Planning and Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

7:00 July 3rd, 2025. I'll call the meeting of the planning and zoning commission to order. Um, first or second on our agenda, I guess, roll call. Paige, could you help us? David Larson, present. John Meyer here. Pete Fuller here. Stephanie Garner, present. David Huer here. Kate Payne here. Kathy Olsson here. All right, we definitely have a quorum tonight, so we'll move forward. Item C on our agenda is approval of tonight's agenda as printed. The agenda be approved. Second. All right. So, it's been moved and seconded quickly. All in favor say I. I. All right. Hearing none opposed. That motion passes. Oh, we don't have a last month's. No, I did not put minutes on. Okay. Sorry. I'm sorry. It's been a busy month. No worries. All right. Item D, regular business. So, we'll kind of get right into this. Item one, uh, supply a survey for parcel LL 93316th Street Southwest Waverly. Paige, could you help us with the memo and then we'll get into it here. Uh, yeah. So, CUSB Bank has applied to parcel off 1.15 acres from their property at 93316th Street Southwest. Um, the section they are parceling off is the proposed parcel LL um which would have the ability to be sold as a future commercial development site. Okay. There's quite a bit about Oh, no, not on that one. Sorry, never mind. And so the access for this one will go through the property to the east. There is an access um easement. Okay. So the east frontage road will go rather than having it go from the bank. Correct. Yep. They could change and put houses along that

north side too if they wanted to down the road and come back to us. Right. Yeah, they'll still own some of that. Yeah, but they That's a different parcel. It would have to be a It would be a different parcel. Yeah, it would have to be a different parcel, but they could split it up and put that Okay. Yeah, I move that the planning and zoning agenda or planning and zoning commission recommend approval of the plat survey for parcel LL located at 933 16th Street Southwest Waverly, Iowa to the city council. Second. All right, a motion's been moved and seconded. Barring any further discussion, all in favor say I. I I ai. Yeah. None opposed. That motion passes well. All right. Item number two under regular business is a plat survey for parcel GG in the Waverly Industrial Plaza. Paige, that memo is a little longer. Can you walk us through that one? Yeah, this one's got a little more information on it. Um, city and staff and the owners of Prime Development um have been in discussion as you will see from the timeline for a little while with getting this project to move forward. Um what they are coming to ask now is to parcel off that section consider considered parcel GG. Um which is council's going through the process of vacating 16th Avenue Southwest. Um this parcel GG will be a combination of that and then another area being parcel off north of that pond that the city owns. Um, the intent is for prime development to be able to shift a proposed development to the west a little bit to remain out of the wetland area. And so, as you'll see on the timeline,

um, the council has already approved that purchase agreement. they've held the public hearings and are going through um the vacation process and uh any discussion from city staff or staff's been uh we've worked back and forth with prime a little bit to um get some plans that staff is comfortable with and so the purchase agreement I guess is not included in this. There is an irrigation line that runs north and south from that pond to the golf course. Um that is on prime development to move it. They are giving us an easement for that as well. Um so all those expenses will be on their behalf. So the idea is that Prime Development owns the north south leg of this not the or do they own the whole the whole L-shaped? Okay. Just so it's a little unclear. Sorry. 16th Avenue Southwest. Just that portion going east from 8th Street is what we're vacating. Um Okay. And that'll be a private drive for them going in rather than a public street. Um, and I I asked a page a question when I got here and they you said that I mean this thing is a it's basically 96 ft wide and 300 ft long or thereabouts. Um, and I was trying to figure out what kind of development we put into that and you said that, you know, they that the wetland doesn't that they can get a little bit of land going east before they get technically get into the wetland. Shouldn't that be part of this parcel if that's going to be part of the development? Yes. So once we do this platter survey, they're going to come

back and plat it all back as one. Oh, really? Rather than do that now. Correct. Yep. So will they will there be a definition of the wetland then that we'll be able to see? Yeah, we should be able to get an overlay on that. I found it on um the website. Right. It's not very good, but you can see where it is on who? On uh I'm trying to find it. Okay. The wetlands bathroom. Okay. Question for you. Is that why they're cleaning up behind where cousins used to be? Will that eventually have some to do with this? I'm not sure I call that cleaning up. Well, no, but they've been taken out of trees, you know. Yes. And there also I mean there's rubble and all kinds of things dump back there. Yeah, but I just wondered is that are they having discussions with you and along that lines? Yep. They're looking at a couple different things for the prop this area. Yeah. But it connects right to this, doesn't it? Yeah. Is that the area? I I haven't been out there recently. Is it the back area that they're cleaning out? Yeah. Like you said, they looks like they started, but I mean they've been countries and there's a lot of stuff back there. Yeah. But yeah, that would be the west portion of the 16th that connects, right? Right. Yeah. Well, connects adjoins. Okay. Um, so just a quick question. So the Eighth Street like head north on 8th Street Southwest to where it would end, I guess, to that private drive. Is that kind of support the whole truck turnaround thing? you know, that's kind of been a topic in other discussions, right? Um, yeah. I mean, with the hammerhead that's there already, that one's remain as is. Okay. Is that paved? I didn't go out there. I apologize. It

looks like it is from the Yeah. So, it's paved. There's a T paved T. Okay. It's kind of on the aerial photo, you can kind of see it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I couldn't tell what the surface was. I guess it's a little sketchy what we're seeing there. Oh, yeah. I didn't much. Yeah, you'd have to do a T-turn, but it's it it is doable. And I'm not sure why anybody would really go down there. Fire truck. Not by not by choice. Well, like snowplow, too, right? Well, but there's no reason even to garbage truck. Well, drive. If it becomes a private drive. If it's a private drive. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what I heard was saying right now golf carts go there to get onto the course. They come down and see you see right there when they come across. Okay. So, the wetlands is there's nothing like that is in violation or anything there yet. Um but there's still some active discussion. Is that a Yeah. So the uh DNR and the core of engineers has said that they cannot touch the wetlands with their development. So they're looking at shifting the development west which would be into this parcel that we're looking at selling them. Could wetland be included as part of rear yard or sideyard if they don't disturb it? Yeah. Y do you have a sense of what kind of development they're talking about putting in here? Um the initial discussions is residential. Okay. Put a row of town houses in there or something. Who owns private? I you know I can't imagine it but

staring at the Finanol building and the but I'd like to have a house in an industrial park. Yeah. Yeah. What you know what the price is but you got access to the golf course. Yeah. Don't think that's on the industrial park thing is on the golf course. Yeah. That's the only that's a stretch but Yeah. But there's a lot of wire comes down there right down. Yeah. Through there. Uh, I would move the planning and zoning commission recommend approval of this plat survey in the Waverly Industrial Park to the city council. Second. All right. Any other further discussion? We have a motion that's been moved and seconded. Sorry, I was just seeing some discussion. Okay. Hearing no other. No, that's fine. I was just making sure you didn't want to share anything else. All right. Motion's been moved and seconded. All in favor say I. I. I. Hearing none opposed. That motion passes as well. The address is somebody living on. All right, back to the agenda here. Moving to item E, staff updates. Uh yes, we will have our yearly update to council on August 25th. Um everybody is welcome to attend that meeting. Dave, I'll work with you to make sure if you're able to go and present and then we can get a um presentation together again. Yep. I was just checking. I haven't That's Monday, August 25th. Yeah, looks good so far. That's at 7. Yep. Okay. 7 o'clock here for their study session. Everybody's welcome to attend. You can also present, too, if you want. I'll be there. Tag team efforts.

All right. Anything else? Nope, that's all I have. Okay. Commission updates. I don't have anything. Anyone else? So on the city council agenda for Monday is some changes to the code uh code regarding accessory dwelling units which is something which has been I'm going to say forced down our neck by state law the approval of accessory del dwelling units and I think that at some point planning and zoning is going to have to look at that and see what it means because I don't think it is especially welldefed behind at the moment, but kind of letting you know to to check out check that out and be on the lookout for it. And so what do you anticipate the council is supposed to do with that? Oh, so basically we we have our meeting on Monday where the state has passed down some laws like we have to allow them and that's what we're going to have to do to stay in compliance with state law. Unfortunately, I don't know that accessory dwelling unit is a well- definfined term. So, we're allowing it without actually knowing what it is we're allowing. It's grandparents homes. Echo house, mother-in-law. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, or whatever, you know, but but I mean I I don't think it's clear. I sent you the article, didn't I? Yeah. I mean, page. You probably send it to Yeah. I mean, I I don't know if say it requires do you need a a concrete pad to put it on or can you just park an RV in your backyard or what does it entail? Well, the idea be temporary. Doesn't the Doesn't the code the adopted code said it has to comply to factors in our own ordinance? So, that would mean it's it's got to be occupiable as a permanent dwelling, which means the building codes apply and all that kind of stuff. It can't be an RV that's just parked. Yeah, I don't I think that's basically what that article

I sent you that said. Yeah, I'll just see if I can pull that up again. It was in the register when when I sent it to you a couple months ago. Well, I don't think you emailed it to me. I think you gave me a physical paper. Okay. I can't remember. That's too long ago. I I think Council Person Bourbon is right. We need to see how it fits and take some probably take some step to make sure it fits in there. I I'm mostly warning you it's coming. Well, yeah. So, what was the state's driver in passing the law? Why are you asking me? I maybe somebody knows. I I I cannot tell you what the state legislaturator is thinking. I understand that there's been a lot of news about this in, you know, places where affordable housing is simply not achievable, right? You know, LA, parts of California, parts of New York, regularly. Wait. cure sort in a different kind of way. Well, but yes, we just don't have the density problem that most kinds of places have. No, but uh but that's it got started. I can't tell you who it was that in the legislature, state legislature, but it's basically to bring the parents to help with daycare and also they don't have to roll out a lot of money. They're coming in from the country or something into De Moines or I think that's where it started. We actually talked about it several years ago. Uh we had a request at one time. But when I was young in New York, you had it was allowed if it was an actual relative and you could prove that it was a relative. Is that part of this? No. So it can be anybody allowed to have a rental unit. Correct. Yeah. Interesting. And so that's the thing. The state kind of leaves it a little open on what's allowed, but it's very it says you can't

restrict it. Uh it can be anybody, whether short-term rental, long-term rental, family member, non-family member. Um they want they're making cities leave that very open. So is that a separate dwelling or is it an addition to an existing dwelling? In my eyes, it's separate. Okay. That's what the said that was a separate an addition I think is if it meets current setbacks and so on would be allowed under our I've seen it where there's a firewall and then there's a small studio apartment. I mean we've got a house that's similar to that in our neighborhood that's been there since 200 and they just have a private entrance and mom's got her kitchen but then it's no longer a single family residence. Well, yes, because there is access from the other unit. The other unit can get to it. Function as one unit. So, you have to get from one to the other through or you can enter from the outside. Yeah. Right. Because like the one on top of a garage. Yeah. It seems like it's not a single family residence anymore. Well, that's a good question. This may not be the moment to argue. This one was built in front of this one was built for the college kids. Yeah, that I mean that's what I see here in town is they don't have to be relatives that have a spot for college kids, you know. I see that's where it's okay. Well, thank you. One other little thing I wanted to mention is what it would have been three weeks ago. Um LSI had a community meeting up there and I through some circumstances anyway I was told by Mike Kip who was with LSI

he said you should be there. He said the city needs to have people there. Well there were three or four council members there and basically the place is for sale. The entire campus, most of the campus, most of the Well, they're keeping a separate where some of the buildings are, but in essence, the top and the bottom are are being What about the school building? It's divided into six parcels, and the first one they want to get rid of is the 15 acres on the north side between the middle school and and the current campus. My first thought was, wouldn't it have been nice to have known that about four years ago? would have been a great place for an elementary school. But um you know and when the the president was asked, "Well, what about this new administrative building?" He said, "Well, we'd be willing to sell it and rent it, you know, but they want to have a presence there for the foreseeable future." But um they've got it divided into six parcels. They've hired Vine Valley Real Estate to be their agents to try to pedal it. So, okay. So, dividing it into six parcels, they're going to plat it out as six parcels depending on interest. They may things may become three parcels. Oh, okay. You know, I mean, they're So, it's this whole property. Yep. They drew a bunch of lines and uh depends on how things go. The only thing that's not included of course is is the northeastern Iowa senate office building which is actually a separate course but is there and there's infrastructure under that or uh that's a good question. I don't know how that all fits, but depends on interest and none of that cuz some of that's like I don't want to say it incorrectly, but some of that between there and the

middle school is kind of a wetland too, isn't it? Or is it just a Well, I don't think so. I think the wetland so it's just a retention. Yeah, it's Yeah, it's detention probably. Sorry. that I mean the 15 subtle difference, you know, the 15 acres up here where the old soccer fields and so on were up on the green. I I think that would probably all be developable. Yeah. No, I agree. Okay. So, anyway, of course, you have to have we may be seeing some things there because our comprehensive plan does not address that. It calls it institutional. Does anyone are there still residents then? kind of there's like six or just a few something like that. Yeah. And how many times right now? Very few. Interesting. Okay. Thanks for that, John. Any other commission updates? Okay. I will want to visit that next meeting. I don't I need to get on the road, but about our meeting back in regards to the golf course out there. Okay. I think we need to discuss cuz I think it's coming back again. And uh I think there were some things that were said at that doesn't apply to that development. You know, like what the golf course is, you know, that's his golf course. that can be the water retention that has to do that. You know, there was all those different things that were discussed, you know, that uh um you know, one of them talked about when he sold that parcel off to woodager out there. Why didn't he develop that when he got the money he would have profited, you know? So, I think we need to have a

discussion prior. I don't know when it's come back, but I think it's going to come back. So, how would we handle just discussion of a We could probably add like an um is old business on the agenda? We could add that as a old business and just discussion of maybe um requirements for uh development. Development and development. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we got we can't have it how you say it and go into discussion. uh closed door discussion has to be open door but I think we need need to discuss about that just to I agree I think if we put you know on the agenda that it's just you know plan development the things that topics that have to deal with and what can be talked about what can't you know what should be factors and things like that on when we're reviewing them got that on the next agenda Okay. Item G. I move. We are ajourned. Thank you. at the August meeting.