City Council - Regular Meeting

Folks, it is 7 PM on Monday, August 28th. This is a study session for the City Council of Waverly, Iowa, and we are called to order.

Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.

Councils, I have a motion to approve the agenda.

Approval of the agenda is presented.

Second. Any discussion? Is the voice for it? All in favor say aye. Aye. Passed unanimously. This is the time for public comments, not on the agenda. Please limit your comments to five minutes unless additional time is granted by the presiding officer. All remarks shall be addressed to the council as a whole and not to any individual member. Does anybody rise for public comments? I see none. Council, do I have a motion to approve the consent calendar?

Move to approve the consent calendar as presented.

Second.

Any discussion?

It's a voice vote. All in favor say aye. Aye. This brings us to our study session tonight in all transparency. The The developer with the proposal tonight is my parent's company. I am not a part of the company and I will be refraining from any comment with that. Connie Tolan, would you like to come up and speak, please?

Good evening. I'm Connie Tolan planning and development specialist, and I'll briefly explain where we are in the process and what is being asked of the council tonight. The city issued the request for proposals for the former Washington Irving school site earlier this summer on June 11th. The goal was to receive development proposals for financially attainable owner-occupied workforce housing that would address community housing needs while providing long-term public benefit. One proposal was received and that was from BNKD Inc. Council has received their proposal along with the additional information and materials submitted by the developer as attachments to tonight's agenda. Tonight, you are being asked to listen to the presentation, ask questions, and seek any additional clarification or information you need to position you to make a decision on the proposed purchase and redevelopment of the property. Following the presentation and discussion, there will be no action taken at tonight's meeting. At the September 14th City Council meeting, Council will be asked to consider their proposal and determine whether to accept it and authorize staff to negotiate a potential purchase and development agreement. So to summarize, tonight is about understanding the proposal and asking the questions you need answered, and September 14th is when you will be asked to make a decision. Okay, so with that, I'll turn it over to BNKD Inc. for their presentation. Thank you.

Good evening, I'm Derek Apple. I am a manager at BNKD Inc., the son of Dennis Aranda. This is our proposal. Ben Kinney proposes to purchase land for 45,000, no tax breaks or funding from any government entity. Project is 100% privately funded and we are requesting a home buyer incentive of 5,000 per home. This will be paid directly to the buyer. Just to incentivize new home buyers in Waverly. Any questions? The purpose of this is to help Waverly meet its housing needs for new homes under $300,000. A recent Broom County report showed big increase in housing prices within the last year. Waverly has a growing population due to bringing in new businesses and is at a time when they need entry-level quality housing. Housing. All units will be owner occupied. Being Katie will not retain any units as rentals. All common areas will be maintained by an HOA.

Derek, can I ask a question about HOAs? So will you guys help that get started for that?

We will set it up and then likely hand it off to, um, the organ, the people officers that they elect and that sort of thing.

Okay. Thanks.

Buildings being constructed is three four-plexes, one duplex. Each unit is a two-story unit, roughly 1,459 square feet each with a one-stall garage. Additional parking, there's room for additional parking on the grounds on one of the streets that is inside the development. There's 15 feet minimum between buildings, and we did this because of the concern for driveways onto the street to keep it less busy.

Can you clarify what you mean by that?

So the site plan is going to come up soon, and there's a street through the development we're proposing that all the driveways will go onto there. So there will only be a driveway onto 6th and 2nd.

Will the driveways be long enough to accommodate a vehicle? So if someone has two vehicles, they'll have a garage, and then they can park one? Yes. Okay.

Derek, will there be enough room for a garbage truck to get in there? Sanitation trucks?

Any other questions at this point? There is the proposed building mock-up with the floor plan.

So, Derek, the picture on the bottom is facing into the inner aspect of the development, right?

Yes, it'll be facing the road we're going to put in the development.

Okay. I wasn't sure what the other side is going to look like, the street-facing side.

It'll look fairly... There's another, I believe, next photo. It'll look like that. So just sort of flat. But then there'll be privacy fences separating each patio.

Oh, okay. So there'll be a patio off the...

There'll be privacy fences parallel to the street or just between the units? Just between the units. Okay.

Okay, so what we're looking at here is the outward facing side.

Yes, so that is the back of the building on the bottom, the front side... is the one that will face the street. The site plan is coming up next, that'll kind of help clarify which way the building's facing.

So that'll be like a sliding door or something going out to the patty.

Yes. Any further questions?

Yeah, can you just clarify, so as we're looking at that south elevation diagram, Can you clarify where the dividing walls are between the units?

So you see that white line between, so there's what looks like two doors next to each other. That white line is pretty much right where the fence is going to be. That's the unit wall.

On the lower diagram?

Yes, on the lower diagram.

Yeah, so as we look at the south elevation diagram.

Yes. So you see there's...

I'm confused by the roof lines as they line up with windows and doors there. Can you clarify for us?

Each upstairs has two windows. Yeah.

So there's an entryway door. So across the top. Yeah, okay.

Do you want me to point at the screen over here? I can do that.

Yeah. So these are two doors. No, I'm looking at the top diagram.

So this is a garage door and then a walk-in door. And then this is roughly the dividing wall between the units. And then garage door, walk-in door, walk-in door, garage door.

So the divisions between the units do not line up with the way the roof lines are. And so the division is roughly two windows on that top story for each unit. Thank you.

Any other questions on this one? This is the proposed site map of it. You see the street, bottom left-hand corner is a building, a fourplex. Then you get a street, On the right side is a fourplex, and above that is a duplex, and then a fourplex at the top.

Is this the final design? Because there was a plan A and plan B.

There's plan A and plan B. The other one is a lot of driveways onto the road, and it was just to, in case we wanted, needed a higher density for demand. But this keeps the driveways off

Okay.

We were just submitting both for consideration. So the other one had the diagonal street. The other had the diagonal street. We had to adjust that because we had too much coverage area for R3. Okay. And so we had to adjust it to this land plan.

The area to the east, will that just be a green space? That will be green space, yes. Will it be stuff for kids, not necessarily?

Playground equipment? Potentially, yes. Potentially.

and the the duplex similar floor plan two stories same floor plan just two units versus four okay and one of the one of the things we talked about when we first started batting around designs for this was whether it was feasible to put any ada compatible housing so a one-story unit with this shape of a lot in this type of project is that feasible Because they're all two-story.

With this current setup, no. We can try to redesign it to where we can get units in there that will be one-story on slab. It's just a little bit different layout.

Do you think it would fit with the setbacks and that sort of thing?

That's where it gets tricky. Like I said, we just have to play around with a couple different ideas because I don't have an exact floor plan in front of me to tell you that we can do this, this, and this versus whatnot. So we can play around with a few ideas. It's just currently in this setup it is difficult to do a decent-sized ADA unit. Mm-hmm.

We've maxed out with this floor, with this site line, we have maxed out the square footage we're allowed to have for an impervious surface.

And what's that mean, Denny?

The roof, the concrete drive, street, in R3 you're allowed 40% of coverage of the lot.

I see.

Thanks. Do you have other Any other features planned for the units that would... I realize two-story eliminates a lot of accessibility issues, but in terms of other things like wider hallways and doorways and zero-entry showers and things like that, is any of that included in your plan?

There is a zero-entry shower in the master, and then there is a... Well, not... Is it called zero-entry at that level? No, it's got four, so I guess it's not zero entry. Stairway up is, I believe, three foot nine wide, which is wider. So I'm not exactly sure what all criteria you're looking for.

But all the bedrooms are on the second floor.

All the bedrooms are on the second floor.

Is there a bathroom?

There's a bathroom downstairs. There's a half bath downstairs. Any other questions on this site plan? This was the one for a higher density where you can get more units in, but this also drops a lot of driveways onto the road and we know that's not a desired feature, but it was just a higher density option in case more housing was needed. Any questions on this one? And that is the concept. So those aren't the exact buildings. AI and I didn't get along that day when I was trying to create this. So this is what spit out, but as the color concept and the overall look that we will be going for.

Do you have one of the other side?

No. it would just be siding all the way down.

So I feel like this is a given, but just to clarify, these are on slabs.

Yeah, all on slab.

So with the single car garage and a single width driveway, one of the things that has been... point of discussion in our conversations has been how do we make sure that we provide enough storage space for not just vehicles but things like garbage cans and toys and all that kind of stuff. Is there storage?

There's a larger storage closet on the second floor and then there's storage underneath the stairs and then the garage is wider than what a usual single stall is. It's 12 foot wide and usually your single stalls are 10? Depends who's building it. Depends who's building it, I guess.

How deep is the garage?

25 feet.

And are there other places to park? So let's say you have guests come over. Will it be street parking or is there any parking?

So the driveways are two parking stalls wide for each unit. And then on the street running east-west is designed for parking on one side. Within the subdivision? Within the subdivision, yes.

Okay.

Is there a way to, going back to the owner-occupied...

We can put it in there, but the Supreme Court? We've heard cases that have come down that it may not hold up in court if someone... tries to challenge it. But it can be put in the covenants, and there's no intention for these to be rentals.

Right. Now that's something that's a big concern. On Ward 3, this is my folks' walk from my house, that it's not someone who goes, buys it, lives in it for a year, sells it to a landlord, and it becomes a rental secondhand.

Yeah, we can put that in the covenants and the HOA, everything. That's not a problem.

And then is that enforceable?

That, I'm not a lawyer for sure.

It is by the HOA? The city doesn't enforce covenants. Correct me if I'm wrong, James. The people who live there in the HOA have to file if there's a lawsuit, etc. It's handled internally through the HOA. That is correct.

James, can you speak to... Is that going to be an issue with any kind of development we put in there?

As far as rentals? Right. Sure, it could be. You could have two-story rentals. You could have single-lambor rentals. I mean, any HOA would have to have the power to keep that from occurring.

So the HOA is going to be the only way to enforce... Our wish is that that doesn't become rentals.

Correct. Whatever is placed into that HOA as bylaws would be what can be enforced. The city itself cannot go in and do that on any private property, much less something like this. So it would have to be the people that live in the HOAs. If you talk to individuals, some HOAs are very active, some are not. Some will enforce it greatly, some just don't care. It depends on who actually lives there and who wants to be a keeper of that HOA and the bylaws that will make that happen or not. but that is not something the city would be involved in.

So I know you said on the rendering that we're looking at now that you and AEI weren't really agreeing that day. Can you speak to, is this basically to scale though?

No.

Okay. So it kind of just shows Concept, like you said, in terms of colors. That's about it. Okay.

AI and I went around and around for about two hours, and it just wouldn't agree with me.

Do you have some kind of stone accents on the front?

Yes, there are stone accents around the pillars and then on the bottom.

And do you think you'll have multiple colors like this?

That is the plan, yes.

Okay. So the backside is going to, let's say with the blue one, is just going to be a flat blue.

Pretty much a flat blue, yes.

Okay, with the patios and then the privacy fences coming out.

Okay. So one of the things that was a big piece of input from the neighborhood when we first started exploring this years ago was appearance and how it's complementary to the neighborhood and so on. Do you mind going back to the rendering of the side that would be outward facing? Because that's what's going to show most to the neighborhood, right? For some reason.

I can't find my cursor. You need to shut down and go back into it? I don't have to.

I'm not a computer.

I don't have to turn my computer on.

Is that the one you're looking for? Yeah. So I'm sorry.

I think the one that's dense on this. The top image that we're seeing there is inward facing. Those are the garage doors. The bottom image we're seeing is outward facing. That's what would be seen most in the neighborhood. Correct. Thank you.

And they'll have patios. Is the routing screen, privacy screen, one story? That'll be six foot.

The divider fences? They're six foot?

Six foot tall.

And then one of the questions that I've heard a lot from the public is trying to understand what affordable housing is. And a lot of people feel like that 300,000 price point is high, which I think we all here understand that housing costs are high now. But can you give us just kind of an overview of what kinds of finishes you're talking about that buyers would get for that price.

Wood trim with wood doors. Wood cabinets.

Flooring, countertops.

So vinyl floor or vinyl plank floors. Countertops would be the quartz composite. And then, yeah.

Okay, thank you.

Carpet upstairs. People tend to like carpet in their bedrooms versus vinyl plank.

What about bathroom flooring?

Bathroom floor would be vinyl plank. Easier to clean than carpet.

So I have a weird comment. I really like the, I like the AI, even though it wasn't, you had trouble with it. I like that. I almost wish it was turned around. Well, so that, that, that faced the street because it's really attractive and I, there's nothing wrong with this rendering of the backside, but it's, it's, it doesn't have much character. And I think that was one of the thing we heard from the neighborhood. So I almost wish it was reversed. Right. So that, um, you had a little more of that old building feel. And I don't know if that's...

It might be possible. I can redraw it and see kind of how it comes out.

Well, that second one you had on there had that very thing when you had all the driveways going out onto... That's going in. No, the one on the second plan. Oh, the second plan. The second plan. The second one.

Yeah. So, and what you're talking about, would that mean kind of like

making the making the garage on the back of the house rather than the front of the no I like I like having the garages internally because I think one of the things we heard was people are really worried about you know 5 different people pulling out into the street they're very worried about traffic heading up that street. But I I was I was in we've been taking pictures of places we've been for like the last 5 years. And I was driving by a development in West Des Moines, and they had street-facing front doors with very similar, you know, very attractive facing like you've got, and then the garages were behind. And so, you know, probably no one used that front door, right? And they didn't have a patio, so it was more like a brownstone appearance. But I just, I don't know, I wondered if it was possible to flip them.

I didn't try. I don't know. I don't know if you even. The roof line? Three peaked roof facing inward.

Just to give it a little bit of a, I don't know, more of an old-fashioned look or something.

I don't have enough of the construction. I don't know if it has anything to do with the downspouts and how the drainage comes off the roof.

We'll probably change the floor plan significantly, but make what's currently inward facing be outward facing and be the front of the house, but then the garage access would be on the back of the house. Is that right? Right. Obviously that would change your floor plan.

It would, but it's just moving a bunch of lines and see if they work.

It's just a little stark. I'm uncomfortable with

a mass of the backside of Holmes. That just doesn't seem welcoming to me.

Well, and the one, it's really only the one facing second that is that way, because the one, when he goes to where the street shows, it's actually the one facing sixth. It's just that one corner one in the south, southwest corner of it. The others are actually... The back would face the dry run on one side and the open creek space on the other. So it's on 6th Street.

Do you see the back of 1? Right. Yeah, back of 1.

That's a good point. So really it's only that one in the lower left where you would see the back facing 6th Street. Otherwise you're looking at the side on 6th Street and the side on 7th Avenue.

Now those sides, I don't think we've seen any renderings or anything or elevations of the sides. Do they have any windows or anything? No, they do not. The sides are just blank walls. So actually what we would see is the way we've got it laid out. Like Tim said, the backside of the one in the southwest corner and then all of those others, we would just see the blank side wall.

Correct.

So I guess you'd get a glimpse of the stone and the accents from the side, wouldn't you? From 2nd Avenue and 6th Street.

It's sort of like the ones up off 7th. What's the white ones that go up partially up the hill? You see a little wall, but then the private ground going up. Yeah, yeah.

If there are adaptions that need to be made, is the homeowner, once they've purchased it, be able to make those adaptions or changes?

Yes.

James, can you speak to the tax revenues that will be for right now this land is making us nothing? Listen, everything sells, it all goes, they're fully occupied.

Well, let's slate your side. Because every year things change, rollbacks, et cetera. That's what always drives a lot of this. You're gonna be looking at some residential properties, so it'd be taxed on about 45% of what the value would be. So if you have 300,000 a unit, which by the way, a comment, I understand it, IEDA, their tax incentive program is for $300,000 units. The state dictates that as workforce housing going forward. We don't necessarily, the state itself actually does. So that's where the driver is. It's not that we're, but that's where we're at today. So you'd have, what do I have here, 14? 14 times 300,000, you're at 4.2 million. 4.2 million, so you'd have about 2 million, let's say, in taxable value, and then you'd work your way down from there, getting what our levy is, et cetera, so.

Mm-hmm.

You don't make $4.2 million on it and send it over to some people out there that can't do math that apparently think that's how it works. You do have to actually build it for something, too, and it takes some money. It does cost money. That's what I laugh when I hear some of the construction experts online. You're going to make $10 million. Yeah, if it was free, you would.

There would be a lot of people building, too, if it was free. The question and the other questioning. It was a lot worth.

And we did not set that either. This was not a city wants to sell this lot. It was not that kind of a process. We were directed to find developers for this lot. Developers to make this work. Not just somebody come by that ground and let it be a grassland forever. Again, I love all the misconceptions that pop up by people that don't ask any questions or know anything. I always do enjoy it. It's a good read. But We just want to set that straight that we did not set a price. You did not have to offer a price to buy it. You did not have to. It was all part of what was deemed to be where it works the best for this process, and that's what you have in front of you today.

So the $45,000 number came from you guys, right?

Correct.

How did you come up with that number?

It was just a number that worked in our numbers to keep everything below $300,000.

I had a question about how you decided how many units to put in, but you sort of answered that. You have a limited amount of space to put these in, a cost per square foot, etc. That makes sense.

I think everything that you've laid out here, what you're saying to us makes sense. You're answering the questions that we have. I think it It seems consistent in terms of numbers and so on with what today's market is. One of the things that I'm really struggling with is from way back when we first started talking about this, we talked about wouldn't it be really great if we could I realize this is going to sound pie in the sky, but if we could create a development there that complements the neighborhood, makes the neighbors happy as much as possible. You know, certainly there's a certain amount of some people just don't like change. But we also talked about it would be really great if we could do this with some creativity and do it to create a small little neighborhood that is an asset to our community not just by providing units for people to buy and to live in but also by providing homes that that um are not just cookie cutter and and i think that's really what i'm struggling with and i don't have the magic wand answers to it um but I would love to see us be able to do something that is at least partially ADA accessible. I'd like us to be able to do things that have some focus on sustainability and that have some style to them that set it apart from just every other housing development. And I know that's asking a lot. for the parameters that we've put on the project. And I also know that we've been talking about this for a really long time and that land's been sitting empty for a really long time and at some point we need to do something. But my own personal feeling is I just don't know if we're there yet and I don't want us to just settle because we say it's been sitting empty forever and we need to do something so let's stick something in there and like I said I know that's not providing any answers but I'm just being really honest with the way I feel about it and what I've heard from people in the community that I just wish we could have a little more creativity to it I guess that's my personal opinion and and Some of the questions we need to ask them are, okay, if we're going to try to do something that's more sustainable or more ADA accessible or whatever, is that possible within the price point that we're talking about? And I understand we're not going to get 1,459 square feet plus those things. Do we need to look at doing smaller units or... Whatever. I don't want us to just keep kicking this down the road and not getting anything done, but I also don't want us to rush into it and just settle. So that's my two cents.

Julie, I respectfully disagree with you. I think this is a solid plan. I think it could be tweaked. This has been sitting, I think it was four years ago, we asked for the first proposals. We need housing. We need entry-level or that workforce-level housing, and this provides that. Yeah, it would be great if it could be ADA-compliant, but it already looks to me like they've scaled it back eight units to comply with the code of how much is developed of the person. And I'm afraid if you try to do too much, you're gonna scale the housing back even more and it won't be economically feasible for any builder. I agree that maybe they could flip some of maybe that corner unit to give it more character on the street side. But this is a solid line.

I think it's a good plan, but I agree with Julie on both the character and having different looking buildings more than just color as well as the concern for ADA. As someone who's looked for housing in Waverly, there really isn't. And it's, it's not even ADA, it's wheelchair accessible housing. There is nothing that is really wheelchair accessible and it is very expensive to retrofit. So it's, cheaper to do it on the front end. And people with disabilities normally don't have lots of money. So making it affordable and more people with disabilities are working and have an income. So having something like that I think would be a benefit for our community in a way that we have not been in before.

Do you have comments about that, Derek? I mean, is it possible to turn one of these buildings, you know, switch it to smaller units, but first floor or second floor or putting a bedroom on the first floor that's accessible? I mean, what are your thoughts? I mean, can you do that for the price point?

That's the thing. We just do a complete redesign, and the floor plan would probably shrink if we kept it.

to one story well again it's just the duplex unit we could do something similar to what we did across from spawn and rose with those those are zero entry all yeah handicap accessible we just need to change the cabinetry around you know as jen knows you have to make some provisions there which are it's It's easy to do, but the duplex unit could be changed the easiest and not compromise. Because when you're looking at the whole scale of the project, the other 12 units can help absorb some of that cost that goes into it. making a specialized living facility per unit, I should say.

Would you turn that, could you turn the duplex into two units then? Keep it two units, but just change the floor plan.

Keep it two units, yeah. I don't know as we have the, we're right at the maximum square footage that we're allowed, right, per visit. So we really can't add another unit. Right. Just be changing those two.

To one floor, one story only.

Single story?

Yeah.

If you put in permeable dry loads, would that count for 40%?

Those don't last in Iowa. The water gets into them right before winter, and then they explode. The replacement costs and everything, it's just not worth it. I'm not sure if that does count for...

I don't know if it does. There's equipment to maintain them. We look at them from the city standpoint, grants and things that we'd like to do. So there's money for it, but the longevity of it was limited. Again, there's special equipment you have to use in order to have them. Because you've got to vacuum out the pores, a lot of water to go through it. I mean, it's a lot. Less than the cost itself is quite a bit more to put it in versus slab itself. We've kind of stayed away from it because of those reasons to stay.

I'm just wondering, because that unit on the southwest side with the backs facing 6th, if that were turned around, the drivers come out on the 6th, so that's not as busy a road as 6th. Plus, 6th is already wider there because of the bus lane for the school. So I don't know what that does as far as front setbacks to have to push... If that has to move the whole unit?

It's pretty much, you just pretty much just flip it in place. Okay.

Because then you could essentially have one private drive to the southeast unit. Then you've got the front facing 6th there. Two driveways coming out plus the street, private street, isn't as busy. On 6th, I would be more concerned if they were coming out on the 2nd. Yeah, traffic on 6th is nothing compared to 7th. With the lake on there, it's not as, yeah.

This is a kind of unrelated question, but in the materials that we got ahead of time, you made reference to a five-year plan for that this would be completed. For build-out. Five years?

Correct. About building per year is what you can expect with the way housing moves in Waverly. Be able to build and sell. Because we wouldn't put them all about once. It would just be build one, sell it, build the next.

You'd want it to be sold before you start.

At least three out of the four sold before we start the next one.

Well, I appreciate all the work that you put into it. And I appreciate you coming forward because we have been at this a long time. And so I really like the AI generated. I think when I first saw the drawings, I wasn't so sure because it was a little bit boring. I hate to say that, but the big feedback we got from the meeting we had four or five years ago was, please make something that sort of fits. And I thought that was really attractive. And so, yeah, I mean, I think if you guys can play with it a bit and we understand you're not a no profit entity, right? And so you want to have this be what a smart business decision for you. But so I appreciate you coming forward, but I'd like to see some more ideas you have about the ADA duplex and maybe livening up the street view a little bit. And so I'm wondering, are we tied to the September 14th date or can we push it?

Well, you're not, ma'am. You could have another review on the 14th. You can approve it whenever you'd like. You can decline it whenever you'd like. You can do whatever you'd like. It's your meeting. You certainly set the dates as you would like to set them. So if you'd rather have the 14th as another review session versus a decision-making session, staff can certainly accomplish that.

Yeah, whatever gives them enough time. But if two to three weeks is enough, I'd like to see more ideas from you. I think we've been eager to talk to someone who does this for a living, who can tell us our, our ideas totally unrealistic because we do want to keep it financially attainable as the new saying is. Um, but, and this is really our first chance to brainstorm with somebody who does this professionally. So I appreciate it, but I, I'd like to give you more time to maybe tweak it and come back to it. Cause I do think it's a good plan overall.

I would agree with that. Let's take another look.

Do some magic and see what you can come up with.

Also to that point, I assume you guys, did you, sorry, did you see the images that we had presented to us by Intercog last year?

The mock-ups, yes. I believe so.

So one of the questions that comes to my mind as we're talking about this is, I don't think those were dramatically different from what we're seeing tonight, but it seemed like it was a little more aesthetically exciting. So if you had a chance to see those, my question would be, is that feasible to do something like that?

Not on the 40% coverage that is required by our three because parking lots going to take up a lot. I believe there's a parking lot in there with a building with a couple of condos or condo style building. Um, It's the coverage area of R3 that really limits how much more you can expand. Because once you put a parking lot in there, that's a lot of square footage eaten up.

Okay, thanks. Would you all be willing to bring us some more ideas in a few weeks?

I'll give you a couple more ideas to kick around.

Okay, I'd appreciate that.

Please.

Any other questions? Thanks for all you did. No problem.

Yes, thank you.

Thanks.

Council, you've received the report from the Airport Commission. Is there any discussion? That brings us to staff updates.

One quick update with the Labor Day weekend coming up. A garbage pickup will be Tuesday, September 8th, instead of Monday, September 7th. That's all we have tonight, ma'am.

City Council updates. Councilperson Coffey? Nothing from me. Councilperson Kangas?

Nothing from me today.

Councilperson Harmon? Nothing from me. Councilperson Jones?

I was just happy to have a proposal here, something to talk about, so thank you, guys.

Councilperson Nyer? No.

I would say since this whole development is taking place in my ward, I would look forward to last week. I did have a nice conversation with the person at the brewery afterwards. I'd be there. Please email me or let me know, especially if you're living in the area. Like myself, living a block away, it's going to change some things and hopefully for the better. So please email, call, let me know what your thoughts are.

Thank you.

Councilperson Wall. Nothing tonight.

All right. Council, do I have a motion to adjourn?

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