City Council - Regular Meeting

It's 5.30. The invocation this evening will be by Bill, and then we'll follow that with the Pledge of Allegiance.

Thank you. If you'd pray with me. Heavenly Father, we come before you tonight with grateful hearts. We thank you, Lord, for this great city of Fergus Falls. We thank you for how you've blessed this city, and we ask for your blessing on into the future. And Lord, we pray for those in need now tonight. You know what the needs are around us, and we just pray that you would meet the needs within this community, Lord. And Father, we pray for our meeting tonight. We pray for wisdom for our council members, for us as staff. And yeah, we just invite you into our meeting here tonight. We pray this in Jesus' name.

Amen.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

I will call this meeting to order. Roll call, please.

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We have a quorum. The first item on the agenda is an open forum, a time to address items of city business that are not on this evening's agenda. I know we do have somebody that wants to speak and they're running a little late because they're at a soccer practice and they wanted to say about Santa's summer splash and thank the city. So when he comes in, maybe we can slot him in. With that...

I think Duane wants to talk.

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Mayor, council members, Dwayne Cookman live in Fergus Falls. My question is, is there going to be another review for the housing from the correlation from the 2026 survey you just had or report you just had versus the last one that for 2014? Is there going to be a comparison in that or is just what we have for 2026 and going forward?

Technically, I know it was HRA that did the report. I don't think they were planning on coming back to the council with a comparison between the two.

Okay. Question to the council. Have you taken a look at the differential between the two reports? I know I haven't. Okay, 2020 or 2014, when I looked at housing versus rentals, it was like 60 to 39%. Looks like it's flipped. And the housing cost looks like it's doubled. But the reason I bring this up and it's like, could there be more incentive, you know, Renters come and go. If you have a house, you put down roots. You spend your money in the area. The money, typically the local banks will roll over that money for loans for other things. Renters, I don't know how many are locally owned, but that money goes outside the area. Could we take a look at that?

I can ask Michael at HRA. That's all I can ask. All right, thank you. Thank you. And with that, we'll move on to the agenda. We have a new item under new business. There's a lead replacement project phase one. And Council Member Cramer wants to talk about HOAs and an issue. With that, would somebody care to approve the agenda with those two additional items?

I do.

Thank you, Mark. Would somebody care to second it?

I'll second.

Thank you, Scott. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those against, same sign. Hearing none, the agenda is approved. The first item on this evening's agenda is a public hearing for the Minnesota Investment Fund loan and the grant for the expansion of SCR Solutions, Inc. And I will call upon Clara Beck, our Community Development Director. We are looking for a resolution authorizing the City Administrator and Mayor to apply on behalf of the city for a Minnesota Investment Fund loan for the benefit of SCR Solutions, Inc. With that, over to Clara.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is a public hearing tonight as required by Minnesota State statute to allow anyone from the public to comment on an application to the Minnesota Investment Fund to support an incentive stack for SCR Solutions and their expansion. The notification has gone out under several different business names because the business itself is operating under a few different names for different pieces of the growth that they're doing. So we have them all covered in our notification. The request then is that we pass a resolution that goes back to the state as part of that application package. And then the end result is that the SCR solutions package will have a $300,000 loan from the state of Minnesota. IT'S A PASS THROUGH, SO IT COMES THROUGH TO THE CITY. WE ADMINISTER IT, BUT IT IS STATE FUNDING. 200,000 OF THAT IS REGULAR LOAN, AND THEN 100,000 IS A FORGIVABLE GRANT TO THE BUSINESS. SO THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT GRANT AMOUNT AFTER THEY'VE ALREADY um expended the loan funds and then have met certain benchmarks related to hiring so i'm happy to answer any questions about the project i do have one update which is that we have finally gotten the easement removed on the piece of property that str solutions is going to be purchasing so that closing is scheduled for monday which is really exciting so you're going to start seeing some dirt moving soon and then i will open the hearing

Anybody in the audience wishes to speak to this, please step forward, state your name and where you come from.

Mayor, Council, Dwayne Cookman, Fergus Falls. Is that, let's say that loan forgiveness, the $100,000, that's over and above the TIF that you're going to give them?

Yes, it is.

Okay, thank you.

And it's coming from the state?

Yes.

Any other comments? If not, we will close the hearing. Would somebody care to make a resolution? I'll offer that. Thank you, Scott. Thank you, Jim. Does council have any questions? If not, roll call, please.

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The resolution is approved. There are no bids to award this evening. There are no petitions or communications. Moving on to the consent agenda. The first item is a motion approving the minutes from the August 3rd, 2026 City Council meeting and the August 12th, 2026 Committee of the Whole meeting. A motion approving licenses, a resolution authorizing the Mayor and City Administrator to execute a non-disclosure agreement with GFY Custom Crafts LLC. Resolution proceeding with community beautification efforts in Wright Park and accepting donations on behalf of this project. A resolution accepting a donation from Ag Country Farm Credit Services Working Hero Fund in the amount of $3,930 and adjusting the 2026 Fire Department budget. A resolution approving the submission of a Community Growth Partnership application in the amount of $5,000 for conceptual planning for the Northeast Residential Park Norgren property. A resolution declaring surplus property and authorizing its disposal. With that, would somebody care to make that resolution?

I'll offer that.

Thank you, Laurel. I'll second. Thank you. Was that Jim? Yep. Thank you, Jim. With that, roll call, please.

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The next item on the agenda is a resolution authorizing the execution of a development agreement with Wickland Properties LLC. I would make that. Thank you, Al. Would somebody care to second it? I'll second it. Thank you, Scott. Any questions? If not, roll call, please.

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yes yes yes yes yes yes the resolution is approved the next item is a resolution approving the placement of earth cam system on city property at speech river riverfront park and providing standard electricity and internet connectivity would somebody care to make that resolution so that we can have discussion on it i'll offer that Thank you, Scott. Would somebody care to second it?

I'll second.

Thank you, Jim. Any discussion on this? Laurel?

I was contacted by a member of the public, and they were wondering if it could be turned off for private events or if there is no on and off. It has to be on all the time. I'm assuming it has to be on all the time, but I'm not sure if that is true or not. And then my other question is, are we willing to put in our rental agreement for Speece Park a notification about the existence of this?

I think we talked about the rental agreement piece on Wednesday as being kind of something we could do. I don't know about the on-off.

Your Honor, I've had a few calls on this thing and a couple text messages, more than a couple I think, about this not being a good thing and whatever. So I thought I'm just going to ask Justin about it and ask him what his opinion is on it and give us a heads up on it. What do you think?

Sure. Thank you, Mayor Alderman Rachel. Really, it is not designed to be a public safety tool. I mean, it's a tourism tool. My understanding is it doesn't record live. So I really don't see there being a bearing, you know, one way or the other. I do think that one of the questions that was kicked around last week at Committee of the Whole was, you know does somebody do something foolish on the camera in front of the camera because it's there really um you know in my 29 years of experience law enforcement experience we haven't really seen individuals do that I know it can kind of some you know come up as a concern but I wouldn't really think it's a concern here and if somebody does and somebody's watching it we're going to get called and and be floating that way anyway but it's not recorded so that's that's

I've used them for years and look at different parts of the country. So I think it's a nice thing. I just want to know what you thought of it.

Appreciate that.

Thank you. Any other questions?

Yeah, Your Honor, I appreciate it. In discussions with EarthCam, they had stated that they can turn it off, but they need some notice. You know, it's a couple, two, three days notice, and they said they could shut off the feed to it. So I don't know how feasible that is for the city to do it or not. But EarthCam also had said to me that some of the most successful cams they have are up a little higher and seeing a little broader what people are looking at. And people sit on there and work during the day and kind of watch the flow of traffic. And some of their most successful cams were when you really didn't have facial recognition of who you were looking at and you had a little higher elevated position to look at things. And so that might be something for the city to look at. I'm just a pretty hard no to anything being in the pavilion, you know, showing people that are renting our space. I just don't think it's a need in our community that you come down and pay money to be in our pavilion. You have your family, you have all of these things there, and we have the earth cam running in that area that can identify you. I just, I don't see a real need for that. I'd like to see it up higher, moved out a little ways, so that's not an issue for us in the future. I think the other thing that Mr. Layton, Council Member Layton had last time that I think was not a bad idea, too, is this might fall more into a Visit Fergus Falls or a chamber or something that is a promotional arm of the city to work with us to do some of it. So I think that's something for the council to look at, too. So I'm not against it. I just...

If it ends up in the pavilion where it's after people rent it I'm gonna have to be a hard no on it You know one thing about when you look at that it's a sidewalk view outside the pavilion not inside the prevents on the outside looking at the mill I think is what it is. So it's gonna be hard to see people anyway, but I guess it's it's Pretty good pretty cool deal

Are we voting on location as like this is the identified location? Are we voting on our willingness to pay for the electricity? Because to me, I agree with Mr. Mortensen that higher up, I think, would deal with a lot of the privacy concerns that we're hearing from citizens on this. But I have no problem paying for the electricity if we can study the location.

I think tonight it's a yes or no. It's either what's on the docket today is an earth cam in the place where it's at or no, yes or no.

If it's a yes, is there any other negotiating on that?

I don't know. Lisa, do you know?

It's a pretty broad subject in a way.

Yeah, they were pretty flexible as far as the location. As I mentioned last week, the initial location was at the chamber, but we really don't have as much activity going on along the river walk, especially during the winter months. So they do want to see some year-round activity, whether it's PEOPLE AT A DISTANCE, CARS DRIVING BY, THE WATER FLOWING. YOU KNOW, IF YOU DECIDE ON A LOCATION THAT IS HIGHER AND CAN'T DISTINGUISH PEOPLE, I'M SURE WE COULD GET THAT APPROVED. THE ONLY THING WAS, AT THIS POINT, IT WAS AMERICA'S 250TH CELEBRATION, SO TIME WAS A LITTLE MORE KEY. BUT IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE MOVING FORWARD ON CITY PROPERTY AND SELECTED ANOTHER LOCATION, I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE TOO MUCH TROUBLE GETTING A DIFFERENT LOCATION APPROVED AS LONG AS IT had something for people to look at, water moving. There's one on Rainy Lake and International Falls and it's just the water rippling and it's quite peaceful. That's all I know.

Your Honor, I've studied this in some depth. Obviously there is no lawful reason that it can't be there. It is legal. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'VE NOT SEEN ANY PROOF THAT IT DRAWS INDIVIDUALS OR VISITORS TO FERGUS FALLS OR ANY OTHER COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE IN. I THINK THE CONTRACT HAS A LOT TO BE REVIEWED BEFORE WE DO IT, SO AT BEST, WE SHOULD TABLE IT. PRIVACY IS NOT AN ISSUE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, AUDIO, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED, IS NOT GOING TO BE ON. Other communities have advised audio to be off. Children are the real exposure. I think, Mr. Rachels, I think looking down that, if you will, walkway, there are still people that are going to be seen during the open market at these tables. So I think it's a little broader camera than what we're thinking. MAPLE GROVE DECLINED IT. ANNA, TEXAS DECLINED IT. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A DIRECTIONAL CAMERA. WE DON'T HAVE THE RECORD IN OUR SITE. IT'S JUST A NON-RECORDED DOCUMENT. PROFANITY HAS BEEN AN ISSUE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. SO I THINK I'VE GOT ABOUT 10, 15 POINTS THAT WE SHOULD REALLY REVIEW. had a meeting on the actual contract, and I'm not in favor of it being at the Spiess Park either. There's got to be a better place.

Where would you suggest any, I mean, any suggestions on another place? Because they want people. So, I mean, if you start thinking about places, and it can't be commercial, you know, in the sense of, like, you know... So I'm not sure where else you can put it that would have people, you know, some activity. I mean, they want to see activity. I mean, anywhere you put it, you're going to have, you're going to run into the privacy question if that's an issue for people. I mean, I would think personally, I mean, for the sounds of it, why do we want to space hours on this if in reality most people don't want it? I agree.

I agree.

So I mean, I think tabling it and reviewing a contract, if we don't have a place where people will have a consensus of putting it, then we're wasting people's time and Earthcam's time too.

Yeah, I appreciate that, Your Honor. The council may have a consensus to put it right where it is. They might be ready for that. I don't know. I think Spees Park is a great place if it's up, looks up, looks down towards the new boutique hotel, looks down the river, you know, just a broader, larger view. So somebody down below it, you know, 50, 100 yards away isn't right in their face. I just want to get it out of the face of the pavilion. Spee's Park, if it's up higher and I'm assured by the council it's there, I'm for it. As long as we can do that, I don't see a reason against it.

I agree with that.

Scott?

The suggestion that I brought up at our Wednesday meeting was to put it on the roof of the bathhouse for the splash pad. And in that location, you would get the view of the river that you won't have with this pavilion location. You'd see the artwork. You'd see the butterfly sculpture. You'd see the bison. You'd see the murals on the sides of the building behind over there. And you'd be able to see the activity when there's food trucks and there's concerts and there's activity on the street. And it would be that wider view that you're talking about. And I think that if it was over there and up at the top of that, it would answer these questions that you've suggested. And we wouldn't have the questions with privacy and rented space at the pavilion. So if it's possible to amend it to say we put it at that spot specifically, if that's what you're looking for as a recommendation for a specific spot, I would offer that as an amendment to the resolution. And then we can either go for it there or not.

My only concern is after Wednesday, I had feedback on that about people that take their kids there and kiddos in diapers and things like that. And as AI advances, if things could be captured off of it, even though it's live, I guess I would just want it, if it's down there, to be higher up, like Mr. Mortensen said. I don't have an issue with the overall view. I just don't want it to turn into a thing where it's a camera that's videoing a lot of tots. And that concerns me.

Yeah, Your Honor, I'd add to that. As a parent, I would have concerns with that. And an example of that, last summer, Guy and I were touring with officials from the city of Detroit Lakes, looking at that facility, and just by us walking through the facility with phones in our hands, a mother confronted us about... you know, being by their children, taking pictures of their children. There's obviously none of that happening, but the point is it's a very sensitive space, I think, for parents with young children. So I think that would be something that we'd have a lot of pushback to if we were to put it in that location.

Chief, I think there was some conversation too when we brought in the drone. I mean, people just are hot. Even though you're using it for a legal purpose. Don't fly over my property. I mean, it's a hot topic. I would like to see this thing not pass tonight and see what pops up later.

Guy, do you know if, I mean, if we put a 10-foot pole on the corner of the park, is that physically doable? I mean, obviously everything's doable, but practically. Yeah. I mean, you want to raise it?

I think it's feasible. Yeah. We'd have to look at the building when it's a block building. Yeah.

10-foot pole would probably be plenty.

I mean.

That's what I was just thinking, the top of a light pole. In the parking lot that looks that way?

There's the sign pools that have the archway.

Yeah, we're coming from the archway on this end.

I mean, I think that's a good point. Not the archway by Union, but the archway off of, what is this, Court? Court. Off of Court and shooting that way, that arch is high. That wouldn't look quite as ducky as maybe a pole sticking out of a building.

But then you've also got to get internet to this thing. It's got to be wireless anyway, I'm sure. It's got to be hardwired. Yeah, I was going to say I thought so, which we don't have. I mean, that's why Space Park, I'm sure, is attractive because there is internet there to wire it into.

I guess I would like to... I think we should talk about it just a little bit more and see what this contract is going to be. And, Rolf, I don't know if you have any specifics on that or if you've even seen it yet. I've looked at it. Okay. And, I mean, I see it would be okay, but I think there's a few unknowns that we don't know about, you know, what it's going to cover, that sort of thing, where it's going to be, how high it's going to be, what actually is the actually viewing range of this camera. And also too, I would like to see maybe Visit Fergus Falls or the Chamber jump in on this deal. If it's supposed to be for our community, that's what your business does. And that's what you promote. And that's what Visit Fergus Falls is supposed to do. So if you want to do that, you know, maybe it'll come, you know, some of the electricity or something like that can come out of their funds, your funds, I don't know. But I'm just trying to look at different areas because, you know, when we keep moving away from what we're supposed to be doing in the city council, which is doing the basics for people too. This is kind of going on for development to get people into the city, which I'm 100% for. But I don't know if all the taxpayers should pay for that because then now something else will come up and then there'll be another fee. What's the estimate? What would it cost? I have no idea. And it's hard to vote on something too when we don't have an idea roughly how much that electrical bill would be or internet, I think internet's being covered, isn't it? So I guess it's just electrical.

I don't think the electric is going to be that much.

The electric bill isn't going to be very high. It's just a camera is all you're running.

Your Honor, how about the airport?

What did you say? I believe it's low voltage.

Okay. Oh, okay. Would the airport be a place...

Maybe there'd be one other possibility that would answer Mike's question and all the privacy things, and that would be to put her up on her newly constructed bell tower facing across at the river and the mill tower and all of the artwork and all the activity down there. You wouldn't hear any voices. You wouldn't be identifying any faces, and it would be an easy connection for Internet and power and everything else. So if you're looking for another option, there you go.

I don't know if the shipper would like that. That's what I was going to say. Just an FYI.

Sorry, that bell tower project just went down.

I mean, basically, we obviously have a resolution on the floor to basically... you know, accept this. So if people obviously, you know, don't wish for it in its current form, the current form is obviously as it sits on Space Park. So unless obviously the Scott and Jim are obviously prepared to amend it. That's kind of what it is.

Well, I guess why didn't I try to amend it to being on the city hall building pointed toward the pavilion?

Is that going to have people on it? Enough people?

It won't have anybody on it. There'll be dots. I mean, you'd be lucky if you see the dot.

Your Honor, should we just rescind the motions and then just table it? Can we do that, Ralph?

My preference is to vote it down and then take it back up. Then you get clear action.

Okay, let's do that.

Okay, so we'll just leave the resolution as it is then, and we'll do a roll call.

Two times no. No. No.

No. No.

No. I'm going to vote yes. I think that anything promoting the city is good, even if it's not 100% what everybody wants.

Can a motion be offered to move forward with it at a height at Spees Park to look into it at that location where we can't see faces? Can a motion be offered to that effect?

I mean, I don't know how we're going to do that, though, practically. I mean, you'd almost have to put a camera up there to see.

I don't know if you can get that kind of detail to answer those questions, but it sounds like you are wanting those questions at least addressed and whether you can have conclusive information is what you're, you know, we'll find out. So I think what your motion is to direct staff to look into that, right? Okay. And if it's seconded and passed, then the staff has their instructions and bring it back to you at the next committee level.

Okay, I'll offer that at the Space Park location if it doesn't have facial recognition.

I'll second it.

Thank you, Laurel. Thank you, Scott. So we... All those in favor, say aye.

Aye. No. All those against, same sign. No.

The motion is approved to review, have staff review what can be done by raising it as Peace Park. The next item on the agenda is a presentation of claims in the amount of $1,691,362.33. Would somebody care to make that resolution?

I'll offer the resolution to pay the bills.

Thank you, Jim. Would somebody care to second it?

I can do that.

Thank you, Laurel. Any questions, Bill? If not, roll call, please. Yes.

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The resolution is approved. Under all finished and unfinished business, the gentleman that wanted to attend open forum just walked through the door and so on. Paul, the floor is yours if you would care to state your name and where you come from.

My name is Paul Hicks. I reside in Fergus Falls. Once again, I am standing before you thanking the city for helping us put on the Over the River Summer events, Santa's Summer Splash. Please, Chief, for being so kind as to let people dunk him. And then fire for all my crazy requests that they also sit in Playgate and wonder if we can do them or not, and then generally tell me no. Unless it's water that I can do. But as far as the community, I just want to say thank you for participating. All the artists that came out and everyone that had a fun day. I think there was a lot more people that attended than I originally thought with so much going on, even though it was a scorching hot day, and I think everyone had a good time. So, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Bill.

I think you bring a very good activity downtown. Thank you.

The next item under new business is lead pipe replacement, lead service line replacement project phase one. And we're looking to approve leach contracting excavating low bid of $597,329.84 for the phase one lead service line replacement. And with that, I will hand it over to Kyle.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP TONIGHT. WE DID HAVE A BID OPENING JUST THIS MORNING FOR THE PHASE ONE LED SERVICE LINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT. THIS IS A PROJECT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A WHILE NOW, AND FINALLY GOT THAT BID. SO WE HAD TWO CONTRACTORS THAT BID ON THE PROJECT. LEACH EXCAVATING AT $597,329.84, AND THEN LAND PRIDE AT $719,123.14. SO WE WERE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE BIDS TODAY, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS GOOD ON THE BID. make sure they had all their proper documents and everything was good. So we did call and talk to Nate Luckin to see if it would work to bring it in front of the council tonight, and he was all for it. So we are asking to award the contract to Leach Excavating. Questions or comments? If somebody can't make that resolution.

I'll offer that. I'll second.

Thank you, Laurel. Thank you, Jim.

I have a question. Assuming it's going to come up now that this is here and there's roads identified, can you remind the public and us for how these roads were identified? Because there might be people in other parts of the town that know that there are lead service lines in their neighborhood and how this works.

Yeah, so the city went through a process over the last couple of years where they looked at all of the service lines, your water service lines in the community to try and determine where lead service lines are. And our goal is to replace those over time. And there's funding out there to help us do that. So the city hired a contractor, went through, LOOKED AT AND TRIED TO IDENTIFY IT AS MUCH AS THEY COULD, AND THEY'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT. AS PART OF DETERMINING WHAT SOME OF THESE SERVICES ARE, THERE'S A LOT OF THEM THAT ARE UNKNOWN. WE AREN'T ABLE TO FIGURE OUT, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT IS THERE. SO THE STATE IS ACTUALLY DOING PROJECT OR GOING TO A FEW COMMUNITIES AND DOING A PROJECT TO TRY AND DETERMINE HOW TO GO AND POTHOLD THESE AND SEE WHAT THE COSTS ARE SO THEY REACHED OUT AND WE PUT IN THE CITY OF FERGUS FALLS SO THE STATE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO COME AND WE WERE SELECTED SO THE STATE'S GOING TO COME IN AND DO A A PILOT PROJECT IN THE CITY OF FERGUS FALLS TO DETERMINE what it is and what it takes to pothole some of these lead service lines and determine where they are. So that will be happening as well. But as over the last couple of years, we we did identify lead service lines and it's been broken into seven phases that will be done over time to replace all of the lead service lines in town. And so this is the first phase of that process.

Thank you. And just to add to that, Your Honor, and Kyle, correct me if I'm wrong, but preference was given to homes that were identified that had lead to the home and then potentially lead to lead kind of things, right? Correct. So those homes became phase one. And as we go, you know, we prioritize based on area after that. But it was lead to lead.

And when you say lead to lead, that means home to curb stop, curb stop to water main.

Because Your Honor, a lot of the homes in town will have lead just from the curb stop to the home, as opposed to curb stop to Watermain. So lead to lead was high priority number one. This area identified had more of those than other areas, and that's why we started there. Correct.

Scott? I think it's possible that homeowners that are affected are going to wonder if it's going to cost them anything, and apparently this is a state-funded program, and so the intention is that it's not going to cost the homeowner. anything for the work done on their property. Is that completely right?

Correct. Today, 100% grant funds to replace service lines. So we are pushing those to get those replaced so there is no cost to the homeowners. The homeowners that are on this first phase, we have been in those homes and talked to those homeowners already as part of the design to get into their house to make sure we knew exactly what needed to be replaced and that nature.

As I was looking at the list and it it appears that there's about 22 homes affected in this because you had 22 curb stops on the list correct, so It's pretty extensive work apparently with 22 Homes affected and a six hundred thousand dollar bill. It's over twenty five thousand dollars per Home that if they were having to pay it on their own That'd be a pretty big chunk to pay now if this is covered by all state funding that's going to be quite a relief to people Yes, and and when you say extensive it is extensive.

We're going into homes replacing from the meter Outside the home through the yard out to the street patching the street fixing landscaping all that stuff Yep, thank you

Mr. Meyer, you might have said it, and I apologize if you did. What kind of service disruption will the residents have? Are they going to have any loss of water?

No, we'll be required to keep them on service, so we'll have to do temporary service if we have to. Otherwise, it would be less than 24 hours.

Any other questions of Kyle? If not, roll call, please.

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The motion is approved. The resolution is approved. The next item on the agenda is Councilmember Cramier and HAOs.

Yeah, I was contacted by a resident in the third ward who I've known for many, many years and who lives in a twin home area. And she wanted to get together with myself, and I suggested we should have Guy Taylor there also to visit. And then Guy also had... Claire, just went blank. Claire on the phone. So I was very pleased how that conversation went. Anyway, their situation is that they have a road that the residents own. And they also own a lift station. and you know this is a these are twin homes people living in twin homes are you know usually kind of get rid of their their lawn duties and things of that nature but now they have a road to maintain and a lift station to maintain also and and what was surprising after our conversations that day that there was no HOA set up and it was in one person's account to cover these items and guess if I think the council should really look at this because these people were put in a difficult position I thought you know if a developer is going to do this to sell a road with their home and a lift station with their home that there needs to be a plan or an HOA set up to cover these expenses that these developers or that these residents are going to see down the road, literally. And I think that was one of those things that came up and it was great to talk about and they were very satisfied. So I appreciate, thank you Guy and Clara for participating in that because it was, you know, we were, The city was treated very kindly in that atmosphere. And they were very up to discussion and a good meeting. And I think it was everyone there. It wasn't a guy except one resident wasn't there. So we had seven out of the eight. So it was a good turnout. So maybe sometime down the road we can talk about that again.

I mean, obviously, legally, they own the road. Yep. So, yeah, sure.

Just to add a little bit in regards to the lift station, we did talk about that and the opportunity maybe for them to turn that over to the city. So we said, well, we will look at it, give it an assessment, and then we'll go from there and run it by Rolf and see that legally we can do what they would like us to do. But we're having that assessment done on the lift station tomorrow. So it's moving along.

Thanks for that quick action, because it was just Thursday we were discussing this, so very quick, thank you.

Your wishes are our command, Al.

Sometimes. Sometimes.

With that, we will move on to miscellaneous announcements. September 2nd, 7 o'clock, Committee of the Whole meeting. September 7, most offices and buildings closed for observation of Labor Day. Garbage and recycling normally picked up on Monday will be collected on Tuesday. Tuesday's collection will be moved to Wednesday. And then September 8th is a 5.30 city council meeting.