE 21st, CORRECT?

THROUGH THE PRESIDENT, COUNCILMEMBER WHITING, THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE IS WHAT THE COUNCIL WOULD BE REFERRING TO ITS COMMITTEE PROCESS TO DEVELOP. HOWEVER UNDER THE STATE LAWND UNDER CODE CITED BY CITY ATTORNEY ANDERSON, THE EFFECT OF THE ORDINANCE BEGINS IMMEDIATELY AND THEN WHEN YOU ADOPT YOUR ORDINANCE, YOU WOULD PRESCRIBE UP TO A YEAR FOR THE MORATORIUM TO LAST WHILE STUDY TAKES PLACE. SO THERE IS AN INITIAL EFFECTIVENESS OF THE ORDINANCE BASED ON INTRODUCTION. AND THEN WHEN THE COUNCIL ADOPTS THE ORDINANCE, THEY PRESCRIBE FUTURE DETAILS OF THAT MORATORIUM.

MAYBE I'LL ADD TO THAT THE WORDING OF THE INTRODUCTION DOES ACTUALLY MATTER. I MEAN IT CAN BE CRAFTED HOWEVER AND THAT IS THE THING THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON AS THE INTROD INTRODUCTION. SO THIS ONE IS SPECIFIC TO DATA CENTERS. OBVIOUSLY IT WOULDN'T HAVE A BROADER EFFECT THAN THAT. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WORDING OF WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON AT THE TIME. OKAY, HELPFUL. AND THEN PRESIDENT PAYNE, I THINK IS IT POSSIBLE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE AUTHOR? IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? IF THE AUTHOR IS INTERESTED.

COOL. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DATE OF THE 21st IS IN REFERENCE TO ENSURING THAT WHEN THE STATE KIND OF PASSES SOME STUDY OR LANGUAGE ON WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT FROM THE DATA -- ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT? YEAH. THANYOU, COUNCILMEMBER WHITING. THAT IS THE INTENTION. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL BILLS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED AT THE STATE LEVEL. DEPENDING ON WHAT PASSES, THAT COULD SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THE SUBSTANTIVE MATTER. SO I FELT THAT IT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO WAIT UNTIL WE H DEFINITIVE ACTION FROM THE LEGISLATURE ON THEIR LAST DAY WHICH IS I BELIEVE MAY 18TH.

AND THEN LAST QUESTION HERE FOR COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY IS IT SOUNDS LE IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE MORE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ONCE WE GET TO THE 21st. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE OPEN TO TALKING THROUGH WHAT THAT LANGUAGE COULD LOOK LIKE? COUNCILMEMBER WHITING, GRE QUESTION. THAT WAS ALREADY THE PLAN THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ON MAY 21ST. AND OUR STAFF WILL HAVE THAT. WE'LL WORK TOGETHER. AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A GRE DISCUSSION HERE AND ULTIMATELY I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ALSO WEIGH IN AT A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A GOOD DEBATE ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. I THINK I SHARE SIMILAR CONCERNS THAT MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES SHAFFER AND RAINVILLE DO. I THINK WHAT WE HAVE SEEN DOWNTOWN WITH THE LAST -- I MEAN IF WE LOOK AT THE SLEEP NUMBER BUILDING, A EVALUATION A YEAR AGO 30 AND THEN SELLING FOR $235 MILLIONS AN INFLUX INTO OUR DOWNTOWN TAX BASE THAT I THINK SHARES THE BURDEN ACROSS THE CITY. AND SO I THINK I AM OPEN TO FIGURING OUT WHAT THIS LANGUAGE COULD BE AND HOW IT COULD BE HELPFUL. SO WHILE I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF I THINK REFERRING IT BACK TO THE AUTHOR TODAY, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A FULL IN DEPTH CONVERSATION ON THE 21st TO SEE IF IT'S HELPFUL TO ACTUALLY MOVE ANY OF THIS FORWARD OR NOT. SO I KNOW I WILL BE HAPPY TO TALK WITH COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY AND OTHER OF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME LANGUAGE THAT IS HELPFUL FOR ALL INTERESTS CONSIDERED. THANK YO

COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON. YEAH. I WAS HOPING TO ASK THE CLERK A QUESTION. YOU'VE BEEN AROUND HERE A WHILE. YOU'VE BEEN AROUND OTHER CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES FOR A WHILE. CAN YOU TELL ME THE NORMS AROUND INTRODUCTIONS? IS IT NORMAL OR IS IT COMMON FOR US TO APPROVE INTRODUCTIONS NO MATTER WHAT OR TO HAVE DISCUSSION LIKE THIS ON DIFFERENT INTRODUCTIONS? MR. CLERK.

MR. PRESIDENT, I'VE SAID THIS IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS IN DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE COUNCIL. I'LL OFFER IT TO THIS BODY IN THIS CURRENT VERSION WITH THE NEW MEMBERS. THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS IN MINNEAPOLIS BEGINS WITH AN INTRODUCTION. THAT'S WHY YOU VOTE ON INTRODUCTIONS. A VOTE SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED PRO FORMA. THEY TEND TO BE TAKEN UNANIMOUSLY, AND THEY TEND TO OPERATE AS A MEANS OF MOVING FORWARD INHE PROCESS. HOWEVER, IT IS IN FACT THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS WHERE A FORMAL VOTE IS TAKEN. WE RECORD THAT VOTE. IT IS THE FIRST CHANCE THAT THE BODY HAS TO EITHER ADVANCE A PROPOSAL IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS OR TO KILL IT OUTRIGHT IF A MAJORITY DEEMS THAT IDEA OR PROPOSAL NOT WORTHY OF THE BODY'S ATTENTION OR WORTHY OF THE STAFF'S RESOURCES TO DEVELOP AND FURTHER BRING FORWARD A PROPOSAL. SO IS IT UNIFORMLY A YES VOTE ON INTRODUCTIONS? USUALLY, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS. AND IT IS, I WILL REMIND THE BODY, T FIRST CHANCE FOR EITHER A YEAH, WE WANT THE RESOURCES TO BE DEDICATED TO DEVELOPING AN IDEA INTO A FORMAL PROPOSAL. OR IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BODY TO SAY NO, WE DON'T WANT THAT. SO IT IS NOT PRO FORMA. IT SOMETIMES FEELS THAT WAY BECAUSE THE BULK OF ITEMS DO MOVE FORWARD USUALLY UNANIMOUSLY AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS.

OKAY, THANK YOU. GIVEN THATHE BULK OF ITEMS GERALLY MOVE FORWARD IN THIS WAY AND GIVEN THAT WE HAVE NOW SEEN I THINK THIS IS AT LEAST THE SECOND TIMEHAT AN INTRODUCTION JUST TO BEGIN EXPLORING AN IDEA AT LEAST THE SECOND TIME JUST TO BEGIN EXPLORING AN IDEA HAS BEEN CHALLENGED AND ATTEMPTED TO VOTE DOWN. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT MUCH INK HAS BEEN SPILLEDN THIS CITY ABOUT POLARIZATION ABOUT FIGHTING ON THE CITY COCIL, ABOUT NOT GETTING ALONG. AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE NORMS OF MOVING THESE THINGS THROUGH SO THAT WE CAN HEAR WHAT THEY'RE ABOUT AND THEN VOTE ON THE SUBSTANCE OF THE TH. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT WE ARE WITNESSING RIGHT NOW THE ESCALATION OF POLARIZATION AND THE ESCALATION OF FIGHTG ON THIS BODY BY TAKING THESE NOTICES AND BEGINNING TO SHOOT THEM DOWN BEFORE THEY'VE EVEN STARTED. SO I JUST WANT TO NOTE THIS POINT IN TIME BECAUSE IN OUR COUNTRY AND IN OUR CITY, WE ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF POLARIZATION. A LOT OFN FIGHTING, AND IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHEN WE ARE CROSSING NORMS. AND THIS IS CROSSING OF A NORM AS FAR AS I CAN SEE IT. AND SO I WANT US TO BE AWARE. DO WE WANT TO GO DOWN THE PATH OF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE SOMETHING JUST SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, WE CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT IT, AND YOUR COLLEAGUES WHO MAYBE USUALLY DISAGREE WITH YOU SHOOT YOUR THING DOWNEFORE IT GETS STARTED. OR DO WE WANT TO HAVE A CULTURE ON THIS BODY OF LETTING OUR THINGS MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN LEARN ABOUT THEM, WE CAN HAVE LANGUAGE ABOUT THEM, AND THEN WE CAN ASSESS THEM ON THE MERITS RATHER THAN ASSESS THEM FIVE WORD TITLE. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A CULTURE ON THIS BODY OF LETTING OUR COLLEAGUES BRING POLICIES FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN HEAR WHAT THEY CAN, WE CAN SEE WHAT THEY ARE, WE CAN AMEND THEM, WE CAN

DISCUSS THEM. I ALLY DON'T WANT A CULTURE ON THIS BODY OF KILLING EACH OTHER'S IDEAS, KILLING EACH OTHER'S COMMUNITIES BEGINNING OF EXPLORATION ON THE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US. I THINK THAT'S A BAD NORM FOR US TO TAKE. I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THE NORM OF INTRODUCING POLICIES AND LETTING THEM ME FORWARD. AND THAT WILL MEAN THAT WE ARE GOING TO LET THINGS MOVE FORWARD THAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO VOTE DOWN LATER. I, RIGHT NOW SITTING HERE, I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE FENCE REGULATION ORDINANCE. BUT DON'T KNOW YET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SORT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IT IS. BUT WHEN IT MOVES THROUGH THE PROCESS, PERHAPS I WILL CHANGE MY MIND. BECAUSE WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW ANYTHING. THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE INFORMATION LATER. I DON'T WANT TO BE ON BODY WHERE WE KILL EACH OTHER'S THINGS BEFORE THEY GET STARD. SO PLEASE LET'S NOT PICK UP THAT NORM. LET'S KEEP THE NORM OR MAYBE ESTABLISH AN EVEN STRONGER NORM OF LETTING EACH OTHER'S IDEAS MOVE FORWARD TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN HAVE REAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. THAT'S A REQUEST TO MY COLLEAGUES.

COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY.

SECOND. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY JUST SPEAKING FROM WHY I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, I HAVE SO MANY CONSTITUENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE CONCERNED. THEY'RE GENUINELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACTS THIS WILL HAVE ON OUR ENVIRONMENT. THE IMPACTS THAT THIS WILL HAVE ON OUR ENERGY GRID. THE IMPACTS THAT THIS WILL HAVE ON NATIONAL SECURITY. THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS THAT NEED TO BE HAD. BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE WAY THAT OUR CITY IS SHAPED. AND WE NEED MOVE RESPONSIBLY. SURE, THERE'S A DOLLAR TAG ASSOCIATED WITH IT. BUT THERE'S ALWAYS -- THERE'S COST TO DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE. AND SO I JUST WANT US TO MOVE RESPONSIBLY AND I ALSO SHARE IN LET'S HAVE A CULTURE OF BEING ABLE TO SHARE IDEAS AND MOVE THEM FORWARD AND ACTUALLY GET INTO THE ARENA OF WHERE WE CAN HAVE A DEBATE OVER LANGUAGE AND WE CAN HAVE THE PUBLIC WEIGH IN AND SHARE THEIR COMMENTS AS A REPRESENTATIVE BODY. I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO CULTURE SHIFT A LOT MORE IN GENERAL. THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE KINDNESS AND GRACE GIVEN UP HERE. THAT'S JUST A FACT OF TH MATTER. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE OPEN FROM HEARING FROM JEEP -- EACH OTHER AND REACHING OUT TO EACH OTHER. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT. I CARE ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION AND DEBATE AND TO ALLOW FOR OUR CONSTITUES TO WEIGH IN. AND NOT JUST THE CONSTITUENTS THAT OWN COMPANIES OR HAVE A FINANCIALTAKE IN HAVING A DATA CENTER.

COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE.

THANK YOU. AND I AGREE SO MUCH WITH YOUR CHANGE OF CULTURE. ABSOLUTELY, HAVE TO DO IT. WE HAVE TO QUIT COMPLAINING. QUIT WHINING. WE HAVE TO RESPECT EACH OTHER. AND WE HAVE THE TOOL TO DO THIS, IT'S CALLED A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. TO JUST JUMP OUT RIGHT AWAY AND PROPOSE A MORATORIUM IS NOT THE WAY TO CHANGE T CULTURE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE SO DEFENSIVE. THE PROPER WAY TO MOVE TS DISCUSSION WOULD HAVE BEEN A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE AS WE HAVE DONE FOR SO MANY TIMES. THIS W JUST A BLUNT TOOL AS COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER SAID. SO LET CHANGE THE CULTURE, LET'S USE OUR LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. LET'S HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. PHONES WORK TWO WAYS. AUTHORS CAN CL US ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO BE EFFECTED, WHOSE WARDS ARE GOING TO BE EFFECTED. LET'S USE THAT LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE INSTEAD OF THIS BLUNT TOOL.

I ADDED MYSELF TO QUEUE JUST TO KIND OF I DON'T KNOW GROUND WHAT THE REALITY OF THE MARKET IS RIGHT NOW. AND I'M GOING TO KIND OF REFLECT ON EVEN MY CAREER BACK AT THE VERY EARLY START OF HI CAREER WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BA ENGINEER WORKING IN A LARGE INDUSTRIAL FACILITY AND AGING MYSELF THIS IS BACK IN LIKE THE EARLY 2000S. 2002 TIFRAME. I WORKED AT A FACTORY THAT RAN 24/7 AND IT HAD A MASSIVE LOAD ON THE ENERGY GRID SO MUCH SO- AND THIS WAS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THEY HAD TO BUILD ESSENTIALLY A JET TBINE GENERATOR SO THAT THEY COULD NOT BE AS IMPACTED BY THE ROLLING BLACKOUTS. THE ROLLING BLACKOUTS WOULD KICK OUT ALL OF THE SENSORS OF THIS AND I MEAN FOOTBALL FIELD SIZED MACHINE AND IWOULD COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO GET IT STARTED BACK UP. SO IT MADE FINANCIAL SENSE FOR THEM TO INVEST IN A MASSIVE NATURAL GAS-POWERED TURBINE THE AH KEEP MORE STEADY POWER FOR THAT INDUSTRIAL FACILITY. JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF SCALE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND I'LL JUST READ THE HEADLINE FROM 404 MEDIA. A BLACKHE OF ENERGY USE. META'S MASSIVE DATA CENTER STRESSING OUT A LOUISIANA COMMUNITY. THIS IS A DATA CENTER PROPOSED BY FACEBOOK THAT IS TWO GIGAWATTS ANDOULD SPAN ABOUT THE SIZE OF LOWER MANHATTAN. THAT'S THE SCALE OF THIS DATA CENTER. AND THIS IS THE SCALE OF DATA CENTER AND ENERGY USE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I WAS AT THAT MEETING WITH SOME OF OUR DOWNTOWN STAHOLDERS WHERE EY TALKED ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF USING A VERY SMALL PORTION OF A BUILDING TO HELP OFFSET OR EVEN SUBSIDIZE THE COST OF COMMERCIAL SPACE FOR THE REST OF THE BUILD OUT OF THAT BUILDING. TO BE FRANK, I INTERPRETED THAT AS A BIT OF WISH CASTING AROUND

WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN DOWNTOWN. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MODERN ERA OF DATA CENTERS IS SUCH THAT THEY NEED DATA CENTERS THE SIZE OF MANHATTAN TO ACTUALLY DELIVER ON THE CAPABILITIES THAT THEY'RE TRYI TO BUILD OUT. WE SHOULD NOT BE BLIND TO THE SCALE OF NEED THAT THEY'RE PURSUING. ALSO EARLY IN MY BABY CAREER, I WAS THE ENGINEER THAT WAS RESPONSIBL FOR CHANGING THE TAPE FOR OUR SERVER. AND THEN WE HAD A LITTLE CLOSET WITH A SERVER ROOM IN IT. AND I WOULD GO CHANGE THE BACKUP TAPE MAYBE ONCE A WEEK IF I RECALL. THIS IS AGAIN OVER 20 YEARS AGO. I DON'T THINK I WOULD CALL THAT SERVER ROOM A DATA CENTER. BUT I THINK WE'RE EVEN UP HERE HAVING A DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER THERE ARE DATA CENTERS WNTOWN. THERE ARE SERVER ROOMS DOWNTOWN FOR SURE. THESE THINGS ARE OLD FACILITIES, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES. BUT THEY COULD BE ANYTHING FROM A SINGLE RACK TO MAYBE A FLOOR OF A BUILDING THAT'S HOUSING A LOT OF MISSION CRITICAL DATA THAT THAT CPORATION NEEDS. BUT THESE ARE NOT THE DATA CENTERS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE AGE OF AI. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A TWO GIGAWATT FACILITY. AND I THINK THE POINT IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT KD OF FACILITIES WILL BE BUILT RIGHT NOW. AND THERE IS NO GUIDANCE OR REGULATIONS AROUND WHAT THE SIZE OF THOSE FACILITIES WOULD BE, HOW MUCH DATA THAT THEY COULD CONSUME, WHAT THE EFFECT ON THE OVERALL GRID IS GOING TO BE AND THEREFORE WHAT THE EFFECT ON RATE PAYERS WILL BE. THESE ARE ALL UNKNOWN THINGS AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WISDOM TO A MORATORIUM PERIOD, BUT ESPECIALLY A MORATORIUM THAT'S ALIGNED WITH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE THESE THINGS NEED TO BE REGULATED AND THEY NEED TO BE REGULATED BEYOND WHAT A CITY DOES FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE.

THEY NEED WHETHER IT'S GIGAWATT OR TERRAWATT LEVELS OF THRESHOLDS OF WHICH THEY HAVE LIMITATIS ON THEM, OR THE FOOTPRINT THAT'S THE LIMITATION ON THEM. THERE'S A BUNCH OF PARAMETERS THAT GOE INTO THESE FACILITIES THAT TO COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY'S POINT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A BUNCH OF SIDE EFFECTS OF THESE FACILITIES. IF YOU WERE TO JUST LET THE FREE MARKET RUN THROUGH THIS WITHOUT ANY REGULATION, WE'VE ALREADY HEARD ABOUT SOME OF THE FACILITIES IN STATES LIKE TEXAS, LOUISIANA BEING ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS PRETTY LOOSE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS. THESE FACILITIES ARE MASSIVE IN FOOTPRINT, MASSIVE IN TERMS OF THEIR ENERGY FOOTPRINT NOT JUST THEIR PHYSICAL FOOTPRINT. THERE'S TALK OF BILLIONS O DOLLARS OF INFRASTRUCTURE JUST TO POWER THESE FACITIES. AND WE ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRIVATE MARKET IS INTERESTED IN WHEN IT COMES TO A FACILITY DOWNTOWN. THEY MIGHT BE PITING IT AS JUST TWO FLOORS OF A BUILDING TO OFFSET THE COMMERCIAL SPACE. BUT THEY MIGHT BUILD A TOWER'S WORTH OF THESE DATA CENTERS. AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT WOULD LIMIT THEM FROM DOING THAT. AND I THINK THAT HAVING A MORATORIUM WOULD GIVE US THE TIME FOR THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO FIGURE THOSE DETAILS OUT. MAYBE THEY'LL GET THEM FIGURED OUT THIS SESSION AND THERE WOU BE NO NEED FOR A MORATORIUM AT ALL BECAUSE THEY'D HAVE A ROBUST FRAMEWORK PLACE. I DON'T THINK I'M FEELING ALONG THE STATE CAPITOL ENOUGH TO HEAR ABOUT A ROBUST REGULATORY FRAMEWORK BEING CONTEMPLATED THIS SESSION. BUT I WOULD LEAN ON OUR IGR CHAIR TO BE MORE IN THE KNOW ABOUTTHAT. BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT AN UNREGULATED AREA THAT IS EMERGING AS QUICKLY AS THIS, THERE'S GOING TO BE LITERALLY

TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT IN DATA CENTERS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. MANY OF THOSE WILL NOT -- THERE'S RIGHT NOW ESSENTIALLY A RACE TO WHO CAN BE THE NUMBER ONE AI COMPANY. THEY'RE ALL OVERBUILDING THEIR CAPACITY AS THEY COMPETE TO BE THE ONE AND ONLY MARKET LEADER. THAT IS KIND OF HOW THESE BUSIN. AND WE SHOULD NOT LET OUR GRID AND OUR PEOPLE CARRY THE BURDEN OF THAT RACE TO THE BOTTOM. AND WITH THAT, I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. COLLEAGUES, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED ON RENT CONTROL, FOR EXAMPLE. THE NOR OF REQUIRING STAFF TIME AND EFFORT AND RESOURCES AND MOY ON ITEMS THAT FRANKLY SHOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED. THERE WASN'T SUPPORT OTHAT. IF WE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON SAYS WHICH I COULD APPLAUD, FIRST WE NEED TO DO IT WITH ALL THINGS. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CLERK, THROUGH THE CHAIR. I'M CURIOUS, AND YOU SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH SUBJECT MATTER INTRODUCTIONS?

THROUGH THE PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO MAYBE BACK UP A LITTLE BIT IF I CAN USE SOME OF YOUR TIME AND SAY THERE WAS A QUESTI INTRODUCTIONS WERE PRO FORMA OR NOT AND I THOUGHT I ANSWERED IT BUT I'LL BACK UP AND GIVE AN EXAMPLE. NOTICE OF THE ORDINANCE IS REQUIRED AS THE FIRST STEP. AND THERE IS NO VOTE, NOTICES ARE GIVEN AND EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THE RIGHT TO BRING FORWARD A NOTICE. BUT THE INTRODUCTION IS THE BODY VOTI OFFICIALLY TO MOVE THAT FORWARD IN ITS LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. AND AS I'VE SAID BEFORE WHEN THIS QUESTION HAS COME UP IN THE BODY, OUR CURRENT PROCESS ALLOWS FOR WHAT IS CALLED SUBJECT MATTER ONLY INTRODUCTIONS. YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE AGENDA WHERE IT SAYS INTRODUCING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF AN ORDINANCE, NOT INTRODUCING AN ORDINANCE. OUR RULES DON'T PROVIDE FOR THAT, BUT OUR PRACTICE ENABLES IT. THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. SO IF YOU ARE AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE, FOR A LEGISLATOR TO INTRODUCE A BILL, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A DRAFT OF THE BILL. YOU CAN INTRODUCE SOMETHING WITHOUT THE DRAFT SO THAT ALL MEMBERS OF THE BODY AND THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE SOMETIMES, NOT OFTEN, BUT OCCASIONALLY AT THIS POINT EARLY IN THE PROCESS GET INTO THIS DIFFICULT SITUATION IS BECAUSE THERE ISN'T SOMETHING TO LOOK AT WHEN IT'S JUST A SUBJECT MATTER INTRODUCTION. THE ONLY THING THAT THE BODY OR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE INTERESTED HAVE TO LOOK AT IS THE SHORT SENTENCE THAT THE CLERKS AND THE ATTORNEYS HAVE WORKED ON. AND SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE DETAILS OF WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN IN PRACTICALITY IFHIS ORDINANCE CARRIES FORWARD AND IS ADOPTED. SO SUBJECT MATTER ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION IS LESS TRANSPARENT, IT HAS LESS ACCESSIBILITY, THERE ARE PROBLEMS IN HOW WE PROCESS THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CHARTER AND THE RULES, WE'VE ALLOWED IT. SO IT'S A PRACTICE, BUT NOT ONE THAT NECESSARILY WOULD FOLLOW STRICT ADHERENCE TO THE CHARTER OR OUR RULES. THE BETTER PROCESS, COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO RAISED THE EXPERIENCE WITH RENT CONTROL. IT'S A PAINFUL ONE FOR M TO RELIVE, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE PROCESS THAT COUNCILMEMBER

CHUGHTAI HAD AGREED TO AS T PRIMARY AUTHOR AT THAT POINT WAS COMING UP WITH AN INTERIM STAGE WHICH WAS BRINGING FORWARD AN OUTLINE OF THE MAJOR PILLARS IF I CAN USE THAT TERM, THE MAJOR LEGS OF AN ORDINANCE SO THAT THE BODY AND THE COMMUNITY HAD AN OUTLINE OF WHAT AN ORDINANCE WOULD CONTAIN BEFORE THERE WAS THE REQUIRED FIRST VOTE. UNDER OUR CHARTER, EVERY ORDINANCE GETS TWO VOTES. THE WAY WE OPERATE THEN, THE INTRODUCTION, THAT FIRST VOTE THAT WE SAY MAYBE THAT'S PRO FORMA, THAT'S THE FIRST READING THAT'S QUIRED. AND SO WE BLOW PAST THE FIRST READING AND WE SAVE WE'VE GIVEN AN OINANCE A READING, BUT THERE'S NOT EVEN A DRAFT. SO I DO THINK THAT IT RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OVERALL LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND THE LAST TWO TERMS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LEGISLATIVE PROCESS REFORM. PUT A PIN IN THAT AND SAY THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE ADD SOLO KA -- ADVOCATED FOR WHILE. HOWEVER THE PRACTICE IS ESTABLISHED THAT THINGS CAN MOVE FORWARD. THERE ARE ADVANTAGES TO THE WAY WE DO SUBJECT MATTER INTRODUCTIONS, AS I'VE JUST OUTLINED NOTWITHSTANDING THAT IT DOESN'T CONFORM WITH THE CHARTE TRANSPARENT. THE BODY HAS A TOOL OF USING THAT IN ORDER TO MOVE THINGS THROUGH. IT DOES MEAN THAT THE VOTE TAKEN CAN FEEL PRO FORMA, AND I WILL AGAIN STATE IT'S NOT. IT'S A VOTE. IT'S THE FIRST VOTE TOAY YES TO A PROPOSAL OR THE FIRST CHANCE TO SAY NO. AND EVERY ORDINANCE GETS TWO READINGS. THAT'S THE FIRST READING. I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION, PALMISANO.

YES. SO MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS AN INTRODUCTION. AND MAYBE A BETTER APPROAC OVERALL IS TO BRING FORWARD PROPOSED RULE CHANGES THAT PRESCRIBE THE WAYHAT THIS COULD ALL BE DONE BETTER, MORE TRANARENTALLY ONCE AND FOR ALL, ALL WITH MORE INFORMATION IN IT WHEN WE DO INTRODUCTIONS. YOU KNOW, PUTTING DATA CENTERS IN RURAL AREAS AND CITIES WHERE THE PROPOSITION IS ABOUT JOBS AND CONSTRUCTION AND DEMANDING MASSE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE LOADS, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE HERE DOWNTOWN. IT'S ABOUTITTING IN A NEW USE IN AN ALREADY BUILT ENVIRONMENT. I DON'T OFTEN GET TO TALK ABOUT A PART OF MY PAST OR PRIOR EXPERIENCE I BRING HERE, BUT WHEN I MOVED HERE IT WAS BECAUSE IBM MOVED ME HERE FROM CLEVELAND WHERE I WAS THE ACCOUNT REPRESENTATIVE FOR CONTINUITY SERVICES THAT INCLUDED THREE MAJOR ACCOUNTS HERE, ALL DATA CENTERS DOWNTOWN. THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, THRIVENT, THEN CALLED LUTHERAN BROTHERHOOD, AND NORWEST BANK. FROM WHAT DIRECTOR HANSEN HAS SHARED WITH US HERE IN PUBLIC, THE IDEA OF FORAYING INTO SOME AMOUNT OF DATA CENTERS IS A WAY TO STABILIZE OUR LARGE BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN. THIS ISN'T A NEW ENVIRONMENT RISK IF WE CREATE POLICY AROUND IT. A LOT OF THIS ALREADY EXISTS WITH MULTIPLE FEATS, MULTIPLE INFRASTRUCTURE FEEDS UNDERGROUND DOWNTO. AND I THINK DIRECTOR HANSEN SPOKE ABOUT THAT. SO YES, WE NEED REGULATION AND POLICY AND TO STEP INTO THIS CAREFULLY. I THINK MORATORIUM SIGNAL OTHER THINGS TO THE FINANCE WORLD, TO THE PUBLIC. AND THAT'S WHAT IN MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE OBJECTION COMING FROM COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER VETAW.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANTED TO JUST CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FENCE REGULATIONS ORDINANCE AND THE MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS. BECAUSE IT WAS STATED THAT THEY'RE THE SAME AND THEY'RE NOT. THE FENCE REGULATIONS ORDINANCE HAS BEEN CARRIED OVER FOR A YEAR AT LEAST. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT, MY OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR TWO YEAR COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT. COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT. SORRY, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN, YOU'RE NOT LISTED ON THIS. BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY A COALITION BUILT ORDINANCE AND INTRODUCTION. THE THREE OF US HAD VERY DIFFERENT ISSUES IN OUR WARDS OR AROUND THE CITY THAT WE WERE FACING. I DID A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE OVER A YEAR AGO. STAFF CAME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS. AFTER STAFF CAME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, THE THREE OF US TALKED ABOUT HOW WE COULD COLLABORATE ON GETTING THE NEEDS MET WITH ONE ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION AND TIME RAN OUT LAST YEAR SO WE DIDN'T GET TO GET THAT DONE BECAUSE WE WERE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB AT WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE ONLY HAD TO CHANGE AND UPDATE THE ORDINANCE ONE TIME. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IN THIS INTRODUCTION IS ACTUALLY TWO YEARS OF WORK FROM STAFF. COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO, MAYBE MORE LIKE EIGHT YEARS OF WORK FROM COUNCIL MEMBER. AND SO I THINK THAT IS WHAT COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE AND SHAFFERRE SAYING. THERE IS NO NORM. PEOPLE INTRODUCE THINGS THE WAY IN WHICH THEY WANT TO. SOME OF US DO THE BACKGROUND WORK AND PREPARE FOR STAFF TO DO BRIEFINGS ON WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN AND I AND COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW WE ORGANIZE THAT SO PEOPLE DO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD DURING THIS TIME PERIOD OF THIS INTRODUCTION.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT MY INTROCTION IS NOT THE SAME AS THE ONE THAT IS CLEARLY SAYING A MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS. ITS NOT THE SAME. THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE YEARS OF WORK. THERE HAVE BN LOTS OF COLLABORATION ON THIS. JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, A MAN WAS HERE TO CHANGE SOMETHING ABOUT HIS FENCE THAT DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND WE DENIED HIM WHAT HE ASKED FOR. AND I TALKED TO HIM AND SAID, I KNOW IT'S NOT THE RIGHT TIME, BUT WE'RE COMING BACK LATER MAYBE YOU JUST WAIT A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS FENCE REGULATION ORDINANCE. AND SO IT IS VERY DIFFERENT IN HOW WE APPROACH THE INTRODUCTION OF THESE THINGS. AND I JUST WANTED TO DEFEND MINE BECAUSE I'M PROUD OF HOW I WORK WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND WITH OTHERS ON THIS BODY WHEN IT'S TIME TO WORK TOGETHER. AND THIS IS A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU REACH OUT TO PEOPLE WHO MAYBE NOT EVEN, MAYBE IT'S NOT EVEN ON THEIR RADAR, BUT THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR SOME OF US FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND WE'VE WORKEDO DO THIS INTRODUCTION AND WE'VE TALKED TO OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS BODY ABOUT THAT.

COUNCILMEMBER WHITING.

THANK YOU, PRESIDE PAYNE. AND I THINK BOTH COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW, AND COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON, I THINK GIVE US A CLEAR INDICATION OF WHY WE DO NEED SOME CONFINES AROUND WHAT OUR NORMS ARE. AND SO I THINK I'M HAPPY TO LOOK INTO AS WELL IF WE THINK THAT THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS HOW WE INTRODUCE AND REFER ORDINANCES IS SOMETHING I WOULD BE MORE TH HAPPY TO LOOK INTO BECAUSE I THINK IT POINTS TO WHAT ARE OUR NORMS. AND I THINK COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON AND I HAVE REALLY ONLY SEEN IT IN THE LAST 100 DAYS THAT WE HAVE BEEN HERE AS KIND OF AN INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL. AND SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND I'M ASSUMING COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON'S AS WELL, IS IT DINNED -- DOES GO AWAY FROM A NORM THAT WE ARE USED TO IN THE LAST 100 DAYS. I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER VETAW ADDING IN SOME CONTEXT THAT THIS ISN'T THE NORM THAT IS TYPICALL. SO THAT IS HELPFUL OR AT LEAST THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT IT IS USED SO THAT IS HELPFUL TO NOTE. AND SO I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK INTO OF KIND OF STREAMLINING THIS PROCESS. I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE HERE, I KNOW COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY THE SIZE OF SOME OF THESE LARGE DATA CENTERS. AND I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT DATA CENTERS TO BE VERY HONEST. AND SO LEANING ON A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR EXPERTISE HERE, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE RY, VERY LARGE TWO GIGAWATT PLUS DATA CENTERS. JUST DID SOME QUICK RESEARCH OF SPECIFICALLY THE SLEEP NUMBER BUILNG. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SLEEP NUMBER BUILDING IS SOMEWHERE AROUND TEN MEGA WATTS AT THE MOMENT. BUT HOPES TO EXPAND IT CLOSE TO 40 MEGAWATTS. AND I AGAIN DID SOME QUICK RESEARCH, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A SINGLE GIGAWATT IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF A LARGE NUCLEAR FACILITY. AND SO I THINK WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT SPECIFIC NUMBERS, 40

MEGAWATTS IS, I THINK SOMEWHERE AROUND 50% SMALLER OR 50 TIMES SMALLER THAN THAT ABILITY. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE, I DON'T THINK WE VE THE SPACE IN DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS IN ANY OF OUR BUILDINGS TO P SOME OF THESE MASSIVE, MASSIVE DATA CENTERS. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE AGAIN USING OUR DATA SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY COMING AND WHAT IS HERE CURRENTLY AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK AGAIN REQUIRES US TO DELVE INTO A LARGER DISCUSSION. MAYBE A LAST PIECE OF CLARIFICATION HERE. I KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE NOTED THE SUPPO OF MOTIONING TOWARDS A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. IS THAT WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US? IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S NOT WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US, RIGHT? WELL SHOOT. NEVER MIND THEN. THAT IS ALL. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP AND SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I PROMISED DURING THE CAMPAIGN LAST YEAR WAS TO REALLY FOCUS ON ECONOMIC THRIVIN FOR OUR CITY. WE ALL SEE THE NEED. I E THE NEED PARTICULARLY IN WARD 7 IN UPTOWN AND DOWNTOWN, THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. BUT I'M NOT THE ONLY COUNCIL PERSON THAT REPRESENTS DOWNTOWN. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE, COUNCILMBER WARREN, COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN, ALL FOUR OF US REPRESENT A PIECE OF DOWNTOWN. AND I AM THRILLED AND BELIEVE THAT ALL OF US THAT SIT ON THIS DAIS, WHETHER WE HAVE A PIECE OF THE ACTUAL DOWNTOWN FOOTPRINT OR JUST HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S NOT A JUST RIGHT? WE ALL CARE ABOUT THE ECONOMIC THRIVING OF OUR CITY IN EVERY CORNER, IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD, ON EVERY BLOCK. SO TODAY, I REALLY APPRECIATED COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE'S SUGGESTION TO MOVE FORWARD A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE AROUND STUDYING DATA CENTERS VERSUS A BLANKET MORATORIUM. THIS WILL GIVE US TIME TO FIGURE OUT RURAL VERSUS CITY, POTENTIA BLINDLY STOPPING ANY INVESTMENT WITH A BLANKET MORATORIUM. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE UPSIDE AND WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE FOR EVEN CLIMATE, MOVING FORWARD CLIMATE INITIATIVES IN OUR CITY. SO THERE'S A L OF POSITIVES WE NEED TO LOOK AT, NOT JUST THE NEGATIVES. AND I'D LIK TO BE INFORMED AS A COUNCIL PERSON MAKING A VOTE ON THIS THAT WE CAN REALLY USE THIS AS A CHANCE TO BRING US TOGETHER AND NOT DIVIDE OVER ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE HAVE OR MAYBE HAVE READ ABOUT DATA CENTERS. SO I REALLY APPRECIATED COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE'S SUGGESTION.I ALSO WANT TO BRING

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY WITH CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS TO STILL BE ABLE TO BLOCK ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE♪ FEEL IS MAYBE PUSHING THE BOUNDARIES OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THE REGULAR CPED PROCESS. I BELIEVE THAT IS TRUE. AND THAT WOULD GIVE US A TOOL FOR THOSE OF US THAT MAY BE FEARFUL OF THE TIME TO BRING FORWARD A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE AROUND SUCH A LARGE BODY OF WORK, I JUSTANT TO MENTION THAT. SO I AM REALLY THANKFUL THAT COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE BROUGHT THAT UP. I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTE AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING EVERYONE COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY WOULD BE WILLING TO BRING FORWARD OR ANOTHER PERSON. BUT I HOPE TODAY THAT WE WOULD A VOICE NOT THAT THIS IS A BAD IDEA TO LOOK INTO HOW WE CAN REGULATE OR LEARN ABOUT DATA CENTERS. BUT AS A VOTE THAT WE ARE PRO BUSINESS. THAT WE ARE GOING TO NOT PUT ANY BARRIERS UP FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT DATA CENTERS OR BUILDING PURCHASE OR COMMERCIAL VALUATION INCREASES BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE ACCOMPLISH THAT BODY OF WORK. SO I JUST HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL WORK WITH ME AND WE SEND THIS BACK TO AUTHOR WITH THE IDEA TO BRING FORWARD A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOWHICH IS THE CO CONFTION OF A PROCEDURAL PROCESS AND A POLITICAL DISAGREEMENT. THERE IS ACTUALLY POLITICAL DISAGREEMENT THAT IS BEING DEMONSTRATED AS SHOWN BY ARE YOU PRO BUSINESS OR NOT IF YOU ARE FOR THE MORATORIUM OF DATA CENTERS OR NOT. THAT'S A POLITICAL DISAGREEMENT THAT WE CAN HAVE FOR SURE THROUGH THE LEGLATIVE PROCESS. AND I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT EVERYONE HERE HAS USED THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS VERY DIFFERENTLY. ACTUALLY I THINK COUNCILMEMBER VETAW EXPLAINED IT PRETTY ELOQUENTLY. JUST EVEN SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AROUND THE FIRST ITERATION AROUND PAUSED EVICTIONS STATEWIDE, I WAS ONE OF E FIRST PEOPLE TO BRING A WHOLE ORDINANCE UP READY FOR A VOTE AND YOU ALL BECAUSE OF POLITICAL DIFFERENCES DECIDED THAT WAS NOT THE WILL OF THE BODY. SO I THINK IT'S A MOVING GOAL POST TO TRY TO SAY IF YOU DID A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE, IF YOU BROUGHT THE ORDINANCE FORWARD AT THIS TIME YOU WOULD HAVE MY SUPPORT. WE HAVE MULTIPLE EXAMPLES THAT HAVE SHOWN THE CONTRARY OF THAT. I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY FINE FOR US TO HAVE AND HASH OUT POLITICAL DEBATE TO SAY IS THIS THE WAY IN WHICH WE WANT TO MOVE A CITY FORWARD? DO WE WANT TO BE THE ONE THAT USHERS INTO THE REALM OF NOT JUST DATA CENTERS BUT AS PRESIDENT PAYNE HIGHLIGHTED, ARE WE OKAY WITH BENDING THE KNEE TO THIS NEW ITERATION OF CORPORATE AMERICA THAT BANKS ITSELF ON AI ESPECIALLY WITH LESSONS LEARNED OF WHEN WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST OF LYFT, AND UBER AND OTHER CORPORATE IMPACTS THAT GENERATIONS TEN YEARS LATER WE HAD TO BE ON THE CLEAN UP DUTY TO DO REGULATIONS FOR WORKERS WHO WERE P OUT OF BUSINESS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUETHAT CAME UP. IF WE WANT TO DO THE CLEAN UP WORK AT THE END JUST BECAU WE WANT TO JUST SAY YES TO A CORPORATE ENTITY WITH THE HOPES OF -- WHICH IS VERY SHORTSIGHTED SOMETIMES THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET A BUMP, JUST A TINY BUMP OR THE SPECULATION OF A BUMP IN OUR

ECONOMIC REVENUE, THEN WE IGNORE THE LARGER IMPACTS OF THOSE THINGS. AND THAT IS THE POLITICAL DEBATE THAT'S HAPPENING. T I WOULD RATHER HAVE THAT HAPPEN THROUGH THE ACTUAL LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE AUTHORS BRINGING A MORATORIUM IF THEY FEEL THAT IS ACTUALLY THE PATHWAY THAT THEY WANT TO PURSUE. AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOTE IT DOWN WHEN WE GET TO THAT PLACE OR BRING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT FORWARD FOR FURTHER DELIBERATION AND CONSIDERATION. EVERYONE HERE HAS THE ABILITY TO WORK AND BRING SOMETHING FORWARD. BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US WHICH I WON'T BE SUPPORTING IS THE MOTION TO REFER BACK TO STAFF. BUT IF THAT DOES NOT PROCEED FORWARD, WE DO HAVE THE MOTION TO REFER THIS TO STAFF AND DO THE SAME WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE LKING ABOUT. THERE'S AN INTERIM MORATORIUM THAT WLB PUT IN PLA -- WILL BE IN PLACE. AND IT ALLOWS US TO SAY OKAY WE WANT TO DO MORE DISCUSSION, WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT MORE OF THE IMPACTS, ACTUALLY WE'LL HAVE A MORATORIUM IN PLACE SO WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE IMPACTS OF THAT BEING IN PLACE VERSUS NO WE WILL HAVE THE TIME TO DO THAT. AND IF WE DECIDE AFTER THE END OF THAT MORATORIUM, WE DON'T WANT TO PROCEED FORWARD, WE CAN STILL DO THAT. BUT THERE'S MULTIPLE TOUCH POINTS FOR US TO HAVE POLITICAL DISAGREEMENTS ON A MATTER. AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS IS BEING USED AS A TOOL TO JUST SAY YOU DON'T SUPPORT THE MORATORIUM IN ITSELF. AND THAT'S FINE, THAT IS FINE. WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS. WE HAVE DIFFERENT APPROACHES FOR HOW WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS REGULATION OF LARGE CORPORATE ENTITIES THAT WE'VE SEEN A LONG STANDING HISTORY OFTEN HAVE YIELDED DAMAGING IMPACTS FOR WORKING CLASS PEOPLE AND WE WANT TO B COGNIZANT OF THAT AND RESPONSIVE TO THAT DYNAMIC. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THAT CONVERSATION FURTHERMORE. BUT AT LEAST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE

LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. THIS HAS REQUIRED AMENDMENTS AND CHANGES. THAT IS NOT IT. WE'RE HAVING A POLITICAL DISAGREEMENT. AND THAT'S OKAY. IT'S ALL RIGHT TO BE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT. THAT IS PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS IN IELF AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE ON WHERE WE LAND ON THIS MATTER. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR. ITEM ONE THE FENCE REGULATION ORDINANCE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, IT DOESN'T HAVE LANGUAGE. I STILL THINK IT SHOULD GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. ITEM NUMBER TWO, IT'S A MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS WHICH THERE'S NO LANGUAGE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING THAT ON MAY 21ST. AND THEN THERE'S THE ETHICS ORDINANCE THAT HAS LANGUAGE ACTUALLY, IT'S THE ONLY ONE WITH LANGUAGE WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS TODAY. AND I STILL THINK THAT SHOULD GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AS WELL. I AT LEAST WANTED TO CLARIFY TO THE PUBLIC, THERE'S THREE NOTICES HERE OR THREE DIFFERENT TOPICS THE ONLY ONE WITH LANGUAGE, THE ONLY ONE THE PUBLIC WOULD KNOW PUBLICLY WHAT WE WOULD HAVE LANGUAGE ON IS ITEM NUMBER THREE WCH IS THE ETHICS EDUCATION ORDINANCE. NOW, I ALSO SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DATA CENTERS, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF FOCUS IN DOWNTOWN. AND WE'RE NOT FOCUSING ON THE IMPACT OF DATA CENTERS AND THE IMPACT IT HAS ON OUR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE GREEN ZONES, THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE HAVE WHERE WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, OUR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN DISENFRANCHISED AND HAVE BEEN FING THE IMPACTS OF POLLUTION. THAT'S ALSO A CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO BRING TO THE TABLE. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT DOWNTOWN. THERE ARE LITERAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE IMPACTED BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE AND ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM THAT HAS HAPPENED IN OUR CITY, IN OUR STATE, AND IN THIS COUNTRY, AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT DOWNTOWN. THE CENTERING OF DOWNTOWN, I GET THAT THAT'S BEING BROUGHT UP TODAY. BUT THERE ALSO NEEDS TO BE A CENTERING IN OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND OUR NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE. AND THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE GET TO HAVE.

COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON.

THANK YOU. SO WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY COLLEAGUES NOW IS THAT WE DO WANT TO DO NO HOLDS BARRED POLITICS ON THIS COUNCIL. IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, YANK THE E-BRAKE NO MATTER WHAT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD PATH. I THINK WE SHOULD LET THINGS GO THROUGH SO WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ON IT AND DISSS IT. PERHAPS CHANGING OUR RULES IS NEEDED. THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA. BRING THAT FORWARD. LET'S DISCUSS. BUT DON'T KILL OFF THE BASIS OF DEMOCRACY WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND DEBATE BEFORE WE EVEN GET THERE. WE ARE TREADING ON DANGEROUS TERRITORY RIGHT NOW. THIS WILL SET THE TONE OF THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. ARE WE GOING TO BE KILLING DISCUSSION? OR ARE WE GOING TO BE FURTHERING DISCUSSION? I THINK WE SHOULD FURTHER IT AND I REALLY, REALLY ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO STICK WITH THIS NORM UNTIL WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER.

I ADDED MYSELF TO QUEUE JUST TO KIND OF MAYBE ECHO SOME OF THE SAME SENTIMENT AROUND THERE'S THE SUBSTANCE OF THIS AROUND THE WISDOM OF A MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS AND THE WISDOM OF -- THE ACTUAL MOTION IN FRONT OF US IS TO DELAY THIS UNTIL AFTER THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THAT'S THE SUBSTANCE OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING. AND IT DID VEER OFF QUITE OFF TOPIC ABOUT LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, PROCEDURES, OF WCH I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY A CONVERSATION WE SHOULD HAVE. MAYBE WE CAN FORM A WORK GROUP ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO BE DOING. BUT I DO JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SUBJECT MATTER INTRODUCTION AND CAN COMPARING OUR LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND WHETHER IT'S A NORM OR RULE COMPARED TO FOR INSTANCE SOMEWHERE LIKE THE CAPITOL. I WENT TO THE CAPOL REVISOR'S OFFICE TO DO A ROUGH COUNT OF HOW MANY REVISOR STAFF THERE ARE. THERE'S 55 STAFF AT THE STATE CAPITOLUPPORTING DRAFTING THAT LEGISLATION AND THAT'S JUST WITHIN THE REVISOR'S OFFICE. I'M SURE THERE'S STAFF ON TOP OF THAT THAT HAVE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE. I THINK ONE OF THE NORMS THAT WE HAVE AT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IS THAT IN THE PAST, THE CITY COUNCIL WAS THE STRONG SOURCE OF POWER OF THEITY AND ALL OF THE ADMINISTRATION EFFECTIVELY WORKED FOR COUNCIL AND YOU WOULD RELY ON THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONAL STAFF TO HELP YOU DRAFT ORDINANCES. NOW, UNDER THIS SEPARATION OF LEGISLATIVE AND EXECUTIVE, WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME ACCESS T THAT PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT WE ONCE HAD. IT'S BEEN MY INTENTION AND I'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT THROUGHOUT THROUGH BUDGET AMENDMENTS A SINCE MY TIME IN OFFICE TO BUILD OUT OUR LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE HAVE THAT ROBUST STAFF. BUT ANY TALK OF RULE CHANGE TO SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE FULLY COMPLETED LANGUAGE BEFORE YOU BRING AN INTRODUCTION SHOULD BE SUPPORTED BY STAFF CAPACITY TO DO THAT.

BUT THAT IS NOT THE TOPIC OF WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US. THE TOPIC OF WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US IS DO WE WANT TO DELAY THIS TO MAY 21ST, A CONVERSATION ABOUT A MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS. WE MAY KNOW BY THAT TIME THAT WE DON'T WANT THAT AND MAYBE A RETURN TO AUTHOR WOULD BE A WISE THING TO DO AT THAT TIME. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE TALKINGBOUT DELAYING THIS CONVERSATION SO THAT WE CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AT THE STATE CAPITOL WHICH I THINK IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THE CONVERSATION TO HAPPEN. SO WITH THAT SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, WE'RE GOING TO C RETURN TO AUTHOR. WHICH JUST AS A REMINDER KILLS THIS AS A CONCEPT AND REMOVES IT FROM OUR AGENDA.

COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. NAY. COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON. NO. COUNCILMEMBER RAINLLE. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. NO. COUNCILMEMBER WARREN. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. NAY. COUNCILMEMBER CHUGHTAI. NAY. COUNCILMEMBER WHITING. NO. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. NO. PRESIDENT PAYNE. NAY. THERE ARE FIVE AYES AND EIGHT NAYS.

THAT MOTION FAILS. WE WILL RETURN TO THE UNDERLYING MOTION WHICH IS TO FORWARD THIS TO OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING FOR M 21ST. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? I SEE FOLKS IN QUEUE IS THAT FROM BEFORE THE OTHER MOTION WAS MADE? COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. I'M SORRY. I ASKED THE CLERK FOR SOME DIRECTION. SINCE WE VOTED DOWN THIS,O WE STILL HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT?

THROUGH THE PRESIDENT, YES. THE MATTER REMAINS ON THE TABLE BEFORE YOU. THE MOTION NOW IS THE ONE PRINTED ON THE AGENDA WHICH IS TO DELAY THIS TO THE MEETING ON THE 21st. THANK YOU. I SEE COUNCILMEMBER WHITING AND VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN IN QUEUE. I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. PRESIDENT PAYNE, CAN I CLARIFY SOMETHING? SO TO SUPPORT THIS VOTE, WE'RE SAYING WE'RE POSTPONING IT TO MAY 21ST? CORRECT. TO VOTE AGAINST THAT, WHAT IS THAT? IS THERE AN EARLIER PROCESS? I'M TRYING TO KNOW WHAT THE VOTE AGAINST IT IS? WHAT THAT DOES? MR. CLERK.

MR. PRESIDENT, A NO VOTE IS SIMPLY REGISTERING AS A NO VOTE THAT YOU DON'T THINK THIS MATTER SHOULD BE DEFERRED. THERE'S NO ACTION OF AN EARLIER ACTION? NO. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS TO OUR MAY 21ST MEETING. COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. COUNCMEMBER STEVENSON. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. NO. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. NO. COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. NO. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WARREN. NO. COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER. NO. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER CHUGHTAI. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WHING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. THERE ARE EIGHT AYES AND FIVE NAYS.

THAT CARRIES. AND THAT ITEM WILL BE POSTPONED TO OUR MAY 21ST MEETING. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS RESOLUTIONS. WE HAVE FOUR RESOLUTIONS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY. TWO OF WHICH RECEIVED PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT? SO MOVED. IS THERE ASECOND? SECOND. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. COUNCILMBER STEVENSON. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. AYE. COUNCMEMBER PALMISANO. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WARREN. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER CHUGHTAI. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE.

AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. THAT CARRIES. AND THOSE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED. OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS. TODAY WE HAVE ONE ITEM OF UNFINISHED BUSINESS AND THAT IS THE COUNCIL'S RECONSIDATION OF THE MAYOR'S VETO OF COUNCIL ACTION 2026A-0236 DENYING CONSENT TO THE MAYOR'S NOMINATION OF TODDRICK BARNETTE TO THE APPOINTED POSITION O COMMISSIONER OF COMMUNITY SAFETY FOR A TERM ENDING JANUARY 2030. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TOXPLAIN OUR NEXT STEPS.

MR. PRESIDENT, AS YOU NOTED THE MAYOR DID VETO COUNCIL'S RESECTION OF THE ACT OF THE COMMUNITY SAFETY COMMISSIONER AND RETURNED THAT ACT AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY CHARTER, THIS IS CONTAINED IN LIMS FILE 2026-00261 LINKED TO TODAY'S AGENDA. PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.43C AND UNDER COUNCIL RULE 7.8 AN ACT VETOED BY THE MAYOR IS RETURNED TO COUNCIL FOR AUTOMATIC RECONSIDERATION AT ITS NEXT MEETING. THAT IS NOW BEFORE THE BODY IN ITS EXACT SAME FORM WITHOUT DEBATE, WITHOUT AMENDMENT, AND THE IMMEDIATE QUESTION TO BE DECIDED BY THE COUNCIL IS AS FOLLOWS. SHALL THE DECISION OF THE CITY COUNCIL STAND NOTWITHSTANDING THE VETO OF THE MAYOR. IF AT LEAST 2/3 OF THE COUNCIL VE VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, THE VETO IS OVERRIDDEN. OTHERWISE THE VETO IS SUSTAINED. THAT MEANS IF THERE ARE AT LEAST NINE AFFIRMATIVE OR AYE VOTES ON THIS MOTION, THEN THE VETO IS OVERRIDDEN AND THE COUNCIL'S REJECTION OF THIS NOMINATION STANDS, CONSENT IS NOT VEN, AND MR. BARNETTE IS NOT REAPPOINTED TO THAT POSITION OF COMMUNITY SAFETY COMMISSIONER. WITH THAT, I'M PREPARED TO CALL THE ROLL FOR THE AUTOMATIC RECONSIDERATION.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCEDURE FOR THE CLERK AND A REMINDER THERE IS NO DISCUSSION OR DEBATE ON THIS MOTION? COUNCILMEMR CHUGHTAI. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OUTCOME THE MAYOR'S VETO BEING SUSTAINED WOULD BE HERE? AND PERHAPS THAT, MR. PRESIDENT, IS A QUESTION, THE CLERK COULD TAKE ON OR PERHAPS THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD TAKE ON. UP TO YOU. MR. CLERK, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, FLIP A COIN.

I CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESS THE PROCEDURE AND THE ATTORNEY CAN CHIME IN AND CORRE ME ON ANY PLACE WHERE I AM INCORRECT. AS WITH ANY MATTER THAT'S BEFORE THIS BODY OF COURSE, SOME DO DOES -- DISPOSITIVE ACTION IS NEEDED TO BRING FINALITY TO A MAYOR'S VETO. IF THERE AREOT NINE AFFIRMATIVE OR AYE VOTES ON THIS MOTION, THAT MEANS THE NOMINATION REMAINS ON THE TABLE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. IT STAYS THERE UNTIL COUNCIL TAKES SOME TYPE OF ACTION WHICH FINALLY DISPOSES OF IT. SO UNTIL THAT TIME, AND AS THE CITY ATTORNEY INDICATED IN HER LEGAL OPINION, THE STATUS QUO REMAINS IN EFFECT. SO PROCEDURALLY, THE MAYOR'S NOMINATION WOULD REMAIN PENDING. THE COUNCIL MAY THEN CONSIDER ANY PROPER MOTION TO DEAL WITH THE NOMINATION AFTER TAKING UP THE RECONSIDERATION OF THE TO.

CAN YOU REMIND US WHAT A PROPER MOTION WOULD BE IN THI INSTANCE?

PURELY FOR THE PURPOSES OF EXAMPLE OF COURSE I WOULD SAY ACTIONS THAT MIGHT BE PROPER AND WITHIN THE COUNCIL'S PURVIEW AT THAT TIME WOULD INCLUDE BUT NOT NECESSARILY BE LIMITED TO A RENEWED MOTION TO REJECT THE NOMINATION, OR AT THE OTHER END YOU COULD HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE NOMINATION. IT COULD ALSO INCLUDE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS NOMINATION TO A DATE CERTAIN GIVING THE COUNCIL. OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE PROPERLY BEFORE THE BODY. THERE ARE NUMBER OF OPTIONS COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER. BUT THE PRIMARY POINT, I'LL REITERATE IS THAT A SUSTAINED VETO DOES NOT MOVE THAT NOMINATION AWAY AS THE LEGAL OPINION FROM E CITY ATTORNEY STATED AND SHE SHOULD SPEAK TO THIS, IT DOES REQUIRE BOTH THE NOMINATION AND THE CONSENT OF THE COUNCIL TO EFFECTUATE AN APPOINTMENT. SO THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER PIECES THAT HAPPEN LEGALLY AND FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT. BUT BEFORE THE BODY TODAY RIGHT NOW IS THE QUESTION OF THE MAYOR'S VETO OF YOUR PRIOR ACT. AND IT TAK NINE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES TO OVERTURN THAT. IF THE VETO IS OVERTURNED, THAT IS A FINAL ACTION. THAT WOULD BE, AS I SAID, NINE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES WOULD CONFIRM THE COUNCIL'S PREVIOUS ACTION. IT WOULD DENY THE NOMINATION AND IT WOULD NOT GIVE CONSENT TO THE MAYOR'S NOMINATION AND WOULD RESULT IN AN APPOINTMENT NOT BEING MADE. IF THE VETO IS SUSTAINED IF THE COUNCIL DOES NOT GET NINE VOTES, THEN THE ORIGINAL NOMINATION REMAINS ON THE TABLE IN FRONT OF THIS BODY.

AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, MR. CLERK, WHEN WOULD SUBSEQUENT MOTIONS BE APPROPRIATE? IS THAT AT FUTURE MEETINGS OF THIS BODY?

MR. PRESIDENT, BECAUSE THIS MATTER IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY, NOTICE OF THE SUBJECT MATTER HAS BEEN GIVEN. SO AS SOON AS THE VOTE TAKEN ON THE MAYOR'S VETO IS COMPLETED, IF THAT MATTER IS STILL ON THE TABLE, THEN A MOTION COULD BE BROUGHT AT THAT TIME. IF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T TAKE AN ACTION TODAY, THIS MATTER WILL STAY ON YOUR COUNCIL AGENDA. IT WILL COME BACK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AUTOMATICLY. IF YOU DON'T WISH IT TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AUTOMATICALLY, THEN A MOTIONO POSTPONE TO SOME DATE CERTAIN WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN ORDER. SOHAT THE CLERKS KNOW IT'S NOT TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING, IT'S TO COME BACKT SOME DETERMINED FUTURE DATE BY THE BODY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.

SO TO SUMMARIZE -- I'M SORRY. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. YES, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM FROM THE LEGAL EXPERSE ON THEIR EXPLANATION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CONFUSED THE PUBLIC WHAT THIS MEANS. AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN IF WE DON'T TAKE ANY ACTION OR WE DON'T APPROVE IT. WHAT HAPPENS AFTER AUGUST 2ND? THAT'S WHAT I'M MORE INTERESTED I IN. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER, SO I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT CLERK CARL STATED. HE EXPLAINED EVERYTHING ACCURATELY. IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS PARTICULAR INCUMBENT, AGAIN TODAY IF THE VOTE IS TO OVERRIDE THE VETO, THIS PARTICULAR INCUMBENT CANNOT BE APPOINTED, REAPPOINTED TO THE NEW TERM IF THE BODY SUSTAINS THE VETO, THE NOMINATION AGAIN REMAINS OPEN UNTIL THE BODY WERE TO TAKE AN ACTION. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PROVISIONS IN THE CHARTER THAT ARE AT PLAY HERE SORT OF REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE BODY DOES TODAY. BECAUSE THE INCUMBENT IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS APPOINTED THROUGH CONSENT OF THE COUNCIL FOR LAST TERM, THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE CHARTER, IT'S CALLED HOLDING OVER THAT WOULD ALLOW SO LONG AS THE MAYOR WANTS TO CONTINUE, THE INCUMBENTO HOLD OVER AND CONTINUE IN THE PERMANENT ROLE, I'M -- IT'S AT WILL BUT I'M GOING TO USE IT PERMANENT HERE. IN THIS HOLDOVER CAPACITY HERE UNTIL AUGUST 3RD OR LONGER WITH CONSENT OF COUNCIL, THE INCUMBENT COULD CONTINUE TO HOLD OVER IN THAT PERMANENT ROLE AT THAT POINT. ONCE THE HOLDOVER PERIOD IS OVER, THERE IS A VACANCY THAT'S CREATED. AND UNDER ORDINANCE ACTUALLY, THE MAYOR IS THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY, ALWAYS HAS THE ABILITY TO APPOINT AN INTERIM WHILE A POSITION I VACANT.

HE COULD DECIDE TO APPOINT THE CURRENT INCUMBENT AS AN INTERIM OR SOMEONE ELSE BELITTLINGER BLALOCK -- SOMEONE ELSE. AGAIN IF THIS BODY OVERRIDES THE VETO, THE NT PERSON COULD NOT BE THE INCUMBENT. IF THE VETO IS OVERRIDDEN WE'RE SORT OF IN A LIMBO PERIOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO TO SUMMARIZE, THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE VETO OF THE DENIAL OF THE APPOINTMENT OF TOD TODDRICK BARNETTE REQUIRES AT LEAST NINE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. NO. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. NO. COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. NO. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WARREN. NO. COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER. NO. COUNCILMEMBER CHUGHTAI. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WHITING. NO. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE.

THAT MOTION FAILS AND THE PRESIDENT'S VETO IS SUSTAINED. AT THIS POINT THE COUNCIL'S DECISION TO DENY THE APPOINTMENT DOESN'T STAND AND A NEW MOTION WOULD BE IN ORDER ACCORNG TO THE DESCRIPTION THAT THE CLERK MADE. COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO.

COLLEAGUES, I HAV A PRIORITY MOTION BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF THIS GOVERNING BODY PURSUANT TO THIS MATTER. I DO BELIEVE THE RIGHTS OF THIS BODY WERE VIOLATED AFTER THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING OP THIS TOPIC. AND I WOULD LIKE TO CLEAR UP AND CLEAR OUT THE RECORD. I OBJECT TO THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S APRIL 15TH RECORD BEING INCLUDED IN THIS MATTER. THE BODY WAS NOTCONSULTED. I WAS NOT CONSULTED. WAS EVERYBODY ELSE? MYBJECTION IS STRAIGHTFORWARD. THAT LETTER PRESENTS ITSELF AS SPEAKING FOR THE BODY. BUT NO AUTHORITY IS DELEGATED BY THIS BODY TO THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR THAT PURPOSE. ABSENT A VOTE OF AUTHORIZATION THE FILING OF THAT LETTER FALLS OUTSIDE THE LIMITED AND PROCEDURAL ROLE ASSIGNED TO THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THAT'S IN OUR RULES. AND I THINK THAT THIS ACTION SETS A VERY CONCERNING PRECEDENT. NEITHER OUR CITY CHARTER OR OUR RULES GIVE A COUNCIL PRESIDENT AN INHERENT RIGHT TO SPEAK FOR THIS BODY. THE PRESIDENT MAY SPEAK AS A SPOKESPERSON BUT ONLY TO CONVEY ACTIONS FORMALLY ADOPTED BY THIS BODY. THAT'S THE LINE. THE COUNCIL SPEAKS ONLY WHEN IT ACTS COLLECTIVELY. WITHOUT THAT ACTION, THERE IS NO FORMAL POSITION OF COUNCIL TO REPRESENT. THE LETTER IN QUESTION I'M SPEAKING ABOUT DOES SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IT REPRESENTS AND PRESENTS A SELECTION OF INDIVIDUAL VIEWPOINTS AND IMPLIES A COLLECTIVE POSITION THAT THIS BODY DID NOT ADOPT. STATEMENTS MADE IN DEBATE DON'T CONSTITUTE ANY FORMAL POSITION OF THIS BODY. AND IT DOESN'T SPEAK FOR ME. EQUALLY, CONCERNING, IT DOESN'T REFLECT THE FULL RANGE OF POSITIONS EXPRESSED BY ALL MEMBERS. IT FAVORS SOME VIEWPOINTS OVER

OTHERS. AND THAT'S A CONCERNING PATTERN RAISED BEFORE THAT THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT USES A POSITION TO GIVE PREFEREE TO A PARTICULAR FACTION OF THIS BODY ACTING MORE AS THE LEADER OF A POLITICAL COALITION INSTEAD OF A LEADER OF THE ENTIRE BODY. ALL OF US DEPEND ON THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT TO BE A FAIR FACILITATOR OF OUR PROCESS. AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT WHEN THE COUNCIL IS CLOSELY DIVIDED, LIKE IT IS TODAY. AT MOMENTS LIKE THIS, THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S LEADERSHIP MATTERS MOST. AND WE ALL EXPECT THAT LEADERSHIP TO FAIR, CONSISTENT, AND APPLIED EQUALLY AND WITHOUT FAVOR. THE FILING OF THAT LETTER, IF WE ALLOW THAT TO STAND, WE UNDERMINE THE INTEGRITY OF OUR OWN PROCESS AND WE BLUR THE LINE BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL ADVOCACY AND INSTITUTIONAL ACTION. FOR THOSE REASONS, I OBJECT TO THE LETTER AND I MOVE THAT IT BE REMOVED FROM THE FILE IN RECOGNITION THAT IT WAS SUBMITTED WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION AND I ASK FOR A SECOND TO THAT MOTION.

SECOND. SECOND. PRESIDENT PAYNE, YOU CANNOT WRITE A POSITION, PUT IT IN THE PUBLIC RECORD AND CALL IT THE COUNCIL'S POSITION AFTER THE FACT. WHERE WE GO FROM HERE IS UP TO THIS BODY. BUT FOR NOW, LET'S AGREE TO CLEAR OUT THE RECORD. MR. CLERK, SOME GUIDANCE? I'M ON QUEUE TOO. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, THERE'S A LOT OF ACCUSATIONS FLYING AROUND HERE. THE LETTER CLEARLY STATES IT'S FROM CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT ELLIOTT PAYNE. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THE HYPOCRISY. MAYOR FRYE ACCUSED THE COUNCIL OF POLITICAL GAINSMANSHIP AND IT WAS POSTED ON THE SAME THING. SO I JUST ASK US IF WE'RE GOING TO ACCUSE THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT OF THE SAME THING, LET'S NOT BE HYPOCRITICAL BECAUSE THE MAYOR DID THE EXACT SAME THING HERE. THE MEMO FROM PRESIDENT PAYNE SAYS IT'S FROM COUNCIL PRESIDENT ELLIOTT PAYNE,T DOESN'T SAY OUR NAMES. PEOPLE SHOULD READ LIMS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO READ THE FACTS INSTEAD OF BELIEVING WHAT PEOPLE SAY UP HERE.

MR. CLERK, IS THIS MOTION IN ORDER?

MR. PRESIDENT, I DO BELIEVE THE MOTION IS IN ORDER. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF THE BODY. AND THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT SPEAKING, WITH YOU INDULGENCE, MAYBE I'LL ADDRESS THREE THINGS IN REVERSE ORDER. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ MENTIONED THE MAYOR'S MEMO WHICH IS IN LIMS. AND THAT'S REQUIREDY THE CHARTER. WHEN THE MAYOR VETOES ANYTHING, HE IS REQUIREDO SUBMIT HIS OBJECTIONS IN WRITING. IT'S PART OF THE VETO. THE MESSAGE GOES WITH THE VETO. SO THAT'S PART OF HIS ACT IN VETOING. THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT -- I'M GOING TO INTERPRET IT AS THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT SPEAKING FOR THE BODY, DOES THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK FOR THE BODY? THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO. THERE IS A LONGER ANSWER, BUT THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO. THE LAW CREATES THE COUNCIL AS A COLLECTIVE BODY. YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THAT MULTIPLE TIMES. THERE ARE NO SEPARATE INDEPENDENT POWERS PROVIDED TO THE PRESIDENT, THE VICE PRESIDENT, ANY OFFICER OR ANY MEMBER. THE COUNCIL HAS TO ACT AS A BODY. IT CAN ONLY DO SO WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF A LEGAL MEETING AND THEN IN THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM WITH A MAJORITY VOTE. THAT'S HOW THE COUNCIL SPEAKS. THAT'S HOW THE COUNCIL ACTS. SO ANY POSITION OR STATEMENT BY THE BODY HAS TO BE TAKEN IN THAT METHOD FOR OFFICIAL ACTION. IT'S UP FOR THE COUNCIL TO DETEINE WHAT IT SAYS AND WHAT ANY POSION MIGHT BE. THERE ARE CONTEXT THAT I THINK HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED IMPORTANT NUANCES. THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT DOES SERVE IN A SPOKESPERSON ROLE TO EXPRESS THE WILL OF THE BODY. BUT THAT WILL HAS TO BE EXPRESSED. AND ONCE IT IS EXPRESSED, THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT CAN EXPRESS WHAT THE WILL OF THE BODY IS. SO IN TERMS OF BEING A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE BODY, I THINK THAT'S A LIMITED OR MORE NAOW ROLE THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT IS A MEMBER OF THE BODY AND AS AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBER AS COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ ALLUDED, ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF THIS BODY HAS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS

THEIR OWN POSITION. BUT NO INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF THE BODY CAN SPEAK FOR THE BODY UNLESS THE BODY AUTHORIZES THAT. COUNCILMEMBER WHITING.

YEAH, JUST TAKING A PEEK HERE. AND I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I AM SEEING THIS VETO LETTER. AND I THINK FACTS DO MATTER IS WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ IS NOTING. TAKING A PEEK AT THE MAYOR'S VETO LETTERS KIND OF CLARIFIED BY OUR CLERKS HERE. WE KIND OF HAVE THE HEADING OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AT THE TOP. AND THEN A SIGNATURE BLOCK AT THE BOTTOM. YOURS TRULY, SIGNED MAYOR JACOB FRYE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. LOOKING AT THE -- SORRY, MY COMPUTER IS RUNNING A LITTLE SLOW HERE. LOOKING AT THE PERFECT, SOUNDS LIKE THE LETTER LISTED THAT CITY COUNCIL'S VISION FOR COMMUNITY SAFETY AND TODDRICK FAILED TO MEET THAT MISSION. AT THE BOTTOM THERE'S NO SIGNATURE THERE. SO I THINK IT IS CONCERNING TO BE HONEST. WHEN IT SAYS CITY COUNCIL'S VISION. I THINK IF IT WAS COMING FROM THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT, IT SHOULD SAY COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S VISION FOR COMMUNITY SAFETY. BUT I THINK IT SEEMS LIKE THE MOTION HAS SENSE HERE. BUT I WON'T ARGUE THE FACTS UNDER THE LETTER. I THINK WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER IT SOUNDS LIKE HAS THE ABILITY TO SPEAK FOR COUNCIL. AND I THINK IT SAYS CLEARLY AT THE TOP COUNCIL'S VISION. THAT IS ALL. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL BE VOTING FOR THIS. I THINK IT AGAIN SPEAKS TO THE SESSION THAT WE HAD TO CANCEL WITH THE UNFORTUNATE SHOOTING DURING THE I.C.E. OCCUPATION. THIS IS ALMOST END OF APRIL. THAT HAPPENED JANUARY 7TH. THAT DATE WILL ALWAYS BE SERED IN MY BRAIN. AND WE NEED TO GET BACK IN THE ROOM AND TALK ABOUT OUR CULTURE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE DECISIONS AND HOW WE SPEAK. THIS LETTER WAS INAPPROPRIATE. LESSON LEARNED. IT'S BAD FOR THE DEMOCRACY TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN. I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO THE LEADERSHIP ISSUES. BUT WE SULD JUST CLEAR THE RECORD AND START ALL OVER AGAIN. THANK YOU. AND GET US IN THE ROOM, CLERK CARL, PLEASE.

VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN.

LOOKING AT THE LETTER, THE WAY I SAW IT AND THE WAY I SEE IT IS THAT IT ADDRESSES THE MAJORITY COUNCIL AGREE. THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. CITY CLERK, CAN YOU LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE OFHAT'S WRITTEN ON THAT -- IS THAT AUMPTION OTHER THAN WHAT I THINK? WHICH IS THIS IS ADDRESSING SPEAKING ON THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL INSTEAD OF JUST ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS?

COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT, THAT'S NOT FOR ME TO DECIDE. IT'S FOR THE BODY TO DECIDE. I THINK THE QUESTION IS WHETHER A MAJORITY OF THE BODYEELS THAT THE INCLUSION OF THAT LETTERS IN FACT AN ATTEMPT TO SPEAK FOR THE BODY OR NOT. I WILL SIMPLY REITERATE WHAT I SAID EARLIER. SURE.

BOTH THE CHARTER AND OUR RULES PROVIDE RIGHTS FOR THE BODY AND RIGHTS FOR THE MEMBERS. RIGHTS OF THE BODY OUTRANK RIGHTS OF THE MEMBERS. AND THE ONLY WAY TO AFFIRMATIVELY DECLARATIVELY SAY WHAT THE POSITION OF THE COUNCIL IS IS WHEN THE COUNCIL TAKES ACTI BECAUSE YOU ARE A COLLECTIVE BODY. THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT IS OFTEN, NOT JUSTHIS COUNCIL PRESIDENT, LET ME BE CLEAR, THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT BY THE NATURE OF THE JOB IS OFTEN PUT IN AN AWKWARD UNTENABLE POSION. THEY ARE EXPECTED TO SPEAK FOR THE BODY EVEN WHEN THE BODY HAS NOT FORMALLY NECESSARILY ADOPTED A POSITION. AND THE MEDIA, THE PUBLIC, CONSTITUENTS, THE STAFF, LOOK TO THE PRESIDENT TO ARTICULATE WHAT THE COUNCIL'S POSITION OR STATEMENT IS. AND IT IS A GRAY SPACE THAT COUNCIL PRESIDENTS HAVE TO NEGOTIATE CAREFULLY. IT'S ALWAYS EASIEST OF COURSE IR VOTE OF THE COUNCIL TO LOOK TO AND SAY THAT'S THE ACTION OF THE BODY. EVEN WHEN A MAJORITY OF INDIVIDS ON THE RECORD, THAT IS NOT THE POSITION OF THE BODY. THAT IS THE POSITION OF THE MEMBERS WHO EXPRESSED IT. SO THAT'S WHERE IT CAN BE AWKWARD TO INTERPRET A MAJORITY OF MEMBERS MADE COMMENTS. THOSE ARE THEIR COMMENTS, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY THE COMMENTS OF THE BODY. SO IT'S NOT FOR ME TO MAKE THAT DECISION, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT, THAT'S FOR THE BODY TO DECIDE.

THANK YOU. JUST AS I SAID, IN MY OPINION THE WAY I SAW THE LETTER, IT'S SPEAKING ON THE BEHALF OF THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL THAT TOOK THE VOTE THAT DAY. BUT I'LL LEAVE THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT TO SAY HOW HE THINKS HE WAS INTENDING THIS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. WHAT I'M ALSO LOOKING AT IN REGARDS TO THE LETTE AND SOME FOLKS HAVE REFERENCED THIS CONVERSATION AROUND THE COUNCIL VISION AS IF TS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST MAKESHIFT BY AN ARBITRARY NUMBER OF COLLEAGUES OR JUST THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT UNILATERALLY. IF WE ARE LOOKING AT THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE OR THE EXECUTIVE TO LEGISLATIVE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE ORDINANCE THAT OUTLINES THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY IS, IT LISTS OUT THESE SPECIFI PARAMETERS THAT ARE REFERENCED AS THE COUNCIL VISION WHICHE ALL CREATED TOGETHER BACK IN 23 THAT OUTLINED THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE AND BY THEY REFERRING TO THE COMMIIONER OF COMMUNITY SAFETY RESPONSIBLE FOR BALANCING BUDGETS. THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THE STRATEGIC ENGAGEMENT WITH RESIDENTS. THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALSO MAKING SURE THAT RESIDENTS ARE RECEIVING HIGH QUALITY SAFETY SERVICES. WE PACKED ALL OF THAT INTO THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE ORDINANCE THAT WE ALL THEN VOTED ON AS A BODY. SO THESE PARAMETERS WERE NOT, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, JUST MADE UP ARTRARILY. IT REFERENCED THE ORDINANCE ITSELF AROUND WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS WERE O THIS POSITION AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYONE ELSE. BUT I KNOW IN OUR COMMITTEE LAST TERM OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, WE CONSTANTLY REFERRED TO THIS ORDINANCE IN TRACING AND TRACKING THE WAYS IN WHICH WE DID NOT SEE THE CURRENT COMMISSIONER RISE TO THE OCCASION AND MEETING WHAT WE OUTLINED IN THE ORDINANCE. OUR LEGISLATIVE GUIDELINES THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED AS A BODY. AND THAT IS A JUSTIFIABLE REASON TO SAY FOR ME I VOTED THE WAY THAT I VOTED. AND WHAT I SAW REFLECTED IN THE MOE -- MEMO. SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THERE

WAS A REFERENCE OR REFLECTION OF THOSE COUNCIL VISIONS TO THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGES AS WELL AROUND EXPECTATIONS OF THIS POSITION AND IN REGARDS TO WHAT ARE THE WAYS THE COMMISSIONER FELL SHORT. I LOOKED AT THIS MEMO, NONE OF THIS IS NEW INFORMATION BY THE WAY. THIS IS ALL DOCUMENTED ALSO IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE. WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE OF THE EXAMPLES RELATED TO BUDGET IN PAICULAR, WE TOOK THAT UP IN THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS OF LAST TERM. AN IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE. OF HOW CONTRACTORS, PARTICULARLY THE FORMER LEADER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT GAVE A CONTRACT TO THEIR BOYFRIEND AND THAT WAS OKAY BY THE COMMISSIONER OF COMMUNITY SAFETY. WE LOOKED AT AGAIN ACTUALLY THE MEDIA BROKE THE STORY ON THAT ALSO AROUND OUR RESCUE IN WHICH WE LEARNED THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE COMMISSIONER WERE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER AND COLLABORATE ON HOW TO MOVE A POTENTIAL CONTRACT FORWARD, ANTI-SEX TRAFFICKING SERVICES THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SUPPORTING MPD AT E SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITY SAFETY CENTER HOW THEY WERE PLANNING TO MOVE THAT OUTSIDE THE TRADITIONAL STANDARD PROCUREMENT PROCESS. THAT CAME FORWARD AND THE SUBSEQUENT ACTION AND OVERSIGHT ACTION THIS BODY HAD TO TAKE THROUGH A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE THAT ASKED ESSENTIALLY FOR HOW DID THAT HAPPEN. AND ALSO HOW DO WE CORRECT THAT TO MAKE SE THAT ANY VENDOR WHICH WE ULTIMATELY DID SELECT ONE THROUGH THE CREDIBLE PROCUREMENT PRACTICE, WE HAD TO DO THAT OVERSIGHT WHICH IS SOMETHG THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMISSIONER. THAT TOOK UP AT LEAST SEVEN MONTHS OF OUR COMMITTEE WORK TIME LAST TIME. SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NOT LET'S SAY MADE UP, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NOTIFIED IN THE PUBLIC COURT OF DOCUMENTS, OF THE MEDIA HAVING TO EXPOSE IT. YOU COULD BE UPSET IT GOT PUT IN A MEMO, BUT IT WAS PUT IN NUMEROUS MEMOS.

THERE WAS A MEMO THAT WENT OUT THAT TALKED ABOUT EXTENSIVE GRIEVANCES AND WAYS IN WHICH THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY WAS FALLING SHORT ALL LAST TERM. THIS IS NOT SURPRISING. I JUST WANTED TO NAME THERE HAS BEEN NUMEROUS TRACKING AND PUBLICATIONS OF THE EXAMPLES REFERENCED IN THIS AND PRIOR TERMS BY THE MEDIA, ALSO IT'S OUR OWN ORDINANCE LANGUAGE THAT WE SET THIS GOALS OF THIS OFFICE AND THE EXPECTATION OF THE COMMISSIONER THEMSELVES. COUNCILMEMBERPALMISANO.

THIS ISN'T THE SUPREME COURT. THIS ISN'T SAYING THAT IT REPRESENTS A MAJORITY VIEWPOINT NOR DOES IT SAY SO. IT ERASES THE DIVERSE VIEWS OF A GOVERNING BODY. AND IT IS NOT A ROLE OF COUNCIL PRESIDENT. NOT COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE AND NOT ANYONE TO SPEAK FOR THIS BODY. WE HAVE JUST NOW BEEN UNABLE TO OVERRIDE AN ACTION THAT NULLIFIES IT. WHAT IS THE TITLE OF THIS PUBLIC DOCUMENT? I'LL TELL YOU, WE'LL JUST SAVE TIME HERE. THE TITLE OF THIS PUBLIC DOCUMENT IS THE CITY COUNCIL'S VISION FOR COMMUNITY SAFETY AND TODDRICK BARNETTE'S FAILURE TO MEET THAT VISION. THAT'S THE CITY COUNCIL'S VISION, IT IS NOT SAYING THIS IS MY OWN VISION COMING FROM THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. JUST TO OFFER A BASIC WAY THAT WE SAY THIS, I WANT TO LIFT UP HOW OUR IGR CHAIR COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY GETS BUY IN FROM LETTERS ON THIS COUNCIL. SHE HELPED US DO THIS AFTER THE RASH OF GUN VIOLENCE THAT ROCKED OUR CITY LAST YEAR. D IT WAS THE TEDIOUS WORK OF SENDING OUT A DRAFT, GETTING INDIVIDUALS TO ENDORSE IT, MAKING SOME SMALL CHANGES THAT GAVE IT BROAD SUPPORT AND DOING ALL OF THAT WITHOUT VIOLATING ANY OPEN MEETING LAWS. TO SEND SOMETHING TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ADOPTED POSITIONS AND HAVE VOTED ON POSITIONS AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, YOU ARE VERY AWARE OF HOW THESE KINDS OF LETTERS WORK.

COUNCILMEMBER SHAFFER. YES. I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN'S THOUGHT THAT MAYBE IT WAS JUST REPRESENTING THE MAJORITY OF THE BODY. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE A MINORITY LEADER OR A MAJORITY LEADER OR ANYONE ELSE THAT WILL BE A LEADER FOR ME TO SUBMIT A LETTER THAT'S MORE OF OFFICIAL CAPACITY ABOUT WHAT I VIEWED ABOUT THIS NOMINATION PROCESS. SO YEAH, I WAS VERY SURPRISED. POINT OF ORDER, CHAIR. THAT IS INSULTING OUR MINORITY AND MAJORITY LEADER. WE NEED TO HAVE SOME DIGNITY IN THIS CHAMBER. LET'S TRY TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION ON THE TOPIC AT HAND. MR. PRESIDENT, PLEASE --

I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO THAT THE TITLE ITSELF IS REASON FOR IT TO BE PULLED FROM THE RECORD. AND I WILL BE VOTING TO REMOVE IT TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE VOICE OF EVERY MEMBER OF THIS BODY AND THE CREDIBILITY OF THE OVERSIGHT ROLE THAT'S BEEN ENTRUSTED TO US AS A BODY AND TO THE ROLE OF THE PRESIDENT AND TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE ROLE OF THE PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. YEAH, THIS LETTER THAT SAYS THE CITY COUNCIL'S VISION FOR COMMUNITY SAFETY IS ALARMING. ONE BECAUSE I WAS NEVER ASKED WHAT MY VISION FOR COMMUNITY SAFETY WAS. ESPECIALLY TO WRITE IT OUT IN THE FORM OF A LETTER. IT REALLY IS AN ATTACK ON A PERSON THAT I RESPECT GREATLY. I VOTED FOR TODD BARNETTE. I WOULD NEVER SAY SOME OF THESE THINGS IN THIS LETTER. I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T PUT IT IN THE PUBLIC RECORD TO FURTHER EMBARRASS HIM AND HIS AMAZING -- POINT OF ORDER, ASCRIBING MOTIVE. THE LETTER EXISTS.

POINT OF ORDER, THAT'S A PRIORITY MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. PLEASE CONTINUE, JUST FOCUS ON THE CONTENT.

THE LETTER EXISTS. THE LETTER IS IN THE RECORD. THE PUBLIC CAN READ THE LETTER. THE LETTER IS THERE. I GET TO SPEAK UP FOR MYSELF AND SAY THAT I WOULD NOT SAY SOME OF THESE THINGS IN THIS LETTER. THAT IT FURTHER HARMS THE COMMISSIONER BY PUTTING IT IN THE RECORD AND SAYING THAT THIS IS OUR VISION. THIS IS NOT MY VISION. I WAS NEVER CONSULTED ABOUT THIS LETTER. A COLLEAGUE SAID LOOK INTO LIMS, YOU WROTE A LETTER. NO, I DID NOT. THERE ARE NO SIGNATURES ON THIS LETTER TO SAY. THE VOTE WAS ONE AWAY FROM BEING APPOINTED. SO YEAH, IT WAS A MAJORITY, BUT SIX OF US SAID WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONER. WE WANT TO CONTINUE THIS. AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE SAID WELL THIS IS WHY WE WORKED AGAINST HIM. THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS. I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE, ABOUT MANY THINGS AROUND YOU BEING THE PRESIDENT BUT THERE BEING 13 ELECTION CERTIFICATES. I AM HERE TO REPRESENT WARD 4. I HAVE A VOICE AS EQUAL A ANYONE ELSE UP HERE DOES. I DON'T LIKE THIS. I DON'T THINK THIS IS OKAY. I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THIS GETS TAKEN OUT OF THE RECORD ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL AND EITHER PRESIDENT PAYNE CAN WRITE HIS OWN LETTER AND PUT IT IN OR WHOMEVER WANTS TO JOIN IN CAN. BECAUSE I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE AFFILIATED WITH THIS AT ALL.

COUNCILMEMBER WARREN.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYN WHEN MYSELF AS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER FIRST WAS ELECTED, MYSELF AND SEVERAL OF THE NEW COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, ELIZABETH SHAFFER, JAMISON AND COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON, WE SAT DOWN AND DRAFTED A LETTER IN SUPPORT AND WE TOGETHER TALKEDBOUT HOW WE WANTED TO KEEP DOWN THE CHAOS AND CONFUSION. SO I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES STATED ON THIS BODY EARLIER TODAY AND THAT IS WHAT DRAFTING A LETTER OF COLLECTIVE EFFICACY LOOKS LIKE. WE WENT BACK AND FORTH, WE FOUND A MEDIUM GROUND THAT REPRESENTED AND REFLECTED EACH ONE OF OUR IDEAS AND VISION FOR WORKING RELATIONSHIPS ON THIS BODY. I WAS NOT CONSULTED ABOUT ANY SAID LETTER. AND I'M A WRITER. I ENJOY WRITING. I KNOW MY LETTERS AND MY NUMBERS. AND I HAVE THE ABILITY TO READ AND COMPREHEND. SO IF ANYONE IS GOING TO SPEAK FOR ME OR WITH ME ON BEHALF OF ANYTHING, IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU WOULD CONSULT MYSELF OR MY STAFF. I'M DISHEARTENED THAT INDIVIDUALS MAY FEEL HOWEVER IT IS THAT THEY FEEL, BUT THOSE ARE YOUR FEELINGS AND YOU SHOULD OWN TH AND TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE YOURS. I'M TAKING CARE OF MINE AND MY THOUGHTS AND IDEAS AND IDEOLOGIES AND MY VOTE ON WHERE

I STAND AND MY POSITION. AND NOT TO OVERRIDE ANYBODY ELSE'S ANYTHING, BUT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING, COME AND ASK ME. AND I THINK I'VE MADE THAT CLEAR IN SEVERAL PUBLIC STATEMENTS THAT I'VE MADE. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THIS LETTER HAS TO BE REMOVED, BUT I THINK THAT THE AUTHORS WHO ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS LETTER SHOULD BE SIGNING THIS LETTER SO THAT INDIVIDUALS KNOW AND UNDERSTAND WHO IS IN SUPPORT OF WHATEVER THE IDEOLOGIES ARE THAT ARE ATTACHED WITH THIS LETTER THAT THOSE INDIVIDUAL AUTHO AND CO-AUTHORS IN SUPPORT OF THE LANGUAGE IN THIS LETTER THEN SIGN OFF WITH THEIR JURISDICTIONAL POWER AND RANGE WHATEVER IT WAS THAT OUR COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAS PUT OUT THERE. AND I THINK IN THE FUTURE IT WOULD BE FAIR TO THE COUNCIL IF A LETTER IS GOING TO BE DRAFTED THAT OTHER INDIVIDUALSHAT WE'RE SAYING HEY, THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. I APPRECIATE MINORITY LEADER WONSLEY STATING THAT THIS WAS A DECISION THAT THE COUNCIL HAD CAME UP WIT THESE EXPECTATIONS IN THE LAST TERM. WE'RE IN A NEW SEASON. THERE'S NEW FACES, NEW PEOPLE, NEW REPRESENTATION ON THIS DY. SO THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE COLLECTIVE THOUGHT AND IDEA THAT WAS VOTED UPON LAST TERM, BUT IT'S NOT COLLECTIVELYHERE WE ARE NOW. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REVISIT, THEN LET'S PUT THAT OTHE TABLE FOR REVISITING OUR VIEWS AND IDEAS FOR HOW PUBLIC SAFETY SHOULD OPERATE. BUT YOU CAN'T CHARGE ME WITH OLD BUSINESS. I CAN ONLY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR NEW BUSINESS AND I'M A PART OF

THE NEW BUSINESS. AND IN MY NEW BUSINESS AND NEW IDEAS, I'M NOT FOR IT. SO LET'S JUST ADJUST AND AUDIT THE LETTER, PASS IT AROUND, LET THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO IT SIGN IT, AND THEN THEY CAN PUT IT BACK IN WHEREVER IT WAS A AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF TIME SPENT ON THIS AND IT JUST NEEDS TO STOP. THE END. COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON.

YEAH, THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. WHAT I'M HEARING FROM SOME MEMBERS ON THIS BODY IS YOU WILL NOT SPEAK, YOU WILL NOT MOVE POLICY. AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. WE ARE IN A MOMENT IN OUR COUNTRY WHERE DEMOCRACY IS DEEPLY UNDER ATTACK. AND WE NEED TO BE SPEAKING. WE NEED TO BE MOVING POLICY. THERE IS THIS AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL AND SOMEWHAT AT THE STATE LEVEL, THIS REPUBLICAN CULTURE OF SCORCHED EARTH POLITICS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO DO ANYTHING AND CLAW ANYTHING IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING HAPPENS. TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VOICE OF REGULAR PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING THEIR MORTGAGE, WHO ARE PAYING THEIR RENT DOES NOT GET REFLECTED IN THE PUBLIC BODY. AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT LOCAL DEMOCRACY. I THINKHAT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THIS. WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT ARE WE SILENCING EACH OTHER? ARE WE ALLOWING EACH OTHER TO MOVE POLICY? ALLOWING DEBATES TO HAPPEN? I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS REALLY CONCERNI. I THINK THIS MEETING IS VERY CONCERNING FROM A LOCAL DEMOCRACY STANDPOINT FROM A COUPLE OF LEVELS. WE'VE GOT TO PULL BACK FM THIS PRECIPICE THAT WE'RE STANDING ON RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT TO PULL BACK AND LET THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT SPEAK WHEN HE SPEAKS. WE'VE GOT TO PULL BACK AND LET PEOPLE INTRODUCE LEGISLATION AND ORDINANCES OR SUBJECT MATTERS OF ORDINANCES WHEN THAT COMES. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY. WE ARE HERE TO REPRESENT AND TO SUPPORT OUR PEOPLE, OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND WE NEED TO BE LEANING INTO LOCAL DEMOCRACY, LEANING INTO DISCUSSION RATHER THAN TRYING TO SILENCE, TRYING TO DEMAND PEOPLE DON'T SPEAK,

DEMAND PEOPLE DON'T MOVE POLICY. COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A VOTE ON PUTTING THIS IN THE RECORD. I INK THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR US TO DO. SO WE CAN HAVE CLARITY AND THE BODY CAN DECIDE. AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS I ORDER. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO ADD THIS TO THE RECORD, AMEND COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO'S AFTER. THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO BRING THAT FORWARD BECAUSE THEN WE CAN TAKE A DISPOSITIVE ACTION AND WE CAN ADD IT TO THE RECORD AND THEN PEOPLE CAN BE NOTED ON IF THEY SUPPORT IT OR THEY DON'T SUPPORT IT. NOW, THIS CONVERSATION HAS A LOT TO DO WITH HOW WE WORK TOGETHER AS A BODY. I AM IN DEEP AGREEMENT WITH A LOT OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER STEVENSON SHARED. AND ALSO IN AGREEMENT WITH SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT COUNCILMEMBER WARREN SHARE THERE ARE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE WITHIN THE CULTURE OF THIS BODY AND HOW WE INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER AND HOW WE SHOW UP. THERE IS A LACK OF RESPECT AND DIGNITY FOR ONE ANOTHER. I THINK US HAVING CAMERAS AND BEING ON AIR ALL OF THE TIME DOESN'T HELP WITH THAT. PERHAPS IT CONTRIBUTES WITH THAT. I WILL SAY, A FEW COUNCIL MEETINGS AGO I FELT A DEEP, DEEP INSULT TO MY DIGNITY AS A MEMBER OF THIS BODYHICH I SHOULD HAVE CALLED OUT AS A POINT OF ORDER. BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MEMBERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO. IS TO CALL OUT WHEN THEIR DIGNITY IS VIOLATED. I WAS CUSSED AT. MOTIVES WERE ASCRIBED ABOUT ME. AND THE THING IS I'M A YOUNG WOMAN OF COLOR WITH A PLATFORM TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO

YOUNG WOMEN OF COLOR ACROSS INDUSTRIES AND I'M NOT ABOUT THAT. AND I'M NOT GOING TO NE CALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT DID THOSE THINGS TO ME AND NEVER APOLOGIZ APOLOGIZED. THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE. AND WE NEED TO CHANGE COURSE. WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO CHANGE COURSE ON THE CULTURE OF THIS BODY. AND IF WE ARE GOING TO SAY THAT WE WANT CIVILITY, CTURE CHANGE, WE HAVE TO WALK THE WALK AND ACTUALLY DO IT AND NOT JUST SAY IT AS A WAY TO HAVE A POLITICAL TOOL TO SHOW ONE SIDE IS MORE UNRULY THAN THE OTHER. ULTIMATELY, WE'RE GOING TO DISAGREE. COUNCILMEMBER WHITING AND I YESTERDAY DISAGREED VEHEMENTLY ON THIS POINT ABOUT DATA. WE DID NOT COME FOR EH OTHER BY NAME. WE DEBATED THE IDEA. WE SAID THAT WE DISAGREED. D IT WAS HEATED IN THE MOMENT BUT WE TALKED ABOUT IT AFTER AND WE WERE COOL. THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. AND THIS IS FOR EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THIS BODY. I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT LIKE THIS FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS AND THE PEOPLE OF MINNEAPOLIS DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS. BECAUSE IT GETS IN THE WAYF THE WORK. I AM FOR SURE NOT GOING TO GET CUSSED AT BECAUSE I CALLE FOR A BATHROOM BREAK. THAT'S RIDICULOUS. I'M ALSO NOT GOING TO STAND FOR MEMBERS TRYING TO FORCE A VOTE WHEN I'M NOT IN THE ROOM BECAUSE I HAVE TO USE THE BATHROOM. I'M NOT GOING TO STAND FOR BEING CALLED WHINEY OR COMPLAINING WHICH IS VERY MOGYNISTIC TO ME. I'M ALSO NOT GOING TO STAND FOR MEMBERS SAYING I TALK TOO MUCH BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. I'M GOING TO USE MY VOICE, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE STANDING UP. D WE NEED CULTURE CHANGE, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF IT'S CHANGE OF OUR COUNCIL RULES, IF WE NEED TO BRING IN A THIRD PARTY. WE HAVE IMPORTANT WORK TO DO. AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT DOING IT LIKE THIS FOR THE NEXT FO FO FOUR YEARS, AND WE NEED TO

CHANGE IT AND I'M FOR THAT CHANGE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S MANY UP FOR THAT CHANGE AS WELL. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. I'D LIKE TO THROW OUT AN IDEA, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, ABOUT WALKING THE WALK. WHY DON'T YOU WITHDRAW THE LETTER AND LET'S START OVER WITH SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IN THE PUBL RECORD. LET'S END THIS. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW.

PRESIDENT PAYNE, YEAH, I AGREE. I DON'TVEN THINK I KNOW THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE IN THE PUBLIC RECORDN MY BEHAL AT ALL. AND I CERTAINLY FEEL LIKE WE ALL STATED OUR POSITIONS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING OF COMMISSIONER BARNETTE. I THINK THAT WAS PUBLIC ENOUGH FOR ME AND IT SHOULD BE FOR EVERYONE BUTI WANT TO ALSO ADDRS IS NOT ABOUT YOU HAVING AN OPINION AND WITH THE MAJORITY PRESIDENT PAYNE, FOR ME, THIS IS ABOUT ME HAVING A VOICE ALSO. AS A MIDDLE-AGED BLACK WOMAN, I HAVE BEEN TAUGHT TO USE MY VOICE TO STAND UP FOR MYSELF AND THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING HERE. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT YEAH, THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THIS COUNCIL WITH RESPECT AND PEOPLE WORKING WITH ONE ANOTHER BUT CRY BULLYING IS ALSO A PERSON ON THIS COUNCIL. PEOPLE DON'T LIK WHAT SOMEBODY SAID. PEOPLE SAY THINGS TO OTHERS. THEN WHEN THEY GET CALLED OUT FOR IT, THEN YOU ARE A BULLY, SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING, SOMEONE DID SOMEING. WHEN IT'S BEING DONE IN A MANNER WHICH OTHER PEOPLE ARE OKAY WITH, IT'S NOT CALLED OUT. THAT'S MY FRUSTRATION ON THIS COUNCIL FOR FOUR YEARS. TREAT EVERYONE FAIRLY. WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT POSITIONS ON THINGS. WELCOME THAT, BE OKAY WITH THAT. IF I STATE MY POSITION, PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO COME BACK IN AND TELL ME WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY POSITION OR TELL ME I DON'T CARE ABOUT A CERTAIN POPULATION OF PEOPLE BECAUSE I AM NOT VOTING THE WAY THEY WANT TO. THAT'S THE ISSUE TOO. IF WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THINGS, LET'S WORK ON EVERYTHING. LET'S NOT BE SELECTIVE LIKE THI LETTER IS. THIS IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM. PEOPLE GET TO HAVE AN OPINION. THOSE WHO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS ARE JUST SAYING THIS DOES NOT REPRESENT

US. I REPRESENT 33,000 PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLISND SO DOES EVERYONE SE. I GET TO SPEAK UP FOR THEM AND I GET TO SPEAK UP FOR MYSEL AS A BLACK WOMAN. I DON'T NEED TO BE MAN EXPLA EXPLAINED ABOUT WT IT LOOKS LIKE. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 50 YRS. IF YOU ASK MY MOM, I CAME OUT TAKING UP FOR MYSELF. I DON'T NEED ANYONE TO TL ME WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OR FEELS LIKE TO ME. I WOULD NOT DISMISS SOMEONE ELSE'S FEELINGS ON THEIR EXRIENCES AND WHAT THEY HAD AND I DON'TPPRECIATE THE TONE THAT PEOPLE ARE TAKING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING UP AND OUT AGAINST HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS LETTER. WHEN YOU PUT THIS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD, YOU TAKE THE CHANCE OF PEOPLE HAVING A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ABOUT IT. THAT'S IT. THIS SHOULDN'T BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION IF PEOPLE JUST SAY THEY DON'T LIKE IT. THEY DON'T LIK IT. THAT'S IT.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PRESIDENT. I'M GOING TO BE PART OF MAYOR FREY'S LETTER. BASED ON QUALICATIONS AND RECORDS. I'M VETOING THIS BECAUSE IT WAS NOT BASED ON QUALIFICATIONS BUT INSTEAD POLITICAL GAINSHIP, OR CONFIRMATION PROCESS AS A BLUNT TOOL. TT IS AN ACCUSATION AND I EXPECT THAT WHEN ACCUSATIONS ARE MADE LIKE THAT PUBLICLY, THAT THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT RESPONDS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL. HE USED HIS WHOLE MEDIA TOOLS, COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT TO ACCUSE A CITY COUNCIL OF THIS. I EXPECT THAT THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT RESPONDS THE MAJORITY CITY COUNCIL REJECTED THE NOMINATION AND I EXPECT A RESPONSE TO THAT. THAT'S WHAT THIS LETTER DID. I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT STRIKING THIS LETTER. I THINK WE SHOULD WRITE DOWN THIS MOTION BUT WHEN WE COME TO VOTE ON THE UNDERLINE MOTION TO ADD THIS LETTER, WE CAN END THE LANGUAGE TO SAY THE COUNCIL MAJORITY POSITION. I DO BELIEVE PUBLICLY, 7 MEMBERS OF THIS BODY VOTED DOWN THIS CONFIRMATION. AND 7 MEMBERS OF TH BODY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHY WE DID THAT AFTER THEAYOR ACCUSED US OF THINGS. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR.

COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY.

I JUST WANTED TO OFFER A FEW CLARIFYING POINTS. ONCE AGAIN, I HEARD IT REFERENCED WITH EN JUST THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE PIECE THAT IT WAS OF A PRIOR COUNCIL. I WANTED TO NAME ABSENCE OF US DOING THE CHARTER AMENDMENT, IT'S NOT WHO MADE UP THE LAST TERM. THIS WAS IN 2023 WHEN THE MAKE UP OF THIS COUNCIL LOOKED VERY DIFFERENT. IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO US LEGALLY HAVING TO DO SO AFTER QUESTION 1 PASSED AND IN RESPONSE TO QUESTION 1, WE FORMED VERY CLEAR GUIDELINES OF WHAT THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY WOULD LOOK LIKE AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THAT POSITION. THAT WAS NOT DEPENDENT ON A PARTICULAR COUNCIL MEMBER OR COUNCIL ITERATION, THAT WAS LITERALLY IN RESPONSE AND REQUIRED BECAUSE OF QUEION 1 PASSING, AND THAT'S WHAT IS ON OUR BOOKS THAT ENFORCES ON THE LOCAL SIDE OUR GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE. SECONDARILY, I WANTED TO SAY I AM VERY SURPRISED TO HEAR THIS INTRODUCED AS A LEGISLATIVE MOTION TO BE VOTED ON. IN REAL-TIME, WITHOUT THE CLERKS INTERVENING, AND IN PRIOR COMMITTEES, I HEARD COUNCIL MEMBERS ASK THE CLERK, WHICH ANYONE CAN DO, TO ADD A CERTAIN RECORD TO A LEGISLATIVE FILE. SO, WHAT I SAW THIS AS, AS A MEMO WAS REFLECTIVE OF THE PREVAILING MAJORITY WHO TOOK A VOTE ON THAT MATTER AND IT REFLECTED THAT IN COORDINATION WITH THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE ORDINANCE. NOW FOR THOSE WHO TOOK THE OPPOSING SIDE, YOU ARE MORE THAN WILLING AND OPEN TO ALSO PUT TOGETHER A MEMO, ASK THE CLERKS TO UPLOAD IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO US OR A BODY FOR A VOTE TO JUSTIFY WHY YOU BELIEVE THE COMMISSIOR SHOULD BE REAPPOINTED. IN MANY WAYS, MAYOR FREY HAS THE ABILITY TO DO SO WITH A VETO LETTER WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE TYPES OF MANEUVERS. SO, I WOULD SAY THE MINORITY WHO SUPPORT, FEEL FREE

WORK WITH THE CLERKS TO DO THE SAME. I SEE NO REASON TO TAKE UP THIS MOTION WHEN IN PREVIOUS TERMS, EVERYONE HAS BEEN LIKE LET ME ADD SOMETHING TO THE FILE. THIS IS NOT REFLECTIVE ON THE LEADERSHIP PURVIEW OR PERSPECTIVES. YEAH, THIS IS WILD IN SO MANY WAYS AS OPPOSED TO JUST BEING -- AS OPPOSED TO JUST ACCEPTING THAT THE VOTE DID NOT GO IN THE WAY THAT MANY FOLKS WANT. SO, I JUST WANTED TO NAME THOSE CLARIFYING POINTS. COUNCIL MEMBER WARREN.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. AGAIN, I AM GOING TO STATE CONGRATULATIONS ON QUESTION 1 AND WHOMEVER, WHATEVER HAPPENED, WHEN IT HAPPENED, THAT'S GREAT. CONGRATULATIONS. NOW WE'RE HERE, WE HAVE A NEW BODY OF INDIVIDUALS. I SAID WHAT I SAID. ASK ME BEFORE YOU INCLUDE ME THINKING SUBJECTIVELY BECAUSE I SIT HERE THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN I AM TAILORING ALONG WITH WHATEVER IT IS THAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS DOING. I HAVE MY OWN MIND, MY OWN VOICE, AND I REPRESENT A COMPLETELY SEPARATE POPULATION. WE SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT ALL OF THESE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICES AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND ALL OF THE DISENFRANCHISEMENT AND WHATEVER ELSE THE CASE IS. DON'T STRIP ME OF MY VOICE. DON'T STRIP ME OF MY RIGHT. HOLD THAT SAME ENERGY. HOLD ON TO IT. MAINTAIN IT. MAKE SURE THAT YOU EMBODY THOSE VERY SAME RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES AND ALL OF THAT DEMOCRACY WHEN IT GOES TO TALKING ABOUT HOWE NEED TO REMOVE STUFF OUT OF NORTH MINNEAPOLIS THAT IS IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS AFFECTING ENVIRONMENTALLY BLACK FOLKS IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. HOLD THAT SAME ENERGY. MAINTAIN THAT SAME LEVEL OF CHARISMA AND EVERYTHING ELSE. HOLD ON TO THAT AND CARRY THAT MOMTUM WITH YOU. CARRY IT WITH YOU. ASK ME WHEN YOU THIN IF YOU THINK YOU MISINTERPRET OR IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT WHAT I SAID AND YOU'RE NOT CLEAR, ASK ME. DON'T JUST AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDE ME WRITTEN INTO SOMETHING. IT'S NOT FAIR. IT'S NOT OKAY. OTHERWISE, IF IT WAS ALL THAT AND EVERYTHING WAS

BASED ON LAST SESSION, WHY DID WE VOTE ANY WAY NOW? WHY DIDN'T THE PEOPLE IN LAST SESSION VOTE? THEY SHOD HAVE BEEN THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT VOTED THEN. IT WAS THEIR IDEAS WRITTEN IN STONE AND WHAT WE SAID DIDN'T MATTER. WE WERE GOING TO BE INCLUDED BECAUSE IT WAS FOUNDATIONALLY LAW. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WE STILL HAV A VOTE, WE HAVE AN IDEA, WE STILL HAVE AN OPINION. RESPECT MY VOTE, RESPECT MY VOICE, WHEN I SAY SOMETHING, THIS IS WHAT I MEAN. I MOVE TO CALL THE QUESTION. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. THE QUESTION IS CALLED, THAT'S NOT DEBATABLE. I'LL ASK TH CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL.

OUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. STEVENSON. AYE. RAINVILLE. NO. VETAW. AYE. YOU CAN'T VOTE FOR HER. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. AYE. SORRY, DIDN'T HEAR YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. WARREN. AYE. SHAFFER. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI. AYE. WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. THERE ARE 12 AYES AND 1 NAY.

THAT CARRIES AND UNDER OUR RULES, THE CHAIR HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I WILL USE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO JUST FIRST ADDRESS THE SUBSTANCE OF THE LETTER. WELL, IT'S A MEMO, IT'S NOT A LETTER. IT'S A MEMO. IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THIS MEMO IS ONE WHICH WE SOLICITED FEEDBACK FROM MEMBERS THAT VOTED AGAINST THE NOMINEE, WHY THEY VOTED AGAINST. AS COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ SAID, THERE WERE ALLEGATIONS THAT IT WAS JUST POLITICS OR THERE WAS NO SUBSTANCE TO IT. SO WE SOLICITED DIRECT FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT VOTED AGAINST, SO THAT IS WHAT IS REFLECT IN THE MEMO. ON THE SUBSTANCE OF COUNCIL VISION AND WHETHER OR NOT I'M SPEAKING FOR THE COUNCIL. SO FIRST THING FIRST, THE MAJORITY OF THE BODY DENIED THIS NOMINEE. THAT IS THE COUNCIL'S POSITION. WHETHER YOU ARE IN THE MAJORITY OR THE MINORITY OF THAT VOTE, THAT IS THE POSITION OF THIS BODY, WAS TO DENY THAT NOMINEE. ON THE CONTENT OF THE MEMO, I JUST -- YOU KNOW, WE ARE KIND OF TALKING ALL AROUND THE MEMO BUT LET'S ACTUALLY GET INTO THE SUBSTANCE OF IT. COUNCIL VISION, A BALANCED BUDGET, THAT IS NOT A COUNCIL VISION. THAT'S A MANDATED REQUIREMENT BOTH WITHIN OUR CITY CHARTER AND BY STATE STATUTE. SO I HOPE NO ONE DISAGREES WITH THAT. ALL RECEIVE HIGH-QUALITY SAFETY SERVICES AND DESERVE ACCOUNTABILITY WHEN THE CITY MISSES THE MARK. SAFETY FOR VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. STRONG, SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIPS WITH CREDITABLE CONTRACTORS AND PARTNERS. COUNCIL VISION, LEADERSHIP WHO IS ACTIVE AND INVOLVED HAS A CLEAR VISION OF A COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM IS KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THEY OVERSEE, TREAT THEIR EMPLOYEES WELL, AND IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE

CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC. THESE ARE THE VISIONS THAT WERE OUTLINE IN THE MEMO. WE'RE NOT IN A MOMENT WHERE PEOPLE CAN DEBATE IT, BUT IT WOULD BE CURIOUS TO SEE IF ANYBODY ACTUALLY DISAGREES WITH ANY OF THOSE VISION STATEMENTS. THEN ON THE SUBSTANCE OF LEADERSHIP, THINK LEADERSHIP IS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO ARTICULATE A VISION AND ACTUALLY HAVE YOUR ACTIONS ALIGN WITH THAT VISION. THE FIRST THING I SAID TO I.C.E. AGENTS WHEN I MET THEM ON THE STREET, WHICH MY MET ON THE STREET, THE FIRST THING I WOULD ASK THEM AFTER INTRODUCING MYSELF AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT IS DID YOU SWEAR AN OATH TO THE CONSTITUTION? BECAUSE I REMEMBERED WN I SWORE AN OATH. IT WAS LIKE A WEIRD COMBINATION OF MY EXPERIENCE GRADUATING FROM COLLEGE AND GETTING MARRIED. IT WAS IN THE ETHER OF THOSE LIFE EXPERIENCES. IT FELT LIKE SOMETHING BIGGER THAN ME. IT TRANSFORMED ME. THAT TRANSFORMATION, I FELT RUNNING THROUGH MY BLOOD AS I WAS STARING IN THE FACE OF SOMEONE CARRYING AN AR-15 THROUGH A GAS MASK. LEADERSHIP IS NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT WORDS WE PUT INTO A MEMO. LEADERSHIP IS ABOUT THE EVERY DAY ACTS THAT WE TAKE. I

THINK OUR EVERY DAY ACTS ON THIS BODY CARRY MEANINGFUL WEIGHT BUT I SAW SO MUCH LEADERSHIP IN THE EVERY DAY ACTS OF PEOPLE THAT WERE JUST LIVING THEIR LIVES, BELIEVING IN OUR COUNTRY, BELIEVING IN OUR CITY, BELIEVING IN OUR NEIGHBORS. I THINK THE THING THAT BOAR -- BOTHERED ME THE MOST ON DENYING THE NOMINEE IS THAT IT WAS SOMEHOW PERSONAL, THAT IT WAS ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIPS. AND THE PURPOSE HAVE A VISION THAT WE WANT TO SEE ACTIONS FOLLOWING THROUGH ON. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OUTCOMES OF THOSE ACTIONS AND SEEING THOSE OUTCOMES FALL SHORT OF OUR VISION. I SOLICITED THE FEEDBACK FROM MEMBERS WHO SHARED THAT WE WEREN'T SEEING THE OUTCOMES THAT WE WERE EXPECTING OUT OF THIS ROLE. THERE IS NOTHING PERSONAL ABOUT THAT. AND SO, I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO SUGGEST MAKING A MOTION TO ADOPT THIS AS THE FORMAL POSITION OF THE BODY BECAUSE AS A DEMOCRACY, WE MOVE AS A BODY. IT'S THE MAJORITY VOTE THAT ESTABLISHES WHAT THE POSITION OF THIS BODY IS. SO, IF IT IS THE WILL OF THE BODY FOR THIS TO BE THE POSITION, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THAT VOTE. IN A DEMOCRACY, WE ALSO BELIEVE IN PROCEDURES. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW TO REMOVE THIS POSITION OF WHICH I AM GOING TO ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING, AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE CHOWDHURYOTION TO MAKE THIS THE OFFICIAL POSITION OF THE BODY.

MR. PRESIDENT, SO THE MOTION IN FRONT OF US IS TO REMOVE THE LETTER THAT IS IN THE FILE CURRENTLY, AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE WOULD AGREE TO THAT, THAT THE LETTER WOULD BE REMOVE. A NEGATIVE VOTE WOULD N REMOVE THE LETTER, JUST SO THERE IS CLARITY ON THE BODY BEFORE I CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. NO. STEVENSON. NO. RAINVILLE. AYE. VETAW. AYE. PALMISANO. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. NO. WARREN. AYE. SHAFFER. AYE. WONSLEY. NAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI. NAY.

WHITING. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT OSMAN. NO. PRESIDENT PAYNE. NAY. THERE ARE 6 AYES AND 7 NAYS. THAT MOTION FAILS. POINT OF ORDER. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY.

YEAH, POINT OF ORDER. SO, I APPRECIATED THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD ON THE PREVIOUS MATTER BEFORE US AND I MEAN AT THE RISK OF THIS CONTINUING TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE BEAGUERED, I WILL SAY THAT SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS, ESPECIALLY WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY SHARED ABOUT MEMBERS LONG BEFORE BEING ABLE TO PUT LETTERS INTO THE FILE. LIKE THAT IS A PRINCIPAL WE HELD AS A BODY AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO. I FEAR THAT IF WE TAKE UP A VOTE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE CREATING A NEW RULE WITHOUT HAVING A COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT COUNT SILL RULES AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION. I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY TO DO THAT AND IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE. I THINK WE DISPEDF THE ITEM ALREADY AND NEED TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONVERSATION ABOUT DEMOCRACY BUT I'M NOT MAKING THAT MOTION.

POINT OF INFORMATION. COUNCIL MEMBER WARREN. BECAUSE I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT THAT, THE VOTE TT WE JUST TOOK NOW SAYS THAT I APPRECIATE THE VISION STATEMENT BUT ALL OF THE ITEMS THE LETTER NOW BECOME ADOPTED AS THE IDEA BY THE COUNCIL? THAT'S THE POINT OF INFORMATION I'M ASKING. NO. MR. CLERK.

MR. PRESIDENT, NO, THAT IS NOT THE CONCLUSION. I WOULD JUST SAY THE PRINCIPAL UNDER PARLIAMENTARY LAW IS THAT THE DISPOSITION OF ONE MOTION IN EITHER AFFIRMATIVE OR NEGIVE WAY DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY RESULT IN THE OPPOSITE, UNLESS THERE IS A L THAT SAYS, F EXAMPLE, THE COUNCIL VOTES SOMETHING DOWN. THE OPPOSITE BECOMES ITS ACT. IN THIS CASE, THE COUNCIL JUST SAID NO, WE'RE NOT REMOVI THE LETTER. THE LETTER STAYS IN THE FILE. THE COUNCIL HAS NOT SAID THAT'S ITS POSITION, SO MUCH LIKE THE VETO, UNTIL THERE IS A DISPOSITIVE ACTION BY THE BODY, THE STATUS QUO REMAINS IN PLACE.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND CLERK. ALL RIGHT. FINALLY, WE HAVE THORDER OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. [LAUGHTER].

I FIRST WANTED TO NOTE TO OUR AUDITOR PRODUCED TWO VERY SUBSTANTIAL REPORTS WITH A GREAT DEAL OF RECOMMENDATION THAT OUR BODY WILL WANT TO CONSIDER IN THE NEXT WEEKS AND MONTHS. FIRST, THE WORKFORCE OPTIMIZATION COMPARATIVE BENCHMARKING REPORT. THIS ASSESSES THE SIZE OF THE WORKFORCE ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS AND OFFERS RECOMMENDATIONS ON EFFICIENCIES, ALIGN RESOURCES, AND SUPPORT LONG-TERM ORGANIZATIONAL STABILITY. I WILL REFER THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE FOR REMMENDATION AND AT A JOINT MEETING AT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, THE AUDOR PRESENTED THE AFTER ACTION REVIEW ABOUT THE SHOOTING OF DAVIS AND THE DEATH OF ALISON, I WILL REFER THE RECOMMENDATIONS OFFERED AS PART OF THESE REVIEWS TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION. ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? COUNCIL MEMBER WHITING.

YES, THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. JUST A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTHERE, AFTER WHAT WE WITNESSED ON THE DIAIDAIS TODAY THERE IS ANOTHER TEAM BUILDING EXERCISE THAT THIS BODY W KIND OF CUT SHORT ON AND I KNOW WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT IN THE FUTURE. JUST A QUICK QUESTION, DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT HAS BEEN SCHEDULED CLERK CARL OR PRESIDENT PAYNE?

THROUGH THE PRESIDENT, AS I MENTIONED I BELIEVE AT THE LAST MEETING, STAFF ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TO FIND DATES AND TIMES THAT WORK. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MS. LOMA THIS WEEK EARLIER. THIS IS A MATTER OF FINDING DATES AND TIMES THAT WORK FOR 13 COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE MAYOR, AND MEMBERS OF CABINET AND OUR CONSULTANTS. WE ARE ENDEAFERVOR TO FIND DATES AND TIME. IF WE CAN FIND DATES AND TIMES IN MAY, THAT WOULD BE PREFERABLE. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT JUNE AND JULY AND WE'RE GOING OUT AND CASTING OUR LOOK TO OCTOBER SO THAT WE CAN, AS WE COMMITTED TO IN THE CONTRACT, HAVE FOUR CHECK INS PER YEAR WITH MS. LOMA AND HER TEAM. WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT. THOSE ARE THE MONTHS WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TARGETING. IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET THAT MANY DIFFERENT SCHEDULES TO COORDINATE.

THANK YOU CLERK. IT SOUNDS LIKE TEAM BUILDING TO COME. THAT'S THE ANNOUNCEMENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANTED TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO UPLIFT SOME GOOD WORK THAT WAS DONE HERE ON THE CITY COUNCIL. SO, THERE HAS BEEN MUCH CONVERSATION ABOUT THE UPTOWN AMBASSADORS PROGRAM AND REGRED POLICE, ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI WAS LEFT OUT OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE THAT WAS ANNOUNCING THIS PROGRAM. SO I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO GIVE HER, HER FLOWERS AND HER OFFICE FLOWERS, AND FLOWERS TO ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THE 10th WARD. I WATCHED COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI LEAD THE WORK TO BRING SAFETY AMBASSADORS TO UPTOWN. AT THAT TIME, IT WAS A NOVEL IDEA. THESE KINDS OF PROGRAMS ARE CUTTING EDGE. THEY ARE UNTESTED BUT THEIR ARE PILOTS THAT INFORM THE CREATION OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY ECOSYSTEM. SHE LED THE WAY WITH COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THIS PROGRAM DIDN'T JUST, THAT THIS COMMUNITY ACTUALLY -- THAT THIS ACTUALLY CAME TO FRUITION. OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, SHE WORKED REALLY HARD IN OUR BUDGET PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THIS HAPPENED. SHE WORKED WITH THREE DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE ADMINISTRATION, AND HER COMMUNITY TO SEE SAFETY AMBASSADORS IMPLENTED IN HER UPTOWN CORRIDOR AND COUIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU DOING THIS WORK AND CARRYING IT OVER. I HOPE THAT THERE IS GREATER COLLABORATION THAT COMES INTO THE FUTURE. I THINK THERE IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO END THIS WORK OR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS WORK ON A NOTE OF COLLABORATION. THAT IS WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO IMPROVE ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY UPTOWN. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE BECAUSE THIS IS OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING BEFORE MAY DAY. I DO KNOW THAT WE HAD A RESOLUTION BROUGHT FORWARD FOR INTERNATIONAL SOLIDARITY FOR INTERNATIONAL WORKERS DAY. I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS UPCOMING MAY 1st -- SORRY, MAY 2nd, MAY 3rd. YEAH, ALL RIGHT, IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. MAY 3rd, WHICH WILL BE NEXT SUNDAY AND WIL TAKE PLACE ALL ACROSS THE CITY. THERE ARE, I ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO CHECK OUT I.C.E. OUT NOW, TO CHECK OUT THE COMPLETE LISTING OF EVENTS HAPPENING A OVER OUR CITY, TO JUST CELEBRATE THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND COURAGE THAT OUR RESIDENTS DEMONSTRATED DURING THE OCCUPATION AND EVEN STILL AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS NEXT ITERATION OF RECOVERY. SO, I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING IN COMMUNITY WITH OUR WORKERS, WITH THE FOLKS WHO ACTUALLY MAKE THE CITY VIBRANT AND INSPIRATIONAL, AND I HOPE TO SEE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES AT ONE OF THESE MANY EVENTS THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE TAKING THE TIME TO HOST. I JUST WANTED TO AMPLIFY THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW.

SHOUT-OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT SAFETY AMBASSADOR PROGRAM FOR SOME TIME NOW. YOU DESERVE IT. IT NEVER FEELS GOOD TO BE LEFT OUT OR TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF. SO, YOU DESERVE A SHOUT-OUT FOR THAT WORK. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE AWARDEES OF THE ART GRANTS. THEY WERE ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK FOR THE POP-UP ACTIVATIONS AND THE FESTIVAL THE ONES IN WARD 4 IN PARTICULAR ARE GOING TO BE ON LARRY AVENUE. IT'S THE DIVIDER OF WARD 4 AND 5. I'M SO PROUD OF THE GROUPS RECEIVING THE FUNDING. THESE ACTIVATIONS ARE CRITICAL TO OUR CULTURAL CORRIDORS AND I AM REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS SUMMER AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACTIVATE THE GROUPS THAT RECEIVED T FUNDING, IT'S SUCH A DIVERSE GROUP AND IT'S REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS AND I'M INVITING YOU ALL OVER. KEEP AN AYE OUT ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE CULTURAL CORRIDOR ACTIVATIONS TO POP-UP AND THE FESTIVALS FOR LAURIE AVENUE COLLEAGUES.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THE MINORITY LEADER WAS CORRECT, MAY DAY IS ON THE 1st. I THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO TALKBOUT -- [LAUGHTER]. I SAW YOUR COMPUTER, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE EVENT AT THE PARK ON MAY 3rd. I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE AND ANNOUNCE THAT I HE TO EVERYONE AT THE PARK ON MAY 3rd. COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE MR. PRESIDENT, WHERE WE OWN OUR MISTAKES. THANK YOU, I GOT IN QUEUE BECAUSE WE HAD A REALLY LONG MEETING. I THINK OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL.HERE WAS AN ITEM THAT I DIDN'T END UP SPEAKING TO BUT AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WE APPROVED IT AND IT'S BEEN SIGNE BY THE MAYOR, A CONTRACT WITH TRELLIS FOR THE FIRST PARCEL OF DEVELOPMENT AT THE NICOLLET AND FORMER K-MART SITE. THIS IS THE FIRST PIECE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO GO ON THAT MASSIVE SITE AND IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT THAT IS BRINGING AN UNPRECEDENTED LEVEL OF 3 AND 4 BEOOMS TO THE AREA AND IS THERE LINE, TRULY WITH THE PRIORITIES I CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM THE ENABLED I LIVE IN, FROM THE COMMUNITY I REPRESENT, AROUND MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS GREATER AVAILABILITY OF AFFORDAB HOUSING. IN PARTICULAR FOR FAMILIES, FOR LARGER FAMILIES, AND REALLY DEMONSTRATES T CITY'S COMMITMENT TO EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT DISPLACEMENT IN THAT AREA. IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL. THIS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN YEARS AND YEARS IN THE MAKING, LONG PRIOR TO MY TENURE HERE. THIS MARKS A REALLY, REALLY EXCITING MOMENT AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SHARE THAT OR HONELY, TO THANK STAFF WHO WORKED ON IT SO DILIGENTLY OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS FOR THEIR PARTNERSHIP AND THEIR INCREDIBLE WORK. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER WARREN.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. SO, WE DON'T HAVE COUNCIL MEETINGS NEXT WEEK, BUT I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MAY 1st, ALTHOUGH MAY DAY IS ALSO A NATIONAL DAY OF DECISIONS, I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO ALL OF THE 2026 MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC SCHOOL AND PRIVATE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES. IT'S A BIG DAY FOR THEM. I KNOW WE RECOGNIZED AND DID A RESOLUTION, COUNCIL MEMBER WHITING AND I FOR THE SENIORS THATARE, YOU KNOW, ABLE TO VOTE AND ARE EXERCISING THEIR POWER OF VOTING THIS YEAR, BUT MAY 1st IS ALSO THE NATIONAL DAY OF DECISIONS. SO WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO COLLEGE, WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO A TRADE SCHOOL, A GAP YEAR, WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S A NATIONAL DAY FOR YOU TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT YOU HAVE PUT IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE LIFT UP OUR YOUNG OPLE AND TRULY ACKNOWLEDGE THEM. ALSO, APRIL 27TH THROUGH MAY 1st ISTY BET TAN COMMUNITY ADVOCACY WEEK. HERE IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, WE HAVE ABOUT 5,000 RESIDENTS WHO ARE PART OF THE TIBETAN COMMUNITY. WE ARE NOT GOING TO MEET NEXT WEEK BUT I WAS ASKED BY MY CONSTITUENTS THAT I ACKNOWLEDGE THEM AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I WANTED TO GIVE THEM THE ACKNOWLEDGENT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DO USE THIS TIME TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT OTHER CULTURES, RECOGNIZING AND SHOWING SUPPORT TO OUR TIBETAN COMMUNITY, AND UNDERSTANDING THEIR CULTURAL LUES AND WHAT HAVE YOU. THAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME. IT'S IMPORTANT TO MY CONSTITUEN. ALL OF YOU ALL ARE IMPORTANT TO ME. LET'S CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AS WE EXIT OUT OF NATIONAL POETRY MONTH. I WAS GOING TO LEAVE Y'ALL WITH SOME

POETRY, BUT I AIN'T GOING TO DO THAT TODAY. THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER]. VETAW.

I'M SORRY, I FORGOT I MY AY, THEY WOULD BE SO UPSET. A NECKTIE AND BOW TIE DRIVE FOR CAMDEN HIGH SCHOOL. WYATT HAS PUT BUCKETS FOR YOU TO LEAVE YOUR TIES IN AROUND CITY HALL. WE'RE ALSO COLLECTING -- SO WE'RE COLLECTING FOR CAMDEN HIGH SCHOOL. OUR STUDENTS ARE ASKING FOR OUR HELP AND THIS IS A PROJECT WE'RE DOING IN COLLABORATION WITH THEM. THESE TIES WILL BE USED FOR PROM. THESE TIES WILL BE USED FOR JOB INTERVIEWS AND INTERNSHIPS, SO PLEASE IF YOU HAVE NECKTIES, BOW TIES, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DONATE THEM TO THE STUDENTS AT CAMDEN HIGH SCHOOL IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY.

WE GOT A LOT OF ANNOUNCEMENTS MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD BE REMISED TO NOT UPLIFT THAT WE HAVE THE LAKE STREET COUNCIL ANNUAL MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 29TH AT 3:00 P.M. AT THE HOOK AND LADDER. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TUNE INTO ALL THE THINGS THAT LAKE STREET HAS BEEN DOING. OBVIOUSLY LAKE STREET IS ONE OF THE CORRIDORS THAT IS THE HEARTBEAT OF OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. NOW THAT WE'RE IN A PLACE WHERE BUSINESSES ARE TRYING TO RECOVER, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SHOW UP AND SHOW THEIR SUPPORT. ADDITIONALLY, HOOK AND LADDER IS AN AMAZING INDEPENDENTLY RUN VENUE AND THEY NEED SUPPORT. SO, IF YOU ARE GOING, DEFINITELY BUY A DRINK.

WELL, WITH THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED ALL BUSINESS BEFORE US AND WITHOUT OBJECTION, I HERE BY DECLARE THIS MEETING ADJOURNED. [GAVEL]