Plan Commission - Regular Meeting

Emma kept coming up. Remember, she kept coming up these scenarios and I wanted to say, "Will you stop?" You sound like a little kid. Well, what if what if this? What if? God, she's hilarious. Are we good to go? You have the U streaming going. Is it going? Yes, that's a yes.

I'll go ahead and call to order the March 10th meeting of the plan commission. Can we get a um roll call, please? Daryl McConnell. Chris Lamb here. Joseph Scholas here. Lucas Straw here. Mike Mccerowitch here. Jim Finchum here. John Good here. Suzanne Davis here. Susan Mag. Devin Bolan. Tammy Bailey here. Logan Zuber here. I can determine that we do have a quorum. I also want to make you aware that our assistant uh city attorney is online. Um so if we do have any questions at some point uh he should be available. Hello everybody.

Thank you for checking in. Um, you should have a copy of the corrected minutes from the February 10th meeting. Um, if you checked online, make sure you look over this new copy of it. Um, if you see any corrections that need made or any comments or suggestions, please let me know. I'll make a motion to approve them as distributed. Second. We have a motion, a second. Any further discussion? All in favor signify by saying I. I.

I. Opposed. Motion carried. Item number five, agenda modification. Is there any need to modify? Okay, we'll go on to old business. So, underneath old business, we have the Auburn commercial center that at the last meeting we tabled and continue the um public hearing. So, I need from someone to make a motion to remove from the table and continue the public hearing on development plan PC development plan 2026-1. Move to remove PC development plan 2026001 from the table and continue the public hearing. Second. Have a motion and a second. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed.

Motion carried. I do want to make it clear that the public hearing is on and I'll turn it over to staff.

Thank you, sir. Uh James Karet, city planner for Auburn. Uh so this request for development plan approval was filed by Todd Graham. Uh he's representing the property owner which is 869 development. Uh they're requesting development plan approval for a 4500 ft retail building uh to be located at 1570 Shook Drive. Uh this development plan does require public hearing. It was advertised and uh there were four adjacent property owners notified of the request. The property itself is highlighted on the map u again off of Shook Drive. Um the property itself is zoned C2 commercial as is all the surrounding zoning around the property. This is just a quick glimpse of the development plan. Again, it's a it's a 400 foot building. There would be three tenant spaces. The two tenant spaces on each end, the north and south end would have availability for drive up window. Um so you see the drive up lanes. There's also a bypass lane for vehicles not wanting to use the drive-thru but get around the building. Um, and then there is uh the parking. The access is off of the uh there's an access drive coming off of Shook. It's currently utilized by the um Sonic Restaurant and the orthodontic office. So, it's a shared access drive. And you'll see the two access points for this particular property. a few just building elevations shows you what the building uh will look like um on the front and the both sides and rear of the building. And then the last the u uh few photographs of the property. I'm sure you've all driven by it. Of course, it's cross from the Home Depot property as well. Um is this undeveloped track within the uh four-wheel subdivision. She shows a few

photographs of the layout of the property on the uh um public notices that we sent out. We have not received any direct input on this request uh for this evening. We did place the public notice yard signs for anybody driving by the property to let them know of the request. Uh the development plan did go through routing um as all plans do and uh all the final comments have been addressed. They are listed here uh for your review. And then the project advisory committee met on March the 5th to review the request as well. The uh facility is lot one in Fort Willy. It's a it's a site that's just under one acre in size. The very eastern portion of this lot is actually the access easement. So the lot the the derive uh is part of this lot but there is an easement that allows the other users to um to utilize the driveway. There is a uh a variance that was approved by the board of zoning appeals back in December and it reduced the parking setback on the north and south sides of the property. is required to be 10 foot setback for any parking area. It is met on the east and west sides but the north and south they did request it to be reduced to five feet. That was granted. Um but there was a condition placed upon that uh variance that the privacy fence be installed between the parking lot and the building the orthodontics building to the north. The um development standards for the C2 district are all met. the uh parking standards um for the for the property there are a total of 36 spaces provided. Um the standard parking requirement

would require 15 spaces that would be for standard retail use of the building. But again, it's if a tenant uh either the north or the south tenant or even the one in the middle could be a restaurant, they have a different parking ratio. So what happens on this type of building, the parking ratio is met for what they're asking for this evening. The parking ratios for restaurants can't be determined until we know the exact floor plan of that restaurant to know seats to know number of employees. Um and so the determination is made as each tenant finish um comes in. That's when we evaluate the parking ratio. If there's not enough parking, then we simply won't allow a permit to be issued for the tenant finish. And we do that for any shopping center anywhere. But I point that out here because they they more than exceed the parking ratio. But, you know, it could be an issue um down the road depending upon number of employees and and seating area for the restaurants. I mentioned the bypass lane. That's just a courtesy for anybody trying to get around anybody that's stacked in the bypass lane. But all the parking requirements are met uh for the property. The driveway standards are met for the property. the stacking lanes for the drive-thru facilities um would be provided. The landscaping um the requirement is 80% of the site be um impervious surface um and they actually have 36% of the site as imperous and again their their plan does show the six-foot privacy fence along the north property line as required. So the landscape plan is compliant with the UDO. The property is within our uh corridors and gateway district. So, we do have enhanced architectural standards and the building does comply with those standards. Uh there is pedestrian access for the building. There's a sidewalk already along Shook Drive. Um but this

development plan does show a sidewalk connection. So, anybody that's walking to the site, um there'll be a sidewalk connection to the front door of the of the building. The trash receptacle uh also has increased standards for its appearance to match the the the building itself, the architecture of the building and that's that is in compliance. There are going to be total of four light poles for the parking lot as well as um wall fixtures for the lighting. Those all uh comply with our required photoometric plan. There are site utilities. There's existing water and sewer to the uh west of the building. That's where they'll be making the connections for utilities. Um, and then storm water control. They will be collecting storm water on site into a a underground pipe system uh that will collect the water and direct it to the existing storm sewer that is on Shook Drive which then leads to detention that was built as part of the overall development of that area. There was one there's a a master drainage pond for the entire development that that allows these lots to also drain to it. The drainage board did approve that uh drainage plan back in January of this year. Overall, the development standards of the UDO for this project have all been met. Um so staff does recommend the planning commission accept accept the staff proposed findings of fact for the development plan and approve uh this development plan request. uh subject to a total of five conditions. Four conditions that would have to be met before we issue a a building permit. U two of those I'll I'll identify. There is a requirement for utility service agreement because part of the parking area drives do extend into a utility easement. And so any extension into a utility easement requires a utility and

access agreement. There's also a uh an older um easement that crosses through almost right through the middle of the property. It actually was uh in existence for the building, the orthodontic property to the north. We got that easement vacated off of that property, but the easement is still in place on this lot. It's not being utilized by anybody. It's just a it needs to be cleaned up. It needs to be terminated. Um and so that there's a requirement. We provided the termination agreement documents to the property owner. We need to have those executed, recorded before we'll issue a building permit because it cuts right through the building. Um so it's just a matter of that needs to be cleaned up. Um and then of course all the all the work needs to be done in accordance with the development plan um that's been submitted to you this evening. That's with that uh that concludes staff report.

Thank you, Jim. Any questions for staff? And I actually have one and I didn't see this the first time I looked through it. Yeah. But there seems to be a a contradictory um a contradiction between the development plan and the building elevations. Okay. Can you scroll back to page two? Development plan because the development plan once you get to back to page two it appears that Shook Drive is south of the building. So, if you go to the north, the south side is one of the sides. And on the building elevations, if you scroll down, the one that says south is actually the back of the building. Oh, yeah. So, I want to make sure we have that aligned correctly. It is aligned like the development plan and not the building elevations. Correct.

That is correct. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. The the labels for the elevations are are not correct. Okay. Yeah. Good catch. I did see that. Any other questions from commission members? Thank you. We may call you back. Um, anybody from on behalf of the petitioner like to come and speak on the project. Jake Ramsey 69. Not much to add, but I can answer any questions. Anyone? Any questions for the petitioner/developer? Um, I have a question. Yep. Um, so do you have tenants sort of lined up? You don't have to tell me what they are.

Not really. We have feelers out, but nothing. Gotcha. The only thing that kind of concerns me is on the north side where that um drive-through window is going to be on that north side. If anything goes in there that really backs it up if a backed up um drive-through lane could potentially interfere with cross traffic. Yep. Um coming in or leaving the parking spot. So, just that kind that's the only concern I have about anything. Everything else looks good. Okay. So, anything else? Okay. And Jim, didn't you mention us that for that question that once they have tenants coming in, we'll approve those?

Yes. Yes. That's when we look closely at uh again the parking ratio, stacking lanes, those things. So, we'll look at that one. Yep. Yeah. We've moved the window behind and stuff like that to Yeah, the one on the south is no problem because you have to drive around behind the building and you've got plenty of place to stack up there. So, y Well, thank you. We may call you back.

Um, is there anybody in the public that would like to speak this project and not only for this one, but for the other ones as well, please come to the microphone and state your name and address for the record. We're just talking about this project. Every other one will have its own public hearing. So, this is only for this project.

Yep. Anybody? Okay. I'll go ahead and close the public hearing. And is there any further discussion or questions amongst commission members? The north side neighbor came into the BZA like I said back in December and he said as long as there was a privacy fence on the north side he was totally okay with it. So he was happy about that.

Sounds good. Anything else? Okay. So, um would you please scroll back? Sorry, I'm going to make you scroll back to the findings of facts. We do have five findings of facts here. All in the affirmative. So, either is or will. Hopefully you've had a chance to look through those. I know those might be a little hard for people in the audience to read them, but we do need to approve the findings of facts before we vote on this. So, I'll entertain a motion at this time. I'll make a motion to approve the funding of facts with the five conditions for PC development plan 2026-001 conditions on finding effect.

There's no conditions on finding effect. All right. My bad. Approve the finding. We have a motion. Do we have a second? Second. Second. We have a motion and a couple seconds. Any further discussion? All in favor of um p or verifying the findings of facts say I opposed.

Okay. And on to going ahead and approving this. Um remember there are five conditions this time. We need to add those in when we make this motion. But I'll entertain a motion to approve PC development plan 2026-1. I'll make a motion to approve PC development plan 2026-00001 uh with the five conditions. I'll second motion and a second and a second. Any further discussion? All in favor signify by saying I. I opposed.

Motion carried. Good luck. Thank you. On to new business. We have two items underneath. uh new business. Both are reszoning. So, the first one is 703 South Main Street. So, I'll go ahead and open the public hearing on PC zoning 2026-1 and turn it over to staff.

Thank you, sir. Uh for this first request, uh Tamara Weber, who's uh representing 130 East 7th Street LLC, uh on behalf of the property owner, our Foundations LLC, requesting to amend the official zoning map for the city uh by reclassifying the zoning of the property that's at 703 South Main Street uh from TR TR, which is traditional residential to is our institutional district. The property itself is highlighted on the map. the quarter of 13th Street and South Main Street. Uh, this resoning request requires public hearing was advertised in the STAR on February 17th and there were six adjacent property owners notified of the hearing this evening. Again, the uh the property itself is currently zoned traditional residential. The property to the south and to the west also zoned traditional residential property across 13th street to the north and across the main street to the east uh is zoned uh institutional for a reasonzoning request. One of the considerations that need to be made is the uh the comprehensive plan which for Auburn is referred to as the Auburn 2040 plan. And I note that the uh future land use plan, which is a a map basically of the entire city, that future land use plan does designate this property as appropriate uh for what's called urban edge use. And the land uses that would typically be in the urban edge areas would be single family residential uh would be offices, services, studio arts, live work units, etc. Uh the urban edge is really defined in the 2040 plan. It's a transitional area from residential to commercial. And the urban edge area in the plan goes all the way from the downtown area down to uh Wayne Street to

connect to the commercial area that's down at Wayne Street. The urban engine areas, urban edge areas really is to maintain the residential uh architecture and style uh but permit a diversity of uses uh that would be appropriate scale for the existing building. Uh staff feels that the proposed reclassification of zoning is consistent with the future land use plan of the Auburn 2040 plan. In the staff report, I've included a few photographs um of the property itself. This is from 13th Street looking south along Main Street. And then from Main Street looking west at the building. Then one other photograph is looking from 13th Street looking southeast at the property. It shows the house and there is a twocar uh garage in the rear of the property. The uh for this resoning request project advisory committee did uh meet on March 5th just to review this application. Uh staff did receive two phone calls um from interested individuals uh on the request. Uh did not file any kind of objection uh with staff. They just had questions about the request and we did place the public notice sign on the property back on February 17th. Uh so the property itself uh utilized as a single family resident. Um the applicant uh has an offer to purchase the property with the intent of locating a law office uh within the building. Um the overall property itself sizewise is a fair fair size lot is 75 foot wide by 140 foot deep. The home was constructed back in 1890 and is 3100 square foot in area. That garage that that is in the rear of the property is a little over 500 square foot in size. So the uh institutional zoning district, the is district, it is established for a

mixture of civic establishments that range from small local facilities to what could be considered a regional campus. The school decal high school property as a campus and it's owned institutional just as an example. There's a adjacent properties that contain the uh Stinganger Center for the Community Foundation, the Auburn Presbyterian Church uh are both zoned institutional and other nearby properties that have the institutional zoning include the genealogy center, the uh teen library and the Echart public library facility all zoned institutional. I have identified uh in the staff report what uses are permitted in the is district and this is always important. I always point this out. We know you know the applic coming applicants coming forward what their intent is is for a law office which fits the categories. But I always stress to the planning commission to look at the entire listing of permitted uses because that's what could go there. We don't know what's going to happen but once you change the zoning those are the uses that can be there. Um, as I mentioned, a law office is a permitted use within the is district and it is consistent with the 2040 plan. I've also identified the development standards should there be any kind of improvements that would be done u to the property itself that improvements would have to follow the development standards of the ordinance. I note that uh any use of the property for an institutional use including a law law office will require off- streetet parking. It's hard to say what that parking ratio would be until we know the exact use going in. So if the law office in fact wants to uh locate in the property, we make the determination uh before we allow occupancy of that uh what the parking ratio would be. So

there may be a need to do I mean they have the driveway you know they have uh the garage spaces which all count for the off- streetet parking um there may need need to be u additional parking provided on the lot uh there's one other um I mentioned the adjacent institutional uses there was also the variance of use for a for a physician's office that was approved it's an adjacent property to the south that was back in 2004 just for reference purposes a Good example of a similar facility of what's being requested here is the Smith Law Group office uh which is at 507 Jackson Street. It was a residential home uh converted to a law office. And I note uh the applicant has submitted uh supplemental documents that should be included for you to look at. Um quite a few documents that they've submitted both to the planning commission and I believe also to some of the neighbors. Uh so with that um the staff recommendation the uh request requested reclassification of zoning it does extend the existing institutional zoning designation of property which is both to the north and to the east. So it is a continuation of of the institutional uh zoning district that's there. We feel it's a a reasonable request to extend that district and it's consistent with the 2040 plan. Um, and so staff does recommend the planning commission forward this request uh for reclassifying the zoning of 703 South Main Street to the common council with a favorable recommendation. There's not specific findings of fact, but there are five considerations for the planning commission to make um in making your determination and recommendation includes staff report.

Thank you, Jim. Any questions for staff? No, not at this time. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Would anybody on behalf of the petitioner like to come forward and speak? Please state your name and address.

Thanks. Uh Eric Weber. um 130 East 7th Street, Auburn, Indiana. Uh I'm an attorney here in Auburn. I am uh um the lease holder. My law firm is the lease holder at 130 East 7th Street. And uh Tamara J. Weber is my wife. She's here. Raise your hand back there. Okay.

And uh she is the owner of of 130 East 7th Street LLC. She is the petitioner. Um, I've got a few material. I know we gave you a lot of materials. I've got a few uh color pictures and then a copy of this PowerPoint that I'll pass out. You guys can just so you have it. You can't see this very well. So, there's the PowerPoint. Then I do have a few more photographs. I think I got enough for everybody just so you can see them a little better. Sometimes on the screen there it may be harder to see. So you can look at that as I go through the presentation here. Um again f the first picture obviously is the the front of the uh of the uh the building uh the McIntyre house. The next one then uh again this is the team here team here. Will Will's not here. He's uh he is actually he's a college student. Goes to Grenell College. He's on spring break. He's uh back at the office shredding documents in case uh in case this thing gets approved. We may have to. We never know if the FBI shows up or not. But then we got Evie, who's here actually. She's a my daughter. She's a sophomore. Then Maggie right there next to her who's a sixth grader. And then there's Kate. She's a third grader. So that's them. I always I just want to put them up there. Want them to know I still like them. All right, let's talk about 703 South Main Street. The McIntyre. Uh this this uh property was part of the original plat of Auburn. So, uh when Auburn was platted, this was one of the properties that was platted. William H. McIntyre um what I would call the originator of uh

the Auburn Auto Heritage uh was the owner and uh William McIntyre uh was uh an individual was employed by the Kiblinger Company that made carriages in Auburn and were housed in the uh the former well the current Star building downtown that was at one time a carriage uh uh manufacturing uh entity and then he bought cut out Kiblinger and uh created the first motorized carriage. You know, the big wheels, those things. You've probably seen pictures of those. So, that's that's McIntyre. And obviously, he's a he's a big part of the heritage of uh of of Auburn and automobiles. Uh the house, uh I describe it as a a Victorian with a turret. Uh very beautiful turret. Um um the house has had significant period appropriate updates to it and it is back basically back to its original era. Everything from the kitchen sinks to the light fixtures to the uh hardwood floors um are basically all back to original. the the door knobs. Uh the the c the former owners did a did a wonderful job with this and uh you know as a result of a of a tragedy in their family. This property is up for sale. Uh so uh something that uh looked like a very good opportunity. It's got over 3,000 square feet plus it has a walk up attic, a basement, and there are multiple rear parking areas that I'm confident will be sufficient to uh accommodate the uh the office. We have four to five employees. There's a twocar garage and at least space for three cars in the back. And it certainly could be reconfigured for more. Plus, I would note that uh much like anybody who is a a merchant downtown, uh there is uh a lot of parking that is uh on the street on 13th

Street adjacent to the Presbyterian Church. So, we go to the next slide. Um, this is the uh current law office, 130 East 7th Street. Uh, again, what's the what's the potential? Now, this is not necessarily part of what you're going to consider here today, but it is part of the broader picture, and I think it's important to know that. something that I've spent the last and Tamar and I have spent the last month trying to make sure people who who are in the downtown area uh and and so forth understand uh this property is under contract um and there is as we understand it a significant development potentially a multi-million dollar development that may come into Seventh Street. Um, I know I I've seen the plans maybe uh four or five years ago even. Uh, again, don't know the plans specifically, don't know the timeline. Uh, but I know enough to know that there is uh the potential for that to happen. Um, this resoning and the sale of this property at 130 East 7 Street's contingent upon the zoning. If the zoning doesn't happen then, you know, as a business decision, we would not sell um the Mefford and Weber building, we would just continue to occupy it. Uh uh because unless we had another opportunity somewhere to go that was properly zoned and didn't have to go through the same steps. But uh um there's not a lot of opportunities like that out there right now. There's there's really not much out there that's open. Um, as a matter of fact, I couldn't find anything downtown per se as I looked around until this particular property came up. Next slide. Uh, the power is is obviously up to this

board. Uh, Uklid, I did this for Jim, get taken back to his planning days. uh William Howard Taft, former president and chief justice uh established it was established in that decision 1926 that um government entities like the Auburn Plan Commission, Auburn City Council have uh valid exercise over powers and duties to determine things like zoning because it's it deals with the health, safety, and the welfare of the community. So again, we understand that that's why we're here. That's why we we understand that this has to be taken uh uh with considerable uh discretion and uh again we're giving this every every uh best effort that we can to demonstrate the evidence of why we think this would be appropriate. Uh next slide. There are no findings of fact as you all are well aware in a resoning petition but there are uh five guidelines that you would review in accordance with Indiana code 3674603. One is to look at the comprehensive plan. We think as uh city planner Jim Katarat uh articulated and and we think from the the materials we provided uh we've demonstrated that that a proposed institutional zoning is consistent with the comprehensive plan especially when you consider I think we have the map in there. It's a little bit easier for you to see the color map of what that future land use or future zoning looks like or what the zoning looks like including that urban edge which the urban edge not only includes Main Street but includes West 7th Street from the railroad tracks where Blackburn and Romy is uh uh down through uh where uh Edward Jones uh the accounting office on the other side of the street comes all the way down until you get into the downtown. Those two areas are identified as the urban edge. Meaning as as was stated, these are

transitional areas where you can blend in and keep the consistent character of residential working with those areas that are adjacent to downtown or commercial areas. Next slide. Again, the current conditions and character of the structures and use in the d in the district. We we're going to we're going to demonstrate or we think we are we have demonstrated that the character of the structure located 703 would be enhanced uh and not modified but preserved and beautified and we think it fits with the adjacent institutional uh uh uh entities such as the the Presbyterian church. We think it it will fit it fits well with the uh the foundation with the library with the teen library even with the uh Mac uh Macintosh school. It's a corridor in in our mind a corridor of different types of institutional nonprofit educational that runs all the way down 13th Street, 14th Street and up and down Main Street. And again, it is that urban edge adjacent to downtown. So we think we meet that particular part of the statute. Uh next slide. Um the most desirable use for which the land in each district is adapted. And again we believe that the most desirable use in this case is it for to be used and utilized in a manner that will continue to preserve its historical significance. Something that we articulated to the owners. Uh it's something that uh uh one of uh one of the brokers who is here tonight, Michelle Snyder, uh has articulated to the owner. We've expressed and and and articulated our plan, the same one that we sent out in the letter to adjacent property owners, the same one that you've received about our intentions is to preserve this, to keep it looking the same on the outside and the inside, and

to only enhance it, improve the sidewalks, uh repair the the garage to make it uh aerospace, uh to to uh uh you know, improve improve the windows, improve the facade look, uh but keep it completely aerospecific with no structural changes and that would also include the inside of the building also. Uh, next slide. Uh, the conservation of property values. And again, I think you will hear testimony from uh broker Michelle Snyder and also broker Dan Gabard, who's a commercial broker with uh Zacher uh uh Property Management, which is one of the largest property management, commercial property management uh companies in the state of Indiana who will tell you, I believe that it's their professional opinion that uh reszoning this to institutional and having a doctor's office, a dentist's office, a law office, a teen library, a counselor, a psychiatrist, an accountant in there is not going to have an adverse impact on adjacent property owners. They have the experience. They've been through that. They can tell you that what affects property values is the manner in which the property is maintained, the manner in which the property is enhanced and uh the the uh the upgrades and the functionality of the property. So again, uh this is an institutional zoning. This is not a commercial zoning. It's not going to be grocery store. It's not going to be a pharmacy. It's not going to be a movie theater. It's it's very limited. It's limited to the things that you're already familiar with and that you see uh with regard to things like what's across the street at the community foundation. Although the community foundation is a much larger building uh and and probably has 10 times the amount of activity as this would.

Go to the next slide. And again, the last factor as part of our evidence is responsible development and growth. Again, there's been a lot done to this to this property already. We want to do more. We want to carry it forward. Uh my wife would probably like to live there. Uh that's probably how much we we think of this property. Um we've owned lots of properties. We've owned three properties downtown Auburn. I think um if you know us, the the evidence is that we maintain those. We keep them in good working order. They look good. Uh we don't let them fall in into dilapidation. We've owned parking lots in downtown Auburn, been part of redevelopment of parking parking lots in downtown Auburn that uh that we think have enhanced and uh and uh added to uh to the opportunities downtown and we think the same thing will happen here. And again, uh there's a legacy here and it needs to be maintained. This was a property that probably was in jeopardy at one time of maybe being condemned. It's hard to tell. Uh it was in pretty bad shape and and probably all of you here or most of you here may be aware of that uh of that condition. So again, uh do we think this is responsible development and growth? Yes, we think that when you're you're talking about doing the types of things that we're proposing and we're talking about four employees to five employees. Uh Don Stucky, longtime attorney in uh in Decal County in Auburn, uh is of council in my office. He has a staff member. I have two staff members. So, it's a very limited I mean it it would be smaller than if my family lived there. the amount of people there, the amount of trips coming to and from the building each day would be less than my family uh would would who are involved in sports and things of that nature uh

coming and going each day. Uh my family has four vehicles. Um there will be four to five vehicles maybe uh that would be that would be at this uh property each day. So not out of the ordinary of what you would see in a residential neighborhood. Okay. So again, we think all of those things would fit well. And again, a property like that can only accommodate so many vehicles or so many people. It's a 3,000 square foot building. It's not it's not like what you have across the street. It's not a it's not an 8,500 square foot building or it's not like the Presbyterian church. You can only accommodate so much. Okay? So, so it's not something that, you know, you're going to go in and all of a sudden the neighbors are going to be uh uh inundated with people coming in and out and it's loud and obnoxious, things of that nature. You're not going to see that just because of the size uh and the structure of the building. And again, as a professional office, we're not there past 4:30 typically. And uh we don't have people there on weekends. We're not there at night. We're not there on Sundays. So again, the neighbors uh are going to have hopefully the advantage of having a nice property with with not too many people around. Uh whether that's good or bad, I don't know. But again, uh it's not a high intensity type use, nor could it be with the size of the property. Let's go to the next slide. Again, supporting evidence. I won't go through this. We provided you the information uh provided it in our petition. We we referenced this in our letters to the adjoining land owners. I had the opportunity to talk to several people and and and pointed some of these things out and again uh some of these things will be be mentioned by the uh by the consultants that I brought with me today and then we'll go to the last or the next slide. uh in support of this uh we we did have our consultants I did not

speak specifically with the mayor but uh Dan Gabbard and and Miss Snyder met with uh with the mayor explained the the project uh he indicated he was he was uh uh thought it was favorable he supported it uh he doesn't have a vote I know that he doesn't have a vote on the city council but he is the executive of the city and he indicated that he thought it was an appropriate use and I think he was excited about hearing that there's an opportunity for a multi-million dollar development across from the courthouse on the 7th Street corridor that may accompany this. Uh Auburn EDC, we've met with the uh the director of the Auburn EDC. Uh he was very favorable to it. He's also baseball coach. They have practice tonight. He couldn't be here. I told him that was okay. Just told him I wanted to meet with him. We've met with a lot of other people uh various entities and groups. Uh we haven't met with everybody because we just can't get to everybody, but we've probably met with a dozen to two dozen uh groups of different people and entities. Uh Kendra Wiler Brinkerhoff, Dan Brinkerhoff's wife, uh lived there and uh she called me said she thought this was exciting and and was and was supportive of it. She's in Florida. She told me she would have been here to speak on behalf of it, but she's in Florida. They're retired. Um but she grew up there. Uh and then Mrs. Paige, who is uh one of the principles of our foundations LLC, uh was was also as indicated to Miss Snyder uh the broker involved that she's supportive and and uh and feels encouraged by what we have planned. So again, uh those are the things that we've had uh in support of this uh the people we've talked to and again the big picture uh what is the impact on downtown of a potential multi-million dollar development? Uh you all already know the answer to that because you've seen what the straw

complex, the uh Auburn City Steakhouse complex, the uh coffee shop and lofts above that, uh the Cedant Financial Building, what kind of impact that has to downtown Auburn. And right now there is a significant part of Seventh Street that is empty. And I can only presume it's empty because they're waiting for the opportunity to have uh gained enough commercial property to do what they want to do. And it's my belief that this is part of that. Again, I'm not part of their entity. I'm not privy to their conversations or what they're doing, but I do know enough to know that that is part of it. So, uh, with that, I leave you with that question of what would a multi-million dollar development downtown do to enhance a downtown that is seen a a lot of great growth. Uh, so again, uh, with that, I have a couple other people I'm I'm going to have briefly testify because I want them to I want to get that evidence in to help support. So, uh, I'm going to first call, uh, Anthony Krauss, who's attorney working for us, uh, local attorney, and he has a few brief comments to make, and then Dan Gabbard will speak, who's our commercial real estate consultant, and then Michelle Snyder, who's our residential commercial real estate consultant. Thank you. And then I I we'll take any questions at the end that you may have.

Thank you, Mr. Weber. Turn it over to Mr. Krauss. Please state your name and Anthony Krauss. Address. and my address is uh 1344 South Grand Staff. That is right across from the BMV. Uh I have practiced law in uh Indiana and northeast Indiana for 35 years. Uh a good portion of it or most of it has been in uh Decal County. Originally started in the building that's now Carve and uh obviously it was something else before then but uh it uh has turned into Carve. Uh most recently I was renting from um uh uh Dan uh dentist Schmidt

Schmidt. Thank you. Uh and had for a number of years. Um Dan's uh daughter bought the practice and so she wanted to expand into the area where I was uh back in October. Uh Dan got a hold of me and said uh here's what's going on. I said sure no problem. I'll find some place. Uh, I contacted the Chamber of Commerce. I contacted the, uh, Department for Economic Development. Um, they pointed me in the direction of the folks that own the property on the north side of courthouse to give them a call. They have lots of office space available. I called them. They were not interested in renting any of that property. They then pointed me to the KPC building and I contacted them. I toured the building. uh spoke with someone, one of their representatives um and after about three different attempts to rent from them, they were not interested in renting. I have talked with other lawyers. I've talked with other business people who would love to be downtown Auburn, but there isn't anything available. I even talked to Van who owns Beanies about the little curio shop next door uh wasn't going to be big enough. there's just nothing downtown uh that uh was available uh in the 60 to 90 days that I had available. I looked at other places just off um I think and I've been in uh Eric's uh office a number of times. Uh it is probably the nicest office in Auburn. uh it's been maintained uh to great expense uh to him and I think if he's allowed to move uh to the main street address uh he would continue to maintain a law office uh to the level that he's uh done uh downtown. I'm hoping that if these this uh resoning is granted that that would free up enough

property on the north side so that myself other people that want to rent downtown or own the building. I know some of us have looked at uh buying uh a building just not available in downtown Auburn. I'm hoping that if this resoning uh request is granted that that will free up some space for new businesses to come to downtown Auburn. Uh that's my belief and uh I would welcome any questions as to my experience here just recently from October of last year until now. Ultimately it led to me being out uh where Jim McKenna used to be uh across from the BMV. Uh but I would have rather have been downtown if the commercial space had been available. So that's all I have. Thank you.

Thank you, Gabbard. Next one. State your name and address, please.

Hello. Thank you all for your time. My name is Dan Gabard, 444 East Main Street, Fort Wayne, Indiana. Um, I am a commercial real estate broker working for the Zacher Company. Uh, this is my third time now working with uh Mr. Weber and his team. The first two deals that we did together were uh assisting other people. it was him taking care of their estate. Um, and I always respected the way that he handled that. Now we are working on a property that uh that he has ownership in. Um, and so it's kind of fun being able to help him after we've collectively helped other people. Uh, I just wanted to speak I'll try not to uh state again what's already been mentioned. Um, but just from a commercial real estate broker's perspective. So, you know, first and foremost, um, you know, being a current residential property, uh, we're all sitting here right now. There are commercial users looking at that property. So, I am just one commercial real estate broker with one client. Uh, I am not the only one, and it is obviously on the uh, radar of other commercial users. uh the elements of reasonzoning. What we looked at with this property were the compatible uses nearby. Um the path of growth, a lot of the items that have already been mentioned, continuation for institutional uh from the north and the east properties, we're in line with institutional development going all around it. Um it is compatible uh with the other businesses around there and it's also a growing trend. So we we obviously work in the Auburn uh Garrett and Dicap County area. We also work throughout northeast Indiana. Um you know Mishawaka, Peru, Kendallville, you name it. You know, I'm driving there. I'm going through their downtown and I'm working on projects in those areas. Um it is a trend that we're seeing some of these residential properties on the downtown outskirts um being used as offices and a lot of times law offices. There's uh a couple not forprofits that

I could speak on in Fort Wayne that are in the same uh concept. There's uh attorneys in Fort Wayne. There is another attorney in town uh and then a doctor in town. Um you know, very popular trend going on in commercial real estate across the board. Um with that said, you know, the question of the value around it, uh I think the biggest component, no matter if it's a residential or a commercial property, is is has it been taken care of? um are the current stewards maintaining it or is the property itself just downgrading and therefore the value goes down with it. Um so taking care of the property you know we we all you know are in Auburn we can see the current facility that Eric and his team are in. Um, I can speak on the, you know, again, the experience with other deals and just taking care of people, uh, and and properties that he did not own, let alone ones that he has, um, you know, uh, a sh a share of or uses himself. Um, as far as the highest and best use, I I believe as a commercial real estate broker, my expert opinion would be that it is continuing with the institutional. Um, if you're uh a resident looking to buy a new house, are you going to look in areas where there is other residential or are you going to look in areas where there's commercial all around you? Um, this property has commercial all around it. Um, you know, I would venture to say that you're going to get just as much commercial uses overall as you you have people looking for housing. Um, you know, let alone this type of use. Uh, like Eric said, um, you know, office, people coming in and out, there's not a ton of traffic. Um, so in my opinion, it would not have a negative impact on the house values around it. Uh, it would actually increase the property values of the overall corridor. Um, again, it's been mentioned, but it's a allows a current long-standing business that has been downtown that wants to stay in Auburn that has made it clear that they want to stay in Auburn. Uh, this allows them a a place to stay in business um, and kind of make room for future

development for the downtown of this city that we all would love to see. Um again it was mentioned some of the support with the uh EDC Colin Bice had quite a few conversations with him. We met with Mayor Clark. Um you know can confirm we received favorable um feedback from him. Um you know logistics are one thing but the human behind it is another. And I think that's important. I think um you know who Eric is as a person and a businessman um you know actions speak louder than words. the the fact that he's gone and talked with all of his neighbors that he's trying to look for any hurdles, any ways to make their life easier. Um, you know, even accommodating the current owner, the seller's wish that the property maintains its, you know, its current form as much as it can. Um, so, you know, being aware of that and being willing to work with that, I think is important. Um, again, it goes in line with the uh adjacent properties. uh has limited parking needs and traffic overall from a commercial use perspective and as it's been mentioned it is right in line with the 2040 plan. So thank you for your time.

Thank you Snider.

Good evening and thank you for the opportunity to speak. I wrote my words because real litters can be a little wordy so this will keep it short and sweet. Uh, my name is Michelle Snyder. I'm with Northeastern Group Reality, 269 Duesenberg Drive, Auburn. I've been a licensed realator in this community for the past 22 years. I'm here today to express my support for the proposed resoning of the property that I currently have listed for sale at 703 South Main Street, Auburn. When I listed this property, it was expressed to me by the seller, Dana Paige, with our foundations LLC to find her just the right buyer. The right buyer meaning someone that would care about this property and its historic value and unique characteristics. Someone that would take care of it and would want to keep the integrity of the home as much as she and her late husband had wanted to when they bought it. The buyers uh have made it very clear that this is exactly their intention. They have complete appreciation and respect for the amazing craftsmanship of this turn of the century Victorian home. The goal is to continue to improve and enhance as well as preserve and protect it. That commitment from Tamara and Eric was exactly what my seller was looking for and that is what gave her the peace of mind and the comfort um knowing what was going to be done to it and um that is what made her um want to accept their offer to purchase. From my professional experience, I personally believe the resoning will only be a positive income or income positive outcome for the surrounding properties and the overall value of the neighborhood. After in working in real estate for more than two decades, situations like this don't often come along where the vision,

the property, the buyer, and the seller all align so perfectly. So, to put it simply, this just feels right for this beautiful property and for our wonderful Auburn community. So, um speaking for myself and the seller, um we just appreciate your time and consideration in this. Thank you. Thank you so much. Before I turn it over to the public, does any commission member have a question for the petitioner?

I do. Is the house listed on any historical registers? I don't believe it actually is. There is there is a lot of information in the library um on slides and things that they have. Um but I don't know exactly if it is on the historic Suzanne. I would tell you this that if it's not I would like I would like to see it. It would would explore that could provide some benefits to the buyer in terms of funding.

Yeah. No, I I would love to see that just because uh much like downtown Auburn is on the uh National Historical uh registry and and obviously the ACD Museum uh it would be it would be it would be a wonderful thing and obviously it would it would probably come with some further protections down the road and I and I think that's important. So I don't know if it is either. Obviously, it has historical significance, but but uh it's something that it should be if it meets the qualifications. Thank you.

Personally, I know like a lot of homes that probably should be aren't. I lived in a Charles Eard home and it was not. The Zimmerman home across the street diagonal was not. So, there are probably some homes that should be placed on it that aren't right now. So, yeah, that's sidebar. Sorry. Uh anything else for the petitioner? Okay, at this point I will turn it any to over to anybody that would like to come and speak or ask questions on this from the public. Keep in mind, come to the microphone, state your name and address. Keep in mind also this zoning needs to be almost considered in isolation. It really has nothing to do with the downtown even though that's kind of the giant elephant in the room. But again, it's just the zoning and the property. So, please step forward if anybody would like to speak. Jessica Hardy, 1314 Pearl Street here in Auburn. All right, I'm going to give this a crack. I'm probably wasting my time. So, to Suzanne, the home is not on the historic registry. By changing its zoning, you may make it so that it is unable to be zoned historic. I'm checking to that small minute thing. Okay. Um there is so much. McIntyre home is a historic home. We have many historic homes in this area. By reszoning this, which we have many that have been resoneed to this, we are setting a precedent for the rest of our historic homes on Main Street and anywhere else. If we do it to this one, we could do it to others. We will start losing our historic homes to usage other than a home. There is no need to reszone. There is

rentable property here. There are places to be. The gentleman's building one out there by Sonic. So, apparently there is a place to be. Oh, there's so much um property values. Either way, the value of that home will only decrease as a home. Uh the property values on it for the neighborhood. We do not know what that will do for that neighborhood. Do you want to live there or not? This is another loss of another historic building as a home or as a piece of property in this community. The home will never be able to be a home again. It will never be a home again. And I think that this gentleman does have great intentions for it, but changing it to a business does change it to a business. You cannot be perfect to it. This is our McIntyre home. It is a home. It changes things for it. As to the zoning downtown, he has every ability to sell that property or keep it as he pleases. Give me what I want or I will hurt the downtown is not okay. Uh I would also worry about signage. I know that the Smith home does have a sign in front of it. Will we put a sign there? Um we are worried about the redevelopment of the downtown, but here's a business that's leaving it. We probably should ask that question as to why. Yet again, we want to preserve our historic homes, but we are reszoning something. And when we reszone that, we can't reszone it differently. And we are setting that precedent. I just I'm sorry. I really want to push that. We are setting a precedent that we are willing to continue to resone homes in our downtown to something that is not a home.

Zoning is very important. I'm glad that we're referencing the Auburn 2040 plan, but this is an eitheror. This isn't a have to um in terms of the zoning. It's on the edge as they were discussing and there has to be a stop point at some some point in time. And the McIntyre home is a wonderful place to stop. I know that there are a lot of businesses, not businesses, there are a lot of other buildings in the area zoned nonresidential, but this is a residential area and there has to be a line in the sand. If this was a person wanting to live in this home, would we permit them the street parking and the parking that they are asking for? If I came in and I bought that house and I said to you, I wanted to put out a parking pad. I wanted to change the on street or off streetet parking. How would you respond to me as a homeowner on that? That just that if I park seven cars on that street all the time and I was just a homeowner and I actually kind of own a lot of cars. I like them. What What would you be like to me on that one in that area? Um like I said, it cannot return to a home ever again. This is it. and that home would be loved by somebody and the market is so hot right now. Homes are worth we all know then and if he loves that home then maybe live in it. That is a beautiful home and it it's not going to fall to ruin. There's no fear of that in this market. Now what the market does in 6 months is a different thing. But that home is okay. You know, it's okay as a home. It it's not going to fall into disrepair or die out and and be abused in this market. Someone would love that home. someone would 100% love that home, especially I saw the pictures. They have done work on it. That's not just going to, you know, I I remember the market 20 years ago. Um,

yeah, just remember the president part. I really do appreciate your time. Thank you for working with me on it. It's always hard to speak in front of a large group, so I do appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anything there that staff or the petitioner would like to comment on? The only the only thing that jumped out there was a couple things, but the one was street parking being requested. That's not in this. This is just a zoning. Has nothing to do with parking. I know parking was mentioned on site and there is street parking there, but is there anything the petitioner would like to respond or staff? No. Okay. Anybody else from the public, please come forward, state your name.

Uh my name is Amanda Thomas. Uh my mom who is back there and I live at 102 West 14th Street is a property that's adjacent to the McIntyre home. Um, I've lived in the home ever since I was about in the third grade. We've noticed multiple families come and go from that home. Um, and until just recently, the the family that owned it before um the current interest, neither family has kept up on that property. Um, we remember a while ago where there was a family that was in there. They had a very large pool. Um, it pretty much turned into a jungle at one time. We saw the family that was in there catch it on fire. There was a massive fire in the backyard. Fire department was called. Um we have no oppositions to the reszoning of that house. Um we um I have met Mr. Webble Weber a couple times, you know, great guy. So we do feel like he will take very good care of that house. Um the packet that was sent to us was very informative. Um we are very happy with the signage. The signage does look very unique and very, you know, historical to the home. Um, and we are very appreciative of him keeping it in the Victorian style that it has been since um, we lived there and I can remember. Um, the only thing that was in the packet that I don't recall seeing was plans for the fencing. Um, and it might be because it's not knowledge of the family. Um, the fence is theirs. Some of it was damaged in a storm for previous owners and the family that lived there prior to the um, interest of the home. uh he did remove some of it just because some of it fell down in a storm and then one or two panels he did keep up because the home next to us is actually vacant right now and there's quite a bit of uh clutter in that yard. So we just kept it up so that he can like not see the clutter that was in that yard. Um so again we just wanted to know if there was plans for a privacy fence or repairing the fence that's there now or what's the plans for that as we didn't

see it in the packet. Um, but again, the packet was very informative. We did appreciate what you guys did to send it to us. So, um, as the neighbors of the south on 14th Street, we opened the blue house 102. Um, it was on the map. We have no oppositions. We think this is going to be a very good thing for the the neighborhood. That way, we know that somebody's going to keep it up to date and maintained. So, thank you. Thank you very much. again like the plans for the fence is not really part of the reasoning but if you would like to answer that question please step forward.

Oversight actually noticed it the other day. Our our plans would be to um to work with the Thomas family to get that fence repaired and to keep it era appropriate and to make sure it it it is an appropriate fence that everybody could be satisfied with. you have you have a very nice property. Um I am a little disappointed in the property next door to you. Sorry we missed you.

And when I and I went and knocked on the door the the house next door you know I kind of got a close-up view of what can happen to houses and you know again uh as I stated I appreciate what your home and and and the the way it looks and so yeah sorry we couldn't talk in person but it was good to talk to you on the on the Ring camera. So, yes. Yes, we we would work we would work with them to to put this fence back up and and uh and get it back to where it probably was before it was damaged. Thank you.

Anybody else from the audience like to come and speak on the project? Anybody else? Seeing none, I will go ahead and close the public hearing and turn it over to the commission for discussion. Is there any further discussion? I believe there's a definite distinct benefit to long-term sustainability and maintenance of these prop properties. Um the application of this I think does give it an opportunity to be maintained and continually restored um more than the traditional residential. Uh maybe um I think it's a good approach to the plan and it sounds like he's trying to be a strong steward of the community in that regard. Um any further discussion? Okay. Um so again there are no findings of facts. So keep in mind we do have these things the five statements that we need to um make sure we take into account. Again, in terms of the Auburn comprehensive plan and the Auburn's 2040 plan, most communities in the state of Indiana, and I think the we've done this too, take a broad interpretation of consistency. So a resoning may be approved if it one does not directly conflict or contradict the overall goals of the plan fits the surrounding land uses serves public interest or develops needs and can justify can justify through planning factors such as traffic utility economic development etc. Um, a plan does not exactly or a reasonzoning does not

exactly have to match the future land use map that is in the Auburn 2040. As long as it meets those four criteria, we can still approve it without it meeting that map. Therefore, I'm in favor of this and think it's hit these. I don't know if anybody else has anything else they want to do, but again, we don't have any findings. We just need to keep these in mind. So, I think it does hit number one, Auburn Comprehensive Master Plan with a big check mark. Any further discussion? If not, I'll entertain a motion. Move to approve PC zoning 2026-00001. Hold that thought. It's a zoning.

What we need to do is make the motion to forward Yeah. PC zoning plan 2026-1 to council with a favorable vote recommendation. All right. Would you like to modify? Yeah, I would like to modify. Move to forward to councel in the affirmative PC zoning 2026-001. I'll second. We have a motion, a second. All in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. Motion carried. Thank you for your presentation and good luck. Thank you. See you April 7th. Okay.

All right. On to the next item. 3375 County Road 427. This is PC zoning 2026-2. I'll go ahead and open the public hearing and turn it over to staff.

Thank you, sir. for this request. Uh Rudy, who's representing the property owner Venture 427 LLC LLC, they're requesting to amend the official zoning map for excuse me for the city of Auburn to reclassify uh the zoning of property which is located at 3375 County Road 427 North. Um from currently it's got a decal county zoning classification of R1 low density residential requesting to reclassify it to a city zoning designation of is institutional. Uh this resoning requires public hearing was advertised on February 17th. There were 10 adjacent property owners notified uh of this request. Uh the property at 3375 County Road 427. the um the actual building for the address of that property is what you see on the southern part of this larger track. I have highlighted the portion of that property that is requested to be reszoned. the uh surrounding zoning of this property. Again, the uh the current uh building is zoned is institutional as well as the county's uh 911 facility which is south of that and the school property is all zone institutional. The land to the north and to the east is that county designation of lowdensity residential. This particular property does not fall within the Auburn 2040 plan. So there's not guidance with that. A few photographs of the property. Again, we're just focusing on that undeveloped portion of the property that's north of the parking lot for the facility. Uh it's where the football field uh currently is. This just shows the very rear of the property. There is some overhead transmission lines that cross through the property. And I've

highlighted with the aerial that portion of the property that we're looking to reclassify the zoning of. Project advisory committee met back on March 5th about this request. We did receive one call on the request from an adjacent property owner just asking questions about the request and we did place public notice sign on the property back in February 17th. The um survey drawing here shows that there actually were two separate parcels of land. Um and the uh where the current building is was within the city's ETJ area. Um and that's how it has the institutional zoning district classification. Uh there is water and sanitary sewer to the property. Now when the current property owner bought the property they have since combined the two parcels into one and that's what's reflected here and with that now the entire property falls within the jurisdiction of the Auburn's uh extr territorial planning area. So the entire parcel is in our ETJ but we still have that county zoning designation on the north part that can only be changed through a reszoning uh filings. It's not an automatic shift. Um so that's they wanted the zoning to be all under the institutional district and so that is the uh purpose for the request uh this evening. Overall it's a little over 12 acre parcel. So they they do have area to expand. They don't have a plan to expand um as part of this request. We're just talking zoning at this point, but they wanted the entire parcel should they make some improvements to the property to be under city jurisdiction. I mentioned there is water and sanitary sewer uh to the property. Um I have identified uh what the uses are within the institutional district as well as the development standards that would apply and this would be for any

new improvements they would make to the property would have to follow these is standards. Um I mentioned uh the adjacent zoning, the emergency management office to the south, the school to the to the uh west, all zoned institutional. Uh so with this uh request um the reclassification of zoning, we think it does extend the existing institutional zoning from the south and from the west. So it is an expansion of an existing district boundary line. we feel is a reasonable request to extend that line to allow for future expansion of the classic city center development. Uh so staff does recommend um that the planning commission forward this request for reszoning to the common council with a favorable recommendation. Again, it's a resoning so we don't have specific findings but we still have the five factors to consider. So that concludes staff report.

Thank you very much. Any uh questions? So Jim, when this gets combined, is it like an annexation? So we're going to pick up that parcel from the city. It's it's Yeah. So they have they have combined it for tax purposes. So it's just one part considered one parcel. It's outside the city limits. So it it won't be part of any annexation effort. U but it will be it is automatically now since it's combined under the city's ETJ. And so with that, it's not always best to have properties with split zonings. It's okay, but it's I think the owner wants that consistency for any future development they may consider. So that's the reason for the request.

Yeah. Anything else further? Okay. Thank you. Um would anybody on behalf of the petitioner like to come forward and speak? Please state your name and address. Rudy, item 704 North Main. Jim and his team did awesome job. I don't have much to add. You know, as we looked for potential opportunities for this property, made sense for us, one to combine it for tax purposes, but then have same zoning. Uh I can't really look to um for future efforts unless I know what it's going to be zoned and we prefer that zoning to continue to uh plan for that property.

Thank you. Questions for petitioner? Would anybody on behalf of the public like to speak honor against my name is Joe Dunn and I have the property that is along the north and also the east of this property and uh my address is 3333 County Road 427 Water Indiana. Uh I think if I understand what the zoning would be, it would be to be uh providing maybe uh services like for children, maybe for families, it be an educational kinds of a thing and I certainly is properly next to it. I have no objection if that's what it's all about. So uh I would be for that. I don't have any problems with it. I would like to talk to you a little bit more. Maybe we can get together on on the on the uh the flow of the water. Talk talk about that.

So, we can do that. I think that would be good. But uh well, that's what I have to say. Thank you. Thank you so much, Mr. Dunn. Anyone else? Anybody else from the public like to speak? All right. Seeing none, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and turn it over to the commission for discussion. I think this is perfect. You've got institutional on the west and you got institutional on the southeast with where the dispatch is and its current use is basically that. So, I don't see any problems. I think it's really just kind of cleaning up paperwork for the most part. Y it's good.

I completely agree. Okay. Again, this does not have findings of facts, but again, we have the five items for consideration um on the last page as you can see on the board. So, please keep those in mind as we make a motion. And again, I need this motion to be forward to the PC zoning 2026-2 to the council with a favorable recommendation or non-favorable, I guess, if you want to do that way, but one or the other. Uh move to for a favorable recommendation to the common council regarding PC zoning 2026002. Second motion is uh second. Any further discussion?

Seeing none, all in favor signify by saying I. I. Motion carried. Thank you very much and good luck. Whatever you decide to do with it. Okay. I'm sure we'll hear something if you do. So on to reports. Um address report. Doesn't look like we have one. Uh anything from board members city county leazison. Uh our last meeting we had a formal presentation for the comprehensive plan which the um plan commission sent a favorable recommendation to the commissioners and they decided to table it for two weeks because one person needed to look at it again for two more weeks.

Well, those aren't small documents so I guess I can understand that. But we should be able to find time to get on it. So I guess they they may have had it for a year. Okay. Okay. That's time. Project Advisory Committee. Nothing. City staff, we will have a meeting um on April 14th. We do have one case. I saw something in the file folders. Yes. Um Jean, anything from you? I'm still here. Okay. See you in person on the 14th. All right. Sounds great. Thank you. Any final public comment? Seeing none, I'll entertain a motion. Move to adjurnn. Second.

We have a motion, a second. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Meeting is adjourned. Thank you very much. Very good.

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