County Council - Regular Meeting
About this meeting
- Government Body
- County Council
- Meeting Type
- County Council
- Location
- Decatur County, IA
- Meeting Date
- August 18, 2026
Transcript
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At Oak Road Street, the revenues produced about 1.8. These aren't exact numbers, by the way. I'm just talking in terms of close numbers. About 1.8, the budget was spent at 3.15. There's a huge lot, and I've got a little, I've mentioned to Chris about that for the whole hour, about, and there's a huge number for salaries in there. Is that right? There's a huge number for salaries in Oak Road Street, correct? That's the minutes.
those are going to be very specific you should be able to document what that number is in order to pay salaries out so which if they want you that's fine typically um highway we pay it all out of the mbh and then we do adjustments and uh they will adjustments to come out of local road and street that state would have accounts once they're paying directly out of there not the transfer so Highway is very good. They have a program that keeps track of all their work, everything that's there daily, all their work, so they know what can be paid out there and what not.
That makes sense. That's right.
So, yes, so it is the correct way is to do it out of the two budgets.
Yeah, it just seems like numbers. it's in both or not if you look at that because it's going to never oh gotcha it is right so i think it's all cut out because it looks like the number is so big it's supposed to be your phone it's it's the wishlist you know they call the department yeah okay i didn't really i didn't dig into the lineup too much but to get a hold of her i forgot it's my fault um but either way we get about one point highway Revenues, about 3.45, 3, 4, 4, 5, I've been there. It's reduced a little bit. Same thing, maybe coming out of salaries or one-time, you know, one-time purchases or jobs. And then I get into the other stuff, the youth sports fund. You know, I was bringing it up really because it's changing purpose, changing revenue. Revenue has exploded on it, which is great. It's really my recommendation. You've got to pay attention to kind of the budget versus revenue. I mean, they're bringing in a ton. don't know in my long my long one on that fund i mentioned the revenue is through june 30 projects out to find that it projects out to 640. but i think we're getting to the fall so revenue should be dropping summer let's play here okay yeah we we run all the way up till uh november 6th is our last okay so you bring your job i mean so i don't know that the revenue will probably go to 640 but it'll be yeah pretty substantial so you can call it 550 that's you can read and so my suggestion on that one is just stay in touch with them and work that number out honestly um park the park fund itself though revenues about 932 931.5 and the budget was 1.4 and you can look at one-time expenditure and so forth reassessment We've had this discussion for years. Revenue is going up to about $67,000. It's actually up two grand. So the projection is. And then IT, I bring this up every year just to keep you guys aware of it. This 2022, that budget has increased 102% for about 350 to 707. I don't know what's the cost of it, but still the numbers keeps on growing. And then crisis intervention, There's more details in these back pages if you want to get any incoming questions later on. I'll be sitting here for a while. If any of you have any questions at all, I can run back up. Kenny, I gave him some stuff for the must meetings coming up.
Then he and I will stay in touch. If he's sitting on it, we'll stay in touch on
question is what's the city going to do for an option to your adoption or adopt their own and that changes some of those figures because then you still have to figure out how much income is inside the city versus outside the city that's a little deeper speculation so all right good for now all right it'll get long enough okay let's check do you want to move thank you general right
What is the recommendation on the salaries?
Ashley?
So, we were looking at two different options. The first was The other was to get everyone to the base level of salary. The spreadsheet of Wagner, whereas there's a higher end rate where people would start at the base with one year of service, and then there are brackets for different years of service beyond that. So they would be holding the higher end rates that they recommended, but anybody who is currently here with one year of service would be at the base level listed in the search.
Clear as that. Thank you. inflation. A set number will cover the inflation part. And I think if you automatically add pay raises to the higher paid people, I think we should go back to a set number. for inflation and maybe a little more of that. And if you want to be able to raise this down a lot, that should be a separate thing. I don't know, 3% inflation. I've just good little numbers. Average wage is just, say, $54,000, $55,000. Inflation is 3.4, I think. It comes up about $1,200 some dollars a year, just the inflation. I guess I'd be more willing to look at it, figure out that number, start there.
I think it's fair to anybody. That's just my opinion.
So if we tried to get everyone to the Wagner-Gerwin-Shealy recommended base, that would take us, that would cost us $430,000. Correct.
That is putting everybody, that's not just getting everybody up to base. That is giving everybody the five-year, three-year, five-year tenure. Okay, longevity. Up to base was 300,000. But that's getting, so the reason I made that spreadsheet is because we had the webinar in Chile study salary study done and they come back with we need we need to know where we struggle at this time but what dollar amount higher than that um so if you look at that spreadsheet it has higher so i feel like you know we've got to start if you guys you know my my first opinion is we've got to start with what wender and berwin and shealy says what they say sometime or another since we did this study So if we start with the higher end rates come 2027, higher end rates are higher than the majority of what people make that have been here.
So that's why I did that spreadsheet.
Here's the higher end rate. Here's the base. So I put on there how much it would be to get everybody up to base in order then for next year to start. which I believe is roughly 3% to 5% under base.
If I'm reading this right, really, the way you've got to set it, county general's total would be $22,000. Correct. The total for the whole county is $430,000.
The $430,000 number is if you can decide to either just get everybody to base and then make a decision for anybody that's over-based now, what they're gonna get. That 430 is to get, no, you're wrong, I'm sorry. I worked on this spreadsheet so much. Total to base plus the stipend, which we can talk later, for anybody who's over-based, yes, is the 430. But now, the majority of this is already built into your number you see, because everybody's asking for it. So it's not, this 430 is not above and beyond what's in your budget books because people have already asked for so much. So it's already pretty well built in.
So you're saying we should get everybody to the base rate that they taught in our study and then...
i think you guys will make that decision you know whether or not i just feel like we cannot move on with wis's recommendations by the hyren we can't hold you back to square one if we don't get people up to base because the majority of people are under okay so you know that's a decision do you um do you bring everybody up to base now and then maybe next year we're going to get everybody to their
longevity spots, or either, you know, that's, that's so you said that what the buzzer chat will present it right now, basically, get people close to the pagework.
Okay.
That's what it is. And there's some of this over there. Right?
Yeah, yes.
So, the bold, what I did was, what I bolded was the people that, because some people are only maybe going to give $500, $600, $700 raise, because that's if you give them, are only $500, $600, $700 under base. So, what I did then for those people, I took 3%, I took what it was to get them to base, and then I took 3% column there. So, you know, decide maybe for those people, give them a 3%. So I bolded the higher amount of the two.
So the totals don't include the unbolded numbers, if I just said. Not the unbolded, no. Often totals only include the bolded.
Some of those numbers will fall apart, fall from the base, and then are called 3%.
Well, we're not going to know the money we have until we start reading that.
I would like to see it get away from that situation. People get tired of it. We need to fix that. We've slowly been making money. yeah let's go let's go ahead let's come back That's I don't know. But all this. Yeah. Excuse me.
Like I have always, I just want to remind to, when you're moving into special purpose and public safety, moving salaries, we need to keep private.
Yeah.
Right. I just want to make that, it's just, it becomes a nightmare when those two are switched, being paid out of separate
Special purpose. 300 or 3,000,826.
keep overtime with salaries
Over time with salaries, that just that's part of what I'm saying is we can keep it in the same. So if overtime is going to be the salaries and FICA, those three, if they, you know, they use the same.
For the news.
Housing. Housing. That's when we talk to other counties.
Either for safety purposes or. That's outgoing though. Wow. That's ridiculous.
Thank you.
Sorry, I'm trying to get it on.
Trying to get it to here.
Plus. Over a million for sure.
Start.
Give me just a second.
I'll be able to get on.
Yeah.
Let me turn 315. Did you want action?
So we moved. Clothing. Great reveals.
I can go see the whole thing. My name is. Transitions exposition. Medical and clinical and equipment. That's what you did. Yeah.
Public safety. How much does public safety going to be doing on these days? Yes. It's certified shares, public safety, edit, and property tax.
you bring the same amount of money in total, and then you guys divvy it up in most of the different means.
That's not what I wanted to say.
No, that's a good point. Can you pay wages out of total? Well, I know it depends. Judges put that along with their insurance and food. Gas and oil for TMA. TMA is part of COVID safety. Are they classified as COVID safety? They were reclassified. Part of your leases jobs.
from detention to public service
Special purpose. Special purpose.
Yes, sorry. OK.
I thought she said 100. It's like one zero zero. One zero zero three. So we can make sure they're aligned with what?
I don't know. Be a pack on.
What did you say? What did you say?
I had made in 10,315.
But are you adding?
Well, 20 grand was.
So we're doing group insurance, clothing, meals, DOC holding. Um, everything on the back page except equipment. Equipment with that.
OK. One thing we didn't do what's best. That's your pitch.
Well, we don't.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I don't contract services. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
1,019,315. Yep.
Yep. Okay. Thank you.
Thank you.
Let's move on to supplies too.
You guys question yesterday the activity supplies. So there was a carryover from last year and that's why it shows that he had spent as much as he actually has from compared to last year. So he had like a $271 carryover. So he's actually spent 804.4 out of that. That would be the ECC activity supplies. You guys asked me a little bit. Oh, okay.
I would say we won't be able to use these forms.
Are we all right?
That's a great new launch.
What's the time? Now, I'm going to go here. But.
Yes, all the way. I'll be. I'll be.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're trying, we're trying really hard.
We need to go back through, we need to go back through.
Clothing, gas and oil, fire dilute, other garage and motor supplies. What's the radio repair we're into? Yeah. Radio repair? I will be in the training room there.
Good training is A plus. back up cars do what when we lease in vehicles it was possible to the tires we went out there 4 year rotation on that. Thank you. It goes up 2 to 10.
It's only a mile away. It would have been $18,900.
office supplies gas and oil clothing garage leather training radio lights
So that is $5,785 as well.
Radio repair and training. You still need. No. Okay. Okay, here you are. Okay. Yes, no. Uniform and clothing. Other I know what I'm on.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yes, uniform, undergarage and bonus supplies.
Wait, are we not doing office supplies?
Okay, office supplies. Okay, that's four. Should I train 750? Oh, I have corn dog. radio lines.
What was that total again? 785. Here.
That's a little. Sorry to lose.
Yeah.
Yeah, so. Well, I checked. Yeah, I believe others are not in both watch. Radio there. Training. And what you guys all got.
Three three. And then. Let's make sure she gets the rotation.
All right. uh
Could it so like me if I'm changing?
Hold it.
I just slowly.
Get to my next user training and certification. Yes. I think it won't be.
Again, last year. Yeah, because I think it just, if you go back to public safety, it really doesn't break it down. It's just got gas and oil on each one. There's no gas.
I'm pretty sure it's what we did last year. They didn't put them in budget.
Does that make sense? Yeah.
Travel expense?
Yeah, travel expense.
Travel expense and travel. They both be losing their year? Yeah.
That'll be fair.
We'll try it.
Local road supplies? That'll be okay.
Yeah.
That's it. Animal control.
Yeah.
Got all those four under ones.
14, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
Yeah, I'm going to have to do it. I'm trying to keep going.
I don't know. I don't know. Are you counting 3,000?
But that still wouldn't be even if it took 3,000 out of the 13.
Did you say office supplies?
Disaster pouch? I think van repairs.
13.2.
Yeah, we had 16.2, but we added $3,000 in for the plan. 16.2. So, 13.2. Perfect. Where are you going next, Nick?
I don't know.
No. Yes, no. We're taking this to public safety.
Okay. Well, that all
That's not why it's on the not on their bill. It's 15,000. They said yesterday.
That last bill checks. But it is on their form. 15,000 for 15,000.
That's right.
Okay, so what do we have?
years ago, but that contract that out. Put together the figures that we paid. They go up there. Okay. Is that what the board to board show them after the count tech? Have we ever come up with something Actually, Ripley's changing that.
They're just changing. They're getting ready. Yep.
They're going to do what?
Start getting their own shelter. Oh, really? Yes. And just a setting it out. There's a whole different view on all those. I don't know if I can handle that. Oh, stop. whatever service we're providing they couldn't they have to take in the money moving on moving on yeah that's good change the name of their director and they're working towards having a shelter.
Did they have a shelter before?
They had a non-profit shelter.
Okay, can we move gas and oil? Gas and oil.
Uniforms.
Okay.
okay uh
A judge slice. You can show him a lot. You won't publish you more. And we forget it. Sport. I think. Server they said something yesterday about. Yeah, yeah, well. Yeah. One. Right. Right. We could probably get paid out of it too.
Yeah. Pay the salary out of it then the person that
Insurance. Which one? One of them we just played earthen insurance on, right?
Public safety. That was a big correction. Oh, that's okay. It's a great boy.
Those are entries while we couldn't take both. Well, you cannot.
I'm a privileged officer here. 76, 721, two juvenile.
Yeah, that's what he's asking for, but that's always a state budget. Oh, wait for it.
So it's going to be second, you know, right?
We need a program. So we're putting that one in public safety. Just one of them or all of it? Well, you want to move? We don't know their salary.
We don't know what salary.
That's right. All right.
That is sad sausage. Can we at least count on the seven, six, seven, two, three, four, now?
Is that what we're going to do, I think?
Well, we're going to do it. Oh.
That's two. Courthouse security. There you go. Let's go. OK, I thought anything scared.
Thank you.
No, I have. Board house.
Once we get dollars. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Do you want to move them for security? Hold on.
2 million to go. Good. But we also.
Salaries. Salaries. Salaries, yeah.
Share.
What about moving the enterprise contract to public safety? Yeah, that could probably do that. Quarter of a million could go there. I don't know, a year down. I think we're still at it. Yeah, two years. She just has a bigger vehicle. No, it didn't the first time. Get vehicles and equip them. we're gonna move this thank you replants and transfers 1550.
935,000. 935,000.
Is it public safety?
Just out of sheriff.
For a while, sheriff.
I only have 49650. That's all I know.
Just 200. Isn't that the same as 300 before we started?
You can't. Oh, yeah. I'm just taking a lot.
We did something.
That's what's coming up.
I'm 15. Office 1.
Yeah, oil that was 8000.
Yes, I'm not. Yeah. Did I give up? OK.
what did you get
Yeah.
Cool. 13.
for a bigger amount of retirement contributions, but.
I'm the sheriff. Yes.
Yeah, thank you. What is it? Retirement. Is that based on salary? It is not.
Okay. I mean, it is, but we pay it differently. We don't pay it through payroll. It's paid as a claim. Okay. Christy.
Thank you. All right, Colby. You're welcome.
okay all of it can come out okay or all of this for one okay yes all for one with all her wishes
What do you think? Are you able to type stuff out? I think it's Kelly. That's what we're working on. any generals that make sense and i think we did pretty much
No, I think it's two weeks.
Oh, look. $2,385,000. I mean, out of the share. In the public safety and special.
That's total?
Total coming out of the county. Both. I'm working on, she's working on putting it in public safety and special purpose. I'm working on taking it out. on what's coming out of just the shares budget.
Oh, you're talking about the shares?
One million to do 44. Sorry, I was doing totals.
That's pretty sure.
Yes. The other is total Allen County.
I don't look like Charlie. I don't hit that.
Our numbers are done.
Well, I'm not.
Charlie. Sheriff. Sheriff.
Okay, let's share. 293 438.
Retirement contributions. Group insurance workforce.
Okay. That would be the difference.
Put it up in there.
Okay, what did you have? Did you read down my list here?
All right. So we got government contribution 293.438. Got office 507. Gas and oil at $100,000. Gift oil at $8,000. Tire glue at $20,000. Other garage at $45,000. Radio repair at $5,000. Tidals for $1350. Trading at $20,000. Equals to $250,000. There we go.
All right.
Group insurance. Let's do it. Group insurance. Take care of yourself.
44. Yep. So, Danny, do you want to move it?
Yeah, 244.
That's what we're working on right now. We're having six. See where we're at.
You're good to go.
We've got 133, 33, 34 pounds that we say we can play with. And he's making a little move now.
He had his back in the back.
All right, so I got one minute 274,400. And what? One minute. One minute. It takes a little bit. We have to type.
One minute.
One minute.
One minute. One minute. One minute.
figure out between public safety and personal purpose, how much, how much? Yeah. Special purpose. I don't know.
I've given
Right. Any special purpose rate that's not going to affect prior to the law changes. Yeah.
I'm sure that we'll find some way to make that change. There'll be one huge rate for everything.
One figure is right. Definitely transfer all that. 885,000.
Eight hundred eighty six thousand. Yes. Well, I think we've got that. We're going to use that. I'm saying you still have room to burn. I misunderstood. We've got $1,033,034 we could spend. We've got $1,274,427 left. The two that we did spend.
You did spend.
What?
You're right up against it, yeah.
Do what? You're right up against it. Yeah. The only thing we can do is go ahead and take back some of your books. And buy it at home. You'd have to know.
If we get to that point, let me know.
Yeah, OK. You know, figure this salaries. That's perfect. Well, you don't want to watch. I don't care.
That's a lot of fun.
So in simulation, Black. Let your brain be fresh. What is that?
Yep. Color. What's the problem with security? What's the problem with security?
What's the problem with security? What's the problem with security? What's the problem with security? What's the problem with security?
What's the problem with security? What's the problem with security?
How long have you got? Oh, it's soft. I didn't think about anything like that.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
This. So I just. New staffer study. All I did was stay active in my room and it's fixed.
I'm really amazed.
That was my first expectation when I found out about you.
I don't think I've ever talked to all the ones that I've talked to about me. I mean, it's never been.
Okay, push.
That's where that came from because I had two vagans on you and you kind of figured out that the others aren't vagans.
but like they said they still have a little extra one so they invited that description That's where I've been trying to go on my depth survey, but I don't think it's going to be good.
No, I mean, it's going to go by, I mean, it's going to go by what vaccination period you're in. I know. You see, that's why I was trying to do it.
You know, next year, you know, just, you know, I expect it to happen. I'm pretty excited. Yeah, the majority of you guys do.
No, that was stupid. That was stupid. That was when they did the first part.
Good job.
It's now that you guys are all comma two.
I mean, honestly, the other ones are newer, so they're going to be saying eight. That's what I mean. I chose two. Then I would say, then I would say, the judges would be like, we're going to get on it.
You just don't have time. I mean, I was moving all out, and she was coming. Oh, crap.
I mean, you get into the business, and now she's trying to get in.
I know you want me to kiss you.
I know you want me to kiss you. I know you want me to kiss you I don't know. Didn't they just count you?
And then she has a guest on the couch.
That we all work together.
I would not do that.
I already got one. Oh, that's fast. Thank you so much.
Cheers. It's been a great opportunity for me. Yeah, me too. I'm so good to see you. Thank you. So thank you. Thank you, though, for that. No, that's not true.
Yeah, we're gonna work hard.
Okay. Yeah, we gotta get... Well, Ashley can do it.
Why do you want to do this? I don't care. But I appreciate it.
Why do you appreciate it? Because it's a little girl. It's a little girl.
Yes, but it's not fair. Oh, but the one from the other side. Yeah. Oh, uh-huh.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Let Jonathan know to get your phone.
Yeah. Every single one. I didn't even know this stuff.
Are we going to have to go through the test?
But you're still not addressing years of service, right?
This is where we're at as a county general now, $2,457,000,000. So we're down to $13,801,000,000.
And that includes the salary numbers.
I had $1,917,838. Out of both? Yes. Because I took that $400.
Okay, well, I just took the pension. Oh, shit. You got paid? Did you take your bath or not? Yeah, I did. Same thing I did. At 1,090,315 from special purpose. And we have 827 side 23 from public safety. So that's where we're off. And that's with animal control.
They should share. And circuit.
$98,000 came out of the shoe. $15,700 out of the corner.
That's plus the $3,000.
We put it into public safety. Gotcha. Okay.
Circuit court is $82,091. I don't have anything.
We didn't have that total earlier because we didn't know the salary amount. 82, what's that? $82,091. And then animal control is $5,450. And then we have the 420 budget. You guys probably don't have all of this. volunteer fire department and local agreements that's good volunteer i mean it's in your budget so it was technically moved from general then no that one was not sorry
We've been doing. Well, here's what we've been doing for a thousand years. What they should be doing, correct?
Mm hmm.
We've been doing all this all the time.
So what's moved out of county general?
Bonds and insurance is it?
Bonds and insurance, yeah. for the detention center like the insurance the property but it might be the difference between what you're talking about right now
We can move it. Emergency lodging for 911.
They have storms and dispatch days. I just took it out because we moved it. That was just, it was put in there where it was from last year.
It just continued in here.
It was from Sheriff or EMA. It was from one of them. So we feel confident that we sent it to the other garage movers.
Is it only you six? so far. No. Yes.
That was fun.
To get out to because
all of that um tiffany just i had told her to leave in what was there from last year all of those have parties they were now put into like the sheriff and detention budget so all that's in there now some emergency lodging Bonds, insurance, volunteer fire department, and the two in our locals.
Who's training down there on the bonds?
I took it out because it's included in the shares.
Two of them, two of them.
Is that true? Almost there.
I can't. It's nice.
The salaries.
Salaries, how much we need?
I don't know how much we need.
How many general is that?
Yep. $700,000 is that? $731,000.
Something else you have to remember too is for 2027 we have 27 pigs. There's a full extra 400 roughly $30,000. For an extra. For one year only.
Good morning. Travelers.
If the microstructure that wasn't provided to cut off questions, it's not that you almost have to at least get put in place to work with it. And then you have to adjust . I'm not sure.
Okay.
Go to that. Go through.
And after. 2027. If the extra pay is happening.
A little bit.
Oh, weird. Your service. How about? 26 days left. we have to start out right in everybody's face and this plan is what the proposed ordinance so we're voting on it for this if you go to the face study that's over base you choose to give a stipend that they build their salary
Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. There are many people that are under base by less than $1,000.
But like one of them was, you know, one of them was $94 and. So 10 of them are counseling commissioners.
You get a stipend. A person that's over the base. Is that a one time stipend just for one year? we still have a reduction in salaries in this year.
That means I stay at the current salary. I'm just going to stop at that.
But if it's only for one year, does the salary go down the next year?
Because it all goes to the stipend.
You can't categorize the stipend with the salary. It's not in the stipend.
I know what the stipend is, but I'm saying it Just for simplicity, $50,000 in your base was supposed to be $59 a year, $1,000. Your base is $49 a year, $1,000 over. One-time, $1,000 stipend. And then next year is your base, is it $49, not $50? So now you're losing. It's a one-time stipend. Your salary used to be $50. Now it goes backwards to $49. You're losing. Okay. I'm off. I'm not catching up. Just asking. Trying to understand the idea of the one-time service.
It's part of a bonus payment instead of building on your salary. I used to wait for everybody else to get up to the base so then they could all move forward.
But to Brian's point, I agree with what you're getting to. You get $49,000, $50,000. get an extra grant, you don't get that extra grant, you've lost that spending power, you've lost that feeling. You don't have the extra $1,000 the next year if you're running out of funds. Yeah, but the next year you might be getting a raise or another loan.
Perhaps, perhaps. I think you're being penalized for being already over-based. So you're going to deduct that, the stipend, you're going to get it. You'll want to hear that going forward, you're stuck. Now back to 49 instead of 47. It's always going to be 50.
That's kind of the issue.
You know, if you're trying to get 50, you'll still be at 50. If you're at 50 and you're getting 1,000 bonus the next year, you're still at 50, not 49.
You're not getting 51. We don't know what we're getting. Well, to Brian's point, I mean, You're making $50,000 a year. We decided we're going to go with the base that Wes put out. $49,000. You're going to get that $1,000 and still get $50,000. But the next year, we're at $49,000. Everybody's coming in at base rate. We're at $49,000.
So would you propose not giving the savings at all?
No. I'm just repeating what Frank's trying to make a point there.
not maybe i'm off i'm just trying to take a step back well that's the reason this is before that thing that's a year that's to get everybody on the same page is what it's going to do i don't understand where that comes from i understand what's going on because then the next year we go to I think the alternative to giving them that one time would be nothing, right?
Well, where we got turned around was the first year we did years of service. What did we give?
A little bit extra.
Yeah. And I'm saying we gave them. We would give them. have research for years of service. They were in the same category, ended up more than what lunch with half the time. I've got three folks. Yeah, we call that 24. So behind what 24 television event? We haven't caught up in that one yet.
I looked at those and this proposal is more than what they would have got on the three year. So this.
I haven't seen this yet. Right.
I did.
Okay.
So going back to their third year.
We've got to go on base rate. And I'm making 50 grand a year. Base rate, my God, goes to 49. And so this year I'm going to get that extra
if you face trade the other decision points what different things will give people that are above and then there's going to be that gray area where the stipend is more than what it takes to get some space We don't have a good idea of what those projections are. But also within these budget requests, people factor in different percentages of what they want.
Yeah.
But if these numbers.
What's the goal? Do we want to get to these numbers or do we want to get to this number?
These numbers in here are all over the place. Are you talking about what's in your budget book?
That's what you said, right?
Those are all over the place.
There are wish lists.
We just don't know. We don't know which ones are the most, the highest, right? That's it.
At that point, they just start a brawl.
But this is not lower than this conversation. We are not getting to where we want to be, which is this. So regardless, we need to pay attention to that. It should set the attention. Yeah. And am I way off base? I've been there many, many times. At some point, if you're going to bring people up to a level, somebody on the other side is going to have to take a haircut. And there's no two ways about that. Am I right in thinking that? So you're saying bring them up to base without a stipend? What do we have in our budget? What do we have to spend? How much do we need to do? What is the number? If we've got, to bring everybody up to speed, if we've got enough in the budget to divide by how many employees do you have, then that's the size of the number that you need to give out to do, to be one, transparent, and another, try to treat everybody. And obviously, you can't be evil.
You can't be both.
So, yeah. It's hard to do. So that's my head. I think we have a number that gives everybody the base. And we achieve that goal. start working with the rest of the budget to see if it meets what Ruben said.
We haven't transferred. We haven't changed. We can still transfer.
731 more. Well, according to, and that depends on whether those numbers, people leave numbers on the study too.
I have here without the stipend, it's $258,902 to get to.
But then we need to offset whatever people put in the budgets. Right.
So I can.
Yeah, because that is. Right. Yeah. That's what I'm trying.
yeah if tiffany's got the listening to you guys and um
Yeah, but I would say, like, is that going to show up? Yes, she's been working on it. For anybody that's in the room that may see your salary, please know it's not guaranteed until I do not make financial decisions. So we can talk about the salaries. Well, we're going to do the salaries as we go through so that we can see what's going on. Is there a way you guys can say what we have now in case we need to go back to Star Wars? You know what I'm saying?
Oh, yes, I will. Yes, I will save it.
Just saying, that way if we get halfway through, we're like, oh, this isn't going to work. We haven't changed all the numbers.
Thanks.
I've got a long line. If you want to go with me first, I can find you that.
If not, I'll come back.
I'll just say hello.
It could be an hour.
An hour. There's at least a tab that has people chat. Why don't I go do it? Yeah.
Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Okay, so we're down past all the sellers.
We got to get that packaging number so we don't push it too fast. So Chris is working on it. Okay, that's okay. Yep. Tell me where you're going.
It came out of the election budget before.
Yeah, actually. I'm trying to think we had someone quit for a higher paying job and they got. I thought that.
This would be.
Well, this was full. Oh, yeah, it would show like probably right before that. Yeah, I've used. We can do like office machines with that QCAP, right?
Furniture and office machines can go on QCAP. They came out.
Why did the pair of equipment and maintenance double at six times?
Remember, 36,500? It was the what? 1,500 to 2,000, but it doesn't look like anything's been extended this year. It's okay, it's not 1,500.
All right, just after time, I was afraid, you know, like, but we can load it back up.
Load it to where it was. Put it back to 15. Yeah, 15.
36.5. I don't forget that you want to move your software storage up.
What's up? What's up?
Um a lot like so um I've got two coffee machines that we do um
I spent like, Adobe that we have to have monthly to do that.
There's several things about that usually. If you want to put
Yeah.
We have like, we have that we have to pay yearly. And then we've got the description to some of our vendors, that kind of thing that we use to pay some of that.
Because I live with four grand instead of five.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Wait till we get down here. Yeah, yeah. Go back up to Clark. Before we move on, let's let us know when we're back.
do a double check yeah that's it we won't have to do it starting at 36 200 what what have you got for each one six thousand is there 36 200 right here okay
Up to 6,000. And we're moving.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right?
You're all introduced.
She got them from 315 again. I don't know how many else went down. Get them.
no i'm doing salaries
That's your recorder.
I'm trying to also get on the border.
Sure.
Take a lot of that.
Yeah, we take house.
Get that $100.
Yes, three telephone. Again, this contract expired. We're going to consolidate everything they can see. Respecting the company will pay the contract. Get out. So is there something else that disappeared?
Because we went from six to 19,000. So we were paying prizes and AT&T. However, because our population is lower. And then Great Plains. So basically Great Plains, we were paying out of equipment. We ran out of money in commentary to pay phone bills. We were utilizing the cell phone bill, like I mentioned, it was like $6,000 to pay what we could of the cell phones and Wi-Fi points. And then once we utilized that, then we were moving to equipment, but it was hitting our equipment pretty hard. And then once we ran out of money in that, then we paid the rest of that in commentary.
So this just combined it all, all three bills into one for free.
So everybody else got on the county's phone, is that right? You guys can't be there?
Yeah.
Well, part of us are. We are on the system. We have a back line. We have a back line. We need to incorporate. Okay.
I don't see an answer.
We took training out of public safety, right?
Did you want furniture?
I'm going to leave it at their current salary for the purpose of being here. I don't see anything in the other way. What is that group that you're so on?
Well, first of the survey. And three girls. I got three girls. I know three. That is why.
That's just how high insurance is.
I said that's just how high insurance is.
Yeah, you actually dropped. Second. they never did put that in and he has they have this working i think that i'm not remodeled i know they got new furniture and some things i'm not sure i'll do that
We don't need a coroner's office anymore to proceed with that. Well, I know.
It was talked about putting it in place for the hospital.
It did get cooler in the helmet. That's worth it.
I think we can do it. Okay.
That's my senior. He reduced 17.5 for secretary. I'll do a part-time on that next year. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. oh wow even though ours remains the same our system value perspective is very higher than this oh yeah the everyday service chris
those out there but we may get better service we may get a better product because somebody's going to come down and teach you about overpaying and we don't correct him or remain saying we're not going to i'm going to remember when the phone already went to him and asked questions and that don't happen you know that you know
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
furniture for $100. Yeah. He took it all. He took it all. We don't know what's going on there. Now,
The one he gave you yesterday, I had not seen it. I think I updated it. He just added that assistant into it. I think he just added the assistant into his project for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was 20,000.
Makes no sense. This is first wrong. Unless it's somewhere else.
He only has $364 for perfect. That's wrong. going this between his assistant i could understand more than this budget is in his book that's how you want that versus the person in the right
Oh, that's right. The extension of the secretary was still in, so that's $40,000. Yeah. $75,000.
Because it's $5,000. $75,000.
For the $75,000 for part-time? For the secretary.
Secretary all the way out. The whole part-time was $17,000. Well, he left.
I'm not worried about it's what's going on all the rest is on the front page right but you've seen here's what he's down that's what exactly this thing here don't mean that
I agree. I don't think it came to us one full time. He says it'll be a couple of years. Yeah. Thinking correctly.
Thank you.
I'll do it.
I'll do it. I'll do it.
The drop assistant.
Better. But she's not even.
And then how is his birth? $4,763.364.35. It's supposed to be. 36.35. All these sheets, $364. So the numbers that are on the screen, that'd be the five, five, three,
Yeah, that's what it should be. Yeah. Is with wrong. Which makes me wonder where he got this.
all the way down but the assistant services
He's got a new truck.
He's got
It's got to be $2,500. So that brings $50,000. That's not showing on this.
That's what we're talking about.
Or take the one that's in the book down, take $5,000. Exactly. he has a number in this button of two thousand dollars that he's got listed as flyers and swag and i don't see that in here It's the number matches, yeah, that's.
So the only change was prepared payments for 2500.
Removed by that.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
I know, we're in a break zone.
Any questions on that? Yeah, I do.
What are we doing? On what line are you turning? 11-400. 20,000 to 22,000.
Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, the pay. I don't have a list.
12104 to find.
We've got 498, 625, and 55,000 reclaimed out of the standard. But when we're tracking across like that, that would be closer than that.
So the left is requested budget. The next one over is adopted budget. The next one is extended.
The next one is requested for the shoot. Yeah. Oh, that watch.
All right, video. Unfortunately, you still have to have all the vote centers open. Yeah, pretty much like Right, we still have both about the same amount.
Question or answer on that? I just booked 10 meetings. Funneling election. I think more than that. Travel expenses. It's been like $470, but it's been $5,000.
We could probably cut that. We still need it for conferences that we get to. The Secretary of State is trying to post They'll get some of their training because they're a little harder, the integrity of elections. Some of those like for travel. And then the day of election, like all the you know, driving around people, like setting up wraps.
Oh, yeah.
Probably so.
Yeah, so we have, there's a summer election conference. And this year, this is being held in Michigan. But it's the only one, the only option. And then we have, in December, have the election conference that we held in the election board also.
He's been sent to an exit, but what? It will be spent almost $1,500.
Yeah, actually, I'm hoping I'm not going to be a little short because it's a separate really expensive. And when you let four go to the several members that.
I don't know. Get all the voting machines.
Yeah.
What? Get all your voting machines. Yes, we did.
We also got the iPod going and then battery back to them. They were doubtless. It was that great. So we did the first time. Yeah. That's true. Yeah.
Well, I know you want me to spread the place.
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and $50,000 in plants.
Well, it's just kind of an emergency.
Right. Right.
You know what? That's what it is. We did. We should have spent some on Ireland and Chile. We're the one who built it up to have that last.
Go keep it in there. We probably have a place to go to draw back.
No, I don't think we really.
Commissioner.
That's my. Yeah, we're still. Yes, ma'am.
Well, did you guys question the two office supplies yesterday? So one of them that we did, 23 or 21301, that was for the Carbson Investation. That's what that has been for. So that might be clear in case then. Which one? The commissioners? Yes.
I thought we moved on to the commissioners.
Yeah, that's right. Which one's the other office supply? Yes. So it's the one that has the 23301. yes so that was for the health department 2020 in our station in clintonburg that's what we did but i didn't know you want to call it that so right now we're taking away Should be one of them. Is that because? Yeah, I don't. Sorry.
Commissioner.
But if that's the case. Yeah, we did.
I'll fix it here. Sure.
They pay the French for community corrections. Commissioners pay the French for several of the community corrections.
It says it's $22,205. Oh, it's $12,000.
I think. This is .
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Seriously. All the time. I'm sorry. That's just an error. Oh yes, I am.
I'm going to cut.
last year's last just
Yes. Yeah, we did. They did figure out what the difference courthouse flags.
Yes. So courthouse flag will actually be considered here one day commissioners are announced for the veterans.
And like sheriff, everybody else all the other years ago for some reason i vaguely remember it being taken out of veterans and but to fishers um but that was the difference so we could either combine them
But. Okay. We actually put them all in one. I agree. So you got one place to go. One place. No, it'd be.
Would it make flags?
take the alliance commissioner but you know okay this is good okay that way it's taking care of whatever gets you get shoes my dumb hunter jesse can you explain the 38 400 to the council why we went 30 45 000. but
uh examiner records is our audit and we don't have the bill because they just dummy they just did the uh exit conference a couple of weeks now uh so we do not have the bill yet so we never have my budget time um but it has been coming in over that 30 000 so that's why we raised it last year, our bill, I printed it, it was like $42,000 and something. So it's, it'll be close to that $45,000.
Hopefully. We should be getting it.
Yes. They charge a lot to do that.
I think it's been going too much time.
So that's why you'll see that zero dollars spent by
I moved all of that back up and just right now it's graceful to me. FICA for group insurance.
Did you take $25,000 out of that?
Did you create $25,000 out of that? So we went back for $50,000 in the council, did we have a statement?
We're going to look at that and see if we do take $25,000 out of it.
Do you want to keep the $5,000?
We put $5,000 in for Charlie's truck. Do you want to keep it at $75,000 or $80,000?
So, maintenance truck, you wanted to add it to P&I. Yesterday, the question was, do we up it by 5,000?
I don't recall that. I don't either.
I asked that at the very end of the meeting. I said, Charlie's truck was not budgeted for last year. So, and I asked where you guys wanted me to put that, and you said P&I. But we didn't put an amount on it. I said P&I.
Okay.
So if we take, do we want to take the P&I back to 75 or take it to 80 with having like five, roughly five expansions?
What's been spent out of P&I?
Where's the 826?
Yeah, the 1st.
So $2,000 or $75,000. $75,000, you know, $8,000 has to be part of that $75,000. You just know that going in.
go with it down. Charlie, we always said, if it is worthwhile, you can find them online if you find them. So, that's 375,000. The total is 75,000. If you need something for an old shit phone, try it. I just don't know what it is.
Is anybody going to send a carriage at home? Oh, is it?
Right. I'll just say no. He's wanting to retire. He just can't.
I don't have any problem with that. $2,500 is good. I don't think it's kept dry. It'll tell.
Do you guys get anything at the Sheriff's Office? Center Center?
Oh, that's great.
Work with you at all?
Yeah, to have them, yeah.
So you're happy with what you're getting?
Formation CRT, we do a culture relationship six years ago. Since that $5 million.
$5 million value.
Correct.
We're spending it $4 million. So we need to be able to get that value out of that.
And I've always struggled with that. Is it not mandated?
It is mandated. But you should be trying to get the value.
Yeah, well, what I can say is it's better than anything.
But if they're proving it, I would make this group feel better.
Well, yeah.
Or tell them.
I don't know.
They should be giving us one day. And it's a lot better.
there's an organization of one i cannot get off i can't get the damn commissioner but anyway what we use at 94 is to take more pumps and electrical service and things like that. So we pump each in the city, city treats it, puts it back into the system. It's all documented. So, you know, that's, it's going to be there until the second guy that dies.
Somebody else.
You know, I've had conversations out there or something like that. We've offered it to solar folks, you know, but it's just not close enough to Ohio to see all that. We do bale the hay off of it. We do that for the last three or four years. You know, it's one of those things in the community that I would really love. That's what it takes. If you want to look at any history, it's all in that cabinet over there. Four binders. It's interesting.
Really, really cool.
Yeah, I'll take it. and to that point brian i mean if there's 25 000 councils plan sentimentations that i don't recall the council everything like that i mean i don't know but i don't know that we ever did it well it kind of goes back to what there's money
And that's kind of what we look at a little bit. Same way Danny's looking at it. It's kind of that fun, like, oh boy, here we go. We need this money. That's what kind of walked off us. And we were at, looking at our books, what we spent on it. It's like, okay, it doesn't, you know, you're getting close. You need to up a little bit. Because at one point, that's what happened. 800,000. Cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. Let's just have a little buffer here. 75 seconds that's why we got a little control think about this which is fine with that it's just really what i'm that's what dave is saying it's that oh boy we got something to happen well yeah and it's what bill says is that it's it's
budgeted 50 last year and you haven't used it all yeah yeah we've got that the back for testimony again that's what we've heard but it was kind of at the standby yeah all right you want to go back to prosecutors okay
Hey, are your interns part of the high school? I have had one that's something we've left on task, but currently we don't have a prospect. We lowered that down. The intern? Yeah. Yeah, we haven't passed. I think we went down to 5,000 last year.
1,000 last year?
One to the 1,000, yeah. Woo!
You covered that other one.
I covered that one trip now.
All right, I can do that again.
See, once we know, yeah.
Yeah.
The 5000 to attend meetings.
You have a meeting late in the year, correct?
We do. Yeah. And that actually. So every four years, the newly elected prosecutor conference, that's this year. Don't say that.
Do you want to be 14?
Or is that later for us? it's coming up it's having another word okay 100 off
Taking this computer furniture off for a hundred.
Water printer. License papers.
We were over, like the GIS at Pictometry, where they fly, was not fully budgeted. So we had to move money around. So we stopped the GIS.
And that affects
it affects like the sheriff's department uses it right um everybody uses the highway department I think your office used to write your reassessment, used to cover it all. Reassessment used to pay for everything.
And then it kind of depleted my reassessment. And so I think he told us that we needed to really watch what we were sending out of reassessment. So that's when I had to slip it to the GIS team.
I have 10 minutes. No.
I'm sorry.
APC attorney. We put $30,000 in it.
Yeah, we said a 10 meeting in the thousands. They get the five. $1,500.
That should be a guess. You should have like a hardcore number. How would you go from $1,000 to $3,500? You know what? $1,700. $1,700. $1,500. How do you remember it?
Traveling. Traveling. Advertise. Of course, I'm not sure what's going to happen. I mean, it all has to go away. It goes in the paper, all the time. It has to go away.
A lot of other things that we do now, they have sort of been, I mean, a lot of things are good. There are great things.
Did he talk about that? He did.
The GEO permits for 9-10,000 and the hosting fee 15 years. Yeah. I don't mind an 88 updates for like 5200. Yeah.
It also includes their YouTube sheet. Thank you. Any questions however, if you need to run anything, whatever it is,
Look those over and get with me.
Talk about those numbers. Keep me updated on those meeting dates.
I never got a few, so I asked Christine.
She said that. OK. Thanks.
Yeah.
I think they are expecting more. I don't think I did.
Gotcha.
We had a lot of changes on that. I'll just slide it down to five. Meetings down to 1,000. Cell phones, 15. Redwoods, down to three. And I'm trying to think of
flags but we put them in and made the commissioner four thousand still doing five thousand on the long fair that's additional for us talking with these guys if we have to change tricks
i'm not sure yeah and the highway department but the fairgrounds is playing the whole thing for the annex and the county garage i'm not sure that's just for the courthouse yeah this is because we're going to figure out what to get it one more transport too
this is also for whatever you can't get to okay yes okay
I always hold that man.
Not now.
Let's see what. We have to see that he goes anytime soon.
I got one.
That's a great.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't have that.
Good thing he dropped his soap budget.
Good thing he dropped his soap budget.
Oh, they still have it.
Take that $100.
Yeah.
There. Yeah, you. Yeah.
Actually come up with something here and let her explain it. We have a special purpose magnet move in a special purpose yet. Recently, a special purpose.
I think we're out. Really, here's party went in.
We're just That's what, because they're almost all the salaries were moved over there.
And control.
50% more. Yeah, that's a turnover.
That's jail. Yeah, because we're turnover.
We just had a. Drop that person.
okay what's the kind of the bottom line of animals so right there the four fifteen seven one four four fifteen seven one four I'm living with someone that sent out a little credit card. Yes. Yeah. How many part time is it?
They've got a part time count that does. I think that's 20 hours a week. They've got the Sunday only count that five hours a week, but then the larger number is reflecting the two grants funded positions that are about 16 hours a week each, where the grants are ending at the end of this year.
That's. Yeah. Actors.
This is actually full size kettle. Right floor.
Please. Sound please.
i might get that on 4g all right all right Both goes on.
I don't know.
Well, we'll keep going. See, I think.
there is a plan right now so unless that gets if that doesn't get changed it's you know this has to say what's
Is this money already? Your mark for expenditures that are. A lot of it is.
You know what it is? I'm not sure if I'm answering your question, but then bring up if you look at this top when the ready grant and ARPA funds. So there's really nothing. And there's really nothing that can go toward the ARPA funds anymore than 56,000.
I mean, I don't know that anything would have to go towards our plan. We still have some money in our own interest. But it's an edit plan.
We're getting money to Hancock.
It was the right day.
Are they able to be extended in 2000? Or have they already earmarked that? In the plan, let me. Okay, so the plan spells out what each one of these are to be spent on.
I haven't looked at it before. So it's not on top of my head what these are, what they're for. Like the rainy day is just that. It's there. You need something more to come up. So I see what you're saying with he and I. I mean, it's kind of, you know, they're both there for emergency use.
But see, I didn't know if at that point, if they use some of the money to build a new building, that's fair. That was going to get paid over time. from building Cater County funds, that kind of thing? Or is this something that council or commissioners should go back to? Is that what you mean?
It could be.
That helps out the land use and stuff. That's what I would like to know.
Sometimes, not the day after.
So, Dr. Clooney, you may take me back. Are you here for this?
I'm here for this. I don't think we changed anything on 4D. We did. We did. We did.
We did.
But I'm here for whatever we need.
I do have a question. Is that all going through IP? I believe it is. Does it print or replacement?
Are you saying through a printer? Yeah, we print. I thought they took it out a long time ago. Just gave everybody a thousand dollars.
My impression about normal placeholder was a bummer.
Right.
But doing a smaller placeholder, that's fine.
Well, looks like you spent $68 on something. You didn't make it, so I'm not sure what that was. One black shell is here.
She's right here because she doesn't know.
Yes, I paid the cop here to be outside. Yeah, I know.
Better to have it with us coming out of IT because we get reimbursed.
She said $67 software support
So, I probably, my software upgrade is DocuWare.
My bill is probably more than $5,000, so I'd probably be a part of that.
It's a fun that we put together years ago that looks taking added time and sticking that out ahead of time.
that. And whenever we wanted to have a project like school, maybe or whatever it might have been back then, we would have had money to pay for that upfront rather than have to go reach out to portals. It's kind of looking at
I do have some things I can set up here.
I really do.
And if I can again, also. Oh, it doesn't. Didn't you say, though, they can take the stuff out? That's, you know, that needs to continue. Tourism.
Okay. We discussed this yesterday. We're paying the whole thing for the fortune events sale, correct? That's up to California. We want to up that budget to $50,000, $75,000, and then $25,000 goes out of the commissioner's, was it in the commissioner's budget? Yes. I just want to make sure that they're all worth it. Well, I was like, Hey, that first year. think after the first year we don't work after the first year we probably wouldn't spend the money i think it's i think it should pay its own way budget bill money a lot of that
And that sort of thing will be a lot more.
That will be. But in addition. But then something to consider on the other side.
You got you got both house dollars really. And if you run out, is that a first board decision?
But it'd be a little bit additional. They bring an additional threat. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. which it is in one balance. It can't be transferred from somewhere within our budget.
It can increase. I mean, I do think that we could have a larger budget. I think it would have been around, you know, last year, what you guys want it to be. We have a bad year. You know, I
But on the horizon, it probably should matter. Is it possible to hire this version of the contract? Contract somebody and you can't get on the table. I mean, Ernie, that's when you think about. Paying somebody $50,000, as I said, like yesterday, that you might need a retired person that likes to get out and food and travel and all that, those type of skills, maybe a little bit at home time, stay at home for breakfast. If you can partner with another organization, whether it be Rush Cannon or Volume Cannon, whatever. Yeah, yeah, but you would contract with them. Or if you do one, you're 75,000. Somebody else is 75,000. You hire some kid to ask first if they can do this before. You end up keeping those benefits going. So I don't know if that's ever looked at at all or if that expands your pool.
Basically, legally, you're in the state or county. That's the general thing.
Yeah.
so with that being said you just put it in the parks department column then or the commissioner's column to open that door so yeah
thing. I talked about the region. That's what I felt all the way to whatever. So from that standpoint, definitely a regional thing. Also, I know it's like part of our creation. Talk about this, you know, lots of gold, diamonds, tournament, that is also that regional another thing. So no matter what, there's a regional aspect to it, but specifically in the fact that there are hotels, there are
You know, honestly, Ripley County and L.A. County benefit from our efforts, particularly for bald eyes. Correct.
Just let it be known that we have that. Although, and I'll say it again, I'm all the time here. Just let that. You don't have a lot of leakage. I do. We have a lot of leakage. There are people in the state, there's a lot of people that all they do is tell
regions and areas.
And for people, they know what there is out there, how it would fit, that sort of thing. I don't want to belabor this at all, necessarily though.
Whenever we get to you, can we take $8,000 out of your budget and replace it with this $8,000, or do you have a specific plan for that $8,000 grant?
Yeah, we use that for fireworks, part of that. Okay. $8,000. The other $3,000 we have, we use for other marketing expenses. It's the grant that Michael has created.
Yeah.
And I just want to just reiterate that the parks budget is property tax money coming in from taxes. Tourism budget is directly from tourism and keepers. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to make sure that that's.
I have no problem putting $75,000 in the budget. I can do a step down then to I did.
See what happens, because I think how much is in there, Kenny? $346,000 in there now. But the beginning balance of $345,000 took it too great to see.
It was just going to buy these two and start taking any of these boards back. Really?
Yeah. So the marketing director, she works inside on computer marketing. This person will go out. Try to settle on. Like go out. Hopefully. You have one. It's a terrible.
Great. No.
At least for one year. I'll give it one year. I think it's sustained.
Don't make more than the record.
No, $50,000, $25,000 to pay first. Okay. Insurance, they need it. That make sense?
The salary is not $50,000 or it is? Salary.
50,000. 50,000.
50,000. 50,000.
then you have to figure in type in person pictures
I wish that this was.
In red.
Look.
I suppose that 785,000 or 360. Blacked out somewhere. Jim's not here. He said Lester was special. operating supplies and personal was there
Yeah.
Yeah. 75,000 ones. Right.
I guess in close.
You're supposed to take 364 out. That's how easy. 114,000. Yeah. Good cat. I'm pretty much good with that. And yes. And yes. We may not really need to
the hardware, the computers, things that we took out, because we're already budgeting 75-ish. Absolutely.
What was that? What was that? NXO is in. I'm sorry, what was it, Anna?
I don't know if I can remember it. What?
That's the cover. Yeah, that's the cover.
That's right. This is the one.
Earlier, I thought we were talking about the GIS budget. Yeah.
Push this up.
What?
Abby, is that, has all been paid, do you think, now?
So, the top entry was 25,000 times from QCAP and 25 times from GIS. But more was taken from QCAP this year because they're It's an area plan play that was taken from GIS that should not have, but we're having trouble like where. So that it could balance itself all out to where we're not over this year. We just need to figure out where the area plan is.
Well. I didn't see you over the over part of it. And give that. It's all going. Is it all the grant money? You gotta tell me.
Did they say something about he could put some of them back on the grant?
I think he knows it's totally up to him. He said he could increase it by 70%. I'm pretty sure that the conversation was
they were doing really well with the self-sustaining before they kind of re-raised themselves
Great. Well. That's great.
I mean, when I got this. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that's awesome.
Thank you.
Oh, but you put up almost. 100,000 dollar bill.
Yeah.
We'll get some of that. Thank you. It's just it's chill.
Have a way to check where. And I would say, no, it's true, though.
Oh, no, please, please. I'm like, here it is.
I was on the first page.
I did it on the second page.
Well, if you remember, right, he said they're mainly concerned about keeping their people.
Yes. All the zeros are not keeping people.
What are you saying?
Check him out. They said they wanted to keep their people.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, you might have to scale back to get back in that.
You take steps now, so it's not. It doesn't.
Did transfers have a cost? So there's broad transfer now. Changed all the under the extended.
Make way.
Someone on the area.
I think he's also a survivor of his family.
He's environmental health. He really did that, didn't he?
I know you've got a director, a health officer, a population manager, a health assistant, a sanitary, and a nurse assistant. I don't know. I don't know.
I think that's that's brilliant. I think there's somebody keep track of the grads.
Yeah, they have somebody now. I bet she's just coming out of part time.
She's contract, so she's not even on tape. So she must be. Right now she's just.
Right, she was contracted to grant.
She contracted to grant. Now she wants to contract to be granted.
Not contract, wants to pay through payroll.
Check it out.
$10,000 in cash. Of a health assistant. All these additional people. Yeah. Or who are getting paid out of the company.
What do they need to run that? The director, the health officer?
nurses sanitary sanitation director which i don't know
I'm sure they're having right there.
It was three people. Worded to us.
Alicia and Navi at the Environmental Health Committee.
She's sanitation and environmental, but she's always been in online. Yeah, she's okay. I'm a health assistant. That's been tutored. Yeah. And operations manager. That had to be tutored. That's it. I wasn't taking him out, Ernie.
That's the only way you're going to get to it.
That's the only way you're going to get to it. That's the only way you're going to get to it. You've got operations, man. You've got to direct them.
Is director not director of operations? Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with director of operations. 10-5-21.
We need to have evidence later. Yeah, we'll take it.
It would have been brilliant. only concerns with striking the positions i'm not saying we shouldn't strike any but i don't know that just because they were grant funded before doesn't mean they weren't is it better to say we can allot instead of us getting descriptions and deciding.
Why didn't they put down what they'd like to do?
For me, I think we're just talking about $10,000, $7,000, $8,000, $30,000, $60,000, $25,000. I'm talking about the position. However, he builds his team That's excellent. Right. Sure. I mean, I was a little confused at the time.
is funded for next year did i do that right yeah he's way understood he's funded for next year but he's looking towards yeah so he's looking at the first position based on that that's not how it works
So he's added positions through the last several years since he's had this Healthy First grant. And you guys always say once the grant is gone. So we can look back through the minutes and see which jobs he's added.
So if that's what we're doing, we've got two from the shelter, four from health, and one from areas.
are we and they're done are we going to set all of them so the grants out the only time we we haven't put that right well because we have the top half of the pages yeah three this is the first one that we talked about three of them
Well, in terms of parking, parking now is great. Correct. Really great. Salaries plus food, plus probably group insurance and parking.
Okay.
Yeah. I paid for us to get to our numbers and then have them like don't have to adjust. Yeah, that's the only thing.
Yeah, we all separate. True. Yeah.
We got
to bring him in was pretty good but i'm looking at what i've got dollars down here zero from last year i would have rather him look in there this is something that he needs
I didn't know what they were making before then. I was supposed to know what they were making. We can look that up. We can look that up.
we don't do something that would
Salary.
Salary.
Salary. Salary. Salary. Salary.
Salary.
And without that loop.
So, one to 24.
So, how do I have to detect it? How is that? Oh, are you sure? Provide to us. It must have.
Okay, go ahead.
One nurse.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and fancy. Yeah, that's awesome. That's all right. Hey, there is still there. Oh, yeah.
That's all right.
That's all right. That's all right. That's all right.
It's two, three, 10,000. Three out.
It's 121,000.
Read it one there before that.
It was part-time. How much was this, the record?
Five. Okay. All right.
Right.
Yeah.
Right. Okay. So.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll call him back next month and have him take it over because we really have to put the cure in a second.
He can't be shipped. He can't be shipped on a $30,000 pipe and all that. That's crazy. He was getting 55s. they made over people's bodies it's an explanation on this yeah i mean that's my maybe thinking next month during a public hearing yeah we don't submit until
No, uh, this one is just working and then the next one is me. Probably like right hearing. Yeah.
Yeah, indeed. Yeah, I'll look forward to this one. Guys, it is. Operate. Thank you. More tells that what they're requesting. The beginning of the sector.
here do you need another one
What makes your car like this, Aaron? Well, here.
And I got to say, thank you so much for having me here. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. I don't.
Yeah, OK, so. No.
So I don't. It's. Only here.
Yes. Spirit. 26. But. I just. 70 already. I just.
If you have it.
Yeah, he's making 65. I am. Prove.
Secretary. Right. 16. 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16.
1680. Six operators. Here you go. Here's what's happening.
Hello. Here's what's happening.
We just can't go.
I didn't think about it.
He just wants you to put a pile of money on it. Like the previous one.
so and he's got two different good applying items for like just one comes out of highway harley local roads and streets 1176 which that's going to be the restricted and that's going to get restricted which is what 1176
Oh, OK. So this one point 19. I'm going to. What is? Well, yeah, that's because it's too difficult.
Yeah. That is.
Yeah, it's. Back here. That's it.
So all the.
We got one. $119,000. That's $60,000. That's $68,500. Somebody out here has made it.
I'll give it a pretty good raise.
$71,000. $71,000. $71,000. $71,000. $71,000.
Thank you for the possibility. Oh. Oh. i don't think that he's had three two three two i know there's 25 places on the spreadsheet
That's with the extra.
No, not with. I'm trying to find in the minutes here.
i think we told him already
But since then, another person.
Okay. I got it in the minutes. Just ask me to add three new positions, which will total 29, plus have two to three positions to higher commissioner's discretion. If needed.
These are commissioner minutes or counts?
Counts.
Yeah, 40 counts.
So that the motion was made at 3 down. I knew again.
So the 3 foot 29. And if you go up. Commissioners, you gotta be responsible for that.
We recommend.
hire it comes back to you figure out how it puts out this right only if only if it's failed if we recommend that's really what it comes down to yes if we felt like uh we needed these positions we would have to A few said, this is what we're looking for. This is why we want these three additions. We have to recommend that. But that's the process of how it works. We come to the council for funding. There are reasons for why the highway department would need to do more additions. So we're going to have to do more. I think that's what we're going to do.
let's not make any sense that's what i'm thinking 31 total risk
I guess. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm looking down there in the city and there ain't nothing but tombrades in this. And office supplies and bonds and insurance.
There is not very much. What budget are you in? Because he has a... Do what? MDH. What budget are you in? Because he has multiple budgets.
Well, it's got last year's.
That's what I'm asking. I'm in 1169, right? Okay. Because he has multiple budgets.
Okay. Got it.
that's what i'm saying it's it's different different yeah different categories but
Maybe he switched it.
Yeah, it's on 1176 and 1169. There's a note on 1176.
1179.
1173 will be funded by 1176. So 1176 and 1173 are considered through the state only one fund, one budget.
You're only allowed to budget one budget, but then you can move into restricted, which is 1173.
One needs to be there only.
Only growth preservation.
Anything that has to do with preserving.
So that's why we said we're budgeting it all in 1176, but we'll move 1173.
What number was that? It's 1176.
Go to 1176. 500,000 dollars. You go to 1176.
very last day very good but alexis last year she's had a million dollars and over a million dollars to start packing by jimmy's uh very last page no budget for that 2026 or seven sorry 350 and seven thousand dollars yes do what very nice page Yes, over $1,000,000 of stone aggregate by gymnast. Or. But ask me somewhere else.
What has to be on that works going to be transferred to level 73, but. That's not really saying.
Good. Go into 1169 and it'll be under 706. Location 76.
That's where I used to go on vacation.
I thought that's.
That's enough of that.
There's not very much one set, but. You see that?
That's why Mike's got zero and then.
Yeah, similar suits. Yeah, that's definitely it.
That's populated 3199. I'm sorry, I didn't tell him.
It's totally.
I'll say here's. .3300. It's a. But that's still the risk. Here.
That's maybe why you just want one soon, but. That's what it is. Say what?
What's that question? Yeah, I know. That's what I said. I figured out, too. I'll follow up.
I didn't need any supplies. Yeah, I guess.
And you need to get a little too late. I have a book of LRFs, which I will. 1.349L1. I'll have $93,000 in. On the second page.
Thank you. There's a million dollars.
Thanks.
Oh, yeah.
I got you on memory. Oh yes, see a lot of these. Nothing in 27.
It's because they bring 26 inside, but they're not 27. You're saying that. Yes, OK, so I don't know. Was Ruben still here? OK, so Ruben requested to consolidate some of them. OK, he says two counties, Hancock County, Rush County. He requests all their format, OK? That's what we did. I took his lead.
Where'd it go?
They consolidated. So he took it, had his take. So, I mean, usually I try to give more detail. Bottom line, I see exactly what it was going for, what it was budgeted for. Really requested we not do that. Solidate these, this, that, that. So we did it upon his recommendation. i can i can i can get you a spreadsheet and show what i saw made into it yes i can do that i can email it it will show i think these saw these eight things in this one i've got that in the spreadsheet yes you don't know where they are like you don't know where that ended up no yep yeah which is asphalt yeah i think they're hitting up back here with a like i said i can tell you because like i said i took the spreadsheet and kept track of what we what i put together so i can do that you know stones and mixed aggregates you have one one million right hundred thousand these don't have whatnot so if they're in there right got roman proof it's half million yep capital construction five steps Yeah, and and one of the big things they also I don't like this latest state does is we do chips. We're doing preventive maintenance. That is considered the traction service professional service and not a capital group. You will lay a real black on that. So that capital approved. I hate that they make us put cheap as the only professional service contractor services and not in a Catholic. I mean, I don't like that's with it.
Good. Just that recommendation, that $1.3 million out of your local roads and streets, $593,000.
That's probably right. We're going to stay within what money we bring in. But we're setting $8.6 million excess. And when Baker Tilley did the deal with the commissioners, they were saying, you need to spend that. You should not have that much excess in there. So that's what we talked about earlier this year about the equipment. going to put an extra million dollars towards putting on dump trucks and stuff so yes it's going to be a million dollars over budget what we're bringing in because we're spending that on that equipment part of that 8.6 million dollar excess is where that's the other half million it's just you never spend every dollar budget it's just the way it works out so yes okay how about your salary yes so salary yes uh it is and i'll be honest with you we're that much connected so let's take so let's i mean so wait uh and here's reporting the steps they come out with 30 year old wood county hockey okay and they paint what they pay them that classification So. I don't have any names. We got one $32.00. You are in the last years. OK, he's a class three local trade. We is OK. We have local trades, five and six forms like a $24.25. I like $10 under him and there are two pay grades, three pay grades above. OK, how we department got that salaries first review all that it kills. you take the executives let's take superintendent you take all the other executive ones i'm like 47 last year this year's okay we're like 16 under the average and i don't know if it's because somebody's highway department haven't brought it up you know in the past i don't know why she just looked back through the salary classification this year go ex1 see what we're paying all the other x1s see what we're paying highway I mean, we do that for the rest. It really does fall out. And that's just what the care captain does. Whenever we took a look at the numbers, it just so happened Jackson County was a county like us. Their numbers lined up. That's why we were there. Say, hey, there's another county paying this. Basically saying to us, they have dedicated bridge crews just like us. They do a lot like us. So because we have their salary, it's very easy to prove what they're paying and how they set theirs up. So, like I said, the numbers fell right in line with local trades three, what we should be paying for interest. If you look at trades four, like I said, our guys are way underpaid. I'll be very honest with you, the superintendent position, here's what I mean, I'll be very honest with you. That's how our department ended about a year ago. Took that salary, added 3%. That's how I got it. And that one there is actually EX1 position. This one is actually EX2 position. This is actually that one.
I have more questions.
and i mean i could go ahead and you know yes one two three fours of the county books trades i said we're paying we're paying guys paying local trade for trees more than they're paying mechanics shooting my foreman's that all got messed up with the salary yes And I mean we took our. We got chances to work so out. You know I just can't.
Hey, you got a couple. And I'm pretty good with salaries that is different. You got a couple local 33 said 51.
Yes, they are operating.
Yes. So you would have got.
age that are healthy that are 47 pounds yep but are we talking about the same thing the value of an operator great road or part of dozer or whatever that has to be or value points
down the road you know you take it you take a truck driver's been there 15 years those way around the county different routes you take a greater operator just fire maybe not cloud snow yes probably a different skill set right so usually usually operators
How do I get my head around what you said about LTC3, local trade threes, making more money than- Let's take that off.
Let's take that off earlier. You saw today. And then let's go to road forms. Three road forms, two road forms.
LTC6. Yep.
All right. So you look, there's one set difference between one road form.
One road, I'm assuming.
Yes, yes.
That's what happened.
That's what got so far out. You see what I'm saying?
We're only setting one cent difference, and we're setting three classifications. That's where the problem originated, and it just compounds.
And I don't know, but I think I can pick one 938, and I might. Yeah.
operator i don't know that oh you're that operator you need to leave that job with home i mean there you go you're not getting called out all hours not getting people out of bed and getting them to go and yeah you're not doing paperwork and you're not doing all the other stuff that comes with being a supervised performance but that's a very good example you can see how things go
So you got, how many forms do you have?
Three. I got one bridge form and two road forms. Well, maybe I got all forms under.
You got bridge form and you got two forms.
We'll be paying these guys another $25,000 a year in one shot.
I don't understand how you think we can sustain that.
You're sustaining other positions.
$25,000 additional in one year.
You're making more than you.
Yes, you're paying positions to TC3s more than you. Now.
I don't see why you're doing that.
Don't you see three? All right. 54. 54. It's wrong. 13. Yeah. Yeah. I'd say he'd make a 13 and a half section.
That's what he's doing.
He's doing that again. He's not. Why is that? I'm breaking it. He's still going to finish it. But it's the same. It's LTC4. He's LTC4. Still in the class.
Three years ago, it wasn't out now. No, it started out. I don't know.
I'll try not to. Right here.
Yeah.
Because if you feel you're having to do it. Yep. Then you drop down to what we operators, you know. It's four hours. No, not right now. That's within the salary.
Suppose that we decide to cut that. You notice there's not like 10 different positions. Now I'm talking about scans. Right. So we're talking about like LTC one through six. You know what I mean? Instead of doing four different truck drivers, four different operators, instead of doing all that, it's both through the slaters and trades one through six.
I know we went years back. We went through.
Yes. Yes. It seemed to work.
The study showed this.
Thomas Sowers.
under check or they would be under ABC look I'm giving them a $20,000 increase also is that the max that's on the max I mean here's the thing there's nobody I don't know what's max yeah nobody should be at max but then so when i put the budget i put the budget in that match i'm going to pay i mean yes but i put the budget into the match yes because of the simple fact i picked the budget to the minimum but i mean do i understand this is not yes i do but i also understand i mean I know.
I know.
I know. And that's the reason I tried to do our homework back actually, numbers of things, not to say we want this. We tried to come in here's what's justified.
But we're 10 hour days.
what did i mean i say that you know anything about i'm sorry i'm working for us you know and though i'm just saying for them i think it does but the reason it got screwed that was the reason the county went because there's such a thing yeah i think it's a benefit That's how it'd be great. I mean, it's the concept. Yes. So yeah, that's one of them is when we're going for the boys within the corporation. And and I do want to. We go in this direction. There's gonna have to be some HR students get everybody where they need to be at in this game, but they need to be where they need to be where they're at. Not just the college. and the other reason why i like that is because the employee wants to move up he needs to know what he has to do to improve to be able to move up or try to figure it out yeah obviously our but our salary nobody can tell you we couldn't tell you nobody tell you what the starting penny was I'm just saying, I mean, that's how screwed up this thing was. We couldn't even do what he was supposed to do. Nobody.
Any more questions? Okay. Well, let's make some decisions here. Thank you. Good luck salaries here and there.
You are wanting to hire a new. One new position, right? Yes, that's not the. Combined position with the tourism. Yeah, this is different.
He's got 20,000 out. Well, 19, well, it's 20,000. A sports complex, is that correct, Curtis? Yeah.
I'd like this to reset.
Think how much this is overkill and cool.
There's water. Keep that water going.
No, I'm not. I'm not saying you understand where I'm at. And I know you don't. No, I don't know.
We had food.
It was a $20,000 to $40,000 a year deficit. Does that make sense? That's right. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah, I mean, this is sort of
I do think I mean, you look at so like full building structure built in there. Right? So you're hoping nothing's gonna don't know. And that's the one thing there's something unknown with this. I truly don't know. I wish I could answer for you guys. This is probably probably just wait a
here to see where you're at. I haven't got two salaries. I just want to say hello. Hello.
Well, I think once we get some updates on the check and catch out. Doesn't go over.
Which is what it costs. Chris, when you're when you're looking at 37 on one, which is marketing.
$1000 50,000. You cut that back to 5000 with. tourist ability to help with marketing and their ability to help find money for them. There was you said i mean honestly rick a lot of that and it is i don't um but a lot of that stuff is stuff we're providing would have been a great time to have them that's kind of fun that's got us parks department cath line item 30 71 15 000. 37 0701
And so one thing I'll ask you guys are aware of this here is the Burger Club is trying to raise money to add inclusion based on that department. dumps more responsibility onto us as accountants to take care of them and maintain them. That's another thing. Oh, wow.
Fantastic support that. Situation so. That's been talked about in other places. So yeah, people are aware.
I don't want to do anything. It's beautiful.
It's great.
It's fantastic. Mission to apartment, but it's zero maintenance dollars for Chris and his crew to go out there to care. That's that's some things that I I think look at is it's a baseball that part now we have no way to fund it no way to make it no way to there's no dollars there so i agree with what you're saying you have to figure that out he's putting money back now for the sports complex place those the turf that's going to happen
Their membership means phoning out $1,000 a year. I know what Mike had said with Rotary. He said they were going to try and fundraise as much as possible, and then the additional money they were going to give us for maintenance.
So what that looks like, you know, that's what he said.
I would tell you, Bruce, just like Brendan told me that he had plenty of money to maintain that park, and that's how he was raising money. Before you start a show with us, After contracts, they're going to be in charge of maintenance. Hold them to the fire. It's like rotary. Rotary's going to put that ball down there and whatever needs to be maintained. And it's half a time, half a time, half a time. We get dumped on, parts public is dumped on. Projections are great, but now they've got to take care of it. And we can't sustain that.
The pool that was built, put the cattle in that pool. It's fine. It's fine.
I mean, I'm not saying it's not, but can't just give it to the parks department to maintain it.
The playground still got money.
I don't think so. I don't think there ever was. Greg had told me that he had, he had, I don't know. I think there is, I can check on that.
It must be a foundation. They can't accept that.
So say, yeah, sure. And that's a busy, they're not going to take care of it.
Yeah, so somebody's got to have this building and structures. Our playground structure that
No, it's the parks, but they have their public housing.
So if he cuts 44, 104, 42, that doesn't help us on it. So I understand the playground. I like the idea. that is as far as if you look at every single one of our partners you know westport now has kind of transitioned they've got their own park board now um so they're doing their their own things um you know that that would be the one and most dire um without it's not
Yeah, I'm sure.
Yeah.
They don't have to be extracted. They start fairly simple. Yeah, your warranty on those is $25.
$25. Yeah. Okay.
Guys look into. I looked at it for us.
I just don't think we turn over vehicles as much as these guys do, so it didn't make sense. We were going to pay miles on exactly. Yeah.
I want to say that. I would like one.
Only one item in parts.
But yeah.
It says you can hear. I know. Thank you. Thank you. That is fine.
That is fine.
I don't see anything in there.
It looks to be out of black at all.
Then what?
Actually, the department's out there for the last time.
Statewide? It's for the last time. Statewide. Are you sure?
Well, I can say like on that budget. Guys have been making comments like your. Like what their goal is at first pay versus like what your salary pay and stuff is.
I didn't.
Like you're doing comparison to that. That's the only thing that we didn't do like anything There's 5000.
Well, this is not This is all different. He watched one.
In church.
But then a little bit.
insurance what now a little bit we're hoping um i did just because we have such a good i mean i'll say that you know two people Thanks. But in the past, we have budgeted the past three or four years budget max to get our reserves built up and we're up where we want it to be.
I think that's good.
Yeah, it's good.
100.2% since inception. Just like to remind it.
i'm still four in the department let's find out everybody else is about this but if i me and the city made time you know you're okay okay i don't know what we're doing that's like you don't want to give up on it good you don't want to do it i guess just laughing smiling all the time
They're having a pretty good situation with IT. I know other counties that would die to have IT.
Fairgrounds. And. You had.
50,000 in here for part time.
That was. 40,000 that comes out. 30,000 of that will come out. Yes. And we've got to get back. Sure is.
What's a professional? I'm trying to remember.
Brian, what's the best one? Things that you have in there.
Oh, yeah. You know, the cage.
For the fairgrounds and for the fairgrounds. For the sled.
All the different events.
Midget, all those things, that's professional service. Way to go, Brian.
One for 15 and one for 16. So the bottom 807 is fair and the top is fairgrounds.
The bottom is fair. The bottom is fair. The bottom is fair. The bottom is fair. The bottom is fair. The bottom is fair. The bottom is fair. The bottom is fair. Must be some kind of professional service.
that is that is part of that is that's probably there anything better than that probably that's for things like people goes there like travel shows the entertainment systems all the things that come in cleaning the community buildings been one of them yes all right
Yeah, I don't know what equipment. Did that new mower come out of the house?
No, it's out of the house. I think that was put in to rent. If you want to rent that building, that equipment.
Oh, okay. The casters.
The casters. It's right out there in there. Skid loaders or something like that.
River bow. Thank you for it. I'm sorry.
He's still on mute.
There's not even a budget.
No, I interviewed a paper yesterday that had her throat. I've got that. Yeah. You had to wait on it. Got it. Yeah. And hold on to it.
According to the, we never heard anything from the public center. Yeah. Isn't that the Cato County one? Yeah, that's the adult. Good.
And I say letters out and emails out for the champion.
Never really.
Yeah, totally.
There's nothing in the budget.
Well, well, I love the absence.
of utility costs of 1k but that probably is 20. uh number actually well here's the request time here for 20k letter they said okay 17 000 left in spring vote time 67 ends up in 84
We'll spend it all on thousand piece. You want to spend? Keep $4,000 in there. That's $8,898 that much lesser.
I just figured they need that.
okay dan i don't know if this makes a damn bit of a difference but catch a ride champion to you children's advocacy pretty sure yellowstone new directions uh bread alive United Fund as well. I don't know if that would have any impact on the 4-H Fair Council. Should we give them what they requested? Because they don't get funding from the other.
Should we give them all of them?
And then the other date can And Catch a Ride, I mean, I stay in our father's family every time I see somebody trying to walk across that bypass. So Catch a Ride, I think that's a great job. And if they have the same amount of money, I won't name any names, but some others, I think it's an easy button. I would like to think about it. the conversation given catcher ride 10 grand children's advocacy 10 grand and 4-h council 10 grand and if we want to split up the rest evenly that would be great i'd like to see what 4-h council has because we have premier ag has offered money I think 10,000. We get like 175,000 4H. They have not applied till this year. You call my daughter. She knows I talked to her. She should apply. She already has. I've talked to her. That's the reason they applied. I've talked to Cody, too. So, yeah, I told you. I would not.
New Directions got the... They don't get united. They sure used to. We haven't for years because of the blackout period.
So that's a decision on you guys' part then to fundraise outside of the blackout period. So that's why you don't get money.
because you can't fundraise during the backflip.
I understand that, yeah.
And our number is domestic violence awareness month, which is one of the two major ones that you can't fundraise for. We were getting, I think, somewhere between $6,000 and $8,000 from the United Fund. And then we built that into the program.
If you can make more money than that, do it. And that's what we did.
We gave the funding up to the other organizations because we had it built and we broke up. Just the one that was lost.
I'm not picking on your direction.
No, I'm just saying. They're not getting that funding right now. Yeah.
Yeah.
that door he wants to give equally uh i just i just think that's easier but they want to do it yeah split it all up but yeah so we're at 130 plus and i kind of like the idea of saving our back for the fear like somebody
I mean, that leaves four of them. If you didn't leave eight of them, they'd end up five. That leaves four of them.
That's the statement. We didn't hear it by last year, Chris.
I got divided up by eight.
We continue with that 80,000 is more than what we get a year. So we've been continuing to pay more. So it's jumping into the cash.
So right now we have 17,662 balance.
We get anywhere between 65 and 67,000 a year. They'll come in November.
Here.
Straight across. But remember, there's not.
That leaves a little bit for the next one in country.
We always end up in strike. That's fine. OK.
I was free to see it. Really, that's just all very well.
Okay, get to the
about the city building and then a little is going to be done at the end of the year and ready and put the tables on everything the money they're talking about you know for the sales position is there any way to I just want to bring it up.
We just had a discussion on what the marketing sales director's ability is. That is currently the game. He's going to show that.
You would. I think it'd be a fact. Are we
Chris, make sure the tables and chairs are ready for that next event.
And we've always thought somebody would, as Ben said, trash, make sure you've got trash bags, toilet papers, everything's ready to go for that next event. It's that part of it. And we'll need job description. That's weekends. That's a lot of time. And it says volunteering.
Can we discuss that later? Yes, absolutely. And we can talk to Jake or you can talk to Jake. Yeah, it's just something that got to you.
Yeah, a little more needs to go on as we're in all that building.
Something. Oh, yeah.
That's 1,000,008 of the 2. That is wet. For the base salaries, but just anybody over. Hey. Yeah, we probably.
All right here. Yeah.
everybody at base that was done over over base is just at their right now i have done
How many? How many?
How many more? I will say though.
Change the share. I did change share.
How many were added? I don't know. I think it was overbaked. Yeah, overbaked. Overbaked. Yeah, add or over. Add or over.
How many employees do we have total?
250. Not full-time. Oh, no, it's full-time. Yeah.
You said it so confidently. What?
Roughly 180 full-time, so 120, 130 are under.
Is this column, like, 30? Yeah, I don't know. 2027. I thought it was 2027.
Yeah, there I am. Yeah.
We take everybody to base. Dan, you're saying that that's a hill we can climb?
Right there. 13-8. Yeah, and there's still some transport.
And so then, do we want a number just to go around? hill i mean certainly the average salary i don't know what is the average out this year 50 or 60 years i know it's been making around about three percent so that would be fifty hundred dollars start on the lowest i thought um what does that mean to get everybody at three percent No, give everybody a thousand.
Everybody wants to go for me.
I think it's just the same discussion. What about it? Because it's just the same discussion. What about everybody?
Because you've got people that are getting up to $8,000 to $10,000.
I get that.
I get that.
Like I said, it's just discussion.
I mean, you're looking at $180,000.
could be winners and losers until it gets to where it needs to get to.
So my only concern is that where do we, what do we pay? That's where we've been for the last couple of years.
Don't we have to have that discussion?
Sorry.
But don't we have to have that discussion?
But that's higher. If we only pay people everybody $1,000, give everybody a $1,000 raise, the high grants and base pay are going to be making more money than everybody now. So you're saying take everybody's base.
Take everybody up to the base. On top of it. Take everybody up to the base. And add $1,000 to it. That's the raise. That's the raise.
Okay, Rick, so let me follow up. So everybody that's under base gets brought up to base, and then anybody that's over base gets $1,000.
So that's what we have to chew on and go through the numbers and see if that's cool. I don't know, to your point, what do you hire?
Okay, but the salary study, and I don't want to me right now and say, what's the point of $1,000 over base?
Just a number for discussion.
Okay.
It's all events.
Like right now, we've got like majority of elected officials are $6,000 to $8,000 under. These are all $12,000, $85,000, $13,000, you know, $13,000, $50,000. the numbers are all over the place on what people are fun and maybe i'm not completely understanding what so if you're under base right yep plus we don't get like this let's not get the longevity like if we've been in the same office no that was just that was just what they did at one time that's not anything that would be not saying
Well, it's kind of confusing. It's as far as which was Curt when she's doing shower study and which was I thought it was that was just one time. Okay. The rest of just about crispy. Okay. If you've already taken quite a face.
What do you do with the ones that are making over?
That's the question. I think somebody has gone now. Ashley talked about that stipend. You give them a one-time stipend. Where does it continue to keep growing, increasing their salary of either 3% or 1,000?
There was conversations about cost of living and staffing and everything. i think our employees deserve a red it's not a site they shouldn't get a one-time site
that our most valuable resource we have is our employees. They should be taken care of with it. And I know it's hard for you guys because you're trying to balance this, right?
It's got to come.
I'm not saying frustration, but if the base pay weren't received, because the base pay is everywhere. We have interviewed people for the highway department, whatever, How much do you pay? You ask Patty, she says, I don't know. We don't even have a base pay. That's ridiculous to say you don't know what a job pays. How do you employ somebody when you can't tell them what they're going to pay?
That's what we're working.
I get it. So we've got to get that base pay down. And I think our employees should deserve a raise and not a one-time stipend. And if I mine a stipend, it's $1,000 and then you're done. So I'm going to wrap my head around a stipend. I guess I don't like that term. I would rather see a raise versus a stipend. But it's 1%, 2%, 3%.
So if they're already making $5,000 more than what the base pay is, they still deserve that raise?
Yes. And they should not be penalized for that. Who put them at that salary? Maybe because the qualifications they had and hired them in?
Not back then, it wasn't, no.
I don't know. I don't think... So you're going to say he's done his job three, four, five years and he didn't get his pay. You're going to say, okay, you're going to lower your pay because you're way over what WIS, Blackburn, Chile said you should pay. I don't know if that's... I don't think so. I don't think you take pay for science. We have to take pay. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think But it is exciting to me. Consideration for those boys have been here can 15 years as well.
But that's the next.
maybe not everybody heard this, that's maybe the next thing for maybe next year if we can't, but WIS was new hire, base, and then three, five, and 10 years. So in order to get everybody where they should be after the three, five, and 10, it was almost five minutes. So we were thinking instead of doing that in one jump, just work on getting everybody to base and then anybody over gets this one-time stipend, knowing that next year, that revised 10-year mark is going to be looked at. Does that make, does that sound like what you're saying?
But there's no guarantee that 3% or 5% is going to be looked at?
There's not.
It's helpful to think that people that have been way under, I think, get paid, because the others that have worked this over have to make it. you also you know kind of considered the one year that money was kind of a nice bonus but to that point is that where his stipend needs to go is
so equally they just uh that's what it is So let's go on, let's go on with studies.
What can we do?
So, study, I sense that what I said, that go counter with studies. If you want to use the layout and get
taken us five years to get this far first year what young people how was that first year really get about half percent longevity that was very nice in the first year but it is that is what i put good things perspective on some of these or you've got some that's really on the bench of three or four thousand dollars there's not that many but there's a few and that longevity is what that we did was what what did that and that could be corrected with some of the once you look at i'm going to hear some certain things but that's not the extent that work exists
What if you spread this out over? You got to talk about it. Put a limit on what we spend this year to bring it to that next $6,000. And hopefully it's worth it.
And what I've been hearing from the table is the last three year plan made it worse and wasn't working. So if we try that again, we're doing the same thing over and over again. We already did that. We did that like three years ago.
Yeah, we did. We did it pretty long ago.
So I'm not going to say that again. That's what compounded luck You may have somebody down low, maybe $6,000 or $7,000 per base. So all of a sudden, they got a 15% raise. Guys at the top above that, about 3%. You do that two or three years, and now you took all your bottom, brought them up to this $5,000, $10,000 range, and these up here got $2,000. It compounded it. That's what led to a lot of these problems, was trying to just bring back the base, you know what I mean, and not keep the uppers going up also.
My concern too, even from this, it's still only, which I'm all for my people and making sure that they're taken care of and not so much like even on mine, but still I'm only hearing up to 10 years, but you're, you know, you're not taking care of the ones that are 10 years plus either. And that longevity is important for those people that are saying they're 10 years plus as well. You know, that's another thing to recognize.
And I don't know, back to full and stuff you would have masters you'd have bachelors and 10 matches 15 16 and so on so that's the bracket you fell into wage scale where you skipped over to masters and xyc nothing really that says you can create once we get this thing figured out a deal like that where you have ceo acronym and and 30 you know something might only be 200 dollars we would get everybody to the place where they need it based on whatever then if they gave it three years
the lower ends up to where that thing's at. That's how it got out of kilter.
But you also, when you were giving, when you had people that were where they should have been, you were giving them raises versus raises. But then you had other people who weren't where they should have been. You were only giving them either the higher of the salary study increase or the 3% raise. So you've got all these people that are raising up and these people that are not even where they should have been, only raising up and these people are getting higher. The only other thing I was going to say is when I go next all around, like around the town is they are already getting paid for the next year. And if you guys get the salary setting now, that would be like the current payers, right? Whether it's paid now. And if you're getting to the base of somebody that's already exceeding, and you're just doing $1,000 stipend, that's still just the current value of $1,000 because they're going to get the break-up option and we're going to be back down.
follow up. There's just something to think about on that.
Well, when you're done, what we got right this moment, you got to always be ready for $500,000 over what we're going to spend.
I don't know, but I was pretty excited to see the number was so close today, everybody at the base. I thought that was great.
I mean, you've got to understand, too, that that's all we're able to do.
And that's all we're able to do. Again, $1,000. We can't get to this point.
We would love to have the county highway guys, $20,000. Somebody ought to pay for that.
In the same token, we've got to get to what the initial thing was. So then you get a 3% raise. It corresponds to where they're at. That's where it needs to get to.
The issue is, and that's what we're struggling trying to do that, but we're also aware that some people aren't going to get to places that they need to be, and we don't have that. But we only got that money to do it.
It's hard. really eager. It's going to be the last year of the 3%. Can we set it up first year and then it's going to be two more years at 3%. This really should be the last year of the 3%.
I figured they were supposed to start the study back then.
This introduced new numbers.
And we have 435 roughly 1,000 of this
is for that extra pay. But you know, we're. Is it from? I don't feel like it's from. From that. So we're going to. All right, because we're.
Maybe. We've got a complex question.
because that's reported you know here's the thing because if i wonder i wonder if we've been actually if we haven't realized that four and a half years because with this with the remarks that he made about your budget I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
It's basically a little inch extra, the 27th thing.
I guess I'm curious to see, not having seen the salary study, what those day timers are for my folks compared to what I asked.
Did you know that Wagner was really provided when they read the original studies, They had a separate sheet for attorneys. I don't know if they provided that to you or if it's just a position by employee. I haven't seen the study. I'm sitting over here going, I don't know whether to be upset or be thrilled because I haven't seen the study either. I don't know how it might be.
It is. Attorneys are not separated.
So just wait. I think we need to plan to be here.
Oh, okay.
We're sure not getting that word now.
If we start going. Suggesting that you clear your calendar.
I can help.
I can help.
Thank you. We can look at that one next week.
So 2026, we were budgeted for 97, 713, and that would be for two positions. That would be for 27, 97, 27. Those were two out of three that should have still been on the year, three salaries.
So they didn't make it to the last.
Yeah.
Well, I think it
If you have a system in place, you could never get to the point where everybody would agree long enough to get it in place. That's all.
I think that's it. We're going to struggle until we get a place that works like that better. Now then, we're going to have to go to our library and see what we're all up on. I wish I could try to make that happen.
I haven't done the numbers yet, but I think it's because they were already over. What's that if we qualify for the year three salary budget? It's a tough one.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
next week 37 30 gone i could be here part of the day let's go 31st and monday 31st i gotta be here Bill, you're going for it.
Why is that of course? Why say sports?
And it's but this room.
Just for an hour, roughly hour and a half, probably 10 to 11.
You'll be. 1 o'clock or after lunch. 26th, 1 o'clock. I'll do that. Yeah.
I'd have to be gone for an appointment at 3.
That early?
I don't leave 1 to 2 in the morning. 1 to 6. 1 to 6 Wednesday. Wednesday. Friday too soon or I can do 24.
Okay. Yeah, you have that. After 9?
48 hours. How long are you going to be here? Good morning. How long are you?
Friday.
Well, I could do it from Sunday.
Friday morning.
This part of this Friday?
Hours from May. Oh, the 21st? Yeah.
That'd be time to get all the information you need to get.
I can be here by 1. 31st. That's fine. You'll do it after me.
I don't know. Right after that, 1 o'clock.
31st.
In the meantime, what are we expecting to happen? Are we sending this out to get feedback, or is the spreadsheet staying with us?
I don't know. Everybody should see it. And the breakdown. And the breakdown.
Bye, sir.
This is really good. Yeah, that's really. You should have. Anything you want to see me do? Any numbers protected?
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