About this meeting
- Government Body
- City Council
- Meeting Type
- City Council
- Location
- Midvale, UT
- Meeting Date
- November 18, 2025
Transcript
269 sections (from 756 segments)
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Welcome everyone. Sorry I don't have my usual gavvel tonight. So, if you didn't hear that, that was me using a pen trying to gave us in. Um, welcome. This is our November 18th, 2025 city council meeting. were coming from a workshop where we discussed um some park operations and uh security um some measures that we're going to be looking into in the future. So, we will start today's marathon meeting. If you've looked at the agenda, we have a lot to do and we're going to do it in a uh shortest amount of time possible, but we'll start with the pledge of
allegiance. To the flag of the United States of Americ, uh, as you may have heard, one of the council members might have been, uh, joining us, uh, while we were doing the pledge. Uh Rory, will you call the role and see who's here? Yes. Council member Robinson
here, Mich here. Uh Brown here, Billings here, and Glover here. Very good. Okay, that's all five of us. We have a quorum and can proceed. The first item on the agenda tonight will be a unified police department report. And as always, Chief April Morris.
Good evening, council. Thanks for having me. So, just some update on everything going on at the precinct. So, last month, our officers responded on 2354 patrol calls that resulted in 834 generated cases. the shelter officer specifically 106 calls and that's focusing on our unhoused population and areas around the corridor and that resulted in 43 cases. So 462 citations were issued for the month of October. Uh some fun things, Canyon School District nominated one of our crossing guards, John Drew, as the crossing guard of the week. So Fox 13 came out and filled him in sight and gave him a little recognition which was really cool to to be a part of. Uh they don't get recognized enough. Uh with our fundraiser effort so far we've gathered 2200 items for the Connie Crosby Family Resource Shelter. We swore in four new police officers today. They still have to conduct their field training work and the training. So, it will still be another nine weeks before we'll see them out into the precincts, but it's a good start to get our staffing levels right. In addition to that, we hired purchased a new K9, our our Kiloifi position. They have purchased a dog. Right now, he's currently in quarantine until we get the all clear from the vet that we can put him into training service. So, um those are the issues that we have had at uh at Midville Precinct. The other thing is uh we applied for a SAFG grant and we requested a Northstar DCB 5x7 ft dump trailer, which sounds weird for a police department to to acquire a dump trailer. Uh we had it out today. So with our unhoused population, it's not uncommon that when we have to transport them for services or some of them being transported to jail, they'll have a shopping cart of personal property. that
personal property needs to be protected and they need to be able to access that later when they're once they're released. So to be able to take a whole shopping cart worth of property, uh it's been difficult. So we were able to get a dump trailer with this grant. In addition, it can help us with some of our camp cleanups. So it's already proven to be valuable. It's also a nice resource for Midville City if our public works ever needs it. So that's what I have for the report, unless there's any questions you have of me. I was just wondering if the dog is already named or do you guys name it when you get it? They such unique names.
Yeah, it's a 13-month-old shepherd. Right now, it's name is Saiti. Citi. It will be changed once the handler has some time. They don't want to name it yet till we know we get to keep it. So, yeah. But it's over at Midville Precinct in our kennels. Thank you. Yep. And I think you said you're going to bring Saiti to see us at some point once they're trains. We know they're not going to vaccinate on the carpet. We'll bring them. Oh, and I apologize. I almost forgot. Congratulations to Citizens Academy graduation. Mayor Gtle and uh Councilwoman Mikles also graduated. So, thank you for taking time to do that. Thank you. It's our pleasure.
Thank you, Mayor. On the next item, there was um a communication error on what time they should be here and so I believe they're targeting 7:00 show up.
Okay. Um just for those in the audience, we do we're going to introduce u some members of our youth council. Um they thought that they were supposed to be here at 7. Um but we'll come back to that. Um, and I think we don't have to get a motion to proceed public comments. We can just come back to to that later. Okay. Uh, next up we have public comments. Any person wishing to comment on any item not otherwise scheduled for a public hearing, of which there are several tonight, uh, may address the city council at this point. If you want to step up to the microphone, you'll be given three minutes. Hello, my name is Luke Mains. I'm the secretary for the Midvil Community Council. Just want to remind the community or inform the community that we're having a meeting tomorrow at 6 PM at the Tyler Library. It's open to the public. And on the 17th of December will be our December meeting. And that will be a potluck slash like party for anyone on community council, family, and also anyone else who just wants to come join us. So, uh, please join us at either of those dates tomorrow at 6 p.m. or on the December 17th. Thank you.
Well, as you know, Luke, I love Christmas and Christmas parties, so I will be there for the potluck. Um, is anyone else who would like to give public comment? Okay, seeing none, we will move along to council reports. And starting off as always, council member Bonnie Billings. Thank you, Mayor. Um, I just wanted to uh express my congrats to uh Council Member Brown and Council Member Molash um and the mayor for uh elections that happened what, two weeks ago? It's either two weeks ago or two years ago. number at this point.
Um, I just wanted to say, you know, this this group up here is just um we work really well together and that and we're able to make good decisions to keep Midville moving forward. Um, and I'm really excited to um to continue that. Thank you, Council Member Billings. Um, Council Member Paul Glover joining us on Zoom today.
Uh, it's good to be with you. I'm sorry I'm not there. Uh, but the operation on my knee went well, and I just got to get through all this pain, which is not fun. I'd like to thank the city for the flowers they sent, and uh, congratulations to all the incumbents uh, that won their races. Be great time to work with you. That's all this evening. Thank you, Council Member Glover. We're all thinking of you and wish you speedy recovery. We hope to see you soon. Thank you. Moving on, uh, Council Member Heidi Robinson. Thanks, Mayor.
I too would like to congratulate all of our Midnight Incumbents. I also wanted to say thank you to anyone that participated in the election. Um, we all know exactly how hard that can be. So, anybody that's willing to put themsel out there deserves a big round of applause in my book. So, just wanted to say thank you and I'm really looking forward to seeing how the next couple years go. Thanks, Mayor. Okay. Thank you, Council Member Robinson. And moving on, District 4, Council Member Bryant Brown.
Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Just want to uh say thanks to the current council members for the kind words on the election. Um I do also want to um congratulate and uh the other two for, you know, winning their races. In the interest of time, I'll save some debriefing I think I had from what I learned, you know, canvasing this time around. Um, I do just want to also make sure, you know, I thank all the residents that voted, you know, in my district, but all the districts we had 34ish% 35
35 vote percent vote, which is pretty good comparatively to other cities, but it's still, you know, means 65% of the people didn't vote, right? So, we got to find a way to just, you know, increase those numbers and, you know, get that activism, you know, going in Midville. That's all I have. Thank you, Council Member Brown. And last but not least, District 5, Council Member Denise Picolash.
Um, hi. I wanted to say uh hello from Cleveland. Sorry I couldn't be there. Also want to say thank you for the kind notes. Um, also learned a lot on canvasing and running and speaking with the residents that I'll say for a later time. I just want to thank everyone for the support voting. I'm very excited to continue working with the city staff and everyone. Also want to say it was an honor to earn my citizens police academy uh certificate. Uh amazing insight talking with that team and all the hard work that they do and just want to say thank you for everyone that uh participated in the community um fun uh fundraiser donation drive, sorry, donation drive. So um keep giving and there's lots of needs that need to happen over the next few months. So thank you.
Thank you council member. uh for my report. In the interest of brevity, I will thank everyone up here for various things uh winning elections and for your kind words. Uh definitely appreciate that. Um I do want to say very quickly as well um thank you to all the candidates who ran this election cycle. We know as a few of us have mentioned it's not an easy thing to do. That's why we don't have 20 candidates running at each time to do it. Um, but I do want to acknowledge the efforts of those who ran for office this time and though they may not have been successful, uh, they did raise some very important issues uh, during the course of the campaign. So, we appreciate everyone's effort. Um, real quick, one thing I wanted to note, we do have the fall uh, leaf pickup uh, which is occurring uh, December 1st through 4th. Uh so the bags that are upstairs um we ask that you not put those at the curb for trash because they will not be taken. Um excuse me. But we do have uh two dumpsters or two collection units. One will be at Midbell City Park. Uh one will be at the Adam Street um park dog park. Um they'll be they'll be there December 1st through 4th. So we ask that you put your uh fall leave collection into one of those bins. Um, other than that, as I said, we have a jam-packed agenda. So, let's just go straight through to our city manager report and city manager Matt D.
I've got 20 minutes worth of someone because we were going to cut the mic, but thank you, Matt. Mike's probably even. So, we have some public hearings I think are scheduled for seven. to the so we will we'll have to come back to the public hearings. We can't legally start them until the time that they were advertised to start. So I I say 6:30. So the meeting starts at 6:30 but the Gotcha Gotcha.
Okay. So we will move along then to um the consent agenda. We have one item for tonight. Consider the minutes of October 21st, 2025. Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda? May I motion we approve the consent agenda? Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Rory, will you call the yays and yes, excuse me. Council member Brown, yes. Mich, yes. Sorry, a little flag time there. Uh, Billings, yes. Glover, hi. and Robinson I.
Okay, that passes unanimously. We will move along then to our first action item of the night and that is to consider resolution number 2025 R68 accepting and approving the results of the municipal general election held on November 4th, 2025 as shown on the canvas report. Here to discuss that is our HR director and city reporter, Aurori Andreas. This is weird.
Thank you, Mayor and Council. Exciting times. As you know, we had an election on November 4th. Lots of fun. Um, we did receive the election results today and as noted earlier, we had 35% turnout. We have 14,987 active voters and received only 5,253 ballots unfortunately, but it is better than it has been in the past. So, it's good. It's a good thing. Uh, we did have 13 provisional ballots. We had 70 that were challenged. Uh 32 of those were rejected for um other legally unccured things such as not being signed, being signed of a different signature than what were they should have been, things like that. So for the election report, as you can see up on the board here, we have the Midvail City Council District 4 seat. Bryant Brown received 788 votes. Uh Reiner Liilbox received 243 for a total of,031. For the Midvail City Council District 5, uh Denise Micholash received 505 votes and Jamie Stevenerson received 254 for a total of 759. Okay, it's broke.
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Oh, there we go. Okay. For the Midbell city mayor, this one I had to actually search for because this was the one that did a rank choice voting. So, uh, rank choice voting for the mayor. Brandy Boyer received 175 votes and Dustin Gettle received 3,193 votes. Is that a record? It's a record. and David Far received 975 votes. This was the one that was the rank choice because there were more than Oh, look. It's time. There was more than um two candidates. So, this might end by the time I'm through here. Um so, as you can see, those that the winners are Mayor Dustin GTLE, District 4 is Council Member Brian Brown, and District 5 is Council Member Denise Molash. Are there any questions on the results? You also have in your packet a breakdown of the districts, the voting districts, and how the people voted or how much how many voted. Not how they voted, but how many voted.
We don't know how any we don't know how anybody voted. No, we have no idea. Dispel that rumor. I I do have a certificate uh that I do need to have the council sign once a motion is complete.
Thank you, Rory. Um and thank you, Rory, for all the extra work you do during election season. Um, it's I know it's very stressful for candidates. It's also very stressful for Rory. Um, so thank you for all you do. Um, also real quick special shout out to district 4 with that 41% voter turnout which is exceptional for a municipal election. So district 4, we need to replicate that in districts one, two, three, and five. Um, there is a motion for the council to consider. Mayor, I move to approve resolution 2025-R68. accepting and approving the results of the municipal general election held November, 2025 as shown on the canvas report.
Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Rory, will you call the ands? Yes. Council member Mlash, yes. Billings, yes. Glover, I. Robinson, I. And Brown, yes.
Okay, that passes unanimously. Um, and we will have a swearing in ceremony on of all day is January 6th, 2026. So stay tuned for that. We'll have some information about that event. Um, moving on, I understand that we need to skip action item B for now because it is very much related to um, at least one or maybe two of the public hearings we have tonight. So if there's a motion from council to come back to action item B and just move to consider action item C at this time. So move. Second. Motion a second. All those in favor say I. Yes. Yes.
Any oppos? Any opposed?
Okay, we will move on then to action item C. Consider resolution number 2025 R63 authorizing the execution of a lease agreement with Midbell Main Partners LLC and waiver of the associated annual rent for the use of a newly constructed ball belt. Sue Armmitage in the front row, Lo's Ball Belt, located on the east side of the building at 7598 South Main. And here to talk about this, Katie Thorne. Katie, thank you and good evening, council. Tonight, I'm bringing you a ride ofway lease agreement with the Midville Main Partners. Um, this is proposing the construction of a new bullout located at 7598 South Main Street. As you can see in the picture provided for you in the outlined area within the red box is the proposed area for this bullout. The proposed improvement will go in front of a commercial space on the ground level of the West Main development. This commercial space is going to be housing Blacksmith Ice Cream Co. and will provide outdoor dining for them. These proposed improvements have been approved by the planning uh by the planning public works and engineering staff. I am trying to click next but it's also not working.
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okay so the proposed key terms of this agreement are similar to the previous right ofway lease agreements that have been presented in the past. The annual rent for the use of the street is currently set at $910 per parking space and for this one it would take up two parking spaces. The lease uh for the use of the permanent bulbout would be in effect for 10 years and the tenant would have the option to extend the lease for two additional 5-year terms. The tenant shall not make any improvements to the premise without first obtaining written consent from the city. Additionally, the tenant shall carry a policy of general liability insurance. Similarly to previous uh writeaway agreements, per the terms of the proposed agreement, the city may at its discretion wave the rate uh required fee if a determination of an economic offset is established. City staff does believe that there is an offset due to the following reasons. It enables opportunities for restaurants on Main Street to provide additional outdoor dining. Establishes new and creative opportunities along the street. Provides preservation and enhancement of the street. It also enhances pedestrian safety and offers ongoing maintenance of the two parking spaces, which will then be used for outdoor dining by the tenant at no cost to the city. We believe that it is a net benefit and we should forego the annual rent of $1,820 for the space. And then staff recommendation is approval of the rideway lease agreement with the Medbamian Partners and the waiver of the annual associated rent for the bullout located on the east side of the building at 7598 South Main Street. We are also asking for the council to suspend the rules for this agreement as the midwell main partners would like to begin the construction of this bullout prior to winter weather conditions. And I have a motion for you as well.
Okay. Any questions for Katie or about when those winter weather conditions will actually start?
Okay. There's a motion for council to consider. Mayor, I move that we approve resolution number 2025-R63 authorizing the execution of a right-of-way lease agreement with Midvail Made Partners LLC and wave the associated annual rent for the use of a newly constructed bulbout located in the east side of the building at 7598 South Main Street, Midville, Utah 84047. And is it too late to say to suspend the rules? Move that we suspend the rules. Good job with that. We have a motion. Motion and a second. Rory, will you call the yes and on this one? Yes. Council member Glover. Hi. Robinson. I. Brown.
Yes. Mush. Yes. And Billings. Yes.
Okay, that passes unanimously. Looking forward to that. Um, so I see that we have our youth council representatives have entered the building. Um, they may not be ready to go yet. Katie, can you just see if they are ready to come in? Okay, two more minutes. We will move on then to action item D. Consider resolution number 2025R69 authorizing the mayor to execute an agreement for compensation for property improvements and conveyances with Zachary P. Eldridge and Lindseay E. Elridge in connection with the 2025 roadway and utility improvement project. Here to discuss that, making her way up here with a tie, so we might know what that means, is Kate Andress.
Yes. Uh thank you, mayor, and thank you, city council. Um, so I'm bringing before the council compensation agreement. That's weird. Sorry, there was like a different window that came by. Um, with Zachary P. Eldridge and Lindsay E. Eldridge. They own Big Mountain Barbell. Um, and this is in regards to the Stag Street or the 2025 um, street improvement and utility construction project. Um, as part of the improvements, I promise I'm not touching it. Uh, for that project, we are putting in um curb, gutter, and sidewalk. Um, and in addition to that, we have a new apartment building that's coming in. Um, I provided these visuals to kind of show you where the power lines are located along Stag Street. Um, as you can see in that first photo, there are power lines that are really close to that apartment building. And then as you go down, um, south on Stag Street, um, where we're putting in the curb, gutter, and sidewalk is actually right where some of those power poles are going. So, um, knowing this in advance, we've been working with Rocky Mountain Power for a new design to underground the two power poles on the north end and then to move the power poles on the south end of Stag um, further east. So, as we're doing that, um, we're we've been acquiring right of way. Um, but we will need to get additional easements for some switchbox gears that Rocky Mountain Power needs to put in. Um, and then the way that Rocky Mountain Power is Rocky Mountain Power, Big Mountain Barbell is situated. There we go. Um, a lot of these improvements is going to have a huge impact on their parking. Um, so we've been working closely with them to obtain
the ride ofway in the easement, but um, we are compensating them for, um, for lack of better words, the disruption that it's going to do to their parking lot. Um so as part of the design um we redesigned their parking so that they could have the same number of parking stalls. Um and then we also figured out a way to lay out the sidewalk and then the switch gear box. So the terms of the agreement um for the ride of way the city is going to compensate them um the 4752 for the property that they're conveying to us. Um, this was based on a recent appraisal of a neighboring property. Um, that's where we got the cost per square footage. And then we'll also be compensating them for the easement that will be granted to Rocky Mountain Power. Um, we will be compensating them to restripe the parking lot. Um, they also have a current sign which is located where we are putting in sidewalks. So, we will have to relocate that. Um, so we will either relocate it or um, the owners of Big Mountain Barbell have mentioned wanting to get a new sign. Um, if that's the case, then we would just take the cost that would have been that would have gone towards relocating the sign. We would give that to Big Mountain Barbell and they could choose to put that towards a new sign and installation if they were to choose to do so. And then on the north side of the building, they have a large air conditioning unit. um we are putting curb gutter and sidewalk in there and so they will have to relocate that. So um the city's also agreeing to reimburse them for that relocation. Um so the proposed compensation agreement would result in a total estimated cost of 16,973. Um these funds would be provided through
the 2025 roadway and utility improvement project fund. And um West Main Development does expect to be completed by December 19th. And in order to uh obtain occupancy for that building, um they do need the roadway improvements for Stag Street and Depot to be finished by then. So we're hoping to suspend the rules so that we can get those easements and rideways in place so that they can uh continue to meet that deadline and avoid any delays. And I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you, Kate. Any questions from councel? I'll leave other things aside for you to learn.
Okay. Hearing something, but not exactly sure what that was. Um, no questions from council. There is a motion. She's wearing the bolo, which means um suspend the rules for those in the audience. Um, is there a motion from the council? Mayor compensation property improvements Eldridge and Linds.
Second. Okay. Motion and a second. Rory, will you call the Y and N? I just have one request. When we do these going forward, can you just have the motion in the biggest font possible because I could not have read that one. Yes. Thank you. Getting old. Getting old. Rory, will you call the a Yes. And mayor, also with the with the tie comes treats. And I think they need to remember the treats. Just saying. House member Robinson Brown. Yes. Malash. Yes. Billings. Yes. And Glover. I.
Okay. That passes unanimously as well. Um, now we will go back to our youth council introductions. Um, and I will say one of the the best things about being mayor is getting to work with the youth of our community and and be inspired by them every day and the ideas that they have and just the the people that we know they're going to become, the leaders they're going to become in our community. So, we wanted to introduce you to uh Vanessa, are you going to do anything or did you want to come up and No, Vanessa doesn't want to come up. So, I will invite the youth council to come up to the microphone and just introduce yourselves uh to us and just anything you would like to say and and I know um you have a unique position within the uh youth council if you want to explain that to folks.
Of course. Hi everyone. I hope you're all having a wonderful evening. My name is Harit. I am a junior at Hillrest High School. And the special position I have is I am the deputy mayor of the Midvil Youth Council. Now, the Youth Council in the simplest form is a bunch of high schoolers from around the Midville area and we're working together on a policy proposal which we have to pass into legislation. Now, some of you are wondering, how are a bunch of high schoolers that every once in a while come around and hang around city hall plan on making a policy proposal? Well, we planned out the entire program with tours and agenda setting to achieve that goal. Now, some tours we planned out are UPD and the UFA. And we've split into committees as these two are two of the committee chairs we have for social outreach and community engagement. We also have another committee on youth resources. And the overall goal that we're trying to achieve is have a proposal or even a mockup of the legislation we want to get passed ready for local officials day in January. And I really want to say that I'm very grateful for all the amazing members that we have in the program because even outside the meetings, they're committed and they're working on their ideas to help the community. And I also want to thank Vanessa, Quai, Mariah for how much effort they're putting in in supporting us and as well as you all on the council for giving us your support and resources so that we can actually fulfill what we want to do with this program. Thank you so much. Do any of you guys have questions regarding anything I said?
Any questions for Deputy Mayor Har here? Thank you. It's going to be a fun year and action-packed, I hope. I'm Yes, please introduce yourselves, too.
Oh, yeah. Um, hi, my name is Genesis Varus. I am currently a senior at Hillrest High School. Um, I am currently into two squads. I'm in a hope squad and I'm also in productions company of Hillrest. Um, while being in committee chair, we've talked about some ways that we want to improve our community. And uh with that being would be youth engagement and youth resources that include like homelessness, substance abuse and just kind of community engaging kind of like wrapping that up with raising awareness about certain things and issues going on in our community. Um so kind of just being an advocate for those issues kind of um sharing that and sharing the message so then everyone can become aware of what's going on. Um but yeah, do you guys have any questions? Thank you as well. Looking forward to seeing what you guys come up with.
Hi, my name is Leila Cur. I'm also a student at Hillis High School. This should be my second year in the Mayor Susan Castle. Um I think they pretty much covered a lot but from like as this is my second year so far for I think besides just planning and just I don't know I think it covered a lot like having a lot of engagement um yeah like yeah I'm just happy to be here and we are like working towards like especially outside of school a lot of things and yeah it's pretty exciting. Thank you. Um, any comments from the council or questions?
I just wanted to say, but please keep it up. Please stay engaged. Thank you. Thank you.
Okay. Thank you. Looking forward to the next few months. And thank you to Kawaii and Vanessa who's hiding in the back um for all that they do to uh keep the youth council. It really is interesting how um these in the best way possible, these are overachievers and um I wish I was that way. When I was in high school, I was busy with my Super Nintendo and you guys are out doing um really important work and and looking forward to seeing what you guys come up with in with your legislative initiative. So, congrats, welcome. Uh look forward to what you have next. Uh, moving along then, let's see if I can remember where we were in this agenda. Um, it is past 7:00, so if council is in agreement, we can start with public hearings. Okay, seeing head nods. Uh we will start with our first public hearing that is to receive public comment regarding the sale and property located at 362 West Center Street to Salt Lake County and authorizing the mayor to execute the agreement for purchase and sale of real property Midville Park operations and maintenance interlocal agreement and write a first refusal aka the library. And to talk about this, city manager Matt Doll.
Well, I am looking at you that there should be a PowerPoint ready.
Nope, no problem. I just want to make sure that I wasn't looking at you when people were getting like, what's he doing? Um so uh this evening um we're here to talk about uh an offer that has been uh profered by the uh by Salt Lake County in order to acquire um a uh property at 362 West Center Street. The um as the mayor had indicated, the purpose of this is for there to be a branch of the library system uh built uh on the location um that we're going to be talking about. Um so the new library construction um the library that is being proposed would replace the Ruth Vine Tyler Library. Um a couple of years ago uh it was identified that that library was uh at the end of its economic life. And so there was an interest in trying to find a new location um within Midvail to serve our community. staff was in communication with the Salt Lake County staff and discussing potential um locations where this may go and that led to the development of a proposal um that you are going to be considering this evening. Um the proposal would be to purchase 2.561 acres um at the location I previously mentioned and u staff believe uh as we've been working with the county that uh bringing together these two assets will make them uh even better than the sum. No, of the individ the sum of them will be better than the individual parts. That's what I meant to say. Um just for a quick visual on this. So what this would look like um this is the southern portion of Midville City Park. Um the lot lot two on here is the lot that we are discussing um uh selling to the county. um we have gone through and talked with the different groups that rent the fields um around there um and worked with them to say if this transaction were to move forward. Sorry,
it's doing the leap forward thing which throws off my flow when the slide moves forward. Um anyway, uh so we've been able to work through and show that we are still able to put sports fields um in the field area. Um, we think that this location is beneficial in how it presents towards would present towards Center Street. Clearly, we don't have a design yet on it. Um, but we think that that'll be something that is positive. In addition to that, how uh its proximity um to uh um the uh middle school as people are walking into the park uh as is a regular um pedestrian route uh and the proximity to the Boys and Girls Club, I think would all be positive things, which is why we have been working with the county to put together a proposal. The proposal that you're considering this evening is actually three different documents. Um, one of them is the purchase agreement uh for the property where the sale it's really a pretty basic u purchase and sale agreement. Um, given that it has been uh parkland for quite some time, there's not a whole lot of other details other than that. We're looking to sell that uh those 2.561 acres. Uh the sales price is uh 1.215 million. Uh the price per square foot is the same as what we purchased the property for um from the school district earlier this year. Um and then uh we will uh be responsible for removing some of the personal property that's remaining on the site when the property um is moves forward with construction. That includes the playground that's on there electric sign. And then we don't believe there are utilities crossing underneath there, but if there were um we would uh work on disconnecting those and working around them. And then we will also um need to disconnect and cap the irrigation system when the construction starts. Um we will need to maintain maintain insurance um uh and uh for the property during the
time. Sorry, it jumped to the operations and parks maintenance agreement. That's where I got thrown off. Second agreement is the Midvail Park operation and maintenance interlocal agreement. Sorry, I've covered some of this already, but the the general gist of this is that the park will uh continue to operate like the park until they start construction. Um we will be able to uh for example, when you saw in that image, the parking lot is uh part of that is part of the lot that we're looking at selling and that um until the construction starts um that parking lot will be continued to be a parking lot that serves the uh park. Um the primary thing is that we would not be able to enter into any new leases um pertaining to the property that we're selling and um that is something that we're able to we have been working on. Um by the time we close we need to have all of the leases worked out and essentially we have that already so that they no longer include the piece of property that we're looking at selling. Um and then the final thing that's part of this agreement is the uh community design participation. Um we've spoken with the county and included in this agreement that a city representative uh will participate in library design process um uh to ensure the alignment with the community needs um going forward. Uh that being said, there had been some previous discussion about trying to come up with a more formal what does this mean? Um but given that the county does not have a design committee set up or any of that kind of stuff, we've agreed that we will work together on on how we participate going forward in that design. And then the third document that's part of this transaction is the right of first refusal. Um the right of first refusal is just uh gives us the opportunity that if in the future the county uh um uh receives and is interested in in allowing the property to be sold to a bonafide third party, um we would have the ability to um essentially match the
offer. Technically, it says we have to actually make our offer $1 more than what's being proposed. Um, but then we could then purchase that li or that library property back and add it back into the park. Clearly, that's sometime well down the line. But we are making sure that we're protecting um our ability to to make sure that that remains an asset um for the community, whether it's library or just returns to be part of the park. Um, as part of this too, um, there in the agreement, as you probably saw as you read through it, there are a series of timelines that in case we're notified that, uh, they want us to proceed with the, um, uh, sorry, if we're notified that they're interested in proceeding with selling the property, there's a series of notices about how long we have to let them know that we want to exercise. There's a period of time for where they have to provide us with a title report. We have to decide if we want the title report and then finally how long it takes to close and those were all things that we negotiated with them and then finally if we do uh exercise the right first refusal we would have to cover cover the closing costs. Clearly the documents cover a lot more terms than that but like I said in the end the transaction itself is a relatively simple transaction. Um, with that, um, the only other thing I' I'd say on this is, um, uh, first of all, we have, um, some representatives from the county here this evening if anyone would like to ask them any questions. Uh, and then second, um, it has been great working with them and, um, I look forward to, um, your decision on this and if you, um, decide to move forward with it, um, the opportunity to work with them. um to gather community input and hopefully come and and come up with a great design that everyone's going to appreciate at this location I think will be something that would be good for us. Again, if you choose to decide that I recognize I've been using a lot of positive language like you've
already made that decision. So, I apologize for that uh that insufferable um positivity. Um the um I think that's about all I wanted to cover for now. Does anyone have any questions for me?
So, Matt, I do know when the transition happens and and there's that where the Ruth Tyler Library is now, there's going to be a lot of anxiety about that, right? And you know, I I think we you know, if we could, we would try to purchase it or something, but I don't I don't know if the county would do that. What worries me is county and state seem to be fine just sitting on it properties, right? And I think that's unfortunate with a lot of the situations going on between housing and the opportunity for vandalism or or whatever, right? People can, you know, use the buildings for things and, you know, kind of disappointed that we don't have a little bit more direction or movement on that old property um or input. And I know that's not necessarily on this decision here, but um you know, I just want to make sure we're always sort of talking about that because it would be good for the community to know because it's in the middle of a neighborhood, right?
Yeah. So, a a couple of things with that. Um we have had discussions with the county and expressed our interest in however their process of disposing of that property that we could be involved with that. um at this point they can speak to sort of where their position is but they don't know what they want to do but I believe what I remember hearing is that the library doesn't have an interest in holding that long term but again I'll let them speak to that the one thing that I can provide is um couple of things one um so there will be a design process and construction and so we are a couple of years out from um uh the library uh closing unless uh a major system breaks down or something like that there. U I believe that's correct. Right.
Yeah. Uh the other part of it is that um that area is zoned SF1 um which is a single family home zone and has limitations on what could go there that um of course we can never guarantee that you know the that um people will know exactly what goes there but those limitations should prevent some of the things that they're most concerned about going into that property after it is available for development. Yeah, I think our the nerv there's several sort of layers to that and and I that's I mean I get there's sort of a timeline, but like we have a U dot property and a UTA property in this district that grow 10- foot weeds, right? And we have to yell at them till they finally decide to um oh yeah, this is right next to a bunch of homes and this looks really bad, right? And that's what my initial fear will be, right? right away with that transition is they treat it like all these other government entities that don't seem to care about Midville as much as we would like them to and it looks bad, right? And then the next would be what you know the use case was. I do know it's zone SF1 and and you know we can control that to an extent but you know we just want to make sure that it's right in the middle. It's it's a kind of a weird spot for a library anyways. Um, granted like Coolage at at that point didn't have homes and stuff that was built, so maybe it didn't feel as much like a neighborhood, but you know, I just want to make sure that that transition out is as painless as possible, um, you know, because, you know, those people, you know, they matter. I can just add in my conversations with um County Mayor Wilson um Joey Robin, I no one's ever indicated to me anything other than um the interest in in I I shouldn't say getting rid of the property, but not maintaining um
ownership of that property for any extended period of time. Um, so, you know, not that we can hold anyone speak to the fire and say, "Hey, you promised that." But I feel confident that, um, there'll be a quicker turnover unless the county wants to develop single family homes in that area, which I don't think that they are quite in the business of doing. Um, but any other questions for Matt or and I know when I spoke at the county council in favor of this, um, you guys were kind enough to welcome me to the microphone and and give any thoughts. So, we would like to extend the same courtesy if you guys have any welcome, by the way.
Thank you, mayor. Congratulations on your reelection. Thank you. Um hello everyone. Thank you for having us here today and thank you for the kind welcome. I'm uh Robin Shalloo. I am part of the mayor's administration. I am the community services uh director which includes the oversight of the library. And I have to just say it has been just a joy to work with Midvail City on this project. Uh the mayor has been so welcoming, but Matt and Nate have been so fabulous to work with over the last year as we think about how we can replace the Ruthbine Tyler Library. Uh it is a beloved institution in this community. Uh we just looked it up. 1967 it was built. It has been a foundational piece of Midvail for quite a long time. and we want to do it justice and keep it in that neighborhood and continue to have it as a great community asset. And so it's so important for us to connect with the community, having the community involved as we move forward with the design and uh construction of this library. You have that strong commitment from us and our stewardship of the old library and how we dispose of that. uh we really value uh the residents in that area and want to ensure that we're continuing to create a meaningful safe location for them in that area and don't want to have it as a weed building or anything like that. We would have good stewardship of that as we move forward with the disposition. But I would love to inter invi introduce Joey Mcame, the library director, so she could speak specifically to uh her excitement for this new library.
Okay. Good evening. Thank you so much for giving us a moment to say hello. We are thrilled about the possibility of building a library next to as part of Midvail Park. Um, as city manager Matt Dah stated, we we believe that this is going to be the sum is greater than the parts. And we love a park adjacency for a library because folks come in, get books, play. It's a place where people are coming anyway, go outside for walks. Um, so we're really enthusiastic about the possibility. Uh, we hear you on the existing property, which as we said, we plan to operate that library. uh the existing library as long as we can until um hopefully we're opening the new branch. Uh and we'll be mindful of that. Uh one of our goals as the library is to have every have excellent relationships with our communities. We want to be loved if we're being honest. Uh and so
that's right. Um and having a languishing property that's associated with the library does not help achieve that goal. uh we want to have the trust of the communities that we're serving. And so that's an important piece of that. We're talking about a couple of years down the road. And so um you have my good intents and our and our um commitment to do what we can to make sure that the resolution is satisfactory to to the residents of Midvail. Um but if I could, I would just take one second to tell you a little bit about what we uh our relationship with the residents of Midvail um this past year. So, the last year we had 90,000 visitors to the library.
Those are duplicated numbers, as you might have guessed, uh with nearly 800 new library cards. Um almost 12,000 computer sessions, uh almost 14,000 people attended a library event. Um 176,000 items were checked out. those are books, media or um library of things items. Uh and over 3,000 people attended our classes and educational events. So we have eight bilingual staff so that we're making sure that we're serving the residents of Midell. And I'm sure most of you know Davey. Will you give a wave? Who's everybody knows Davey?
We're so lucky to have him working for our system and we're so excited that he is a part of this community. So, thank you so much for uh the work that we've done to get to this point to be able to bring this proposal to you. Um, and thank you for embracing our staff and the services that we provide as a system. And before I conclude, I just want to mention uh a couple of things which is first the Midvail team has worked steadfastly to make sure that they are um lobbying for the cities and residents interests through this process. So, as we figured out what parcel of um what corner of this park is the right place for the park, so much thought and effort went into making sure that the library could come in and be an amazing library while preserving the real core value uh and some of those core functions that the park provides. And the second piece is as Robin touched on this um related because we want to make sure nobody wants to bring in a library and have it ruin something else. So what we want to do is make sure that this is a win-win prospect and that's how we approached it leading up to this moment and that is how we will approach it going forward. There will be heavy community engagement and involvement to make sure that the library that we build is the library that's right for Midvail. We love this community. We know a new branch is overdue and we are thrilled about the possibility of moving our new branch here. So, thank you so much.
Thank you, Robin. Thank you, Joey. Any questions for Robin or Joey while they're up here? And I I appreciate it. I know my comments are are harsh or hard. I just It's my neighborhood. I know they'll be like, "This is cool. Some will be sad that it's moving, but every single one of them within a week or two, I'm going to get that question." That's why they elected you. I I yeah support that 100%. Yeah. So it's you know let's just keep that in mind because absolutely you know it is their neighborhood. So yeah substitive to that and let us know if there's any concerns or anything arises. We we want to be here to support you. Appreciate it.
Okay. Thank you both very much. Uh this is a public hearing. Um, if the council is so inclined, um, we could open this to public comment. Is there a motion to do so? Mayor, I motion that we open a public comment. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Uh, Rory, is that a roll call? Yeah. No roll call. All those in favor of opening public comment, say I. Yes. Yes. Yes. I. Any opposed? Okay. This item is now open for public comment. If there's anyone in the audience who would like to give public comment on this item, please step up to the microphone. You'll be given three minutes.
And if you could just state your name for the record.
Thanks for the time. My name is Jason Baxter. Live in the neighborhood in Councilman Brown's uh district. Appreciate the uh thought of the people in the neighborhood. do want to express just thanks to uh the city in general. I know a lot of people have worked on this for several years. We appreciate knowing that the uh library needs to be replaced over the next couple years and proactively getting ahead of it has been great. I do want to uh just call out several of the things that were mentioned as that are great about this location being close to the schools next to the park. There are a couple areas that over the coming years would be great if we uh pay attention to things like kids being able to cross the uh center street there right in the area. That's been a long running concern with these schools and other things that have moved around. But overall, I've heard nothing but positive feedback from my neighbors that there is a new potential location and so we're very encouraged to see this moving forward.
Thank you, Jason. Is there anyone else who would like to give public comment? Seeing none, I will entertain a motion to Oh, Davey, come on. Right under the under the wire there. Let's see if anybody else wants state your name for the record.
I am Dave Bird. David Bird. Um, hi everybody. If you didn't know me, I'm the I'm the manager of the library. It's been an honor to be the uh manager for the last nine years. Been your neighbor. And so, I just want to also give some reassurance. I'm also not planning on going anywhere. So, I will make sure that uh that as being part of the conversations now, as we design this, we'll make sure that the public has plenty of input on what they want it to look like, what it's going to be, the service. I also have that same concern about the street. Um, you've got the middle school and the elementary school is going to be less than a block away, which is fantastic for the library, however scary. So, um, having worked at Kern's Library, which is right next to a middle school, I know how many kids are going to come over and wander every single day, which is going to be such a such a fortunate thing for our city. Um, I also want to let everybody know that we plan this is going to be gorgeous. This is going to be functional. This is going to serve probably three times what we're already doing. Um, and so it's just going to be a really cool asset. Thank you for the opportunity. I am thrilled to the bones. I'm probably shaking right now, but so thank you so much. Thank you the city for and also the residents. You are the ones that make it so that we can do this. If you weren't using the library, we wouldn't have a new library. So, thank you for that.
Okay. Thank you, Davey. Would anyone else like to give public comment on this? Okay. Last time I tried this, someone stepped up. So, I'm going to say Matt, you're not giving public comment. Okay. Is there a motion to uh close public comment? A motion we close public comment. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. All those in favor of closing public comment say I. I. Any opposed?
Okay, we are out of public comment. Um there is a motion on the board. I just wanted to say really quick, um the Tyler Library has been in existence for 60 years. So this new library we're hoping will be there for at least 60, hopefully more. And so this is a rare opportunity for us as a council to do something that's going to, you know, really cement a legacy for the next 60 years. So I know there's been a lot of excitement up here at the possibilities. It's also nice as an elected official now to be able to tell people about the library plans and exactly where it's going to go because that was probably the worstkept secret for many months, but now we can say it and and you know, I think all I've heard is excitement from from folks. So appreciate all the efforts. I do want to call out Matt and Garrett and Nate specifically uh for all that they've done to get this uh deal in place and of course our our county partners as well. Um any other comments from the council? I know this is one of those moments where we elected officials like to talk about something we're very excited about.
I'm just really excited for it. You know, we're all looking at him.
Yeah. I I think we have other ideas to help make the road safer to cross coming up, right? And uh so yes, very uh considerate of that. Um you know, I not that I was the one that told anyone in my neighborhood about this previously, but it was a a poorly kept secret. Um I think once it opens and people can see that they can still sort of walk there and and visit that they will really appreciate it. Uh, I think it being close to the Boys and Girls Club and the schools are probably going to have a much more positive impact than we're we're prepared for. You know, something we can't necessarily put down on paper. So, you know, I'm really excited for that. Um, I do think the West Jordan Park in the Valley is like a a golden example of what a park should be, right? And they have their library right next to the park. Um, in fact, there's other things I want to mirror, you know, when that's done, right? And I, you know, I've gone to that library and trying and it always seems like a ton of traffic, right? So, I just envision there's a lot of that. I'm glad they're keeping it probably about as close as they could keep it to the location um given sort of what the county likes as far as, you know, road frontage and property size. So, you know, those are all positive things. So, I can't I can't wait. Um, now I'm I'm kind of impatient, right? So, like let's break ground yesterday, right? And that because that'll be the next question I get, right? you know, when when when when right and uh but that'll just be because people are excited, you know, so I'm happy to have people ask me that and you know, hopefully we can get going on it, you know, we'll be good to go.
And I think what we would like to do um is have a page on our website that's dedicated to the progress of not just this project, but a lot of major projects that we're doing here in Midville. And I know um Laura has expressed some interest and ability to that we can do that anyway. So I think this library is is a great example of like we can have check marks or or benchmarks that we're meeting with dates. So I think you're right. That's the next question we're going to get for the next three years. Any other comments from council?
I just wanted to say too that I am extremely excited about this. As someone that visits the library often, um I still love the smell and the feel of an actual book. I know everybody's like, "You didn't need a book." No, I like my books. Um I'm really excited about this and I think the location is great because this offers us one more place for community engagement and we are searching and building that right now in Midville and this is just one more step to having that. And I can't wait to see how this looks and um all the fun adventures this will bring. Yeah, I mean I just want to echo the excitement as we were hearing the presentation. Um I kind of I I joked with um with Council Member Robinson that I was getting teeyed hearing about it. It's just been really exciting and really to bring our community together around something that's going to be such an asset to the Midvail we're building and I'm really really excited um about that. So let's let's get going. Okay. Council members online, anything? We're not putting you on the spot if you don't have any additional comments.
I just agree with what everyone said. So excited. I actually told everyone before it was approved. Just kidding. But uh so excited. Can't wait to see it come to fruition. Um excited about what it'll do for the community. And like Heidi, I'm a frequent visitor, so I appreciate us not only offering all the books and the services, but everything else it does for the community. I'd like to also say that uh I've been a Midville resident all my life. I actually went to elementary school where this library is going to be. So, it's exciting and I think it'll be a great add-on for our community.
Okay. Thank you, council members. There is a motion on the board after all of this to for the council to uh determine if that's the way we want to go. Mayor, I move that we approve resolution 2025-R66, approving the sale of property located at 362 West Center Street to Salt Lake County and authorizing the mayor to execute the agreement for purchase and sale of real property, Midvail Park operations and maintenance, interlocal agreement, and right of first refusal. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Rory, will you call the ands? Yes. Council member Billings, yes. Glover, I. Robinson, I. Brown,
yes. And Mich, yes. Okay, surprising no one. That passed unanimously. Um, we have marching orders to start the process of a new library. And anything we can do to help Davey um serve more residents, the better because Davey really does a lot of great programming in the library that he has now. and only expanding those opportunities is going to be amazing for this community. So, um we are looking at closing by the end of the year and uh once that's done um I think we'll be able to start providing uh more regular updates on the progress for the project. So, I appreciate you guys and uh your support for this project.
Awesome. Thank you, Matt. And thank you to Joey and Robin, our county partners. We appreciate it. Moving on to public hearing B. Receive public comment on the Midbell City Parks, Trails, and Open Space Master Plan and its associated impact fees facility plan. Here to discuss that is Adam Olsen. Hi, Adam.
Thank you, Mayor and Council. Uh, I'll just give a brief introduction. Uh, we do have um the consultant team. we have some of their members here to kind of walk us through the plan and what it entails and kind of give a history as to how we got here. So, um before us tonight, this is the parks and open space parks, trails, and open space master plan. It's the first of its kind for um for Midvail. So, we're excited to have that. Um it did go to the planning commission last month and it was unanimously recommended for approval. Uh there was an extensive uh outreach component of this plan. um which uh the consultant team will discuss. Uh one of the most successful outreaches was um actually being part of the mural fest. Uh they had a booth uh just kind of here behind city hall and the uh input and comments that they received were really quite uh interesting. So, I'll turn the time over to the uh MHTN consultant group. And if you have any questions throughout this, please feel free to just kind of uh ask uh if they come up. That was one of the things we did with planning commission um and they were very receptive to that and it was kind of a back and forth. So, um we're happy to present this to you tonight.
Good evening everyone. Uh exciting evening. Certainly glad to be here with you. Thought I'd test this out really quickly and just see how this is working. Good luck. Yeah. Could you give us your names, please? Yes. Uh I'm Ryan Wallace with MHTN Architects. I'm an architect and planner. Um I was the overall project manager for this effort. I'll let the other two individuals introduce themselves when they speak if that's all right. Absolutely. Thank you.
Okay. Thank you. We appreciate the opportunity to work with you on such a meaningful effort. Um, creating quality park space and access to that throughout your community is one of the most valuable things we can do. That's right at the core of what you were just discussing at the the prior um council item. So, we we approach this with um understanding the full gravity of its importance. We've been working on this project since the beginning of this year. The effort itself could have been expedited if we'd like to, but your staff recommended that we make sure we take sufficient time to listen to the community, engage with community members at events, online, talk with key stakeholders. I should also mention Front Regional Council does have a representative in the audience with us here tonight. They were a participating funding partner and helped facilitate the process along with the city. So, we've taken roughly 11 months working on this to put the draft plan in front of you today. And that was because we wanted to make sure we had sufficient time to listen to your community, explore all the opportunities. Midvail is unique. Uh, as you all well know within your position in the valley, um, opportunities that exist for you, but also constraints with things like, uh, freeways, uh, rail lines, there there are barriers within the community that present challenges to mobility and access to parks. and there are pockets of neighborhoods who have limited access to some of the park amenities which you um have in the community. So listening to residents trying to find opportunities to connect them to the amenities here in Midville is very important. So let's jump forward. We'll I'm going to introduce Britney from Horox who's going to talk about the public engagement process.
Thank you. Yeah, my name is Britney Finley. I'm part of the public engagement group. Um, and as Ryan was saying, a big part of this was engaging with the community. Um, some highlevel overview of what we did. Um, in total, we had 234 public survey responses, which is actually pretty good. Trying to get a survey out there, um, getting the public's feedback. We distributed about 400, um, flyers and collateral within all of our public outreach. We had one-on-one meetings and focus group sessions where we were in smaller groups to try and get that um one-on-one time with individuals to really nail down what is important in the community. Um and we also had several tableabling events where we went out into the community so that we could meet with people in real time um people who were actually out there using the parks and the trails um to see what their views were on this. Um and then we also had the open house at the mural festival which was a great opportunity for us to interact with almost 150 people. So it was it was a really great experience. Um through all of these um interactions we were promoting the master plan survey and I'll just go through a couple of the survey takeaways. So um this item, how often do you or your family use midvils parks, trails and recreational spaces? uh 25% of respondents um said that they use them daily. Um and then weekly it's about uh 40%. The nice part of this is less than 3% people never use them. So we really see that this community loves to be out and would would like to be in um the parks or the spaces more often. Um what factors prevented you from using parks and recreational spaces in Midvil? Um the biggest barrier was accessibility including lack of sidewalks or safe crossings and connections to these spaces which is um pretty important um
because we need to make sure that we can give access to these community members. The next is what type of amenities or features would you most like to see implemented in the newer existing parks? Overwhelmingly walking and biking trails which was very good to see. Um, second, splash pads. So, something to be aware of. And then, how do you feel the city should prioritize investments in its parks and open spaces? So, this is categorized between um a couple different areas. So, East Midvail on the east side of 900 East near Union Park. Um, they would like to improved pedestrian and bike access specifically for the Union Park area. And then between 300 East and 700 East and also I 215 to 70 or 200 South. Um there's not really green spaces or parks which you know we we all know that. Um and then there is a lack of places for children and community gatherings which was important to a lot of people we spoke with. Now this one Ryan did you want to speak on this a little bit?
Sure. Just a bit confusing because you've got quantitative and qualitative information combined here. So in an effort to not skew responses, we allowed people to rank which of these were most important to them. So uh we were asking in what ways would residents like to focus would like to see the city focus their efforts in improvements. So for instance, if you take Canal Trail Extension u far and away ranked number one, but also receive the most overall votes of one, two, and three. Um, so that would be your kind of most clear example of how to read this chart. You'll have this in your packets if you'd like to dive into it further. But you also see bike and facilities crossings on 7200 South, very important. Porter Rockwell Trail extension. I suspect these are topics of conversation that have come up frequently in the community. Those are things that we were hearing. Uh, you see State Street crossings as well. And then tonight we talked about Center Street. That is also showing up on here. Thank you, Ryan. And then um this was one of the fun activities that we had at the mural fest. So we pulled everyone asking how should the city prioritized um investments into its parks. Um and the number one thing that came up was maintaining and improving existing facilities. And then um the second item that was most popular was adding more amenities like seating, lighting, and restrooms. Um, a couple of other comments that we went through or that came in to us. Um, focusing more on investments on the parks and trails that we have right now, especially to the east where the gaps of service are. Um, improving crossings across major corridors, specifically Jordan River. Um, incorporating more amenities like seings, tables, dog parks, amenities. Um, more signage and opportunities for fitness challenges like mile markers or designated jogging routes. and then improved walking
experience specifically along Center Street and near the underpasses. And then maintaining existing facilities and expanding recreational services. We heard a lot um from several mothers who were saying they would really like to have all of their children's activities in the city, but um unfortunately they're not available, so they have to go outside of the city. And they said, "I would really like to keep it within our city if possible." Um, and then more improvements and amenities at Jordan Bluffs Regional Park. Okay. So, now that we've given you a bit of update on the process, let's move to some of the recommendations of the plan. Uh, when we visited together previously, we we talked about the vision statement of the project. So, I'll go ahead and move past that. But one of the things to uh remember from our prior discussion underneath the vision statement we've nested guiding principles and associated goals to try to make sure that this plan is holistic and thoughtful in its scope. Right? So uh in terms of guiding principles connectivity and access innovative and multi-purpose use of space resilience and environmental stewardship community centered and inclusive planning process which we believe has been the case that needs to continue happening as you move forward and finally creating a clear path path to implementation. Let's talk just a little bit about existing level service. Jonathan, feel free to come on up here and and Jonathan from Zans's Bank will walk us through what level of service means and then I'll take over in a moment and we'll u show you some of what we learned as we've studied your community.
Good evening, mayor, council members. My name, excuse me, my name is Jonathan Considine. I am with, excuse me, I'm with Zans Public Finance, which is a subsidiary of Zans Bank Corporation. Zans Public Finance was asked Thank you. Zans's public finance was asked to create an impact fee facilities plan in connection with the parks, trails, and open space master plan. An impact fees facility plan or IFFP accomp accomplishes four things. It identifies a level of service being provided by the city as far as parks go. It identifies excess capacity if there is any. Uh it identifies the demands that future growth will place upon the city's existing parks system and it identifies how those demands will be met. The level of service is calculated uh in a couple of different measures. There are uh there is a level of service that looks at park acres um that considers eligible park acres per 10,00 people. Uh for trails the level of service is uh shown in eligible square footage uh per capita and both of those measures are converted to a dollar amount per capita. Um, as far as eligibility goes, only parks and trails that are owned by the
city, paid for by the city, service the broader community as opposed to a single development, um, and are used for recreation, are eligible for inclusion in an impact fee. The goal of an impact fee is to make the city whole for demands on growth caused by new development. So, out of 79.5 park acres in Midvale um that are that are owned by the city, only 20.6 are impact fee eligible. And you can see the uh existing level of service in the table in the right corner. In the table above, you can see a comparison to different cities. uh in the area surrounding Midvail. Um and this this is again shown in acres per 10,00 people. This uh doesn't include uh the total value of the improvements on the parks. This is just looking at land. Uh these communities were chosen uh based on geographical uh proximity and uh similar population size. Um and they're also ones that Zans's public finance had uh information on. Uh the IFFP proposes maintaining the level of service. So you can see in the bottom table uh the numbers are the same. Uh an impact fee can't be used to increase the level of service. Uh the most you can do with an impact fee is to maintain the level of service. Um and this level of service again does not include uh all the park acres in the city. These are just uh this is just a
measure to be used for impact fee purposes. The Wasach Front Regional Council estimates that in by 2035 uh Midvail will grow by 4,820 people uh more or less. Um that growth will create demands on Midvil's uh existing parks and trails system. And uh if no new development, if no new uh parks and trails are are added, um you can see that the service levels will decline to the numbers in the table in the center. Uh to maintain the level of service, Midvail will need to spend approximately $1.8 million over the next 10 years. Thank you.
Okay, let's look at some images here just quickly. So if we look at your community today recognizing each of your park facilities what you're seeing in these uh circles are a crop region depicting a radius around each of the parks and depending on the level of facility provided that is associated with a a level of service. So if we take a local park for instance that is thought of as a park that could provide its services and amenities to a one quarter mile radius around itself. whereas community parks u are up to one mile. One of the most important aspects to to take note of are you do begin to see particularly in the u central and eastern portions of midvail gaps emerge and maybe a very tiny gap on the western most portion of the community. This is existing level of service today. One of the things as we talked with your staff was recognizing Medville's unique position, geographic position within the valley and that there are uh communities on all sides if you also offer park facilities. So in order to identify the most acute park needs in terms of prioritizing where you might want to establish or expand your park offerings, we were asked to look at communities around you, which we've done. And and from this you begin to see uh the eastern edge of those gaps begins to be obscured. If we take into consideration park facilities and other communities and again those are very different than the levels of service which Jonathan just spoke to us. We see our gap on the western edge of the community vanishes but still in kind of the central part of midvail you see um gaps remain. Then finally, if we take into consideration uh park and planning efforts that are anticipated to be implemented within the scope of this uh master plan over the next 10 years, we see those gaps
diminish further. Yet, they still remain somewhat just immediately um east of Interstate 15 in the south central location of Midmill on your southern border. One of the things that I will mention is that a significant portion of this project was thinking about trails and active transportation connections between existing amenities to make it easier for your residents to move about. So if we if we jump back for just a moment looking at these two remaining gap areas and then move forward. Um, if this extension of the Porter Rockwell Trail could occur in the future, that would dramatically reduce some of the challenges that those areas are experiencing in terms of access. Similarly, uh, with Center Street and 7200 South improvements as being recommended and which uh, we know you're moving on actively within your community. Those also would provide great access to help residents in those areas move east and west to existing park amenities. So, some of the efforts I guess the point is some of the efforts you're already working on and well aware of will already help overcome some of these lack of service that you see in these areas. In order to give you a framework to move forward in working with your staff, we've identified three different phase periods. And and this is a loose framework. This is not a um 1 + 1 equals 2 moving forward with a specific set of directions but rather it's a framework of within the first two years there are some high priority and re readily achievable improvements that exist on this list. Uh for instance we know there are conversations about moving forward with improvements along center street. Uh medium-term phase in that two to five years. These are more complex projects that may involve multi-phase construction or maybe even coordination
with uh adjacent communities, institutional partners, etc. And then finally, long-term phase. These are visionary goals. This is where you'd like to go. And if you don't establish that vision, you'll never reach it. But they are things that might stretch stretch you to achieve within this 10-year period. But it gives you a list of projects to consider. And some of these which land here like we just talked about some of those trail systems do present certain challenges because of relationships with the institutions who have control over some of those properties. So this is a loose framework to help guide your your pathway forward. You'll see in the document specific uh details about these recommended improvements with regards to trails. For instance, here on 7200 South uh it also includes general recommendations. We're just improving the overall experience uh throughout your trail system, right? We often say that um in order to get people to use trails, you need to create a journey that's as desirable as the destinations, right? And so these are some of the elements that can do that. High comfort facilities, things that make movement intuitive, easy to to do for uh families and residents of all ages and abilities. You'll see the same in the parks section of the document. very specific enhancements to existing parks um as you move through. We've also given some overall recommendations to implementation of maintenance of your system uh at large and we've done the same for outreach, branding and communications which we've heard you talking about tonight as well. And then finally um Zans public finance has also given us a list of some of the potential funding sources and uh in terms of revenue grants etc for implementing the plan. So with that I will uh pause our presentation and are open to any
questions or comments you may have. Any questions for Ryan? So maybe not a question but just for my mental note and maybe for us up here is that sort of expanded map where you showed you know the other you know sort of cities. That's like really eye opening to me because we we rightfully focus on hey we need to do something on the east side but really the north of our city is the real like the real issue as far as not even having something that's accessible. Um,
we drew out the back because we always say, you know, east side, east side, and they do definitely need stuff, but man, that whole area is just like a true desert up there. So, I really appreciate this presentation because I never really thought of it in in this sort of format. Sorry.
Yeah, that's an insightful comment and kudos to your staff who continued to press us to look deeper and deeper rather than just a shallow look at level of service like you may do in some communities because of the unique position particularly at the north as you point out there are challenges to accessing moving in and out of that area um to access park facilities. So, I just want to I want us, you know, we should keep thinking east side, but we definitely should add to our dialogue and and and plans the north because that that is unfortunate. Maybe we can focus on the northeast side. Yeah. Yeah. That whole area. Yeah.
Any other questions from council? Seeing none here. Um, you said someone from the BFRC was here tonight. That's right. Matt Ryan is in attendance. Matt, do you want to join up here? Oh, that's why I didn't see perfectly.
Only um I'll just say a couple words real quick. This is actually my very first uh project I started at was Frontront Regional Council. And I just want to commend, you know, everyone, you know, Ryan and the rest of the consultant team, Adam and all the staff that participated in the entire planning process and just you all and all the residents of Midville really trying to um you know, continue to make your city better and invest in the future. And parks mean a lot and they really enhance quality life. So, I'm glad you all are, you know, taking that to the next level. Thank you.
I'd be remiss if we didn't also mention Laura being so great to work with in terms of engaging your community. Thank you, Laura. Excellent resource. Um, do you have more on your presentation? That that was the end of the presentation. You said pause the presentation. So, I just wanted to make sure we're finished. Some big surprises at the end, not tonight. Well, thank you for all the work that you guys have done. We certainly appreciate it. And to our planning staff as well. It's a big undertaking. We certainly appreciate. Thank you. So, this is also a public hearing. If there is a motion from council to open this to public comment, mayor, I move we open public comment. Second.
Okay. We have a motion, multiple seconds. All those in favor say I. I. Yes.
Any opposed? Hey, this item is open for public comment. If there's anyone from the public who would like to comment, that's the point of public comment. That's what it's called, public comment. Uh, but if you want, uh, step up to the microphone, you'll be given three minutes and restate your name for the record. My name is still Luke Mains. Um, in addition to serving as the secretary for the Midville Community Council, I'm also the chair of the recently formed active transportation committee of the Midville Community Council. very excited to see this and all the work that the city's doing. We're kind of jumping into a train that's already moving, which is great. We love trains as part of active transit. Also love all these trails and things. It's good to see what's going on. Um just want to basically offer the help of the community council, especially the active transport committee with any kind of public feedback on these things and also just if there's any other way we can help. We would also love a copy of the of the master plan if we could get one. I don't know if that's allowed at some point because I think that would be helpful for us to see what trails are already coming so we can tailor our efforts and recommendations around that. So, thank you.
Thank you, Luke. And we're glad the active transportation committee is on track. See what I did there? I was going to point that out. Anyone else for public comment? Just state your name for the record.
Hi, my name is Cali Mc Merry. Um, I'm a resident of Midville. Um, I was just looking at the level of service map presented and uh I have a small concern that a portion of Midmill is being uh maybe left out as a blind spot um because the access across I15 is not being considered for the southwestern part of Midvil. Um, I don't know if we want to bring the map back up, but um, because near the Copper Hughes Center, people cannot cross I-15, that makes that buffer area um, actually invalid. And so, it leaves that southern portion with less access. And I think that would also be something worth noting that as a gap of service as far as access to green areas in those neighborhoods there. Um, and my other question, yeah, so on the south right to the left of I-15 in that orange circle, in reality, that orange circle should be kind of more of a Pac-Man turned on its side just because people cannot cross I-15 and that leaves that disconnect um for those homes there. Um, and then I also had a question of with the new uh revealed the new announced UTA trails network if Midville is planning to coordinate our efforts with connectivity to those trails. So those are my questions and comments. Thanks.
Thank you for those comments. Would anyone else like to comment on this item? State your name for the record.
Hi, Sue Armmitage. Midale Community Council and Active Transportation Committee. I just want to say this is great work. I see a lot of um detail on it and I like the I appreciate the intent and looking at various viewpoints for incorporating opportunities for recreation and movement and green space which we all know is important in an urban environment. Um, good work everybody and I second Luke's request for a a copy or two of that report. Uh, we have some very enthusiastic people on the active transportation committee. um talking about bikes, walking miles, uh kids opportunities for you and and after work for families to go out riding bikes. Um and I'm just I'm really excited for this work and for what the active transportation committee is talking about. Thank you very much.
Thank you for those comments, Sue. Would anyone else like to comment on this item? See, looking over here. No. Okay. Um, seeing none, is there a motion to close public comment? May I move we close public comment? Sorry, Paul. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. All those in favor of closing public comment say I. I. Yes.
Are there any opposed? Okay. Public comment is closed. Uh there is a resolution to consider uh from the council and um just to address one. We'll be happy to share the master plan with you once adopted. I think that's easy enough. Email transmission. Uh oh yeah. If there was is anyone able to come up and talk about the the one buffer area that was just discussed? I don't want to put anyone on the spot, but just in that area that the our residents are showed some concern about you bet. I didn't know if I was allowed to come back up, but uh we could certainly update the map graphic um if we'd like to. That's something that we did see very clearly on the north end of the community. There was less conversation about it along the south. We'd be happy to update that map graphic. if you'd like to for it to reveal what the level of service would look like because of constraints caused by the freeway and its infrastructure. Um that wouldn't be a difficult thing for us to do to update the plan and it could even reveal a additional expansion of that southern gap which we're seeing and we'd be happy to include that in the plan
which I think it would be great. Um if I5 was viewed that way generally I think it would exaggerate the north though because I mean I live in that area like I live on Koolage and we have the big park you know that's we affectionately call the midvail main park I guess and Adam Street park and copper view park you know and and hopefully if the trail systems sort of get put in I don't disagree though that getting over to the east or the you know crossing the freeway ways unsafe and dangerous. So, we don't necessarily use it. Yeah.
Um I just I don't think it's a bad idea to expand it with that in mind, but I I just think it would also exaggerate the Norse issue, right? Yeah. We're happy to do that if that's the request. Now comes the question for Garrett. Um, if we do make that change to the master plan um, as presented, do we need to table this item, the action item, and redo that or can we include that in the motion?
I don't think we'll be able, if this isn't the finalized version of the master plan, I don't think we're going to be able to adopt it tonight. Um, so that is probably the recommended motion would be to table it and potentially even put it on the consent agenda for the next meeting so that if that change is made and council has an opportunity to look at it in the packet, they're okay with it. It can just be approved without presentation. Uh, Nate, does that hold anything up? Adam, right? You're back over there.
Um, is that uh delay do anything? I think it does. No, I think I think we're fine. Especially if if if they're if the consultants are able to do that in time for our next meeting and we put it on a consent on the consent. I think that that's fine. And we'll make sure that in the consent packet we show the uh the effects that that has um so that the council can see that if they have any further concerns. Obviously, you can pull it off consent and go from there. I think it's a great idea. I just want to make sure we do all of I15. That was my only point because it I-15 is a legitimate barrier, right? So,
is that council's all good with that? If we were to make that um if someone could then make the motion to table this item and then maybe express also the desire to put it on the consent agenda. Do I have to say why tableabling it? Not necessarily. Okay, that's all I need to hear. Uh, I move that we table resolution number 2025-R67 adopting the Midvail City Park trails and open space master plan and it associated impact facility uh or impact fees. Wow. Facilities plan IFFFP um for the next meeting um and move it to the consent agenda.
Second. Okay. Motion and a second. Uh Rory, will you call the yes and on this? Yes. Uh, Council Member Robinson, um, Brown, yes. Mich, yes. Billing, yes. And Glover, hi.
Okay, that passes unanimously. We'll look forward to that on the consent agenda at our next meeting for official approval adoption. Uh, moving on to our third public hearing of the night. receive public comment regarding amendments to section 17-7-102.5 of the Midvail City Municipal Code entitled development requirements of the Jordan Bluffs sub areas 1 through three zone relating to public road standards and here to discuss this tonight is the very patient Vendalin Gen Vendelin This is a quite a simple uh text amendment. Um but I wanted to tell you real quick about the uh it's having struggles again here.
Oh, can you just advance it? Okay. So I wanted to um tell you a little bit about the inception of this amendment. Um oftent times in the in the planning world we have a a problem where we ask for something and we get less. In this case, we have, you know, some actions on the agenda still coming where the developer wanted to provide more and our code wasn't really set up for that. And um this all has to do with um the yellow road shown here on the um screen. Um this yellow road is called a tertiary road. Um and um the developer who's working on a project there gave us a road cross-section that is actually an upgrade to what um the code requires. Um currently the code requires um this cross-section. This is just half of the street. Um it's 50 foot. It has a 5ft park strip and you know it's a pretty simple road. um the gardener company and the Wasuch company, they came in and said, well, they believe for their project, it would actually be better to have a road that has a little bit more um either a wider park strip or parallel parking depending on where you are on this road that goes to their development. And um they are proposing this um on top of
the parking that they are already providing in their project that you'll see later on on the agenda. So as staff the feeling was this is a true upgrade and there's really no reason why we wouldn't want to um you know further this upgrade. So as a result um the amendment makes some little changes in the ordinance where appropriate where we are inserting at minimum tertiary roads shall be designed and constructed to the specifications in this diagram. We have other road classifications in the Jordan Bluff zone and as as you can see in the packet we inserted the same language at minimum so that in the future we won't have the same problem and um this in our guidelines for amend for amending the code this squarely fits into number three and can probably even make um you know the point that it could also fit in number one and number two as well. So as staff um we recommend approval. Um do you have any questions on this?
Any questions for Vendalin? So will the whole length be so people can park on both sides? Is that saying or in some spots only? Um so when when you look at the large scale master plan there it's not the entire length you know as an example where you have a curve radius let's say you pull it from Bingham junction there won't be parallel parking or like too close to egresses or something like but but generally generally yes okay and um when there is no parallel parking then you'll just have a wider park strip than is currently required
and five foot sidewalks are wider than our standard ones, right? Um, so nowadays I would say a five foot sidewalk is standard. Yeah.
You know, if if you consider ADA, you could go down to four feet, but then you need passing areas. So in practice, it it really means five five the wider. You know, the three foot you can't really walk next to someone. It's uncomfortable. Okay. Any other questions from council? Okay, I sound like a broken record tonight, but this is a public hearing. So, if there is a motion from the council to open public comment. May I move we open for public comment? Second. Okay. Motion and a second. All those in favor say yes. Yes. Yes.
Any opposed? Okay. This item is also open to public comment. If there's anyone from the public who would like to comment publicly, step up to the microphone. Seeing none, is there a motion from council to close public comment? May I move that we close public comment? Second. Have a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. Yes. I. Yes.
Any opposed? Okay. Public comment is closed for this item. Um we do have uh representatives from the developer. Um if you had any comments um I can't imagine you know normally we don't get upgrades from the developer so I think some of us are happy to see this uh for free that is but if you want to come on up and state your name for the record.
Yeah Adam Langford Wasuch Residential Group as mentioned we're partners with the gardener company on this. A lot of this came out of uh what's going on with Sigini in in subaria 4. And so as the road kind of comes down and heads south, we wanted to actually designate on street parking, but also it was a it was a design item too. We you've got town homes with front doors and porches that all face the road with parking and trees and park strips. So it was functional too to actually designate on street parking, but it was also a design feature. So, we're excited. Hopefully, the council uh is too. I think it'll it'll create a really unique streetscape with the architecture and the road design. Thank you.
Thank you, Adam. Um, any other questions from council? Um, if not, there is a motion on the board. Mayor, I move that we approve ordinance number 2025-21, which amends section 17-7-10-12.5 of the Midville City Municipal Code entitled development requirements of the Jordan Bluffs sub areas 1 through3 zone relating to public road standards with the finding noted in the staff report. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Rory, will you call the A's and A's? Yes. Council member Brown, yes. Mich, yes. Billy, yes. Sliver. Hi. And Robinson. Hi.
Okay, that passes unanimously. Um, very excited to see how this goes. Very think it's going to be a great upgrade for the community. Uh, moving on to our fourth and final public hearing of the evening. Uh, receive public comment regarding the large scale master plan for the V78 apartments phases 1 and two located at 795 West Ivy Drive in the Jordan Bluff sub area 1 through3 zone. bender. So here you see the um vicinity map for the large scale master plan. And um if you look at these two maps we are actually mostly talking about where it says part A and part B. the left side of the screen. Um, part B2 is future development. That's not really covered by this large scale master plan. uh only it's only covered in a way where it shows where possible connection points are so that in the future when when it's time to do a master plan for part B2 so that there won't be any question on how access might work. Um here on the right side that's the tertiary road again that we just talked about and here's the actual concept plan. Um uh overall um this is a a development that has four larger buildings. There are 58 plexes um apartments and then quite a few town homes. And I mean you can see the arrangement.
Um the the side flows quite well here. Here you have a rendering of of a good portion of it and um elevation. So this would be very similar in many respects to what we already have um along Bingham Junction. So it would fit in quite well. And um here you see the landscaping. And then on the next slides here, the amenities. So there's um there's quite a bit that's going to be offered for the future residents. So I I think this is, you know, a solid project and um as staff, everyone who reviewed it had, you know, a positive recommendation for it. Does this fit within zoning or does this require anything? No,
this this fits within zoning. The only area where it didn't fit was the upgrade on the tertiary street.
Yeah, I'm just I'm a little disappointed. Um, you know, the history of that area was going to like a decade ago now was going to be a potential sort of fitnessy center pool thing that bunch of council members that aren't on the council anymore voted no on. So, not necessarily someone else's fault. Then, Real Salt Lake was going to move there, which was going to um really benefit high schoolers and things along those lines. And now we're getting presented with just nothing for like great those amenities, but it's not like the gym is going to be open to the public, right? The pool is not going to be open to the public. So, it's a little bit for people following the process kind of, I would say, uninspiring and a little bit kind of insulting, right? to think that this is a good this is like you know you have the good better best model I I wouldn't even put that in that when everyone keeps waiting for this area to provide a amenities right and um now I know co has hurt that to an extent on the other on the west side supposedly right but you know I don't know if we can say that five years later at this point um so I'm I'm just really disappointed right there's nothing for the public here right um But sure getting a lot of uh you know the tax increment right I'm all for tax increment if it has a return and if it's just generating property taxes well we haven't ever seen that right so the best way for tax increment in my opinion to sort of work is to have a public piece right away and so to add several hundred more rental units which housing is a crisis but I would I would wager if I went over there today to that area I could find an apartment right with availability and Maybe not in that area exactly, but everywhere I've called, there's places, right? So, it's not like a for sale unit places, they want to hit 100% capacity, right? If the town homes
are for sale, their goal is, you know, to sell those properties where a rental does not seem to have that same goal. So, I'm I'm pretty sad about this, right? This area, we're told that other things are coming. You know, I'm to the point where I kind of need to see it to believe it. And this is definitely not even close in the ballpark. It's like you said, looks like everything else there and and I think people are going to be sad, right? Um longtime Midell residents canvasing, you know, my area now includes just on the other side of Maine and they they really don't like it, right? They just say, "Hey, what if it was a field or not? What does this do for me?" Right? There's nothing I can do over there. And they all have to leave, right? Everyone that lives there, they have to drive to go places, too. So, you know, I hope the developers and stuff kind of take that to heart. You know, great. It's great for your, you know, pencils, but, you know, we would like to see this is like right in the middle of Salt Lake County, right by two major freeway entrances, right by the Redline tracks. Like, there is so much potential and this just, you know, three and fourtory rentals. I don't know that really meets the true potential here. Any other questions or comments from council? Okay, developers are here if they wish to comment on this. Not necessary, but and just state your name for the record. Uh, good evening, council and mayor. Um Dave Dennison with Gardener Group. Um I I have been working on this for several years now and and uh you know I I you know I appreciate your comments uh
Councilman Brown and and we you know in a perfect world we we would love to see something like a real um we're trying to balance our you know property rights and and what we can make work there. We actually few years ago, you remember, mayor brought um some fivestory, a lot more dense product here um which um the council wasn't really happy about and in our work session we kind of realized that we switched gears um at great expense to ourselves. Um we spent uh well over a million dollars working on that plan and had to abandon it for this one. So, we do feel it is a better plan. Um, it's less dense. We've really worked hard uh to enhance Sigini Drive, that tertiary road, and make this um a a a true benefit for the city. So, we're we're doing what we can and and we appreciate staff. They've done a fantastic job. um all of staff, we we meet with them regularly and we really appreciate all of their input and their help and and all of your help. So, thank you
and I appreciate that. And I will say maybe I fit in a weird zone because to me if this these were all five stories but had ground floor retail, I would like density is not my fear, right? it's the density without, you know, providing services for the area, even if it's mostly servicing the four stories that live above them, right? Um, so to me, I I'm way less scared of density. I'm I'm more scared that we're I come from the East Coast and we're not thinking of creating spaces that are usable, right? Everyone's going to have to get in their car and drive, right? whether you have 200 units here or 500 to to do anything. And that's where I'm just, you know, sad. Otherwise, you know, I think some people are nervous of just density or whatever. For me, I just I have a different vision, I guess. So, I appreciate your comments.
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Dave. Um, not surprising. This is a public hearing. So if there is a motion from council to open public comment, I move that we open public comment. Second. Okay, we have a motion in a second. All those in favor say yes. Yes. I. Yes.
Are there any opposed? Okay. This item is officially open for public comment. If there's anyone who would like to comment on this item, step up to the microphone now. You'll be given three minutes. Hello, Luke Mains. Apologies if you're sick of me at this point. Um, just briefly, um, I just wanted to express gratitude to council member Brown. expressed a lot of the thoughts I had about this which is you know the density with well from an active transport perspective as the chair of the MCC active transport committee it's a lot easier to have think about active transport when you about walking somewhere when there's a place to go that's that's local to you and so um as much as I recognize there is a housing crisis I'm I'm exactly with Bryant that if there is, you know, up you can have housing and uh retail and stuff at the same place, though I know that that's not as appealing to to development and stuff. And and I think based on my rough estimation of this is is probably way farther down the line than than it's relevant for that, but just think going forward, I I appreciate there's continued pushes for mixed use uh you know, residential, retail combinations and things like that. So, thank you. Thank you, Luke.
Hello, my name is Candace Tarquesian and I'm a citizen here in Midville. I'm a mom. I have three kids. Two of them are adults and I agree, Councilman Brown, that we I don't have a problem. I don't have a fear of highdensity housing. We're seeing it all over the place. I'm actually in that north side that's on the edge, not over in this space. But what I'm noticing is that we do need more walkable spaces and we need more affordable housing. Part of the reason why living with my three children is kind of a headache right now is that two of them are adults. They can't afford to move out. They're not going to be able to afford to move out. And when I see spaces like this, I think of my 25-year-old who is disabled. I would love for her to be able to move into a space like this, but she a has to be able to afford it and b has to be able to get where she's going. And with transportation being difficult for her, that's a concern for me and my family. Thank you.
Thank you, Candace. Would anyone else like to comment?
Again, my name is Jason Baxter, resident in the area. I'd just like to echo a little of uh Councilman Brown's comments of it would be nice in developments like this to see some sort of retail and reasons to be in the area. A lot of this part of Midvail has seen commercial space and stores close over the years and get replaced by, you know, housing, which is good that the housing is there, but uh the nearest grocery stores to this area are miles away. You have to drive. There's not much in the way. There's a few corner shops. Uh, I grew up in an area in Utah where within a mile kids could bike to grocery stores, kids could travel to areas safely. This part of Midvail doesn't really have that. So, I do appreciate the push. The other thing that catches my attention is uh the these areas that are building up right now are in the school district for uh Midvail Elementary and Midvail Middle School. Uh those are essentially walking schools. There's a lot of uh with that growth if if we see children in those areas getting across town over to the schools. There's not good feeder roads across there. From what I've heard from the schools the last year or two, a lot of these areas do not have new kids enrolling in the schools. So, it's will be interesting over the next few years to see what the demographics are moving into these neighborhoods. But uh just things to uh keep in mind for the city council. I appreciate you're all very much on top of it and bringing up those things yourselves.
Those are couple of my thoughts as a resident. Thank you, Jason. Would anyone else like to comment on this item? Okay. Seeing none, is there a motion to close public comment? move that we close public comment. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. I. Yes. Any opposed?
Okay. Um, one thing I do want to add to those watching or in attendance, um, we definitely hear those concerns. We share those concerns. I think the developer shares some of those concerns. Um, not to be forgotten is the fact that there is a linear park component to this development that is still, you know, not being developed, but the plan is for that linear park to be developed in this area. And also there are amenities now um that can be it can be easily accessed from those living in that this area and those who will live in this area um up to and including the new Jordan Bluffs Park next to Zans's Bank that's open to the public and every time I've been there it seems to be very well attended. So like that and also the access to the Jordan River Trail is is right there as well. So there are some things we understand the point of the community is to get more things and more retail space for folks who live in that area. So points are well taken. Um any other comments from council?
So I just like to say on that note a lot of that amenities are city driven or city or will be city managed eventually. Right. Right. So we can control we can control. I think what people want to see is is other stuff. Right. like whether there's a coffee shop or or something that they can walk to dry cleaning or we lost a barbecue place that um that's really killed our our area. Right. So although I agree, mayor, I do think um this residents have a very real um uh kind of desert for anything usable outside of open space, which unlike the rest of it is sort of lacking. So, this area does have an outsized um opportunity for that, but it's everything else that we're all sort of just waiting on.
The first person to open a pizza shop in this area is going to be a very wealthy person. That's what I say. Um any other comments from council? I just hope at some point we can see some sort of affordability component to such a large project. I mean, just because there's more houses, it doesn't address the affordability of them. So, I I that would be a hope for me in the future is that we could see some sort of affordability in in these large scale plans.
I'm I'm also agreeing with um what is being said about balancing out the mixed use with the uh apartments and town homes. We have quite a few there. Uh, and we need to see that we've got some mixed use and other um types of uses with that besides just housing. Um, so that's also my concern.
Thank you, Council Member Malashsh. If there are no other comments from council, there's a recommended motion on the board to consider. Mayor, I move that we approve the large scale master plan for the V78 apartments phases one and two located at 795 West Ivy Drive in the Jordan Bluff sub areas 1 through 3 zone with the finding noted in the staff report and subject to approval of a development agreement with PGM Jordan Bluffs LLC. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Rory, will you call the a and a yes. Council member Molash. Um, yes. Billings,
yes. Clever, I. Robinson, I am Brown. So, I want to make one comment before I vote. So, I I don't like it and I could easily vote no here because it passed. But the reason why I asked earlier if this had to do with resoning is because the developers were right. There's the the notion of property rights versus not right. And so I try not to vote based on what I politically think, right? So yes is my vote, but I wanted to explain that to both the developers and the residents that are here. Okay, that passes unanimously with an asterisk. Maybe a tentative. I should said I because I never say I. I. That's my votes.
Got it. Got it.
Okay. Thank you uh to all those who commented on that. We we definitely uh take those comments seriously and uh we are here working on your behalf. So we appreciate that engagement. Um now moving on as we have totally scrambled this agenda. Um I think that we can now go back to action item B which we initially skipped over because it dealt with those two public hearings. Um so we will go to action item B. Consider resolution number 2025R71 authorizing the mayor to sign a development agreement with PGM Jordan Bluffs LLC for the development of the View 78 apartment phases 1 and two located at 795 West Ivy Drive. Vendeline. So this is the development agreement part that goes really along with a large scale master plan. And the purpose of a development agreement is really to just tie down the development to the code so that everyone is on notice what they're supposed to do and how you know this development will um well in a way come together in the future. a large scale master plan is not, you know, the actionable permit yet to go out and start building. So that's that's really the the background on the development agreement. And I listed, you know, some of the just sort of the facts in the agreement here. You know, the number of units is in there, the tertiary road, um the amenities and that those need to be provided sort of at the midpoint of the project before the 130th unit. Um this agreement runs for seven years which
means if um the development is finished before the seven years then that is sort of the end date. Um if it's not if if they you know if it takes them a while to get to the point to actually develop then they still have seven years to finish it up. If if it's in progress, it could go a little bit beyond seven years. That's also in the agreement. And staff recommends that the the agreement be approved. Any questions for Vendalin?
Is what is seven years like the norm we do for something like this? Is that the statuto? just other that's the only thing I don't quite get the number otherwise I'm
yeah it sounds pretty random doesn't it seven um the we so there isn't anything in state law or in our code that says it must be five six seven eight nine or 10 um I know we have older agreements that are quite a bit longer than this and um the developer had, you know, a number in in their head. As staff, we thought, well, maybe it would be nice if it could be a little shorter. And so we met in the middle and that's how we got to seven. Yeah. All right. Appreciate that.
Yeah. Any other questions or comments? Okay. There is a motion on the board. However, um I just remember today is Vendelyn's birthday. Thank you. Uh so Let's sing happy birthday in German. Now, we'll do that. But we do wish you a very happy birthday and hopefully after this uh motion is approved, depending what the council decides, you will go home and celebrate your birthday. But we thank you for being here for the these very important items on your birthday. Thanks.
There is a motion for council to consider. Mayor, I move that we approve resolution number 2025-R71 authorizing the mayor to sign a development agreement with the PGM or with PGM Jordan Bluffs LLC for the development of the V78 apartments phases 1 and two located at 795 West Ivy Drive with the finding noted in the staff report and subject to approval of the largescale master plan for the project. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Rory, will you call the yes and ns? Yes. Council member Billings. Yes. Glover. I Robinson. I Brown. Yes. And Mich. Yes.
Okay, that passes unanimously. Um, have a good evening, Vendalin. Get out of here. Go celebrate your birthday. Moving on to action item E. Consider resolution number 2025R70 authorizing the mayor to enter into a customer requested work agreement with Rocky Mountain Power in connection with the 2025 roadway and utility improvement project. Here to discuss this is Kate.
Yes. Hello again, mayor and council. I'm not I'm not supposed to Well, there we go. Okay. Uh, yes. So, this is the agreement that we would need to enter into with Rocky Mountain Power for them to provide the improvements along Stag Street. Um uh again, those are the photos for reference to kind of show the power poles that we're looking at either relocating or putting underground. Um we do have a franchise agreement with them. Um and so within that agreement, it does say that if they're um if they are having to do improvements due to right-of-way work or or public improvements that they will relocate the poles um however or at their cost. However, we are undergrounding two of them and so they're um we just kind of have to make up what that difference of that cost is. Um so under the terms of the agreement, the city will be responsible for performing all necessary trenching, back filling and furnishing and instilling installing distribution transformer pads, conduit and ducts um which will be required by Rocky Mountain Power. Um we'll have to do the grading. Um, we'll also have to put in the conduit and do the staking. And then we will also need to acquire all the rideways or easements um at no cost for Rocky Mountain Power. Um, we are working
with the contractors to do the um all of the work required as that'll be required for the city. Um we have um with your approval of the compensation agreement, we will have our final easement for Rocky Mountain P Power signed here shortly. So all of that has been um provided to Rocky Mountain Power. Um and then as far as uh any other services that will be required to underground the power lines or put in the switch gear boxes, Rocky Mountain Power will take that on. Um, so, uh, the difference that the city will have to make up for these improvements is $144,560,000. Um, this along with the cost for the work done by the contractor as part of our agreement with Rocky Mountain Power will be funded through the 2025 street improvement and utility improvement project which um is a combination of sources. So, we get state funds. Um, we also have the main street CDA funds. And then we have a utility project bonding fund. Um, and I'm happy to answer any questions that council has.
Any questions for Kate? Okay. Thanks, Kate. Thank you. There's a motion for council to consider. Mayor, I move that we suspend the rules and approve resolution 2025-R70 authorizing the mayor to enter into a customer requested work agreement with Rocky Mountain Power in connection with the 2025 roadway and utility improvement project. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Rory, will you call the A's and A's? Yes. Council member Glover, I. Robinson, I. Brown, yes. Mash, yes. And Billings,
yes. Okay, that passes unanimously as well. Moving on to action item F. Consider resolution number 2025R72 approving CDBG subreient agreement between Salt Lake County and Midbell City already at the lect turn. Moira looked up and she was there. is the one you did last time.
Fabulous. Hello. Um, let me make sure this is the right one. Yes. Okay, perfect. Hello. This is regarding our uh community development block grant fund from Salt Lake County. Uh, so just some background information. Uh, we have our home repair loan program. That program provides loans of up to $15,000 to families making 80% average median income and below. Eligible repairs are for health or safety hazards, accessibility, energy improvements, um stuff like that. Um the project is administered completely through Neighborworks Salt Lake, which is lovely. And so far this year, we have supported 12 households with a total of 18 adults and 14 children, which is very exciting. Oh, I broke it. Oh, we're fine. Sorry. Um, so this program is partially funded through community development block grants which are provided through the county. Uh, the funds come from HUD and through the federal government to the county to us than to NeighborWorks. Um, so we have been awarded $100,000 for uh fiscal year 25. So uh July of this year to June of next year due to contracting uh delays. We're just now getting the contract, uh, which is why we were asking to suspend the rules. Um, but luckily, uh, because of the contract extension from last year that you guys approved last time I saw you, uh, there has been no gap in funding. We've been just keeping going.
Okay. Thank you, Moira. Any questions from council? I do have one quick question and maybe um so part of this we have the home repair program and we also have the down payment assistance program both um both uh through neighbor works. Um have we had anyone utilize the down payment assistance? We have had a couple we have had issues in finding people who are eligible and I've talked to other cities who have the same program uh some of them also administered through neighborworks. They're having the same issue with just finding people at 80% AMI and below who can qualify. Yeah. Or can afford a home even with the assistance.
And that's always been my fear because you have to find like the perfect person who, you know, makes 80% AMI but also can afford the $480,000 home. So, I'm just wondering at some point if the home repair loan program is so successful, maybe we can put more money into that rather than having money in the the down payment assistance program, which we don't haven't used to any great effect.
Absolutely. We have been very lucky and we're uh able to use a lot of county funds. So, we have not touched our match yet. So, we we have plenty of money available and we're doing pretty heavy marketing on that. Awesome. I think the program is amazing and and obviously it is a little easier to find people who are at 80% AMI who need assistance with home repair. So, I think it's a a wonderful program. There's a there is a motion on the board for council. Mayor, I move that we suspend the rules and pass resolution number 2025-R72 authorizing the execution of a CDBG subreient agreement between Salt Lake County and Midville City to support the redevelopment ay's home repair loan program.
All right, talk to you later. Thank you. Okay, we have a motion and a hesitant second. Uh Rory, we call the A and yes, Council Member Belash, yes. Billings, yes. Glover, hi. Robinson, I pimp yes. Okay, that passes unanimously as well. Moving on to action item G. Similarly, consider resolution number 2025 R73, consent to enter into a pass through agreement with the redevelopment agency of Midville City for community development block grant funding to support the redevelopment ay's home repair loan program. And Moira again,
hello again. Um, so this award, this CDBG award comes to the city just for tax purposes uh with our uh number that they need to use and then uh in order for the RDA to use it for the RDA's program, we have to have a pass through agreement.
Okay, that was the fastest presentation ever. Uh good job on that one. Um any questions or comments from council? If not, there is a motion on the board. I move that we suspend the rules and pass resolution number 2020-R73 approving and authorizing the mayor to execute a CB CDBG sub recipient pass through agreement for HRLP with the redevelopment agency of Midvail City. Second. Okay. Motion and a second. I'm not doing anything with CBD um despite what Brian might want to do. U that's a great football. Roy, we call the A's and A's. Yes. Um, council member Brown,
yes. Robinson, Jeff Glover, hi. Billings, yes. And Mich, yes. Okay, that passes unanimously. Thank you, Moira. Our last action item of our city council meeting. Uh, we do have a redevelopment agency meeting to follow. Uh, but, um, action item H, consider consideration of Midbell city planning with organizations to commemorate cultural celebrations on Midbell city property. And to discuss this is city attorney Garrett Wilcox.
Thank you, mayor. Uh so tonight I come with before you with kind of an interesting thing that has come our way. I know um Matt and some of the other staff have talked have had ongoing conversations with the council on and off about when organizations come to the city and want to partner for an event um or when we are seeking for um organizations to partner with to hold events. Um, we have yet to formalize any sort of policies on what that looks like and kind of some of the guard rails that staff need to stay in with those negotiations and conversations. Um there's been an organization that has has approached the city about a potential cultural celebration that they want to hold in partnership with the city on city property um at at city hall. A a piece of property that we typically don't have open to the public in the sense that the doll conference room or this chamber is not eligible to be rented and uh for for anyone in the public. Um, and so with the the diverse community that Midvil is, staff wanted to bring, um, have a general conversation with you about what the city council's interest is in partnering with organizations when, um, different groups come with proposals to celebrate, uh, or to recognize cultural celebrations within Midvil. Uh this is kind of a unique intersection of a number of different things including uh like I mentioned if we open city hall for an event um there's some first amendment things that we need to keep in mind um because we have the potential of creating a a limited public forum or even a public forum and so if we open the door under certain situations
we may have to leave the door open for other groups to have substantial same accommodations or things along those lines. So, as I get a little bit farther, we'll talk a little bit about some of those implications. Also, when some of these events arise, there um are financial considerations that we have to to think about of whether we're contributing either non-monetary assistance or financial assistance. Um, and depending on the way things have been budgeted, um, we may, it may require us to have a public hearing before we're able to engage in some of those partnerships, um, which due to some of the time sensitivity on some of these projects may not be um, optimal um, because we just may not be able to engage. So, with that in mind, um, within the packet, trying to thread this needle of us being able to maintain control of some of our public spaces that we don't necessarily want entirely open to the public. So, we've already designated some places like the park, the pavilion, um, the community center, uh, the Midville Performing Arts Center, for example. There's a number of places that we already invite the public to come hold their events at and do things like that, but that this chamber, for example, may not be the best space that we want necessarily to be hosting events or things along those lines and the the draw on staff time or whatever it may be. So with that in mind, um there have been seven seven potential things if the city council is interested in exploring these partnerships that staff has proposed or has recommended that the
staff consider to at least put some initial guard rails to allow staff to engage in some of these conversations with these organizations um about cultural celebrations. Um, and at the same time, this is also you're not going to see a formal motion, a recommended motion because this is intended for you to provide feedback to staff and direction. And these are just some of the considerations that staff's recommended. So, for example, ties with the organization to the community itself, whether it's Midville historically or its residents. um some of the same purposes identified in our existing Midville City parade policies of those those sort of connections, making sure that whatever the proposed event is is safe and familyfriendly um and has some sort of unique contribution to the community, maybe through music performance or special or unique attractions. um and that it shouldn't be inappropriate, divisive, um degrading or obscene. Um, and then if it's held within the city, if it's held on city property that is not generally open to the public that in order to avoid creating public forum or limited public forum, uh, staff would ask you to consider whether or not it would be worthwhile for the city to take over um, kind of the planning and execution of the event and allow the the organization to be a partner in the planning. but have the city be able to make final decisions about the location, the time, what's actually going to happen at the event, um things along those lines, whether or not it might be appropriate to invite other
organizations to participate too. Um some of the other things in order to avoid some of the financial um limitations would be to some of the things to consider is whether the partnering organization is willing to provide sufficient volunteers, equipment and supplies to carry out the cultural celebration without the city having to contribute financially or with additional staff time other than those who may already be present. um not requiring a budget amendment. And then if if those other kind of six criteria that I've kind of gone through briefly are not met, that staff then just has the organization either come to city council to propose the cultural celebration to the city council and uh you decide how you want to move forward with it or in the alternative to let them know about the available public spaces that are already there that they can rent and hold their their event as a separate item from a city event, if that makes sense. Sorry, I know that's a lot to take in in a short amount of time. Um, but does the city council have an interest in engaging with some of these organizations to bring um cultural celebrations to Midvil? Yes. No. U definitely. I don't know. Sometimes are you looking for thumbs up, hands up, emotion, just conversation?
Yeah. The silence is deafany. Well, I just I'm So, we've helped with like the Cinco de Mayo, right? I feel very bad with Spanish saying it like that, but I think that was right. Like, how does that differentiate? I feel like I'm missing something.
Yeah. So, we've had some organizations in the past that we've participated with with Cinco deio to differing levels of the city's partnership. Uh generally speaking though that that uh that that's an excellent example of where the city has uh sought to partner with an organization to bring a unique cultural celebration to Midvil to have it happen. Um, and in that particular case, whether the city's involved or not, that that event could be successful because the park is available for someone to already get a special events permit and carry out. We've had some organizations reach out about more specifically holding cultural events at a location like city hall that's not open to the public. And so this is some of this is trying to in the interim until we adopt a more formal policy and we are able to flush out all of those different ideas of what does it mean to SP uh to partner or what does it mean to sponsor or what does it mean to um maybe just support but not necessarily have a forwardfacing uh relationship with with one of these organ organizations in the interim. What is the city council's comfort level with having staff engage with some of these organizations? Whether it be someone as we do with the right now as the city we have a Christmas tree lighting ceremony that we do with light up main street. What is the comfort level? For example, if a religious organization says, "Can we have a community monora lighting ceremony, for example, at city hall, uh, to recognize and incorporate, uh, Midville's Jewish community or whatever
it may be." Okay. I guess the reason why I was confused is our spaces that we do hold that are sort of not open to the public are so small, right? Um, that's why I'm trying to that's why I was kind of looking at you like I I would not want to open up this room to to I don't really know the use cases I guess to this exact room being open, right? But like the doll conference room is that what they would want
that that would be ultimately decision that the city council so if that's one of the restrictions that would be one of the things that uh I would ask that you include in a motion. So if you're so inclined to have staff engage in those that that would be one of the restrictions that it would be I move that we allow staff to engage in these conversations with the following restrictions and one of them would be doll conference room or doll conference room may be a possibility but the city council chambers is not a possibility and
and if one of these organizations regardless of what we do right let's say the Jewish community, they want to do an event at the old um senior center, they they could just fill out the permit and do it, right? So, this is really just our engagement with them like they would still have to go through that process, right? It would just be what our involvement would be. Exactly.
Okay. So, I mean, in a lot of these situations, right, if we say we don't want to partner with an organization for whatever reason, they still have the opportunity in public the public spaces that we make available to fill out a permit to rent the location or whatever it may be. In c certain cases, maybe that's cost prohibitive for these organizations where we can they can say we can bring people, we can bring the knowhow to do this celebration, but renting out a room, providing insurance, doing those sorts of things essentially prevents us from doing that. And so we're approaching the city to see if the city wants to join with us. And at least in the case of something at city hall, one of the things that staff would uh suggest that you consider is whether or not this the city just make it their own event so it can have complete control of what's going on within the building.
The attorney in me just like makes what does involvement mean? Like so worried, right? So, but I like the idea of of it. Like I said, it feels like almost all of the spaces that people would would want to use is there for them regardless. It would be really this building, right? That's sort of the outlier. Yeah. I I mean I I'm sure Jeremy would probably be shocked if we were using the public works building, the cemetery. But uh but like what else do we have, right? Like
Yeah. No, and and that would be the thing is I I can't think of anything else per se. Maybe the art house, even though that's an RDA property or something along those lines, maybe someone comes and says, "This generally isn't available to the public, but for this particular celebration, we think it would be appropriate to be here." As you said, I think staff for the most part believes that the most likely place would be city hall.
And I think, you know, from our perspective, there have been instances in the more distant past where staff would say, "We're partnering with a group." Um, or whatever that thing would be. And then sometimes with that results in is like a long-term relationship where it's hard to like stop saying we're partnering with an organization. Um, because we didn't really do it for through a formal process in the first place. And so what we're looking our hopes are that with the guidelines that we're going to get this evening and then that we can refine in the future that that will help make those things clear. I know it's it sounds like it's a little bit bigger discussion and we could in the future get into a little bit more, but one of the things that I mean if you were so inclined in the memo, Garrett had proposed uh several u uh conditions that would be the basis for us to be able to do this. And unless you were adverse to those, we could just say we adopt those proposals. Um, and then that would allow us to kind of move forward and if we end up with any issues coming from that, um, we'll let you know. And then the other part of it is is is um we'll u be communicating with you about about those partnerships going forward. And then tonight there would be one that we would be discussing as well. So I mean I think that's I if you want further discussion that's possible but that's sort of like if we get that direction then we can move forward and then we can pursue this later.
I I I love the idea of partnering in cultural celebrations whatnot. Can we I I have just a hangup of this building, right? Because I don't want to seem like we're favoring groups or or not unintentionally. Like what if two groups the same time try to book this room or this building? Like us picking that just seems unfund to me, right? Like dealing with that. Like but I you know you your use case like you know the a Jewish you know celebration to sort of mirror the Christmas one generally I love. Right. like um we should be encouraging that even right and partnering with them to help especially on Maine, right? We should I I would love every weekend to have some sort of cultural celebration. I don't know why I personally just have like this building, you know, outside of sort of already quasi government, you know, like the arts council will use it or something like that. I don't know. I keep talking. I don't know what other council people think. And and one thing to keep in mind along those lines, I'm sorry, I'm I'm just going to interject to make one point clear. Recent Supreme Court case law has made it clear that all speech gets treated the same when it comes to a forum. So that is I mean an important point that if we're open to the arts council potentially using this building um there are ways to do that. If we create this as a forum of we say, "Hey, anyone's allowed to come in and use that." That's just one thing to keep in mind of whether it's secular, religious, non-religious, whatever it may be. That's one of the things that we're trying to address with this policy of allowing the city to say there are certain groups like the arts council that we have such a relationship with that it makes sense for us to partner
with them and that we have control over the event and we invite them to come hold an event here at the building. But there may be other people that were saying uh maybe the symbolism or the significance of having at city hall that may not be appropriate for whatever the event is. So sorry just to add to your point.
I don't I like the memo that you have in here with things that you've listed. I to Brian's point though I do feel a little weird about anything being in this room. like I think I'm okay with out there, but for me, this room was so I've I've been part of groups that have rented or reserved uh county or state council or uh chambers. I don't know if it's, you know, tied to cultural things or religious things, but I know I've done that. So, I'm I'm not super nervous about opening this space up because it has happened. I mean, obviously huge process of agreements and terms and of use and that kind of thing. Um, but it is it's something that I think is done a lot. Again, I think that issue is that cultural um piece of it that I think might feel unsettling rather than just opening it up, making sure that we're fair and and those kinds of things. So along those lines then if we um so I've heard the building city hall may not be the correct place and then I've also heard maybe the council chambers isn't the correct place if we were to maybe adopt those seven points and then also add in addition that the chambers aren't available for any organization when the city is having discussions about potential partnerships. Is that is that kind of the direction that the city council is going?
So, doll conference room for all intents and purposes, maybe it even spills into the lobby, but these the double doors on both sides remain closed for the council chambers and then we probably should what then we would build into sort of our rental rate situation so they can rent the room out so it's treated sort of the same as our other spaces. Well, that would be part of the thing is I I so in the past, my understanding is when we allowed rentals for the doll conference room, it created a number of complications because of the staff,
staff not necessarily always being present and the fact that we have an open stairwell that goes up to the upstairs offices. Those those are all locked. um but just what people potentially have access to versus the community center with the sensitivity of those things. So I think the thought is not to create a new rental space. It would be if we decide that it's an appropriate cultural event because it meets the criteria. Then it would be a city event that the organization would suggest, hey, here's what we would suggest to have a successful event. But it's up to the city to say we're going to do it at this time. We're going to do it in the all conference room. Um and our our staff for whatever will be here because it's our event. So this is again me probably thinking way too much we worries me a little bit or the concern I can see happening is let's say the Jewish community doesn't know we pass this or do this, right? and then they rent out the the community center. And so, but they still try to open it to the public, so to speak, right? Like here's this thing, they don't partner. We charge them the the $500, right? And then a different group knows about it, right? And and they have a similar event, similar size, and they have it here. We don't charge them, and we provide resources like I just want to make sure we're sort of monitoring that so we don't look like, you know, there's this unintended, you know, sort of downstream.
That's right.
Would you feel comfortable then if I know, sorry, I'm gonna throw out a suggestion and Matt will I mean I'm looking for Matt's thumbs up, whatever. Those permits already go through a city staff member. And so are one suggestion might be then if that's one of your concerns is that we let the city staff member know we've adopted this loose framework of what the city council feels comfortable with and as those permit requests come in or the rental requests come in that she may have the authorization to reach out to them to say, "Hey, we saw this permit come through or this application come through." um this looks like something that we might be interested in holding for our residents. Would you have any interest in partnering with the city to make this a city event rather than and then giving them the option to either opt in or out? So I I would almost make it part of the application when you log you go to rent and then you're like is this an event in alignment with city code blah blah blah blah blah click here and then then we call them right that way they have to sort of acknowledge it or something like that.
I hate to that's derailing I know I just worry about I hate to part this but uh we will be coming back to you with rental policies. Yeah, I know. I need a texture back at the at the at the next meeting. Okay. And so, um, I think we could, uh, I think we could, although not that we have to, we could move forward with these policies this evening and then as we talk about those rental policies, we could look at making that adjustment as we open up those applications and stuff like that. I like it. I just want to make sure we're fair. Yeah. Right. Fair. And I could be persuaded for sure one day eventually, but it just came out of kind of I don't say nowhere. I saw the thing, but
and and that really is the purpose of the criteria that we have in here is to make sure that we are being
do we have to do like a formal motion?
That would be our preference. So that way if someone comes and talks to us and says, "Hey, we want you to ignore one of these criteria," we can say, "The only thing we've been authorized to these are the bounds that we've been authorized to negotiate from our city council. They formally moved and approved it." Um, I know there's not a resolution attached and that was intentional because as you're looking at those different criteria or even like tonight saying city council chambers are off limits. We didn't want to be tied necessarily to a written agree a written document at this point and instead have a formal motion with the identified criteria that you're seeking to have happen. Um, and then like Matt said, at a later point, we'll come back with maybe a more formalized, flushed out um, policy that we adopt by resolution formally that says this is what it means to partner. This is what it means to sponsor. This is what it means to support. This is what it means if you're asking to use a city building that's not otherwise open to the public or city property that's not otherwise open to the public and at that point come back with something more formal. Um this is kind of there's a little bit of urgency because there's an organization that has approached us about a a cultural celebration. Um, but at the same time, we feel like that conversation with you to flush out those details would be more appropriate than just trying to quickly uh adopt something that large.
Leave it to the attorney to make this motion really hard. So you might follow Matt's recommendation of uh just adopting all seven points in the staff report and then adding the additional condition that the city council chambers are off limits.
While Bryant looks for that, Council Member Molash, I saw you took your uh microphone off. Did you have anything you wanted to add? Well, I was just going to say I feel like we're mixing cultural events versus rental public rental places and it feels like we're mixing those two um based on the intent and it feels like we should separate those intents, right? One is a cultural event that we want to make part of the city. One is like do we open up a space for anyone to be able to rent? It feels like two very separate discussions that we should be having to address those two intent. My other question would be why are our current open or public spaces not working for this?
So, real quick, I mean, I think on the first point on the separation, that's kind of what I was saying. We'll address sort of the cultural events this evening and then we'll come back to get into more detail on the rental spaces because this is really more excluding those rental spaces is the intent for this tonight's motion. And then as we look at that going forward, I mean for an example, we could go through and say like you were saying when we get into the rental agreements that if the intent is for a public cultural event versus a club's get together that is exclusive for themselves. like that would be diff we differentiate we could differentiate that in the in the application um uh potentially for the rentals where we will flag them and say maybe a different space could be used. So anyways to that I think with the points that Garrett has and with the potential motion we would be just focusing on cultural events and not on the rental space. And then on your second point, um I don't remember what so I just agree. So to so the rental spaces probably would work. Um and I don't think anyone is saying that they wouldn't. I think in a number of situations, we've had organizations that are specifically coming to say, "We want to celebrate Midville's diverse community, its heritage, whatever it may be." And they're specifically looking to partner with the city rather than just looking for space. And so I think part of it is the importance of the partnership is part of what they're looking for rather than we just need room. It's more so we're specifically coming to the city to look to partner with them because of the connection with the community and we
think that the we think that the city may share that reciprocal goal of celebrating its portion of the community as well. And this would what we decided tonight it's not just applicable to this building but to any of our rental spaces. can be partners or support when we differentiate what all those different terms are. But it would be when we get to that point, this is specifically just looking at cultural celebrations and
um whether or not because two of those points, right, the only time that the city may wish to take complete control over the event is when we're looking at space not open to the public. there still may be opportunities to look to partner for uh the community center, the emp willing to have staff time devoted to this to help you have a successful event and we want to join you in the messaging and the branding and all that sort of thing because it's that important for us as a city to recognize the diversity of our community. So, it's intended to be a little bit broader. I know we've been specifically focusing a lot on on city hall tonight and that's partially because of that's one of the proposed cultural events is to hold an event here at city hall rather than one of the other locations and again looking specifically to partner with Midell City because of uh the recognition of that shared heritage or shared sense of community um whatever it may be.
Yeah. And I want to be clear, definitely wasn't confusion between the two channels, right? What I'm saying is it's not something that's we've done before. I feel like there could be confusion from the people that get the events, whether it's rental or partnering, right? So that's what I was being clear with on if people are trying to rent, but really they should be partnering with us. You know, I don't want to accidentally have them go down the rental path when we could be helping them. Right. So that's the clarity there. There was no confusion. It was I'm worried about them being confused and how do we fix that so they're not right so we don't unintentionally benefit some and not others. Yeah. Denise, what was your second point? I'm sorry.
Well, I was just going to say if um I was about them not being able to use what we already have available, but I think if we could just define the criteria of rental versus a partnership because to me a partnership is a higher investment um resource, money, um communications, all of that. and we probably want to be more strategic about those partnerships than anyone coming in and just renting. And I don't know if that criteria is established or if that's something that we need to um define moving forward. I think that's what you're trying to do here, Garrett, right? Is to being able to engage those partnerships.
It is. And so some of the proposed criteria, for example, both at the organization level, but also the criteria of holding the event, attempt to mirror some of the criteria that we already use for the Midville City Harvest Days Parade when we extend invitations. So currently we have a process in which someone submits an application, but they're not guaranteed entry. We review that application to say um is this appropriate for Midvil what the image Midvil is attempting to project to its community. It does it build and strengthen the community? Does it celebrate the community and heritage of Midvil City, including its people, businesses, and institutions? Does it also potentially celebrate the events, people, and cultural institutions of historic importance to the greater Salt Lake County, state of Utah, Inner Mountain West? And does it add something unique um whether it's music performance or or uh some sort of differentiating attraction per se. And so those are the criteria that we currently already look at when we invite people to participate in the harvest days parade of saying does your organization do you have a connection with Midvil City and will you represent Midville City and what it what it represents in its parade as we celebrate as a community the Midvil City heritage. So those are the the proposed criteria essentially to mirror what we already have when we celebrate our city. Um and to do that at a to look at potential partnerships with cultural civ celebrations through that same lens.
I'm good as long as that criteria is clear and everyone has an opportunity to apply
equal. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. And so that would definitely be up to the city council with its motion. I mean, that's one of the things that's already been proposed by staff is here is this criteria that we would be able to put if someone comes and approaches the city and says we want to partner with the city. This would be criteria um that staff would be using to evaluate whether or not that conversation should continue or whether or not there's something that maybe disqualifies from us going a partnership route of saying this sounds great. Here are rental applications, but this isn't within the bounds of what the city council was looking to partner with. Council member Brown, have you found the motion you wanted to potentially make?
I do. I did. Now, I don't know how to with uh Council Member Mikolash's point right there. Do I have to say something specific to that? It should be already captured in point one and two in the staff report. I guess that makes it sort of generally applicable, right?
Yeah. And so again, I think to Matt's point, um, at least with what your suggestion was and the the possible motion that I'm hearing from the city council might be something along the lines of I move uh I move that staff uh look for potential opportunities to celebrate cultural celebrations that meet the criterias between points one and seven in the staff report and that the city council chambers not be available in those discussions. Okay, I'm going to try team suspend the rules. Oh, that's right. Sorry. Thank you, mayor.
I move that we suspend the rules and provide the following directions to staff and partnering with organizations to commemorate cultural celebrations on Midvail City property um items 1 through 7 in the staff report less or while excluding the council chambers. Second. Okay, clear. Motion and a second. Rory, will we call the A's and A's? Yes. Council member Billings, yes. Lever Glover, yes. Uh Robinson, yes. Brown, yes. And Mich, yes.
Okay, that passes unanimously. the item that was for 5 minutes that took 30 minutes, but we thank you for it's very important to get that um all worked out so that we don't create issues for us ourselves down the line. So, appreciate all the work you did on that Garrett very quickly, mind you. Uh moving on to our discussion items. We have four of them tonight. Uh first one first two will be done by Rory. The first one is to discuss proposed amendments to Midvil City Retirement Benefits. Rory,
thank you, mayor. Um, since I've been with Midville, which has been almost 22 years, a few months shy of, we have been with uh, what we've called, at first it was ICMA RC, ICMA Retirement Corporation, then it was bought out by Mission Square a few years ago. Uh, last spring I started getting some comments from employees saying, "We need more investment opportunities. We need somehow to be able to pick better funds." I am not doing that, am I? Okay. Wasn't me. wasn't me. Um, at the same time, we were holding some um some courses and presentations on Social Security, Medicare, and we had GBS, who GBS, our group benefit services, is our insurance broker. Um, but we had some gentlemen come and just say, we also offer retirement um benefits with GBS. So, we started to look at Mission Square. We've had some frustrations with them. They only provide their own funds. So, and they charge a lot of fees that we weren't aware of. So, we went through talked with uh GBS retire had legal department look at their agreements. They are in your packets. They are not something they are not my forte to go through those agreements. So, that's why we had legal do it. Um but what they will offer with GBS Retire is lower fees from a 1.5% to a 1%. um it will make it better uh participant experience with that fiduciary oversight. I guess I can use this too so you guys can see what I'm talking about. So that was what we went over. So they do fiduciary oversight. GBS will serve as the investment fiduciary assuming all responsibility for fund selection monitoring and ongoing performance evaluation. And this change relieves Midwell city of fiduciary liability related to related to fund management and ensures that all investment decisions pri uh prioritize participant interests. Um we they also do a broader
higher performing investment. So they take sorry they take the um missionary mission squares propite can't say it proprietary funds and they start using an open architecture investment platform which gives the um employees more diversification more options which is what they're looking for um compliance and best practices they comply with the department of labor best practices so we have u a strengthened cities governance documentation adheres the uh re uh regulatory requirements and the employee financial wellness. So they actually provide personalized financial planning. So we believe this change will enhance the employees benefits, reduce participant fees which the employees only the employees pay. However, you as employees could also benefit from from this, which is why we're bringing it in front of you for adoption hopefully um to to have this change so that we can have um more options for our investments and our retirement funds. And if you have questions, I'm willing to answer them. I would request that we maybe get this on consent for the next agenda. um if you're so inclined.
I have full faith that you guys did this work and research and so I I'm fine putting on a consent agenda, which is why I have legal go through all the agreements. So, okay, Rory, how does this interface with Utah Retirement Service? Utah retirement service is separate. Completely separate and it always will be. This is a separate funing option for retirement. Completely separate. Yeah, perfect. Um, so yeah, sounds like consent agenda for this. Okay, thank you. Awesome. Okay, I want to move on to the next discussion item. Discuss proposed amendments to Midbell city policies and procedures manual.
You can take that off one. Okay. On this, I'm just trying to be quick because Daniel is last on the agenda and I feel bad. So, try and hurry. That's a trooper. I know he could get the full experience, right? I'll I'll make sure to give them a hard time. They'll be the first one today.
Yeah, there you go. Um, as we have issues come up with uh employees staff policies that we need to update, we'd like to get those updated. So, we have two additions to the policy manual that we'd like to have you review and um consider for adoption. The first is we have for our public works, we want to make sure that when they go out on emergencies, um water leaks, things like that, they're being paid time and a half. They're being paid for their time. However, in that we we do make sure they get paid time and half of the time they're out there. If they use any leave time during that week, we still need to abide by FLSA and not pay them double for like if they used leave time and then they're getting time and a half for the emergency time. So, if they use leave time, that'll be taken towards their 40 hours for the week. And then we will still pay them the overtime for the hours that they worked on the emergency leak or whatever they had to go out on. So, it's just clarifying criteria and those um their criteria to make sure they meet their 40 hours. And if they don't um whatever time they worked on the emergency leak where they had to work overtime, the hours will go towards the 40 hours, but they'll still be paid time and a half. Does that make sense? It's a little confusing. So, okay. And then also we had another issue come up with uh prom uh promotion not probation promotion um on a secondary probation of an employee that was promoted and they al always do a secondary probation. So during that secondary probation if we have a cost of living come um to fruition like we did this year they will receive the cola. So we have the cost of living that comes uh becomes available on July 1 and they will receive the COLA but they will not receive the merit until the probationary period is is ended. So that way it keeps them um fair and equitable with other employees. Any questions on those two amendments?
Any questions? Just for you. We should like that on the consent agenda as well. Yes. I read your mind. Thank you. No, those make perfect sense. and I'm glad to offer those. Excellent. Thank you. Um, any questions, Rory? Moving on. Thank you. Okay, moving on. One last item. Discuss the proposed resolution. Establish a time and place for holding regular city council meetings, designate the mayor prom schedule, and adopt the holiday schedule for the 2026 calendar year.
Excellent. Thank you, mayor. As you know, every year we we adopt the calendar schedule for the council meetings for the next year. We have a couple of nuances this year. First of all, I know that uh Council Member Glover wants to make sure that we don't have a meeting on a caucus night. I've only been able to find a Democratic caucus night. I have tried and tried to find the Republican. Their email doesn't work. I've left messages. I get nothing from back from that. So, the caucus for um the Democratic Party is March 17th. So I have moved the March meeting to the 24th instead of the 3 um Tuesday if that's okay with you.
You see that? Yes. So the the Democratic caucus is on March I believe it's the 17th
day. Oh yeah. Um so I have moved the March meetings to the the um I'm in 25 the 3rd and the and it was the third and 17th. Now it's the 3rd and the 24th, which is the fourth Tuesday, but then we won't have it on the caucus night. And sometimes they have them the same night, but I just can't find the Republican one, so I'm just not sure what to do there. Um, the other question I have is we usually have just one meeting in November and December. Are you still good with that? Because usually the November meeting will end on an election night and sometimes when it's not our municipal election, we do still have a vote center here. Do you want to have a meeting on election night or do you want to cancel it and have it on a couple weeks? We could do it the 10th or the 17th. Um, we could I know that with this one waiting until the 18th. We have a big agenda. Would you want to go a couple of weeks on the 10th or would you want to go an additional week on the 17th which is our normal meeting time?
The only thing that I would say maybe we want to avoid the 10th for is the following as a federal holiday. it is. They must want to go to the 17th.
Okay, we'll stay with the 17th and then the first would be or the December would be the first if that works for you. Okay, any other questions? Oh, I have one more thing. Christmas next year lands on. So, next year Christmas is on a Friday. day after is sun is um Saturday which we normally have off the day after. So Friday and Saturday means that we would normally we would take off because it's on the weekend or the weekend the day we don't work the 23rd and the 24th. Are you okay with that? Yes. Yes. Oh, you guys are quick. Okay. Easy. Yes.
I thought that would be a little bit more discussion. Okay. Are you okay for me to bring this back on consent next week or next meeting? Yep. Perfect. Any questions? Rory, did you want to talk about the prom schedule or Oh, yes. I put it back to where it was before. Are you good with the prom? Thank you, Mayor. Are you good with the prom schedule the way we have it, which is Council Member Glover? January, February. Um, Council Member Molash is March and April. Council member Billings May and June. You get the budget funds. Are you good with that?
Stay. Okay. And uh Council Member Brown is July and August. U Heidi Hid member Robinson is September and October. And then Glover again in November, December. Good for you. States. Yep. Paul, is that okay with you to have four months? Yeah, that's fine. I don't care. Okay. I mean, four of us can vote for that. You get it anyway. I heard a resounding yes from Council Member Glover. Great.
It seems like it seems like I've had more uh prom than anybody else, but that's I could live with it. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, uh, Council Member Glover. And mayor, are you good with the consent consent agenda? Okay. Thank you very much. All of it. Okay. Awesome. All right. Thank you, Rory. Moving on to the most patient man in the room. Uh Daniel is going to discuss semi-truck ordinance and new developments with commercial vehicles and public roads and public parking lots. Well, I feel like I have two options here. Either cruise like Rory or do my part to assist Matt's goal of getting it into tomorrow. We don't like that goal.
20 minutes in Cleveland. You're almost there, Matt.
I guess I don't have to take that much time. Um, so I'm here to get some direction uh as far as some issues the city's been seeing uh with commercial vehicles. Uh, and that's if you've read my staff report, it it it's from large vehicles all the way to much smaller vehicles. Uh, the steady council voted in March uh on some adjustments to parking overnight for large commercial vehicles which they passed and that is no longer allowed. However, there's been ongoing issues with parking during the day for an extended period of time. Uh, as I I'm pretty sure the council's uh personally been uh informed of an issue with that before. Um, so that is the one aspect that I'm here for is large commercial vehicles in general, but also there's been a recent issue with the city of other commercial vehicles utilizing public spaces of the cities. uh particularly one that's been brought to the attention is a a a private company I would say but it's a a group of individuals who own a multitude of Turo vehicles who are using Midville City's public streets as essentially their storage for their commercial vehicle fleet of their Turo vehicles which is uh on one particular street uh an officer as going out to a call is is counted up to 12 of their vehicles on a singular section of Minvel uh public street occupying that space which has been frustrating uh to the residents in the area because their their parking or public parking is being occupied by all these Turo vehicles taking up space from them. Uh, another thing that has been brought to the attention of city staff is, uh, on Main Street, some of the businesses there utilizing public parking owned by Midville City to again store their midsized vehicles, their
delivery vehicles and things of that nature. uh and again utilize public space to as a storage space for their vehicles which is taking up that space away from uh you know those businesses and the people going to their businesses. So I I'm here to kind of get your feedback as far as what you would like to see uh or how you would like to address it if you want to address it at all. Uh currently I've been you know rough drafting some proposed text amendment changes to uh as of now it would be completely eliminating commercial vehicle parking on public streets uh and public property public parking lots owned and maintained by Midville City uh with few exceptions. Some of those exceptions, as I've currently drafted it as of now, would be when they're actively involved in what their commercial vehicle use is, such as unloading, addressing things, uh, you know, like if they're a maintenance person, addressing some kind of a maintenance issue that they're actively involved in their commercial use. Uh, when it comes to the parking lots, it would be, you know, whether they're actively doing something to support Midell City. You know, again, the the type of vehicles that you see out front in our parking lot when they're coming to pick up the shredders or conduct maintenance or I mean, I think the most recent example was, uh, a company installing some some lines for a new office for us. Um uh as far as that as well, it would I I've been drafting a total ban on on outside of those purposes for public parking lots as well as my my language that I've currently drafted is is very broad that encompasses a lot of various different uh business uses or would be
essentially considered commercial vehicles. And so it's pretty broad as it's drafted as of now. uh as well as a trying to kind of get a whole get ahead of future parking potential issues uh particularly I think related to Main Street and as we try to get parking available for ongoing development is uh restriction on overnight parking that doesn't apply to even just commercial vehicles but all vehicles in general unless again that they're you know doing something that benefits for the city. So that's what I'm here for. Uh that's kind of the overview of what I've been working on and and I was here to get your feedback and see how you would like me to proceed with the drafting and any kind of input or guidance you have from that or any questions. I suppose I'll allow it.
Thank you, Daniel. Any questions or comments from council? I feel like sometimes people just look at me waiting for me. I I mean you did claim earlier that you were going to make a heart for me. So, you know, I I've had a softball, though.
Yeah. Um, so there are, especially in my neighborhood, there's a certain house with multiple um large tow trucks, right? And if they're parking on the street during the day, I see a smile from someone that knows what I'm talking about. Um, where the planes probably come from. um you know it is a very big eyesore and it's really in a pretty unsafe spot right but like the thing that worries about I always worry about this is enforcement
right so I'm guessing that would be on the police right to you know ticket granted I think this is easier enforcement than like the snow one because you know semi-truckss and and tow trucks and whatever are are easy to spot from far away and manage the Turo one concerns me. That's pretty crazy that someone's doing that, though. That's harder to probably sort of manage and enforce, right? Like, how do you chase that down, find it, right? So, I'm personally in favor of making something pretty restrictive for this so long as it's something we can do on the enforcement side.
Yeah, I agree with Council Member Brown on that. I have one in my neighborhood that is a fleet of a lizene service and um it blocks the road. So we it becomes a onecar road versus a twocar road and we get a lot of calls about that. So I think the more restrictive the better as long as it's enforceable.
And as I've currently drafted, I mean I obviously personally feel it's enforceable the way I'm drafting it. Uh the other thing that I've I've kind of looked at doing and I've already drafted some is making it enhancable. So particularly related to the commercial vehicles uh to where you know your first offense it would be an infraction but clearly if you're continuing to ignore the violations and continuing to conduct that or or do that kind of conduct by parking on the streets it would move up to a class C misdemeanor at that point in time. Does this impact anybody that uses their personal car for like ride share? Like is there a way to
So, and that's where I mean is currently as I drafted it, it it would encompass them as well. Uh it's it's any kind of commercial use where you're using that vehicle for profit. And so that is again a consideration. Sorry, do you have
Yeah. So, I just want to piggy back on Daniel's uh part of the reason he's gone this broad is because the Toro cars are not in the name of a company that it's it's essentially uh it's essentially a gig economy type of setup where you are renting out your personal car on the side to people. And so at least our understanding and speaking with the chief and some of her officers is that these Toro cars aren't in the name of like an LLC or a partnership or something like that. It's in the name of a family trust and several individuals. And so that that is one of the potential things that I think Daniel is trying to highlight is in order for us to deal with the Toro situation, it does end up capturing a lot of other people within this net of ride share services and things along those lines, but we are open to suggestions. We've just been having a hard time of trying to write something that would be generally enforcable that would address the current issue that we're seeing but not have unintended side effects for people who are just trying to make a living as well. I think this would force them to say you're going to have to park in your driveway, a private parking lot. you're going to have to park in your garage. If you've got your Uber sign and your front window or your lift sign or whatever, um it would have the it would have the consequence of saying you can't be parking it out on a public street,
but they could remove the sign and essentially we wouldn't
candidly I think that I mean to go off that too is and and Councilman Brown uh the enforcibility of it is I I think Turo's a little bit easier because in my conversation with the officer that's you know been dealing with this issue it is they're able to locate those cars on Turo and see that yes this is the vehicle that's clearly identified by the same name who it's registered to listed on Turo I I I mean obviously I think that becomes a little bit well quite a bit more difficult when it comes to a ride share vehicle while the reality is is technically yes it's going to be treated the same as I currently have it drafted enforcability becomes an issue because I think it's a little more challenging outside of a sign on their vehicle and again you know that still I don't really think is going to get you to the level that we could actually go forward in court and prosecute that. Uh so there is some other aspects of it too is is is where and how it's enforced of how easy or are we able even able to show that they're using it for profit or for a commercial use. I I think frankly that this is fair because we tell other lately you know for example the old fire station right we have said hey you cannot use this as a parking lot to run your business right like if you know the city's not here to make your balance sheet a little bit better right you need to park your own broken down cars on your own lot I think we should probably ask all businesses to do that that stinks a little bit, right? But I think it's probably more right if we're going to say you can't park your other commercial used vehicles on city property for that, right? Like to me
that's just I'm always trying to think of equitability, right? And so to me that's the way I look at it. It stinks. But I think, you know, if that important to you, you will, let's say you have one spot in a driveway and one's an Uber car and one's not, park your Uber car in your in your driveway, right? Like,
and I mean to add to that a little bit, uh, as I currently have it drafted, is it if it's primary purpose is for profit. So, you know, there obviously could be some argument there that if you have your normal job and because you need some extra income, you know, when you have some extra time, you're driving Door Dash or Uber or Lyft, that wouldn't be your your vehicle's primary purpose. Uh but again I I that's where as Garrett kind of pointed out is there are some probably unforeseen things that you know as I've tried to go through the whatifs of this I'm I'm certain that I have not thought of all of the possibilities that it could affect. And I just I just don't foresee us chasing those down. Right. There's so many low hanging fruits in the other ones unless they had 20 Uber cars like, you know, blocking, you know, a road. Um, yeah. So, I don't know. I I'm still on the more restrictive side for now to see where it goes. We can always change it.
Yeah. Right.
And so much of this type of enforcement comes to us not from, you know, Chief Morse driving around trying to find Turo cars, but it comes to us from residents who see these cars. Thank you. um and quickly identify, hey, something in my neighborhood doesn't seem right here. Why are all these cars all of a sudden parked here? And I don't think it took this group very long to figure out that these were cars from a Turo business um located in Murray. So, thank you for the the work that you did to do that. Um, so I would say that, you know, it's going to be rare, if ever, someone calls to our attention a single lift vehicle that's parked there overnight until they go onto their next shift. But it is very easy for someone to notice, you know, 12 cars parked on Bingham Junction Boulevard between Bingham Junction Station and 7800 South. Um,
just like r like a random example.
Yeah, just random example, you know. 12 cars located there right now. Um but you know I do think the the bigger you this whole um the whole conversation started with you know there's a safety issue with having huge semitrs and large commercial vehicles on our roads. Then it became like oh yeah and there is also this turo thing that we just discovered. So, you know, I think putting this all together and and all of the work that you did and and Garrett and and those before you, Aaron was was big on on the initial um research here, but I think encompassing it all together is great because now it's it pretty much takes care and there will be issues that you know when the next business like Turo that we don't even know about exists in the future, then we might have to revisit this ordinance again. But I think this ordinance um as you've described it takes care of the the core problems that we were experiencing and that's safety in neighborhoods.
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Well, it's the last discussion item of the night. So, we do not have a closed session. Um is there a motion to adjurnn? Motion to adjurnn. Second. All those in favor of adjournment say I. I. Any opposed? Okay, we are adjourned from our city council meeting. We do have a redevelopment agency meeting. Um, is there anyone who would like to have a break? Five minutes.
Five minute recess. Any objections? Okay, we are recessed for five minutes. Right. My shoulder.
minutes, but we are back magically reconvened as the redevelopment agency in Midbell City. Welcome to those who have stayed. This is our November 18th redevelopment agency meeting. Uh we will start with a roll call. Rory, who is still awake? Yes. Board member Micholash, I'm still here. Oh, yay. Billings here. Brown present. Robinson here. And Glover here.
Okay, that is all of us. Congratulations, Denise. You are now in a different day unlike all the rest of us. So, congrats. Um, moving on to public comments. Any person wishing to comment on any item not otherwise scheduled for public hearing can address the RDA now. Luke, no. Okay, you're um Oh, okay. What is your name again? I back here. Candace, that's right. Sorry, I was drawing a blank. No public comment. Good to go. Okay, moving on. Consent agenda. Consider the minutes of October 7th, 2025. Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda? I move that we approve the consent agenda. Second. We have a motion and a second. Uh Rory, we call the A and yes. Board member Brown. Yes.
Mich, yes. Lever I. Billings. Yes. And Robinson I. Okay, that passes unanimously. Moving on, we have one action item tonight. And here to discuss consider consider resolution number 202512 RDA approving and authorizing the mayor to execute a CDBG subreient passer amendment for HRLP with Midbell City. The expert on this topic, Moira. Hello. Um, it's not the right slides, but this should be pretty easy. Uh, your last thing you allow, you as the city council said that you'd work with the RDA. Now, as the RDA, you can say that you want to work with the city council. So, that's great.
We're good. Is there a There is I I apologize. Perfect. Lovely. Oh, and uh we're asking you to suspend the rules again since the contract period of performance already started in July. Okay. We had a robust conversation about this during our city council meeting. Uh there is the motion for council to consider. Mayor, I move that we suspend the rules and pass resolution number 2025-12 RDA approving and authorizing the mayor to execute a subreient pass through agreement with Midbell City for community development block grant funds to support the redevelopment ay's home repair loan program. Second.
Okay, we have a motion and a second. Rory, we call the yays and naz. Yes. Board member Michelash, yes. Glover, I. Billings, yes. Robinson, I brown. Yes. Okay, that passes unanimously. Thank you, Moira. Uh, we have one discussion item tonight, a very um very interesting one. I'm very excited about a discussion regarding the term sheet for a business loan agreement between the redevelopment agency of Midville City and Greek Streak Tavern LLC. Aubrey, bring us good joy. I'm hungry.
Good morning, uh, board member Denise Nolash. Just kidding. Um, good evening board. I'm here to bring another exciting um, business hopefully to the street. Uh, Greek Street Tivera was established in 2016 and they've been staying at the same location in Logan for the last nine years. Um the owner operator is Mario Tjo and um they are looking to move into the bottom of the corner and six building um which will be super exciting you know having that residential and then underneath another place um on this side of the street too where people can dine. Um so this will be their secondary location um full service restaurant. They're hoping to get um you know at least a beer and liquor license and you know have people be able to uh sit more in there than they do at their current location in Logan. It's more of a In-N-Out like faster lunch uh style um Greek style food. Um the applicant has owned and operated the location the entire time that it's been open. So, he feels pretty confident about um opening a second location and getting it into a different community and um you know, there's a lot of college students out in Logan, so this would be a little bit of a change of uh community and who's going to attend and dine there. Um he's very active with the current neighboring businesses and cross-promoting and everything like that which I think really works out on our main street uh with our business alliance on Main Street here and just the willingness to cooperate with everybody is something that we really look forward to um in the RDA. The grand opening goal will be spring or summer, so May or June of 2026.
Um they're hoping to start to be open all all days, 7 days a week, um 11 to 10. And then if things are going well to extend weekend hours. They're hoping minimum of eight positions to 12 positions, a mix of full-time and part-time. And then um a big community engagement push for them. as I said, being involved in um all the events. They're very comfortable and aware of the street closures that we do right at that corner for the RDA events and everything like that. So, um I think it'll be another great place to have local artists and businesses participate with them. Uh the terms of the term sheet, uh the applicants requesting $80,000 out of the possible 250,000. So, not as big as all our other ones that we've had before. Um, 2% interest rate uh based on all of our calculations in our committee meetings. 7-year loan and uh we were comfortable with this as the terms of the lease that the applicant is looking at with uh William Butos is also a seven-year lease. So, it should be, you know, the initial lease will match the uh term of the loan. And then the first payment date would be uh June 1st or if they open before um we would start payments the month after. And then 100% of the requested loan amount is covered by the collateral. Um the collateral is going to be the borrower's personal residence. And so it's more than 100% covered. Um and then the position we've already confirmed by title report just to make sure that we're in that secondary position. Uh, and then the applicant, real trooper, Mario Tjo, is here. Um, a lot of you haven't been able to meet him, so I thought it would be a great opportunity for him to come and answer any questions if anyone wants to know more about his business or his
plans for a location here if this goes through. Is this the bootos? Is that how you say it? Property. Yes. Yeah. The corner at six. Welcome, Mario. Um, I made made the mistake of looking at the menu while Aubrey was talking and now I'm even more hungry.
Yeah. Thank you for the opportunity for letting me come and speak and answer any questions. I'm excited about it. Um I came here about a year ago, met some friends in the area and I was like this is a cool spot. And so at the time I'm like what do I want to do with my future? And I was like this would be a cool spot to try something different. I've been doing the same thing for nine years now and I'm like I need something to be excited for again. And I think this would be a great opportunity. Well, like the mayor said, look, we were looking at pictures of the food. So, we're excited, too. Thank you. For you to try something new. The only thing I'm not happy about is it's like June or something like that, right? It's going to be sooner than June, right?
I'm hungry. Looks good. I said it's been a long process getting to at least this point and working with William. It's been great. And so, we hope to get open sooner. That'd be be awesome to be in by the spring. So, I noticed on there there was tastings, right? I think this might be the first one that's actually brought up Hastings there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Need that ground floor retail and then that shows other people that this is possible and and you and and you can have a ground floor retail restaurant space and and make a decent living out of it. So, we're very excited about the project.
Sweet. And I and I would say I really thought not that we normally don't, but I feel like the presentation really nailed just some stuff to show some benefit, right, for that for us to give that loan like that tasting or just to show a little bit more than there's going to be a food or something. So I great job on the staff, great job on the applicant to to to be a partner. That's if it felt like a a partner relationship. So I really I really appreciate it.
Yeah. No, definitely. is that the the goal in this would be to do something completely different than what we're doing right now. We're like the lunch spot in town and we hit like the marks for like the the place that all the chiropractors and doctors and the university brings everyone for lunch. So, like I want to kind of flip-flop that and kind of have like a place that groups of friends can come to late in the evening and stay open later hours because I said we get our our main business between 11 and 3:00. And so, we would love to grow in the evening, but the the demographic is just not there. Here, I think we'd be able to hit that mark. We'd be able to have people come out after work and have a place to go. And I think the group or the demographic here is kind of what we're aiming for.
Yeah, it's great. The space over there like would you like to max? I know you haven't. It's just under 2,000 square feet. Um, but it's a blank shell. So, it gives us a lot of opportunity to move things around and kind of utilize that space really well. Um, right now we're in that phase working with the different architects trying to get a good plan. Um, and that's kind of what the funding will go to towards a lot of all that stuff. So, is there a bulb out there, too? Can they do outdoor?
Kind of. It's very small. There's a fire hydrant right in the middle of it. So, kind of doesn't help. But I said if that's some of the things I would like to ask the city is like, could we use sidewalk space? Could we not? Things like that. Um, even if it's just like small little tables. Yeah. Will you keep the same menu? All right, I'm too far away from the mic. The same menu items, but we do want to downsize it. Over the years, we've learned what sells and what kind of doesn't.
Um, so we want to put those high selling menu items here. Um, stick to the main proteins, rice bowls, salads, things like that. Um, I really do think that's what will get bought here. Um, it doesn't make sense to do a lot of these crazy outlandish things that people are unwilling to try it. So, I think starting off with a really good menu would be the the goal. It's a little bit smaller than what we have now. I just want to say like picking back on like one of the very first things I said today, there's just such a different level of engagement from us in the community with this sort of mixed juice space. Like, we're so excited, right? And I just wish the other applicant was here to see how that looks because I think this is the long-term right thing, right? So again, just appreciate it from both both uh you know, you were you were you sitting in the back the whole time?
Yeah. And you still wanted to stay after after listening to me rant for like 87 different people. So I'm glad you do. Well, I appreciate it. It's it's cool to have opportunities like this available like because I've been looking at other things in around our community and there's not a lot of RDA programs that allow businesses to have opportunities like this. Um I talked to a lot of my friends are like well how do you get money? I'm like it's not easy but things like this like it gives us opportunities. So I'm really grateful for it. It coincide with Mural Fest opening.
Cool. Yeah. No, talking to these guys about all these events that they have planned and things like that engage other businesses and things like that. Like that's fun. That's what we're missing in my community. So, it'd be really cool to be involved in that. Thank you so much for sticking around for this late meeting. We appreciate it. We will reward you with um several orders. Yeah. Thanks. All right. Well, thank you, Aubrey. Do you have anything else to add to that?
Um, I did just want to say our our intention is the RDA uh is to definitely work with Bootos um and see if we're going to get a lease agreement on that bulb out and see if we can actually get some outdoor seating even if it's very minimal. We would like to activate the street and the outdoor seating as much as possible. So, that's definitely something that we're going to um discuss with Bootos, but unfortunately that's not something that's you know his call. So, and I you know just somehow try to direct people to let them know that they're there they're seating you know in the this way I guess in the yeah the food the plaza and stuff like that like if we could you know act have that used in the evenings
yeah maybe safer crossing situation put in there so I definitely think there's more discussion to have with with bootos as we move forward with this do you intend to bring this back in December yes yeah we want to get things moving so that we can get construction going and hopefully can open in the spring so we don't push him back further. So, okay. Yeah, sounds good. Great. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Uh, we do not have a closed session tonight. Am I missing anything? Nope. No closed session. Is there a motion to adjurnn? Motion to adjurnn. Second. Motion to adjurnn and a second. All those in favor of adjournment, say I. I. Yes. Any opposed? Nope. Didn't hear any. We are adjourned. Have a good night. Such a pretty one.
Good night. Good night. Good night. Such a move. I said motion. It's not a motion. You don't say motion. You say we proceed. Sometimes you're the second. You make the thing about what you do is say
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