Planning and Zoning/ Board of Adjustments/ Historical Preservation - Regular Meeting

All right, let's call this meeting to order.

Thank you. If we could all stand for the pledge and then remain standing the invocation. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Now we can all bow our heads for our prayer. We thank you father for us being here on tonight. We ask that you look over our city, look over the country, look over our family and friends all together. Let our leaders make the right decisions on tonight. What's best for our committee, our city, and overall in Jesus name. Amen. Thank you.

Mr. Angelo, can you call the role? Miss McCull. Miss Wilson, here. Miss Douglas here. Miss Johnson here. Mr. Galuchcci here. And Mr. Light here. Okay. All right. If everybody's had time to go over the minutes that were distributed electronically. Uh we need um if anybody has any changes or

nbody. Do we have a motion to approve? Move to approve. Second. That was the minutes from 10:14. Call for hand vote. Can we get a hand vote on that please? I Okay.

So, the minutes are approved. We have uh before us two matters that must be considered and voted on by planning and zoning board in a quasi judicial manner. The two items are Z2503 being an application submitted by Carol Chadwick PE as agent for Florida First Coast Investment Corp, Inc. of Florida Corporation to amend the official zoning atlas of the land development regulations by changing the zoning district from residential single family 3 or RSF3 to commercial neighborhood CN on property located on parcel 02703-014. The second one is SPR 2511 being a petition for site plan review accompanied by resolution number 2025PZ SP11 approving an application by Michael Hicks as agent for Turpps Acquisitions LLC LLC, a Florida limited liability company for approval of a site plan for a new construction restaurant cookout in a commercial intensive zoning district and located on parcel number 02579-01 which is regulated by the land development regulations section 4.13. I'm now going to ask the city attorney to run through the procedures to be used in these hearings and to inquire the members of the planning and zoning board regarding any exparte communications.

Thank you, Chair Douglas. Uh the purpose of the following procedure is to ensure an applicant provides a complete presentation of the request of the uh planning and zoning board prior to any testimony being provided by staff. So the applicant receives a full and fair hearing on their application and any decision by the board is based on evidence presented. All public testimony will be taken under oath and everyone testifying will be subject to cross-examination. All documents and exhibits will be entered into evidence. The giving of opinion testimony is limited to experts and closing arguments will be limited to evidence of record. To accomplish this, the city, the applicant, planning and zoning board, and other interested parties will be recognized in the following order. First, we'll hear from the city, then the applicant, and then any party interveners, followed by public comment, and then cross-examination uh by the parties and any interveners. Uh after that, we'll proceed with uh any additional response if the chair allows. Then we'll move to questions from the board followed by final arguments from the uh parties and any any interveners. I'll then advise the board as to law and necessary findings and the board can deliberate and vote. Uh all persons have the right through the chairman to ask questions of staff, other speakers or to seek clarification of comments made by staff or other speakers and respond to comments or questions. Uh all people presenting written materials to the board uh must ensure a copy of those materials is presented to the clerk for the board uh for inclusion in the board's record of proceedings and official minutes. While the planning is only board welcomes comments from all persons with an interest in the proceeding, Florida law requires the board's decision in quasi judicial actions be supported by competent substantial evidence presented to the board during the hearing on the application. Competent substantial evidence is evidence a reasonable mind would accept as adequate to support a conclusion. There must be a factual basis on the record to support opinion testimony from both expert and non-expert witnesses. People presenting testimony may support their testimony by relying on factual information provided by city staff. the applicant or other information included in the city staff

report. At this time, I need to inquire of each of the members individually if they've received any exparte communications involving any of these matters and if so to please disclose them. Uh starting at the end of the Dasa. Mr. Carichi, no. Uh Miss Johnson, no. Miss Wilson, no. Uh Mr. Leic, no. And Chair Douglas, no. Okay. Thank you. Um, at this time, if each person who's going to offer testimony or speak to these two applications, if you could stand and raise your right hand to take an oath, do each of you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth in tonight's proceedings. Yes. Yes.

All right. Thank you. Uh, the first matter before you is uh proposed application Z2503. Uh this is a continuation uh of a hearing that was uh commenced on May 13, 2025. The resolution is a resolution of the planning and zoning board of the city of Lake City, Florida, serving also as a local planning agency of the city of Lake City, Florida, relating to the reszoning of less than 10 contiguous acres of land pursuant to an application by Carol Chadwick as agent for Florida First Coast Investment Corp, Inc. of Florida Corporation, the property owner of set acreage, recommending to the city council of the city of Lake City, Florida, approval of an application to amend the official zoning atlas of the city of Lake City land development regulations by changing the zoning district from residential single family 3 to commercial neighborhood of certain lands within the corporate limits of the city of Lake City, Florida, repealing all resolutions in conflict and providing an effective date. Uh, turn it back over to you now, Miss Douglas.

Mr. Angelo, you have a introduction, summary, and staff analysis application Z2503.

Yes, ma'am. So, this is Z25-03. Um, this is a resoning for um, Buddy's. And then what we're doing is reszoning the two parcels you see there, 12516-0000 and 125-14-0000 from residential single family 3 to commercial neighborhood. And um just to kind of give a brief recap because we have heard this one. So I'm really just gonna kind of pull the map back up kind of you know go back over kind of where we were and kind of what we've kind of want to present to you tonight. So you've got the parcels here is this one right here. And then you've got one right here. And you have a commercial neighborhood um district right here already that does border Baya. So, we've done a lot of research on whether we should do a text amendment. um it wind up being a lot more complex than um what we thought we would do because you also need to amend the comp plan and because of the um Senate Bill 180 um any comp plans that we send to the state would probably be rejected and that because of Senate Bill 180 because they're not allowing any kind of um text amendments to the comp plan right now and because it's in a bill just the way it's um organized and all we might be able to get it to go through because it does kind of we're opening up stuff, but if they see it as restrictive at all, then they would um reject it back and then, you know, we're back to square one and then the zoning wouldn't match the uh future land use. So, what we've come up with with the applicant um kind of working with them is they're going to let me get back to the map again. So they're going to combine all these five parcels into one parcel and that and that way it's one parcel located on Baya. So it'll all still be on material.

That way we can still protect um the integrity of other neighborhoods and keep from having a commercial neighborhood in the middle of a residential subdivision. So we felt like this would be at the best interest of both the applicant and the um protecting the regulations as we need. As you can see, this is a picture of the street here just to kind of give a brief um recap of what you had there. And that um these are the buildings right over here that would be reszoned. And so at this point, the staff recommends uh granting a conditional approval. As part of the um this approval, the parcels must be consolidated under a single ownership and combined into one tax parcel which will um be located on Bay Avenue. All right, that's it.

Thank you. And I would like to move my application record also and the presentation as well. Yes. Okay. Okay. Miss Chadwick, do you have a presentation? Um no. I would just like to thank uh Mr. Angelo for coming up with a great solution to the problem. Better keep hold on to him and seeing if you had any questions for me. And I need to move my application into the record, please. Thank you.

Do we have any party interveners present? No. Okay. Any public comment? No group representatives. Any cross-examination from either of the party from the city or Miss Chadwick? No.

Okay. Any questions from the board? I've got a question. Um, after they combine the five parcels into one, will there be access to the whole parcel from Baya or will people still need to go on the residential street to enter whatever is going on in the back? I am going to work with Mr. slay on a site plan showing that there is indeed enough parking as we go through all the buildings, see what's in them, and um there is access to all of the buildings off of Baya, but it will still have access to the street behind.

Um I think that's it for now. I'm sorry. That's it. I'm good. Okay. Yeah. Anybody else have questions? I have one more. Yeah.

Uh for Mr. Angelo, uh you'd indicated that with what's moving through the the Senate right now, chances are good that this would be seen as being more restrictive uh by adding u additional residential streets that are not on primary arterials into uh the zoning for a CN uh commercial neighborhood. How would that be seen as being more restrictive? It would actually be loosening up some restrictions. it. In my opinion, it would be loosening up the restrictions, but just the way the state is viewing everything, we didn't want to take the chance of going through that whole process and then getting it kicked back to us at the very end. And because there's been so many jurisdictions that have had things kicked back for, you know, that they've worked on for years or just you immediately, we've got even a text member that we want to do with the comp plan on mixed use that we're going to have to hold until we see, you know, what the state's going to do. what's in the bill 180.

So, in essence, is this the end of of home rule for local communities such as ourselves and the state's pretty much going to take over planning and zoning for us? I don't think so. I think, you know, this legislature session we'll probably see a lot of changes to that and I think some of it will be pulled back, but or we'll get a lot of clarity on what the bill is supposed to be. Okay. Do we anticipate um and this may not relate to this petition exactly, but do we expect a lot more of these creative out-of-the-box solutions to some of our problems moving forward?

Um I mean, if it makes sense and it's in the best interest of the community, you know, if we can work with the applicant and do what's right by the community at the same time, you know, that's kind of where we want to be. Okay, that's all I have, Madam Chair. Thank you. Nobody else. Okay. Uh, do we have any final arguments from either Miss Chadwick or from the city? Okay, Mr. Martin.

Uh, thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, the decision of the board should be based only on evidence presented by sworn witnesses. In addition, the board may make its recommendation to the city council after taking into consideration those matters listed in section 15.2.2 two of the city's land development regulations. At this time, the board may discuss the application testimony and any findings of fact upon which the board wishes to base any decision and vote on your recommendation to the city council concerning applications E2503 following an appropriate motion and second. And if it is the uh intent of the per person who profers a motion to incorporate into their motion and uh Mr. Straddler, if you could return back to the prior screen with the uh conditional language in it in the pres in the PowerPoint. Yes. If the person profering the motion intends to incorporate that condition, if you could just read the condition off the screen into the record and then we will uh prepare a resolution to that effect. But I don't think it will need to come back for a vote on the resolution as we have to do sometimes uh since you're reading it verbatim into the record.

Okay. So

that's the one. Okay. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Um do we have any discussion amongst the board members? Not really other than looks like we're going to be doing some creative work up here to get around Tallahassee for the next couple months evidently. When is when are they supposed to vote on that Senate bill? It could be sometime later in May, you know, June before we really know what the state's going to do. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Nobody else. Okay. Do we want to vote or do we have a motion rather? Move to approve Z2503. Second conditionally.

Second motion. Do I need Do I need to read the whole thing? Read the conditions. I guess if you could read that condition into the record. Move to approve if staff if granting conditional approval. As part of this approval, the parcels must be consolidated under a single ownership and combined into one tax parcel which will be located on Baya Avenue, the designated collector road. Thank you. Second motion. Okay. All right. Roll call vote. Roll call. Mr. Angelo, roll call vote. Yes. Miss Wilson? Yes. Miss Douglas? Yes. Miss Johnson? Yes. Mr. Kluchi? Yes. And Mr. Leid? Yes.

Okay. Congratulations. Thank you. Conditionally. Would you like me to proceed with the next one?

Yes, please. Okay. Uh board members, you now have before you propose resolution uh 2025 PZ SPR 2511 which states a resolution of the planning and zoning board of the city of Lake City, Florida approving an application of TURPs Acquisitions LC LLC, a Florida limited liability company submitted by its agent, Michael Hicks, for approval of a site plan for a proposed restaurant within the corporate limits of the city of Lake City, Florida, identifying said lands by the 2025 Columbia County tax parcel identification number 353S16 02579001 repealing all resolutions in conflict and providing an effective date. Madam Chair, back over to you,

Mr. Angelo, presentation, city staff analysis.

All right. So, this is SPR25-11. So, it's a site plan for Cookout, which will be a new proposed restaurant. Um this is for parcel number 02579-00001 which has a future land use of commercial and a zoning district of uh commercial intensive. The applicant is seeking to get an approval of a site plan for the new um cookout restaurant. And they do right now they have one ingress egress which is on Highway 90. And um so one of the things that we had to work with the applicant on because um DOT was pushing back on that entrance. And uh so one of the recommendations we're going to do at the end I I'll kind of go over the recommendation that staff what staff recommends but DOT wanted them to close that entrance and use the movie theater entrance and that which will not work because they do not have um um easement through there and so they're working with DOT on that. DOT has you know said as long as there's no way to move forward you know or move get to the site other than that entrance and they'll work with them on that. So but we'll go over that a little bit more on the site plan. I'll show it to you.

Okay. So, this is the current proposed site plan. Um, so because of that, this is the entrance that they were going to use on Highway 90. This is one that would go into where the movie theater that they would like to keep, but because of um they can't they don't have the access from the movie theater. They um they would not be able to use this one. So, they're going to close this off. And I've got a new site plan that I'm going to introduce tonight as an exhibit. And um and that'll show that. So, I'm going to go ahead and approach the board and present these to you. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. So, I'd like to introduce this is exhibit A. And this is you can see on the bottom of it, they've closed off that access and um you know, so it is a minor change to the site plan here. And there a couple little minor tweaks um also an area that they'll do. And um this is the proposed site. This is the access where they wanted them to use. and coming in through here. And that um and then that way they could close this off because it's so close to this one. And that um then you can see it on the aerial here also.

Where where's the movie theater? I I want to get it. The movie theater is right back here.

Or sorry, right here. This is the movie theater here. This is the where cookout will be. It will be right here. And then the movie theater has an entrance that goes in through right here. And and this is the one4 that would be used for them. And then you got Planet Fitness right back here. So staff review um customer service notes are standard notes. You know, they'll need application. Sunny River Water Management um had a pre-lication meeting with them um on August 5th and it was determined that the site was not grandfathered in. Therefore, an ERP uh 102 self-certification will be needed for the site which is standard on when you're putting down new pvious um pavement down. So at this time the staff recommends um to do a conditional approval of SPR 2511 based on the condition of um DOT approving the entrance on Highway 90. So as long as they go through the permitting process, which they're going to have to do anyways with um DOT and then they get that permit approved, then we'll be okay with moving forward with the site because then they'll have access off of Highway 90. And that's it. And I would like to move my um report and application and the presentation into record.

Thank you, Mr. Right. Um do we have a representative of for the applicant?

Hey, good evening. Uh Michael Hicks and uh I'm with a firm Sitech. Uh we represent uh we're Cookout's engineer of record and we also are the agent for the uh current owner that is Turpps Acquisitions and Cookout has an option to purchase the property and uh we appreciate working with staff on this and also we u we definitely are in support of the condition of the approval as written here into the record for staff recommendation. So, I'm available for any questions if you may have about who Cookout is or anything site plan related. I'd be glad to uh um enlighten you further. Thank you. Thank you.

Um Okay. Thank you. Thank you. We'll get back to you. All right. Do we have any party interveners present? Any members of the public that want to comment? Okay. Any crossexamination from the city or do you have questions for the city? Okay.

Does the board any of the board members have questions for either the city or the applicant? I have one, Madam Chair. Go ahead, Mr. Light. Uh Mr. Angelo, the uh attachment that was posted to the city's website with the staff review uh all the fields in that were blank. Were there any other substantive uh comments from any of the other city departments? No, everything else was pretty straightforward. There is a lot of utilities around that. Um, so anytime any utility work or any demolition, anything like that is being done, um, the utility department will have to be notified because there's so much utilities around the perimeter of that lot.

Okay. U, at the time this ended up getting posted, uh, was that just a a clerical mistake that the the review was was blank in all the boxes? Yes. Okay. That's all I have, Madam Chair. I got a question uh for Mr. Hicks about the site plan. Do you guys plan on using the building that's already there or you going to tear it down and start? No, the building would be torn down and new cookout will be approximately 1660 square ft. What's going to happen to the people that are currently in the building? They're just going to I'm not aware of any any existing urgent care place that was there for a while. Is that not there anymore? I don't believe it's there any longer to the best of my knowledge. That's all I had. Thank you. Was that Daniel Crap's old

what used to be craps agency and then they had urgent care in there for a while. Now, is is the restaurant just a a park or is there a drivethru? Yeah. Yes, ma'am. The traffic. It's a drive-through only uh restaurant. Um I don't know if you're familiar with the brand, but more than half of the restaurants that they have are drive-through only restaurants. Tell me more about it.

Okay, sure. If you like milkshakes, there's 40 different kinds. Um there's anything you get from the menu that you can imagine. There's from barbecue to to uh there's no seafood though. Um but everything else you can imagine is on the menu. Uh the family, it's still a familyrun um company based in Thomasville, North Carolina. There's 3650 approximate locations in the southeast and uh if I'm not mistaken, this will be the third location in Florida. Um, Tallahassee just recently opened and and as well Pensacola earlier this year if I'm not mistaken or late last year. So,

thank you. Thank you. Anybody else? Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

Do we have any final arguments? Anything else? Okay, Mr. Martin. Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, the decision of the board should be based on the evidence presented by sworn witnesses. In addition, the board may make its decision after taking into consideration those matters listed in section 13.11.3 of the city's land development regulations. This time, the board may discuss the application, testimony, and any findings of fact upon which it wishes to base a decision and vote on the proposed resolution.

Thank you, Mr. Martin. Do we have discussion amongst the board members? We have anybody want to make a motion? Uh move to approve SPR25-11 conditionally uh if DOT approves their entrance on Highway 90. Second with condition. Thank you. Um roll call vote. Mr. Angelo? Yes. Miss Wilson? Yes. Miss Douglas? Yes. Miss Johnson. Yes. Or Mr. Harluchcci. Yes. And Mr. Leic. Yes.

Okay. Congratulations. Okay.

Okay. So, next we have LDR2502, an application by the city council of Lake City to amend the text in definitions article 2, three, and 13 of the land development regulations adding provisions for an administrative approval process. Mr. Angelo. All right. So this is LDR25-02. Um this is a text amendment to add administrative approval process into the LDR. And so an administrative approval process um is used for like site plans, affordable housing projects um granting the LDR administrator um the authority to approve, approve conditions or deny an application. So certain um the reason we're doing this there are certain initiatives that the state has put in like um one is the live local act um for affordable housing which states in there that we every city every county must have some kind of administrative approval process. If somebody goes through the live local act um and they actually meet the requirements of the live local act, we have to hear those and approve those administratively and um versus coming in front of the board. A minute. Senate bill um 1730 clarifies the administrative approval process this year by amending paragraph 7E um to call out the proposed development under the live local act are to be approved administratively without any action by either the local legislative body or any quasi judicial reviewing body. Um also you have the yiggby which is yes in god's backyard. This bill allows religious organizations to build affordable housing on their property or the property that is contiguous to their

property and these developments are to be reviewed and approved administratively also. And it then you also have the site plans and so why is this important to Lake City? And it numerous jurisdictions have an administrative approval process um for site plans. For example, Columbia County has had one in for at least 10 years or more and that they've had an administrative approval process um currently um for minor site plans. Jurisdictions with the administrative approval process, you have Columbia County which is about 10,000 square ft or less of building and um anything beyond that then would still come in front of the board. And at Live Oak is at 20,000 square ft or less of building space. Um that was a recent um change to their LDR about five or six years ago that they added to that. Um so anything that's under 20,000 um would be approved administratively. Anything over that would come in front of the board. And at Ocala and Gainesville um anything in the commercial and industrial is approved administratively. Gainesville um everything I was researching I think everything they do now um site plan wise is all um done administratively. nothing comes in front of the board as a quasi judicial matter. And so some of the benefits to that, it allows for an expedited u process. Um no public hearing is required. Therefore, no advertising timelines. Um which also reduces cost and reduces administrative burden on and increased staff efficiency. in it. And I do have um the you got the current text that you have in front of you tonight, which is ours. We were proposing originally was 7,500 square ft or less, but from reviewing Columbia counties, Live Oaks, and some of these other jurisdictions. We've got two other ones that we'd like to introduce to you tonight um as exhibit A and B. and um

and that way you can look over those and we can kind of discuss them and kind of see which way the board would like to go. And um the you know our thought process in this is you know a couple twofold one let's speed some of the processes up for the applicant to get some of the smaller projects through and um and not burden somebody that's building a small office space and that with a lengthy site plan approval process. you know, we'll still go through the same review that we do currently right now. Everything will still come into the city. The city, all the city staff will still review them and um that process will not change and that the only thing that would change is um which way they get approved, whether they come in front of the board as a quasi judicial or whether the LDR administrator um would have the authority to approve them. So, that would help speed up some of these smaller projects. And um you know, a lot of these are already permitted uses in that. And if they check all the boxes of the land development regulations, we really don't have a justification to to deny them. And so then as long as they meet all the requirements of LDR, then the LDR administrator would have the authority to approve it. And um well, I'll go ahead and pass out the two different ones for you and give you a couple minutes and I'll kind of explain the the two different re uh options here. Thank you.

Goodness. All right. So, while you're looking over those, so I'll kind of explain the where the changes are and that um cuz everything else is pretty much consistent with what you have in your packet. The only difference is section um 13.11.5 and that um where we had 7500 square ft. One option we proposing to match what Live Oak does um and have 20,000 square ft of additional building or 40,000 square ft of imperous surface. The other option would be to um you know if it's a residential development or anything that's not contiguous to a residential development then we would approve administratively but if it is contiguous to a residential district then it would go back to kind of what's in front of you right now where you have the 7500 square ft would still be approved but that way if you had anything that might be controversial you know with a subdivision or something like that could still come in front of the board and still be heard. So, we're not taking that um function away. And that um kind of where we felt would be the better of the of the three options. So, that way we're still protecting the residential districts, but moving things through the process a little bit quicker. And so, I'm happy to answer any questions you have on this and um and get your feedback and see which way y'all would like to go.

Madam Chair, Mr. Light,

um Mr. Angel, I do have one question. Um would this also um take other board's roles and responsibilities in the in the process out of the equation? Uh no, for example, things subject to review under historic preservation agency rules, guidelines, and section. Now, this would strictly only apply to site plan reviews and um anything that relates to affordable housing and that that meets the live local um requirements. It would have to meet the state um statutes on um affordable housing. And if it meets that, then it would go through this process and that or a site plan that would meet the requirements that we set forth here. But it would not affect your board of adjustments, wouldn'tffect um affect any kind of resonings because those have to be done in a quasi judicial matter and wouldn't affect the historic preservation at all.

Okay. So for potential uh live local act projects taking place within the historic downtown core, there would still be a a review process for uh sufficient uh compliance with the National Historic Preservation Act and various city historic rules and guidelines. Yeah, we would still look at them from a historic perspective and I'd have to look a little closer into the um historic preservation. Um I know there's some language in the live local act um that they can demolish buildings and through an expedited process, but I'm I don't know the whole ins and outs of that. And but our thought with this is strictly um for the site plans and you know affordable housing initiatives and not mess with the historic preservation. We would still want to go through that same process.

Expedited demolition of historic structures. Well, that's what's in some of the state statutes under the live local. Then and does that also occur administratively without it coming before the HP? I don't I don't know enough about the live local act as far as the historic nature of it. I'd have to look a little bit more into it, but I can definitely do do a little research and bring it to the board and and do a workshop with a historic reservation and that way we can kind of see what that looks like and and give you a little bit more information on that. Understood. Uh that's that's all I had. Thank you. Any any other questions for Mr. Angela from the board? No. Thank you.

Thank you. Um any discussion amongst the board members? Yes. Um so I think we should definitely go with the one that has the residential requirement because a lot of times you know if if you're not around residential there might not be a lot of people mad about it and want to say something. But if it's around residential neighborhoods and think I I think people should have the option to come here and say what they need to say or want to say. So I I think we should go with that option. Okay. Thank you. Anybody else? Mr. Lardic,

I would tend to agree with Mr. Carluchcci. Additionally, um on option B, uh the proposed language for 13 decimal 11 decimal 5 20,000 square feet for a for a new structure, 40,000 square feet worth of additional impervious surface. That is awful large to be uh administratively approved with no public comment whatsoever. Agreed. Agreed. Um I actually He was thinking perhaps we should table this until Mr. Angelo can do the research on the historic um effects. Any thoughts on that? Mr. Lik.

Um yeah, I'd kind of like some more information about uh about what this is going to look like in terms of this board's future moving forward. Uh so yeah, if we can get a little additional information on how this is going to play in with other aspects and functions of what our three boards do, um that would uh that would help uh help me out quite a bit.

Anybody? Anything else? Yes, Mr. Angela. So if it if that's what the board would like to do is table it to you know to the next meeting to do a little research on the historic if you can kind of narrow down which one of the three that you would want to go for um then what I'll do is bring that back as the one that we'll actually present and recommend um and then we'll do the information on the historic also. Okay. Uh, do we need to vote on that or just a general? I think you can give a general consensus to the board that that's what you want. One thing I I would offer is um given some of the legal issues involved, it may actually be the February meeting before we're able to get it all pulled together and and able to pull together for a workshop for the board. But Okay.

Okay. And this tech uh text amendment change, is this also contingent upon any pending uh legislation in the uh in the legislature in Tallahassee. I'm not aware of any legislation right now that would affect it, but that doesn't mean anything until after the legislative session's over with. So, like for example, earlier when we were talking about that the one Senate bill that hasn't passed yet, you know, those issues are contingent on that. This text amendment is it do we know if it is in fact contingent on something that is slated to be heard this session? We don't know.

Okay. Even with the uh the Senate Bill 180 uh glitch legislation, there's always the possibility that doesn't pass. And we don't know exactly what elements of it they're going to try to tweak. And so uh and we don't you just don't know. We just know they may take a look at they're going to take a look at it. They may make changes to it. We don't know what the changes are and we don't know how it's going to pass out of the legislature and be signed if it does at all. So you just you got to deal with what you got in front of you right now and that's all you're guaranteed.

All right, Madam Chair. And uh in that case, I'd recommend we go with the version of 13 decimal 11 decimal five. uh that parses it out into part A dealing with residential, part B dealing with commercial or mixeduse zoning and with the numbers of 7,500 square ft and uh 20,000 square feet of impervious. Okay, agreed.

Thank you, Mr. Angelo. So, uh, something with Richard, one thing that we, you know, could do if we wanted to vote on it tonight is do a conditional approval and, um, which one you want to do as part of the condition, but also put a restriction. We'll come back, um, when we go to the city council, we'll actually go to the city council with a restriction of anything in the historic district. So, anything in the historic district would still fall under the normal um, guidelines and that way it protects the historic district. So, I'm I'm going to recommend that you wait until a workshop on all of this so you're fully informed.

Okay. Okay. Um, yeah, I like the idea of tableling it. I think definitely that 7520,000 square foot option would be the one. 20,000 40,000 is a large project. Um, anybody else thoughts? I'm with you. Okay. Yep. Okay. That's that's what we want to do then. We'll table this until we can get a little a little more clarity. And the definitely the 7500 20,000. So the um first option that was in the packet um the seven the 75 or the one with the one that the resial. Yeah, the one with the residential. Okay. That's what I want to make sure I clarified.

Yes. Yes. Okay. Uh, next is LDR25-03, an application by the city council of Lake City to amend the text of the LDR to add provisions for a new zoning district, mixed use zoning district. Mr. Angelo.

All right. So, I'm going to go through the presentation pretty quick because you've already seen this presentation on the mixeduse when we did the workshop and it's also been in front of the city council. Um, so we're pretty much all everybody knows what a mixeduse zoning is. It's just combining the uses in one area versus u uklitian zoning which they you've got strictly commercial or strictly residential um component to it. This combines those uses together. And so you've got a vertical mixed use um which is what you will see like in Celebration Point or like across the street here with the Blanch where you got the retail below and then the residential component above. And then you've got a horizontal um mixed use which you'll have like usually commercial to the front and then you'll have like a subdivision to the rear of that and um all working together and um making the area more walkable bikable. Some of the benefits to the community is an economic growth um in infrastructure savings increased property values community spaces and land utilization. um infrastructure savings. Um because you're combining your uses in one area and and you're putting a lot you can bring utilities to a a larger group of um commercial uses and residential uses and not have to have as many miles of um infrastructure in the ground whether it's roads or utilities. economic benefit is you know you do provide like the blanch across to here you know helps support local businesses. So when you have that residential component mixed with the commercial you automatically are adding a benefit to those commercial businesses by putting tenants and stuff that will shop those locations. And um you know from a safety standpoint um studies have shown um

between mixed use developments you know that there's a lot of traffic safety that goes into them because these communities are a lot more walkable and bikable because and you don't have to have um cars to drive to a commercial development from the residential subdivision. So you wind up having a lot of um a lot more safety issues or with a uklidian zoning in it. Community spaces um community developments um with an open comm or community open space tend to create a uh a social benefit for the community by allowing um people to gather and enjoy the time spending or spending time together. Um spaces like parks, playgrounds, walking and biking trails, food truck courts, stages uh with a seating area, etc. These will help um connect a community. um your property values tend to go up on you know mixeduse developments also and that the combination of the uses and the development help create a desirable and convenient living environment potentially boosting the property values. um landization. Um horizontal mixeduse developments create help create a community within a community and vertical developments tend to take up less land by allowing residential dwellings um to be above commercial developments. And then you um for transportation wise usually you'll see like ebikes, microransit, golf carts, shared pass, you know, different things like this making them more walkable and bikable. um a lot of mixeduse developments. Also, you'll see uh curbless shared streets making it uh more walkable and more enjoyable, you know, and more pedestrian focused. This is an example um that we found where you've got the commercial down here below and then you've got the residential up above. And here's another one where you've got

retail, entertainment, residential, and office all in the same same building. So, some key texts that you'll see in the text amendment. Um, one of the things we're recommending is to do a um density of 40 dwelling units per acre and then also have a minimum uh single family lot size of 3600 square ft. And um and then having a minimum non-residential lot um size of 7,200 square ft. Um that would be your our non-s single family and that so anything that would be a multif family would need at least 7200 square feet or more and um and then having alcoholic beverage establishment permitted within zoning uh MU1 and then MU2 and then truck and bus uh maintenance facilities permitted in MU2. MU2 would be more of an industrial and residential mix and of uses and that's why you know you'll see the you know truck and bus would be okay with that because the people that are tending to move into that area already know these uses are there and wouldn't be necessarily against it you know because that's somewhere they could walk to work or something like that. Um key takeaways, you know, we kind of, you know, went through a lot of these already. You know, the the benefit of a mixeduse is the walkable bikable and that type of environment. And that um benefit to a city is increased tax revenue because you usually get multiple uses in one area. The benefit to the citizens is a more enjoyable um environment where a lot of uses are together. They don't have to necessarily travel to get to the um where they want to go. And any questions?

Um the establishment of the uh multi-use zoning categories both one and two. Uh that's going to be uh complimentary to and in addition to the mixeduse category we already have which would be commercial CBD. Correct. This is just bringing that out of the city core into the rest of city limits.

Correct. And yeah, right now you have it's called compound use which is allowed in the um central business districts. You already have a mixed use which is how the Blanch was able to do what they did. And um even in residential office, you could potentially have a little bit of office space and a little bit of residential mixed in there. This is just actually gearing or focusing on actual zoning district where somebody could come in and do a larger scale um mixed use and actually reszone it and do a nice you know subdivision or nice uh development kind of like what you see at Celebration Point, you know, something like that where it's a lot more enjoyable and um you know that's kind of the focus of the MU1 and MU2. And so what we did was we looked at a lot of jurisdictions that had uh mixed use and kind of pulled from a little bit from each one and kind of created what we have now.

Okay. So this is just adding additional MU categories without making any changes what to whatsoever to current existing CBD style of mix.

Correct. Yep. this would be a completely new zoning district in the LDR and so um it' just be another zoning district inside the LDR and that there is a comp plan amendment they eventually will want to go back and do because right now you've got to have 50% of it has to be commercial and then um then you can have res 45% I think is um can be residential and then 5% um open space and we want to change those mixes but because of um the Senate Bill 180. We're going to wait, you know, till probably, you know, June or July or so to introduce that. And um so right now, we'll just kind of go as it is. We already have the mixed use in the comp plan. That's why we we need to really adopt some uh mixeduse zoning district into the LDR.

Okay. And then my second question uh looking through the uh non-residential uh principal uses um within these categories um can you explain to me the rationale for why alcohol beverage establishment would be permissible um see where's the legend uh yeah permitted by right uh for an MU1 whereas A micro brewery requires a special exception.

So a micro brewery is a little more intense and typically they've got a lot of equipment that would be going there. So we'd want to look at those a little closer where an alcoholic beverage establishment like a bar or something like that, you wouldn't necessarily have that equipment and so we need to take a closer look. How much water are they consuming, stuff like that. So that's why the rationale and plus a lot of the jurisdictions that we looked at had them kind of set up that way and um the same way. All right, that's all I have, Madam Chair. Okay, thank you. Got a question, Madam Chair. I'm assuming I I could check, but my iPad decided it absolutely has to restart right update right now. So, um

I'm assuming it's just commercial and residential, like you can't just throw some industrial and residential mixed together, right? So in MU2 um that district would be industrial residential and um MU1 is focused more on commercial and residential. So there's two separate zoning districts within the mixed use. Okay.

How's that look with industrial and residential in the same building? um a lot of it, you know, because usually when you see industrial like an MU2, it'll be more of a horizontal mixed use where you may have like um warehouses and stuff to the um front and like a subdivision to the rear and something more along that lines. And you wouldn't really see it in a actual, you know, vertical structure. Okay. And this would be mostly light industry. We're not talking tire factories right next to apartments, right? Okay. That's what I was I heard what you were getting at. Yeah. Any other questions? Okay. Thank you. I think

um discussion any discussion amongst the board members. I'm good. I like it. I like it. Okay. Do we have a motion? I can't. I bet it's not. Oh. I don't know what the number is. Uh, Madame Chair, I move uh approval and recommendation of the city council that we adopt the text of amendment as presented in petition LDR25-03 uh dealing with the mixeduse zoning district. Second.

All right. Uh, roll call. Madam Chair, just for clarification, that would be to adopt resolution PZLPAL LDR2503. Yes. Yes. Okay. All right. All right. So, Miss Wilson, yes. Miss Douglas, yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Mr. Galuchcci, yes. And Mr. Leic, yes.

All right. Okay. Next we have LDR2504. An application by the city council of Lake City to amend the text in sections 4.9, 4.10, 4.12, 4.13, 4.14, 4.15, 4.16, and 4.17 of the LDR amending the building height and lot sizes, Mr. Angelo.

All right. So, the current building height right now um in residential commercial districts is 35 feet. Um this was adopted in 2008. So um in the LDR originally you had a building height um set in 2006 and it which was basically went by the Florida building code and um so whatever the Florida building code would allow which was kind of unlimited and um depending on how the building is built and um in 2008 they came back and they bring it back down to 35 ft. For some reason, this was never put into our regulations and that um it never got put into the LDR. You know, so they adopted the ordinance, but never got codified into the LDR. So, fast forward to where we are today, um you've had a lot of hotels built, uh there are structures built that are way over the 35 foot um height. And um so we have a lot of non-conforming buildings because of that. And so that's the reason we're doing this. We're we worked with the fire department and the building department um to find a safe height that we felt like the safe uh that we could build to and still be, you know, within the a reach of the fire trucks and stuff that we have right now. And so we worked with the building official fire chief um to set on the um basically into a um height of um 85 ft. And uh in the RMF1 RORO and central business district um we recommend 85 ft unless a development is contiguous to a residential zoning district. If um they are contiguous um to a residential zoning district um then they would not be able to exceed 35 ft without providing screening or buffering approved by the LDR administrator. And so this is something that we didn't have in 2006 when they originally adopted it. This would help protect some of the residential neighborhoods and um in

commercial general uh um CI and commercial highway interchange and industrial light and industrial we're recommending to go to 85 ft. And why is this important to Lake City? Um as we say talked about a little while ago, there's numerous buildings that exceed the um the current height of 35 ft. and that um we want to update our LDR to be consistent with our juris with other jurisdictions and to try to make um as many of our structures uh conforming as we possibly can. And so Columbia County has a max building height of um 70 ft. Gainesville has special districts which they allow up to 14 stories um and 18 or eight stories in all districts and of um other non-residential areas. And St. Augustine has a 60 ft. S recommendation would be to approve LDR25-04. Any questions?

I have one. Madam Chair, Mr. Light, um, just out of curiosity, what's the height of the building we're sitting in right now? It's four stories, so you're probably looking close to 50 foot, between 45 to 50 feet. So why would we be limiting to limiting structures within the CBD to 35 ft if they like other residential districts?

So that would be only if they're directly to that's a change that we're doing right now. So like this building is not um contiguous to a residential district. So it would not be you know part of that 35 foot. So, what we're thinking of is like if you got a subdivision like the plantation or something and somebody's building a commercial development right next to it, instead of having a um 85 foot high right next to it and be able to see all through the subdivision, you know, we would want them to provide some kind of screening material and otherwise stay at 35 foot as a buffer. Okay.

Just to help protect the subdivisions. Um, how tall is the tallest building in the city right now? So, what I can understand is Target would probably be the um, tallest and I think it's a little over 70 ft and um, so it' still be within that 85 ft. And the hotels that they just built on city property or is it on county? Um, all the hotels that they just recently built um, mo the tallest one I found was five stories. So, you're looking at about 60 65 feet somewhere in there.

All right. So where did we come up with 85 ft? I mean that seems kind of tall. So that is um wanted to cover a lot of the buildings we have plus it will go um hand inand with our mixed use and that category and which is 85 ft or seven story there we have seven stories which seven stories would equate out to about um 85 ft and roughly a little less than 85 ft but if they put any kind of architecture up on the top you then they may get closer to the 85 and this is where we feel that we can safely work with the firetruck. firetruck has a reach of 100 foot and but they feel like they can safely work at the 85 foot height.

Okay. Thank you. Anybody else? Thank you, Mr. All right. Thank you. Any discussion amongst the amongst the board members? I think it's a good height. If the fire truck can reach 100 feet, I say 85 is fine. Right. Mr. Light, anything? No, I'm good. Okay. All right. Um, do we have a motion? Move to approve LDR25-04. Seconded. Roll call. Mr. Angela.

Madam Chair, again, and this is a nuance, but it matters because uh you're actually uh moving to approve the resolution, which recites a lot of background and factual basis for what the uh what the board is doing rather than just merely approving the application. You're approving the resolution. So the the motion would be to approve resolution PZLPA LDR2504. Yeah. Well, he said that. So, thank you. All right. Roll call. Miss Wilson? Yes. Miss Douglas? Yes. Miss Johnson? Yes. Mr. Galuchcci? Yes.

And Mr. Leid? Yes. Okay. So with no other old bit or new business rather move on to the workshop item which is apparently a discussion and possible action discussion on changing the meeting time from 5:30 to 6 p.m. Anybody have thoughts?

I like the earlier time because but when I get out I can eat dinner time. But if moving it to six is going to make it so everyone is here on time every time, then I'm fine with it. So if it helps people that I don't know, live far away or have a lot to travel, whatever, then that's I'm good with it. Do you have any thoughts? I know. Yeah. You work, don't you work a little further away? I did. I did. Oh, you do? I did. You don't now? Don't know. Okay. Okay. So, but I also want to go with the time that's going to, you know, work for everyone else as well. Um, I've adjusted my working situation. So, I'm here. Okay,

Mr. Angelo. Well, so the one of the reasons to the change too, one would allow everybody to get here on time and everything. You know, that was one part of it, but we'd also like to kind of match what the city council does and um that way, you know, the citizens don't have to, well, the P&Z starts at 5:30 and city council starts at 6. They don't. They all start at six and we think it'd just be cleaner that way and that's why we were thinking of it too. Okay. I had a feeling in that case. Yeah. Six. I had a feeling that might be the thought process there. Okay. Mr. Light, anything? I'm in favor of six. Six o'clock. I'm okay with it. Six o'clock. All right. Seems like six o'clock it is then.

Do we need to vote on that? Uh, that probably be a good idea just for the record. Okay. Um, do we have we need a motion as well? Okay. Move to approve changing to six o'clock. Second. Mr. Angelo, roll call. Yes. Miss Wilson, yes. Miss Douglas, yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Miss uh or Mr. Garuchcci? Yes. And Mr. Leic? Yes. Okay, we're hanging with the big boys now. And just for clarification, who was the second? Me. Okay.

Okay. So, uh, does anybody have any other items for workshop? Nothing. Okay. Move to adjurnn. Move to adjurnn. Second. All right. All right. Moving on. There's the one. All right. Board of adjustments meeting. Let's call that one to order. Um, same. We need Do we need the roll call shall remain the same?

Roll call will remain the same. Um, everybody's Do we have minutes from October? I don't have a sheet of paper in front of me. I'm sorry. I see. The 14th. Okay. So, presuming everyone's had a chance to review the minutes from board of adjustment from 10:14. Um, we need to move to move to approve minutes. Oh, okay. Second. There we go. All right. Show of hands.

Okay. All right. Minister approved. Uh, we have no old business. No new business. Same workshop item. Change the meeting time from 5:30 to 6. Move to change to six. Second. All right. Roll call vote. Mr. Angelo. Uh, Miss Wilson. Yes. Miss Douglas, yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Mr. Kawuchcci, yes. And Mr. Leic, yes. Okay, we have no other items before the board. So, move to adjourn.

Second. Great. All right. Call to order the Historic Preservation Agency meeting. Uh, roll call will remain the same. meeting. We have meeting minutes from 10:14. I presume everybody has had a chance to review. All right. Move to approve minutes. That's it. Show of hands. All righty. And again, no old business and no new business. And the same workshop item about changing the meeting time to six o'clock. Move to approve six o'clock. Second. Roll call. Uh, Miss Wilson, yes. Miss Douglas, yes.

Miss Johnson, yes. Mr. Kucci, yes. And Mr. Leid, yes. All righty. Move to adjourn. Second. All right. Meeting close.