Public Safety Committee - Regular Meeting

This is the July 16, 2026 Executive Meeting of the Fire and Police Commission. Present are Commissioners Burbos, Evans, Fung, Schneider, myself, Commissioner Horowitz. Commissioner World Patterson will be joining shortly. Also present are FPC Executive Director Leon Todd, and Deputy Director Jay Pusek. The Board may receive a motion to convene in closed session pursuant to Section 19.85 of the Wisconsin Statutes to consider demotions from the Emergency Communications Manager position and pursuant to Section 19.85 , to confer with a representative of the city attorney's office who will render oral or written advice concerning strategy to be adopted by the board with respect to litigation in which it is or is likely to become involved. Following the executive session, the board may then reconvene an open session during its regular meeting concerning the demotions. Do I have such a motion?

So moved.

Second.

Second.

Okay. Anticipating no discussion, I will take a voice vote. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. We are now in closed session. This is the July 16, 2026 regular meeting of the Fire and Police Commission. Present are Commissioners Burgos, Evans, Fung, Schneider, myself, Commissioner Horwitz, Commissioner World-Patterson, Commissioner Spence, and Commissioner Ramey are excused. Also present are FBC Executive Director Leon Todd and Deputy Director Jay Pusek.

director please proceed with the agenda thank you madam chair we will begin with item one fpc two one two six two one resolution to elect chair of the fire and police commission board uh and pursuant to fpc rule three section three the chair is elected at the last regular meeting in july for a term of one year nominations are now open for the position of chair are there any nominations madam chair

I would like to nominate you to be reappointed to the position of chairperson.

Thank you. Second that motion?

Second.

Second, third, fourth, fifth. Thank you. So, but I have to ask, are there any other nominations? Are there any other nominations? Are there any other nominations? I ask that nominations be closed by unanimous consent. Hearing no objection, we will now proceed to a vote. Considering that there is only one candidate, we can take it by a roll call vote. Commissioner Burgos?

Aye.

Commissioner Evans?

Aye.

Commissioner Fung? Aye. Commissioner Snyder?

Aye.

Commissioner World-Patterson?

Aye.

And the chair votes aye. So, Commissioner Horowitz is elected chair.

Congratulations. And thank you for being willing to do this.

Yeah, well, they've got a lot of competition, so. Okay, now we have to... Move on to the election of vice chair.

Yes. So item two, FPC 212622, resolution to elect the vice chair of the Fire and Police Commission Board. And again, pursuant to rule three, section three, the vice chair is elected at the last regular meeting in July for a term of one year.

Nominations are now open for the position of vice chair.

Madam chair.

Yes.

I would like to nominate Commissioner Chrissy Fung to the position of vice chair.

Thank you. I have a second. Thank you. Are there any other nominations? Are there any other nominations? Are there any other nominations? I ask that nominations be closed by unanimous consent. Hearing no objection, we will now proceed to a vote. And I will take a roll call vote in alphabetical order. Commissioner Burgos. Aye. Commissioner Evans.

Aye.

Commissioner Fung. Aye. Commissioner Horowitz. That's me. Aye. Commissioner Snyder.

Aye.

Commissioner World-Patterson. Aye. And that is the chair votes aye, as I already did. Commissioner Fung is elected vice chair. Congratulations. Director, please proceed with the agenda.

Item three, public comment. For those who would like to speak and are here in person, please come up and sit at the front table when your name is called. If you are appearing virtually and have registered in advance to speak, please use the raise my hand feature in the webinar tools and unmute yourself when called upon to speak. Each person will be given up to five minutes to speak, and we will begin with the individuals here in person, starting with Tiffany Stark. Good evening.

Well, for twice a month meeting, I've been coming here for 10 months straight. First, I want to start off by saying my name is Tiffany Stark. I'm a community activist, a member of Milwaukee lines against racial political repression and acute mental health, social worker, and someone that's been personally impacted by the vehicle police pursuits. You guys. I'll know that, but I want to start off today by saying today is July 16th and Samuel sharp was murdered 2 years ago today. During the RNC by out of state police from Ohio, which was totally preventable this Saturday on the lead 14th and believe by the King center, there'll be a celebration and there also be a ceremony for a bench that will be there for the public to access and remember him. And actually tomorrow, where we made history, will be the two-year anniversary of 575, which we started fighting for in 2022. It was approved in April of 2023 and then stuck in court for a year. And then it was released the week of the RNC after Samuel Sharp died the next day. So that's a big win for our city, I believe. And I think it's a good thing that we have that. On Monday, we held our rally on 35th. regarding our campaign, regarding the vehicle police pursuits, and where the mother of two children died and were victims to the vehicle police pursuit. And while we were waiting for the rally to start, actually a vehicle pursuit by the police took place in that intersection. I mean, you can't make it up. We're there for a rally for this, and it happened. I mean, it was just like, to telling that this is something that's very important that we need to continue to address. So hopefully we'll be ready to go by July 31st. I heard from Aldermore today and they're making some finalizations with the city attorney and hopefully that will be ready soon and that we can finally get this going so we can move forward. I am requesting to include today's report from the alders to the alders regarding the report we'll be getting for MPD regarding the data for the last six months. As a social worker, I'm all about data and research, but when it comes to human life, it's non-negotiable, period. As we should be waiting for more data when we can make a decision regarding saving people's life, it's incomprehensible. I mean, data is important, but we can save lives, and we're going to wait for more data. That's what I've been hearing is a big concern. But when it comes to people's lives, I just don't agree with that. Also research is there, there's been research. We had NYU, we had the DOJ, you know, I wish they would really read into those reports.

As it was said, DOJ said stopping

vehicle police pursuits has no correlation to increased crime. And we are not asking for all of the chases to stop. We want to make sure our community's safe if there's a violent crime happening. We just don't want people dying over petty things that they should still be here for. Or like the example of the license plate being expired. So I just think right now, this is just my opinion. I think Chief Norman is standing really tough on this because he's had a lot of L's lately, you know, regarding the Israel trip, the facial recognition, the flock hammers, et cetera. And he's lost some control. And I feel like this is what he does have control over because we're not asking for all the chases to stop. We could meet in the middle. I just don't get it. Why innocent people are dying for something dumb? You know, it just makes me upset. My daughter will never have her father again for something stupid that wasn't even a violent crime. So. And what happens in the city of Milwaukee affects all of the residents in the city of Milwaukee, just not in someone's district. It affects all districts. And we really need to start listening to the residents because we, the taxpayers, are going to be paying for these lawsuits. As when I sat at the June 11th meeting, it was reported there is numerous lawsuits pending right now. That's going to cost millions and millions of dollars on something, we could put that money into something else to help with driver's ed or help with mental health, which is the biggest problem that everybody wants to avoid because we want to talk about everything that happens after the incident. People are angry and they cannot regulate their emotions. That's where the money needs to be. And we keep being reactive instead of proactive. And we're going to continue to have these problems in our city, not just vehicle police pursuits, but the stuff downtown, all the stuff that's happening. It's mental health. We need to help our young people. There's trauma.

So if you could briefly conclude.

So basically that is it. I just hope that we hear this report. And we can move forward on 31st and I do support. Thank you for all the support that you guys have offered and have done in the last 10 months. Thank you.

Thank you. Shannon fry.

Good evening.

And hello. My name is Shannon Fry. I'm a resident of Milwaukee. I'm here today. As some of you know, maybe the email went further than I know about, but because I had an unfortunate and really totally unnecessary interaction with the city of Waukesha police officer, ostensibly in District 3 of Milwaukee. To run right through that, I observed and then decided to intervene when it looked like a man in a sport or silver unmarked sedan was following a woman on West Wisconsin Avenue who was on foot on the sidewalk when he could not gesture her to get into his vehicle. He then decided to try to pull a fun little vehicular maneuver in front of the car that I was in at no notice with no warning to block the sidewalk thinking that I was intervening during an attempted abduction, I was shocked to learn that the man that was in that car was a cop. Asked him several times, is this woman a person of interest? Is this woman being detained? Had to play interpreter. Got threatened with obstructing traffic because I followed somebody who looked like a predator and was doing predator shit and like harassing women down the street, following them on foot. When I went to go report this to NPD, not only was there any kind of lack of urgency to this, and I did do this later after I made sure this woman got to where she needed to be safely, but when I reported this later, there was no urgency. I checked back in for over a week to get a response from NPD. I did what the NPD dispatch suggested, and decided to start calling the city of Waukesha PD. Made it all the way up, spoke with several sergeants, one of whom of note, possibly my favorite, who basically accused me of trying to file a false report. That didn't seem like the safest option to complain to. I'm black in Milwaukee County. I'm not going to Waukesha when they're already considering what I'm telling them. What I have photo evidence of them doing was not something that actually occurred. This happened in District 3. I expect District 3 to call me back. I expect District 3 to follow up, make it possible for me to report these things, make it possible for me to send the images of what I saw and get back to me. Now, me personally, I don't have much, if any, faith in these systems, supposedly these, you know, sort of systems, much like FPC, dealing with accountability. Of the people on FPC that did respond to me initially, what I got was a series of responses that were essentially either, I don't know, which was basically what I got from the MPD officers that came to my house to take my statement, and or, did you try making a complaint? Yeah, for like a week. As you can see, I have mobility issues. I need to have access to certain things, and it would be nice if we actually had something that made this complaint process a little bit easier. I do also want to point out that on y'all's own website, on the City of Milwaukee's website, emailing you is a report. It is forming a complaint. It took a week of emails bouncing back and forth and back and forth before somebody picked up the phone and called District 3 to send me, not resend me, to send me for the first time the ability to go ahead and actually submit the information that I had. It shouldn't have taken a week. If it took that much and there were that many shrugs, that many, oh, I don't know what to tell you. Well, have you tried this? Yeah, I did. But I don't get paid to do that. I'm not one of the people who get paid to do that. If it took that long, and if, in the words of at least one commissioner, FPC holds no sway over MPD, then what productive function does the FPC actually have? Why do we show up to these meetings? Why do people show up? Why do people need to call you in the first place? Because honestly, from the position I'm in, it looks like another bureaucratic hurdle or buffer between the people and the police. It was something very interesting, though. Actually, Mr. Todd, in your response email that I received about two and a half hours before I got here today, you said MPD did inform you. that the incident was logged and documented in its computer-aided dispatch system or CAD system. It was not documented in an incident report because, as reported, the facts here do not rise to the level of criminality. Stalking is criminality. Harassment is criminality. And as a person who spent most of their life either working with LGBTQIA kids who were trafficked and also in my time as a Catholic worker, housing, advocating for and working with on a daily basis for almost four and a half years, women who are often in domestic violence situations, having to deescalate that myself, because that's where I live.

You are at time, so if you could briefly conclude.

It is important because to figure out not just your preferred way of being contacted, but what's the only way of being contacted. And I need y'all to write down, make it public, you know, What actually constitutes a crime? Because by the statutes that you pointed me to, the stuff that I witnessed and the stuff that I tried to give to MPD and to this board, that more than meets the equation. Their discretionary powers don't equal a JD. And I'm sure you know that. I'm sure you understand that. So I will expect to hear from you all about the things that I sent you emails for. If you don't need them or if you don't have them, Ask any of these folks because they were CC'd in.

Thank you. Amanda Merkway.

Good evening.

Good evening. My name is Amanda Merkway, and I'm the Policy and Advocacy Director at the ACLU of Wisconsin. I'm here to talk about why flock safety continues to make Milwaukee residents less safe. It's critically important that the Common Council, Mayor, and the FPC stay vigilant and not treat the talking points or soothing assurances of surveillance tech PR teams that are handed to law enforcement agencies as unquestioned truth. Despite countless assurances to the contrary, we've seen how ALPRs have caused harm across the country. ICE and CBP have repeatedly used FLOC to go after immigrants without warrants. Kansas police used them to pursue a man who wrote a critical op-ed about their department. A Colorado police officer wrongfully accused a woman of theft based on a flock hit. In Arkansas, a mother and her children were held at gunpoint because ALPR cameras wrongly flagged their car as stolen. Here are some things that have happened in just the past seven days alone. On July 8th, criminal charges were filed against MPD internal affairs detective Chapman, who allegedly used flock's ALPR system to track two individuals' locations a total of 20 times over the course of one year. As you know, outrageously, this detective was entrusted with investigating former officer Josue Ayala for using Flock to stalk a romantic partner and her ex nearly 200 times. On July 11th, the Los Angeles Police Department, the third largest police force in the United States, allowed its contract with Flock to expire, and the LAPD deactivated all 138 of its Flock cameras. This decision followed an internal audit by the LAPD Office of the Inspector General, which revealed that over just a two-month period, the LAPD had investigated 161 car owners whose vehicles were wrongfully identified as stolen by Flock's system. City leaders stated that they walked away due to serious concerns over civil liberties, data ownership, and sharing protocols. This MPD's new Flock audit process flag wrongfully identified hot lists that are registered as a hit. On July 14th, reporting revealed that two officers with the Racine Police Department and Racine County Sheriff's deputy are actively under criminal investigation for misusing flock. Yesterday, former MPD officer Ayala was sentenced to a year probation after pleading guilty last month. This morning, reporting revealed that police departments around the country have used flock cameras at least hundreds of times to search for specific people, not cars. using searches such as, quote, heavyset male with a black and white hat or a person on a skateboard and person wearing orange vest and construction hat, according to data reviewed by 404 Media. Sometimes searches referenced a target's race or signs of their political affiliation. I understand that MPD has 31 flock cameras, but how many other cameras does MPD and the Fusion Center have access to with ALPR capabilities? MPD's no-bid contract with Flock Group Inc. was increased to $182,900 back in February without finance and personnel committee approval and runs through January 2027. Maybe MPD would say, we don't use Flock cameras for AI-powered image recognition searches like person on a skateboard. But my question is, isn't that exactly what you do with Fusis, the Axon product premised on integrating private surveillance cameras, drones, ALPRs, and other feeds into a single police accessible interface? I've seen Axon representatives demonstrate a FUSIS search with keywords and drop-down menus for AI image searches. It's terrifying. I believe MPD's contract with FUSIS is sole source because I have the sole source justification letter from FUSIS from 2022 and MPD's request to DOA for an exception to bidding to enter a contract with FUSIS from 2023. The Milwaukee Police Foundation privately funds FUSIS core devices for local businesses, organizations, and individuals to integrate their cameras into the FUSIS network through the Community Connect program. Community Connect website says there are 1,225 cameras MPD integrates with this software across the city to access in real time. To my knowledge, there is no SOP specifically governing the use of FUSIS and its AI-powered search functions. How many MPD officers have access to warrantless FUSIS searches? Is there any audit process in place to know how many searches are done, by whom, and for what reason? What do we know about these AI image recognition algorithms? with no SOP, no transparent audit trail. You know, if I leave here and someone searches FUSIS for woman, black-framed glasses, jaywalking to St. Kate, I guess I'll have no way of knowing. Thanks.

Good evening. Good evening, all. Thank you. Always thank you for being here. It's going to be hard to be more eloquent than previous speakers.

But it's interesting to me that the chief, Norman, suddenly, after I've been coming here for 10 years asking for an audit of anything, now the chief of police is going to audit flock cameras, and FRT. I asked for an audit of the guns that are leaving the station many years ago. Do we have a gun audit? Do we know an inventory? Do we know what happens to them? Are they destroyed? Are they passed along? Are they sold on the street? We don't know. It's just an audit. It's not that big a deal. Not just that. While back I said, why do we have two cops in patrol cars when they're out on traffic safety? Would it not be more logical to utilize some of the 900 vehicles that the people of Milwaukee have provided and let each officer have a vehicle? I drive by the lead street and the traffic safety unit vehicles are parked out there day and night. Very, six, seven cars often. I'm sure I don't, I'm not there all the time. They're all in the street, but those cars are immaculate and parked. I don't know why we don't have two cops in two patrol cars on traffic safety. Now we just had an incident, four injured cops in two cars. But now the real insidious part of this whole thing starts. The cops are eligible, and I don't know if they deserve a $25,000 claim against the city of Milwaukee each time that they're injured in a vehicle accident. $25,000 claim, how many of these have there been? And now you have an alderman Jackson that has changed the format of his judicial committee so that the people of Milwaukee cannot see when a $25,000 claim is occurring from a police officer. I don't know. That just doesn't make sense to me. And lastly, and I took a lot of time last time and I appreciate it, but it's been a long day, but lastly, if anybody, some commissioner could please, inquire about a clause in the police contract that allows a police officer to call in injured. I've never heard of this. Other unions, are they actually allowed to call in injured? And Chief Sarno stated that at one day, one day, 59 officers had called in injured. Check the tape from January 30th, 2025, Spiker's Committee. And I think shortly after that, there was a call for the chief and the sheriff to appear before the safety committee. They both refused. They were called to appear before the county safety committee. They both refused. But now when it's with regard to FRT, they're out in public, on the radio with the media from the suburbs. When it's about the flock cameras, we have to have the flock cameras. They can speak all day long about the flock cameras, but we cannot get information about these outstanding investigations, about these clauses in the contracts. A lot of stuff is going on underneath the surface and the previous speakers are pointing it to better than I am, but there's a lot of stuff going on. So I would appreciate it if some commissioner would just inquire about this calling in injured. And I hate to even say this and think this, but I wonder if this had anything to do with Officer Corder's death. Thank you.

Thank you.

They were on blue flu at the time, so maybe it was justified.

Bridget, do we have anyone appearing virtually for public comment?

Yes, director. We have Julie first, followed by Kay.

Good evening.

Good evening. Thanks, Bridget. Hello, commissioners, directors, neighbors. Happy commemoration of Assata's birthday to all who celebrate. Chaplain Julie Kershia, Milwaukee County resident. I'd like to share a story that has relevance to this commission. Travel back in time with me, won't you? About 10 police chiefs ago, big, powerful dude, Joseph Klucheski, Milwaukee chief of police in the 30s and 40s, Let's say he has an idea. He gets this idea in his head. He's heard about this enforcement group, this military overseas called the Schutzstaffel. And he decides he'd like to travel to Germany to train with them. See, Schutzstaffel means protection squadron. And he'd like to go train with them so he can provide protection for the citizens of Milwaukee. And he can just go. He has carte blanche authority over his training as the chief of police in Milwaukee. So he goes, comes back. A bunch of citizens of Milwaukee discover that he did this. And these citizens know about the Schutzstaffel. Their families have been living under this protection squadron and their actions for years. See, Schutzstaffel was also known as the SS, the Nazis. These citizens go to the commission overseeing the police department with their concerns. The oversight body doesn't want to hear their concerns. The commission has decided that it was not improper. This is not a concern. Some on the oversight commission say that the citizens raising these concerns are merely strongly opinionated. But you know what? History tells us differently. Thankfully, to my knowledge, this scenario with Chief Klitschewski didn't actually happen, but flash forward about 10 police chiefs to Chief Jeffrey Norman. Is he with us today? Is he there in person? We're not able to view it, and I don't see him on the call. Well, anyway, Chief Norman did this. Well, he didn't train with the SS, but he trained with the internationally condemned police. Racist, genocidal, apartheid, Zionist regime, some call Israel, that is currently occupying Palestine. Different genocide, same egregious action. This commission has the chance to do something about it, to recognize it for the disgusting thing that it is, and to try to do everything in its power to ensure that such a thing never happens again. Never again for anyone. Instead of ignoring those people who are bringing it to light, instead of being complicit with the lack of accountability and the lack of transparency. So I ask again for it to be added to this commission's meeting agenda We've been asking to do a presentation by citizens who are concerned about the chiefs training trip to the SS. I mean, Israel, the regime occupying Palestine, not five minutes here and there from individuals, a more adequate time specifically devoted to this topic and the concerns I would love for this commission to give feedback on this story to this brutally uncomfortable and accurate analogy. Free Milwaukee from an unaccountable police force, free Palestine. It's all connected. Also a slap on the wrist for Ayala. Come on. Thank you for your time.

Thank you. And Bridget, I apologize. Who was up next?

Hey,

Hello.

I second everything Julie said. I'm coming to you again with some reporting I've been doing in between the meetings. And I will again be talking about surveillance. Before I start talking about that specifically, though, I just want to say I'm coming to this meeting with a really, really heavy heart around the smoke in the air, around approvals for oil tunnels in my home state of Michigan and just around climate change generally. And I want to remind everybody here that surveillance and the climate are very connected. Corporations are responsible for like a massively large percentage of the world's emissions and war creates a lot of carbon. Just wanted to put that out there. More specifically, I recently obtained a list of all of the Milwaukee police officers who have access to flock system. The first thing I want to say is that I thought that we were down to like maybe 100 users based on recent interviews with the MPD that I've seen. Maybe I didn't read or like watch correctly. That's possible, but I was just shocked at the sheer number of people. Um, the other thing I want to point out is that three of those officers also were as of fall 2025 on the Brady list, meaning that they have a history of some kind of misconduct or credibility issues. So I continue to be deeply concerned about the use of flock in the city. Um, I can't believe that probation and a $500 fine. were considered appropriate consequences for somebody literally terrorizing victims with state surveillance technology. Yeah, I think that's pretty much all I wanted to say. Free Palestine. Oh, and land back to the tribal nations, I mean. Okay, thanks.

Thank you. Bridget, is there anyone else appearing virtually for public comment?

I do not believe so. We do have Linda on the line.

Linda, did you plan to speak at all? I do not believe so. So I think we are done with the virtual public comment, Director. There being no further public comments, this concludes the conference. public comment that portion of the meeting director please proceed with the agenda.

It will now be the items on the consent agenda after I do so any commissioner may remove any of these items to the regular agenda for discussion or appropriate action items not removed may be adopted by general consent without debate item for a PC 2, 1, 2, 6, 2, 3, resolution relating to the July 2, 2026 meeting minutes Item 5, FPC 212624, resolution relating to the request to re-exempt the administrative specialist senior position within the Department of Emergency Communications. Item 6, FPC 212625, resolution relating to the eligible list for the youth fleet apprentice position within the Milwaukee Fire Department. Item 7, FPC 212626, Resolution relating to the request to refer to the Department of Employee Relations a request for a classification study for the youth carpenter apprentice positions within the Milwaukee Fire Department. Item 8, FPC 212627. Resolution relating to the appointment to the management account senior position within the Department of Emergency Communications. Item 9, FPC 212628. Resolution relating to the appointment to the building maintenance supervisor position within the Milwaukee Police Department. Item 10, FPC 212629, resolution relating to the appointments to the crime analyst one position within the Milwaukee Police Department, two appointments. Item 11, FPC 212630, resolution relating to the appointment to the electronic technician three position within the Milwaukee Police Department. Item 12, FPC 212631, resolution relating to the appointment to the electronic technician one position within the Milwaukee Police Department. Item 13, FPC 212632, resolution relating to the appointment to the HVAC maintenance technician three position within the Milwaukee Police Department. Item 14, FPC 212633, resolution relating to the promotions to the office assistant two position within the Milwaukee Police Department, two promotions. Item 15, FPC 212634, Resolution relating to the appointments to the police district administrative assistant position within the Milwaukee Police Department for appointments and item 16 FPC 212635. Resolution relating to the appointment to the police services specialist investigator position within the Milwaukee Police Department. This concludes the consent agenda.

Would any of the commissioners like to remove any of these items from the consent agenda to the regular agenda?

there are no objections the items on the consent agenda will be adopted by general consent are there any objections hearing no objections these items are adopted director please proceed with the agenda it's my understanding that before taking up the items under examinations we will be taking items picking up items 31 and 32 under the department of emergency communications starting with item 31 FPC 212660, resolution relating to the demotion on probation of the emergency communications manager within the Department of Emergency Communications. And just as a procedural note, pursuant to FPC Rule 11, Section 7B, in these types of situations upon request of the affected individual the board shall interview the individual in closed session and thereafter in open session determine whether or not to affirm the demotion very good the board met earlier today in closed session to consider this item I think that we had a good opportunity to hear from both the

employees and management. Do any of the commissioners have any additional questions or comments? Is there, well, how would we frame this?

I would recommend either, substantively, either a motion to affirm the demotion or a motion to overturn the demotion.

Okay. Do we have a motion on this matter?

Madam Chair, I move that we overturn the motion.

Second. Is there any further discussion? I'll take a roll call vote. Commissioner Burgos?

Aye.

Commissioner Evans?

Aye.

Commissioner Flong? Aye. Commissioner Snyder?

Aye.

Commissioner World-Patterson? Aye. And the chair votes aye. Motion carries. That is to say that the motion in question will not occur. Correct?

Yes.

All right. Director, please proceed with the agenda.

Item 32, FPC 212661, resolution relating to the demotion on probation of an emergency communications manager within the Department of Emergency Communications.

The board also met in closed session to consider this item. Do any of the commissioners have any additional comments or questions? Is there a motion on this matter?

Madam Chair, I move that we overturn this motion.

Second. Any discussion? I'll take a roll call vote in alphabetical order. Commissioner Burgos? Aye. Commissioner Evans? Aye. aye commissioner fong aye commissioner schneider aye commissioner world patterson aye and the chair votes aye motion carries uh director please proceed with the agenda right and then moving back to uh the item under examination

Starting with item 17, FPC 212636, resolution relating to the fire cadet job announcement bulletin for the Milwaukee Fire Department.

Oh, I'm catching up with this. Okay, so this is relating to a fire cadet job announcement bulletin. Do any of the commissioners have any comments or questions regarding this item? Is there a motion?

So move. Second.

Any discussion? I will take a voice vote on this item. All in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. Director, please proceed with the agenda.

Item 18, FPC 212637, resolution relating to the police aid job announcement bulletin for the Milwaukee Police Department.

Do any commissioners have any questions or comments regarding this item? Okay. Then it's time for a motion.

Move to accept.

Second. Any discussion? I'll take a voice vote on this item. All in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye. Aye.

aye any opposed any abstentions motion carries director please proceed with the agenda next item is item 19 fpc 212659 resolution relating to the police officer eligible list for the milwaukee police department this is the eligible list for the class that will start in december of this year class 3 of 2026 They just completed the PRT or the physical readiness test. And I just wanted to point out, Madam Chair, if you'll indulge me, that for the past, you know, five or six eligible lists that we've had, we've been averaging, you know, around, you know, 62 or so candidates on the eligible list. We have 101 on this list, including eight who are contingent passes based on the new modified requirements. PRT that we're doing, which I think is a decent number. And also this is in the file as well. The eligible list almost exactly mirrors the demographics of the city of Milwaukee. So I think this is a significant improvement. And I think it's in large part due to the excellent work that our staffing services and team and recruiting team do. And I just wanted to give them a shout out for great work.

Okay. That's very, very good news. Any questions or comments from commissioners? Okay. Who will move? Who will give me a motion? Move approval.

Second.

Thank you. Any discussion? I will take a voice vote on this item. All in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. Director, please proceed.

I will now read the items under new business, starting with item 20, FPC 212639, communication from the Department of Emergency Communications relating to recent changes to DEC operational policies.

Is a member of the Department of Emergency Communications wish to make any comments regarding these policy changes?

Ma'am, Deputy Director Dumourant speaking on behalf of the DEC. I know we have an extensive list of policies there, and that has been the result of many months of collaboration with our MFD partners in making sure that our response plans are exactly what they would like. And we just wanted to make sure that we codified any call types or any situations or policies, procedures, all those types of things So it's just a matter of consistency on all three shifts. And that way, you know, it serves as a reference for all of our employees and also for MFD employees, if they have any questions.

Okay. Well, in the file, there's a, what kind of, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. There's information in the file about this. It consists of several communications. I have a question. Is this the first compilation of policies that we're seeing from DEC?

No, that is not.

Sorry, I'll let you go.

Go ahead. sorry we have had previous policies that were reviewed by your board but these are newer fire related policies that we've been working on this year okay so they're not a change of any policies already approved is that correct that is correct ma'am any questions

Just a brief question. Do you anticipate, I guess, significant additional policies being added in the near future?

Perhaps in the future as a result of the CALEA accreditation, because as I mentioned earlier in the executive briefing, there's over 200 standards that we need to show that we're adhering to, and a lot of those would involve creating policies which would note how we manage whatever issues that the accreditation is looking at. Okay, thank you.

Are the ones being submitted related to requests or requirements of the accreditation?

This is more about making sure that we are on the same page as the fire department and ensuring that our response plans match their expectations.

Okay. Any further questions or comments from commissioners? Okay. Any motions?

Move for approval. We don't need a motion.

Oh, it's just a communication.

oh that's right i forgot we don't get to review policy anymore well technically for dec you still could but um i did not put it on as a resolution to tinker but uh you could if you wanted to well at a subsequent meeting that's okay okay communications uh

then please proceed. Yes.

Item 21, FPC 212640, communication from the Milwaukee Police Department relating to vehicle pursuit data during 2026 year to date. And for this item, we have Assistant Chief Craig Sarna with us.

Thank you, Assistant Chief. Thank you.

They had afforded my presentation to, uh, Bridget's, uh, yesterday. So I hope you all had a chance to get it. I understand if you haven't had a chance to review it, but it forward or the PowerPoint today. Uh, so she could bring it up for me. I'd appreciate. Leave Mr wall left, but with regards to what he said about what I said about 59 people calling in, um, that is not accurate. I was presenting along with the chief of staff, a staffing. Update to the public safety and health committee and what I said was, we had 59 people members, excuse me on limited duty. So that's different than 59 people calling it.

Yeah, that's a big difference.

Well, I appreciate the time, Madam Chair, Commissioners, to share with you and the public a six-month overview of where we stand on our efforts to reduce traffic violence. Last month, I had the privilege of being part of the 2026 Vision Zero Summit. I was part of a three-person panel along with City Attorney Alex Mueller and former Chief Judge, now Professor, excuse me, Mary Trigiano. Each of us had a different area that we talked about. Professor Trujano focused on restorative justice. Alex Mueller, City Attorney Mueller, focused on prosecution, and I focused on accountability. Based on my experience at the summit, along with something I heard in public comment two sessions ago from someone who said who didn't believe the police were involved enough when it comes to traffic enforcement and reducing reckless driving, I felt the need to expand what I presented previously to what you have before you, accountability on the road and our role in reducing reckless driving to now kind of see what the entire spectrum of our enforcement activity looks like. So you can go to the next slide, Bridget. So reckless driving continues to be one of the most serious threats to our roadway safety. You will see, so the top part of this slide reflects a full year's worth of reckless driving, CAD calls, the calls for service we get related to reckless driving arrests, the citations issued just for reckless driving, and then reckless driving citations, all the other citations that are in the universe of reckless driving. And you'll see that although we, in 2020, was the high watermark for CAD calls, 2,175, and they've progressively gone down over the years to 2025, where we did see, though, a 1% increase, which is why it's highlighted in red from the year before, going from 975 to 985 calls, people calling in complaints for reckless driving. Arrests increased quite a bit, 43%. I do believe that's a direct reflection of the proactive enforcement and some of our targeted initiatives that we have to combat reckless driving as a result. Citations, though, have gone down for the entire year of 25, gone down 12%, and then there is no statistical difference between the other universe of citations, 12,543 to 12,587. The bottom part of this slide just reflects a comparison of six months' worth of data because this is a six-month update. So, comparatively, six months for each of the respective years, and you'll see a 33 percent decrease in the number of reckless or calls for reckless driving. You'll see decreases for the number of arrests we had compared to last year, decreases for the reckless driving citations themselves. And reckless driving citations includes those for the first offense, which are municipal violations, and the second offense, which are criminal violations that result in a mandatory arrest. Overall, it's a 2% decrease. I wish I could tell you that that 36% decrease in total calls is a result of our collective efforts out there because we are not alone. We are in this with DPW and all the efforts they're making to ensure these roadways are designed differently to kind of reduce some of this reckless driving. I would like to think that we are assisting and bringing that number down, but I can't say for sure. This is one of those qualitative data points. And this is one of my action items I had for you, Executive Director. This is something that I believe should be reflected in the next community or customer satisfaction survey. I know the last one in 2024 reflected people were overly concerned with reckless driving. They did not feel we did enough. So I do feel that now or whenever the next one is, I think it would be a good time to revisit that issue to see how they feel now about it. Or is this a sign that people are just becoming numb to reckless driving out there. That was one of the thoughts that went through my head when I was putting this together. We shouldn't go down the road. I don't want to believe that we're normalizing traffic violence and reckless driving, but it is something I do think that we need to kind of dig into a little bit more. And I think that that survey would be the best way to go about doing it.

Agreed. And we are doing another iteration of the survey this year. Quick question. The last category, reckless driving citations with speeding, does that mean... They're given two different citations, or is it a different category?

That includes a universe of 34 possible other citations. So you have 18 municipal citations, and some of those include failure to obey. I just wrote some of these down. Failure to obey traffic sign or signal, deviating from lane or traffic, unreasonable and improved speed, driving too fast for conditions, etc., The criminal statutes, though, that are associated with that, that results in an arrest. You still have to write the traffic citation, though, as a matter of course, because that's what gets referred to circuit court. Those include reckless driving causing bodily harm, reckless driving causing great bodily harm, reckless driving endangering safety, et cetera. Okay. I hope that answered your question.

And so based on... I had the pleasure of attending your vision 0 presentation and based on the city attorney's portion of the presentation, even though we see a decrease in reckless driving citations, I think, I guess I'm saying it was probably fair to assume. that the results of the citations are perhaps different than they would have been in the past with sort of like a different level of follow through with the city attorney's office is that correct yeah I think that that's a that's a fair statement yes next slide Bridget so toes as I said toes are a big part of our

of our overall strategy. This is essentially, we're essentially taking the weapon out of the hands of those that have shown they are irresponsible when it comes to operating a vehicle behind the wheel. And since 2022, we have towed a total of 920 cars. There are three different categories of tows that are reflected here. And for the longest period of time, you'll see May 1st of 2022, we only had the ability to tow For unregistered motor vehicle, that means any vehicle that did not have proper registration. We had the ability to tow it as long as we issued 1 of the following 3 citations fleeing from officer racing on the highway exceeding speed that was posted more than 25 miles an hour. So we had the ability to tow the vehicle, issue them one of those tickets along with the unregistered vehicle, and the car was towed. That changed on June 2nd of 2023 when the law added reckless driving repeat offender. That was from June 23 through 25. That, as you can see by the numbers, really wasn't issued as much. It wasn't until the advocacy of Alderman Westmoreland, which led to the change because you'll see the end date for reckless driving repeat offender then became the reckless driving ordinance as we know it now that's ordinance 101-24.9 which gives us the authority to impound vehicles when someone engages in a reckless driving incident and this once we take the car and tow it to the city tow lot that owner is responsible for paying all the towing fees, storage fees, the transportation fees, in addition to any outstanding fines they have on the vehicle. So parking tickets or any other municipal traffic tickets they may have on the record, they cannot get their car out until they actually pay those off and show proof of payment. So that to date has really increased the numbers, as you see there. We have 102 year-to-date this year already.

Are we seeing an increase in vehicles that are sort of effectively abandoned because owners are not willing or able to pay that off?

Unfortunately, no, Commissioner Fung. I've been told since the toll lot falls under, Inspector Grant and I in the Administration Bureau, it's under property control. What I was told by Manager Menzo is that these cars, because that was one of our concerns, right, when we first went down this path of towing these cars, we are going to, because we do have limited space out there, We were concerned that we were going to be presented with the issue that you brought up, but that is not the case. We are finding that people are coming to the lot and paying what they need to pay to get their cars out. They're not being held for any extreme length of time.

I have a question. If the car was stolen and is involved and is then towed, is it's the owner's responsibility then to retrieve the, to pay for everything, or is there?

No, the SOP does reflect, and the SOP is SOP 610 towing of vehicles, that it outlines what we need to do, the questions we need to ask if the vehicle is in fact reported stolen, because we do have people, individuals that do try to you know, get around this by reporting the vehicles stolen to get around paying whatever the fines are and the fees that are associated with this. That's where a good solid investigation comes into play to kind of discern what that is, if that's factual or not.

Okay, thank you.

Bridget next slide. Uh, vehicle pursuits 2009 to year to date 2026 and what you see here is, um. 2 decades worth of pursuit data I've showed this before, but you'll see the drop from 970. that's the total number of pursuits and I'm focused on the top right now. We had 970 pursuits. Um, and currently, as we, uh, as it stands right now, we are at, um. 397 pursuits here today. That's about 66 pursuits per month, which puts us on track if that average holds to 794 pursuits for the year, which would be an 18% decrease from what we saw last year. The bottom part of this slide reflects the non-pursuits we have per month. Granted, the top blue line is for the entire year of 25. We're only through the end of June. And as it stands right now, we have 347 non-pursuits here today to 661 this time last year. So it's almost a 50% decrease from where we were last year. Again, a non-pursuit is where we do have the factors to initiate a pursuit, but due to the speed, due to the distance between the squad car and the suspect vehicle, a pursuit is not initiated. yet it is still, the officers still go out with it, and that's why it's tracked in the CAD, just so we can keep track of those numbers.

Sorry, what day is this through?

This is through, so all the data you see here, six months is January 1st through June 31st, or is it June 30th? Yeah, end of June.

And what would you say are the main contributors for the decrease?

It's hard to say right now. The changes we made to our pursuit policy went into effect in February, and I was going to kind of address some of that as we get to the end, Commissioner Whirl-Patterson.

Okay, that sounds good.

Next slide, please. Reason or outcome. So we had a total of, again, 397 pursuits, down 24% of them on the bottom of the first left-handed column here. Down 24%. We're down pretty much across the board in all categories, with the exception of drug offense, a slight uptick in pursuits related to substantial drug investigations. Again, it went from 8 to 10, but you're dealing with such a small number. That's why it reflects a little bit larger than what you might think, 25%. Traffic offense for reckless vehicles, 388 last year compared to 309 this year, down 20%. But, and although that decreases 20% compared to 2025, pursuits associated with reckless driving offenses still account for 78% of all of our vehicle pursuits year to date. When you're talking about outcome, again, just kind of a, or I'm sorry, when you're talking about the additional reasons, you'll see wanted felony crime, zero last year, 59 this year, and then violent felony 105 to 10. It's not that we didn't have any, wanted individuals for a felony crime that's last year. We just had it issued or we just had it coded in the CAD as violent felony. And when we went to the new benchmark system, it broke it down for wanted felony crime. That refers to something, a felony that happened previously in which, for instance, wanted in connection with an armed robbery, wanted in connection with a homicide or a non-fatal shooting. and then a chase would be initiated for that. Violent felony refers to something that is a little bit more recent, a little bit more fresh, something that's in progress. Outcomes on the right, again, terminated by law enforcement, this would indicate, and again, all of these have decreased for a total of 24%. Terminated by law enforcement would indicate that the pursuing squad terminated that pursuit for any number of reasons. That could be weather. It could be traffic. It could be speed, et cetera. It could also mean not just the officer, but the supervisor canceled it as well. Terminator violators stopped. That refers to if the driver stopped on their own or if some type of tire deflation device was used. Terminated by crash. Unfortunately, crash is exactly what it says it means. Violator escaped means that the pursuing squad does not have any more visual contact. with the violator and us, the, um, squad itself, uh, the squad self canceled as a result of that vehicle failure is, um, just that the, um, vehicle that we're chasing or pursuing, um, stopped because of some kind of mechanical issue. Next slide please. Uh, rest charges. Um, so we have seen, um, This reflects a total of the number on the bottom is the total number of individuals that have been arrested, and that includes both drivers and passengers. Again, all these categories are down, but if you were to add up all the numbers that are shown within there, resisting, obstructing, all the way down through probation and parole, that averages out to 920. So we had 300 subjects, drivers and passengers, were arrested for a total of 992, excuse me, criminal offenses. Again, and I've said this before, there's a level of criminality commissioners and to members of the public that go far beyond just the act of reckless driving itself. What a lot of people don't really take into account because they get so focused on the pursuit, and I understand why, is all the other criminality that comes as a result of that. And these charges reflect that. The weapons that are recovered, the drugs that are recovered, et cetera. next slide please crashes and fatalities this represents a full year's worth of data on the top again again we're seeing really good numbers green is good things are decreasing fatal injuries gone from 66 and these are full year numbers again on the top through 25 um, 66 to 55. So we're down 17%. Uh, I added a category in here. So of the fatal crashes and the fatal injuries that we've had, how many of those are related to reckless driving? You'll see that line right below that. So we had 42 of the 66 were related to reckless driving, um, in 24. And then we had 28 out of the 55 were, uh, were related to reckless driving in 2025. If you look at the bottom, now we're looking at six months' worth of data. Again, we're seeing noticeable decreases as far as fatal injuries, reckless fatal injuries and crashes go. Hit and runs still tend to be a little bit stubborn as that goes. I don't see how and why people feel that it's okay to get into an accident and then just take off. But given the level of criminality that I had previously highlighted, I do think that that's a reason why. Overall crashes, though, still have increased 6850 to 7,475 January 1st through June 31st, last year to this year.

In the subcategory, in the reckless subcategory, is that both that the pursuit occurred as a

Those are just the fatalities that happen outside the world of police pursuits.

Vehicles.

Correct.

So it's excluding all pursuits? Yes. Okay, thanks.

Next slide, please. Pursuit crashes and injuries, 2026 year to date. So one-third of all pursuits have resulted in a crash, approximately 134 incidents. 4% of all those pursuits involved third-party injuries. 64% or nine incidents were tied to a reckless driving pursuit. We had eight officers that were injured in pursuit-related incidents. We did not have any fatalities to suspects or third parties during the first six months of 2026. Next slide, please. I've shown this previously so this reflects the total number of fatalities and then the highlighted number in yellow reflects the number of pursuit related fatalities so in 2026 here today we have had 15 fatalities related to driving none of those we haven't had any though that have been as a result of a police pursuit Um, year to date last year, we had 6 incidents that resulted in 9 deaths. So we had, you know, as you'll see there 46, and then we have the 9, which gives us a total of 55. Since 2016 through now. We've had a total of 58 pursuit related fatalities 58 out of 646, which account for about 9%. The biggest change that I've made to this and I've spoken about this previously is in 2024. It used to say one out of 67. Now it reflects two out of 67 to reflect the death of Mr. Andrew Higgins, Tiffany Stark's husband, and I'm truly sorry. That was the biggest change since the last time I presented the commission. Next slide, please. Summary of findings. The average age of the pursuit driver has actually gone up since the last time I was here. And we're now looking at individuals who are 27 years old. Five subjects were involved in two or more vehicle pursuit incidents for a total of 11 incidents. There was only one subject who was 17 years of age or younger. And of the incidents, there were seven, 64% were for reckless driving. and 36% or four were for a wanted felony crime. The pursuit characteristics, no real statistical change as far as the distance of these pursuits. We're talking 3.58 in 26 compared to 4.04 in 2025. The average pursuit speed, I'm sorry, I got that mixed up. The length of this chase four minutes and 35 seconds compared to four minutes and 45 seconds and 25. The distance decreased significantly, four miles to almost three and a half, and the pursuit speed decreased from roughly almost 86 miles an hour to 80 miles an hour in 26 compared to 25. Next slide, please. I talked about this also as part of our commitment to transparency with the community. We will begin to feature the following dashboards on our website. I have not talked to our Office of Management Analysis and Planning. As of yet, they're the ones that created this, but this is what we plan to feature on our website. Reason for the pursuit, pursuit outcome. And then if you go to the next slide, Bridget. I put it on too, I'm sorry. Vehicle pursuit injuries and crashes. And then there's a little box that's right below that in between pursuit crashes and injuries and what the current pursuit policy is. that will reflect fatalities, if there are any. So this, as I reported, for the first six months of this year, we haven't had any, as opposed to last year, which we had one incident at this time that resulted in two fatalities, and there was two passengers in the suspect vehicle. Next slide, please. Um, I did do, um, when I was putting this together commissioners, and I don't believe that this was included in what I had sent to you, but I did a, what if, um, because I was asked that public safety and health committee that if the FTC rule changes have been in place last year, would this have affected the six incidents that resulted in nine deaths? And what I had told them was in looking at, um, the six incidents, there were two that kind of stuck out to me in which, um, they attempted the officer attempted to pull the vehicle over for something else. And the reckless driving occurred after the fact. Um, so there were 2 that would have resulted that I believe wouldn't have happened if the policy would have been in place. So that's 3 deaths and taking a look at the 2nd, 1, though. I'm not quite sure. They were attempting to stop the vehicle for registration violation and the vehicle took off and wound up killing a 3rd party pedestrian and a bus stop. The reason why I say I'm not sure is because. even if the officers had activated their emergency lights and sirens and then turned them off and didn't engage, it was 21 seconds from the time that the pursuit was initiated to the time the crash happened. So even if we didn't chase or actively engage in a pursuit, that vehicle still traveling at the speed to get away, the accident may or may not have still happened. I can't say for sure. But I did look, I did, so I did, I took it one step further though, commissioners. I said, well, what if the, FPC changes were in place at the beginning of this year. And what would that look like for our pursuit numbers this year? And so I looked at that, specifically the reckless driving pursuits. So we're talking about 309 total pursuits. And I know, Executive Director, this is something that you and I have talked about, and we kind of know what that percentage looked like. If I were to ask you, what do you think the percentage of pursuits would be that would have happened as a result of, or wouldn't have happened as a result of the rule changes, what do you think it would be?

10 to 15%.

Higher. So when we looked at the numbers, and we had to look at each one individually, so we looked at 309 different reports, 158 of the pursuits, so 51% showed that the officers observed the reckless driving and attempted to stop the vehicle for the offense, so they observed it beforehand. 49%, 151, the pursuits showed that the officers attempted to stop the vehicle for another reason, and then the vehicle fled in a reckless manner after the fact. So with that, the number is significantly higher if the FPC rules, our interpretation of them anyway, show that the number is closer to 49%. It's actually kind of even if you look at it.

I don't think I understand. If the changes had been implemented last year, that out of the total number data of pursuits, you're saying that about 50% would not have happened because of the policy.

And it's not last year. I just want the beginning of this year for the data that I'm presenting this time.

So out of 397, slightly less than half.

309. I just looked at the reckless driving pursuits because that's really what the spirit and intent behind the policy change goes to is the reckless driving.

So it's 49% of that would not have been allowed.

That means that we attempted to stop the vehicle for, let's say a registration violation or equipment violation, um, any number of other things. Uh, and it took off then in a reckless manner, the way that I and, um, internal affairs read the changes, those pursuits would not have happened.

Interesting.

So it was just an exercise just to see what, um, what that policy change could look like because that would alter the landscape of our enforcement in the City of Milwaukee. I believe that's the end of my presentation. I do appreciate the time that everyone's given me to share six months' worth of data with you. We are still, I didn't put it in here, but the purchasing contracts for the pursued alternatives have gone through and we're We're actively working to get the Star Chase technology put on 16 of our vehicles, as well as the Haas digital alert on 80-plus of our vehicles. That will have the responder-to-responder alert capability, as well as being able to alert members of the community who download the app, either to their phone or to their infotainment system, if they're in the area of a vehicle, not just engaged in a pursuit, but just engaged in emergency vehicle operations. It's something that the Sheriff's Department has. something the fire department has. And that's something that I think is long overdue.

Do you have an advertising or social media campaign to get folks to download that?

We will have a very strategic and aggressive marketing campaign when that technology is, when we're ready to roll it out. That probably won't happen conservatively till the fall.

Okay. And do you have a way to track, so like when Star Chase, for example, is being used, Do you have a way that you can track which pursuits that's used?

Yes. Both technologies will be able to get data from both companies to kind of show exactly what you're getting at.

Okay. Yeah, I would love for that to be included once we're using it.

Yes. With that, though, I'm happy to answer any other questions you may have. To your question, Commissioner Wold-Patterson, it's hard to say what's driving the numbers down. I do believe that it is in part of our collaborative efforts with all of our system partners that are involved. But dare I say that I do need, we do, I would like to see another, I'd like to see some more data to say that we've kind of beginning to turn the corner on this along with what I shared about the satisfaction survey.

Okay, great. Thank you. Commissioners, any further comments or questions? I think I got to ask all mine.

Okay. Based on your answer, AC Sarno, how are you, are you all, do you have a goal for 2026? And how are you going to track that as you all are seeking more data? Oh, I mean. Mm-hmm.

I think we're kind of aligned. If you're talking about fatalities, we're aligned with Vision Zero. We don't want to see any fatalities. That's the overall goal. Absolutely. That's, I think, what we're all trying to get to.

But as we're trending down.

Yes, as we're trending down, yes. We want to see less crashes. We want to see these pursuits come to an end quicker. That's the reason why we're going towards some of the mitigation technologies that we're going to. We're looking at other ways, too. I know that for years, the pit maneuver isn't something that the Milwaukee Police Department does, nor channeling or boxing in. Other departments do that. Exploring what that might look like in the urban environment here, I can't say for sure that that's something we would go to. But the goal is to still maintain a level of enforcement, but bring these pursuits to an end a lot quicker and a lot more safer.

Okay. Are you saying that it's then difficult to have a goal to, for instance, another 15%, another 20%? Is it difficult to have that goal?

I don't think it's difficult to have the goal. I would just be a little reluctant to put a number on what that might look like yet. Okay.

Thank you. I have one last. Oh.

No, Commissioner Evans, I had a question in my notes. So it was a 50% decrease in non-pursuits. Is that accurate? Yes. And what do you attribute that to?

Well, I mean, I think when you look at our overall numbers, our overall numbers for pursuits are down considerably compared to where they were this time last year. So that's just the correlating effect as, you know, non-pursuits have gone down along with pursuits as well.

Okay, and I want to take you guys for the dashboard that transparency I think is something that the city of Milwaukee citizens that would love to see that transparency. So, thank you for adding that dashboard to the website when you do and then on the flip side, uh. Commissioner Ward-Patterson asked about the decrease, but I want to know why the increase, or what do you think the increase is over the last decade? Because that was a huge jump from like 2016 to current with the fatalities. And I'm just wondering, like, what do you think that increased? Because that was a huge increase over the last decade.

Are you talking about, which slide are you talking about? The

I said the increase, I think it was in chases. It was either in chases or the fatalities that there was a huge increase over the decade. And I'm just thinking, like, I'm just asking. Yeah. Yeah.

There's really not a huge increase in the number of fatalities, but with respect to chases, you'll see little red asterisks on the – I'm looking at slide number four. You'll see red asterisks by different years in time, and what that reflects is changes to the pursuit policy itself, either making it more restrictive or where you see the largest increases is where it makes it – where it became less restrictive and it opened it up for reckless driving and mobile drug dealing.

OK, that makes sense. And then how is how is the training like with the chase? How is that impacting the reduction in fatalities? I'm sure we're constantly renewing the different PD that officers take. How is the training impacting this or what does the training look like?

Yeah, we're just getting to. So we have to be recertified in training. Emergency vehicle operations every 2 years, so that's going to be happening again this fall. So we'll be out at state fair park on the track. I mean, you can only simulate so much in a static environment commissioner. You can't take away from what officers are going to experience. in a real urban environment. We do the best job we can with the conditions we have in the track and cones to the level that we can do it, but you'll never be able to simulate what they're going to experience in the real urban environment, nor are you going to be able to replicate the experience that some of the more experienced officers have had and who are now starting to retire as the department is starting to get younger and younger. So a lot of what you're talking about, you know, the education piece, you know, that happens from the supervisors at the district level and it's, uh, should be happening, uh, each and every day when they start their shifts, these constant reminders about safety and not only for themselves, but for the public.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you.

Oh, I was just going to ask if you can also, when you're looking at, um, Other technology data, can you also add the use of drones for vehicle pursuits?

Yeah, so that's something that we're actively looking into. It's just that the drone, we're hoping to be a test city for a drone that has the speed to keep up with these kinds of, yes. So that's what's kind of keeping us from kind of going down that path right now. But we're hopeful that we're going to be kind of a test city for this technology once it gets to the level that it needs to get to.

Okay. Is the plan for that to be out of the asset forfeiture funds in the future?

We have a couple of different funding sources that we're trying to develop the drone program to get it to where we want it, where the chief wants it to be. The way that it's reflected in other cities, the drone first responder program, this would be kind of a specialty program.

um aspect of the drone program as a whole a drone that's specifically used for um that can monitor vehicle pursuits and then the drone flights that are like tagged as pursuit related in the skydio dashboard right now are those responding after the fact

yes those are responding after the fact when we have a pursuit that ends and somebody flees and you need the drone to provide that extra officer safety layer that can go into the yards and kind of see where this individual might be hiding okay thank you okay impressed by the questions and the answers quick question is it is it the departments endeavor then to have the drones in every car no this uh the drone that i'm talking about would be uh it would be at a uh a fixed location uh and then it would be deployed to um to go to the area of the vehicle pursuit but because of the uh you know the speeds that i'm talking about here um again that technology is still in its infancy and again we're hoping to get it as a as part of a pilot program it's starting when I don't have a date on that commissioner okay thank you well thank you again director please proceed with the agenda

Next item is item 22, FPC 212641, communication from the Milwaukee Police Department relating to recent changes to MPD standard operating procedures and instructions. And we have five changes. SOP 113, crimes against children. SOP 400, off-duty, extra-duty, and special event employment. 460, use of force. 480, police. Military Courtesy and Honor Guard and Traffic Safety SOI. I would note that the changes to 460 did not originate from MPD, but they were part of the Common Council's motion to modify it to add the duty to intervene for state and local, I'm sorry, state, local and federal law enforcement.

Thank you. And I think we have someone from the department to provide an overview.

Yes, good evening, Inspector Sharonda Grant in the Admin Division. And so as it relates to Standard Operating Procedure 400, Off Duty, Extra Duty, and Special Event Employment, the recommendations that our agency is making is to add IFMLA to the list of leaves of absence where members must return to regular full duty status and work their next scheduled regular duty shift prior to working any special duty assignment. The second recommendation is changing the notification period for a member to cancel any extra duty or special event from 72 hours to five days to ensure that the Specialized Patrol Division can find a replacement in time for that event. And then the third recommendation to the standard operating procedure is updating if A member cancels after the five-day requirement that the six-week ban from working extra duty employment be waived if the member has a justifiable reason. Any questions regarding that? Thank you.

I think it's just grand that you still call these recommendations when you're talking to us.

Yeah.

Thank you for that criticism.

All right. Thank you. The next standard operating procedure is 480 military courtesy and honor guard. All right. The first is removing the required stand to attention when addressing a supervisory officer or upon entering an office of a commanding officer as members are still required to salute commanding officers without standing at attention. We'll also update the police rifle squad requirements for the honor guard for funerals as a sergeant is not always required to be there. We'll also remove the number of required ceremonial detail staffing for honor guard to provide them with a more flexible schedule when attending funerals. And then we'll also be changing the color of the piping of the honor guard and color guard uniform pants from gold to blue.

Next will be standard.

This is actually the standard operating instruction for the traffic safety unit. And the only updates to this standard operating instruction unit will be to remove the photo kite camera as it's no longer used by the Specialized Patrol Division and has not been used for several years. As it relates to standard operating procedure 113, crimes against children, the updates will be to follow the safe haven law in Wisconsin, which was recently updated, and this allows parents to relinquish a child now within 30 days instead of 72 hours, which was something of the past. In addition, this law also requires us to put out a QR code on the safe havens boxes and attempt to provide a brochure to the parents for relinquishing the child. Okay, and that's all that I have.

Okay. Can you remind us what the What portion of the use of force change is referenced here?

The definition to duty intervene. Okay. I'll just read it verbatim. In this section, the term another officer, which is in parentheses, or another law enforcement officer includes not only MPD officers, but additionally any law enforcement officers defined by Wisconsin state statute and any federal law enforcement officers defined in Wisconsin statute. And then that also goes on to say, under intervening actions, report their observations along with his or her own intervening actions to a supervisor. And this is the part that was added as soon as practicable after the occurrence of the use of force event.

Okay. Thank you. Any questions, comments?

I have a question. Oh, go for it. No, go ahead. You had your hand up first. Thank you. So you're saying that a mom can, I think you used the word relinquish, her child now within seven days versus 72 hours?

No, ma'am. Within 30 days instead of 72 hours.

30 days. Wow. So just dropping the child.

Yes. Okay. I'm going to read it. Okay, so the recommended update is that the safe haven law in Wisconsin, it was recently changed to allow parents to relinquish a child now within 30 days instead of 72 hours. Previously, it was 72 hours.

As state law?

Yes, as state law.

From birth, you're saying parents have the child and they can relinquish within a month?

Yes, ma'am.

Still taking the child to the hospital without any questions asked?

Hospital, police department, and there are some other locations inside of the state law. And that's Chapter 48.

So it's a change in state law and you've changed your standard operating instructions to comply with state law?

Yes, ma'am. And then are they turned... Does the child then go to protective services?

Yes, ma'am. That child is then turned over to protective services.

Okay. And again, no questions asked.

Correct.

Okay. Thank you.

Commissioner Fox? Oh, it was just a question about the function of the photo kite camera. Is that work just being done by drones now?

So it's a different type of work. um but our officers have not used it in several years and also the members that are part of the traffic safety unit none of those members have even been trained in it so this technology is extremely outdated okay thank you anything further okay thank you thank you for all the information thank you and uh director please proceed with the agenda yes the next item is item 23 fpc212642

Resolution relating to the classification report for the youth carpenter apprentice position for the Milwaukee Fire Department. And I believe for this item, we have DER Staffing Services Manager Andrea Knickerbocker with us.

Good evening. Yes, this is Andrea Knickerbocker. There's going to be three reports. This report is for the creation in the fire department of a youth carpenter apprentice. You may be aware that this would be the second type of youth apprentice, the previous being a fleet apprentice. And just to summarize, these students are students in high school, either at their junior or senior level, and that is in collaboration with the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development Youth Apprentice Program. And just as an aside, I want to say that these are popping up in many of the city departments, and it's a very, very positive trend. We have them in addition to the fleet apprentice that the fire has, the construction labor interns, we have apprentices in the waterworks, we have arborist youth apprentices, as well as of course, the police aid and fire cadets.

Very good. So it's an expansion on existing programs to cover another niche.

Is that correct? Yes.

All right. Questions? I think I don't see any hands up. Okay. Do we need action? Yes. A motion. Madam Chair, move approval. Second. Any discussion? I'll take a voice vote on this. All in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. Director, please proceed with the agenda.

Item 24, FPC 212643, resolution relating to the classification study for new and changed positions for the Milwaukee Police Department and the Department of Emergency Communications.

Yes, thank you. For the police department, there's a recommendation of a classification for a budget manager dash police. This is a new position in the, I believe, 26 budget, and that would be in pay range 1LX. also repurposing the current 20 positions of police services specialists to instead go to the title of police services specialist investigator. And I believe that's in response to the need for additional investigators related to new hires as well as investigations. And then the third is a reclassification of a current accounting coordinator one to an accounting coordinator two based on higher level responsibilities. In the Department of Employee Relations, the recommendation is to take one vacant position of an administrative support specialist instead to have an administrative specialist senior, which is a higher level, and will provide more support to leadership in the Department of Emergency Communications.

Commissioners, any questions, comments? I think this is, you have a big portfolio at DER and you keep providing us with excellent reports, updating us. Thank you.

Thank you.

We have to take a motion on this matter.

Move for approval.

Second. Any discussion? I'll take a voice vote. All in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. Director, please proceed with the agenda.

Item 25, FPC 212644, resolution relating to the job evaluation report for the crime scene analyst 1, 2, and 3 positions and the crime and intelligence manager position within the Milwaukee Police Department to evaluate minimum rates and FLSA designation.

Yes. For the crime and intelligence manager, pay range is actually recommended to be the same as well as the minimum recruitment rate. But yes, this is going to change the position from an FLSA exempt to an FLSA non-exempt, thereby allowing the position based on the number of hours and amount of work to receive overtime. And then also for the series of crime analyst, one, two, and three. So the highest level is at the three, and you can underfill. The pay ranges are recommended to be the same, but to assist with recruitment, there are higher recruitment rates recommended for each of those titles.

Okay. This is...

I have one other comment to just let you know that that massive report or two that came to you over the last couple of meetings did go through and successfully get approved at finance and the council. And because of the implementation of workday toward the end of this year, we will not be doing classification reports until much later in the year. Doesn't mean we're not working on them. but we can't take them forward because of the blackout. She won't see us for a while.

Okay. Commissioners, any questions, comments? Yes, not.

Move for approval.

Second. Any further discussion? I'll take a voice vote on this matter. All in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye. Any...

Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. Director, please proceed with the agenda.

Yes. Item 26, FPC 212645, communication from the Executive Director relating to Fire and Police Commission staffing and operations. Given the number of files in the hour, I will stand on my written report, which is in the file, but I'm happy to answer questions.

I don't have any questions, Commissioners. I guess your writing is crystal clear.

Off the hook today.

Yeah.

All right. I will now read the items under the Department of Emergency Communications, starting with 27, FPC 212646, resolution relating to the promotion of Andrew Cochran to the Emergency Communications Manager position.

Do any commissioners have any questions regarding this matter?

I think what we have is a letter from director Bruno. You know. Well, you know. Advising as to why the.

History is for this promotion. Um. Okay, any questions comments.

I'll take a motion.

So move.

Thank you. As this is a promotion, I'll take a roll call vote in alphabetical order commissioner burgos. Commissioner evans. Commissioner from time commissioner snyder commissioner world patterson. And the chair votes aye. Motion carries. Director, please proceed.

Item 28, FPC 212647, resolution relating to the promotions of Jason Powell, Matthew Munson, Kari Rising, Anja Grejcic, and Kate Hansen to the emergency communications officer for position.

Okay, apparently this is contingent upon the individual's successful completion of all training requirements, which is rather vague, but we don't have the director available to give us more information.

I'm not sure if.

Is the deputy director still available?

I believe she is.

She is online, Dr. Okay. Is there anything you would like to offer in regard to this item?

These are UCTs who have completed their classroom training to be law enforcement dispatchers, but several of them are still doing on the job training. So they have not all fully completed their classroom and on the job training.

but we don't know who's who from the list, do we? Is there a reason why they would be presented to us for promotion when they have not fully succeeded in their training requirements? Are we a little premature on some of these folks?

Potentially. I don't know if our HR director, Anna Zizzo, can speak to that.

Sure, I can chime in. This is Anna Zizzo. I'm the HR administrator with the Department of Emergency Communications. As individuals are anticipated this week to complete their on-the-job training and given the timing of this meeting and the August hiatus, since it was so close um we did move this forward obviously if there was anyone who did not successfully meet those we will be at the next meeting in september you know withdrawing those names or name we don't anticipate that but if that would happen we would do that okay um any questions comments

Madam Chair, move for approval.

Second.

All right, thank you. We will take... Are we starting a precedence by voting before a person has finished the requirements for, you know, to come before us? Is this starting a precedence? Are we opening a can of worms? Three days, a week, you know, then next it's, oh, just a little bit.

i think it's premature point taken uh director do you think there's a precedent setting uh issue here i i don't think there's any any anything in the sense that it's it binds the commission to do anything it doesn't want to do uh you're effectively you are the one that would set and maintain the precedent. And if there's different circumstances, if it's, you know, a week or two, you could say that's just too much. Or if it's, you know, not pending the August recess, that's a different circumstance. So it's really up to the commission. And I don't think this boxes you in in the future.

I, I, I see your point and I think it makes us cautious because we don't want to have to reverse a decision after the fact. It's not good for the employee morale. It's certainly not good for our agendas. But I think that they presented it as being a special circumstance in that. Well, let me ask this from The department are the persons who have not yet completed training as you state, um, is there a reason or is it just a question of man hours to get it all done?

This is the administrator. It's just a matter of timing of when our, um, on the job training is ending.

Okay, but but it's been completed for some of these candidates and not for others.

Or is it true for all of them?

I don't have that information with me at this time.

Okay.

And what will happen when they complete everything and for those two weeks have to wait until we return? What will happen to the candidates?

With regards to the two weeks that you're speaking of, is that if somebody didn't make it, is that what you're inquiring about?

No, they passed successfully, but they would have to wait until September.

Yes, what would happen is that they would not be placed in that job title. Uh, they would continue to receive a certain percentage of pay for continuing in training, but they would not be up to the full. Salary amount that they could achieve if they were put into the echo for position.

Okay, well, madam chair question for me. Um, so then you would not be able to utilize them. Is that accurate?

Not in that full capacity. No. They would need additional people to monitor and mentor and watch over what they're doing.

Thank you.

I will, I will go with the team, but I still think that we're setting a precedence.

Any other discussion? Any other opinions?

Okay.

You're not required to vote with the team. You're required to vote according to how you perceive the best interest of the city to be served.

I understand that.

Okay. All right. I know that we do tend to all agree on most things, but we don't have to. So the matter's been moved and seconded. Are there any other, is there any other discussion? Then I will take a roll call vote. Commissioner Burgos? Aye. Commissioner Evans?

Aye.

Commissioner Fung? Aye. Commissioner Schneider?

Aye.

Commissioner World-Patterson? Aye. Chair votes aye. The motion carries. Director, please proceed with the agenda.

Item 29, FPC 212648, resolution relating to the promotions of Kimberly Pointer, Taria Johnson, Lena Ramirez, Bonnie Bozeman, Elizabeth House, Kaylin Jackson, Marjorie Kahn, Justice Platt, Nicole Spewer, and Yvonne Williams to the Emergency Communications Officer 2 position.

Okay, so... As in the other one, the letter from the director indicates that once training is successfully completed, they will be fully prepared. So we seem to have the same timing issue on these as the others. Is that correct, department?

This is Anna Zizzo, HR administrator. Yes, that's correct.

Any questions from the commissioners? Is there a motion on this matter?

Move approval. Second.

Any discussion? I'll take a roll call vote. Commissioner Burgos. Aye. Commissioner Evans.

Aye.

Commissioner Fung. Aye. Commissioner Snyder.

Aye.

Commissioner World-Patterson.

I'm abstaining.

and the chair votes aye motion carries director please proceed with the agenda item 30 fpc 212649 resolution relating to the reappointment request to the business intelligence analyst position are there any questions uh regarding this item or on 30.

uh trying to open up the letter uh so the department is is in favor of the reappointment any questions of the representatives from the department on this matter okay um I guess I'm gone.

I'm a little confused. Request for reinstatement. Has he? He has severed his employment and he's asking you to come back. Is that what this is?

Yes, it's technically a reappointment, not a reinstatement.

Yeah, yeah, that's what threw me. And are we within our time limits?

Yes.

OK. All right. Any other questions? Any questions? I'll take a motion.

Madam Chair, move for approval. Second.

Second. Okay. Great. Then I take a voice vote. All in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. Director, please proceed with the agenda.

We previously addressed items 31 and 32. So moving to item 33. fpc 212650 resolution relating to the appointment to the emergency communications supervisor position i believe given the decision on item 31 this item would be removed ah yes it is moved therefore uh we would remove to place on file move to put it on file place it on file by unanimous consent yes

We will place it on file by unanimous consent. Okay. Director, please proceed.

Item 34, FPC 212651, resolution relating to the appointment to the emergency communications records analyst senior position.

There are

is one individual involved yes is this a new this is not a promotion this is a new appointment this is this is relate this is similar to the other one but it's not

I believe this is the gentleman who chose to voluntarily demote.

Oh, did that?

Or not appeal.

Oh, okay. Wait, we're on 34? Yes.

There's nothing about demotion in this.

Well, he did not request a meeting.

So the demotion takes effect.

Oh, I see. I see. So he is accepting the demotion. He's not challenging it. And therefore, this appoints him to the alternative position. Yes. Okay. Any questions? I can take a motion.

So move.

Second. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. Director, please proceed.

And then item 35, FPC 212652, resolution relating to the appointment to the emergency communications operations analyst senior position. Again, I believe this item would also become moot.

Okay, then by unanimous consent, we will place it on file. Director, please proceed.

I'll now read the items under the fire department, starting with item 36, FPC 212653, resolution relating to the appointments to the firefighter position, 49 appointments. I would note that it's 49 and not 50 because there is one person who's being reinstated who had a medical issue in the prior class and was held over. Sort of like a workman's comp equivalent. So it is effectively 50.

Okay well I think this is good news. This is the result of a competitive testing yes. Any commissioners have any questions. We'll take a up motion of approval taken. Take a voice vote all those in favor please signify by saying aye aye aye aye aye Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. Director, please proceed with the agenda.

All right. Hang in there, everybody. I hear some tired eyes. We're almost there. Item 37, FPC 212654, resolution relating to the contingent appointments to the firefighter position, six contingent appointments.

Now, these are the backups?

Yes.

Okay. Any questions?

Madam Chair, move for approval. Second.

Okay, good. All right, I will take a voice vote. All in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. Director, please proceed with the agenda.

I am 38, FPC 212655, resolution relating to the appointments to the fire cadet position, 28 appointments. Okay.

And again, this is a matter of competitive testing. Yes. Any commissioners have any questions? Is there a motion?

So moved.

Second.

Okay, great. I'll take a voice vote. All in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. Director, please proceed with the agenda.

Item 39, FPC 212656, resolution relating to the contingent appointments to the fire cadet position, 16 contingent appointments.

And again, this is kind of the backup group that can fill in. Yes. Any questions? I'll take a motion.

So moved. Second.

Great. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. Director, please proceed with the agenda.

Moving to the police department, item 40, FPC 212657, resolution relating to the promotion of Lucas Scaland to the crime analyst three position.

And this is a civilian position? Yes.

Yes.

and his commanding officer is recommending his promotion, according to the letter from the chief. Okay. Are there any questions? Do we have a motion?

So moved. Second.

Second. Great. Any discussion? I'll take a roll call vote in alphabetical order. Commissioner Burgos?

Aye.

Commissioner Evans?

Aye.

Commissioner Fung. Aye. Commissioner Snyder.

Aye.

Commissioner Royal Patterson. Aye. And the chair votes aye. Motion carries. Director, please proceed.

Almost there. Yes. The last item is item 41, FPC 212658, resolution relating to the probation extension of a police officer. And I thought we had a request to be heard. And is he still here?

chuck all right i guess he uh abandoned ship yeah okay well we have uh uh rationale stated in the letter

um speaking to the mic please oh yeah i'm sorry please come forward uh assistant chief sarno i was just um i and inspector grant were just um

going to remain here in the event that you did speak with him in closed session and you needed me to elaborate on any of the bullet points that our Human Resource Division provided you as to the reason why the work location was extending, wanted to extend his probation. But since that member is not here, I don't feel the need to speak on it. We stand by the request to extend the probation. Thank you.

Thank you. Any question. I don't care. So more so who. Great. So they have to voice vote okay. All those in favor please signify by saying aye aye aye aye any post any abstentions motion carries. Director, please proceed.

That concludes the agenda, Madam Chair.