Boc - Regular Meeting

Okay, it is 9:00. We better get started. Like everyone to rise for prayer and pledge of allegiance. Dear Lord, we come to you today and we're thankful for the country we live in, the county we live in, and just pray that you'd be with those out tending the roads, keep them safe, and uh Lord, just give us wisdom and discernment as we go through your meeting, and help us to be obedient to you in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.

Um start I would entertain a motion to amend the agenda to add Herb Hunt and the appointment of Michael to the Healthc Care Foundation of Miami County and also to move office to the top. So move second. A motion second. All in favor say I. I. I. Okay. Floor is yours.

Well, thanks uh commissioners for inviting us here. We uh we're here just to give you an update u on on the project, where we are and and presenting. Um so, you know, the direction we're going and um we'll uh this is well, let me introduce myself if you don't know me. My name is Tony V. I'm uh a partner in Elus Architecture located in Fort W. My right is Jacob Chavez. Uh and he is the project lead on this project and he's here toh give you your update. Yeah, good morning everybody. As Tony said, I'm here to kind of walk you through what we have planned for you all. So, right now, just a bit of background some of the project goals here. Um, so really there's one main goal is to create an accessible approach for North Broadway. Uh, so there's not really a good way to get from the street to the courthouse. Um, at least on that side of the building. Uh, and we're trying to get everybody to be using that side of the building. Uh, also another one is to provide accessible restroom facilities on the ground floor. Again, there aren't really um great restroom facilities in terms of accessibility here. We're looking at reconfiguring and kind of consolidating those and being able to uh really provide um some facilities that are a little bit more modern and accessible. Uh and then also too um we are looking at relocating the public entrance and security checkpoint as I alluded to earlier coming off the north Broadway. And then one final project goal is to reclaim space for the grand hall on the ground floor. So basically go back to some of the original intent of building here to be open uh and not as um filled with so many things. So right now some of the existing site conditions on North Broadway uh there's

not really an accessible approach like I said uh there is no public I'm sorry no accessible parking um there are multiple changes in level and multiple stairs uh and it's just very difficult if you're um kind of mobility challenge uh to be able to navigate to uh the building. So, as you can see in some of these photos here, um there's just a lot of elevation change. So, what we're doing is we're proposing some exterior site improvements to address that. So, what we have here is a brief little site layout plan. Um so, you can see uh we show some access accessible parking spaces. So, we're showing the van accessible in the standard space um with a uh basically your um accessible aisle going right to a curb cut. That way, people will be able to hit from the street level up to the sidewalk level. And then from there, uh directly adjacent to the right, we're showing a new ramp kind of curving up around your existing deck or stonework. and another one on the opposite side for symmetry sake um also to help it a little bit with with aesthetics, make it look balanced. So that will get you from the sidewalk level up to your first raised level. If you recall from the photo and then from there we are showing an accessible ramp to get you from that level up to uh the stairs and into the ground floor of the building kind of in tandem there. you have the different approaches coming from around either side of the building. So, we're looking at ways to be able to kind of consolidate some of that foot traffic. So, we're showing some steps coming off of the one side going up to landing on the ramp to help everybody be able to get around easily. So, that is a brief overview of the site improvements

and this is what it look like in three dimensions. So again, you can see a street level. We have the curve cut there kind of on the bottom right of the screen. And then you have the ramps going up on either side and then the larger ramp in the back to get you up to the street level. Moving inside the building. Uh so we are going to be showing accessible restrooms, relocating the entrance and security checkpoint, and then also reclaiming some space for the hall. So you can see a little bit here some of that rampant stairs uh accessing the main entrance. We're showing a new uh vestibule here. Um and also uh the security checkpoint is going to be right in front of that. Let me zoom in a little bit to some of the toilet room. The rest of your plans here. So here we're showing an enlarged men's room and enlarged women's room. Uh so these are currently in development. Uh we are looking at um providing basically your your fixtures that are needed. So your toilets, your sinks, um your grab bars and other toilet accessories that are required for accessibility sake. Um and really being able to take what space we have and use it to the best of um our ability. So, some of these rooms are um really they're kind of spread around a few different areas in the building right now, some of the restroom facilities. So, we're looking at taking everything and putting it into two central locations. So, we're doing what we can to make it all fit and provide everything for accessibility to sit. So this is uh what we have for the restrooms and the next steps would be uh to finalize the site layout. So as we get more into the details

really we need to explore um what actually it will take to uh do all the work that we're proposing. So, not just schematic like we're showing now, but like the detailed drawings and everything for the contractors to build eventually. Uh, similar for the interior, we'll have architectural, we'll have some mechanical and plumbing and other things that we'll need to iron out the details for. uh and again provide some really uh final drawings for those which will lead into the bidding documents which will basically we'll put together um what we call construction documents or drawings and specifications that we will uh go to different contractors. will then bend the project and then eventually one of them will be selected to actually construct the project and we have a proposed project schedule here as well. So right now proposed project bidding is uh we're thinking at the end of February. The proposed construction start is April 1st and to be proposed to be completed by the end of June. And are there any questions? That concludes my presentation. You know, are there festivals in June that ask to use that part of the building the grounds? I don't think there is, but

in July there is the Cole Porter Festival. Is that's in June? It's in June. That is in June. I don't think they use they don't really use that far up street and stuff. Yeah,

they just have to remove some stuff around there. I can't think that was all I could think of. So, for the bidding to end in February, we got to get you got to get it advertised soon and Yeah. Yeah. We've got u yeah we got to go through the standard protocols and to get there we've got some questions there's a question there we sent you yesterday follow up with the call with you just kind of go through those questions um because when we when we advertise you know there's dates that uh go along with that

okay um I guess one thing I never brought up at any of our meetings and reminded me as you're going through that um some of our ceilings in the hall north and south where you're working needed repair and paint and we were going to get that done a year ago and realized, well, if we're going to remodel, maybe we ought to do it all at once. So, that ought to be added into the quote. Okay, we'll take a look at it on our way out. So, is it uh we'll just take a look.

You said that's the north and south side. I know the north has some chunks out of the ceiling. I don't remember if the south side did or not, but if you're painting three4 of it, might as well do all of it. Yeah, we'll have these traits in the building for the project. So, yeah, you're right. It makes sense to go. Other than that, I know we've talked about this for two years and we've approved to do it. just thought it would be good to have you come and make a presentation. I appreciate that. And how many pictures are you going to be add?

Um I think right now we're proposing one new water closet and for the women and I believe one new urinal for the men. I just I didn't know if any of that needed to be at all designed for the state. Yeah. Thank you. There might be a permit that needs to be taken out correct. Okay. Thank you very much.

Yeah. Appreciate it. Thank you for coming. Good morning. Good morning. Get all set up here. It's hard. Okay. So, um I am here before you today to bring a petition to vacate uh before you guys. And so we had um a petition that was filed with my office um on December 5th by Connie Sther um and looking to vacate a portion of an alley. Um so you can see here there was notice of the hearing that was published in the newspaper um on December 31st advertising this meeting and then um the notice to the abuing land owners did go out first class and certified on

December 23rd. So we've met those procedures as required. Um, so the petition is to vacate the 12 foot north south alley between lot 7 and 8 of Koloff's edition, the original plat of the town of Morfield uh, here in Miami County. So, if you're not familiar with Morfield, it's North Grove. Um, it's kind of fun little history lesson to go through. So, you can see here um, as we're looking at the plat map, it's this small little alley right here. Um, as we looking between seven and eight there, um, I did go out and take a look at that one. Oh, sorry. Uh, there is an overhead view of this. It's just a small little section there. Um, I did go and take a look at this last week. And so there is a barn and a building there um already. it. It's a pretty if you didn't know there was an alley there, um you wouldn't wouldn't guess it at all. So, um small little section there. It looks like just somebody's yard right now. But that's what she's looking for is to vacate that small little portion there. I didn't see any problems with this. Um in your packet here, you have all that same information. It looks like she's going to combine loss there, but not without with that alley going through.

So, in your overhead view, that doesn't even make it to East Park.

No. Um the the alley goes through uh Yeah, it's back there. You can see a little bit of that. Is there anybody here that wants to address this? Correct. Correct. Yeah, that alley would continue on up here, but this piece is not being vacated. It's just a small curious, is there a reason not to vacate all over? I was running through that in my head uh this morning and other than just maybe those other land owners wouldn't want to take possession of that piece but I don't know why they're shouldn't vacate that whole thing but that wasn't onition to save We approve. No problem with it. I will second that. There been a motion and a second to vacate the alleyway. What was it called? Warsfield. Warfield, better known as North. All in favor say I.

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Thank you. um ordinance there that they'll sign and then I will get that recorded and let the assessor and the auditor know so they can just The other thing that I did want to bring for you is just letting you know and invite you to um our first open house for our comprehensive plan. Um and so I'll give you a flyer here. Oh yeah, I can fix it. No, I'll fix it. I'll go again. Um so as you were aware this fall we did take bids and um are updating our comprehensive plan for the county. Um the plan is to uh called Horizon 2035. We're looking at what is life like here in um from now until 2035. And so uh we're in phase one of this comprehensive up plan update. Um our last one was done in 2015. And so it's time to get this new one up to date. And so phase one here is just data collection. And so that's what this open house will be is to look at um where where we need to focus our energy and our time into whether that's roads, if that's um tourism, uh all the different segments that would be Miami County. So um that open house will be on January 28th out at the fairgrounds. They're going to be two sessions there. Um 11 to 1 and then 5 to 7. It's just a come and go kind of thing. It's not a formal presentation. It's just if you would like to share feedback on hey we think the county should focus their energy in the next 20 years towards these different segments or these

concerns need to be addressed in the community. So that was just a a brief little thing and and you're welcome to join. So uh plan commission will be working on that for the next year like so I'll keep you updated as we go.

Thank you. And then the last thing, um, just like with this project, there was a good lead in this morning. Um, if you guys are approving projects or remodels for any county buildings here, um, if someone could just direct those people to my office or just loop me in somehow, um, I can help keep us in the clear as far as making sure that the state requirements with construction design releases are filed. Um, we are still going to need permits. We wouldn't have to pay for our own permits, obviously. Um, but just to make sure that the contractors are doing the work that they are supposed to be per code and that the contractor is registered. So, uh, just something to tuck in the back of your head if you have projects like that going forward. Um, you pay me to you got out of trouble, so let me do that for you.

Thanks. Unfortunately, on the 28th, we will all be Indianapolis. That's fine. Um, again, that one's just a uh a data collection thing. So you're welcome to there is a website too if you want to um address those things in the website as well. So I'll keep you updated. Okay. Thank you. And we have a VPN request. Morning.

Good morning. Our uh new deputy prosecutor started working in our office last week. So, construction is done. Paint is dry. Probably still have some in my hair from this weekend, frankly. But we are ready to rock and roll. She's got all of her um she's set up and ready to start uh taking some of the case load. Um, the one thing we're looking for is to give her VPN access. Uh, so she can, um, while working outside of the courthouse still access the share drive, clock in, clock out. Um, whether she's working from home or working after hours. She is someone who will be on call on the on call rotation with the rest of us.

There's no reason not to. I'll make that motion to allow. I'll second. There's been a motion and a second to request BPN for Katie Heriki Wiki, deputy prosecutor. All in favor say I. I.

Thank you. Have a good one. Okay, next we have the uh resolution on tardiness. We can use that one. want to explain it. Do you want to explain it? Sure. Okay.

Um, this is just to clarify in the handbook whether or not if you're going to be late for work and you use comp time to cover that period that you're going to be late. If you use comp time and you have it, you won't be counted as party. Just to clarify, it's because there's been some issues of interpretation in the handbook that we just want to keep cut and dry. Um, In the last paragraph, it says that that the employee elects to use to cover the time

should be must use their they can no they can take the tardy if they want to. I don't know why you would but if they say nope just I'm going to be 15 minutes late tardy. They they it's their option because comp time is they get to elect when to use it. They don't if they got time they instead of getting tardy that gets added on to their they can't really get a tardy they got time

that and that's that gives us or gives them this option and makes it very clear that's how we want everybody to handle that situation. that I don't I don't know why an employee wouldn't say yes use my comp time so I'm not party but it's their their call you want to take this under adisement or do this seems to make sense to me but I may be missing something that you're thinking of that I'm not

encouraging That's what worries me. Are they going to use that dish for No, but we had a situation where an employee was late. I don't know all the facts, but if I'm explain that wrong, correct me. Um, employee was late, had comp time. I think used comp time, but still got a tardy.

The difference was is this employee also had asked their supervisor if they could use comp time prior to coming onto shift. like at 7:30 7:00 they asked if they could use comp time and that was where this generated from. The supervisor wrote back yes that they could use their comp time. They came in a couple of hours later, you didn't even stress how much time they were going to use and then they were considered tardy um by the supervisor. And so that's Yeah. So once the supervisor then that's why Martin took this on itself to write up when you need more clarity to that if you if you approved them to use comp time without any discretion like if you have an issue like it's going to shut down the department they hope you know your your department then yeah you can put on you can use your comp time that you're going to be considered tardy if so it kind it just kind of makes this a little clear I didn't explain it very um to eliminate situations like that that we had come up.

I'm not arguing with it, but I personally would rather think about it a little more compared to the old one and see all the changes instead of right now. But that's me, right? So often we have early morning appointments, quad med, and it's scheduled or you've got to go get blood work and I might use 15 minutes of sick or vacation or personal whatever I want to use. Um, and I notify my supervisor that's within the law anyway. And they want more clarity

doesn't mean I'm going to be late. And there's times that yeah, maybe I I am late and I'm usually but I still call ahead. It's notifying your supervisor that it's the important part. Exactly. So if you did that and then Carrie wrote you up as tardy and did a written write up that you were tardy. That's that's what happened. We had a situation that happened similar to that and that's why Mark's saying if they're using that supervisor okay it turn around and tie. kind of and that's what happened. So we're trying to make it clear you should not count the tardy in that situation. I just don't want somebody to get in there clarity of getting in a habit of doing that.

Absolutely. It is a and I believe in there it says you have to notify your supervisor before the start of the work day. This is not a oh I slept in my alarm didn't go off. So right and that that's what this spells out a little bit more. You have to work with your supervisor. But then like in Janice's illustration there in her her example, if she went to quad run, we got a lot of guys go up there in the mornings and absolutely. And if you wrote up every one of those for being tardy, then they all let us know.

Right. Yeah. So again, this isn't really targeting any department. It's just giving a little bit more clarity to what that was since we've had a situation. So if you have the comp time willing to give up personal time and you be late five every day. Well, then you get into other issues with the book. Um you you you need to arrive on time. And so if somebody doesn't have the comp time, they're tardy.

That's where then disciplinary action can happen if you're repeatedly tardy. But if they do it several times, even though they have the time, they do they come in 15 minutes late routinely. Oh, I'll just use my comp time. Is there any punishment? That be a pattern. Yeah. Show a pattern. Yeah. And that's how the state handles theirs. Anytime you show a pattern of someone constantly using Yeah.

Yeah. And and it's supposed to be for un unforeseen circumstances. I think that's specifically stated. And so if and you're supposed to also get approval from your supervisor before you use comp time outside of that circumstance. So if somebody says, "Hey, I have two and a half hours of comp time. I want to come in a half hour late every day." And supervisor obeys that supervisor discretion. But if they just walk in a half hour late, say, "I had comp time. I'm going to use it."

Yeah. It is. I'm okay with it because I I I see where it gives the supervisors a little bit of leeway without getting like she said a pattern or a trend showing. Um there's still that avenue to take action if necessary. So I I'll make a motion to go ahead and accept the resolution amending the tardiness. There's been a motion and a second to amend the a resolution to amend the tardiness. All in favor say I.

I two to one. All right. Just let everybody know I don't know if everybody can track yellow and watch we are in orange. Yeah.

And I understand down south they have nothing but you go north it's like the totally different like even 8 in or 10 in difference. We have nothing down south. So after today after they run them again today we'll probably go back to yellow. But I just wanted to let everybody know. I know they do look at it. They look at the road down south and they're thinking, "What in the world is going on?" So

this is just a check to be signed. Remember the when you notorized that uh insurance claim, the check came in. And since you notorized it, I'd like for you to sign that so we can deposit it. And that was for an insurance claim loss on the room. So appreciate that, didn't I? Pardon? I forgot to stop in, didn't I? Correct. But that's all right. I I said I could get it. It's okay. No, I just

No, I told you I would. Either that or I would go. And then then what I have next is bridge plans 165 on uh 300 west. That's the new bridge. The letting date is supposedly this summer 78. And this is the uh cover sheet. And I need the board of commissioners. This is all this is because we're down to our final tracings with uh Butler Fairman Cipher. I need you to sign this and then I'll sign the bottom and then I need to send this into um back to Butler Fairma Cipher and then this will go on to end up dot when they put the final tracings in for this bridge design. So that's what this is and I'll get my pen and sign it first because it's It's cold.

I know we had two. We had work yesterday that we didn't have to but get one bad enough. Yeah. Well, I guess we had to build around it couldn't get around. I um you might want

We have today under the incidentals the things that come up. All right. I have a Marjorie Vanderpool. Is that correct? if you want to come up to the microphone. She is from Eagle's Point. Um I'll just actually She called I think it was last Friday because it was Gary was on his way out and I had him listen to the So this is the phone log. Um and I'll just read you the complaint and then you can build on whatever else you need to. So um again, Marjgery lives out at that equals point. Marjorie reported two recliners and a washing machine dumped on the roadside at 1859 Warhawk, Peru, Indiana. Marjorie has tried to contact the rental, which is ENB or EP estates LLC at 202 Shaw Avenue in Peru, Indiana. She said they won't do anything about it. Um, I got the parcel number there. the property owners would like to ensure the rental company is following the illegal county dumping ordinance and if necessary ensure a fine. The second page I went online on Beacon and I see that this EP purchased uh the rental out there on February 18th of 2025. So you can build on whatever you need to tell. So, we've always had issues out there um with people just dropping off whatever at the side of the road thinking somebody is going to pick it up and dispose of it even if it's not them. People we had sofas out there last summer for months after people moved out because it was not my problem. And with the new LLC that's taken over, they have instructed the HOA maintenance man. He is not allowed to go into the LLC office anymore to talk to them about any of

this stuff because they felt they were being harassed. They are not allowed to go to the homes themselves and approach them about this because that's the LLC's job. So now nobody is doing anything. And when I have gone up there and asked about a dresser that spent 3 months at the curb just beside the LLC office, I was told, "Well, how do you know that's a rental?" And I said, "How do you know it's not? Can you look into it and get rid of it?" And honestly, the only way this stuff has been getting cleaned up, I take pictures of it and I post it on all three Eagles Point Facebook sites and I shame them. And then all of a sudden things start to disappear because then other people get on there and say, "Yeah, we're sick of seeing this, too." And I've gone into HOA office and right now everything is nonfunctioning out there. So we have an HOA, but we don't we have not had meetings in two years. Nobody has seen any of the paperwork, the costs, the money going out. The man who is running the HOA office believes he is the HOA board. So, he is entering into contracts for new mowing crews and such without any um any bids being taken in. Nobody knows what he's paying them or where where he's paying them out of because we don't know. We're just given sent email saying, "Hey, we got a new mowing crew." So, nothing is being done according to the covenant, according to the state laws regarding HOAs. We have no board. We have no elected board. We have no access to what the where the money's going or how it's being spent. We don't even know who's paying this guy. So, from what we understand, it's the LLC that took over that installed him in this job and is paying his salary along with the maintenance man's salary, which is a conflict of interest and a

co-mingling of funds because we're supposed to be nonprofits. But when even if you go in there and ask, "Hey, can we do something about this trash?" We're told, "Well, we can't do anything. It's a rental." And if you go in the rental office, they're like, "Well, how do you know it's a rental?" So instead, we end up with We've got one house with toilets in the front that have been there for months where the LLC was remodeling and that's where it ended. We've got right across the road from the washer situation as a cabinet that's been laying at the side of the road for months. At one point they picked it up and tried to put it in a trash can and took it out. I guess it's an ongoing issue out there constantly. Somebody a month ago drug the sectional sofer sofa over to Dollar General and fill their dumpster with it. We got people that dumped the mattresses and the box springs out behind the old school which now the LLC owns. So they stopped doing the HOA stopped doing curbside pickup for that stuff four years ago. We haven't had anything like that for four years. And I think unless you're told as a renter that doesn't exist, you might be led to believe that it still exists. But there's no communication. And there are no mass mailings sent out to let people know what is or isn't proper, you know, but we're constantly dealing with homegoods left on the side of the road.

But you're still paying for it the HOA. Yeah, we're still making HOA payments. And by God, if you don't, you're going to start getting letters saying you're late and we want $35 for late fees. Am I correct? Who's running it? Am I correct to say that the HOA though and the EP um estate, they're two different entities? They are supposed to be two different entities. Yeah. One's a rental and the other the HOA or homeowners, right? Supposed to be. Yep. And the place that you said was dumped from was from the rental.

Was a rental. I don't know about the one across the road if it's a rental or homeowner, but homeowners get involved too. You know, they just leave it there. And apparently the trash berry is supposed to come and pick it up. So, and I've gone to the point cuz I mean I moved here 5 years ago and those of us who come and are are shaking rattling chains are newer to the to that area and we we put our money into this area. And yeah, my place was was cheap when I bought it. Was $32,000 five years ago. But in the meantime, I have repainted it. I I have landscaped it. I'm putting in a a fence backyard and the neighbor attached to me, her place looks like a little Swiss chalet now that she's put all this money into. And then you drive over to Warhawk, which is our main entrance, right? This is your first impression and here's all this junk on the road. We spent two years with lawn crews that never mowed. We had grass that was what was cal high because they never mowed. So, you know, branches fall down, nobody picks my It has become so run down, especially since this place took over. The It's uh this Eagles Point LLC is done from All State Property Management out of Tennessee. They don't answer their phones. They don't have a voicemail. They don't answer their emails. Nobody can get a hold of them. Supposedly, somebody looked into the property and it's supposed to be a vacant building. So, nobody even knows who these people are. They've never come to a meeting. They've never held a meeting. They've never introduced themselves to any of us. We don't know who they are. They just showed up one day. all the people in the uh rental office left and they brought in pe these other people who couldn't answer any

questions, didn't know what was going on, brought in crews of people to work on and fix places, which thank God, but then people were complaining because they had to use Google Translate to find out what was going on between them because none of them spoke English. You know, we still have houses that have tarps on roofs because the roofs were never fixed. And a lot of it is private landlords who have been allowed for years to just do what they want because nobody ever held them to the same standard or any standard with their properties. But um you know, it just every day it looks more and more run down when the weather was nice as well. I go out to the Eagles Point entrance with trash bags and pick up the litter. which supposedly our maintenance guy, that's his job is to keep the entrances looking good. Okay, where you at? I mean, we have we as homeowners have hired an attorney. We were told to do so by the attorney general's office because of the situation out there. We're paying for nothing. If you live in an HOA, you should at least have a guarantee that your property values will never go down because the place is kept to a standard. And that sure as heck ain't it. We got sidewalks that are completely destroyed. Nobody seems to know who's who's supposed to fix it. Is it supposed to be the community? Is it supposed to be the homeowner? Is it supposed to be the county? Because nobody wants to fix it. It's it's ridiculous. We constantly have people's yards dug up because the the uh the sewer lines are horrible, the water lines are horrible. So, as one guy fixes it, the guy down the road's got to fix his now because they keep plugging up, blowing up, you know, that that whole place is just gone to rack and ruin and

nobody seems to care. It's like, hey, we just live here. We just pay our bills or you live there and give me your money. It It's ridiculous. And those of us who have moved in and want to have a nice neighborhood and want to have a nice place to live that's affordable, it it just it just gets more and more trashy every every year there. And at the very least, if we can have something done where if you dump stuff on the curb and you moved out, at least your landlord maybe has to pay the fine for allowing you to just leave it there. And you know, the hope is that after it gets around that, oh my gosh, if you start leaving stuff at the curb, you're going to get a fine. And there's a possibility you might have to go to court and and explain why you're not cleaning this up. Maybe they'll stop doing it. I mean, you know, pooping one hand, wishing the other. But, uh, you know, I'm I'm one of those people. I've done corrections for 25 years. I'm very blunt. And I'll tell them, I said, you know, oh, well, I don't have a truck. U-Haul rents one every day. It even has a ramp. Menard's 1995. Go rent the Menard's truck. There is a way if you want to that you can dispose of your stuff so the rest of us aren't held responsible for cleaning up your mess.

Any advice for them getting an attorney to try to enforce covenants and revive the HOA? That's a great decision. That's what I was going to say before she said that they did. Yeah, we're looking at actually getting rid of the HOA because it's that bad and hopefully reorganizing because there's no where do you start is the thing

from the county's perspective. We can enforce our ordinance and I'm assuming what you're talking about with the label dumping is in the zoning ordinance. And so if it's the whoever the property owner or the renter or both of the property that puts these things out on the curve or on their property, we can send them violation notices if complaints are filed. If the this LLC doesn't own that property, we can't hold them responsible for what, right? Hold the the private land owners responsible. And so if you see these happening, um make a complaint to the zoning office down at the end of the

North Hall and Corey, Megan, Brooke will Brooklyn will investigate, see is this a violation of zoning orders or not. If it is, they'll start sending notices to the property owner and the the resident who lives there. That might get things done.

Yeah. I mean, we're way outnumbered, but we're vicious because nobody wants to live in a in a crappy place. And it should never have been allowed to get to the state it is right now anyhow. And it just got passed on to these new people who they don't care. Just send us your money. Send us your money. You We're never going to come look at where you live. We're never going to just keep sending us your money. So, and like I said, we don't even know where our HOA money goes to. Who knows? Well, like Mark said, if you go down to the zoning office. Yeah, I will.

And uh I guess keep us updated on your journey. It took us a while to find one. Nobody wanted to talk to us. We got a guy out of Danville. So, so when they call in, that brings us back to the highway department. You know, we have the illegal dumping in place and the ordinance was put in when Steve was still here. You're probably familiar or are you familiar with a little bit? Um, and then we we pick up. We shouldn't be picking that stuff up. We don't want to start that.

But usually on the illegal dumping, it's out of the middle tower. There's no houses. There is property here. I mean, out front of that house, somebody owned it or rented it or something, right? But out in the county, you don't know who. Yeah. And that much harder to try to enforce the ordinance versus I look, it's on your property. You put it out there, you take care of it, right? So, we can refuse. That was the question. We want to like we don't want to start that people's rent. We We'd be doing that every week. Yeah. No, that's not obligation.

Uh, did you give me back the cover page for that? And then did you even add one of these? Does she have the one of those?

Thank you. And thanks for signing a check. And I think that's all we have. couple of them and hopefully it'll be decent for the next ready. I'll be right back.

Take the orange. Good morning. Good morning. Uh this morning, Dave gave the three of you a letter um talking about exchanging some vehicles.

Um that one other thing is the only thing that I had uh for you today. Do you have any questions? How many re reliable vehicles will this put you up to? Um nine 10 had two lost to collections. Correct. Yes. And that's that's why one I'm having him hurry up and try to get at least one of these quick mention.

You're going to be good for a while. Yes. Yes. Yes. You know, we are uh we have we have one crown big left. We got rid of in the in the year end report. That was one of the things that I added that you did not see. Uh we got rid of five crown picks this year or this last year. So, we have one left. So, these two cars come in. We'll get rid of that last one. So, for the other five, were they scrapped or were they uh two of them were uh one of them was wrecked? Uh two of them were scrapped and the others were sold.

You have any questions on the transfer of vehicles which I understand that I I will have to uh we will have to uh advertised for this and then next month take it to the council meeting a vote on it. Okay. And he will and I explain to him since it's his money he just need he'll be request in that letter I he just back in same account be trading sounds good. And if you guys still approve today, I've already got paperwork sitting on my desk. I will take care of getting switched over for you.

Do I understand you have the money? Yes. Yes. With the new budget this year. Yes. I know we've talked about this and I checked I checked his credit rating before and I'm happy to be able to help out. I'll make the motion to approve this transaction. Second. A motion and a second to approve the transfer of two Dodge Durangos from the sheriff's department to the EMA. All in favor say I. I. Thank you. Same insurance policy, but I'll let our carrier double. I'll take all that. Thank you both.

Thank you. Um the last thing that I have Uh, does anybody have any questions about my year-end report I gave you last meeting? He explained very well during the EMA advisory board meeting. There were no questions. So,

and appreciate your work on that. That was very, very good. Thank you. Wonderful. Have a great day. You too. Uh, the other thing on the item is recommendation to reappoint Michael to the Healthc Care Foundation of Miami County. I would entertain a motion to do so. So move. Second. A motion and a second to reappoint Michael Tune to the Healthc Care Foundation of Miami County. All in favor say I. I. I.

And then you probably have some minutes. and the minutes. I'll make a motion to approve the minutes. Second. Motion, a second to approve the minutes. All in favor say I. I. I. Payroll we approve payroll. Second motion and a second to approve the payroll. All in favor say I. I.

I. We approve the second motion. Second to approve the claim. All in favor say I. I. I. Do you have anything for us?

I don't have anything. have anything else? That's it. Question. Yes, sir. I know I'm leaving in March, but do I get reappointed where I'm at or Martin? No, we don't reappointing or we don't have to. We don't have to. Does that physician need reappointed every year? I back in the day. You know what? I think it's Yeah,

we used to do it, but I haven't noticed it the last few years or we forgotten. Then should it be reappointed every year? I don't think it needs to be reappointed every year, but once there is that vacancy, it will an appointment will be made.

Yes. I know you don't want to take public comments, but it's regarding grisome. I was out there the other day. It was a beautiful day and I thought I'm just going to go out and see what's going on. Mainly I went out there to see the data center. Okay. And if you all have not been out to see the data center, you certainly need to go. I parked in the parking lot. I rolled down the window. I sat there. I listened to 10 fans that were up on the top on the roof of the building. Um, I observed black fabric hanging down uh like forming a barrier and I did call RMC uh to ask about what what is that fabric and what's behind it. There was a razor wire on the ground inside the fence area and I was told that those are servers behind that fabric servers out in the weather. There was a roof over it, just a lean to roof over it. And I was told that there was a gentleman who goes around every hour and blows the dust off of those fabric pieces that are hanging there. Now I did take a picture. The the area looks like third world country. I've never seen anything like it. I don't know why we allow such things to be ungrum. If I were looking to see if I wanted to build unresome, have a business established there or buy a building, uh that would drive me to not want to be there. And who who's in charge of of checking things out there? It the noise was incredible. People are complaining about the noise. Yes, it is

very very loud. And it's the same company, Digital Egg, that wants to put a building down on Old Stone Road. Those people who live around there have every right to complain about potential noise. But I also drove all the way around. I went down just about every road because that was my old stomping grounds when I grew up. I went to school with a lot of kids whose parents were in the Air Force. I spent a lot of time out there, you know, the swimming pool and and the teen club and all of that. that those grounds are the most pathetic looking areas I think we have in Miami County. Many years ago when I started coming to these meetings, Jim Tid said, "We need to get people in town to clean up their front porches because it's first impressions, first impressions that matter when people come into the town and they want to decide to build." Well, we need to look no further than our nose, Mr. Tib, because Gryom, where you would be meeting with Makita, would be the the stopping point if I were looking. I also drove down the housing development, People's Point. I couldn't believe. Talk about trash. I witnessed it. I know exactly what this lady is talking about. It is very disappointing. It is very disgusting. And if we want to develop Miami County, that is the place to start cleaning up.

I don't disagree, but we went on a I was on a tour with Jim showing us what all the county owns. And one of the biggest issues they have out there are properties that are owned, just like this lady was saying, by people from other states that refuse to keep it up. They don't They don't mow it. They don't Yeah. They don't care. or they just own a piece of properting development or actually no just the I don't even know what you call it the large area that looks overgrown and run down and Jim would say tore down the hotel. Yeah. And that was a what two-year process? Threeear process. No, I worked on it for four years.

Okay. Four year. Yeah. because we kept getting the homeless people that would that would wander through the subdivision and then go back over there to hunker down. And and that's the issue. That hotel was owned by supposedly someone in Florida, but they spent at minimum two years trying to track down an owner just like you were saying. They don't answer phone. Actually hired a private investigator. They should not figure it because I got no problem driving down. But I'm talking about not only the housing devel

I think Makita gets theirs mowed but there's other properties that they don't own that people don't take care of. So then that's up to us to start just like if it's a property out in country that's a mess or office goes out and looks at it and decides what needs to be done and pursues it. So those properties need to be done too. We're not going to change anything by ignoring it. It's not going to go away. It's only going to get worse. Well, it's sad because they built that that uh tower across 31 and everything and then you got that little museum there and then the ghetto, you know, the rest of it is overgrown. The rest of it just, you know, at least they cleaned up the old seminary, you know, when they started renting that out. But it's it's just so sad to go through there and see those patches of things. Don't disagree.

I'd love to put a botanical garden in there. They'll let me play in the dirt. So, what is the plan for for changing that? I mean, is that is that up to Jim T to be monitoring that, doing something, working with worrying about that? Who's responsible for like to get involved this summer about those that are not mowing their properties out there? Are we at the point? Well, you're not just I mean, I know we did a couple this past summer, but yeah, there's properties, let me know.

And it was late summer that I got the tour and Jim was saying that

entities own it that aren't around here and they don't respond and we do need to crack down on it. I think too gotten here after I made a filming and I think it was early August because we were having my class reunion and several kids that I went to school with were coming back and they said, "Oh, we can't wait to see Gryom." And I'm like, "What a disaster." Some of them went to see where they lived. Oh my lord. At the reunion, they were talking about it and how terrible it is. Boy, it and we're supposed to be getting businesses attracted to this county. That is the start of not getting businesses to come to the county.

Did you mean something else? Oh, I I'm happy to help on that. I will say we do have a limited budget. So especially when there properties out there on base like that will eat our whole budget which is fas can't do that many after that right so I'm I'm limited as well but well hopefully if you sent some notices that it would get taken care of and not have to cost your office we would hope again yeah one well at at the eagle's point the ha should be sending notices out to she's working on that.

We don't even have the pool was shut down last year. The workout whatever area was shut down. We don't even know. We're pay they haven't lowered our HOA fees, but we have no amenities now. I hope your lawyer can get to the bottom of that. Yeah. I have nothing. I move we adjourn. I'll second. A motion a second to all in favor say I.