City Council - Regular Meeting

Call this meeting to order. Please stand for the pledge. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Okay. Roll call. Honorable Mayor Lindell. I'm here. Council member Jeff Morford here. Council member Doug Sasha here. Council member John Caper here. Council member Bill Garcia here. Council member Lauren Voyette here. Council member James Parks here.

All right. Next on the agenda is public comment or audience audience participation. This for items that are not on the agenda. Public comments are to be limited to three minutes per speaker. Anybody wish to address council? Okay. Going on next is approval of the minutes of the November 18th city council regular meeting. Miss Curtis. Oh, thank you, mayor. Your minutes. The minutes for the November 18th council meeting are in your packet as presented.

All right. Then corrections or additions? That case, I'd entertain a resolution. Your honor, I'd like to make a resolution to approve the minutes for the November 18th, 2025 council regular meeting. Second. So that was Bill or you. You bill. Okay. So I have a resolution by Jim Parks, a second by Bill Garcia. Vote by roll call. That resolution carries unanimously.

Next is recognition of the business of the month, Snider Angle. Good evening. People, a sense of community, collaboration, and support have been central to our business of the month's mission even before its three-year tenure as a formal business. In fact, owner Shirley Padilla Martinez have been has been organizing and planning events and various fundraisers for mission trips, youth groups, and women's ministry for more than 25 years. Her 35-year career as a speech language pathologist has aided in unlocking social communication potential, achieving cognition and language achievement, and breaking down barriers to make connections with others in order to more clearly experience the world. Tonight, it is my honor and privilege to announce that Shirley Anne's Small Gatherings and Fine Gifts LLC has been selected as this month's business of the month recipient for its valuable contributions to our community. Each month, this distinction is given to a Fort Morgan business that excels in such areas as pride in their business, top-notch customer service, operational growth, active involvement in area organizations and programs, and community contributions that contribute to making to creating a better quality of life. After a three decade successful career as a speech language pathologist with the Denver area school systems and moving to Fort Morgan, Shirley met another small business owner that enthusiastically influenced her decision to open a gift shop and event center in 2022 on Enzy Street in Fort Morgan with two other partners. This wasn't

Shirley's first time as a retailer. In fact, she had co-owned a Victorian gift shop in the historic Edgewater, Colorado neighborhood across from Sloans Lake for four years in the early 2000s. Although the new business in Fort Morgan was doing well, especially with nearby activity generated at Zazzies and the HD TV hometown takeover production, it met with other challenges and the partners decided it would be best to dissolve the partnership. However, when one door closes, another seems to open. With insight gained through the boost your business seminars and courses offered um and courses offered by the small business development center along with support from many community members, Shirley reopened Shirley's small gatherings and fine gifts in her home located at 100 South Sherman Street on October 1st, 2023. The business is an exclusive event center that can accommodate 2 to 25 guests in a historic and exquisite turn of the century Victorian home, adding to the extraordinary experience and inviting ambiance of the setting. Attendees can experience everything from high tea, paint and sip classes, themed dinner parties, crafting classes, and even summer art camp. Customized private parties and events can also be arranged. So if one is wanting to host an unforgettable bridal shower, holiday office party, sweet 16 birthday celebration, welcome baby shower, courtyard reunion, or women's auxiliary lunchon. Our business of the month honore can accommodate you with a unique package and rate. She still operates a small gift shop on the premises that features handmade gifts and fine art from local artists as well as antiques, vintage items, and other one of a time

one-of-a-kind collectibles. Shirley's small gatherings and fine gifts has garnered several positive ratings on social media and have gained many accolades such as this one from Denise Price. I quote, "My family held a private tea during the holiday season at Shirley's. The dining room was spacious and her attention to detail. From the fresh baked tea pastries to holiday china play settings made the experience extra charming. If you're in the area, stop by the darling front boutique for carefully curated new and vintage items. We will be scheduling a private event again. What a gem. In addition to these memorable experiences and distinctive keep stakes, what also makes Shirley's small gatherings and fine gifts special is her emphasis on collaboration, volunteerism, and charitable support. Organizations such as the Dakota Pvost Memorial Fund auction, the Ebenezer Golf Tournament and auction, and the Fort Morgan High School Theater Group have benefited from her generosity and monetary donations. Shirley serves as the case chairperson for the community arts committee and is and its related third Thursday art walks. She is a member of the food entrepreneurs of Eastern Colorado as well as the Fort Morgan Chamber of Commerce. As a member of Alpha Delta Kappa, an educators sorority, she has traveled to Tanzania Africa to support one of its schools. She is also a self-proclaimed cheerleader for small businesses throughout Morgan County and has formed various partnerships and collaborative opportunities with many of them including Barnwood Coffee, Sage Brush Market, Country Roads, Vines and Wines, and Village Liquors. The business carries products to from carrying the products to digitally promoting them in

various ways. In October this year, the owner, administrator, salesman, marketer, bookkeeper, interior decorator, hostess, and baker of one celebrated three years in business. As Shirley notes, I love what I do. I'm passionate about making each event an experience to remember, and I'm honored to bring this unique and beautiful service to Fort Morgan. Please join me in congratulating and thanking our December business of the month selection, Shirley Anne's Small Gatherings and Fine Gifts LLC, for the outstanding efforts and contributions this business provides in order to make Fort Morgan a great place to live, work, and enjoy. [applause] And Shirley is here with um a whole contingency. So, I will let her introduce her her contingency and say a few words. [snorts]

Thank you, council. I um it's a real honor and it's humbling to be here. I know there's so many small businesses just working really hard and I've had the privilege of getting to know many of them and uh forming relationships and collaborations with them. So, this truly is an honor. Thank you. Thank you, Sandy. Um, [clears throat] as a small business owner, if any of you have been a small business owner, I think you would agree that you can't do it on your own. It takes a village. And I have some people here today who are very important and special to me. My husband, he's way back there hiding. [laughter] You can see the little salt and pepper grave. and uh my son, daughter-in-law, my mother, she's all the way from Alaska, my sister Pam, my I have a whole bunch of friends here. And I I want I'm I want to tell you that um somebody who's been near and dear to my heart and a number one cheerleader also for many um small business owners and and uh groups and uh just like everybody's cheerleader has been Lynn Dill. So I she was the first one to greet us when we moved to Fort Morgan and she's just been rooting us on all the way through. And I thank you also to Brent. He's known this journey. He's he's been with us on this journey from Enzen Street all the way to where we are today. So I thank you all very much. Um, I just want to say that, um, I truly think this is a beautiful community. Like, my parents like like I'm a teenager. [laughter] Like,

[clears throat] um, my grandparents lived in Wona. So, I grew up in this area. I we visited the area all the time, like every other weekend we were here. and it was like about a hundred of us that would come to to uh Wellona and on the weekends and get together as family. So um then of course my grandmother when she passed away we all kind of scattered and never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd be back here [clears throat] in this area. But I also on the other hand feel like it was destined to happen. And when I moved back here from Westminster, um, I just felt like I came home. And I just want to tell you that there's so many beautiful things that I appreciate here. I'm glad we're not in the horse and buggy days cuz I go back and forth still a lot.

[laughter]

But um you have so much to offer and I just I've just discovered that by just putting myself out there, going to different events and um I I do a lot. I I got tired just hearing what Sandy read. I was like, "Wow, I'm exhausted." Um, but I love to just get out there, meet people, and uh just be in the community, see all the different social and cultural diversity and everything that you have to offer. And I always tell my mom, I tell her, I could be at something every single night of the week. So, this is a community, even though I came from the Denver metro area, it's a community that has a lot to offer. if people will uh kind of put themselves out there and explore. But I've been very proud of my business. It was a dream to open a tea house one day. Um and I love uh I have a friend here who helps me with the antiques. He came all the way from Julesburg [clears throat] um tonight to be here. And so we we do a lot together. And um I guess my goal for my business is just to welcome everybody um into my home to make it unique and different a different experience every time you come. But um to make it feel like you're just family and you can come can sit around the table. You can eat a meal, have tea, sing karaoke, um dance together. We, you know, things just happen. They It's kind of organic and things happen. But it's been really beautiful and I look forward to what is whatever is to come. And I thank all my

family and my friends and my people. And I thank you as well. [applause] [clears throat] Okay. Next is uh presentation possible action on a resolution increasing the fire pension. Chief Bame, your honor, I need to recuse myself. In essence, I do receive that pension. All righty. [clears throat]

Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um October 27th our we have a board and we met up there at the fireh hall. Um we meet probably two to three times a year. Um we go over what's called actuarials. We go over our numbers just to make sure we're solvent in our fund. Um we are solvent in our fund and we're very very good in our fund right now. So, um the board met and went over our numbers and um voted to increase the pension on the um uh the fire pension. So, um right now it's at $500 per month per member. Um we um are asking for a resolution to raise that to $525 a month per member. Um we um currently have 33 retired members on that and uh six beneficiaries. Uh the beneficiaries are the widows or widowers of the firefighters that have passed. So they get half of the pension that is provided to the firefighters when they retire. Um to get this pension, you have to have the 20 years. Um in those 20 years, you have to have the 36 hours of training per year. So, um, every firefighter is required to have that 36. If they don't get the 36, they have the, uh, they have to spend more time with us, of course, to get the the 20 years in. So, um, we usually don't have that happen. Um, we have quite a bit of training to be able to to make up those 36 hours a year. So, um, you have to be at the minimum age of 50 to get the pension. Um [cough and clears throat] the uh uh the city has been contributing quite a bit every year. Um which is great. Uh it's good to know that you guys have our backs when we do get our 20 years in. So um it doesn't seem like a lot, but it it's perfect for what we do. Um we love serving the community and doing what we do. So, um, tonight I am asking for a

resolution to raise the, um, pension from $500 a month to $525 a month per member. Um, it will increase about $25,000 a year out of the, um, the fund itself. Currently, we're paying out $134,000 uh, last year. With the $25 increase, um, it'll be $159,000 uh, next year. So, all right. Any questions or discussions for Trey? If not, I'd entertain a resolution. Your honor, I'd offer a resolution to increase the um fire pension from $500 to $525 a month.

Second. All right. So, I got a resolution by Lauren Boyette, second by John Caper. Vote by roll call. That resolution carries unanimously. Thank you. This will take effect January one of next year also. So that's when that'll start. So Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Council January 26. Yeah. [clears throat]

Okay. Next on the agenda is presentation possible action on a resolution on a 2025 street department single axle dump/plow truck. Mr. Willis. Evening, mayor and council. Uh, yep. I'm here to uh present that uh we went out for bid uh for a single axle uh dump [snorts] and plow truck. Uh it would be uh replacing our 1999 uh GMC 7500 and it's got 107,000 miles on it. transmission issues. But uh but the the new truck could be used for a haul and road base uh for alley maintenance uh tree branches, dirt, leaves, sweepings, just normal maintenance duties from around the through the city. Uh we had uh 275,000 uh budgeted for this and we uh put an advertisement out on the city website on October 13th and also made it available at city hall. Bid openings were on November 21st and uh the bids are as [clears throat] as follows. Excuse me. it's um uh a little bit uh complicated on their bids. So uh if I start from the the back end of the list, [clears throat] these were uh presented from uh uh technology uh international for a Kinworth and Master Tech for another Kinworth. Those two were uh a little bit above and

beyond. So, um, I wanted to bring them up right away cuz they're, uh, uh, we're not going to go with those, unfortunately, because they're a little bit higher priced than what the other ones are. Now, we did get [snorts] bids from uh, Mechanist Truck Center. Uh, that's those are for internationals and from Trans West uh, Freightlininer. Now, with both of those models, [clears throat] they had Holman for a body and plow setup and also OJ Watson for body and plow setup. Now, uh both of these companies uh bid the same uh uh body styles and stuff as as what uh for Holman and OJ Watson. Uh um did you want me to read down all the prices and stuff on all these? Okay. So, uh I wanted to explain uh some of our options uh would be uh some steel sideboards [clears throat] which uh help hold the material in and uh so we're not making a mess on the streets. and uh during lighter loads like uh hauling snow or some lighter debris, it'll give us a little bit more capacity in there. And then the high lift tailgates, we'll [clears throat] be able to uh gain probably about uh 6 to 8 in of of deck height. So when the the uh tailgate will be hydraulically lifted, it won't pivot right at the top of the box. It'll pivot a little bit further up and it'll give debris more room to slide out of the box without getting hung up. And on these

uh Holman, they had uh cable controls were standard for them. So to upgrade it to electronic controls, so you'd uh uh have an electronic PTO, uh you'd have uh electronic joysticks instead of cable controls. It would be an extra $3,963.90. So uh and on OJ Watson, they bid that as standard equipment. [clears throat]

So, with that being said, um the best option for us would be to go with the Trans West Trucks for a 2025 Freight Liner with the OJ Watson body and and the standards. So, the staff or staff is requesting council approval for a 2025 Freightlininer from Trans West Trucks, including the OJ Watson body and uh plow and the additional uh truck options in the amount of [clears throat] $222,321. And we'd like to approval uh for cost associated with uh setting up a city-owned mobile radio in the truck and uh other prep items and tools to get the truck into service for an amount not to exceed $223,321.

All right. Anybody have any questions for JW? I have a question JW. Single cab. What's that? Single cab. Oh, yeah. Single cab. Yeah. What are we doing with the uh 99? [clears throat] I've got an a talked to uh a water treatment plant cuz they borrowed our existing truck and if they want to use it, they're going to have it. We go ahead and offer it to them first. If uh water treatment plant don't need it, then we'll probably put it out for auction. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions?

Yeah, J, this was uh your lowest bid, but it it accommodated everything you needed and what you were looking for. You bet. Correct. Yep. [clears throat] Correct. Okay. Doing really good. That's all I was going to ask. Yep. Okay. Anything else? In that case, I'd entertain a resolution. Your honor, I'll make a resolution to approve the bid for [clears throat] 2025 Freight Liner from Trans West Trucks as described by Mr. Willis including the plow and options along with the radio for the price not to exceed 223 321. Second. All right. So I have a resolution by John Caper, a second by Jim Parks by roll call. That resolution carries unanimously.

All right. Thanks. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Okay. Next is presentation possible action approving a Senza architecture agreement for the Fort Morgan aquatic facility schematic design. Mr. Underwood. Uh good [clears throat] good evening Mr. Mayor Council. Uh yeah, tonight I'm here seeking council approval uh for contracting with Asen's architecture for those schematic design services to build an aquatic facility uh approximately 27,000 square feet onto the fieldhouse. Um after the vote was passed, this is the logical next step. Now we get into the literal nuts and bolts of the project. So this would essentially bring on Asenza to assist with all development, engineering, budgetary tracking, cost estimating, outreach, bid assistance, and any other areas of support. Um we really want we are recommending to go with the senza really to continue the same vision that's been put into place by so many people over the last two years. Uh whether it be the council approving the concept design the work that the stakeholders have put in the community surveys uh really just to stay along that path. They are the architects on record [clears throat] at the current fieldhouse which is a plus. Uh have worked with us the last two years familiar with the community. also working in northeastern Colorado quite a bit lately uh assisting Yumo with a couple various projects there.

So, we're really comfortable and we think that's our best chance to move forward in a successful manner. So, as stated, I am here big numbers. I'm here requesting uh approval of the Asenza contract in the amount of 1 well 1,840,373 but up to $2,254,973. Uh this would be depending on the alternate additional services required when we get into the engineering. uh had a a lot of that encompasses like if we were to go for lead certifications and energy efficient options, stuff like that. Uh in the concept design, these things weren't seen as large value, but in case we get into it as we go through things, we want to make sure that we have asked for the proper amounts. Are there any questions?

Any questions for Matt? Yeah. Uh $400,000 is is is that common? I I was going to ask Brett that because he deals with these things a little more with the extras that they're doing on there. The things the things they have on that list. Um yeah, that would be okay. That's appropriate.

Yeah. And I got the question before the meeting started about is this in the does it seem like it's in the right price range? And typically when you look at design work on something of this, you estimate somewhere between six and 8%. Um this falls in line with what we char or got charged for the fees to design the fieldhouse when we built the fieldhouse. And this is in line with uh their cost estimates that they did with all the conceptual work and everything. So yeah, we feel it's um in line with what we were expecting and what we should expect in the design. Okay. I didn't not I didn't mean to discount you. I just knew that Brent was more Good thing is they're not my numbers.

Okay. [laughter] Well, I just know that he's more familiar with some of these. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, basically, you're asking for the 2.2 million, but you'll hold it back if if you can.

Exactly. Yeah. As you can see, there's uh various degrees of the lead certification at the back of that contract agreement. Uh if we choose not to move forward with that certification, there won't be any need for that. And of course, that has to be approved upfront because it'll be a big part of the design, you know, whether it be the architectural, whether it be amenities and stuff like that. you will eventually see from us a a budget amendment for 20 26 that speaks to the fact that this is larger than anything that was in the capital budget um that we already approved. Uh we also will have to make the adjustment to the income that wasn't reflected in the budget for the additional 1% that we will start collecting on January 1, which is a future agenda item tonight. And so we'll bring back a budget amendment and cover all these things in there that we know are happening because of the pool vote and the way that it went.

All right. Any other questions? That case I'd entertain a resolution. You want to make a resolution a request for a resolution approving Asenza architecture for the Fort Morgan Aquatic Facility Design in the amount of 2,254,973 and no cents. Second. All right. So have res resolution by John Caper, second by Jim Parks by roll call.

That resolution carries unanimously. While we got you up there, let's go ahead and talk about uh approving the uh Omnia Pursing Collective for 2026 Street Sanitation Building, South Roof replacement.

So, yes, um we've now had departments operating and working out of that building for a little over a year now. Uh it's time to start putting some love into it. The storms this last season, they really expose some weaknesses that we had. Uh we sustained extensive damage from these storms, whether it's drywall, carpet. Uh we even have a server room in there that took a very big hit. Luckily, Nelson was able to salvage the data that got ruined when that server got hit uh destroyed. So, we brought in CIRA in the middle of the year to do a roofing assessment. everything else. Through the course of this, we discovered that it is a 1990 uh EDPM ballast roof. Those are usually rated for up to 20 to 25 years at the most. So, we can do the math. It's in some pretty bad shape. So, I did work with Omnia uh and it is an intergovernmental cooperative purchasing group which ensures the lowest market adjusted pricing. This was big for us because these are complicated roofing systems that honestly are beyond any kind of contractors that we have doing this kind of work in the city of Fort Morgan. So, working with them, we did go out to bid um on October 15th. Uh we did have a pre-bid meeting October 27th followed by the bid opening on November 12th. We had four companies give us recommendations on or pricing on a cold option as well as three for hot. Uh you'll see that we will be recommending that we go with uh we we want to go with that cold option. Essentially what it means is the cold option we can do it any time of year. We're not impacted by that. The smell is not near of an issue. Also too, you'll notice most of the difference between between those options. there's a about 10 years difference on what's called an NDL warranty for those uh roofing projects.

So, it's another consideration we took in. So, after reviewing the numbers, we are coming seeking council approval to accept the cold option price from B&M roofing in the amount of $993,000 900 $993,917. Uh this will encompass removing all the existing. It has contingency built in for any structural damage, decking, insulation underneath and it will bring it up to the R30 standards uh which were required by any project of this nature. This area of the roof does cover all of the finished office space from end to end roughly 12,000 square ft. So once we get this taken care of, we can start seriously looking at in-house what we can start doing to improve finish some of the other areas without honestly dumping money down the drain. Uh this money was this uh was not originally funded in next year's 2026 capital budget, but because we don't have to turn around and resurface Riverside Pool, that frees up funds that allow us to keep that capital budget still balanced without ultimately affecting the overall. So are there any questions?

Anybody have any questions for Matt? So mine is, you know, you're talking about south roof and the north roof. Why south roof so much more affected where it's got the leaking as opposed to the north?

Uh, a lot a large reason is is because the south roof actually sits on top of four different kinds of decking systems uh from TJs to a little bit of concrete to wood framing. So, as that stuff has turned around and failed and uh over time, just for knowledge sake, a ballast roof consists of inch and a half cobble. So, you go up on there and it's just a huge rock. So, that weight weighs down. The north roofs, they're actually all on concrete. So, that concrete holds up to that beating a lot better. Also to our north roofing systems encompass just a small a portion of EDPM as well as metal roofing. So, that's the biggest difference. This is that low flat roof that basically the weight over time has caused it to sag which just increases that damage. The new system will not include putting the ballast back up there. But uh it's a lot of rock to pull off the roof. I volunteered uh I volunteered my parks department services, but George didn't talk to me for a week. So we're going to ask them today. [laughter]

All right. Any other questions for Matt? Matt, they didn't catch any of that on the inspection at all.

Uh to tell you the truth, everyone knew, yes, it was a problem. Uh it was addressed along that. This wasn't anything anyone was we were close-minded to. Uh the roofing systems were it was well understood. The history and the history of that roof is well understood. We walked you walked through that building, you saw the stained tiles. So this wasn't any kind of lack of due diligence. One could argue that without speaking out of turn because it wasn't ultimately me, you know, making those calls at the time, we got a pretty when you figure in what we ultimately would have been paying for the original plan to maybe meet the needs of future growth uh in other master plans, other concepts, we got a pretty good deal big picture even with what our maintenance costs are going to, you know, look at over the coming four or five years. uh the square footage that we have, the ability to grow in that facility, it was seen as a worthwhile thing at the time. So, we're just to that point. You know, you've seen the efforts we put in towards landscaping, street sanitations, working their tails off out of there, uh building maintenance. It's just time to get uh a return on the full investment out there. our our purchase price on that was a million dollars less than what the appraised value of the building was. And that was part of why we offered what we did was because we knew there would be some things that we needed to address, including the roof. So,

all right. Any other questions? That case, I'd entertain a resolution. Your honor, I'd like to offer a resolution approving the omni purchase [clears throat] purchasing collective for 2026 street sanitation building south roof roof replacement. Second. Okay. So, I have a resolution by Jim Parks, second by Jeff Morford by roll call. That resolution carries unanimously. Thank you. Okay. Next is presentation possible action approving the Acadia Farms amended development agreement. Mr. Nation.

Okay. Uh we have a couple of development agreements that we're bringing back to you tonight. Um the first one is one the two agreements [clears throat] that we have with Aadia Farms. Um they have a development agreement that addresses some of the things that they have going on in their subdivision, the Beiju subdivision. And then we also had a loan agreement um where we gave them some money for the upfront cost with the project. Um after we met executive session, I took our request back to the developer that we wanted to see. Uh what you have tonight is um everything that we basically told the developer that we wanted um adjusted in these. And so the first one, when you look at the development agreement itself, it is just basically a request to extend um the some of the fees associated with the subdivision until December 31st of 2028. And that's the only change to the actual development agreement. And then the loan agreement um there was a request um to extend that to a longer term and we settled upon extending that to December 31st of 2026. So that's a one-year extension and they agreed to go with the current uh US Treasury rate and so we hardcoded that in there. That's 3.65 right now. And so so those were the changes. So, we'll have a one-year extension um to that loan agreement and then we'll extend um uh some of the development fees um for three years on the Beiju subdivision. And so, but like I said, those were all things that um you guys gave us direction in executive session and the developer agreed with. And so, what you have in front of you is a resolution that would codify those changes to both of those agreements. Happy to answer any questions. Anybody

have any questions? If not, I'd entertain a resolution. Your honor, offer resolution accepting the uh Kadia Farm amendment development agreement as presented. Second. Okay. So, I have a resolution by Doug Sasha, second by Jeff Morford. Vote by roll call. That resolution carries unanimously. All right. Continuing along those lines, uh, action approving the grid iron development agreement extension. Again, Mr. Nation.

Yeah, once again, um, working with our developer and, um, I know there's one. I know one. And well, I thought I saw Anna earlier. Is she here? Okay. Okay. Um, this is u, we've been referring to this one as the sports bar out in Center Point. Uh we've been working with them, as you can see in Tom's memo, we've been working with them since 2022 and going through everything. Last year, they came in and requested a one-year extension. Um took them the better part of this year to get a new designer on board and help them um with what they're looking for in the way of a new design. And Tom kind of lays that out in the memo. uh we asked them to make some positive progress towards the development of the sports bar before we wanted to come in and ask for another extension. Uh we feel a staff they have done that. Uh they're they have provided us with a new conceptual plan that we're now reviewing in the building department and moving forward. uh they've now made us aware of um their financing and things like that and they are anticipating wanting to break ground sometime this spring after we get through the winter. And so we felt that that was um the progress that we wanted to see um in order to talk to them about an extension. So we met with them over planning and zoning and talked through them. They provided us with a letter that's in your packet and expressing their intent to move forward with this. And so tonight you will see there's a resolution um that would allow them to extend their development agreement. We with our conversations with them, we understand that this is going to be longer than a year to get built. And so we wanted to make sure that there was plenty of time in there. So the request tonight is to extend that development agreement by two years. So that'll allow them to get into construction and then have it completed by the end end of this agreement. And so staff is supporting

that and we did ask them if they wanted to be here tonight if you had any questions specifically for them. Uh they are here um to answer anything and I would be happy to answer any questions you might have. So any questions for Mr. Nation or the owners?

Hearing none I'd uh entertain a resolution. Your honor, I'll make a resolution to approve the grid iron development agreement extension by two years as presented. Second. Okay. So, I got a resolution by John Caper, a second by Doug Sasha. I'll vote by roll call. The resolution carries unanimously. Okay. Next is uh presentation possible action approving the 21st interim NISP agreement amendment. Mr. ation.

Um, yeah, typically we bring in a new interim agreement in December and have council approve that because of the way that the final stages of design are coming together with NISP and everything. Um, Northern Water chose to do an amended agreement. So, we want to amend the 21st interim agreement. Um, financially, this actually helps out the city. Um the the new amendment is actually less of a financial obligation for all the participants now that we are getting dialed in and know what the final design steps during 2026 are going to be. So Northern staff decided that we didn't need to they didn't need to request as much money from the participants going into 2026. But since but since this happens so late in the year, they're going forward with this amendment. And so it's a real simple amendment. It actually reduces our financial obligation for 2026 and then it um actually gives us more time to pay into Northern Water. Typically they ask for the money right after the first of the year. This doesn't um require us to pay until May, I think. And so it gives us a little more time which helps us cash flow-wise as the city. So uh I don't have any reason not to say that we need to um go ahead and approve this. So tonight you have a resolution in front of you that would approve this amendment to the 21st interim agreement.

Okay. Anybody have any questions for Brent? If not, I'd entertain a resolution. Make a resolution to approve the 21st interim NISP agreement amendment as presented. Second. Okay. You did that. Okay. Okay. So I get uh have a resolution by John Caper, a second by Bill Garcia. Vote by roll call. That resolution carries unanimously. Thank you.

Okay. Next is presentation possible action on a resolution concerning electric vehicle charging. Mr. Acre. Good evening, mayor and council. This is a uh result of a house bill that was passed in 2024 that required municipalities of our size and larger and counties to take a look at their uh permitting process and planning and zoning as it regards uh references to EV vehicle charging. We took a look at ours. We've had two projects in the past couple of years. Want to become EV ready. The cargo project over at Riverview and then also the Gateway Apartments. Those are both EV ready, which means they've got the the pipes in the ground and when they're ready to actually start having EV chargers, they have got the transformers and all the electric components that are large enough for that to happen. As we took a look at this um requirement from the state, our process works pretty darn well. It's pretty smooth. Our we work with the electric department with the planning and zoning and we work with the developers of saying, "Okay, what do you want to have and what do you want to have ready?" So, our thought was we want to opt out of any new stuff right now and just continue to use our current process. And with that, I can answer any questions.

Any questions? So, hearing is there any change then or? We're not making any changes to our process. Uh the state just required us to either make a change or opt out of it by the end of this year. I'm confused of what the resolution is then. So the opt yeah the resolution just allows us to stay opted out of the otherwise we would have to pat or adopt the new rules that the state is forcing on everybody and we don't yeah we don't need to do that

mostly because with us having our own electric utility we can keep that process moving along so rapidly that it doesn't slow us down when we're in the middle of a development that's having discussions about EV charging. The way that you explain is Tom everything is very adequate and and everything would work correct you know right we've got the u in these two cases we've got the conduit and the the transformer sized properly to where if they're ready to act on it we can act on it. Great. Thank you.

Okay. Any other questions? Okay. Then I'd entertain a resolution, your honor, for resolution concerning the electric vehicle charging as presented by Mr. Acre. Second. Okay. So, I have a resolution by Doug Sasha, second by Jim Parks, flo by roll call. That resolution carries unanimously. [clears throat] Thank you. All righty. Next is resolution and pos I mean presentation possible action on first reading of an ordinance to amend the municipal code concerning the collection of taxes and request to schedule a public hearing for December 16th. Miss Edson.

Right. Good evening mayor and councel. So we all know that the pool vote went our direction. So this is just the ordinance that's going to change our actual taxes that we're being charged. So we are um in this ordinance we are increasing t sales and use tax by 1% for to be used for designing acquiring constructing improving and equipping an aquatics facility. This new tax will increase so 1% sales tax for a total of 5% that will start on January 1st 2026. the tax will run through J December 31st 2046 um at which point it will be reduced by 0.25% 25% that can be reduced earlier if council so chooses. So is there any questions on that?

Any questions for Casey? That case I'd entertain a resolution. Your honor, I'd offer a resolution um to amend the municipal amend the municipal code concerning the collection of taxes and request to schedule public hearing for December 16th as presented. Uh this would be effective for tax effective 11206. Second. Okay. So I have a resolution by Lauren Royette, second by Jim Parks. Vote by roll call. That resolution carries unanimously. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. Next is presentation possible action on first reading of an ordinance prohibiting the use of gray water and the installation of graywater treatment works. Mr. Nation.

Yeah. This is this is another one that kind of goes handinhand with the EV conversation we just had. This the state has gotten funny about they they pass legislation and they're all like, "Well, if you guys want to do it your way, we'll just let you do it your and then all of a sudden they come back and they're like, "Well, no, that's not what we really meant. We need you guys to either adopt what we're telling you to adopt or you have to tell us that you're opting out of it." And so they're getting more particular about, you know, getting our in our business. [laughter] So, and this is just one of these steps that we have to take on gray water. They're they now have provisions that allow for people to put graywater systems into their houses and businesses and things like that. We as a community cannot allow our citizens um to use their gray water because of the water rights that we use. CBT water is singleuse water and it's actually already illegal under our water rights to allow people to have these type of systems. And so in order for us to stay in compliance with the the new graywater rules that are in effect, we have to take this step to basically say that we're prohibiting the use of gray water within our community. And so for the last several years, we've had people approach us and talk about gray water and we've just been able to tell them that because it's CBT water, you can't do it. And people have listened, [clears throat] but now we have to take this formalized step. And so that's what you have in front of you tonight is an ordinance that uh we need to pass on first reading [clears throat] um for the graywater issue.

All right. Is there any questions for Brent? So this just reinforces what we already have in place. Yeah, legally we can't let people do it anyway, but this just reinforces that. Yes. And and before um this state legislation was put into place, um it was kind of opposite. What? So, in other words, it prohibit it. But now that the state is saying, well, unless you prohibit it, they're going to allow it. So, it's just like Brent said, one more thing that we have to do to respond to state legislation. Okay. I'd entertain a resolution. Your honor, I'd like to make a resolution on first reading of an ordinance prohibiting the use of graywater and the installation of graywater treatment works. Second.

Okay. So, I have a resolution by Jim Parks, second by Bill Garcia. Vote by roll call. That resolution carries unanimously. [clears throat]

All right. Next on the agenda is a public hearing on ordinance number 1325 amending chapter 7 of the Fort Morgan Municipal Code to include trap, neuter, and spay protocols for community cats. This is a public hearing. Please keep public comments to the issues before the city council. Each speaker is asked to limit comment time to 3 minutes unless the speaker represents a group of citizens in which event additional time may be allocated. Please respect these limitations. I reserve the right to limit public comment that is inappropriate under these guidelines or otherwise improper. I also reserve the right to limit testimony or questioning that is repetitive, cumulative, argumentative or not pertinent to the issues and to set a time limit on the duration of testimony if I determine it to be necessary in light of the number of persons who've already signed up to testify. First, is the issue of legal notice? Miss Curtis, has this been properly noticed?

Yes, mayor. on November 14th. Okay. Next is the presentation of the ordinance by myself, I guess. Um, anyway, this is just basically reversing an ordinance we have that it makes it illegal to release animals back into the community and this would allow them. It also sets up parameters for a TNR program, but a TNR program would be established by uh the Humane Society or somebody else and still have to come before council. But so anyway, we're we've been through this. We've discussed it and everything. It was tabled and so we're bringing it back. Next, we'll hear public comments. Is there anyone here who wishes to speak on this issue?

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Mayor, uh, council members, um, my husband and I bought our home in Fort Morgan in 2011 and, Um by 2012 my husband had had his third stroke and um for the next 10 years I was his caregiver. Um during that period of time um I had to hire somebody to come. We had bought the home from Ben Balvin. Um he had remodeled the home and um he never uh the front porch had about this much of a a gap between the big open deck and the ground. Uh we had to pay to have someone come out and totally enclose it because it had turned into a kitty a feral kitty sanctuary. They were under there all the time. It stunk. They fought. It was not a pleasant thing and I had to um get that repaired. Um my husband couldn't do it because he was paralyzed. Uh anyway, I didn't really pay much attention to what was going on as far as kitties and that goes, but my husband passed away in 2022 in the fall. And um I have noticed that we do have a feral um kitty problem. Um this Halloween I called code enforcement because I had my gate open for the trick-or-treaters and the feral cats were coming in on my porch and um I was hoping that they'd come and and grab a couple. Uh but um

they were probably busy with Halloween, so they didn't. Uh then I called back uh the following Monday and asked uh for someone from code enforcement to come out and set up a trap uh and maybe catch a a kitty. Um, so someone came out on Monday and uh from code enforcement and said they would set up a trap on Wednesday and bait it and we'd see what we'd catch. And they set up the trap. They said they'd set it up around 7 in the morning, which they did, I guess. But when I got up to check, uh, the cat the, uh, bait was gone, the trap was wide open, and there was no kitty. So, I assumed that code enforcement would come and check and possibly rebate it or um see if they could catch another cat. Uh, meanwhile, um, nothing happened. the same cat uh can of empty uh bait sat there. So, finally I called code enforcement on Saturday and I was told that um code enforcement only works during the week and not weekends, but they sent an officer to the home and he came and he looked at the trap and the empty bait and he said, "I don't know how to set that trap up." So he said, "You'll have to call code enforcement on Monday." So I did call code enforcement and I went out there and I looked and the trap was gone and that was that. I mean, code enforcement did not come and say, "We're going to get you a new trap and we'll try again." They didn't address their efforts. They didn't talk to me.

They just sort of left it like a bad dream, you know? They just let it disappear. Your three minutes are up. I'm sorry. Your three minutes are passed up. So conclude real quickly.

Oh, can I Okay. The just I have a question for you gentlemen and that is who is going to pay for this because who's going to monitor the rabies shots, the um health shots for these kitties? You can't take them in and sterilize them and let them loose without monitoring their health. As I left through to actually drive here, um, two kitties were eating out of the dumpster. That's not a healthy um that's not a healthy future for kitties.

All right. It's too short. That's what the rules were when we started. [clears throat] [clears throat]

I know it's me again. [laughter] Hi guys. Um, I was here a few weeks ago explaining the damage that the cats had done to my property and why I'm against the return part of this resolution. Uh, the resolution you are considering would change section 7110A which begins as the purpose of this chapter is to protect the public health, safety, welfare of the residents of the city. So, the health, safety, and welfare of your constituents, uh, you really do have a responsibility at act on what's best for us in the city. I took a few pictures of what's going on in my neighborhood so you guys can see because visuals are better. And I will give these to you. You will see several of our local cats, the ones that have come in my backyard. Um, you'll see one carrying a Dorito bag. You'll see one trash from the dumpsters. These cats can live up to 15 years. I don't want to keep living with this. So, um, I'm going to give that. I also have a picture in there. I had an Amazon delivery of some special cat food for my cat for her medical needs. The feral cats actually got into my package, ripped it open, and were eating the cat food. So, you will also see that, too. Um,

thank you. So now that the feral cats have discovered that I have cat food delivered, I can no longer do any kind of delivery of cat food. I don't get the benefit of Walmart deliveries. Safeway deliveries, Door Dash, anything like that. They are really affecting um I live in the same neighborhood as Terry there. My neighbor Sheila Bath should have sent Jeff and Doug a text. She tried to email you, but it was California time. So, um I just again don't want to live like this for the last or for the next 10 years. Um it's not protecting our health, safety, and welfare. um on Morgan County Bulletin board on Facebook. In the last year, there were two posts looking for barn cats and nine people looking for kittens. I just say let's put more effort into the trap neuter and adopt program. Um wave adoption fees if need be, free or lowcost spare and neuter clinics, and let's enforce our current codes instead of taking the easy way out on this. Um that's pretty much all I have.

All right. Well, thank you. Any questions? I still think that's something all that you've been through with the feral cats. All right. If there's not anyone else in the public who wish to speak on this issue, I'll ask the city clerk if any oral or written comments were submitted to the clerk's office prior to this hearing. I have not received any oral or written comments. I did receive the email from Miss Bath, but I received it at 5:20 just ahead of the meeting, but it basically just is opposed to the change tonight.

Okay, we'll now proceed with council discussion. Any questions or discussion from the council?

Yes, your honor. I do have I had a uh I got a correspondence from um u council member elect uh u Brian Arialis and he he has four questions here if I can. Um first of all, how many feral cats are currently in the humane society? Second, are there any uh are there currently feral cats in the humane society for more than 12 months or 12 months or longer? How long and third, how long, how are all the feral cats in the humane society spayed or neutered? Um, if the ordinance passes, uh, how will the distribution distribution decide where the current feral cats in the humane society go? And, uh, whose ward will they be in? And uh fourth, what is the current budget of the humane society and how much would it increase the uh if this ordinance ordinance passes? And he also said that he was not in favor of the ordinance.

Sounds to me like you needed to call the Humane Society, you know, because I don't know of anybody here that's going to be able to answer those questions. Okay. Well, he and everything. And so he sent those to me. So I thought, well then I'm saying as his representative maybe you should have called the humane society to find out because we don't have any answers. I can't answer the budgetary part from [clears throat] the city side. Okay.

I believe real close it's around $52,000 is what we pay the humane society. As far as their budget, it's considerably more because of the grants and the other funding that they get from outside sources. But we, the city pays roughly $52,000 and has for I would say the last seven years or so. And it would not increase that budget. At least I would never agree to increasing it without council telling me I had to. Something we [clears throat] talked about that I would not support a program if it cost us money or time from our perspective. Okay. Anyway, these were just questions that he had sent me. So that's why I I told that I would

Yeah. And one one other thing that was brought up when the humane society was here at the last meeting is that the funding probably future funding would be through grants and everything. So you could tell him that part but like I said the other part I don't really have questions as far as feral cats and their occupancy rate or the duration of their occupancy or anything like that unless Lauren has any I don't have exact numbers. I know that it's overflowing and they they are required to take our cats from the city. Um but other people who try to bring cats in to drop them off that might trap them at their own home can't because they don't have room for them. Well, they don't accept them. So, they let him back in the community.

Yes. U Mr. Oalis said he couldn't be here tonight. So, those were the questions he was going to ask and he asked me if I would convey those questions. So,

okay. I will I will also, your honor, if I may, just for clarification, if you adopt this ordinance, it doesn't mean we have a a trap neutering release program. It simply would authorize the police department to to look into it and do one if we chose to. It would not say the Humane Society or any other organization could do a trap, neuter, and release program. It would simply say we can adopt one if we choose to. So, if it were to be done, I would want to get all of this input and try to come up with a procedure first of all, figure out if there is a cost, what that procedure would look like to address the concerns of Miss Brown and everybody else here. What are those concerns? Could it be addressed? If so, we would provide a procedure to the council to determine whether you want to actually implement the program. The fact that this this ordinance wouldn't actually implement a program, it would just allow us the opportunity to implement one should the council believe that it was appropriate in the future.

And along those same lines, you know, like we've said, this just makes it so it's one of the options on the table. I mean, if somebody has a better idea or something to control that, I mean, because what she's going through, I just can't imagine, you know, having to endure what you are with the feral cats. So, personally, the reason I brought this up is it sounded like the best solution that was out there as far as trying to do something. uh other than I mean well like I said other cities have tried other options and everything and this is what they came up with but uh you know I don't think that this is the end all as uh chief said this isn't saying we're going to do it it just allows us to put that [clears throat] option on the table when we're discussing a possible solution for feral cats because I haven't until we started doing this I hadn't heard a lot of people having problems with feral cats and then you come up and I mean I like you said especially when you told me that you had to tear up your carpet. I just think that that's amazing that you had to make these adaptations. So anyway, any other discussion?

Uh your honor, I just I I haven't had anybody call me that was in favor of it. I I think people are stuck with the fact that they get released back into the hood, the neighborhood. And I think that's where everybody's kind of getting crossways with it because like her, you go capture them and they come back and they still have that same behavior. They still have that wild behavior. And uh so that that that seems to be the hangup for most of that. You know,

it just for sake of argument with it and everything, do they have a different solution then?

I mean, if we vote this down, then that means we're not going to be doing that. So that means that we just keep doing what we've been doing. I mean, you know, she kept trying to get her uh some feral cats trapped out there and uh running up against things with it and and then of course, you know, we've heard by the report that we had last meeting that the cat portion of the Humane Society is overflowing and everything. So I you know that's what I'm trying to look at is you know people are some people are saying well I'm against this but there's not anybody coming up with a better solution. So anyway

anybody else have anything else? Can I continue?

Sure. Uh I um I completely agree with you uh what the comments are and and thank you for the explanation, Chief, because uh that's I think a lot of people just say, "Oh, well, they're going to pass this thing and and um this is what's going to happen." But that's not necessarily true. But uh and [clears throat] I agree with you as far as that's concerned. Uh a partial is better than none. And right now we really don't have a solution for what we what a lot of the problems that we've heard about. And uh we we were inundated with all these comments this last week. And I I read everything. I went through every one of the every one of the um uh the correspondence on them and all the all the emails and stuff. I mean, I'm I'm sure we all did because we were talking about it before before and this man, you know, I'm exhausted by this and I don't see any really anybody with a solution other than tie up your cats or kill them. And uh so I were you going to say something, Chief?

I was just going to say I I would not plan on implementing any program that even if the council were to pass this ordinance, I would not plan on implementing any program without council's approval. Okay. that I would develop a procedure that would would bring it back to council and say this is what we would be doing and let you guys still be determine whether that's what you want to do or choose not to do. Thank you. Thank you. And that's what I would agree with. Thank you.

All right. Anybody else? Well, if you want to hear from everybody, I guess I um I'm going to say this because you made the effort to come again this evening and you provided a lot of written material which I have also read and I've for everything that I've read against TNR, you will find equal number if not more that support TNR. So, the the the data out there is just it's [cough] very conflicting. Um, especially as a person that's not a cat expert, but I have certainly read more about community cats than I've ever thought I would ever do. I see this as just a part of a potential um solution. I don't see this as going anywhere until it's fleshed out. I mean, I'm not saying tomorrow we're starting a trap and neuter and release program until we have a plan to um augment like comms possibly working cats and getting these cats adopted out, putting more effort into getting these cats adopted out to bar as barn cats, working cats, whatever they um call them. Uh I think that this is going to be a piece of additional action. If we do nothing, you still have the cats on your property that exist on your property and that is certainly not helping. So, I think all of us up here are trying to help the situation. And I'm not personally in the cat killing business. Um, I don't think we're going to start, you know, euthanizing cats. So, let's do something to try to alleviate the conditions that you two are facing. And I think this could potentially be part of something.

Agree. All right. Anybody else? All right. Well, I'd entertain a resolution. Well, first, let's see. We've got that motion to close. A motion to close. Discussion. I move to close. Second. So, motion by Doug Sasha, second by Jim Parks. All those in favor say I. I. Oppose. Same sign.

All right. So, next is uh council action. Miss Williams. Yes. Thank you, mayor and councel. Um, you just had held a legislative public hearing on this ordinance um to amend chapter 7 to include trap, neuter, and spay protocols for community cats. And it's up to you to um how you want to vote um to your options are to approve um reject or approve with conditions or table or continue. Thank you. All right. So, I'd entertain a resolution.

I'll offer the resolution. Um, I would offer resolution to amend the municip the municipal code regarding feralcat protocols and author and authorization to publish by title only. I second. Okay. So, I have a resolution by Lauren Boyette, second by Bill Garcia. Vote by roll call. Uh resolution is disapproved. Okay. Next is reports by officials and staff. Mr. Nation.

Okay. A couple things for you real quick. Uh we u officially have reopened the tunnel under the interstate. Uh we kicked out a press release on that. Um been working with Cargill as they've gotten their project closer to completion. Uh we wanted to make sure as they were getting their larger building open that that access was available. Uh so we've gone in there uh my compliments to the parks guys have gone in there and cleaned it and painted the walls again. We actually installed new lighting through that tunnel. It'll have LED lighting now in it at night time. So hopefully that'll make it a little bit safer. Also, um remind everybody that if you're available, we are having a ribbon cutting out at the solar um complex on Thursday at 11:00. And so, it's one of those that mean kind of felt the need to do this. This is the largest of the community solar projects that the 15 communities that participated in that are having. And so, uh the developer of the project Sand Hills, I think, got everybody an invitation. So, um more than welcome to come out and join us. I don't know how warm it's going to be, but uh we'll be out there to cut a ribbon on that one. Uh and also remind everybody that also Thursday night is the parade in downtown um Fort Morgan. And if there's any of you that didn't RSVP for the Christmas party on Friday and you would still like to tell me that you're coming, you can do that tonight. So, I've had one of you tell me, so that's why I'm asking. So, but um let me know before we leave tonight. Do two more. Okay. sent an email to somebody else.

Yeah, you were. But some of you some of you haven't. So, [laughter] I'm not pointing names or calling names. I'm just saying that some of you haven't. So, okay, that's all I got. Thank you. All right, Chief Sharp.

Um, as you know, for about the last 10 months, I've been working on the five-year strategic plan. Um, I sent it all to you via email today, a draft of that. Um, I' I'd ask that if you have a next within the next couple weeks, take a look at that, see if there's anything in there that philosophically you disagree with so that um, I can do a final draft by the next meeting would be my goal to present that to you. Um, but everything's in there. It's thicker than it seems. There is a lot of demographic data and and data from 2024 simply because five years from now when we're looking at that, I want to know where we were, right? So, we want to know where we were and as we're implementing things. Um, I left timelines out of it because my experience I found that sometimes you have a timeline that's going to happen three years from now and there's a reason to go much faster because things change or go slower. So, I left timelines out and I think we as a as a group would be just looking year by year how we want to adapt adopt to those things if we're looking at that. So, um, I ask if you'd get a chance to please look at that and let me know if you have any anything that you would like to um, philosophically oppose or or say something different on there. Um, the other thing is our Blue Santa delivery is going to be December 13th this year. I think we have 93 people that we're going to be serving this year, which is bigger than we've done in the past. Uh, we got Brush to cooperate and help us a lot and we're going to be serving to brush Morgan County and [clears throat] um the city. So, we'll be doing that on December 13th and it's been a good turnout. So, I think that's all I have.

You have anyone in the academy right now? Uh, so we have a graduation right now. the last employee. We just hired a person um that will be he's actually here. He graduates on Friday night. So, I won't be at the dinner at the city city uh Christmas party because I will be at a graduation for our last uh Arapjo County. And I and I'll say this here, we're we're excited. This is a community college or Arapo

Arapo Community College Academy. Um yeah, he's at the academy. Put himself through. And this this is a a kid's born and raised in a well, he was born in a refugee camp in Kenya. He's originally from Somalia. Lived there for the first four years. Came with his family to Aurora and grew up in the Denver area. Um put himself through the academy. He wants to be a police officer in a community where he can make a difference. And Fort Morgan was the place that he chose. and [clears throat] we're excited to have somebody from a different culture to to be in our community representing people in our community.

Okay. Anything from anybody in the back? Looks like shaking heads back there. Okay. Bids, meetings, and announcements. Thank you, mayor. We have two bids open right now for one of them is for 664 niche columbarium unit units and that is um due December 5th at 2:45 p.m. And the second bid is for the inside street and main street storm sewer pipe and that is due December 8th at 3 p.m. And then your next meetings coming up are the planning commission board meeting here at city hall. December 8th at 4:30. December 10th at noon is the airport advisory board meeting at the Fort Morgan Municipal Airport. And then our next city council meeting is here December 16th at 6 p.m.

All right. Um next we'll be going to executive session. And I entertain a motion to adjurnn and go to executive session. Motion to adjurnn. Second. Oh, we just need to make the motion with the base the statuto bases. Thank you. There we go. Blame the open meetings law.

There we go. Make a motion to adjourn to executive session for determining position relative to the matter to matters that may be subject to negotiations, developing strategy and negotiations and instructing negotiations pursuant to CRS 246424 EI and conferences with an attorney for local public body of the purpose of receiving giving legal advice on specific legal questions pursuant to CRS 246 4024B and the following addition additional details are provided for identification purposes

second and then what's after those the what are the relating to the city participation in the northern integrated supply project all right so and and the second we agree that all those in favor say I. I post same sign. Thank you.