Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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[Music] Hey, hey, [Music] [Music] hey. [Music] [Music] Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for attending our planning commission meeting tonight. I call this meeting to order at 6 pm. Madame Chair, can you please call roll? Commissioner Nighton here. Commissioner Ramirez here. Commissioner Thomas here. Vice Chair Holler here. Chair Madrid here. Okay, who do we have here? Sir, could you lead us in the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation

under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Okay, so there are no presentations. Are there chair? Um actually madam madam is there any modifications to the agenda? There are none. Okay. Can I ask the planning commission for an all in favor to approve the agenda? Yes. I I. Any opposed? Hearing none. The agenda is approved. Madame clerk, are there any requests to speak on non-aggenda items? I do have one request to speak. Brian Holly. All right, Brian. Welcome. Good. How are you? Yeah, I've seen you for a while, man. Uh, tonight I come here to everybody. Thank you all for listening to me. Um the senior community on the mostly the west side of the freeway uh has real concerns about truck traffic in the next uh four to six years when things are going to be built. A lot of the truck traffic um and we know all what this pertains to is going to go up and over onto Ethan onto the 215. But you know full well that every truck driver alive is going to be on his GPS looking for the shortest distance that he can get to the 215 or the 15 freeway. And when it comes to Ethan and the dog leg at at u uh Home Depot over there uh I guess you'd call it you call it Barnett. We still call it Sun City

Boulevard. Anybody can name it what it is. Uh but it's going to be a mess uh as people truck drivers try to get on. It's going to be a giant clog. Anybody that's been up the 215 freeway lately, uh you look at anything from um Harley Knox, anywhere over there, uh all the truck traffic that's trying to get on and off the freeway uh to get to their uh designations. The only other way it for these trucks to go is down Sun City Boulevard to McCall and beyond. Um or they can go up Ethanac, hang a left, go south on Myrietta Road and try to cut across on Railroad Canyon. I know that they're going to run into a lot of troubles with the police departments around and I'm asking tonight and I will ask over and over again um for the city council and you guys to make sure that there is something um of not just the signage um but I know the Metife Police Department will really do a lot for uh enforcement of taking care of this. The roads can't stand it. Um, and getting tangled up with the bad drivers that we have in Sun City. Remember a long time ago at Stater Brothers, they had a a thing that went around your license plate. It said, "Pray for me, I drive in Sun City." And u, it's still that way to this day. U, golf carts don't tangle well with trucks. trucks don't do good on on our roads. Uh because I'm sure when Dell Webb and the county put them in, they didn't put them into the standards of

today. So, I'm here just today 4 321 is to ask please watch over that for us. Thank you. Thank you, Brian. Madam Chair, any more speakers? Not on non-aggenda. So, um Just as a um disclaimer to that, I want to read this public statement. What we just heard from Brian Holly was uh not the time for members of the public to address the commission about items which are not listed on the agenda. The Ralph M. Brown Act limits the commission's ability to respond to comments on non-aggendaized matters at the time such comments are made. Each speaker will be limited to three minutes on any single item. And there are no further speakers. So, let's move on to the approval of the minutes. There there's one set of minutes for the planning commission's approval. Does the planning commission have any modifications? No. Could I ask planning commission for all in favor to approve the April 23rd 25 minutes? I I I Any opposed? Hearing none. The minutes are approved. There are no consent calendar items. um for public hearings. Before we begin the public hearing, I'd like to briefly explain the procedures. Following the staff presentation and any st questions from the commission, I will open the public hearing. The applicant will then have an opportunity to speak followed by members of the audience who wish to address the commission. Each speaker will be given up to three uninterrupted minutes to provide their comments. Please note that the commission will not be able to respond to comments or questions posed during the public comment portion, but may raise questions or issues with staff or the applicant after the public hearing is

closed. Okay. I want to make a another disclaimer. So, we're going on to item 9.1, Catalina. uh Michael Knighton and myself u in obedience with the Brown Act, we met with the applicant to go over their project at a lunch uh meeting about six weeks ago. You're accurate. Okay, that's okay. So, this is an item 9.1. Could the acting community development director please introduce the item? Shar, thank you. Uh the item will be presented by Russell Brown. There's a lot of history with this project, almost 20 years of history. So he will try to condense us to a few minutes. So all right, thank you Orlando and good evening, Chair Madrid and commissioners. Evening. Um all right. So as as previously uh mentioned the item before you uh tonight is related to um the previously approved Cantalina specific plan and it consists of tenative track map 38372, tenative track map 38682 and plot plan PLN22-0202. So, the Cantalina project site is located in the souththeastern quadrant of the city, if you will, uh, east of Interstate 215 and Analopee Road, north of Scott Road, south of Garbani Road, and west of Haleiblian and Meny Road. The site is currently vacant and consists of approximately 159 acres.

So again, as uh Orlando mentioned, there's quite a bit of history with this project. Um again, if as I'm going through the presentation, if you want to stop me at any time and ask some questions, feel free to do so. If not, um you know, we'll be available for questions at the end. But um if you want me to elaborate on on a certain section, um I can definitely do so. But I tried to abbreviate this as much as possible. Uh but in February 2006, the Cantalina EIR and the specific plan was approved by the county. Uh in June of that year, a tenative parcel map, tenative parcel map number 33739 was also approved by the county and that essentially approved um that divided the cantalina specific plan into six large parcels. That was actually recorded that map was recorded in December of 2023. In November 2007, tenative track map 33732 was approved by the county. And there's more I'll provide some more insight uh regarding that map on future slides here. In June 2020, an addendum to the SP EIR was approved as well as several time extensions for that underlying map. Uh the purpose of the addendum was to clarify existing regulations and mitigation measures. um as they related to biological concerns on site and that was completed in 2020. In March 2022, uh the city received the official application for the two track maps and the plot plan that's before us tonight. And last month, April 2025, the project did go before the parks, wreck, and trails commission for recommendation. And that brings us here tonight, May 2025, for the planning

commission. So again, the property is located, it is the Cantalina specific plan. So it's all 158 acres there, SP number 334, as approved by the county of Riverside in 2006. Uh, properties to the west are zoned economic development corridor, community core. Properties to the south are zoned RR1. Properties to the north are zoned LDR2 and properties to the east are zoned a combination of RR2 which is rural residential 2acre minimum and the LDR1 there on the south. Um it should be noted that the um the applicant the project as proposed does not contain any sort of specific plan or general plan amendments. of the maps as being proposed and as we'll go into future slides here are consistent with what was previously approved in the specific plan and again we'll go over that in more detail here in these upcoming slides. So again a bit more history on the land use map as was approved in the specific plan and as is active and um you know effective applicable today. Uh the SP was approved consisting of 10 planning areas, seven of which are residential. There's a school site, a park, and uh a large drainage channel that runs through, I guess, meanders through uh the the SP. Um the table on the right there shows each planning area uh shows the land use category of each uh the acreage the size of it as well as the number of dwelling units that the that is approved in the specific plan. So the key number here is the in the lower right corner there is 935 units. So the specific plan was approved for 935 units. the maps

that are um the maps that are before you tonight still fall within that that 935. There's no plus or minus. And I guess should it should also note there that um the school site there is an option um that if the a school district does not wish to purchase the school site that can be um essentially turned into additional residential units. Um, again, I think the applicant um when they give their presentation can elaborate on this a little bit further, but um I believe the intent is to reserve that for the school district. I don't think they have any immediate plans to purchase it, but I think they would like to have it reserved as as the school. Um, but again, we can have the applicant elaborate on that a little bit further, but that could potentially be an additional 144 units in that site. But again, that's not part of why we're here tonight. That's just some background on the SP there. So again, the um there was a tenative track map that was approved in 2007 and that's tenative trackm 33732. Uh the tenative track map is still active today. U the applicant is actually processing some final engineering plans uh for two of the planning areas which is planning area one and planning area 8. Um, the tenative track map includes 94 acres of the entire 158 acres within this specific plan. The approved map was for 296 more traditional single family lots that range in size from 5,000 square feet up to 10,000 square feet or so. And it also includes the large nearly 14 acre park. And again that that uh map is still

active today. Um even four of the planning areas um I guess for one two seven and eight. Um the following slides as I'll go into further detail here is they're essentially um kind of remapping a couple of the planning areas if you will. So, uh, and this is what obviously brings us, uh, before the planning commission tonight is what they're proposing. Um, which is essentially two new track maps to replace what was previously approved in planning areas 2 and 7. Um, tenative track map 38682 encompasses planning area seven there on the right side of the screen, which is um, heading in the northern direction. That's along Garbani Road there and Haleian Road. Uh, and this consists of 105 units. And then the other track map is 38372. That's closer to Scott Road on the left side of the screen or to the south and which covers planning two and three and consists of 135 and 154 units respectively. The proposed project also consists of a major plot plan application for the multifamily portion of planning area 3. So the SP um was approved to allow for transfer of dwelling units from one planning area to another. The SP actually states as it's on the screen there, in order to allow for flex density flexibility and residential diversity, the transfer of dwelling units from one planning area to another within the specific plan may be approved as part of the original SP approval or as part of a tenative map approval process. And that's essentially what we're doing here tonight. An increase in dwelling units in one planning area must always be accompanied by a corresponding decrease in dwelling units in another

planning area. And u the uh table I guess on the on the bottom half of the slide there summarizes the larger table on the right. Um but the let's see um I guess the the columns all the way on the left indicates the planning area. Column number two uh indicates a a unit range that's approved in this specific plan. um column the third column over identifies a number that was the target number in the specific plan. Uh the fourth column over is the proposed units. So that's what's being proposed tonight. And then the the last column is the difference of the two. So again, um the big highlights would be planning areas two and planning area 7. They're increasing in in residential units. However, that's accompanied by a decrease in residential units in another planning area. the overall approved units and the proposed units still at the 935 mark for obviously a difference of zero. So to get into a little bit more specifics on the individual planning areas and what's being proposed I guess for before I tap into that I guess more we'll continue with the comparison. So the image on the left shows the conceptual site plan of what was approved um with that prior map 38372 or I'm sorry 33732 and that was the 83 units of more the traditional single family home on approximately 5 to 6,000 square foot lots. Um the image in the middle is the 135 unit conceptual site plan as proposed. Um there when the SP when the specific plan I apologize I keep saying SP but when the specific plan or SP was

approved um there was some consideration for um you know the adjacency of the rural residential area. So, as was approved uh in the the specific plan on the left and on the right, there are larger lot sizes along Scott Road, which would be on the bottom side of the screen, um which are the 10,000 square foot lots. And then there's an additional setback area buffer along the right side of the screen adjacent to Haleian Road to provide an additional buffer from some of the more rural residential lots to the to the east. Um the conceptual site plan as you can see there is um a change in I guess residential housing type. It's more of the it's a motor court typical motor court design that we're commonly seeing here in the city. Your 24 foot drive aisles with your 10-ft separation between the different buildings and a 10-ft rear yard setback. The project also includes a couple different pocket parks as you see on the slide there. Um as well as a a botchi ball court with some additional guest parking. Um there is full access driveways to the adjacent planning areas which is the planning area three as indicated by the blue stars and uh there's some pedestrian connections to those planning areas as well. one of the uh in reading through the the 20-year-old specific plan, it was pretty evident that uh the the way it was drafted, there was a strong importance on um you know connectivity and walkability within the specific plan. So there's lots of trails, sidewalks, um along all the major roadways, but also internally there's poos um that connect all the various planning areas. So planning area 7 which is the more

northern tract adjacent to Garbani road uh similar to the uh the prior slide um as shown on the left here was more 70 units of more the traditional 5 to 6,000 square foot traditional single family residential lots. Um as you'll see on the right side again it's the motor court design. Um the project also includes similar to the the other tract uh a couple pocket parks scattered throughout and again this is in addition to the large 14 acre park that's more centrally located but these are more obviously accessible to the residents in the immediate vicinity including you know turf areas, shade structures, benches and then also as you can See on the slide there's the ped pedestrian connection points that are being proposed. The one on the right side of the screen is a direct access connection for pedestrians to Haleian road and then the one on the southern side of the screen is connect uh it connects to that lower planning area another residential area planning area 78 or planning area 8. Um it's a po that connects you all the way down to the the main park. So again, as I previously touched on, um the specific plan does have um certain requirements for the edge conditions. Obviously, some of the the surrounding properties to the to the east as well as to the south are more rural in nature. So the way this specific plan again was previously approved in 2006 that it was approved with 10,000 square foot minimum lots along Scott Road uh as well as 10,000 square foot minimum lot sizes along Hallelian Road in planning area 7 there.

Um the approved underlying map has those minimum lot sizes that is also consistent with the proposal that's before you tonight. the project applicant and their team designed their project to to mirror that. Um, in addition, there's the 20 foot setback in planning area 2 along Haleiblian opposed to a standard 10-ft rear yard setback elsewhere in the tract. So, there is some additional buffering. So planning area three um is the major plot plan application is for the multifamily component of the project which is within planning area 3 and that consists of the 154 units. Um there's more centrally located is the pool area and restroom building. In the um northeastern corner is a approximate 11,000 square foot um dog park area as well as um turf area. And then additionally um the project consists of 404 parking stalls. Um each individual unit has their own enclosed parking garage and then there's additional guest parking scattered throughout. Um the project includes again as previously mentioned pedestrian connections. So to the north or on the top side of the slide would be the future school site. So, as you can see by the red stars, there's some pedestrian connection that would allow for, you know, easy access to the school for nearby residents here and then um connection to that planning area to to the to the east. Uh the blue stars indicate full access driveways. So, the site does include two full access

driveways which allows for the you know increased more efficient circulation. And just briefly, the the floor plans of what's being proposed. So, um there's a total of 14 buildings. Um those buildings are comprised of kind of two product types, if you will. Uh it's the um I guess 14 buildings, but also the product type on the left's the first floor plan. Uh it includes 14 units, residential dwelling units per building. Also, there's kind of that the half plan um which includes seven units per building. Um the the dwelling units within range from onebedroom, one bath approximately, 1100 ft² with the garage to three bedrooms and 2 and 1 half bath almost 2400 square ft. So the architectural design guidelines presented in this specific plan uh provide a general framework for the quality and character of the built environment expected within the cantalina development. the the guidelines are intended to ensure a consistent level of quality design that accommodates the emerging architectural trends and also supports the green building practices. So questions have come up regarding kind of the architectural theme or style that's that's being proposed of the project. So the there are guidelines that were already approved 20 years ago within the SP. um and it's more of a a Tuskan or Mediterranean theme and that's what's being proposed um within planning area 3 the multif family component. So it's um consistent or it consists of two French country inspired architectural styles for each building type as well as two color two color variations as well. The elevations will incorporate a combination of full height stone and

stucco, decorative gable roof siding with exposed brackets and braces and detailed window and patio openings, arched entryways. Uh in addition to all this um the homes will have decorative garage doors, decorative lighting and finishes unique to to the two architectural styles. Oops. I guess we can keep going. Um I guess one more thing to note is um so because the major plot plan application was required um for the multif family portion of the project that's why we have the building elevations for the planning area 3. Um we don't have we don't require building elevations for the planning areas two and seven as they're more the traditional um you know standalone single family development. So they will have to come back in um and staff will review uh the building elevations for planning areas two and seven uh at an administrative level. Staff will review and make sure that they are consistent with the the themes there that are identified in the specific plan. So that's why we we don't have slides showing that. I guess jumping ahead to uh the park within planning area 9. So the s the specific plan included a conceptual park plan. However, because the two new maps are being proposed in the uh and the conceptual plan was approved, you know, in 2006, uh prior to cityhood, we thought it best to take the project back before not back before for we wanted to take the project

to the PRTC for their recommendation and get uh feedback uh from you know city members. Uh there were again two options were proposed to the plan uh to the PRTC last month. The image on the left there was the image directly out of the specific plan. Uh it's got two ball fields. It's got the community wreck building similar to what's being proposed in in option two. um the project and or the project applicant and their team worked quite a bit with planning staff as well as with our community services department to come up with the with the design for the track. So, as as you likely know, we don't have any other facility like this in the city at least that's at least open to the public. There could be a couple schools that have it, but again, not necessarily open to the public. So, um, the project applicant, they, you know, at the kind of direction and suggestions of the community services department put together the the concept there on the right, which includes that eight lane track with a a multi-use turf field in the center, natural grass. Um either design includes a 16,500 foot community building and um option two includes the 139 on-site parking spaces and of course there's additional street parking along uh via Tuscana there to the north that could support any sort of overflow parking. Um the PRTC um had some questions of the applicant, but they ultimately ended up agreeing and voting on option two, the option with the track, and recommended that as approval to the planning commission tonight as a vote of 50. And again, this is just a conceptual elevation of that community center

building. Um they will the project applicant will have to come back in with a minor plot plan application for any sort of programming of the community center. But as as proposed again conceptual in nature it includes the uh telescopic bleachers, restrooms, concession stand um as well as offices. The restrooms will be um accessible um to members or of the public that use the track. They're not locked. Um they're not they're not locked. Um if the gym's closed, they're still open to the public. So then jumping getting into the SQA review, the environmental review. So again, in February 2006, the county approved canolina specific plan and certified ER number 463 for the project. um also approved the MMRP as well, the mitigation and monitoring reporting program. In December 2007, um a minor addendum was done for some technical cleanup to the EIR. In June 2020, the city approved addendum number two to the ER and again that was to clarify uh some some existing ongoing um biological uh concerns that are taking place on site. Um and then obviously there's based on what's being proposed as part of the project all of that has already been analyzed in the in the existing EIR and therefore uh with the conditions of approval and with the approval and adoption of the mitigating with the MMRP um no additional SQL analysis is required. it's been addressed adequately in the ER. And so staff's recommend

recommendation tonight is to determine the two track maps, tenative trackm 38372 and tenative trackmap 38682 as well as the major plot plan PLN22-0202 make the determination that they do not require any additional SQL analysis and direct staff to file the NOE notice of exemption. Second would be to adopt a resolution approving the tenative track map and plot plan. And then I guess let me rephrase that. So number two would be adopt a resolution approving tenative trackmap 38372 and plot plan number PLN22-0202. And a second and third action would be to adopt a resolution approving tenative trackm 38682 for the Cantalena project. And I guess quickly um we we did receive a couple comment letters on the project. Um again unrelated to NEC unrelated to SQA but um just more concerns. Uh one of them was from Jim James Wong. He had questions about drainage, um, fire and traffic. Um, we met with Mr. Wong on Monday afternoon and we feel we addressed most of his comments and concerns. And then this afternoon we received an email um from a Miss Renfro. She had questions comments about traffic and then we received a comment from Valleywide with questions on maintenance for the parks. So that completes uh staff's presentation. I'm available. We're available if you have any comments or questions. Uh the project applicant and their team is available as well. Thank you. Thank you, Senior Planner Brown. Commission, do we have any comments for staff?

Just have one question on the park with the with the track and field and all that. Is that fully the construction and being funded by the developer? The full construction cost. It is. Yes, that is correct. Ivan, I'll go ahead and ask. Um, first of all, you did a great job on the presentation. There's a lot of moving parts over the years and I don't necessarily have a question but but I do want to recap some of those things just to make sure that everyone understands what's going on. So the so the specific plan was approved back in 2006 I believe um along with a certification of an EIR maybe in ' 07 two addendums to other environmental documents. Um, so the actions that are contemplated this evening are really and I'm going to I'm going to use um phrasing that's not technically correct, but just for ease of communication. So really talking about some of the parts and pieces inside. So the total number of units that were approved uh back in ' 06 was 930 something and the total number of units that are being considered today are 930 something. Right? There's no change in that and that specific plan was still in force. That is correct. That is correct. So the so the actions that again are being contemplated I just related I know it's not technically correct. Forgive me for putting it this way. It's just a couple of parts and pieces. To be more technically correct, on on three of the planning areas, we're looking at different tenative track maps, but it's just parts and pieces. No additional units. That ship sailed

years ago. That is correct. That is correct. That is correct. Yeah. To match your verbiage, they're kind of shifting around some internal outlines is basically what they're doing. The overall parameters are not changing. Um there's no additional improvements necessarily required of this project. Um it's you are correct. It's that these are essentially implementing maps of what was already approved by the county. Correct. And those are those are subject to our you know comments and review this evening but the overall specific plan number of units that's not that's really what I wanted to clarify. Thank you Mr. Chair. Thank you Commissioner Holler. Commissioner do you have any questions? Yes, thank you. Um has how has the project incorporated updated wildfire risks, flood hazard zones, and emergency evacuation standards um from the revised safety element? Well, um again, the specific plan was approved in 2006 before, you know, the city's general plan was in effect. Um however um in reviewing the new maps they were reviewed against you know all the latest codes and regulations that would apply to the project. So for example um as many of you may know there's new fire maps that came out and so we did review that the fire the our fire marshall's office did review the project against that. We did notice that um the project may have not originally been in uh one of the fire zones. The project now is a very small corner of it is within you know the fire zone. Um however the project has been conditioned accordingly. Um one of the entire planning areas now meets the more stringent and um you know updated

standards for construction. So um you know we we have reviewed it against the fire map for that's an example. Um, obviously the California building code and fire codes are constantly being upgraded. So when they do submit their construction plans for the houses, they'll be, you know, reviewed with the latest, you know, Cal Green requirements um for earthquake for so thank you. And I also want to ask if um it also has incorporated the most up-to-date traffic circulations. Yeah. So um a traffic report was originally done in with the original EIR so pre206 uh we did receive an updated traffic report in 2022 and to uh you know incorporate and to make adjustments based on you know how meny has been meny as well as surrounding cities have been expanding. So correct so we do have an updated traffic report as of 2022. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. I'm sure the applicant will want to expound on those questions when he comes up. Commissioner Nighton, um Mr. Brown, thanks for the presentation. Um back talking about infrastructure, can you please explain um how the applicants going to be taking care of the additional need for traffic signals um things like that, especially with the Garbani interchange and Scott Road interchange and the impact these 935 homes are going to have on that in regards to like tum fees, diff rbds, um plus the signals they got to put in road widings, um the paving of the road to the um east. Can you explain all that please? I will uh hand it over to

someone who can. Absolutely. Chris. Hi, good evening. Uh Chris Herren, associate engineer with land development. Uh so as part of the specific plan and the underlying track map conditions the original map uh they do they are required to install certain traffic signal improvements uh associated with occupancy dwelling. So uh prior to the first dwelling unit for example uh they're putting in signals at Scott Road and Via Tuscana also known as via Cantalina. Uh, prior to the 501st dwelling unit, they're responsible for a traffic signal at Palomar and Garbani. Uh, and then prior to the 9001st dwelling unit, uh, they're required to put a traffic signal at Scott Road and Bellamy, also known as Alibian Road. Um, that's just a few of them. They also have other signal improvement requirements. Uh, however, a lot of these ones since the original conditions were written, have already been installed. for example, Scott and Analopee um and uh signals at the 215 ramps. Yeah. What about the additional fees and things like that they need? Yes. Yeah, they they would still be responsible for their the T fees and the RBBD fees associated with it. Uh they are part of the uh CFD05-8 annexation which was the the original CFD annexation for the site. Um, so I believe they are uh able to file an agreement with WRCOG in regards to the the cost of those T fees and perhaps they can expand a little bit on that one, but they they are part of that CFD and they are still responsible for those necessary occupancy fees. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Chris. I have no further questions, but I again I want to commend staff on an excellent job. Thank you. And so if there's no further questions

from commission, okay, I'll open the public hearing at 6:41 p.m. Uh, Madame Cler, can you confirm that the item was legally noticed and if any correspondence has been received? Yes, it was legally noticed and the correspondence is in your folders. Okay. Thank you. So now I'd like to invite the applicant to the podium to speak. It if we can get the applicant's presentation up please. Hey Bri. Hello chairman Madrid members of the planning commission. Thank you very much. While we're bringing up the presentation um just a little bit of introduction. Brian Hardy with Richland Communities. Right. Um we have a few other projects here in the city as well like Golden Meadows project and another project up in the Meny North Pacific plan. Um been long time uh working in the city of Meny and even before um it was a city in fact um you know I Russell's probably sick of hearing me tell this story. Um maybe if you if we're successful tonight, you won't have to hear it anymore, but um I actually took this project in as a as a contract planner at the county of Riverside um back in 2004 uh with Blue Stone Communities. And believe it or not, 20 years later, here I am again. It's back to haunt me. But uh hopefully uh we can bring it forward. The project does have a lot. It's highly amenized. um you know back in time when it was approved back in 2007 there was a lot of major concessions made you know and all those things have high costs and and so there's some high hurdles to cost I mean we've been through some pretty good markets here and there and you know this project hasn't moved forward we're trying to work within the specific plan and implement the pro plan without changing it and and changing the goalpost um and make a successful

project that works for everyone and bring these amenities forward. So, um, and again, I want to thank Russell also and staff. Russell had to jump into this midstream, uh, when Brett Hamilton moved on back to Utah. Um, and, uh, so, you know, Brett had a really good understanding of the project and Russell had to jump into this thing and it is a very complicated project and we appreciate his help, you know, and getting up to speed so fast. So, and again, his his presentation covered a lot. So, I'm just going to hit on a few other things um that might answer a few questions and then hit on some of the public benefits. So, there were some questions about uh traffic signals. Um I I think before I even talk about the traffic signals, one of the biggest things I want to mention is the project is not conditioned to pave Haleblian currently. Uh when approved by the county, it was actually something that the neighbors on that side of the road did not want. They wanted a more rural character and they wanted the road to be dirt. Um, so we had an outreach meeting um, about a year ago back when Brett was still here, maybe a little longer. Um, and over at the elementary school and and we we really didn't know what was going to come of that, whether it was still wanting to be unpaved or to pave it and and we did hear resoundingly to pave it. Um, so this is one thing that is a part of this that is above and beyond what was required that we've added in. And assuming we are approved tonight, um that will be a new condition that's added and that's about a million dollars worth of cost that's being added to the project to pave that. Um we are signal installing the signal at uh via cantalina and Scott um and then Garbani and via Tuscana which is our project entry palomar. Uh we show on here and Scott as as fair fair share but we will be installing it. Um, one of the questions that was asked was, was there

an updated traffic analysis done? Well, there was. Um, and actually, if you look at that and you look at the impact of the project to Haleibly and Scott, we only have about a 7% fair share based on the updated traffic analysis mainly because we have no access to Halebian. The project was designed that way on purpose. So, we have a very low impact, but we are we are um still installing that signal. So I would say over in all this project will not only just mitigated traffic, it's going to be helping traffic by installing that signal where we have a very low impact to it. Um and then obviously having Helibian as a paved road as opposed to a dirt road. I've driven through there a few times. I mean it's it's it's a difficult road to traverse and now having it be paved will be a game changer. Okay, let's see. And I have all my staff here or all my team consultant team here for any of the technical areas if anyone has questions. Um just one real quick point of emphasis I did notice and correction planning area 7 clusters the cluster detail for these the detached um I wanted to clarify um in PA7 they have full driveways um not the partial driveway I think the little cluster detail for planning area 2 was um was used for planning area 7 but these are the larger c clusters um with full driveways in planning area What else? Uh just some of the benefits and fees that we want to talk about. Um you know this is not everything but just some of the notable benefits. It's about 9 million in diff fees that the project will pay over time. Um that's a conservative number. Um and that's all to the city. Um in addition, there's

about 8.8 million in school fees that'll be generated uh to the different districts through the development of the project offsite and mitigate for uh the the students generated by the project. Um there was a question about the school site. They are actually itching to get that site. Uh they call me about every six months or so just to see where we're at. um you know to have a a a blue top pad that's ready to roll with utilities and curbs and everything for a school is is pretty stellar uh because they can go and just build and go vertical. Um so there's a lot of benefit and they definitely have a need. They they plan on putting an elementary school there. Um and and you know I think that'll come fairly soon. It's it's totally up to them. It's on their option but they plan to do it. Uh the traffic improvements roughly those those three signals is about 1.35 million. Um and that those are private development de dollars. If the city were to develop those it would be sign significantly higher um due to prevailing wage and things like that. Um and then we have our fair share on another signal as well. And and like I mentioned this the 7% is actually going to be a full construct. Allebian, I mentioned it's about a million dollars of of extra costs that we're um putting into the project. And then we have our community center that was always conditioned as a part of the project. Um and it's a it's a major major uh community benefit and it comes with a major price tag. Um and that comes in at the 600th unit and that's about $5.8 million of public benefits and that's a basketball court as Russell alluded to in interior basketball court. Um we did go to parks commission. We were we were working with a plan that was about 20 years old on our park um on the concept and it it needed some work. I mean it was basically just checking

some boxes of putting amenities in a space um and we worked with uh staff and and came and our landscape architect and we were originally going to do the baseball fields um but we looked at an option for the track with the with the football field on it. Um, and we went to parks commission and we were ready to accept either approach. Um, but full circle they wanted the track and they felt that it was going to be a pretty neat amenity for for the city that doesn't exist today. Um, in terms of housing costs, I mean, the the approved map that was approved at the county has a lot a lot of large lots, a lot of high dollar homes. Um, we kept, you know, a half of that approximately on the the phase we're working on for phase one. Um, but we overwrote those with more attainable product. Um, you know, instead of having all product that's in the sevens or eights, you know, now we've got product that's in the fives with the cluster. And then you've got your higher density in planning area three, but it, you know, we by by doing this, it allowed us to not maximize the density on planning area three. And we're actually towards the the lower density side uh for the high density range on planning area 3. Uh but wide range of of housing costs. We've got, you know, those 10,000 square foot lots that are going to be be pushing a million dollars, high nines all the way down to your town homes. And we've got a a smaller flat in there that could be in the threes. And then you've got price ranges with logical steps all the way in between, you know, where you can move up and you have more attainable housing product, not just high dollar homes. So, I won't uh I don't I don't Russell covered so much. I don't really want to uh waste everyone's time, but I'm here for questions. I've got the whole consultant team here, too. Uh don't ask us any biology questions. Our biologist couldn't make it, but I'll I'll be happy to try if you do. Thank you, Brian. And

you agree with the conditions of approval? Yes, sir. Including the one. Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Thomas. Yeah. How many parking stalls are at the uh track and field park? Um do we have a I it's basically at the minimum or it's the required amount um per Well that was part of what our parks commission was looking at and 139. Yeah. Okay. And then there's also some bonus parking on the street that didn't count but the street parking as well but the on-site parking meets the the required parking. Okay. Correct. And then I don't know if staff or you could talk about the motivation for putting in the track and field in there. I I agree with it. I think it's nice, but it's it's it's definitely unique. Did Did any did the parks commission talk about their goals in having that there? Maybe you could expound on that. Um, you know, it was I think um you know, an effort that that came to fruition. um that originally started with the community services department and again I think the idea um was to get something new open to the public. I don't know exactly uh where it came from, but um you know, as the city of Meny continues to grow, we're seeing a lot of u you know, new housing projects coming forward and a lot of them have the same feel of the ball fields. And so I think it was was an idea to try try something unique, get something different that we don't have. Um and again, it it it's it's a pretty neat idea. It's got the the sports field lighting so people could walk at night if they choose to. um uh traffic will be minimized compared to the ball fields where you have the overflow traffic. So um you know I don't know exactly why why that was chosen other than the reasons I mentioned. Well that gives a few more clues you know. Yeah that's interesting. Uh does the

city envision because it is unique and large maybe holding more of the community events there? Oh there you go. So that's what I'm getting at is that it's like an opportunity to Yep. No, we agree. We agree. Absolutely. Just a little bit of context, too. Just we also I don't know if we talked about it, but there's the area for the food trucks in the park, you know, for so that we part of the design is to allow for that kind of area for food trucks and events and that becomes like an event lawn. And then and then for baseball, I know you know it still could be used. It's like a multi-purpose field for your like te-ball for practice or even games, you know, if you put the field the bases out. Um, so it's it's very much flexible space. Uh, so is the infield artificial or natural grass? It's natural grass. Yeah. Thank you, Commissioner Thomas. Commissioner RmIrez. Hi. Um, I'm going to piggyback on Commissioner Thomas's uh questions. The infield of the track, is that can it have a diverse use for the infield of the track? Well, I would defer to the parks um team on there what their plan there is because ultimately it's going to get turned over to the city, but it's going to be basically like a big um grass area that could fit a football field or could be a vent lawn. Um, you could do, you know, small soccer field practices there. You could do baseball practices there with, you know, just putting out some bases and things like that. Um, I mean, I spent a little time in the Bay Area and, you know, my oldest son, he plays baseball. He's going into high school to play baseball and he started T-ball on a field like that and they threw out the little bases and we played T-ball. So, um, it's very flexible. Um, so that's part of the appeal. and then you know

with a baseball field it's not as flexible. So, and then um in terms of green space I I know that the the park satisfies and exceeds the Quimby related park dedication. Um but throughout and I see that for the PAS that we're looking at currently there's small parks. Now will that be throughout the different PAs as well in terms of green space and will there be like I guess usable green space for uh organized well that field would be one of the major ones and then there's a series of other like amenities and things throughout for depending on the the density of the products and things there's other there's art nodes there's trail connectivity there's all sorts of amenities and trails and things throughout the site and there's a series of things to do. Okay. Because one of the one of the we have a park deficit so I'm really about green space and so I'm hoping that that's something that could be incorporated in the other PAS as well. Yeah. And then also I it's ch it changes all the time with the updated general plan but we were overparked uh in terms of at one point I don't know where the latest count is but we were over the required amount before that. So okay and then also the community center is on there as well and so like for when you're that we don't get any credit for that in terms of quimby because it's not like an acreage thing. So you have the community center that's there as an amenity that is, you know, providing a a major recreation facility that's over and above uh the Quimby requirements. And then I have another question, sorry. Um in terms of community outreach, you reached out with regard to the paving of I'm going to butcher the the street

namely. Yeah. Yes. Um has any other community outreach been um you inquiried with the community in terms of what the current plans are and the changes to the maps? Well, this plans existed for quite some time. It's it's been approved even prior to the city being a a city. Um so there when the specific plan was approved I you know there was significant outreach done as well. That was where a lot of the heavy lifting was. Uh we know that the neighbor to the other side to the west, Jim, um we've been working with him significantly. He's the one that issued the letter. Um and then we the main one was on the discussion of the neighbors directly to the east of the site and the we went through not just paving or not, but the whole project update as well. And that was open to anyone that wanted to come and staff attended that also that meeting. So it wasn't just talking about paving of holy blind. That was a major component, but we went through the whole project as well. Thank you for the clarification. Yeah, Mr. Knight. Hey, Brian. Hello. Got a couple questions for you. Okay. Um, uh, first question, the signal at Elian Scott. Sorry for butchering that. I'm pretty sure I'm pronouncing it right, but there's a chance it's I'm saying it wrong and everyone's laughing at me on TV right now. Is there any uh any thought about um modifying the condition to install that signal earlier? I know um residents in there. That's that's kind of a a nasty area making a left turn on a Scott road. Are you talking on via Cantalina or and Scott? Well, let me ask you this. Let me just get clarification rather

than the uh fair use. You are building a signal at Haliban and Scott. Yeah. asking. So, keep in mind our actual traffic analysis says that we should only have to pay for 7% of it and we are constructing it. Um, so I this project the reason this project hasn't moved forward is there's so many front-loaded costs and you know all of these benefits are great things but it's got to actually move forward. Um, so you know, but we have we plan to do all all of these units. Doing what we're doing here is gonna get us there significantly faster by not having all one product type. Plus, with our old plan, I don't even know that we actually hit the unit count just because there's, you know, we're we're painting ourselves into a bit of a corner unless we just build all in planning area five and six your high super high density stuff. So, but our our intent is to build that at the 900 first. I think we have to design it a little bit sooner than that too. The sooner the better, you know, infrastructure is a main concern. Yeah. Around here. So 500's out of the question. Well, that's when the other ones do is that's when we got to build the other one. So on the Yes, exactly. Garbani is at 501. So that's a natural progression. We're also having to build Holibian now. Um, you know, which is going to be fairly early in the process, too. So um the PAS are gated correct each individual PA. Yeah one yeah one is and eight also um with all the po and multi-use trails throughout the throughout the property. Can the public access the the po Yeah. It's vehicular

only. So it's locked off to vehic vehicles but if I wanted to go over there and go to the park and then hit the trails. Yeah. Um, I could do that without interruption. Yep. Or all cops stopping me? No. Okay. Well, maybe you, but and have you thought any more about the sensory guard with So, we can go to the slide, but yeah, we actually have that in there. So, that's part of what is involved in I mean, obviously, we got to do the designs for the actual park, but yeah, there's we want to incorporate that into some of the amenities of the park facility. So, we had a slide on that. Let me get to it. So, yes, I'll show you the slide where we contemplated it. See, I didn't bore you with all these slides. There we go. So, yeah, I mean, so we have a few things. the event staging, tot lot features, the indoor and outdoor basketball, um large group gathering and outdoor play, and then sensory experience areas as a part of the park, you know, and we're happy to accept a, you know, some sort of condition or something about that because we we feel like we're already kind of providing it anyway. So, I appreciate you taking that into consideration. Um, my final question, uh, the park plan area 9, I guess there's a lot of parks tonight. Um, have you named it yet? We have not. Uh, would you be, uh, willing to a condition this evening to accept a name from the planning commission? Sure. No further questions. Thank you. Thank you. Michael, that no statues though. Okay, please. Yes. Thanks for uh

thanks for answering, Michael Knight. And he asked you for a a dog park member. Yeah, we have that, too. It's in in one of the other amenities. So, I mean, it's there's so many amenities and we don't want to bore you with every detail of them. We can certainly go through them if if we want, but yeah, there is a dog park that's a part of the uh I believe it's in planning area the three amenity. So, Commissioner Holler, that mean nothing. So, does planning commission have any more questions? Okay, Madame Clerk, are there any requests to speak or would anyone in the audience like to make a comment? I have four requests to speak. First I have Susan RDE followed by Julie Cams. Thank you Brian. Good evening. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. Um could you state your name, please? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm Susan RDE. Thank you. Okay. and I I live in the Jbar area, so I'm one of those residents that has a little bit of concern about getting on to Scott Road. Um, two concerns. The first one is the traffic congestion and and I realize that is being addressed, but it seems like um since it was approved, I guess in the beginning of 2005, um we've had Liberty High School that's been built. We've had Sally Buselt Elementary that's been built, Harvest Hill Steam Academy, and when those were constructed, that also included lots more neighborhoods. Um, we're seeing that on Scott Road, just the traffic. So, the thoughts of 935 units right across the street just makes me a little bit nervous getting out of my neighborhood. Um secondly, um is and I tried to find this um in all of

the paperwork, but talking about the geotechnical report and a a soil test. Um bioolids, also known as sludge, were dumped excessively in this area that is going to be built on. We live through that. Um heavy metals in the soil don't dissipate over time. Um, in fact, the EPA fined the Orange County waste treatment facility uh who dumped on this property for failing to properly treat the sludge that was dumped on our men land. So, my concern is when grading starts, the airborne pathogens that are going to rise really worries me. Our our little area there across the way um can't begin to tell you how many cases of cancer that we've had over there. Anyway, um that was just what what I'd like to know. I'd like to find that geotechnical soil report. Um, and would it be possible to get like phase three testing a little bit more? Those are those are my big concerns. But otherwise, I enjoyed pouring over the schematics. I mean, it's beautiful. Um, all of the things that are going to go in there, but the traffic and the soil itself are big concerns to me. Thank you. Thank you, Susan. Julie Cams, followed by Amoy Alvia. Hi everyone. My name is Julie Cams and I live on Halablion Road. That is the name. Been out here since 85. Um so my concern is planning area two. Uh that's a 40% increase in homes on that section. That's not a small amount. um those I was around when they first started that plan. And the reason those lots were 10,000 square feet because it is a rural

area. It's not downtown Los Angeles. So that's a huge concern. Um you know, paving road, great. There's no access or egress out from that neighborhood. Fine. It's going to be a speedway. That's a problem. I'm concerned with folks parking their motor homes there. Um, but it it already is a speedway as a dirt road. That's a major problem. Another large issue is the drainage. Um the drainage runs through the back of my property and across uh really converges at Loretta and uh Halablion and comes across the street. I I just want to make sure we're all we have our eyes on that because if that would flood everybody if we have a problem there. Um we actually put the coverts in ourselves years ago. So the next question is on that paved hall blind road who maintains it. Is it going to be the city maintaining that? We putting speed bumps in. I mean there's there's speed bumps in there now. It's bad. Um you know getting out of my property onto that street as a paved road to get down to Scott is going to be a problem. I try to come out sometimes on Loretta to Meny Road. It's it's you know you you can set a timer. I mean it's a lot. So you know this isn't a small undertaking for those of us who've lived out here. I know everybody it's it's a great park. I I love parks. Equestrian trails got horses this

great. But there's a lot of issues that come along with this type of plan. So, I just want to make sure we're taking time to address those problems for the community. They will be happening. Just because someone says, "Oh, it's great. It's it's happening. It's going to happen." And and you know, we've all seen the progress of men. I have grew up here. Um we need to plan and make sure our plan is smarter. Not in love with plan the area two 40% increase of homes on that side. Not great. Thank you. Thank you. Amoy Alvia followed by Darcy Quinsey. Good evening council members and P planning commissioners. My name is Amoy Alle Villa. I'm a resident since 2007 of Meni. I've actually been in this valley since 1984. I may be a little bit redundant about what I'm going to talk about, but I also think it's important that I address my concerns about the um area itself because I am a resident right across the way from Garbani. So, thank you for the opportunity to speak. While I understand that housing development like Cantalina may already be in motion, I want to express a concern that I believe affects myself and my neighbors who I am speaking for. The impact of continued development on our already ever growing and traffic infrastructure. Yes, you said you completed a safety report in 2022. However, we have grown a lot since then. My primary concern is not simply the addition of new housing, but the fact that key surrounding roadways, Analopee

Road, Garbani Road, Meny Road, and Hobian are all primarily onelane roads are becoming overburdened during peak hours. More noticeable is the morning traffic along Analopee Road that's consistently backed up, causing delays, safety concerns, and um frustration for commuters. If housing construction in this area is moved is to move forward, which we will see that area, it'll be sad to see it go, I believe it is critical that traffic and roadway infrastructure improvements be addressed, readressed before development begins, not afterward. We've seen too much of that happen. We cannot continue to expand residential areas without a clear and enforceable plan to upgrade and widen these essential corridors or, as they've been saying, putting in lights. I like that. to do so would be irresponsible and unfair to both new and existing residents. So, I respectfully urge the council to prioritize traffic mitigation planning as part of any approval related to the project. Thank you for your time and consideration. Thank you, Darcy Quinsey. Hi, good evening. Hello, Councilwoman. I'm Darcy Kinsey, longtime Meny resident. I live in the two and a half acre parcels along uh Garbani Road and OG city council member and also want to recognize Chris Thomas, also OG planning commissioner. He's seen a lot. So, I have history with this project as well. In 2006, we met with Bluestone, a group of us cityhood proponents concerned about this project. Um we were um excited to have a nice project of that size. A specific plan in that area seemed to make sense. We were very supportive at first. We did oppose it

unless it was amended because they did not include Habilian lo road to be paved which was just unheard of to have that length of road not paved and it was uh disappointing that the county approved that. So, I'm here today to uh commend um Richland for taking on this specific plan, making the improvements. I really like the additional product types that they've um incorporated into the project, the more affordable housing ranges, the amenities of the project. Um so, I have some concerns though too. Um I like the project. I support the project, but there are some concerns. Some of them are not really in the developers control at this time. It's more of a global pro problem that needs to be addressed that maybe the developer can help, you know, support. One is the flood control issue, not necessarily on their project, although I'm not really um sure if that flood control condition with the trapezoidal channel and the the hydro-seated area. I don't know if flood control will accept that. Something that I think your staff should look at. Um, I think there needs to be a regional flood control amenity for the Paloma Wash. It does straddle the freeway there. It's It goes through Mr. Wong's property. It goes under the freeway. It will impact the Garbani Road interchange. I really think there needs to be a larger, broader regional project on that. And I would really encourage you to contact the flood control district, maybe have a master drainage plan for that area so that the other projects on both sides of the freeway can contribute to it. So that's that's one. Um I also think that um the signal at Bellamy and Scott could be instead of at 911 out of the 926, maybe 750. Make it a little sooner for those folks along, you know, that are in Jbar. you know, maybe the condition could be a little sooner. I don't think that would

cost them a lot. Um, and then also the future interchange also, I think there's a need to look at some funding mechanisms. I know that there's uh we have that luxury of still capturing fees for the Scrat Road RBBD benefit district, but I think at some point that's going to run out. You're going to need a new funding mechanism for Garbani Road. It's going to be expensive. So, I think you should look at that. I've have talked to the assistant city manager about different financing mechanisms, but I really think that working with the development community um with all the the projects coming in, that's going to be a need because that's going to be a job a job creation area and it'll be a needed amenity for right in the center of our, you know, development area. So, those are the Oh, I'm sorry. I'm out of time. Those are my recommendations. I I do support the project and consider encourage you to approve it, you know, with with maybe that earlier condition for the signal. Thank you. Hey, Darcy. Thanks. It's great to see you. Thank you. Good to see you guys. Thank you. I have David Clark. Hi, good evening. Um, I I live in the affected area. Um, I moved to Meny um out of the little town of Newevo uh because Meny was uh an upand cominging community that allowed uh the rural feel as well as uh the city benefits. Uh but we've seen a lot of growth in the last 17 years. And um you know I I've you know I think they were talking about spending 7% on uh Scott Road. Well, I I pay $1,000 a year for the widening of Scott Road. I'm one of a few communities that

do that. So, traffic for me is uh is a big deal because getting home and and leaving the property, I live uh on the corner of Garbani and Meny Road uh right in a development there. Um it's becoming increasingly more difficult to get in and get out of the community. Um, my daughter attends high school out in Marietta and it's not uncommon for her to leave our development and within about a mile is maybe under a mile is Analopee Road. That thing gets backed up to the tune of 45 minutes to go about six miles to her school. Six or seven miles. So, um, it is a it is a concern and so it's I want to underscore what other community members have spoken about up to this point. It's we got to get the infrastructure in before we start throwing up uh units. I do like the idea of the the park and doing something different. I think that's uh it's interesting because Meny has a lot of tot lots that are useless after the age of five or six. So um I commend the the developer for uh coming up with something that's different and unique that would add to Meny, but I think we need to get the infrastructure in place before we uh decide to to send the big rigs down the road like we did with uh Liberty High School tearing up the road. Let's go ahead and and and widen those roads. Let's let's take it easy on the Mini residents. We've we've uh suffered enough. Thank you. Thank you. Michael McGrain. I have no other requests to speak. Thank you, Madam Clerk.

If you would like to approach the podium and then just state your name, please for the record. Good evening. My name is Cody Manley. Um, I live on Hillblane. I call it Hailblane, but I'm one of the lucky ones that I'm actually right in front of the park, so I kind of lucked out there, but I really appreciate the uh road coming in. I mean, that's going to help out a lot. I get concerned with my uh children leaving the property, you know, or driving out or, you know, there's always things just speeding by there, whether it be a truck or a razor or motorcycles, which not a big problem, but I'm just my first concern is my family. So, I just want the, you know, with the road, it would be great if there was some sort of like stop signage, you know, between like the crossroads that would help with traffic. So people aren't using that as a shortcut, more as it's a convenience for the people that are on that road. Um, the other concern I have is I've looked through the plans and I didn't see anything for the drainage right in front of our house because that leads right into the park and there is a river that runs through our property when it rains hard. So, I just wanted to make sure that there is something because there's like a covert right under our road and that leads right across the street and I seen pictures of it in the plans, but I didn't see anything that was taken care of with the plan. So, I just would hate to see either my property back up with water or that flood the park in that area because it does I mean it's a heavy river that goes through there at times. But, I do really appreciate the the road. I mean, that's killer. I just hope we can do stop signs and mate the speeding on that road. That's all I got. All right. Thank

you. So, are there no further questions? So, then I will close the public hearing at 7:20 p.m. Planning Commissioners have any other comments or discussion? Commissioner Caller. Thank you, Mr. chairman. Um just in in uh in response to some of the the uh comments and questions that we've had, um I'd like to ask about uh tra traffic and uh drainage hydrarology in particular, but maybe we can start with with traffic and specifically um you know the the the results of the traffic study in general and the phasing on some of the improvements. um how many building permits before a particular uh uh improvement is required? We heard one we heard a request to bump that up. I assume that's in the COAs. Um so maybe maybe you can kind of walk us through that a little bit. Sure, we can talk about that a little bit. Uh, so one thing I do want to note just right off the bat, the the verbiage on the timing of these different improvements is not new verbiage um specific to these three planning areas that are coming in. Uh, this is uh mostly verbatim verbiage from the underlying tenative track map 33739. Yeah. Um, so it's not a new condition of requirement we're adding in here for these timings. it's consistent with what has already been approved as part of the original PA and it's actually um what PA 1 and 8 is already tied to. Um the we've talked a little bit about the Halebly and Scott uh signal timing there. Um I believe uh Richmond mentioned that the most updated traffic

study did indicate a 7% fair share. Uh city staff has uh recommended to retain however the signal requirement itself um due to these safety issues that we're discussing here today which is why we're we're holding on to that uh that intersection signal at Bell and Scott also known as Haleblin and Scott. Um on the the drainage side is it possible to pull up the the roadway section for Is that in in here? Well, Sid, let's go back to traffic. So, how about speed bumps? So, se speed bumps in general are not uh ideal from an emergency vehicle response time standpoint. Um, we we do have uh Crystal, I don't know. Is there any indication? There's a lower profile one, isn't there? Is there any indication stop sign in place of the speed bumps? Could we not put two stop signs on Haleian? you have you have roads coming out anyway with perfect you know I apologize what was the question well there was a question about about stop signs and um Commissioner Thomas asked that but I want to follow up so I don't know in in terms of um uh private roads uh on the other side of okay was that close um at this point at this point in time you probably can't tell but Um uh obviously to locate a stop sign there, it has to meet warrants. I don't know if if in the traffic uh study there was any analysis of side friction onto that street. Yeah, because this project doesn't actually have any driveway connections to Helibian. Uh move the mic a little bit closer. Sure. There you go. Uh this project, as you can see here, uh doesn't have any driveway connections to Haley directly. Uh so I don't believe

there's any traffic or stop signal warrants at those individual intersections on Hibian. Um it is worth noting that the final engineering plans for this are actually currently being developed. So we are a little bit further along uh since it's associated with the phase 1 and 8 at the moment. Um we can take a closer look into whether or not some of these meet stop warrants, but at the moment I don't believe there's any plan for those. I I think based on what we've heard and and Commissioner Thomas um his his question, if if you could take a look and see if uh if there would be uh you know you could meet warrants for for even a stop sign along Hallelujah. Sure. I think that would be that would be a profitable exercise. Okay. Can I I know you have a couple of items, Ivan, if I could jump on that one. Um I've lived here 25 plus years. I'm glad to see that road's being paved, but I have personally had my wife tear off the underside of a car because of the the the way that that road is. I'm glad it's being paved. She's driven on it. But I have personally experienced cars flying along. I walk my dogs on that road and if it wasn't for me being doing this, I would surprise I wouldn't get hit. So whatever we have to do to rationalize a stop sign on a label or whatever we want to call it um one or two would be a that would be a requirement for commissioner Thomas for this project. So if we whatever we need to do to do that and before we jump into uh hydraology um you said that the uh improvement phasing or timing after x number of building permits that's tied to the underlying TTM. Is that is that what you said? Yes, that's correct. So that's not an option um for discussion this evening. No, at least not as far as the

conditions of approval. Now we we can discuss the possibility of it, but um the the verbiage here is going to be tied to the underlying specific plan. Regardless, I think um I think I would like to uh if I could um given the testimony that we heard, ask the applicant if they would be open to considering a change in the uh number of um building permits from 900 to there was a lower number, 700, 750, something like that. I don't I I realize that's not on the table right now. So that would be something that I would just um like to see if you had or what your reaction was to that from the while he's coming up. Yeah. While while he's coming up and discussing discussing that very issue since we're going to jump to it right now. Um, anyone who's pulled out of Jbar or even the horse ranch there onto Scott, it takes their life in their hands. Now, the traffic signal on Cantalina and Scott is really going to help that. This project would not exist without that. But there is the queueing of of traffic coming at high speeds from Meny Road down does warrant that traffic signal at um at Scott and uh Bellamy. literally from a safety standpoint. So that that would go a long ways in goodwill to have the the timing gone to 750 building permits. So Brian, you're saying it's it's more a funding problem. That's Yeah. I mean, we we we've added Haleibian being H street Hane Hane to our you know, and that's a I mean a million is probably putting it light because that doesn't even include any soft costs or anything. That's just

construction costs and none of that was originally included before and you know that's a pretty major give and so I mean we're just trying to balance all of this with having the project be financially feasible. It's this project sat for 20 years for a reason. So you know I we just want to make sure that all these things actually happen. How much is that signal? Well well about 450 without any other costs like soft costs and things like that. depends on how difficult of a con construct it is and if there's any rightway needed at the end of the day but yeah okay so I had a couple other things I wanted to address if to answer some of the questions if if you don't mind but but or I can go sit back down this right Ty is this the right is this the right time to discuss this with with the applicant you can ask them the questions yeah Sure, Brian. Okay. Uh, just I think they're bringing up the drainage, so maybe I can just add and they can jump on to that, but we have a condition that says we have to maintain all tra all not traffic drainage as it is. We can't um we have to perpetuate it. And so basically upstream and downstream it has to flow the same when it comes onto our site and off. We can't impede it or you know cause issues. Plus, I mean, there's significant drainage improvements that we're doing like basins and things like that. Um the um little covert area that is on Haliban um we are we are actually replacing it with a new one to because it is it's in disrepair. So the intent is to replace that as part of the road network. But all of that drainage channel we're working with flood. They intend to take that we are we're in process of designing it because we have an approved project right now and we're in plan check with flood to ultimately take it. So there's extensive requirements not just by flood but the city that in terms of drainage and this is a very very

complicated site in terms of drainage because it is very flat um and it does not percolate. So um we are going through painstaking links to meet those requirements and meet that condition that is already required of us. So you can say without a doubt that your project is not to contribute to the amount of water. Correct. Can I ask you a question about so the off-site flows from the east right now without building the project do they they go in that cover but do they ultimately go across the project right now do they go across they do go across into the channel into the channel so when you put up the wall the road and the wall it's going to stop the westerly flow is the design to split it north and south and then where's it where is it going to go it's going to go the exact I mean because we can't change the pattern turns or change it. We've got to recreate that and take it on. Right now it goes because Hib the road is built. It's just dirt. Um so there is a little culvert there, but we're going to put in a new one and it'll be improved. But where does that does that cover take it? Is it going to take it in pipes underneath the project and continue the direction or once your project's built is it going to move it around the project? It's going to go into our new channel facility that is going to all bring it on and then bring it out at the end of the site to the Jim Wong site ultimately and it's going to go back onto his site exactly like it did before, but it's going to go through an improved channel that's now maintained and a series of there's some pipes and culverts and things. So, the short answer is it's going to flow the same way it is now. It's you're going to take off-site flows onto on-site and then off-site again. Yep. And that's a city requirement and a flood requirement. Okay. And for the hundredyear events also. So, okay. Um, sludge, just real quick, uh, we talked about this this morning. Um, that was we did have a phase one that was done. There were no record finds. Um, we and even though not recommended in 2016, we

did a phase two just to confirm because we had heard of this um, dumping, but it's it's not accurate on our site. There were other locations in the area. There was about 16 areas where they did testing across the site. We submitted that to county uh environmental health and we have a clearance letter from them saying it's all clear and I gave that to Russell today. Um so when you mean by Sorry, it's Tammy. Yep. Hello. Um so when you mean by testing, you mean like coral core soil samples? Uh yeah, basically they're out there taking bags of sand or whatever the material is out there and taking it back to a lab and it's all tested and they're looking for me like heavy metals or organics and all that and all of it cleared. Yeah. and and compaction. Yeah. Um and thus there's anything else that you would like me to address. That's those are the ones I wanted. We kind of interrupted Ivan. So, did you have more items, Ivan? Sorry. Uh no, no, you're stay there. The only thing the only thing I was going to do is just to ask staff to follow up on we we've heard the applicant on the hydrarology. If you could just um maybe summarize uh uh the hydrarology again. Sure. you're you're not obviously you're not increasing the queue, you're not concentrating flows, those those kinds of things. Yes, that that's correct. Um and I think it might be beneficial just for uh planning commission and the people here to see the section or the proposed section of Hibblian um if we we have that available. Uh ultimately that flow coming from the east uh the the road is expected to meet at that existing grade and allow the water to flow west over Haleblian to a uh by a swale on the west side uh and then travel ultimately to these locations where the uh channels are. We can't see what you're looking at right now. We're still pulling it up at the moment.

Yeah. So the historical flows are what they are. That's Yes. And and they are matching or meeting the existing uh outlet locations uh with this new channel that's coming in. Um one big improvement that they're doing as well, which is more of an off-site improvement is for the crossing at uh Garbani uh where this these flows are currently going north. Um, RCFC in the conditions of approval condition number 13A uh acknowledges that this is a regional problem. However, the the cancelling specific plan does specifically uh is specifically required to address that problem with that uh crossing. I believe the current plans um are two coverts and a raising of Garbani Road at that location. Um and this is an off-site improvement, not on their guys' frontage. Um we have up on the screen here road showing um how it's expected to drain coming in from the east side uh meeting at that existing grade and traveling west to the graded swale. um it travels along that swell to where these channel locations are and ultimately uh would overflow or in the event of an overflow result in those uh in in the channels there. So it's going to flow across. So any flows that are on the houses to the east, the water is going to flow across the road. That's correct. Yes. Across the road. And it's going to go over the trail and the and the sidewalk. No, no, the the swale is prior to the

trail. Uh there are certain location I see the greatest swale. Okay. And is that going to take it like north and south to a culvert, the little box cover, little bitty entry cover the project? There's there's two locations. Yes. And it was it over Yeah. Can can um com can uh we do have uh another staff member from engineering and uh she's doing the uh uh plan checking for the project so she can elaborate on the drainage. Hi, good evening. This is Crystal Newuen and with the engineering department. I am reviewing the final engineering of the drainage plans. So I do have a bit more knowledge in this um area. Uh as Chris has mentioned, Hibrien does have a tilted section where the flow off of the properties will go across the street where there is already a covert where that's taking it under the street and across. The project itself will um improve that and make sure it maintains the existing pattern and continues to take it across the street. As it enters in the areas where it enters into the swailes you see there, it would take it uh either north or south to the drain niche channel. There are two drainage channels that comes all the way up to the helmium road and at that point there is an inlet right in front of the channel. It would take lowflow storms, say 10ear storm, so it's a more consistent smaller storm. It would take it into an inlet down and into the channel. For a major hundredyear storm, there will be no pipe that can take it. It's a major I've I've seen a couple residents here that have said it's a major storm. It's a lot of flow. What will occur is it will over topple that

area right next to the channel because the street will be lowered right next to the channel and into the channel itself. So Crystal um is it is after this is all said and done is this the ultimate channel? That is the ultimate channel. Correct. Okay. Good. And the this road itself alan is undulating and it naturally has two low points in the roadway and that's where it's generally has been going into the channel that's already there. Obviously, the project itself will make it a constructed formal channel, concrete channel in some areas and then a a a hydroseated area. So, it'll go into there. So, you're saying it can it can handle a normal 10year storm, 25 year, but nothing can handle a 100redyear for the most part. It will uh it will topple over to go into the channel. The channel itself would hold the 100redyear storm. Wow. Okay. Will the road when they pave Halibian will they flatten it or will they leave the contour existing contour? We would need to follow the existing contour. We do try to soften it a little bit but because you see at the roadway um picture that Chris had up there we're trying to tie into the existing property elevations and as that change we want to make sure to be able to maintain that and to carry the flow across the property. Okay. Right. I'm just wondering what's the difference in elevation from the top of slope to the finished ground of uh between the pad and the elevation. Yes. Um there isn't a much change there. It's not it's pretty flat actually, but the road itself as we're traveling along the roadway is quite undulating. Great. Thank you. So, I know the answer to this, but I'm gonna I'm gonna ask it anyway. So, can you leave the vertical curves a little

bit more steep and reduce the design speed of the road? It does naturally offer that. I know I know I'm you guys are laughing that right now, but that nothing going to get air. It's just a thought. One other question. the distance the the box the new box coverver is going to go down near Analopee and Garbani that where it's not on this project site it's on the Wong property right there have those been accepted has those coverts and that design been accepted by Riverside County flood the design is it's still in the design process so it hasn't gone through that uh acceptant process so it's still in design but it's in process with flood riverside county flood it is a in process process with uh both agencies. Both agencies. Okay. So, you're working city and do do you expect acceptance of your design for that for that location? We're in very preliminary um we are looking to continue that process of design but eventually yes we were reached to an a point of approval for the plants and it was mentioned that Garbani as it approaches analopee where these culverts would be you're going to raise the level. How much is it going to raise it? We're still in design, but there is a limit on how much it can raise. One of the criteria is it can't uh increase the water level more than half a foot downstream. So, that's one of our limitations is to make sure we don't flood downstream. And and just so we're clear, the the hope in the design is that as it comes off of the project and then onto the Wong property for a little bit and it goes into these coververts is that for the 10 and 20 year storm cycles or whatever, it will the covert can handle that. Right. But the huge ones, it will go over that covert. Correct. Correct. So, we're hoping that it can manage more of the smaller storms. Um at where it's at right now, it's it's

flooding almost um frequently every time. Yes. So, we're hoping to minimize that frequency, but um to have a 100redyear storm, it won't be able to handle that. But it is will be designed to safely overtopple that roadway at a longer span so that it's it's not um flooded at a you know a deeper depth of water. And then I don't know if you're the person to ask this, but is and I didn't look at the requirements, but from where Tossana comes on to um Garbani and then people take a left and go down to Analopee. Um is that going to be widened at all? That road is there any is they going to do anything to that road? It'll be improved to an intersection via Cantalina. No, not Yeah. No, the Gar I'm asking is Garbani going to be improved for between Analopee and Toscana or Catalina? Yeah, right now it's two-lane. It's it's it's it's a country road. I know it but it's outside of the project's um frontage. So, they're not conditioned to improve beyond that and the traffic study didn't um analysis didn't require additional widening beyond their project frontage. There will be winding from Haleiblian to via Cantalina via Tuscana part of the frontage to the major roadway that it's um as indicated in a general plan. Okay. Can can you put the traffic signal in at 500? We will. Yes, it is conditioned to be uh a traffic signal to go in that location. That is correct. Thank you, Crystal. Anybody more questions or not of her? I've got a question of staff. Are you done item? Um, so I'm happy to hear there was a phase one and a phase two on that property.

Um, just to confirm, no nothing no indications even slight indications came out of phase two that require additional testing or scraping or removal of top soil or anything like that. That is correct. So the again the phase one and phase two were shared with the county department of environmental health and they that that was their findings was that no further analysis was required and those reports were cleared. Hey Russell, tell the audience what a phase one and a phase two are. Putting me on the spot, huh? I'll uh ask our engineering friends here to explain it further, but it's essentially a a site assessment that looks in the soil and looks at past uses of the site. Yeah. Um that's it. You want to elaborate, Chris? Sure. Uh so the phase one for everyone here is where they're like Russell mentioned they're elaborating to find when when there are hazards on the site. Uh the phase two is referring to the actual testing that's done on the site itself for that's all geotechnical. Uh yes and also site just history as well as a part of it. So, it's not just the ge geotechnical um the the phase one will often go into uh aerial imagery and determining what previous uses and possible pollutants could have come out about as a part of those uses as well. Thank you, Chris. And so, just one more thing that obviously we're dealing with an older SQA document, the EIR, but there were sections of the EI that analyzed that and it came back clean. Um, also an updated soils report was done for the project in 2022 and although it's not necessarily looking for sludge material, the report um came back clean. So there have been several reports that have been done for the project and nothing has indicated that it was a sludge site. Um there the city did adopt uh an old

sludge map from the county of Riverside and that indicates uh possible or potential um sludge sites where applications were applied to the county to potentially dump class A or class B sludge on these sites. Um the Cantalina project is not identified as one of those sites. So the nearest site identified is about a half mile to the east as a possible site. It doesn't mean it's necessarily dumped there according to these maps. Um two other quick questions. Number one may be I'm not sure who can answer it. What is the CIP schedule for widening Analopee? Right now it's two lanes from Scott Clear over to like the rental homes and it widens. What What is the schedule for that? Let us look into that here. Give us one sec. We'll get our someone from our engineering CIP team coming coming up to coming. Okay. Because we all know all these everything's going to flow out to Scott or on to uh Garbani which both connect to analopee. Good evening, commissioners. Um, Carlos Geronimo, CIP manager. Um, so just to recap, what was exactly the question? We're asking when is there is it on and when when approximately will the Analopee Road be widened from two lanes to four for the section between Scott and um, Garbani? So, it's in the long-term CAP program. Uh, the 10-year right now. There is no uh, current plans for it. uh to widen that section of the roadway. I understand that there's uh there may be future development that will realign Antelope Road. Instead of going right along the freeway, it will push it back to the east a little bit to be more straight uh between the future Garbani interchange and where Scott interchange is right now. So, at this point, there

is no plans for it, but it's in the long-term CIP program. Okay. So, I'll make a statement to staff that if we could look into rep prioritizing that. I understand that um there there's issues of purchasing right away. There's issues, a lot of things that go on with that, but it we have had other projects in the past where the city has found funding and got reimbursement from property owners to do certain sections um whatever that may have to be because at this point all of the new development to the east that's heading cut down Garbani and Scott and are utilizing Analopee Road is going to necessitate uh Analopee Road, that section of Analopee Road to be widened. anyone who has walked along there or driven along there. It's it's deadly. So, I would make a formal request to staff and maybe we could agendaize this even for another meeting of how to fund in the timing of the widening of Analopee Road. So, if we can if someone wants to we can do that later now. Second that we can agendize that. So, so we do have future uh requests. Do you want to wait till then? That's fine. Put on there. Do that. We can do that. Okay. And then we are going over capital improvements. Yeah. today. That would be great. So, because we've been looking at lots of projects to the east and it's just accumulating at this point. Um, second comment I'd have is sorry coughing here. I would encourage again the analysis of a stop one or if not better two stop signs on Hblian. Um I understand you have to get warrants or whatever is you have to do to rationalize that cuz um that to me would be a very important issue. So just wanted to be clear about that. I will say I wanted to thank staff for negotiating the timing of the Catalina and Scott um street uh light the the

traffic signal I should say. Um that is a huge safety issue. it is Scott Road is becoming deadly and the fact that you got that in before a single building permit is amazing and I thank the the applicant for agreeing to that and doing that. Um I know that's a frontage of money to do that and we appreciate that. Um as well as a singani um I'm grateful that you are paving Habian um that is going to be a huge improvement for the area and addressing the flood control along there. So, with all these improvements and things and being that this project was approved before we became a city and we're bringing these amenities to it and making a not so great situation better, I'm in favor of the project. Okay. Planning Commission have any other questions? Michael. Thank you, Chris. Uh, regarding the school, the school site, um, I wanted to make sure that we had a school there rather than additional 200 homes or whatever that number was. So, I reached out to MUSD and uh, they are very interested in that property. It's just a matter of the timing of purchasing it. They're going to, you know, get an elementary school there eventually, someday, some way, somehow. Um, they did just pass measure R, so that'll probably be used uh to purchase that school, purchase and build purchase the land and build the school. Um, what I was talking about earlier, um, I wanted to bring something here to the commission. Uh this is the first time in like three years since I've been either attending the meeting or sitting up here. Um that we have a significant

historical property um that it's in front of us. We can't keep it. You know, it was someone else's um many many years ago. It's going to be developed. Um and in 1892, a guy named KDson uh came to that property. He eventually had like most of the acreage there and um he's one of our founding fathers if you want to put it there. Um he he married a gal and then they got they had a bunch of kids and those kids had kids and they ended up a couple of them died and they intermingled with the Ziders I believe and then that's kind of like where all the information we have a historical museum and that's where like a lot of the stuff got there. So, I want to ask the commission um how you feel about naming the park after after uh Andrew KDson. Is just naming it KDson Park. Any objection to that, Commissioner? I just wanted to make a comment that um in your approval tonight, you you do not currently have the authority to name the park. You can make a recommendation as a part of that, but um that's not a part of the approval package. So, so at what point do I make that recommendation? You can make it as part of the motion as a request. However, I believe it's under PRTC that would make that determination because I know uh Mr. Hardy when he goes he has to go back to community service department and he actually when he names the streets inside he's going to go to um Nick and when he names the park and all that um he's gonna um he's got to fill out forms. So, I just want to make sure if we all are in agreeance of that that that is looked at in the future um when

he does fill out the forms. But let me just ask Brian, do you have any objection to naming the park after the original land owner? No, we don't. We do not. So, we we could make the recommendation in our motion tonight. And um I would I would support that. There's actually a historical marker there. Has anyone seen it? It's a big cement thing with a BR brass plaque right at the corner of Garbanian Analopee that has the history of it. So, it's an appropriate thing. So, I would encourage the uh recommendation and community is okay with that. Now, how do we do it when we make our motion? So, when you make your motion, you can also add on that the planning commission recommends that um the park be named, you know, however whatever you wanted to name. And for the clerk, um, it's Ki T I L S O N for the record. Thank you. Yeah, let's let's let's do this. I make a motion that um we we vote on this project and uh you can move to approve staff's recommendation uh with the addition to uh recommend that the project applicant name the park or that the city named the park KDson Park in in addition to that do we need to make a motion when we say we're going to approve we recommend approval of this do we need to say in addition to the for example the stop signs that recommending a stop signs on Habibia and those kind of things or do we not need to put those in the recommendation? Part part of your recommendation would be to direct staff to look at potentially installing if warranted or or to review as part of the final engineering if if if signs can be installed as well as um there was another

thing that I believe you requested for us to look at again which is um no actually the other thing it has to do with analopee prior which we'll handle that at a different time. Yeah, I just want to clarify that the staff's recommended action um is to determine that the tenative track map um 38372 um as well as tenative trackm 38682 and plot plan PLN22-0202 do not require additional squa um adopt a resolution approving uh tenative trackm 38372 and plot plan PLN22 0202 and then adopt a resolution approving tenative trackm 38682. This is not a recommendation to the city council. You are making the approval of these actions. So how do we word that then since we are the approving body? Do we approve it with with recommendations of these two items of the naming of the park and the stop signs or do we make it a condition as a recommendation? Yes, because uh one um naming of the park is not within the jurisdiction of the planning commission and that I believe staff is looking into the stop signs. Okay. So, there'll be recommendations attached to the approval of these three resolutions. Yes. Okay. Is that a motion? I'll make that motion. Yes. Okay. Do you want to second it? Uh, Mike, and just just to be clear, so that on the on the stop signs, we're we're recommending work with staff to determine that staff look into that, but obviously it has to meet warrants, correct? Otherwise, it creates a liability. So So that's the that's the that's the addition on the motion in addition to the part. Very good. So, Commissioner Thomas motioned. Commissioner Nighton second.

Scroll up. Give me one moment, please. Okay. Commissioner Nighton, can I get your vote, please? Yes. Commissioner Ramirez, yes. Commissioner Thomas, yes. Vice Chair Holler, yes. And Chair Madrid, yes. That passed unanimously. 5 Z. So, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for all your help on this. That was really good. Thank you, Brian. Yeah, we'll let's take a 10 minute break. Okay, a good tie. Okay, we'll take [Music] [Music] [Music]

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Heat. Heat. All right. Okay, everybody ready? Okay, let's reconvene this meeting at 8:08 p.m. Where am I? Okay, we've we got our two resolutions. Okay, that takes us now we're at all what you guys been waiting for. 9.2, the Northern Gateway Logistics Center Warehouse Project. So, this is item 9.2. Could the acting community development director please introduce the item? Uh thank you chair. Item will be uh presented by

Brandon Clearary. Um the project obviously has uh gone through an extensive planning process, planning review. Um there's there's been some emails and letters that we received there your uh blue folder as well. And Brandon will go over the details. Good. Thank you, Mr. D. Uh, good evening, chair and commissioners. Uh, the project before you is plot plan number PLN23-000040, the Northern Gateway Logistics Center Warehouse Project. Uh, the project is located between Barnett Road and Evans Road approximately 300 ft north of Mclofflin Road. The general plan and zoning designation for the project site is economic development corridor northern gateway. Um, and just a little uh background, uh, prior to city incorporation, uh, this area west of Barnett to Marietta Road uh was per the Riverside County General Plan Industrial Park prior to city incorporation um, which did allow for warehousing as a permitted use. Um, and then in uh 2013, the city adopted the um updated general plan and uh zoning code to change it from industrial park to economic development corridor. Uh the project proposes two speculative warehouses totaling 398,041 square ft. Uh building number one located on the north end of the project site is approximately 105,000 square ft uh with 5,000 ft of office included. Building number two is uh just over 292,000 square ft with 7,000 ft of mezzanine space and 8,000 ft of office. Uh access to the project site will be from Barnett Road on the east side and Evans Road on the west side. There will also be a future corridor running along

the southern end of the project site which will be westbound only. The truck corridor or the truck court has been located at the center of the project site to assist in shielding from uh the public view. Building number one will have 15 dockai doors uh and trailer stalls um all-encompassing and then 108 parking spaces for employees. Building number two will have 37 dockside doors uh with an additional 41 trailer stalls uh and 244 parking spaces for employees. Also included in screening the truck court uh will be 11t high uh walls uh to screen it from public view from the east side and the west side. Uh north and south are covered by the design of the building. Access to the individual buildings will be split between car only and truck and car access. Uh truck and car access will be indicated by the orange arrows and blue will be just car access. Uh for infrastructure improvements, uh the project includes frontage improvements along the east and west sides of the project site along with the uh corridor along the southern end of the project site. Um on Barnett Road, there will be it's classified as a secondary road. Um the project will build half width improvements plus 12 ft which will include two southbound lanes. Uh as stated earlier, the uh corridor on the south end will be two lanes westbound. The western frontage will be an industrial collector. Uh the project will build uh one lane with the stripe median plus 12 ft uh to uh be the ultimate half width for an industrial collector. Um currently Evans Road is not paved. Um so to connect to Ethanac Road uh they will have to build two

12oot lanes with six foot shoulders in an inim condition. Um additionally the project will be installing a new traffic signal at Evans Road and Ethanac Road. Um additionally the project also includes the relocation of an underground storm drain. Um, it'll be relocated north of its current, uh, design to be underneath the truck court, um, in the center of the project site, um, for ease of access and maintenance. Can we go back a slide? Yes. I apologize if you mentioned this. Is there an existing bridge on Barnett from the project going north? Yes. Yes, over the canal. Yes, there is. And does it have to be widened or improved for this project or is it existing conditions sufficient? Uh existing conditions. Okay. Thank you. Uh for landscaping, uh the project includes approximately 105,000 square feet of landscaping across the entire project. Uh which is about 13%. Uh the requirement is 10% uh split between each of the buildings. Uh building number one is approximately 15.6% 6% landscaped. Uh building number two is about 10.8%. Uh there also will be trees at the perimeter within the parking areas and adjacent to the building to help screen uh you know the scale of the building. Um 24-in box trees are also included along the uh southern project boundary in addition to larger 36-in box trees at entry driveways. Uh for the architecture, uh both buildings comply with the city of Menipe design guidelines and the good neighbor policies. Uh the architecture uh limits the amount of long blank walls um by including breaks along wall planes, differing materials and paint

styles across all facads and is designed to shield the truck court uh from the ride ofway. Um and this is uh architecture for the north building, building number one. Uh for building number two, uh it encompasses all the same uh architectural uh features uh to help screen the truck court um and provide or and limit the blank wall planes u by incorporating uh brakes and differing materials. Uh as I mentioned earlier, there will be screening uh of the truck courts on the west and east sides of the truck courts. Um it will be an 11 foot tall uh wall along with uh metal access gates. Um in addition, there will be landscape burns and perimeter trees, a 56 ft setback from the southern property line to uh the building um which includes the uh truck route along the uh southern boundary of the project site. Um and as mentioned earlier, the project does conform to good neighbor policies. Uh for the environmental determination, um out of an abundance of caution, um an environmental impact report was prepared. Um and there were no significant and unavoidable impacts found. Um an initial study mitigated negative declaration could have been prepared. Um but the city and the applicant chose to do an environmental impact report. Um this report analyzed uh various items um including but not limited to air quality, health risk assessment, biology, cultural uh energy, greenhouse gas and traffic um with mitigation measures uh being proposed in biology, geology and soils, greenhouse gas, hazards and hazardous materials and hydrarology and water

quality. Uh the notice of uh preparation went out in June 21st of 2023 and the scoping meeting uh for public input was June 27th of 2023. Uh during the draft environmental impact report uh public review period, the 45day required review period, uh the city received uh a number of comments from agencies, organizations, and individuals uh mainly in regards to air quality, greenhouse gas analysis, traffic, and land use compatibility. The public hearing notice and notice of availability for the final ER was published on May 4th, 2025. Uh we received uh as me Orlando mentioned earlier uh multiple comment letters uh since the public notice went out from the city of Paris, Brianna Harwood, uh Golden State Environmental Justice Alliance um Blums Collins and Ho LLP. Uh Sarah Erazo, Enel Marquez, and uh Gyro. Apologies if I um butcher the name. Carbajal uh from Paris Neighbors in Action for the Golden State Environmental Justice Alliance letter um which included the uh letter from the attorney. The original letter from the draft EIR uh comment period was included and all those items were addressed in the final environmental impact report that was provided for the uh city of Paris letter. Um, it also includes the original letter from the draft EIR comment period. However, it also included a comment on Senate Bill uh 330 uh which is the no loss for residential. Um, city staff believes that this comment is incorrectly interpreting and applying that uh Senate bill to this

project. Um, this project does not include a reasonzoning um or reduction in allowed residential uses. Um and therefore we do not think this comment applies to this project. Uh staff's recommendation is to adopt a resolution certifying the environmental impact report. adopt the mitigation monitoring and reporting program and direct staff to file a notice of determination and adopt a resolution approving plot plan number PLN23-000040 uh generally located south of Ethan east of Evans west of Barnett Road and north of Mclofflin Road. Um and this concludes staff's presentation. Um we are available for questions along with the applicant and our environmental consultant Kinley Horn. Thank you, Associate Planner Brendan Clary. Does the planning commission have any questions for staff? Commissioner. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh there are several uh comment letters received on on this project, but I'm going to ask a specific questions um or question about two that came in today. One was a letter from the uh you you put it up on the screen. The printing is small. The Golden State Environmental Justice Alliance. That's a followup to an earlier communication. They make a number of assertions of deficiencies in the environmental document. Everything from um land use and general plan conformance um to greenhouse gas. Um also neighboring jurisdiction city of Paris asserts deficiencies in the environmental document uh and and that the comments in the final e don't

adequately address those and these both came in today. So my question madam city attorney is um uh are you comfortable or confident that the final EIR is a legally adequate document? Yes, I love the succinct answer. Uh, that's it for right now. Commissioner, Commissioner Thomas. No, okay. So, um, Okay, cool. Sorry, I was I was entertained by Mr. Commissioner Holler's reaction to the succinct answer. Um, in terms of so yes, the EIR is sufficient. Um, I just wanted to confirm that it included cumulative impacts. Yes, I I'd like to say that first the sequent analysis not was not only a sufficient but went above and beyond what was required in the initial study as mentioned by associate planner. theory uh we determined that um we didn't have to do an EIR but out of abundance of caution and for concern for our community we have done an EIR uh in conjunction with our um the applicant uh we analyze every item that is required under SQA including cumulative impacts GSG impacts um and on top of that as mentioned by uh associate planner clearary SB330 the no net loss law uh did not apply here in fact uh the 5% % residential requirement in the northern gateway uh currently exists and in fact exceeds the 5% residential. So there is no net loss on residential here. Uh we're very confident in the analysis done by staff, the applicant as well as

our consultant and um up to the city planning commission to determine the project. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So, if there's no further questions, I will open the public hearing at 8:23 p.m. Madame Clerk, can you confirm that the item was legally noticed and if any correspondence has been received? Yes, it was legally noticed and all the correspondence is in your folders. Thank you. Okay, I'd like to invite the applicant to the podium to speak. It can we get the applicant presentation, please? Thank you. Good evening, planning commissioners and city staff. Thank you for your time tonight. Um, I'm just going to introduce myself and the company and then I'm going to have Luke, our development manager, uh, come up here and talk specifically about the project. Uh, my name is Tyler Banton. I'm the regional partner for Love It Industrial. We are a national devel uh, industrial developer, but we do operate locally. And what does that mean? We have local offices in each region that we develop. Myself and my team live here in Southern California and we just focus on Southern California and we operate that way so we can focus on the local communities uh understand what the local communities need uh and be a good partner to where we develop and that's what we're trying to do here in the city of Meny. We bought this land uh about three years ago. Um as Brandon mentioned this was a part of the EDC Northern Gateway which was adopted in 2013. Uh from the very beginning we got engaged with city staff uh some of which who are no longer here uh but we've had the pleasure of working with those who have stepped in since and uh we've taken into consideration of all the potential concerns that could come from a logistics project. We understand the contention of what logistics uh can seem to the community. Um but we're here developing a project that focuses on sustainability. Uh it it very much

considers truck traffic in a way that we do not want it to affect your local community members here. Uh and we want to do it in a way that it brings jobs and it keeps uh local businesses here in the city of Meny. We've talked to several uh local uh companies whether both in the city of Tmacula or in the city of Meny. Uh it lacks uh industrial uh buildings of of what we would call smaller to midsize. And so these uh local uh businesses are having to look elsewhere outside of where their current labor is. And they've had this labor for 20 plus years in some situations. So this project here is one to bring to the city, keep the local community uh jobs and um further build economic growth here in the city. Um with that, I'm going to allow uh Luke to come up here and speak more about the project. Uh but appreciate the time and it's nice to meet some of you all. Just one question for you. So on behalf of the applicant, do you accept the conditions of approval? I do. Thank you. Yeah. And actually before I have Luke come up here, uh there is one note I want to make uh that was uh just recently discussed. Uh a project of this size, we typically do an M andD and not a full-blown EIR. And at the very early stages, we it was very easy determination for us to do an EIR. And in that case, we wanted to make sure we studied every possible situation to uh make sure there's no impacts uh that that the city or the um code cannot handle. And so we took the conservative approach. We've also studied a project that is bigger than what we're likely to build because it includes mezzanine square footage. We do that just in case we have a a local business owner who needs additional office space for uh his company. most times that does not happen. So we actually are studying more than what we more than likely will build. Uh the last point is is we studied studied

cumulative impacts and when the cumulative impacts were uh decided on or the cumulative projects were decided on it consisted of several other projects in this corridor that are no longer in the process of going through approval. So, by every consideration of what we've studied, uh, it's ultra-conservative and we've done that for a reason and city staff has been very cognizant of that as well. Um, so with that, I'll bring Luke up so we can speak to the project. Thank you. Thanks. Good evening, uh, planning commissioners. My name is Luke Serento. I'm the development manager, uh, with the applicant. Um, a lot of my thunder has been stolen already, so let me uh, so here we have our project location. Uh, it was touched upon a little bit. Um, our project is bounded by Evans Road and Barnett Road, north of Mclofflin and south of Ethan. Um, while designing our site plan, we worked with city staff to put our design in place with good neighbor policies. And these are just policies to promote uh sustainability of the businesses that we're looking to put into our buildings while also protecting the general health uh safety and welfare of the public and the sensitive receptors nearby. So some of the things that we did do um take into consideration of is truck traffic. Uh truck traffic will not be going further south than our project to Mclofflin. It will stop at our project site and loop back around up to Ethan on Evans and Barnett Road. Um we did orient orientate our loading docks uh to face internally so it is further protected and shielded by our buildings. Uh we've done exceeding landscape minimum requirements. So we go about 13% minimum with the city is 10%. So we go above and beyond uh decorative paving, screen

walls and burm burming landscaping to shield the uh shield the cars from their parking lot to the street. Um, additionally, we have um on-site signage that will be placed that will route the trucks from our project north to Ethanac to stay away from the sensitive receptors. Um, and also have anti- idling signs to uh limit the idling to to less than 3 minutes. And as it was mentioned, our project is in compliant with uh SQL. Um our project is cut across between two buildings. The first one uh building one is 105,000 square feet as previously mentioned on 5.3 acres. Um it includes about 108 auto stalls. Six of these are um EV ready and about 19 are EV capable for the future. Uh building one does not have any trailer stalls. We have 15 dock high loading doors, two grade levels and has about 15.6% 6% landscaping. Building 2 sits on about 13 and a2 acres, is about 292,000 square ft, has 244 parking stalls. 14 of these stalls are EV ready, and 36 will be EV capable in the future. Building 2 will also have 41 trailer stalls, 37 dockhide doors, two grade level doors, a truck court depth of 185 ft, and just under 70,000 square feet of landscaping. on. Can I ask him a question? Technical question. Yes. So, while I do not like storage facilities or warehouse like this, I am glad to see the smaller one. And my question is it's 105,000 square foot. Say someone has a motorcycle uh engine building company, whatever. He

starts off in one of these little little places that's 10,000 square feet and yeah, he needs a bigger place. Say he needs to go to him. What is the typical what would it take for this smaller building? Because right now it's kind of a it's a warehouse basically. It's a mini warehouse. Could he use could that person utilize that as a a factory and convert it? Would there be much cost in converting it to that? Um I don't have the specific answer, Tyler. I might defer that. Guess generally speaking, because he was saying, you know, someone could jump up from a small suite to a bigger suite. Can these really function that way without significant um investment? Um yes. So usually, uh these buildings are be are are designed to be demised. Um and so what that means is you can split up the building and put a demising wall. And so we could have two, three, four tenants in the smaller building. Um but uh initially we we kind of uh build it in a blank envelope and kind of design as we go uh based on the tenant demand. Um so uh a factory I don't know uh if that would be allowed by code. Um we'd have to look into that. It could be not even a factory. It could be an assembly of baskets. I don't know whatever it is. Something to step up from a little small suite startup to the next step. And this is this project is perfect for that. Um so this project is is not going to be an Amazon facility. I mean those guys operate in million square foot buildings and those are highintensity truck traffic. Usually when you have these types of buildings they're they're smaller local businesses that are growing and oftent times some of these projects only have three to five trucks coming a day. And I know that might look daunting when you look at this project and see all the doors. you see 40 doors, you're thinking there's 40 trucks coming in and out every single five minutes,

but that is never the case. We have a 300,000 certified building in Chino. Uh, and the local operator that we're working with right now, they only have three trucks come in once a day. And so, um, point is this can cater to small, midsize, or potentially a larger u facility uh for for a local company. Uh, and it's designed to be flexible uh to support the businesses. Thank you. Thank you, Tyler. Uh just a little bit more on the landscaping. We will be planting about 300 trees throughout the site, um including rightway. Uh and I'd like to note that we will be planting trees at the corridor to the south of the project to further shield, um our buildings from the residents to the south. Brandon touched on this a little bit. Um we are putting a bunch of infrastructure improvements at our site and beyond our site. Um including halfwidth rideway um on Barnett Road plus an additional 12 ft. Half width rideway on Evans Road plus an additional 12 ft. uh a dedication of land south of our project for a corridor and interim improvements of two 12- foot lanes and a six-foot shoulder from our northern project boundary all the way to Ethan. Um as well as a a traffic signal that currently does not exist along with fair share contribution improvements to uh Ethan Road and the I215 north and southbound ramps. Just to to be clear, you're constructing the traffic. You're installing the full traffic signal at um Ethan and what is that? Ethan and Evans. Evans. You're installing it or are you doing paying fair share? Uh we will be installing it. Installing. Okay. And you are you bearing the full burden or are you getting reimbured through combined

other projects? Um it depends. Uh it depends on if we do ultimate improvements or interim improvements. And Chris, you may be able to speak a little bit better on that. Sure. Uh I can touch on that a little bit here. So for for their projects LOS study, uh it doesn't actually warrant the signal here from LOS alone. However, with trucks coming in and making a southbound on left or or westbound left on Ethan, uh that obviously creates more of a a safety hazard here. Uh which is why we're requiring that signal at this location regardless of the LOS side. Uh because we do not want left turns for truck traffic across Ethanac Road. Uh as far as uh I guess reimbursement for that signal, it will ultimately depend on whether or not the developer builds the signal in its ultimate location or if it's in an interim location. Uh if they're building an interim signal just to accommodate uh the existing parameters out there, there would be no reimbursement associated with that. uh if they build the signal location like the mast arms and the poles all in their ultimate location, they could potentially be eligible for RBBD credit for the the future RBBD in the area. If they do end up building it ultimate, that means you're going to you're going to uh widen Ethan to the six lanes now and do curb and gutter and all that at this at the signal site. Is that what you're saying? Well, not necessarily. it would be more getting obtaining the rightway for the that rather than the improvements itself and then the installation of the poles at those locations. Um it wouldn't necessarily include all the curb, gutter, sidewalk and all that. Okay. Um I came across this slide and I thought it was pretty interesting so I

put it in here. Uh this talks about the the air quality within Inland Empire. Um and I think the the main takeaway I want here is that there has been an increase of VMT um about 37% from 2000 to 2023. Um however uh if you look at the the chart to the right uh there actually has been a decrease in exhaust PM emissions from trucks in the Inland Empire due to the implementation of uh new standards and regulations. Uh so I thought that was pretty interesting and I thought I'd share that. Um, as part of our SQL analysis, obviously we do environmental analysis and I wanted to touch on greenhouse gases. And so the South Coast Air Quality Management District has adopted 10,000 metric tons of greenhouse gas per year as a threshold for industrial uses and 3,000 for residential. Uh Menfy has taken it a step further and adopted 3,000 metric tonses of greenhouse gases per year as the industrial development threshold. And our project with the mitigation measures in place of prohibiting natural gas to the site as well as having off-road equipment be zero emission um falls under that 30,000 uh threshold and this is operational and construction. Additionally, we also did noise impact studies. Um, the image here on the left is our operational noise levels and the yellow dots are the uh study locations and at no study location did our uh noise level exceed the threshold uh in place. Um, additionally, our construction noise levels were studied at worst case scenario, meaning all the equipment at the same time, and those noise thresholds were also not at any not met at any study location. Um, additionally, off-site trough off-site

traffic noise levels did not exceed um the normally acceptable noise standards uh at either Evans Road on from Ethan to Mclofflin as well as Barnett Road from Ethan to Mclofflin. So, we really try not to disturb uh any of the nearby residents. Uh community benefits. Um we will be paying uh impact fees in the tune of $4.2 million to go back into the community uh to the school districts, police, uh fire departments, uh t uh transportation. Um and as Brandon mentioned and I mentioned a little bit, we are putting a lot of infrastructure and utility improvements for our project. Um and that is roughly about $9.5 million. So really investing back into the community. Um and we also are uh creating local job support. We have a project labor agreement in place with Lyuna. Um and uh we also support local business growth as previously mentioned um and establishes a point of sale within the city of Meny. Um and also Meny is experiencing a very big population growth and so being able to bring uh a development into the city and create more jobs is uh I think beneficial. And before you go on, can I ask you a question about just jump back to the um infrastructure you're putting in such as water, sewer, all that. Are you bringing it down from Ethan down Are you bringing it from Ethan down to your site or is it already on the road? Um, sewer and water and all that. Uh, we'll be going south to Mclofflin and then also bringing water from Ethan. You're bringing water down from Ethan. You're putting all that in, bring it down. Okay. I just wasn't sure where the infrastructure was at this point.

Um, and then also I just wanted to touch on the trade and logistics uh wages. Uh in 2022, the average wage for the trade and logistics industry cluster in Southern California is about $90,000 per year, which is 26% higher than the average annual wage of 71,000 reported all other industries uh in Southern California. In conclusion, I just want to say that uh it's been great working with city staff and I think this development is a great example of collaboration between private developers like us and the city to build out the envisioned economic development corridor and our project has been designed and planned in accordance with the good neighbor policies to ensure the general health, safety and welfare of his community. Thank you. Planning Commissioners, do you have any other questions for the applicant? or the applicant's team. Michael, Tammy. Yes. Which one you want? For our applicant, please. You're up. Hi. Thank you for your presentation. [Music] Um I'm I'm wondering if you explored other options than warehouses. We currently have warehouses on Cider Road which are currently vacant. They were built in 2024. So I'm wondering what was what was your rationale be you know with the warehouses here given the vacancy. I'm thinking Tyler wants to answer this down. Thank you. It was zoned that way. Um yes. So good question. Uh look, when we looked at this land three years ago before we purchased it, we spent a lot of time with the city staff and uh it was made very clear from the very beginning uh that the intent of the EDC

Northern Gateway was to provide industrial logistic warehouses. And so, uh, naturally, as a logistics developer, um, and having that confidence behind, uh, the city staff at the time, uh, we thought this site was a great location, uh, given its proximity to the infrastructure of the 215 freeway. Uh, this site, uh, does not require trucks to travel far at all. I mean, we're we're, you know, less than a quarter mile from the 215 on and off ramps. So, uh, naturally this site makes a the most sense if you're going to put a logistics warehouse anywhere in the city, uh, to be next to the the on andoff ramps and not bother anyone with the least amount of impacts. Um, secondly, I don't know if we could have really done much more, uh, under the EDC Northern Gateway uh, other than industrial from what our conversations and and the support we had from the city early on with this project. my I just have a a concern because uh I've been seeing a trend or according to some data that I've been reading on um let's see what is it called the Inland Empire warehouse that data is showing a softening in warehouse demand. So I'm wondering if that correlates with what you've seen. Yeah. So uh as we all know uh real estate is cyclical. Uh but that said, the the fundamentals behind warehousing is is going to forever be here, especially in Southern California. Uh we have the best port in America. We have the best infrastructure. Uh we're the trading partner with Asia into the United States. Um and so warehouse demand will continue to grow. Uh the other thing is as me uh Luke mentioned is I mean it's very exciting to see how much the city of Meny has grown. I mean, just from the last five years I've been uh spending time with the city, uh the amount of residential home development I've seen is incredible. Uh those individuals need groceries. They need

goods at their Walgreens. They need uh usually they like to buy things um on e-commerce. And so, uh I'm sure a lot of us don't like to have packages get delivered in two weeks from when we buy it. We all want it in the next few days. Um and so that's going to continue. Uh we're seeing uh continued robust uh job growth in this market uh of logistics and I think that's here to stay. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. So it's zoned exactly. You didn't have to do a zone change. You didn't have to do a general plan amendment. It was sitting there ready to be developed. That's correct. uh it was uh existing before we bought it. It was providing no economic benefit to the city. There's no infrastructure, no roads, no jobs, no taxes, anything. And uh uh we didn't just buy this and say we want to put logistics here. Uh we came in immediately and sat down with the city. Uh within a week of looking at the site, we scheduled a pre-application. Uh we got very involved with Orlando uh as well as several others at city staff before we made any intentions of developing this site. So, it had everything that uh we'd wanted it as far as support and zoning. Yeah, it's okay. Any other questions for Yeah. Michael? Um I don't like to use the word warehouse, just a big tiltup. Yes. And these guys right here, they're familiar with that, too. Um are you set on logistics or say you mentioned like people down in Tameca looking to expand. Could you put an expansion for like Abbott Labs in there or are you strictly looking for logistics? I think uh strictly for logistics, but the great thing about these buildings is sometimes

you have manufacturers or groups like Abbott that need uh a building like we have and they can put uh laboratories in there, they can put office. So you so if the right guy comes and wants to lease this area, you're not restricting, hey, no, I want a bunch of trucks. Uh no, we we need to keep it as designed for uh logistics. Uh but to the extent it it is allowed under the code and and what it's approved for, uh we're very flexible and supporting local businesses. And but you and you said these buildings are too small for Amazon, correct? Um last mile Um, yes. It's too small for Last Mile, too. Oh, no. No. Sorry. I thought you're talking about Amazon Last Mile. Um, no. This could be supportive of Last Mile and also AWS. Uh, I can't speak to AWS. I mean, it's a data center. I mean, it's a smaller data center, but yeah. Um, we unfortunately we don't get the benefit of data center that much here in Southern California because of the cost of power. The cost of electricity. Exactly. Um, but even if it is, nobody wants Amazon yet. We all order Amazon every single day. Um, but even if it's a last mile facility, which I believe the closest facility is in Marino Valley, or at least that's where my stuff comes from. Um, it's not what I would consider truck traffic. Um, my my delivery guy says there's like six to eight trucks coming in a day. Um and then all the electric cars are going everywhere. Um you guys have a last mile facility in Texas. Is is that consistent with that with the amount of trucks that are coming in there before the before the electric vehicles go doortodoor?

I I maybe don't fully follow um like if it is a last mile, Amazon approaches you and wants to make it a last mile facility. Um is your fac because you're familiar with your facility in Texas, right? Uh no, I'm not. I'm the regional partner here. Okay. Uh and so we operate as our own kind of businesses. And never mind. Sorry. And there was a comment about wages being I don't know what the the wages were just mentioned a few minutes ago. Yes. Um for Lyona, which all of you guys for Liona um those wages were for the Liona for the construction or for the actual employees that are going to be in the building after it's complete? The actual employees or the building. Okay. Thank you. Yes, sir. I just wanted to ask you so on the good the goodwill the good neighbor policy that was that you mentioned on your slide is that all neighbor all warehouses or is that your policy because I think I think I'm remembering that there was actually an agreement type of goodwill good neighbor policy there there is an agreement in the city of Meny that drives that um and so we followed that from the very beginning. Uh actually it only limits us to 300 ft from residential from our dock door or well over 1,000 ft. So we exceed that policy by lot. Thank you. Chris. Okay, Michael. Um south of building two, that future driveway. Yep. Is that enclosed on the property or is that actually the uh existing frontage for uh the Southern California Edison? That is not existing right now. That that is on our property. So it's

enclosed uh behind gates. Uh no no it's uh currently it's just vacant land and so there's nothing there. Oh no there's nothing there. Okay. But that future driveway is going to be on your property. Correct. Yes. Commissioner Mayor, do you have a a current list of people who are looking for that to to occupy the space that hasn't been approved yet? Uh, we actually do. We're in negotiations actually with a local group here right now. Uh, but for confidential confidentiality reasons under an agreement I've signed with them, I can't disclose that much more. But they are they are local to here and all their labor is actually in the city of Meny. And this is the only building that they have an opportunity to operate in. Otherwise, they have to move outside of the area and get new labor. Anyone else? Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. So, if there are no more questions for the applicant, um, Madame Clerk, are there any requests to speak or would anyone in the audience like to make a comment? I have three requests to speak. First I have Al Sanchez followed by Shukan Patel. How you doing council members? Uh my name is Al Sanchez. I'm a member of Leuna, Labor's International Union of Northern America. And um we love um developers and projects like this because it makes it possible for apprentices to get their hours and our apprentices are certified by the state.

So when they get their hours on jobs like this that pay well, they turn in a journeyman. So they're trained and skilled at the end. um the whole time they're able to get a pension, an annuity, and health and welfare for their whole family or for I I tell a joke. I say you're single or you got 10 kids, it doesn't cost any more than you pay it on your check. Um money is very good. The pension is awesome. Makes it possible for us to live and buy homes here in California. And you guys know that's tough to do. Um the thing we're happy about is um California is a state you guys know that jumps through hoops for everything. Everything's safety. Everything's they they care about us, you know. Um sometimes people say left or right, whatever, but the bottom line is things are built right. Um they they care about our health. And I think all this is good just for the economy, for our local members that live here. And uh we hope you approve this. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Shukan Patel followed by Evan McCrae. My name is Shakon Patel and I am an attorney with the law firm of Alshshire and Winder. Our firm serves as a city attorney for the city of Paris. Tonight I am providing testimony on behalf of Paris with regard to the Northern Gateway Logistics Center project. As you may be aware, Paris and Meny are currently engaged in what have been productive discussions in an effort to resolve various issues more globally, including traffic safety issues raised by this project. However, until a resolution of these issues is reached, Paris must continue to note its objection to these warehouses and

logistic center projects proposed in Menafi. Today, Paris submitted a letter to this commission commenting on the project's compliance with state housing laws, specifically the Housing Crisis Act, as well as the adequacy of the analysis in the EIR prepared for this project. We agre we again request that this letter be placed in the record of proceedings for this project. The following are some highlights from that letter. With regard to the housing crisis act, the project is located within the economic development corridor northern gateway where 5% of the land is intended to be preserved for residential development. Paris is concerned that Meny continues to approve non-residentidential projects within the EDC and has not identified a process for ensuring the 5% dedicated for residential development is protected pursuant to government code section 66300B1A as it pertains to no net loss. With regard to the environmental analysis in the EIR and the associated traffic technical study, Paris raises the following notable concerns which were not adequately addressed in the response to the comments in the final EIR. One, the traffic study does not consider the findings of the EDCNG master circulation plan traffic study for alternative truck routes and cumulative deficiencies. Two, the analysis methodology utilized for the Case Road Barnett Road at Ethanac Road offset intersections fails to fully analyze the unique characteristics of these offset intersections and ultimately understates how the project will contribute to the degradation of traffic safety at this location. Third, although the LOS and queuing is no longer considered under SQA, it is ultimately required with respect to general plan consistency and manifes traffic study guidelines. Four, the traffic study and err limit the recommended roadway improvements to site adjacent roadways only. The project

shall contribute to all improvements identified in the EDCNG master circulation plan traffic study. Accordingly, Paris respectfully requests this commission continue its consideration of this project until all of the deficiencies in the analysis are adequately addressed or until a time after Paris and Manifi reach a global resolution of the traffic circulation and traffic safety issues. Thank you for your time. Evan McCrae followed by Michael M. somebody's notes. All right, I'll leave them up here. Good evening, uh, commissioners. How you guys doing? Hopefully we get out of here pretty soon. It's been a little late of a day. My name is Evan McCrae and I'm a proud member of Lyuna, Labor Bridge International Union of North America and Local 1184. I'm also a representative for them. I'm here on behalf of all of our members, almost 6,000 that live within the county of Riverside, many that live here within many also. And we also want to uh offer our support for this project and for love it for good developers like this and good cities like you guys that also uh I would say value good quality construction and meaningful infrastructure improvements. This is the answer. As you heard him, it is all zoned here. Surprisingly, it meets all of your guys' demands and all of your guys' requirements. And we are very proud to be a part of this project and we hope that it it gets approved from you guys and we hope for a long and and fruitful relationship with you guys. Thank you very much. Michael M. Michael M.

Good evening. It's been a long night. My name is Mike McGavvern. I live on Evans immediately south of Mclofflin. I'm probably the only one in the room who's likely to be affected by this project. But I'm not here to complain about the project. I just have one little question. Is the section of Evans, which is currently a dirt road, all the way from Mclofflin to Ethan, is the section from Mclofflin to the project going to be paved or will it remain a dirt road? The reason for my question is if it's going to be paved, what will prevent the truckers from using Mclofflin and running along the residential areas there from using that road? Thank you. Thank you very much. Hi, Darcy Kinsey, city uh live here in the city of Meny, longtime resident, OG city council member. I just want to commend the applicant. I think this is a really good project in the right location. I think they've made a lot of considerations. They went above and beyond studying it and doing a full EIR. I find it very offensive that the the city of Paris is here complaining hypocritically about our warehouse projects and so I'm really offended by that. I have a recommendation for the city. I think the city should approach LFCco and look at uh making a request to deanex the southern section along Ethanac Road and annex to the city of Meny because that way then we can control it. That would be my

recommendation. Thank you. I support this project. Thank you, Darcy. Darcy, I think you should lead the way on that deanexation. I would love it. I have no other requests to speak. Okay. Okay. Therefore, we'll close the public hearing at 900 p.m. Planning Commissioners comments, discussion. Go ahead. I got I have one, but wants to go. Commissioner, Commissioner Holler, he looked at you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Were you gonna say something? No, I for you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, yeah. Could uh uh could you respond to the one question about the lower section of Evans adjacent to Mclofflin? Yes, sure. I can provide some clarification on that. Uh, so Evans is to be improved from the southern project boundary to uh, Ethanneck. So, it doesn't include all the way through to Mclofflin. that one there's like a gap there between uh the southern boundary uh there's ance parcel that goes south and then Mclofflin that portion remains dirt in the for the time being um at least as part of of this project uh and why is why is that Chris their truck traffic is not going uh south on the site where it's their the project impacts are all north uh on Evans towards Ethan. Thank you. Can I ask a question about that? Piggy back on there. The good side of that is it would dissuade trucks from going south. Is there any We have had other projects that have completed that

little southern section um either on the east side of the freeway or I think one on this side. Is there any benefit to the city to even though it's not required in the traffic study to request the developer to improve that little section, is there any benefit the city would find? Um, well, ultimately the with Evans being a collector roadway, the the intent is for that crossing to eventually come into play. Uh for purposes of this project, I don't see um a particular benefit other than getting it done. Um I'm not saying the benefit to the developer, but the developer benefit to the city like as in we could they could help as a goodwill gesture. Do you if we can keep trucks off by leaving a dirt that's great, but is there another side to it is what I'm saying. Should we look to ask them to contribute? I I wouldn't be opposed to that. Uh I will say that they are already going um beyond the LOS improvements with the improvements on e uh Evans to the north of the site uh and also with the traffic signal at Ethern. So it could be uh it could be considered but I would take that in consideration. So So how are we going to do that? Orlando, I'm not saying we should. I was just analyzing whether just ask well yeah but I mean does do you guys see the value of if it's dirt it does keep the trucks from coming down into the senior section until someone I mean what's ultimately going to pave that it would be likely either development that comes into south that's already built out um or a CIP department project. Okay. So theoretically I I actually like the connectivity. So I

mean I would be supportive of of you know paving that section although it doesn't have to occur right now. I don't know about a nexus uh for that given the uh completed environmental document. So I I have comments but I don't have any other questions. So when we get to that point, then I can make Well, may maybe the applicant could see in his heart to do it, but that's about we're not telling you you have to do it. Sure. Go ahead. Commissioner, I guess we're at that point. Um, so I think uh projects like this uh frequently can be difficult to to site. Um they're they are a larger scale than what um we often see. However, uh I think the location here uh is very good for this type of project. It is approximate to Interstate 215 into a full interchange. Um it has uh uh Ethan uh road that uh comes off of that interchange and you access uh both of the roads uh Evans and uh what's what's the one closer? Barnett. um uh within a very short distance to the freeway. So, I like that. Um it's flat. There's no residential areas that are immediately adjacent. They're actually quite a ways away. So, in terms of um the appropriateness of the site for this type of development, uh I think it is appropriate. Uh and and I I like some of the site design features that is all the uh docks are turned interior to the project so they're not visible from uh from outside the project. So I like that as well. So I think uh at this point um I would be supportive of the project.

Okay. As you can tell, I have a little bit of some concerns. Um, ju just because there's residents a neighborhood near the area. Um, from my research, I'm not sure if the market is supports warehouses right now. I see that there's a softening in the market. I see that there's a decline in uh well, there's an increase in vacancies in terms of warehouses. And that's just my concerns. Um, so I just wanted to voice those. Commissioner Nighton, my concerns were alleviated when uh number one, the uh applicant went beyond and above by doing a full-blown EIR. No questions be had there. And then when our city attorney gave us a very very confident uh also that uh the applicant went um even further beyond. So yeah I like this project. So yes so um first of all you know I'm no lover of warehouses. Short answer, I'm gonna vote yes. But I want a couple comments and then I have a state. What's that? Tilts. The tiltups. Um the topography of this I'll make this first general comment. Just because it's an allowed use doesn't mean it's great to have it here, right? It's on a permitted list. Um, and I say that because what's the the blessing of this project is topog the topography of this parcel has made it forced it to be too small to smaller entities and which is a good thing. So that's one reason I'm voting yes and they could be used as a transition type of business. So the curve of the channel all that and the

way it is it made them do two smaller ones. I would rather see those kind of tiltups up here than the mega ones that we've looked at. we already what four others we've looked at in the past year up in this area year or two. Um so that's my first comment. Um I appreciate them doing the inside thing, you know, the inside facing doors like like I haven't talked about. [Music] Um having said that, um so I'm going to vote yes for it, but I'm going to make this comment and I make this publicly and once again saying it to the council. We need to put a change the permitted uses in the EDC North Gateway. This is a perfect example. This they bought this property three years ago. It took them three years to get to entitlement. The council needs to start now on changing the permitted uses in the EDC Northgate so that no more of these come in. We already have what five in this EDC North. This whole thing will be warehouses. That was not the intent of the design of the EDC Northgate. It was supposed to be a combination of various uses for job creation, local business. It was not warehousing and logistics. That was a piece of a permitted use. That was not the spirit nor intent of the EDC North Gateway. So, I call on the council to take action. I've sent an email to one of them uh to not violate the Brown Act council. Uh but after this, I can I can email all of them because I'll have done my vote. Yeah. that council needs to take action to change the permitted uses in the northern gateway or we will end up with nothing but warehouses and we are almost there. If it takes years to accumulate these parcels and if we wait too long and someone's invested millions, it's difficult to say no without getting a lawsuit. So I call on the council to say change the uses in this area and remove the warehousing. We have been more than permissible on the logistics places in

the northern gateway. So, having said that, uh, I'm grateful that this has two smaller units and I will vote yes on this project. Thank you, Commissioner Thomas. Uh, Commissioner Thomas, I I can kind of I see where you're coming from, but if the council is going to act, I would prefer to at least have it set back so that commercial could be fronting Ethernet. You're you're the commercial you want is on Ethan, so the warehouse doesn't go all the way. Sorry, Tilta. Um, it doesn't go all the way to Ethernet, which this one does. Um, don't know what's happening with this one here. I'm looking at a map. Sorry, folks. Um, but we can have commercial stay at the Ethernet frontage, five acres deep or whatever it happens to be, and then the warehouses behind it. That I can I can get behind. We could talk about the design of it. Yeah, that would be good. Thanks. Thank you. Any more questions? Okay. So, since there's no more questions, there's two resolutions for adoption. Okay. Can I get a motion in a second to adopt the resolutions as presented by staff? Is it coming up on your screen to motion and second? No. No. Let's do another verbal. Okay. Okay. Can I get a motion in second for that, please? A motion. Mine's not showing up. Is yours? Just a verbal motion, please. Verbal. Okay. So, I'll move staff recommendation. I'll second. Okay. And then for the vote,

Commissioner Ramirez. No. Commissioner Thomas, yes. Vice Chair Holler, yes. Chair Madrid, yes. And Commissioner Nighton, yes. So, that passed four to zero. Four to one. Four to one. I'm sorry. We knew what you meant. It's past her bedtime. Congratulations. Thank you for all your hard work. We look forward to your project. Thank you, sir. Good night. Okay. So that takes us to uh discussion item 10.1 fiscal year 2526 and 2627 capital improvement program general plan consistency findings. [Laughter] Thanks. See you Darcy. This is Okay, this is item 10.1. Could the acting community development director please introduce this item? Thank you. As if if you recall, um this item comes before you every year as we are required to do a Yeah. uh general plan consistency with the CIP. So, uh our associate planner, Kimberly

Luna, will do the presentation. Uh I do want to make a comment, Commissioner Thomas, uh in reference to the first item as it relates to Antelopee Road. Um instead of perhaps doing a future agenda, it may be appropriate to as part of this um finding uh maybe add uh language to um for staff to bring forward to council uh the discussion in terms of possibly uh rep prioritizing antelope uh either in the next uh cip cycle or as part of this uh uh cycles. as well. Good evening, chairman, members of the commission. The item before you is the general plan consistent consistency determination with the capital uh improvement program. The capital improvement program or CIP is a big part of how the city improves the city streets, facilities, parks, drainage. It's based off the city's mission as that you can see here and is one of the main ways the city takes care of the community needs. The CIP program includes two key parts. The capital budget which covers the upcoming fiscal years and the long range plan of five years that outlines the projected projects. Together the two parts of make the city's five-year capital improvement program. Direction on which projects move forward is provided through city council workshops. After receiving council's recommendations, it is the planning commission's role to determine the CIP program is consistent with the general plan prior to CIP budget adoption. As shown here, the capital improvement plan for the next five years consists of 174 projects grouped by project type. The attachment to the

staff report reflects the complete and most current list for the five-year CIP plan. And here is a summary of the projects in each of the categories throughout the next two fiscal years totaling to 29 projects with funding estimated at approximately 29 million. The attachment to the report uh highlighted in blue shows the projects planned for the next two fiscal years. And as required by the state, the city's capital improvement program must be consistent with the general plan. The general plan is the city's blueprint for the long-term growth and development. And overall, it sets the goals and policies to guide as it grows and develops. It covers a wide range of topics including land use, housing, transportation, safety, and more. The CIP program plays a key role in putting the general plan into action and ensuring consistency with the general plan, ensures that our public investments support the city's overall vision and serves the needs of the community. Staff has reviewed this proposed CIP projects for consistency with the general planned and has found the projects align with the key policies found in the circulation, community design, land use, economic development, open space and conservation and the safety elements. [Music] Additionally, staff has reviewed the CIP program for compliance with SQUA and has determined that the five-year CIP program is exempt from SQA and is not a project per the SQA guidelines as cited here. In conclusion, staff recommends that planning commission determine that the 20 to 25 to 2020 2030 CIP is not a project per section 15378 of the SQA guidelines and is therefore exempt from the requirements of SQA and adopt a resolution finding that the projects

included in the fiscal year 2025 to 2026 and fiscal year 2026 to 2027 CIP and corresponding budget are consistent with the city's adopted general plan. At this time, staff is prepared to answer questions. We have any questions for staff? So, what were we talking about on how I need to rep prioritize or recommend to council about? You can make a recommendation in this to to ask that the council rep prioritize antelope. That's it. So what does that do? It goes this we we give a recommendation to council from this and then they take action and then what will it be like a official line item in the resolution or what would it be? Yeah, we can add that into the resolution stating that um me think about the language. I mean how does it how does it logistically work to get to them? Obviously, this this the uh CIP has to go back to council to get approved as part of the city's budget, right? So, this is one of the steps that's required to go to council. So when the budget and the CIP go to council, uh staff will include or or add language in the staff report that which we do every year that the CIP consistency went to commission and in in that report we will include that you had discussion about potentially maybe making some changes and for council to uh consider those changes if appropriate. Okay. If you'd like, we can add a whereas in the resolution that the city uh planning commission discuss the um the importance of antelope and uh requesting that the city council rep

prioritize it. Um or we can just add add it as a direction from the planning commission that city staff bring raise this issue with the city council. Um whatever way is is is most effective. I would use the wording and and I can ask the members of the commission if you support this statement. We ask that the city council rep prioritize the CIP to include analysis of earlier earlier expansion of analope road due to the cumulative um traffic effects of recent projects. I think the direction to staff to include that discussion uh when being brought to city council would uh would be adequate and would be really appropriate. Okay. Does the rest of the commission support that or Yes. Okay. Yeah. So if you do have a motion, it would be to adopt a resolution determining that the projects included in the CIP are in conformance with the adopted city of Meny general plan and directing staff and that the planning commission directs staff to raise this issue with the city council and to rep prioritize antelope as part of the CIP. I make that as as an earlier part. Yes. Yes. as an earlier a priority a higher priority in the CIP earlier. Thank you. Yeah, I make that motion. Second. Okay, we'll do verbal. So, Commissioner Thomas, your vote, please. Yes. Vice Chair Holler. Yes. Chair Madrid, yes. Commissioner Nighton, yes. Commissioner Ramirez. Yes. Wait. Yes. That passed unanimously.

5-0. All right. Okay. Let's see. Okay. So, we're going to go over now to item 10.2. Planning Commission Workshop Manip innovation district specific plan draft preferred land use plan. This is item 10 two. Could the acting community development director please introduce this item? Thank you, chair and commission. And we're almost there. Uh promise to get you out fairly quick. I know I said that two hours ago. um wanted to come back and have a discussion item. As you know, uh there's been a lot of progress with the minifation uh district specific plan and uh we wanted to give you an update where we are and to show you the latest and greatest as to what uh has come out of the uh land use workshop last time and u maybe get some of your feedback. Uh this will go to uh council as well as a discussion item and if if everything looks good, we will basically let the uh our consultant loose to start drafting not only the uh SP but also the draft EI as well. So with that brief uh discussion, I will uh introduce our principal planner in charge of the project, Dr. Darnell, to to give you the presentation. Hey, Doug. Thank you, Mr. Hernandis. And uh good evening, Mr. Chairman and members of the commission. I'm uh pleased to present this uh item to you on uh uh Meny Innovation District uh preferred land use plan discussion

item this evening. So I'll first start off with um just an overview of the innovation district specific plan. Uh it's located at the city's southern gateway along the I215. um and uh was was initiated as an economic development effort to diversify the city's local economy and address job creation in the region. Um here we have the vision statement. Um uh that has been drafted for this for the plan. Um, we envision it as a vibrant innovation hub uh with high-tech businesses, mixeduse options, modern architecture, innovative infrastructure, highquality amenities. It'll be dynamic uh with creating high-paying jobs and a range of entrepreneurial opportunities. Just wanted to start with that. Um and give a little background. Um we've had a number of uh public outreach efforts um over the last year. Uh we had community work uh two two community workshops so far. Uh workshop one uh in June of 2024 and then um second workshop uh most recently on March 24th of this year. Um we've had a joint PC uh planning commission city council workshop um to develop the vision statement that was in December. Uh and um and then a design shred and which was in January of this year um pardon me for the um for the missing date on that one. um from the March the most recent March

24th uh community workshop. Uh uh the um the consultant um presented three land use alternatives uh at that workshop. Um and there was um a lot of interactive input uh on on the alternatives which uh kind of focus had a different f each had its own unique focus. There was the cohhere the nodal social spine uh which you see here. um based on the interactive input, the poll, we had live polling and um uh other forms of comment on the alternatives and what came out of that was uh participants expressed a desire for walkable spaces, shaded expanded uh green spaces. Um they wanted to be safe and familyfriendly with recreation and community connections. um some concerns with density and intensity of the alternatives. Um there was a desire for retail, housing and dining options. Uh need for recreational, cultural and social activities. Uh also a distinct identity, public gathering, complete streets and entertainment. So um so with that um our consultant has developed a concept that tries uh that that um essentially incorporates all of the best elements of the alternatives that were previously discussed uh and also reflect the community input received. Um this and this plan here uh is a conceptual development plan. It ill illustrates the possibilities of how men the manifi innovation district could develop in the future

um with research and development campuses, corporate offices and headquarters. uh MedTech Manufacturing um uh located in the eastern portion east um between um Ziters and the I215. Um just kind of shows the example of the buildings and how how the sites could develop with that. Um it transitions to less intense uh mix of residential office and innovation tech campus um co-working and maker spaces along with some commercial uses uh west of Ziders. And then um the area that you see further west of Howard uh way is um would be primarily residential uh neighborhood with a variety of um multifamily housing types. uh green spaces and neighborhoods serving retail. So based on the um vision statement and input at the workshop, um this is uh a draft um land use plan which uh divides the uh the plan area into four distinct subdists and you can see the core, crossroads, the grove and the commons as shown here in the different colors. Um each district has its own unique character, land use focus, mix of uses, density, intensity that work together in a synergistic fashion to achieve the vision for the entire district and um as its own community in the city. Um so here are some preliminary development standards that um well uh actually yeah preliminary development

standards first starting with um the mix of uses uh uh for these these different districts. And so you see um the first one, the the commons subdist one. Um essentially it's a transition area from the rural residential to the west. Um it's a would consist of walkable neighborhoods with commercial along Howard. Um looking at town homes, stack flats, garden apartments, and so forth as shown here. um the crossroads um a blend of higher density residential, commercial and office. Uh so you see the types of uses um envisioned for that area uh more mixed use residential, office and commercial uh and so forth. Uh then the core um subdist 3 that's going to be the most intense area that's that's uh east of ziders um uh and closer to the I215. Um it's the economic heart anchored by medtech campuses um research and development life science corporate offices and headquarters uh and so forth. And then the Grove subdist 4. Um it bridges community innovation, agricultural legacy. Um so that's um that would have multifamily mixeduse residential office commercial with a with an agricultural focus. The um initial development standards we're looking at um and framework uh for each subd district is shown here.

Um these are densities and and intensities of development uh that go beyond the typical suburban densities that currently exist in Manif. Um maximum lot coverage for all subdists uh range between 55 and 60%. Um non-resident non-residential uh floor area ratios of 3 to 6%. Um maximum building heights uh range from 50 to 150 ft def depending on the district. Um the 150 ft of course is for the um for the core the subd district adjacent to the I215. Um and then densities ranging uh maximum densities ranging from 30 to 80 units uh depending on the on the district. Um and then finally uh the open space requirements are substantial um uh and be required um 20 to 30% um depending on the subd district. Can we go back to that? I had a quick question. So no that chart of the sorry there you go. So where you say the residential density minmax mean that means in district one there there must be an 8% residential minimum residential usage. Yeah that would be the range 8 8 per acre to 30 and numbers per can I ask for a clarification. So this when I read this residential density this looks like for example in the grove it's 30 to 80 dwelling units per acre not that's not a percentage that's that's eight so 80 dwelling units per acre if you build that on a podium you're talking about 10 stories tall exactly correct a density range correct

so I have two concerns with this number one did Did you throw in that or did the consultant throw in that much residential due to the comments from people or because I I didn't envision this district as so much residential. I saw I thought it was going to be more uh innovation, medical, tech, uh light industrial, uh assembly, whatever. And it seems like it's turned into a residential area. Did anyone get that feel too? Yes. I mean, I I maybe I'm misreading. I'm not sure that this is going in the right direction. Do you agree? I I I do. I Were you done with your presentation or are there more slides? I'm sorry. You're And you're just I know you're just the delivery agent here, but I'm This is that we can red flag this. So, go ahead. Yeah, I I would say um you know in in in the discussions we've had with the consultant and and input we've had so far I mean yeah the main focus is the employment is the economic development um driver of this but um the the residential is a very important element of this uh to to to really make this um that's what it is a place where the people that we have people that actually live there that can work there. And um seeing this provide more of a community which includes the the the the greater mix of use um to to support that that um employment center. Is that similar to like a Hershey's idea of I don't know if you're familiar. I like

chocolate. We are eating candy. Yes. Hershey's where he created um homes near where they manufactured the chocolate so that way workers could go directly to is that the concept? And and and we want it to be I mean we want it to be walkable. We want it to be a place where people can be and not just a not just a only a places where people can a place where people can work. and then they're only there from, you know, for eight hours a day only on the weekdays and then it's a and then it's a like deserted all the rest of the time. That's, you know, that's not the idea here. If Commissioner Thomas, if I can I can add a couple comments because um I just want to make it clear is that that subd district, it's not a residential only subdist. Basically what it says that if an if a residential component is going to be introduced it would have to be at this density so it doesn't spread out and take um a big area of of the uh subdist. Correct. So it it it could also go that the entire thing it's all manufacturing or or or or high-tech or whatever the case may be. Right. But it does allow for the flexibility of introducing residential, but it would be at those densities. It's not intended to be 100% residential because obviously that's not the intent of the innovation district. So I could see now remembering some of the pictures that were shown, you know, of how these places have been developed in other locations, how the residential is is part of the draw for the rest of it. But there would have to be but bumper guards on this. that I don't know how you word it, but that would prevent all the residential to come in and then there's not much commercial, retail or whatever

else and then they come in for a GP GP amendment or a specific plan amendment. I see that happening. We've already they've already tried it in our EDC and we fought it like three times. So, however that needs to be worded, I would just add that caution here because that's what the the residential developers are going to do. They're going to run in here and try and build these five 10 story buildings and be happy as clams. But there has to be some kind of mix that if you're going to do that, you got to put in so many square foot of industrial, right? Something to that effect, right? And and and I mean there is a lot of residential anticipated in this, a lot of units. Um but it's it's definitely more vertical and less land area for the residential and more land area for the for the um for the economic um component. But there has to be the innovation tech industries. There has to be some legal linkage. If you're gonna build that fivetory on a small footprint, you have to put in so much tech building or something, there has to be that requirement or we'll get screwed in the end because I've already seen it tried it here. So that that's a a great comment. Sorry to stop your presentation. Sorry about that. If you if you could complete because because I have a bunch of comments uh just like Commissioner Thomas. Yeah. Thank you. I'll continue. Uh so so with that um so here um following on what what we were just discussing I mean this is the buildout we we're looking at with that with that um with that development standard framework for that area. So, um, 2500 dwelling units, uh,

population of 5,500, um, non-residential building square feet. Uh, so that's all your employment. Uh, you know, over over 5 million square feet. Uh, so that really is the focus of this. Um the residential is is an important part but it's it's it it's really a small part compared to the the e economic. Um and then you have 6200 employees 115 acres of uh open space recreation. So with that um I'll try and move this along along as good as as quickly as I can. Um you already saw the development plan concept. This is the same concept except that we have a number of concepts that focus on um on particular areas of focus um within the conceptual development plan. Um and so I'm just going to try I'm going to cover some of the highlights. This first one is economic development. Um we're also um we also have one for place place m making features uh mobility and connect connectivity uh open space and then also um a healthy community concept. So um for this first one the economic development the e economic development concept um this illustrates a number of different things. Um first with the core district that's an innovation campus. Um where in the northeast portion uh

innovation campus northeast office and lab spaces uh up to 1.2 million square feet. Um this is the area south of Scott Road between Bailey Park and I215 uh where you see that cluster of of taller buildings there. Um and then also in the core district in the southern area southeast um southern area north of Keller Road is in also envisioned for uh innovation campus uh with 950,000 square feet of office and research development which would include maker spaces uh startup off and startup office spaces uh in this area. uh restaurants and retail uh would be located along Ziders Road. Um it's kind of a darker orange area highlighted there. And then um the areas that are sort of a like a lighter peach color. Those are the areas that um have had recent development or um just recently approved for development. Um so the plan uh doesn't want to just ignore those areas. Um we um it it considers those areas as you know remaining the way they are are developed uh as of now. But um you know providing opportunity for future adaptive reuse of of the um business park warehouse space um for more innovative related uses in the future. Um the crossroads district that you see um towards Scott Road west of Ziders um that's going to have 650,000 square feet of innovation campus, office and

lab spaces, maker spaces, um startup spaces along with retail restaurants, retail and community gathering spaces. Um then the Grove which is to the south west of Ziders um that's um that kind of focuses on um agricultural innovation um the farm community space and uh gardens uh maker spaces will start up office spaces. Um and then throughout the plan there's um sidewalk level restaurants and retail to to serve the people that work there and also live there along with public pause plazas. So I'll move on to the next slide and um this will be a little quicker. Uh so this is the placemaking concept. It includes elements uh such as uh an innovation uh plaza and labs showcase as well as other plazas, neighborhood gardens, um a community market and food hall, steam school with community uh space, a container village, artist sculpture park with stage and popup shops, discovery science center, um and uh other features like that uh which um include neighborhood central greenway and neighborhood gardens and commons in the residential area. Um these are these are kind of uh well like sh like like a shipping container. Um you you actually there's one near um what is it? Lo, the one example I think of is um there's a commercial center in Las Vegas. It's near the Fremont Street

District. And um these uh if designed right, they they're pretty uh they're pretty cool. And Right. and they have all kinds of, you know, shops and restaurants and um places to gather. So the mo the mobility and connectivity concept, it reflects uh the importance of providing connections for all modes of transportation throughout the plan including uh bike, pedestrian, transit. Uh mobility features include emphasizing Zer's road as a main spine through the district. Uh Zider is envisioned uh to prioritize uh pedestrians with parallel parking, bikeway and enhanced sidewalks and crosswalks, uh pedestrian bulbouts at intersections, and other traffic calming techniques. Uh the plan uh would explore roundabouts, midblock crossings for traffic calming and speed reduction. Um and then it also integrates uh new east, west, and north south connector streets, bicycle paths, and multi-use paths within each district throughout. Um the open space concept here emphasizes community comments on the need for shaded spaces and expanded green spaces um by incorporating extensive open space features including active and passive community parks, regenerative uh natural open space and community greenways around existing natural drainage features throughout. Um, there'll be a townhouse, common

greens, neighborhood pocket parks in the Commons District, um, a biofilia plaza and artist sculpture park in the core district. And then last concept, uh, healthy community concept. Um so it highlights a number of different things. Uh community farm, agricultural innovation, vertical farmhouse, farming, greenhouse. Um the core district features a pollinator park. Um uh near the I215 in the southern part of the core district, uh a landscaped air and noise pollution buffer. Um there's uh fe it features crossroads district features a community market and food food food hall that can offer produce and other food from local farms. Um so a lot of really interesting cool ideas here. Um also a steam school uh discovery science center and agricultural innovation seed lab in the crossroads district. Um so you know these healthy community features they align with and complement uh innovation technology and research and development goals of the plan by supporting sustainable development, health and innovation um with innov within industry such as medical tech or vertical agriculture. Um, which could also, you know, definitely serve as a important economic component of the plan.

So, um following this workshop discussion tonight, um we will staff will present the plan to city council on June 18th uh for council um for council workshop discussion at that time. Um we'll incorporate uh recommendations of the commission provided this evening um in our presentation to the council. Uh then following the uh June 18th workshop um we will prepare this draft specific plan uh begin the um EIR process preparing the EIR uh which would come back to the commission and council uh towards the end of this year. So with that, um, staff recommends the planning commission conduct this workshop to review, discuss, and provide input on the draft land use plan. And we are prepared to answer any questions. Thank you, Principal Planner Doug Darnell. Well, there's a lot we can be here. 12 if you want. So, this is a little different than what I was expecting. Um, when I think of an innovation district and you're wanting to attract high-tech uses or more sophisticated manufacturing uses or biogen sort of uses, I think of areas like Powway that have a lot of defense contractors that build super secret stuff that are that's all in enclosed buildings, but it's all very high high-tech stuff. or we go across the way

to Tory Pines and we get a lot of, you know, uh, pharma and other biomed sort of uses. I don't see anything like this. This, and I apologize if I'm coming across too um, harsh. I don't I don't mean to be, but this seems like this is an everything to everyone plan. If somebody said something, it's in the plan. The only thing I don't see in here is maybe like auto dismantling. So, but everything else appears to be I don't see how you can have a plan that works to do that. And and it's got extensive residential component. I mean, I I'm not even sure how we get through this this evening. Um, so I'll turn it over to my colleagues, but I I think this merits a lot of discussion and and if we're really focusing on an innovation at uh a dis or innovation districts as opposed to what almost looks like you're creating a new town center or an attempt to create a new town center. So that's that. I'll start with that and then I'll turn it over. Commissioner Nighton. I have a feeling my email is going to blow up in the next 24 hours. Um, if this was presented as is right now at a public hearing item, I I would deny the deny the whole thing. Um, and I didn't prepare how to speak on this one, but I but I want to say something. um our our mayor for the past five years or so, he's he he's been pushing a unique identity and every time he mentions it council meeting, I'm sitting right back over there and I and I'm sitting next to Ed Samuelson and I said, "Our unique

identity is community." And that is what I I've said that for five years. And all five of us, we're we're all different. We got nothing in common except for sitting in these chairs. Um we're we're we're five different fingers. I heard that one earlier today. Um but when we went to Santa Rosa, we came back not as people who live in Mediev, not as planning commissioners. They came back as family and I truly believe that and nothing about this screams family. Um, this screams just I if we had an NFL stadium in Meny, I could see something like this surrounding it. But I I I I can't see this in in Meny um as it is right now. I'm not saying it's a good idea or a bad idea, but um I would rather rather than coming up with a new specific plan. I think we should um you know, we have former council members, we had Darcy here today. Um I don't remember how far back in history we had, but they created the economic developable the economic development corridors and for a specific reason and to just pick that up and throw it in the trash. Um, and planning commissioners uh were involved in all that, too. Um, I I I think it's just um, in lack of a better term, I think it's just a crappy idea to to treat our the people who sat in these chairs before us to just throw away all their hard work and try to reinvent the wheel. And uh, I I can't support this at this time

the way it's the way it's written out. So, That's all I got to say. Um, no offense, Doug. You're doing a good job here, Orlando. Um, I don't see this you how much refining is the way you said this would go to the EIR with all this innovation with all this. This is a This is something. This We're throwing this This is a lot of money to this budget to create this. And it's like the bullet train to San Francisco. We're going to keep the longer we have it, more it's going to cost. Probably won't be built in my lifetime. And I I concur with Michael. I can't I don't see it. Can Can I make a comment on that? Yeah. So, I didn't mean to become negative ny when I said the housing thing. Okay. So, I didn't mean to squash this. I hope I didn't bring that feeling to the county commission. Um, I'll say this in sitting in I think all of us were s were in on those meetings, but didn't we all put input in? Did you guys all go to those? Yeah, I went to the one. Okay, everyone went to one. Um, the purpose of this is let me ask this one question. We have this map, right? You just showed us. Those aren't rec. The core doesn't have to be the core. That's just an idea, right? So if someone comes in in the core and they want to put in a medical building, they can still do it. Or does that map the map does not say it has to be that those are just ideas, right? Yeah. That that development concept and all of all of those focus concepts that go with that. That's those are those are ideas that are that are out there that this is these are possibilities of what this can become. So I think that it doesn't have to be. So, I think that may temper your comments on if if we if we looked at this map and said, and that's why we're

having a bit of a knee-jerk reaction here. Uh, it doesn't look like that, but if those are just possibilities, I could see having a vision, right, of of not not stifling what could go in here. So, I think we need to be careful in looking at the map, but that's not going to define what goes everywhere. Those are just possibilities. Um, so Ivan, is there any uses in that map that you say I don't really want that there? Well, I don't know that it's a it's Well, it's some of that. I I guess I guess my question is what what is this? What is this district? Um, is it innovation like like I'm thinking of down in uh Tory Pines? Because that's not what I see. I that that's not a that's not a walkable um area. Right. Right. It doesn't have the the commercial and the entertainment. Now, I can see maybe having a community location that has an entertainment venue or something, but the but the commercial and the focus on walkability, I don't typically associate that with with an innovation district and the mix of residential. You're talking about a 10story building in in one of those. Um, are you surface parking that? I don't, you know, I don't I would assume not. Um, so that's a really tall. We don't have anything like that and we're going to introduce that, you know, or could introduce that here. I think the I think we need to go back and and maybe discuss that some more. If if I could make a suggestion, I I want this to be successful and to create a unique identity for men on the way in on the southern corridor. I don't think we can adequately do that this evening and unless we're I mean we've already heard three other items. I know it messes up the schedule. Can we bring this back? Yeah. That's its own

item. And maybe have it as the first item while we're still kind of fresh. Yeah. Yeah. And and then and we will have seen it, right? We will have heard it and we can come back and not make such maybe knee-jerk comments. I'll I'll I'll own that. Not not not the others. I'm not speaking for the others, but um because I do want this to succeed and and I know that what you've been tasked with is difficult when you've been given all of these things, these list of, you know, this program is ridiculously large. I think I don't see how you can succeed in that. But I think maybe we can whittle that down a little bit and come up with something that works better. Is is that a is that maybe a reasonable way to proceed? Commissioner Holler, thank you for your comments. I think uh that's very appropriate. Obviously, we didn't anticipate uh tonight to go as long as he did. Uh obviously, as you know, this is a very important project for the city. And when we when we talk about innovation, obviously we talk about something that obviously we're not going to see in one year, five years. it maybe take 10 or more years to someone to plant the seed and eventually start something that in 20 years from now when I say we never thought this was going to happen in many right so I think uh I I like your idea I think we I want to have the opportunity to come back and show uh and maybe show it a a little bit different and um and if we have to um you know bring the consultant to further discuss and expl We'll do that at uh maybe a little different format where we have more dialogue and more time to discuss. Um I I do want to state that obviously this is going to be different. Uh we're not used to uh this type of development and what I mean by that is just even even the high-tech and and talking about five

sixtory uh buildings of office that's different and and and that can be scary. But that's also an opportunity to do something unique and something that it's not offered anywhere else. And we also want to tap into that, right? So I think we need to think big. Uh I get your point in terms of the residential because I see it the way you're talking about it and and differently that's not the way it's envisioned. So I think part of it is maybe the way we show the information. maybe we need to scale back and and show it a little bit different. So, we'll we'll we'll go back, we'll regroup, we'll come back at a future meeting because obviously I don't want to continue to push this and and have the wrong idea as to what this is. I want to make sure that we're all on the same page, not only staff, but planning commission and council. So once we give the consultant the go, it's a concept that we all buy in into it and we are ready to support and and defend at the end of the day. Does that make sense? Okay. Um since this is a workshop, would it be um better to have a designated a designated day that we just have a workshop meeting and no other agenda items? Let us look at the future planning commission meetings because we may have a light meeting or we may not even have items that we can just bring it back at a um regular schedule meeting. So again, the schedule obviously we're not in a huge hurry to do this. We're in a hurry to get it right. So uh we will we Yes. So, we will come back whenever we have to. And if it takes us a month to come

back, we'll do that. And uh again, I I don't want to push anything that we're not comfortable moving forward or at least making proper comments or direction to council and and again, we want to make sure the right information is presented to you. So, to be determined. Correct. Yeah. Okay. I appreciate Can I make one other comment is uh perhaps it was just seeing the map that was laid out that was a bit of a shocker, right? Um I think there's two camps and when I was in these meetings, there's two camps. There's the whole planner that wants the walkable city thing and then you've got the other ones that want, you know, bu businesses and tech buildings. I'm not sure everyone's online with a walkable thing. I'm not even sure I am. It's going, but maybe it can be presented in a different way. So, bicycles, no cars. I just want to say I really no urban living appreciate you pivoting because we are all tired and we're experiencing culture shock right now. So, thank you. Smart city. All right, guys. Can we can we move on then? Okay, so we already went through all our questions. This is a receive and file. No action is required and no action is made. So to be determined for at a later date. Okay. Um my favorite part, acting community development director, do you have any updates or comments? I I do have some comments. Um and uh earlier uh at the end of the warehouse item, Commissioner Thomas, you made some comments in regards to the EDC uses and and the division and what was originally intended for that area. Um I want to let you know that uh city council did have a future agenda item to specifically discuss that. Okay. Okay. So, um, and

we're also doing a discussion item with council, uh, regarding AB98. AB98, that's the, um, assembly bill that puts restrictions on warehouses, at least on on location as to where they can be placed, and there's certain criteria and requirements and limitations. So, uh, we're bringing those two items, uh, actually later this month to council to council and we're going to report back to commission exactly what that discussion was. And so, that information is coming and we may even actually have maybe a a smaller presentation of the same items that we presented to council. So, you you you get that information as well and we'll report back what the recommendation from council uh was as well. So, wanted to inform the commission that that that's coming and we heard that before and and and I think that's why council initiated those type of um future agenda items. Thank you. Thanks, Orlando. Okay. Does planning commissioner have any to report on committee activities? I got two items. That's all I got. Um on the 26th of April, I attended uh uh Meny Better together. Um briefly um couldn't couldn't do the whole day. Um and on May 1st, I attended the National Day of Prayer right out here in the parking lot. All right. Um and that's it. Thank you, Michael. Okay. Would planning commission like to request any future agenda items? We had one, didn't we discussed earlier? It was it was about um EDC the EDC thing and we handled that through um the comments. That was it. Instead of agendaizing it, it's it's

already going there. So, okay. So, at that adjourn this meeting and you're free to go and I'm free to go to the bathroom.