Airport Committee - Regular Meeting

to session over here. Let me see what we're going to do first. Okay, we did that. A roll call, please, Blair, if you would.

Member Cooper-Ryder. Sure. Member Ellis. Here. Member McArdle is absent.

Yep, she called in. She's looking to make it today.

Okay. Member Maynard.

Here.

Mayor Pro Temekwa. Here. Mayor Perl.

Here. Very good. Thank you very much. Mr. Perl, would you listen to the pledge, please?

I pledge allegiance to the

Okay, very good. Okay, so this is addressing the committee within the subject matter jurisdiction of the board or the committee over here. Typically, we'll limit everyone to three minutes and let's extend it by the chair. Do we have anyone who would like to comment on an item that's not on the agenda today?

Oops, I'm sorry. Okay. Okay.

OK, exciting Friday. It's on the agenda. Oh, is it? That's OK. The 20-year payment plan is.

That's OK. You can jump ahead.

Is there anyone, I'll repeat this again. Is there anyone who would like to suggest a committee on something that is not on the agenda? Tammy? Yes, thank you.

Well, I'm excited that a sound machine has been rented and I'm happy to have it put in my yard. How long will they have it rented for?

I think we have it for a 14-day period. For what? A 14-day period.

Because my understanding is next week, you guys will have the runway shut down 6 to 5 for work on the runways, 21st, 24th, et cetera.

I think so.

Yeah. So we'll get just one full week after that of accurate measurements.

I don't believe that's the end of the runway.

The runway is not shut down. It's not.

Oh, can planes still take off without using a taxiway?

Yeah, they can use a taxiway.

I think just near where the new pavement's going, right? They just need what?

Where the new pavement's going by X hangars, but regular. Correct. But we would still, or where our hangar is, we could still ask.

So planes will still be going? Yes. Oh, I was thinking I'm going to have a whole week of quiet, but okay, no. Okay, I texted you my number, so. I got that, thank you. Yeah, we'll be in touch after this, yeah. Yeah, okay. Okay. I know we're doing the measurement for noise. I just have one more thing I wanted to toss out. The planes coming in from Auburn and the other areas, can you consider having them fly a little bit north of the Lincoln Logs as opposed to flying right over our houses to come in to catch the runway?

That's a good idea in concept and theory. standard FAA protocols of how to enter the 45. We have come all the way to the south, come in over here. I can't hear you. Can you say it a little louder? Sure. It goes against what you're asking for, goes against FAA protocols of the standard patent entry. And so, you know, it just, we looked at it and we just said, no, that we don't want to get involved in that at this point. So they're still going to be coming in over here. I think the majority of the noise complaints are the pilots doing bomber patterns so far out of the norm, rather than from a half mile to no more than a mile, they're getting to a mile to a mile and a half. And my understanding is that we've reduced that frequency. We still have work to do. So we've communicated with all of our flight schools here and also with the ones up in Oliver. So that's a work in progress. That's where the vast majority of the noise locally generated is coming from.

Okay, because there has been some reduction with tighter circuits, but there's still plenty that are going way outside the FAA guidelines.

It's a guideline, and we talk to them about it. It's pilot discretion. we're approaching it both from the standpoint of noise abatement and also for safety. Because frankly, if they do the mile to a mile and a half, there's no way that a standard airplane is going to come back and be able to make the runway if they have an engine out on it. We understand that. We're working with them, working with flight schools to make sure that they fully understand it and appreciate it and tighten up the pattern for everyone's benefit.

Will it be posted on the city's website when you get airport flight planning? Will it be posted in there as well?

I think if we haven't done it, we can do that. We can put that on there as guidance. Sure. Thank you. It's within FAA guidelines. Great. Anyone else? All right, very good. In that case, we'll move on to item number five, approval of the minutes. Anyone have any corrections? Motion to accept. Motion made. Second? Second, Bob. Thank you very much. All those that say aye. Aye. Approved. 5-0. Very good. Thank you very much. OK. Staff updates, Scott and Matt.

Oh, um, Let's see, so operation-wise, we haven't been doing too much aside from we did Wings and Wheels, and we'll talk about that later, but before Wings and Wheels, I had five staffs there for an entire week, so we just beat the heck out of that entire place to try to print it up for the event. Aside from that, operationally, we don't really have anything going on aside from that currently.

I think Matt told me it was like 200 staff hours.

Does that sound about right? Pretty close, yeah. A couple more updates. One of the things Scott and I are going to be looking at as part of the CAM fee program improvements, we're going to be looking at some of the storm drain concrete collars at the north end of the apron and around the hangers and look at putting the other repair project for that using some of the CAM charges. And then another update is, again, we did get the sound equipment. I think it was around $3,000 or so for the rental . So we are obligated to ship that back on a schedule. And then the discussions with KTRO and getting the operations contract in place, those negotiations are ongoing. Right now, I think the earliest they'll be getting started is November 1st, but that's, you know, we're continuing discussions on their start date and the transition plan. They have talked to the two staff that we have out there, and they have expressed mutual interest in potentially working together as far as potentially during a transitional period and or an ongoing transition. you know, kind of like arrangement with their company as our full-time staff person continues to anticipate retiring at the end of the year.

All right.

I have a question about that. Has that actually been approved? I've never seen anything.

The contract did go to city council. The city manager was authorized to complete negotiations as well as a transition plan. We had a tentative agreement As far as compensation during the transition plan. As, whereas the city would pay the contractor, the proportional share of hours that they're going to be staffed with employees versus the city employees. So. whatever proportional share, whatever percentage of time they're covering during that transition will pay that proportion of the management contract. And then they will upon commencement initiate the 6 cents per flowage fee, as well as the 10% markup on any maintenance that they contract for, any of the small maintenance. So that's the tentative negotiation right now. Right now they're asking for some information on standard operating procedures as well as insurance requirements at their other facilities. I think they're Phillips 66 and they have some very detailed prescribed SOPs as well as insurance requirements. So they're asking us to provide some information as far as how the city does business. So there's a little bit of work to do on that end.

What is the projected start date of the actual takeover?

The full takeover, what we reported to council was the target was the first of the year. So transition period, you know, for maybe a few months. And then if they're able to get there, that's the goal is the first of the year.

One of the biggest takeaways there is that their contract calls for staffing 11 hours a day, seven days a week, which is a mark. It's going to be very helpful, I'm sure, to all the pilots. Any other questions about operations? Okay, very good. Fuel sales.

Fuel sales. So the fuel sales, let's see, we are showing that, you know, a marginal increase over last year, primarily for jet fuel. One item to note is the jet fuel average cost for July and August appears to be an error. And in fact, it is not an error. One of the times when it was reported the Strait of Hormuz was back open, there was a steep drop in jet fuel prices. for a couple of days, and that's when we purchased. So we got a very timely purchase, and within a week or two, it was back to the higher price. But I guess we got the benefit of one of those price fluctuations. But as you can see, Avgas is down marginally, but jet fuel sales are up, and we'll just continue to track fuel sales and report monthly.

Read all of them, 64 cents. Oh, okay. Cool, all right. All right, very good. Okay, airport improvement plans.

Okay, this will be a real brief update. And I know this exhibit is hard to read at eight and a half by 11. But essentially, we're continuing to make progress on the 2029 reconstruction of the runway project. And then the next project development timeline is a couple years later. That's wishful thinking. I don't know that that's in fact when we'll get the funding, but for now, this is the draft. We just met with the FAA, went over, we're going to make some minor corrections, but this is generally the schedule. So yeah, we are still on track for the runway reconstruction. I just wanted to report that out.

Good deal. And yes, it's a little bit hard to read. One of the things that we see in here is I think of importance you have to keep in mind is the local match. Yes. Five percent, which in 2029 is one point zero, a million dollars. And then over the next couple of years with everything else, it's a one point one percent. that we have to find somehow, somewhere, come up with, because that's the local match at 5%.

So how is that adjusting by finding that money?

Slowly.

Slowly. Well, there's a couple of things, and they're further down the agenda, but the hanger reversing the referral program, which... still on my priority list. That'll be one potential avenue to extend the duration. I know there's at least one hangar tenant that wants to extend their lease. I think they have 17 years. They want to extend to a 30 year. But we have at least three. So there's interest they'll be at an actual savings and advantage other than just time because we want to incentivize them to renew now and not renew later. So there needs to be some kind of financial incentive that they don't postpone and look for an incentive later. So there's going to be a period of time where there'll be probably an incentive savings. Maybe it's a 10%. That'll be something that I'll bring to the airport committee for discussion. That's something to entice folks to extend now. But, you know, we'll have to negotiate probably individually how much is amortized into their monthly rate and how much they want to advance the lump sum. And we'll have to incentivize them to do that as far instead of amortizing and just adding on to their current ground lease rate.

And would that money then go into the 5% match? Or does it go into the general fund?

Yeah, well, so not the general. other sections of money, right? So it has one fund for just general airport operations. So any revenues that come in go into that. That's correct.

So there's no guarantee it's going to start at that branch at all?

No, it's not designated as deferred. This committee and the council really, it's a council decision. We need to decide if they were going to set aside a section of revenues or something of that sort.

Because one-time fees that we get like that shouldn't go into an operating budget. They need to go into something that is a one-time thing that we've got to do like capital improvements.

I think we're in agreement with you. Yeah, we have a lot of one-time obligations, and we have two problems to solve. The near-term problem is the large capital investment required with the match, and we're going to get into the payment management plan. We have a brief executive summary. It's not three sentences, but... less than three pages later in the agenda, as well as the city council has put in the strategic plan that the airport develop a master plan. So that would include long-term financial planning for those capital requirements. So there's no shortage of work to be done. We're well aware that we have near-term and long-term financial planning needs.

Well, Bob, the reality is that we know it's got to go into, it's got to be spent on this. We have to put money away. We have to have it. Money has to be available one way or the other in 2029. I mean, the runway has to be done or the airport. closes, right? I mean, you just can't have that or die of its own volition. So we know that it's going to be done. It's just a matter of how we work through between now and 2029 to maximize the full amount of money that we've got. On a cash basis, I mean, we do, we are We generate positive cash flow, but on a P&L basis, you know, we're still on the ball a little bit in the red. But cash-wise, you know, we're at least now, we are in a positive cash position where we hadn't been in the past. And a number of the initiatives that we're taking now are going to go to boost the revenue in the city. And we all, everyone understands that the money has to be there. The money has to... It just has to be done. So it will be done. The accounting of it, you know, still to be determined. But it's not like this is going into the general fund and we'll hopefully get the money back in 2029. No. As Nita said, it goes into the general fund, into the airport fund, stays in the airport fund.

And a couple other potential options. You know, one that we'd considered before was sale of some of the city-owned hangars. But For the business at hand, which was transitioning to professional management, the increase in revenue from the South Placer hangers, which is over $10,000 a month, that's helping offset the increase in expense for the professional management plan. So in the near term, we're taking that monthly revenue, but that's always on the table to sell some hangers if necessary. that were the only and last option. But we want to avoid that to the extent possible and continue to collect that monthly revenue. I think it's in the best interest of the airport long term, but that's kind of like a parachute if we don't come up with another better strategy.

And one of the reasons that we went to an outside firm to demand I mean, but to drive the top line, to drive revenue. And that's what these guys have been able to do in other airports, and that's what we're counting on for them to do here. They've got the contacts, and we may get on the business-to-business relationship.

Okay, well, I would like some kind of record keeping of that so that we know how we're progressing because that is a fixed amount at a fixed time that we need to have. And if it's just all kind of, well, we're working this, working that, that's, we don't know. Here on the committee, we don't know how it's progressing.

We see the quarterly P&Ls now. So we can see where we stand financially.

But we need a separate account on the balance sheet to see that so that we know.

I think that's a very good point. And I think as part of the airport master plan, what we need to identify is like capital reserves, right? I mean, we're on a subset level budget right now. We need to identify a revenue source so we can build capital reserves. We're in the hole. We have long-term financial debt. I think some of it's getting paid off soon, but there's a bigger long-term 72-year obligation.

The green hangers I think will be paid off fully in two years. That's about $150,000 a year that goes away. The other $140,000 who goes to pay back the general fund for the accumulated negative retained earnings that the general fund had picked up because the annual losses were not recognized historically. That's been fixed. And now we're paying back the general fund at $140,000 a year. But that's going to go on, not for 72. I think we're only down to 55 right now. 69, I think. It's a 60-year loan, and I think we're four years into it. Yeah.

But those are things that if we could see that we're going to be short on that match, that loan could have its terms extended so that we weren't having to pay so much into that and get it into a capital plan if we're tracking a capital plan.

near the lowest of 75.

Well, I'm saying that's an example of what we can do as this progresses.

I understand your concern. You're absolutely right. I mean, you know, as we go through the next months and one or two years, I think the economics and the finances are going to change and then we can formalize what Matt was talking about. Because, yes, I mean, a standard business would put money away for, you know, capital reserve, known capital reserves. So,

not there at this point because we would put it in but there's not there's no there to there to put it in at this point right so we need first need to get the there and the first step really it's developing which we probably will in workshop the strategic plan and one of the goals of the strategic strategic plan is to have a viable financial plan and capital reserve plan for future um unfunded liabilities and obligations. So certainly that's going to be part of it. You're going to be part of the workshop. I'm sure you're not going anywhere. So that's work to be done that we're all going to be doing.

There's like two other, three other things. First off, we'll talk about it later, but hanger reversion for lease extension. So we can talk about it later, but I think Byron was the first person to folks that have leases, ground leases, and private hangers that are now starting to come in wanting extensions, and they even want early extensions, they only have 15 years left, another 40 year or 30 year, that a capital fee associated with giving people multiple decades of land rights is appropriate and can go into this kitty that you're talking about. And then the other idea I had the other day, because we're thinking through the airport budget on a different level, is once we get our portion of the runway funded, I think that the strategy needs to change rapidly, and we need to seriously talk internally about restructuring that 60-year loan in the reverse, i.e. making it a reasonable term that can be paid off quickly to get out of under that debt, because, you know, It's a nice loan to have for over 60 years, but it's $140,000 forever, essentially.

The reason it was at $140,000 a year for 60 years, that was basically the only feasible amount of money that the airport could absorb at that point. So that's the derivation of that. It just turned out to be 60 years.

And one thing I'd just like to note about Just the current operation. One of the primary reasons to bring on the professional management is to increase the top line revenue, like the mayor has said. So not only that, but supporting economic development, making sure it's a project successful, making sure that next build and potentially like some of the flight line development, there's a lot of interest. So really, we're trying to level up the airport, support development. I know Byron's got another project right there on Flightline. So we're trying to support development, help the folks that want breathe life into the airport. So staff's making a tremendous effort in all departments. I know Nita's got short-term things and I have short-term things helping Ed be successful. Byron's got plans in the queue. So holistically, the city's providing a whole lot of support to the airport right now.

And just following up on what Matt was saying, most smaller GA airports lose money on operations and they make building opportunities for businesses around them like like auburn they would lose money on their operations but because their footprint for all that all that commercial development right over there that's where they get their fund balances coming in from and so we have that opportunity with the a4 acres across the street which is prime ready to go and not even talk about anything on the on the west side yeah

And I have one more surprise later about funding, but it's in a later agenda item. Is that ready to go?

I'm not surprised at that. What? I had them already on. Okay. Any other questions on that item before we go on the airport capital? 6C.

6C, yeah, we're beyond 6C. We're on the 6B. So 6D is the maintenance management plan. And I ended up generating a staff report as the mayor called me this morning and asked for an executive summary. So there should be an attachment with an executive summary. Essentially, it establishes a 20-year roadmap for maintaining, rehabilitating, reconstructing the asphalt out there. There's a whole, I think there's, you know, like 100 megabytes of photos that Bramley Engineering provided. So we have a very thorough evaluation of the payment out there. Everybody sees it every day. You have a general sense of what the conditions are. This formalizes the recommended maintenance plan over a 20-year horizon and kind of identifies what those financial obligations that... We were all just discussing meeting, what's generally required. Now, similar to like a street payment management program, funding is always a challenge. Typically, the funding is not available to fulfill all the needs. It's always a challenge. But some of the near-term identified obligations, flight, line, drive, there's a portion somewhat degraded, probably a lot due to the, you know, the garbage trucks that frequent the road. I know those have an impact. The south plaster hangers at the south end of there, we know the pavement's degraded around there. The runway, we know the runway reconstruction is scheduled for 2029. The taxiways are after that. FAA has told us in the past that, hey, you know, we're deferring some other airports. 2029 is your year. We're going to fund your project, but don't expect another big chunk of money anytime soon. Although they saw the schedule when we were meeting about the timeline and like, hey, why is that so far off? Shouldn't it be sooner? And we're like, heck yeah, it should be sooner. If you guys will support us, we'll move it up. And they were like, oh, yeah. I was like, the last time you told us you weren't going to fund us. So maybe that's changing. You know, we meet with them at least once a year to discuss our CIP. So at the end, you know, the timeframes recommendations is flight line drive, south cluster hangars, the runway, preventative maintenance, which we'll get into on a subsequent item. So this is the general summary. You know, there's, you know, $35 million in construction. over the next 20 year period, obviously we need to come up with a financial plan as part of our airport master plan. So that's a general summary. It's a very long and detailed report, but essentially we have a good grasp of what the pavement conditions are and the general recommendations on the preventative maintenance required to maximize the useful life of the asphalt that's out there.

And I misspoke. It wasn't 300 pages. It was only 245.

But it is linked to the agenda. So, you know, get a glass of wine and Put the, like the fireplace and enjoy. Do they rate that like an ABCD or how do they rate it? PCI, the payment condition index is on a scale of zero to 100, but they do categorize, you know, subjective. It's, you know, like 90 to 100 is good. And I'd have to look at the report to see, you know, there's like fair or there's, I think there's, you know, very good, good, fair, poor, you know, but I'd have to look at the staff report to see, but inside the staff report, there is a table that labels payment condition and next, but typically, you know, payment that's like less than five years old, it's like in the high nineties, you know, but there is a steep curve, um, As the pavement continues to degrade, the pavement condition index accelerates down faster. As there's more openings in the pavement, more water gets in, and more water gets in, it kind of accelerates the degradation. That's why a crack seal is important to keep the water out, as well as seal coats, and that's... I'm going to talk about, I think, on the next agenda item is the work that I've planned in the near term. So help with that.

There's a lot of information in that report, including remaining life, everything out there. So really, it's not fun reading, but there's a lot, a huge amount of information. Yeah.

And the payment condition index is a kind of a visual gradation, right? It's not like a structural gradation.

like. Any other questions on the pavement? We've been staying for a long time.

Okay, Craxial. Craxial, that's the good news. It was a good segue. I did provide an exhibit, I think it's 6E, and it looks like purplish blue, and that's actually the area the apron which if you notice um basically meets the new pavement area on the north side so that apron will get cracked seal and it will get a seal coat so it's not a slurry seal it doesn't have the aggregate like the sand material because i guess that wears and then it's just you know contributes to thawed so essentially we're going to have crack seal and a seal coat for that area. And then there's been discussion about using or advancing $100,000 of the CAM charge. And while this contractor is out there, adding an additional area. So I had Brantley Engineering look at You know, how much of an area are we talking about? So the boxes, the dash boxes in blue, green, and red at the north end hangars? That identifies an approximate area. We could choose one of those areas if we were going to do foot crack and seal coat. And this is just approximate. Or we can only do crack seal and get to a portion there of the three. And I don't know if we can cover the entire area. It's just very preliminary. And I need to work with Brandly to make sure we use that resource. To the extent possible, but the management level we have talked about using some of those can charges. Early knowing we're going to be recovering those funds and just use this opportunity since we have a contractor out there with a good big price to get some work done.

Yeah, it goes all the way, and you can follow that. It goes straight out to the gate on the east. That area has been hammered. It's heavy, heavy traffic, and then with the construction, it's been hammered. And if you want a telltale sign, there's a there's a drain right there by the gate that is just getting ready to cave in, just because of all the weight that's been on it.

Byron, can you say that again, which section?

Yeah, so if you look at Taxiway G, the gulf, right? If you follow that, all the way straight east, it goes all the way to a gate there. Oh, okay. And that area has been just pummeled.

Are you thinking, Byron, switching the work on Taxiway E to Taxiway gulf?

I mean, yeah, he's not used nearly as much. Yeah, we're not changing what's done, what's on the map.

What we're talking about is these three areas, and I think what Brian's saying is the area adjacent to Ed's project, just to the north, has been degraded. Now, that's good information. I know Brantley has a very good grasp on what the conditions are out there. Sometimes with the seal coat, you know, that's... best applied to areas with the highest PCI, right? Not the lowest PCI, but we'll take a look at it. We're gonna look at where we get the most value, but we'll certainly look at that area.

Yeah, that G gets used a lot because we've got a 6,000 foot runway and a lot of people When they land, they exit on G. So you are talking G from runway to taxiway. Yeah, all the way up through that gate. And that drain needs to be fixed. That drain is getting rid of craters.

Which drain is that?

That drain is right here. It's right by the gate. There's a little box right here by the gate. Okay, that one. Yeah, that one's hammered.

Okay, that one's hammered, but then. I don't have any trucks coming in here for construction. So it's all of the traffic, the bob tails that are coming in right there. But I will say that between your line, the red line and the green line right there, if you go down. there's a slope between the red and the green and that pavement is actually failing. I mean, there's a huge step in it.

And you take that offline with, oh, I'm sorry, Matt. No, that's fine. You can bring it up, but just take it offline to talk with Matt Scott on it. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah.

We're going to work with Brandly Engineering to identify the most appropriate area, but we'll certainly look at Taxi G and make sure if that's, you know, an area that warrants additional work, we'll certainly do that.

It gets used way more than you.

Yeah, and I like applying the resources to the highest traffic areas, certainly.

Thank you. Any other questions, comments, thoughts?

I think it's going to be interesting this year to The weather forecasters are right, and they're saying that this is going to be a very powerful El Nino. If we get pummeled with rain, it's going to be very interesting to see how that pavement handles all that.

Yeah, and so the contractor has mentioned they might want to start some of the work this year, but that will be actually in the spring so see if we can encourage him to beat the weather and do as much as they can before but right now and talking to brandley and how the process has worked with getting fa approvals and everything right now it looks like the majority of the work will be in the spring thing that we still need to work through is there's some very large cracks that are beyond what a typical crack seal would address and you'd need a VASTIC. So that's going to be another thing that may require some of that TM charge funding if You know, if we're not able to maybe extend the crack and seal coat, it might be something where the big cracks get addressed with mastic to make sure that this area we're doing is done properly.

What's the thought behind the run-up area on the north side with Keyla? Because I know, I haven't been out there for a while, but I know that there were some serious cracks out there on the north end.

They're still there.

Yeah. So, yeah. And that's, and that's the cam charges. And some of the, I think Brantley told me that FAA only will support funding of taxiways, 25 foot centered on the center line of the taxiway.

Yeah.

So outside of that area is not FAA funded. So that's another thing. Like if we do crack and seal coat, you know, it's just going to be center. It's not going to be, well, actually no, I'll take that back because we're using cam charges. We can't, partially why we went into the taxiway areas, because those are the highest use.

Okay.

Just wanted to get that on the radar, because the last time I was out there, they were pretty severe. We have no shortage of payment management needs at the airport.

Those cracks are the same everywhere. Same, as you see on the north-south end, some are two inches. We have some on the runway, other taxiways that

And that's one of the reasons why a couple years ago, you know, Sean authorized us to start doing some spot crack sealing out the airport because we knew, you know, just the FAA, the large-scale CIPs wasn't going to be sufficient. And I know Scott and his team, I think, did the fuel farm area. But because of the extensive cracks... You know, it takes a lot of the crack steel material. It doesn't go very far. So, yeah, it's expensive, and it's very time-consuming. We're well aware we have a lot of work to do out there. Which is one of the reasons we put the cam charge in there. And prioritize paving as part of that program.

Okay, executive action development. Ted, do you want to go first? Sure.

I have some awesome news because all this asphalt right here was right there. Cam chargers are going towards that. We don't have to wait for any funds from the FAA because I'm buying it. And it's going to be new, so it's not going to be a slurry seal. So it's 12 million pounds of asphalt that are coming in. And you guys watch this. watch this build from when we started back in August. It became real for me when I said, OK, let's go ahead and get the machinery in there. Let's go tear some stuff up. So thank you so very much for working with us. This has been, for me, it's been a milestone project in my lifetime. And it's really coming to fruition. So the end is near as far as getting this asphalt done. So test trip Friday, and then next week we'll finish up the asphalt. So there you go. And it's 12 million pounds of asphalt, and it's a ton of money. So would I do it again in the right conditions? I would do it again. In the right conditions, I wouldn't do it yet. But I'm really happy that we started the project last year because if I was to start the project now, I would say, no, can't do it. Now with the prices of oil, asphalt, steel, concrete, and everything, that's just going sky high. So... So the blessing, though, is that we started last year, and the blessing is now that we get to finish, we're going to get up three of the five buildings in this first phase, and we're upping the standard of the airport. And this isn't just my project. This is everybody's project here in the room. Everybody here has had a hand in it, and I'm very grateful. Some of you guys here, you know, I've talked to you on nights or weekends or after hours, which you guys all have lives after hours or even before hours. And I really respect that. And so thank you very much.

When is the ribbon cutting in? Grand opening celebration.

So, so, so I was actually going to be talking to your fantastic mayor. We'll come up with a date.

So, as long as it's within this. It definitely I wouldn't take that.

It definitely will. So again, thank you for being a part of this. I was talking to someone last week on the state level. I won't say who, but anyways, very high up in the state level. And it turned into not just a meet and greet, but this individual was very interested in what we're doing here at Lincoln and how we're upping the standard. Because usually the top 10 airports in the state, they get all the attention. And then it's like, okay. what are you guys doing out there in Lincoln? So we're getting more up-level people at the state level, understanding that, hey, Lincoln is a viable airport. And we're all working together, not to keep it linear, but also just to grow it, right? And that's the fun part of it, because it enhances a lot of people's lives. So thank you.

Thank you, because what you took on and are accomplishing is jump-starting the development out of the airport. Because until other people see action and see something come out of the ground, it's all just theory and very nice. But now what you've created is the visual that's going to drive the airport forward. You know, there are other people coming in and wanting to participate in that success and continue that along.

There's been a narrative, not in recent years, but for that, probably a lot of people that have been at the airport remember about whether the city should even have the airport anymore and whether it made sense to continue to subsidize it. And in fact, there are some people that still are contacting that feel pretty strongly about that. So it's always really easy for me to kind of point towards, hey, I could see that argument maybe 10 years ago, but we have tens of millions of dollars, but not more than that being invested in the airport right now. So it is quite right.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Ed. So when's the groundbreaking?

or december grand opening yes yes and we're gonna obviously have it catered and we're gonna do a lot of great things champagne toast maybe Oh, yeah. I'll provide all the champagne you guys want. I won't drink, but you guys can have all of it. You know what? I will say one more thing. You know, Wings and Wheels, you guys, everybody here had a part in that. And the feedback that I get on our community events, it's wonderful. I mean, not only our airport, but we have a taste of Lincoln coming up. You know, you guys really, really put your heart and soul into this city. It's fantastic. I mean, I don't see this happening in... Anyways, I'll just say that Lincoln's badass.

Yeah. Well, I just wanted to give the credit for that. We definitely are big helpers and... the credit is due for the Chamber of Commerce that puts on the D.C. Lincoln and partnered with Mirror Pearl for that event. We couldn't do these things without them. But it's definitely, it's collaborative, but they're the driver. We really help a lot. It's like everything else. It couldn't be one without the other. And I think that that is what makes us unique is that we are I think good partners with all the organizations so that these things all succeed.

Definitely, definitely.

Cool.

One last update. I did send out a notice, a formal notice about the paving. paving work that Ed mentioned. And if you didn't get that email, please let me know and I can add you to the airport stakeholders email list because we're sending out emails all the time and we're going to be sending out an email on the next item later this afternoon. But I think we're ready for the next item.

Any other questions on the hangar wait list? Oh, okay.

So I just put this on here to let everyone know that I have not forgotten about these items. They're on my priority list. Not saying they're at the very top, but they're on my list. And so the hangar waitlist program's definitely getting a lot, or I'm getting a lot of emails. There's a lot of interest. I need to send that out again to the airport, the broader airport group for feedback. Um, and then bring it back to this committee. Um, I did get. Um, I noticed that we have, um. Several vacant hangers now, so, um. You know, I'm not sure whether we want to get those filled off the old list. Or we want to, um. Wait for the new structured, prioritized, um. format, but that's something that I'll probably be talking shortly because I got those today. We were kind of on hold with all the construction and the movement going on at the airport, but there are several vacant hangars that will need to get filled in the very near future. So that hangar waitlist program, we did talk about an initial framework. We got some preliminary feedback from the airport committee. The airport committee directed us to go back out and seek additional feedback, which have yet to do. So I'll try to get that out this afternoon or before the end of the week. But we did get various comments from several committee members as well as a few members that had heard about it. But we'll go with a broader net, try to get more feedback and report back to the airport committee. I would imagine we'll reserve at least a few of the vacant hangers for the new program, but maybe we'll get some filled sooner than that. The hangar version deferral program, we talked about that. I have a very conceptual framework established, but that's something that I need to formalize and bring to the airport committee. And I was, I was thinking, because this is not my full time job. That the hangar waitlist program will probably return next month, which will be October. Hangar version deferral will probably be November. And then we'll have to talk about an airport master plan workshop in December. I think that's a manageable workload. But of course, I work at the pleasure of the city manager. So if it needs to get done sooner, it will. But to me, that's the logical timeline. So I just wanted to report back that those things are still in the queue. And I think that's what that is.

Any questions on that item? All right. Good. We'll move on to H-Flying Legends and Victory Tour B-17. And in the late spring, I was approached by the commemorative Air Force. I always want to call it the Confederate Air Force, but that's the commemorative Air Force. And I think that, Ed, you got them linked up with me. They previously had come to McClellan. They had been out there. They did not have the greatest experience out there. And so they wanted to know whether we would host them. And I said, bring it on, let's do it. We'll show you Lincoln style. And so I'm trying to get them for Wings and Wheels this year. They couldn't make it, but they're here now. They flew in the late Sunday and Scott actually took a fabulous picture of the B-17 at sunset. And so for Tuesday, starting yesterday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, they're doing ground tours. From 9 until 5. And then Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, they'll fly in the morning and then do ground tours in the afternoon. If anyone doesn't know, the ground tours are $10 per person for adults. Kids are free. Family of four is $20. And the rides go for anywhere between, I think, $415 and $850, depending on where you're seating. They're doing very, very well in terms of their ticket sales for the rides, which is very encouraging, of course. And so they're overjoyed. We've had a lot of exposure within the media, more to come. We'll see how the next couple of days plays out. I suspect that on Saturday and Sunday, we'll get a lot of traffic out there. People have really heard about it. And once that B-17 starts doing circuits over the community, a lot of people are going to come out there starting on Friday. which will be good. So they are fully supported. They come with their own van, and so they sell everything, all the paraphernalia out of that, and they can move the airplane around. They've got a tow bar, and so it's a great opportunity for us to showcase Lincoln for the greater Sacramento region area. And I've got a commitment from them that next year, they'll bring the 17 and the V25 to Lincoln for Wings and Wheels, which will be the last week in August. So that'll be a fabulous opportunity to really jumpstart that next year. But having 17 over here, I think it is just absolutely super. So that story is going on as we speak right now. They're out there. The pilots are coming back in, I think, tonight or tomorrow night. and then we'll start flying on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Because we like to wrap things up in Lincoln, we decided to have a B-17 dinner on Saturday night, and so we're using Zach Rockwell's hangar, and it's a catered barbecue for Hops and Hogs is catering it, and then we've got tours of the B-17, and Ty Ramey is coming up from Stockton, He'll talk about the backstory of making the masters of the air. The flight crew will talk about what's going, you know, ask questions and answer questions about the B-17. There will be a lot of fun out there. The gate's at 5 o'clock. Dim starts around 7, about 6 o'clock. So things are very good. I just happen to have... QR code over here. So if you haven't bought your ticket at this point, come up and see me afterward. Scan that, get your seat in there, and it'll be a lot of fun. So any questions on that? What we've got going with the B-17?

What did you do? We changed their starter yesterday.

What do you mean?

They had a blown starter in one of the motors. We changed it.

Okay. Oh, good. So we're getting money out of them.

Perfect.

They were supposed to come in on Monday. Then they came in on Sunday. They were late coming in because they had some engine problems. So they got in here a little bit late.

And they fix that from here on Monday, and they'll take off and go to Grovo. And I'm not sure where they're going, you know, after that. But, yeah, it's a special opportunity for us, and we're overjoyed that they selected us. We show how we can do it Lincoln style. So any questions on that? See, if you haven't gotten your tickets, you need to get tickets. You need to get tickets. You need to get tickets. You need to get tickets.

Well, I promoted your event at the regional BIA. Oh, good.

All right. Let's go on to Wings and Wheels. Thank God that's over for this year. We're still finishing up the accounting. We did well. We covered all the expenses. We have money left over also, as we have continuously to give to the EAA for the slight scholarship fund. So that's good. For me, and I think for all of us in the pilot community, the best news was in addition to having everyone seeing, just seeing everyone's enjoyment out there with all the families, it was safe. When you have spinning props and moving cars and kids, you know, there's not that much control. You know, things can happen, but we've never had an incident. of everyone involved, especially the EAA, which is out there marshalling and handling all of the aircraft, and especially going over the top and making sure that everything was done right and on time. Everything just turned out really well from the opening ceremony all the way to the end of it. It was a really good experience. We had more people, certainly on Friday night than we had any time in the past. I think we had more people on Saturday also, so we continued to ramp it up. The EA and the other people in the aerospace, the Youth Aerospace Expo. Everyone had a great time there watching the kids. You know, we had flight sims there. We had stuff from Beale and the Aerospace Museum. Everyone had a really good time. So it was just great. We had super weather, except for the wind that stopped us from doing a lot of the work that we had anticipated with the balloons. So if it's not... raining and it's not, you know, we can pick up a little bit of wind, but it's aviation, you know, you do with what you can. And we did the best we can. And the balloon guys, you know, certainly did what they could. So it was really good. Okay.

Let's go to the video. Before you do, did you want to give a shout out to the band that you got to make the song?

Oh, the song. Okay, so what you're going to see is a video, one of the videographers. We have five photographers and one videographer, Paul Elkin. He's a professional. He is a licensed drone pilot, and he came up. Also, you'll hear the soundtrack. It's just super. It's a one-off. Hit it.

Doesn't want to do anything. This is the one from the email. Do you want me to pull?

All right. Kick off the weekend. The sun's going down. Food trucks are rolling music. Wings and wheels, oh what a show. Classic cars, planes in a row. Family fun, dreams take flight. Lincoln shines in the summer.

Good thing I don't have a guitar right now because I am singing.

Take flight. 10,000 voices fill the air Lincoln's magic everywhere Wings and wheels Oh what a show Classic Dreams take flight, blink and shine.

Anyway, a lot of work went into this by so many people, and it turned out just absolutely fine. So thanks for everyone who really got involved with this job. And then next year, we'll wrap it up even more. I've got a couple of ideas how we can do that. But having the B-17 and the 25 people really set it up, that would be fun.

We'll be getting a new original song.

We'll see how it goes. USA, yeah. A lot of moving parts. Anyway, okay, good. New and continuing businesses. Anyone have anything to report? All right. In that case, next scheduled meeting is October 21st at 10 o'clock. We're done. Great.