Planning Commission - Special Meeting

April 7th, 2025 uh is called to order. Everyone, please rise for the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. God hate these chairs. Item two is roll call. Roll call. Mr. Frederick, present. Mr. Gloely here. Mr. Mcanelli. Excused. Excuse. Mr. Long here. Miss Roscoll here. Welcome back, Miss Jameson. here. Mr. Crover here is here. Chair Frighter here. Excuse me. Item three is approval of the agenda. So move, Madam Chair. Support. Who supported that? Okay. I have a motion for Mr. Gladfeld. Madam Chair, did you want to make an amendment to the uh I'm going to as soon as we get done with the those approvals. Yeah. Um Mr. Gladfelty, right? Yes. And approve. Uh second, Mrs. Mr. Jameson. Any discussion? No. Okay. Mr. Gladfelty. Yes. Mr. M Jameson. Yes.

Miss Rasco. Yes. Mr. Long. Yes. Mr. Krova. Yes. Uh Mr. Bad. Yes. Mr. Frederick. Yes. Chairbo Jess. The agenda is approved. Item four is approval of the minutes. And uh that is the approval minutes of the regular planning commission meeting held on Monday, March 17, 2025. So moved support. I have a motion from Miss Jameson supported by Mr. Long. Yes. To approve the minutes. Any discussion. Mr. Jameson? Yes. Mr. Long? Yes. Mr. Gladfeld? Yes. Mr. Kroga? Yes. Mr. Frederick? Yes. Mr. Bid? Yes. Miss Rasco? If Chair? Yes. minutes are approved. Before before we proceed on any further, when we get into the public hearings, we're going to swap them. We're going to B is going to become A and A is going to become B because B is uh the item for that is going to take a lot less time than unfortunately than super Y is. So, Madam Chair, I think what we probably want to do is make a motion. Oh, to switch them. Yeah. Yep. under we could have done it under approval of the agenda maybe I should have I don't know what I was thinking I can make a motion okay Mr. Pope is making the motion madam chair I would I would like to make a motion to alter the agenda to make um under public hearing item B gem seal PMG seal master they're reszoning approval to be the first uh public hearing today to be A and the other one be B okay support Mr. What? Okay.

Okay. So, the motion is to move Gem Seal uh RZ 2022502 to the to the A position to the first position and Super Y Plaza to the B position. Mr. Krova, yes. Mr. Bad, yes. Mr. Gladfelt, yes. Miss Jameson, yes. Miss Rasco, yes. Mr. Long, yes. Mr. Frederick, yes. Chair, yes, we have swapped them. Okay, we will move along now to item five, which comments from the public on non-aggenda items. Is there anyone here who wishes to speak on anything that's not on our agenda tonight? Seeing no one, we will move right along. And that brings us to public hearings. And the first one again is RZ2025502 gem seal PMG Sealmaster requesting a resoning approval for 2855 Van Horn Road to reszone 94.94 acre lot from M1 Light Industrial to MT Industrial Transportation for the purpose of expanding the business at 27989 Vanborn room is just yours here. Good evening. Good evening. Jim Butler with PA Group. Address is 1849 Pond Run, Auburn Hills, Michigan 48326. Um we're here this evening requesting a resoning of the property at 2855 Van Road. Um you might recognize

this reszoning is the site because it's adjacent to a site that we yeah reszone back in 2021 from M1 to Right. How do I advance this? Pardon me. Here I'll go advance this. Hit the advance button. Can you see it? Well, we thought it was going to be a short presentation. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you very much. Um, so the site is located on the south side of Vanour. It's approximately.94 acres. Um, it is currently zone M1. We wish it would be zone to MT2. Um, you see this arrow we have for the existing gem seal site, which is a larger piece. It's about 2.6 acres. This is to the west of the gem seal. So, it's a.94 acres. We want to combine those two. Um, that's your current zoning map. Um, site is currently zoned M1. As you can see, it's kind of its own little orphan there. It's kind of spot zoned to, so we want to make it to MT zoned zoning. This is the future land use map. Um, the use for this under the current uh future land use has this for multif family residential. Mhm. But if you look and you go back to the current zoning map, the purple is the um current um multif family. So there's a pretty good separation between us and the uh

multif family. So we feel it is a spotzone piece of property. It does have access to all necessary utilities. um that has access to the road which is under Wayne Countyy's jurisdiction, but we would likely use the road that we have on our site to combine them from the operations. So, with that, we're asking for your consideration for a recommendation for approval for resume. Thank you. Any questions or comments from the anybody from any commissioners? Oh, wait a minute. This is a this is a public hearing. Yes. Okay. This is public hearing. So, is there anyone that wishes to speak under the public hearing? Seeing no one, we will close that portion and open it to commissioners. If there any questions or comments, if there are no questions or comments, a motion is in order. Do you have a question? Yep, I do have a question. Um, for the uh city planner, I take it that this piece of property is it buds up against MT currently. There's no residential at all. No, residential is further down. Yep. the piece that where you see the piece highlighted in the middle there to the west and to the east see the dark gray and then once you pick up that purple further down that's where you get into the the mobile home park. Okay. And there's nobody um that uh wrote any letters or correspondence about it. And there is there is a house on the property you are going to demolish. Yeah, that will be debolished. Okay. If there's no other questions um I can make a motion. Go right ahead. Okay. I'd like to make a motion to recommend the city council approving of reszoning request for RZ2025-00002 Gem Seal PMG Sealmaster to reszone 94 acres of property located at 28055 Vanborn Road from M1 Light Industrial to MT Industrial Transportation.

Support Okay. I have a motion from Mr. Crovis, supported by Miss Jameson to recommend to city council. Why aren't you just there? I'm getting there. to recommend a city council approval of the reszoning request for RZ 2022502 gem seal PMG seal master to reszone 94 acres of property located at 28055 Van Horn Road from M1 Light Industrial to MT Industrial Transportation Any discussion Mr. Croba? Yes. Miss Jameson? Yes. Mr. Glfelty, yes. Mr. Long, yes. Miss Rasco, yes. Mr. Veter, yes. Mr. Frederick, Mr. Frederick. Oh, yes. Mr. Am I not seeing somebody? No. Chair votes yes. You can go before city council now. Thank you so much. Have a good evening. Thank you. [Applause] [Applause] [Applause] This whole first Monday stuff is throwing me way off. Item two. Next we

have item B where is RZ 20224 O2 SLU 2023 2023 and O4 and SPR 2023031 Super Y Plaza. Uh requesting a conditional resoning special land use and site plan approval for property located at 7130 Middle Belt Road. [Music] Uh, and just your Oh, yes. All set. You got the floor. All right. Good evening. My name is Michael Brock. talking with Hennessy Engineers up here tonight for a conditional reszoning, a special land use and site plan approval for for the super wide plaza located at the southwest corner of Middle Belt and Eforce. It currently consists of eight parcels that total.16 acres and these parcels have recently um been before I believe it was city council to have the the adjacent alleys vacated. Um the plan is to demolish the existing building and the site is s service with public water, sewer, gas and electric. Um, we are going to eliminate one approach from Middle Belt Road and also eliminate the I guess the current access um to to Farnum. The plan is to construct a new 9,800 ft convenience building with a convenience store, a fuel station, and two additional storefront units uh with with one having a a drive-through window. properties are currently zoned C3, C2,

and R1B. And uh one of the parcels is uh has like I guess dual dual zoning on it, C2 and C3. And the request tonight is to reszone all of the parcels to uh to a C3 zoning to accommodate the uh the proposed uses on the property. There's similar zoning at the northeast and southeast corners of Middle Belt and E course and our request is to expand the existing C3 zoning for this this development. Uh we do know that we're adjacent to some residential on the south side of of property. So, we have we put a lot of thought into into providing a 50-ft buffer with a 6 foot high masonary wall and extensive landscaping that surrounds the existing residential property and it it'll result in a in a well screened um well protected area. I know we do have several waiverss due to the due the I guess configuration of the property. This property has front edges on three sides which makes it difficult to to I guess u makes it difficult to to develop you know I don't know if you want to go through all of these waivers or if you have any questions we can get get to that after but um yeah we do we have put a lot of thought into the plans and um this is kind of what we came up And I guess with that being said, I'd like to introduce the owner and developer, Jonathan Yono um of Super White Plaza. Hello, commissioners. Thank you guys for your time. I just want to give you a brief introduction about myself and my

family that own the property. We've been there for 47 years. Um when my dad purchased that property, it was Duffy's Market. Um I also own Wild Billy's Bar and Grill down the street. Um I think it's safe to say we have a vested interest in the city. I also sit on the Tiffer board as well for the city of Ramulus as well as uh attending just various events um and just support for the city itself. Um knowing the residents in the city um kind of knowing what their needs and their wants are from hearing from them on a daily basis at um both Wild Willies and and the current store. Um, you know, it seems like, you know, vast majority, um, if not everybody is is pretty much in favor of it and pretty excited about, um, you know, new business development on that corner, um, to kind of fit some of their needs, um, as well as hopefully some other, um, options into the, uh, the rental units there with maybe possibly some other food services. And even in the store as well, too. With expanding the store, we're able to provide more of a a a grocery um aspect as well as far as just being more of a a beverage store is what it is currently kind of is right now. Um so we're kind of excited about that as well too and and uh you know looking forward to any questions you guys have as well. Okay. And you are um you're going to have a restaurant in there, correct? Correct. So, well, we're we're hoping to have a restaurant. We don't have any tenants um signed to any leases currently. Um but that's definitely part of our plan um is to is to to attract some some restaurants there, which is why we're including the drive-thru, right? Um there as well, too. So, hopefully we're we're planning on doing that or getting some tenants in there for them. Okay. Because I saw in the plans you had um Starbucks. Yeah. which really wouldn't fit there, I don't think, because the traffic is unbelievable. Yeah, we just put that up there just for like really just aesthetics, just for the look, just to show some signage up

there. If you if you notice now that the plans are kind of updated, we removed that signage and just put the store props up there. But we'd be happy with the Dairy Queen. We'll contact them. Grill and shell. You know, we need food, too. You mentioned that right away. You wanted that. Yeah, because there's basically no Dairy Queen anywhere around here. So, it's like there's not It's like Yeah. So anyhow, so all righty. Well, before we go into the commissioners, this is a public hearing. Um, so I'm going go ahead and open that portion. Let the record show we have on file an affidavit of first class mail. If there's anyone here who wishes to speak on this matter, please raise your hand when you're acknowledged. Come to the podium and give us your comments. Not all at once. All righty. Seeing no one, we will close that portion. We will move along and I will this time open it up to the commissioners. Did you Did either of you have anything you wanted to cover? There were a couple clarifications that it would be if um Mike could possibly make um in regards to the the plans and I'm not even sure if Mike is the right individual. Um, if you can speak to the site lighting, Mike, was that going to change or or were you guys going to relook at the site lighting to see if it was It's pretty dim right now. Is that something that you were going to look at to see if um you're well within the uh parameters of the ordinance, it's just compared to other gas station uh facilities we've seen recently, the lighting was a little bit on the lower side. So, it's something we can take a look at. We definitely didn't want to flood the the neighboring properties with with, you know, the intense light levels, but um if you feel it's a little bit low, we could absolutely take a look at it. And then in regards to the lighting too, there was no notation on the plan set uh

as to the height of the poles. Um can you speak to what you were proposing because the 14 foot height limitation would be required based on your your proximity to residential. Yeah, actually I'm not sure what the height was. I think we're looking it up right now. Okay, no problem. Those were the two things that we we just wanted some clarification in the minutes. Okay, we can I I believe we we need to submit a a final set of of plans for, you know, stamping purposes and stuff. We can look into that and and make sure that that gets on our plan itself, but it's it's No, it's limited to 14 ft, I believe. Correct. Correct. Yes. because just because of the proximity to the the residential. So if there is a request for a higher poll, that would be a variance. Correct. Correct. Yes. Just to note that that would require going in front of the ZBA. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Gladeli. To the chair, I had a couple questions. I see the applicant's name. It says Jonathan Yono. Seven Js is crossed out. Is that correct? Yeah. The the misunderstanding with that was that um initially they were filled out with the with the business. The business itself is 7JS. I own the property. So that's why we had made the adjustment on that. What is the address and it's not 7130. It's 6221. 6221 is the my mailing address that I have for so I have everything coming to Wild Lily Bar and Grill. That's where I I I primarily operate out of there. So I wanted the mailing address to be as uh to come to me because I spend most of my time there. Okay. I have a few more questions for you. I I read somewhere in these prints. You guys plan on some doing some kind of service there? Are we talking automotive service? No. No, we have nothing in that align with that at all. I read something in here somewhere about service. It got my attention. No, we're not putting any type of service bays in there whatsoever to do any automotive work at all. It's just uh maybe maybe it was if it was referenced in there, maybe

there was just uh in reference to the actual fueling station itself, but we're not doing any type of water repairs or anything. I think it's a carryover from another plan. There were a few kind of goofy notes in there that we put on the list of items to be cleaned up on a site plan that Okay. Yep. That needs to be on there. So, Jerry just showed me where I read it at in the cover cover letter. You found it? Yes. And one last thing, this is for the developer over there. I I found the existing sanitary sewer there in the alleyway. Does that go all the way to the north or is it you guys going to tie into it and bring it around the building? the sanitary sewer, it's it's kind of in in a T-shape right now because it was in the alleys. The alleys have since been vacated in a easement prescribed over the sanitary sewer. Part of the proposal is to eliminate just a small portion of sanitary sewer that's not being utilized right now and then relocate the rest of it. So the sanitary sewer would actually just be it' be re rerouted. So it' still say stay in service and then a new easement would be placed over it. Were they would they tie into the sanitary sword or it's in the alley right now or no? Uh well technically curry currently is it is not in an alley because the alleys have been vacated. So it is in an ement right now. I walked at Saturday and I walked all the way out to Ecourse Road and I couldn't find another cover unless it's buried under earth. Well, that's possibility. I know we did we did field locate um the the manholes. I think I actually now you mentioned I think there was one that we couldn't we couldn't locate and I was going to get with Christy at the DPW to help us locate them. Okay. Thank you. Thanks. You Yep. Um, you've got a new draft of the conditional resoning agreement in front of you that came in today, right? And I just wanted to point out there are

a few minor changes here. I went over them with the city attorney late later later this afternoon or earlier this afternoon and um all of these are very simple and um can certainly be handled administratively. So, but just wanted to point out that's what's in front of you. So that what you're seeing are the changes made by the applicant and again like similar to the site plan which needs to be cleaned up. You know there's just some housekeeping stuff but we're we're very comfortable that we can handle that administratively before it goes on to city council. Is there a pharmacy in here? It's not proposed but it's an allowed use. Oh, because in in the uh the additional requirements, it says an outdoor speaker for the restaurant and or pharmacy, right? If there's a drive-thru, if you're approving a special land use for a drive-thru and um one of the things that the agreement does require that there there is a restaurant in there and that can have a drive-thru or it could be a pharmacy with a drive-thru and then a restaurant that doesn't need a drive-thru. They've got some flexibility. They've got a lot of limitations on the uses but some flexibility within within them. Okay, that's all kind of kind of explained in the agreement. Mr. Pre. Yes. Uh through the chair uh reading an OM report on architecture item five. The proposed masonary wall is called to be six foot tall while the trash enclosures would be eight feet tall. It's recommended that the two walls be made the same height, but it doesn't say which. Six or eight. We didn't have a recommendation. I would assume that they would go down to the six foot tall wall for the entirety of the property, including the trash enclosure. Including

the dumpster. Yeah. Which is acceptable in um via the ordinance. you know, I just wanted to bring that to attention cuz again, like I said, it wasn't pointed out and that's kind of funny. Yeah. Right. Thank you. Is this going to be 24 hours? No. No. Cuz I saw in one place it said 24 hours. Another place I showed closing at 11:00 and reopening at 4 in the morning. Yeah, that that was placed in there. I mean, currently currently we open we open until midnight. Um I just didn't want like based on we will have liquor in the station as well too just like we currently have right now with the use um liquor laws from the state of Michigan. We can open from 7:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m. Um but we we have no intent of being open 24 hours. So right now you're saying you're only going to be open till midnight or you may be open till 2 a.m. I mean I guess business would kind of dictate that if if the demand was there to be open a little bit later. Um that's definitely a possibility. Um, but currently the way we operate right now, currently we opening till midnight. Um, how we'll be operating at that point, I'm not really sure. Um, I know with the morning traffic as far as like gas flow and you know, people coming in for gas and, you know, having a coffee station, possibly even inside the the the sea store itself. Um, you know, it may call for us to open at 6:00 a.m. You know, you know, we're really not really quite sure. Um, as far as hours of operation, we do know that we don't want to be open 24 hours. That that part we know. So, at this point, you really don't have your hours set in stone, correct? Yeah, for that for for the for the new building. No, we don't have them set in place just yet. Okay. But that'll be handled administratively, correct? We can we can work on that with the just there's some inconsistency. The special land use application I think talks says 24 hours here and then it was addressed. We changed it. I think we can

handle administratively. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I saw 24 hours in one spot and I show open till 11 or close at 11:00, open at 4:00. So Okay. So it's good good that there's it's on the record that we're going to look at it administratively and that therefore we don't nobody's held to what's in any of all this paperwork here. Um and you're having diesel? We do not have diesel. None at all. We do not have diesel. Not even a diesel for like pickup trucks or anything for pick for we may have one pump for uh pickup trucks for the pickup diesel but not high flow diesel now. Yeah, I know that we just meant diesel in general. Not not big trucks. We're we're most likely we'll have one pump for like for pickups like that, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, because you'd never get a truck in there, could we? Yes. Okay. I thought you were referring to like the high flow diesel. No, no, no. I just meant like you know for regular customers that have diesel vehicles. Miss Jameson. Yeah. Just to clarify. So no service repair because it's mentioned at least three times in these. No service repair. We we can we can explicitly state that if you guys would like to. I have no problem doing that. Yeah. I'd like to see it in writing just to make sure. Yeah. We have no doing that at all. So we I have no problem putting that in the agreement. I see that you're offering to put a deceleration lane off of middle bell. Yes. I'd like to see an acceleration lane on the way out because even pulling out onto Middle Belt, it gets nasty because you got people turning from ecourse onto Middle Belt and then you got someone who's going to want to come in, but then you're going to want to have someone who's coming out. Um, having that extra piece of that third lane at least for a little bit, it's going to do a lot cuz that corner is nasty. I have I guess we'll have to look to see how that's going to work with the retention with the retention basin that's there. If that's going to that's going to take away from that. I don't know how that would work. Yeah, this is

um Wayne County has has looked at this and the I guess the the layout that you see in front of you is per Wayne County's recommendation is is what it is. And we do have somebody that could talk on traffic if you'd like. Yeah, those were all we'll get to that point in Okay, those are all recommendations on, right? Recommendation versus requirement because I'd still like to know if it's a possibility because even though you have someone who can speak on traffic there, I live here and I do that. I I avoid that area like a plague certain times a day and it does get messy. And then we have sheets coming in down the street and then we have the fire station there. There's a lot going on in that little area. the sheets hasn't opened up yet, but when they do, we're going to see the increased traffic. So, um that is a concern with people pulling out over there because it's already a problem with people that go east on ecourse right at that middle bell and so they go into the right lane and so that they can speed really fast when the light turns green to force themselves in front of another car. It's it's not a good corner. So, um, having anything extra that can help alleviate some of that strain that's going to be added by that facility to the corner is going to be best for the everybody driving, not just the residents, but everybody going through that corridor, especially since it's one of the main drags get to get on the other side of 94 over there. So recommendations that's great but if it's required that it can't be there but if it could be there it would be a great benefit to everyone. So we could have that approved administratively if that's what we end up with whatever in terms of the the right term the um acceleration. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, we can look into it. Right. Um, you're s you're recommending you

putting a light in front of the fire station, but you have to have Wayne County approval in order to do that would be conditional on that was one of the changes that we made in the agreement as well, too. That obviously that condition would be conditional on Wayne County approving it. And you've had no nothing from them indicating they would or wouldn't. Not not you just basically haven't. Yeah. Ask. Okay. We're we're more than happy to do it. Uh we just need their approval. Right. I had another question too that's going to answer uh through the chair. I have two. Go ahead. Go ahead. So um sidewalk payment in l of sidewalk. I'm thinking that on fondum it actually might be a good idea for a sidewalk is it's a residential area. So if you're going to have a convenience store, whatever happening there, those people in that neighborhood could actually walk safely to get to it. Um since you are going to be buffering up against their neighborhood now, if that's a possibility, walk on eourse and um nope on Fernum because it did say in there that it was required, but you are requesting um pay in lie of Right. But I can't remember what the But aren't you putting a wall up the whole length of Yes. Yes. Yes, we are. They're putting a wall. But my question is if they could put a sidewalk for the residents who actually live in that neighborhood because they're going to be walking to the restaurant, whatever you put over there, convenience store, a mini grocery store, then the locals are going to want to go there. And those people that live there would be nice if they can walk not on the grass and not in the street but on a sidewalk cuz we lack sidewalks here in our city. I think there was a reason why we why we asked for the waiver but fire server might answer. Yeah, I saw that there was a waiver for that also. There was um a waiver to um to not put up a

burm. Uh there was a waiver to decrease the amount of uh trees as well and amount of shrubs as well. I have question on that cuz if you have a big wall going into a neighborhood street is not very attractive for those neighbors. The neighbors who live there now may be okay with it but real estate wise when they go to sell that property the people coming in to buy it is not going to value that property as much because now we got this big brick wall down the street from my home that doesn't even have access for me to get to the store. So, I'm I'm just thinking about property values and what's going to be convenient because you're taking away that whole section that is residential and now you're putting some stuff there. It needs to be a benefit to those residents as well that's in that area. Yeah. The reason for the reduction in landscaping along Farnum um is that the um that's where the sanitary sewer is being rerouted in between the wall and the and the property line, the rightway line. And typically we don't like to plant trees and things like that over over utilities. Is it possible that that wall will be totally shielded is is what I'm trying to get to. Oh, we do have there there is some landscaping along along Farnum. You were putting there's some shrubs. You were I think I read you were going to put some landscaping on the wall on the farm side of the wall. Yes, that's correct. Yeah, in between the road and the wall there, right? There is some landscaping. So, there'll be some, but it probably will still be up to see the wall. Is Mike, did you do a cross-section detail? I think I think Doug uh from Carly Wartman. No, I don't think we did. You didn't have that? Okay. That's my point I'm getting to. It's just that the residents right now there's nothing there. Right. So, it's it's a different view line. And then when you hit a big put a big wall, it changes that view for those residents and it affects their values. Um is what I'm getting to. And they're, like I said, they may be okay with it now, but

in the future when they go to sell, is the property going to be as valuable? I don't know. Um, because people feel differently. The other question was, it's backing up to the one home on farm, the very first one, it backing up to the side of that. So, my question is, how much of that is going to be shielded from that resident? Because right now, that resident enjoys their view, but then when that resident has your company, it comes right up to their property line. How much of that is going to be shielded? So now they're not looking at a big wall and and not enjoying their backyard space anymore. Yeah, we do have in in between the wall and the property line there's 50 ft and we do have a lot of landscaping planted there. So, you know, it would definitely buffer and soften up uh that 50 foot strip so you're not looking directly at a wall. We've also tried to reach out to that um to that homeowner as well too to see if there was a different type of wall or any type of aesthetic fencing that he would prefer. Um when we we got no response back from them. Yeah, I was hoping that some of the residents from that area would be here because it would be nice um so that we're not making decisions based upon their living style. Most of them are our customers as well too and and those are part of the people that we were talking about that were pretty in favor of the project as well too. Um and and we've shown them the plans that they They're customers of ours and we get to know them pretty well. Um so we've we've shown them some of the plans as well too and and they they seem pretty excited about it. Um that that particular resident um he he's been nonresponsive as to our request to try to accommodate him as best as we can but we definitely did reach out and try numerous times. Isn't he on the south side? Yes. Well, thank you. That was just that was just questions that I had. So appreciate it. I'm sorry. Do you have some questions? I was going to respond if that's okay through the chair. Go right ahead. I um in regards to the landscaping that is

being proposed, the landscaping on the south side between the resident and the um property wall. Um as Mike stated, there's 50 ft there. There is going to be a considerable amount of landscaping. It will be very diverse and that does meet our requirements along that south side. the landscaping that was being proposed along Farnum. We did ask that shrubs be used um along the section of rerouted sanitary sewer. So, we didn't get roots into the sewer. Um the shrub that they're using will be a mature height of 6 to 10 foot and the tree line will be continued to the north because the the sanitary sewer is only um about halfway up the property. So, there is landscaping there. they were more asking for a um a waiver from the diversification of that landscaping so that we could maintain the the sanitary sewer um adequately. As far as a sidewalk, because of the landscaping, the sewer, and the drainage that's on that side of Farnum, um the east side of Farnum, I'm not sure that a sidewalk would work well there, but a sidewalk could be installed on the west side of Farnum um without impacting the proposed um the proposed uh improvements that are would be along the the wall there. So if that's an opportunity um we could make we could also recommend instead of a payment in lie of to install a portion of sidewalk along the west side of Farnum. The east side of Farnum does not have enough room to maintain the drainage and the um the utilities that are within that area and then also to plant the landscaping. So you would talk about putting the landscaping on the other side. the landscaping would stay where it is, but if a sidewalk, if you did not want to grant the request for a waiver in lie of um sidewalk could be installed on the

west side of Barnum and that would be accessible to most of the residents in that area. Yeah. Through the chair just Yeah. Because my main concern is um in this city we have a problem with the lack of sidewalks. Um, so people walking kids and riding bikes. I'm one of them. I've had to ride in the street. It's dangerous. So I don't walk here. I go actually go someplace else when I want to walk, which I shouldn't have to do that. So anytime we can get that for residents, it makes sense because right now most people that are moving into communities, they want it walkable. And our walking score in Romulus is not the greatest. So people that are looking for a community feel where things are walkable and have like a campus feel, they're not going to come here if they look at our walk score and our walk score is too if at best. Um so but it is it is better for the community but better for the city and definitely safer. So that's pretty much my main concern. Thank you. Go ahead, Mr. Through the chair. Um I I'm just a little concerned that um you're surrounded with a lot of residential property and you're looking to convert out of the eight parcels I believe what uh six or is it five that is residential let's see 1 2 3 4 5 six um and you to your east is residential, south residential. Um, I would have felt a lot better if you came with maybe letters of support from those living in the neighborhood

saying, "We're really in support." I mean, I I do take your word for it. Um, but I'm just concerned. Can Can you help with my concern? So I think certainly uh most of the land all the land actually down Middle Road is vacant. Uh there's no homes there. Um in fact the homes have been torn down um even on the property that we don't own. Um same thing behind us even on Farm Street. Um it's kind of sporadic where where some of the homes are. Um some of the support that we did get was from our our vacation um uh signature form um that we did get the the signatures from those residents as well too. Um we we did not get any letters of support as far as the exact project itself, but we did go to those residents uh to get signatures for the alley being vacated so we can move forward with the project. Um and that's when a lot of the other questions were being asked by the by the the few people that do live down Farnum Road there. Um, and we, you know, we were showing them the plans at that point. Um, but I do know like set down Middle Belt Road there, there's no homes down on that on that area. And some of the conversations that we've had with, uh, with the city itself is that kind of it doesn't really that corner itself doesn't really kind of fit what the current master plan necessarily is, that they don't see that that corner ever being developed into more residential. Um, which is why we kind of garnered a little bit of support even from the city itself to to redevelop the corner into into station. Okay. Um and and just to go along with that, sorry, a good portion of that of that larger part residential parcel is going to be detention based. So even if somebody were to build a house on middle belt in the future, that would serve as a as a huge buffer to any any type of residential use to the south. Okay. Um Carol, would you agree with the future master plan that um those will be converted from residential to something else? It's it's one of the things that

the planning consultant noted in his letter. We've been working with Carla Wartman on uh the update of our master plan. As many of you know, Ecourse Road Corridor um is under its own separate study by another consultant um through our economic development department. And um while we don't have that report in front of us, we do understand that Michael Baker International is recommending this area for non-residential. It's just too busy of an intersection and just really not the best for residential. So, um, in a perfect world, yep, we'd like that master plan matching up, but I think once you all get into this in in the upcoming months, you'll likely be in concurrence with it with that report. Okay. So, and then the signatures that you said you got, these are from owners of parcels um as part of the application, if I understand what you're saying. or when we when we apply to vacate the alley. Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay. All right. Um so the other question that I have is um semi question uh from this report that says uh super wide market special land um use narrative. Are you familiar with that? Okay. So uh the second question here was explain how the use has been designed, constructed, operated and maintained to meet the stated intent of the zoning district and how the use shall be in harmony with the general use and intent of the zoning ordinance. Um for the sake of time, I'll just go to paragraph two. I I can't wait for you to get there. [Applause]

I don't have we don't have it in front of us. Oh, you don't have it in front of you? This one here. Can you share? Yeah, that's what I meant. It doesn't seem Okay, I I'll just go ahead and read paragraph two here as part of your response, I believe, to that question. He said, "Likewise, the intent of the C3 General Business District states that the use in the C3 district are more automotive oriented and serve a market that includes city residents, residents from surrounding communities and pass by traffic. This site will serve the convenience needs of the residents in the Abootin and nearby neighborhoods. They will not have to travel a great distance for grocery items and even potentially fast casual food since they will be offered on site. Additionally, pass by traffic will help ensure the continued viability of the market and the other two uses in the center. quote. Now, my question here or recommendation here is I know you have ideas for that site uh retail and stuff like that, but something that stated here is grocery items. So, can you make sure that we have grocery items as as stated as part of your response to that question? Yeah, it's it's pretty standard in the in the convenience store industry. If you even if you came into Super Wide Market currently, um there's there is we do still have some grocery items that are there. Um being able to expand the store, we're able to provide a lot more. Um and and we know that

there's a lack of, you know, there's no supermarket in the city of Ramulus. We're aware of that. Um we know that there's probably not one coming soon because there's just not enough rooftops, unfortunately, uh to be able to support that business. And that gives us the opportunity to provide some of that. Um, do I think that it'll be as extensive as putting in a meat section or something like that? Probably not. But to have some some general daily household items that people will will be able to come in and get, absolutely. Uh, some dairy items, grocery items, um, you know, outside of just, you know, chips and candy and stuff like that. It's definitely part of our plan. um because we do know that there's a need there and we do know that the other businesses that have opened up and other stations even that have opened up have not really capitalized on that and and it's it's part of the concern that we have with even with our residents and our customers that come in. I mean the residents that live in the area that are our customers that are always complaining about that too is that we have to go you know to Michigan Avenue to go to Kroger or go into Taylor or something like that. Well, we we'll be able to provide uh a little bit more than than your typical sea store that you see at a station. Um, currently we have it designed as taking about 5,500 square feet of store space. Um, and we've we've talked my my brother's here as well too who operates the store. Um, and we've talked even about possibly even taking one of the other units and making the store itself possibly 7500 ft² which would definitely be able to um accommodate still possibly a restaurant inside the store along with additional uh retail items like grocery items that you that you're referring to. Are you committing to grocery items being in the store? Yes. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, we we have the extra space to accommodate the grocery items because we do know that it's a need in the area. Okay. If I can add on that, um, this narrative actually was included in this conditional resoning agreement and it got very wordy and our city attorney thought it might be best to pull that all out. And the first paragraph um actually it's the second paragraph in

that conditional resoning agreement the second whereas if you look specifically just as he's saying they are committing to at least a 5,000 square foot convenience store market and that's where your your grocery items are going to get picked up. And we can even add that word back in here. They're they're committing to some retail. They're committing to a minimum size uh 2250 square ft of a restaurant. So So some of that did um Steve kind of summarized all this put this into here and we can we can just add that word grocery in if you're more comfortable. Would that be okay with you guys? Absolutely. Okay. Yeah. because that that would make me feel a whole lot comfortable saying that um you live in the city, you know the needs of the city and you are willing to contribute to solving a problem in the city. Um so add adding that word in on grocery items would um would work. Thank you. Great. Are you all set? Yes, ma'am. Yeah. through the chair. Um, it's come up several times. I wanted to ask the city planner a question. It's come up about um, auto repair. If we were to add into our conditional uh, reszoning request and specifically exclude auto repair, we could add that in there, couldn't we? We have um, we we played a lot with these the words with the the wording on the uses. Um we started actually doing that doing a whole list of prohibited uses and it was much of the ordinance. So basically what um the city attorney wanted to do was allow these uses back again to this paragraph which is very specific and the words getting into other uses need to be

approved by you. So, say they did want to do a use, you know, any of those vehicle uses, um, they would have to come back to you and city council ultimately for that. Right now, this agreement limits the development. The only things that can go on this property is this convenience store grocery market, the retail or pharmacy uses, the restaurant with the drive-thru, and the gas and fuel pumps. So, none of these other uses are allowed, right? And it is stated on the sheet of the site plan under the notes. Yeah, I don't know if it's part of this presentation or not, but if you look at all of these notes, it says specifically these uses are prohibited, right? Um, there's a whole and that's on the site plan. So, it's in the agreement with restrictions on uses and it's also not noted on the site plan, right? Okay. And that that is an possible motion. It it uh talks about the conditional reszoning agreement which but you already said that that those are uh basically put it back to the special land use and then it also says that a special land use approved by city council. So it have to come through the planning commission and city council if they all of a sudden decide. Right. Okay. So so we're okay. We're not today if we approve something. We are not approving auto repair. No. No. Right. It's not in there. No, there there's no intention of any kind of auto repair. Yeah, we can put that I don't think you'd have room for it, would it? Okay. There's no there's no garage doors on the building or anything. There's Yeah, definitely no auto repair. [Music] Um actually I have the floor. Um it had already come up about diesel and um

everybody was here when we uh did not allow truck refueling across the street. So there will be no truck refueling where but you did mention about uh pickup trucks which um that's a common practice. Yes. But one of the things I would be concerned about is um where that pickup truck pump is located. I wouldn't want it on an end where a semi-truck can pull in and out real easy. Don't it's not the same fuel. Okay. I don't think there's enough room for a semi truck to pull in, is it? Yeah. Yeah, it's it's completely it's different type of fuel. Uh so they they they would they have no reason to pull in to try to fuel anyway because they wouldn't be able to. Okay. So the high the high flow diesel is completely different than what would go into like a F350 for example. All right. Thank you. Now I there's so many different pages in this thing. Yeah. I saw in there a page that had all the waivers listed. that is going to be found on if you go to the summary the very first well the very first thing is the the public hearing notice. If you go to the second page or the second sheet that's the planning commission summary report and it's broken into the conditional resoning and conditional resoning agreement the special land use and the site plan and the waiverss um which pertain to the special land use are all listed there. Is that page 11? It's um Okay. Well, it's page three of that letter. It's page 11. Are you looking at it on your I just want to make sure that we all agree upon the waiver waiverss. Okay. Yes. The big one is that sidewalk which is going to be um I do have a comment on the sidewalk. That's if I put if I think of of I as a resident across the street on farming, it could be a good thing. But then some people don't like the

sidewalks because the maintenance. So, what I would kind of think is if uh I think there's six lots that would be affected there. There's the commercial lot right on the corner and there's five residential lots. If the five residential people were in favor for the sidewalk, I'm all for it. But if you get people in there that don't want a sidewalk on their property who's never had a sidewalk and had to maintain up the sidewalk, then I would be for the in lie of the cash payment on the side. Um I don't know. It's just kind of a compromise. I don't know how you guys feel about that. Yeah, if I if I may. That's one of the reasons why we did the payment in lie of, you know, just just because we're not sure if if the sidewalk is really warranted down there. And and those are all very good very good points that you you brought up. You know, they might not want to maintain the sidewalk and and things like that. And in fact, I don't know if if that whole stretch is occupied, you know, we be installing sidewalk on private property on somebody's property that may not be maintained, you know, whatsoever. How far down do you take the sidewalk? Well, you know, likely need to take it to the end of the property. Right. End of the property. So then from there on there's probably sidewalk and I only counted the lots to what would have been directly adjacent from the property that you own, right? That's where I stopped counting. Right. And I I don't I don't own that that property across from us. I mean the money for paying it either in lie or installing the sidewalks. It it doesn't really make much of a difference for us as far as development goes, but I don't know if that property owner would say okay. I I'm not sure who even owns the property. No, I I understand the concerns. I full totally do. Um and and for us it's not that we don't want to do it. It's the waiver's there for other reasons. Is there a sidewalk on Ecourse Road? No. So we put a sidewalk on Farnum and but it would just be on Farnum and if they went down ecourse they still would be on there. There is a sidewalk proposed with this development for

Ecourse and Middle Belt. So they will be installing three sides of their frontage sidewalk. So the the payment in lie of is only for one of their frontages. Mhm. The farm page. Okay. Do we want to run through these waiverss real quick to make sure we're all on the same? Have you reviewed all the waivers or well you you've requested it? Yes. So allow the detention pond in the front yard setback on middle belt. allow driveway wider than 30 feet since 40t exists on middle belt to allow driveway spacing from farm street of 70 feet from Tim Horton's driveway of 106 ft and then and from the equest middle belt intersection of 230 ft to allow a 6' high screen to allow six foot high screen wall in in the front yard along Farnum and to exceed height limits 3 to four feet allowed. I can I can explain that. That one's pretty tricky. Jerry from BCA might understand that better. Fences are not allowed in the front yard unless they're only three feet for a little decorative fence or four feet for a rod iron. They also so basically you've got two we have three requirements here with number one the fence actually in that setback right in front of the building and it's not a fence it's a wall in this case and then also the height. So, it's kind of combining and because of the wording in the ordinance, this is one of our many areas where the planning commission has the ability to wave it as opposed to a variance. Okay. So, and then we're waving the green belt burm height from 36 to 30 in along middle bout knee course to wave the burm requirement along. And then we're waving the burm requirement along Barnum completely. Mhm.

Allow 76 shrubs rather than 97 in middle belt green belt until I easy for me to say to allow three canopy trees rather than six required two evergreen rather than three required and two ornamental rather than three required for green belt trees along Farnum Street and we talked about that because of the sewer the system. Yep. Correct. Okay. So chair, there were two others that are listed in Carol's report. Right. Right. That are the dumpster. Yes. The dumpster height, the dumpster location and the orientation and then the the in le of sidewalk that's on that summer report. Second page. Yeah. Four of the they were allowing waivers to the dumpster location. Mhm. And orientation requirements gates facing a public road. So technically the location is in the front yard because it's on Farnum. This is a as as was mentioned a very challenging site with the three front yards. So it's a front yard location and then the orientation because as you're driving in the gates will be faced right right at you. Right. So we're going to ask them to keep keep the gates closed. Right. So yeah, they need a waiver on that. And even though it says Barnum is a front yard, technically it really isn't. Technically the front yard's on middle bell, but it's still a front yard because it's a so that's why they need the waiver. Right. Right. Okay. Clear as mud. And does that pretty much line up with everything you guys Yes. Okay. Okay. And what was the other one you said that they had to do? Um to allow the uh dumpster to have a 6ft wall versus 8ft wall so it blends in. Mhm. So the sixt wall is all that is actually allowed. The eight wall would have required a

waiver. So they Yeah. So they're doing what we So they don't need a waiver. Yeah. As long as they go to six foot the whole way. Okay. Okay. Okay. And [Music] then there's too many front yards. Yes. Yes, there are. There's too many front yards. Yeah. Anyhow, cuz that's basically basically I mean there's so many waiverss involved because we have three front yards. Correct. And as far as the building, the building looks the picture that you had there. Is that the building that we're going to see? Yeah. Did you bring any um uh did you bring wasn't your said something about bringing material for us to look at? There are there are materials listed on the one of the elevation sheet here that shows the oh right there block and that's what it's going to be. Yeah, that's part that was included within the site package too. Okay. sore through the chair if I may. Go right ahead. In regards to this particular page, um the one thing that could be clarified the next time around is the colors that are on the the um renderings differ a little bit from the colors that are called out in the um material callouts. And just to make sure that we don't have any um misunderstanding then next time around just make sure the colors match. Okay. Cuz you have a red brick and uh some tan but there's no but there's gray brick that's shown on the the renderings.

No pink or purple brick. Oh man. Why not? No. No pink or purple. your your renderings are going to be very important at city council based on some past experience with uh colors and materials that were shown and then um so we'll we'll uh that would be different. We'll make sure that as part of your you know revised submitt before going to council that that's all squared away. Good catch Jessica. So yeah so at this point in time do we need to address the um traffic study? You're traffic study right? No your traffic study. Oh. Oh, that's Audrey. She's from OM. I know that. I realized we wanted her to sit up here, but Yeah, you were supposed to be sitting up here. She helped considerably with these reviews. So, yeah, you're supposed to be up here. Yes, you're Oh, you're traffic. Jacob. Jacob. So, tell us about traffic. Do you want me to just give a quick overview please? Um okay so um we uh evaluated the signal at eourse and middle belt as well as all the driveways. Um when we did this study I believe the sheets on the other corner was still in. So we included that as background traffic. So, right, the current projections are going to be more conservative. I believe they had driveways aligned opposite of this. So, that now all goes away. Um, as we said, as as has been brought up, there's several um it's not specified what is um going to go in, but we evaluated as a coffee shop and just general retail, which are the more intense land uses. So, if they come in with something less intense, this should cover all that, as well as the gas station. Um we identified the need for the right

turn deceleration lane on middle belt that um was already discussed earlier. Um additionally we identified that the signal ecourse in middle belt has some um could be reoptimized to to better facilitate the existing traffic volumes. Yeah. Um Oh yeah. And so we provided some recommendations for that. Um uh but other than that um we as I said the right turn lane and um the signal revisions were the only recommendations of our study and basically the signals have to be approved by the county. Correct. Yeah. Wayne County main Wayne County. Yes. Yeah. And eourse right now is being evaluated. So that'll come along with that. So yeah, I'm not sure what's being done, but if they're doing they'll likely optimize the whole corridor, right? So from what you're saying is you really don't see a problem with traffic other than what's already there. Yeah. Essentially, we identified some existing issues, but um Right. With with our recommendations, we we believe we could address those. Um and then with this site, we don't we don't project any um any significant concerns. Madam Chair, I I have comment about that corner and and the traffic and I agree. Um it it needs to be fixed whether we're building anything else on that corner or not. There's a lot of issues. There's a lot a lot of traffic there. I don't believe what um is getting built and uh there is going to bring more traffic. There's so much traffic there now. um they're going to utilize that corner because there there is literally nothing there. Especially he's talking about bringing in um you

know a smaller market and and so on and so forth. There is just nothing um if you go to Van Bourne or or Mirman or wherever um that is anything like that. And as far as Sheets goes, I don't I don't believe it's going to um impact the traffic because Sheets is down here and he's up here because most of that um traffic Sheets is going to get is going to be right off of 94 and back on the 94 and back into the airport and all down to that end. I believe the traffic and the customer base that you're going to get here at the corner of Middle and Ecourse is all the people that are going home that way, coming coming that way, um going through that intersection anyways. Um that's my opinion just from uh living and working right there and uh and and I see the traffic, you know, every single day there. Um, so as as far as the traffic, I don't believe it's going to bring any more traffic than what is already there. Um, in fact, I think it's going to really help because people are going to be able to utilize that corner in a whole lot better way. Right. Yeah. To add on your point, sis, these these lane uses that are proposing are typically pass by traffic is traffic that already on the road. And so you're essentially serving the existing traffic that's already there. they'll just detour to visit your site. And and based on what they've said of of their local local influence and knowledge, I would expect it to be even higher amount of local residents than than a standard gas station, right? But I I agree with you on that. People instead of having to go down further, they're right there and they say, "Well, we'll just go in here." You

know, and so definitely right. We're not we're not increasing traffic. in a way might be helping it a little bit. Just have to get off the road for a couple minutes. Well, the I I believe the lanes will help a lot. Oh, yeah. They will. Just just in general. Yes. Oh, I thought you said yes. No questions or comments. Have we covered everything? I mean, this is so much here. Who is responsible for the timing on middle belt? Is that the county, too? Yeah, that's all that's all county just like if they want to put a light in on at by the fire station that's county and if I if I may during the review process with the county the county will definitely look at the at the timing you know of of that light and right make any adjustments required. Yeah hopefully they will see the need for the fire station light. Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. Right. What all because this this is so diverse. What else do we need to cover before we make a motion? The the motions are laid out for you. Were there anything? She went through the waiver so everybody's good with the waivers, understands them. um the the recommendations, we've got the agreement that we talked about and that we can tidy that up administratively. Um everything with the site plan. I mean, there's there's several again, they're little things that are easy to but basically with the site plan, we're going to recommend that those things be handled administratively. Exactly. So So you've got three three different things. You've got the conditional resoning and the conditional resoning agreement that goes with it. That's a recommendation to city council. You've got two special land

uses which is a recommendation to city council. Then the site plan which is just a recommendation to approve it subject to administrative review of that. Back to the condition resoning. We do need to see a revised um agreement addressing the some of the things that were talked about tonight. Right. Yeah, because that one has most of them are but it's five and then second and that second one's broken down into six different. So basically we have a conditional resoning special land use site plan site plan got three boxes and the one that's what I'm saying those are the three right the one box on page three which is probably your page five under special land use is actually split all of those it's one through five but that includes all the waivers. So your first motion, Yep. Your first motion is the talks about the conditional reasoning and the agreement and it talks about, you know, there's a detail on what your the verbiage is long because it's dealing with all those parcels, getting them listed. This is what it's for. You're resoning from these from C2 to and R1B to C3. these particular parcels subject to a revised conditional resoning agreement being administratively approved. Um special land use approval by the council and a revised site plan. Then the special land use then the site plan. I have a question. Go ahead. In the motion um it should be made with all the numbers of every single lot the the lots that are you don't necess you can refer back. Okay. refer to the summary report and then plus the three conditions for the uh conditional reasoning the three conditions in the sum in the summary

report right okay um I've heard a couple messages about a a a coffee shop possibly is that over and above a restaurant or is that in lie of a restaurant no either or um if if we take the one of the additional units if we expand the store itself self. Um the plan to to make it to occupy one of the rental units. Um the plan would be to have a restaurant inside the store. Okay. Um which would then kind of what whatever else ends up going into the drive-thru area. Um I feel like there is maybe a need for for coffee there. I I don't know. Again, we haven't marketed the the property yet for any tenants. Um so I'm not really sure. It's it's definitely a possibility. So it's one or the other. Yeah. Okay. Is there anything in here that any of the commissioners need more more information on? Not at all. It's plenty of information. Don't plenty of information. Everybody's okay. Mr. Long. Okay. Would you please look at the clock? See how big this thing is? And it's just a little after 8. And we've been here for lesser stuff till 10:00. You guys did good. Yeah. Okay, I guess we are ready, right? Yep. Madam Chair, I'd like to make a motion. Um, the first one is a conditional reszoning. I'd like to recommend make a motion to recommend a city council approval of the conditional resoning request for RZ2024-00002 Super Y Plaza for the following. Um it's uh it's basically lots six through 12 from C2 to general business C3 highway

service and then also lots 58 through 62 and lots 13 through 30 from R1B single family residentials C3 highway service. The specifics of the lots are listed in the uh summary report and then also to include the three conditions that are in the summary report. support. Did I do that? No, you did that. Did I support? Okay. So, do we need to put this in there, too? Subject to revised conditional resoning agreement. Well, I did mention the three conditions in the summary report. That covers everything. Yep. All righty. You support it. You support. You support it. Okay. There we go. Okay. Motion by Mr. Croba, supported by Mr. Bad to recommend a city council approval of the conditional reszoning request for RZ 20242 Super Wide Plaza for the following portion of the Okay. And you read all the partials already. Subject to the partial and subject to the revised conditional resoning agreement. Any discussion? Mr. Cro. Yes, Mr. Bane. Yes, Mr. Frederick. Yes, Mr. Jameson. Yes, Miss Rasco. Yes, Mr. Long. Yes, Mr. Gladfeld. Yes, Chair Bones. Yes, we are recommending to city council. Thank you. Good luck. Oh, there's more. That's one. There's more. That's one down. Madam chair, I'd like to make a motion. Okay. to recommend a city council approval of the special land use request for

SLU2024-00003 vehicle fueling station and SLU2024-00004 drive-thru restaurant for Super Y Plaza substitute the five comments in the planning summary report but we uh will alter the one about the sidewalk for Farn right now. He it says to um um are we waving that? Are we asking for the I'm sorry. Say it again. Well, what I was going to do was alter it that if the people on Farn would like the sidewalk on their side, then we use the money towards that through the chair. I was just going to say looking for where the parcels are that that they own across the street. I don't believe there's actually any homes right across the street at all. It's all vacant land. Yeah. And that wouldn't be maintain maintained then. So actually, right. So basically, no. So we get we're going to grant them the uh waiver for the um Okay. Yeah. Payment in le of when there's development on that side of the road, a sidewalk, this issue will come up again. It'll be a requirement depending on what kind of development it is. So if so, yeah, if somebody were to build houses on those parcels, they would have they would put a sidewalk, right? But right now it's not right. It's not cost effective. Okay. Do you feel comfortable with that? Okay. All right. Then um the motion is for the two special land uses and uh subject to the five comments in the planning summary report. Support Mr. Mr. Frederick. I have a motion from Mr. Prova supported by Mr. Eric to recommend city council approval of the special land use request for SLU 20243 vehicle fuming station and SLU 2024004 drive-thru restaurant for Super

Wide Plaza subject to the five items that are listed on page three and 4 of the planning report dated March March 31st. Any discussion? Uh, yes. Is this where we needed to pick up the orientation of the dumpster in the location? Yes, it is in number E that says to allow waiverss to the dumpster location in the front yard and orientation requirements, gates facing a public road. So, it's So, it's right there. One, but two it's two two waiverss in one. Yeah. For the dumpster. Two two. Then I would like to amend my motion to include the the portion you just talked about. No, it's on there. Okay. It's within the five. It's right here. It's in the five. Yeah. Yep. It's item E. Okay. All right. Thank you. Do you right there? All righty. No discussion. Mr. Croat. Yes. Mr. Frederick. Yes. Made. Yes. Mr. Gladfelty? Yes. Miss Jameson? Yes, Miss Rasco. Yes, Mr. Long. Yes, Chairbo. Yes, we are recommending to city council conditional resoning. Okay, one more. I'm sorry, that's special enders. Okay, Madam Chair, I'd like to make a motion. Go right ahead. I'd like to make a motion that the planning commission approve the site plan for SPR2023-031 super wide plaza subject to the four conditions listed in the planning summary report. Now do we have to put something in there to affect that that you will make any additional administration will make any additional administrative Y subject

finding recommendation. That's number three. Number three. Yep. The revised site plan for administrator review. Yep. All righty. Do we have a motion? We have a motion. Is it on? I have a motion for Mr. Kroga supported by Mr. Long. Okay. Based on the findings of ARC committee, we recommend the planning comm. We, the planning commission, approved the site plan for SPR 2023031 Super Y Plaza subject to the following four items listed on page four of the report dated March 31st, 2025. Any discussion? Mr. Cro, yes. Mr. Long, yes. Mr. Frederick, yes. Mr. Jameson, yes. Yes. Miss Rosco, yes. Mr. Bad. Yes. Mr. Gladeli. Yes. Chair Bochess. This plan has approved. My god. I have Thank you. It's a It's a very nice project. Yes. Great pres. It's going to make that corner. Yes. Going to anchor the corner nicely. Thank you very much. Really clean it up. Kudos to all that were involved in making this so basically easy. I guess I guess like I said, we've had them come before us. Well, you know, with you know, half of this stuff and we're here till 10:00. Yeah. Thank you

very easier. Promise. What's the next one? It's a straight toning. I don't know. This one's pretty easy. This was, you know, all in all this. This one looked kind of intimidating, but it was really easy. I appreciate it. Thank you. Good luck with your project. Who's that gentleman back there with the blue with the black shirt on? He did my truck. I think he's like my dad's not very aggressive unless he has a project coming up. Okay. Well, hey, I don't know how to be here. [Applause] Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Item seven is old business. We have no old business. Item eight, PC cases involving advice or input from the planning commission. Need some advice from the planning commission. I always need advice, but nothing that pops in my head at the moment except get that fence that that's right. Clean that out. That that'll be on the reports of interest designation. We've missed you, Mrs. Mrs. Miss Rasco. Yes, we have. Welcome back, Miss Rasco. Thank you. I appreciate it very much. I do have a few things. Um, so first of all, what everyone gets excited for is, uh, next Monday, the 14th of April, uh, yard waste will start picking back up. Um, everybody can start getting their yards cleaned up and, you know, plus we've had a few little windy storms. Um, so I'm sure people have enough to, uh, put out the street. And then um and then there's

our free dumping days at the city of Romulus for residents only. April 24th, 25th, and 26th. Uh that's Thursday, Friday, 8:30 to 3, and on Saturday 8:30 to 2, you have to show uh proof of residency. Um and uh it's at the DVW, 12600 Wayne Road. Um also uh dispose of large quantity of items up to three bulky items only no commercial waste at all nonhazardous material only and again proof of residency has to be shown and um the good Friday walk is Friday April 18th and uh it it starts at uh 9:00 for coffee and donuts at the Five Point Church there at uh Five Points um here in River Drive and and Grant there. And um uh then the walk starts at the historical park and they'll walk all the way down to the Five Points Church there. And then what else do we have? Oh, an important um event coming up is the mayor's state of the city address and that is next Wednesday. Uh well actually next week, Wednesday, April 16th at 5:00 pm at the high school uh 9650 Wayne Road. Doors open at 4 for late refreshments, but they do ask you to um pre-register by the 10th of April. You can call 734-9427571 or you can go to state of the city at rmuluscout.com and register there. Just need an idea of how many people are

going to be coming. It is open to the public and there's no cost um for this event. So very important. Come on out and see what's going on and what's coming up. And the last thing we have is clean sweep in April again. So, uh, April is our cleanup month, that's for sure. Um, and that's Saturday the 26th. Um, we'll uh meet at the Raml's Athletic Center at 9:00 to get started, figure out where we're going to go clean up at and then we always end up at uh Blue Sky um afterwards uh to uh see what all we've done. But other than that, I I don't have anything and appreciate your greetings back. Um just glad glad to be back. We missed your input. Um, so this is our meeting for April. This is your meeting for April. So we do not have a meeting on the third Monday. Nope. And so we won't have meeting again until May. Correct. Maybe. You might. I I'm hoping. You've got some ordinance things and uh there there could be a site plan or two that's ready to come if we get it. But um you sat here. Do you have something you want to add to us? I I'll tell you after go off the air something funny. Yeah, madam chair. Yes. Couple of couple of announcements. Yes. Go ahead. April 12th ecoair. Um that I believe is at the rack. That's at the rack. Yes. Yes. The eco eco is the eco fair is at the rack. I think it's from 9 to 2. I think it is from 9 to 2 I believe. Usually runs about that. Yeah. Yep. Just wanted to make sure we let people know and also um pumpkin festival is already gearing up.

So we have decided that the hometown hero award will continue to be part of the pumpkin fest now and so we want to make sure that people are turning in nominations and we're hoping that we get people nominating children. So, we're looking for elementary, prek, junior high, high school, senior citizens, veterans, business owners, and just your average every day. So, hopefully we have six categories. We're hoping to be able to reward at least six people this year. So, um so spread the news. Um start now so we can get those in. They'll be due the end of June. Um, also with the pumpkin fest still three days, we'll be having fun zone again this year. Um, we're also looking for volunteers. Uh, cuz last year half of the volunteers bailed out the last minute were sick. So, we probably need more than we anticipate this time so we don't run into that problem. So, do you know when the next planning commission planning commission? No, I don't want to talk about that. Pumpkin festival meeting is. Yes. I believe it is the first Wednesday of uh or Tuesday. No, first Tuesday of each month. So, we just had one last week. So, next month will be the next meeting. If you're Yeah. Um if your name is not on the list because I know you were before. I'll make sure they add. Yeah. Well, I Right. Because I couldn't make those because I was sick. They didn't want me to come in coughing on everybody. Yeah. I appreciate that. I I have just uh two questions here. So sheets in Romulus is sheets one and sheets too. Are they in any other location in Michigan yet? Yeah, they're building actually open. I don't know. I don't know if they have an open open, but they're definitely building. There might be one on the other side of town that I think there is one opened

already, but I know they're Leavonia. I know they're Mcome. Um they're going to have what 12 or 14 allgether Michigan. Their hope was 30 when they first came. Oh, okay. But I don't think they're I don't know where they're gonna end up at. So that dubtales nicely into I watched the Red Wings the other night and there were sheets on the ice. They have their logo on the other. Yeah. So I found that like they were number one and two. And second, the you store or self storage on North Line. I noticed they dug up on the south side of the road. Do they are they moving forward with that on the tab in the main? Yeah, I believe the um the access that would be on the south or the west side is for the water main extension. So, they're going to directional drill underneath the road twice um to bring water into the site. I seen cones up and down here in the drive and I figured that had something to do with that. When I looked over there, I seen the pile of dirt. Yeah. Yeah. I think they had a mishap at the the first go round with they ordered the wrong materials, but now I think they have everything in everything in place now. All right. I remember you said that before that there was a a hiccup in the giddy up. Good. That's all I got. Uh, Madam Chair, question for Carol. Go right ahead. Um, Wayne Lexus states, "Are they still actually around?" How ironic that you asked. I spent the morning with that. Talked to Jessica, talked to our planning consultant. We're going to be meeting on Friday. Uh, there's you you could that could be your main meeting to see the reasonzoning. There's a sliver of property um that needs to be reszoned to to multiple families. So, we can easily get going on that. In terms of the site plan, it's it's got some things that need to be addressed. There's some bigger issues with it. Um Jessica, the drain, the wetlands. Um have they have they been to Wayne County and talk to them at all about the drain? I think they've started their conversations with

Wayne County, but that will be an important approval to get for them in order to make their concept work. And they were having issues with uh parking and driveways and lot sizes and all that, right? That has been revised. Yep. That's been revised. Yep. Yep. So, that's good. So, yep. Hoping hoping it's it's it's in our it's in our bucket. We're It's under review right now. It's here. So, like I said, could be as early as next month. Do you see that resoning? Anyway, um possibly the site, well, site plan's got a lot of clean up. So, what about Mottown Sports? Did they actually buy that property yet or are they still just a concept? Um, as far as I know, they have not officially purchased the property. Uh, haven't heard a whole lot recently um other than the same things I think we've talked about before. We got them all the way to where we need to know where they're at on on site plans and phasing and all that stuff and I haven't seen any of that yet. Did they complete their crowdfunding? Because I know they were working on their crowdfunding. So, did they get that part done? I know they were petitioning uh the state to fund them a lot of money. So, because they didn't have a lot of money. So, just wondering if they got past that hurdle that I do not know. All right. Thank you. You want want to know about some of the projects? Are we ready to move on? Oh, yes. Oh, that's right. No, that's fine. That's an item in itself. Yeah, that's next. The project status report. Reports on interest designation. Are we done yet? Does anybody have any questions? Yeah. What about did we already talk somebody

mentioned something about Costco? So that kind of we can pick that up on the on the status report of your projects. Right. Last uh last meeting you had the request for the dock doors on the Scanel building for Costco. Yeah. Jeff worked with them and got it figured out that they don't need any approvals from you. That it's just improvement, right? They worked out that they can adjust their operations. Now, nothing's official, but they have worked out that they can adjust their operations and they would be able to work Well, this is what the developer tells me. I haven't heard this from Costco, but they said they can operate with the doors that are allowed in the building with But are they moving? So, but I but I I don't know. There's not a signed lease. I've heard nothing from Costco whatsoever. I've only spoke with the people from Scanel. But are they talking about moving all the doors down to their end? No. No. They're talking about having 20 on their end and 10 on the other using the whole building. Nope. Just that. Still using half the price. They're keeping 20 and they're going to give the other half 10. And we did discuss that and there's 15 there now. I mean, if you go back there, you know, there's some there now. So, they're allowed 30 on that back on that building side. And they're they're Now they're stating that they think that they're finished with 20 and then they're comfortable leasing the other with 10 that it'll work. Now that is only from Scanel. I have not heard that from Costco. I haven't heard they haven't submitted for a reoccupancy or any you know what I mean? That's just what I've heard. I'd like to see 15 and 15 myself, but who am I? Who am I? Good news on that building is that I like I like the way it's set up. All the doors are in the back. Everything's Oh, yeah. on that side. That was the whole And if Costco did if they did everything decide to come in with the doors they're allowed to have traffic wouldn't be an issue. Right. Right. Well, yeah. And we worked long

and hard on those dock doors. So, I know we're not going to give Yeah. too hard. We're not going to give into anybody on those. Okay. Anything else? Anybody else see here? Do you know the one um thing that came in today? First class storage which you saw last month, month before over on Beverly. They the variances that they need uh they will be seeking those in May. Yep. So they're moving right talking about uh Oakley. Mhm. Yep. Moving right along with that. Actually, Mike, how are you are you doing engineering right now? Are you getting? Yep. So, yeah. So, that one's moving along. We want to see it nice and nice and neat as this one was. We'll try that. um that project it it um I've the calls that I get for people that want to locate here and how they want to do it and a lot of people um just don't really understand everything that goes into things but that use um I was telling Cheyenne actually today when she was in um it's contractors or people with warehouses that need exactly what that business suite um product is offering um you know they they've got their storage in a storage unit you know one guy that I talked on Friday, a woman I talked to on Friday is a fencing company and their stuff's all in a storage unit, but their offices at home. They want to they want to put it together and, you know, do just with that, but the little office in those units because they don't need much space, but they like to be around, you know, when they're doing their work, they having their product and whatever it is right there, they want to be able to have that. So, yeah, we talked about that. Were we receptive to them having their office space in their storage unit? It's it's space. There's a bathroom in there. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's not like it's a glamorous office where, you know, all that stuff. It's just more to get get it get a little bit of work done and, you know, the stuff that you're dealing with right there.

So, um, you're going to be getting soon a zoning ordinance amendment that Steve Hitchcock has drafted that we've been looking at on the condominium ordinance based on a couple condominium developments that you've approved. We've got North Point, we had Opus, and um, we need to tidy that up a little bit. The gas station moratorum, which is in effect, and obviously tonight this this project was in. There are four or five others that are in the hopper that if they do get a little further along, even though the moratorum's on, uh, you'll still be seeing them. But Steve Hitchcock has got drafted some language. Uh, we've been talking, we've got issues with some other vehicle related uses in the city, primarily used car dealerships and that. So, we're going to be kind of looking at that section a little bit more comprehensively and a little a little bit more detail than just gas stations. So, and then the master plan, um, we're still we're waiting on like I was mentioning earlier on the Michael Baker study from Kevin's office to to come, um, and kind of coordinate that with Carla Wartman and hoping it might be this summer that that we actually get going on that. Did um, did we talk discuss pilot? What's happening with pilot? Pilot's they've got to revise their plan. And so, you haven't heard anything more from them? No. No. Well, that's about it. Any other questions or comments from anybody on that? Any other questions or comments for Carol or anybody? All righty. We'll just move right along then. Item 10, communications. And that was our project status report that we just looked at. Yep. Just did. Yeah. And item 11 is

adjournment. So moved. Who's supported that? Mr. Long. I have a motion from Mr. Jameson, supported by Mr. Long to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Jameson. Yes. Mr. Long. Yes. Mr. Cro. Yes. Mr. Mr. Frederick. Yes. Mr. Bob. Yes, Mr. Rasco. Yes, James. Mr. Gladfeld. Yes. Chair votes. Yes.