Zoning Hearing Board - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, August 5, 2025

About this meeting

Government Body
Zoning Hearing Board
Meeting Type
Zoning Hearing Board
Location
Millcreek, PA
Meeting Date
August 5, 2025

Transcript

82 sections (from 358 segments)

1:49 – 2:250

Evening. Better move this a little bit here, I guess, for now. Welcome to the Milk Township Municipal Building and Monthly Planning Commission meeting. This time, I call the meeting of August 5th, 2025 to order. I'll please rise and join us for the pledge of allegiance. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you. If you haven't already done it, please sign the uh attendance sheet for the record on the round table in the back before we begin. No, I'm sorry. Uh, next I'd like to introduce the members of the planning commission, our support staff. Starting on my far left over here is uh Ray Reid. Next to him is Doug Prozan. On my right is is uh Tony Sitter. Next to him here is Pete Cabaya. in the back. And on the right side is Julie Majio, the assistant zoning and development officer, and Matt Puzz, the zoning and development officer. And on my left in the back is Matt Waldinger, the director of planning and development. Jennifer Hernias, the township council, and I am Jean Strom, the chairman of the planning commission. Uh before we begin, I'll call for a motion to accept the minutes of last month's meeting as written.

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Second. All in favor?

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Anyone opposed? Ber Township Planning Commission is a recommending body. It hears testimony, asks and answers questions, deliberates, and passes our recommendations on to the supervisors who make the final decisions on issues brought before us. The subdivision and/or land developments along with the conditional use request application discussed tonight, if acted on by the planning commission, will be considered by the township supervisors at their regular meeting to be held on Tuesday, August 26th, 2025 at 4:30 p.m. in this room here. First item on the agenda tonight is the Eerie Shores property. It's a minor subdivision plan to show the creation of a 89 acre lot A1 or 1A and the creation of a 1.47 acre lot, lot 1B from uh 2200 Colonial Avenue along the west line of Colonial Avenue north of West 26th Street, track 309 and the Westgore tract. Someone here to represent that sir, please come up to the podium and give us your name. name and address.

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All righty. My name is uh Jake Slasher with David Lair Associates. We are representing uh Eerie Shores Properties and the sole purpose is to combine or I'm sorry to split up the parcel to have each building on its own parcel. Um I don't I don't know if you guys have any questions. Seems pretty cut and dry. I'm sorry. Jake Slasher.

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Okay. What about this here? We have to modify it. It's not I believe it's not on the plan. Yeah. For for both uh for both parcels letter for modification. Yeah. Okay. Anybody have any questions for him? Okay. Thank you, sir. I think I'm up here for the next two. Okay. The uh next one is Mr. Chair. Yes, sir. We should ask if anybody else has any comments before I apologize. Anyone in the audience have anything want to talk about this at all? This first item.

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Okay. Uh the next item on the agenda is uh 5942 Peach Street. It's a land development plan to show a construction of a 7,225 foot addition with associated storm water management facilities in parking at 5942 Peach Street located the southwest intersection of Peach and Interchange Road in track 347. Sir,

6:29 – 7:060

again, my name is Jake Slasher with David Leair Associates. Uh this is to do a building addition for I believe as of now three new tenants. We have those dashed uh red lines on there to indicate each tenant space. It just has the the parking in the east and then there's a loading in the on the west with its uh with its storm water in the west as well. Anybody have any questions or anything?

7:06 – 7:470

Yeah, there's quite a few things that we need in addition to uh on here and it's uh I'll just run through them kind of quick. I think you're aware mic is not on but it is now. Um we need the acres to be developed is missing on the applica. Are you aware of all these? Yeah, I got an email of those. Yes. Okay. In the addition to the cross property crosses a property line, the two lots will need to be combined. Uh the Mil Creek index numbers are incorrect. And then the square footage of the existing building is missing and needs to be added. I can give you this copy, but if you're aware of all I have an email of that. Yeah.

7:46 – 8:120

Uh and there's a few more small things on there. Uh sidewalks are required. Sidewalks are required and are not showed on the plan. You may seek a sidewalk deferral. The site of the nearest fire hydrant uh with distance is missing and the identity of the adjacent property owner is missing. Yep. Okay, we have it. We're good. Yep. And we also got comments back from uh GPI as well. Okay. So,

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uh we we could do that. I I don't have any plans of doing that now. But if that's not it has not we don't see that as a high volume drive. I believe so. Yeah.

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Not at this time. No. What what we had a problem with is they wanted to develop that area as a separate retail business and the neighbors are up in arms about increased traffic. But if that's just for loading and unloading, it should not be a problem. I'd almost think they'd have to go down. So, what we we would like to see I would think they would go either a right on Spire, then a left and immediate left on Marman if they wanted to get on I would I would imagine they'd want to get right back on Interchange Street as quickly as possible. Yes. Uh we might uh put in a recommendation that we would like to see a right turn only on on Aspire.

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Yeah. Okay. Also trucks coming in

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rightonsibility. Okay. Okay.

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Anything else? Anybody else? Anything else from me or from the audience on this sign? Do you want me to Thank Okay. Uh, if it's in the public right away, it would be the township's responsibility. If it's on private property, that's the developer's responsibility.

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The right turn sign coming out of the place would be the developer responsibility. Correct. The other one would be the township. If there if there was going to be an additional street traffic signs. Yes. If I may though, um if the commission feels strongly about um the township placing a sign like that, I think including it as part of your recommendation would go a long way as a message to the supervisors. Okay. Okay. No one else has anything about this. Okay. Thank you, sir. The third item on the agenda. Yeah. Yep. I wrote them down. Yep.

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But you want a right turn only on the west side for the ingress and egress. And if possible, I guess it'd be more of a township uh area of putting a a sign in the rightway, but we're aware of that. Next item CDC for 25 expansion. So land development plan show construction,00 road located southwest.

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All right. Again, Jake Slasher with David Leair Associates. We're looking at a uh a proposed uh parking addition on the southeast side of the building there. And uh there's a little dash line on the west side. Right now they're looking at just putting parking on the east side of the parking lot and then in a proposed future asphalt parking lot on the left. And we have the uh adequate storm water for that as well.

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Okay. Anything for him? Uh same thing we're going to need on here if I'm right. The uh square footage of the existing building is missing. It needs to be added. Sidewalks are required and not shown on the plan. And the dimensions of the nearest fire hydrant and barriers to the nearest 1 half minute are missing from the property line. Okay. Okay.

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Anyone else say anything about this? Hi, my name is Lisa Lockbomb. I live at 4722 West 38th Street, directly right across the street from the school. Um, I think the school's fabulous. It's great. Um, but even coming here this evening, the traffic is so backed up at the stop sign, you cannot um you can't go through the four-way stop sign. I would like to know, has there been any accidents that have occurred at that corner and the recent like since last year since they added on to the addition of the parking lot? has their I don't know if we can research that with Mil Creek police. Um but the traffic is so bad if you are turning west on 38 Street, right across the street from the school. The entrance way to the school is right there at the corner and you literally have to stop. And I'm shocked that there hasn't been any accidents. So my concern is the back the back up of traffic in that area,

14:46 – 15:260

especially with young drivers. Young drivers. I mean literally I was the first car at the stop sign and a woman was waiting to turn in and you cannot turn at the stop sign at all. You have to wait until that car actually enters the parking lot. Mr. Chair, if I may, um, we don't have any accident, uh, data for that, but we could get that from the police department and could provide that to the supervisors before they vote on the land development plan.

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Thank you. The next item is for Burger King. It's a land development plan to show ventilation existing building constru 3,582 heating and drinking establishment storm water management facilities and parking at 2872 West 26 Street located the northeast intersection of Peninsula Drive and West 26 Street in 17. Uh, good evening. Mike Sanford, 4721 Atlantic Avenue. And I prepared the land development plan for this. Uh, basically Burger King is at the location now. They would like to raise the store and rebuild on the same location. So, we did look at various options of uh how the new building could fit on, it's a new prototype, how it could fit on the site. And um, we looked at different different options trying to shift it. It did shift a little bit north and west of where it is currently. And it shifted west primarily because they want to accommodate a double drive-thru. Right now, the location only has one drive-through lane and no bypass lane. And so, they're trying to get two drive-throughs to increase their queue length and then also have a bypass lane. Uh the other thing is uh the existing driveways to the site, one from 26th Street and one from Peninsula will remain as is. Uh the sidewalk is already existing along all the frontage and that'll remain. Uh we did go to zoning hearing board a few days ago and received a variance to relocate the non-conforming flag pole. It's too tall and so that we did receive a variance to relocate that to a we'd like to move it from where it is just about 20 feet west. So it'll be in an landscape island. And then also uh right

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now the site essentially has almost no green space. It's all concrete. And if you look at the plan, uh there's going to be quite a bit of landscaping around the perimeter to bring it into compliance with the ordinance and then also we'll also have endcap islands as well. So we're going to establish green spaces and then have the appropriate trees and shrubs uh for that. Other than the zoning hearing board variance we received the other day, we're not aware of any other variances or modifications needed. When can we have our first burger there soon? Yes.

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They did not. Uh, currently it's 75 ft tall. So therefore, it's non-conforming and so it's a non-conforming structure. So, we requested to relocate a non-conforming structure and they agreed with that. So, it will be relocated, but it'll still remain 75 ft tall. Any other questions?

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Thanks. Anyone else care to speak? Okay. The last item on the agenda tonight is for Milker Township School District for property located at 901 West 54th Street and 101 West 54th Street to install new electronic sign uh messaging centers in the R1 single family residential district. Someone here to speak at that. Sir,

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good evening. Uh, my name is John Finn. I'm with HHS SDR Architects Engineers. I'm also here with Mr. Aaron Oul with the school district. And we are here to request the non or excuse me, um, excuse me, the conditional use of the two uh, separate electronic messaging signs to be placed at both the JS Wilson and Chestnut Hill elementary schools. These signs have been designed to match the standard of the electronic signs that are currently erected outside of McDow Senior and McDow Intermediate here nearby, which those are also in an R1 zoned area. And there are they're designed and they are going to operate in the same fashion that those signs are going to. Uh our proposed sign is a Dacttronics Galaxy GS6. It's the same type of sign that they have in front of those two schools, the uh intermediate and senior high schools. and they will be fully controlled by the district and programmed to meet the requirements of the zoning ordinance. Uh the existing signage and messages will appear in the same way that they are there right now. There will not be any animations or audio or uh any scrolling messages or the spelling effects uh flashing lights and etc. Those things will be all u eliminated. It will just switch from oneformational uh piece to the next at the rate that is specified within the zoning ordinance. Uh durations for the messages will also be set to match the zoning ordinance of a minimum of 8 seconds. And then the lighting levels for this particular sign do match the daylighting requirements. Uh I believe the zoning ordinance is 5,000 nits. Uh the capability of the sign, it goes up to 12,000 with multiple dimming levels down during for that dust to dawn or excuse me, dust to uh shut off time uh that's required within the zoning ordinance. And then also on top of that, the school district does plan to shut those down uh at the hours required by the zoning ordinance. Uh we were here last week uh for the variance

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that was required because they are we had one sign uh replacing the one at Chestnut Hill. So that was allowed to be replaced, but we are just um eight square feet I believe over these uh requirement and the zoning variance was granted last week. So any questions gentlemen at all? We looked it up. Okay,

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we're good.

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Thank you, John. What is What is it? 5,000 nits would be equivalent to an LCD screen TV, big screen TV. The amount of light that it puts off exceed Did you see it? Did you see it in the drawing? Do you have any uh

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the sign design signs designed yet?

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As far Well, as far as the what it's going to look like, I could show you a couple of different things here this evening. Let me set this down. So very plainly and I believe do you have 8 and 1 half by 11 copies of this? So the sign itself is a masonry base along the bottom here. So this will be a brick with a stone cap. Then the sign the electronic component of the sign sits on top of the masonry base. Okay. Then there will be a marquee banner on the top. the school at that location. Let me dig this out product. Now, this this is pretty generic. It's not exactly like it's going to be. If there was something that you would want to want to see, we could probably get a rendering put together for you of that uh from the manufacturer. But this is this is a single Okay, see there is Panel on this program.

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So these thick No signage. There will be no picture. Anything else for him?

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Nope. Thank you. Anyone else in the audience here to speak about this? That is the last item on the agenda for tonight. Anybody need to take a break or anything here? No. Okay. We're going to go into our discussion amongst ourselves and and uh you want to stay and listen to that or

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get your results tonight around. All right. First item on the agenda again is for Eerie Shores Properties. Uh it's a minor subdivision plan to show the creation of a 89 acre lot 1A and the creation of a 1.47 47 acre lot 1B from 2200 Colonial Avenue along the west line of Colonial Avenue north of West Street and track 309 and the West Gore track. I'd like to make a motion to approve as long as they modify the ratio on the

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I second. Okay. Any further discussion? All in favor? I I. Anyone opposed? No.

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All right. The second item is for 5920. Oh, sorry. 5942 Peach Streets land development plan. show the construction of a 7,225 square foot addition with associated storm water management facilities and parking 15942 Peach located in the southwest intersection of Peach and Interchange Road and track 347. There a motion. I would make the same motion again to uh accept it the plan as long as they address the seven issues that we have on the land development which we have.

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Okay. What about the uh right turn only? Oh yes. And of course uh we'd like to see a right turn only coming on to Spires Road. Was that drive? And then uh we would also like to see the township place a sign uh Heading south on Spire, saying no truck traffic, Matt, beyond that driveway. Beyond that driveway. Does that suffice, Matt? Okay. Oh, I'll second it. You any further discussion on? All in favor? I.

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Anyone opposed? Very good. Thank you. The next item of CDC parking 2025 parking expansion and land development plan to show the construction of 7700 square foot parking edition with associated storm water management facilities at 3814 Asbury Road located at the southwest intersection of Asbury Road and West 38 track 313. Uh, I will again make a motion to approve as long as we address the square footage of the sidewalk and the dimensions of the nearest fire

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hydrant. Further west or further west? It would have to be west to be west. Know if you can really do that with the uh way the topography there's a uh ditch a drainage ditch right there. Am I correct? Correct.

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There's a parking lot behind it anyways too. Right. the highways around the back, but say there's no way to get from to uh like you have a south side where your driveway comes into the front. You can you can access the property from um the east side off of Asbury Road. There's there's a driveway down here as well, so people could come down and in here. You don't need to come across and go down like this.

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I mean, you could request a better traffic flow.

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Just Yeah. request that they change the traffic flow. It's either that or another driveway on the north side from the front parking lot. No, there is one. There is one. There is one. That's the one that the school. That's why we No, no, no. Going going going to the parking lot behind the school from that parking area to the for the to the back parking area driveway and then eliminate that one on the corner. I see.

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I know across here and tie into this one interception. It's awful. No, you can't do it in a condition. because it takes a little more investigation.

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So, it would make you have one entrance on off of 38th Street and one entrance off of Asbury Road to the property and both parking lots would be essentially tied together on both sides of the school. Would it be appropriate to table this? Let give them a chance to investigate that. I don't know that bus has come, but if buses come if you have people coming in this way.

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I don't. Can we shove this off to the supervisors and have them consider the traffic flow and actually have the ingress always be on the Asberry side and even the that's not going to help them. Yeah, the west entrance on further the entrance further west which exists already which exists already and I don't know if you can go through this. You can get here and you get here.

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So, you'd want to kind of parallel to 38 street. Well, he wants to take a road over here. Wrap this around the building. You can request that. I mean, request a reevaluation of that.

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Did you want to say something?

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Please come up. I'm Reena Irwin. I'm the CEO of Child Development Centers. And as we were talking, um, we could move the entrance to the to Asbury Road and when you go in, you could make a left to the new and a right to the existing. We'd have to redo the lines and then there would only be a right turn could be off onto 38th at the stop sign so that no more families are at that stop sign making a left. We don't know of any staff or parents who have been in an accident, but it is congested. Um the back area is where school buses drop off. If we redesign that to go the other way, children will get dropped off on the wrong side of the school. And these kids are three and four year olds. It would be very dangerous to do that. But if we do make the only if we do make the entrance on Asbury.

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So you're in here. Okay. The other direction because it's a new parking lot. So you could go this way or this way and that would stop that lefthand turn right there at the parking lot. That makes sense. Just making essence a oneway road to get to get out. But you would you would still be able to go uh north or south. Correct. Okay. So you just come in off of Asbury, go north or south. Go this way for the new Yeah. This way for the existing. Change the lines. Yes.

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And then back here we come out this way to exit now. But the way the buses come in, the buses come in down here and we go this way. So that the exit of the bus is right at the door and children don't in front of their parents' cars or the school bus. Existing exit next to Asbury would be eliminated. It would be an exit only. Be able to get out. It'd be an exit only. Exit only.

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Yeah. We would not be able to get out if we eliminated that. Nobody would be able to get out of the parking lot. Her concern is that somebody exiting and she's turning. Well, I so I think what which you could correct me, but I believe that the problem is turning in there, not coming out of there because when you turn on 38th right there, the entrance right now is like 5T, the existing one that goes this way. So now if we moved the entrance just to be over here, then people would only come out and they'd have to go which go right anyway. Nobody, very few people live. Yes.

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Towards this direction. So now they be exiting to the right here and they exiting to the right there. That works. That's that's better.

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I'd like her to comment on because she obviously drives that all the time. So if we come in here and go left or right, the lines are the wrong way. Just flip the lines and then people will come out and they'll turn right to exit. Nobody will be coming in this way anymore. So it won't be backed up there. And then the buses the buses do this and parents and everybody would go right. So there wouldn't be somebody stopping here any longer. and make that stop signed.

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Adding more parking spots. That means that there's more people, more kids, more cars coming. Yeah. No more kids, no more children, more congestion. No, they because this new parking lot, they come out down here on the south side of nobody would be going out here. So, as this new parking lot is going this way, they'll use this existing exit. They wouldn't be using which then would have cars coming out dirty arms of but that's down here by as by the trail whatever it is and that would that would eliminate that congestion right there

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I I I see what you're saying but again if you're adding you're adding more vehicles I mean it's so congestion so there the problem is there is not enough parking right now the back parking lot just for the buses. No, the buses are not parked there. All of our buses Okay. I mean, just they're the only ones that use that back area. Parents, we have a car line similar to Our Lady of Peace to keep the traffic moving. So, the buses have their time to drop off and parents have their time to drop off on the back side.

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Correct. in the morning when they drop off. Weren't you guys putting up cones to direct people to go in or go? Maybe it was an event that you guys were having. Well, we have we have to split up our event for parents to be individual classrooms, but those are typically um are there lots to the north as you pull in here? Are these mainly correct? or people. Most staff park here. Some parents drop off infants and toddlers. Okay. That are not on a bus. Um and then they would have to rest here.

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Correct. Okay. But it would be what we're trying to do is lessen the amount of traffic. shoot out the other way which is less than everybody. But that's where they pick up the children. Isn't that where they pick up the kids? Well, you know what I'm talking about. Out this door. But that's already happening. That's nothing new. That's that's this would lessen Well, this would eliminate anybody turning left into the parking lot.

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And there are no more children in the building. The building is the size of the building. One more suggest

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well the requirement of the trees and all that is this thing right there. I don't think that this is like a pondish thing. That's whatever water retention. Oh, so you can't drive through this area.

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Doug, we think there's water retention in that green area though, so we can't touch it at all. Okay. Do we you think it is water retention right there? Right. Do we know? Does anybody know? It's a drainage. Yeah, it is. Trees and all that stuff. Okay. To the west. Yeah, there's a road next to the road. Yeah. South of 38. It's wide though, right?

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Did you you see what we're trying to do here? We're trying to take the traffic away from the stop sign. So, could you come up here for a second? park is is you're going to tell your parents that instead of sitting on the road with their flashers on waiting to come into the line, they're going to have to pull in and park and get out of their car to pick their children up because that's the problem. They're pulling and parking on the street and they're they're clogging up traffic like a like a drop off line. So, you're going to tell your parents there's no more standing on the street. You have to pull in park. That's the purpose of the parking lot. Correct.

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Eliminating some of because the drop off line is what's backing up the traffic and cause causing the clogging of the intersection. So, if you're saying we're putting this parking lot in to tell our parents, we're not having a drop off line. You need to pull in and park and get out of your car and drop your kid off. That would eliminate the backup of the traffic on the road. And what's the purpose of putting in the parking lot? It's not for them. Then how is that going to solve the problem? What's what is the purpose of the parking lot then? Because it's always sometimes folks are down on the basketball court.

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You could also make that parking lot. So nothing that you're doing right here then is going to eliminate the traffic problem. Well, it's not going to eliminate the number of children in the building. And it's not going to eliminate the traffic problem.

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Well, no. What it what it could do is is uh do something different and not use that entrance right next to the intersection so often. I can see where that could be a problem. If they if you require everybody to come into the parking lot off of Asbury Road, that would eliminate what we're talking about here with somebody trying to turn left into the front parking lot and blocking up traffic behind them so nobody moves. You know, I can see that happening. So, if you can require the people to come into the off the Asbury Road entrance,

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that should help it out. I guess my my suggestion would be to angle the park the other way. Put do not enter signs on the the egress point on as my suggestion would be to angle the park the other way. Put do not enter signs on here. Exactly. People are more This is the signs and just angle parking. And then really when you come in here, all you're adding is whatever spots these are would be the ones exiting 38. The rest will be coming here. It's going to be less people. What about

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I don't think we have enough Is there a possibility of us?

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That's a drainage area. They said along here. You could run it through that parking area, but you'd lose park nine parking spaces. No, just not. Is it Is it every day the same people? Yes. This is a school. The kids come by. It's It's the same people dropping off kids and teachers and so on. Okay.

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No entrance, not an answer. That would work probably too. I I think that would be I don't I don't see a way you can solve the issue without completely eliminating the exit. But you kind of limit it because this angle parking here has to be angled one way or another. So either you're having egress or ingress or egress. It's got to be one of the two if you keep the the entrance there exit. I would I would think the best way to do it would be to have this at exit. You can even put a right turn only facing come here. Yes. do not enter on 38. Yes. I think that would be

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Yeah. Somebody wants to go the other way, you go around the back of the building and and and as it stifles people getting out on 38th Street, they're going to use that less and less

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and go in another direction. It's probably the best we can do at this standpoint. You know what I mean? It's going to people are going to be waiting there forever to get out and they're going to have a tendency not to use that and to come out the other way because that's going to be a problem for them. But it's safer for us to have it out only. Change the uh change the angle of the parking spaces and have it an exit only, no entrance in there. And it'll it'll alleviate your problem to a point, but it's not going to eliminate it. So, they're going to all have to come in They would have to come in either through the middle or the end. I would because this parking is head on straight

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or they could come in off of that back and come around the building and pull into the parking lot also. They could. Yeah. I don't I don't know how much How much is that? That's for buses. That's for buses, right? She said the buses are at different times than the drop off people are. But people could enter that way and come around this way. You're saying? Yes. Oh, so you can't see the bus 38th entrance. We don't want people to enter from 38th. Correct. The only people that could enter there is staff that park in that parking lot. Okay.

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But not when it's the bus line and the parent line. You can't you wouldn't be able to get in there. You wouldn't be able to do it. Okay. So, that's kind of one way except for the teachers. Okay. I at at this stage it looks like that's the only thing we can do which would help it. Help not eliminate. I mean it's a avoiding that intersection during that time is people would pretty soon get smarter and come out the other way on the other road because they're going to be waiting forever. So be mean to everybody when you're there. Don't let them out.

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Well, I don't use the school. I live next to her on 38th Street and um my stepmother drops my son off and hits that traffic all the time and she'll sit there sometimes for 20 minutes when literally like a minute down with the existing parameters is probably the best we can do at this time. And if it continues to be a problem, we're going to have to address change the direction of the diagonal. Yes. And we're going to make it a right turn only. Right turn only. And do not enter. Do not enter. Yeah, that's a good idea. I like that. Thank you. I know it's been congested area for a while, even for a couple years now. And this will help.

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It's a four-way stop and people don't know how to use them. Can I change my motion? Yes, I'll change the motion. No one seconded it, so you

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Okay. Yeah. All right. So, I would like uh to see uh the square footage. The square footage addressed the sidewalks uh to be addressed. The dimensions of the nearest uh hundth of foot and the bearing to the nearest 1/2 minute of the missing are missing from the property lines. So, let's address one, two, three, and let's make a recommendation that they change the uh parking spaces

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from running change the the diagonal of the parking spaces. When you enter on on Asberry and you turn north, those parking spaces are all to be changed vert changed space northwest. Change them. Yeah, change them. Then add a exit only sign onto 38th Street and on the opposite side do not allow people to ingress from 38th Street. No entrance. No entrance. You mean it's north parking like north? Yes. Yes. You do mean close to the intersection. Yes.

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Yeah. That is only exit. No ingress. And we're going to change the slash marks to go. So, so there'll now be three ways to get onto that property. One from 38 coming to the for the teachers, two on correct. One for the teachers and then two two for uh I think we need to get into that detail. Okay. There would be three ways to get to the property. Okay. Right. And that's and that's my motion. Three ways to get out. Yeah. Right. That's correct. That's my motion and I'm sticking to it. Okay. Do we hear a second?

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Okay. So, as part of the proposal, no, no, not yet. As part of the uh the our recommendation, we'll put that all that stuff in there. Correct. Correct. All right. Everybody understands the motion as I second. Second. Okay. Any further discussion? All in favor? I just commenting three groups of people trying to work this out is a very witness. Just want to thank

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very much so. a new burger. Okay. All in favor? I anyone opposed? Uh I don't think we have any further uh we got two more items. Burger King. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yep. Burger King. In the conditioners.

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All right. Burger King landmill planned shows demolition of the existing building and construction of a 3582 square foot eating and drinking establishment with associated storm water management facility and parking at 2872 West 26th Street located northeast intersection of Peninsula Drive and West 26th Street in track 7 number 17. Can I make a motion to approve the one with the variance of the flag pole? I think that's the only one. Do I have to mention the varian? Oh, it was already granted. Okay. I'd like to make a motion to approve. Okay. Any further discussion on that? Nope. Second. Second. All in favor?

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I. Anyone opposed? Thank you very much. One more. Huh? One more time. Sorry about that one, didn't about that one. Sign Milk Township School District signage for property located 901 West 54th and 10001 West 54th to install new electronic message centers in the R1 single family residential district. I hear a motion. I'll second. Second. Any discussion? All in favor? I.

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Anyone there? That's it. That's the last one. You need to make a motion to adjurnn. Huh? Motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjurnn. Maybe I don't want to. Okay. Look at uh may entertain a motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjurnn. Second. Second. All in favor? I. Anyone opposed? We stand adjourned at 6:25 p.m. Sir

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