Historic Preservation Board - Regular Meeting

Just waiting for Daniel.

Is he coming in, Eddie? Did you confirm, Daniel? I didn't get a response from Daniel. That's all right. Okay.

And he usually responds.

Exactly. Yeah. He's really good.

in a spreadsheet just because it's easier to review the items. And this is Paolo's list. This is Paolo's list? Does this have notes on it?

Yeah, that's Paolo's list. Here, yeah.

I just went through yours, Paolo, and just compared

No, but I think they're pretty consistent. I looked at yours, I looked at Patricia's, and I looked at mine. I think they're pretty consistent. I think, yeah. I don't think, I mean, I already did kind of the homework of going We have a quorum

Oh, okay. Yeah, he needs to be here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

WE'LL START THE MEETING, YEAH. WE'LL SEE IF HE COMES. YEAH. WE CAN HAVE A BRIEF DISCUSSION ALREADY.

HOWEVER THE BOARD CHOOSES TO.

WHY DON'T YOU GABBLE ON THIS ONE. YEAH.

OKAY. SO WE'LL START. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FEBRUARY 18TH, STARTING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING.

Ms. Carrier? Present. Ms. Hadley? Here. Mr. Sarri? Here. We have Quiro?

Here. Ms. Bonaduce?

Ms. Bonaduce? Here. We have Quiro.

All right. Wonderful.

Okay. So first order of business.

I have, like, four items I'd like to add, Madam Chair, if that's okay. They're very brief. They should go pretty fast. So I don't know if we want to do them now or if we want to do them at the end, whatever you want. It should go pretty fast, though.

Okay. I think it's okay to talk about that now.

Okay. So there's just a couple of things. The events that we have. I know you're going to be there on Sunday. The 1st. The 1st. Paola, you're going to be there on Sunday the 1st for the director's tour. I need docents for Warren's house, especially, because, you know, he likes to get his, go through all the stuff, and so we need docents in every room in his house. Yeah, are you available?

Yeah, that's on Sunday.

Sunday the 1st.

From what time to what time?

It's from, well, probably need you there around 1030 till about 1230. at the house we're gonna start at the library we're gonna start at the library and then we're gonna walk to the other places yeah I mean we're gonna so we're gonna we're doing three of them there yeah the plan is yeah so we're gonna go through them in order first Perry's house then Todd's house you will see the houses yeah Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But mostly the docents are for Warren's house because he gives us a little, like, he writes up, like, what's in every room and stuff like that. And you tell the people what's in every room. The other ones are pretty self-explanatory. Like, and Perry likes to do his own tour. So he talks about his house, basically. And then John McKay will be there. and I'm trying to get Mickey to go I know I can't go I don't know if you can get Brandon can you get Brandon to do it okay good then we should have enough then and with Daniel see if Daniel can come or not I'll find out okay good good and then for the open house Miami the other open house Miami event on Saturday night so I think you guys are aware of everything that's going on there And what else we got a caterer to sponsor it Hanson catering, so that's good So that'll be really nice. The CBS guy will be there Hank tester will open the meeting. He's the CBS reporter So it's gonna be really exciting Yeah, I know That's okay Okay And then for our tour in March, which is now April 4th, right? So that one's going. We need houses. We need a couple more houses. So I'm still trying to identify some. I talked to Bob Bourne, and he knows the owners of the Pink House, the Miami Vice House. So he's reaching out to them. I sent him the draft flyer, and I said, let them, you know, ask them if they're willing to open up their house. So we'll see. Hopefully they will. That would be really great.

I have a question regarding the event on the 28th. It starts at 4.30, correct?

Correct. But I need you there a little early, like 4 or 3.30.

So you think we should be there a little earlier? Yeah.

Yeah, it would be good to have you there a little early. It's going to start right at 4.30. So I'm trying to get people that are attending to come between 4 and 4.30. So it would be good to have you there by 4.

So 4? Yeah. Okay. And...

And the mayor is attending. I invited Jerome, and he's coming. I invited all the council members. I don't have confirmation from them, but I have confirmation from the mayor, and he's coming.

That's great. I can help reach out to a few of them again. Sure, yeah. Remind them. It would be nice to have them there.

Yeah, it would be. And we're going to introduce dignitaries there. Like, we'll introduce the mayor and stuff like that. The mayor of Opelika will introduce all the dignitaries. Hi.

OK.

All right.

Saturday 4 p.m. Yeah. I'm going to see if I get out of that other thing early. That sounds good. Sunday on the 1st at the library first. Like we can all meet at the library and then go. Yes. We're meeting at the library. Yep. To help with the registration. We have an idea of how many people they have. Yeah.

It's a max of 30. So we shouldn't. Oh, it's only 30. It's not a big deal. This one's not a big deal. No. No. For the open house Miami one, it's a max of 30, so yeah. And then the other thing I want to talk about is the village council meeting that happened a couple of weeks ago where they reviewed the amendment that we submitted that I presented at the meeting back in June. So the attorney has, you know, provided the update on all that stuff. They had like three issues.

I did watch the meeting. Did you watch it? No, because Warren mentioned that I should.

So I wasn't able to attend, but Warren attended. And he called me up afterwards. So I watched it. So they approved it at first reading. But for second reading, they had some conditions. They want the attorney to look at a couple of things. Two of them really didn't, I didn't think, impacted much of anything. One of them was around donations. There was a concern that we as a board have the power to accept donated materials, you know, donated like artifacts and things like that. And the official archive is at the library. So one of the council members had a concern about the library board. versus us having that responsibility, but I sent an email to Eddie and everybody else saying that we work very closely with them. We don't have our own archive. We archive it all there. The other issue is it's clear that Three out of, maybe the majority of the council members want to get rid of the clause that allows us to designate houses without the owner's consent.

Which is something I think we've discussed as a board, and I don't think we would ever do that. We're not really in agreement with that, but it's a county rule, and I think that's why it's always been in there. Yep. Eddie, I don't know if you have any updates on that from the attorney. Not yet.

Okay, so they gave the attorney an action item to see if that could be struck. She explained that it's in the county, so it's by default has to be in ours, but she took the action item. I don't think it's going to amount to anything because it's in the county ordinance. And then there was a third thing, and I can't remember what that was, but it was pretty minor, I think.

Yeah, I think it was like a cleanup item regarding, well, do they have to, if someone's proposing to make an adjustment to the structure, does that include the trees? Oh, yeah, something about landscaping. Oh, the landscape.

Yeah, and I explained in my email that we're not concerned with landscaping, we're concerned with the house, because there were some perceived inconsistencies between two sections of the thing. Correct.

so that's it for that discussion um that was all from the council members yes yeah yeah the um i mean i think and they did discuss that um the attorney actually clarified that even though that's in the ordinance it would still have to be approved by the council exactly exactly if there was um a recommendation by our board uh to try to save a house without owner's consent. To designate it. Right. We don't make that decision. We make a recommendation, and it goes to the council, and they decide.

The council approves all designations anyway. Right.

So it's not like we have... That authority, we have the authority to make a recommendation, but they have to approve it.

Correct. Correct.

But they still want it out of the ordinance.

I mean, it's clear they don't like it. Right.

But I think it's one council member, right? No, it was three. Yeah, it seemed like several to me. Yeah, it was three.

Yeah, it was George Birch. Jesse Walensky was actually very vocal about it. And Neil Cantor. The three of them.

But it's a state law, though.

It is. I mean, it's in the state ordinance, yeah. Ordinance, okay. Okay, so that will, whatever happens for that.

For us to be aware, yeah. We'll see what the attorney says. Do you know if the attorney has made any?

Not at this time, no, not yet. Okay, so she'll bring it back, I guess, at the next reading. She typically will advise me, because the item is a P&Z item, so I have to submit it to the manager, so she'll let me know when it's ready. I'll probably do a review, and then once I know we can route it, I'll send you an email like I did last time.

Is that going to be the next reading? Or is that different from the next reading? It is the next reading, yeah.

The next reading will be the second reading? Yeah.

And they would adopt it?

We don't know when it's going to be. But we don't know when. Okay. Yeah.

But I don't think they're going to approve it unless they know the answer.

Well, it won't go to second reading. They've made a requirement. So until she has the answer, it's not going to go to second reading. That's what I mean, yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah, it's not going to go to second reading. Okay. The third item, and I think that's all I have. has to do with our budget that we had from donations and from the proceeds from other tours. And I worked with Ashley. Thank you so much, Ashley. And I worked with Eddie to firm up exactly what we have. We have $2,300 approximately that came from prior donations and the proceeds from the different tours. So we have $2,300 to to support our events like for printing flyers and you know stuff like that so yeah and um i think i mentioned that the our uh house of the month sign is pretty ratty it is i'm i have another one you do and i couldn't find it but i ordered two i'm still looking for it if not i'll print one out i'll get one printed if not we get one i ordered two last time because i figured like you know one of them's gonna get ratty yeah and i can't find it i don't know Yes.

People are saying that Eddie's and Paula's microphone is off.

Oh. I just turned it on. Okay.

Got it. Thank you.

Okay.

Thanks, Patricia. Okay.

So out of this $2,300, if you need to order another sign, garden sign.

Yeah, I'll order another sign. And also, we can use it to print the flyers for the tour and the brochures.

I believe that there's a sign from the historic preservation board in one of our closets.

Is there? I wonder if it's there. Okay. We're specifically looking for the historic house of the month sign. So if you could see if that's what it is. Oh, good. Oh, so maybe that's where I put it. I gave it to you guys. That's great. Thank you, Ashley. Okay, that's all I have. So if you want to, it looks like...

All righty. Great. So we have approval of the minutes.

I move to approve the minutes from the last meeting.

I second. All in favor? Aye. Approved. Aye. All righty. Approved. So now 6A.

Yes. I'll introduce the item and then we'll open the floor for the applicant. So the applicant, Mr. Jason Engrist, is here today. He's a representative of Taylor Grant of Maverick Equity Partners. And he's requesting a certificate of appropriateness from the board for proposed exterior renovations and modifications to the property located at 515 Northeast 101 Street. The scope of work includes repairs to existing exterior finishes such as stucco exterior paint, replacement roofing material, and preservation of original chimney vents as part of a comprehensive exterior improvement for the property. The subject property at 515 Northeast 101 Street is a two-story old mission style residence designed by architect Howard D. Fiedler and constructed in 1925 during the peak of Miami Shore's initial subdivision and development by the Shoreland Company. It reached its designated locally historic designation in 1983. and it reflects the Mediterranean inspired character promoted of the 1920s. At its January 21st, 2026 hearing, the Historic Preservation Board tabled the request and indicated to the applicant that several items be incorporated into revisions of the provided documents for future consideration. Therefore, the applicant has updated his documentation and he is proposing the following items. Number one, exterior stucco restoration, repair and restore exterior stucco with an in-kind Old English textured finish to match the original facade. Chimney vents and ziggurat design fully restored the original chimney flue including but not limited to the 13 receding levels and 30 vent openings to their original historic condition. A roof replacement to install a clay barrel tile roof consistent with the home's historic character. The front door, original main entry door shall be preserved and refinished. Installation of exterior sconces which will be historically compatible at the main entry. All original awnings will be replaced and maintained in their original locations which include the front entry, second floor balcony and the garage area. The privacy wall shall be preserved and maintained with consistent architectural detailing. That goes the same with the planters that will be repaired and restored as well. Arch stained glass shall be preserved. They're located within the first floor of the property. And similar to last time, the garage to den conversion will not be part of this request, and the applicant acknowledges that they will have to come back before the board in order to seek that item. So therefore, staff is recommending approval based on the items that we discussed, and the applicant is here to answer any questions you may have.

I have a question, Eddie.

Yes.

Please, what does it mean, including but not limited, about the chimney vents, please?

It means everything. Including but not limited.

So it means that it's not going to be restored as it is?

No, it removes the limit. And typically I use that language to kind of cover anything that I may have missed. Right. So if I'm detailing the 30 chimney flues, the 13 receding, and maybe I omit something, I use that terminology to kind of protect myself.

Correct.

Yeah, because I think it's probably actually more than 13, because you can see on the side there were more.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's why it's not one of the two is a good place.

Would you like to make any comments?

No, I think we've covered it. Yeah.

So you can't salvage the sconces that are on there now?

No.

Okay.

But do you have a picture of them?

You can kind of see them. Oh, okay.

Okay. So they were thrown away?

Mm-hmm.

Okay. Yeah, this seems very modern. That's why I was asking.

It doesn't look very...

To me, this doesn't look terribly appropriate for the house. It's very, it does seem very modern. Yeah.

I mean, you can kind of see. Yeah, I mean, if you did something like that.

I have some of my house if you want. I can send you a picture. Okay. Oh, that's a really good picture there. Yeah. Something more like that would be more appropriate, I think. Thank you. Shouldn't be hard to find. Okay.

chance to go over there.

But we do have a sample up.

And it is the same as the previous original stuff. You said that the general contractor is bringing a sample of the roof tile?

Yes, correct.

This one looks a little bit too orangey, too like... I see pictures of a... I mean, I know it's going to get dirty, but it kind of doesn't...

This was from the contractor from the owner that was here previously.

Warren. Yeah. Warren's contractor, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, because they actually use repurposed... They use a repurposed... Yeah, it's hard to find, though.

He's only using it for a part of it. Right. Whatever he can, yeah.

Really the parts you can see, right? Because you can't see... too much of the roof.

Well, in my opinion, as long as it's barrel tile, an appropriate color, it should be fine.

It's more about the color that I'm talking about. Yeah. The one that is in the pictures?

That's why I'm asking. We can go darker, which we prefer to.

You would?

Yeah.

Which color do you prefer? Yeah, we like it, too. Because it seems more weathered. It's not so new. Yeah. So you liked, was there a particular one you liked?

I can get the exact color, but it's something in this or this one.

I think we like those too, right? These or this?

YEAH, I LIKE THAT. THE ONE IS KIND OF TOO GRAY, BUT THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING IF WE HAVE THE SAMPLES. YEAH, WE DO HAVE THE SAMPLES.

STICK TO THE BROWN. BUT WE HAVE THE COFFEE OR... BUT THEY PREFER DARKER. YEAH.

YEAH, COFFEE?

YEAH. LET ME SEE THE COFFEE.

YOU SAY THAT THIS IS FROM THE GENTLEMAN, THE CONTRACTOR

Nice.

Yeah, I like the coffee.

I think that's going to look nicer than like the... How about the red? You didn't like it either.

Yeah, no, it's too...

It's just a sample.

It's too... How about the red for me?

This may look a little bit too much.

Yeah, you are very good with all the details of the of the of the styles, wouldn't it be maybe the red fumet a little bit more appropriate for the style more?

More reddish? You mean like the one up in the upper left? No, this one.

Oh, red fumet.

Yeah, I think it would. I think any of these would be fine for me. I don't know. The red fumet can look kind of dirty sometimes. And it, I mean, it does look weathered. It looks weathered, but it can look a little dirty. So.

It's a little bit difficult without the sample itself.

Okay. He's only going to bring the material. Yeah. In terms of the color. Yeah.

Yeah, I see your point. That could look a little dirty.

We can send you a rendering of what it would look like with the coffee plate tile.

I think just a sample of the real tile, like a sample color, it's... So you don't need to put it in a rendering. Because actually, what I think it's missing is the... Because from a photograph, it could be a little deceiving. Oh, here's the awnings. Okay. Here we go. But it needs to be with the historic and the original one.

I don't think those awnings were historic, by the way. I don't think they would have been there.

That's why I was asking if you had the original, if you had the plans of the house. I don't.

They're probably online. They're not?

You looked?

I mean, I looked, but sometimes, you know how... Patricia, do you happen to know if this house has the original plans? We have the digital plans.

He used to have it. Yeah, the owner says he has them.

He has the actual blueprints.

Do they have? Do they have awnings?

I have to check.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. They typically didn't have awnings, but I understand why you'd want one, though.

Yeah.

Yeah. For the rain, too. Yeah.

Yeah, especially over the front door. Yeah.

We have one in front of ours.

You brought a sample of the hardware as well? Yes. Of the, sorry I didn't see it when you put it here. Because you have some pictures here. Yeah.

That are different. The shape looks like the original one, a little more like the original one.

Yeah. It's just that this one is kind of round than that one. I mean, I don't know if that one comes in a round, but if not, that's fine. Okay. All right. So, can I make a few comments regarding the past? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. So I see that you worked on some elevations here on the set of plans There's there's a few things that are missing the cigarette The reason why I mentioned Last time to include in the elevations dimensions. I know that you included some like the floor to top of chimney dimensions and And probably this is not as easy since you guys changed the design. And if you have the original plans, maybe what it would be good is to look in those plans if they have dimensions of the specific part of the chimney where the cigarette goes to understand the proportion. Because I see that you have something in your CAD plan, but it's not dimensioned. And that's what I meant by dimensions. I mean, the floor to ceiling is important. but you already have a floor to ceiling unless you guys went with the chimney higher than what it was existing but I imagine not you just strain it up right so I think that what will be good is to understand from where the cigarette starts and how does it goes like in the angle the way that the that the the little flutes are located in the historical picture are different.

This is the side one. The side, yeah. This is the side. Okay, yes.

Okay, yeah, so that's... BUT THEN IN THE ELEVATION, IT SHOWS STILL STRAIGHT ON THE FRONT ELEVATION.

CORRECT. THEY'RE STRAIGHT.

CORRECT. BUT I MEAN ON THE CHIMNEY CIGARETTE. Yeah, whatever that form is yeah, that's what it should be a little bit wider towards the bottom It's a little bit unclear And what happens is I know that you have some information in your in in the in the intent in the letter and But at the end, what the reviewers have is the plans to understand it. So if it's shown in here straight and it shows in the side straight, then that's what we have. So it should be more accurate.

So why don't we document the things we need him to change?

Well, let's wait until we need to see that tile also. I just want to understand what do we have and why don't we have to see if... as an opinion should go with conditions or to table it. It all depends on the amount of information that is missing. So in terms of the plans, we're missing that. I have a question. The balcony railing, that you didn't change or you changed it? Is it So it's intended to be existing to remain, correct? Okay. And then I see that the owning is going to be. Okay, and then just a I guess those was something that was forgotten to change in your legend The door says front door replace in kind but in your letter of intent You're saying restored so there's a different so in the plan that word should change because again The reviewer is not gonna look at your letter is gonna look at the plans They are not gonna go inside look with it with the letter Okay. And then for the sconces, my suggestion would be include an image of the sconces and of the handle within the plans, just to be documented in the plans. Yeah, in any page that you want. You can just add a picture of whatever we decide here that is going to be approved or discussed. Perfect. Those are my comments in regards to the elevations. Other than that, I see that you noted that all the windows are existing and you're not going to change them, correct? And it says existing? You're not changing them?

Okay. So just to be clear, the sample he's bringing is just a sample of the tile. It's not the color that you're going to end up with. So they don't have the color. It's just going to be the tiles. Yeah. So maybe we can approve a couple of choices for them. Yeah, we've done that in the past. Yeah, we've done that in the past where we said you can choose from this, this.

If we can, you know, do it with... requirements, yeah.

So, well, let's summarize the things that are missing. So, we're missing a selection for the scones. We're missing the colors for the tile. We're missing the note about door in the legend of the plants. That the door is being retained.

Yeah.

We're missing the cigarette, which is a crucial part of this, the cigarette detailed dimensions. and adjust the one elevation which is the, adjust the front and rear elevation. Front and rear elevation. And that's, I think that's it. So those are the things that are missing. HOW DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE IT?

HOW DO WE REVIEW THE

But you would review it to make sure it matches whatever the condition is. Yeah. But the process is... The process is that he would bring it back. If it's a condition, approved with condition, they have to bring it back and then somebody on the PNC Board or somebody on the Planning and Zoning Department, either you or somebody else, would have to review that he's actually made those changes, correct? Yeah.

Okay. So you're saying that there's two people that will, either one or two, two people, two possible people that will review that?

But it could be requested if it's a historic home that it go to you. I've seen people do it.

Yeah. Because if that's the case, when you receive it, you could send it to me or we can discuss it or no? And so that you can make the comment?

I think if we're not, it sounds to me like we have to. what you're most comfortable with. I think when you deal with conditions, they should be small ticket items that you don't have to visualize, let's say. And what I'm gathering is you're trying to get a better sense of visuals, of graphic. And I don't know if they'll be able to get it correct.

I see. Why would it be subjective if we list the items very detailed about what it is that the conditions are? I don't know how it would be subjective.

The cigarette design because right now we're indicating that we're expecting them to review the original plans and hopefully pull the exact proportions and dimensions.

The cigarette and also the light and also the light.

I doubt that they're that detailed a measurement.

But you have the overall dimensions probably. It can be scaled. I mean, your architect should be like, OK, I'll tell you what I do. And the dimensions. As an architect, what I would do is there's two ways. When you do the blueprint, you can always scale. You take a picture, you know a dimension, and then you bring it into AutoCAD, and you can scale it, and that's how you figure it out. That's one way. The other way is, of course, with the eye of the architect is the proportions. The reason why I'm saying this is because we went through all this hassle of, you know, the cigarette and the chimney got changed, and now it's different. And the whole intent of this is for us to go back and have it as it was originally designed. Designated, right? So if we're going to change it, but it's going to be different, we're basically wasting our time here doing things that are not going to, you know, match. That's really the reason. That and the, you know, the light, the light fixture that we don't have it, like, you know, it's very subjective, right? So that's, those two for me. The note of the tile, yeah. I mean, I wish we had the car to see the real colors, like, a little bit better.

This is the tile. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they're cool. Yeah. Something like brown or coffee.

It looks like you have different colors. And I don't think that the owner really likes that color. So we were thinking you like the coffee or one of the other darker colors. Yeah.

It's just that since we don't have the color, it's also kind of like what if the coffee looks, I don't know, gray or like unfortunately like from a picture. I mean we do have an idea, right? Like we are looking at it and we have an idea. Okay, it could be this or it could be the other.

I mean from my standpoint, the roof tile is not going to look like – original or whatever is that's not original was on there either so I'm not as concerned I just want to make sure that it looks appropriate for a Mediterranean Revival house even that is appropriate for a Mediterranean Revival house which I don't like it but it's it technically it is appropriate but If we get reassurance that it's going to be like we give them a couple of colors or something to choose from. Yeah. Because it's not going to look like that. That roof tile is so dirty and stuff anyway, you can't even tell what it looks like.

You're right about that.

the roof. I guess the concern is the ziggurat, right?

Like, we want to be accurate. Like, it has to be redone. This one, it was, I contacted the guy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And that's a great thing. Good.

The tile itself is good. It's just the color may not be the best choice.

It's just that usually, it's a little bit of, we're missing a little bit more of a one step further within all this. And since this has been such an ongoing situation, and You know, so usually the way that it works is that, yeah, they bring a sample, and then they bring the color card from the manufacturer, because from a picture, I mean, we know a little bit about it because we have done it a few times, but it's, again, leaving it up to, oh. Once it's there, it's there, and we don't know if it was really the... So we're going through all this effort, and then it's like a little bit of left step that we are missing to complete. And that little step may change the whole thing again. So it's kind of like, why are we doing this? It's just a little bit more thoroughness, I guess.

I guess, Mike, so I realize that all this was started because it was modified without coming to the board first. So that was a big mistake. And obviously you're paying for it in delays and stuff like that. If we don't approve it now with conditions, just so that we're all clear, he'll have to wait another month for us to approve it. And then he'll have to present it to the Planning and Zoning Board. No, there's no approval from the planning and zoning board for this? There's none of this.

Really? There's a garage corrosion risk. Right.

There's no additional construction.

Yeah, because this is going to be intact as it was before. It's not like there is an addition or, yeah.

Okay.

Hi. I might.

And I know it was their mistake for starting it without coming here. But I'm inclined to approve it with conditions, but.

My suggestion is actually to table, especially if they still have to go through planning and zoning and everything, and they were allowed to continue doing the interior. So that means that it's not like they're completely stopped. And we went through all this effort. We have gone through all this process, so it's like Like in Spanish, le faltó dos centavos por el peso.

You're going to translate for the cameras? Are you going to translate that for the cameras?

I don't know how to say that in English. We're missing two cents for the dollar. It's like, you know, and we already went through all this. And we said it in the last meeting. So, you know, in my opinion, it's worth waiting, especially because they're not fully stopped. Like, to be fair, even this was done without the right proper channels. Yeah, they're still not stopped. It's not like, so we're trying to be as.

Yeah, yeah. We still have active the whole house. Oh, they haven't been able to proceed.

Everything's been stopped for a while. Even the interior? No, no.

But you still can request inspections for interior.

Not if it's on hold. They can't do anything.

Well, I mean, unfortunately, I don't know. You still need to go to planning and zoning, so you still.

Eddie, why is the interior on hold?

I wouldn't be able to answer that.

There's a hold?

They put a hold on everything.

Oh, the hold. Yeah, I thought there was a hold.

My understanding was that they were looking for a means to open up the permit for the interior alterations to continue or the interior work, but I don't know where that went.

They allow us to work, but we are ready to request the installation for plumbing, electrical, mechanical, but we have an open permit, so the whole is on the permit. I believe the hole is because the garage.

But again, the garage has nothing to do with us. You still will have to wait no matter what for that one because it's planning and zoning. So no matter what, let's say we say yes to this today, you still cannot go ahead and... No, I'm just trying to... You will still not be able to continue because you're on hold completely for planning and zoning. So in that case... Exactly.

Exactly.

Well, no. Yeah, that's the garage conversion. That's a separate issue. That's really a separate issue.

Like I said, I had to request all the inspection, but...

So can you ask them if they can move forward with the inspections on the interior that doesn't impact this?

It doesn't, yeah. I will ask. I was under the understanding that was the path forward, but I don't know.

Yeah, I thought that was the path forward too, that they could proceed.

It may be that Ismael is just like trying to be super safe. But if probably Eddie mentioned it, they can continue. And they still have to wait, no matter what, for planning and zoning. So in my opinion, we have already put so much effort into this that it's worth getting all the information together so that we can approve it.

Just to be clear, what information you're looking for, you're looking for the dimensions of the ziggurat design and where it starts?

Correct. Yes. Yes. Unfortunately, that's the whole thing. It has to wait for the next meeting.

Yeah, I mean, can we just continue with exterior stuff, though, and table that for the next meeting?

I don't know. That would be a question for Eddie.

That, Eddie? Just table those two things?

Well, you said you already have a sample. I could pass by and take a look if you guys agree. There's already a sample.

Yeah, but you can't approve it officially unless it comes to the meeting. YOU CAN'T EVEN IF YOU DRIVE BY IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS YOU'RE SAYING LET'S APPROVE THE CONDITIONS.

IS THERE A PICTURE? THERE IS. YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN APPROVE ONE THING AND DISAPPROVE THE OTHERS. Can we? I mean, I don't have a... Yeah, it's called conditions, probably. No, but that's approving the whole thing, and that's what I'm saying. Like, I believe that the cigarette is such an important... Okay. And then they still have to wait. If it was like we were the hold-up of everything, and even though I, in my personal opinion, I would hold that part, but because it's not even that... It's worth trying to get it right.

For the interior.

And that makes sense. And for that, we probably can have a discussion with Ismael. Because it was approved, because it was, that's what we were understanding.

Eddie, can you take the action to discuss that with Ismael?

I've made note of it, yes.

Okay, thank you. Maybe we can get you to get your inspections. Yeah, at least that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a, yeah. Yeah, I thought that's what we had talked about, so I don't know what happened.

My thought was that that was resolved at our last meeting. Because I remember you mentioned it. So I don't know.

We should make a decision. Somebody should make a motion. But did you see the stucco? Yeah. This is better. No, it's because you can't see it because of the paint. You're getting the wrong feeling because it's not painted. No, I think it's good. Yeah, it's good.

I have a question. I just want to double check this. On the picture of the stucco, so this one that is painted here is the final product of how it's going to look? Because you have this one here, which is in the raw, right?

Yeah.

This one here is how you painted that piece, or this is the original? The original. Got it. Okay, thank you.

Yeah, it looks fine. Yeah.

Yeah.

Once it's painted, it'll look good.

This is the original. That's what they did. That's too much.

If you like that sort of thing.

But this looks much better than, you know, more appropriate, not much better. I don't particularly like it.

This is like one of two houses that have that old English finish in the village. Everything else has more of a 20s, like my house is a 20s. Rough, but it's not that rough.

Not that rough. Yeah.

All right.

The stucco is good. The stucco is, I mean, it looks pretty similar. Yeah, it's very similar. And once it's painted, it's the color that you pick. Like we said the last time, it was really nice. Yeah, very nice. So you want to make a motion? Go ahead. I would like to make a motion to request the applicant to bring the missing information so that we can approve it during the next meeting.

So the motion is to table it. Correct. I second.

You can ask those in favor.

Oh, those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Aye. Sorry. We'll try to get the, hopefully Eddie can get the interior stuff going again.

And if you get it in a week, right, it can come next month.

We made it happen this month. Yes, you did. So we'll do our best to do it again.

We appreciate that. Yeah, that would be great. So selection of the light, right? The selection of the light with, you know, the pictures. The colors of the tile, if you can ask the gentleman to – like he has like the – The brochure. Yeah, the brochure's in here. Since we're going to do the changes, do the note of the door in the plans that is restored. And then with the cigarette, like I mentioned, probably you can, with the original plan, you can scale it and put, like, the detailed dimensions that way. There's, like, a record of that. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Good luck.

Thank you. And, yeah, if you could bring your favorite color of the tile, that would be great. Yes.

Or two or three, you know, whatever. Like, yeah.

Yeah. Darker will look nicer. Thank you so much.

I mean, we went through all this hassle just to think. Okay.

Okay. So now we're going to the inventory list. Yeah. It's 6B. All right. We're going to get organized with our list.

So I'd like to make a motion right at the beginning.

All right.

Yeah. I'd like to move that we accept Patricia's list because they're pretty accurate and stuff like that, and then we don't have to review them. Yeah. Do you want to second it?

Yeah. I'll second that. Yeah. All in favor?

Aye. Aye. Okay. So we have Patricia's list.

Patricia's list is the... La mamá de los pollitos. Yeah.

So that's a definite. And then we have these two additional lists that we can discuss as to whether or not we want to include those in the master list. We'll call Patricia's the master list.

Right. Okay.

So this is the master list.

So do we want to talk about our list first? Yeah. Okay. So basically.

We have the pictures here. We have the pictures.

The pictures are hard to see because they're small resolution, but I don't know that we want.

They're in here.

They are in there, yeah. I don't know that we want to go house by house. That will take forever.

No, if you have any concerns, you can.

I have no concerns on the list that we put together.

Yeah, so then let's just kind of let Paola look at all of them quickly. I already looked at them also.

Did you have any issues or concerns?

To be honest, no.

I don't have issues or concerns. I know that you mentioned some homes that were after the 70s.

Yeah, 60s and 70s.

The 60s and 70s I thought might be something we want. Not that many, like maybe there's five or six. Yeah, there's not that many. They're pretty interesting. They are interesting. Not necessarily a style that I love, but... a very interesting architecture that seems worth, you know, being recognized.

And that's the thing, like, yeah, some of, like, for example, Patrizia's list, some of them are not my style, but it's not, you know, it's more about, like, that significance. And from the 60s, they may consider to be more, like... up to date and not like historical but at the end if we don't exactly and if we don't plan to to take in account those ones you know in 20 years what what is historical in you know in 20 and 30 so i i that's why i think that they they're all very they they kept yeah a consistency house that is less than 50 is the pink house and i think we all agree because that's 1977

that that's worthy. That needs to be preserved. It's worthy. So there was this 1972, right? So that's over 50 years old. And it was just a Dutch colonial.

Yeah, it's really cool. It's like a Dutch colonial.

Again, not my style, but pretty unique or, you know, recognizing. Yeah, exactly. So, and then, of course, this is a list to be recognized and then discussed if there is ever...

uh you know this that one i was surprised by that one the 1971 um the mansard roof one yeah that's wes's house i think it's so cool i think it's so cool after they painted that roof was like a lot of people don't have an appreciation for a mansard roof but you know what in this in the 70s they loved them i i

And they're an artifact of the time.

I have done a few designs with contemporary Manson roofs. But that house, I remember the first time I saw it, I was like, oh, my God, what is that? And then, to be honest, but it is very consistent. And, like, again, it's not about our taste. It's not our style, right. However, what he did to that house, and I told him not long ago, it was fantastic. It was so consistent, and it kind of, like, pulled it together. Yeah. And I wanted to bring that also as a part of discussion. I noticed that in some of your lists you put in, it had an addition, but it was very well done.

It was either very well done or they didn't alter the facade.

Alter the facade. And that's something that I actually mentioned without at that time looking at your list to Eddie because when I was going through the homes, I also saw some of those ones that I didn't include because I was like, oh, they had an addition.

Yeah, if the addition didn't affect the facade of the original plant, I included it.

But I think it's pretty interesting and very valid because... Some additions we didn't include.

There were some additions that... Of course, they destroyed the house.

They destroyed the house. There was one house that I was on the fence of, but the original...

like it's a it's a 1950 house yeah that might be on um that was on paula's original okay but the 1950 is just absolutely gorgeous but then they put like a two-story block behind it but it's so distinct like it could be a completely different building yeah so yeah that that one's on your original list oh okay and then this 1963 one one second jeffrey yeah mm-hmm

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, that's already there.

Yeah. You know what happened is when we were going around and taking the pictures, it wasn't on the list, but then I asked you about it, and you told me that it is on the list, but it just needs to be updated. So, yeah, that house needs to be removed. I removed it from the spreadsheet. I'll send you these spreadsheets, or I'll have Eddie send it to you.

It was unusual, a 1970. I know. That's unusual. Very unusual, yeah.

Can we talk about the colonial revival ones for a minute? There's so many. And they're not all great examples of it. Do we want to, like, modify? Like the seven colonial ones with the columns in the front?

Yeah, you're talking about the list from who?

Any list. It's mostly on our list.

Oh, in yours?

Yeah, because they're mostly from the 40s. We just have so many of those. And they're not all... I don't know. They don't seem...

I was like, that's great. I never thought about it when you put it there. I was like, yeah, of course. This is such a great, such a beautiful building.

Can you look at the southern colonial ones? The ones with the columns. There's several. They're all over. They're all from the 40s. I mean, do we want to call the list or not? Or do we want to just keep them?

Huh?

Want to keep them all?

In my opinion, we can keep them. I understand what you're saying. There's many, and a lot of them are not that... I mean, let me go through them really quickly once again and see if maybe...

I mean, I think where it gets to be like the house that they're altering now, that was not original, right? That was already changed.

Yeah. No, I'm talking about the original ones.

Where is... Patrice's list, yeah. He's got a whole...

I mean, I'm okay. I'm okay.

I'd like to share some ideas, please, if I may, Madam Chair.

Yes, yes, that'd be good.

Well, you know my position regarding historic houses, that if it was for me, I would designate them all Miami Shores and historic districts like Morningside. But we're thankful for... select some special ones, and I'm thankful, and we have to feel very accomplished to get that, okay? So I think all these properties everybody has proposed, if they caught their attention, for any of us, means they're

and approve all of them. Yeah. Do we have a number, Patricia? What is the total of your list? Do we know? I'm just curious.

Yes, I have it here.

Okay, because I remember originally.

We added 77.

I'm going through them and all of them I've seen and I think they have those elements. They're worth it. That's fine. And we should be proud that we have such a wonderful village with so much variety and uniqueness.

I feel like it's a 1930 house. It's at least worth a discussion, right? That's the thing.

Or a 40s house, yeah.

Yeah, 1940 house.

Yeah. Okay, that sounds good.

How many, Patricia?

So it's 186. 186. All three are 186.

Out of more than 3,000 houses.

So that's Patricia's list, huh? Patricia's list. Patricia's list. Now, we added 77. So that brings it to whatever.

You're saying this, what you gave me?

It is what I said. I would say that the 10% of the village, you know, roughly 300 houses.

Yeah.

That brings it to 263.

Okay. And then we've got to talk about the – And the Paolo one? No, we have to talk about Paolo's list because it's duplicated. A lot of it is duplicated. So let's just go through that. So Barbara is 263.

Yeah, Patricia, I think it's like 10%. You're right. And I actually, like I was saying, I still have been going through the neighborhood and still more homes that are like pretty unique.

And it's less than that because we have a total of like 3,300 homes. And I remember we did the research once, and Coral Gables, they have like 15% of their homes are designated. It was a much higher number. And designated.

Designated. These ones are just significantly. We have less than 1% that are designated.

I mean, in all fairness, Coral Gables has a lot more. A lot more grand, but... Worth designation than we do, I think. But anyway, that's neither here nor there.

No, we have some houses that are worth designation.

Yeah, we have some, but not as much as...

But I think we still have a lot that should be designated that are not. Like, in this list, I think a lot of them are worthy of a designation.

Yeah. Yeah, Patricia? Okay.

I would like to, if we all agree to approve all the houses, of course we have to separate the duplicates, but I volunteer to buy all your lists.

Thank you.

Thank you, Patricia. And then give Eddie the whole list clean.

Okay.

Thank you.

Yep.

That was a lot of work. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

And Daniel's, right? He made some suggestions. They're in our list. Okay, great.

They're in our list. They're already in the list. So, Patricia, that's great. I took the time to put ours in a spreadsheet, in the same spreadsheet that you had yours, and I'll send you that because that will be easier for you. So that would be great if you do that. Thank you so much. You've done a lot of work on this. Yeah, we really appreciate that. A lot, a lot of work. It has done.

Printed with pictures and the reason why we consider it significant.

Not only because that house is pretty. So it has to be the same. It has to be significant.

And that brochure will be filed, will be stored at the archives with the village council.

Yeah. Good. Okay. So, can we finalize? Go through Paula's list, please. Let's go through the list so that we can finalize the effort. And we, so what I did is I looked at each of them. And then I, if you look at the spreadsheet that I gave you, I identified where we already had them. This one, the address is wrong. It's 96th Street, not 97th. The first one? Yeah. Yeah. Because that's your address. Yeah. That's the Wall Snyder House. Yeah. No, this house, the first one, 97th Street.

I put 97th, which is my street. Yeah. That is Dino's house, in the corridor. Yeah. I'm actually doing that renovation. Oh, you are?

Oh, cool. You know, that's Walt Snyder. Yeah. He was the original architect. He's amazing.

A stark attack. Okay. You know, this is our house of the month. Yes.

And the gentleman, when I went to drop off the house of the letter.

Yeah. Well, his house is going to be like November, I think. But I dropped off all the letters to let them know. Oh, yeah. And he was like, oh, what's this? Because he had the door open. He was very nice. Yeah, he's really nice. He's really nice. That's awesome.

Yeah, then he said, what did he tell you? Oh, no, that was a different one. Okay. All right. So let's go through here. Okay. So, yeah, this is already on Patricia's list, so we should remove that one from Paola's list. So you can strike that one.

Yeah, you already put yes. Yes.

So any of the ones that I found, I indicated what list they're on. So why don't we just talk about the ones that, because we're going to remove those. Why don't we talk about the ones that I didn't find. So the one that's 801 Northeast 97th Street. Yeah. I couldn't find that online. I wonder if the address is wrong.

I may have made a mistake with the address. Yeah. This home is by, yes, this one.

I'm sure it's on Petitza's list, that house. It looks amazing.

That is a beautiful home. Yeah. And it's by the train tracks. Uh-huh. It is, so I know where it is. I can check the address and send it back. But you guys agree with that home, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think it's got to be on the list.

I can't imagine it's not on her list already. On Paola's list, it's 801 Northeast 97th Street, but I don't think the address is right.

It's near the train track.

Do you see that house?

Let me Google it.

Can you repeat the address, please?

801 Northeast 97th. I did Google it. I couldn't find it.

It's right at an intersection. It's at an intersection? Yeah, based on what I'm seeing, there's a street sign in that corner. It says 8th Avenue.

8th Avenue, yeah.

Oh, is it 8th Avenue in the 97th Street?

Yeah, definitely not the address. I'm sorry. Oh, it's 8th Avenue. Okay.

Oh, that area? Yeah.

SO HOW COULD WE FIND THAT? 9698? YEAH, THAT SOUNDS RIGHT.

9698 NORTHEAST 8th AVENUE.

THAT DEFINITELY SOUNDS LIKE THE CORRECT ADDRESS.

WHAT IS THE ADDRESS AGAIN? 9698 NORTHEAST 8th AVENUE.

NO, THAT'S NOT IT. THAT HOUSE LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT. OH, NO, I'M GOING TO THE WRONG PLACE, SORRY. NO, I WENT TO THE WRONG PLACE. THE STREET VIEW, I CAN'T TELL WHAT IT IS FROM THE STREET VIEW. I don't know if that's the right address or not. But I can see the house in Street View. I just don't know the address. The house number is 800. 900 Northeast 97th. 900? 900? Maybe it's 900. 900 Northeast 97th. 900 Northeast 97th Street, Miami Shores. I hate it when they don't have a picture well I Okay. So can you drive by it again and verify it? Yes.

Okay. I can verify the address.

All right. Let's go to the next one that's not on anybody's list. Number six is 9301, ninth place. But that's a repeat of, you have it as number two already.

Which is?

9301, ninth.

But do you have a question about it or? No. I mean, it's already on Patricia's list. But this is a duplicate. Yeah.

Okay. The next one is 9417 Northeast 9th Avenue. Here it is. So that's pretty cool. I looked that up. It's 1946.

Look at the lamp. Yeah.

It's beautiful. I think that's cool. We should keep that on the list.

And it's pretty original. Yeah. It still has that pendant. It's beautiful.

Mm-hmm. So we'll keep that on the list. Then we've got 96th and 96th Street. One of them is Robert Law Weeds. Both of those are on Patricia's list.

Yeah.

You mentioned, of course. Okay. 1202 101st Street is the next one. 101st Street. I like that house. Yeah. 1946. I can't believe we missed it somehow. Mm-hmm. Well, we did that street.

Yeah, we did. Yeah, and it's also pretty intact. It's pretty intact.

Oh, I'm sorry. No, I'm looking at 1098. Sorry, I'm talking about 1098 Northeast 96th Street. That's Robert Law Weed. Yeah, we did that. 1202 Northeast 101st. This one I'm talking about. This one I'm talking about, yeah.

I think we did this.

You know what it was? It looked like it wasn't original.

The second part doesn't seem original. Yeah, and like the windows don't seem original. Like it was somehow modified. Yeah. Maybe the windows were modified, but I think that original structure is there. It was from the beginning. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I remember now. We thought maybe they added to the right. But we can keep it. That's fine. Okay, let's go to, what's the next one? 1052 Northeast 91st Terrace.

Because the other ones are already.

They're already in everybody's. Oh, I'm sorry. I missed one. 99. No, I missed one. 9950 Northeast 4th Avenue. Oh, that house. Wait, I looked it up. That house. I did go by and look at it. You know, I thought it was old, older than it is. It's 1953. this that house is this that whole thing was they added that yeah it's not really um it's not original at all yeah this this this first picture is not original yeah it was all added i remember when they were constructing it um they made it look old but it's not that old so this is actually uh

What year is it?

It's 1953 is what the records say.

Yeah, but I literally remember when they added that. Because that's on my little walk to go to the... But, I mean, this part, I think, you know, somebody famous lived in this house. Who? I don't remember, but I know. Let's research it.

Let's research it a little bit more. I think this house.

Somebody famous, it was a rock star, and I don't know if this is an urban legend, but supposedly, look, see how the pool is raised? Supposedly, there's a room underneath there. I mean, I don't know if it's an urban legend.

I think that's urban legend. I think it's urban legend. Yeah.

Like crazy stuff happened in there.

Well, the problem is that it looks like a Frankenstein now. It's so weird because they've modified.

I mean, I think the front...

The front facade is totally modified.

I remember specifically when they... And I was like, what are they doing to that house? But the back is pretty cool.

Yeah, but I mean, you're not going to designate this house because it's so modified.

Well... Do we have the original plans of this house?

I have no idea. I didn't do any research.

Patricia? Yes, I'm here. You're familiar with that house, the one on the corner, 9950 Northeast 4th Avenue?

I just looked online, and the address is incorrect.

Is it?

Paula? No, it's not. I did it alone. It was complicated to do all this. Coming up.

No, I found it, Patricia.

Wait, what address?

I found it, Patricia.

Hold on, okay.

I guess maybe, remember the door is placed on another street, Jeffrey.

It's on the side, yeah. That's very weird. It's on the side. That's why the address is different. No, but it's not 4th Avenue. It's 4th Avenue Road. You've got to look up 4th Avenue Road, and it's there.

Yeah, it's there. It's there, and it says 1953.

I found it.

What? Oh, no, it says road.

It says road.

Oh, on my spreadsheet it doesn't say road, but she doesn't have that. No, I didn't send it to you. You're looking at the picture. Anyway, if you want to do some more research, that's fine. To me, it's like, I don't think it's something that's historically significant.

Do you remember that urban legend? It was before that renovation. Because I know that renovation was like 15, 16 years ago. And they added that whole facade. And I was just like, that is so bizarre.

Okay, let's go on, guys.

Especially because it faces backwards. Yeah.

You did? Okay, tell us. What's it from? It's online. And what's it from?

Okay, I'm opening. I'm opening. Let me see.

Maybe you found the 1953 plans. Or the renovation plans 15 or 16 years ago. Okay, while she's doing that, let's go on, guys. We're going to be here all night. Let's go to 1052 Northeast 91st Terrace. That's the next one that's not already on lists. Okay, that is a cool house. I'm good with keeping that.

Yeah, it has the wrought iron.

Yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty.

It has the band. Yeah. The color, that looks, it's pretty.

Yeah, it's good. All right.

Oh, lovely.

Look at that.

The next one you've got on there is 1077 Northeast 91st, and I don't think that's the right address because I could not find it.

This house here.

Yeah. If you Google 1077 Northeast 91st, you get something else.

That looks like a shoreline property.

It does, yeah. It looks like a 1920s property. So I think the address is wrong.

So you'll need to double-check the address? Yeah, could you double-check the address?

And let's double-check if it's most likely on...

It's probably on 91st Terrace, but I think you've got the wrong address, because this is what comes up.

Okay. That could be right.

Okay. Let's go to 21.

I think he's right because I actually Googled this one. Okay. I don't know why it's coming up.

Maybe I – Why is it coming up like that?

Because it's on the same street as this one. All these – like they have a beautiful amount of homes in that street. I don't know.

Terrace. Yeah. Terrace is unusual. I don't know. I just Googled it.

I Googled it. Yeah, I'm putting terrace. Okay, let's go to the next one. Let's see. 1036 Northeast 95th. 1036. And that's a 1940s. Here it is. Yeah.

That's a 1940 house? Yeah. It's a simple home, but I thought it was still consistent.

I mean, it's well kept and it's pretty, but I mean, we can keep it all the time.

Is it special? No.

It's definitely not – to me, it's not wow, but we can keep it if you want.

No, I mean – Let's keep it. I don't – I mean, this is a – I mean, it's a nice 1940 house.

It's – Let's just keep it for now. That's fine. Okay, we'll keep it. Okay, the next one is 10 – 1033 Northeast 95th. So we did look at this house and we didn't add it to the list because we thought it was modified, that facade. Remember, Michelle?

Yeah.

1033.

Well, the windows for sure have been probably modified. Yeah.

I think the chimney is a nice. Yeah, and the original arch over here. The arch.

Like it was, yeah. Like, you know, what it may be throwing it off is the window. All right. Let's keep it then.

Let's keep it then. We were going to add it. I don't know why. You were going to add it? Yeah. We were, yeah. Okay. Let's see the next one.

That is a beautiful one.

All right, 1053 Northeast 95th Street.

No, there's one. 1053 North... Yeah, we also really liked... Yeah, we really like the porthole. It's lovely.

This is Medi-Deco. I say we keep it. 402 Northeast. I think this is on our list, too.

I don't think it is. Yeah, I don't think it is.

I think it was another one like it. I love it. All right, 402 Northeast 95th. Let's see what that looks like.

Don't you have that one in the list? I thought you also had it in the list.

It's not on the list. It's lovely.

It's MediDeco also. It's completely original. That ironwork is beautiful.

And it's a very large home. That's why I took two pictures because it was difficult to capture the detail.

Is this a 4D?

Yeah.

Yeah, lovely.

Okay, let's go to the next one. It's 311 Northeast 94th.

That is not in the list?

Yeah, it's not on anybody's list. 311 Northeast 94.

Where is that one? A few pages down the line.

Yeah, I see it.

Ah, 311. 311 Northeast 94. What year is this? I don't know. I'm not sure. I thought I looked it up.

It doesn't say the year.

Let me look it up. 311 Northeast 94. It looks 30s or 40s.

It had the corner was interesting. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a curve. Yeah.

That's very nice. And it looks like that. Is that the front door, maybe? That's the front door. It's 1941. Yeah. Very nice. Okay. We'll keep that. This one, of course, is so cool. Yeah.

Beautiful. That's on our tour. That's Bob Smith's house. Yeah, yeah. Our first designation. I know. I know.

All right. Then 67 Northeast 94th. Which one? 67 Northeast 94th.