Conservation Commission - Regular Meeting

Being recorded by McCann and televised on both Verizon and Comcast. First thing on our agenda is the land return from our land manager, Darren Deck.

Hi, everybody. Good to see everybody. So I think we're gonna just gonna skip over all the budget related stuff. We're dealing with the workshop, and we're gonna address that another date. So we'll just get right into the land manager report for today. So, yeah, there's a lot going on as you can see at Pratt. This winter had a lot of storms. It was a there was a 17 inch storm and then there was a blizzard. And then a couple of weeks ago, was a windstorm which took down more than the other two storms combined. So I've been very busy out there.

And I'm I'm going to go through my report first and then afterwards, I'll show you the the pictures of everything. So and there's one enormous tree hung up that Fran's gonna help me with because he has the big machinery. So there's just no way I could get that one down. I sent the map company another round of edits to put into the trail map and I think that's done now. At least from my perspective, I sent that to everybody. So if anybody has any comments on that, we're we're gonna get to those pictures later. But it took a lot of effort to get to that point. I'm I'm pretty satisfied with it now. Let's see what else. I came across some people shooting BB guns at Pratt in the woods, and I informed them that that's not allowed.

They were pretty compliant, which was good. Just informed them what the rules were. And just like with the off lease jogs, enforced that as well quite often. So over the winter, I think I told some people like the dog waste issue that I was having over at Pratt. As you can see there, I cleaned up over like probably more than that. I have 117 on there and that's in two months. It was pretty bad. I was going over there like at least two, three times a week just trying to clear that main trail. But it and I did contact the I made a flyer about it that which you'll see in the pictures later. I did contact animal control about it as well.

And the good news is that since the snow has melted, I've seen a lot less of that occurring, which is good.

I'm always fascinated with why you bother bagging it and then leaving it.

Yeah. That's always a mystery to me too.

I like to optimistically think people, I'll pick it up on the way back and forget.

Yeah. Yeah. That's my thinking too. Like hopefully, we'll come back and pick it up. But no, I find it there the next day.

Made a dam construction notice flyer, which we'll see later. And just a little update on that project, the tree cutting has started. It started the other day. The DPW started cutting some of the smaller trees. A good number actually, they couldn't get to the bigger ones because of the wind at that time. But I think they're going to aim to get out there We'll see if, yes, sometime either tomorrow or next week to finish up the big trees. So you'll see some these stages going on. As the stages go on, I anticipate updating the map, which shows people or least when the construction crew gets in there that map will be updated that you see there, showing them which trails they can't go down. But as of right now, there's no blockages. People can walk where they want.

The Beaver Flow device, the Beaver Deceiver, I contacted that company, and they're gonna come and move that device over at some point this month. They're gonna coordinate it when they're when they're in town because they're out in Western Mass. So when they're close to this town, they'll come to ours as well. And once that happens, I'll have to go out there to the dam and just maintain that kind of like how we were doing a couple of years ago. Before we got that, we'll have to go in there and clean out all that debris that the beavers put at that at that dam.

But they'll do that sometime this month. And then after the project is done, dam is replaced, they'll come back and reformat it to the new construction. So once that's complete. I created a tick information flyer, which I put in the kiosk, you'll see a picture of. And that footbridge that I was talking about replacing over at that the beavers are making their dams.

That project has kind of stalled out a bit because Wildlands Trust is is pretty busy themselves at this point. And we think that project project is going to be pretty expensive as it is, so it might not even be feasible. But we're going to reassess that in the fall. And I did write a little comment there that I think and Bart agreed with us too when we were out there. It might make sense at some point to breach the second, the middle of the two beaver dams just slightly to lower the level of water where the bridge is located so that it's not always submerged.

Just Do we have to ask for permission to Yes.

Right. We will ask permission, right.

Through health.

Yes, the health committee, right.

You as well have to approve that as a commission.

Just so that just a tiny bit, so it lowers that level to a level where like the boards aren't always submerged or touching, Nothing crazy or drastic.

Aaron, do you mind? I really just realized I should have announced to people what hearings we are continuing tonight so we can hear from them. Don't have to

Oh, sure. Go ahead. Yep. No worries.

If you're here for item number nine, the continuation of the notice of intent for 64 Benson, we're not gonna be talking about that, but we continued number 11, the NRAD for 525 To 529 Wareham Street will be continued to April 16. Item number 12, the continuation of the NRAD for 253 and 259 Wood will be continued April 16. And items thirteen and fourteen for 18 will also continue to the next meeting. We won't be discussing any of those. So I just I should have said that in the beginning. We didn't have to stay if we weren't for those. Sorry. Feel better now.

What's next here? So, I've been monitoring the dam water levels pretty regularly. We've had a lot of rains, last what was it? Last Monday, I believe. We had some heavy really heavy rains that came into work, I went over there. And I I think we got over two inches of rain that night, and it was it was pretty high. And I was getting concerned about it. So consistently monitoring it, and I had some help with Bart. Bart was kind enough to come out and check it a couple times with me as well. It got to the point where I was I was getting concerned about it.

We had a neighbor who I have as a volunteer as well who checks it regularly as well. He came out, and we had a plan to kinda chainsaw that top board because we couldn't get it out. We couldn't pry it out either if if it got to a level where we were concerned about it, but it never really reached that point. And then the subsequent day, it receded to a good level again. So just something that we're keeping an eye on and on top of. Today, I went out there again, it was getting a little bit high, not as bad as the other day, but again, the rain stopped and it's not at a level where I'm concerned about it. Yeah, just moving on to Peconi. Nothing too crazy there. You know, I sent out the payment request to the gardeners, and I've gotten most of those back. Still, we're waiting for a handful, but, that's going well.

You know, I have nine new people coming in. Lost five, but, you know, nine new ones. And so I'm always coordinating with them. They ask questions, and I'm answering them and getting them up to speed. I did update the sign up page to offer financial assistance to those who couldn't afford it. So I wanted to let you know that I did update that website, not the website, but the sign up page. Greg Bacconi is continuing continuing to help me redraw the faded numbers on the plot numbers, which is nice. And another spigot came off randomly. And and it turn it turns out it's actually it was the frost heaving up on the on the wooden posts, which was pushing off the the metal spigot. So that was the answer.

But, yeah, that's back on. And I did spray those fruit trees with dormant oil to kill the insects. So hopefully that works this year. Oliver, just more trail cleanup from the winter storms. I have a really fun picture to show you in a little bit about how this the map that's out there is almost buried because it's it's so deep.

A lot of snow.

And, yeah, I clean the litter there. There's a litter there litter there quite often. And the Eagle Scout, Braden Riminaki Riminaki, I reached out to him yesterday just inquiring what the status of that project was, and he he's actually gonna start that tomorrow. He anticipates, starting the footings tomorrow. So that's good news.

And the mascot, I met with another Eagle Scout candidate, Robert Peterson about a potential projects and I thought maybe redoing the boardwalk there because it always gets submerged, it's pretty low, could be a good idea. He He'd like that idea, but that was at least over a month ago and I haven't really heard back. So, don't know if he's interested or not, but that's a project in the future which might be of interest to an Eagle Scout where they can redo that boardwalk in a way that makes it higher, more elevated because right now it is submerged It's with all the

not very safe as it is.

Right. Yeah. It's a little teetery too, but, yeah, you just balance a little bit. Yeah. Just any other things here? We got a lot of quotes for the Picone workshop. The broken truck handle got fixed, which is good. Just I met with this senior tax they have this council of aging as a senior tax work program. I met with an individual who would like to help out with some of the community garden, food pantry plots and some trail maintenance. So, I met him and we might get that going sometime in the next couple of months.

It's only like he has a maximum of sixty six hours, so it's not that hard to meet and that's by September 30. So, there's definitely a lot that I could have him do. And, yeah, and that's about this

anyone who had landscape experience?

This is someone else from last year, that just didn't come through, but, this is someone else. Okay.

That's great.

So, now

I'm just going show you some of the pictures real quick. So, want to show you the trail work. This is all like the storm. So these are a lot of the before and after pictures of what's going on out there. A lot of this is most of this is at Pratt because that got hit the hardest. So that's just a before picture, some of the stuff that's down and that's after. That's before. So that's a trail right there and all that stuff comes down as brambles and vines and bittersweet and all this stuff that comes down is very hard to deal with and that's after cleaned up. Just a lot of pine branches broke off because they're pretty brittle and weak, so there's tons of those. Oh, that's just when I was like one of the storms, I clean off one of the benches, so people can have a place to sit.

And that's that one over at Oliver that I was talking about at the bottom of the field where that that's a five foot post right there. So, basically, we had three over three and a half, three feet and I was out there in my snowshoe was doing that because that was yeah. That's that's so deep. But that's how much yeah. And so that's a huge that's the huge tree I was talking about. That's a Pratt. And I cleaned out enough of it where people can still get around and under it, which you'll see in the next picture until we can take care of it. So that's a trail right there actually. So you'll see in the next picture after it's cleaned up. And that's a massive amount of tree like trees clump that came down at Pratt which we worked on as well and that's after.

That's it. Yep.

The pines did not have a great winter.

No. No. You see all these trees which came down with the weight of the snow too. This was all over the place. So I've been out there consistently. It's another tree that fell across the trail which cleaned up. There's still a lot to do, obviously, but you know bit by bit I get it done. Yep. That was a that was a massive project right there. It's kinda hard to see, but it's vines and thorns and bittersweet and all sorts of stuff just like there.

And that is that Oliver actually, a tree came down right across the path there and it was wrapped in poison ivy, of those big thick ones which is scary looking, but got most of it most of it cleared away. And that's yesterday. So I wanna tell you everybody about ticks. That's the bottom of my pants after being ten minutes

Okay.

In the, at Namaskar River Village. Mhmm. I looked down and I see six ticks crawling all over there. And they're fast. They're faster than you think. And then there were more on my shoes too, so it was it was pretty intense. But, everybody be be careful of ticks. It's a I think it's gonna be a bad year. It is obviously a bad year looking at that. But I've I've had a few over at Pratt and that was over at Namasket.

And we'll just go over to the flyers real quick. Those are that's the public notice flyer that I made for the dam replacement. I have posted at various places over at Pratt and that'll get updated as trails close. If I actually I think just the main trail will close if anything for for during that project. But, nothing's closed right now because they're just taking down some trees and heavy equipment's not going through there. And that's the dog flyer I made because I was tired of picking up after people. And that's the new map. That's the black trails map. I had to make a color map too. But, so this is the the black trails map with some topo.

And at the bottom, you can see there's, like, there's a legend. And if you scroll down a tiny bit. Yep. There's a legend there. And I'm gonna anticipate putting that up if everyone's okay with it and has no edits to do and keep that up until the dam project is is done. That way it gives less confusion for people dealing with colors and everything that's going on the trails and it'd be easier for me to indicate to people which trail is closed when you wanna see all these colors on the maps as well. And also it gives me more time to blaze the trees and the trails as well.

That'll be on the kiosk at Pratt?

Yeah. Great. Yeah. So that can go up in the kiosk at Pratt and yeah, I can make a bunch of You Are Here locations as well around as well.

Is there a way to put up a printable version of that on the website?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we could do that for sure.

It is funny, those inner trails I think get neglected. They don't know that they're there.

Yeah, yeah, they're hard. People get lost all the time.

Some color ones to Herring Run Festival.

Yeah, yeah, we can do that. That's a good idea. If you can show the next one, the next one shows the color trail loops. So, there's three loops. There's like a blue loop which goes around the pond and then there's an a red loop which goes around like the middle section and then a yellow loop which goes around the bottom section and it all has different mileages down there.

It has the ADA trail in purple down there. We'll have to probably put something to the effect of that the ADA trail is going to be in the future because we don't know with funding for that quite yet. So, yeah, I think it came out pretty good. It took a lot of back and forth with that company, but, I think we got there. And if anybody has any like small edits, think we could do small edits, but, hopefully not.

I think we're done.

Okay. Thank you. Good. What else? Yeah, that's just like a lot of the tick information I put in the kiosk over at Pratt. Some information I put together.

The only other thing on the map maybe, you know how we have parking sort of off Sachem for event only? Be on the map somehow or do you think that'll confuse people?

Think that'll confuse Yeah,

think So, it'll confuse

I think when people come to us for groupings, we can talk about that with them at that time.

Yeah. And we can just I can give them a map and draw a circle on it and tell them where to park. I think that'd be sufficient. So I think that's it for me. Any comments, questions? Bart?

Awesome work on Pratt. We were out there the other night. Thanks. Lots of clear trails. Thank you.

You're welcome. Thank you.

Excellent. Were able the tall people had to duck under that tree.

Of course, yes, yes.

I had no problem. And the map, I believe on our website, the town website, there isn't the old map is there. Right. So we should probably swap them out.

Yeah, right, exactly. Maybe next week we can get that going. Pull that down.

And I think it's the storyboard map behind on that website also, which is the old map. And I don't that'd probably be a lot more work to replace that. Yeah. But That could be a future

project for another intern.

Old map.

Yeah. But But yeah.

But And the map's awesome.

Thanks. Thank you. Thank you very much. And thanks for helping out that day. That was great. Appreciate Thank

you, Bart.

Any other questions or comments or? Okay. Any questions or comments for the public?

Very Thank you. Thanks.

We have a whopping three minutes.

But we could do Darren, is there like a cleanup day for Pratt Farm or any other properties planned for the spring or

That's a good question. Not that not not right now, but that's a good idea. That is a good idea. Maybe for the Herring Festival, can think of a date that we can tell people.

Oh, it's

a great idea.

Yeah. Great idea.

And if anybody ever wants to volunteer, reach out to me. I need volunteers, trail work, or even just walking trails and reporting stuff back to me. My name is all my name and email is all over the flyers in the kiosk that you'll see at Peconia or Pratt. My name is Darren Vazza. So it's dvazzamiddleboroughma dot gov. Yeah, I appreciate any and all help.

Thank you.

We all have two minutes. We can do a little bit of accounting. Do I have a motion to pay the appraisers collaborative the amount of $1,750 This is for the appraisal for Precinct And Thompson Street.

So moved.

Second. Motion by Gerry, second by Bart. Any discussion? All in favor? Aye. Aye.

Aye.

Aye. Do I have a motion to pay VMD SLN LLC the amount of $2.00 $7 This is a release of funds for the peer review conducted at Campus 44, Lot 4, DEP SE 2 Twenty-seventeen 13. Moved. Motion by Baham, second by Bart. Any discussion? All in favor? Aye.

So moved.

Motion by Dan, second by Bart. Any discussion? All in favor? Did everyone have a chance to read the meeting minutes from the 03/19/2026?

Yes.

Meeting? Do I have a motion to approve the edited minutes from the 03/19/2026 meeting?

So moved.

Motion by Bart, second by Jerry. Any discussion? All in favor?

Aye.

Just want to repeat in case anybody just came in. There are several items on the agenda that we will not be discussing tonight that will be moved to the next meeting. Item number 964 Benson Street. Item number 11525 To 529 Wareham Street. Item number 12253 To 259 Wood Street.

And items 13 And 1418 Cowan Drive, we won't be discussing them at all tonight. They're moved to the next meeting. But item number two, the request for determination of applicability for Murdoch Street. The Middleborough Conservation Commission will hold a hearing under mass general law chapter one thirty one, section 40, the Wetlands Protection Act, to make a determination of applicability for Murdoch Street, Map 21, Lot 1411, requested by Aaron Best, Massachusetts Department of Fish and Game. Hearing will be held 04/02/2026 at 07:05PM in the Select Board Meeting Room at the Town Hall, 10 Nickerson Ave and via remote.

Before we start, we have a couple items to just, vote into the record. Do I have a motion to vote in the 200 foot riverfront area map received 04/02/2026?

So moved.

Motion by Diane, second by Bart. All in favor? Aye.

Do I

have a motion to vote into the record a map showing the 25 foot, 50 foot, and a 100 foot wetland buffers received 04/02/2026? So moved. Motion by Diane, second by Bart. All in favor? Aye.

Aye.

Okay. Is there anyone here to speak on this or on Zoom? Aye. You just come up to the podium and just state your name.

Aaron Best, Mass Division of Fisheries and Wilder. So I'm coordinating a project with the Girl Scouts to enhance and create a little bit of turtle habitat on our Tawn River Wildlife Management Area on Murdoch Street. Scope of the project, we'll have the scouts cut and remove brush with hand tools. Brush will be removed from the area and piled into little piles for rabbit habitat away from the immediate work area. Any invasive plants encountered during the project will be bagged and disposed of at the Mass Wildlife Southeast District office.

Newly exposed areas will be lightly scarified with iron rakes to improve the ability of the turtles to use the area for nesting. We have a hard stop of May 15 for this project, mostly because we don't want to be doing this kind of work on top of active nesting turtles. Well, expected to be one or two days' worth of work. And then depending on time and availability, the scouts will be periodically taking pictures from a preposition photo point in the area to document progress and vegetation growth. That's pretty much the synopsis of the project.

You. Krish? No, I think

this is great. I'm kind of happy. The Girl Scouts are doing so much in town and with the river, it's wonderful and that they partnered with you. And yes, whenever you're out there, just let us know because I would love to just meet up and see what's going on.

Yes. Okay, good. We haven't scheduled the workdays yet. I'll email you when we do them.

Okay. Sounds great. Thank you. Is this something you've done elsewhere or anywhere else?

On a larger scale? Yes. Okay. Larger scale to the point of like contracted excavation jobs,

nothing

like this.

Gary? No, sounds good to me.

Jerry? Sounds good. Art?

I like it.

And it looks like you're staying out of the 25 foot area, so you won't be going to select wood. Right.

Yes, we talked about that. Erin and I talked today.

Great. All right. Any questions or comments from the public? Now always our challenge. Do you have an are you thinking negative two?

What does that one say?

If the area is subject to the act, but the activity will not remove, fill, dredge, or alter that area. It is altering a little bit, but it's not

It might be number three.

Three is if the activity is within the buffer zone as defined by the regulations but will not alter an area subject to protection under the act, the conservation commission can add specific conditions in the space provided to ensure that the activity will not impact the resource areas. Could specify that this is brush removal or for certain

I mean, it's really like a habitat restoration project. So we could make note of that. And it's buffer zone only. Not in the resource area.

Okay. Yeah. Would you

say because it's habitat restoration, one, is if the area and buffer zone are not subject to the act? Would habitat restoration not be subject to the act?

Well, it's still an activity. I don't think that's not an exempt.

You're thinking number three? Yeah. Okay. Anybody have any questions about that?

I'm just reading. Yep. Where is it? Is this this on here?

It is. I've never been able to find it accurately, I always print it and bring it because I can never find it. That's me just declaring I'm old.

It's under the, like, admin part if you go way back.

Forgot. I you close the hearing or just issue the determination?

No. This is not a hearing.

Okay. I have

I ask every time. Do I have a motion to issue a negative three determination, with the condition that this is just habitat restoration and and brush removal?

So moved.

Motion by McCann. Second by Gerry. Any discussion? All in favor? Aye. And it sounds scary that we said negative, but

that actually means a yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And we'd love pictures of that too. If you did along the way, pictures would be great. If anybody has pictures. Great. Poised and ready.

Thank you.

Item number three, the notice of intent for off Stone Street. The Middleborough Conservation Commission will hold a hearing under Mass General Law Chapter one thirty one Section 40, the Wetlands Protection Act for the installation and operation of ground mounted solar arrays with activities within bordering land subject to flooding and within a 100 feet of a bordering vegetated wetland and bank off Stone Street, Map 45, Lot 6486. Hearing has been requested by Zachary Farx, Stone Street Solar LLC. Hearing will be held 04/02/2026 at 07:15PM in the Select Board Meeting Room at the Town Hall, 10 Nickerson Ave, and via remote. Before we start, we have some items to vote into the record.

Do I have a motion to vote into the record of Fuss and O'Neil memo to the Carver Planning Board dated January 20 sorry. 01/22/2026. I'm moved. March 10 sorry. 03/10/2026 and 03/23/2026. All three of those memos. Moved. Motion by Dan. Second. Second by Jerry. All in favor? Aye. Aye. I have a motion to vote into the record Fussen O'Neil memos to the Middleborough ZBA dated 02/17/2026, 03/12/2026 and 03/25/2026. So moved. Motion by Diane, second by Gerry. All in favor?

Aye. Okay.

GEP has comments, which we'll read, but we can go through everything and

then do that. Sure. Hi. Good evening. My for the record, my name is Sarah Stearns.

I'm a professional wetland scientist with Beals and Thomas. I'm working with the applicant Stone Street Solar LLC and the landowner to on the notice of intent that was filed for a ground mounted solar project. With me tonight is my colleague, Tom Micolac, who is a civil engineer that worked with us on the application, and my other colleague, Jackie Boyer, is on the Zoom available to share any updated exhibits or anything like that if we need to. So just to note for the record, this is DEP file number 2000217208. As the chair mentioned, there were a couple of advisory comments along with the issuance of the file number related to the wetland change data layer as well as I guess a guidance note on flood zone.

So, it was just kind of a statement as we get into the discussion of the project, we can touch on that a little bit more if the commission would like to. We did also receive a list of items from the agent earlier today. We had a good discussion, went through a lot of them. There's an ongoing review with Carver Conservation Commission, Middleborough's EBA, as well as Carver Planning Board all happening simultaneously. So, I just ask that you bear with us as things are changing sort of evolving with amongst all four boards.

We actually have a couple of plan updates even from when we submitted these plans a few weeks ago that we can go over today as well. So, I thought that I could just give an overview of the project. I'll keep it brief and then we can open it up for questions. Whatever we can't answer tonight, we'll certainly take back to our client who is in touch with the landowner and we can do our best to get everything answered by the parties that we have contact with for the commission as well as anyone the public that's interested in making a comment or asking questions as well. So, in general, what's on the screen, and this is the same plan set that we have submitted to all four boards.

So, we're trying to keep everything as consistent as possible with, you know, along with updates as they come. And what you see on the screen is sort of divided, the property is divided between Carver on the right hand side and Middleborough on the left, the areas that are darkened are the Middleborough proposed work. There is a the same plan with an aerial photo behind it. If you want to scroll down to that, it might give the commission and the public a little more context. There's a lot of sheets because it's a very large property.

But it's yeah, there we go. I think it might help a little bit just to orient everybody. So the street sort of at the top of the page is Fuller Street until it hits the town line at Middleborough, turns into Stone Street. So that's why we're calling it FullerStone Street Solar. Access to the entirety of the property is off of Fuller Street in Carver. It's a paved road. If the commission would like to set up a site visit at the end of tonight's hearing, well, that's where we'll meet and drive in. So that's the main access for this property. It's shared between the two landowners here. There's another landowner that uses this access as well.

So access is in Carver. It will remain in Carver. The point of interconnection will be in Carver as well as the underground electric, all coming from the Carver side of things along the existing bog roads to the north of the constructed ground mounted solar, which you see sort of over to the right hand side. So that part of the array is already built. I'm sorry, don't have a pointer with me.

So if you need me to point anything out, I can go up to the screen. But there's two components to this project. The first one sort of we're calling the Eastern Array is adjacent to the constructed ground mounted. I'm calling it I keep calling it the hockey stick because of the shape. It's sort of an l shaped with most of which is in Carver, we're right on the town line and there's a triangle piece on the remaining area of an upland bog and just sort of bare or barren area sort of at the bottom of that.

That's about three acres total on the Middleborough side of things. The pieces of that existing Upland Cranberry bog would be taken out of production. So this is not a dual use project where the bog would be continued to be farmed, but it would be retired very similarly to what's already been constructed out there. Again, it's a good example on our site visit. We'll look at what's already been constructed and it will be kind of the updated version of what's out there today adjacent to it.

The other part of the project is the Western Array and this area has been been through various iterations. It is currently a disturbed area and really the goal between the applicant and the landowner was to earmark something that could be used for renewable energy on the property that was previously disturbed. So really trying to avoid any further tree clearing or site work or disturbance on the site, but really just taking advantage of what's already been done on this farmed property. Our notice of intent identifies some work within the buffer zone. I know it's hard to see on these plans.

The 100 foot and the 25 foot setbacks are mapped on here. We got the note today from your agent that we should color code them. So, our next supplemental plan, we will definitely highlight that so it's a little more visible. Some of the cranberry bogs out here are also considered wetland bogs or BBW under the Wetlands Protection Act. We can show buffer zones to those as well.

We did not feel any active cranberry bogs. Our practice typically is to use Mass GIS or Google Earth and then go out on-site during our field delineation and corroborate the bank and then have that bank survey located, which is what is on the plan. So, everything that's, you know, active in active farm has been delineated through that method. So everything has been field verified, but there aren't flags hanging in the field at the edge of the bogs or ditches. The vegetated wetlands were flagged in the fields and also survey located and that's what's shown in the base plan.

One thing I mentioned to Tricia earlier today is that in the notice, we have several resource areas listed a through whatever. That when you look at the base plan is delineation for the entire property. So this is a 300 plus acre site. So we did a lot of wetland delineation out here very early on in the process where we weren't entirely sure yet, the applicant wasn't entirely sure yet where the proposed work was going to be. So we wanted to try to map out the sensitive areas and buffer zones for the applicant and the landowner to look at to help site the solar project where it was least ecologically impactful.

So all of those resource areas are listed in the notice. I don't think we probably need to look at all of them, really just the ones that are closest to the proposed work and we can go through and maybe highlight those and pick those out for the commission just to show which series are the ones that are within this part of the site. So I just wanted to point that out because it looks like a lot going on out there, a lot of flags, which there are, but much of that delineation is south of this area. So there's a huge wetland south of this and there's a lot of different series associated with that. You know, As the review goes on, we can even just eliminate those if they're not pertinent or if the commission doesn't want to take the time to review those or include those in any kind of additional review.

What's proposed is some work within the buffer zone. There are some corners of the Western Array that are just barely in the 100 foot buffer zone. They are set back from the 25 foot, but maybe not from that wetland bog. So there may need to be a little bit of adjustment to maintain that 25 foot. We're not showing the 25 foot from the bog itself, so we'll have to take a look at that.

But from the Fuller Pond and BBW associated with that in the northern part of the site, there is just a small amount of work within the 100 foot buffer zone to that area. The other thing that was submitted in the NOI is some work within mapped flood zone. That essentially is a flood zone zone a mapped on the site around the Western Array. So some of that is proposed within FEMA flood zone a. And we've done an analysis to identify the area and the volume for from the arrays that would be placed in that and proposed compensatory mitigation for that.

And Tom can talk in more detail about that if the commission would like tonight or just, you know, the supplemental information is fine as well. I

think that's basically it. Oh,

the one change that I should identify from this plan set is that you'll see sort of to the right of the wetland bog, the green bog in the center of the site is where a battery pad battery storage pad was located. This has moved several times. Since our last round of hearings that we've been going to, as I mentioned several other boards, that has actually been relocated due to several factors. One,

trying

to keep it away from wetland resource areas and as well as the residential abutters on this part of the site. This is a huge site. The only abutters that are here really up in that corner. So just trying to find a space that is more central to the property. So it's away from buffer zones as well as residences or public ways. So where it's proposed currently and we'll be submitting this with updated plans is on the just on the Carver side of the line in sort of the blade.

Could you take the microphone and just point that into the Yeah.

Is this wireless?

Yep. You can do it.

Yep. Bring it right over.

Okay. I might go over here because I don't think I can reach that. Good point. So

it is shown here can you hear me okay?

It is shown here on the plans that you have that have been submitted, but it's actually being really relocated to the center of this portion of the ray of Ray. As I said, just because it then it's surrounded by the project itself. It's outside of buffer zones. It's really central in the in the center of the property. So it's really not visible and in a place where it's not reachable.

I think it makes things a little more complicated for the array set up itself, but we think this is probably the best location for it. So that'll be forthcoming. I think that's really the only substantive change since these plans were submitted. This is an equipment pad within this array to have to house equipment for the array itself, but no battery storage proposed over there. I believe everything else is the same, but we will continue to keep everyone updated with any changes that are being discussed amongst the boards.

We're trying to do that through the town's peer review engineer, Fussen O'Neil, who's looking at the project for both the Middleborough ZBA as well as Carver Planning Board. So and you received the letters that I heard you read into the record. So things are progressing on that end as well and both conservation commissions will be updated with those plans and we'll continue for further discussions on that. I'll pause there and take questions or continue the conversation.

So, as Sarah said, we had a lengthy Teams call today. It was about an hour going through in my comments, kind of my list of comments and questions are within Dropbox if you want to look at it. I didn't update it since our conversation, but they're going to respond, and make edits in things. I saw some we talked about some consistencies that needed to happen, between the notice of intent in the plans and stormwater in the plans. And so I think we had a very fruitful conversation.

And I I just said, you know, come do the presentation. This is the first hearing. Obviously, we're not gonna be done tonight, and we'll set up a site visit. I'm sure all of you want to go see it. I've been to the site. I went to the site last summer with the owner. He was he wanted to ask questions about possibility of doing some some work there related to the bogs. I didn't know about the solar yet, but I am familiar with the site.

So

the Western Array is going

where a current bog is? There were historically some bogs there. My understanding and again, I'm I don't work directly with the landowners. So the applicant, the solar developer is coordinating with him directly. My understanding is that those areas had some bugs there, and he has been working on them and trying to decide what to do going forward.

I prefer not to interpret. I think we can probably just talk to the landowner and the applicant about what has transpired there and sort of the history of the site on our sidewalk and or at our next hearing. So I think it's probably best it's his property, it would probably best be best for him to talk to the commission about his thinking about what you know, has been out here and what the plan is for it.

So where the Western Array is planned, is that where the 2008 earth removal permit was granted for?

I'm not sure. We have to look into that a little bit more. I think Jackie from your office was going to be contacting the Select Board's office to get that full application. Because it

looked like

It was the same yes, go ahead.

I was going say, it looked like they had been the land owner had been sent a letter that the permit was expiring. I didn't see that I came in to renew it or to extend it.

Right. And I'm not aware that it was. But this was that earth removal was at the same time that the commission had issued an order of conditions back thousand and eight.

For Cranberry Bog?

For Cranberry Bog and I'm not sure if it is for this section or another section of the property.

So the current conditions of the site when you say they're disturbed, is that because it has been dug out for Cranberry Bog even if it on an active

I don't know what the elevation is. I don't know if it was bog level and it's still bog level or if there was a change in that elevation. So I just can't really speak to it.

I mean, I'm guessing that it is because you have like the drawing, the ramp from the Bog Road into

Old Yeah.

It's at a pretty severe angle, so I'm guessing it's already dug out. Yeah. Are you if it's dug out, are you planning to fill it in?

No. No. The idea is just to limit the site work on the site and use the existing grades and topography as much as possible. And that whole area is

in a flood zone? It is. And you have neighbors pretty close?

Yes. That's

all I have for right now.

Do you want to go over the DEP comments?

Whatever you want to do is fine.

Let me go back and read the DEP comments out loud. Is that better? Carrie?

I have a lot of questions, but what is the significance of the battery pad area and why it would have to be moved further from a butters and wetlands? Like what impact would such a thing have on people and the environment?

Ideally none, but I think the preference would be to put it in an area where there would just be less risk. And I think there's been a lot of feedback at the hearings that we've been to so far that you've got a huge amount of land. Why do you have to be right on top of the wetland or right on top of the neighborhood? So I think that just taking that feedback and trying to find somewhere else on the property to place that.

So is it just the materials contained within the batteries or is there an electric field?

No. Mean, it Are there buzzing noises that are constantly There are it's a as I understand it, it's a typically a self contained unit.

Mhmm.

So with there are some fans that, you know, come on intermittently for cooling. So, like, I mean, the like a fan in your bedroom kind of thing, refrigerator type level noise, but, you know, not offensive. But again, why when you have 300 acres have it anywhere in that area? Mhmm. And it's on a concrete pad and it's essentially a closed container. But that's, you know, again, trying to hear the feedback and find a place that's amenable to all.

Okay.

That's all for now. Okay.

Jerry? I have a question. Bart?

Bart? Just one question. The equipment pad in the Western Array area, what type of equipment will that be? Is that like construction equipment? Is that mean what

can't really

what we stored there?

Yes, I can't really speak to it specifically, but it's the operational equipment for the array itself. I can get you some more information on that. I think we're actually we've been asked by the peer reviewer to detail what's on the equipment pad, so we'll submit with our next plan. So you'll have that.

Thank you.

Okay. So the DEP comments, although a file number is being issued, please note the following. Conservation Commission, the Mass DEP wetland change database indicates there are wetland changes on a portion of the project site map 45, Lot 6486, W C 2 Dash 182 Dash 12, and W C 3 C Dash 182 Dash 23. Please investigate the status of these wetland changes and whether they are authorized by a local order of conditions. The wetland change areas are available for you for review on the Mass GIS website.

Please be advised to the extent of border to the extent of border rearing land subject to flooding is not limited to mapped FEMA flood zones or flood zones where no BFE or NFIP flood profile data is available. Conservation Commission and opponent are advised to review 310CMR10.572A3. So the wetland changes?

Yeah. I don't know if you have that handy, Tricia, the wetland change. Did you see you printed it? There are some the wetland change data layer is on mass mapper. Oh, yes.

And found out recently actually that when DEP receives a filing, they pick a latitude and longitude for project site and then this automatically populate. So it's not reviewed by a DEP reviewer at the Southeast Region. It just sort of is what is mapped on there. So you can see that they're correlated to some rough dates. I have found that on BOG properties, these little slivers that show up from photogrammetry reviews tend to be related to some sort of agricultural update or change.

We'll find out if the landowner has any further information on that and report back to the commission. I don't have that information now, but my suspicion is that, you know, they rebuilt a road or they changed, you know, added a dike or something like that and that's what showed up on the mapping. This is just from aerial photos, so a lot of the time it's not completely accurate. So we'll check into it and get back to you.

So we'll be setting up

a site visit. We

can do that tonight if you want.

There's nothing we're not waiting for them to do anything for us to go out beforehand, we can just Right. I'm not good this weekend, but I'm fine the next. It doesn't have to be on my schedule, but or after work is fine.

Yeah, it's not as dark early anymore.

Yeah. So currently, we have a site visit scheduled for Wednesday, April 8 at 05:30 at 18 Cowan Drive. Just FYI about that. And I have Carrie and Art are coming. What's that?

I'm coming.

Okay. I didn't know if you got my text. I didn't. You did?

I was gonna

ask you about that because you sent me a text. It's just me.

Yeah. Me too.

That's fine.

Really? It was. I didn't

know about it back then.

So I didn't know if

you had switched up

the format or something. I thought it was just me. You do.

I'm just Like, I don't know what this thing is doing. Oh, that's

You didn't get a needle on.

No. Yeah. Because I send, like, I send, like, whole bunch.

Maybe that's why nobody responds.

Yeah. No. I didn't get yeah. Nothing. That's Nonetheless, I'm going on the eighth of my thirties.

Yeah. I have

a bunch

of you on this text. Like, you're included. Did you change your your phone? That is came

to me was not a group text. It was just, like, you texting me.

Is That's a one-sided conversation.

That's how I get them individually. But it

wasn't always like that. Maybe you have reestablished the group.

Maybe I'll just yeah. Okay. Sorry.

So the eighth. The eighth, busy. Anyways, sorry

about that. So that night, we're doing that. It's gonna be a good one. So it's probably that only. But then Thursday, the ninth? Yep, we could do that. Does that work, you think? We'll

be we're flexible for whatever works.

Thursday the ninth? She can't

do Thursday the ninth, but can do six or seven.

Oh, yeah, can't it.

No. No. Well, what time?

Anytime.

On the ninth.

Can you do the seventh?

I can't do the ninth.

Don't know if I'm doing a normal light out until seven. Oh, the seventh.

On the seventh. Oh,

on the

seventh. Seven.

Tuesday the seventh.

Oh, Tuesday the

seventh. I

got Westin. I

I can can do that.

I got Westin for it. Jerry's got Westin also.

What about Monday?

East on Monday?

Yeah. East on Monday?

I'm good on Monday.

I'm Monday.

I'm good on Monday.

Monday has it. Monday? Are you good on Monday?

Yeah. Okay. You wanna do 05:30?

Monday, 05:30.

Okay. Are you good on Monday, 05:30? Yes. Monday,

05:30?

No. Monday, the sixth

at 05:30. So does everyone know where it is, the entrance?

Yeah. No. But if you can text that email that.

Okay. I usually use 96 Fuller Street in in Carver. Yeah. And there's a sign at the end of the driveway that says Carver Middleborough Cranberry Company. And it's it's pretty wide open, and we can just whoever gets there first can just sort of barely pull in, so everyone knows where to pull in. Can just park there and walk in.

Okay. Great.

Okay. Let's hold. Any questions or comments from the public? Great. If you just come up to the podium and just state your name and address.

Good evening. My name is Mark Pansioco. I live at 31 Stone Street. That bog in question is 125 feet from my deck. It's right there. And I want to clear up one other thing. That's a that bug, we my wife and I, that our house has no buffer behind it. It's just the bug. And we just endured four and four years of Mr. Nori rebuilding that bug.

It was planted last August. It was rebuilt on the he mined sand from around the corner for two years to put in there. He put a full irrigation system and then late last summer, a crew of people came in and hand planted those cranberries. And it's flooded right now, but when it wasn't flooded earlier this week, it's thrive it will be a thriving bog. It's not a dormant piece of property that has been ignored.

It's been worked on for four years. We've had dump trucks the size of our house in basically in our backyard off and on for four years while he did that work. So want to clear that up. It's not a dormant piece of land that was abandoned for the last fifteen years. If I could approach you, I just want to show you something. Is that all right? This is what we see when we sit on that deck.

And we're talking about the Western Array, that larger one. Okay.

That's what we see.

That's where he's putting

it in our backyard.

And that's flooded right now?

So I just wanted

to say that I wanted to clear about the inaccuracy of what the blog is. I had to do the same thing for the Zoning Board. It's an active property. I that has nothing to do with anything, but I just don't like hearing misinformation. And you're going to my house when you do your site visit, our house is the only house you're really going to see. It's right there on the bog. Everybody else has a buffer for the most part. And I just wanted to say again that I don't understand why the man would spend four years building that Cranberry bog just to turn it around and put solar panels on it.

Have you gone to the zoning board meetings as well?

Yes, I've been to all

of them. In terms of

asking for a buffer too, I mean, that's something you can

They did agree to move the panels 150 feet further from us. But

Just making sure to check all bases, that's all.

What's that?

Just making sure you check all bases and go to all.

Yes, we're going to all the zoning board meetings, yes. That's all I have. Thank you.

Thank you. Any other questions or comments from the public? Oh, just come up here and just state your name. You just need to be at the podium and just state your

name and address. 17 Stone Street, Kristin Cobb. Just to to bring up some things, we do have a nice walk to out back where it's gonna be. It's hard to explain. There is a wetland conservation starting between nineteen Stone Street going towards Wall Street from the road all the way back to the property that is red showing.

Mhmm. And he showed you that bog. If you're standing in the bog to the left to the left, you'll go to my property, some other neighbor's property. They tore down into the wetlands. That water that I'm telling you, they they took trees down and they ripped up, and it's dormant right now.

Do you know when that was?

It was last it was during the process. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

So

we have a lot of wildlife. We have turtles that come up and lay eggs, and they're they're not snappers. And we all have wells too. So that's a big concern for us too. But again, they they did. They knocked down and I literally asked one of the workers because we take walks out there last year. Oh, what are you planning over there? Oh, I don't know. And I'm like, oh, a bog? We don't know.

So that has been torn down and that is wetland in there. So that's a concern for us. Who tore it down? What?

Who tore it down?

The bog owner.

Okay.

Is that something that was reported to conservation at the time? I don't know. Did any of the neighbors report that the wetlands have been disturbed back in October?

No, we didn't. Don't remember. I don't recall that being reported to the office.

Just checking. Just not an accusation. Just checking. Yeah. Yeah. To know what fact

Yeah. Cancel. But the red line shows that that's where they wanna put solar panels too. So I'm just concerned of the water. All the way now. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know if you wanna No. Anything else?

I mean, Lynn Hessian. I'm 31 Stone Street. And I just have pictures from Monday when they proceeded to partially flood the bogs, and you can see where all the plants are growing that they planted. When they told us they were all gonna make a big 18 acre bog, and they brought in, they had the sand and everything. He put all new irrigation in, and he took out a ton of trees to make the road wider.

Did that. And then I get pictures from standing there where the solar panels are going to be and what it's looking like for our houses. And it's just they won't push them any further back. We asked for them, Mark, they said they'll push them back 150 feet and that's still not

enough. That's why we're

doing a site visit too. Makes much more sense for us when you see it person.

Oh, yeah. And then please just come down and stand because I mean I could show you right now with the pictures I took on Monday with my phone because when they came out and they I heard the trucks, they drove by, one drove by. I happened to be working from home that day. And I went, what are they doing? And they went out and they put the pumps on and proceeded to start to partially flood them. Didn't flood them all, just partially flooded them. So that was kind of interesting. And that's

this

picture here is obviously that's Mark's house. And I was standing about where they're going to put the panels from his house. And then my house stand and you can see there. I mean, we have a little bit of trees, so during the summer they fell in, but during the winter it's a mess.

So

there's a lot of shady stuff going on. That's my opinion.

Thank you for coming. Anybody else? Sure. You could just come up and state your name, because everything's recorded so people at home know what's going on. Then, yeah, I'd be glad to look.

Hi. My name's Amy Pansioco.

I'm also 31 Stone Street. Great. You can see here's the wetland and up here on the small

trees. I'm just confused. Where that is on the Is it where the big array Can you

point up there where you saw the trees getting?

Okay.

It's not those other bogs back there?

Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

Anybody else want

to see? I'd like to see.

It doesn't hurt. We'll be there too. But yeah, you want to email those pictures in, it's great.

We have other pictures where they have how far

Maybe some reason you'll see it when we go. Yeah, I know. They were

big, you know, cement around things that they usually Fill the pipes. They were there when my kids were young. Oh, boy. Like, you could never see them anymore. They were they were had to be out at least 10 people, four more trees. Yeah. All that came out too.

So we'll definitely check it out when we go out there on Monday.

Are there stumps there? So they pulled the stumps up.

We just have to

be a little

bit careful about conversations that because it's recorded. If you wouldn't mind being at the podium just to make sure that everyone can hear the conversation. That's all. Okay.

So if you wanna send us any pictures, you can definitely email them in, and we'll consider those.

Definitely email it to us. When did you find it? Email it to us.

Good. Since October. Okay. Yeah. If

you'll send that into the department, that would be

Yeah,

and then we can have it on record. Yep. So

That would be great. Thank you.

Does she need the email to send us?

If you call the conservation office, they can send you the rather than writing an email here. If you call the conservation office, they can arrange, tell you emails and stuff to get that to us. And I know we had a comment. I don't think this was any of these abutters that were here, but we had a an abutter concern that they wanted to ask about, on the battery storage component. Partially answered that.

Is this contained? What prevents it from leaking into the aquifer? What does say? If there is an issue, what prevents it leaking into the aquifer? One of the abutters that is not present tonight. Don't have it. I have notes from the office.

You're welcome. Okay.

So we're going to continue the hearing to the next meeting or does it need to be further out further things? We could always roll it. Okay. Okay. And we'll see you on Monday the sixth at 05:30. Great. Do I have a motion to continue the hearing to the sixteenth. Sixteenth. April 16 meeting.

So moved.

Motion by Bart, second by Jerry. All in favor? Aye.

Thank you very much.

Item we're past that. Item number number four, the request for determination of applicability for 321 Wareham Street. Maybe please add the Middleborough Conservation Commission will hold a hearing under Mass General Law chapter one thirty one section 40, the Wetlands Protection Act, to make a determination of applicability for 03/2092, requested by Craig Gillis. Hearing will be held 04/02/2026 at 07:30PM in the Select Board Meeting Room at the Town Hall, 10 Nickerson Ave. And via remote.

Okay. Anybody here for that? Hey there. Hi. Hi.

How are

you doing?

Good. How are you?

So my name is Bob Forbes. I'm Zenith Consulting Engineers. This is we're almost able to do everything outside the 100 foot buffer here. 321 Wareham Street, as you stated, it's there's two buildings on the property. One of them is a single family, the other one is a multifamily.

Septic system is failing. So this is simply for a septic system repair. Essentially, the only things that not essentially, the only things within the 100 foot buffer is the small section of pipe from the single family building to the septic tank and then a portion of the tank is also in the 100 foot buffer. We moved the septic system the previous septic system was within the 50 foot buffer to the wetlands and now it's moved well outside the 100 foot buffer. We've essentially moved it as far away from the wetlands as we could possibly move it. We do show silk sock for erosion control.

Excuse me, would you mind with the conversations if you wouldn't

mind taking them out to the hallway just so

we can concentrate on that one? Sorry. Thank you. No, you're fine. Thank you. All right, sorry.

No, no problem. I'm so bad when there's background noise I So hear, yes, we do show some silk sock for erosion control. It's very flat in front of that where we're putting that pipe in that septic tank and it kind of flows away from the wetlands, but it's very flat there. So we put in this silt sock anyway just for safety purposes.

I

just had a question if the health department approved this

yet? I don't know the answer to that. I don't know if they've approved it yet.

Okay. And then I haven't been able to go out there just to kind of verify where the wetlands are. It looks like they're just by GIS?

Yes. From when Niles went over this with me today, he said it's unbelievably dense and thick vegetation. So it's very likely you're going to have difficulty, if not impossible, task to get back there.

Okay.

I wonder, Trish.

All right.

And since there was so minimal impact, that's why we proposed

Yes.

It's pretty far away.

Yes.

Okay. All right.

That's all I have.

Diane? No questions. Carrie?

No. This is the property on the corner of Weigham and East Grove,

right? Yes. You can almost

see in the corner, you can see Weigham branching off.

Well, I think it would be an improvement to the property. So I don't have any questions.

No questions.

Bart? No questions. Okay. It still makes sense to try I mean, to look at it rather than taking word, it does make sense to have Trish at least try to look at it.

I'm sorry.

It makes sense to have Trish at least try to look at it. Oh yeah,

absolutely. There's no problem.

If we continue Yeah. Okay. So do I have a motion to continue this hearing to the April 16 meeting?

So moved.

Motion by Bart, second by Diane. All in favor? Aye. Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Item number five, the notice of intent for March. The Middleborough Conservation Commission will hold a hearing under Mass General Law chapter one thirty one section 40, the Wetlands Protection Act for work associated with the clearing oh, sorry, the construction of a single family house including utilities, driveway, grading, tree clearing, and landscaping within a 100 feet of a bordering vegetated wetland at 304 Wood Street, Map 52, Lot 1733. Hearing has been requested by Brandon Wojt. I'm probably mispronouncing that. Hearing will be held 04/02/2026 at 07:40PM in the Select Board Meeting Room at the Town Hall 10 Nickerson Ave and via remote.

Do I have a motion to vote into the record of revised plans dated 03/25/2026?

So moved.

Motion by Diane, second by Bart. All in favor? Aye. We have a note that we sent the tax form upstairs on March 30. We don't have it back or do okay. So we don't know that part. Anyone here for So

once again, Bob Forbes from Zenith Consulting Engineers. This is an existing wooded lot. It's been subdivided in this particular lot that we're working on as a retreat lot. You can see the long throat to the back land there. And what's proposed here is a single family dwelling.

So if you look at the plans, you can see that the house and the septic leaching field and almost all of the driveway outside the 100 foot buffer, the small corner of the driveway that is within the 100 foot buffer. And that's essentially why we're here. And you may be curious as to why we're showing an infiltration basin stormwater controls for a single family house lot. But there are you may be aware that there are two Form A lots out by the street, one on either side of this proposed driveway. And there's this lot and then there's several more lots that have not been developed yet.

But as soon as this project in total gets beyond four lots were subject to stormwater management. And what we don't want to do here is get painted into a corner and have four lots with nothing on them and try to overdo it on a couple and most of the time that's not even possible to do. So we're kind of looking towards the potential future development of the well, it would have to be the fourth and fifth. The fifth lot is what triggers stormwater management. So what that basin at the bottom of the driveway is and as you can see, there's a subsurface infiltration chamber system midway down the driveway.

What they do is collect and infiltrate all of the runoff from the impervious areas in the pavement up to and including the one hundred year storm event. So we're kind of taking care of all of it coming down there. You'll notice that because that stormwater basin is there where we go into the 50 foot buffer a little bit, we do not go into the 25, but we do go into the 50. So we're proposing the signs that you guys request and there'd be eight of them in total where we're within the 50.

And compliments to you for having the correct height on your conservation signs on your plans. Thank you. Everybody else is still five feet and yours has three feet. So thank you.

Perfect. It wasn't me. So I'll relay it.

Just take it. You're here. Okay. Sorry. Anything from you, Trish?

No. There was a previous order of resource area delineation approved for all of this property, not just this lot. So that was peer reviewed. I mean, this looks pretty straightforward.

Diane? No, I appreciate that the house is

completely out of 100 foot.

More importantly, the septic, think. Kerry?

No comments.

Gary? No comments or questions. Bart?

I'm good. Thank you.

Any comments or questions from the public? Okay. Do I have a motion to close the hearing?

Moved. Motion

by Diane, second by Gerry. Any discussion? All in favor?

Aye. Okay.

Do I have a motion to approve the notice of intent for 304 Wood Street with a standard order of conditions?

So moved.

Motion by Gerry.

Second.

Second by Bart. Any discussion? All in favor? Aye. Don't leave without your sign.

Yes.

Are the signs on the plan?

Yes. Eight of them.

Yes. Eight?

It's eight. Yes.

She's our dealer.

Usually. They don't like card.

And I mean that like a casino dealer, just to be clear. I realized after I said that.

Right. Like, dealing cards. Dealing cards. Yeah.

That's not how I do this. Five. Oh, wow. That is amazing.

I'm gonna turn this off.

How's your nails?

Took them all off the other day yesterday. And they're all thin. It's cute. They're stuck together.

We're almost back on time. Okay. Thank you. Item number six is a certificate of compliance for 62 Marion Road, DEP SE 2201603. Before we start, do I have a motion to vote into the record as built plans dated 12/19/2023?

So moved.

Motion by Diane, second by Bart. All in favor?

Aye.

Are you doing? Jason Youngquist from Outback Engineering here with the applicant. This is a house that was built back in 12/19/2023. Everything is all established, the yard and everything. And just need a strict compliance to finish up the order of condition.

What was different with the as built?

All the same.

Trish? I went out there on Tuesday. Seems like a week ago already.

It has been a slow

week. Just saying. This week's

been something.

Yes, so I went out there on Tuesday. I met with the owner and everything stabilized. The house is in. The yard is stable. They just need to put the there's signs that we're supposed to be there. And so those just need to be back put back in, and

we discuss that. And they only need to be three feet high. Ignore your plans that say five feet. They only need max three feet. They can

be 18 inches

to three feet, ma'am.

Four feet max.

And I can't remember. I think that you didn't have the little green signs.

Oh, we have them here

tonight. Would

you rather these ones? They're free and more attractive.

So they're supposed to be two and a half to four feet on some sort of material.

Yeah. So I don't know if you wanna look at the original plan and see how many they were supposed to maybe we or do we just have enough for tonight's?

No. We have plenty.

We just have the stack. Okay. Yeah. Maybe we can give those to them tonight.

Our goal is to make them friendly enough that they'll stay up. So they're not we don't want them big high awful things. We want them reasonable. Three three three yeah. Three feet tall. They're only this small. Just on a post. Just on a poster. Yeah. Nothing nothing

So you can put them on wood, PVC Piping. A raw a boulder, which anything that will keep it at between two and a half and four feet, and it isn't gonna rot. And so metal, steel, you can use metal. Yes. The point is so people are aware, like if you sold the house and left, the new owners would be aware that beyond these are wetlands and you're not supposed to do anything beyond that.

Or if even anybody's coming to work on your house.

Right.

And they usually, they put it right at that 25 foot no touch that Middleborough has, so it's 25 feet away from the wetlands, but you can't do anything in that section without actually talking to the select board, so it's, there's a purpose. Any questions or No. Comments, Carrie, any questions or comments?

No. Jerry?

No. All set. Bart? No questions.

Okay. Do we have a number on here? Don't No, the number of signs? I'm sorry, original. I don't see it on the plan. It must be the, usually it looks like a see the detail but I don't know. Know.

Typical of four. There's four.

We're good. That's what I was

looking for.

Alright. Do I have a motion to approve the certificate of compliance for 62 Marion Road DEP SE 2201603?

So moved.

Second. By Gerry, second by Bart. Any discussion? All in favor? We'll vote for aye.

Aye. Okay.

Aye. Might give me a few, it might take me a minute. It's amazing.

Well, for the price that they were, I guess you can

Wouldn't you like a knife?

Maybe I might come to that. That's 2. That's 2 in there. Is three.

Yeah. Was. It's pretty good. It's Ricky. Here. 40. Getting ahead now. Well, this next one that you

already gave it

to him.