City Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, January 13, 2026
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About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Atascadero, CA
Meeting Date
January 13, 2026

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123 sections (from 256 segments)

0:05 – 0:540

Okay. All right. I've been delinquent. It's 6:01. So, we're going to call this meeting to order just so we can watch the city manager run across the room. So, we're going to call this regular session of the Ataser City Council to order. And we will begin with the pledge of allegiance led by Mayor Prom Dereas. Thank you. And roll call, please.

0:52 – 1:040

Council member Funk here. Council member Newsome. Mayor Promand Derez here. Mayor Barbo here. And Council Member Peak is out today. Thank you.

1:03 – 2:270

Yes, Council Member Peak is out of state, I think. Um, okay. All right. We will proceed then to our consent calendar. But first, welcome to anybody in our audience or those of you listening at home through one of the many avenues for which through which you can uh tune in. But we will begin with the consent calendar. The consent calendar consists of items that are considered routine and non-controversial by city staff and will be acted on by in a single motion uh by the city council unless otherwise requested by an individual council member for separate consideration. We will allow public comment on consent. calendar items. So, uh, with that, I'll ask, uh, my colleagues. Does any council member have any questions of staff or would like to pull an item? Okay. I actually do have a question, um, regarding the, uh, cleanup of the property on Yerba. Um, I drove by there and, uh, it seems as though old habits are hard to break and there's already a small accumulation of stuff in the driveway. Um, so I wanted to ask the city attorney in that regard. You know, this has been cleaned up uh fairly inexpensively, I would say, um, for a government job, but, uh, still at at expense to the homeowner. It'll go as a lean on their property tax. What, if anything, uh, do we do can we do to prevent a reoccurrence?

2:26 – 3:110

Well, first of all, I want to point out there's, you know, a public hearing on this that will be coming up. So, we'll discuss in more depth um what the efforts were, but I'm sorry. I thought thought it was on the consent calendar. Okay, then then pardon pardon me. Uh we'll hold that question until I was seeing it on the on the consent calendar. So, yeah. Okay. All right, then we will proceed and any member of the public wishing to comment on any item on the consent calendar. Okay. Seeing none, we'll return it back to council and look for a motion. Move approval of the consent calendar. I'll second. Okay, we have a motion by Council Member Funk, a second by Mayor Promand Dereas. Roll call, please. Council member Funk, yes. Council member Nuome, yes. Mayor Pro Timasz, yes. Mayor Bravo,

3:11 – 3:250

yes. Motion passes unanimously. Okay. Well, I'm excuse me. Motion passes 40 with Council Member Peak Absson. Okay. Thank you. With that, we will proceed to updates from the city manager, Mr. Lewis.

3:24 – 5:220

Thank you, mayor, members of council. First of all, happy new year 2026. Right. I think uh 2026 had flying cars a long time ago and other things, but uh here we are. But I do want to share uh on behalf of the staff, we wish you a very happy new year in the community. And a new year it will be. This will be the year that we tear down fire station one, that we remodel fire station 2, begin construction, pouring a slab on a new two-story station one, uh and renovate our police department to modernize it and provide great facilities for our public safety. This will be the year that we complete phase two of our El Camino Royale project and a beautiful arches over our street downtown and a lit tunnel that will be safe for pedestrians. More paving, uh, more and better events, believe it or not, are being planned. And we'll have a new general plan and zoning code that really, uh, moves our future of high quality jobs, great businesses, and really quality and more housing for our residents. So, a lot of great things coming. And believe it or not, the city manager will have a high school graduate. So, this is a a big year, 2026. Okay. I have many things to share with you tonight. First and foremost, I want to uh remind the community that we have a new adventure play area at the zoo. I think the city council is having more fun than the children there and the photo on the left. I'm glad you were there in the rain. This is our new nature play area and we kicked off with a ribbon cutting on New Year's Eve during our New Year's event. The Wild Journeys Play Zoo includes hands-on elements such as sandboxes where children can dig like a mircat, a pretend zoo animal kitchen, a vet clinic, and outdoor play features that encourage exploration and imaginative learning. And so these are the kind of things we're seeing as we go to our next level zoo, having these experiences, having reasons for families to hang out, for uh young people to learn with their hands the importance of conservation and why you should care about animals and their environments. So, we want to thank the sponsors who made this pro possible. Service systems America, El Camino

5:20 – 7:190

Veterary Hospital, and the Central Coast Zoo Foundation. Thank you to them. Uh, next we have our 2026 backyard burn season is now open. So, uh, this is the official opening. Uh, January 12th. Permits are required. So, uh, please do not just put a bonfire in your front yard. They are free and they're available online. Uh, but we have a before you burn website that you should look at. And for more information, you can go to atasaskcader.orgf fire, but burn season is open. If you need to have coffee with someone and you're finding that you're lonely, come to coffee with a planner. I mean, this is a great time. There is no better way to spend a morning than having coffee with our fabulous planners. Uh, we have a recommended topic that will be coming up. Uh, a couple months ago, we had introduced a ordinance on short-term rentals, and that's an important topic, I know, whether you can rent your home out, how we manage short-term rentals. We pulled that back because there was a lot of question from the community and a lot of feedback. And so, we're in the process of garnering feedback. So, we're going to do a few of these coffee with the planners. It's also a great time to ask about the general plan, other questions about remodeling your home or starting a business. But this specific one, we're starting to collect information and share information on short-term rentals. Regarding that, uh, early February, we'll have a larger, more formal, uh, meeting and discussion collecting information on short-term rentals. We do not have an ordinance we're suggesting, uh, at this point in time. And then, uh, slated towards the end of February or early March, we'll come to the council with all of that information on short-term rentals and ask you again how you'd like to proceed uh, with an ordinance based on all of that information. So, we will not be bringing a final ordinance to you then, just collective information and getting your direction on that. So, coffee with a planner. It's going to be a great time. All right. Next, a good time. The mother son sweetheart dance is uh this is one of our newer programs and you can

7:16 – 9:120

see that it's January 30th and 31st. Tickets can only be purchased at the Colony Park Community Center from 9:00 to 5:00. Tickets are not available at the door. So, please tell everyone you know that because we always uh it's sad to have people show up and and they they can't go and their kids dressed up. So, this event is just about sold out. So, mothers, get your ticket because it will sell out very soon. So, if you hear this and you're considering coming to the dance, it is $38 per couple for a task residents. Please get your tickets now. Unfortunately, the next event, the fatherdaughter sweetheart dance, is sold out already. So on February 6th is sold out Friday. So um that is the uh 12 and under for the younger kids, the 13 and over. So if you have a daughter, these are suggested ages by the way. So you could bring your child to either but the music and is different and and but it's still a great time. Any age is welcome. February 7th will sell out probably this week. So, if you want to bring your daughter, dad's, go get your ticket tomorrow at the community center from 9:00 to 5:00 uh for $38 per couple. Uh because we will not have extra tickets. Uh none of the staff people have extra tickets for their friends or family. This will sell out first come first serve. So, please please get your ticket. It's a great time. Okay. Spring youth T-ball registration is open. So, this is for 2026. Look at those pictures. Great. What a great sport. uh we do need coaches and sponsors and so as always uh we can only accommodate the young people uh that we have coaches and sponsors for. So the season runs from March 24th through May 21st. This is for 4 and 1/2 to sixyear-old children and a coaches meeting will be on March 19th. So please if you're interested reach out to us for spring youth T-ball. Uh, also spring season team registrations, these

9:10 – 10:550

are for adults. Registration ends March 2nd and adult social kickball uh ends uh March 23rd. So, by the way, social kickball, it's more social than kickball. And if you need something to do on a Wednesday night at Paloma Park, you go down and watch these adults play kickball because it is pretty good. We might start selling tickets to watch. Uh, but anyway, those are the adult registrations now open. Just a few other announcements. the band concert series submission deadline is January 30th. So, we always uh do get requests of how do I get into the concert summer concert series. This is it and it closes January 30th. We always receive more applications uh than spaces. So, please if you are a band and want to participate, they're due and they can be submitted via email or dropped off at the community center. If you are in vending or have a food truck or something else, we have a new weekend vending opportunity at Lake Park. Uh that deadline is February 27th. So if you know someone, you can apply or send applications to events at.org or go to ataskcadar.org/news. We are trying a new program of having rotating food trucks uh near the zoo. This is to support uh people going to the zoo, staying, having things to eat there. Uh and so this will be a really good opportunity that we're trying for our nice weather in the spring and summer. And finally, the Tamali's Festival. We're starting to talk about that already. May 1st and 2nd will be the uh Tamalei Festival. 10th annual, believe it or not, and we are now building interest for tamalei vendors. So, if you're interested, uh the form is available at visit taskader.com/tamaleifest. And space is limited. So, this is another one. Vendors first come first serve. So, uh if you hear this or know a tamalei vendor, tell them to to get it in now. So, that's what I have. If you have any questions, uh feel free to ask. Thank you.

10:53 – 11:480

All right. Thank you, Mr. Lewis. Does any member of the council have any questions on the city manager report? Okay. Okay, seeing none, we will move on to our next item on the agenda, which is community forum. Community forum is reserved for persons wanting to address the city council on any matter that is not on the agenda and over which the council has jurisdiction. The Brown Act prohibits the council from discussing matters not on the agenda. So, we we cannot really get into a discussion on anything anybody brings up. Um, but we can ask at our discretion staff to answer a quick question or perhaps contact an individual speaker. So, uh, speakers are limited to three minutes and we ask you to state your name at the podium and if anybody would like to speak, please approach the podium now and and if anybody else would like to speak, please go ahead and line up so we don't have to or folks across the room. So, thank you. Go ahead and uh first speaker.

11:52 – 12:290

Good evening. I'm Janna Magcguire. I am a teacher at Paloma Creek High School. If you don't know Pl Creek High School, it's the continuation school for Tascador Unified. A couple months ago in September, I came with some students and we had three traffic requests and so we are here to give an update and I have fewer students because some have graduated. We kind of have a revolving door in continuation high school. So, um, I brought the one that is barely hanging on. Isaac will leave us in a couple of weeks going to Wyoming to do mechanic school. Thank you.

12:27 – 12:500

Hello, I'm Isaac and I just wanted to just say thank you for the uh curb painting by the bus stop. It kind of helped us out to see better and just kind of waiting on the other ones, but it's all good. Thank you. All right. Thank you and thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention. Next speaker, Mr. Oslin.

12:47 – 14:410

Good evening, council and city staff. I appreciate the concern that I missed the last two meetings. Of course, holiday season. I did go to a holiday party, which I felt over uh was probably a better choice than coming here to hear about an or an urgency ordinance that u I'm disappointed in. Not that we did it, but that we wasted staff money because you have to come back. My my understanding is in a year and make it a permanent uh deal. So, we're doing it once again. So, that's the first time I've seen our city not be fiscally responsible when the ground's wet and we're worried about fireworks, which I hate because my animals don't like them. But for the fire side, I don't know. I think it was a waste of time. Secondly, uh when it comes to the uh fatheraughter and um dances going on, uh I got in line at 9:05 in the morning when they went on sale. I was in the top 30 getting tickets. And I want to commend the staff this year. They were on the ball. They were cheery. They were making sure people knew to fill out the paperwork before they got back in line. And they did a fabulous job. So to the rec staff there that was there, congratulations. That was probably u the best staff so far. Um so we have that. On another note, I haven't seen it on the agenda yet, so if it is, please correct me. But, uh, Slowcog pushing their 1% sales tax or whatever they're going to do. Um, I really hope that this council says no and has the gumption to tell them no. Um, a 10-year project just doesn't work for me for my tax dollars being tied up.

14:40 – 15:180

Mr. Rosen, I'm going to interrupt you there because on the agenda this evening is a discussion, not a discussion, but a presentation. Perfect. I'll talk afterwards. Thank you. So, uh, you you can, you know, speak that. Thank you. I thought I saw that, but I didn't see it in the short brief again. So, thank you. It's not. All right. Well, good to be back, and I appreciate it, and I will always keep you guys on your toes. Um, whether I've been in your house or socialized with you, whatever, I will still call you out. And, uh, welcome to the new year. Thank you. Well, thank you for speaking again and um in regards I think Mr. Lewis regards the one question. I don't know if you could

15:16 – 15:370

Yes, I'd be happy to do that. I I have no pleasure in correcting Mr. Osland in public, but I will do so. Uh he is not correct. That is with land use that you bring back an urgency ordinance. So, this is a non-land use item. It is a permanent ordinance. So, we were efficient. Thank you, sir.

15:32 – 16:540

Very good. Next speaker, please. My name is uh Clyde Snider, resident of Tescadero South End Paloma Park. Um so Phil, I'm gonna disappoint you. I'm not going to get into the full rant because our mayor did what any good administrator does. He connected me with the right person tonight, which is Ryan over there. Uh I came to uh for Mr. Mayor and Mr. City Engineer. You can ignore my email that I sent last week. I had my question answered. I came to speak concerning the refill inlet pipe for a tascadero lake. And given that typically we've been, you know, three, four years ago, there's two backto-back winters. After this kind of rain, it was overflowing. And so I've gotten some little bit of information about uh what was happening and I didn't realize there's abundant level of planning and consideration to the project going on which I'm happy to hear and I wish you Godspeed with it and all the funding that you need to get it carried out. So anyways, thank you and will you be at the coffee? Okay. Thank you.

16:53 – 17:150

Thank you, Mr. Snider. Anybody else wishing to speak in community forum? Okay, seeing no one approached, we will close community forum. We will move on to our next agenda item, which is a public hearing regarding our ADU ordinance. ADU ordinance update or accessory dwelling unit update that will be presented by Mr. Dunmore, our community development director.

17:15 – 19:150

Thank you, Mayor and Council. Tonight, I think we're in the same position as many other communities throughout the state of California because I think most of us received a letter from housing and community development telling us that our accessory dwelling in ordinances needed work. And in fact, every other city in our county who I've conferred with have received similar letters. So, that's why we're here tonight. We're here to just do some updates to our accessory dwelling unit code primarily in response to the state. Now, normally we'd like to hold these code updates for a larger code up update like what we're doing this this year, but uh the state has told us we have to do this now or repeal our whole ordinance. At first, we were going to repeal the whole thing, but then we thought, you know what? Let's just take care of it. Let's get these things done. So, here we are tonight. Some really minor updates. Just as a reminder, we originally adopted our accessory dwelling, you know, ordinance way back in 2003. Uh at that time it was simply called secondary dwelling units and it was in 2025 about a year ago that we did the primary updates and those are the updates we sent to HCD for their approval. Took them about eight months to get back to us. So just a few months ago they did finally review and get back to us and a lot of other local cities and wanted to see these adjustments. Now, as you've probably heard, state law is constantly evolving, constantly changing. Lots of Senate bills to try and stimulate housing production, make housing affordability. Some of these changes really are trying to go that way, but we're just racing to constantly keep up with these bills. So, the current updates tonight really just reflect compliance with housing and community development, and a lot of it's just nuances and wording. Uh but then again, there's also another assembly bill 1154 that amends the junior ADU requirements. Now, fortunately, we've got our planning

19:14 – 19:270

manager here tonight, and she's going to get into the details, into the weeds, and probably a little more eloquently tell you about all these changes, especially on the multif family side. So, here's Kelly.

19:29 – 21:290

Good evening. Um so our first modification that we're making relates to multifamily accessory dwelling units. Um so our current code we're a very infill oriented city. We tried to convince the state that we should be building our sites out to full density or close to full density before we allow for ADUs which can sometimes be units that do not pay development impact fees or have certain concessions that go along with them. Um the state uh disagreed and so they are requiring that we amend our code to allow accessory dwelling units regardless of density that the site is built out to. Um current um language and state law does allow up to eight detached ADUs and it allows conversions of existing space to to a number of units equal to 25% of the total units on site. That doesn't mean that a site can add eight ADUs. if they have one unit, they only get one ADU. Um, so there will still be land available for infill density and development. Um, just a little bit different than we might have envisioned it. The second second section that the state had some comments on was related to setbacks. Um, we had some increased setbacks for larger accessory dwelling units. The state is holding to their minimum 4 foot regardless of the size of units. And so we are changing language related to that to reflect state law and state interpretation. As Phil mentioned, there was a new assembly bill that touched state density uh state accessory dwelling unit uh code. Um the current law requires owner occupancy on lots with a junior accessory dwelling unit. This was because um the when the code was originally written, they kind of thought this would be a master bedroom in a house that you could have a small kitchenet in and turn into a unit and you might share a restroom with the original house. They're finding less and

21:28 – 23:270

less of that. They're finding that people don't want to share sanitation facilities in their homes. And so a lot of these units are completely separate units with their own facilities in them. And so the new state law removes that requirement for owner occupancy unless they do share a restroom with the primary unit. Couple other minor amendments as we went through our code and our city attorney helped us out with that too. Um updating some state law references to make sure that everything is consistent. Um we are modifying the deed restriction section to remove that language. It's a little bit triggering at the state level and we're making it very clear that this is just um a deed notification or an agreement so that um future owners of the property understand the limitations when they purchase the property. And we're adding clarification that constructing an ADU does not trigger fire sprinklers in a separate building on the site. When we did go to planning commission, um, some of the planning commissioners were new and were reading this ordinance for the first time. And when they came to the height section, they were concerned that because a lot of our parcels on the west side specifically are very sloped, that the minimum height that the state sets for ADUs would be um not feasible to build an ADU on slope sites. And so they did recommend that the council look at some alternatives for some additional height for ADUs on sloped properties. Um, one of the options that was thrown out was just to measure height from the shortest elevation, so the uphill side of the slope. Um, that's a different methodology than we current use currently use in our code and could allow for some unforeseen consequences on the the rear portion of the building in terms of impact to neighboring properties and aesthetics. Um, so option B would be to just add five feet to the height. It would maintain the current methodology for measuring height and would give that additional allowance. So, if you were to um agree with planning commission's recommendation for

23:26 – 24:250

some additional height, there is some code text language that we've provided that can be added into the ordinance this evening. And that would just increase the height by 5T for detached ADUs that complies with the underlying setbacks. So, these are not the 4ft side and rear setback ADUs. Um, and where the footprint of the unit is located on a slope of 20% or greater. So with that, planning commission did recommend that council adopt the ordinance before you this evening with modifications to allow for additional height on sloped parcels. As always, the council has um some alternatives tonight. Um you can recommend additional modifications to the proposed code and you can um determine that some more information is needed and we can uh refer the item back to staff and uh hear this item again at a later date. That does conclude our presentation.

24:24 – 24:580

Okay. All right. And we're available for questions. Question slot. Luke cut me off. That was it. All right. Thank you. And I notice uh Mr. Knight that the speaker or the microphones seem particularly sensitive tonight. I need to sit farther back. Did something change or they seem loud. Okay. Got it. All right. Thank you. Um All right. Does any I'm going to start on my right with council member Newsome and see if council members have questions. I have no questions for staff. Okay. Council member Funk.

24:59 – 25:500

Yeah. Took a few tries on the microme. Yes. Uh could you just uh tell us if there are any major downsides to allowing the um slope modification recommended by the planning commission as interpreted by staff? There are not a lot of downsides to that. Um adding additional height does create that allowance for um buildings on slope lots. Um it also allows for units to have roof form. Um when you have an extreme height limitation and you can't accommodate that sometimes then people put flat roofs on their buildings in order to get that second story or the the size unit that they're looking for. Um, so generally an allowance like this would allow for that roof form and that neighborhood character to continue with what normal single family residences look like there.

25:47 – 26:320

Okay. Thank you. And can you remind me um what the restrictions are on ADA use? I know we're not changing that, but restrictions on ADUs in high fire risk uh areas of high and very very high fire severity zones. Sure. So, um, the state has portions of state law that says as long as an ADU is constructed to current, um, highf fire building code standards, um, then they are allowed in those higher fire zones. We do have some restrictions in our code for areas that do not meet, uh, secondary egress standards. Um, and we do limit those to just junior ADUs, and we don't allow detached or separated ADUs in those areas.

26:290

Thank you. That's it for me. Okay. Thank you. Uh, Mayor Panderas.

26:35 – 27:230

Thank you. And actually, I'm gonna go ahead just follow up on the on the fire issue or the setbacks being to be allowed down to four feet I see is an issue with the building code because anything less than 5t requires 1 hour construction and it limits the amount of openings and the size of the openings and whatnot. And I'm wondering how that it would seem to me that you can just simply say, "No, you can't do it." But if you had a an ADU that you're building that happens to be oriented in such a way that say the bedroom is on the property line side, the only window that you could put into it because of the orientation of the building is on that side, but because you're four feet, you can't have a window, therefore no egress. That becomes a problem. Can you just simply deny the ADU or or the plan?

27:24 – 28:090

You in the end, you've got to have your egress, right, for a bedroom. So essentially, we wouldn't deny it, but we'd require that five foot setback if there's going to be openings or we'd require that opening to be fire rated, which you can do as well. So there are options there, but certainly yes, that 4 foot is going to limit your openings and the design of that if you go to that 4 foot. But again, a 4 foot's only an option and oftentimes what we see is just a corner of a building up against a setback or a portion and it may not affect those openings. So there's all kinds of different parameters, but certainly a good point. Okay. I just just want to make I mean I'm sure that that's been being looked into. Um on the the height measuring u are we picking one or the other on this? Is that what I'm understanding?

28:07 – 28:400

Yes, you are picking one or the other or coming up with any other alternative. Our recommendation would be the one that was um on the previous slide and in your staff report to keep our methodology for measuring height the same and just adding a an additional five feet for those sloped parcels. So which would be option B. Okay. So in this so this is wait option A adding five feet. Okay. Option A is measured from the UPS slope. So that that's what's currently we do or

28:36 – 29:080

currently we measure from the um from the median uh lo the average median average slope location. Um and so this isn't changing any of that methodology. It's just adding an additional 5T to account for the additional elevation needed to accommodate the slope. Okay. So, we're not measuring from the UPS slope at all. That that doesn't that's not used. Correct. That was mentioned by the planning commission, but we would recommend the other option.

29:07 – 29:500

Okay. And the reason I just want to clarify that is because I had a project where the the house that was being the way because of the lot, it extended out over a slope. It was much probably much steeper than 30% even. But because that made the average I mean it made the house had to be really really low. The neighbor's house because the slope changed just you know 100 feet over was 20 feet higher just because of where the average was on the neighbor's lot. So is there a way that it could be an option for even the builder or the owner say well I want to measure from one I want the height to be measured from one way this way versus the other way. Is that a possibility?

29:50 – 30:080

The recommendation would be to stay consistent in the code and not choose. I think if there was a choice and you wanted to be as flexible as possible, you would choose option A. Um, and nobody would need to choose the other option at that point.

30:06 – 30:570

Okay. All right. I mean, I I'm okay with the ex with the height extension, I guess, or option A. Okay. I just want to get clarified because I just know I've come across that it's probably unusual but it can really mess up a project if someone is building a house or even an ADU. Um lastly on the um the eight units per the eight ADUs per or one unit per one 80 unit per um unit um up to eight maximum. Now, I'm sure it would make a place very unrenable if they used up the entire parking lot to put an ADU to match every unit that was built. But that's something that somebody could do, right? And then essentially just tell everybody you got to park on the street.

30:58 – 31:580

In short, yes. However, the code, the state code's written sort of odd. It basically says you don't have to provide replacement parking for the parking taken away but then again you still have to provide some parking for the ADU and what it does is say hey you can build an ADU over parking you can do certain things it makes it more flexible but you can't take away all of the parking and not provide anything so there's still some parking requirement there uh so there is limitations the biggest thing with the 88U thing that concerns us uh since we're on that topic is the fact that if I've got density for 16 units and I've got eight units already built, I'm going to choose to build eight ADUs instead of building eight multifamily units because my ADUs are essentially going to be exempt from development impact fees and they're going to have more flexible construction standards and parking standards.

31:56 – 32:230

But there isn't anything that we can do about that because that's statemandated, right? Correct. Okay. So basically, I'm just making a comment and there's nothing we can do about it. Yes. Yes. Okay. All right. All right. That's that's all I have. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Um I have several just quick questions. What is an urban dwelling unit? I I gather it's not impacted by this what we're discussing, but it is mentioned in the uh staff report.

32:21 – 32:580

So our urban dwelling unit is a phrase we use to distinguish the SB9 units. The um SB9 that came out. It's been overwritten by another Senate bill since then, so we don't like using SB9 because that fades um away. Um but an urban dwelling unit and urban lot splits are those regulated by the state's original SB9. So not directly related to not directly related. They are additional units allowed on single family properties, but not with the same uh concessions that accessory dwelling units have.

32:55 – 33:380

Got it. Regarding the 4 foot setback, um that is not affected by size of the lot. So somebody could have a a oneacre lot and decide to stick an ADU four feet from the neighbor's property line and there's nothing we can do about that. Okay. And um Got it. In regards to this this height issue, is this how does this compare with the height limitations for the a primary house being built on a slope lot? Sure. So this still remains lower than a primary residence which is 30 feet in our single family zones. Um so this still is is below that to make it a a secondary looking unit.

33:35 – 33:520

So the idea being that an ADU would has a lower height limitation so it's not as you know pronounced or obtrusive to the neighbors. Is that the premise? Yes.

33:47 – 34:270

Okay. Got it. Um, and okay, hold on here. And so in regards to um I'm thinking about out in out on the the west side when you have large acreage lots, you can do ADUs there if you have there's a some criteria in here, but but again you in that you cannot, you know, add a setback or or anything else. All of these other things um apply as well, even parking limitations and things.

34:24 – 35:240

Yes, we can't um can't modify the setback. We can't require additional parking spaces. On most of our larger lots, people don't build at at four feet. We've we've had a couple on two acre lots um just based on buildable area, but generally they meet or exceed setbacks. Well, I'm thinking of heavily sloped things like if you go along Los Altos and San Marcos where there's no place you they may have five acres but there's no place to park because it drops off the road very rapidly. Um and so in terms of particularly in this issue of so if somebody has an 8-unit um apartment complex, they can now build eight ADUs on that property if it fits. And the same thing with somebody on a small lot. uh you know in order to build an ADU it still has to physically fit there. Is there a um and I know that I think it's under 750 square feet. There's no development impact fees for these. Over that there is. Right.

35:22 – 36:020

Correct. They're proportional to the size of the primary unit. So they're reduced not eliminated. But I mean up to 750 there's no there's no development impact fees. And so, but in terms of people squeezing um squeezing in, you know, as many ADUs as possible, is there a minimum size? I mean, can somebody make a 200 unit 200 square foot ADU or There's a there's a minimum efficiency dwelling unit size in the building code that I think is around 240 to 270 square feet. Okay. So, I say if somebody was to try to do this on multif family property, they might do it with some very like efficient studio type of things.

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They could. Yes. And then also we say that a a detach ADU, this is on page 24 of the agenda packet, a detached edu shall be shall be required to be equipped with fire sprinklers unless the primary dwelling unit is not required. Um, but I thought you uh mentioned that we couldn't require uh sprinklers in ADUs anymore.

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We can't. So that's that state law section is written very interestingly and we we had some questions about it when ADU law first came out. It's been made very clear in their interpretations in their handbook that if the primary unit does not currently have sprinklers then we cannot require sprinklers for the ADU. But but we're saying in this text that we do require it otherwise if the primary No, we're changing the text to clarify that building an ADU. We're not going to force the primary unit to put sprinklers in. But we can require it in the ADU itself. Only if the primary unit currently has sprinklers.

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Yes. Okay. All right. Thank you. Um Okay. Go ahead. You have a follow-up question. Yeah. Actually, thank you, Mayor. Um, it occurred to me when we're talking about all these ADUs that could potentially be built. Do does if some again if somebody has an 8-unit apartment house they're allowed if they can fit eight ADUs, do each one of those ADUs have to be standalone or can they be a cluster of ADUs in one building like an apartment? So, the state handbook has made that clear as well. They do have to be detached from the primary structure, but they can all be clustered together. and and attached to each other.

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Okay. So, it can be one separate building that has eight ADUs within the building footprint. Correct. Oh my goodness. Okay. Thank you. All right. With that, no further questions. We'll go out and see if we have any public comment on this item. If you'd like to speak, please approach the podium.

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Good evening, Council Joe Foslin. I do have some questions. Uh does this require um sewage or can it be done with septic um or not? Um could you also answer the question on if you don't have to do impact fees, do you know if you still have to do school fees? Uh the height that you guys were discussing has now confused me. So, if my original house is 20 ft high, I could build an ADU at 32 feet high or something of that nature or higher than the original house. Um, so those are my regular questions. And then the other one is how many dwelling units can you now technically put on a property? Is it eight or is it still four? Uh, what is it? And the setback at 4T is very interesting. Thank you.

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Anybody else in the public wishing to comment on this item? Okay, we'll bring it back to council and and if you wouldn't mind uh answering uh the questions uh Mr. Rosen raised. I think you may have addressed them. I know they're partially addressed in the staff report, but if you could address those very quickly.

39:19 – 40:240

Yes. Um I'll try and remember them. Hopefully you can help me if I forget. Um in terms of septic and sewer, um those regulations are staying the same. So, we do have restrictions on accessory dwelling units when you are on septic. Um, based on some health and safety code standards and studies that we've done, you need at least a half acre per unit. So, that would include an ADU. So, you'd need at least one acre to do a primary unit and an accessory dwelling unit on septic. Um, in terms of the height, uh, this would be a height allowance. So, if your primary house was only 20t tall or 18 foot tall, you could potentially build an ADU that is taller than your primary unit, but not taller than what the underlying zone would allow for a new primary unit should you choose to build that. Oh, impact fees and school fees. I believe state law addresses school fees and I believe they have some exemptions for school fees as well. exemption in the sense that school fees are still allowed to be charged.

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No, it is a I think I think there's a a square footage limitation where they cannot be charged. I don't know that square footage, but I think it might be 500.

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Gotcha. All right. Thank you. And and Mr. Olin, regarding your question regarding sewers on page 25 of the agenda, um hold on. I think it's 25. Um no, sorry. page 19 of the agenda packet does address that that question. And um in terms of your question of the number of units on a parcel, when we talk about the eight, we're talking about multif family parcels where on multif family parcels, we have to allow an ADU on a 141 basis, you know, of what's already in the complex up to eight. So doesn't mean you can build eight ADUs on your, you know, single family home lot. But to answer how many you can build, I would just get together because it's it it changes all the time it seems with state law. So we hesitate to answer that here. All right. Uh seeing no other member of the public approach and bring it back to council for discussion and a motion. Um I think uh I think the key thing if before you make a motion would be to address uh the the height you would recommend including in your in your motion and then if necessary we'll have a discussion regarding height. I'm comfortable with the staff uh recommendation on, you know, staff interpretation of the planning commission's recommendation with regard to allowing an extra 5T in height on slopes uh exceeding 20%.

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20% or more. Anybody have any objection to that approach? Okay. Seeing none, then would you like to make a motion? Just do we have any other discussion we need to have? No. I'll move approval of uh the of the item as recommended by staff with the inclusion of the language now shown on the screen or or that was previously shown on the screen u with regard to an additional 5t in height for slopes greater than or equal to 20%. I'll second. Okay, any discussion? Seeing none, we have a motion by council member Funk, second by Mayor Proanderas. Roll call, please. Council member Funk, yes. Council member Newsome, yes. Mayor Promanderas,

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yes. Mayor Burbo, yes. M motion passes 40 with council member Peak absent. All right. Thank you. Now we will move on to item G2, which is the uh 4543 Year Avenue nuisance abatement cost recovery hearing called out of place. So I believe that our city attorney, Mr. Fleshman, will present this item.

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Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of the council. Before you tonight is a draft resolution that confirms the abatement costs that the city incurred uh in uh the cleanup of the 4543 Yerba Avenue and uh council would be thereby authorizing the placement of a lean and levy on the property taxes for that property. Uh, as council's aware, uh, there was, uh, nuisance abatement procedures that, uh, have been engaged in over the past several months to clean up some of the, uh, outside debris, uh, at the home at 4543 year Avenue with, uh, some findings of public safety and health issues. Um, that cleanup was done towards the end of the last year. Uh, and the amount of the cleanup um, as the mayor correctly pointed out, uh, was fairly nominal. um given the amount of work that was done, I think there were 11 trailers filled with uh debris taken off to the dump by the the workers on that. So, under the the city's nuisance abatement procedures, the city uh is required to conduct a public hearing to allow the property owner or any other interested party to contest the amount of the lean to be placed on the property. Um and uh given the amount in involved, uh the property owner would have that right. So, the recommendation after conducting the public hearing is to adopt the draft resolution confirming the abatement cost and authorizing the placement of a lean in the amount uh set forth in the staff report of uh $7,26960 on the property tax roles. Um and available for any questions if you have any.

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All right. Thank you. Uh does any member of the council have questions for the city attorney? Yeah, I have one and that is regarding the amount the lean being placed on the property goes on their tax rules is that that's not something they have to pay immediately or or what happens? I mean, ultimately we when the property is sold, we assume they would get it, but what's the steps there in terms of whether or not it's paid immediately or not?

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So, there's two potential avenues. Uh well, three, I guess. Um the property owner could just pay them um as they come due. Um they could go to default uh and after I believe it's five years, the property could be sold by the county for unpaid property taxes, of which this would be one. uh and then uh that would come to the city at that point. Um or if the propertyy's sold uh it constitutes an incumbrance against the title that would have to be resolved through uh close of escrow. Okay. So I mean it is essentially a current bill for the property owner to pay. Correct. Just something that hangs out there. Correct.

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Got it. All right. Thank you. And then my other question that I alluded to, I did drive by the property and did see that it looked like some things were starting to accumulate in front of the garage. driveway. Not a lot, but clearly not what the after pictures showed here after cleanup and and obviously, you know, situation like this, habits are hard to break. What though happens? I mean, do if there's a reoccurrence or begins to be a reoccurrence, do we have to wait and do the neighbors have to wait, you know, for it to get completely out of control before any action is taken or can there be some sort of intervention sooner in terms of code enforcement? Well, there's certainly the code enforcement option if there are violations of the city's code. The the reason we went through the nuisance baitment procedures the way we did is there was a compelling uh impact to life, safety, and health uh from the amount of debris that was there. Um if it's uh simply clutter and there's no immediate public safety hazard, um then it becomes a code enforcement issue. We can go in and uh do citations and so on. um if there's a violation of the code. In extreme cases, as um you're aware, there's also the potential for the appointment of a receiver. Um that would have to we would have to convince a court that there are no other possible ways or no other practical ways to abate the con uh the concerns that the city has with the property. Um I think in this particular case, a receiverhip might be a step too far. Uh but if it gets to that point, that's certainly one of the tools that the city has.

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Thank you. Yes. at this point is just clutter. You know, it's not a health safety issue, but it is a a bad sign, if you will. So, okay, with that, I want to open this up um open this up to the public for any comment. Anybody wishing to speak on this item, please approach the podium. Okay, seeing no one approach, we will return it to city council for a motion or discussion. I would express appreciation to the city attorney and to all the staff and their code enforcement officer for hanging in there with this and and resolving a complicated and and difficult issue um with as much respect as possible for all concerned and I would move staff's recommendation that the council adopt draft resolution concerning abatement costs and authorizing the placement of a lean and levy of a special assessment to recover costs. I'll second.

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Okay, we have a motion by Council Member Funk, a second by Mayor Prom Dereas. Roll call, please. Council member Funk, yes. Council member Newsome, yes. Mayor Prom Dereas, yes. Mayor Bervo, yes. Motion passes 40 with uh Council Member Peak absent. Okay. All right. With that, we will proceed to item H1, a management report regarding approval of the fiscal year 2025 annual road report. I believe that will be I was going to say Mr. bar, but I see Mr. Betts taking his seat over there. So, we'll turn it over to public works. Actually, uh, deputy director of administrative services, Cindy Chavez, is going to start. Cindy's here. Okay.

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Hello. Thank you, Mayor and members of the council. So, this evening, we are pleased to present the fiscal year 2025 annual road report uh for measure F14. So here is a brief overview of U. Measure F14. In July 2014, council adopted ordinance 581, which establishes the annual reporting requirements. As part of these requirements, the annual road report is prepared and presented to the citizens sales tax sales tax oversight committee or sea. This report um includes financial statements along with detailed revenue and um expenditure information. The SETO did convene on December 10th, 2025 to review the annual road report and approve it coming to council. So retailers began collecting the half percent additional sales tax on April 1st, 2015. The measure F14 sales tax has a 2year life 12year life and will sunset on March 31st, 2027. Fortunately for the city, measure L24 passed on in November of 2024 by 70% of the voting public and will continue after the F4 or will start after the F14 um expires. Uh total sales tax revenue for the period of July 2024 to June 2025 was a little under uh 3.3 million. Um interest income was 104 uh,282. Uh 54,358 of it was income earned and then the rest of that the 48 the $49,000 was uh an accounting adjustment uh to a fair market value.

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In fiscal year 2025, the city invested just over five and a half million dollars across five separate um projects, each currently at a different stage of development. So the 2024 pavement rehabilitation project was was the one completed in fiscal year 2025. And as of June 30th um 2025, the balance was approximately um $1.2 million. Um and then that concludes my part of the presentation. I will now turn it over to Mr. Dar.

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Thank you, Miss Chavez. Um so the other part of this is we we um we have a community roads brochure that we hand out. Um the the main report is got a lot of detail and one of the things we did from the first year we had this measure is uh prepare a brochure that's mailed to all the residents that kind of summarizes it. But this is our kind of a summary of what this measure has done for the city. It's pretty impressive. There's been over 50 centerline miles of road that have been paved. This represents 39% of all city maintained roads. We have 150 miles of city maintained roads. Uh 21 over almost 21.5 million dollars spent. And these are neighborhood road repairs. These aren't the El Camino real. These are the collector and local roads that um you know really didn't have a lot of um attention spent on them or money available to fix them prior to this measure. Uh roads are are considered excellent and good that are considered with PCI excellent and good have increased by 15%. And more than 80 neighborhood road segments have been repaired. This uh map is in the brochure and the brochure is included in your staff report. It's as an attachment. You can see um it might be hard to see if uh folks out in the audience, but uh the road network is um you know the the gray lines there, but the uh the red roads are the roads that are planned for this upcoming construction season. The green roads are the roads that have been repaired uh over the last 10 years of

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this measure. So you can see they're all over town. And some of these roads are actually being um now that we repaired some of the first years are actually going to get some surface treatments done just to keep them in good shape. So it's kind of nice to see this coming around again. Then the blue roads are other uh 2026 Nana 14 road projects that are going to be pursued primarily uh the traffic way uh project there from El Camino Riale up through that industrial area. This is a brochure uh one side of it. This will be a a I guess a trifold if you will brochure and it has that map and then also kind of a summary on the bottom what to expect in 2026. And then on the inside as well it it has a little background of the F-14 which we've include included similarly in the past. It also has, you know, kind of that summary that I just mentioned and um kind of the financial statement in a snapshot. Then just some before, during and after photos of uh that's actually Los Road, which we did this summer. So with that, um we can take any questions that you might have.

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Okay. Thank you. We'll start on my left with Mayor Pertanderas. Any questions?

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I don't have any questions. Great work though, by the way. I think our residents should be happy, especially if they see this map and the number of roads it's been taken care of. Um, the percentage wise of all the roads and the amount of money that's being put into this, I think is great. Um, and thankfully that we did get the additional with the L4 L 24 continuation. So, thank you for all your hard work on it. Okay. Um, I'm going to ask a couple questions just before I pass it down. Um, the way on you just mentioned that we're We're doing some resurfacing on things that had been previous projects. And I'm struck by Monterey Road. It doesn't seem like it's been very many years since we redid a huge chunk of Monterey Road, but I see we're doing resurfacing here uh from Graves Creek to San um am I correct? It just hasn't it we did a pretty thorough project on that not too long ago.

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We did. And this um this would be um let me see Monterey Court. We're actually doing Monterey Court which is um you can see there on the what to expect in 2026 on the kind of lower right hand panel of that re it says Monterey Road from Graves Creek all the way to Sanoma. Oh, gotcha. Yeah. So that that section we had done before and uh you know it's a surface treatment. So quite frequently with pavement management programs after you do a major re rehabilitation project or reconstruction um doing a surface treatment usually pops up in the seven to 10 year range. Okay.

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So it's kind of due and we want to keep that road in good repair. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Yes. I guess that makes sense when you you need to do a at least one one treatment in not too many years after it's redone. Okay. Yeah. Somewhere in the seven to 10 year range. Can can you go to the next page of the of the brochure? Um, sorry.

56:39 – 57:080

Actually, yeah. Of the brochure. There we go. That one. So, in here in the middle of this page, we say 2025 payment rehabilitation 1.59 miles. And the um report also notes that we're doing pavement resurfacing for 3.22 miles. And I'm wondering why we don't include that there because if I'm member of the public and I look at this and I see 1.59 miles that's going to take about a hundred years to

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right to treat everything versus when you add the stuff that's you know the other projects you go okay now now we're down to you know more of a 30-year time frame which you know that's how long a road's going to last. You know when you get on a 30-year path you can see your way to the end. won't be when we're here, but you can see your way to we're gonna, you know, we're going to be on top of this road thing. So, I'm wondering on this brochure why we don't also include reference to the uh resurface mileage as well, so that the public can see the total mileage that is being worked on in a year.

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Right. And um this past year we actually we had a 2025 resurfacing project and resurfacing is like those surface treatment projects. We actually um ended up delaying that until this summer because we didn't have a lot this upcoming summer. We have a a a big um a large project coming with a lot of surface treatment. So, we figured, hey, we can probably hold off on these roads for a year, get some economy of scale to include in that big project, and that'll bring all the square foot costs down. Okay. Quite a bit.

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So, what's listed in the report is the 2025 pavement resurfacing project didn't occur yet. Correct. Appropriate to include it in this report here. That's correct. Okay. All right. Well, thank you for that that answer that. Okay. Um, Council Member Vunk, any questions? I would add my plaudits uh to all the staff financial and public works for this excellent uh excellent work and excellent summary. Uh did the citizens uh tax oversight committee for did they formally approve this uh project and did they have any questions or concerns?

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Uh they they did they recommended um that city council approve this report. Um, I don't recall any big items. I'm looking at Mr. Betts.

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Uh, the, uh, great question, Council Member Funk. Uh, the Sea Stock members overwhelmingly approved the report. um they made a couple comments that really struck staff um in a positive way and they said that you know since this measure was passed in 2014 today it's really hard not to drive on a road that has been in some way shape or form improved resealed rehabilitated since it was passed in 2014 and they borrowed one of your uh infamous lines of promises made promises kept. So out of those nine members who resonate all across the community, they really are seeing it from their neighbors, their friends, their family how important it uh this measure is and it's and it's really making a positive impact for the community and they were really thankful for being on the committee.

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Great. And I would express my apprec appreciation to all those members for that service. It's an important element of accountability for this that that folks are not just trusting the five of us up here, but also have um other folks in the community who are taking a close look at this particular item and making sure we keep faith with the promises made to voters. Thank you, Council Member Nome.

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I always like the handy brochure to really see what we're accomplishing. So, thank you for your hard work. Uh yes and I and I think uh that promises made, promises kept is what and and not you know if you drive home wherever you live in the city you're you're driving across some roads that have been improved or totally repaired with this measure uh the funding from this measure and I think that showed in the public's confidence by giving us a 70% vote to continue this practice uh you know and continue to improve roads. So, I think if we didn't have the success you've already demonstrated, we would not have seen that result. Okay, we're going to turn over and see if we have any public comment on this item. If anybody would like to speak on this item, please approach the podium. Good evening, council and staff. Once again, Jeff Olin. A couple things. Um, yes, promises made, promises kept. It's a beautiful thing. These are neighborhood roads. They do increase our property values. So, if you're living there trying to sell, good for you. If you're trying to buy, sorry. Um, by having nice roads, it shows that we care about our city and that's a very positive thing. And the chamber and our city when we did this was a very smart move. And we have managed our roads great. I'm happy to hear that we're going to uh do some servicing to extend life on all these expensive roads. That's always a very good thing. and more so on that that you're waiting to your larger project so it will be cheaper to do these surface streets because the equipment and the labor will already be here. That is a really good move on public works. Um on the expense sheet, I think it's uh warranted to note that the revenue coming in is less than what um the expenditure is, but that's because you start a project and don't

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necessarily finish it in the same fiscal year. So when you're spending approximately $4.5 million or $5 million um and you're only taking in three and a half, it's actually a carryover from the other year. So, we're not um outspending our dollars and that's uh a very good thing to note. Thank you.

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Any other member of the public wishing to speak? Seeing none, we'll bring it back to council. And um I would comment if people read the report, not just the brochure, but the actual staff report, which breaks down the costs for all these different individual projects. You can see that road maintenance is an expensive thing. And some of these individual roads, if you happen to live on one of them, we might have spent a half million dollars, a million dollars on your road. And um it shows, you know, a it's expensive, but b we're putting the money where citizens get to use it. And they in a sense, I mean, I my road was paved and I looked at that number and thought, "Wow, that's that's quite a bit of money being spended on our road per household that's on this road." And so, um, I hope everybody is, you know, grateful when their road is done. So, with that, I'll bring it back to council for a motion. There are two items in in the recommendation. One to approve the, uh, the actual report and the second to approve the distribution of the community road report.

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I will uh move approval as recommended by staff. I'll second. Okay. We have a motion by Council Member Funk and a second by Council Member Nome. Roll call, please. Council member Funk, yes. Council member Nuome, yes. Mayor Pro Timas, yes. Mayor Bravo, yes. Motion passes 40 with Council Member Peak absent. Okay, with that, we will move on to item H2, uh, which is a discussion or presentation rather on the slowcog uh, draft expenditure plan for a potential transportation sales tax measure. And looks like on this one, I'm gonna get it right, but maybe I'm not. Says that it's going to be presented by Mr. Dar or Mr. Betts. I see someone else.

1:04:35 – 1:06:320

Why don't I start on this one? Mr. Betts is available as well. Um, so Slowcog uh for those that are unaware of Slowcog, there are actual air metropolitan planning organization. Uh, so any major urban area in the United States has one of these. They're actually uh they do transportation planning and funding both for state and federal for our our county countywide. Um they also provide funding for public transit services, highway and roadway improvements. They also prepare um they've gotten involved in the housing needs allocation um arena numbers and sustainable communities and strategies. They also uh part of our the funding uh for instance we received grants uh totaling $2.55 million towards our downtown um El Camino project last year and that was a gamecher for us to be able to get that one across the finish line. Uh Slokco is uh currently evaluating a potential sales tax measure. This would be a half a cent countywide sales tax measure for transportation um needs. This would be on the November 2026 ballot if they everything went um ahead with this. They were uh considering the sales tax measure last year and I I recall they came to one of the meetings and um you know other cities were were looking at doing other local sales tax measure and they decided to hold off. This was also uh similar in nature to the one they pursued in 2020 or 2016 a measure J16 which actually failed uh just by around 450 votes and

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that's a twothirds measure that would be needed. They have drafted um a transportation expenditure plan for review and comment and with at this time I'd like to introduce Annie Bowski. Annie is with Slowcog and she's gonna u provide a presentation to uh go through this.

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Good evening council and thank you for the opportunity to present this evening. My name is Annie Bowski and I am here to present a draft expenditure plan on behalf of Slowco and basically what this is is it's it accompanies a potential transportation dedicated transportation tax measure for slow county. So, what we are proposing is a half cent for every dollar transportation tax to be voted on by voters in November 2026 to fix, repair, and update our transportation needs. And Nick gave a great introduction, but just a little bit additional background on SlowCog for those who are not familiar with the agency. Slowcog is the regional transportation planning agency for Slow County. So in short, slow connects communities by working with local jurisdictions to allocate state and federal funding for transportation mainly generated by the gas tax. And at the re as a regional transportation agency, SLICOG is comprised of the seven cities um along with the county unincorporated areas. And we actually have the largest governing body in all of Slow County. So, we have a representative from each of the seven cities along with the five county supervisors, including Council Member Nuome and Supervisor Moreno. And of course, it's no secret that the counties It's no secret that our county's transportation needs are growing while our funding is continuing to dwindle. We can't we can't discuss excuse me. We can discuss what we don't have, but we can also talk about what we could fund. There are many regional interchanges in North County 101 that could could definitely use our attention, but it's also the smallcale

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community projects such as local road repairs, safe routes to school, public transit, and more that could also be funded. Slowcog was proud to partner with the Tascadero on the El Camino Royale safety and parking enhancement project. And with locally controlled dedicated sales tax for transportation, projects like these can move faster and save both time and money. And looking at kind of our or our overall um STIP or the state transportation improvement program over the past eight years, we've had continued reduced funding and so have our neighboring counties. But the difference between ourselves and our neighbors is that they have also a voter approved dedicated transportation tax. So combined, Santa Cruz County, Monterey County, and Santa Barbara brought in over a hundred million dollars just in 20124 alone, where Slowcog brought in zero dollars. And we could have also brought in and instead of that zero with a dedicated transportation tax, we could have brought in approximately $35 million to the region. And this is the slide that we really want to continue to focus on is kind of the heart of what we're trying to say. So, kind of taking a wider scope from just our neighbors, 89% of Californians uh within 25 counties have a dedicated voter approved transportation tax. And especially just looking at our neighbors since 2016, they brought in a lot more than we have. So, St. San Luciso could have approximately bought it brought in about $270 million. But it's not just about the money collected. It's the about the

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money that can be leveraged at the state and federal level, which means we could have brought in an additional um $400 million plus. So getting back to the expenditure plan and why we're all here this evening after extensive countywide outreach which included a community meeting in Atascadero along with presentations at the Atascadero Rotary along with the Atascadero chamber and many more throughout the county. Silkcat has built a new draft plan and developed safeguards based on the feedback we received which which ensures flexibility, guarantees and asurances. So starting off there are four different elements in this plan. The first one is dedicated out of the $35 million dedicates 55% to local road repairs, safety and improvements. And this is population based based on the eight different jurisdictions which means a taskadero would bring in about $2 million per year. This provides more local control and would add money to each jurisdiction's budget. And these non-prescriptive funds give more flexibility to residents, city staff, and council. And beyond the dedicated uh 55% that would go to the eight different jurisdictions about 40% or 40% would then be used for regional projects. This provides more local control, excuse me. And one major change from prior from the prior proposed expenditure plan and provisions is sub regions. So instead of a single regionwide pot of funds, each

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sub region is assured its fair share of these funds. It's regional spending but at a community level. Again, this part is based upon population. There's 35% of people within the north county, which means 35% of the funds would go to fixing the regional needs of North County. And this slide basically gives you a pretty good break breakdown of what each jurisdiction would receive. And in addition to the 95% that would go to jurisdictions and regional projects, we would dedicate an additional 4% to mobility needs of pe of seniors and people with disabilities. as we know this is a growing need within our county. And then additionally, it would just be at most 1% dedicated to administrative costs to reduce such things as annual reports, share transparency, and make sure that we are sharing what we are doing with these funds. And like our neighbors and like our neighbors have done, we would we would seek and win grants to double even triple the collected tax. And so this slide really looks at kind of the local level of what a task could do. So of course we looked at what the regional needs would be. So that includes interchange improvements such as Del Rio, uh, traffic way, but also we recently went on a, uh, safety walk, I think it was in September with my colleague who's here, John Denunio, and we observed the high school getting out and that would be a great opportunity for a safe routes to school project to use with these funds. Additional, there are safety improvements such as flashing

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beacons and I'm sure you guys can all name a bunch of things in your head as well. So finally looking at what is additionally in this um in this expenditure plan and the one thing I always want to iterate to people is safeguards safeguards safeguards. So after extensive discussion with city staff, thank you for being so helpful with uh sharing all your feedback. We've uh made a few improvements and updates to this plan and we're also here tonight to continue to get updates. But just a few of those include local expenditure reports. So our goal is to make reporting as simple as possible and slow will create an annual report based on the input we received from local jurisdictions on how they have used the funds. We want to show we we can deliver what was promised while making reporting streamlined similar to SP1 reporting or even the local measure reporting that also needs needs to be done. We're not trying to reinvent the wheel, but we want to show what good things we've done if this U measure were to pass by the voters. Additionally, the capital improvement program. This would be no different than what the jurisdictions already created just with more funding to add more and added with added local control. Additionally, the maintenance of efforts uh jurisdictions would demonstrate the mainten jurisdictions must demonstrate that they maintain their current level of the general fund. And this is just a quick look of what an additional half cent for every do um for every dollar sales tax would look like. So of course it would not go to housing, it would not go toward medical and it

1:16:44 – 1:18:000

would not go toward groceries, but of course saying you're buying a t-shirt, um you might pay about five cents extra in tax if the t-shirt costs $30 for all. We're very lucky here with our tourism economy. So people are buying a wine that also costs $30 $40. They're paying potentially five to 10 extra cent and that is actually staying within the county. And as far as residents go, we estimate that a person making about $60,000 per year would pay approximately $2.31 in an additional tax. So of course, what's next? At the February 4th Slowco board meeting, the board will have the opportunity to finalize the expenditure plan and then through February and March, we will return to the cities for them to also finalize the plan. At this time, we're not asking for a yes or no, but just asking how we can make the plan better. And once again, we greatly appreciate the feedback city staff has already provided and we're happy uh to continue to work on this document as it is at the moment a working document. And thank you so much. And at this time, happy to answer any additional questions.

1:17:59 – 1:18:280

All right. And thank you. I'm going to start on my right to council member Nome who is our slow cog. We put her through the ringer today. She had to go endure all of us at a workshop. Um could you speak to what you've learned from the workshop and as you're presenting to us um some feedback from the um workshop that was open to public slow um as well as other organizations. Ryan Butts was there too.

1:18:26 – 1:20:260

Definitely. Yes. Thank you so much for joining us today. So, Slowco, just for some background, had a um it was uh labeled as a special workshop, a officially kind of an official unofficial board meeting that was posted and of course open to the public. Um public was invited along with all our committee members as well. And we had about 40 people there and we did three different sessions in we kind of refer to it as slowcog speed dating. Probably could use a little bit more work on the title, but that's kind of the best way to describe it. So, we had this opportunity to hear from a few different groups and one of the biggest challenges we've kind of had over time is how to approach what if we should mention projects or not mention projects. So, that was kind of some of the feedback we got as well. And we kind of can talk about potential projects we could do, but um it's hard to kind of have a mainline of exact projects. So, that was kind some of the feedback we got today. And one of the thing that is separate from or kind of within the eight jurisdictions there's um approximately there's the unincorporated area that is included for that. And one of the discussions was also um how to break down the approximate $8 million in funding out of the $35 million per year that would be given. Should it be one pot for the unincorporated areas or should we break that down? And some additional thoughts were kind of how to market the project. So one of the biggest things that came out of it and this is what we've seen consistently through our outreach is the idea that we should be leveraging funds and that's what is kind of even for people obviously a new tax isn't the most glamorous thing that people want to have in their life but unfortunately with it is one of the only ways we can leverage funds at the state and local level. So that was kind of the other thing that was identified during the

1:20:23 – 1:21:060

workshop as well. Thank you. It was kind of nice to be on there to have an understanding of um how long it's been since they've had a workshop as slowgo as a board to have the um understanding of how the projects in most projects are taking somewhere from what 10 to 16 years and trying to get projects done on a more timely basis and making sure every jurisdiction and sub region has ideal projects that fit any potential grants coming forward. So, we appreciate your staff being able to um work through some of our ideas as we try to keep control on not only the regional but also on the local aspect of how it impacts our communities.

1:21:05 – 1:21:160

Definitely. And thank you for that feedback and we're happy to have more. It was um pretty fun time. So, all right. Thank you, Council Member Funk.

1:21:13 – 1:21:510

Uh yes. Uh could you go back to that uh slide um with that shows the uh funding uh the potential funding keep going um keep going um the uh showing the state pot that yes this okay isn't there this shows that that what we would get the opportunity to get a particular state pot of funds matching but isn't there a different pot of funds from which we do draw some funds.

1:21:46 – 1:22:420

So we we as a county and as Slowcog we receive and distribute formula funds. So that's something we do get every single year and you guys do get that as well as a city but was it specifically what grants we go after? Is that what you're referring to? Because this is kind of more based on the idea of applying and getting grants. So, it's not necessarily routine maintenance, but such projects as safe routes to school can get up to a 5 to one grant or something such as a safety issue on the highway can also uh be a little bit more competitive. But the idea kind of, and please excuse me if I'm explaining this wrong, but the idea of this is that we at this point don't really have a lot of additional money to leverage at the state and federal level, which is kind of why we aren't getting the grants that other counties are getting.

1:22:39 – 1:23:090

Okay. um check my understanding, but I believe I understood that there was a that there's a one path of funding that's available to uh counties that are not considered self-help counties like ours where we don't have this kind of of tax and that we would then shift over to a larger pot of money u available to us that would that is for these uh self-help counties. is that

1:23:07 – 1:23:340

as of my understanding there's no potential funding um for counties that aren't self-help. It's we are able to compete with grants at some level but it's just they expect us to put more money up um for grants to get more money back to the region. So unfortunately we are kind of losing out with um the inability to uh get to put up larger funds to get more grants.

1:23:33 – 1:24:080

Council member, your understanding is largely correct. The state of California over the last several years has shifted limited transportation funds towards counties who are self-help counties who have money to match. And so that's what you're seeing there is that we've lost out on roughly $430 million while Santa Barbara's gotten 759 million in transportation funding that we wouldn't be able to access because we're not a self-help county. And so whether it's good policy or bad policy is up to the council to decide. The state has definitely pushed down uh funding onto counties to help match and pay for their own transportation needs.

1:24:06 – 1:24:460

We we would continue to get the money that or we I should say slowco and the whole county would continue to get the money that it currently gets. But the premise being that these other counties also because they have matching funds through their their halfsent sales tax, they're achieving a hell of a lot more grants. We're getting basically none because we don't have the matching money to put up. Right. we get the gas tax minimum and the state transportation assistance fund minimum and right but to go to council member fun original question we wouldn't stop getting the current pot of money that slow gets we would just be gaining access to grants that require matching funds

1:24:44 – 1:25:380

exactly and if you could please go back one more slide if you wouldn't mind so this is this is funding we get from this um the ESTIP or the state transportation improvement project so if you look since 2016 these funds predominantly from SP1 which is the gas tax. People are using less and less gas tax or less and less gas of course. So more and more less and less money is being distributed to counties within California. So that's where we are losing out compared to other counties and other counties have shifted um and kind of gotten ahead with their uh dedicated transportation tax. But this is uh meant to represent the funding we receive which is of course dwindled um quite a bit over the years which is why we're kind of in unfortunately this position that we are with not having the funding that we need to get more projects done.

1:25:36 – 1:27:350

Okay. Thank you. Uh I do have um some additional uh questions and varying levels of uh importance. Um, as you've seen with, you know, earlier in this meeting, we have a very already wellestablished process with a local uh jurisdictional citizens committee that re that ensures maintenance of effort on transportation funding to keep our faith with our voters. Uh, would it be possible to simply delegate that process uh rather than u to the existing commissions and jurisdictions that have them? um rather than having to create a whole countywide um commission that frankly would have less credibility in our jurisdiction than the local one. So basically um looking at the different pots of funding kind of there's the 55% um which a task would get approximately $2 million per year as long as that is fully spent on transportation. We basically just need to show that Slowhog does not have control over that, but we just want to show and there are some of course um other elements to that but just want to show basically that um the city would be spending that money correctly which is fully under the city's control. And then additionally there's the regional pot of money, the 40% um which a portion of that would of course go to North County and it that would be overseen by the slow board. So we do have we would have a citizens committee but that would just be to make sure people are spending the or cities are spending the right amount of money say maybe on road repairs or potentially putting it up for grants so on and so forth. So if the citizens committee wouldn't be making specific decisions, it would be the slowquog board every couple years based on um project needs and kind of the regional funding. And then with the money that goes strictly

1:27:33 – 1:28:400

to the cities, that would be totally the city's decision as long as they weren't using the money say, and this is obviously very hypothetical, but for pickall courts or something along those lines. So it would not be controlled by the SLOG um cit the SLOG citizens committee. It would be controlled either locally at the jurisdictional level or potentially by the SLCOG board. Yeah. Okay. I appreciate you're addressing the question of who gets to decide. That was in another question of clarity that I had. But what I was talking about about the maintenance of effort thing is specifically the reporting requirements. We took a lot of care in our ordinance to make to look at the efficiency of the process because it was important to our taxpayers. We want to spend this money on roads, not accountants. And so I'm looking for where there are there are you willing to look at opportunities to build on the work we've already done and not create that infrastructure at the countywide level where that infrastructure exists.

1:28:38 – 1:30:360

Yeah, definitely. And our goal is to basically roll in to what's already being done. So it would be a tiny bit of additional reporting, but um we would want to align it similar to SB1 or what you are already doing for your measure funds. So we would expect some basic reporting, but uh we would try to make it as efficient as possible. And with the feedback from city staff, we've already kind of made those edits and are making those edits at this time in uh the expenditure plan. If I may, council member, I appreciate you bringing that up. Uh, we we still have some questions, but to Slog's credit, they have moved towards efficiency and towards not duplicating effort. I think your suggestion though of if a community has a sales tax for transportation and an oversight committee over that tax, there'd be a huge efficiency in that group self-certifying on the 55%. I am going to make that recommendation to slowcog staff. I think we continue to have some concern about some of the review of prospective projects that that's your job as the city council to budget what projects are important. Um review and audit committees are looking at rears to make sure the money was spent correctly and so we had some question about that too but they have been uh helpful and listening and there's a few things we still want to continue to do on the prospective making reports more efficient. Um seeing and writing that our formats are enough. I appreciate what she said about the SB1 reporting that's already a lot of work for administrative services. That should be enough. It's a very strict report to the state of California and so parsing some of that information for this. It's what you said. We need more money and time spent on getting roads done than accounting in reports. Um, I'm going to jump in here because I think that uh to be clear though on page 83 of our report and this is part of your plan which looks like it says page four plan requirements for eligible jurisdictions and I think this is largely what council member Frank is alluding to. It lists

1:30:34 – 1:32:340

all of these requirements. Requirements for eligible jurisdictions, mitigation fee program, circulation element, capital improvement program, um you know, pavement management plan. And there it's specifically states a common format approved by the authority, expenditure report, um you know, and time limits on use of net revenues. you know, talking about a time limit when some of these projects are multi multi- multi-year projects from inception to uh approval and then to construction. And so just want to be very clear since this evening, you know, we're you're going to come back and and ask our approval for this plan to then be submitted out to the voters. But so this evening is our chance to comment on the plan. And so I just can't stress enough how important it is to us that these requirements be minimal because as council member Funk stated, we you know the voters, you know, when they're going to approve something, they want to see they just want to be assured that the money is really going to get spent on road projects, you know, and and this is just typical government though that we're, oh, you got to have this report and that report and this element and this program and this plan and it's like for the most part, we already have those. And what really concerns, I think, our staff and us is that somebody's gonna go, "Oh, well, that plan you've done every year, that's not good enough anymore." Now, you know, you've got to add six pages and address these 25 additional questions. That's just a deal killer for us. I mean, this has got to be you're never going to achieve the 1% administrative cost and overhead if you're requiring additional things like that. And I just want to so I want to be really clear that we expect this to be very minimal because we already basically do those things and we can show our citizens and citizens throughout the county that we do but not

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to require additional reports or spec specific formats that would require our staffs to do additional work. Amen.

1:32:40 – 1:34:020

Definitely. And we completely understand that and everything that's um there is one nuance I'll discuss but basically we're looking um say the circulation element um capital improvements program we know these are things the cities already do and that's um basically what we want want you guys to understand is that it's that's that's what you would be giving us is something that you're already doing um with just additional revenue involved. the and just the one nuance is a time limit for use of revenues and we have updated this um in the current document but basically the nuance on that is with the 55% or the $2 million that Tascadero would be receiving annually that's totally yours if you do want to save it um if you do want to compile some funding so you can put it up for a larger grant that is totally something the city can do it's more for the 40% regional projects um we understand that things do come up, but we would we do expect that money to be spent in a reasonable timely manner. So that's kind of the difference between the two. If it is um approved by the so-called board for the 40% um local infrastructure projects, that's something we would expect to be spent within the coming years in a project that's already kind of ready to go. So that's the difference between the two.

1:34:000

Okay. Thank you, Council Member Funks. I'm sorry. Did you have questions?

1:34:03 – 1:35:380

That's okay. Yes. Um, thank you. Uh, to the to the uh end that uh the mayor was just discussing um on the next um one of these pages of the staff report, you have language in there specifying that you're going you're obligating slow staff to be reporting twice a year to every single city council and every single community advisory committee. Did I read that right? And do we really is there any need for that? That's something that's um definitely open for discussion. The reason that's in there is we do pay a lot of uh mine to the CAC's and the unincorporated areas and I personally gone out to quite a bit of um those different groups and their challenge is that they always they never feel seen and they never feel heard. So that's why we're placing that in there. Um, we did get this um, kind of comments and feedback from uh, Mr. Betts this afternoon and he noted that as well and we were even just discussing it. Um, nothing in um, nothing in inc yet, but that is one of the things we looked at. But the reason that that's in there is for more of the CAC's. So, that is a nuance we could discuss and change and um talk about and that would just basically be a um kind of report from staff to the city council uh twice per year, but we understand that you guys only do that annually and it is a bit of a nuance. But for now, the reason that that's in there is kind of for the CAC's at this point.

1:35:36 – 1:36:140

There's a boatload of staff time in that requirement and that's time that's not being spent fixing roads. And so I know I I love the CAC's too, but nobody presents to us twice a year. We don't have our, you know, ongoing issues on the from the staff doesn't present to us twice a year on anything. So um streamline that one. Absolutely. And obviously as mentioned, this is a working document. So uh yeah, thank you for that feedback and we understand the reasoning of why you feel that way. Okay. And and our understanding is that that's the kind of feedback you're asking for today.

1:36:12 – 1:37:020

Exactly. Yeah. our one chance to give some feedback on this thing to make sure it's that if we're if it is going to be done and if it is going to be approved by the voters and then uh that it's done um done properly. Um um I would also comment uh um the population basis is that is is that settled because um that does seem to be a very solid basis upon which to make the distribution. Uh for one thing, population is a number that everybody can understand and that can't really be gained and it's generated by um an you know the federal government rather than than uh by any players here.

1:37:00 – 1:37:430

Yeah. And that's one thing. There's quite a few different options. Um you could go definitely by zip code. Uh you could go by road miles, so on and so forth. And um Slog had multiple meetings with city managers over the past almost year. And that's just something that it you can go any way and someone may not benefit perfectly in any single way. But um that was just what was decided for the easiest way to for voters to understand and additionally just a easy way to divide things and um show that uh you can kind of divide the money in that format. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. Mayor Pandereas, any question?

1:37:41 – 1:38:040

Yeah, just to follow up. you you were talking about the regional corridor improvement pot of money and uh that it could be sort of saved up to use so we can get matching grant funds to be able to do projects if I understand that correctly. So if if you're referring to the 40% Yeah.

1:38:01 – 1:39:320

Yeah. That would be there's quite a different a few different ways to do it. So this would be the funding that's received annually and um the slow cog board would have to you would have to come with a project ready to go say a 101 improvement um and it would be approved by the slow board and then with that um if it was decided you would be able to save up money and then go for grants. Yeah, because the question I have on that was well, first of all, the reasonable timely manner. What's reasonable time? And we've had projects that were much less uh cost than what we're talking about here, but you know, we needed just a little bit more than we'd get a little bit more. And it just we kept chasing our tail with something that could have been funded or should have been funded much sooner. Every year that we we can't do it, it just adds to the expense. But the corridor problems or uh fixes that we have are huge dollar amounts and it's we're not going to be I I don't see how we would do this. I mean what's a timely manner that that's I think that's my concern. uh we we will work to define that a little bit more but um basically the idea would be that these these projects uh would be able to be approved or basically kind of funded and approved in that way but um that is a nuance and we can bring we can discuss that further.

1:39:310

All right. Thank you.

1:39:32 – 1:40:230

Right. Thank you. Um in on uh looks like page five of your plan, it says a performance assessment shall be conducted at least every three years to evaluate the efficiency blah blah blah blah blah by who? Who would who would perform that? Or is this one he's going to pay go out and pay some firm you know a bunch of money to you know look at this stuff every three years. it. We discussed that and it's more making it it would basically be we would be reporting annually. So all that would happen is we would combine those annual reports into a three-year report just to show what we've been doing. And once again that's a step to make things more efficient, but we would um want to report out every three years as well.

1:40:21 – 1:42:190

Okay. Well, that's good because again as council member fun tried to know, you know, we're obviously concerned about our staff time, but we're concerned about your staff time, Slox staff time, too. We want slowco working on plans for projects, not reports, reports, reports. So don't I I think there's a little bit of overkill in here terms of the sensitivity that oh boy, you know, if if we go out for this, the voters are really going to be concerned about accountability. The voters want to see projects, projects, projects, projects, not reports, not not get hung up too much on process. They want to see projects and anything that just takes more staff time to generate more paper is not projects. So, okay. Um, I have no further questions. What I'd like to do is open it up to members of the public to comment on this item. If any member of public would like to speak, please approach the podium. Good evening, council. Jeff Olin once again. Um about 5 years ago I served on a steering committee on slowcog when it started and this exception of adding attacks as in the word steering um I was the only one that voted against it by the way and I see where the progress has come but I have a lot of concerns. I think slowcog in itself does a lot of great things. We got some benefits up here, which is great. But if we needed to do an overpass and based on the money that we get on this pot, you're looking at a 10 to 15year project and having to save money to redo an overpass. And our residents here in Atasadero will not tolerate that. That could be a detriment to some of our tax base. The things that concern me are we pay a gas tax, it goes up every year. uh we see less and less uh back to our county or back to our cities than what we used to get. Um and price of gas is slightly higher. So we should be getting

1:42:17 – 1:44:170

more tax dollars and we don't really get a lot from whatever it is SB1 or whatever that is. Um with more electric vehicles on the V on the streets, we're losing tax revenue there. It's a concern. My biggest concern with Slowco Cog, even though I think this is a vast improvement from where they were a year ago when they approached it, I don't think this is defined well enough for our city, even though this is not a vote tonight and they're going to come back to be a positive thing. How many more staff people are we going to have to hire for slowco? How many more consultants are we going to have to hire? How many more people in Sacramento are we going to have to lobby to get funds? And my understanding on this pot of gold out there is as more people become um I have the phrase wrong, self-help or whatever to get funds, the pot diminishes. Anyways, we're not getting our fair share as it is. And you keep seeing it go down the road, if you will. Uh if you look at some of the things that Calrans's priorities are, and they're supposed to be funding and doing things with our money uh and our roads, they're hiring people left and right to figure out if they can put a bike lane down the center of 101. And no, I'm not exaggerating. They've hired numerous people to figure out where they can put a bike lane. We're not in a spot here in slow county where it's feasible to ride a bike from here in Atasadero to San Losispo and back or an electric bus that can't make it up the hill without charging when it gets back to San Miguel or past the Robels from Aoya Grande. So these are concerns that concern me if we're going to add a tax. And lastly, the uh county of St. Abyispo changed their priorities board of supervisors from funding roads to making it like

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number 10 or 11 on their list. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Good timing. Um I mean it's finished right at three minutes. Excellent. So all right with that comment uh we can bring it back to the council for discussion. Again we are not voting on you know the plan itself. We our purpose was to provide input. So we don't have a motion. I just want to allow each council member if they wish to make any parting comments uh to the slow representatives.

1:44:44 – 1:46:330

I do want to uh again emphasize the importance of efficiency in this process. We're efficiently exceeding um achieving accountability. Uh note from my discussions with CAC's um out and about listening to them, they want to see you fix their roads. They don't necessarily want to see your lovely faces. So just fix the roads. Um you know they that you know that's a a frustration in the rural areas where they feel like they're paying a lot more gas tax um than city folks do uh because they have bigger vehicles. You can't pull a horse trailer with Prius um and uh they they're not they they want to see the results come back to them too in a process that's fair. Um and our folks just want to get our roads fixed. Um, also, um, and I do want to, uh, emphasize, uh, what, uh, Council Member Dar's uh, pointed out, we need the ability to accumulate projects. Big regional projects are going to take time. You know, we're looking at, and I'm assuming that, you know, our our interchanges in Atasadero on the 101 are probably going to wait until the 46 101 interchange has been done. That probably, you know, win out in priority. So, we're gonna gonna have to wait a while and and it takes some time to build that up. Even if it's a shovel ready project, that doesn't mean you're going to get the money from the state or that somebody's not going to find some problem in the uh construction process that snags it up a little bit. So, there needs to be reasonable latitude uh to uh have time to spend those funds so that we can get the big impacts that we do if this is going to proceed. Thank you.

1:46:34 – 1:46:540

No, I don't have it. That's good report though. Thank you. But I think it what mayor I mean uh council member Funk was talking about is is sure we have some serious intersection changes that need to be addressed and and they're super high dollar and it's we're not going to be able to do that in just a couple years. Thank you.

1:46:52 – 1:48:520

Usually I do my committee reports at the end but I think this is a good place to segue into it. Um, it's always interesting to sit as a Slowco board member because you also understand that we as a local, well, we sit as a body for a regional, but we represent our local jurisdictions. And the nice thing that we did have is a slow COG board realized that there was some recommendations that we needed to do. Therefore, there was a workshop called order. In order to do that, it does require us to go back to our local jurisdictions and come back and say what are those projects to make sure they are in the pipeline to streamline and make it more efficient and really bring our concerns to them not just on the sales tax measure but also on the regional transportation. The reports that we do get and the mandates that are done at the both the federal and the state level are somewhat ridiculous in the fact that they're really short term. But we all know that projects are taking 10 years. So we talk about state and federal guidelines are taking four years of reporting. We know a project can take 10. So you're, you know, halfway in it. You're having to re-report. So the work that is being generated, I don't want to say is automatically done at a local level. It's state and federalmandated and all of us set up here with that mass frustration of what it looks like to deal with wildfire mitigation and all of the same bureaucracy. So it was nice as uh a workshop participant also as a board member to really say we are really efficient on our local level. How can you learn from us and how can we learn from you to streamline it? Um and to be that local voice was kind of nice because we are very frugal. we try not to spend as much money um because we don't have it and we know that and so we're really diligent with it. So it's nice to go both sides of that table and really um pitch into those projects and as I look at our funding cycle um slow

1:48:51 – 1:49:440

will be reaching out to our jurisdictions. It will be important to make sure that we know that those items in the pipeline are good to go. like I'm looking at something with uh um a 2028 deadline or 2028 projected time frame with a certain dollar amount of today's value that is going to be totally different down the line. So, because it fits into one mock and one uh shovel ready under 2 million on the current grant cycle on Congressman Panetta's site, what we're doing with the buildout of other um funding sources, how does this play into what do we need done for transportation? So, it was insightful. I think they have a lot of work to do after today's meeting, though. But we do appreciate you listening to everything we had to say. Thank you.

1:49:42 – 1:51:420

Thank you. And yes, I I really appreciate, you know, you taking this feedback. I know you've been accepting feedback uh from staff, city managers and public works directors, etc. And that is important to building a a plan that you know the the cities can support. And overall, um so I hope you know the commentary we provided has been helpful to you. Um overall though, I I like the plan. I very much like the 55% of the funding going directly to the cities based on population. Um, and then 40% going to regional projects is is very good. And it's there I think where we're really going to see the potential for uh matching, you know, that that will enable us to put up matching funds and receive those state and federal grants. And and I think from a peer business proposition standpoint, nobody likes to pay an additional tax. The question is always as a taxpayer, what are you getting out of it? And I think as we saw with our own local measure, the answer is well, you're getting um you know, you're getting roads improved that you can see, you can visibly see and ride over. And with this plan, what I like is that um we just in the 55% are going to essentially see in a task, if this were to pass, um we would see essentially all of what our citizens pay in in sales tax just in the allocation back to the city. And so the rest uh is gravy. So the plan itself uh I am very pleased with the allocations. I think they're they're fair and they're reasonable and they're potentially beneficial to a task. So we'll see you I guess late in February or March that you'll be back to present the the the formal plan here. March. You'll be back here in March to present the formal plan. Uh and we'll actually have a further discussion and and vote at that time. All right. Well, thank you again and thank you everybody. That concludes our discussion on that item. So, we will move on to council

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announcements and committee reports. And I'll start on my left with Mayor Promand Daryus. Uh not much to report other than let's see APCD's meeting next week's meeting this Thursday, but I might not be able to make that meeting. Obviously, a quiet December, so I don't report on that. So, that's all I have. Okay. Council member Funk.

1:52:07 – 1:54:070

Yes. The Tescader Basin Groundwater Sustainability Agency uh met on uh December 17th. Uh it was a routine meeting and we got our consulting work and plan lined up for the coming year um to continue the reporting and moving along in ensuring the sustainability of our basin which is in uh good shape. I did take that occasion in theformational reporting at the end uh to alert them to some of the things we're starting to hear from the reg the water quality control board uh with regard to how they're looking at um at how we manage particularly the salt requirement uh which they you know anyway but that just to give them a heads up that that uh a more regional approach is likely to Um and uh the way that that moves forward is not clear to me. So there we are. Um the Homeless Services Oversight Council Executive Committee met on on the 15th. Um and we um were delegated responsibility to do some allocations for public safe permit supportive housing uh services grants or it's a continuum of care funding, but it's the ongoing pot of money that's used to keep the data reporting and to do the services that keep people housed who have complex needs uh who are disabled or have mental health issues. Tea manages most of that money is and uh PSH there are some issues with regard to very uh large changes in the federal grant requirements um that are being challenged in court because they directly contravene the guidance of Congress. Uh so we're we're just staff is trying to keep that moving along as smoothly as we can and to keep our as

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much funding as we can uh going to that important work that is highly successful um about a 95% um rate of keeping people in that housing once they get in and it's only used for people who have serious needs. And last I would mention that the um that every two years There's a what's called the point in time count of home of unhoused persons and Mayor Borau is nodding because he's been part of that. Um that is going to be occurring on January 27th. Uh so this is the last week if you want to sign up to volunteer. uh if you're a early morning person or can drink a lot of coffee and uh it starts at 5:30 a.m. Um but we do want to both count and interview uh the folks who are unhoused in our community and there will be multiple teams in Tascadero that day. Uh so sign up and volunteer. There's a virtual training on Saturday. Uh you too can be part of this important process. Thank you, Council Member Naen. I

1:55:11 – 1:56:380

already gave my slow cog and RTA. Um, we've had a meeting last week, a meeting today. So, um, I have nothing else to report. Okay. Thank you. And likewise, a slow December. There was no integrated waste management authority meeting, but we we will be meeting tomorrow. And there was no mayor's meeting. We will be meeting in Mororrow Bay on Friday. Um, I did want to make my colleagues aware though, I did receive an email. Um the city selection committee will be meeting on February 25th and I'll mention it now because one of the items to be considered is an appointment to LAFCO the local agency formation commission because council member Gregory from Paso his term expired on December 29th and uh so I believe this is the appointment that belongs to the north county. So, if any of my colleagues are potentially interested um or staff if we could make sure that council member Peak is aware of that opportunity as well um you know please possibly consider doing that. Um not that any of you need an additional committee assignment but I will say LAFCO does not meet all that often. So um it is a so I just want to mention that uh and that meeting again February 25th but there will be an application process that one can look at the LAFCO website for. Okay, that's it. Now, does anybody any individual determinations from Okay, seeing none, I believe we are ajourned. Thank you.

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